Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[Cidersomerset]

Alex talks about this vid of the ambulances outside Hooters half way through
first vid. I know lots of people were taken from event by truck etc, so I
don't know if Hooters was used as a staging post or something was
happening inside ? I have not looked at third vid as I am late for work now...LOL


MASSIVE COVER UP! VIDEO: EMT/AMBULANCE PULLS VICTIMS OUT OF HOOTERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQ-LgcUSYs

Published on 22 Oct 2017


Alex Jones talks about how On the night of October 1, Youtuber Benjamin
Franks and his friend had just grabbed some tacos and were heading back
to their hotel room at the MGM when they noticed a separate disturbance
at the corner of Las Vegas Blvd and Tropicana Ave.
15-minutes later, from the leisure of his hotel room, Franks managed to
capture bombshell video footage which shows a total of 17 ambulances
removing human bodies from Hooters, contradicting the official story told
by Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo.
https://www.infowars.com/vegas-bombsh...

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What the Hell is Happening Here at Hooters/Las Vegas on Oct. 1st (NEW VIDEO)

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Me and my buddy went to vegas for two days. This was our first day there
and had been out on the strip earlier but drove to circus circus later on. We
had just gotten tacos when we finally reached tropicana and las vegas blvd
is when we saw everyone running and all the police. We were lucky to get to
the mgm parking garage and into our room about 15 minutes later and thats
when this video starts. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.

[Harley]

Hi Paul,

Let me show you how I came to the conclusion that Stephanie's location was to the right of the GoPro, on the other side of the field.

I rotated this Google Map shot 180 deg. so we are looking in the same direction as the GoPro.

I see:
* Mandalay Bay in the upper-right corner.
* The stage and big screen (green roof) at the top-center of the concert field.
* VIP Suites just below the stage on both sides of the field.
* An entrance/exit just below and to the left of the VIP Suite on the left.

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According to the panning and the views of the GoPro, it should be positioned just below and a little to the right of the Left-Side VIP Suite. I say this because:

* The stage and big screen are in the center of it's view.
* The VIP Suite the GoPro is closest to is to the left of it's view.
* The Entrance/Exit Gate is further to the left but out of this view.

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But that first shot that Stephanie heard, the loud shot that scared her and caused her to turn around to see that someone was down in the VIP section behind her ... that was all happening to the left of the camera, not the right.

Watching the GoPro as it pans further to the left you will see the Entrance/Exit gate.
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From this angle you have to pan the camera to the right to bring the stage back into view. Which also indicates that all of the activity is occurring to the Right of the GoPro.

Bear with me now! :)

Now let's take a look at Stephanie's Cam-View.

If this cam was positioned in front of the left-side VIP Suite, then when it pans to the left it would have been panning towards the Entrance/Exit Gate, and further towards the left the GoPro position. But that's not what we see in Stephanie's video.

Stephanie's Cam: VIP Suite
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Stephanie's Cam: Panned to the Left
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Oh heck. In an attempt to make it more understandable: If you took both cams and placed them back-to-back, in-order to bring the Stage into view of both cameras you'd have to:

Pan Stephanie's cam to the Left. (Check)
Pan the GoPro to the Right. (Check)
Which indicates to me that Stephanie's position is to the Right of the GoPro.

And sure enough, when watching the GoPro the first exodus of people is coming from the Right with little to no activity from people on the Left.

I sure hope I got all my Lefts and Rights correct. The old boy is getting tired! :)

One more comment:

Looking at the Google Map shot again, you should be able to see why I made the statement that the woman who was (likely) shot in Stephanie's video would have been (mostly) protected from the direction of the Mandalay Bay (Which greatly supports the claims from witnesses of (a) shooter(s) inside the venue).

[Tintin]

And again, already posted here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1186632&viewfull=1#post1186632 before. Thanks for sharing it again though.

Maybe I should link to the youtube so it stands out more in future, but, the reason I don't always is because not everyone will have resource to download, but tvclip.biz provides a nice little green download button that then prompts an mp4 link and hey presto, job done :handshake:

It's busy here and easy to miss things, but, a little more patience and taking time to read through everything, and I mean everything, may help us to avoid too much repetition.


Alex talks about this vid of the ambulances outside Hooters half way through
first vid. I know lots of people were taken from event by truck etc, so I
don't know if Hooters was used as a staging post or something was
happening inside ? I have not looked at third vid as I am late for work now...LOL


MASSIVE COVER UP! VIDEO: EMT/AMBULANCE PULLS VICTIMS OUT OF HOOTERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQ-LgcUSYs

Published on 22 Oct 2017


Alex Jones talks about how On the night of October 1, Youtuber Benjamin
Franks and his friend had just grabbed some tacos and were heading back
to their hotel room at the MGM when they noticed a separate disturbance
at the corner of Las Vegas Blvd and Tropicana Ave.
15-minutes later, from the leisure of his hotel room, Franks managed to
capture bombshell video footage which shows a total of 17 ambulances
removing human bodies from Hooters, contradicting the official story told
by Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo.
https://www.infowars.com/vegas-bombsh...

============================================


What the Hell is Happening Here at Hooters/Las Vegas on Oct. 1st (NEW VIDEO)

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Me and my buddy went to vegas for two days. This was our first day there
and had been out on the strip earlier but drove to circus circus later on. We
had just gotten tacos when we finally reached tropicana and las vegas blvd
is when we saw everyone running and all the police. We were lucky to get to
the mgm parking garage and into our room about 15 minutes later and thats
when this video starts. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.

[ThePythonicCow]

Stephanie's Cam: Panned to the Left
I was pretty much with you up until this line.

I could'a sworn that that view you show as being "Stephanie's Cam: Panned to the Left, the view of the stage from the "stage right" side with the Mandalay Bay behind the stage, was seen when Stephanie panned right from the VIP section, not left.

When Stephanie panned left, I thought I saw the purple lit backside tower of the Tropicana. P.S. -- Yes - verified. See the 19:06 mark (https://youtu.be/WrltjkjjsAQ?t=19m6s) in Stephanie's interview. She's just panned left, toward the rear of the festival grounds, and the purple lit backside tower of the Tropican is in view, with the stage and the Mandalay Bay out of view, to her rear.

P.P.S. -- But if both the GoPro and Stephanie's camera were looking toward the VIP area, not toward the stage, then I agree that Stephanie would be to the right of the GoPro. The GoPro was at the back end of the VIP area, a little bit further from the stage than was Stephanie, who was one or two sections of the VIP structure closer to the stage


And sure enough, when watching the GoPro the first exodus of people is coming from the Right with little to no activity from people on the Left.
That's what I saw too -- the first exodus coming from the right of the GoPro. I took that to mean that the first exodus was not prompted by the shooting in the VIP area, but rather prompted by something else that happened stage left, more on the other side (more on the right side, from the audience perspective) of the grounds than any of the VIP area, Stephanie or the GoPro camera.

[Ewan]

https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Shooters-map-01-1.jpg

As I looked at this map I recalled hearing a bullet had found its way to the fuel tanks. Assuming all targets were in the concert area, there seems to be only one logical place for that bullet to have begun its journey - and that is from the grounds of the concert itself.

[Hervé]

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Here is to get acquainted with where is what:




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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/mandalay-bay-vegas-shooting.html

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5:20 AM - 2 Oct 2017
Theatre terminology:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Stage_directions_2.svg/220px-Stage_directions_2.svg.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stage_directions_2.svg)
House left/right are from the audience's perspective

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I may be wrong, but from the best I could judge, the locations of the GoPro witness and Stephanie are marked as X's on these two images (thanks Harley and Hervé for posting them - makes it easier to take in the layout of the area)

Green 'X' - Stephanie's location
Red 'X' - GoPro guy

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[TargeT]

The Single Shots that I mentioned were possibly, and quite likely (in my view), from a Pistol(s) or a Hand Gun(s) as opposed to a (Semi)-Automatic Weapon.


Just to clarify:

Most firearms are semi-automatic (handguns / pistols included)

Semi auto is a term that describes how the firearm will reload it's chamber via kinetic energy from the previous shot. Semi-auto weapons do not have a distinctive sound, they will generally have an increase in their rate of fire.

now, most hand guns / pistols do have a "lighter load" ammunition (less gun powder, smaller casings) when compared to a long barrel rifle, which gives them a different audio profile.

http://www.prep-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/22lr-9mm-556.jpg

As you can see the two rifle rounds on the right have a lot more powder (bigger casing) and will travel at much higher speeds with more energy transfer on impact.




That was my first thought and I wondered whether the weapon, distance or
focus comes into play ? I could not see anything coming from the windows
either , but maybe there is a simple answer ? obviously other shooters ,
though I am not an analyst.


They would definitely be visible.

example ( go to 1:33) :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vm3-BQRJU?t=1m33s

[ThePythonicCow]

I may be wrong, but from the best I could judge, the locations of the GoPro witness and Stephanie are marked as X's on these two images (thanks Harley and Hervé for posting them - makes it easier to take in the layout of the area)
Yes - I agree on those positions. Thanks for posting those images and marking the spots.

[ThePythonicCow]

They would definitely be visible.
Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power :).

[ThePythonicCow]

High Rez here: https://www.10tv.com/sites/10tv.com/files/LasVegasStripRoute91Backside.jpg
That's the first really good image I've seen of the layout of that place, at the time of the Route 91 Harvest Festival and shooting.

Thanks for posting it, Hervé.

[ThePythonicCow]

https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Shooters-map-01-1.jpg

As I looked at this map I recalled hearing a bullet had found its way to the fuel tanks. Assuming all targets were in the concert area, there seems to be only one logical place for that bullet to have begun its journey - and that is from the grounds of the concert itself.

Yes - assuming that all shots were intended to shoot into the concert area - however it's possible that the shots (at least two, I believe) into the fuel tanks were intended to hit the fuel tanks, perhaps to create more fear in the subsequent news reports: What if those tanks had erupted into flames?

[Yetti]

The whole thing smells fishy ! , I've been hearing the same story over and over from MSM to me the broken windows look too low to be at the 32nd floor , the claim is 50+ deaths, so ,where are the family of the deaths saying something? not a single one, How ANYONE can skip so many weapons on a hotel room and no cameras catch him? why the msm rush into so many conclusions about the alleged gun man? too fast. the whole story look too much fabricated for a multiple purpose, gun control, contracts in safety for the hotels and casinos, and keep the status caos!

[sllim11]

"Investigative reporter Jake Morphonios joins the program to discuss the facts after spending time on the ground in Las Vegas. We also discuss the fact that his show has received more views than all mass media channels combined as reported by the Wall Street Journal and USA Today (to their credit). His popularity has resulted in a major crackdown on his channel and personal attacks on him and his family. "

he shares some things i have not heard about as of yet. he saw a few videos in vegas that people have and are too afraid to share... pertaining to multiple shooters and bodies that were not near the "harvest" area....

also some other interesting topics... pedo., child traffic etc. (hope this has not already been posted i haven't seen it)



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[ThePythonicCow]

Here's an hours worth of video, in four 15 minute segments, taken from what I'd guess is about the 15th floor of Mandalay Bay, overlooking the scene of the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

The video is taken during the daytime, some day soon after the shootings. It shows various FBI agents cleaning up. I'm confident that the agents will find any interesting evidence and be sure it's cataloged and removed. Lots of large black trash bags are already filled with stuff they picked up.

There is no sound with the video, other than the sound of the motorized zoom on the camera, as the camera pans around here and there, zooming in and back out.

I see no evidence that this place was sprayed with one or two thousand rounds of automatic weapons fire. Signs, tent tops, and stacks of crates of beer and booze are all in fine shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AbiYhC6IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYUe9aZuzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20M98dRCg18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSDNizzbAc

I don't see any reason to watch all of it ... I sure didn't. It's got all the plot line of watching paint dry. But it does give a good view of what the place looks like, a day or three later.

[Tesseract]

This video from an old long-term classmate offers a very de-mystifying perspective on Stephen Paddock, and (in my view) more accurately portrays Paddock's financial situation and gambling.


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[Tintin]

Here's an hours worth of video, in four 15 minute segments, taken from what I'd guess is about the 15th floor of Mandalay Bay, overlooking the scene of the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

The video is taken during the daytime, some day soon after the shootings. It shows various FBI agents cleaning up. I'm confident that the agents will find any interesting evidence and be sure it's cataloged and removed. Lots of large black trash bags are already filled with stuff they picked up.

There is no sound with the video, other than the sound of the motorized zoom on the camera, as the camera pans around here and there, zooming in and back out.

I see no evidence that this place was sprayed with one or two thousand rounds of automatic weapons fire. Signs, tent tops, and stacks of crates of beer and booze are all in fine shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AbiYhC6IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYUe9aZuzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20M98dRCg18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSDNizzbAc

I don't see any reason to watch all of it ... I sure didn't. It's got all the plot line of watching paint dry. But it does give a good view of what the place looks like, a day or three later.

"...watching paint dry." Priceless :star:. However, this is very very helpful in determining exactly where Stephanie was situated, as I'm sure she mentioned both hut (sic) 5 and 6 at some point in her interview with Laura Loomer, and, when the camera zooms in on the VIP area you can clearly see those numbers. (at 6:42 in the first clip, and a little after). I'm at around 8 minutes in Paul, and, yes, I may not see it through! (or might I.....)

Clip 2: at 11:14 it looks as if a dent/damage to hut 5 has been circled in orange. Is this where Stephanie saw that woman take a hit and is this damage from her possibly falling into it?

Quick post update: gentle reminder to all that Stephanie didn't film the footage (see Laura Loomer interview), her friend did. Stephanie is in that piece of film seen dancing in that chequered shirt, and then clocks the 'hit'.

Sorry if I'm being a bit of a stickler here with the detail, but, I think that's important to remember. She is one of the most important witnesses we have on record.

Postscript: personally, and it is only my view, I really wouldn't get bogged down in the commentary attached to the FBI clean up film regarding lack of bullet holes. Somebody somewhere made a pertinent point that some, not all, of the automatic gunfire heard could well have been cover fire. And in any case, aren't we talking very highly skilled crack marksmen contracted to pull this off here? They would be trained to minimise residue and maximise target, surely. Lack of bullet holes does not equal no guns, automatic or otherwise, were actually used. Far from it.

But again huge thanks to Paul for these paint drying films - they do help very much to cement in my mind, again, that zip zilch nada was fired from the Mandalay Bay (School Book Depository decoy) at all.

[Tintin]

"Investigative reporter Jake Morphonios joins the program to discuss the facts after spending time on the ground in Las Vegas. We also discuss the fact that his show has received more views than all mass media channels combined as reported by the Wall Street Journal and USA Today (to their credit). His popularity has resulted in a major crackdown on his channel and personal attacks on him and his family. "

he shares some things i have not heard about as of yet. he saw a few videos in vegas that people have and are too afraid to share... pertaining to multiple shooters and bodies that were not near the "harvest" area....

also some other interesting topics... pedo., child traffic etc. (hope this has not already been posted i haven't seen it)



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Thank you sllim11. Wow, this guy's great isn't he. There is some gold in here. Dare I say it - another must hear, although to be honest, everything on this thread demands attention.
Excellent share this, thanks :highfive:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Ok this is interesting. Not seen all 'paint drying' footage as yet lol, but after checking the first clip to see if there was anything to back up what I already suspected, sure enough there is this evidence:

This is an image of the concert area with the stage up. Note the Green X. This is Stephanie's location. According to Stephanie, the first gunshot was heard and a woman is hit at this location.

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Note this image now of the aftermath. The stage has been largely disassembled by this time. But when it was fully up, it is clear that there would be no line of sight from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Hotel down to that Green X, and the VIP suite where the first woman is shot. From this we can gather that, if she was indeed shot, she was shot by someone other than Paddock from the Mandalay Bay.

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Also important, this note from 'hangman1128', who shot this footage and uploaded to Youtube:


hangman1128
1 day ago
It was taken on October 14th from the Mandalay Bay hotel from a room just below the broken window.

Therefore, if hangman1128 is accurate, and he really did shoot this from the 31st floor right underneath Paddock's alleged position, then the angles and vantage points would've been virtually identical.

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[Hervé]

Massacre aftermath (graphic)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--pX17XpIpmI/WdyVJJGzUXI/AAAAAAAAhXo/UtDopzJEfyISgC9OkLvUk8TjiIjC5If8wCLcBGAs/s1600/LasVegasVictims1.jpeg)
http://file2.instiz.net/data/file2/2017/10/04/5/6/9/569cb056c845fadee5c0d20dbc6e6e96.jpg (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--pX17XpIpmI/WdyVJJGzUXI/AAAAAAAAhXo/UtDopzJEfyISgC9OkLvUk8TjiIjC5If8wCLcBGAs/s1600/LasVegasVictims1.jpeg)
High rez here: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--pX17XpIpmI/WdyVJJGzUXI/AAAAAAAAhXo/UtDopzJEfyISgC9OkLvUk8TjiIjC5If8wCLcBGAs/s1600/LasVegasVictims1.jpeg
Yellow strips are protections for cables running along a corridor between stage and sound/lights booth (stage is behind photographer looking toward the booth).

[Carmody]

All the magazines in all the public stores are about Harvey Weinstein and not one bit about Vegas in sight -anywhere.

It appears to be, or this evidence shows that it appears to be a factional war.

At least two different and seemingly warring narratives.

One of the signs of a factional war is when narratives fall out of lock step and out of sync.

It will likely manifest it's self like the silent funeral fight in 'the other guys', as each faction tries it's best to keep the public unaware that there is anyone ruling over them at all. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTAlAO67KVI)

Which is what the narratives in conflict are seemingly saying.

Like the mice and the mouse culture and system, no matter who they are, they have to tip-toe past the cat. As the cat rules them all, if it is awake and aware. In this case the masses are a danger to not just one faction, but all factions.

[Carmody]

They would definitely be visible.
Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power :).

that set up has tracer rounds in the clips. Tracer rounds are not common, and obtaining them might be a bit of a milspec red flag issue. (don't know, haven't looked at general availability)

apparently tracer rounds were found in his room? This would have made identifying the source point insanely easy. Tracer rounds are preferred usually..only when the firing position is inherently dominant, or it is necessary to control fire like a hose, in the dark,and one wants to know exactly who is firing in a group. Ie, in a 'killbox/killzone' of German origin in WWII, the UK commandos noted 5 different colors of tracers as fired by the German pillbox positions.

[Hervé]

Still no evidence of broken windows (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1186702&viewfull=1#post1186702) at the time of the shooting:


http://gfx.wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/var/radiozet-wiadomosci/storage/images/swiat/strzelanina-las-vegas.-sa-ranni-i-zabici.-nowe-fakty/143211-1-pol-PL/Strzelanina-Las-Vegas.-Co-najmniej-20-osob-zginelo_article.jpg (https://chemtrailsplanet.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/lv-shooter-mandalay-bay-route-91-view.jpg)
High rez here: https://static4.libertatea.ro/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/h_53804617.jpg

https://en.mogaznews.com/temp/resized/medium_2017-10-02-4b9d9fb258.jpg (https://i1.wp.com/nsjonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-10-02T091137Z_731073515_RC15D4759AA0_RTRMADP_3_USA-LASVEGAS-SHOOTING.jpg?fit=2560%2C1440&ssl=1)
People run outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel after a gunman opened fire on attendees of the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival. TWITTER/ @MORGANDBAMBI via REUTERS
High rez here: https://i1.wp.com/nsjonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-10-02T091137Z_731073515_RC15D4759AA0_RTRMADP_3_USA-LASVEGAS-SHOOTING.jpg?fit=2560%2C1440&ssl=1

(https://i1.wp.com/nsjonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-10-02T091137Z_731073515_RC15D4759AA0_RTRMADP_3_USA-LASVEGAS-SHOOTING.jpg?fit=2560%2C1440&ssl=1)
http://mediaassets.ktnv.com/photo/2017/10/02/GettyImages-856515466_1506995433646_67784925_ver1.0_640_480.jpg (http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1640258/las-vegas-mass-shooting.jpg)
High rez here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLHtjT_W4AEb_zr.jpg:large
Moon still high in the sky... chopper above pyramid.



... noticed that "masonic" twin column on the far left of the last picture?

[turiya]

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VIDEO: Leaked Las Vegas SWAT Audio Indicates Police Gunned Down Stephen Paddock in Hotel (http://truepundit.com/video-leaked-las-vegas-swat-audio-indicates-police-gunned-down-stephen-paddock-in-hotel/)

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A raw and chilling audio feed leaked from Las Vegas Metro SWAT confirms officers did engage in gunfire after breaching Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock’s hotel suite, directly contradicting FBI and police claims that Paddock killed himself.

According to the newly leaked audio, Paddock was likely gunned down by LVMPD’s elite “Zebra Unit” SWAT force. A SWAT officer code named “Zebra20” and apparent leader of the team’s strike force who led the raid on Paddock’s Mandalay Bay suite reported on police radio that one member of his team did open fire inside Paddock’s room.

“We have one SWAT officer that did fire,” the SWAT strike force team leader said, according to the audio transcript. (Listen to the SWAT audio in the above video)

Zebra20 then reported no other people were injured during the breach, alluding Paddock was the sole casualty.
“We just have one suspect down at this point in time,” he said.

The events which unfolded during the Oct. 1 massacre per LVMPD’s Zebra Unit SWAT force directly contradict the official narrative delivered since the shooting by Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo and the FBI’s Aaron Rouse who heads the Bureau’s Las Vegas field office.

To wit, both law enforcement entities have vehemently stated Paddock killed himself before police breached and reached his room. No shots were fired, Lombardo has stated.

The new audio, however, clearly proves that was not how things went down on the 32nd Floor of Mandalay Bay.
Did Lombardo and Rouse outright fabricate the narrative in Paddock’s hotel room? The SWAT-linked audio tape would strongly indicate their collaborated yet uncorroborated story that Paddock committed suicide is pure fiction.

If these law enforcement entities worked so hard to manufacture a bogus back story about Paddock’s death, what else are officials hiding from the public?

There are no shortage of glaring inconsistencies and unanswered questions stemming from the official narrative and time line if the shooting, which changed daily for weeks.

Now the leaked audio transcript, for the first time, serves as rock-solid evidence that officials likely have been lying to the public.

LVMPD’s Zebra Team is comprised of 40 elite members on the police department, a law enforcement source said. Zebra20, who relayed the scene from Paddock’s room to the dispatcher at “Control,” is a long time veteran of the police force and SWAT unit, sources said.

Lombardo did not return request for comment.

FBI did not return request for comment

TRUE PUNDIT (http://truepundit.com/video-leaked-las-vegas-swat-audio-indicates-police-gunned-down-stephen-paddock-in-hotel/)

[lloyds]

That was my first thought and I wondered whether the weapon, distance or
focus comes into play ? I could not see anything coming from the windows
either , but maybe there is a simple answer ? obviously other shooters ,
though I am not an analyst.


They would definitely be visible.

example ( go to 1:33) :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vm3-BQRJU?t=1m33s

judging by your reply about semi autos I'm guessing you have some sort of back ground in firearms. so im not trying to tell you how to suck eggs. but just to clarify for others..

In that video, 99% of the people are using tracer rounds. it isn't hard to suppress muzzle flash on a rifle. You can buy fittings that screw onto the barrel like a silencer does and it stops the large flash when the projectile leaves the barrel. These are easily obtainable to the average person here in Australia where gun laws are ridiculously tight, so i doubt you will see any muzzle flashes from any of the shooters.

so to clarify, none of the shooters in any of the video footage i have seen have been using tracer rounds and they more than likely used flash suppression (not silencers) on the muzzle of their rifles.

[Tintin]

HOOTERS: Video footage from inside uploaded in the last few hours.
TvClip.biz linke here:
https://tvclip.biz/video/Xx66105qIYc/raw-man-films-panic-inside-hooters-after-las-vegas-shooting-part-22.html

YouTube clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx66105qIYc

Added:  17 hours ago
This raw footage of panic was filmed inside Hooters Casino immediately after the Las Vegas Shooting.

Original video post by Mr. Rosasr here: tvclip.biz/video/NC87Nva4O-c/

[Hervé]

From Jim Stone, in case someone wondered what happened to his regular site:
RUNNING ON THE PRIMARY BACKUP SERVER (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)
The vegas files came close to maxing out the main server, so I sent the site over to this one. There are five more backup servers but where they are will remain a mystery until they are needed.
Backup server: http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html

[alexius]

Las Vegas Shooting FBI Clean Up Part 2 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYUe9aZuzw

Not sure where this fit in but for someone it might be interesting. FBI painting and patching holes in the ground after the shooting.

True that agencies really do cleanup? Who knows.

[Nan]

I just found this after reading a comment on an article at ZeroHedge and a link was given to an investigative reporter Scott J. Binsack who receives exclusive video and live testimony from a key witness who was part of the Security Team within the Tropicana Hotel the night of the Las Vegas Shootings. He reveals to Scott exclusive information and video evidence of the madness inside and outside the Tropicana. Including serious information that he came face to face with a possible additional shooter from atop of the Club Tower of the Tropicana. Where many eye witness reports confirm sounds of gun fire coming from.

I have not listened to all of it yet, but so far is very interesting and probably worth a listen. https://vimeo.com/239768830

My apologies in advance if I haven't posted the link correctly.

[mountain_jim]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/brother-las-vegas-gunman-arrested-child-pornography-charges

Vegas Gunman's Brother Arrested For Child Porn; Laptop Hard Drive Missing

So now they are apparently reporting Paddock removed his own laptop hard drive before he suicided himself. :facepalm:


Separately, as the search for a motive behind the deadliest mass shooting in US history appears to have hit a wall - and while the multiple changes in the timeline of events have raised questions about the effectiveness of the initial response - ABC News reports that the laptop computer recovered from Paddock’s room was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information into Paddock’s frame of mind at the time of the shooting.

Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered.

[Nasu]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/brother-las-vegas-gunman-arrested-child-pornography-charges

Vegas Gunman's Brother Arrested For Child Porn; Laptop Hard Drive Missing

So now they are apparently reporting Paddock removed his own laptop hard drive before he suicided himself. :facepalm:


Separately, as the search for a motive behind the deadliest mass shooting in US history appears to have hit a wall - and while the multiple changes in the timeline of events have raised questions about the effectiveness of the initial response - ABC News reports that the laptop computer recovered from Paddock’s room was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information into Paddock’s frame of mind at the time of the shooting.

Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered.


It just gets more and more ridiculous with each day that passes. The FBI has no self respect to even say such a fool story. So he washed the hard-drive down the toilet before he shot himself under that by-pod ar15, off course he did....

Talking about the FBI losing all credibility, here is a god vid from the same chap who did the audio analysis of the shots to find that there were at least two shooters. Well worth a listen imo.... N


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSjY4dLRGTc

[TargeT]

They would definitely be visible.
Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power :).

that set up has tracer rounds in the clips. Tracer rounds are not common, and obtaining them might be a bit of a milspec red flag issue. (don't know, haven't looked at general availability)

Only some were firing tracers (and besides, you normally load 2 Ball rounds, then 1 tracer, then 2 ball rounds etc...), but tracers do not effect the muzzle flash at all, it's the same; and tracers are VERY easy to get (https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/1635-federal-american-eagle-5-56-nato-64-grain-tracer.html) (but F'n TERRIBLE to shoot, so dirty! so much cleanup after!), but be a TERRIBLE idea from a sniper position as there would be red streaks going from the window into the crowd (assuming he was shooting from there).







judging by your reply about semi autos I'm guessing you have some sort of back ground in firearms. so im not trying to tell you how to suck eggs. but just to clarify for others..

In that video, 99% of the people are using tracer rounds. it isn't hard to suppress muzzle flash on a rifle. You can buy fittings that screw onto the barrel like a silencer does and it stops the large flash when the projectile leaves the barrel. These are easily obtainable to the average person here in Australia where gun laws are ridiculously tight, so i doubt you will see any muzzle flashes from any of the shooters..

18 years in the military, still in ;)

Looking at the pictures of hte rifles found, there were normal "flash suppressors" installed on the rifles found, exactly the same as on the guns that were shot in the video I showed (you can see the flash suppressors at the front of their rifles). Tracer rounds do not change mussel flash in any appreciable way.


I've never fired a rifle with out a flash suppressor, it doesn't do much at all on large caliber weapons, the biggest advantage is barrel rise mitigation really (the flash goes mostly UP, helping the barrel from raising during rapid fire and for easy target re-acquisition when firing in semi-auto).

I qualify on the M16 or M4 every year and used head to the range most weekends for fun; it's an Alaska thing ;)

[Cidersomerset]

I think this show is from last Friday ? though it was posted yesterday
and they discuss the Las Vegas casino scene in general and more...


Jeff & Gary Holland - The Campos Scam On Ellen And More
qjCBnEoQ9o4

Published on 24 Oct 2017
==================================================

May just be yet another coincidence as the JFK probably redacted files are due to
come out this week. I just saw this on the headline page for Sandy hook...

just letting you know , no need to reply on this thread....

read more...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=1187238&viewfull=1#post1187238

[Cidersomerset]

This is the latest mainstream theory from the New York Times....


A new perspective on timeline of Las Vegas massacre

a39Ls0BQtjY

Published on 25 Oct 2017
The New York Times has stitched together a new timeline illustrating how events
may have unfolded the night of the Las Vegas massacre. Malachy Browne is a
senior story producer at the Times and joined CBSN to discuss.

By/ Crimesider Staff/ AP/ October 25, 2017, 12:38 PM

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's brother Bruce arrested for child porn
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddocks-brother-arrested-for-child-porn/

[Tintin]

They would definitely be visible.
Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power :).

that set up has tracer rounds in the clips. Tracer rounds are not common, and obtaining them might be a bit of a milspec red flag issue. (don't know, haven't looked at general availability)

Only some were firing tracers (and besides, you normally load 2 Ball rounds, then 1 tracer, then 2 ball rounds etc...), but tracers do not effect the muzzle flash at all, it's the same; and tracers are VERY easy to get (https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/1635-federal-american-eagle-5-56-nato-64-grain-tracer.html) (but F'n TERRIBLE to shoot, so dirty! so much cleanup after!), but be a TERRIBLE idea from a sniper position as there would be red streaks going from the window into the crowd (assuming he was shooting from there).







judging by your reply about semi autos I'm guessing you have some sort of back ground in firearms. so im not trying to tell you how to suck eggs. but just to clarify for others..

In that video, 99% of the people are using tracer rounds. it isn't hard to suppress muzzle flash on a rifle. You can buy fittings that screw onto the barrel like a silencer does and it stops the large flash when the projectile leaves the barrel. These are easily obtainable to the average person here in Australia where gun laws are ridiculously tight, so i doubt you will see any muzzle flashes from any of the shooters..

18 years in the military, still in ;)

Looking at the pictures of hte rifles found, there were normal "flash suppressors" installed on the rifles found, exactly the same as on the guns that were shot in the video I showed (you can see the flash suppressors at the front of their rifles). Tracer rounds do not change mussel flash in any appreciable way.


I've never fired a rifle with out a flash suppressor, it doesn't do much at all on large caliber weapons, the biggest advantage is barrel rise mitigation really (the flash goes mostly UP, helping the barrel from raising during rapid fire and for easy target re-acquisition when firing in semi-auto).

I qualify on the M16 or M4 every year and used head to the range most weekends for fun; it's an Alaska thing ;)

My brother is in the British military and I'm seeing him this weekend. He's done the tours and I shall be asking him about ballistics and the theatre of battle, so that I can be very certain what may or may not have been used, from his experience, and how it may apply to this atrocity. He'll know, for sure. And may provide some insight into what is currently being used and how it works. Will feed back.

[Inaiá]

Mandalay Bay Las Vegas Shooting Aftermath perspective from MGM Grand

v3JwEbBMt-Q

About this video, i saw THIS comment: "At 16:00 mark you can see something flying around the right corner of the hotel. Watch it in full screen and keep your eye on the right corner around the 32nd floor. It looks like something is flying around shooting.".

Any guesses of what it could be?

[Orph]

Any guesses of what it could be?Those "lights" show up at about the 13:30 mark as well. It might possibly be a drone. It might be just reflections of planes. I know it appears to be flying around the hotel, but, ....... the video just isn't clear enough.

[Tintin]

Alex Jones/Laura Loomer of course picked this up a while ago, and, the Clark County Coroner's office being on lockdown, peculiar in itself. What's great about this piece of film from Jason Goodman is that at 0:50 into the film their phone number is clearly displayed. I am seriously tempted to try ringing them. Maybe one or two more intrepid US based Avalon members interested in exploring this further might like to have a go at calling them and feedback here? Just an idea. I'm based in the UK so it may prove alarmingly pricey but I am prepared to try.

Anyway, if it helps, here's Jason's film and experience:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9w3Q74X3Gg

[WTHTLight]

https://www.intellihub.com/jesus-campos-rental-car-from-mexico-after-shooting/
Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos drove rental car into California from Mexico one week after shooting
So lets get this straight. After being shot in the leg ...Jesse Quintero...errr...Campos was allowed to leave the country for a week as the primary witness to the shooter. Whoever is running this operation really does think that the American public is SO STUPID! This guy is not a registered security guard, not who he says he is, using a fake name and some one else's SS#, story has changed several times, is being guarded by a private security firm, allowed to leave the country after being SHOT, ....uh do I need to go on! This official story just on this one guy alone is enough to question the validity of everything associated with this operation. I know one thing if I had an open wound from a gunshot to my leg, the first thing I would want to do is run to MEXICO! Remember while he was in Mexico driving a rental car with his gun shot wounded leg, the official story for that week was that the FBI & LVPD did not know where he was, his union rep did not know where he was ......gheesh really.
In the infamous words of Obi-Won ...These are not the droids you are looking for...move along.
Nothing to see here America ...move along...how bout them bears or cowboys!
my 2 cents
rehabdoc

[mountain_jim]

Guess that's where the missing laptop drive went.

Very likely his role and involvement is much different than the official story.

[Hervé]

No broken windows (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1187071&viewfull=1#post1187071) yet... no lights either:


http://fotos02.laopinioncoruna.es/2017/10/03/690x278/policia-descarta.jpg (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panamatoday.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2017-10%2Fataque%2520nota.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panamatoday.com%2Finternational%2Ffbi-dismissed-connection-between-las-vegas-gunman-and-isis-5387&docid=_ACBg6Fzb6ayVM&tbnid=zKMWCBLOqEhhLM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjzhszowY7XAhWBLhoKHeQkCeAQMwgmKAAwAA..i&w=4121&h=2319&hl=en&bih=791&biw=1410&q=Las%20Vegas&ved=0ahUKEwjzhszowY7XAhWBLhoKHeQkCeAQMwgmKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8)
High rez: http://www.panamatoday.com/sites/default/files/2017-10/ataque%20nota.jpg

(http://www.panamatoday.com/sites/default/files/2017-10/ataque%20nota.jpg)
http://media.graytvinc.com/images/lasvegas.jpg
High rez: https://gdb.voanews.com/8ebfa731-1555-4fc0-9a0f-405663738a45_tv_w1200_r1_s.jpg


... anyone not yet realized how incriminating this is?

[Tintin]

Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert, recorded October 2nd and posted to Youtube on October 6th. I've undertaken a quick search on the thread and it hasn't been posted up before, at least as much as I can ascertain.

TvClip.biz clip here: https://tvclip.biz/video/0rT9gzoc684/las-vegas-shooting-my-story-route-91-harvest-festival-10-1-2017.html

YouTube clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M1x7NZVyk

[Cidersomerset]

About this video, i saw THIS comment: "At 16:00 mark you can see something
flying around the right corner of the hotel. Watch it in full screen and keep your eye on
the right corner around the 32nd floor. It looks like something is flying around shooting.".


Yeah there is a light in the back ground , in the Rence interview above #784 they
bring up a possible helicopter over head and there is a large drone base relatively
near by, and of course the airport. I would of thought there would of been air
assets in the area pretty soon, but cannot point to anything. It may have already
been discussed earlier ?

====================================================
====================================================


Tucker asks a couple of interesting questions about FBI and sheriffs office...
That Paddock was not the 'ghost' as the FBI claim , and why was Campos
allowed to go back to Mexico and had no licence as a security guard and more....

Exclusive: Security guard left country after Vegas massacre

hpQMELiOUJs

Published on 25 Oct 2017
Source provides document that shows Jesus Campos, the only eyewitness to
the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, entering the United States from
Mexico at the San Ysidro border crossing in San Diego county almost exactly
one week after the Las Vegas massacre. Why did Campos go to Mexico? Many
questions remain unanswered in massacre. #Tucker

===================================================

MYSTERIOUS NEW DETAILS on Vegas!

5ahA8wu0Ngc
Published on 25 Oct 2017

[Cidersomerset]

This fits the MO of a professional assassin , it does not make sense


Report: Vegas shooter removed hard drive from laptop

s4UN1rRN9Fk

Published on 25 Oct 2017
Counterterrorism expert Aaron Cohen reacts to reports about a laptop found
in Stephen Paddock's hotel room.

===================================================
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RT NEWS...

Las Vegas shooter's laptop hard drive missing, brother charged with child porn

Published 26 oct.....
'Investigators recovered a laptop computer from Las Vegas shooter Stephen
Paddock's hotel room, but its hard drive is missing. In a separate case, Paddock’s
brother has been charged with possession of child pornography.

Investigators believe Paddock removed the hard drive from the laptop before he
fatally shot himself, following the October 1 mass shooting from his Mandalay Bay
hotel room in Las Vegas, according to unnamed sources, ABC News reported
Wednesday.

Read more
https://www.rt.com/usa/407799-stephen-paddock-bruce-paddock/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Stafan Molyneux tries to debunk conspiracy theories but is having trouble with Paddock...

Las Vegas Shooter's Brother Arrested For Child Pornography

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQZjXyCRUk
Published on 25 Oct 2017...Stefan Molyneux

====================================================
====================================================

Stephen Paddock's Brother Arrested For Child Porn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5NztaL5A3s

Published on 25 Oct 2017
The plot thickens in the Vegas investigation. Does Stephen Paddock have any
connections to this filth like his brother did?

[Slorri]

Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert, recorded October 2nd and posted to Youtube on October 6th. I've undertaken a quick search on the thread and it hasn't been posted up before, at least as much as I can ascertain.

TvClip.biz clip here: https://tvclip.biz/video/0rT9gzoc684/las-vegas-shooting-my-story-route-91-harvest-festival-10-1-2017.html

YouTube clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M1x7NZVyk

Notice how they often make this mistake of giving too much details in their narratives to make it sound more genuine.
If the event was real then you would not present a narrative like this, but on the other hand, if you want to make it sound real, then this might be exactly what you would do.
They are painting a picture but they are overdoing it.

[Flash]

I do not agree with you because some people need to recount and tell every detail in order to process the stress. I am one of those needing to name the unbelievable difficult details.

Furthermore she tells about gunfire in other casinos, about the shooting becoming louder and louder (therefore nearer) which means multiple on the ground shooters This is contrary to the official stories. My bet: she is for real



Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert, recorded October 2nd and posted to Youtube on October 6th. I've undertaken a quick search on the thread and it hasn't been posted up before, at least as much as I can ascertain.

TvClip.biz clip here: https://tvclip.biz/video/0rT9gzoc684/las-vegas-shooting-my-story-route-91-harvest-festival-10-1-2017.html

YouTube clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M1x7NZVyk

Notice how they often make this mistake of giving too much details in their narratives to make it sound more genuine.
If the event was real then you would not present a narrative like this, but on the other hand, if you want to make it sound real, then this might be exactly what you would do.
They are painting a picture but they are overdoing it.

[Tintin]

This fits the MO of a professional assassin , it does not make sense


Report: Vegas shooter removed hard drive from laptop

s4UN1rRN9Fk

Published on 25 Oct 2017
Counterterrorism expert Aaron Cohen reacts to reports about a laptop found
in Stephen Paddock's hotel room.

===================================================
===================================================

RT NEWS...

Las Vegas shooter's laptop hard drive missing, brother charged with child porn

Published 26 oct.....
'Investigators recovered a laptop computer from Las Vegas shooter Stephen
Paddock's hotel room, but its hard drive is missing. In a separate case, Paddock’s
brother has been charged with possession of child pornography.

Investigators believe Paddock removed the hard drive from the laptop before he
fatally shot himself, following the October 1 mass shooting from his Mandalay Bay
hotel room in Las Vegas, according to unnamed sources, ABC News reported
Wednesday.

Read more
https://www.rt.com/usa/407799-stephen-paddock-bruce-paddock/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

==================================================
==================================================

Stafan Molyneux tries to debunk conspiracy theories but is having trouble with Paddock...

Las Vegas Shooter's Brother Arrested For Child Pornography

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQZjXyCRUk
Published on 25 Oct 2017...Stefan Molyneux

====================================================
====================================================

Stephen Paddock's Brother Arrested For Child Porn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5NztaL5A3s

Published on 25 Oct 2017
The plot thickens in the Vegas investigation. Does Stephen Paddock have any
connections to this filth like his brother did?

Thanks for posting this Cider. I've made the point before as well that this was an execution job, done by a 'cell' contracted to pull this off, expertly; this is not the work of a lone individual, never was, and never will be. Anybody still bogged down with that idea does, gently in my view, need to be snapped out of it extraordinarily quickly. And with a recent post you drew the parallel with the supposed release of JFK files (um, right, so they'll be revealing actualness will they? - my doubt. The Beeb even ran a story around this earlier still asserting LHO in their narrative. Blinking flip.) that dovetails, and the ever so convenient lone-gunman narrative around this horror. Synchronicity! Dear oh dear...

[Tintin]

I do not agree with you because some people need to recount and tell every detail in order to process the stress. I am one of those needing to name the unbelievable difficult details.

Furthermore she tells about gunfire in other casinos, about the shooting becoming louder and louder (therefore nearer) which means multiple on the ground shooters This is contrary to the official stories. My bet: she is for real



Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert, recorded October 2nd and posted to Youtube on October 6th. I've undertaken a quick search on the thread and it hasn't been posted up before, at least as much as I can ascertain.

TvClip.biz clip here: https://tvclip.biz/video/0rT9gzoc684/las-vegas-shooting-my-story-route-91-harvest-festival-10-1-2017.html

YouTube clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M1x7NZVyk

Notice how they often make this mistake of giving too much details in their narratives to make it sound more genuine.
If the event was real then you would not present a narrative like this, but on the other hand, if you want to make it sound real, then this might be exactly what you would do.
They are painting a picture but they are overdoing it.

(With respect to Slorri but it's a confused reading):Flash, I'm with you on this. This is not made-up stuff. This young woman went through this. Of course there'll be certain recall, and certain gaps. It was a traumatic experience wasn't it. One always tries to imagine what it may be like to be stuck in a situation like that, and, to tell you the truth in as much as I can imagine it, I'd probably do and say similar things. It's a catharsis, a necessary healing to let it out. Then is not a time to get bogged down in actual fact, that comes later. Her commentary on her thread on Youtube further compounds its genuineness in my view. She was not acting, at all.

[turiya]

Rense interview with Joel Skousen gets into the Russia collusion narrative shifting to the DNC & Hillary Clinton...

Here's Rense getting Joel Skousen's take on the possibility of a military strike on N.K. in perhaps November... They get into the Vegas shooting ~ @ 23:00... "'they' are attempting to paint the Paddock family as dysfunctional"... a massive coverup going on...

Multiple shooters at several hotels - appears to be a Las Vegas city-wide operation.


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kdfvyFh53Ug/V7KPb9O-fLI/AAAAAAAAARg/9cVXocN79o0QF-vXKSWmbqyIQ7xEqa1dQCLcB/s1600/rense.gif (http://rense.com/)

(10/25/2017)
Hour 2 - Joel Skousen -
World Affairs Brief

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TALKSHOE_MP3_PLAYER.png (https://archive.org/download/Rense.20171025/Rense.20171025.2of3.mp3)
Joel Skousen Website (https://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/)

More narrative spin... (MSM is now pushing this 'big-time' (https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=FUnyWcCrDKmpjwSJw6HQAQ&q=paddock+brother+arrested&oq=paddock+brother+arrested&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i3k1.2137.8605.0.9398.25.24.0.0.0.0.148.265 4.5j19.24.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.24.2646.0..0j46j0i131k1j0i131i46k1j46i131k1j 0i46k1j0i22i30k1.0.iDt2iuOb2a4))

Yournewswire article (http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-paddock-child-trafficking/) & NY NETTLE (http://nynettle.com/) = fake news sites: Attempting to paint Stephen Paddock as a human / child trafficker...

Skousen also believes that the story of his brother, Bruce Douglas Paddock, being arrested for child porn is also a tainted story...

PA Members should remember a time here on PA where it was a concern for child porn being used to target certain individuals (I think Bill Ryan had such a concern at the time) when porn was in fact being planted on the computers of certain individuals...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5eMp5RpTyw

[KiwiElf]

20/20, the "Investigative" Documentary ran a very contrived program here on TV News channels just a couple of nights ago pumping the single shooter narrative, all beautifully scripted and presented by "witnesses", some of whom appeared to me to be actors. Even the most "bogan" of these witnesses all had perfect teeth, perfect haircuts and never stammered, stumbled or missed a word. They had it all sewn up (not)! That was quick! :idea:

[ThePythonicCow]

Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert

Notice how they often make this mistake of giving too much details in their narratives to make it sound more genuine.
If the event was real then you would not present a narrative like this, but on the other hand, if you want to make it sound real, then this might be exactly what you would do.
They are painting a picture but they are overdoing it.
She keeps looking up and to her right (our left). I did a Google search for images using the search terms "body language eye direction", and the first few images that came up all agreed that looking up that way is more commonly associated with constructing images from one's imagination, rather than recalling images from one's memory.

... oops :).

[Satori]

I believe she was looking up and to her left. My research and experience is that when one is recalling a memory, one looks up and to the left as she did. (Try it on yourself or someone you know. Ask them for a date when something occurred or where they were on a certain day and time a few months ago or last year. Watch their eyes and head.)

I was watching her eye movements closely. In my opinion she was recalling memory, not tapping into imagination. She looked up and to the left and even lifted her head slightly to the left to find the memory. When people are drawing on imagination they tend to look down and to the right.

I find her credible. When she refers to shots from Mandalay, however, she is recalling what she has heard about that, not what she claims to have personally seen or heard. Same with respect to shooting at other locations. What she claims to have heard depicts a shooter or shooters who were closer to her and approaching.

In the final analysis, her testimonial carries little weight in the sense of it being helpful in anyway towards determining what actually happened. We will likely never know what actually happened, just like JFK, 9/11 etc... That information is way above our pay grade. We have no "need to know" as far as the perpetrators are concerned.

Like 9/11 was followed promptly by the anthrax scare and then promptly thereafter by the "DC sniper" scare, so too the Las Vegas shooting by the CA fires and Weinstein fiasco. Nothing like more stress, fear and distractions to give the perpetrators time to clean up the crime scene and plant more false narratives in the minds of the gullible.

But that's OK, we can all go back to sleep now.

[ThePythonicCow]

That information is way above our pay grade.
Indeed :).

[Flash]

Paul, you have a true expert in NLP (me) and someone quite knowledgeable at non verbal cues (some would consider themselves as experts at my level) and Satori above is right in his analysis. Sorry

Looking up is when you see images, right from one’sown body is imagination 75 percent of the time (25 percent of people are programned in reverse) and looking at your left relates to memory. This is true in NLP and in unrelated to NLP studies on non verbal language.




Chantal Marx recounting her experience from being at the concert

Notice how they often make this mistake of giving too much details in their narratives to make it sound more genuine.
If the event was real then you would not present a narrative like this, but on the other hand, if you want to make it sound real, then this might be exactly what you would do.
They are painting a picture but they are overdoing it.
She keeps looking up and to her right (our left). I did a Google search for images using the search terms "body language eye direction", and the first few images that came up all agreed that looking up that way is more commonly associated with constructing images from one's imagination, rather than recalling images from one's memory.

... oops :).

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, you have a true expert in NLP (me) and someone quite knowledgeable at non verbal cues (some would consider themselves as experts at my level) and Satori above is right in his analysis. Sorry
Excellent - all I know about such matters is what I just (mis?)read in Google searches :).

[Flash]

I appreciate you anyhow, í have learned so much from you through the years, time for me to give back



Paul, you have a true expert in NLP (me) and someone quite knowledgeable at non verbal cues (some would consider themselves as experts at my level) and Satori above is right in his analysis. Sorry
Excellent - all I know about such matters is what I just (mis?)read in Google searches :).

[Bill Ryan]

Looking up is when you see images, right from one’s own body is imagination 75 percent of the time (25 percent of people are programmed in reverse) and looking at your left relates to memory.

Yes, that's correct. But the 75-25 thing means that it can't reliably be used to determine recall vs. imagination in any new person you were observing.... you'd be 100% wrong about them as often as 1 time in 4.

To make an accurate assessment, you'd ideally already have to know the person in question. I'd not really want to be judged like that if it was me!

[Satori]

Looking up is when you see images, right from one’s own body is imagination 75 percent of the time (25 percent of people are programmed in reverse) and looking at your left relates to memory.

Yes, that's correct. But the 75-25 thing means that it can't reliably be used to determine recall vs. imagination in any new person you were observing.... you'd be 100% wrong about them as often as 1 time in 4.

To make an accurate assessment, you'd ideally already have to know the person in question. I'd not really want to be judged like that if it was me!

Yes, it's averages and a general rule. But you'd also be 100% correct 3 out of 4 times. Not a bad outcome, on average.

People can be telling the truth based upon their perception of what they saw or heard, yet be completely wrong or inaccurate as to the facts. They are not lying, merely mistaken.

In my opinion, this young lady is not lying or serving as a crisis actor. Not at all. She is relating as best she can what she perceived that night.

[Bill Ryan]

Report: Vegas shooter removed hard drive from laptop



Jake Morphonios discusses this here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8N7bJLUxNc
Jake reels off a long list of incidents over the years, all involving shootings, in which the prime suspect removed their hard drive and/or destroyed it.

That's interesting enough. But, wait a minute.

Supposing you, reading this, suddenly wanted to remove your hard drive from your desktop or laptop. How easy is that to do? (With a Mac, not at all. To even start, you need a special screwdriver that's not at all easy to find.)

Surely it's easier to run over the machine with a truck, and then douse it in flames. And finally, throw it in the river. Or, something like that.

And before that, reformat/erase the drive, which takes maybe 60 seconds. (That doesn't always make all data forensically irrecoverable. But it's an easy thing to do.)

To physically remove the drive is fiddly, takes time, and one needs technical expertise and tools — and even after that, one needs to dispose of the thing anyway.

What's wrong with this picture?

[ThePythonicCow]

The following video, from 1975, about the Vietnam War and the CIA's Project Phoenix committing senseless genocide of the Vietnamese, may (sadly) provide an answer to your struggle.

It seems that when we send our young men off to brutal, senseless, wars (are there any other kind?), then some of them, often those who had fathers similarly brutalized, end up being efficient, order following, killers.
This post is a bit further off topic for this thread, but it fits in well with the above, somewhat off topic post.

In this weeks #NewWorldNextWeek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUj42QxWe0), Story #3 covers "Phoenix 2.0: CIA To Unleash Vietnam Era Terror Campaign On Afghanistan".

The CIA is resurrecting the Phoenix program, now in Afghanistan. Here are three of the sources that James Corbett and James Evan Pilato provide for this story:

Phoenix 2.0 - CIA To Unleash Vietnam Era Terror Campaign On Afghanistan (MoonOfAlabama.org) (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/10/phoenix-20-the-cias-vietnam-war-terror-campaign-comes-to-afghanistan.html)
The Phoenix Program: America's Use of Terror in Vietnam, a book by Douglas Valentine, Mark Crispin Miller (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22309162-the-phoenix-program)
Douglas Valentine on the Resurrection of the Phoenix Program, Interview 1248 by James Corbett (https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1248-douglas-valentine-on-the-resurrection-of-the-phoenix-program/)

The first of these three sources begins with this overview:

===========

Last week the new head of the CIA Mike Pompeo publicly threatened to make the CIA a "much more vicious agency". His first step towards that is to unleash CIA sponsored killer gangs onto the people of Afghanistan:

The C.I.A. is expanding its covert operations in Afghanistan, sending small teams of highly experienced officers and contractors alongside Afghan forces to hunt and kill Taliban militants across the country ...

The C.I.A.’s expanded role will augment missions carried out by military units, meaning more of the United States’ combat role in Afghanistan will be hidden from public view.
This will be mass murder campaign. People will be pulled from their houses at night and vanish - 'eliminated'. That has been happening in Afghanistan for years, but on a relatively small scale. So far the targets were 'al-Qaeda', a small terrorist group, not the local insurgency. The new campaign will target the Taliban, a mass insurgency against the U.S. occupation. Thus is will be a mass campaign and cause mass casualties.
===========

[Flash]

Looking up is when you see images, right from one’s own body is imagination 75 percent of the time (25 percent of people are programmed in reverse) and looking at your left relates to memory.

Yes, that's correct. But the 75-25 thing means that it can't reliably be used to determine recall vs. imagination in any new person you were observing.... you'd be 100% wrong about them as often as 1 time in 4.

To make an accurate assessment, you'd ideally already have to know the person in question. I'd not really want to be judged like that if it was me!

that is correct - you either have to know the person so that you can ask questions to verify its wiring and establish an evaluation basis, question like "what have you done yesterday" and then check the eyes movements or ask "what have you eaten yesterday morning" - eveybody will answer, nothing to hide. Then you know if the person is wired like most or if the person is reverse wired. And this has nothing to do with being right or left handed.

We alsways have to check reactions to the environment (ex. when someone looks at the interviewer, to answer questions, the something is asked from the interviewee's past, is the interviewee looking at its right or left? What if the cameraman is at the interviewee's right and has made a movement at the same time you were asking the question, movement which attracted the interviewees eyes? yet, the interviewee answers truthfully and is not making up stories, he is just distracted from its habitual way of answering for past stuff.)

I am always prudent before judging based on non verbal language.

[Inaiá]

About this video, i saw THIS comment: "At 16:00 mark you can see something
flying around the right corner of the hotel. Watch it in full screen and keep your eye on
the right corner around the 32nd floor. It looks like something is flying around shooting.".


Yeah there is a light in the back ground , in the Rence interview above #784 they
bring up a possible helicopter over head and there is a large drone base relatively
near by, and of course the airport. I would of thought there would of been air
assets in the area pretty soon, but cannot point to anything. It may have already
been discussed earlier ?

I'll watch that video. Thanks.

Didn't find any previous discussion on this... But I may have missed it.

[Cidersomerset]

Tucker speaks to Jesus Campos union president/rep and he answers some questions
guardedly but genuinely as far as he was prepared to go. He did shed light on MGM
being in control of Campos's responses and the nature of his shrapnel injuries in his
thigh two fragments and more....


Union President responds to new questions about Vegas guard

3wcGeinbenE

Published on 26 Oct 2017
Tucker posed questions about why Jesus Campos, the only eyewitness to the
mass shooting in Las Vegas, went to Mexico a week after the massacre and
whether he is a licensed security guard. A union rep responds. #Tucker


===================================================

David Knight musing over events before the union rep appeared on Tucker show above...

More Questions About Vegas “Hero” Campos Emerge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qUE7GSMeY

Published on 26 Oct 2017
The “hero” of the Las Vegas mass shooting, Jesus Campos, has now been exposed
by a leak from law enforcement. The union is changing its story about him and
the “video poker multimillionaire” paid off his gambling debts just before he died.

[Nasu]

Tucker speaks to Jesus Campos union president/rep and he answers some questions
guardedly but genuinely as far as he was prepared to go. He did shed light on MGM
being in control of Campos's responses and the nature of his shrapnel injuries in his
thigh two fragments and more....


Union President responds to new questions about Vegas guard

3wcGeinbenE

Published on 26 Oct 2017
Tucker posed questions about why Jesus Campos, the only eyewitness to the
mass shooting in Las Vegas, went to Mexico a week after the massacre and
whether he is a licensed security guard. A union rep responds. #Tucker


===================================================

David Knight musing over events before the union rep appeared on Tucker show above...

More Questions About Vegas “Hero” Campos Emerge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qUE7GSMeY

Published on 26 Oct 2017
The “hero” of the Las Vegas mass shooting, Jesus Campos, has now been exposed
by a leak from law enforcement. The union is changing its story about him and
the “video poker multimillionaire” paid off his gambling debts just before he died.

Tucker dosen't buy it, you can tell in his eyes. So silly. What a story. Unraveling by the day. But unfortunately that does not mean that it won't stick... N

[Ewan]

Looking up is when you see images, right from one’s own body is imagination 75 percent of the time (25 percent of people are programmed in reverse) and looking at your left relates to memory.

Yes, that's correct. But the 75-25 thing means that it can't reliably be used to determine recall vs. imagination in any new person you were observing.... you'd be 100% wrong about them as often as 1 time in 4.

To make an accurate assessment, you'd ideally already have to know the person in question. I'd not really want to be judged like that if it was me!

Yes, it's averages and a general rule. But you'd also be 100% correct 3 out of 4 times. Not a bad outcome, on average.

People can be telling the truth based upon their perception of what they saw or heard, yet be completely wrong or inaccurate as to the facts. They are not lying, merely mistaken.

In my opinion, this young lady is not lying or serving as a crisis actor. Not at all. She is relating as best she can what she perceived that night.

Might the left/right divide be as simple as brain hemisphere dominance? Left handers more likely to look up to the right for instance.

Just an idle thought, I'm sure someone would have already worked that out by now if it were the case.

[alexius]

Tucker speaks to Jesus Campos union president/rep and he answers some questions
guardedly but genuinely as far as he was prepared to go. He did shed light on MGM
being in control of Campos's responses and the nature of his shrapnel injuries in his
thigh two fragments and more....


Union President responds to new questions about Vegas guard

3wcGeinbenE

Published on 26 Oct 2017
Tucker posed questions about why Jesus Campos, the only eyewitness to the
mass shooting in Las Vegas, went to Mexico a week after the massacre and
whether he is a licensed security guard. A union rep responds. #Tucker


===================================================

David Knight musing over events before the union rep appeared on Tucker show above...

More Questions About Vegas “Hero” Campos Emerge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qUE7GSMeY

Published on 26 Oct 2017
The “hero” of the Las Vegas mass shooting, Jesus Campos, has now been exposed
by a leak from law enforcement. The union is changing its story about him and
the “video poker multimillionaire” paid off his gambling debts just before he died.

To me this really looks and appears like he is reading answers from a screen/livefeed. Someone is there with him feeding him answers.

It was very obvious from 4 minutes ->

[Satori]

This man is a seasoned and polished presenter. That's one reason why he holds the position he does.

He met with high level people at MGM, including a legal team, and they prepared him for the interview. One rule that he followed quite well, is to answer the question and not elaborate at all. Fewer words is better. For instance, if the question can be answered with a "yes" or "no" then that is all you say. Make the interviewer follow up. Do not feed any new questions by giving a narrative answer to prior questions that will lead to new questions. Questions that perhaps the interviewer had not considered. Also, one can always say "I don't know", which he did a few times, even if he did know. That's lying if he did know, but he was not under oath.

[TargeT]

[/B][/I]Supposing you, reading this, suddenly wanted to remove your hard drive from your desktop or laptop. How easy is that to do? (With a Mac, not at all. To even start, you need a special screwdriver that's not at all easy to find.)

Surely it's easier to run over the machine with a truck, and then douse it in flames. And finally, throw it in the river. Or, something like that.

And before that, reformat/erase the drive, which takes maybe 60 seconds. (That doesn't always make all data forensically irrecoverable. But it's an easy thing to do.)

To physically remove the drive is fiddly, takes time, and one needs technical expertise and tools — and even after that, one needs to dispose of the thing anyway.

What's wrong with this picture?

This is very easily done on the vast majority of non-Apple devices, it's generally 1 to 3 Phillips screws and then you can pull the hard drive out.
http://www.insidemylaptop.com/images/Dell-Inspiron-1720-Vostro-1700/disassemble-laptop-02.jpg

a 60 second format to a hard drive will leave upwards of 95% of your data still easily recoverable. I do forensics on disk and solid state drives as well as memory (RAM) scavenging if the machine is still on.

Since most people do not use Apple products, I'd say this is a very plausible and easily accomplished action (removal of hard drive).

[TrumanCash]

Here is the Scott Binsack phone interview with Tropicana guest "Kevin" (https://vimeo.com/239598518) who was a witness, helped by directing terrified people to safety and helped the hotel security during the Vegas shootings.

(Note: The video is hard to listen to due to low volume of the speaker phone and high volume of Binsack talking. Fortunately, he does not talk as much and allows the witness to do most of the talking.)

SUMMARY:

"Kevin" witnessed mass rush of people into the Tropicana main (northwest) tower, hiding under gaming tables, etc, in panic and chaos--"real blood", injured people, says emphatically not a hoax.

He went outside of Tropicana and saw a woman about eight feet away getting hit by bullet to the head outside on the sidewalk and she was then helped by an RN who was also injured (apparently next to Las Vegas Blvd and near the overhead walkway to Excalibur).

They were told only that there were multiple gunmen on the strip shooting at everybody. He was unaware of the concert shootings.

"Kevin" believes he came face to face with one of the shooters while helping security. Two guys in plain clothes with "AK 47" and "9mm" coming out of elevator in Club Tower of Tropicana take control of security and then later--"out of the......blue" turned AK 47 on security saying "Everybody get down."--But men with guns suddenly leave.

(Club Tower is the other high Tropicana tower/building to the southeast and closer to Hooters. Club Tower is within shooting range of the concert and multiple witnesses reported sounds of gun fire coming from this building including two girls at that building who reported shooting "overhead". Both Tropicana towers had purple flood lights. As viewed from concert videos it is the one on the right.)

He says it was more than an hour after shootings before any Las Vegas Police Dept. showed up at Tropicana.

He says it took about eighty minutes after shootings before swat team arrived and one of them said repeatedly "This is a crime scene."

Swat secured the "crime scene" and told people (including Tropicana security) to go into the Pavilion Room of the Club Tower (which was very possibly one of shooters' high positions).


https://vimeo.com/239598518

[TrumanCash]

Here is a well-done video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3VC7iNa-w&t=638) that shows a different perspective visually on a 3D map that is based upon Mike Adam's video analyzing the shooting sounds that expose a second shooter.

It is interesting to see that according the math calculations the Mandelay Bay area shooter is about the same distance away as the Tropicana Club Tower building officially-unverified shooter, which has been pointed out by firsthand witnesses as being a shooter position (possibly open window or roof top).

Mike Adams based his calculations on .223 caliber but that caliber has not been verified in any credible way to the best of my knowledge (i.e., the official story is not credible). Some analyses by ex-military, etc, indicated the possibility of belt-fed machine guns or otherwise different types of rifles. So the concentric circles may not be exactly where they should be on the map.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3VC7iNa-w&t=638

[Franny]

Interesting. I wondered if the subject of weaponized drones was going to come up for the Las Vegas attack and not it has.

Several years ago Obama promised that the he would have 15,000 drones operating in the US, tho weaponized versions were never mentioned.

Thanks for posting this!



It is interesting to see that according the math calculations the Mandelay Bay area shooter is about the same distance away as the Tropicana Club Tower building officially-unverified shooter, which has been pointed out by firsthand witnesses as being a shooter position (possibly open window or roof top).

Mike Adams based his calculations on .223 caliber but that caliber has not been verified in any credible way to the best of my knowledge (i.e., the official story is not credible). Some analyses by ex-military, etc, indicated the possibility of belt-fed machine guns or otherwise different types of rifles. So the concentric circles may not be exactly where they should be on the map.

[Bill Ryan]

Here is the Scott Binsack phone interview with Tropicana guest "Kevin" (https://vimeo.com/239598518) who was a witness, helped by directing terrified people to safety and helped the hotel security during the Vegas shootings.

(Note: The video is hard to listen to due to low volume of the speaker phone and high volume of Binsack talking. Fortunately, he does not talk as much and allows the witness to do most of the talking.)

SUMMARY:

"Kevin" witnessed mass rush of people into the Tropicana main (northwest) tower, hiding under gaming tables, etc, in panic and chaos--"real blood", injured people, says emphatically not a hoax.

He went outside of Tropicana and saw a woman about eight feet away getting hit by bullet to the head outside on the sidewalk and she was then helped by an RN who was also injured (apparently next to Las Vegas Blvd and near the overhead walkway to Excalibur).

They were told only that there were multiple gunmen on the strip shooting at everybody. He was unaware of the concert shootings.

"Kevin" believes he came face to face with one of the shooters while helping security. Two guys in plain clothes with "AK 47" and "9mm" coming out of elevator in Club Tower of Tropicana take control of security and then later--"out of the......blue" turned AK 47 on security saying "Everybody get down."--But men with guns suddenly leave.

(Club Tower is the other high Tropicana tower/building to the southeast and closer to Hooters. Club Tower is within shooting range of the concert and multiple witnesses reported sounds of gun fire coming from this building including two girls at that building who reported shooting "overhead". Both Tropicana towers had purple flood lights. As viewed from concert videos it is the one on the right.)

He says it was more than an hour after shootings before any Las Vegas Police Dept. showed up at Tropicana.

He says it took about eighty minutes after shootings before swat team arrived and one of them said repeatedly "This is a crime scene."

Swat secured the "crime scene" and told people (including Tropicana security) to go into the Pavilion Room of the Club Tower (which was very possibly one of shooters' high positions).


https://vimeo.com/239598518

I equalized the audio, and this important testimony is now much easier to hear:


http://projectavalon.net/MFA_Bombshell_Tropicana_Witness.mp3

[Tintin]

George French: British Eyewitness
"I was hid under a container with a guy and two girls. The guy got shot straight in the head."

The subject of this shooting came up quite randomly whilst I was enjoying a drink with a friend in Trowbridge (Wiltshire, England) yesterday (October 27th). Quite to my surprise he then said that he knew somebody who was there at the time. I did of course ask “Was he actually at the concert?” and ‘J’ confirmed that he was; that he had worked with him in a previous job at a local utilities company which is how he got to know him; that he could vouch for his integrity and that he’d known him now for about 4-5 years. George apparently travels to Las Vegas very regularly, about once a month I was told, so he would most definitely have been there.

I’m having a little difficulty tracking down the BBC Points West October 4th audio, but, there are links to articles posted in local media here in England’s South West.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-holidaymaker-describes-how-man-579505

[Tintin]

Heather Gibbons: live footage from the 16th floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel - October 1st:

Post edit: now unfortunately unavailable on YouTube. I've downloaded it already and will see if the moderator team are happy to make this available as an mp4 for the forum. TQ 29/10/2017.

...but does now appear to have resurfaced here. How long for is anybody's guess. It has been rather clumsily retitled but is the same footage as posted earlier:

TvClip.biz here - [/URL]

https://tvclip.biz/video/blu0cPWvWOM/%E2%9A%A1new-las-vegas-shooting-from-16th-floor-opposite-end-of-stephen-paddocks-room-mandalay-bay.html

No longer functional Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KMe35hkGBU (https://tvclip.biz/video/blu0cPWvWOM/%E2%9A%A1new-las-vegas-shooting-from-16th-floor-opposite-end-of-stephen-paddocks-room-mandalay-bay.html)


[ Mod-edit:

Tintin Quarantino provided me with the copy he downloaded and I uploaded it to my server.

Here's a link to the video file: [url]http://thepythoniccow.us/videoplaybackHeatherGibbonsfrom16thFloorMandalayBa y.mp4 .

Also, here's a link to a good article describing what Heather did and observed that night: Aberdeen natives describe chaotic scene as Vegas gunman opened fire on concert goers (http://www.thedailyworld.com/news/aberdeen-natives-describe-chaotic-scene-as-vegas-gunman-opened-fire-on-concert-goers/)


-- Paul. ]

[TrumanCash]

This is an interesting video by a credible independent investigative journalist Jake Morphonios who interviews a Las Vegas Uber driver. The driver talked with a witness to the shootings who ran from the concert in front of the stage to NY, NY and Excalibur casinos where he saw bodies in front of the street (starts at 4:30). The testimony of this witness confirms other reports by firsthand witnesses including shooting coming from the Tropicana.

The interview covers other subjects like drop in business in Vegas after shootings, Vegas gambling, etc.

I've heard in another video of a Vegas resident that casino business has dropped off about fifty percent. Even mainstream publications are reporting the dramatic drop-off in business in Vegas.

The blatant cover-up is sad but ironic in that law enforcement is in effect saying come to Vegas and if you get shot or killed, we'll just lie about it and make a really clumsy attempt to cover it up. Are they literally implementing the "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" promotional motto? :facepalm:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gpVZkEXSsI

[Bill Ryan]

George French: British Eyewitness
"I was hid under a container with a guy and two girls. The guy got shot straight in the head."

The subject of this shooting came up quite randomly whilst I was enjoying a drink with a friend in Trowbridge (Wiltshire, England) yesterday (October 27th). Quite to my surprise he then said that he knew somebody who was there at the time. I did of course ask “Was he actually at the concert?” and ‘J’ confirmed that he was; that he had worked with him in a previous job at a local utilities company which is how he got to know him; that he could vouch for his integrity and that he’d known him now for about 4-5 years. George apparently travels to Las Vegas very regularly, about once a month I was told, so he would most definitely have been there.

I’m having a little difficulty tracking down the BBC Points West October 4th audio, but, there are links to articles posted in local media here in England’s South West.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-holidaymaker-describes-how-man-579505

Thanks... the article (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-holidaymaker-describes-how-man-579505) is is worth pasting (slightly edited to avoid redundancy), to preserve the testimony.

Bristol holidaymaker describes how man was shot dead next to him in Las Vegas massacre

4 Oct, 2017

https://i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/article579508.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/bristol-menPNG.png
George French, Jacob Munday and Joe McAlinden witnessed scenes of horror as they fled for their lives (Image: BBC)

Three men from Bristol have described seeing people killed all around them after they were caught up in the mass shooting in Las Vegas.

Three friends from Bristol - George French, Jacob Munday and Joe McAlinden - were at the country music festival. They re-lived the horror of being in the crowd that night in an interview with BBC Points West today.

The men described scenes of chaos, with people running in all directions as the sound of automatic gunfire rang out.

George French described seeing people "shot and bleeding", including one man who was shot dead while lying next to him, trying to take cover. He said:



“I was under the bar. In hindsight it was a pretty terrible place to be - I was right in the firing line. I was hid under a container with a guy and two girls. The guy got shot straight in the head, he was laid right next to me. One of the girls got up to run, she went out into the open and three or four meters later, she went down as well.”
Mr French said he waited for a break in the firing so he and the other woman could escape. Mr Munday described hearing bullets passing his head. He said:



“One of the first things I saw, running away, was a couple laid on the ground, clearly dead. There was no life in them whatsoever. Everyone was running, climbing over barriers trying to get away from all this.”
Mr McAlinden said:



“I’ve never seen something so horrific in my life. A girl was shot dead while running, right in front of her mum. Medics came running straight out to try and resuscitate her and her mum was told she had to move, she had to go. I had to take her mum with me and away from the festival as fast as possible.”

[Cidersomerset]

Who is Liable for the Las Vegas Shooting?

MpRu3KayjIs

Published on 28 Oct 2017
Mike Papantonio and Attorney Richard Patterson talk about the wave of lawsuits
filed against several defendants, including Mandalay Bay, MGM Resorts, Live
Nation, and the concert promoter in Vegas after the Las Vegas shooting.

[TrumanCash]

Since multiple firsthand witnesses have indicated the Tropicana's "Club Tower" as one of the locations of the Vegas shooters, here is a video of room 2163 on the top floor of the Club Tower (previously called the Island Tower). It is the Club Tower Spa Suite and was newly remodeled in 2011 according to the video which was made in 2011.

The video shows the view from inside the rooms at :45 and 1:45.

The Club Tower is the closest Tropicana tower to the Harvest concert and to Hooters. The building is at a 45-degree angle to the four directions so one end points to the northeast and the other end points to the southwest.

This room would be on the southwest end of the Club Tower with the angled windows. This room is the top room on the end facing more toward the strip. It is a possible shooting position to the NYNY/Excalibur intersection where bodies in front of the street were reported and--as reported by another witness ("Kevin")--people being shot on Las Vegas Blvd in that area (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1187778&viewfull=1#post1187778). Some of the windows of these end rooms would also face more in the direction of the Harvest concert.

However, the roof top the Club Tower is also a possibility which would apparently give easy access to both target areas (except the area that is blocked by the Tropicana's "Paradise Tower" which is right by South Las Vegas Blvd). From a shooter's perspective I would think that the roof top would be a better place to be so that one's exact location is more difficult to detect and has more advantage to multiple target areas. However, I would also think that accessing the door(s) to the roof would trigger hotel security alarms.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ1p3mnoIs4

[Tintin]

George French: British Eyewitness
"I was hid under a container with a guy and two girls. The guy got shot straight in the head."

The subject of this shooting came up quite randomly whilst I was enjoying a drink with a friend in Trowbridge (Wiltshire, England) yesterday (October 27th). Quite to my surprise he then said that he knew somebody who was there at the time. I did of course ask “Was he actually at the concert?” and ‘J’ confirmed that he was; that he had worked with him in a previous job at a local utilities company which is how he got to know him; that he could vouch for his integrity and that he’d known him now for about 4-5 years. George apparently travels to Las Vegas very regularly, about once a month I was told, so he would most definitely have been there.

I’m having a little difficulty tracking down the BBC Points West October 4th audio, but, there are links to articles posted in local media here in England’s South West.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-holidaymaker-describes-how-man-579505

Thanks... the article (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-holidaymaker-describes-how-man-579505) is is worth pasting (slightly edited to avoid redundancy), to preserve the testimony.

Bristol holidaymaker describes how man was shot dead next to him in Las Vegas massacre

4 Oct, 2017

https://i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/article579508.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/bristol-menPNG.png
George French, Jacob Munday and Joe McAlinden witnessed scenes of horror as they fled for their lives (Image: BBC)

Three men from Bristol have described seeing people killed all around them after they were caught up in the mass shooting in Las Vegas.

Three friends from Bristol - George French, Jacob Munday and Joe McAlinden - were at the country music festival. They re-lived the horror of being in the crowd that night in an interview with BBC Points West today.

The men described scenes of chaos, with people running in all directions as the sound of automatic gunfire rang out.

George French described seeing people "shot and bleeding", including one man who was shot dead while lying next to him, trying to take cover. He said:



“I was under the bar. In hindsight it was a pretty terrible place to be - I was right in the firing line. I was hid under a container with a guy and two girls. The guy got shot straight in the head, he was laid right next to me. One of the girls got up to run, she went out into the open and three or four meters later, she went down as well.”
Mr French said he waited for a break in the firing so he and the other woman could escape. Mr Munday described hearing bullets passing his head. He said:



“One of the first things I saw, running away, was a couple laid on the ground, clearly dead. There was no life in them whatsoever. Everyone was running, climbing over barriers trying to get away from all this.”
Mr McAlinden said:



“I’ve never seen something so horrific in my life. A girl was shot dead while running, right in front of her mum. Medics came running straight out to try and resuscitate her and her mum was told she had to move, she had to go. I had to take her mum with me and away from the festival as fast as possible.”


Thanks Bill, that's really excellent.

[Satori]

Who is Liable for the Las Vegas Shooting?

MpRu3KayjIs

Published on 28 Oct 2017
Mike edges Papantonio and Attorney Richard Patterson talk about the wave of lawsuits
filed against several defendants, including Mandalay Bay, MGM Resorts, Live
Nation, and the concert promoter in Vegas after the Las Vegas shooting.

The lawsuits are not unlike some of the 9/11 lawsuits, but in spades. Many people have learned the lessons of 9/11 and are not as likely to roll over and take it now, but rather, they are going to dig in and pull back the layers of the onion and seek answers to questions and redress of losses and grievances. This is good. It will be interesting to observe the developments of these cases.

Among the legal decisions at this time is where to sue, state court or federal court? Can any of these people sue in the state court or the federal court of the state where they live or lived, if that is other than Nevada? Or must they sue in Nevada state or US Distirct court?

That may seem like a mundane issue, but where a lawsuit is filed can be extremely important to the outcome of a case. Especially where, as here, the people and interests at the locale of the criminal and terrorist events may have reasons to not be forthcoming with any or much information, especially truthful information. But, if a plaintiff is in a court at a geographical, political and social distance from the locale of the event, the push for getting information can be stronger and thus more and better information can be obtained. No one wants to be "home towned" and a more friendly environment is preferable.

Keep your eyes and ears open for the formal discovery that takes place in these lawsuits. Discovery is the process in a lawsuit for obtaining documents and other information about the facts, or reasonably likely facts, of a case. Some jurisdictions call this process disclosure. Discovey in a lawsuit is very broad and almost everything that is not privileged or protected from disclosure, e.g , attorney client communications, are discoverable by the other side. What is discovered, or not, in these lawsuits could be revealing.

Bear with me for a minute: The casinos and other businesses and people being sued will have insurance. The local law enforcement agencies, as well as the FBI and others, will or may be sued too. They have risk management agencies that act as insurers for them. There will be many insurance companies involved. The US federal government as well as Nevada state government will be involved too. There will be more lawyers and other legal professionals, including judges and court staff, and government types involved in these lawsuits than you can shake a stick at. There will be , and darn well should be, discovery in these cases. Keep and eye on, and ear open, for what information is sought, what is provided, and very importantly, what is not provided.

Defendants in a lawsuit and their insurance companies do not, as a strict rule (if they are acting in accordance with contracts, statutes, regulations, and rules), pay claims without first engaging in discovery to learn the facts, or absence thereof, in support (or not) of the claim. Thus, one would expect the lawyers for the defendants (and the plaintiffs) and the lawyers for the insurance companies to be conducting formal discovery of every single aspect of the shooting(s), injuries and deaths, in the greatest and most minute detail. They should be. If they are not, then something stinks. Also, if the plaintiffs' lawyers are asking the right questions and seeking the right information, but the defendants don't provide it, that stinks too.

But, even if proper and competent discovery is done, all too often much of the information sought will not be produced, ever. Much will be opposed and a judge may be called upon to order it produced; which the judge may, or may not, do. Also, often what is produced will be largely redacted, and/or marked confidential and the information will be subject to court orders gagging anybody from talking about or producing the information in any form.

What I'm attempting to get across is this: some of these lawsuits will be in the many tens or more millions of dollars in individual claims, adding up to 100s of millions in claims. The plaintiffs, but also, and in some ways more so, Defendants and insurance companies have a strong interest in and motive to find out what really happened and who is really responsible. One reason for defendants and insurance companies is to be able to look to those actually responsible to recover the losses paid. This is called subrogation.

If the defendants and insurance companies do not do discovery to get to the truth and identify responsible parties, there is no desire to get to the truth. Keep and eye and ear on the discovery process in these cases. It will be revealing.

[Tintin]

🔥BREAKING VEGAS SHOOTING EYEWITNESS DANNY Contreras FOUND DEAD MULTIPLE GUNSHOT WOUNDS OCT 28 2017

Sourced from Karen Truther Girl YouTube page - original article here: http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-witness-gunmen-dead/

Danny Contreras, an eyewitness Las Vegas shooting survivor who publicly claimed there were multiple shooters involved in the attack, has been found dead in an empty house in Las Vegas with multiple gunshot wounds.

His body was found in a vacant home in the north-eastern valley after a neighbour heard a man groaning inside the building and called 911. Police say Contreras was dead when they arrived at the 5800 block of East Carey Avenue, near North Nellis Boulevard.

The woman who called emergency services to the scene says she didn’t hear any gunshots, but the coroner confirmed that Danny Contreras, 35, died of “multiple gunshot wounds” and ruled his death a homicide.

Danny Contreras has become the latest Las Vegas survivor to die in suspicious circumstances or disappear in the weeks following the shooting. Disturbing, the dead witnesses all have one thing in common – they all provided information that calls the official narrative into question, and they were all ignored by law enforcement and mainstream media.

Directly contradicting the official narrative that only one shooter fired on the Route 91 Harvest festival crowd, Danny Contreras tweeted the day after the attacks saying he was “lucky to be alive” after he was “chased by two gunmen”.

Posting on Twitter, Danny Contreras stood in solidarity with many of the survivors and insisted that there were multiple gunmen involved in the attack. His tweet was retweeted hundreds of times.

“Feeling lcky to be alive. cant beleive i got out of concert alive! 2 men chasing me with guns. not evry 1 so lcky.”

In the face of all evidence, and countless survivor testimonies, mainstream media is perpetuating a major cover up by claiming there was only one shooter.

Las Vegas Review Journal reported on the death of Danny Contrera and claim that Metropolitan Police Department homicide Lt. Dan McGrath told them Mr. Contreras may have had gang ties or have been involved in narcotics.

While this may or may not be true, what is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore is the number of bodies stacking up after the Las Vegas shooting.

Are they being silenced to stop the truth coming out?

John Beilman, who was wanted by federal agents following the discovery of a communications device in the hotel room of the officially identified shooter Stephen Paddock, killed both himself and his disabled daughter in an apparent murder-suicide

Chad Nishimura, the Mandalay Bay valet who parked Stephen Paddock’s car, went missing in the days following the shooting, after giving an interview to a Hawaiian mainstream outlet KITV4 in which he contradicted the official narrative, and pointed out that Paddock “didn’t have many bags.” Certainly not enough to cart 27 semi-automatic weapons, thousands of rounds and modifications up to the room.

Mr. Nishimura has yet to surface. Unfortunately the fate of other eyewitnesses is more certain. Kymberley Suchomel of Apple Valley, California, was found dead in her home, hours after her husband left for work. Ms. Suchomel gave a very detailed account of what happened in Las Vegas, insisting there were multiple gunmen involved in the shooting.

Claiming that mainstream media was not telling the truth

[Tintin]

This appears to be more footage from the perspective of the Mandalay Bay hotel observing the scene on the morning after:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbVekBqw5I

[Hervé]

The morning after... bodies still being removed from the field (view to the Southeast of the North end of the sound/lighting booth corridor):


http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/entertainment/2017/10/03/austin-city-limits-festival-offers-refunds-after-las-vegas-shooting/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-0.img.png/931/524/1507053789266.png?ve=1&tl=1&text=big-top-image (https://media-ncd.cmgdigital.com/photo/2017/10/03/Veteran_Steals_Trucks__Takes_Dozens_To_S_0_9370784_ver1.0_1280_720.jpg)


http://www.nwherald.com/_internal/cimg!0/hrunvu55hwzkkdvzlevcnnma3erzfwv

http://www.mnb.mn/uploads/201710/photos/9e009a6d1546805280e250d0178f2210_123705.jpg
High rez here: http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/picture-35.jpg


https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57f514c56b8f5b0e6b2093d9/t/59d40687914e6b869fbe6b7f/1507067533402/44F8D1ED00000578-0-image-a-7_1506980046957.jpg?format=750w

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/03/12/44F8D0A500000578-0-Investigators_load_bodies_from_the_scene_of_the_mass_shooting_on-a-35_1507030536003.jpg
High rez here: http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/featured_big/public/media/ap/2017/10/09/682571964a57499b87831558eb4a788d.jpg?itok=XWUudPwD

[Tintin]

RESCUE FOOTAGE: some fascinating and all too real footage filmed by one of the responders assisting with transport of victims to hospital and EM Centre/s:


https://tvclip.biz/video/zMqlAo06efA/%E2%9A%A1new-las-vegas-shooting-victims-rescue-oct-1-2017-%E2%9A%A1.html

[turiya]

Fifteen-year Veteran Las Vegas Security Guard says "Its a Big Fat Lie!"


Vegas Security Guard Says
“It’s a Big Fat Lie”, 1871
(Oct 29, 2017)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-n4u35lknXw/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/gBy2LFTGIpQ?t=2m44s)

WH Petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/peti... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=gBy2LFTGIpQ&event=video_description&redir_token=jJiqGEeMgmuHKpkbzeUE0cIIHdl8MTUwOTQ0ODU2NkAxNTA5MzYyMTY2&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpetitions.whitehouse.gov%2Fpetition%2Finvestigate-october-1st-mass-shooting-las-vegas)

Bill Still: So here's a guy who was called a 'hero' because he was evacuating people from rooms, while bleeding, after he was shot. Remember in version 1 of the story, it was police officers who 'insisted' that he go to the hospital. But then, Tucker Carlson, the day after the shooting, called all the Quick Cares in the city & they reported that Campos had not been there!

So how do they change the story now?
Now, they don't send him to the clinic until eleven days after he was shot?
So, what did he do? Put a turnique on his thigh, and then drive down to Mexico to deposit some money in a safe place?



Tucker Carlson: ...And who's 'We'? Who was taking him?

Union Rep: When we left the room, we were having a meeting with... uh... uh... three upper-level MGM management people. And when we left the room that we were in... uhmmm... our left the living room, it was Mr. Campos, one other security officer - a fellow officer - a fellow member of the union - and there was a corporate security officer.

Tucker: Yeah... Of course there was - MGM's in charge, clearly.


Bill Still: Now we hear the phone interview I did with a real Las Vegas casino security guard...

Hi Jason.

Jason: Hi, how's it go?

Bill Still: Well, this is a very interesting little nugget of information that you're adding into the pie, here...

Jason: Yeah, mmm...mmm... When I seen that interview with Tucker Carlson, that Union Rep just flat-out lied... about having certain license that Jesus Campos needed. You have to have a Sheriff's Card that is given out by the Metropolitan Police Department - that's a must to be... to work in a casino.

And when Tucker asked him about a special license, he flat-out said that Jesus Campos didn't need a Gaming Card, which is a lie. If you're going to be working around any type of slot machines, you needed a Gaming Card to Metropolitan Police Department. And if you are near bars, and you're working near the bars, you need an Alcohol Alertness Card that issued by the State.

So, he's suppose to have these two licenses, plus he's suppose to have his CPR/AED Certification (http://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/aed/aed-training/aed-certification) through the State, also - that's set of... the fibulator, that you're trying to use a fibulator in case someone goes down with a heart attack or stroke. This is the House-keepers - they have a Non-Game Card which they need to work in the casinos. Even though they're not working in the Gaming Area, they still need a Non-Gaming Card. But for security, you need to have a Gaming Card.

Bill Still: I guess Tucker just figured that a Union Rep wouldn't come on TV and flat-out lie on tape.

MORE ON THE VID...

[Tintin]

Fifteen-year Veteran Las Vegas Security Guard says "Its a Big Fat Lie!"


Vegas Security Guard Says
“It’s a Big Fat Lie”, 1871
(Oct 29, 2017)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-n4u35lknXw/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/gBy2LFTGIpQ?t=2m44s)

WH Petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/peti... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=gBy2LFTGIpQ&event=video_description&redir_token=jJiqGEeMgmuHKpkbzeUE0cIIHdl8MTUwOTQ0ODU2NkAxNTA5MzYyMTY2&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpetitions.whitehouse.gov%2Fpetition%2Finvestigate-october-1st-mass-shooting-las-vegas)

Bill Still: So here's a guy who was called a 'hero' because he was evacuating people from rooms, while bleeding, after he was shot. Remember in version 1 of the story, it was police officers who 'insisted' that he go to the hospital. But then, Tucker Carlson, the day after the shooting, called all the Quick Cares in the city & they reported that Campos had not been there!

So how do they change the story now?
Now, they don't send him to the clinic until eleven days after he was shot?
So, what did he do? Put a turnique on his thigh, and then drive down to Mexico to deposit some money in a safe place?



Tucker Carlson: ...And who's 'We'? Who was taking him?

Union Rep: When we left the room, we were having a meeting with... uh... uh... three upper-level MGM management people. And when we left the room that we were in... uhmmm... our left the living room, it was Mr. Campos, one other security officer - a fellow officer - a fellow member of the union - and there was a corporate security officer.

Tucker: Yeah... Of course there was - MGM's in charge, clearly.


Bill Still: Now we hear the phone interview I did with a real Las Vegas casino security guard...

Hi Jason.

Jason: Hi, how's it go?

Bill Still: Well, this is a very interesting little nugget of information that you're adding into the pie, here...

Jason: Yeah, mmm...mmm... When I seen that interview with Tucker Carlson, that Union Rep just flat-out lied... about having certain license that Jesus Campos needed. You have to have a Sheriff's Card that is given out by the Metropolitan Police Department - that's a must to be... to work in a casino.

And when Tucker asked him about a special license, he flat-out said that Jesus Campos didn't need a Gaming Card, which is a lie. If you're going to be working around any type of slot machines, you needed a Gaming Card to Metropolitan Police Department. And if you are near bars, and you're working near the bars, you need an Alcohol Alertness Card that issued by the State.

So, he's suppose to have these two licenses, plus he's suppose to have his CPR/AED Certification (http://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/aed/aed-training/aed-certification) through the State, also - that's set of... the fibulator, that you're trying to use a fibulator in case someone goes down with a heart attack or stroke. This is the House-keepers - they have a Non-Game Card which they need to work in the casinos. Even though they're not working in the Gaming Area, they still need a Non-Gaming Card. But for security, you need to have a Gaming Card.

Bill Still: I guess Tucker just figured that a Union Rep wouldn't come on TV and flat-out lie on tape.

MORE ON THE VID...


Very important expose and thanks for sharing. At around 15:27 here 'Kevin' states that he saw numbers of vans (later on hearses transporting bodies to the airport/s, presumably after being autopsied) clearing bodies up on the site up to three days later.

"...in Vegas for 20 years .....I've never seen something this bad."

That's powerful eyewitness testimony that.

[Hervé]

[...]
... (later on hearses transporting bodies to the airport/s, presumably after being autopsied) clearing bodies up on the site up to three days later.
[...]
Take a good look at the "Davis" van... that's a funeral homes (hearse) vehicle:


http://www.mnb.mn/uploads/201710/photos/9e009a6d1546805280e250d0178f2210_123705.jpg
High rez here: http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/upl...picture-35.jpg (http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/picture-35.jpg)

(http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/picture-35.jpg)

The Coroner's vehicle (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1187906&viewfull=1#post1187906) is the one to the right.

[Tintin]

[...]
... (later on hearses transporting bodies to the airport/s, presumably after being autopsied) clearing bodies up on the site up to three days later.
[...]
Take a good look at the "Davis" van... that's a funeral homes (hearse) vehicle:


http://www.mnb.mn/uploads/201710/photos/9e009a6d1546805280e250d0178f2210_123705.jpg
High rez here: http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/upl...picture-35.jpg (http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/picture-35.jpg)

(http://www.chaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/picture-35.jpg)

The Coroner's vehicle (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1187906&viewfull=1#post1187906) is the one to the right.


Ah, thanks Herve. Must be a linguistic twist. Here in Britain a 'hearse' is the vehicle that transports a body to a funeral or crematorium. That is, a 'hearse' here, as it is understood, is not used to transport a corpse to a morgue. I didn't realise that a 'hearse' in the US fulfilled a different role. You learn something new everyday.

[Cidersomerset]

David Knight Info Wars looks at similarities and agendas of these false flag events...
In the Underwear bombers case it was to roll out airport body scanners and this
could be the case in Vegas as well to place the scanners in hotels more of a financial
scam than security necessity as they are looking to expand the body scanner
market. This has been discussed in other vids and I don't think this is the primary
reason for the shooting , but could be a incidental effect of it that may have been
foreseen as suggested. Still interesting insight into the Underwear bomber.

Vegas Is Underwear Bomber 2.0: Defusing The False Flag

FEVQKyZeOuA

Published on 30 Oct 2017
Kurt Haskell was on the 2009 Christmas Day flight where the “Underwear Bomber” set
himself on fire trying to light a “bomb” without a detonator. Kurt lays out the amazing
details of this false flag to justify body scanners and the parallels to the Vegas shooting.

[TrumanCash]

Couple Who Witnessed Las Vegas Shooting Killed in Car Explosion (http://www.nnettle.com/news/3037-couple-who-witnessed-las-vegas-shooting-killed-in-car-explosion)
Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/news/3037-couple-who-witnessed-las-vegas-shooting-killed-in-car-explosion
© Neon Nettle

Couple with Henderson ties die in crash after surviving Las Vegas shooting (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/)
By Rio Lacanlale Las Vegas Review-Journal
October 27, 2017 - 9:13 pm

New Las Vegas Shooting Nels & Teresa Eyewitness/Survivors Testimony 2017 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2IFEnOPFY)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2IFEnOPFY

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Couple Who Witnessed Las Vegas Shooting Killed in Car Explosion (http://www.nnettle.com/news/3037-couple-who-witnessed-las-vegas-shooting-killed-in-car-explosion)
Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/news/3037-couple-who-witnessed-las-vegas-shooting-killed-in-car-explosion
© Neon Nettle

Couple with Henderson ties die in crash after surviving Las Vegas shooting (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/)
By Rio Lacanlale Las Vegas Review-Journal
October 27, 2017 - 9:13 pm


If this was not 'just' an accident, and was done deliberately to silence them, it's despicable. Beyond words.

[TargeT]

their testimony seemed to support the offical narrative strongly; seems less likely that it was deliberate because of that... though who knows?

[Ba-ba-Ra]

their testimony seemed to support the offical narrative strongly; seems less likely that it was deliberate because of that... though who knows?

I thought the same thing - UNTIL I looked at the piture of the couple in the newspaper and compared it to the couple in the video. They don't look like the same people, especially the woman.

So, are the ones in the video actors parroting the official narrative? I don't know, what do you all think.

[Tintin]

What to make of this following piece of footage suggesting somebody moving on top of what is believed to be a RV in the concert area? The title is super suggestive of course and one can't leap to any conclusions. My own jury is deliberating at this point, but, may be worth a look and a ponder. May not be beyond the realms of possibility given the confusion reigning in those moments, but I would have thought highly risky all the same. Still.........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-FO6kNkmW8

[TargeT]

their testimony seemed to support the offical narrative strongly; seems less likely that it was deliberate because of that... though who knows?
I thought the same thing - UNTIL I looked at the piture of the couple in the newspaper and compared it to the couple in the video. They don't look like the same people, especially the woman.
.

I'd bet that picture is close to 10 years old.. these are the same people, just older; funny though, for me the guy looked less likely of the two

[waves]

their testimony seemed to support the offical narrative strongly; seems less likely that it was deliberate because of that... though who knows?

I thought the same thing - UNTIL I looked at the piture of the couple in the newspaper and compared it to the couple in the video. They don't look like the same people, especially the woman.

So, are the ones in the video actors parroting the official narrative? I don't know, what do you all think.

It's always a big red flag to me when lame annoying music has been added and I find it to be a pretty good indicator of over-control/manipulation. Not sure if the producers are too stupid see how corny it is, or they know that more people than I'm aware of fall for the extra corniness.

[Harley]

Please go to YouTube and read the Uploader's Pinned Comment in the comments below the video:


New Las Vegas Shooting Nels & Teresa Eyewitness/Survivors Testimony 2017 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2IFEnOPFY)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2IFEnOPFY

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Pinned by KAREN TRUTHER GIRL
KAREN TRUTHER GIRL
1 day ago

Jfyi these people are not the ones who died in the car wreck, different names and state. Here is the news article about the couple who died. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/

Note: The link contained within the quote has been truncated too much and as a result only points to the Review-Journal's Home Page. Here is the full link:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/

[Bill Ryan]

Pinned by KAREN TRUTHER GIRL

1 day ago

Jfyi these people are not the ones who died in the car wreck, different names and state. Here is the news article about the couple who died. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/

Yes. For the record, this was sent to me via e-mail by an Avalon visitor (not a member):

~~~



Hi Bill,
I noticed this on page 43 re: Las Vegas shooting, the "couple that died in the crash".
There seem to be 2 different couples:


Nels and Teresa Bowen
Dennis and Lorraine Carver

I just wondered if they should be posted as one.

[TargeT]

I'd bet that picture is close to 10 years old.. these are the same people, just older; funny though, for me the guy looked less likely of the two

Welp, I'm 100% wrong..

what did the dead eyewitnesses have to say?

[Cidersomerset]

In a earlier post there was a vid with lights in the air not sure if anything to do with
this....Alex is a bit annoying as he is in interruption mode as he is getting a bit over
excited he speculates possible gun deal gone wrong, fast & furious ?

False Flags And Drills: What They Aren't Telling You About Vegas

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Published on 31 Oct 2017
Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio to break down new information
regarding the Las Vegas shooting on October 1st: helicopters, airplanes, and
flight space records tell it all.


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No sure if this has already been posted ? but is what they are talking about in vid above..

https://www.intellihub.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/logo-red.png

Flight records indicate LVMPD helicopter’s transponder went dark after picking up
mercenaries armed with M-239 SAW-like machine guns on the night of the
massacre

By Shepard Ambellas -
October 27, 2017

FAA logs and aircraft transponder data show that an LVMPD helicopter may have
gone rogue on the night of the massacre

(INTELLIHUB) — Flight records obtained by Intellihub founder and editor-in-chief
Shepard Ambellas indicate that the transponder on an LVMPD aircraft went dark
after several heavily armed men boarded the chopper.

The following timeline details the whereabouts of LVMPD helicopter “N911WY”
between the hours of 10:25 p.m. and 11:35 p.m., Oct. 1, 2017.

*The data was captured in UTC time (i.e. 10 p.m. local time is 05:00 UTC on Oct.
2, 11 p.m. is 06:00 UTC on Oct. 2)

10:05 p.m. – Stephen Paddock’s first volley of fully-automatic gunfire, reportedly
starts (see the unofficial timeline for more details.)

10:25 p.m. – An LVMPD MD 530F helicopter (#N911WY) arrives in the vicinity of
the Luxor from North Las Vegas.

read more....Follow time line on

https://www.intellihub.com/flight-records-lvmpd-helicopters-transponder-went-dark/

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vids posted on article...
https://www.intellihub.com/flight-records-lvmpd-helicopters-transponder-went-dark/

[Cidersomerset]

Part 2.....Heavy stuff from Zak , Shepherd and Alex , Saudi based US mercenary
firm , $42 million put options , George Soros fund management group and more...

https://www.ets-riskmanagement.com/ets-dev/assets/image/ETS_logo_rgb_small.jpg
https://www.ets-riskmanagement.com/

During Vegas Massacre, Helicopters Went Dark

Nizyj2GQyDw
Published on 31 Oct 2017
Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio explain exactly how his helicopter theory
works with the Las Vegas Massacre narrative and provides the proof behind his game-changing claims.

[Cidersomerset]

Part 3 ......multiple teams involved....first 4 mins from end of vid above then new info...

BREAKING INTEL: Saudi Arabia Staged Vegas, Planning New Attacks

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Published on 31 Oct 2017


Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio to dissect breaking
intelligence from one an Infowars longtime caller.

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Palace intrigue Saudi style , what Zak tells Alex in vid above about Vegas may not
be as far fetched as it seems...


Saudi Arabia's missing princes - BBC Newsnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2KYQWPUbG4
Published on 15 Aug 2017
Saudi Arabia - a key ally of the UK and America - has been ruled as an absolute
monarchy since its foundation. Any opposition in the country is often brutally
oppressed. BBC Arabic has been investigating allegations the Saudi monarchy has
operated a system of illegal abduction and capture of dissident princes who have
criticised the government, including evidence of princes kidnapped in Europe and
forced back to Saudi Arabia, where they've not been heard from since. Reda El
Mawy reports.Newsnight is the BBC's flagship news and current affairs TV
programme - with analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.
Website: www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight

[James Newell]

The official story of one gunman is a coverup.
Here is a site with 'some' of the data: https://www.intellihub.com/vegas-flight-records-reveal-air-assault-extraction-possible/

[The Moss Trooper]

30 FBI agents check-in to Mandalay Bay 2 days before shooting?

http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zu3.html (Hidden Site Page)

Jim Stone has this: SOMEONE AT INTEL HUB WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT 30 OF THESE AGENTS CHECKED INTO THE MANDALAY BAY TO DO THE SHOOTING.


This is legit and is getting wiped everywhere. And all I can say is it won't be wiped here, because I have no ads to lose, and this server is in a country where no one will care.

UPDATE: Now known: just like on 911, with Fema showing up a day early, the Las Vegas shooting was preceeded by 30 OF THE FBI AGENTS ON THIS LIST CHECKING INTO THE MANDALAY BAY 2 DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING, to coordinate the shooting and keep the subsequent reporting cinched down to a phony monologue. This was revealed by intel Hub, and the fat boy is now doing a gran mal rant about it over at Infowars. Maybe he had crap on Vegas at first, but it seems he's pulling for all of us now.
A nice solid DOXX of a totally corrupt agency was just what the doctor ordered! It made finding out what really happened in Vegas possible - 30 of these bastards were at the Mandalay for the shooting. FIGURE THE ODDS.

This could lead to an extremely dangerous situation, because the shadow state is now cornered, and their solution could well be another 9-11.

UPDATE: 4chan was completely taken offline when this got posted to make sure it was bleached. It is legit folks!

Unlike 4chan, I could care less about the will of traitors to this nation, and I'd have this posted with photographs of each agent if that could be done. It is time to say enough is enough, and hunt these bastards down. So says the 590 murdered and injured in Vegas (and the now building list of people who are victims of a subsequent clean up!) The FBI can take their phoney Russia investigation and projectile vomit it up Hillary's *ss. The feel good wore off on that fake piece of work the second the first hit was directed at Manafort. That right there proved Hillary will be off her crutches soon.



For the list of FBI agents: http://www.anotherjsserver.com/doxxed.html

[Tintin]

Part 2.....Heavy stuff from Zak , Shepherd and Alex , Saudi based US mercenary
firm , $42 million put options , George Soros fund management group and more...

https://www.ets-riskmanagement.com/ets-dev/assets/image/ETS_logo_rgb_small.jpg
https://www.ets-riskmanagement.com/

During Vegas Massacre, Helicopters Went Dark

Nizyj2GQyDw
Published on 31 Oct 2017
Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio explain exactly how his helicopter theory
works with the Las Vegas Massacre narrative and provides the proof behind his game-changing claims.

I'd meant to respond to Post #851, but, it may not matter too much. TQ

Really really interesting and thanks for posting this Cider.

I'd come across this radar footage before, pretty soon after it had emerged online, and had sat and watched it wondering aloud: "Well, what am I supposed to be making of this?" There was no audio attached to it and, thankfully, now, Shepard has provided some excellent observations that have helped to plug a gap for me and would now serve as the audio narrative. Brilliant.

It really has helped to make more sense of certain events. How to extract the perpetrators was a question that had lingered, and, given the proximity of McCarran Airport to the 'scene' it would certainly have had to feature somewhere, almost certainly as some sort of getaway option.

Mind you if you are in a 'bird' you could pretty much get out any which way under sufficient cover. Of particular intrigue is the footage of the armed 'unit' (?) captured as well. :happythumbsup: Gold stars all round on this.

[Tintin]

30 FBI agents check-in to Mandalay Bay 2 days before shooting?

http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zu3.html (Hidden Site Page)

Jim Stone has this: SOMEONE AT INTEL HUB WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT 30 OF THESE AGENTS CHECKED INTO THE MANDALAY BAY TO DO THE SHOOTING.


This is legit and is getting wiped everywhere. And all I can say is it won't be wiped here, because I have no ads to lose, and this server is in a country where no one will care.

UPDATE: Now known: just like on 911, with Fema showing up a day early, the Las Vegas shooting was preceeded by 30 OF THE FBI AGENTS ON THIS LIST CHECKING INTO THE MANDALAY BAY 2 DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING, to coordinate the shooting and keep the subsequent reporting cinched down to a phony monologue. This was revealed by intel Hub, and the fat boy is now doing a gran mal rant about it over at Infowars. Maybe he had crap on Vegas at first, but it seems he's pulling for all of us now.
A nice solid DOXX of a totally corrupt agency was just what the doctor ordered! It made finding out what really happened in Vegas possible - 30 of these bastards were at the Mandalay for the shooting. FIGURE THE ODDS.

This could lead to an extremely dangerous situation, because the shadow state is now cornered, and their solution could well be another 9-11.

UPDATE: 4chan was completely taken offline when this got posted to make sure it was bleached. It is legit folks!

Unlike 4chan, I could care less about the will of traitors to this nation, and I'd have this posted with photographs of each agent if that could be done. It is time to say enough is enough, and hunt these bastards down. So says the 590 murdered and injured in Vegas (and the now building list of people who are victims of a subsequent clean up!) The FBI can take their phoney Russia investigation and projectile vomit it up Hillary's *ss. The feel good wore off on that fake piece of work the second the first hit was directed at Manafort. That right there proved Hillary will be off her crutches soon.



For the list of FBI agents: http://www.anotherjsserver.com/doxxed.html

Thanks. And via the links provided there is a very helpful resource of photographic and video footage, much of which has already surfaced here on the thread but some of which that may not have. (I haven't had the opportunity to fine-toothed comb through it yet.).

A pretty handy resource: https://mega.nz/#F!U7YhyRCI!Vpt7PIO9nSbXjpuge2vd5g

[WTHTLight]

http://www.abeldanger.org/kelly-124-paddocks-serco-junket-bookie-cai-salomon-demon-bridge-wilburs-8a-death-pool-greeks/
I have to say this is one of the most difficult to read and to follow explanations I have read but it is a great read for the research minded person. The source of this information is an insiders insider but man is it insane to believe that this is really what is going on. READER BEWARE....lol!
my 2 cents
Rehabdoc

[turiya]

David Hawkins interview with more on SERCO & the Islamic, pedophile, gambling connection...


Paddock, SERCO, 911 and Death Pool Betting An In-Depth
Conversation with Abel Danger's David Hawkins
(Streamed live 20 hours ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGem5m9Sr6g

Published 21 hours ago

Serco is the biggest company you never heard of (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNLMtgI7hU&t=2s). Are they somehow connected to Stephen Paddock? Did this multinational conglomerate play a role in the Las Vegas massacre of October 1? Are there shadowy groups of wealthy elites who finance assassinations through evil "death pool" betting syndicates? Abel Danger's David Hawkins takes us deeper into the rabbit hole.


PARTIAL TRANSCRIPTION @ ~16:41:


David Hawkins: Backing up to your question about Stephen Paddock & SERCO => So, SERCO had a very interesting birth in 1929 when it was called RCAGB-1929 - Radio Corporation of America - a wholly & subsidiary of Radio Corp of America in New York set up by David Sarnoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sarnoff).

Now David Sarnoff is an interesting guy because he was the founder of this organization, which is described back in the 1920's as a radio patent monopoly company. And allegedly, David Sarnoff was on the Marconi Wireless Telegraph System when the Titanic got an instruction to change course 20 minutes before it hit the iceberg. And had it not received those instructions, it would have missed the iceberg. So we need to ask ourselves => Who was on the other side of the iceberg? And apparently, it was called the Steam Ship Mount Temple (SS Mount Temple) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Mount_Temple) that was equipped with the Marconi Telegraph System that appears to have pulled the Titanic onto the iceberg where it sank & took down Jacob Astor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV) and various other wealthy illuminaries.

So going back to what's going on here... I believe the proper title for Stephen Paddock, from the gaming industry, is that he's a promoter of what are known as "VIP Junket Rooms (https://www.google.com/search?ei=rif7WeL6BtCmjwPVzrvQCQ&q=%22VIP+Junket+Rooms%22&oq=%22VIP+Junket+Rooms%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1l2.60575.63991.0.64350.2.2.0.0.0.0.1 64.314.0j2.2.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.1.163....0.kFtTdCWVVBw)". VIP stands for Very Important Person, and Junket Rooms - you get into a Junket Room, for example at the Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, or the MGM Grand Hotel in Macau, provided that have passed certain initiation tests. And unfortunately, the people who get into those rooms, they go to some kind of initiation ceremony where their face, as they perform some sexually deviant act possibly with a member of the same sex or a child, is registered on SERCO's Demon Face Recognition "Demon Face Recognition" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULZYtVTWsw) software. Which can then track these human beings & actually be used for photoshopping to put the image - and we're talking about Virtual Reality, I guess now - you can create a virtual reality effect, where a person that is innocent of any sexual relations with a child is framed in a room, which was previously occupied by a pedophile, where the child was raped & killed. So, you can create virtual identities on the internet & inject them into this amazing technology, I believe, developed during the Clinton administration called the Federal Bridge Certification Authority Network (https://www.google.com/search?ei=kSz7Web6JJj2jwOjmqaIDA&q=%22Federal+Bridge+Certification+Authority+Networ k%22&oq=%22Federal+Bridge+Certification+Authority+Netwo rk%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...191185.192736.0.193711.3.3.0.0.0.0.166.454. 0j3.3.0....0...1.2.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.oNSf7rroS6s). This is computer network, actually based on public key infrastructure which was unfortunately for America was invented in the United Kingdom at Government Communications Headquarters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Communications_Headquarters) and perfected during the 70's, but kept under wraps. And developed in parallel with another amazing piece of technology which is the "Cesuim Fountain Clock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIST-F1)", which is the basis for all GPS tracking today. And that was invented - the National Physical Laboratory (United Kingdom) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Physical_Laboratory_(United_Kingdom)) in Teddington. And they used the GPS clock, or the Cesium Founder Clock, "Packet switching" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_switching).

So, you can inject fake news, crisis actors & digital identities into the Federal Bridge (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1389128601002444) and create any - I think they use "Script Kitties" - any material for Script Kitties to read and say, "We've just been subjected by Stephen Paddock to a lunatic attack on the Harvest Festival. He's killed 59 people." And then we dig a little deeper & we find out sedentary individual - he's 64 years-old - and he's supposed to have carried up 10,000 rounds of ammunition => high-grade heavy caliber ammunition & 23 semi-automatic guns modified with bump stocks, that allowed him, or whoever it was at the other end holding the trigger, to fire continuously, multiple round for 9 minutes.

Then the role of SERCO....
So Serco in 1988 (See History of Serco Inc. (https://www.serco-na.com/about/history), there was a management buy-out of RCAGB-1929, which had been given the contract to provide British citizens with a 4 minute warning of an inter-continental ballistic missile attack. Now I am a little nervous when you hand out to a private company the authority to warn the citizens of an incoming intercontinental ballistic missile attack, because what happens when they inform their friends, but don't tell their enemies - it means to say, you wipe out the peasants & you create a well-protected elite that can go to the nearest high-rise hotel building, down into the basement, and stand a pretty good chance of surviving a direct missile attack on New York or Washington (DC). So then, we need to look at Serco, and ask ourselves => Could it be operating as an online Bookie, or Bookmaker, for these VIP Junket Rooms - sponsored or promoted by people like the late - Stephen Paddock?

Because the way Stephen Paddock appears to have made his money is to approach MGM, Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino, or the MGM Grand in Macau, or a room on one of these luxury cruise ships. Apparently, he went on 19 cruise ships with his girl friend. He fetched-up in Dubai, where I used to live - where the Arabs are notorious gamblers - you know, they gamble on camel racing. Incidentally, they use little boys abducted from Bangladesh for camel racing jockey-boys. But of course, they become sexual instruments for pleasure for these scumbags. And I believe, various senators were approached, including Senator Clinton & Senator Obama - when he was a senator - to see if they could drop the charges against one of the sheiks on the grounds of diplomatic immunity... And the Department of Justice gave them immunity from any prosecution for the Jock-Boy scandal.

So, there's deep & profound blackmail rings operating in the gaming industry, in my opinion. And the people are only allowed into these Junket Rooms, where serious betting takes place, if they - there's a phrase in England for the espionage industry - "Do you have the wood on someone?"

That is to say, "Will they swing on a wooden gallows if you reveal what you know about them?" Because then you control them for the rest of their lives.

Much more within this video...

[Bill Ryan]

False Flags And Drills: What They Aren't Telling You About Vegas

VRTMHh3xvu0Published on 31 Oct 2017
Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio to break down new information
regarding the Las Vegas shooting on October 1st: helicopters, airplanes, and
flight space records tell it all.

Yes, this is strong, important information.

See this, also, from Jake Morphonios, published the day before yesterday: the first 3 minutes. It's possible that Shepard Ambellas was put on to this by Jake M. (But it doesn't really matter!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny0KUMyUK8U

[Cidersomerset]

This is a interesting interview and can cover all aspects of CIA ,FBI deep cover
operations. Not all would be as extreme as this and its been the subject of spy
novels/movies especially from the cold war onwards and is where the origins of the
Manchurian Candidate , Ipcress Files ,James Bond and allthe others that have been
mixed with fact and fiction. Just like Ufology and other topics considered by the CIA
as conspiracy theories.

One thing Tamer El Noury said apart from a complete cosmetic make over , he
talks about creating a persona of the subject they are going to do and call it
a 'Legend'.

There is a TV series starring Sean Bean which is all about this and is very good with
a topical twist at the end of season 2. Which I will not spoil, but it is easy to look
up. The point is as I have said science fiction and fact is blurred, so are a lot of
other subjects covered up tainted by the media/intel/holly wood so all these topics
we cover like satanic, child abuse , all crimes , corruptions are hidden in plain sight
on our screens as we all know in the alternate community.

So when sceptics are given air time to deny all these topics as conspiracies , I do
wonder if some people are so brainwashed to believe everything the mainstream
says even though the opposite is in front of their nose or they only have
on 'shills'....

Anyway I know I'm preaching to the converted but someone maybe looking in.....

"I HATE Every One of Them!" Undercover FBI Agent
REVEALS All to Tucker in Bombshell Interview

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Published on 28 Oct 2017
Tucker Carlson interviews undercover FBI agent Tamer El Noury.


Legends Official Trailer HD (2014) - Sean Bean, Ali Larter, Tina Majorino

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Published on 20 Jun 2014
Legends 2014 Official Trailer HD

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Elite Pedophiles “Carve Up The World Like A Sunday Roast”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uj6hR2qLRs
Published on 31 Oct 2017
Kevin Spacey: King of Davos, the man “everyone knew” to stay away from, and the
guy who reenacted the Cremation of Care ceremony from Bohemian Grove on
House of Cards as he bragged the men there “carve up the world like a Sunday
roast”. Putin was right when he said the West is ruled by elite, Satan-worshipping
pedophiles.

===================================================


Classic cold war spy movie I've watched several times its amazing how the world
worked without all this big broth tech. Though they still managed it, mind control etc...

The Ipcress File Crime Thriller 1965 Michael Caine, Nigel Green & Guy Doleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIQRvqyX-1U
Published on 23 Oct 2017
In London, a counter espionage agent deals with his own bureaucracy while
investigating the kidnapping and brainwashing of British scientists.

[Bill Ryan]

Part 3 ......multiple teams involved....first 4 mins from end of vid above then new info...

BREAKING INTEL: Saudi Arabia Staged Vegas, Planning New Attacks

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:bump:

This is important. Alex has a number of times said that he has detailed information about the Las Vegas incidents that he's not permitted to reveal yet, because of legally binding NDAs with his sources.

When Zak called in, Alex got quite excited and pretty much confirmed that this was also the information that he himself had been obliged to sit on.

Alex invited Zak there and then on to the show for a full hour today, 1 November, but immediately after this call (in the video above ^^ ) Zak, who is former military intelligence, was taken aside and prohibited from saying any more. That alone should prompt us to pay very close attention here.

Alex has also announced that this Saturday (4 November) Infowars will be broadcasting all day (https://www.infowars.com/nov-4th-it-begins/),* continuously from 1 pm to 8 pm, with reporters in a number of major cities. Everything suggests that he knows a lot about what may be planned to occur.

* Edit to add: —> here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHfvYv13tIU

[Harley]

Thanks Bill.

I'm (not) looking forward to it.

[James Newell]

It should be very interesting times in the good ole USA this week, not to mention there is a "DOD training exercise" on telecommunications this week. False flag week anyone?

http://www.arrl.org/news/communications-interoperability-training-with-amateur-radio-community-set
Communications Interoperability Training with Amateur Radio Community Set
10/24/2017

Elements of the US Department of Defense (DOD) will conduct a “communications interoperability” training exercise November 4-6, once again simulating a “very bad day” scenario. Amateur Radio and MARS organizations will take part.



“This exercise will begin with a notional massive coronal mass ejection event which will impact the national power grid as well as all forms of traditional communication, including landline telephone, cellphone, satellite, and Internet connectivity,” Army MARS Program Manager Paul English, WD8DBY, explained in an announcement.



During the exercise, a designated DOD Headquarters entity will request county-by-county status reports for the 3,143 US counties and county equivalents, in order to gain situational awareness and to determine the extent of impact of the scenario. Army and Air Force MARS organizations will work in conjunction with the Amateur Radio community, primarily on the 60-meter interoperability channels as well as on HF NVIS frequencies and local VHF and UHF, non-Internet linked Amateur Radio repeaters.



Again this year, a military station on the east coast and the Fort Huachuca, Arizona, HF station will conduct a high-power broadcast on 60-meter channel 1 (5330.5 kHz) on Saturday from 0300 to 0315 UTC. New this year will be an informational broadcast on Sunday, on 13,483.5 kHz USB from 1600 to 1615 UTC. Amateur Radio operators should monitor these broadcasts for more information about the exercise and how they can participate in this communications exercise, English said.



“We want to continue building on the outstanding cooperative working relationship with the ARRL and the Amateur Radio community,” English said. “We want to expand the use of the 60-meter interop channels between the military and amateur community for emergency communications, and we hope the Amateur Radio community will give us some good feedback on the use of both the 5-MHz interop and the new 13-MHz broadcast channels as a means of information dissemination during a very bad day scenario.

[turiya]

The Hagmann Report
with David Hawkins
(10-30-2017)

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BSdKlK0ICzo/0.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/2lEvh1x5bNo?t=37m13s)

Stephen Paddack @ 37m13s: https://youtu.be/2lEvh1x5bNo?t=37m13s

TRANSCRIPTION

Doug Hagmann: If I can impose upon you... And I know we're jumping around here.... You mentioned Stephen Paddock... I just have to say, I was on a radio program today, KAFQ - out of Tusla, Oklahoma - talking about that Las Vegas situation - how everything kind of just seemed to drop off. What do you know? I mean, what do you, Mr David Hawking, either through reason, measured speculation, or ... based on your research - Paddock, Vegas... What the heck... You want to tell me what that was all about?

David Hawkins: Yeah, sure. I believe that Stephen Paddock was recruited, hired & deployed by Kristine Marcy (https://www.google.com/search?ei=dI_6Wd3PIcmqjQPwrJ-YBg&q=Kristine+Marcy+WIKIPEDIA&oq=Kristine+Marcy+WIKIPEDIA&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30k1.54125.55367.0.55763.5.5.0.0.0.0. 159.758.0j5.5.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.756....0._w-hwbkuLds) - Field McConnell's Sister - who was a super grade in the Office of Personnel Management in 1978. And this woman is an extraordinary power and dangerous woman. I think she's a psychopath, but she's beyond that.

She founded, as a child of (garbled) mem berg... what is known as.... which is a group of bureaucrats. I think now, that they're about 79,000 strong. ... Let me just back up...

When I was at university in my third year, I did Industrial Management & the professor there, he gave us a talk about what we might face as managers in industry. And he said, "When you go out into the world, gentlemen...", I think there was very few women in the faculty at that particular time... He said, "You're going to face three ideologies. And one is more dangerous than the other two." So, our attention was piqued, if you will, and he said, "There's Capitalism & there's Communism & there is Bureaucracy."

And everything, ever since, gentlemen, that I have done or understood is I realized that bureaucracy is extraordinarily dangerous, because it has no empathy, there's no compassion there, it just applies a process. If Hitler tells the bureaucrats to ship x-thousand Jews into the gas chambers, they're going to do it - there's no sympathy. And now, Communist & Capitalists... you know, you look at the group - capitalism - maybe gun share holders & successful business people, and as far as communism is concerned, well they can become slaves & serfs. But bureaucracy is very dangerous.

So when this woman, in 1978, appears to have recruited Stephen Paddock, she put him through as an auditor of the IRS. Well, that gave him a huge amount of power & insights into how to track people, and ultimately, if they're hiding taxes, get them arrested and lock 'em up..., see.. And of course, Al Capone was taken in, as I understand it, on a tax cheating issue. And then, with the Defense contractor audit agency, he would know how to deploy these 80 protege programs ..... underneath the big Defense contractors, like Raytheon, Boeing & Lockheed Martin.

For example on 911, what I think happened, SERCO - this outsourcing company from the UK - it flicked what is known as the 'red switch'. And there's a technology called the "Defense Red Switch Network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Red_Switch_Network)", where the terminal - you can recognize it on pictures in 2009 on Obama's desk - and shortly afterward, is the next picture is the IST-2 terminal, which would normally connect the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff & the Flag Officers in the Army, Navy, Air Force & Marine Corp, with the President of the United States, the Commander & Chief - that phone has been taken away. And its been replaced by an Alcatel Lucent phone made by a French company, and that, gentlemen, is not secure.

So sometime in the early years of the Obama administration, he either allowed, or was tricked, or persuaded, into detaching himself from the National Command Authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority). And, having the responsibility of the Commander & Chief transferred to an organization, which I believe, is in the control of SERCO. So, the implications of this are huge, because this could have been done by expert economist, or business administrator, like Stephen Paddock, because he knows intimately how the IRS, the Defense contractor, audit agency & the United States Post Office operate. And he, or his friends, could launch what in espionage terms is called a Man-in-the-Middle Attack (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack) on the United States National Command Authority.

So when he [Paddock] shows up at the Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino... here's what I think happened... He booked, or he had his room booked for him - it was a double room. The bellhops in the hotel were persuaded to carry up 10,000 rounds of ammunition. And I think 23 semi-automatic guns that had bump stock modifications - so they could actually fire as automatics. And I think very early on in the game, possibly the day before, he was murdered.

But now they had a snipers nest to die for inside those two rooms, with cameras looking down the hallway... And when this security guy called Campos came down the hallway, they fired 200 bullets through the door. Well, this is heavy-duty ammunition. And I'm told by experts, there wouldn't be much left of the door. It didn't kill Campos, in fact, he was hit in the leg. Immediately, he presumably tries to call the cavalry.

And inside the hotel there are already Las Vegas Police & armed security from the hotel. And I think they didn't show up till about 75 minutes later. By which time, I would guess, someone perhaps dressed as hotel security inside the room, shot up the people in the Harvest Festival. Apparently, there was 9 minutes of continuous firing to kill the people there.

And then, as far as I know, they could have gone down the service elevator dressed as hotel security people & merged with the group that then raided the hotel room.

Doug Hagmann: Okay. Mr. Hawkins, let me ask you a question... To what end? What was the motive for everything that happened there? Let's take what you said, and that's as good an explanation as any that I've heard. What would be the motive?

David Hawkins: Yeah. Now, this is a fascinating issue because in order to do that, we need to go back & look at the big picture... J Edgar Hoover said, "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy that is so monstrous that he cannot believe that it exists."

David Rockefeller (bless him), I think he died after receiving his 7th heart transplant from his personal surgeons - the old bastard - really, he should had gone, I think, with the first. I think he died at 102. At a Bilderberg meeting he said, "The world is ready to move to a supernational goverment of world bankers & intellectual elite."

Here's the motive: I think there are people who, for whatever reason, have allowed themselves, or have been seduced by the idea the power & the wealth - they've sworn an oath of the most despicable nature, and have been photographed. And they're now in, say, a network of Greek-Life societies & Bohemian Grovest sector. They're rubbing shoulders with immensely wealthy people that are billionaires, but actually, they're all trapped, they all hate each other, but there's no where to appeal to.

Phil McConnell is a god-fearing gentleman. I think you two gentlemen are the same. I mean, it would be nice to think they could appeal to the indulgence or the forgiveness of God, and 'fess up. Because living as they do, I would think must be hell.

Doug Hagmann: Yeah... Unless you are a psychopath or sociopath by diagnosis - yeah, I would think.

David Hawkins: So, if I may just mention about some interesting members of the Greek-Life Societies. You see, George Bush Sr & Bill Clinton are both members of Phi Beta Kappa - which is a very prestigious honor society. But I believe Clinton got that membership in 1968, before going as a road scholar to Oxford. Well, he was kicked out of Oxford for ..... drug dealing. And his next stop was Moscow in 1969.

Bill Clinton, a Phi Beta Kappa member, sent the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, John Shalikashvili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shalikashvili) to Beijing in 1997 to give a talk the Peoples Liberation Army University in Beijing - and it may have been scrubbed - but the transcript of the address given by Shalikashvili to the communist general was at the end he said, "I have been instructed by my president to leave behind details of all America's weapons programs.

So, I am saying... when this guy got back, why didn't they line up Bill Clinton & Shalikashvili up against a wall & shoot them? Because the Chinese have made huge progress through stealing American weapons secrets... Well, they didn't even have to steal them because Clinton gave them away.

Doug Hagmann: Yeah, that's right. Morrell... among others... I remember that whole process back in the 90's. Okay... wow!

David Hawkins: So, I think the motive is to move to a super-national government of... world bankers - that's a very interesting term. SERCO, which is a company I sort of introduced earlier... It has a number of very interesting shareholders, including major banks & a few countries, and some very interesting pension funds.

Now SERCO had a meeting of shareholders on the 47th floor of the North Tower on the morning of 911, which must have been an electrifying meeting, given what was about to happen. But those shareholders would have included the representatives from the government of Saudi Arabia, the government of the United Kingdom, the government of Singapore. Well, if as is alleged, Saudi Arabia was behind the attack - I think they partially funded it, but fully not understanding what they were doing - it would have been interesting for the FBI, under Robert Meuller, at the time, to haul all the representatives of SERCO of that shareholders meeting on the 47th floor.

Now other shareholders include Goldman Sachs, and nine Global Custodians - banks like JP Morgan, Hong Kong & Shanghai Bank Corp & so on... with $81 trillion of assets under management. And then the two pension funds are very interesting, because the pension funds included the Teachers Insurance Annuity Association, which presumably would pay retirement benefits to people like Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton - both were on faculty - Barrack Obama, who taught at the University of Chicago, Michelle Obama, who was on the board of University Hospitals in Chicago.

And, I may be stepping out of line, here, but I think I'm ready to go into court with Phil McConnell, and extend that claim - I don't think its an intellectual elite, I think its a pedophile elite.

Doug Hagmann: And, I agree with you on that. And I love how that... I don't know how you did it, but you just wrapped that up with a bow!
David Hawkins, we've reached our time together. Would you please come back? Would you consider coming back?

David Hawkins: It would be a pleasure & an honor.


David Hawkins interview with more on SERCO & the Islamic, pedophile, gambling connection...


Paddock, SERCO, 911 and Death Pool Betting An In-Depth
Conversation with Abel Danger's David Hawkins
(Streamed live 20 hours ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGem5m9Sr6g

Published 21 hours ago

Serco is the biggest company you never heard of (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNLMtgI7hU&t=2s). Are they somehow connected to Stephen Paddock? Did this multinational conglomerate play a role in the Las Vegas massacre of October 1? Are there shadowy groups of wealthy elites who finance assassinations through evil "death pool" betting syndicates? Abel Danger's David Hawkins takes us deeper into the rabbit hole.

LATE ADD----------

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPTION @ ~16:41:


David Hawkins: Backing up to your question about Stephen Paddock & SERCO => So, SERCO had a very interesting birth in 1929 when it was called RCAGB-1929 - Radio Corporation of America - a wholly & subsidiary of Radio Corp of America in New York set up by David Sarnoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sarnoff).

Now David Sarnoff is an interesting guy because he was the founder of this organization, which is described back in the 1920's as a radio patent monopoly company. And allegedly, David Sarnoff was on the Marconi Wireless Telegraph System when the Titanic got an instruction to change course 20 minutes before it hit the iceberg. And had it not received those instructions, it would have missed the iceberg. So we need to ask ourselves => Who was on the other side of the iceberg? And apparently, it was called the Steam Ship Mount Temple (SS Mount Temple) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Mount_Temple) that was equipped with the Marconi Telegraph System that appears to have pulled the Titanic onto the iceberg where it sank & took down Jacob Astor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV) and various other wealthy illuminaries.

So going back to what's going on here... I believe the proper title for Stephen Paddock, from the gaming industry, is that he's a promoter of what are known as "VIP Junket Rooms (https://www.google.com/search?ei=rif7WeL6BtCmjwPVzrvQCQ&q=%22VIP+Junket+Rooms%22&oq=%22VIP+Junket+Rooms%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1l2.60575.63991.0.64350.2.2.0.0.0.0.1 64.314.0j2.2.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.1.163....0.kFtTdCWVVBw)". VIP stands for Very Important Person, and Junket Rooms - you get into a Junket Room, for example at the Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, or the MGM Grand Hotel in Macau, provided that have passed certain initiation tests. And unfortunately, the people who get into those rooms, they go to some kind of initiation ceremony where their face, as they perform some sexually deviant act possibly with a member of the same sex or a child, is registered on SERCO's Demon Face Recognition "Demon Face Recognition" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULZYtVTWsw) software. Which can then track these human beings & actually be used for photoshopping to put the image - and we're talking about Virtual Reality, I guess now - you can create a virtual reality effect, where a person that is innocent of any sexual relations with a child is framed in a room, which was previously occupied by a pedophile, where the child was raped & killed. So, you can create virtual identities on the internet & inject them into this amazing technology, I believe, developed during the Clinton administration called the Federal Bridge Certification Authority Network (https://www.google.com/search?ei=kSz7Web6JJj2jwOjmqaIDA&q=%22Federal+Bridge+Certification+Authority+Networ k%22&oq=%22Federal+Bridge+Certification+Authority+Netwo rk%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...191185.192736.0.193711.3.3.0.0.0.0.166.454. 0j3.3.0....0...1.2.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.oNSf7rroS6s). This is computer network, actually based on public key infrastructure which was unfortunately for America was invented in the United Kingdom at Government Communications Headquarters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Communications_Headquarters) and perfected during the 70's, but kept under wraps. And developed in parallel with another amazing piece of technology which is the "Cesuim Fountain Clock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIST-F1)", which is the basis for all GPS tracking today. And that was invented - the National Physical Laboratory (United Kingdom) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Physical_Laboratory_(United_Kingdom)) in Teddington. And they used the GPS clock, or the Cesium Founder Clock, "Packet switching" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_switching).

So, you can inject fake news, crisis actors & digital identities into the Federal Bridge (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1389128601002444) and create any - I think they use "Script Kiddies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie)" - any material for Script Kiddies to read and say, "We've just been subjected by Stephen Paddock to a lunatic attack on the Harvest Festival. He's killed 59 people." And then we dig a little deeper & we find out sedentary individual - he's 64 years-old - and he's supposed to have carried up 10,000 rounds of ammunition => high-grade heavy caliber ammunition & 23 semi-automatic guns modified with bump stocks, that allowed him, or whoever it was at the other end holding the trigger, to fire continuously, multiple round for 9 minutes.

Then the role of SERCO....
So Serco in 1988 (See History of Serco Inc. (https://www.serco-na.com/about/history), there was a management buy-out of RCAGB-1929, which had been given the contract to provide British citizens with a 4 minute warning of an inter-continental ballistic missile attack. Now I am a little nervous when you hand out to a private company the authority to warn the citizens of an incoming intercontinental ballistic missile attack, because what happens when they inform their friends, but don't tell their enemies - it means to say, you wipe out the peasants & you create a well-protected elite that can go to the nearest high-rise hotel building, down into the basement, and stand a pretty good chance of surviving a direct missile attack on New York or Washington (DC). So then, we need to look at Serco, and ask ourselves => Could Serco Inc. be operating as an online Bookie, or Bookmaker, for these VIP Junket Rooms - sponsored or promoted by people like the late - Stephen Paddock?

Because the way Stephen Paddock appears to have made his money is to approach MGM, Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino, or the MGM Grand in Macau, or a room on one of these luxury cruise ships. Apparently, he went on 19 cruise ships with his girl friend. He fetched-up in Dubai, where I used to live - where the Arabs are notorious gamblers - you know, they gamble on camel racing. Incidentally, they use little boys abducted from Bangladesh for camel racing jockey-boys. But of course, they become sexual instruments for pleasure for these scumbags. And I believe, various senators were approached, including Senator Clinton & Senator Obama - when he was a senator - to see if they could drop the charges against one of the sheiks on the grounds of diplomatic immunity... And the Department of Justice gave them immunity from any prosecution for the Jockey-Boy scandal.

So, there's deep & profound blackmail rings operating in the gaming industry, in my opinion. And the people are only allowed into these Junket Rooms, where serious betting takes place, if they - there's a phrase in England for the espionage industry - "Do you have the wood on someone?"

That is to say, "Will they swing on a wooden gallows if you reveal what you know about them?" Because then you control them for the rest of their lives.

Much more within this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGem5m9Sr6g)...

[Harley]

It should be very interesting times in the good ole USA this week, not to mention there is a "DOD training exercise" on telecommunications this week. False flag week anyone?

http://www.arrl.org/news/communications-interoperability-training-with-amateur-radio-community-set
Communications Interoperability Training with Amateur Radio Community Set
10/24/2017

There's already a thread all fixed-up and ready for it here, MR.KNO.

A “Very Bad Day” Scenario: DoD exercises 4-6 November (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-A---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-DoD-exercises-4-6-November&p=1187161&viewfull=1#post1187161)

Thanks! :)

[Cidersomerset]

Vegas Shooting: Helicopter Exfil & LVPD Says THEY Fired Shot(s) In Hotel Room

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Published on 1 Nov 2017
They’re not sure how many rounds were fired, but the Las Vegas Police
Department tells us one of their own fired a shot or shots in the hotel
suite of Paddock. Inspector Clouseau will get back to us with more
details but Intellihub breaks down a detailed account of spoofed
commercial airlines that indicates the use of a helicopter to exfiltrate
— which would indicate a sophisticated conspiracy.

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Update - Vegas Security Guard Says “It’s a Big Fat Lie”, 1871

The Still Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5oVFVpI0CU

Published on 31 Oct 2017


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Good morning, I’m still reporting on: Update - Vegas Security Guard Says “It’s a
Big Fat Lie”, 1871
Synopsis: A lot of you have written in wondering what happened to this report. It
disappeared for a day.
We first published this report about 10pm Eastern on Sunday, Oct. 29th. But the
security guard featured in the story got nearly 300 threatening calls before sunrise
on Monday from a number his caller identified as 0000. So he called me and asked
me to remove his name from the video, but to put the story back up so that people
could know the truth. This is a brave, brave American, and we salute you, sir.
So, with some modifications, here is the video we first ran on Sunday.
On Thursday, Tucker Carlson interviewed David Dickey, the head of Jesus Campos
union. He told Tucker that Campos did not need a so-called guard card, that’s why
he did not have one. However, on Sunday, we got a call from a 15-year veteran
security guard in Las Vegas casinos who called that a “big fat lie.”

Let’s take a look at a segment of Tucker’s interview with Mr. Dickey first. Also note
that he claimed Campos was treated at a QuickCare Clinit, but this too, is denied by
the guard who says these facilities are not allowed to treat gunshot wounds
because they don’t even have an x-ray machine as well as other essential
equipment for that kind of surgery. Also note that Mr. Hickey says that Mr. Campos
was not taken to the QuickCare Clinic until Thursday 11 days after the shooting???
Does that make sense to anyone.?

So here’s a guy who was called a hero because he was evacuating people from
rooms while bleeding after he was shot. Remember in version #1 of the story, it
was police officers who insisted that he go to the hospital? But then Tucker Carlson
the day after the shooting called all the Quick Cares in the city and they reported
that Campos had not been there.

[Bill Ryan]

False Flags And Drills: What They Aren't Telling You About Vegas

VRTMHh3xvu0Published on 31 Oct 2017
Shepard Ambellas joins Alex Jones live in studio to break down new information
regarding the Las Vegas shooting on October 1st: helicopters, airplanes, and
flight space records tell it all.

Yes, this is strong, important information.

See this, also, from Jake Morphonios, published the day before yesterday: the first 3 minutes. It's possible that Shepard Ambellas was put on to this by Jake M. (But it doesn't really matter!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny0KUMyUK8U

Jake Morphonios confirms, today, that the Intellihub helicopter flight data information was originally researched by him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mC-zPzkg-g

[turiya]

LATE ADD----------

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPTION @ ~16:41:


David Hawkins: Backing up to your question about Stephen Paddock & SERCO =>

So then, we need to look at Serco, and ask ourselves => Could Serco Inc. be operating as an online Bookie, or Bookmaker, for these VIP Junket Rooms - sponsored or promoted by people like the late - Stephen Paddock?

Because the way Stephen Paddock appears to have made his money is to approach MGM, Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino, or the MGM Grand in Macau, or a room on one of these luxury cruise ships. Apparently, he went on 19 cruise ships with his girl friend. He fetched-up in Dubai, where I used to live - where the Arabs are notorious gamblers - you know, they gamble on camel racing. Incidentally, they use little boys abducted from Bangladesh for camel racing jockey-boys. But of course, they become sexual instruments for pleasure for these scumbags. And I believe, various senators were approached, including Senator Clinton & Senator Obama - when he was a senator - to see if they could drop the charges against one of the sheiks on the grounds of diplomatic immunity... And the Department of Justice gave them immunity from any prosecution for the Jockey-Boy scandal.

So, there's deep & profound blackmail rings operating in the gaming industry, in my opinion. And the people are only allowed into these Junket Rooms, where serious betting takes place, if they - there's a phrase in England for the espionage industry - "Do you have the wood on someone?"

That is to say, "Will they swing on a wooden gallows if you reveal what you know about them?" Because then you control them for the rest of their lives.

Much more within this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGem5m9Sr6g)...





Had to see if there was anything on youtube that would support what David Hawking had said about the Arab shieks being notorious gamblers. He said camel races were very big... with Jockey Boys being used, often times kidnapped from Bangladesh...

Did a little search & found this 2011 video report on the camel jockey boys in UAE...


Child camel jockeys in the Middle East -
Ansar Burney - Part 1
(Jun 13, 201)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G51lJ-0L2eA

Child camel jockeys in the Middle East -
Ansar Burney - Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoiOs2DXllM)

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[Cidersomerset]

Video of NYC Terrorist Instantly Released—Still No Video of Vegas Shooter Despite 1000s of Cameras

Andrew Cheetham...D.Icke.com

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ACTIVIST POST....

Video of NYC Terrorist Instantly Released—Still No Video of Vegas Shooter Despite 1000s of Cameras

TOPICS:Matt AgoristNew YorkTerrorismVegas Shooting.

November 1, 2017

https://www.activistpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/vegas-shooting-nyc-1392x731-1024x538.jpg
By Matt Agorist

Tuesday afternoon, a suspect, identified as Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov, according to
two law enforcement sources, rented a pickup truck, drove it onto a busy bicycle path
and mowed down innocent people before getting out and brandishing toy guns. Almost
immediately after the horrific attack that left 8 dead and a dozen more injured, video
of Saipov, an Uzbekistan native, was released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFJvZC8fk8M

There were multiple videos, taken from multiple angles showing the attacker flee the
truck and run through traffic. Police eventually caught Saipov, who they say is a
“lone wolf” attacker. Nearly as fast as the video was released, so were the declarations
that this attack was “an act of terrorism.”

“After he came to the United States is when he started to become informed about ISIS
and radical Islamic tactics,” Gov. Cuomo said on CNN. “Again, ISIS has gotten it down
to a simple formula that they can put on the internet and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist
to rent a car, rent a truck. But they are cowards and they are depraved.”'

read more...https://www.activistpost.com/2017/11/video-nyc-terrorist-instantly-released-still-no-video-vegas-shooter-despite-1000s-cameras.html

[Cidersomerset]

Had to see if there was anything on youtube that would support what David Hawking
had said about the Arab shieks being notorious gamblers. He said camel races were
very big... with Jockey Boys being used, often times kidnapped from Bangladesh...


The House of Saud that runs the country is one of the most corrupt in the world
I have a thread about it somewhere......It was common knowledge decades ago
that the Saudi elites came to London and other cities to gamble and visit
prostitutes despite having harems at home. The camel jockeys are well known
so is the exploitation of foreign workers , women and brutal judiciary that has
the same code as ISIS which they help create and fund the list goes on.....

They also buys weapons and oil flow to keep the west off there back who created
Saudi Arabia as it is today after WW1 and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire..
Allowing for anti government bias with some witness's, the allergations are hard
to hide but easier to overlook, and the western press only criticises now and then.
This is not to say there are corrupt officials in all countries...

( Old Thread )
WTF? Crucifixion, Beheading, Stoning, Saudi Arabia and ISIS/ISIL have near-identical punishments!!
Warning some graphic content ......
I don't know why this article shocked me? as I know most of this goes on , but such hypocrisy !!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85350-WTF-Crucifixion-Beheading-Stoning-Saudi-Arabia-and-ISIS-ISIL-have-near-identical-punishments--


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Saudi King Fahd Lost $ 6 Million in Gambling in One Night, Monte Carlo Casinos
Supported the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the soviets thus spawning the
events with the CIA that led to 9/11 and the war on terror up until today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmESS8Mpyoc
Published on 7 Sep 2013


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Saudi King Abdullah and his thirty wives speaks out 1 FIRST EXCLUSIVE LOOK..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUC4G-M9ENA

Published on 23 Oct 2015
Exclusive: in her first television interview, the former wife of King
Abdullah of Saudi Arabia claims her four daughters have suffered years

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Saudi Arabia Royal Family visits Prostitutes in Europe George Galloway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0VB5MoKAYU
Published on 22 Jul 2014

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Former Saudi Princess Exposes the Royal Family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR7iwCuudwc

Published on 3 Feb 2016
As the IMF predicts years of austerity for Saudi Arabia, Afshin Rattansi
goes underground with a woman who was a former Saudi princess-
Janan Harb. A film is currently being made based on her book-
The Saudi King and I.

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Saudi Arabia People starving while royal family spending money on gambling & prostitutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joxgOQFFkAI
Published on 24 Aug 2013
https://www.youtube.com/user/Rashidu2...

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40,000 political prisoners ?

Saudi prince defects: 'Brutality, oppression as govt scared of Arab revolts' (EXCLUSIVE)

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Published on 12 Aug 2013
In recent weeks Saudi Arabia has launched an offensive against anti-regime
activists arresting many and sentencing some to years in jail. Total number
of political prisoners has now surpassed 40 thousand according to some reports.
The crackdown has even forced a member of the ruling family to defect. RT Arabic
spoke exclusively to Saudi prince Khaled Bin Farhan Al-Saud - who accuses the
monarchy of corruption and silencing all voices of dissent. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/ln5nec

[Cidersomerset]

The FBI are either totally incompetent or deliberately manipulating false flags.
Tucker does not quite say this but very close.....


Tucker: Vegas investigators don't know what they're doing

Ym_edbi6gV4

Published on 3 Nov 2017
Tucker's Thoughts: There are still so many unanswered questions in the Las
Vegas massacre. This is not the only federal investigation that has shaken in
public confidence recently. #Tucker

[TargeT]

The FBI are either totally incompetent or deliberately manipulating false flags.
Tucker does not quite say this but very close.....


Tucker: Vegas investigators don't know what they're doing

Ym_edbi6gV4

Published on 3 Nov 2017
Tucker's Thoughts: There are still so many unanswered questions in the Las
Vegas massacre. This is not the only federal investigation that has shaken in
public confidence recently. #Tucker

so... if something like that is coming out on TV, that means it's a "sanctioned" message right? Is this prep for the coming moves against the FBI predicted by 4chan? (the next phase is supposedly happening today and this weekend) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-A---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-DoD-exercises-4-6-November)

[Helene West]

The FBI are either totally incompetent or deliberately manipulating false flags.
Tucker does not quite say this but very close.....


Tucker: Vegas investigators don't know what they're doing

Ym_edbi6gV4

Published on 3 Nov 2017
Tucker's Thoughts: There are still so many unanswered questions in the Las
Vegas massacre. This is not the only federal investigation that has shaken in
public confidence recently. #Tucker

so... if something like that is coming out on TV, that means it's a "sanctioned" message right? Is this prep for the coming moves against the FBI predicted by 4chan? (the next phase is supposedly happening today and this weekend) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-A---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-DoD-exercises-4-6-November)

Interesting angle Target. I wasn't aware of 'moves against the FBI'. I don't go to 4chan as I find it confusing but I just can't wait for tomorrow (sarc). I may bury myself in sports until Sunday and read the aftermath.

I have no doubt our ruling class media will do the opposite of what they did for trump's inauguration. Then they made it look like no one wanted to show up for an american president's swearing in. Tomorrow they will make it look like everyone in the country wants trump impeached.

[Bill Ryan]

More from Jake Morphonios, yesterday evening US time. He's doing a LOT of good groundwork here. Kudos.

(Warning: graphic images)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O775s6JcMi0

[James Newell]

Looks like the sheriff is having big problems with the helicopter theory. So what were those flashes in the sky during the shooting? the fbi coverup is getting blown already and I bet we won't have to wait for 55 years like the Jfk assassination.
I had a reporter that works for Fox ask me, "So what was the purpose of these shootings?"(if it wasn't just a 'lone' shooter) Anybody got some answers for him?

https://www.intellihub.com/sheriff-lombardo-discounts-helicopter-theory-questions-mental-state-of-intellihubs-editor-in-chief/

[Cidersomerset]

This is all the segments in one vid from a few days ago......

Shepard Ambellas - Incredible New Vegas Shooting Details

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Published on 31 Oct 2017
INFOWARS Live Stream:
http://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jo...

[wnlight]

I am still trying to decide if the Las Vegas shooting was planned by the CIA or the FBI. The CIA is more cold-blooded and the FBI is more bumbling.

[ditting]

This video appears to show muzzle flash coming from a helicopter at the time of the shooting. I'm very interested to hear what you fine folks think of this...

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[TrumanCash]

Jeff & Kimberly King (Her First Interview) And Husband Billy (Shot Thru Chest) - Stunning -- Rense interview clip from October 26, 2017

Dramatic, credible interview revealing multiple shooters including shooters on the concert grounds apparently chasing people northward. Woman gets shot in the face running to the northeast in the direction of Hooters and Tropicana Club Tower tends to support theory that shooters (Mandalay and on the concert grounds) may have intentionally drove people northward into shooter at or near the Tropicana Club Tower.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSTt2G0WEI

[TrumanCash]

Jeff & Kimberly King (Her First Interview) And Husband Billy (Shot Thru Chest) - Stunning -- Rense interview clip from October 26, 2017

Dramatic, credible interview revealing multiple shooters including shooters on the concert grounds apparently chasing people northward. Woman gets shot in the face running to the northeast in the direction of Hooters and Tropicana Club Tower tends to support theory that shooters (Mandalay and on the concert grounds) may have intentionally drove people northward into shooter at or near the Tropicana Club Tower.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSTt2G0WEI

The tall guy with a black cowboy hat in Rense's youtube video appears to be the same guy sitting down and holding what appears to be a drink that we've seen in another picture by the short white fence. (I don't know if the man and woman to the right of the standing guy with black cowboy hat on the Rense picture are Billy & Kimberly King. Edit: Apparently not; see photos in following posts.)

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_40/2174686/171002-vegas-shooting-1010_2_88994ae3cb121abaaf564af25aa67ef4.nbcnews-ux-1024-900.jpg

[TrumanCash]

Mandalay Bay employee shot in the back while protecting wife during Las Vegas massacre, survives by a 'miracle' (GRAPHIC IMAGES) (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mandalay-bay-employee-shot-back-survives-shielding-wife-article-1.3539570)

NY Daily News article indicates Billy King is a "Mandalay Bay employee"--pictures of bullet wound in chest. If this article and pictures are accurate then it is not the couple to the right of the standing guy with black cowboy hat in the Rense video above.

Bullet hole in chest photo appears to show that the bullet hit above his left lung so he would be able to run northeastward toward Hooters and Tropicana Club Tower.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3539564.1507076870!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/billy4n-6-web.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3539565.1507076872!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/billy4n-5-web.jpg

More pictures here at GO FUND ME. (https://www.gofundme.com/las-vegas-victim-billy-king)

More pictures at Daily Mail. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4952160/Husband-shot-protecting-wife-Vegas-massacre.html)

[TrumanCash]

Paloma Solamente (left) helped save Billy King's (right) life after he was shot during the Route 91 Harvest festival. King's wife Kimberly (middle) also joined the interview. (https://knpr.org/knpr/2017-10/route-91-hero-reunited-man-she-saved) -- Interview and article from Nevada Public Radio KNPR

[Billy King, a bellman at Mandalay Bay, is on the right; Kimberly is in the middle and Paloma Solamente who drove them to the hospital is on the left.]

https://knpr.org/sites/default/files/public/styles/detail_small/public/images/story/shooting_hero_saved_guy.jpg?itok=f3v8Oxgo

[Cidersomerset]

Three victims remain in hospital one month after Las Vegas massacre

DsnDl2AV1nA

Published on 1 Nov 2017
Carter Evans reports on the survivors of the mass shooting in Las Vegas
last month who are not only bonded by tragedy, but also by gratitude

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Woman shot in head in Las Vegas now walking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SVhwCaYWJU

Published on 3 Nov 2017
CNN's Erin Burnett gets an update on Tina Frost, who was shot in
the head during the Las Vegas shooting, from her friend, Amy Klinger.

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[turiya]

I am still trying to decide if the Las Vegas shooting was planned by the CIA or the FBI. The CIA is more cold-blooded and the FBI is more bumbling.

I believe that the answer to this question lies much further up the food-chain. Meaning, what David Hawkins & Field McConnell (Abel Danger (http://www.abeldanger.org/)) are speaking of is pretty much right on target. As, they continually reference the British company - Serco Inc. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco) - that's what is allegedly the controlling mechanism that is directing the different compartmentalized segments of the so-called 'intelligence' community to trigger these insidious events. Such events that have been going on since well before 911 & will no doubt be taking place in the forseeable future across this planet.

David Hawkins quote:

"If you dismiss all the people who are totally innocent & ignorant of any particular conspiracy, there is one group of people that does what it shouldn't do, and another group that doesn't do what it should do.

And with the criminal organizations that have existed over decades - right back, for example, to RCA GB 1929 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#History)", which was founded in 1929 as a wholly & subsidiary of Radio Corporation of America in New York. And, all of the crimes committed by this organization through World War II, right through Peal Harbor & on to 911, and right after the present time, where its now called Serco....

...And that's a pretty sobering thought... that 'X' years later, we still don't recognize that there was an attempted coup d'etat on 911 by the Deep State, armed by & working for, for example, the Greek-life associates of Wilbur Ross, Serco's investment banker - N M Rothschild (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_M_Rothschild_%26_Sons)". Incidently, Wilbur Ross was also the investment banker for the Trump operation in 1990 when Trump faced going bankrupt. And so, Wilbur Ross worked a deal with the creditors. But unfortunately, the borrower is always the servant of the lender."

(paraphrasing)

"When you have 16 competing Intelligence Agencies all vying for funding, it will be impossible to find the truth."I am presently attempting to understand more in depth what Abel Danger has been trying to bring to the fore & expose.

For example, with the latest New York truck attack, Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov got into America in 2010 on what is known as a Diversity Visa Program (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa). And who do you think issued him with this Visa?

Yes, that would be Serco Inc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco)... that would be the same British corporate entity that trains & supplies all branches of the U.S. military with their ammunition supplies. It also provides the security for all the major hotels across the planet... Marriott & Trump's Turnberry Hotel in Scottland...

From Wikipedia:



3 Outside the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Outside_the_UK)

3.1 Drivers' licensing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Drivers.27_licensing)
3.2 Parking meter servicing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Parking_meter_servicing)
3.3 Health in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Health_in_the_United_States)
3.4 Prisons and justice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Prisons_and_justice_2)
3.5 Transport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco#Transport_2)





Abel Danger 11/02/2017 Update: David Hawking on
Serco’s Demon Bike Path Visa, Wilbur's 8a Death Pool Betting
(from Nov. 02, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpZrfmgLqGw

Unedited version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVNFYFTx_OA&t=463s

Late Add:

Interesting News development today:

"Billionaire prince among dozens arrested in Saudi sweep" (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/saudis-arrest-11-princes-dozens-ministers-shake-50940094) - dozens of princes and former ministers have been arrested as authorities announce an anti-corruption drive. A Saudi security official earlier told The Associated Press that the detainees are being held in five-star hotels across Riyadh as part of an anti-corruption sweep.

http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBiL1RC.img?h=373&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=996&y=9 00
__________Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Alsaud__________Still waiting to find out what the specific charges will be, as a "corruption" charge(s) could be a wide variety of things.

This was the same sheik that has the biggest camel racing operation that has been abducting young boys from Bangladesh to be used as "Jockey Boys", many of which are sexually abused... I posted this video in a previous post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1188679&viewfull=1#post1188679).

And more from Zerohedge....



In Shocking Purge, Saudi King Arrests Billionaire Prince Bin Talal, Dozens Of Others In Cabinet Crackdown (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/shocking-purge-saudi-king-arrests-billionaire-prince-bin-talal-others-anti-money-lau)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/bin talal.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/shocking-purge-saudi-king-arrests-billionaire-prince-bin-talal-others-anti-money-lau)
In a shocking development, on Saturday prominent billionaire and member of the royal Saudi family, al-Waleed bin Talal, along with 10 other senior princes and over 30 minister has been arrested for corruption charges, in a dramatic crackdown by the Saudi royal family in what some have dubbed a countercoup attempt.

Nov 5, 2017 3:20 PM

[Helene West]

Wow. I've forgotten over the years about the Abel Danger guys! I listened to them a decade ago when the lady who runs Rumor Mill News, Rayelan Allan, used to interview them. I stopped listening back then because quite frankly I would have the sensation of not only going down the rabbit hole, but going down HEAD FIRST.

[turiya]

The Saudis are a big, big client / shareholder of Serco Inc... big shareholders include big banks, governments & wealthy elitists... the kind of elitists would be those that would frequent the 5-Star Hotel Junket Gaming Rooms..


Shakeup In Saudi Arabia Tied To LV?
(Nov 4, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-WenOHc0w______________

Copy of SERCO GROUP PLC: List of Subsidiaries
AND Shareholders! (Mobile Playback Version)
(Jul 6, 2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncj9tg1WD1I______________

Screenshot from the video above... (Emphasis mine.)...


Copy of SERCO GROUP PLC: List of Subsidiaries AND Shareholders!

https://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/ANDREW_BARTZIS/SERCO_SUBSIDIARIES_and_SHAREHOLDERS_FOCUS_SAUDI_AR ABIA_2.png

_______Late Add_______

In support of the above...


Serco secures first major rail contract in Saudi Arabia (https://www.serco.com/me/news/media-releases/2015/serco-secures-first-major-rail-contract-in-saudi-arabia)

Download PDF (https://www.serco.com/media/768/768.original.pdf?1475067461)
Published: 23 Feb 2015
Serco Group plc, the international service company, announces that a Serco-led consortium has today signed a contract with the Saudi Railway Company (SAR) to be its partner, providing management and technical support for operations on the North South Railway (NSR). The contract, which starts immediately, has a total value to Serco of approximately £120m over five years and is Serco's first major rail contract in Saudi Arabia.
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More from Field McConnell of Abel Danger... First few minutes gets into Col Roy Potter's video (posted above)... the Saudis occupying several top floors of the Mandalay Bay, as well as the illegally operated (no flying lights) (3) unregistered helicopters... (I may make an edited version of this because McConnell spews alot of just plain 'hot air')...


Sunday November 5, 2017 Cafe with Field
and Pelitical's Phil Roberts Episode 12

(Nov 5, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9czogZFZLyc____________________


The New Yorker

The Saudi Royal Purge—with Trump’s Consent (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-saudi-royal-purge-with-trumps-consent)
By Robin Wright (https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/robin-wright)
Hours ago
2:11 P.M.

https://i0.wp.com/naijanewsagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/538f4e13598c151262b6f631cbbd3e7ddaa6c0d2.jpg?fit=1 200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200
Both critics and supporters believe that the purge’s
mastermind is Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
(Photograph by Faye Nureldine / AFP / Getty)

The Trump Administration supports the sweeping changes that have redefined the kingdom—and the royal family—over the past two years. En route to Asia, just hours before the purge on Saturday, the President spoke with the king from Air Force One to praise him and the Crown Prince for making statements on “the need to build a moderate, peaceful, and tolerant region,” which is “essential to ensuring a hopeful future for the Saudi people, to curtailing terrorist funding, and to defeating radical ideology—once and for all—so the world can be safe from its evil,” the White House reported in an unusually detailed statement.


________________________________

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_5.png (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/927672843504177152)
I have great confidence in King Salman and
the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know
exactly what they are doing....

3:03 PM - 6 Nov 2017
________________________________

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/TRUMP_TWEETS/TRUMP_TWITTER_ICON_5.png ("https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/927673257230327808)
....Some of those they are harshly treating
have been “milking” their country for years!

3:05 PM - 6 Nov 2017
________________________________

Probably America as well...

[Hervé]

Another Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zu7.html)'s contribution:
BLOCKBUSTER (http://82.221.129.208/.zu7.html)

Air traffic control at the nearby airport in Vegas reported multiple shooters on airport property to incoming planes, blocked all civilian landings, and allowed a military plane loaded with troops to land, to help get the shooters. They clearly said on the audio recordings of their communications with the planes that they had multiple shooters on the runway at the air port and that they had to go out and round them up.

Obviously what the airport saw was the shooters making a bee line to a plane somewhere there. They probably did not get a chance to bust anyone, most likely the shooters simply vanished into a private jet and hid. That is what I said all along - the airport was the getaway point and now we have confirmation that the control tower saw the bastards.

I have saved this video already (obviously) and will serve it from here if it vanishes. The video is not a hoax, the actual recordings of the tower conversations are there, and they clearly tell planes not to land because they have active shooters on the runway.


4evxlJYd-MY
The patsy was killed, the eye witnesses have died, The security guard was replaced by a fat clone who has nothing to do with the case, the government doesn't want to talk about it and people are playing blind.

Pictures taken on high class SLR cameras clearly show the Mandalay had intact windows in Paddock's room well after the shooting was done.

The only emergency response happened at Hooters casino a half mile away, with no emergency response at the concert itself, where people were left to die.

We were told it was a lone nut when there were obvious multiple shooters, and now this from the airport, where they reported they had shooters ON THE RUNWAY.

FOLKS, THEY DID NOT SCREW THAT UP, THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS HAVE A PERFECT VIEW OF THE RUNWAY FROM END TO END.

The media lied about all of it. So now that we had another huge shooting at a church in Texas, I beg to question: Did anyone really get the story on this? ANYONE AT ALL?

[turiya]

Reddit asks the question...



Saudi Prince Al Waleed Bin Talel Majority Owner of Four Seasons...Floors 35-39 in Mandalay Bay is a Four Seasons...Was this the escape route for the shooter?- Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/74tihq/saudi_prince_al_waleed_bin_talel_majorirty_owner/?st=j9ozrx2s&sh=e32c8c9c)
__________________


The Telegraph

Bill Gates and Prince Al Waleed bin Talal in Four Seasons deal (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4655209/Bill-Gates-and-Prince-Alwaleed-bin-Talal-in-Four-Seasons-deal.html)
By David Litterick in New York
7:00AM GMT
12 Feb 2007

https://t1.hespress.com/files/Sans_titre_670746315.jpg
Bill Gates is going into the hotel business. The Microsoft chairman has joined with Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal to back a management buy out of the luxury hotel group Four Seasons for $3.8bn (£1.95bn).

The hotel business has been enjoying a boom as global travel increases while the availability of hotel rooms fails to keep pace. Four Seasons operates 75 up-market hotels in 31 countries, as well as owning a number of timeshare properties.

The deal, which will see the chain's chief executive Isadore Sharp pick up $289m, was first mooted in November last year. Mr Sharp, who has led the company since it was founded in 1978, will remain at the helm.

Prince Alwaleed is already Four Seasons' biggest holder, with 22pc of the company. The Gates Foundation is the fifth-biggest holder with a stake of around 5pc. Mr Gates will purchase his share of the company through his Cascade Investment vehicle. This is not the first time Mr Gates and the Saudi prince have collaborated. Following a dinner at Mr Gates' home in Washington state in early 2004, Prince Alwaleed agreed to explore ways to assist Microsoft's expansion in Saudi Arabia.

Blackstone Group has also been a major force behind deals in the sector, acquiring MeriStar Hospitality, Extended Stay America, Prime Hospitality, Boca Resorts, Wyndham International and La Quinta.
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About
Four Seasons Hotel Las Vegas (https://www.fourseasons.com/lasvegas/)




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Read more (https://www.fourseasons.com/lasvegas/#)
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I'm sensing that Jake Morphonios (maker of this video, while adding an eschatological Revelations interpretation to the mix) - has an entirely different read on this than I do... Will have to wait for his Part 2... in the meantime, judge it for yourselves...


The Saudi Purge and the Rothschild
New World Order - Part 1
(Nov 6, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmO8Lff1uqk________Late Add________


Oh, that didn't take long for Jake's Part 2 to be published... haven't seen it yet, but here it is...


The Saudi Purge and the Rothschild
New World Order - Part 2
(Nov 6, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1_FQxM3zeg

Late, Late Add -
After seeing the above Jake Morphonios Part 2 breakdown... Like I said previously, Jake & I see things a bit differently regarding the direction that I see he is attempting to go to in his Part 3 (not yet published).

First of all, I have no problem with the information that he's brought forth in his Part 2, concerning Bush Sr & Bush Jr & their relation to the Bin Laden family. However, I do have an issue with where he will be attempting to take this with his next video (Part 3). As the images that he is showing on the screen behind him, while he lays out the facts, are quite telling.

What I mean, is that appears as though Jake will be making an attempt to align Trump with the so-called "New World Order" when he asks the rhetorical questions pertaining to Trump's supposed multi-billion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia when he says @ 21:09:

"Why is Trump over there in Saudi Arabia working out military deals with them? Why is it that he's out there bending the knee & giving the Saudi regime all these multi-billion dollar weapon deals, while ignoring what we know to be the unquestionable truth - that the Saudis played a huge role in the September 11th attacks.The fact of the matter is that Trumps so-called Arms Deal wasn't actually a Trump arms deal. On the contrary, it was a deal that was made by the previous administration. Yes - that's right - it was a deal that was made by the Obama administration.

See the following Defense News article (https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2017/05/28/why-the-saudi-weapons-deal-may-not-live-up-to-hype/):



Why the Saudi weapons deal may not live up to hype (https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2017/05/28/why-the-saudi-weapons-deal-may-not-live-up-to-hype/)
By: Aaron Mehta (https://www.defensenews.com/author/aaron-mehta) and Joe Gould (https://www.defensenews.com/author/joe-gould)   May 28

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US President Donald Trump joins dancers with swords at a welcome ceremony ahead of a banquet
at the Murabba Palace in Riyadh on May 20, 2017. / AFP PHOTO / MANDEL NGAN (Photo credit
should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON – When U.S. President Donald Trump visited the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia May 20, he brought with him a gift: a major arms agreement for the longstanding Gulf ally.

But while the deal was announced with much enthusiasm on both sides, the reality is that the package – stated to be $110 billion in arms sales, with a $350 billion potential over the next ten years – faces significant regulatory and Congressional hurdles before anything can get done.

While the weapons sales were announced as a package, each potential sale will have to go through the foreign military sales procedure individually. That means any weapon, training package or bullet that the Trump administration wants the Saudis to have will have to go through legal vetting at the State Department before heading to Congress, where members have the power to veto a deal.

And beyond that, each agreement will then have to be negotiated with the U.S. industrial partner, a negotiation during which dollar amounts and quantities often change and deals have been known to fall apart entirely. In other words, Memorandums of Intent are nice, but don't represent real deals.

One source familiar with discussions around the package said the Defense Security Cooperation Agency could be clearing deals related to this package for the next "five to six years," and said about ten percent of the package were items that have already been cleared by DSCA and notified to Congress.

Details about what is in the package remain thin, and likely will for some time. The State Department claims the package includes $110 billion worth of defense capabilities "to be conveyed via Foreign Military Sales Letters of Offer and Acceptance and a Memorandum of Intent."

That includes seven announced deals:


$6.8 billion for munitions and support, dating back to Oct. 2013;
11.25 billion for multi-mission surface combatant ships dating from Oct. 2015;
$500 million in ammunition, dating to July 2015;
$1.15 billion for M1A2S Saudi Abrams main battle tanks and other ground vehicles, dated to Aug. 2016;
$3.5 billion for CH-47F Chinook cargo helicopters, dating to Dec. 2016;
$525 million for surveillance aerostats, dating to Jan. 2017;
$250 million for broad training for the Saudi navy.

That total represents just under $24 billion worth of deals, although that number represents a cap and not a floor for negotiations on final price. The roughly $86 billion left will be made up of future sales, which State says will fall into five categories: "border security and counterterrorism, maritime and coastal security, air force modernization, air and missile defense, and cybersecurity and communications upgrades."

The big one that is known – the sale of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system to the Kingdom. Another hint came from a Lockheed Martin press release, which said the agreement includes a Letter of Intent between the world’s largest defense firm and Saudi company Taqnia to form a joint venture to "support final assembly and completion of an estimated 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters for the Saudi government." (That agreement was first announced, in an exploratory fashion, in Feb. 2016.)

The source was unclear how much of the remaining deals were discussed with the Obama administration and are already being vetted, but said discussions around THAAD began before Trump took office.

So in essence: Trump can deliver $24 billion in arms sales to the Kingdom off the bat. He can deliver roughly $86 billion if he doesn’t run into any headwinds in Congress. And the remaining dollars he would need to reach $350 billion? That appears to be a mix of speculation about future sales, commercial tie-ups, and expectations of sustainment contracts for equipment.

Emma Ashford, a research fellow with the Cato Institute, said the announcement was "mostly Trump taking credit for the previous administration's" decisions.

"The symbolism of the thing is probably more significant than any military benefit," she said. "But the trip and the deal from Trump both seem to signify the administration's stance will be to wholeheartedly back Saudi Arabia in its regional choices. That is not likely to improve regional stability."

Ashford also warns that future deals may not actually materialize, due to real-world factors.

"The Trump White House may be willing to sell oil-rich Gulf states whatever they want, but unless the price of oil goes back up, these states are going to face longer-term budgetary pressures that may inhibit these kind of purchases," Ashford said.

When announcing the deal, Trump declared this would deliver "jobs, jobs, jobs" for Americans. But the nature of weapon sales in 2017 means any agreement comes with offsets, often including industrial base participation in the buyer’s backyard.

For example, a statement from Lockheed Martin about the deal notes that final assembly and completion of an estimated 150 S-70 Black Hawk utility helicopters will create 450 U.S. jobs – and 450 jobs in the Kingdom. Overall, Lockheed claims its part of the agreement will create "18,000 highly skilled jobs in the U.S. and thousands of jobs in Saudi Arabia."

Becca Wasser, an analyst with the think tank Rand, notes that General Dynamic and Raytheon, two other big winners in the pre-cleared package, appear to also include local job creation provisions in their agreements. But while the Saudi government is focused on its Vision 2030 domestic industrial development plan, Wasser doesn’t expect the local defense industry to become self-sufficient enough to challenge U.S. goods.

"I think it will be some time before Saudi will develop standalone capabilities to produce defense items internally and definitely a significant amount of time before they can produce defense equipment in multiple domains," she said. But, "The Saudis and other U.S. partners gain more than just arms from purchasing defense equipment, they gain access to the U.S. government. It’s unlikely that Riyadh is looking to forgo this route.

Congressional blockage
Congress can block (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwirzOXdvInUAhVEJiYKHW4ZBjYQFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffas.org%2Fsgp%2Fcrs%2Fweapons%2F RL31675.pdf&usg=AFQjCNG_LyvqgaZOBrX3v8aPexBruEE_Aw&sig2=bPubbHgCI5tLokGGV7UmDg) any U.S. arms sale by enacting a joint resolution of disapproval as stipulated in the Arms Export Control Act. After receiving formal notification of the sale from the White House, opponents would be able to introduce a joint resolution in the House and Senate to block it—and force a Senate floor vote.

As of May 24, lawmakers on the Hill have yet to be briefed on the sales Trump announced on his Saudi trip, and there have been no pre-notifications to lodge an objection to. But Sen. Rand Paul R-K.Y., still reportedly intends to force a vote of disapproval on the Saudi agreement over concerns that the weapons will be used to kill civilians in Yemen.

Connecticut Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy is expected to join Paul in filing such a resolution that would include four new notices of offensive weapon sales for the Yemen fight. "I don’t understand why this administration is not using this arms sale as a means to get some movement from the Saudis on humanitarian issues in the region," Murphy told Defense News on May 24. "There are some awful things happening in Yemen and this is your chance to try to move them on letting humanitarian aid into the country."

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in early May, signaled the administration would back away from human rights diplomacy, and said sometimes U.S. values would have to take a back seat to economic interests or national security.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said he expects the Senate to allow the sales, but acknowledged the humanitarian concerns, saying lawmakers have recently aired them with Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir and had "back-channel" conversations on the issue.

"We had a very blunt meeting with the foreign minister recently on this very topic—very, very blunt," Corker said. "I think they understand the issue, and certainly the administration has done the same with them, relative to humanitarian issues.

Last September, the Senate voted 71-27 to scuttle Paul and Murphy’s joint resolution to disapprove a $1.15 billion sale to Riyadh. A powerful group of Republicans countered in floor speeches that blocking the sale would weaken an alliance shaken by the US nuclear deal with Iran and upset the regional balance of power.

One of them, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., the chair of the Senate appropriations subcommittee that oversees the foreign affairs budget, told Defense News on May 24, the new effort, "will be overwhelmingly defeated."

"I’m for the deal," he said. "Now’s the time to improve the capabilities of our Sunni Arab allies given the threat of Iran and ISIL. I want to modernize their force, so I’m all for the deal."

One particular roadblock in the Senate may come from Israel, both in the form of political pressure and in the form of legal challenges over its Qualitative Military Edge. The THAAD system – with a high-end radar – could be particularly thorny for QME, said Wasser.

"This is a matter that really should trouble us," Israeli Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz said May 21 at the weekly cabinet meeting. "We have also to make sure that those hundreds of billions of dollars of weapons to Saudi Arabia will not, by any means, erode Israel's qualitative edge, because Saudi Arabia is still a hostile country without any diplomatic relations, and nobody knows what the future will be."

And if QME isn’t an issue and Congress gives sales the OK, there may still be another challenge. Perhaps complicating the matter further: the day before the weapons package was announced, the American Bar Association released a document stating (https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/human_rights/ABACHRAssessmentofArmsSalestoSaudiArabia.authcheck dam.pdf) that weapon sales to the Kingdom may be illegal, as their use in Yemen would violate international humanitarian laws.

All told, Wasser said, "it’s likely we won’t see much of the kit purchased for some time."

[Tintin]

I'm about to do something that I really didn't imagine a few months ago having to do, ever. I'm putting this on record, really for me, but it is an act of consciousness, that is all.

Concerning Donald Trump: I am about to eat my words. (Fortunately for me they taste of steak, fried eggs and potatoes washed down with a small glass of red wine). I'd stated some pretty harsh things which I do now regret having said, at all, and I'm sorry.

I now find myself really rather more concerned for his safety; think that he should be given the proper opportunity to do the job that a larger number of Americans believe he could do; I now think he may have greater integrity than I gave him credit for. In short I now believe I was wrong. I may never ideallogically chime with him completely, but I do think that he genuinely wants to make a positive difference and would seem to be the target for very unreasonable bullying from his idealogical counterparts. I don't think that's fair, and now I find myself wishing him the best of luck. Boy, he's got some job on his hands.

TQ xx

[Tintin]

Another Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zu7.html)'s contribution:
BLOCKBUSTER (http://82.221.129.208/.zu7.html)

Air traffic control at the nearby airport in Vegas reported multiple shooters on airport property to incoming planes, blocked all civilian landings, and allowed a military plane loaded with troops to land, to help get the shooters. They clearly said on the audio recordings of their communications with the planes that they had multiple shooters on the runway at the air port and that they had to go out and round them up.

Obviously what the airport saw was the shooters making a bee line to a plane somewhere there. They probably did not get a chance to bust anyone, most likely the shooters simply vanished into a private jet and hid. That is what I said all along - the airport was the getaway point and now we have confirmation that the control tower saw the bastards.

I have saved this video already (obviously) and will serve it from here if it vanishes. The video is not a hoax, the actual recordings of the tower conversations are there, and they clearly tell planes not to land because they have active shooters on the runway.


4evxlJYd-MY
The patsy was killed, the eye witnesses have died, The security guard was replaced by a fat clone who has nothing to do with the case, the government doesn't want to talk about it and people are playing blind.

Pictures taken on high class SLR cameras clearly show the Mandalay had intact windows in Paddock's room well after the shooting was done.

The only emergency response happened at Hooters casino a half mile away, with no emergency response at the concert itself, where people were left to die.

We were told it was a lone nut when there were obvious multiple shooters, and now this from the airport, where they reported they had shooters ON THE RUNWAY.

FOLKS, THEY DID NOT SCREW THAT UP, THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS HAVE A PERFECT VIEW OF THE RUNWAY FROM END TO END.

The media lied about all of it. So now that we had another huge shooting at a church in Texas, I beg to question: Did anyone really get the story on this? ANYONE AT ALL?


Oh wow Herve, this is sensational. Amazing find.

[turiya]

I listened to the Roy Potter vid above. I'm confused. Is he saying that the LV killings were done by muslims ticked off by the Trump meeting with them in the mideast a few months ago and this was pay back for whatever went down there? And now somehow Trump friendly shieks are in charge doing a purge of the ones responsible for the killings??

And then, Serco, who the Abel Danger guys have been saying forever is one of the most evil companies in the world gets a contract by the Trump friendly guys?

Definitely confused.




Roy Potter, as he said, is lacking much sleep... Maybe the following video will help...
the one thing you should know==> we are winning!

:)

THE PURGE: RATS ARE BEING ROUNDED UP
(Nov 6, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhWbuzzrD0c

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/10/18/3A3E3EBA00000578-0-image-a-11_1478802017271.jpg (https://twitter.com/alwaleed_talal/status/675390247165915137?lang=en)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/10/18/3A3E3EBE00000578-0-image-a-12_1478802020918.jpg (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/675523728055410689?lang=en)


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/12/13/2F4E568E00000578-0-image-a-15_1449928224384.jpg

____________________________



This from KiwiElf...

Saudi Purge Goes Nuclear: Over 1,200 Bank Accounts Frozen (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/saudi-purge-goes-nuclear-over-1200-bank-accounts-frozen)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/bin salman 4_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/saudi-purge-goes-nuclear-over-1200-bank-accounts-frozen)
Saudi Arabia took its "money laundering" crackdown to the next level on Tuesday when Saudi banks reportedly froze more than 1,200 accounts belonging to individuals and companies in the kingdom as part of the government’s countercoup "anti-corruption purge."

Nov 7, 2017 12:36 PM

[Satori]

I'm about to do something that I really didn't imagine a few months ago having to do, ever. I'm putting this on record, really for me, but it is an act of consciousness, that is all.

Concerning Donald Trump: I am about to eat my words. (Fortunately for me they taste of steak, fried eggs and potatoes washed down with a small glass of red wine). I'd stated some pretty harsh things which I do now regret having said, at all, and I'm sorry.

I now find myself really rather more concerned for his safety; think that he should be given the proper opportunity to do the job that a larger number of Americans believe he could do; I now think he may have greater integrity than I gave him credit for. In short I now believe I was wrong. I may never ideallogically chime with him completely, but I do think that he genuinely wants to make a positive difference and would seem to be the target for very unreasonable bullying from his idealogical counterparts. I don't think that's fair, and now I find myself wishing him the best of luck. Boy, he's got some job on his hands.

TQ xx

Kudos to you TQ. It takes an honest, thinking and caring person to do what you just did.

[KiwiElf]

Check the 4CHAN leaks - Saudi Arabia purge is massively connected to this (as are the Clintons):

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/

[turiya]

Check the 4CHAN leaks - Saudi Arabia purge is massively connected to this (as are the Clintons):

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/

Thanks KiwiElf... This is kind of like getting some good feedback on how well my intuitive sense is working...
As I posted the following in Post #698 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1186347#post1186347)... that was on October 19.


Now, something just occurred to me... Knowing how sleezy the FBI has been over the decades...

And, with all of what we've seen regarding what was going on with the FBI Director James Comey, Loretta Lynch, tarmack-gate with Bill Clinton, the Benghazi fiasco, together with Hillary's email scandal being tied into a Pay to Play scheme through the Clinton Foundation while Hillary tended the Office of Secretary of State... Ripping off the people of Haiti, while also looking back at the murders of Seth Rich, Vince Foster, and the long list of other mysterious deaths tied to the Clintons...

I am just wondering... especially after seeing the following headline posted on ZeroHedge... (below)

Could this latest attack on Americans in Las Vegas, with 59 deaths... Could it be possible that these recent deaths can also be added to the already extensive Clinton Body Count???

Just really wondering... how wicked some people could actually be???
Could there be a link to all of this???


FBI Informant "Threatened" After Offering Details Linking Clinton Foundation To Russian Bribery Case (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-18/fbi-informant-says-he-was-threatened-after-offering-details-linking-clinton-foundati)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user230519/imageroot/2017.10.18 - FBI Tease.JPG (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-18/fbi-informant-says-he-was-threatened-after-offering-details-linking-clinton-foundati)
"The government was taking a very harsh position that threatened both your reputation and liberty. As you will recall the gov’t made serious threats sufficient to cause you to withdraw your civil complaint."


Oct 19, 2017 4:55 AM

[KiwiElf]

Your intuition serves you well, Turiya :) (as does this guy's)... ;) - The public is being "prepped" so they can deal with it when it all comes down

zziC-o5xumc

EDIT: NOTE - FOX are the only ones covering this atm, particularly Hannity - CNN is 100% BS but interesting to compare the spin - Deep State is getting desperate! ;)

[Tintin]

I'm about to do something that I really didn't imagine a few months ago having to do, ever. I'm putting this on record, really for me, but it is an act of consciousness, that is all.

Concerning Donald Trump: I am about to eat my words. (Fortunately for me they taste of steak, fried eggs and potatoes washed down with a small glass of red wine). I'd stated some pretty harsh things which I do now regret having said, at all, and I'm sorry.

I now find myself really rather more concerned for his safety; think that he should be given the proper opportunity to do the job that a larger number of Americans believe he could do; I now think he may have greater integrity than I gave him credit for. In short I now believe I was wrong. I may never ideallogically chime with him completely, but I do think that he genuinely wants to make a positive difference and would seem to be the target for very unreasonable bullying from his idealogical counterparts. I don't think that's fair, and now I find myself wishing him the best of luck. Boy, he's got some job on his hands.

TQ xx

Kudos to you TQ. It takes an honest, thinking and caring person to do what you just did.

Thank you. That's very kind. :highfive:

[Cidersomerset]

Alex breaks down some current information connected to the Saudi operations...

New Terror Attacks In US Coming

7wOUcslvwac
Streamed live 29 minutes ago

====================================================
====================================================


There is a plausible scenario that the US , UK , Saudi & Israel attack on Iran
could be on the cards. The Saudis have been bogged down in Yemen for the past
few years and this could all be part as Alex and others have been speculating.

The Trump WH is definitely pro Israel/Saudi and it is more likely to kick off
here than in North Korea the way things are going. Though Russia is the
elephant in the room will she stand by and watch Iran be attacked ?
Putin and Trump are supposed to be meeting on the Presidents trip to
Asia so it may not come to war though with ISIS on the run things could
get out of hand and increase tension......

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http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Saudis accuse Iran of 'direct aggression' over Yemen missile


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6KI4BuGuws
A Yemeni TV station released footage of what it claimed was a Riyadh-bound missile

Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has accused Iran of an act
of "direct military aggression" by supplying missiles to rebels in Yemen.

This "may be considered an act of war", state media quoted the prince as telling UK
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson in a telephone conversation.

On Saturday, a ballistic missile was intercepted near the Saudi capital.

Iran denies arming the Houthi movement, which has fought a Saudi-led coalition
backing Yemen's government since 2015.

Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said the prince's claim was "dangerous".

read more..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41899643

===================================================
Saudi Arabia blames Iran for missile attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3P7tk8DhXY
Published on 6 Nov 2017
Saudi Arabia has accused Iran of being responsible for Saturday's ballistic missile
launched from Yemen that targeted Riyadh airport, warning that it could
be “considered an act of war”.

===================================================

Updates On Saudi Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9GW3mhhxEQ
Published on 6 Nov 2017
Roger Stone provides updates on the developing situation in Saudi Arabia.

[KiwiElf]

A few more crumbs to investigate... :sherlock:

1. How many FBI agents checked into the Mandalay the night before the shooting?
2. What aircraft "of interest" landed at McCarran Airport?
3. How does Sheldon Adelson fit into this? Who did he meet with?

[KiwiElf]

Alex breaks down some current information connected to the Saudi operations...

New Terror Attacks In US Coming

7wOUcslvwac

Streamed live 29 minutes ago

Yes... and they could be quite massive IF successful - "they" are not going down without a fight

Also keep an eye on new activity in NK (WHERE is BO?)

[Harley]

Was Las Vegas a Saudi Crown Prince Salman Assassination Attempt? (http://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/07/las-vegas-saudi-crown-prince-salman-assassination-attempt/)

Nov 7, 2017

http://americandigitalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Crown-Prince-Salman.png
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23380274_10159736867515492_3017106811057638653_n.j pg?oh=5b739abebf8bab276785c31b73677b62&oe=5AAC1888
Credit to Nancy Kennedy for providing the missing link. (un-vetted information from 4chan)

Was Las Vegas a COUP Assassination Attempt Cover UP Gone Wrong?

CREDIT TO: JoAnne Moretti – Proof Negative Radio Show: REAL Patriot News 11/6/17 (Archive Link) starts at 1hr 41 min into broadcast

Last night, I was on radio discussing the Las Vegas shooting and the connection to what is happening in Saudi Arabia.
They are connected.
I’ll start at the beginning.
There was a King Fasal who had a son, Prince Alwaleed, bin Talal.
King Fasal took ill and named his brother Salman as king in his place.
King Salman has named his son an heir to the throne, instead of his brother’s son Prince Al Waleed.
Al Waleed is a Wahabbi. Salman is Suni.
Wahabbi is extreme Islam.
Salman wanted a more modern, non extreme Islam for Saudi. That’s why he named his own son as heir.
In Las Vegas, Prince Al Waleed owned the upper floors of the Mandalay Bay resort, including the 32nd floor that was one of the points of shooting at the strip.
I say one of the places, because the witnesses were all correct. There were other locations too.
The Mandalay Bay has a heli-pad on the roof. That is important, because that was the escape route after the carnage.
Paddock was a pilot. He was also a gun runner between the Philippines and the US.
He was running guns for Prince Al Waleed.
He didn’t win at the casino. Those millions came from smuggling.
On the night of the attack, I found out that King Salman was in Las Vegas. (I didn’t know that part until after the show and I received a missing piece of info.
Salman was at the Tropicana.

Paddock was victim one.
Others were used to shoot at the country music venue.
That was to create chaos and distract from the real target over at the Tropicana.
Al Waleed’s assassins shot from Mandalay bay, but they also were at the Tropicana trying to kill Salman.
That explains why there were shooters on the ground as well as in the air.
Remember the videos of the helicopter fly over.
I asked why a helicopter would be there when there was a shooter high up.
It wasn’t news, or cops.
It was the assassins who ran up the stairs to the roof from the 32nd floor.
Remember they sealed the door to the stairwell?
Paddock had access to the service elevator, because the boss said he could use the elevator.
Nobody questioned him.
Meanwhile the assassination attempt on Salman failed.
Now we are seeing the result of the failed attempt.
It was not only an assassination attempt and a terror attack, but an attempted coup in Saudi.
This is why everyone shut up in Las Vegas.
The response is still ongoing.
You are watching it play out.
As I said, I spoke on air about this.
I will post links in comments to prove my story.
Las Vegas was definitely a terror attack.
Al Waleed, the owner of the suite was who is behind all of it.
All the witnesses citing multiple shooters all told the truth.
There were shootouts along the strip and in Mandalay Bay & Tropicana hotels.
The reason nobody is talking is it’s not over yet.

There is a perfect helipad at the top of the Mandalay, right at the hub.
Here is a pic from Google Earth.
http://americandigitalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/MB-Helo-pad-300x169.jpg

http://americandigitalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sa5.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muID8T43Mk

[sllim11]

wow harley. best post ever i think!

lets hope it pans out!

[mountain_jim]

wow harley. best post ever i think!

lets hope it pans out!

I agree. Finally something/someone that appears knowledgeable and makes sense. If that is the Prince in that video, so much adds up.

[Tintin]

For continuity's sake here's Jake's Part 3 on the Saudi Purge. This is a kind of stop-gap video, by his own admission, but with some interesting House of Saud background:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umxs6Do8TwU

[Hervé]

To provide some more context to Harley's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189573&viewfull=1#post1189573) above:

The inside story of the Saudi night of long knives (http://thesaker.is/the-inside-story-of-the-saudi-night-of-long-knives/)

by Pepe Escobar for the Asia Times (http://www.atimes.com/article/inside-story-saudi-night-long-knives/) (posted by special arrangement) November 06, 2017 50 Comments (http://thesaker.is/the-inside-story-of-the-saudi-night-of-long-knives/#comments)

Princes, ministers and a billionaire are ‘imprisoned’ in the Riyadh Ritz-Carlton while the Saudi Arabian Army is said to be in an uproar

The House of Saud’s King Salman devises a high-powered “anti-corruption” commission and appoints his son, Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman, a.k.a. MBS, as chairman.

Right on cue, the commission detains 11 House of Saud princes, four current ministers and dozens of former princes/cabinet secretaries – all charged with corruption. Hefty bank accounts are frozen, private jets are grounded. The high-profile accused lot is “jailed” at the Riyadh Ritz-Carlton.

War breaks out within the House of Saud, as Asia Times had anticipated (http://www.atimes.com/article/coup-house-saud/) back in July. Rumors have been swirling for months about a coup against MBS in the making. Instead, what just happened is yet another MBS pre-emptive coup.

A top Middle East business/investment source who has been doing deals for decades with the opaque House of Saud offers much-needed perspective:
“This is more serious than it appears. The arrest of the two sons of previous King Abdullah, Princes Miteb and Turki, was a fatal mistake. This now endangers the King himself. It was only the regard for the King that protected MBS. There are many left in the army against MBS and they are enraged at the arrest of their commanders.”
To say the Saudi Arabian Army is in uproar is an understatement. “He’d have to arrest the whole army before he could feel secure.”

Prince Miteb until recently was a serious contender to the Saudi throne. But the highest profile among the detainees belongs to billionaire Prince al-Waleed Bin Talal, owner of Kingdom Holdings, major shareholder in Twitter, CitiBank, Four Seasons, Lyft and, until recently, Rupert Murdoch’s Newscorp.

Al-Waleed’s arrest ties up with a key angle: total information control. There’s no freedom of information in Saudi Arabia. MBS already controls all the internal media (as well as the appointment of governorships). But then there’s Saudi media at large. MBS aims (http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2017/11/what-is-happening-in-saudi-arabia-ritz.html) to “hold the keys to all the large media empires and relocate them to Saudi Arabia.”

So how did we get here?

[...]

Full article: http://thesaker.is/the-inside-story-of-the-saudi-night-of-long-knives/

[Hervé]

Of course, guess who started the whole "Chessboard"...

How British Zionism created both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Israel (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/01/zionism-kingdom-arabia)

Nu'man Abd al-Wahid Mondoweiss (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/01/zionism-kingdom-arabia)
Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:26 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s14/294176/large/wpid_ibn_saud_jpg.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s14/294176/full/wpid_ibn_saud_jpg.jpg)
Abdel Aziz Ibn Saud with Sir Percy Cox.

The covert alliance between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Zionist entity of Israel should be no surprise to any student of British imperialism. The problem is the study of British imperialism has very few students. Indeed, one can peruse any undergraduate or post-graduate British university prospectus and rarely find a module in a Politics degree on the British Empire let alone a dedicated degree or Masters degree. Of course if the European-led imperialist carnage in the four years between 1914 - 1918 tickles your cerebral cells then it's not too difficult to find an appropriate institution to teach this subject, but if you would like to delve into how and why the British Empire waged war on mankind for almost four hundred years you're practically on your own in this endeavor. One must admit, that from the British establishment's perspective, this is a formidable and remarkable achievement.

In late 2014, according to the American journal, Foreign Affairs (https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foreignaffairs.com%2Farticles%2Fmiddle-east%2F2015-03-13%2Frivals-benefits&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEOs3gONT2NhYtKNsjzObLOZEJPww), the Saudi petroleum Minister Ali al-Naimi is reported to have said "His Majesty King Abdullah has always been a model for good relations between Saudi Arabia and other states, and the Jewish state is no exception." Recently, Abdullah's successor, King Salman expressed similar concerns to those of Israel's to the growing agreement between the United States and Iran over the latter's nuclear program. This led some to report that Israel and KSA presented a "united front (http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworldnews%2Fmiddleeast%2Firan%2F11739349%2FIsrael-and-Saudi-Arabia-present-united-front-over-Iran-deal.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEbJslqEPeW6Gpe8Swcl9l-UZrX4w)" in their opposition to the nuclear deal. This was not the first time the Zionists and Saudis have found themselves in the same corner in dealing with a perceived common foe. In North Yemen in the 1960s, the Saudis were financing a British imperialist-led mercenary army campaign against revolutionary republicans who had assumed authority after overthrowing the authoritarian, Imam. Gamal Abdul-Nasser's Egypt militarily backed the republicans, while the British induced the Saudis to finance and arm the remaining remnants of the Imam's supporters. Furthermore, the British organized the Israelis to drop arms for the British proxies in North Yemen, 14 times (https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foreignaffairs.com%2Farticles%2Fmiddle-east%2F2015-03-13%2Frivals-benefits&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEOs3gONT2NhYtKNsjzObLOZEJPww). The British, in effect, militarily but covertly, brought the Zionists and Saudis together in 1960s North Yemen against their common foe.

[...]

Full article: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/01/zionism-kingdom-arabia/

[The Moss Trooper]

Machine-gun fire coming from a helicopter over the festival site in Vegas?

F35j6DlizvY

Seems to be. Video still up and fresh, save it while you can.

[TrumanCash]

Machine-gun fire coming from a helicopter over the festival site in Vegas?

F35j6DlizvY

Seems to be. Video still up and fresh, save it while you can.

I compared this video with a satellite map and it appears to be videoed from the Panorama Towers north of Mandalay and on the other side of the freeway from the Aria. Depth perception is not easy to be discerned but it appears to me that the helicopter first flies toward the concert area and then does a 180 toward the Tropicana which is not visible due to NY,NY casino blocking that view.

I am not yet convinced that it is gun flashes from the lower front (skids?) of the helicopter. Has anyone done some credible research to see if that strobing light is actual gun fire or just a strobing light for safety?

It appears to me that the other strobing light is on the tail rotor, apparently for safety reasons.

The lower front strobing light (or gun flashes?) is also visible on the helicopter in Harley's post 901 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189573&viewfull=1#post1189573) above (lower video) flying by the Mandalay Bay casino.

[turiya]

I've been taken in before by the strobelight effects coming from the fourth floor window of the Mandalay Bay.

One point of interest... it has to do with the audio. Clearly one can hear the approaching siren on the police / emergency vehicle, that soon passes into view on the street below... However, there are no gunfire sounds - explosive-like pops - that would be coming from the flashes... I would take it as another strobelight visual. That's my take / opinion on what the flashes are.... night flying safety lights.

[Cidersomerset]

If LV was an assassination attempt it would make sense and this could be
retribution , they do not go there in this report but Pepe Escobar is saying
that the Prince is getting rid of any rivals...

Ref to Hitler moved against the SA and its leader, Ernst Röhm,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

==================================================

Inside story of Saudi night of long knives - Pepe Escobar on detained royals

vdL9j5R2fCI

Published on 8 Nov 2017
11 princes, 4 ministers and many ex-ministers were detained by the Saudi
anti-corruption body. The US president's expressed his approval for the
controversial move - despite the fact one of his former business partners
was reportedly among those detained. Independent geopolitical analyst
Pepe Escobar joins RT to discuss this issue.

====================================================

We’re on the brink of war between Saudi Arabia & Lebanon ‒ scholar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxa97BeRsfs
Published on 7 Nov 2017
Saudi Arabia is in the midst of a purge of its princes and ministers. At the same
time, Riyadh has accused Lebanon of a declaration of war, saying Hezbollah fired a
missile at the kingdom’s capital. Ali Al-Ahmed, director of the Institute of Gulf
Affairs, tells RT America’s Anya Parampil that the Saudis are planning something.

====================================================


Saudi elites detained in Ritz Carlton after arrests on corruption charges

CBS News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTX4LFNoItc
Published on 8 Nov 2017
New video shows some of the richest and most powerful people in Saudi Arabia
sleeping on cots in the lavish Ritz Carlton hotel. The hotel is being used to detain
people, including military officers and members of the royal family, who've been
arrested on corruption charges.

===================================================

Alex was waffling in this segment but did say something relevant which he
does not name but maybe Zak ? who was posted earlier . I do not know this
but how Alex said his info matched the callers it sounds like Zak to me...


BREAKING: Infowars Source Taken Into FBI Custody For Revealing Deep State Secrets

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Published on 8 Nov 2017
Alex Jones reveals that a long time caller and source was taken into FBI custody for
what he revealed to Jones on air.

[Cidersomerset]

Of course, guess who started the whole "Chessboard"...
How British Zionism created both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Israel


As Rome was to Ancient Greece the US is an extension of the British empire
via the Rothchild's and other elite families ....

Its a 100 years since Lord Balfour set in motion the events
that have effected the Middle East ever since. David explains
his take on the history of the document and its consequences.


The Balfour Declaration: What Really Happened -
The David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast


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Published on 3 Nov 2017

[avid]

Sadly, Cider, sharing the logic from David is so much rejected, it actually ‘tars you with a negativ brush’ STILL..., but I really want to share, as it all makes so much sense to me after all these years. Thank you David,we will try to circumnavigate the negativity, much appreciated for all of his research.

[Cidersomerset]

Sadly, Cider, sharing the logic from David is so much rejected, it actually ‘tars you with a negativ brush’ STILL...,
but I really want to share, as it all makes so much sense to me after all these years. Thank you David,we will try to
circumnavigate the negativity, much appreciated for all of his research.

David's on top form and still continuing his on going events through 2016/17/18
he's one of the best researcher/journalist of his genre imo and will be recognised
as a ground breaker in years to come even by mainstream historians....:highfive:


Yet another book..."Everything You Need to Know" - Available Now - David Icke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ZMBEl6ieI

David Icke Talks To Slovakian Media About Current World Events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAMjgWt7cWA
Published on 6 Nov 2017

[ThePythonicCow]

the Tropicana which is not visible due to NY,NY casino
My guess (not a careful study) was that the Tropicana was the white building, visible on the right edge of the view, at the skyline, in the opening frames and some later frames. From the camera's viewpoint, the Luxor (black pyramid with capstone light) is to right of the Tropicana, and the NY, NY is visible to the left of the Tropicana.

[Bill Ryan]

BREAKING: Infowars Source Taken Into FBI Custody For Revealing Deep State Secrets

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Published on 8 Nov 2017
Alex Jones reveals that a long time caller and source was taken into FBI custody for
what he revealed to Jones on air.

:bump:

Go to 1:25 in the video for the start of the segment. Important.

Long-time caller and inside source, Zachary ('Zach'), now retired but who served in military intelligence, and who has now been taken in by the FBI, had presented Infowars listeners with a bunch of solid information about Las Vegas, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen that matches Alex's own (withheld) inside info.

[TrumanCash]

the Tropicana which is not visible due to NY,NY casino
My guess (not a careful study) was that the Tropicana was the white building, visible on the right edge of the view, at the skyline, in the opening frames and some later frames. From the camera's viewpoint, the Luxor (black pyramid with capstone light) is to right of the Tropicana, and the NY, NY is visible to the left of the Tropicana.

It appears to me that the white building you are referring to is the Excalibur. Check it out. The Tropicana (Paradise tower next to Las Vegas Blvd) is faintly visible next to and behind the right side of NY,NY. You can see the northwest end of that tower; it is across the big intersection on the strip where shooting and bodies were reported.

You can see it better from this helicopter ride from about the same angle at 3:27 of the video.

You can also see what appears to be a slow moving helicopter coming from the right, about mid-screen and it has two lights, for and aft, at 3:20 of this video. It appears to be by the airport and seems to be too slow for an airplane. I am still reviewing videos to see what the helicopter lights look like at night in Vegas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzkLJTl1zpI

[Cidersomerset]

Wow ....Alex in breakdown mode a bit raw and I expect he will clean
it up in a later report but he does connect many current dots and
says Devin Kelley was probably used by the deep state....

Infowars Source Detained By FBI For Warning Of Terror Attack

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Published on 8 Nov 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how Zach, a longtime caller to Infowars, has
been detained by the FBI for leaking information from within the deep
state on yesterday's live broadcast.

[KiwiElf]

Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

[ThePythonicCow]

It appears to me that the white building you are referring to is the Excalibur.
Yeah - I suspect you're right.

[ThePythonicCow]

Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

Good work - Interesting reading. Thanks!

(You caused the ProjectAvalon.net server to be unusable for an extra half hour this morning (in the outage discussed in this members-only thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100488-Server-Busy-2017-11-08-AKA-Nov.-8-2017)). I was distracted reading a preliminary version of this smartsheet that you ran by us moderators, when I was supposed to be fixing the server. <grin>.)

[KiwiElf]

Oops sorry Paul! ;) Well, I hope this posting doesn't cause any more outages! It's been crossposted on 5 x other related threads as it covers important info across those subject areas.

One of the key points in the Las Vegas Shooting is that the POTUS was an intended assassination target

[bluestflame]

so makes sense the saudi king was there to MEET somebody

[Cidersomerset]

Why The Purge In Saudi Could Be Good For America

-SkMNDw4ohI

Published on 8 Nov 2017
Roger Stone talks about the potential positive effects
of the current political purges in Saudi Arabia.

http://media.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/photo/us-saudi-bush-abdullahjpg-87e60952a59fc870_large.jpg

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Alex connects dots confirms Zak was picked up by the FBI , he also goes
over the current geo - political situation in the middle east and confirms
this is part of Trump conflict with the globalist/deepstate agenda ....

Emergency Alert! Deep State Preparing To Launch Yemeni Terrorist Attacks In The US

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Published on 8 Nov 2017

[turiya]

Wow ....Alex in breakdown mode a bit raw and I expect he will clean
it up in a later report but he does connect many current dots and
says Devin Kelley was probably used by the deep state....

David Hawkins of Abel Danger would tend to agree with this...


David Hawkins of Abel Danger on
Serco, Holloman AFB & Devin Kelley
(11/06/2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMblIEpFkk

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Wow ....Alex in breakdown mode a bit raw and I expect he will clean
it up in a later report but he does connect many current dots and
says Devin Kelley was probably used by the deep state....


David Hawkins of Abel Danger would tend to agree with this...


Its definitely a classic intel/CIA or who ever distraction play as
Las Vegas was dying down in the mainstream except for Fox and
now that is dead as the media cycle moves on . NY did not
stop it but Texas seems to have apart from the alternate media.

[Tintin]

Here's I think a slightly better newer take on my earlier post #847 on page 43 that tackles the shooter on the RV. If ones eyes aren't playing the fool and this hasn't in any way been altered/manipulated to make the point, then, we may have something here that is quite concrete; more absolute evidence, captured, proving some of the eye-witness remarks about it feeling like someone was "in the crowd" - well, this could be as close as it gets, in lieu of any subsequent footage coming to light.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5IKvgu7fg

And this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-EoHYL0Kw

[Tintin]

Alex connects dots confirms Zak was picked up by the FBI , he also goes
over the current geo - political situation in the middle east and confirms
this is part of Trump conflict with the globalist/deepstate agenda ....

Emergency Alert! Deep State Preparing To Launch Yemeni Terrorist Attacks In The US

w4k-tagNkMQ

Published on 8 Nov 2017

Thanks Cider. Alex turns in one of his most compelling presentations here. Strength to him and his army of helpers with the critical information they are providing.

[Tintin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muID8T43Mk

Thanks Harley. I was going to post this up as well, but the server became busy as we know :clapping:

The rooftop 'flashes' do look pretty convincing I think.

[Hervé]

Here is the uninterrupted sequence for those of you interested of going through it frame by frame, etc... :


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HD RAW Helicopter Near Excalibur -- Vegas Shooting October 1, 2017 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/HD RAW Helicopter Near Excalibur -- Vegas Shooting October 1, 2017 5,752 views 34 3 Share Adam Danischewski Published on Oct 18, 2017 High quality RAW HD Video shot from in front of the Excalibur on October 1st, 2017 - shows a helicopter inexplicably flying low between the Mandalay Bay and Excalibur with its anti-collision and possibly a landing light or spotlight flashing on/strobing - for no reason)

https://yt3.ggpht.com/-eBK4wf77P84/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/wykzGsHMPbc/s88-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM1SXFPYH_VnBvdu92188HA) Adam Danischewski (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM1SXFPYH_VnBvdu92188HA) Published on Oct 18, 2017

High quality RAW HD Video shot from in front of the Excalibur on October 1st, 2017 - shows a helicopter inexplicably flying low between the Mandalay Bay and Excalibur with its anti-collision and possibly a landing light or spotlight flashing on/strobing - for no reason?



Of course, keep in mind the Flight Radar data with choppers switching off their transponders:


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[turiya]

Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

Yo! KiwiElf! Have a look at this latest SGT video.... it distinctly resembles the information that was provided in the link you placed in Post #918 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189674&viewfull=1#post1189674)...


YOU'RE ABOUT TO WITNESS WHAT WAS
AN IMPOSSIBILITY JUST ONE YEAR AGO
(Nov 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moO9dfYHrZA

[turiya]

Latest from Abel Danger... This seemingly backs up the story regarding Harley's Post #901 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189573&viewfull=1#post1189573) the Sheik's attempted assassination attempt with his rapid departure from the Tropicana...

ABEL DANGER


Gunfight at the O.K. Las Vegas (http://www.abeldanger.org/gunfight-at-the-o-k-las-vegas/)

November 9, 2017 (http://www.abeldanger.org/gunfight-at-the-o-k-las-vegas/)

http://www.abeldanger.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-09-at-10.13.06-AM-523x280.png

The Vegas Shooting And The Saudi Connection

Source: Reddit Conspiracy (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7b1kzk/the_las_vegas_shooting_and_the_mass_arrests_in/)
November 7, 2017

People of Interest:
(This list is a bit hard to follow because of the long names. This chart : http://www.businessinsider.com/a-whos-who-of-the-saudi-royal-family-2015-2 (http://www.businessinsider.com/a-whos-who-of-the-saudi-royal-family-2015-2) will help readers following these circumstances clarify who is who.)


http://media.alalam.ir/news/image/original//2016/07/12/alalam_636039417611704558_25f_4x3.jpg (http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/54cf7a336da8117a11eecfad-960/saudi%20royal%20family%20chart.png)
(Click for Larger Image)



• King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud (King Saud. Deceased): King of Saudi Arabia (1932-1953)
• King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Deceased): 5th son of King Saud. King of Saudi Arabia until his death in 2015. Successor is King Salman
• Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Henceforth King Salman): Current King of Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA). 8th son of deceased King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud.
• Mohammad bin Salman (Henceforth Crown Prince Mohammad): Son of King Salman. Currently next in line to be king after King Salman.
• Muqrin bin Abdulaziz (Former Deputy Crown Prince. Henceforth Muqrin): 9th son of deceased King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud. Was next in line to be king if King Salman had died before being crowned king. IS THE FATHER OF Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. The man killed in the helicopter crash on November 5, 2017.
• Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Henceforth Mansour): Son of Muqrin bin Abdulaziz. Died 11/5/2017, the day of the failed coup on the throne of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
• Alwaleed bin Talal (Henceforth Talal): Billionaire businessmen. Grandson of King Saud. Has ties to Democratic National Committee (DNC), Hillary Clinton and Podesta. Arrested 11/4/2017 for corruption. Owns The Four Seasons at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas (Four Seasons occupy the top floors of Mandalay Bay). Owns shares in Twitter as well as other high-tech silicon valley companies. Has had spats with Trump in the past.

I know that’s a mouthful of names, but bear with me. Just remember 4 names: Salman, Mohammad, Muqrin, and Mansour.

Do you remember how President Trump visited Saudi Arabia back in May of 2017 (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/trump-arrives-saudi-arabia-foreign-trip-170520063253596.html)? Do you remember how warmly he was greeted by King Salman? I do. It was a spectacle. Why was he greeted so welcomingly? After all, President Obama’s reception was… shall we say, less than grand. Do you remember how after Trump’s visit, Saudi Arabia started becoming more open in their policies? Women can drive there now. Did you notice how the Syrian rebellion became quiet? Did you notice how quickly ISIS was crushed after the visit? Why did Saudi Arabia suddenly want to get their oil companies listed on the NYSE? What could have caused this?

To answer this, we have to look a little further back. Back to around 2010.

It all goes back to fracking. You see, the Kindom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) has always relied heavily on its vast petrol reserves for wealth and prosperity. And they were ruthless. OPEC. The cartel of gasoline. You can’t count the number of times throughout history that OPEC used its power to crush governments, manipulate prices, control supplies, and fund activities. If there ever was a international group of bullies, OPEC was it. And at the head of this organisation was the mighty KSA.

Then came the fracking boom. Suddenly, the world was no longer at the mercy of OPEC. This made them nervous. So, they did what they always do. They pumped out more petroleum, driving the price of gas to lowest in decades. What was their objective? To bankrupt these fracking businesses. KSA is rich. Very rich. They figured, we’ll just drive gas prices unbelievably low and take the loss until all these fracking business startups crumble. Do you remember how cheap gas got between 2013-2016? It was ridiculous, wasn’t it? But what they didn’t count on was just how cheap fracking had become. So many of these business didn’t go bankrupt. So they took another step. To convince the world that fracking was bad for the environment. So they lobbied and supplied funds to the Democratic party. Why? Because the leftist are usually the ones who support ANY and ALL environmental regulations. Do you remember all the legal battles that fracking had to go through? Hell, it’s still illegal in most blue states. Do you now understand why the Saudis donated so much money to the Clinton campaign? She was HEAVILY favoured to win and if she did, you can bet your ass that by making fracking illegal would have been on the top of Clinton’s list. This would have returned the US to dependence on Saudi oil. But…this didn’t work either. Fracking continued. And then, a sh!t storm of reality hit them hard.

You see, KSA had vastly underestimated the amount of total shale reserves in North America. They had no idea that so much of this stuff exists. They thought maybe they could ride it out if the reserves would dry up in a decade or so. But nope. We have enough shale to supply us for at least 50 years. Hmmm…big problem.

So, if you’re King Salman, what do you do? Well, there’s only one thing you can do. Give up the reliance on oil production and try to use existing wealth to stay wealthy. To modernize its trade to include more than just exports of oil. They would need to build an entire industrial country from scratch. To do that, he needed the help of the USA. And that’s where President Trump comes in.

You see, the May 2017 meeting between Trump and King Salman (and his son Mohammad), was not just another meeting. It was a business meeting. King Salman asked Trump for help. Trump was more than willing to give it (like listing the oil companies on the NYSE) but his help would come with a price. Liberalisation and the stop of illegal funding. No more contributions to American politics. No more supplying funds to terrorists or splinter groups. King Salman took the deal. All of a sudden, women were allowed to drive. ISIS was retreating. Syrian rebels suddenly ran out of ammunition. Yay. All good up to this point.

Now comes the bad
Not all the royalties in KSA are into this. They don’t like losing the power they once had. What’s worse, they don’t want to become liberal. They now start resenting King Salmon. They start plotting against him. At the forefront of this movement is none other than the previous Deputy Crown Prince, Muqrin, and his son, Mansour (the man killed in the helicopter crash of 11/5/17).

October 1, 2017: The top floors of Mandalay Bay isn’t Mandalay Bay, but is Four Seasons, owned by billionaire Talal. Who was occupying that whole floor that night? I can’t remember where, but I heard that the whole floor was reserved for that week. Now, no one would do that unless they were Saudi royalty. We don’t know for sure, but my guess is Crown Prince Mohammad. We know it wasn’t King Salman, because he was in Russia at the time. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/05/saudi-russia-visit-putin-oil-middle-east

The plan is to take out the crown prince. Then kill King Salman. With the King and the Crown Prince dead, who is next in line? Yup. The former deputy crown prince, Muqrin. So, posing as terrorists who wanted to buy the guns for some terrorist attack, they dupe the CIA or FBI to supply the guns to the death squad. Their real plan is to climb the stairs right after the deal and kill the VIP in the floors above them. This is why the weapons cashe was located on the 32nd floor. They would only have to climb a few stairs or take the elevator up a little to start the killing. Now, here’s what happened that night:

** With the post from u/kneejerk55, I have modified the events of the night. I think it fits much better**

Paddock is the contact man to supply the guns. He meets a couple of assassins ahead of time (remember, the shooting starts at 10:05). At this point, Paddock is thinking this is a gun deal. Only a few magazines are loaded. He merely wants to show the customers how to load the chamber etc… What he doesn’t know is that the advance team was sent to secure the floor. That all but one entry point to the floor would be barricaded (crucial since the reason Campos becomes suspicious of the blocked doors is what ultimately leads him to investigate) The reason for the barricade is that once the assault starts, the assassins want to make sure to impede the authorities as much as possible from reaching the top floors.

CIA/FBI (or Trump’s own intelligence) got wind of the assassination that was about to take place. Immediate action is taken to round up the assassins. Remember, we’re talking about an army of assassins here. You can’t kill a Crown Prince who’s protected by 30 armed bodyguards by pulling a Jack Ruby. I estimate at least 20 assassins in total.

What the assassins didn’t know was that the prince had disguised himself as a regular dude to enjoy the nightlife in Vegas. (Saudi princes have been known to do this) He had slipped away from the Mandalay and was at the Tropicana playing some cards. As soon as the FBI (or some other agency) learned of the assassination plot, they stormed the Tropicana and extracted the prince. The video can be seen here.


During Las Vegas Shooting WHO is this guy
being escorted out of the Tropicana #DNN


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVHmshtmDqo

They lead him out of the casino and escort him to the nearest helipad to be picked up. BUT, on the way, they encounter some resistance from a few assassins. Hence the firefight at the airport. Eventually, he makes it to the chopper and is whisked away. This explains the flight radar reports you see all over the net.

Meanwhile, the FBI has gathered up as many of the assassins as they can. A few are armed with sidearms. They don’t have rifles yet because the rendezvous with Paddock hasn’t occurred yet. Hence the random firefights at various casinos that night. A few are killed. Hence the Laura Loomer videos of covered up dead people.


Dead body in Mandalay Bay casino, Laura Loomer footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxAZIpSUuM

The assassins already in Paddock’s room gets a call. They are told that the Prince is not in his suite above. That he’s being escorted out of the Tropicana. They start panicking. If they get caught in this plot to assassinate the crown prince, not only are they dead, but their employer is dead as well. They come up with a plan. They will kill Paddock and start firing on the crowd below. They’re gonna make him a crazy lone gunman. So they kill Paddock. They break a window. They pick up a rifle and start firing at the crowd below. After a couple of mags, they realize that the other mags aren’t loaded! Holy f#ck. They start reloading as fast as possible. This is why the average time between bursts of fire is over 40 seconds. One of them gets an idea. Let me go to the other room and break that window and shoot at the fuel tanks at a nearby airport. This will draw the police away from the Mandalay and they can escape. So he goes and attempts just that. Unfortunately, the tanks do not blow up. By this time, Jesus Campos is knocking on the door. So they just unload on him. This is why there are (supposedly) 200 shots through the door. Campos escapes a lethal shot and calls in security.

Now the assassins are getting nervous. They realise that someone in the hotel knows that someone is firing. They fire as much as they can. They are thinking as soon as this barrage is done, we run. But the swat team starts knocking on the door. F*CK! The assassins realise they’re screwed. So the first one shoots himself. (This is the first of the single shots you hear at the end). The second assassin isn’t so sure. He doesn’t want to die. So after 10 seconds of courage gathering, he shoots himself as well.

The SWAT team bursts in and finds 3 bodies. They start asking questions. But because the FBI is already there (remember, they extracted the prince) they take over. They quickly assess the situation. They realise the implications. They remove the 2 assassins bodies, take a picture of Paddock lying there, and release it to 4chan to solidify their narrative.

Paddock is made the patsy. Why? Because if a failed Saudi assassination attempt was responsible for the deaths, if the FBI/CIA had supplied the guns that killed 58 innocent people (not counting Paddock since he’s an asset), then two things would happen. One, we would demand that we go to war with Saudi Arabia. And two, which ever organisation that Paddock worked for would be utterly dismantled.

Whew lads, I know. Quite a story. Now, let’s fast forward to one month later.

We know a missile was intercepted by the Saudi military (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-missiles/saudi-arabia-says-it-intercepts-missile-close-to-capital-idUSKBN1D40TD) on November 3rd or 4th. This was probably the final effort by the anti King Salman group. This was their last ditch effort to kill him. OR, it was staged to give King Salman the excuse to round everyone up in retaliation of the assassination attempt. We know that MASSIVE raids and the rounding of Saudi princes took place on the 5th. I will guarantee you that all these people are anti Salman/Mohammad. And who was just killed? Yes. The son of Muqrin, Mansour. Mansour’s death was retaliation. I have no doubt of it. He was executed.

Ok, now that this has happened, what’s next? Well, my guess will be that we will learn all of the funding that has been coming out of Saudi Arabia for the past decade. It will expose their connections to the DNC. We will learn that they have been at the root of all the turmoil in the Middle East. Then, they’ll all be executed.

Do I win the award for the longest post ever at /r/conspiracy? Thanks for reading.

PS The story works just fine with Paddock as a private illegal guns dealer, meaning the FBI/CIA only helped to foil the assassination attempt. He doesn’t have to be working for an alphabet agency. However, given the clues from his life style (or the utter lack of it), I’m betting that he was an asset.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV_2AIzU8AAhMrh.jpg:large

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/10/18/3A3E3EBE00000578-0-image-a-12_1478802020918.jpg (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/675523728055410689?lang=en)

Prince Alwaleed Talal arrested.
Linked to Las Vegas Shooting?
(Nov 4, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVecfnMRrfs

Las Vegas Shooting Flight Radar Data
(Nov 2, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iBul1OpYvY

Abel Danger (http://www.abeldanger.org/gunfight-at-the-o-k-las-vegas/)

[Nasu]

Thanks for posting this interesting take about the Saudi Royals and potential assassination gone bad turiya.

To my mind this story is a complicated dot connection that makes no sense. Perhaps there was ALSO an attempt on foreign royalty that night, but that narrative still does not explain some key inexplicables.

Namely the od behavior of the only witness, the security guard Jesus Campos going down to Mexico for a week and driving back after suffering a gunshot to the leg.

Or that he was photographed getting an award for bravery in a restaurant on the 10th that had been remodeled back in may of this year!

Or the 4chan anonymous warning of a month previous about the move to beef up security for the benefit of the metal detector and back-scatter companies.

Or the warning to the crowd by the Mexican couple that everyone would die forty five minutes before the shooting.

Or that the CEO of MGM sold off 80% of his own personal stock in the company for $10 million dollars prior to the attacks.

Or for that matter that just this past August George Soros peered into his crystal ball like Sauron and saw that it was a great time to bet against MGM's stock to the tune of $42 million dollars in put options. The "Mandalay Bay" Las Vegas shooting happened and he made a killing...

So no, I don't buy the bungled Saudi royal assassination connection.... N

[Helene West]

I am simply blown away by the above post #931. I have no way of being sure but this resonates as truth particularly in light of the 'purge' and the way the authorities have dropped discussion.

How do we convey all this incredible info to the people around us? My family is sharply divided right/left with a sprinkling of center but even those on the so-called right wouldn't read an article this long if any of it.

It's like Avalonians are Annie Sullivans in a world of Helen Kellers.

[TargeT]

Thanks for posting this interesting take about the Saudi Royals and potential assassination gone bad turiya.

To my mind this story is a complicated dot connection that makes no sense. Perhaps there was ALSO an attempt on foreign royalty that night, but that narrative still does not explain some key inexplicables.

Namely the od behavior of the only witness, the security guard Jesus Campos going down to Mexico for a week and driving back after suffering a gunshot to the leg.

Or that he was photographed getting an award for bravery in a restaurant on the 10th that had been remodeled back in may of this year!

Or the 4chan anonymous warning of a month previous about the move to beef up security for the benefit of the metal detector and back-scatter companies.

Or the warning to the crowd by the Mexican couple that everyone would die forty five minutes before the shooting.

Or that the CEO of MGM sold off 80% of his own personal stock for $10 million in the company prior to the attacks.

Or for that matter that just this past August George Soros peered into his crystal ball like Sauron and saw that it was a great time to bet against MGM's stock to the tune of 42 million in put options. The "Mandalay Bay" Las Vegas shooting happened and he made a killing...

So no, I don't buy the bungled Saudi royal assassination connection.... N

All this fits in the same shoe box for me, 9/11 had multiple side "benefits" for TPTB as well as some bizarre individual actions etc....
Really, I was thinking this all might fit "too well", I cannot think of another reason that there would be so many shooters in vegas and the timing with "the purge" in SA is spot on as well.. I'd like to see some more clear video of the prince, or the king present.. it's supposed to be MBS that's there right? if so that would fit as well (the purge is his orchestration).

[Cidersomerset]

David Knight gives his take on the Saudi crisis....vision 20/30 , he does not
mention LV , but still interesting.

Saudi Game of Thrones: Risk to Dollar & Peace

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Published on 8 Nov 2017
It's not merely an internal civil war — the power struggle in Saudi Arabia could affect
the Petrodollar, the basis of the US economy, and lead to war for regime changes
throughout the Middle East as a leaked cable between Israel & Saudi Arabia pushes
for war against Iran & Lebanon.

Timing : or just coincidence ?

CIA releases trove of Usama bin Laden documents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7iHoEpmrk
Published on 1 Nov 2017
The files reveal the terror leader was prone to conspiracy theories and outlines Al
Qaeda's complicated relationship with Iran; Jennifer Griffin reports on 'Special Report.'

[mountain_jim]

I agree with Nasu to a point, this version does not complete the puzzle, but if that's the prince being escorted out its likely a part of it.

But this mass shooting was no sudden decision in my view, and there were multiple shooters who had guns not from Paddock shooting from other pre-planned locations. I suspect other organizations were involved.

Clearly the FBI is hiding a lot, maybe more than just their gun-running op. That FBI minder for the police at the press conferences felt evil to me.

[Cidersomerset]

This is interesting with a good history of recent false flag events with photos
he is not going down the route we are but worth a watch if you are looking for
something or for people looking in not as far down the hole as we are...

He points out symbolism everywhere in the false flags and compare events ,
he say Las Vegas is very confusing and calls it a hybrid event real and crisis
actors. He does show some good info about a local helicopter firm that has
military type choppers fitted with machine guns and more.....

https://gunshipvegas.com/


OLE DAMMEGARD: LATEST UPDATE ON VEGAS

rDGMMa0WMFg

Streamed live 23 hours ago...8th Nov 2017
OLE DAMMEGARD investigator will give us the latest update on the Vegas shooting.

THIS SHOW WAS CUT OFF NEAR THE END AND OLE WAS KNOCKED OFF THE
INTERNET AND MY SITE HAS BEEN HACKED AND TAKEN DOWN!!!!!!!

Go here for Ole's site and books: https://www.lightonconspiracies.com/

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Ole talks about you can rent almost anything crowds, funerals, crisis actors
mercenaries , which reminds me a great BBC doc from around 2004

" Even Bin Ladens displays of force were fake "...Rented gunman for the day.

5fjzzgzZJns
There's no such thing as al Qaeda, or al Qaida, or however you want to spell it.
It's a fraud perpetrated on the American people by our own government to
scare us into submission. This is a clip from the excellent three-part BBC
documentary "The Power of Nightmares".

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84791-Afghan-Opium-Harvesting-Protected-by-British-American-Occupation-Forces-2014-the-largest-Opium-crop-in-History.&p=992601&viewfull=1#post992601

[Bill Ryan]

the prince had disguised himself as a regular dude to enjoy the nightlife in Vegas. (Saudi princes have been known to do this) He had slipped away from the Mandalay and was at the Tropicana playing some cards. As soon as the FBI (or some other agency) learned of the assassination plot, they stormed the Tropicana and extracted the prince. The video can be seen here.

A very interesting idea. But a couple of comments here:


I think anyone in the military or security services reading this would confirm that a protected potential 'high-value' target would never be walking at the unprotected rear of an armed group escort. They'd be in the middle, with guards on all sides, and the guards at the rear would have been swiveling to check behind them frequently.



I know from direct personal experience with a member of a Middle Eastern Royal Family, quite a number of years ago, that they couldn't even go for a walk in their hotel grounds without being followed closely by security guards. If they went to a public place, even incognito, it would have been (a) a security nightmare, strongly discouraged, and (b) if the person had insisted — as they could — there would have been literally a small army (also in plain clothes) right beside them all the time. :)

[TargeT]

the prince had disguised himself as a regular dude to enjoy the nightlife in Vegas. (Saudi princes have been known to do this) He had slipped away from the Mandalay and was at the Tropicana playing some cards. As soon as the FBI (or some other agency) learned of the assassination plot, they stormed the Tropicana and extracted the prince. The video can be seen here.

A very interesting idea. But a couple of comments here:


I think anyone in the military or security services reading this would confirm that a protected potential 'high-value' target would never be walking at the unprotected rear of an armed group escort. They'd be in the middle, with guards on all sides, and the guards at the rear would have been swiveling to check behind them frequently.



I know from direct personal experience with a member of a Middle Eastern Royal Family, quite a number of years ago, that they couldn't even go for a walk in their hotel grounds without being followed closely by security guards. If they went to a public place, even incognito, it would have been (a) a security nightmare, strongly discouraged, and (b) if the person had insisted — as they could — there would have been literally a small army (also in plain clothes) right beside them all the time. :)


he definitely had 1 personal security guard with him (not saying this verifies anything); and the way they moved through that room is a pretty typical formation.. and one of the rear guys checked their "6" quite often (4 times in this video, that's more than once every 10 seconds)... it looked very feasible to me; you wouldn't want an army of security when your "blending with the peasants" but he certainly had at least 1 personal guard with him, walking to his left at the end of the video.

What I just saw was an ultra high priority escort, they were pointing their weapons at civilians and telling them to put their hands up... this is only done for a few types of people.

[Bill Ryan]

What I just saw was an ultra high priority escort, they were pointing their weapons at civilians and telling them to put their hands up... this is only done for a few types of people.

Thanks! I was hoping you'd reply. :)

:focus:

[TargeT]

What I just saw was an ultra high priority escort, they were pointing their weapons at civilians and telling them to put their hands up... this is only done for a few types of people.

Thanks! I was hoping you'd reply. :)

:focus:

I still don't think that's conclusive that it WAS MBS, but it certainly seems very possible, I'd like to see some more analysis or more clear video, but I doubt we will get any of that (unless some kind individual working in the security room can leak out some raw footage from the THOUSANDS of camera's on the gaming floor (https://www.networkworld.com/article/2284208/software/casino-insider-tells--almost--all-about-security.html)....)

[Cidersomerset]

CELENTE: Coming War In MidEast & Financial Crises

UqGFeK8HWT8
Published on 9 Nov 2017...Info Wars
Gerald Celente breaks down the risks of war and financial crises in the recent
moves in Saudi Arabia and looks at hedges against financial risk — BitCoin & gold.

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Flynn Was Removed From Trump Administration For
Whistleblowing On Obama Operations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUimjceikh0

Published on 9 Nov 2017
Sibel Edmonds, founder and president of the National Security
Whistleblowers Coalition, joins Alex Jones live via Skype to
discuss American intervention in the middle east and connections to ISIS.

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Ole Demmegard was talking about a local gunship helicopter tour experiance aprox
1hr 25 mins into his presentation with Kerry. This may well have been discussed
already ? The company was set up in 2017

OLE DAMMEGARD: LATEST UPDATE ON VEGAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDGMMa0WMFg

Gunship Vegas Helicopter Shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIZpyDJiypU
Published on 1 Feb 2017
Shoot From A Helicopter at http://GunshipVegas.com book online
now or call 702-623-6060 Las Vegas' Ultimate Shooting Adventure Tours
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Straight out of apocalypse now movie .....

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Published on 28 Feb 2017
Gun Ship Helicopters Safety Video
Walk-through process of the safety procedures at Gunship Helicopters
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Las Vegas Helicopter Gunship Ride from AOPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPt-BrY6uA
Published on 5 Apr 2017
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Machine Gun Helicopters Las Vegas Adventure Travel Experience 7-3-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nfQ8cJGCkY
Published on 4 Jul 2017
Machine Gun Helicopters Las Vegas Adventure Travel Experience. This once-in-a-
lifetime flight experience included a ride out to an undisclosed location from the
Vegas Strip, a very cool flight in the gunner's seat of their Eurocopter AS350 B2
A-Star helicopter, setup by highly trained former US military Ryan and Lucus, and
the chance to shoot 100 rounds from a M249 SAW into targets around a mountain
top. To finish it off, a super fun canyon run flight got us back to the landing zone.
This experience was provided at no cost for review. All thoughts and opinions are
my own. By Chris Rauschnot http://twitter.com/24k and thanks to Bill Cody
http://twitter.com/VegasBiLL for recording video of the experience.
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Gunship Helicopters offers an adventure of a lifetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbKvqS6tpbs
Published on 30 Mar 2017
For those who are brave enough, Gunship Helicopters flies thrill seekers over
rugged desert terrain dotted with cacti, cows and the occasional human to a remote
range on a rugged mountaintop. Upon arrival, clients fire 90 rounds of ammo from
a M249 SAW belt-fed semi-automatic weapon at 3 brightly-covered targets perched
on barren rocks.

[KansasGirl]

I agree with the idea that this wasn't a sudden idea to shoot up the crowd.

Another thing that doesn't make sense about the Saudi assassination theory: why would assassins (there at the behest of one of the richest families in the world) need to buy guns from a local? Would they really go through all of that and plan the assassination of a KING- a King of a country with a crap-ton of what makes our world go round (oil)- but leave the detail of the guns to buying them at the scene from some casino hopper?

[turiya]

Thank you Nasu (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?u=5485) for your keen observation on the points you bring up.
I have since done an extensive search regarding George Soros trying to find out who could have possibly given him inside information on a forthcoming Las Vegas event.

Following Jake Morphonios' lead with his recent video of George Soros involvement....
And see that the man, Stanley Druckenmiller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Druckenmiller) was the one who had advised Soros on the British Pound Sterling bet & had since left Soros for other things...

Upon searching for a Soros / Al-Waleed bin Talal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal) / Saudi connection left me pretty much with "nothing there, there".

But I think much of what you bring up, Nasu (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?u=5485), can be answered when one starts to examine James Murren (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murren)... Again Jake Morphonios does a good job in going into the background of MGM Resorts International CEO James Murren (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murren)


💲 Follow the Money / George Soros -
Las Vegas Shooting - Part 37
(Nov 8, 2017)
[video=youtube;N6oqqqI6IRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6oqqqI6IRo&t=1133s____________

💲 Follow the Money / James Murren -
Las Vegas Shooting - Part 38
(Nov 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsISKDtL4bo__________________________

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COMMENTARY: MGM’s CEO risks
angering many of his customers

https://www.casino.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/web1_jim_murren_web_7304573.jpg?x49833
MGM Resorts International CEO James Murren. REUTERS/Toru Hanai


Wayne Allyn Root Review Journal
August 23, 2017 - 9:00 pm

CEOs have every right to be personally involved in politics. I’d actually encourage it. We should all be personally invested in the American political system. It’s healthy.

But with his latest political gambit, Jim Murren, CEO of MGM Resorts International, has violated the trust of his board, shareholders, employees and customers. And not in a small way. In a “Vegas bigger-than-life way.”

In response to what he sees as the racism, bigotry, intolerance and violence in the wake of Charlottesville, Murren announced last week (week of 13-August, 2017) that MGM will match employee contributions to a collection of groups that include extreme leftist organizations and Muslim advocacy outfits.

Murren is so wildly wrong, so spectacularly reckless, so disastrously offensive to many of his customers, I believe it’s time for a shareholder revolt.

Not because of his personal views. I don’t care about them. It’s a free country. But no CEO should involve his company in controversial politics, let alone the funding of extreme and radical organizations. Murren has just put MGM in bed with an organization that has ties to Islamic terrorism.

Does MGM’s board approve of the CEO using company statements and shareholder money to offend 63 million Trump voters? How about every conservative in America? How about Christian customers? Families with children? How about anyone who is not a fan of Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood?

Because I am certain millions of MGM customers will be shocked when they find out to whom Murren has tied his company.

Keep in mind that within days of Charlottesville, there was a radical Muslim terror attack in Barcelona … and a Missouri Democrat state senator publicly wished for the assassination of President Donald Trump … and there was a shocking attack on police in America, with eight officers shot, two murdered in a 24-hour period … and Chicago’s streets exploded with violence — in just the past two weekends since Charlottesville, 96 citizens were shot and 17 killed on the streets of Democrat-controlled Chicago.

But apparently none of those incidents troubled Murren. He didn’t notice the racism, bigotry, extremism, violence or threats to assassinate our president coming from the left.

Murren could have announced MGM donations to groups that combat terrorism, or groups that support the families of cops killed in the line of duty or wounded warriors.

Instead he announced donations to extreme leftist groups, some backed by controversial radical Marxist George Soros. The groups include the Southern Poverty Law Center, which conservatives have accused of “character assassination.” The center lists many mainstream conservative organizations as “hate groups.” I’m sure millions of MGM customers support these groups. The center lists Americans who have questioned or criticized radical Islam as being part of “hate groups.” I’m sure millions of MGM customers would be offended by this. The center is so extreme that it listed Dr. Ben Carson under “hate groups.”

Is this a group MGM’s board or shareholders want to be tied to?

It gets worse. Murren announced that MGM would match employee donations to the Council on American Islamic Relations. This outfit was named by the Justice Department as “an unindicted co-conspirator” to Muslim terrorism. The group has been linked to Hamas. In addition, CAIR advises Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI.

But don’t take my word for it. In 2003, liberal Democrat Sen. Charles Schumer said, “CAIR has ties to terrorism.”

What CEO would tie his company to a group like this? Any CEO would have to be blind, deaf or dumb to go near CAIR. He’d have to know his controversial choices involving these extreme groups would offend, outrage or chase off millions of his customers.

Jim Murren has gone too far. And he’s put MGM’s board, shareholders and employees in a terrible position because of his extreme, radical, reckless decisions.

SOURCE (https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/wayne-allyn-root/commentary-mgms-ceo-risks-angering-many-of-his-customers/)


____________Late Add____________
https://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/img/logos/zerohedge.png
What Was Going On With
MGM Resorts In September? (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-09/what-was-going-mgm-resorts-september)
by William Craddick (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/william-craddick)
Oct 9, 2017 5:20 AM

Via Disobedient Media (https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/10/what-was-going-on-with-mgm-resorts-in-september/)

On Tuesday, September 5th, 2017, the board of MGM Resorts International decided to approve a $1 billion share repurchase program (http://archive.is/drYgc). At $17.7 billion today, the program represented a significant portion of its current market cap. By the end of the week, MGM's CEO, James Murren, had coolly divested himself of 80% of the shares he owned in his company. The divestment came just days before the ex-dividend date on September 8th, 2017.
The sales were originally disclosed in a document filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789570/000112760217027217/xslF345X01/form4.xml) (SEC). Murren had previously divested 57,269 shares on July 31st and August 9th, 2017.

It's currently unclear why Murren chose to sell when he did. To date, MGM's stock has not experienced a significant decline in value due to the repurchasing program. It could be interpreted to run against the company's interests for the CEO to convey a sense of urgency in the selling of his shares by disposing of them immediately after the commencement of his company's share repurchase program. It's also strange that the CEO of a company would sell more than half of their stake (let alone 80%) in the company that they represented.

Mr. Murren and his fellow board members were not the only speculators who were bearish on MGM's prospects. Billionaire investor George Soros also bought $42 million worth of puts on the company, according to SEC filings (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1029160/000114036117031995/0001140361-17-031995-index.htm) from mid August.

That point being made, it needs to be asked why any profit-oriented CEO of any company would sell 80% of his personal stake in his own corporation, especially after he thought it was in the business' best interest to initiate a massive share repurchase program which one would theoretically assume to reduce the number of shares in the company and increase the price of each share, ceteris peribus. Why would the individual with the most information about the company sell 80% of his shares immediately after the commencement of a program that most would consider positive for the stock? Shouldn’t he want to hold on to his shares? Is there something he knew, that others didn’t, that lead to so much movement in such little time? What a week!

On September 5th, 2017, 18 analysts were bullish on MGM, 1 had a hold rating, and 1 had a sell rating. Taking the events of September and October into consideration, has MGM’s picture heading forward improved, or worsened?

ZEROHEDGE (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-09/what-was-going-mgm-resorts-september)


_________________________

So, what we have here is even ZeroHedge sees that there must be a link between George Soros buying MGM puts & James Murren selling 80% of his MGM stocks.

I would speculate that with the newly arrested sheik Alwaleed bin Talal, especially his owning the top 6-7 floors of the Mandalay Bay, most definitely would have a connection with Mandalay Bay's CEO James Murren. There must be in there somewhere a similar connection to George Soros... A connection that not only for economic reasons, but more than likely for political reasons, as well.

Maybe this will become more clear with Jake Morphonios' next two videos in which he will be digging deeper down this rabbit hole as he goes more into the other two major players - Michael Chertoff & Sheldon Adelson - that were/are set to make alot of money off the consequences of the Las Vegas mass shooting.



Thanks for posting this interesting take about the Saudi Royals and potential assassination gone bad turiya.

To my mind this story is a complicated dot connection that makes no sense. Perhaps there was ALSO an attempt on foreign royalty that night, but that narrative still does not explain some key inexplicables.

Namely the od behavior of the only witness, the security guard Jesus Campos going down to Mexico for a week and driving back after suffering a gunshot to the leg.

Or that he was photographed getting an award for bravery in a restaurant on the 10th that had been remodeled back in may of this year!

Or the 4chan anonymous warning of a month previous about the move to beef up security for the benefit of the metal detector and back-scatter companies.

Or the warning to the crowd by the Mexican couple that everyone would die forty five minutes before the shooting.

Or that the CEO of MGM sold off 80% of his own personal stock in the company for $10 million dollars prior to the attacks.

Or for that matter that just this past August George Soros peered into his crystal ball like Sauron and saw that it was a great time to bet against MGM's stock to the tune of $42 million dollars in put options. The "Mandalay Bay" Las Vegas shooting happened and he made a killing...

So no, I don't buy the bungled Saudi royal assassination connection.... N

[turiya]

I agree with the idea that this wasn't a sudden idea to shoot up the crowd.

Another thing that doesn't make sense about the Saudi assassination theory: why would assassins (there at the behest of one of the richest families in the world) need to buy guns from a local? Would they really go through all of that and plan the assassination of a KING- a King of a country with a crap-ton of what makes our world go round (oil)- but leave the detail of the guns to buying them at the scene from some casino hopper?


Saudi Arabia is not a manufacturer of military-styled weapons, as such. That's why they get their hardware from other countries - the U.S. & Israel, for example. There is another copy of this video that I've seen that shows the "Prince" MBS(?) under escort, and the maker of that video identified one of the escorts as being armed with an Israeli weapon.

Late add:

https://yt3.ggpht.com/-L7pbe79kGJs/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/LFD0yxYGd6A/s48-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/user/CudaMan69)
Blank Stare (https://www.youtube.com/user/CudaMan69) 1 month ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXe5Zu4XN4&lc=UgztWpRSfdj3HkF-HYN4AaABAg)

"Man in yellow is mossad. He has an x95 israeli service rifle not legal for import in usa, different configuration from civilian model, is aiming at civilians, and uses the 6 point grip the idf/missad uses for the x95/tavor."
Source: In the 'Comments' section (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXe5Zu4XN4)



http://www.quanticotactical.com/graphics/252/XB16LLE.jpg
x95 Israeli Service Rifle



https://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/ANDREW_BARTZIS/SAUDI_PRINCE_ESCORTED_from_TROPICANA_x95_israeli_service_rifle_2.png
___________Tropicana escort (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXe5Zu4XN4)__________The IDF Tavor. More barrel. Less select-fire (https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/israel-defense-forces-iwi-tavor-review/).



https://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/ANDREW_BARTZIS/SAUDI_PRINCE_Mohammad_bin_Salman_ESCORTED_2.png
Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman Photo Comparison


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[Helene West]

In reading the depressing post above on where James Murren is sinking his $$ the question keeps coming up - why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america? I don't believe for a moment that the banks and corporations of the western world are owned by muslims. So what part does islam play in their formation of their one world government? Is it just a massive hate project against anything that is or once was Christian? A massive hate project against gentile caucasians? You would think the western oligarchy would want a secular or pagan world, why Islam???

[Foxie Loxie]

Having worked for a Muslim Dr. for 10 years, I was surprised to see just how MUCH Muslim ownership there is here in the USA! :doh:

[Hervé]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871
See also this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189609&viewfull=1#post1189609

[turiya]

... why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?


Why All Mass Violence Is Now Islamic Terror
(Nov 9, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJ5MUc4flo

[Tintin]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871
See also this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189609&viewfull=1#post1189609

Thanks Herve. I was waiting for someone to remember Pike's 'messages' written I believe in the 1870s. That seems to have been lost in a lot of the noise here, and is an utterly important reminder of the degree of pre-planning involved in both WW1 and WW2, also, and an important signifier, for those paying attention. We've also just passed the centenary of the disgusting Balfour Declaration as well.

The City of London (otherwise known as The Crown, not monarchy, that is a different beast - there are other threads on the forum that cover this also), believe it or not, is orchestrating a lot, if not all, of this, and is to many intents and purposes the true puppet master. So well disguised with its clever decoys and camouflage that hardly anyone is noticing their hand in this, at all. That's sorcery, and it is clever.

[Michelle Marie]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871
See also this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189609&viewfull=1#post1189609

Thanks Herve. I was waiting for someone to remember Pike's 'messages' written I believe in the 1870s. That seems to have been lost in a lot of the noise here, and is an utterly important reminder of the degree of pre-planning involved in both WW1 and WW2, also, and an important signifier, for those paying attention. We've also just passed the centenary of the disgusting Balfour Declaration as well.

The City of London (otherwise known as The Crown, not monarchy, that is a different beast - there are other threads on the forum that cover this also), believe it or not, is orchestrating a lot, if not all, of this, and is to many intents and purposes the true puppet master. So well disguised with its clever decoys and camouflage that hardly anyone is noticing their hand in this, at all. That's sorcery, and it is clever.

*****************************************************************!!!

"The Vatican-Jesuit-Masonic network operates mainly out of the following cities:

Vatican City-Rome-Italy,

City of London-London-UK,

District of Columbia ( which includes Washington, D.C..)

https://worldtruth.tv/the-vatican-and-the-jesuits-5/

*****************************************************************!!!

"We don't need the World Bank telling us what to do..." (The beginning of the end?)

VpyPIikngDs

Just catching up with the roots of the cabal.

Is NK a CIA controlled country? Is this related to Q Intel about NK activities being fake?
MM

[Michelle Marie]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871
See also this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189609&viewfull=1#post1189609

Yes. This supports the point made on this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100522-The-Ultimate-Patsies-for-The-Knights-of-Malta&p=1190150&viewfull=1#post1190150

Direct attention to make conflict and war, killing everyone except the actual perpetrators.

A lot of connections amid all the purposeful distractions.

Go to the roots, like Jordan Maxwell.
MM

[Tintin]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871
See also this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooters-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-546-injured&p=1189609&viewfull=1#post1189609

Yes. This supports the point made on this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100522-The-Ultimate-Patsies-for-The-Knights-of-Malta&p=1190150&viewfull=1#post1190150

Direct attention to make conflict and war, killing everyone except the actual perpetrators.

A lot of connections amid all the purposeful distractions.

Go to the roots, like Jordan Maxwell.
MM

Absolutely MM, absolutely. All roads do eventually lead back there, and of course beyond. You may find the background to certain individuals, for example Dr. John Dee (and protégé Francis Bacon), fascinating. And of course the roots do go back ever so much further: to antediluvian times too. For the purposes of the more 'modern' plan being enacted - and also disrupted, that is important to remember: it isn't going all their way - the CoL (Inner Temple) would be a starting point.

Remember, the "Crown" colonies, and that does include USA (Inc.), Canada, Australia and NZ are proxy business interests, and partly if not in many ways possibly entirely covertly owned. All these aforementioned colonies are a European experiment and business subsidiaries being managed from the CoL Inner Temple, very cleverly from the shadows. The use and adoption of the English language in these 'colonies' is about as big a hint as one might need as well.

The establishment of Israel (a purely esoteric and symbolic name. by the way, and its somewhat highly dubious popularly known 'history' as recorded in the Bible - there is possibly next to no real truth to any of that) at the encouragement of Balfour, as a Zionist experiment. (I'm going to pause now as I wouldn't want to go veering too far off topic, but, you get the drift.)

[KiwiElf]

It's not showing on YT yet, but Tucker Carlson (FOX) guested a lawyer tonight with previously unseen footage from her client, clearly questioning the BS narrative from the fakestream media - keep an eye out for it.

[Tintin]

Having worked for a Muslim Dr. for 10 years, I was surprised to see just how MUCH Muslim ownership there is here in the USA! :doh:

Foxie: you should visit Knightsbridge in west London over here. You would be STAGGERED at the amount of investment from the Saudis there. And it isn't just confined to London or that part of it either of course, but, critically, mainly. See MM and my comments re "Crown" - they'll be the ones facilitating the buy up of estate. It's really nothing to do with religion or ethnicity either really. It's about business and controlling interests. A licence to print money for the "Crown".

[TrumanCash]

This is an interesting video from two girls who walked out of the balcony of a NY,NY casino theater production into the chaos of stampeding, screaming people.

As they ran seeking a safe area they reported "multiple shooters", "military vehicles", "military tanks", hearing what they thought was shooting, people screaming and running out of the Monte Carlo casino, etc. (I would think there were not actual tanks there but rather military vehicles that looked like tanks.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLCVQ5oel_E

[RunningDeer]

It's not showing on YT yet, but Tucker Carlson (FOX) guested a lawyer tonight with previously unseen footage from her client, clearly questioning the BS narrative from the fakestream media - keep an eye out for it.
It's the first 12 minutes.

w8HAnT3i-2w

[Foxie Loxie]

Albert Pike is an interesting "omission" of the US history we were taught in school here! Who knew?! :Angel:

[Hervé]

Interesting observation about the chopper's flashes from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zt8.html):


F35j6DlizvY

MAJOR CORRECTION (http://82.221.129.208/.zt8.html)
On the 9th I posted a video of the helicopter shooting in Vegas. On Linux, for some reason with how it rendered the video, the flashes were not even and it looked like shooting. However, yesterday, I came across the helicopter video file and played it on a Windows computer and it is obviously strobes, flashing perfectly evenly.

Therefore, the helicopter shooting video is now corrected and redacted.

There was enough wrong with Vegas to not need a helicopter shooting video anyway, nothing lost but a little embarrasment.

------------------------

HELICOPTER SHOOTING VIDEO NOW REDACTED

Due to the way Linux rendered video, it looked like shooting was coming from the helicopter. However, playback of the video in Windows clearly shows it is only strobes.

This post is being left up so people can see what was corrected.

It is not accurate. It appeared accurate in Linux. But windows proved this false.
================================

I concur that low resolution pictures and videos compounded by faulty compression and low quality video cards can lead to strange, acute cases of pareidolia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia)...

[TrumanCash]

I finally found a couple videos of Las Vegas helicopters showing two strobing lights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36x5_Og7X7I

The following video shows two strobing lights as the heli is taking off about 1:00 into the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Zo8WXI81M

Here's a video from Sundance Helicopter with witnesses saying there was a shooting at their business at the airport:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkHu6Yqn7SA

[Tintin]

This seems like a totally bonafide recollection and the person in the video clearly does not want to be identified. It's a shade over 3 minutes and he reports seeing black and white vans in a parking lot near the concert venue, and, what he describes as a group wearing fatigues or combat type clothing getting dressed amazingly, before any shooting started. He seems genuinely keen to get his reportage out quickly and most anxious to give as little away about himself as possible.

You'll need to crank the sound right up on this though; well worth a listen.

TVClip.biz link is here for easy download: https://tvclip.biz/video/flLZHiheiRs/las-vegas-witness.html

YouTube link here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLZHiheiRs

[turiya]

Colonel Roy Potter's most recent video kind of goes along with what TQ has just posted (above)... Gets into the Las Vegas shooting @10:10 something going on with the Deep State, Saudi Arabia... then into Meuller @ 32:00, and then back to Vegas @ 33:00...


NSA, Las Vegas, Bundy Ranch,
Q Clearance Patriot, Short Salt Lake Tour
(Nov 11, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHv27rcY5Tg

[Hervé]

[...]
- why does the western ruling class want so badly to islamify europe and north america?
[...]
... because of some plan from long ago:
"The Third World War must be fomented by (http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm#ww3) taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World....
[...]
To wit:

Paris cancels Christmas market; holds special Ramadan party every year (https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/11/paris-cancels-christmas-market-holds-special-ramadan-party-every-year/)

Voice of Europe (https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/11/paris-cancels-christmas-market-holds-special-ramadan-party-every-year/)
Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:44 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/431345/large/Screenshot_2017_11_12_Paris_ca.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/431345/full/Screenshot_2017_11_12_Paris_ca.jpg)
© kavalenkava / Shutterstock.com


The Champs-Élysées Christmas market in Paris has been cancelled by City Hall councillors. It is considered the city's main Christmas market and welcomes 15 million visitors every year.

According to a spokesperson of the City Hall, the French capital "wants to focus on offering visitors and Parisians more attractive and innovative events that will enhance the Champs-Élysées in a cultural and aesthetic dimension in keeping with this exceptional site".

Since 2008 this market in Paris has been organised by Marcel Campion but due to a long-term dispute the contract was terminated this year.

According to Jean-François Martins, Deputy Mayor in charge of tourism at City Hall, the "market wasn't good enough for Paris."

But Mr. Champion denies that the market sells poor quality goods: "We have a six-year contract with the city which is being called into question after only two years".

Isn't it strange that a city that organises special Ramadan parties every year can't organise a relatively simple Christmas market? Or is there something else going on?

Should the words of cultural and aesthetic dimensions actually be interpreted as: the market has to be more modern, multi-cultural and cosmopolitan, codewords for less Christian?

In a city with almost daily Muslim street prayers and a yearly Ramadan party it wouldn't be surprising to anyone.

[turiya]

Thanks for posting this interesting take about the Saudi Royals and potential assassination gone bad turiya.

To my mind this story is a complicated dot connection that makes no sense. Perhaps there was ALSO an attempt on foreign royalty that night, but that narrative still does not explain some key inexplicables.

Namely the od behavior of the only witness, the security guard Jesus Campos going down to Mexico for a week and driving back after suffering a gunshot to the leg.

Or that he was photographed getting an award for bravery in a restaurant on the 10th that had been remodeled back in may of this year!

Or the 4chan anonymous warning of a month previous about the move to beef up security for the benefit of the metal detector and back-scatter companies.

Or the warning to the crowd by the Mexican couple that everyone would die forty five minutes before the shooting.

Or that the CEO of MGM sold off 80% of his own personal stock in the company for $10 million dollars prior to the attacks.

Or for that matter that just this past August George Soros peered into his crystal ball like Sauron and saw that it was a great time to bet against MGM's stock to the tune of $42 million dollars in put options. The "Mandalay Bay" Las Vegas shooting happened and he made a killing...

So no, I don't buy the bungled Saudi royal assassination connection.... N

Okay Nasu (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?u=5485), this is what I've come up with so far in piecing together some of the remaining loose ends.

After looking more deeper down the rabbit hole of MGM / Mandalay Bay CEO James Murren, I think I got at least the Jesus Campos thing figured out.

Jesus Campos going to Mexico right after he got shot from the Las Vegas shooting event:

1) Looking into James Murren's political leanings... he was & is a Republican never-Trumper Hillary Clinton supporter, which made him an advocate for open border immigration, supported ethnic groups & undocumented immigrants, often times hired undocument workers - as was the case in his hiring Jesus Campos, imo.

2) Unforturnately for Jesus Campos, being shot in the leg, brought him a lot MORE unwanted attention, which would more than likely bring his undocumented immigrant status more to the forefront. Something that he would rather not have happen. So he disappeared from the interviews that were wanted by the MSM. And he took all his earnings that he had accumulated up till then, and he bolted for the border to deposit what he could there with family &/or friends that he has in Mexico, and perhaps just remain there himself.

3) No doubt he was encouraged to return to Las Vegas, with a promise by CEO James Murren (probably through his immediate supervisor) that he would be taken care of, and not to worry. He then returned after depositing his earnings & did the prearranged interview with Ellen Degeneres.

4) The photo of him receiving an award was also probably part of his being assisted by James Murren in acquiring a good status as a Las Vegas resident... Remember, according to Scott Binsack (https://youtu.be/zFVpbCfclxQ?t=51m54s) & the computer records he obtained from the Mandalay Bay computer system. There was no record of Jesus Campos being hired by anybody. This meant that Jesus Campos was specifically hired by James Murren, himself. Nor was Jesus Campos licensed by the State of Nevada as a security guard or having a gaming card that was also a requirement for working in a hotel casino as a security agent - this, according to Bill Still (https://youtu.be/i5oVFVpI0CU?t=1m11s).

5) Its understood that there is a forth coming lawsuit agaist the MGM that would require testimony from Jesus Campos. We'll have to see how well the MGM attorneys can keep Jesus Campos immigrant status from being exposed as being an undocumented immigrant.Now keep in mind, the following video was published in August 2017... Cyrus992, the maker of this video (below), is hitting the nail on the head... as it is becoming more & more clear that James Murren is tied into the Las Vegas shooting event more than anybody else.... aside from perhaps the Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal... who is presently put under arrest by Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman...

That's right, James Murren, as the InvestmentWatchBlog.com article shows is the Prime Suspect in the Las Vegas shooting conspiracy... at the very least the one that has the most culpability into what was going to take place.

Just fyi, the following video may come off as somewhat of an emotional rant... but it is factual in content...



MGM Resorts CEO Jim Murren
Charlottesville Remarks EXPOSED
(Aug 21, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcuGGUl6Ddo______________

http://investmentwatchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/cropped-logo81-1.jpg

PRIME SUSPECT: CEO of Mandalay Bay, James Murren,
is on the DHS Infrastructure Advisory Council! (http://investmentwatchblog.com/prime-suspect-ceo-of-mandalay-bay-james-murren-is-on-the-dhs-infrastructure-advisory-council/)
by IWB ·
Published October 7, 2017

Here he, James Murren, is on the DHS Infrastructure Advisory Council member list (https://www.dhs.gov/niac-members).

The National Infrastructure Advisory Council (NIAC) shall provide the President through the Secretary of Homeland Security with advice on the security of the critical infrastructure sectors and their information systems: - LINK (https://www.dhs.gov/national-infrastructure-advisory-council)

James Murren: CEO of Mandalay Bay/MGM Resorts International is a sitting member of the Homeland Security National Infrastructure Advisory Council-he’s responsible for getting legislation and regulations passed for security & technology infrastructure in public places. Things such as x-ray backscatter machines. So the CEO of Mandalay Bay is a sitting member of the Homeland Security National Infrastructure Advisory Council? This is not normal people! - LINK (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/potential-interest-ceo-mandalay-bay-casino/209280)

Laura Loomer is reporting TODAY that DHS is now “in full force” at the hotel. “Bunch of Homeland vehicles blocking” areas of hotel.


https://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/GENRL_TWEETS/LAURA_LOOMER_JAMES_MURREN_MANDALAY_BAY_DHSgov_NOW_ IN_FULL_FORCE_at_Hot.png (https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/916430585610072065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Finvestmentwatchblog.com%2Fpri me-suspect-ceo-of-mandalay-bay-james-murren-is-on-the-dhs-infrastructure-advisory-council%2F)

Is DHS there for the cover-up?

RELATED:
He [James Murren MGM / Mandalay Bay CEO] dumped most of his MGM stock ($13.7 million worth) in the months leading up to the shooting! - LINK
(https://finance.yahoo.com/screener/insider/MURREN%20JAMES)
Also, on September 12, someone was placing much larger than normal bets that the MGM stock would go down! MGM Resorts International (NYSE:MGM) was the target of unusually large options trading activity. Investors purchased 11,909 put options on the company. This is an increase of approximately 164% compared to the typical daily volume of 4,509 put options.

SECRET SOCIETY?
MGM Resorts (Mandalay Bay, Luxor, etc) seem to have their very own secret society called ENLIGHTENED SOCIETY FOR GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION. Here’s their trademark logo (https://www.trademarkia.com/enlightened-society-for-global-transformation-74349850.html), originally registered by MANDALAY RESORT GROUP in 1995.


https://mark.trademarkia.com/logo-images/mandalay-resort-group/enlightened-society-for-global-transformation-74349850.jpg

Here’s a better image of the logo (pic from William Cooper’s
video on Luxor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx8vaS48W6k), available on YouTube):

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4070/4396407906_bc1114aacf.jpg

FLASHBACK:
MGM Resorts CEO Jim Murren announced on Monday that, despite being a lifelong Republican, he is backing Democrat Hillary Clinton for president. - LINK (https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/aug/19/mgm-resorts-ceo-jim-murren-election-issues-trump/)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPuwsMTxaJI
MORE:
Mandalay Bay CEO Jim Murren funding extreme and radical groups with shareholder money. In bed with Islamic terrorists. Hillary praises Heather Murren.

BREAKING REPORT: HILLARY SUPPORTER, CEO Of Las Vegas MGM and Mandalay Bay Resort Asked Employees To Donate To CAIR Only 2 Months Ago, CEO of Mandalay Bay Jim Murren’s wife, Heather Murren, worked for Obama (https://www.nist.gov/cybercommission/heather-h-murren)! - LINK (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/08/15/republican-ceo-endorses-clinton-mgm-resorts-international-jim-murren-las-vegas/88726804/)

(https://imgur.com/a/beLLE)
Laura Loomer (https://www.facebook.com/lauraloomerofficial/?hc_ref=ARSANnBe-5cGjMUecuyWzPxhXfVPjDP6HrbCBW8Rsb4QiQ30AuH6Ze5aPpo Q1qCoXCs&fref=nf)

October 3 (https://www.facebook.com/lauraloomerofficial/photos/a.835246836634490.1073741829.703144419844733/855979904561183/?type=3)
EXCLUSIVE: In this internal memo I have obtained, Jim Murren, the CEO of MGM resorts which owns Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino (where Stephen Paddock committed his massacre) asked employees to donate to CAIR, a documented terrorist organization, two months ago.

Murren declared that he'd match all donations from his employees to CAIR, and radical left wing anti -Trump groups like Southern Poverty Law Center (https://www.facebook.com/SPLCenter/?fref=mentions) and ADL - Anti-Defamation League (https://www.facebook.com/anti.defamation.league/?fref=mentions). His wife, Heather Murren also worked for the Obama administration on Obama's "Commission for Enhancing National Cybersecurity" in 2016.

VALUES MATCHING GIFT PROGRAM (https://imgur.com/a/beLLE)

CLICK TO ENLARGE IMAGE
https://www.curezone.org/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/GENRL_TWEETS/LAURA_LOOMER_JAMES_MURREN_MANDALAY_BAY_MATCHING_GI FT_PROGRAM.png (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLOqlnKW4AAafmw.jpg:large)
TWITTER LINK (https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/915262717057011712)

Other Links:

Billion Dollar Vegas Company Tied to Terrorism Organization?
https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2017/08/29/billion-dollar-vegas-company-tied-to-terrorism-organization-n2374269

Main Shareholder and CEO of Mandalay bay: main partner is the Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal (http://imowired.com/mgm-stock-selloff-and-saudi-connections-to-mandalay-bay/) of Saudi Arabia - (Wahabi religious sect)

James Murren Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murren


MGM CEO Connections

:


http://www.muckety.com/maps/11369.png
Link (http://www.muckety.com/James-J-Murren/11369.muckety)

National Infrastructure Advisory Council Members (https://www.dhs.gov/niac-members#)
https://www.dhs.gov/national-infrastructure-advisory-council

Source (http://investmentwatchblog.com/prime-suspect-ceo-of-mandalay-bay-james-murren-is-on-the-dhs-infrastructure-advisory-council/)

[Cidersomerset]

This follows the mainstream narrative but still interesting, the researchers are
not watching alternative media.....


Mapping the Las Vegas Massacre

The New York Times


krr4u6uGdzc

Published on 11 Nov 2017

10 Minutes. 12 Gunfire Bursts. 30 Videos.

The shots began at 10:05pm. Twelve bursts of gunfire later, the police broke
down Stephen Paddock’s door at the Mandalay Bay. The Times mapped 30
videos to draw perhaps the most complete picture to date of what happened.
Subscribe on YouTube: http://bit.ly/U8Ys7n

[Hervé]

Another caveat regarding edited videos from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zv9.html):
TOTALLY FAKE REALITY BEING CREATED FOR VEGAS SHOOTING (http://82.221.129.208/.zv9.html)

I FIGURED THIS OUT WHEN I WATCHED THE NEW VIDEOS OF THE CONCERT GETTING INTERRUPTED.

IN THE REAL VIDEOS, JASON ALDEAN NOTICES THE SHOOTING, STOPS SINGING, BACKS AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE, DOES A SHORT DAZED WALK AND THEN STARTS RUNNING ALL THE WHILE HIS VOICE CONTINUES OVER THE SPEAKERS, AND THE CROWD LAUGHS BECAUSE THEY FIGURE OUT HE WAS LIP SYNCHING.

IN THE NEW FAKE VIDEOS, HE SINGS RIGHT UP TO THE END, AND SUDDENLY RUNS. THE VIDEOS LOOK COMPLETELY REAL.

Keep the above in mind when posting videos from CNN, TNYT or the BBC...

... it may be "interesting" but ends up adding more distractions to an already very confused picture :)

[turiya]

Jake Morphonious Las Vegas Shooting Part 39.... moving on with Michael Chertoff and Sheldon Adelson upper level elitists who also benefit from the Las Vegas Shooting.


💲 Follow the Money / Chertoff & Adelson
Las Vegas Shooting - Part 39
(Nov 10, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPcuHODbMw



From the Description section:

George Soros, James Murren, Michael Chertoff and Sheldon Adelson benefit from the Las Vegas Shooting. Follow the money trail and you may find some important connections!

[TrumanCash]

YOU DECIDE: Is This Anonymous Theory on the Las Vegas Shooter True? (https://silenceisconsent.net/decide-new-anonymous-theory-las-vegas-shooter-true-watch-video/)

I don't recall this video on this thread so here it is (from a month ago). I don't know how credible it is. I wonder if it's the fedgov trying to look like the good guy re the Vegas shootings or what.

Questions posed from this website:


The video, posted by a person who claims to be in contact with a member of Anonymous, claims Paddock was part of an FBI sting on ISIS members in the United States. It claims that Anonymous has hacked the Las Vegas Police Department and viewed emails admitting that Paddock was an undercover FBI agent running a “Fast and Furious” type of bust to sell guns to ISIS members in the United States.

The theory, as they describe it, is that Paddock was selling guns to ISIS sympathizers as part of an ongoing investigation. ISIS, however, discovered he was FBI, killed him, and used the guns to carry out the attack. They then left, leaving Paddock behind to be the fall guy.

There are a few problems with the theory, however. Before you watch the video, let’s play Devil’s Advocate and see if the theory holds up under this logic.

If, in fact, this were an FBI sting, where are the agents? Why did they not step in? Why were they not monitoring the transaction? There should have been FBI agents in the next room, or at least, the same floor.

We know Paddock had some mental issues, based on those who knew him and eyewitness accounts. So why would the FBI use him instead of one of their own agents?

The video claims the video cameras were meant to record the transaction, but no sting would rely on implanted cameras by the undercover agent. They have far more sophisticated ways to monitor a room.

Why would Paddock, a supposed gun-runner, only sell guns easily available in stores and online? Why not sell true automatic assault rifles, as they did during Fast and Furious? What is the incentive for ISIS to use this guy? We know past mass shooters could easily buy their own guns without raising suspicion.

Lastly, we know local police and hotel security had Paddock cornered in the room, and the stairwell was secured. Paddock still shot 200 bullets through his hotel room door, hitting a guard. If he were an FBI agent, why would he shoot at the authorities? His cover was already blown, apparently, and we know no one else could have done it.

Keep some healthy skepticism in mind as you watch.

Here is the video.


https://www.facebook.com/TeamstersforTrump/videos/2038090583087007/

[KiwiElf]

SAUDI KING CONFIRMS RECENT ARRESTS AND PURGE OF ROYAL FAMILY INCLUDES "9/11 PERPETRATORS / ORCHESTRATORS / ARCHITECTS"
November 15, 2017

from Hal Turner:

https://www.sgtreport.com/articles/2017/11/15/saudi-king-confirms-recent-arrests-and-purge-of-royal-family-includes-911-perpetrators-orchestrators-architects


The King of Saudi Arabia has admitted members of the Saudi Royal family helped Orchestrate the attacks of 9/11 upon the United States, and they have now been ARRESTED.

Saudi Arabia’s Prince Mohammed bin Salman recent ‘anti-corruption’ crackdown on the powerful elite has included dozens of powerful 9/11 conspirators, including Osama bin Laden’s brother and royal family members.

The new purge that saw the mass arrests of royalty and billionaires saw dozens of elites placed under house arrest,including 38 cabinet members that were accused of being the architects of 9/11.



President Donald Trump is said to have had a significant influence on the recent purge, which saw the Clinton/Bush globalist era come to a sudden close.

Clinton allies and donors, along with 9/11 conspirators, have all been arrested signaling the end of the globalist influence on the world.

Many Americans have been aware of the role Saudi Arabia played in the 9/11 attacks; 5 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis.

In 2002, the bipartisan Joint Congressional Inquiry conducted an extensive investigation into the intelligence failures in the lead-up to 9/11. President George W. Bush sealed the section covering Saudi Arabia's possible involvement, presumably to avoid damaging relations with one of America's closest Middle Eastern allies.

Since then, the 28 pages have been locked in a basement room at the U.S. Capitol; lawmakers can read them, but are forbidden from revealing their exact contents. Spearheading the campaign to have them declassified is former Sen. Bob Graham, who co-chaired the inquiry. "The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11," he said last year, "and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia."

But before Trump, weak leaders like Bush, Clinton, and Obama failed to stand up to the Saudis, thus selling out the American people.

Then the Massacre at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas took place. According to radar recordings from the nearby McCarren airport, at least seven helicopters appeared to have been used in that attack. Three of them hovered over rooftops near to both Mandalay Bay and to the Country Music festival which was attacked. The hovering was presumably done to drop-off shooters.

Regardless of whatever shots may have been coming from Mandalay Bay, video from Las Vegas clearly shows MUZZLE FLASH coming from mid-air, away from Manadalay Bay - which could only have come from a helicopter.

It turned out that certain Saudis owned the top five floors of the Mandalay Bay, and according to highly confidential information, members of the Saudi Royal Family were in Las Vegas the night of the attack. Perhaps even the King of Saudi Arabia himself!

This has lead certain investigators to conclude the "worst mass shooting in US history" was actually an ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION of certain Saudi Royalty. The hit was financed by certain members of the Saudi government. The people killed at the concert . . . . were a DIVERSION from the real target: The Saudi royalty in Vegas that night.

President Trump dispatched Jared Kushner to Saudi Arabia via commercial flight on an UNANNOUNCED trip. My former colleagues in the FBI confirm Kushner brought with him, highly classified investigation materials showing who paid how much to whom in order to carry out or facilitate the attack, and telephone/email intercepts proving the Vegas massacre was a cover for an attempted "hit" against the Saudi Royals.

72 Hours after Kushner departed Saudi Arabia, "the purge" began, with round-ups of Royal Family members, current and former Ministers and others.

Apparently, many of those arrested - BUT NOT ALL - have been financing/using terrorism for years to implement THEIR goals worldwide. Most of them were wrapped-up in one fell swoop when the Crown Prince had so many arrested. The cabal is out of business. Their compatriots in the AMERICAN federal government, are next.

The last 16 years have seen the Saudi regime continually block information that could lead to a full investigation of 9/11, leading implications for the wealthy orchestrators.

Trumps election promise to investigate 9/11

Many see the recent mass arrests as a sign the Trump’s election promise to investigate 9/11 is coming to fruition, which will deliver a long overdue justice to the Americans.

Trumps said: “First of all, the original 9/11 investigation is a total mess and has to be reopened,” Trump said during the election campaign, to widespread mockery from the press.

But whoever laughs last, laughs best. And Trump is developing the habit of getting the last laugh. During a February debate, then-candidate Trump took a crack at former president George W. Bush.

“The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush,” he said in a February debate. “He kept us safe? That is not safe.”

Trump is no longer playing the cozy game of the deep state, hence the reason we are seeing such a backlash against him.

“Why did the administration at the time not take legal means against Saudi Arabia? Weren’t 19 of the high-jackers from Saudi Arabia?” Trump questioned February. “Americans deserve answers and I will definitely request a new investigation so that this horrible tragedy never happens again.”

9/11 conspirators in custody

Following the mass arrests, which now sees prosecutors working on cases, there may soon be light at the end of the tunnel.

“I’ve got to tell you, for all the elites out in the world, the Party of Davos guys are sitting there today gobsmacked, absolutely shocked,” Steve Bannon said.

“The largest financier in the Arab world, the Muslim world, is Prince Alwaleed. He’s got stakes in just about every high-tech company. He’s a huge partner of Rupert Murdoch. When he came to the United States back in the early nineties, he was actually a client of my firm as he got into Hollywood; he got into media. He owns a huge stake in Citicorp, he saved Citicorp from going bankrupt.”

“People are stunned today that he was put under house arrest, put under arrest yesterday in Saudi Arabia, in this situation of what they called corruption, money laundering, et cetera. People are thinking this is directly tied to the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood, this whole thing about cleaning up Saudi Arabia to take care of this.

“You’re going to see a lot of changes. This thing is far, far from over. You’re at the top of the first inning. You’re probably at the first batter,” Bannon said.

Crossposted here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-A---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-DoD-exercises-4-6-November&p=1190919#post1190919

[TrumanCash]

You can read Hal Turner's complete article on his website here (http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/1601-breaking-news-urgent-saudi-king-confirms-recent-arrests-and-purge-of-royal-family-includes-9-11-perpetrators-orchestrators-architects).

I don't think he's got it right about the flashes from the helicopters being machine gun fire. It appears that was just the helicopter lights which, if true, might mean that the helicopters were there to drop off shooters on rooftops. Hopefully, more evidence will emerge to clarify what they were doing.

Here's another video from SGTReport yesterday that appears to connect a lot of dots in a positive view of things including Saudi corruption:

YOU WON'T BELIEVE ALL THAT IS BEING EXPOSED NOW!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX0V4K7J-xA)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX0V4K7J-xA

[turiya]

The news for November 1, 2017...

On November 4th The Antifa Insurgency Against Donald Trump And His Supporters Will Begin (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-01/november-4th-antifa-insurgency-against-donald-trump-and-his-supporters-will-begin)

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Are we about to see chaos in the streets in major cities all over America?

Nov 1, 2017 6:05 PM


The news on November 3, 2017....

What To Do If All Hell Breaks Loose During Tomorrow's "Antifa Uprising" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-03/what-do-if-all-hell-breaks-loose-during-tomorrows-antifa-uprising)

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Tomorrow is November 4th, the date that has been bandied about by wannabe Communists and people who hate the President since last summer (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/communists-trump-pence-regime-08192017) as the starting date of their uprising (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/warning-going-attempted-communist-revolution-nov-4-10052017).

Nov 3, 2017 8:40 PM


And, on November 5...

"It's A Dud" - Nationwide Soros-Funded, Antifa 'Uprising' To Remove Trump From Office Fails (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-05/its-dud-nationwide-soros-funded-antifa-uprising-remove-trump-office-fails)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20171105_antifa.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-05/its-dud-nationwide-soros-funded-antifa-uprising-remove-trump-office-fails)
Despite widespread attention in the press, the “Refuse Fascism” multi-city Antifa plan to remove Trump from office has completely failed, with protests in most cities turning out under a hundred people who were at times outnumbered by Trump supporters that had shown up to counter what the Soros-funded group had claimed would be millions of people (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNzh7NBXcAAFKn0.jpg) intent on driving out the “fascist Trump/Pence regime.”

Nov 5, 2017 3:55 PM


This begs the question...


Antifa Has Gone Silent, Was Saudi Prince Al-Waleed Funding Them? (https://squawker.org/culture-wars/antifa-has-gone-silent-was-saudi-prince-al-waleed-funding-them/)
By Carlisle du Rozel (https://squawker.org/author/durozel/) -
November 10, 2017

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Correlation does not imply causation, or so the saying goes; however, simply recognizing such nonequivalence omits potentially vital information about the relationship thereof. For years, many of the general public have heralded the notoriously wealthy investor George Soros as the harbinger of socio-political leftism. Having openly (https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/expenditures)funded revolutionary ideologies, including numerous Black Lives Matter protests (https://squawker.org/world/exposed-bused-in-baltimore-protesters-promote-violent-revolution-in-america/), Soros is one of the most commonly criticized social elites in the world. And it is likely that such criticism is justified, seeing that the man has continuously stimulated national unrest (https://squawker.org/analysis/death-social-activism/)time and time again.

However, it would be ludicrous to presume that Soros is the only sheep of his flock, so to speak. If one egg in a carton goes bad, it is more than likely that the carton itself needs thrown out. Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a royal billionaire, is of such a stripe. Although not as brazen as Soros, Al-Waleed has a rather interesting history that ought to be surveyed and brought into light.

When Al-Waleed was arrested on November 5, 2017, both the media and the general public took a special interest to his life and ethos, bringing into the spotlight certain information that had previously been buried. Owning significant amounts of stock in Twitter, Lyft and Citigroup, Al-Waleed had gone into business with some of the world’s most powerful men, including Gates, Rupert Murdoch and Michael R. Bloomberg. Certainly, one would presume that such a man would be untouchable.

Mr. Trump famously accused the Islamic leader as being a “dopey prince” trying to “control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/675523728055410689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2F04%2Fworld%2Fmiddleeast%2Fsaudi-arabia-waleed-bin-talal.html).”

Notably, since the “Antifa Revolution (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/27027-antifa-planning-communist-revolution-for-america-on-november-4)” that occurred on November 4th, which consisted of nothing more than the typical leftist shouting in protest of the existence of right-wing ideology, the alt-left has been remarkably quiet. Tomorrow will mark one week since the nationwide call-to-arms, and seeing that Al-Waleed’s arrest followed the day after this nationwide plot, one must ask, are these two events connected? It wouldn’t be preposterous to suppose so.

Al-Waleed has meddled in U.S. politics in the past, most remarkably with the ascent of President emeritus Barack H. Obama to his former position of global power. The late African-American political leader and businessman Percy Sutton (https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biography.com%2Fpeople%2Fpercy-sutton-528650%3F_escaped_fragment_%3D), in an interview with reporter Dominic Carter (https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FDominictv), explained how Al-Waleed’s “principal adviser,” Dr. Khalid al-Monsour (https://pamelageller.com/2008/08/obamas-benefact.html/), introduced him to the future president and had inspired him to become his pedagogical benefactor. This, however, if taken as isolated could potentially be understood as a simple act of charity; however, the story doesn’t end there.

Al-Waleed is Citigroup’slargest (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2013/03/myth-prince-alwaleed-bin-talal-saudi)individual shareholder. Citigroup, for the uninformed, is an enormous multinational investment bank based in New York City. The company, according to documents on WikiLeak (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/15/wiki-o15.html), “submitted to the Obama campaign a list of its preferred candidates for cabinet positions in an Obama administration [2008]. This list corresponds almost exactly to the eventual composition of Barack Obama’s cabinet.” Having had a direct hand in Obama’s college education and cabinet selection, Al-Waleed is far from uninvolved with American politics.

So, with this information at hand, one must ask whether Al-Waleed is – or rather, was – a Saudi equivalent of George Soros. As Antifa’s deafening silence continues, we are only left with speculations and scattered facts to piece together. As time unfurls, however, perhaps we can arrive at the root of the funding of massive leftist rallies in impoverished areas.

SOURCE (https://squawker.org/culture-wars/antifa-has-gone-silent-was-saudi-prince-al-waleed-funding-them/)
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[TrumanCash]

Tropicana Witness Kevin's Second Interview (https://vimeo.com/240470521)

More details and new videos inside Tropicana during the lockdown. Kevin gives his analysis of the armed, uniformed group of men and woman with two men in plain clothes following them at the rear. One theory is that Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) is on the left rear. They split away from the armed group and go toward the front desk while the armed group walked out the front door according to Kevin. This occurred quite a long time before swat arrived according to Kevin.

As usual Scott Binsack yacks and barks unnecessarily throughout the video so have your mouse ready to jump ahead to Kevin's comments and videos. To save time I would suggest starting at about 16:00 for the interview to skip Scott's intro.

Kevin comments on the newly-released videos he took while helping people. At about 1:37:15 they start to cover the people in military gear that so many are wondering about. Even Kevin indicates they were not swat and were out of place. However, his analysis does not support the "prince" Salman theory. Kevin also took a picture of what the Tropicana main floor looked like after swat finally cleared nearly everyone out.


https://vimeo.com/240470521

[Tintin]

Tropicana Witness Kevin's Second Interview (https://vimeo.com/240470521)

More details and new videos inside Tropicana during the lockdown. Kevin gives his analysis of the armed, uniformed group of men and woman with two men in plain clothes following them at the rear. One theory is that Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) is on the left rear. They split away from the armed group and go toward the front desk while the armed group walked out the front door according to Kevin. This occurred quite a long time before swat arrived according to Kevin.

As usual Scott Binsack yacks and barks unnecessarily throughout the video so have your mouse ready to jump ahead to Kevin's comments and videos. To save time I would suggest starting at about 16:00 for the interview to skip Scott's intro.

Kevin comments on the newly-released videos he took while helping people. At about 1:37:15 they start to cover the people in military gear that so many are wondering about. Even Kevin indicates they were not swat and were out of place. However, his analysis does not support the "prince" Salman theory. Kevin also took a picture of what the Tropicana main floor looked like after swat finally cleared nearly everyone out.


https://vimeo.com/240470521

Thanks Truman. I was trying to remember who it was who had been interviewed about this piece of film, simply because in no way does Kevin suggest that any Saudi prince is here - I think that is more 'snow' with folk getting carried away, and, not really very helpful. It's a terrific piece of film this for cementing certain things and for being able to also throw out garbage theories.

Scott is doing some really great work of course, but, yes, does have a tendency to continually interrupt, bark as you say, and take forever to make a point sometimes. As far as shooting from helicopters is concerned as well, tackled towards the end of the film, well, I'm not buying that at all. Scott's disappearing down a deep rabbit hole with that, and it is only my view of course, and may well appear in Blunderland as a consequence. Still, he should be applauded for the enormous efforts he is making all the same.

[turiya]

Clearing up the Las Vegas Shooting details... man being escorted through the main floor of the Tropicana was previously thought to be the Saudi Crown Prince Muhammed Bin Salman, instead it was an off duty security guard, Jason Buff (an avid softball player shown by his t-shirt logo 'S2N'), who was being brought back on duty to aid in providing additional security...

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Coincidence? Jared Kushner Flies to Saudi Arabia Last Week – Saudis Jail Corrupt Hillary Supporting Prince One Week Later (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/jared-kushner-flies-to-saudi-arabia-last-week-this-week-corrupt-hillary-supporting-prince-arrested-coincidence/)

November 6, 2017
by Jim Hoft

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Last week it was reported that President Trump’s son in law and assistant in the White House, Jared Kushner, flew to Saudi Arabia but the purpose of his trip was kept confidential. According to the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5030007/Jared-Kushner-returns-secret-trip-Saudi-Arabia.html)–
Jared Kushner recently returned from an unannounced trip to Saudi Arabia (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/saudi_arabia/index.html) along with a security adviser and Middle East envoy, it has emerged.

Kushner was joined by deputy national security adviser Dina Powell and Middle East envoy Jason Greenblatt, and returned to the US on Saturday by commercial jet, a White House official told Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/29/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-244291).

It’s unclear who Kushner met out there, or what was discussed – and the White House isn’t saying – but a friend of Kushner’s said it was part of a long game to solve the Israel (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/israel/index.html)-Palestine dispute.
Daily Mail also reported that –
Kushner traveled separately from Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who went to the Saudi capital of Riyadh last week to discuss closing down terrorists’ funding.
This past weekend, less than a week later, Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests/future-saudi-king-tightens-grip-on-power-with-arrests-including-prince-alwaleed-idUSKBN1D506P)that Saudi Arabia’s future king arrested a number of prominent individuals in anti-corruption arrests –
Saudi Arabia’s future king has tightened his grip on power through an anti-corruption purge by arresting royals, ministers and investors including billionaire Alwaleed bin Talal who is one of the kingdom’s most prominent businessmen.
Reuters reports that –
Prince Alwaleed, a nephew of the king and owner of investment firm Kingdom Holding, invests in firms such as Citigroup and Twitter. He was among 11 princes, four ministers and tens of former ministers detained, three senior officials told Reuters on Sunday.

The purge against the kingdom’s political and business elite also targeted the head of the National Guard, Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, who was detained and replaced as minister of the powerful National Guard by Prince Khaled bin Ayyaf.

The allegations against Prince Alwaleed include money laundering, bribery and extorting officials, one official told Reuters, while Prince Miteb is accused of embezzlement, hiring ghost employees and awarding contracts to his own companies including a $10 billion deal for walkie talkies and bulletproof military gear worth billions of Saudi riyals.
What Reuters does not share is that Prince Alwaleed is the second largest shareholder at Twitter (https://qz.com/519388/this-saudi-prince-now-owns-more-of-twitter-than-jack-dorsey-does/). He also reportedly was behind millions in donations to the Clinton Foundation (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html).

We also know from WikiLeaks emails that Hillary and creepy John Podesta, her campaign manager, knew that Saudis and Qatar were funding ISIS –


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So the Saudi Prince who is related to the Clintons and Twitter was just placed under arrest for money laundering, bribery and extorting officials and notably these arrests come right after President Trump’s son in law visited Saudi Arabia. If Kushner had something to do with putting a corrupt Hillary-loving Prince behind bars – well done!

THE GATEWAY PUNDIT (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/jared-kushner-flies-to-saudi-arabia-last-week-this-week-corrupt-hillary-supporting-prince-arrested-coincidence/)

[TargeT]

so who's the guy in the back on the right in the suit? He looked like more security to me.. maybe this was just them moving into position? The group in front certainly seemed like they were actively escorting someone, though the formation wasn't clearly centered on anyone that I could see.

[TrumanCash]

so who's the guy in the back on the right in the suit? He looked like more security to me.. maybe this was just them moving into position? The group in front certainly seemed like they were actively escorting someone, though the formation wasn't clearly centered on anyone that I could see.

Kevin covers that in the video interview above (#972) by Scott Binsack at 1:42:20. Essentially, he says that the guy in the suit on the right at the rear is Tropicana security (Kevin thought his name is "Matthew" indicating that he recognized him) and the guy on the left that some think is Mohammed bin Salman is probably off-duty cop or off-duty Tropicana security according to Kevin. Kevin indicates the armed group went out the front door while the two guys in the rear went to the front desk.

[cursichella1]

Joseph P. Farrell, Ph.D, does a weekly 15 minute "News and Views From the Nefarium", generally covering one topic at a time by trying to get to the truth behind mainstream media spin.

Today's covers the Las Vegas shooting's possiible connection to Saudia Arabia and it is mind-blowing, to put it mildly.

For starters, the Vegas shooting was possibly a distraction from an assassination attempt on the life of King Salman and/or his son, the Crowned Prince Mohammed. Pollack was a helicopter pilot and arms runner. and ultimately, a patsy. Lots more.

If only half of Farrell's admitted speculation is correct, the implications are MASSIVE.

RUoL2VjSyp8

[TrumanCash]

Joe Napoli returns to Las Vegas for the first time since his experience at the Route 91 Harvest Festival on October 1. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2Tlm_hcb8)

This is an interesting walk around the Festival area by a man who survived the shootings. Though his memory and emotions were triggered during the walk he found it therapeutic and recommended that other survivors do the same.

He gives credible support to the idea that the initial sounds were not fireworks like so many people at the concert thought, but that they were actually gun fire. He also indicates that some of the gun fire was very close--either by the strip or inside the concert area.

They walk north into the parking by the Tropicana Club Tower and Joe shows where he saw shell casings in the parking lot as they were running.

Toward the end of the video and into the second video they try to go to the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay casino but are denied entry by a security guard.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2Tlm_hcb8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10W1JaJpMw

[Frenchy]

The group in front certainly seemed like they were actively escorting someone, though the formation wasn't clearly centered on anyone that I could see.

Hi Target, The armed uniform at Left-hand rear ; is covering the rear: How about the ' Mohican ', centre forward ? He seems to be not fielding a weapon - could he be a commander ? ? ? All other eyes are outwardly scanning...

And his stance, posture indicates some one in command ?

[TrumanCash]

Concert Shooting Goer Says "NO WAY THERE WAS ONLY ONE SHOOTER!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_hELRLcIfE)

Vegas residents, Corinne and Taylor, at the concert describe in detail their experience. Corinne insists there were more multiple shooters.

Corinne: "Like I said, there was definitely someone on the ground....They kept coming. That's the thing. It wasn't that--okay, let's all leave and now it's okay. No. We all started running and they came in. That's why there's no physically, humanly possible way that that guy, that was the only shooter. If you were where we were and how we were hidden and the way they came in and herded us all out--out in the top(?) parking lot and continued shooting into the top(?) parking lot."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_hELRLcIfE

[TrumanCash]

⚡New Las Vegas Shooting Mystery Missing Windows on All Sides of Mandalay Bay Pics from 10 09 17 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pJHmpnWok)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pJHmpnWok

[TrumanCash]

Three Guys Out of Nowhere (Las Vegas Shooting) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5kCJgit9aw&feature=youtu.be)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5kCJgit9aw&feature=youtu.be

Rense Analysis Of Stunning Video Showing 2-3 Man Armed
Kill Team Taking Positions On Top Of RV - Photos (http://rense.com/general96/RVshooterB.html) [More pics and analysis at this link]

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[Cidersomerset]

Aprox 2 mins in Alex is introducing the next segment and
he says it is the Islamists that were involved in LV shooting.
Its only a brief couple of sentences but interesting he is
still saying it........



Roger Stone Broke The Al Franken Sexual Assault Story,
Says California Crackdown Is Coming Next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42x2NwruhN8

Published on 16 Nov 2017
Roger Stone joins Alex Jones and Millie Weaver to claim his due
credit for calling the Al Franken sexual assault story 12 hours
before MSM and predicts California is next for exposed corruption.

[Tintin]

Three Guys Out of Nowhere (Las Vegas Shooting) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5kCJgit9aw&feature=youtu.be)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5kCJgit9aw&feature=youtu.be

Rense Analysis Of Stunning Video Showing 2-3 Man Armed
Kill Team Taking Positions On Top Of RV - Photos (http://rense.com/general96/RVshooterB.html) [More pics and analysis at this link]

http://rense.com/general96/snapsshooter/standingA.jpg

Actually I had already posted these up on the thread (going back into the page 40s or so!) but no harm in them being re-shared of course. Actually I was pretty surprised that most browsers (as in folk) didn't get onto them more quickly. This footage has left me pretty convinced that this may well be the smoking gun. You have to admit that it doesn't get a lot better than this for possibly someone being caught in the act, or at least shortly after the act.

I'm convinced about the 'original' RV 'ninja' (as he has been dubbed in other footage); one of the other supposed persons here is a bit too indistinguishable to be certain that it isn't just some pixellation happening. This is compelling viewing though and leaves one feeling creeped out a bit as well.

[TrumanCash]

New Details on Mercenary Op in Vegas to Be Released Friday - Las Vegas Shooting Part 40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mVfJ4hFLA) -- Jake Morphonios

Jake covers harassment he has received apparently due to exposing in his Oct 22nd video the helicopter flight traffic and that one of the helicopters had airplane numbers on it. (Who is able to falsely alter the GPS tracking of air traffic?) This is obviously a key piece of evidence that Jake will be exposing even further today in a video yet to be released.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mVfJ4hFLA

Here is the Oct 22nd helicopter analysis video below. At 9:35 in the video Jake discusses the police helicopter (N911WY) that flies around the area and Mandalay Bay specifically after the concert shooting. At about 11:10 in the video Jake shows the video of this helicopter passing between Mandalay Bay and Luxor and then heading south between Mandalay Bay and the Mandalay Bay large sign by the strip where that video ends.

Some people are believing that while this chopter is passing in front of Mandalay Bay gun flashes occur at one of the roof tops of the northeast stairstep looking building at Luxor next to W Reno Ave and across the street from Excalibur.

However, I carefully examined these flashes and it appears that this is simply a reflection from the flashing tail light from the police helicopter. The alleged muzzle flashes occur exactly in sync with the flashes from the helicopter tail light as it moves toward the large Mandalay sign where the video ends. Additionally, one can see the reflection of this tail light moving across the windows above this roof top before the brief flashes occur near the edge of the roof top (apparently on the windows below) which some believe are muzzle flashes.

Another point to consider is that these reflection flashes are large like the helicopter flashing light reflections on Mandalay Bay before and during the passing of this helicopter. I do not think that muzzle flashes would appear to be so large given the size of the buildings and distance from the video camera or phone.

This police helicopter is another example of the two flashing white lights--tail and lower front--that appears to be pretty much standard safety lights for helicopters. I've repeatedly noticed people equating these helicopter flashing lights with muzzle flashes without having any evidence of such. In fact I have found no credible evidence of any helicopter gun firing. However, it may very well be that one or more helicopters dropped off and/or extracted shooters from rooftops around the area.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqRD0SH0jGI

[TrumanCash]

Mercenary Inside the Delano - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation - Part 41 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTvye05Ehg)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTvye05Ehg

[Tintin]

Mercenary Inside the Delano - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation - Part 41 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTvye05Ehg)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTvye05Ehg

I'm looking forward to future segments that Jake has shortlisted for this weekend. He's one of the heroic researchers out there; quite brilliant actually.

[TrumanCash]

Yes, Jake Morphonios is a real investigative reporter. I wish there were more like him. He creates professional video reports and is a good presenter. I hope he is getting enough donations to continue his research and reporting since YouTube is working against him.

Another Vegas investigator/reporter is Jason Goodman who just released a video containing an HD video of the armed detail at the Tropicana which definitely shows that the man in question was not "prince" Mohammed bin Salman (video below). Apparently, he is a security person for the Tropicana by the name of Jason Buff and he is walking beside another security person, which was identified by Kevin who was interviewed twice by independent investigator Scott Binsack.

Most of the information on this is at the start of the video. Jason Goodman later addresses the lawsuit against him by Robert David Steele. It appears that Jake Morphonios is not the only one being harassed for independent research on the Vegas massacre.

This video is the most clear video I've seen so far.

"Crowdsourcing across the internet has shown the individual leaving Tropicana was NOT Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. No evidence exists that he was even in Las Vegas October 1." -- Jason Goodman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH70jgF0rLk

[mountain_jim]

Good work. I guess I am back to square one in wondering who, what, and why about this event.

[TrumanCash]

EXCLUSIVE: FBI Seized Tropicana Video During Las Vegas Massacre (https://www.trunews.com/article/exclusive-fbi-seized-tropicana-video-during-las-vegas-massacre) -- Edward Szall, TruNews

So far all I could find regarding this armed detail is that the story and video originated on the public radio KPCC, Southern California Public Radio here (https://www.scpr.org/news/2017/10/02/76230/more-than-50-people-dead-after-mass-shooting-on-la/).

According to the KPCC's October 2nd web page: "This video, showing a SWAT team entering the Tropicana hotel following the shooting, was provided to KPCC and filmed by Jay Paloma of Cerritos".

I do not know how credible TruNews is but Edward Szall reported:

"VERO BEACH, FL (TruNews) While gunshots were still being fired on the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Festival from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay, a seven man team, led by an FBI agent, tactically and expeditiously moved through the casino area of the Tropicana toward the hotel's primary security office." [Oct. 19, 2017]

"As chaos and blood flowed on the streets of the Las Vegas strip, a SWAT team was sent by the FBI to the Tropicana Las Vegas Hotel and Casino to secure and confiscate their surveillance footage of the massacre."

"According to a senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation, the seven man team was comprised of one FBI tactical officer, standing in the back left of the formation, and six officers from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department who were drafted last minute for this impromptu raid."

"Their mission, according to the senior official, was to secure the video footage being captured from the Tropicana's south facing external surveillance cameras, which were recording an unparalleled high definition view of the massacre from beginning to end."

"The Tropicana hotel is approximately 2,100ft from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay and under 1,000ft from the center of the concert area where the majority of victims were shot on October 1."

"Cameras placed near the top of the Tropicana's southern most tower would have had an unobstructed view of Steven Paddock's room while he was firing on the crowd."

"Regarding the two additional individuals seen in the back of the police formation in the Tropicana, the senior official confirmed they were employees of the hotel, and that the bag the man in shorts was carrying contained between $2.5 and $3 million in casino chips."

I have not been able to verify this information from any other source. Edward Szall did not give any sources for the information above so it may be another false lead or it may be true.

[Hervé]

Hmmm... why would a swat team be "protecting" the mohawk guy that's carrying a stretcher be set to secure video tapes/USBs?

[TrumanCash]

More Details On the Mandalay Casino Mercenary - Las Vegas Shooting Part 42 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyv3QE_J-Ag)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyv3QE_J-Ag

[TrumanCash]

Machine Gun Fire Inside Casino + Shooting Drill - Las Vegas Investigation Part 43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeGwX-KOmls)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeGwX-KOmls

[neutronstar]

Good work. I guess I am back to square one in wondering who, what, and why about this event.

This is interesting and makes a lot of sense. Joseph connecting dots.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUoL2VjSyp8

I see this was already posted. sorry

[Omni]

The society you see now is a product of mkultra. I am predicting there will be further mass murders with allegedly "mentally ill" mkultra'd patsies so they can further social engineer mental illness paradigms with cointelpro, in the direction of social fascism.

[TrumanCash]

I agree, Omni, I think MKultra is definitely a factor in the Las Vegas shootings. I also agree with Jake Morphonios that it is appropriate to use the word "private mercenaries" and this was a secret conspiracy as well. That level of operations would imply use of MKUltra to be able to mind control people to massacre innocent people, IMO.

I met two Vietnam vets who had been MKUltra'd to kill innocent civilians in Vietnam in savage ways. One of those men was a friend who was at the My Lai massacre. MKUltra victims' memories usually start returning about thirty years after the initial programming if not sooner. He tried to tell what he had done at My Lai due to the programming but broke down and cried. He could not even speak it! And he is a pretty tough guy.

Here is Jake Morphonios' latest video:

Private Military Companies (Mercenaries) - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation - Part 44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y1jqOCjc4)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y1jqOCjc4

[Flash]

Wow!! This Morphonios is gooood! What a thorough analysis.

What surprised me is that he says that Trump is supporting the young Prince Salman who is a fervent coup organiser and cia approved, all in tow of the Rothschild whichever way you look at it.

And that this Salman will make war with Iran, happy trigger and Rotschild puppet.

I thought Hilary would push for WW3, which she would have. and that Trump was just another lower rank inner fight for power , the big bosses remaining the same always.

Morphonios confirms my suspicions but with thorough research.

We, citizens, have to refuse war at all time. This is probably the only way to circumvent the Rotschilds and above.

Trump or Hilary, we are doomed, they and we are all puppets as long as we refuse to wake up


I agree, Omni, I think MKultra is definitely a factor in the Las Vegas shootings. I also agree with Jake Morphonios that it is appropriate to use the word "private mercenaries" and this was a secret conspiracy as well. That level of operations would imply use of MKUltra to be able to mind control people to massacre innocent people, IMO.

I met two Vietnam vets who had been MKUltra'd to kill innocent civilians in Vietnam in savage ways. One of those men was a friend who was at the My Lai massacre. MKUltra victims' memories usually start returning about thirty years after the initial programming if not sooner. He tried to tell what he had done at My Lai due to the programming but broke down and cried. He could not even speak it! And he is a pretty tough guy.

Here is Jake Morphonios' latest video:

Private Military Companies (Mercenaries) - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation - Part 44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y1jqOCjc4)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y1jqOCjc4

[Hervé]

[...]
I met two Vietnam vets who had been MKUltra'd to kill innocent civilians in Vietnam in savage ways. One of those men was a friend who was at the My Lai massacre. MKUltra victims' memories usually start returning about thirty years after the initial programming if not sooner. He tried to tell what he had done at My Lai due to the programming but broke down and cried. He could not even speak it! And he is a pretty tough guy.
[...]
Thanks for that very significant piece of info, Truman.

It helps shed some light on some of the reasons for that "PTSD" epidemic because of that other piece of info researched by Dr. Kevin Barrett:


[...]
In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).
Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)
[...]
In short, MKultra are the various ways of turning any run-of-the-mill Joe-six-pack into a psychopath... which gets us back to Carolyn Hamlett's controllers' "plan":


From Carolyn Hamlett via More Massacres Until Gun Laws Enacted - Insider (http://www.henrymakow.com/insider-shootings-will.html):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png I speak from my experience of being born and raised in the globalist organization, taught this plan to take over America and bring America to ruin.

When I was a small child in the 1950's, I knew these types of shootings would be happening just prior to the beginning of the planned chaos.

I also know that the globalist organization has been programming multitudes of individuals at least since the early 1950's, to be triggered to perpetrate the planned chaos in America and in other locations throughout the world.

Many of these programmed people are what I call "sleepers" because they are totally unaware that they have been programmed.

The programming is dormant until the inner clock is triggered which engages the program. I believe that the movie, "Avatar" contains such triggers. I haven't seen the Batman movie, but I suspect it also contains triggers. [...]
However, pretty soon, there won't be any need for humans but for programmers: Horrific 'Slaughterbots' Drones (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100657-Horrific-Slaughterbots-Drones)

[Cidersomerset]

There has not been much in the mainstream , I just saw this on Fox which at first
glance seemed another victim follow up, but does show the investigators are still
going with Paddock did it alone and we may never know the reason why. The
reporter at the end does say that the lack of information has sparked all sorts of
conspiracy theories , which the authorities say are not true.

So they are reading/watching the alt news , blogs and articles....

Questions remain about the Las Vegas massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0699FEuvtoE
Published on 21 Nov 2017
Investigators are still trying to determine whether Paddock acted alone.

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Private Military Companies (Mercenaries) - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation - Part 44

Mercenaries are probably as old as human warfare......The Persians hired Greeks,
The Carthaginians hired Libyans , The Romans hired everyone and so on ,
mercenaries were common all through recorded military history .....

The British army still has a Gurkha brigade , the French foreign legion are a sort of
mercenary force .Even the Pope has the Swiss guard. Hollywood has made movies
about them and they are alive and well and fighting all over the world today in
various guises.

====================================================

10 MAD AS HELL MERCENARY MOVIES
by Peter · Published November 11, 2011 · Updated March 12, 2016

https://www.furiouscinema.com/10-mad-as-hell-mercenary-movies/

Contractors/mercenaries would be useful forces to use in an assassination attempt
if that is what happened in Las Vegas.They are capable of indiscriminate shooting
so the civilians in the crowd would not be a problem for these hardened professional
killers.

The Blackwater Shooting (2007) | The New York Times

L7sJitp1ZUk
Published on 28 Aug 2014
In this 2007 video, witnesses shed light on the killing of 17 Iraqis by American contractors in Baghdad.

[TrumanCash]

Witnesses of Multiple Gunmen Fear for Their Lives - Las Vegas Shooting Part 45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGw1rThRFrA)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGw1rThRFrA

[TrumanCash]

This is an interesting account from Australian couriermail.com (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/las-vegas-shooting-queensland-eyewitness-to-mandalay-attack/news-story/17c907f4046f30ccfedf831e27e93cc8) that raises the question of whether someone involved with the shooting was disguised as a security guard or if it was simply a security guard running for his life.

Wendy Miller from Cooroy, on the Sunshine Coast, was also caught up in the attack.

She was at a bar in the nearby Luxor Hotel with her husband when she saw what she described as a “man of interest” run by.

“We managed to make our way back to our room…” she told The Courier-Mail.

“We are in lock down.

“Our door is dead locked and a chair against the door.”

Ms Miller said the man sprinted through her hotel [Luxor] after coming off an escalator from the Mandalay Bay.

“The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.


Another Australian appears to back up Jake Morphonios' videos regarding the happenings in the Mandalay Bay casino that connects to the Delano:

Pat Shaw of Tamborine, south of Brisbane, said he and his five mates, who are in the US to attend a drag racing event, were playing roulette at the Mandalay Bay casino when a stream of people started running past their table, including police officers and members of the SWAT team.

Mr Shaw told The Courier-Mail that he had heard the gunshots but hadn’t realised exactly what the sound was until he saw police enter the room.

“We heard it but didn’t realise (what the noise was) until all the SWAT ran past with their shields,” he said.

“As it happened we heard the staff and security say they think there is a shooter out the front and then (they said) it was up on a high level, shooting down at the Route 91 music festival.”

Mr Shaw said everyone was ordered out of the gaming area and into a secure lockdown zone where they remained for several hours.

At one point the group watched as eight police vehicles suddenly arrived in the lockdown area and medics rushed into the Mandalay Bay.

Later, after police announced that a gunman had been shot and killed by authorities, Mr Shaw and his friends were told they were able to leave the lockdown zone and return to their own hotel.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/fa28a5ab4fc84e099a2540237ab2cd2b?width=1024

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/294f517dff8976cb26cc07603ef0778b?width=650

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/f65ae592ee2a803f1f3cef11c55ab71a?width=316


Another Australian man staying at the Mandalay Bay Resort has spoken about his close call with the Las Vegas gunman - claiming he launched his murderous attack from the room next door.

Australian Brian Hodge, who previously worked at Jupiters Casino on the Gold Coast, claimed he was staying in the room next to the shooter on level 32 at the Las Vegas resort.

He said he managed to escape the initial horrific scenes inside the hotel but found himself forced to hide in a bush for several hours after the event.

“I got outside safely and was hiding in bushes,” Mr Hodge said.

“There were multiple people dead and multiple shooters. I was just hiding waiting for police to come get us.

“We were hiding in the bushes outside waiting for the police.” Mr Hodge said he was staying in room 32134 while the gunman was in room 32135.

“It was a machine gun from the room next to me,” he said.

“My floor is a crime scene. They killed a security guard on my floor.”