Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[Eric J (Viking)]

http://www.disclose.tv/news/las_vegas_active_shooter_near_mandalay_bay_casino

Police are responding to reports of an active shooter on the Las Vegas strip.

There are believed to be multiple casualties after a gunman opened fire at the Mandalay Bay casino.


Some reports suggested some 20 bodies were found inside one location of the shooting scene.

We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/las-vegas-shooter-mandalay-bay-11272899

Viking

[sllim11]

"LAS VEGAS, Nevada (Reuters) - A gunman opened fire at a country music festival on the Las Vegas Strip on Sunday, killing at least 20 people and wounding more than 100 others before the suspect was killed by police."


http://http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-lasvegas-shooting/at-least-20-killed-at-shooting-rampage-at-las-vegas-concert-idUSKCN1C70FU?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Flowerpunkchip]

I saw in one interview that it was said that there were 2 gunmen. I'll try to find it

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[Lifebringer]

I just woke up out of sleep and caught the beginnings this morning around 3am. Sad.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Who Was The Mystery Lady? Threats Made 45 Minutes Before Shots Fired In Las Vegas

http://m.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/234325/who_was_the_mystery_lady/

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

UK TV now saying more than 50 dead.. :-(

Viking

[sllim11]

Police Identify Vegas Shooting Suspect as Stephen C. Paddock

"The man suspected of shooting and killing at least 20 people Sunday evening at a concert in Las Vegas has been identified as Stephen C. Paddock, a 64-year-old Nevada resident. According to reports, Paddock lived in a retirement community in nearby Mesquite, and police confirmed they are pursuing his companion, named as Marilou Danley, who also shares his residence. Officials confirmed the gunman was dead. Paddock allegedly opened fire from a window on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel and casino, across from where the outdoor Route 91 Harvest Music Festival was taking place. At least 50 people were killed and 100+ are injured, per reports."


http://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-c-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-police-nbc

NOW THEY ARE SAYING 50 DEAD...

Gunman Kills At Least 50 at Las Vegas Concert in Deadliest Mass Shooting in U.S. History

http://www.thedailybeast.com/multiple-people-shot-at-las-vegas-music-festival

[KiwiElf]

Yep, the number dead has now been raised to 50+... 200 injured, 64 year old shooter

[Cidersomerset]

RAW VIDEO: Police give update on mass shooting in Las Vegas

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
More than 50 people are dead in Las Vegas.

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Sounds like a war zone.....

Las Vegas: prolonged automatic gunfire could be heard - BBC News

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Moment deadly Las Vegas shooting breaks out caught on camera - RT News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPgZvB6cfbE


A gunman, named as 64-year-old local resident Stephen Paddock, opened fire from
the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel towards an open-air music festival.


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Las Vegas shooting: 50 people killed in Mandalay Bay attack

9 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

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Hundreds of concert-goers fled the scene or ducked for cover amid heavy gunfire

At least 50 people have been killed and another 200 have been wounded in a mass
shooting at a Las Vegas concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqRsJvOKhE

A gunman, named as 64-year-old local resident Stephen Paddock, opened fire from
the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel towards an open-air music festival.

He was shot dead by officers in the hotel where a number of guns were found.

The attack is the worst mass shooting in recent US history.

Sheriff Joe Lombardo described the shooting as a "lone wolf" attack. He added that
police were now confident they had located a woman, earlier named as Marilou Danley,
who was suspected of travelling with the gunman before the attack.

Sheriff Lombardo said he was unable to give accurate details of dead and wounded,
but confirmed two off-duty police officers were among those killed.


read more...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116

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Man describes saving best friend from Vegas shooting

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Mike Cronk's friend survived after being shot three times in the chest.

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'It just didn't stop' witnesses describe Vegas shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hy-Cc9-S9o

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Adam Housley reports from Las Vegas

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Las Vegas Shooting Live Coverage: At least 50 dead, 200 injured Near Music Festival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0CeJnVLXoY

Las Vegas Deadly Shooting, LIVE CBSN Coverage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDnp5LB2P4

Live: NBC News Special Report on Las Vegas Shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDnp5LB2P4

[Gaia]

The rate of fire there on the video is a sickening sound. No civilian would ever need a weapon capable of such devastating destruction.


Madrid / Brussels must be loving this deflection away from Catalonia today.

f it was real millenials would be posting their injuries on instagram!
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/914728299535859713/pu/vid/720x1280/n3JJW2wuv3TIzjkk.mp4

[Flowerpunkchip]

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This man said his friend was shot 3 times in the chest.
I believe him but I must say that I'm surprised that this was so with such a distance from the shooter with no minimal time gap between shots.
I'm no expert but I would have thought the recoil from automatic fire wouldn't allow this to happen.
I hope someone here can explain it.
Was the rifle on a fixed bipod?
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[Gaia]

Who Was The Mystery Lady? Threats Made 45 Minutes Before Shots Fired In Las Vegas

http://m.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/234325/who_was_the_mystery_lady/

Viking

Maybe something s..... FEMA drill advertised on crowds on demand...


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Full interview with witness here :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940216/Woman-heard-shouting-threat-massacre-Vegas.html#v-7867559514489207967


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This woman supposedly screamin in the crowd 'They're all around...You're all going to f***ing die today' just 45 minutes before a gunman opened fire at a Las Vegas...

[Wind]

What's left to say when these things tend to happen all the time in US?

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[Cidersomerset]

I must admit one of first thoughts was this would be an ideal excuse to
round up automatic weapons.

what you need to know about new gun laws for 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecmviwDoF94

Published on 22 Dec 2016
At Pacific Outfitters in Ukiah, managing partner Chris Ostrom uses an AR-10
rifle during a Dec. 21, 2016 demonstration about how gun owners must modify
semiautomatic rifles to comply with new laws taking effect in 2017. Video
by Julie Johnson.

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President Trump reacts to deadly Las Vegas mass shooting

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
President Trump tweets his warmest condolences and sympathies to victims.

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Brother Of Shooter Says There Were No Warning Signs | Morning Joe | MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP20r2Sr1dI
Published on 2 Oct 2017
NBC News investigations reporter Tracy Connor spoke with the brother of Las Vegas
gunman, Stephen Paddock. The brother expressed shock over what is now the
country's deadliest mass shooting.

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LasVegasShooting: Causes, Claims, Casuistry, Social Media Brilliance and Alt-Left MSM Cowardice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3k0M7y7fsc
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Fifty killed, over 200 injured. It was insanity and insanity is the culprit. The lone culprit.

[Gaia]

XO5EnT60g3E
This man said his friend was shot 3 times in the chest.
I believe him but I must say that I'm surprised that this was so with such a distance from the shooter with no minimal time gap between shots.
I'm no expert but I would have thought the recoil from automatic fire wouldn't allow this to happen.
I hope someone here can explain it.
Was the rifle on a fixed bipod?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/65C2/production/_98105062_mandalay_bay_hotel_shooting_640map_v2-nc.png


Hummm... start the vid at 5:56, I'm not sure if this is real or fake yet.

I'm the mother of 2 millenials if it was real millenials like those in the vids they would be posting their injuries on Instagram! There is none!  Strange...!?!

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[Gaia]

I got it!! a girl at 0:40 with a white dress took a selfie of her self...

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[Smell the Roses]

I always assume it's staged unless proven otherwise. If not staged, the government is to blame anyway via the current state of our "culture". Looks like I will have to go on another news blackout until they stop pretending to care about this more than any of the other well over fifty deaths that happened that day. God bless the souls of anyone who left the Earth in the last 24 hours. Catch you on the other side. :heart:

[Cidersomerset]

There is obviously a lot of chaos in the initial reports of these events and
the Trump administration is being tested in many different directions to
its response's . This event was to honour veterans and it should be
pointed out that ISIS has claimed responsibility for many incidents.

The shooter is reported to have killed himself before police could get to him,
which ties up the suspect in a neat bow.


ISIS claims responsibility for Las Vegas shooting massacre

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Terror group says suspect Stephen Paddock was 'soldier' who converted
to Islam months ago; John Roberts reports from the White House.

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Singer at Las Vegas festival: 'It was horrific'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXabDdM85-s

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Kaya Jones was on stage with Big and Rich before gunman opened fire

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President Trump Gives Remarks ........5 mins..

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
The White House


Washington Post...
The Latest: Trump orders flags at half-staff for Las Vegas

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/the-latest-trump-calls-las-vegas-shooting-act-of-evil/2017/10/02/905ddfc4-a782-11e7-9a98-07140d2eed02_story.html?utm_term=.301b0ff7f928

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NY Times....
The Latest: Trump Orders Flags at Half-Staff for Las Vegas
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/10/02/us/politics/ap-us-trump-las-vegas-shooting-the-latest.html?mcubz=0

https://timpanogos.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/flag-at-half-mast-over-white-house-reagans-death6-5-2004-cr-mike-lynaugh.jpg

[Kindred]

All this sounds very familiar, as I'm certain that many of us on the forum also feel. In 2012, at the time of the Sandy Hook Hoax, there was a great deal of concern and outrage.

Due to an 'incident/communication' I had experienced/received just a few months before, I was able to provide an interesting insight relative to this, and other 'lone wolf' shootings that occur, both in the US, as well as abroad. As it's somewhat lengthy, I'll provide the link rather than reposting: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=599305&viewfull=1#post599305

In Unity, Peace and Love

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Latest news say 50+ dead and 500+ injured and the gunman shot himself, he was already dead as the police arrived.

[FictionLReality]

ISIS claims responsibility for Las Vegas shooting massacre

EJGHT18isiE
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Terror group says suspect Stephen Paddock was 'soldier' who converted
to Islam months ago; John Roberts reports from the White House

So in reality CIA OP then?

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I always assume it's staged unless proven otherwise. If not staged, the government is to blame anyway via the current state of our "culture". Looks like I will have to go on another news blackout until they stop pretending to care about this more than any of the other well over fifty deaths that happened that day. God bless the souls of anyone who left the Earth in the last 24 hours. Catch you on the other side. :heart:

I know multiple people that where there. Definitely Not Staged... False Flag ? TBD....

[FictionLReality]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/65C2/production/_98105062_mandalay_bay_hotel_shooting_640map_v2-nc.png

hmmmm.... the mass shooting takes place in front of the black Pyramid with Light cap on top 'Luxor Hotel'.... Coincidence? Message?

[Cidersomerset]

So in reality CIA OP then?

Who knows at this stage ? just following the usual pattern of these events whether
staged or a genuine shooter with a grievance , innocent people die at these events.
9/11 ,7/7 & others, false flags or not many innocents were murdered at each.


Update....

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Las Vegas shooting: At least 58 dead at Mandalay Bay Hotel


At least 58 people have been killed and hundreds injured in a mass shooting at a
Las Vegas concert.A gunman, named as 64-year-old Nevada resident Stephen
Paddock, opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel towards an
open-air music festival attended by 22,000.

He killed himself as police stormed the room where 10 guns were found.In an
address from the White House, President Donald Trump described the attack
as "pure evil".

Read More.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116

[ghostrider]

With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...

[friamin]

With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...
Golf Bag. I've never had mine checked before.

[Gaia]

Apparently it's Russia when it comes to voting. ISIS when it comes to k1ll1ng.

This claim today describes the shooter in Las Vegas as a “soldier” of the Isis, who converted to Islam several months ago. This is theoretically possible of course but seems far fetched, not least because he committed suicide.

“It was an act of pure evil.'' Donald Trump said earlier sound déja vu for me...

[Helene West]

Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....

[Cidersomerset]

Apparently it's Russia when it comes to voting. ISIS when it comes to k1ll1ng.

You reminded me of an article I saw earlier, Russia has a large muslim minority in
the southern regions and is why they are worried about ISIS in the Middle East.
Many fighters have joined from Russia and they are worried when they return home
and have been fighting terrorism for decades, Not that the western press in
general would let their readers know.They are more interested in a corporate
'bogey' man for the mil ind complex's. Not that Russia does not have it faults.

ISIS 'sleeper cell' neutralized in Moscow - FSB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3bBy6d3SQ

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Federal Security Service (FSB) has detained in Moscow members
of a ‘sleeper cell’ of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) who
planned to carry out terrorist attacks in public places,

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The 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution is this October, Alex has
been predicting TPTB will be making a move on Trump. Who knows ? But they
do like dates.....Alex can be dramatic but he and his sources have been saying
this for a while.

Alex Jones Predicted Vegas Attack On Friday

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
On the Friday edition of The Alex Jones Show, Alex predicted that early October the
revolution would start and build up to Nov 4th.

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Antifa VS The United States November Fourth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jokq-0Eyuk

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Alex Jones, Doug Hagmann, and Larry Pinkney break down the coming civil war
event planned by Antifa and all of its nefarious conspirators against the American
people on November 4th, 2017.

[FictionLReality]

Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....

Video showing possible gunfire from a lower floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1496703983718626&id=100001371177240

Edit: Need FB account to see video ... after looking at it again, it may just be the angle of video that makes it look like shots were being fired from a lower floor of the Hotel

[Nasu]

I must admit one of first thoughts was this would be an ideal excuse to
round up automatic weapons.

what you need to know about new gun laws for 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecmviwDoF94

What a terrible situation. The above video is not the laws for Nevada or the US, just the new laws for California for 2017. Nevada has some relatively loose gun laws compared to other parts of the country. Even so, there is a federal background check for such automatic weapons, plus the cost is prohibitive for most people interested in shooting, for either sport or hunting. For example, cost of paperwork aside, a semi automatic AR10 in 308 cal, like in the video above goes for under $3000 whereas a fully automatic rifle of the same caliber / type would go for between $20,000 to $70,000 depending on brand etc.

It is very rare to hear of a fully automatic weapon being used in a mass shooting, it's the first time I have heard of it in the past ten years. The weapons in his room could easily have been in pieces and stored in regular luggage, the longest part being the barrel, depending on the gun from 16 to 25 inches, so very easily concealable, a golf bag would clearly go unnoticed, especially if he moved them from his vehicle in the early hours.

I'm not making a case for defending the ownership of fully automatic weapons, not my cup of tea, but banning them would not have stopped ANY of the mass shootings of the last decade. Much as banning pocket knives in the UK did not stop those crazies on London bridge recently who used kitchen knives. Mind you, the numbers would have been far less.. Crazies find a way, that's why they are so hard to catch. On the face of it, it does seem to be a crazy lone wolf type situation. However the woman declaring that everyone will die over thirty minutes before it happened raises big alarm bells and red flags for sure. My thoughts and prayers go to the families of those wounded or killed. What a terrible situation.... N

[waves]

BIGGEST instant clue to me now - when the 'shooter' is immediately reported as dead.

A dead shooter relieves 'officials' from all sorts of explaining problems and lets them get away with saying anything they want about who and why, let alone any trial.

We will NEVER REALLY KNOW if ANYTHING being said about WHO has any shred of truth.

Media is being told what to say. PERIOD.

So far I've already read conflicting reports that 'the shooter' was killed by police and that he committed suicide.

To me a dead 'shooter' means that it's very likely something huge other than ANY reported accounting of the person/story is hidden.

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm looking at the distance from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel to where the outdoor gig was being held, and to where the crowd were. I'm thinking that the accuracy of an AR-15-type weapon, at that distance, would be well outside of the envelope.

Also, when listening to video of the shots being fired, I'm sure I'm hearing two different weapons. There is a low-level thud-thud type report (maybe an AK or similar) and then the more familiar crack-crack of an AR-type weapon.

[Nasu]

I'm looking at the distance from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel to where the outdoor gig was being held, and to where the crowd were. I'm thinking that the accuracy of an AR-15-type weapon, at that distance, would be well outside of the envelope.

Also, when listening to video of the shots being fired, I'm sure I'm hearing two different weapons. There is a low-level thud-thud type report (maybe an AK or similar) and then the more familiar crack-crack of an AR-type weapon.

I agree. A very long shot indeed. Especially for a 223 cal / 5.56 cal (AR15 / SAW) or 7.62 cal (AK47 / 74). He would have had to have held the aim point much much, much higher than the targets to just hit anything, never mind actually aiming accurately. But with an automatic rifle that would be relatively easy to do, even without tracer ammunition to guide your shots. It was a huge crowd, like shooting at fish in a barrel.

You may be right about the AK / AR, but it sounds like a SAW to me, (M249) but with the buildings all around the acoustics could throw the sound off as well as muffle or echo the rapport of the shots. Horrible, truly evil... N

[waves]

With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...

Because it's more likely absolutely nothing about the shooter happened as reported. Were there eight rifles?? Did someone 'check into the hotel'? Were there two platforms? IT'S A STORY.

I have now learned to view ALL these extreme events as if EVERYTHING you are hearing from the media is fiction and/or a twisted fact. I suggest we all completely forget taking anything at face value instantly right now... and instead take note of the unsubstantiated claims and cracks in the narrative that will start to show.

[pueblo]

Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....

Video showing possible gunfire from a lower floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1496703983718626&id=100001371177240

Edit: Need FB account to see video ... after looking at it again, it may just be the angle of video that makes it look like shots were being fired from a lower floor of the Hotel

Video here for those without FB..

https://mobile.twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/914793975478870016/video/1

[Helene West]

Pueblo
To my layman's untrained eyes, by the way the lights flash at the same time the sounds go off, it appears to be coming from 3 or 4 different guns / people??

[shaberon]

Just as a quick tangent...you do *not* get a fully automatic weapon just by passing a background check.

It's done by acquiring a fairly expensive type of gun license, that would usually be given to, for example, a business owner, someone who can show they have something big to defend; also, the guards at Federal Reserve branches have them, although that's a little different, even though it basically is a big business with something to defend.

When purchasing as an individual, the permission depends on the Sheriff of your county. So for example in my area, I could make a list of "machine gun" counties, versus others that rarely allow them. On a wild guess, I'd think that Nevada is probably somewhat liberal towards this. Given the age of the suspect, it's not too hard to imagine he might have started collecting the weapons thirty years ago, and after the first one, his Sheriff got used to him and kept approving weapons.

Of course, I don't know what really happened, but the underlying fact of someone hauling around a suitcase of ten automatics or something like that, is not at all surprising.

[Cidersomerset]

Las Vegas Shooting: FBI say "No connection with an international terrorist group"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4L8NVV5_-I
Published on 2 Oct 2017....France 24...

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Las Vegas Shooting: Shooter doesn't fit the classic profile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI_OrAcWNzA
Published on 2 Oct 2017....France 24...

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Brother: Las Vegas shooter had no political associations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpQ298MTr8
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Eric Paddock, the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, tells reporters the
family is dumbstruck as to why the brother would carry out a massacre.

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This is a bit surreal , his brother was forthcoming to the press in the hope it
seems they will leave them alone after this....

‘My Brother Did This…I Couldn’t Be More Dumbfounded’

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
The brother of the Las Vegas shooting suspect spoke to CBS the morning after the
deadly attack on a music festival.

[Foxie Loxie]

Another mind control victim?

[Cidersomerset]

Another mind control victim?

To early to tell but certainly not the full story in yet.......


BREAKING: ANTIFA Literature Found In Shooter's Vegas Hotel Room Says Hostage
Rescue Team ....Alex with Paul Joseph Watson speculating.

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Published on 2 Oct 2017

Alex Jones breaks the news as he receives it live on air: the hostage rescue team
responsible for ending the shooting spree found ANTIFA literature in the shooter's
Las Vegas hotel room.

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White House press briefing, Pres. Trump holds moment of silence after deadly Las Vegas shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIA0KT7SqP0

Streamed live 1 hour ago
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders holds her daily briefing after a tragic
shooting that killed at least 58 and injured more than 500.

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President Trump and The First Lady Lead a Moment of Silence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RJSrc1Uh-M

Published on 2 Oct 2017
The White Housw

[KiwiElf]

Las Vegas Mass Shooting: False Flag, PsyOp & Black Op to Distract

Deep State is getting very desperate

Here’s how we know: “Deadliest Mass Shooting In US History”: At Least 58 Killed, 515 Injured After Shooter Opens Fire At Las Vegas Concert (full article with sublinks here):

http://themillenniumreport.com/

State of the Nation

Special Note:
This extremely well planned and covered up domestic terrorist attack was obviously a false flag operation. However, it was NOT a hoax and this video proves it. In other words, the mass shooting has already been blamed on a disillusioned white guy yet many in attendance have reported multiple shooting locations; so we know it’s a false flag as usual. The patsy is always either killed or commits suicide just before his capture. (Las Vegas massacre suspect Stephen Paddock committed suicide) This tactic quickly closes the book so that the real perpetrators will never be pursued. Again, some are calling this tragic event a hoax; it’s not. Many have died and hundreds are seriously wounded. SOTN extends our deepest condolences to each and every one of their families.

Like so many other staged mass casualty events, this [SHOCKING] shooting staged at the “country music concert in Las Vegas” was deliberate and multi-purposeful.

Because of the immediate floating of a lone-wolf shooter, it’s clear that a patsy was pre-identified to take the rap. Las Vegas Shooting Framed As Lone Wolf With 20 Dead And 100 wounded!

Though there were initial reports of multiple shooters and multiple incidents up and down the Strip, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said at a press conference held at 1:30 a.m. local time that it was believed that there was only one suspect.

That man was killed on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay after officers responded to the shooting. Lombardo said that investigators are looking for the suspect’s roommate, an Asian woman named Marilou Danley.

Lombardo declined to identify the suspect, who he called a “lone wolf.”

Asked about the shooter’s motive, Lombardo said, “We don’t know what his belief system was at this time.”
(Source: Massacre At Mandalay: Las Vegas Gunman Kills At Least 20 At Country Music Concert [VIDEO at link])

The crime scene hasn’t even been thoroughly investigated and the local county sheriff has already called this false flag mass shooting a lone-wolf operation! That, right there, is a dead giveaway.

There is also an increasing trend over the past couple of years whereby these BIG false flag operations are executed at night. The cover of darkness gives the real perps so much more opportunity to cover their tracks and manipulate the crime scene to fit their predetermined narrative.

Why did they do it?

Things have not been going well for the globalists. Their New World Order agenda is in complete disarray.

First, the NFL Kneelgate scandal has really back fired…so much so that the NWO ruling cabal has to change the national conversation. Nothing does that quicker than a mass casualty event (MCE). The NFL crashes and burns! Collapse of the celebrity culture now inevitable.

With the NFL in a free-fall collapse, the globalists were forced to divert the attention of the American people. The institutional responses to the NFL fiasco were particularly impactful with NASCAR completely rejecting the practice of kneeling during the anthem. The NBA likewise sent out a memo banning the same form of protest both individually and collectively. NBA memo warns teams to stand during national anthem ‘OR ELSE’

This sudden reversal of fortune for the globalists was both embarrassing and unexpected which demanded an expeditious response … … … like a horrifying MCE in their view.

Post MARIA Disaster in Puerto Rico

There’s no question that the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico has been transformed into an unparalleled disaster area. The extent of the human catastrophe alone is still unknown because of the inability to get to many parts of the devastated island. Many are unaware that Puerto Rico has experienced 2 major superstorm hits: first from Hurricane Irma; then from Hurricane Maria– the first category 4 to hit the island since 1932.

The key point is that Puerto Rico has been evolving in the direction of a major political football. The Democrats, especially, are attempting to seize any political advantage they can in an effort to tarnish President Trump with his first “Katrina”. SOTN is writing an investigative report on the reality in Puerto Rico and the extent of the political subterfuge being used by the locals. The Democratic San Juan mayor seems to be a major player in these machinations, although a verdict on her official conduct cannot yet be rendered conclusively.

Is the San Juan Mayor blocking hurricane relief or are logistics in Puerto Rico really impossible?

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz,

The bottom line here is that the globalists are clearly using the island Democrats to sabotage Trump’s relief effort. However, the Alt Media is catching some of the more obvious acts of subversion in real time. This is making the cabal’s plan to ruin Trump’s reputation as a compassionate nationalist quite difficult to execute.

With each passing day, successive Trump’s tweetstorms expose this perfidious globalist scheme. Thus, the NWO cabal is compelled to rapidly change the conversation. This is where MCE events like Las Vegas get the job done faster than anything.

Why did TPTB choose a country music concert in Vegas for their massacre?

There are actually many reasons why they carried out this bloodbath at this particular specific venue. Video at link: LAS VEGAS SHOOTING: HORRIFYING FOOTAGE CAUGHT ON CAMERA

As always, the globalists want to take guns from every American citizen. An armed America is the single greatest obstacle toward the establishment of their planned One World Government.

Even more concerning for the power elite is the absolute necessity of disarming the populace BEFORE the controlled demolition of the Global Economic and Financial System. They are well aware, given the raw truth routinely disseminated on the Internet, that the wealthy elites will be in the crosshairs of every patriot, nationalist and militiaman. Not only is the truth out there about the wholesale theft of America’s future by the NWO cabal, anyone who cares to find out exactly who is accountable for the multi-decade crime spree can simply surf the net.

Of course, taking down a LOT of innocent country music fans who tend to be conservative and Christian, patriots and nationalists, Trumpsters and Tea Partiers, was an attempt to sway them toward gun control. The delusion of the globalist was that if the NRA members and hunters were so appalled by this incomparable slaughter perpetrated by multiple snipers in Vegas, they just might demand some form of substantial gun control legislation for their own protection.

Then there is the intention to punish the ever-politically incorrect patriot movement. Bringing such deadly mayhem to a country music venue sends the unequivocal message that the perps can duplicate the unspeakable carnage anywhere, anytime they want to in similar music settings around the country.

There is much more to this strategy which derives directly from NATO’s Operation Gladio. This ongoing “strategy of tension” has been systematically implemented in Europe over decades for the purpose of terrorizing targeted civilian populations in order to produce a specific outcome. NATO’s Secret Armies. Operation GLADIO and the Strategy of Tension

Government-coordinated false flags are now legal

How do the FEDs get away with so many in-your-face attacks on the American people?

These exceedingly violent MCEs have actually been made ‘legal’ by the most recent version of the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act), that was aggressively pushed under Obama.

Yes, this legislation may sound totally insane, and it is; but it is also enshrined by legislation passed by Congress and signed by Obama. As follows:

“FALSE FLAGS” are LEGAL PROPAGANDA PRODUCED by the Department of Defense

The unending spate of mass shootings and bombings is a direct result of this fundamentally unconstitutional and unlawful federal statute. And hardly anyone knows about it!

Conclusion

As this Las Vegas PsyOp continues to unravel in the days ahead, other objectives will make themselves clear.

The very fact that so many were apparently killed and wounded makes this a classic black operation conducted by the C.I.A. in close cooperation with the F.B.I. and local law enforcement.

Whenever an MCE is analyzed so quickly as a lone-wolf mass murder, who could not possibly have shot so many people so swiftly, the U.S. Intelligence Community is obviously behind the whole charade.

Does Deep State really expect US to believe that the “National Security State” is incapable of detecting such transparent acts of domestic terrorism?

State of the Nation
October 2, 2017

Author’s Note

The following video makes clear that at least one person had definitive foreknowledge of this tragic mass shooting in Las Vegas. How did she know? What did she know? Who is she and where is she now? And why did the authorities usher her out so quickly?!

VIDEO (at link): Mystery Lady Warns Las Vegas Concert-goers 45 Minutes Before Massacre That Many Would Soon Die

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http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=85146
Posted 7 hours ago.

[Omni]

Ever since the products of Project mkultra matured & saturated symptoms like schizophrenia diagnoses, demonic possession cases, and mass shootings came along much more frequently. hmm. :idea:

My take on the shootings: Social Engineering.

[Helene West]

our abc agents could have just pulled this guy off an elevator in the hotel and killed him in the fire stairwell. Planted his body at the right place with the right paraphernalia, etc. while the pro's did the killings. he could be nothing more than a patsy body

[Helene West]

It's COINTELPRO ON STEROIDS!!

[Cidersomerset]

our abc agents could have just pulled this guy off an
elevator in the hotel and killed him in the fire stairwell.

That thought did go through my mind as I answered Foxies mind
control question....

Gun control will be brought to the fore in the mainstream press again.


Someone did some extensive planning......There are cameras everywhere
so unless they do a Pentagon there should be footage. But that can be
doctored as with 7/7 bomber.

Las Vegas shooters ammunition was extensive: Fmr. Secret Service agent

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino explains why the
Las Vegas shooting involved a very high-level of planning.

====================================================

This is interesting and Dr.Siegel points out one thing Iraq and Afghanistan has
achieved better trauma injury techniques for gun wounds.....

Dr. Marc Siegel breaks down injuries from Las Vegas attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-wiDzy8Ew

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Fox News medical analyst describes medical response to Stephen Paddock's attack
on the Route 91 Harvest Festival from a room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay
Bay Resort and Casino.

[waves]

HUGE CLUE: The silence of concertgoers on YouTube is deafening.

You can assume 100's were videotaping at the moment and I can only find ONE video posted from any concertgoer of the actual first moments and during/inside!!!??? (it's already posted in this thread)

And how magically coincidental that in the chaos a news crew happened to find and interview 'Briana' who reported overhearing the massacre prediction.

Things are getting stinkier by the second.

I'm sorry, but the Millennium Report goes way too far too quickly coming to conclusions based on taking so many unverifiable 'reports' at face value. We know absolutely nothing verifiable yet about any real shooter or victims.

[pyrangello]

Just an FYI, since it was legal to own a machine gun in the USA I think back in the 1930's, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CRIME COMMITTED WITH A LEGALLY OWNED MACHINE GUN ! The permits and applications our very strict and lengthy. With so little known about this individual , his brother and family having no idea why this happened and having no military background this sure does seem like there are a lot of voids in the motives which can veer off into all kinds of directions as we all know. I guess time will tell. Very sad for all our citizens , condolences to all the families.

[Helene West]

our abc agents could have just pulled this guy off an elevator in the hotel and killed him in the fire stairwell.
That thought did go through my mind as I answered Foxies mind
control question....

Gun control will be brought to the fore in the mainstream press again.

gun control....
Is this the event that precipitates Trump publicly betraying his supporters? If this is what his handlers are preparing him to do I can't see this country ever being the same.

[Cidersomerset]

gun control....
Is this the event that precipitates Trump publicly betraying his supporters? If this is
what his handlers are preparing him to do I can't see this country ever being the same.

That's what they were asking Sarah Huckabee in the White House press conference repeatedly.
Sarah kept deflecting their questions but did confirm at the end Trump was still pro second
amendment. Where the press hype will lead depends if another event knocks it off the front
page. IE 'Rocket Man' or 'Russia Gate' or something else....

10/02/17: White House Press Briefing

Aprox 14 mins in Sarah answers a question saying " The President has been clear
he is a strong supporter of the second amendment and has nothing further to add
at this point"

The press were well behaved today...
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Published on 2 Oct 2017
The White House

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Is Las Vegas Shooter Lone Wolf Or Part Of Larger Plot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TBXa3H1TqQ

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson break down the possible connections between
Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter, and elements within the deep state, ISIS,
or even multiple shooters.

Concertgoers Were Warned They Were, “All Going To Die Tonight”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKMXOxuDtD4
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how 45 minutes before the shooting began in Las Vegas
last night, concertgoers were warned by a strange couple of the extreme violence
and death to come.

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Rep. Al Green: "Impeachment is postponed." (C-SPAN)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqhrgkT0BuM

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Rep. Al Green: "Impeachment is postponed. Let us mourn. Let us heal."

[pyrangello]

And now within 24 hours here comes the brought to you by Hollywood celebrities calling for more gun control, blaming President Trump and Congress. HERE WE GO around the merry go round! Comments brought to you by the privileged few hypocrites who have armed bodyguards , live in gated private communities and make movies with all kinds of weapons. Yep these are the best America has to offer as a spokesperson , true role models . FYI for all those living in the bubble people, if it isn't a gun, it could be a knife, if it isn't a gun it could be a car, if it isn't a gun it could be an axe , if it isn't a gun it could be a semi truck or a propane tank or a fuel tanker. Where there are psychopaths' , there will always be a way they wish to meet their maker while fulfilling their agenda where totally innocent people are caught in the crossfire.

[KingJamesCorona]

Radio Traffic https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv

[Nasu]

Pueblo posted a link to facebook earlier, showing what looked like muzzle flash from the middle of a lower floor / window of the Mandalay Bay casino. Here's the link:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1496703983718626&id=100001371177240

Checking it again and the video has gone, or to be exact, has been replaced by two other videos that do NOT show the same view as the first. You can see a comment of someone who saw the original as I did, they mention the fact that the window does not look like the 32nd floor window we are now being shown, another who saw the original speculates the shooter was on the fourth floor... BIG red flag..

So now we have THREE BIG red flags:

1. A woman says everyone is going to die, forty five minutes before the shooting.
+
2. Video showing what appears to be muzzle flash from a lower floor is now replaced with two other innocuous videos NOT showing anything.
+
3. Brother is dumbfounded and is shocked to find brother had any guns, let alone fully automatic ones, plus no military training..

= something very fishy

I have heard four different times now on the radio today that if he had a silencer it could have been much worse, or rather much harder for the authorities to track him down so fast, probably nothing to do with H.R.367 - Hearing Protection Act of 2017, a bill to change the licensing requirements for moderators / silencers??

Now I hear that they have found ANTIFA promotional material in his room! No doubt he had a quick read up of it's manifesto before going crazy.. It does look like there were victims, rather than the Sandy Hook travesty, but none the less, this does not smell right.... N

[pueblo]

Pueblo
To my layman's untrained eyes, by the way the lights flash at the same time the sounds go off, it appears to be coming from 3 or 4 different guns / people??

Seems like a lot of carnage for a lone shooter, doesn't it?

[KiwiElf]

Infowars - Alex Jones and guest Matt Bracken talk about how a civil war will kick off by gunman shooting into crowds.
Witnesses on scene describe multiple shooters and concertgoers were warned by a strange couple(?) of the extreme violence and death to come.

This massacre coincides with the 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution.

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[pueblo]

our abc agents could have just pulled this guy off an elevator in the hotel and killed him in the fire stairwell.
That thought did go through my mind as I answered Foxies mind
control question....

Gun control will be brought to the fore in the mainstream press again.

gun control....
Is this the event that precipitates Trump publicly betraying his supporters? If this is what his handlers are preparing him to do I can't see this country ever being the same.

I think the agenda here is not to take peoples guns away......not yet anyway.

The purpose of these kinds of attacks is to make people think the government is coming for the guns any day now....when what they actually want (and get) is people buying MORE guns.

This sets the scene for a bloodier showdown when the whole country is seriously armed to the back teeth, then they can get those lovely FEMA camps operational and start properly 're-educating' some citizens :)

[Nasu]

Listening to the police traffic at the 17 min mark it seems like they report shooters on the 29th and 32nd floors! And a police officer / security guard shot on the 32nd floor? I thought he took his own life after they blew the door?? After that they say it's confirmed there are two shooters. At minute mark 44.50 they confirm the two shooting positions of Mandalay bay and Ali Barber, asking if there was a third. Not able to download audio so please listen, guess it won't be up for long... N

https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv

[Harley]

Another mind control victim?

To early to tell but certainly not the full story in yet.......

BREAKING: ANTIFA Literature Found In Shooter's Vegas Hotel Room[...]

Yes, too early to tell. But when all has been said and done I'm quite sure we will be provided with quite the Bull ****e story.

Here's what I'm looking at right now, and from it you can probably see the direction I'm leaning:




Stephen Paddock Had Recent Large Gambling Transactions (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471)

* [Stephen Paddock] made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks.

* On multiple occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases amounts greater than $20,000 and $30,000 — at Las Vegas casinos.

* It was not immediately clear if those transactions were losses or wins.

Q.1: Where did he get all that money to gamble from?
Q.2: Was he borrowing the money from someone?
Q.3: If so, from whom was he borrowing the money?

And the biggest question of all:

Q.4: Was he in debt?

Here is the reason I ask. And to make it very easy to understand I'll simply quote from clearancejobs.com (https://news.clearancejobs.com/2015/02/05/link-credit-debt-security-clearance/)

As part of a background investigation, a credit report is conducted and reviewed to determine an individual’s financial responsibility and whether he or she might be susceptible to pressure or coercion.
Which if true, I then would be forced to ask:

Q.5: Who might the party(s) be that are responsible for his pressure or coercion?

Now here is a little more info. about Stephen Paddock that may be of interest:



* His father, Benjamin Paddock, was on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted list for robbing banks and was described as psychopathic in an arrest warrant.

The suspect's father was arrested in the late 1960s and according to the warrant, he was diagnosed as psychopathic, carried a firearm and was considered "armed and dangerous." It listed his nicknames as "Big Daddy," "Chromedome," and "Old Baldy."

An archived newspaper article from the Arizona Republic described Benjamin Paddock as a three-time bank robber, who was accused of stealing approximately $25,000 from three Phoenix, Arizona, bank branches. He was arrested in Las Vegas, and "indicted on three counts of robbing Phoenix branches of the Valley National Bank.

He was sentenced to prison in Texas for the robberies.

But six months after his sentencing, Benjamin Paddock escaped and robbed a bank in San Francisco before being recaptured in Oregon, according to the Eugene Register-Guard. He lived in Oregon for several years, evading capture by changing his name and appearance until his arrest, according to the report.
Source: nbcnews.com (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471)

So the above info should lead to a multitude of questions regarding potential contacts and connections, not only for his father but for him as well.

[raregem]

[QUOTE]

Published on 2 Oct 2017
On the Friday edition of The Alex Jones Show, Alex predicted that early October the
revolution would start and build up to Nov 4th.




Interesting. Friday, September 29, 2017 is: 09(0+9) / 29(2+9)= 9/ 11 . Okay.

[Cidersomerset]

I thought he took his own life after they blew the door??

Alex Jones has been saying that his inside sources told him the shooter
was shot in a shoot out by federal agents. I have posted this earlier in
the thread, though I have not heard this elsewhere yet.


BREAKING: ANTIFA Literature Found In Shooter's Vegas Hotel Room
Says Hostage Rescue Team

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks the news as he receives it live on air: the
hostage rescue team responsible for ending the shooting
spree found ANTIFA literature in the shooter's Las Vegas hotel room.

[Franny]

I believe mobile phones are now able to be controlled and shut down by police broadcasting a signal. This would be one explanation for the lack of videos and pictures. The laws vary by state as I recall.

BTW, antifa literature just seems too convenient, much like passports surviving the World Trade Center fires and explosions.


HUGE CLUE: The silence of concertgoers on YouTube is deafening.

You can assume 100's were videotaping at the moment and I can only find ONE video posted from any concertgoer of the actual first moments and during/inside!!!??? (it's already posted in this thread)

And how magically coincidental that in the chaos a news crew happened to find and interview 'Briana' who reported overhearing the massacre prediction.

Things are getting stinkier by the second.

I'm sorry, but the Millennium Report goes way too far too quickly coming to conclusions based on taking so many unverifiable 'reports' at face value. We know absolutely nothing verifiable yet about any real shooter or victims.

[KiwiElf]

Antifa literature? How convenient = planted evidence ;)

[Cidersomerset]

Q.1: Where did he get all that money to gamble from?
Q.2: Was he borrowing the money from someone?
Q.3: If so, from whom was he borrowing the money?

And the biggest question of all:

Q.4: Was he in debt?



His father, Benjamin Paddock, was on the FBI's Top Ten Most
Wanted list for robbing banks and was described as psychopathic in an
arrest warrant.

His brother does answer both questions in this surreal interview I posted
earlier. But not conclusively , He said he brother was wealthy but would
you really know if he was in debt ? Its difficult to say as he could of easily
of hid it.

Brother: Las Vegas shooter had no political associations

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Eric Paddock, the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, tells reporters
the family is dumbstruck as to why the brother would carry out a massacre.

===================================================
===================================================

This is in the longer vid I posted earlier but is easily lost in the noise...

It is one of the most telling parts when his brother queries where he got
the weapons and the fact he has no military experience. Again secrets
can be kept from family but it is another odd piece of the puzzle....


Las Vegas shooting: Gunman's brother shocked - BBC News

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
The brother of the gunman who killed dozens in Las Vegas says he's dumbfounded
by what has happened.
Eric Paddock says he is in total shock after police named his brother, Stephen, as
the gunman.

[waves]

Antifa literature? How convenient = planted evidence ;)

I go even further. It's a STORY that 'antifa literature was found'. It probably doesn't even exist.

[pyrangello]

Local news reporting 17 guns in shooters room( there has to be video cameras bringing all this stuff up,thats all vegas has in their hotels is cameras everywhere) and that the shooter may have been playing the poker machines for days before this incident.

[markenty13]

Listening to the police traffic at the 17 min mark it seems like they report shooters on the 29th and 32nd floors! And a police officer / security guard shot on the 32nd floor? I thought he took his own life after they blew the door?? After that they say it's confirmed there are two shooters. At minute mark 44.50 they confirm the two shooting positions of Mandalay bay and Ali Barber, asking if there was a third. Not able to download audio so please listen, guess it won't be up for long... N

https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv

Can download here -

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1VT3hpg2cvI

[Helene West]

Al Green says 'Impeachment is Postponed' I guess he believes he's in charge. lol...

[waves]

HUGE CLUE: The silence of concertgoers on YouTube is deafening.

You can assume 100's were videotaping at the moment and I can only find ONE video posted from any concertgoer of the actual first moments and during/inside!!!??? (it's already posted in this thread)
......


I believe mobile phones are now able to be controlled and shut down by police broadcasting a signal. This would be one explanation for the lack of videos and pictures. The laws vary by state as I recall......


The ability to record video with a cellphone has zero to do with phone or internet signal strength that can be 'shut down' by the police.

And further, that logic is immediately nullified because of the existence of the one video taken during that song that was posted. It's not like hers was working and the other 1000's weren't.

[Cidersomerset]

This recording suggests that the shooter was dead before the police
entered his room , which contradicts Alex Jones intel sources. But
who knows ? this will be the official version.


Las Vegas shooting: Moment police burst into gunman's room - BBC News

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read more

Las Vegas shooting: At least 59 dead at Mandalay Bay Hotel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116

[KiwiElf]

Alex may be angling at the bigger picture.. ie, that there will be more massacres like this one leading up to a November "event" (...I presume that to be an attempt at all out civil war, as threatened by the Cabal/Nazi/psychopath, George Soros - who I suspect is involved with this tragedy) -

(... Jim Stone believes Mossad may be involved, apparently,... News of this appeared in an Israeli newspaper before it happened...) :idea:

http://82.221.129.208/.zy2.html

EXTRACT:

How would Israel know this, when it happened in Vegas at 10:08 vegas time, and they posted this a little after 3AM vegas time (originally) only to have it get repeated by another paper at 4:20 AM vegas time and get deleted in the original paper? How would the police investigators connect the dots in the dead of night before 3 AM (only to have that news make it back to Israel,) go through the publishing delays, and get originally posted at 3 AM?

[Helene West]

Al Green says 'Impeachment is Postponed' I guess he believes he's in charge. lol...

Then again I believe max waters said he'd be impeached by the end of the year. It would be interesting to see if this lovely creature actually gets inside scoops...

[Kbrammcdonald]

took me a little bit to think of this as a false flag op cause i had a friend there and didnt think twice about it. as my day went on though i couldnt help but have this overwhelming feeling/opinion that this was definitely a false flag. knew i could pop onto here and see im not the only one who sees this. thanks for all the updates guys

[KingJamesCorona]

Curious. October 1st

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/3d-print-a-serial-free-handgun-at-home-with-the-latest-ghost-gunner-update/

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This will certainly push for new law, digital or otherwise.

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[Bill Ryan]

I'd strongly recommend listening to Alex Jones today. The show will repeat every 4 hours till tomorrow's broadcast.

He has on-the-spot FBI Hostage Rescue Team sources who say that Paddock was shot when firing on the team who stormed his apartment (he didn't kill himself), that there was Antifa material there, and also video has emerged that appears to show more shots from a different floor, apparently something like the 10th, which is now being published. That's being analyzed and discussed, but may be of reflections or strobe lights.

New information is coming in all the time.

Matt Bracken was interviewed (as well as Kevin Shipp, before him, important CIA whistleblower): Bracken had predicted almost exactly this Las Vegas event. Bracken now predicts a ramp up towards civil war. The broadcast is well worth listening to.

[Helene West]

He has on-the-spot FBI Hostage Rescue Team sources who say that Paddock was shot when firing on the team who stormed his apartment (he didn't kill himself), that there was Antifa material there, and also video has emerged that appears to show more shots from a different floor, apparently something like the 10th, which is now being published. That's being analyzed and discussed, but may be of reflections or strobe lights.

Matt Bracken was interviewed (as well as Kevin Shipp, before him, important CIA whistleblower): Bracken had predicted almost exactly this Las Vegas event. Bracken now predicts a ramp up towards civil war. The broadcast is well worth listening to.

Bill
Thank you. When Bracken mentions civil war does he say about what? What is the nature of this civil war supposed to be about? sometimes i think people are talking about race, sometimes I think they're talking civil war against trump, I don't know who is going to war against who?

[KiwiElf]

To Bill & Helene - the thread is moving so fast you may have missed 3 x videos about this on the previous page, post #54 ;)






From Bill:
the thread is moving so fast you may have missed 3 x videos about this on the previous page You're right! :thumbsup: :bigsmile:

[Cidersomerset]

This will certainly push for new law, digital or otherwise.
thesis, antithesis, synthesis

I had heard of the 3 D gun and this reminded me a bit of the 'wild east'
back street gunshop's of the badland's of Pakistan and Afghanistan.


Pakistani tribal town sells guns cheaper than smartphones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_7jKWPBlZE
Published on 28 Jul 2016
Buy knock-offs of foreign-made guns on the cheap in Dara Adam Khel,
the Wild West of Pakistan


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I Made an Untraceable AR-15 'Ghost Gun' In My Office

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Published on 3 Jun 2015
WIRED senior writer Andy Greenberg puts new homemade gunsmithing tools
to the test as he tries three ways of building an untraceable AR-15
semi-automatic rifle---a so-called "ghost gun"---while skirting all gun control laws.

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Ghost Gunner: Evolution of The Firearm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh4n5puQQlo

Published on 13 Jan 2016
Infowars spoke to Cody Wilson, pioneer of printable gun technology. Cody walked
us through his shop to demonstrate how the Ghost Gunner is fabricated.

[Cidersomerset]

Matt Bracken was interviewed (as well as Kevin Shipp, before him, important
CIA whistleblower): Bracken had predicted almost exactly this Las Vegas event. Bracken
now predicts a ramp up towards civil war. The broadcast is well worth listening to.

CIA Whistleblower: Kevin Ship Deep State Planning To Kill Trump,
May Have Targeted Christians In Vegas
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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Kevin Shipp joins Alex Jones live via Skype to expose how the deep state
is planning to assassinate President Trump and explains how the shooter
in Vegas may have targeted Christian conservatives.

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Matt Bracken : America Is One Step Away From All-Out Race War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7M0LHNXgQ

Matt Bracken : Vegas Attack Could Trigger Second American Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjdLWgKoT8
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Matt Bracken joins Alex Jones live via Skype to dissect how close the
United States of America are from toppling down into an all-out civil
war created by MSM's race based narrative of division.

[waves]

Anyone who is helping trying to spin this into inciting a civil war is someone who is following marching orders they have been given.

And I think the sentence 'More information is coming in all the time' should be corrected. The word information implies something generally accepted as verified and true. More accurate is 'More lies, spins and propaganda are coming in all the time'.

I see this as a desperate grand new attempt by the rabidly still angry leftist Trump hating ptbs trying the next new tactic to get all their controlled players on the same page to force the snowballing of some big agenda into the current administration and America.

They are desperate and losing their minds at the delay of all their plans due to the loss of their crucial big player Hillary.

Thankfully these exact same tactics and lies will fail again for the exact same reasons all the other exact same tactics and lies failed and they're too stupid to stop doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

[Helene West]

When I go about my daily business on the streets, public transportation, stores, etc. you would never know there is some big problem. When I turn on news whether tv or internet, it's the end of civilization. I think people talking about civil war need to get away from a screen, Iphone, tv or whatever. And how do some people see this particular event translate into a race war? There are those making that leap somehow.

In order for civil war things have to be very, very bad. There would have to be quite a number of tragedies including financial to turn people. I mean mind-altering enough to override normalcy bias, inertia, apathy, fatigue and every other care and concern they have. Can't see it happening. A civil war played out exclusively on media maybe, and then they present a 'civil war' to us on the screen.

[Bill Ryan]

He has on-the-spot FBI Hostage Rescue Team sources who say that Paddock was shot when firing on the team who stormed his apartment (he didn't kill himself), that there was Antifa material there, and also video has emerged that appears to show more shots from a different floor, apparently something like the 10th, which is now being published. That's being analyzed and discussed, but may be of reflections or strobe lights.

Matt Bracken was interviewed (as well as Kevin Shipp, before him, important CIA whistleblower): Bracken had predicted almost exactly this Las Vegas event. Bracken now predicts a ramp up towards civil war. The broadcast is well worth listening to.

Bill
Thank you. When Bracken mentions civil war does he say about what? What is the nature of this civil war supposed to be about? sometimes i think people are talking about race, sometimes I think they're talking civil war against trump, I don't know who is going to war against who?

Well, it's kind of off-topic on this thread, but Bracken predicts (or warns) that Trump may well be taken out in some way, physically or otherwise. And that this event might be part of the prequel. (Kevin Shipp entirely agrees, btw.)

To risk my summary of what he suggests, if/when that happens, all h*** would break loose. I'm recording it, but the YouTube of the whole show will be out tomorrow, for sure.

Kevin Shipp's interview has been uploaded already... I believe Matt Bracken's has, as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBjVyGv37Vo

[neutronstar]

When I go about my daily business on the streets, public transportation, stores, etc. you would never know there is some big problem. When I turn on news whether tv or internet, it's the end of civilization. I think people talking about civil war need to get away from a screen, Iphone, tv or whatever. And how do some people see this particular event translate into a race war? There are those making that leap somehow.

In order for civil war things have to be very, very bad. There would have to be quite a number of tragedies including financial to turn people. I mean mind-altering enough to override normalcy bias, inertia, apathy, fatigue and every other care and concern they have. Can't see it happening. A civil war played out exclusively on media maybe, and then they present a 'civil war' to us on the screen.

I agree, I don't see it happening unless there is a financial collapse, and I am not going to hold my breath on that one.

[DNA]

Infowars has been my main source since this has happened.
Alex reported a couple of days ago that someone who had infiltrated ANTIFA reported that they were distributing AK-47's and planning attacks in the USA.
Alex is now reporting that a Las Vegas Police source has stated that ANTIFA literature has been found on the scene of the dead shooter, also he and his girlfriend have been seen in anti-Trump rallies.

[DNA]

Antifa literature? How convenient = planted evidence ;)
Then why don't we see the MSM playing this up?
Instead all we have is Alex Jones relaying this via a local Vegas Policeman.

[Tyy1907]

Jury's still out for me on Alex Jones and his involvement here.

[KingJamesCorona]

Does the brother seem peculiar?

ozxXM86uX64

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http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/apple/video.php?v=wshhq2k34QH3II0293M5

I like his shirt.

[KingJamesCorona]

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Credit - imstillucalien

[Bill Ryan]

Shots coming from below the 10th floor, NOT from the 32nd
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1helSmJPILc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1helSmJPILc)


That was discussed on Infowars yesterday (Monday). Seems to have been reflections or strobe lights of some kind... the key thing was that no windows were broken out from that part of the hotel. The windows there don't actually open, so any shooter has to break the glass to fire.

[Tangri]

XO5EnT60g3E
This man said his friend was shot 3 times in the chest.
I believe him but I must say that I'm surprised that this was so with such a distance from the shooter with no minimal time gap between shots.
I'm no expert but I would have thought the recoil from automatic fire wouldn't allow this to happen.
I hope someone here can explain it.
Was the rifle on a fixed bipod?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/65C2/production/_98105062_mandalay_bay_hotel_shooting_640map_v2-nc.png

"This man said his friend was shot 3 times in the chest.
I believe him but I must say that I'm surprised that this was so with such a distance from the shooter with no minimal time gap between shots."

You are right , 200 meters automatic shots can cause 2-3 meters apart at target. They say shooting distance was 500 meters.

[pueblo]

guess not...

[Star Tsar]

The Richie Allen Show

https://yt3.ggpht.com/-7K79QwKe5yQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/UPW1Jt1FfrU/s200-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg

Who Is The Woman Who Warned Las Vegas Crowd 45 Mins Before Shooting, That They'd Be Killed?

Published 3rd October 2017

I am posting this because Richie says that the "prepatrator" could have been an internal auditor for no other than Lockheed Martin...

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[Tangri]

" Buying AR must be prohibited without background check" is a big lie.

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[sigma6]

Tell it... to the marines... Another False Flag Hoax...

99.9% LAS VEGAS MANDALAY BAY SHOOTING - HOAX EVENT?
SVSn312HMI0

there some evidence they were advertising for crisis actors several weeks beforehand?... this is getting pathetic...

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by DNA (here)

Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Antifa literature? How convenient = planted evidence

Then why don't we see the MSM playing this up? Instead all we have is Alex Jones
relaying this via a local Vegas Policeman.

If i'm starting a civil war, I need both sides to think they are right.

The next phase is motive , this is usually the miraculous passport find or ISIS
connection etc. In this case Alex has been fed the Antifa link and considering the
country music festival audience and elderly white shooter this meme is confusing
and does not fit the overall current mainstream news narrative and could be
covered up ? The two versions of the shooters death Alex's sources says
shoot out. The BBC official clip says he was already dead on entry of the hotel
room. This sort of reminds me of the Jane Stanley BBC building 7 clip on 9/11

Depending on who is controlling the agenda is whether the truth will come out. If it
is a genuine shooter they usually find something even if it is mental illness of some
sort , it has already been released that his father was diagnosed a psychopath and
was on the top 10 FBI's most wanted list. It will be unusual if it is left hanging, so
I'm expecting some motive to be found , we will see.....


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Las Vegas shooting: Police search for gunman's motive

Police are working to establish the motive behind a mass
which left at least 59 dead and another 527 injured


read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41479011


Las Vegas Massacre: What They're NOT Telling You

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Published on 2 Oct 2017...Info Wars
Are all white men to blame?

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I expect Rachel Maddow & MSNBC will be trying to tie it to the Russians or
white supremacists and gun control...

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Las Vegas Massacre: 58 dead, 500+ injured , a good basic summery so far by RT.

52wpo7AGHKU
Published on 2 Oct 2017
At least 58 people were killed and 500+ were injured in a mass shooting during an
open-air music festival in Las Vegas, near the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on
Sunday night. Comments from witness's and Michael Maloof a former Pentagon
official.

===================================================

16 guns in the hotel room and rising ......

Explosive ingredient found in Las Vegas shooter's car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDk1tDkHi3U

Published on 2 Oct 2017
Las Vegas officials say that ammonium nitrate, which can be mixed with fuel oil to
create explosives, was found in the car of alleged concert shooter Stephen Paddock.
CBS News security analyst and former Assistant FBI Director Ron Hosko spoke to
CBSN about the ongoing investigation into Paddock's motives.

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Vegas gunman had 23-weapon arsenal including modified rifles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-O3zxzPrDg
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill offers insight on what was found in the Mandalay Bay hotel room.

====================================================

Vegas shooter’s father had extensive criminal history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRvJuTt6GE
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Benjamin Hoskins Paddock was a bank robber in the 1970s, was on the
FBI's 'Most Wanted' list.

[KiwiElf]

Does the brother seem peculiar?

ozxXM86uX64

78auRvk6J2Y

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/apple/video.php?v=wshhq2k34QH3II0293M5

I like his shirt.

The shirt is cool - his acting is terrible - totally unconvincing ;)

[Cidersomerset]

Much of this has been posted in separate segments , this version is minus
most of the adds.....


Full Show - Must Watch! Democrats Celebrate Attack On Vegas Concert, ISIS Claims Responsibility

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how authoritarian leftists were quick to politicize
the Las Vegas Massacre, and some of them even celebrated the event in
the hopes that Trump supporters were killed. Ex-CIA agent Kevin Shipp
and former Navy SEAL Matt Bracken analyze the shooting. And Gateway
Pundit contributor Lucian Wintrich also examines the mainstream media's
coverage of the tragic event with Jack Posobiec in the fourth hour.

====================================================
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BREAKING TODAY LAS VEGAS 10/2/17 | DEMS AND MEDIA POLITICIZE LAS VEGAS TROUBLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsZAl6t35uA
Published on 2 Oct 2017...Hannity
BREAKING TODAY 10/2/17 | DEMS AND MEDIA POLITICIZE LAS VEGAS TROUBLE

[greybeard]

Regarding motive
Just a thought

There is a mentality that takes everything to the extreme.
For example if I had a really fast car in my teens I would have killed myself pushing the car to the limits.
Guns are meant to be fired.

If I was fed up with life I might want to see how effective my pet collection of guns were.

We are also fed a daily dose of violence from the moment we first watch TV ---films---games--all have violence inherent in them.
It gets to seem normal--yet unreal.
All these actors killed in films to reappear in another movie.

And there you have the President speaking of destroying North Korea ---many thousands of innocent people living in fear of annihilation.

Civilized!! ---Think the human race has a bit to go----"Mans inhumanity to man"

Chris

[Baby Steps]

Authoritarian Governments have never been able to stop atrocities.

Only when we raise our vibration - and exit from the consciousness that would allow such things, will it stop.

[neutronstar]

The shirt is cool - his acting is terrible - totally unconvincing ;)

Actually he looks like a guy totally unprepared to be to be answering questions by a media that just swarmed his house after his bother went on a killing spree. He looks dumbfounded and not sure of what to say to me.

[neutronstar]

Regarding motive
Just a thought

There is a mentality that takes everything to the extreme.
For example if I had a really fast car in my teens I would have killed myself pushing the car to the limits.
Guns are meant to be fired.

If I was fed up with life I might want to see how effective my pet collection of guns were.

We are also fed a daily dose of violence from the moment we first watch TV ---films---games--all have violence inherent in them.
It gets to seem normal--yet unreal.
All these actors killed in films to reappear in another movie.

And there you have the President speaking of destroying North Korea ---many thousands of innocent people living in fear of annihilation.

Civilized!! ---Think the human race has a bit to go----"Mans inhumanity to man"

Chris

I agree with everything you just said, but in this case a I find it strange that a women with her boyfriend told people at the concert you are all going to die tonight. More than one person knew what was going to happen so there is as least a conspiracy at work. Unless she was a very gifted seer.

[uzn]

ANTIFA, give me a brake (Alex Jones our favorite snakeoil salesman).

Here is something totally not related for you. He says they are going to target Rock Concerts soon (at 14.00 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHi-1PJsgbI

[Eric J (Viking)]

The shirt is cool - his acting is terrible - totally unconvincing ;)

Actually he looks like a guy totally unprepared to be to be answering questions by a media that just swarmed his house after his bother went on a killing spree. He looks dumbfounded and not sure of what to say to me.

I think Neutron is right Kiwi...he seems totally dumbstruck and lost for words...

What a mess this whole thing is...orchestrated or not the ptb will play their next card...what next I wonder. 🤔

Viking

[bluestflame]

interesting the reference to like being hit by an asteroid /meteor( i can't remember which)

[Gaia]

I am a little confused about this story. This event is very similar to Orlando, the only difference being that some of the victims were Canadian. In addition, the Canadian media seems to be converging on the sadness of the families of BC and Alberta.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/10/02/bc-man-jordan-mcildoon-killed-in-las-vegas-shooting.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/3-canadians-among-dozens-killed-in-las-vegas-mass-shooting-1.4316485

Here my thoughts this morning :

Human dignity is untouchable. It is the governments highest duty to uphold it.
the people agree that therefore the human dignity is untouchable and shall not be infringed on. On this base the people shall find peace and justice in the world.
(these "fundamental laws" follows the second tier which grants freedom of opinion and expression, as well as freedom of slavery)

My prayers for the victims:heart:

-CfpRp8BL5g

[Bruno]

What I find personally frightening is that nobody around me is even talking about this event. It is on the radio, television and the front page, but at my place of work no body is even mentioning it.

Are we numbed out but the daily barrage of shootings and violence?

Anyone else experiencing this?

I live in southern Ontario just west of Toronto. I work at a high school. Usually people around me are focused on world events.

It's almost creepy this lack of reaction.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Questions that need answers:

How many brass casings were found?
What caliber?
If multiple calibers were used, how many casing of each caliber.
Were all the brass casings found in one room?
How many rounds were fired?
How much time expired, first shot till last?
Did any firearms have clean barrels?
How many firearms were used?
How many firearms were found?
What are the makes and models of the firearms found?
How many magazines were found?

Do the answers support each other?

If 10 rifles (information source?) were used, that would be 70 to 90 pounds plus ammunition. A lot to carry and maybe very conspicuous.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Anon user on 4Chan predicts the Las Vegas attacks Sept. 10th....

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506981091598.png


https://twitter.com/MemeAlertNews/status/914995433541431296

Here's the same thing (I think) on Twitter - advance warning from somebody on the inside - mentions Vegas specifically and the reasons behind it...

Lots of red flags on this incident...

[TargeT]

Are we numbed out but the daily barrage of shootings and violence?


what daily barrage?

I guess if you watch the news you get a daily barrage...


I saw a lot of good surrounding this incident.. like this:
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Questions that need answers:

How many brass casings were found?
What caliber?
If multiple calibers were used, how many casing of each caliber.
Were all the brass casings found in one room?
How many rounds were fired?
How much time expired, first shot till last?
Did any firearms have clean barrels?
How many firearms were used?
How many firearms were found?
What are the makes and models of the firearms found?
How many magazines were found?

Do the answers support each other?

If 10 rifles (information source?) were used, that would be 70 to 90 pounds plus ammunition. A lot to carry and maybe very conspicuous.

info is still spotty so soon, but here's some info...



police recovered 23 weapons, including a handgun and multiple rifles -- some with scopes on them.
Authorities also found several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, in his car.
And at Paddock's home in Mesquite, Nevada, police found at least 19 firearms, explosives, several thousand rounds of ammunition and some electronic devices.


"The firing went on forever," witness Kimberly Chilcote said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html\

Shooting lasted for 72 min apparently...

What's the police response time in vegas? holy ****...

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It has been reported that the windows do not open and there was no broken glass.
Both cannot be true.

[Helene West]

What I find personally frightening is that nobody around me is even talking about this event. It is on the radio, television and the front page, but at my place of work no body is even mentioning it.

Are we numbed out but the daily barrage of shootings and violence?

Anyone else experiencing this?

I live in southern Ontario just west of Toronto. I work at a high school. Usually people around me are focused on world events.

It's almost creepy this lack of reaction.

Bruno
May I ask the demographics of the area?
High school students would normally bring things like this up to teachers so if even the kids are quiet that is interesting.
thx

[TargeT]

It has been reported that the windows do not open and there was no broken glass.
Both cannot be true.



Police said Paddock, who had no criminal record, smashed windows in his hotel room shortly after 10:00 pm on Sunday and trained bursts of automatic weapons fire on thousands of people attending a country music concert down below.]

.......
Lombardo said Paddock had apparently used some kind of hammer to smash the window of his hotel room before opening fire on the crowd of some 22,000 people.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/58-killed-las-vegas-concert-deadliest-us-shooting-205558629.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/10/03/TELEMMGLPICT000142592293_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqtA9hvt4yaDuJhaJG2frTIR7POkEijCwBpXSKVoXZULs.jpeg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/10/03/TELEMMGLPICT000142592087_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqFOgdDOZBSSpUpWf9Rnp5s9f11FLKtqwYaxK652uKeQE.jpeg

Two windows broken out... 72 min of shooting is a long time.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/nintchdbpict000357728070.jpg

[Bruno]

What I find personally frightening is that nobody around me is even talking about this event. It is on the radio, television and the front page, but at my place of work no body is even mentioning it.

Are we numbed out but the daily barrage of shootings and violence?

Anyone else experiencing this?

I live in southern Ontario just west of Toronto. I work at a high school. Usually people around me are focused on world events.

It's almost creepy this lack of reaction.

Bruno
May I ask the demographics of the area?
High school students would normally bring things like this up to teachers so if even the kids are quiet that is interesting.
thx

Hi Helen,

I work in a mainly rural high school, we are predominately white and Christian. Kids range in age from 13 to 18, adults are 24-55 approximately. We have 1200 kids at my school. I only teach one course at the moment as I am also a Guidance Counsellor. Usually the kids are wound up about these events.

There was also a "terror" incident in Edmonton, Alberta on the weekend involving a van where a man ran into people and then got out of the vehicle and began stabbing them. No mention of that event either by my students. (Not sure if people outside Canada heard about that as it pales in comparison to what went down in Las Vegas.)

[Cidersomerset]

This gives a good visual of the overall attack......

The Sphinx & pyramid gives it a odd look , probably just me......
symbols , numbers etc .... ISIS Ancient Egyptian goddess.

Shooter's angle prevented people from escaping

9jZaXjQ060k

Published on 3 Oct 2017
CNN's Tom Foreman looks at why the Las Vegas shooting was so deadly.

====================================================

Terror Attack Carnage In Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpQXnNH-5kw
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Infowars reporter Joe Biggs breaks down the Radical Muslim Agenda and the
newest terror attack that has struck Canada.

[Gaia]

Two windows broken out... 72 min of shooting is a long time.


No no, it took around 72 minutes from the first 911 call to when SWAT breached the room; they were aware of his location much earlier.

This article says "Paddock also had cameras down the hall to watch for anyone approaching." http://www.10news.com/news/police-identify-shooter-in-las-vegas-strip-mass-shooting-as-stephen-paddock-64

This article says: "One official said Paddock had a camera mounted in the room, apparently to record himself." http://abcnews.go.com/US/guns-loaded-high-capacity-magazines-found-vegas-shooters/story?id=50228093


This article says "Police say that the shooting suspect was dead when they entered the room at Mandalay Bay. A source tells Action News that the shooter had 8 guns, 200 magazines, 2 shooting platforms and cameras in the hallway of the Mandalay Bay hotel-casino."

I don't think I've heard it discussed in any recent press briefings. http://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/police-respond-to-reports-of-active-shooter-near-mandalay-bay?page=2

[Tintin]

Ah, Jon Rappaport, you are reading my mind. For those of us who may have drawn similar conclusions, then here's Jon's take on this Psy-Op (era) - yet another to add to an ever growing list. He's pretty much nailed it here:

False flag in Vegas shooting?
by Jon Rappoport

False flags always target the psychological state of mind of the public. Mind control is the goal.

To boil it down, a false flag is an operation staged to blame someone for a crime, someone who didn’t commit the crime.

Why? Because by blaming that person or group, and by convincing many others to blame that person or group, you achieve an important objective.

Simplistic over-exaggerated version: “Last night, a homeless man was found shot dead in an alley. The gun was found next to his body. The Mayor’s fingerprints were on the [planted] gun. The Mayor was arrested at his office. The election nears. The Mayor’s opponent now appears to have a clear path to victory…”

Less simplistic version: “…the worst mass shooting in US history. Stephen Paddock, 64, has been named as the Las Vegas shooter. He is dead. He killed 58 people at a concert and wounded 515 others. In the Congress, calls are rising for new gun control laws…”

But, as it turns out, the evidence suggests there were multiple shooters in the Mandalay Hotel. Paddock may or may not have been one of them. The overall operation was designed to invoke widespread horror and fear, and usher in new restrictions on gun ownership…

The other possible shooters in the hotel would have been professionals, tasked with killing as many people as possible at the country music concert.

Gun control would not be the only agenda in this false flag.

Heavily militarized police all over this country would be another agenda.

Putting a significant dent in the economy would be another---if attendance at public events and in crowded public places diminishes. Such a reduction in attendance could even affect political forums and other gatherings where free speech and the right to assemble are vital. (We’ve already seen significant disruptions of these events.)

Invoking fear and passivity in the population is another basic agenda. This leads to the attitude: “Let the authorities handle everything.”

We could see new, more outrageous violations of Constitutional search and seizure principles, all in the name of “the need for security.”

As in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, there may be new calls for psychiatric screening of the population, including young children, in order to “spot criminals before they commit crimes.” This is sheer madness, because no so-called mental disorder is based on any defining lab test, and many of the prescribed drugs (SSRI antidepressants) push people over the edge into committing violence. ---More violence, more calls for psychiatric screening, more drugs, more violence: an escalating scenario and repeating cycle, leading to tighter Control from above.
When was the last time you saw a major false flag exposed by the mainstream press, and then admitted to by the actual perpetrators, who then explained their true objectives?

Never.

False flags are, over the long term, essential to maintaining and expanding the status quo: power is collected and increased at the top, and then exerted downward.

Note: All prior analyses I’ve made about the duration of the shooting, and numbers of people killed and injured, are subject to change. Why? Because as yet, we have no accurate reports on how many of the 515 people injured were actually shot versus trampled or hurt in some other fashion. Also, police reports that are emerging differ on the duration of the shooting. The NY Times is talking about roughly 7 minutes. Newsweek suggests the duration is longer.

Nevertheless, the background of the purported shooter, Stephen Paddock, gives no indication of any competence with auto weapons, gives no indication he could have dealt with the problems and challenges of using such a weapon---and on top of that, his state of mind at the time, as a non-professional, would have been unstable, to say the least.

Any reasonable law-enforcement group investigating this mass shooting would certainly keep its options open, regarding other perpetrators. But that is not what is happening here. The books are closed on this case. There is no going back.
The desired result has been achieved. One shooter, mass killings. End of story. Objective achieved.

That rush to judgment and “closure” is also a prime feature of the false flag. It has to be.

[Smell the Roses]

I'd strongly recommend listening to Alex Jones today. The show will repeat every 4 hours till tomorrow's broadcast.

He has on-the-spot FBI Hostage Rescue Team sources who say that Paddock was shot when firing on the team who stormed his apartment (he didn't kill himself), that there was Antifa material there, and also video has emerged that appears to show more shots from a different floor, apparently something like the 10th, which is now being published. That's being analyzed and discussed, but may be of reflections or strobe lights.

New information is coming in all the time.

Matt Bracken was interviewed (as well as Kevin Shipp, before him, important CIA whistleblower): Bracken had predicted almost exactly this Las Vegas event. Bracken now predicts a ramp up towards civil war. The broadcast is well worth listening to.

I read Matt Bracken's Enemies Foreign and Domestic trilogy last winter. While somewhat dismal in its outlook, it allowed me to realize the practical reasons for TPTB behind the push for open borders. The trilogy's opening scene is a mass shooting in a stadium, where the patsy was transported there from a mental hospital & drugged with a weapon placed in his hands, and the actual sharpshooter is in a different location. http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com

[Helene West]

When I read about the little details like he knew what angle to take to block escapes et al, I'm just more inclined that this was a poor schnook who thought he was going to vegas for fun and was yanked out of his life, murdered, because the professionals who did the hit needed a body that fit the profile of the group they have been instructed to frame. They frame patsies and they use patsy bodies....

The little details hint familiarity... familiarity with the world of killing people, and even if the guy 'snapped' I would think snapped people who are doing their first killing would still be leaving several sloppy tips and evidence.

[Gaia]

Mandalay Bay Hotel wasn’t the only place that saw some action the other day, Caesar’s Palace was also visited by gunmen.

The Caesars Palace shooting took place approximately an hour after the shooting at Mandalay Bay. The Jason Aldean concert was shot up around 10:30, and an hour after, at 11:30, Caesars Palace was hit.

People claimed they heard what sounded like semi-automatic gunfire, and while playing poker they heard it and began crawling. Oddly enough, people had heard about the Mandalay Bay shooting and gone to Caesars to wait it out. Caesars and Mandalay Bay are on the other side of one another, so how did the shooter get to the other side if he supposedly killed himself?


Meanwhile among Instagramers like me... raw footages most viewed among the community hashtags.


You dont need to have a account to view it!



Caesar’s Palace was also visited by gunmen:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyoN9hBHhe/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Astonishingly, the driver managed to capture video footage of a second shooter which contradicts the current:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyHulHgoy7/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


The Jason Aldean show and the crowd:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxk2Ton0wV/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


The savior man:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxkVANnx09/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Most people have no clue what a gun sounds like.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvOnNJHBYX/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

The real and complete footage without YouTube and MSM:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxlUEhlw_G/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

The floors :https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvni6dnViB/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

Second raw footage of the shooting:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvQwtwHvgV/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

The police radio: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxoXPYBFs4/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Real survivors: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyloNCjfYh/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

Popular message among the millenials today on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyCHn0hx9H/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

[Satori]

We are told the alleged shooter had a "bump-stock" on some of the weapons allegedly found in his room. This is how a "bump stock" works and turns a semi-automatic weapon into an "automatic" weapon. Very poor modification to a weapon if accuracy is important, but will work very well under the circumstances we are told occurred in Vegas.

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/what-is-a-bump-stock-and-how-does-it-work/618810901

[Cidersomerset]

This is turning into an anti gun set up in the mainstream media , 'Terrorists'
or 'shooters' can still murder people using knives, chemicals , explosives , planes
cars ,vans , truck bombs or anything else they can think up. The UK gave up
the few small arms in public ownership and we still have had the odd shooter,
armed violence and terrorist attacks. You cannot compare the US and UK in
arms control for historic reasons and I do not want to own a gun , but if I was
living in the US I probably would......

I just listened to former BBC reporter Tony Gosling and he made some observations
about the shooting and the poor standard of journalists particularly regarding
terrorist attacks and following up. Most terrorists die so there are few court cases
where the truth may come out and more....

Tony Gosling On Las Vegas Shooting, Catalan Referendum Violence, Edward Heath & More.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQGswRheh0

Published on 2 Oct 2017
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Deep State Officials Controlling And Manipulating Las Vegas Narrative

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Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how officials within the deep state are using the
tragedy that unfolded in Las Vegas to push a political policy by manipulating
the data produced by the investigation.

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MSM Says Alex Jones Invented ISIS Claims Of Responsibility For Las Vegas Shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijKGnHRV9ng
Published on 3 Oct 2017
After the mainstream media reported ISIS claims of responsibility for the Las Vegas
shooting, hours later, new organizations began contradicting themselves and
blamed Alex Jones for the reports.

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BREAKING: ANTIFA Receiving Military Training From ISIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IuviStYAI
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how members of Antifa are illegally crossing the Syrian
border to receive military training from Kurdish militias as part of a dark triad
between Antifa, anarcho-communist Kurds and Kurdish members of ISIS.

[Gaia]

Deep State Officials Controlling And Manipulating Las Vegas Narrative

hJitkW2zjAk

Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how officials within the deep state are using the
tragedy that unfolded in Las Vegas to push a political policy by manipulating
the data produced by the investigation.

Stop playing the game of the deep state.

That’s a good place to start because now we know it!!

[TargeT]

We are told the alleged shooter had a "bump-stock" on some of the weapons allegedly found in his room. This is how a "bump stock" works and turns a semi-automatic weapon into an "automatic" weapon. Very poor modification to a weapon if accuracy is important, but will work very well under the circumstances we are told occurred in Vegas.

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/what-is-a-bump-stock-and-how-does-it-work/618810901



shooting a semi automatic rifle can be done in a style called "bump shooting" where you are basically letting the recoil of the gun assist you in pulling the trigger faster, it's super inaccurate and not something you would ever do in long range shooting, even with a crowd as big as there was.

Example:
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"bumb stocks" just assist with this and don't make it any better, and it's not an effective method unless your just trying to waste ammo and heat up your barrel.

sounds like a weird propaganda piece or something...

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[Akasha]

Any Avalonians who work at Dallas hospitals who can verify there were in fact deaths due to gun shot wounds?
Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to setup a crisis actor scenario with blanks being fired by the “shooter”. With such a large crowd, at night, actors could mingle and then when the blank firing started, go into performance mode. The event would appear authentic to the unsuspecting public and they would just be thankful that they escaped unscathed.

Apologies if this line of thinking offends some, but after just finishing watching Ole Dammegard’s recent presentation (shared here (]http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98025-Ole-Dammegard-exposes-international-False-Flag-psyop-corporate-hub-Crisis-solutions.&p=1183347&viewfull=1#post1183347) by uzn), perhaps more skepticism is needed regarding this event. I certainly remain unconvinced as to the validity of it.

[Gaia]

Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to setup a crisis actor scenario with blanks being fired by the “shooter”. With such a large crowd, at night, actors could mingle and then when the blank firing started, go into performance mode. The event would appear authentic to the unsuspecting public and they would just be thankful that they escaped unscathed.


Blanks are made to expand and break apart and stay inside the body and that's what they do without blood. It would have been more effective for the agenda to show gore?

What would be the purpose of faking the deaths Akasha?

[Cidersomerset]

Apologies if this line of thinking offends some, but after just finishing watching Ole Dammegard’s
recent presentation (shared here by uzn), perhaps more skepticism is needed regarding this event.
I certainly remain unconvinced as to the validity of it.

I watched it earlier and its very compelling and I agree with much of it , but
there are real deaths as well like on 9/11 you cannot fake that many and
some of the larger events like sunday are genuine deaths . There's no way
all the emergency services and general public can be complicit in fake events
in different cities this big , drills or not which are used to contain some 'false flags'.
That's not to say it was not setup to happen in some way

If the emergency services are that complicit we are ..............

Ole Dammegård - “Terror” – are you kidding me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHi-1PJsgbI

Published on 22 Sep 2017
At the Open Mind Conference 2016, Ole Dammegard discussed the templates and
methods normally used in false flag operations. This year, he is back again with
another angle on the subject.

[TargeT]

Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to setup a crisis actor scenario with blanks being fired by the “shooter”. With such a large crowd, at night, actors could mingle and then when the blank firing started, go into performance mode. The event would appear authentic to the unsuspecting public and they would just be thankful that they escaped unscathed.


Blanks are made to expand and break apart and stay inside the body and that's what they do with no blood. It would have been more effective for the agenda to show gore?

What would be the purpose of faking the deaths Akasha?

Blanks are just gun powder, no projectile... nothing comes out of the gun but some burnt powder and a lot of noise, they are what is fired when movies are shots.

basically "fake bullets".

[Gaia]

Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to setup a crisis actor scenario with blanks being fired by the “shooter”. With such a large crowd, at night, actors could mingle and then when the blank firing started, go into performance mode. The event would appear authentic to the unsuspecting public and they would just be thankful that they escaped unscathed.


Blanks are made to expand and break apart and stay inside the body and that's what they do with no blood. It would have been more effective for the agenda to show gore?

What would be the purpose of faking the deaths Akasha?

Blanks are just gun powder, no projectile... nothing comes out of the gun but some burnt powder and a lot of noise, they are what is fired when movies are shots.

basically "fake bullets".

I'm not sure how effective the blank would be for that purpose, anyway. I've never been on a firing squad, but I have a feeling I'd know where my round hit. Also think I'd notice if I fired a blank. Seems like the sound/feel would be off slightly....Interesting that the news sites aren't exactly sure about what the fake bullet is made out of. It would make more sense if every rifle except one was loaded with blanks, as one live round is enough to complete the job and because there's no guarantee that a single shooter would fire the perfect shot (they aim for the heart, don't they?), and there are plenty of instances of people surviving a single gunshot wound, even from close distances.

[Cidersomerset]

The press conference does not say much other than to confirm the number of
weapons recovered and they are working on the assumption of just one shooter.
The discussion between the two Infowars reporters Rob Dew and Michael
Zimmerman is worth a listen imo....


Las Vegas Massacre Press Conference: Law Enforcement Believes Only One Shooter

Police have recovered 23 weapons at his hotel room and 19 weapons at his home.....

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Published on 3 Oct 2017....Infowars.....

On Oct 2nd, law enforcement held a press conference to update the
public on their investigation to shooting at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
Infowars reporters Rob Dew and Michael Zimmerman analyze the
information they provided and what they did not provide.

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MSM Shills Launch All Out Attack On 2nd Amendment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OBhWklw6k4

Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down Keith Olbermann's latest video about the Las Vegas
massacre where he calls for all out gun control and confiscation in reaction to
reprehensible application of gun rights.

[pyrangello]

This guy lays it out- Either this guy is the biggest civilizational mole in history, or we're being fed a wall of bull**** big enough to hide an aircraft carrier.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2017/10/who-how-why-and-wtf.html

[Satori]

Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to setup a crisis actor scenario with blanks being fired by the “shooter”. With such a large crowd, at night, actors could mingle and then when the blank firing started, go into performance mode. The event would appear authentic to the unsuspecting public and they would just be thankful that they escaped unscathed.


Blanks are made to expand and break apart and stay inside the body and that's what they do with no blood. It would have been more effective for the agenda to show gore?

What would be the purpose of faking the deaths Akasha?

Blanks are just gun powder, no projectile... nothing comes out of the gun but some burnt powder and a lot of noise, they are what is fired when movies are shots.

basically "fake bullets".

Correct. I think the author of that post was thinking of "dum-dum" or hollow-point rounds.

[Matthew]

...
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...
I like his shirt.
Me too.

4m 6s into this interview the brother asks the journalists to find out where he got the guns from.

video link 4m 6s into the video
https://youtu.be/ozxXM86uX64?t=4m6s

[TargeT]

Any Avalonians who work at Dallas hospitals who can verify there were in fact deaths due to gun shot wounds?

Looks pretty real... I'm sure it is, why cringe at shooting real people if your doing something like this?
https://i.redd.it/03vee8upuipz.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

This guy lays it out- Either this guy is the biggest civilizational mole in
history, or we're being fed a wall of bull**** big enough to hide an aircraft carrier.
http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/...y-and-wtf.html

Most of this has gone through my mind , having a mid life crises is getting more
dangerous , gone are the days of a sports car, Harley or dolly bird . Converting
to Islam and mowing down a crowd of innocent people is now entering the
'terrorism meme' to join suicide bombers , hijackers , Jihadi , ISIS the KKK
or Antifa depending on the audience.

If the shooter had been converted to Islam via his girlfriend or whether other
shooters were with him and he was sacrificed, while others escaped and
left his body to be the patsy ? A lot still does not make sense especially as
he had enough weapons to arm a 'terrorist cell'. It depends what the authorities
will be allowed to say. How many of the weapons were fired ? The CCTV was
it working ? could others in the room avoid it and escape before the police arrived ?
Or was it just the one shooter ? like all these events there will always be doubts....


REPORT: Vegas Shooter's Girlfriend Travelled To Middle East

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9vm0q2txiU
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down how the Las Vegas shooter's girlfriend traveled to the
middle east prior to the attack which ISIS took responsibility for from their middle
eastern stronghold.

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Experts And Inside Sources Believe Las Vegas Shooting Was Leftist, Islamic Terror-Op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpWjIodRorY

Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones lays out developing theories behind the Las Vegas terror attack with new
information about the people involved, the place, and timing of the mass shooting.

[Smell the Roses]

Stop playing the game of the deep state.

That’s a good place to start because now we know it!!
I am done playing. 36234

[Hervé]

A few bits from Jim Stone:
THIS IS WHAT AN AK-47 LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT (http://82.221.129.208/.zy0.html)

This video is also cached on this web site and can be saved with a right click. Muzzle flash video (http://82.221.129.208/akmuzzleflash.mp4)


http://82.221.129.208/akflash.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-0MkZ5GePo)

My comment on this video: This plainly proves no one was shooting from the hotel, it is SO FREAKING BRIGHT no one in a million years could possibly have missed it, no video camera would either, it probably would have put flashes across the entire face of the hotel. This is also far brighter than what the people claiming the shooting happened on lower floors are showing as examples. No missing windows there plus not bright enough equals squad car strobe relections.

This stands as evidence the shooting happened from behind the stage lights, as I said, because only the stage lights could have possibly concealed the flashes. There is all kinds of video of this shooting and no flashes like this to be seen in any of them. The only light source bright enough to hide that much of a flash at night was the stage lights. The stage lights are clearly shown in the video I posted below, And have also also re-linked here. (http://82.221.129.208/beginningofshooting.mp4) This is a crucial video I am serving from this site, because it contains the key info that destroys the official lie. For the accompanying report, scroll down to the headline "Shooter could not have been at Mandalay Bay".

[...]


http://82.221.129.208/tworooms.jpg

TWO SHOOTERS (OR MORE) IN TWO ROOMS. Just like I said, and everyone said last night. All the eyewitnesses are wrong? WHY YES, because the truth does not fit the agenda!

[Akasha]

Any Avalonians who work at Dallas hospitals who can verify there were in fact deaths due to gun shot wounds?


Looks pretty real... I'm sure it is….

Indeed. if it didn’t look real, those responsible for staging such an event wouldn’t being doing their jobs properly.

https://i.redd.it/03vee8upuipz.jpg

That said, the above photo doesn’t show anything other than several people on the floor. We could be being programmed to accept that they are bodies but how can we be sure?
I’m not trying to to be contrary for the sake of it, but rather to question everything, even the seemingly obvious.


….why cringe at shooting real people if your doing something like this?…..

because mass killing is a significant step beyond just traumatizing a crowd, right?

[Tangri]

They can fire from 4th floor without open a window.

There is a Mezzanine Balcony at the Hotel.

[TargeT]

My comment on this video: This plainly proves no one was shooting from the hotel, it is SO FREAKING BRIGHT no one in a million years could possibly have missed it, no video camera would either, it probably would have put flashes across the entire face of the hotel. This is also far brighter than what the people claiming the shooting happened on lower floors are showing as examples. No missing windows there plus not bright enough equals squad car strobe relections.

He was certainly firing from at least 2-5 feet back from the window which would contain a lot of the muzzle flash, it would only act as you are describing above if the rifle was hanging outside the window; which is not how these types of shooting positions are set up, he could have been up to 10 feet back from the window (in the photo's I see a lot of shells are at the base of the bed, indicating a nearby firing position).... plus that's kind of an apples and oranges comparison, the Vegas strip at night is NOT very dark.. it's extremely well lit.




http://82.221.129.208/tworooms.jpg

TWO SHOOTERS (OR MORE) IN TWO ROOMS. Just like I said, and everyone said last night. All the eyewitnesses are wrong? WHY YES, because the truth does not fit the agenda!

[/INDENT]

That's the same "room" (he rented a multi room suite, the guy was a millionaire).



That said, the above photo doesn’t show anything other than several people on the floor.

Guy in the blue shirt has a pretty realistic looking pool of blood below him.. but it could be something else too, photo isn't super clear.

[Noelle]

Mandalay Bay Hotel wasn’t the only place that saw some action the other day, Caesar’s Palace was also visited by gunmen.

The Caesars Palace shooting took place approximately an hour after the shooting at Mandalay Bay. The Jason Aldean concert was shot up around 10:30, and an hour after, at 11:30, Caesars Palace was hit.

People claimed they heard what sounded like semi-automatic gunfire, and while playing poker they heard it and began crawling. Oddly enough, people had heard about the Mandalay Bay shooting and gone to Caesars to wait it out. Caesars and Mandalay Bay are on the other side of one another, so how did the shooter get to the other side if he supposedly killed himself?


Meanwhile among Instagramers like me... raw footages most viewed among the community hashtags.


You dont need to have a account to view it!



Caesar’s Palace was also visited by gunmen:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyoN9hBHhe/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Astonishingly, the driver managed to capture video footage of a second shooter which contradicts the current:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyHulHgoy7/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


The Jason Aldean show and the crowd:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxk2Ton0wV/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


The savior man:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxkVANnx09/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Most people have no clue what a gun sounds like.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvOnNJHBYX/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

The real and complete footage without YouTube and MSM:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxlUEhlw_G/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

The floors :https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvni6dnViB/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

Second raw footage of the shooting:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvQwtwHvgV/?taken-by=las_vegas_shooting

The police radio: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZxoXPYBFs4/?tagged=lasvegasshooting


Real survivors: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyloNCjfYh/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

Popular message among the millenials today on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZyCHn0hx9H/?tagged=lasvegasshooting

Is the Instagram Caesar’s Palace video legit?

[Michelle Marie]

[QUOTE=Akasha;1183435]Any Avalonians who work at Dallas hospitals who can verify there were in fact deaths due to gun shot wounds?

Good idea

[Akasha]

.....Guy in the blue shirt has a pretty realistic looking pool of blood below him.. but it could be something else too, photo isn't super clear.....

Indeed. Playing devil's advocate, he could have had a back pack containing several liters of theatrical blood.

[Hervé]

Well, it seems that the agenda's goal has been achieved: First impact struck!

Any one remem bers last week headlines news?

Then for the other objectives, Jon Rappoport says it better than I could:


False flag in Vegas shooting? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/false-flag-in-vegas-shooting/)

by (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/false-flag-in-vegas-shooting/)Jon Rappoport (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/) Oct 3 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/false-flag-in-vegas-shooting/), 2017

False flags always target the psychological state of mind of the public. Mind control is the goal.

To boil it down, a false flag is an operation staged to blame someone for a crime, someone who didn’t commit the crime.

Why? Because by blaming that person or group, and by convincing many others to blame that person or group, you achieve an important objective.

Simplistic over-exaggerated version: “Last night, a homeless man was found shot dead in an alley. The gun was found next to his body. The Mayor’s fingerprints were on the [planted] gun. The Mayor was arrested at his office. The election nears. The Mayor’s opponent now appears to have a clear path to victory…”

Less simplistic version: “…the worst mass shooting in US history. Stephen Paddock, 64, has been named as the Las Vegas shooter. He is dead. He killed 58 people at a concert and wounded 515 others. In the Congress, calls are rising for new gun control laws…”

But, as it turns out, the evidence suggests there were multiple shooters in the Mandalay Hotel. Paddock may or may not have been one of them. The overall operation was designed to invoke widespread horror and fear, and usher in new restrictions on gun ownership…

The other possible shooters in the hotel would have been professionals, tasked with killing as many people as possible at the country music concert.

Gun control would not be the only agenda in this false flag.

Heavily militarized police all over this country would be another agenda.

Putting a significant dent in the economy would be another—if attendance at public events and in crowded public places diminishes.

Such a reduction in attendance could even affect political forums and other gatherings where free speech and the right to assemble are vital. (We’ve already seen significant disruptions of these events.)

Invoking fear and passivity in the population is another basic agenda. This leads to the attitude: “Let the authorities handle everything.”

We could see new, more outrageous violations of Constitutional search and seizure principles, all in the name of “the need for security.”

As in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, there may be new calls for psychiatric screening of the population, including young children, in order to “spot criminals before they commit crimes.” This is sheer madness, because no so-called mental disorder is based on any defining lab test, and many of the prescribed drugs (SSRI antidepressants) push people over the edge into committing violence. —More violence, more calls for psychiatric screening, more drugs, more violence: an escalating scenario and repeating cycle, leading to tighter Control from above.

When was the last time you saw a major false flag exposed by the mainstream press, and then admitted to by the actual perpetrators, who then explained their true objectives?

Never.

False flags are, over the long term, essential to maintaining and expanding the status quo: power is collected and increased at the top, and then exerted downward.

Note: All prior analyses I’ve made about the duration of the shooting, and numbers of people killed and injured, are subject to change. Why? Because as yet, we have no accurate reports on how many of the 515 people injured were actually shot versus trampled or hurt in some other fashion. Also, police reports that are emerging differ on the duration of the shooting. The NY Times is talking about roughly 7 minutes. Newsweek suggests the duration is longer.

Nevertheless, the background of the purported shooter, Stephen Paddock, gives no indication of any competence with auto weapons, gives no indication he could have dealt with the problems and challenges of using such a weapon—and on top of that, his state of mind at the time, as an non-professional, would have been unstable, to say the least.

Any reasonable law-enforcement group investigating this mass shooting would certainly keep its options open, regarding other perpetrators. But that is not what is happening here.

The books are closed on this case.

There is no going back.

The desired result has been achieved. One shooter, mass killings. End of story. Objective achieved.

That rush to judgment and “closure” is also a prime feature of the false flag. It has to be.

Jon Rappoport

[Cidersomerset]

EDIT Thanks KIWI first vid taken down....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YekjCBcE5Rc

EDIT...
CBS has posted it again though I do not if it has been edited ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZFN6VFFow

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Well I'm not sure if he should be infront of the press in this state....This is
raw and there are insights even if a bit confusing and incoherent at times.

He basically says $'s were plenty full and money talked for his brother and he
easily could have bribed the bell boy to carry bags full of whatever to his room.
He is struggling all the way through to make sense of why the brother he
knew would have done something like this. His brother was a professional gambler.

I think the press should stay away from him now , as he is obviously having
an emotional crises right now....The analysts will have a field day with this.


The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock speaks for a second time

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Published on 3 Oct 2017
Eric Paddock, brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, spoke to reporters in
a rambling, wide-ranging interview outside his home.

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Vegas shooter: What we know about his deadly arsenal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBGm7nNieN8

Published on 3 Oct 2017
How many rounds does an AK-47 hold, and what types of weapons were found in
the hotel room of the Las Vegas shooter? Watch the video for answers.

[waves]

This is a call in to a radio show from a marine former neighbor and friend of accused shooter obviously very knowledgeable about guns and their sounds. The host listens and doesn't interrupt too much with his own agenda but says enough to reveal his anti-2nd amendment stance and that he is a blind moron at heart 'surprised' at hearing the possibility that things are not as the MSM is portraying it all as. Valuable testimony for the record.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imeWqmK6VwQ

[Nasu]

These last two videos are the strongest evidence against the story so far, added to the woman who was warning people forty five minutes before, that they were all going to die...

His own brother says he hopes for some data otherwise to him it "looks like the bug in men in black put on a Steve suit and did this..."

His neighbor, the Marine, thinks that it could be a conspiracy, Steve being the useful dead patsy, "like in the movies" because it goes against the character of this guy so completely...

I agree that there are far too many people involved for it to have just been blanks with actors and squibs and fake blood. Too many police administering emergency triage and first aid. Too many people in the crowd. Too much to fake. All except the gunman that is, the one part of this that does not ad up at all, in my opinion this was a set up... N

[Cidersomerset]

I would like to pay tribute to the emergency services , they all look
genuine to me . I would post pics/vids if I thought they were crisis
actors as I have on other threads , and if any can be found fair enough
but not many have been posted so far and usually they would of been
by now judging by previous incidents......


Nurses Describe the Hospital Chaos After Attack

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Published on 3 Oct 2017
Nurses from the University Medical Center in Las Vegas detailed the "chaos"
inside the trauma unit where over 100 patients were treated following the
mass shooting in Las Vegas. (Oct. 3)

================================================

Las Vegas First Responders' Harrowing Accounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X-xCfumd0g

Published on 3 Oct 2017
First responders in Las Vegas, some attending the outdoor country music concert
in their own time, recall harrowing moments as they tried to offer first aid during
the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. (Oct 3)

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Las Vegas hospitals have never seen anything like this: Dr. Marc Siegel

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Published on 2 Oct 2017
Dr. Marc Siegel, Fox News medical correspondent, on the medical aftermath
of the Las Vegas shooting.

===============================================

How People Are Turning Out to Help Las Vegas Shooting Victims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6XXIRkJJa0
Published on 2 Oct 2017
The blood stained floor of a Las Vegas hospital shows the desperate situation
the city was in after the mass shooting at an outdoor concert. It also shows
the need for blood donations, and thousands have answered the call for help

================================================

Vegas hospitals pushed to limits after mass shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgm6Vy0v_vc
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Medical personnel reported the aftermath of the shooting that killed at least 59
people and injured more than 500 was like nothing they had ever seen before.

[KiwiElf]

The shirt is cool - his acting is terrible - totally unconvincing ;)

Actually he looks like a guy totally unprepared to be to be answering questions by a media that just swarmed his house after his bother went on a killing spree. He looks dumbfounded and not sure of what to say to me.

I think Neutron is right Kiwi...he seems totally dumbstruck and lost for words...

What a mess this whole thing is...orchestrated or not the ptb will play their next card...what next I wonder. 🤔

Viking

I don't doubt he's telling the truth - it's the way he said it (like someone would repeat a comment after a few "takes" - he didn't seem lost for words or unprepared, just a bit "wooden" for a first "press interview" (that was my point, it didn't seem to me to be "emotionally convincing") - I am referring to what was screened here on NZ MSM TV which was a different clip from the two posted videos - what we were shown here - a very short, barely 20-sec clip - seemed "acted"...

[waves]

These last two videos are the strongest evidence against the story so far, added to the woman who was warning people forty five minutes before, that they were all going to die...

His own brother says he hopes for some data otherwise to him it "looks like the bug in men in black put on a Steve suit and did this..."

His neighbor, the Marine, thinks that it could be a conspiracy, Steve being the useful dead patsy, "like in the movies" because it goes against the character of this guy so completely...

I agree that there are far too many people involved for it to have just been blanks with actors and squibs and fake blood. Too many police administering emergency triage and first aid. Too many people in the crowd. Too much to fake. All except the gunman that is, the one part of this that does not ad up at all, in my opinion this was a set up... N

I would agree except for this. Can you find ANY privately posted videos about anything before, during or after from any of the 22,000 people!!!

People post when the smallest thing happens in their lives and there are zero posts except the 1 posted early here of the most traumatic thing so many shared with so many others. Many had to be filming at the moment it began and for some time until they bolted. Many would have wanted to film the scene in the streets of people escaping. Many would have wanted to film the scenes in hospital emergency rooms. Many would have made selfie testimonies of their experience. Where is any of this??

Especially also curiously lacking are angry and indignant videos from people who were there for whom this event would fuel their gun control or anti Trump agenda in some way.... which leftist google would likely love to leave alone.

Is it possible that all private videos by concertgoers are being dumped by google? I have to say that any search I make on the subject brings up ONLY the disgusting propaganda msm sources that have never before appeared in my search list, but it's also hard to believe they're all being dumped from everywhere.

Don't know what to make of this factor.

[Bill Ryan]

The analysts will have a field day with this.

No kidding, wow.


The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock speaks for a second time

YekjCBcE5Rc

Totally compelling. I was completely glued to this poor man processing his shock, grief, confusion, and utter bewilderment.

I have to say, this is the most extraordinary, riveting piece of dramatic face-on-a screen video I've seen for as long as I can remember. Passionate, raw, honest, articulate, more real than real. And for some brief moments, almost Skakespearean.

And a myriad of small human-story clues, but no answers at all.

[skogvokter]

I would agree except for this. Can you find ANY privately posted videos about anything before, during or after from any of the 22,000 people!!!
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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1507066205
WARNING. Very graphic video.
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[Wind]

I see no reason why would they fake the victims, obviously people got hurt and obviously many got killed. The first question that always comes to my mind is that what caused the shooter to behave in that way and he must have had nerves of steel to shoot that accurately without caring about the people, or just seeing them as targets and not as humans. Do these people just "snap" and are they just lone nutters, or are they somehow hired or mind controlled to do the dirty work?

Or... are they indeed being used as patsies and some black ops guys actually commit these awful mass shootings and bombings? I'm not sure if we'll ever get proper answers to those questions, only thing we can do is to question things and have different kind of theories.

[ditting]

Some more questions to add:

"Did he commit suicide or was he shot by police?"
If he committed suicide, "When? Was it before they breached the door? How soon before? What was his time of death?"
"Were there any witnesses to him shooting himself? What weapon of choice did he use? Ballistically, how did he hold the gun?"
"Did he use silencers or muzzle flash suppressors? Were there any witnesses within the hotel to Steve? ...to the shots fired?"
"How about outside the hotel? There must have been someone on the street who saw or heard glass breaking and shots being fired."
"Why would a lone shooter want two shooting points in this scenario?"
"In addition to guns, what is the comprehensive list of personal items Steve had in that suite?"
"What was the 'Antifa Literature'?"
"What was the presumed motive?"

The trauma most definitely seems real. I am not convinced it is with some of the other "mass shootings" which have occurred. (Sandy Hook, Orlando, etc)

The Brother seems surprisingly open and forthcoming with the press while publicly in shock, grieving, and beginning to process this all.

I do feel manipulated. I smell the Hegelian Dialectic at use again. I feel provoked to arrive at a conclusion already. I see much of the media/social media behaving extremely reactionary. I am more thirsty for facts before I feel comfortable deciding how exactly to prevent more carnage.

[turiya]

Daboo7: Active Shooter
Training Drill Happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kABEsiUIGc

Twitter Link (https://twitter.com/iPressPROJECT/status/915012530564587520)

[bluestflame]

lockheed martain connection ?

[Franny]

Could someone that is military or familiar with guns please listen from about 9:07 through to at least 10:38. The dots don't connect to me but I'm not familiar with guns.

The short version:

-He's at a nearby hotel on the roof and can see people falling to the ground
-Can't see the Mandalay Bay, it's behind his hotel
-Says the shooting is from the 32nd floor
-Gets in the elevator and goes to the lobby
-As the doors open the lobby reeks of gun powder

My question is: how can this hotel that does not seem close enough reek of gun powder on the ground floor near the elevator, not even the front door? Is he making it up for a few moments of fame or is there another story here?

Suspicious minds, right?



Infowars - Alex Jones and guest Matt Bracken talk about how a civil war will kick off by gunman shooting into crowds.
Witnesses on scene describe multiple shooters and concertgoers were warned by a strange couple(?) of the extreme violence and death to come.

This massacre coincides with the 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution.

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[TinFoilSuit]

I would agree except for this. Can you find ANY privately posted videos about anything before, during or after from any of the 22,000 people!!!
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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1507066205
WARNING. Very graphic video.
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Although I remain convinced that most, if not all, of the previous mass terror incidents were clearly and demonstrably faked (Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, Roanoke, etc), this incident appears very real to me. The Liveleak video is convincing to say the least. The open eyes of several deceased victims, along with a slight trickle of blood that streams out of one victim's mouth as this helper is trying to take her pulse - wow, it made me sick. I truly hope I am wrong, and they have just gotten better at their fakery. But for the moment, it sure does appear that these monsters have upped the ante - perhaps after realizing that all their previous attempts were getting sniffed out too easily. And no, I don't believe for a second that this was carried out by a retired millionaire accountant with no military background, and no previous interest in guns. May God have mercy on their souls.

TFS

[Nasu]

We are all used to finding old posts with videos that have been taken down or removed by owner. But to come back and see that those two vids at the top of this page have been deleted within a day... Wow.. Clearly they did not fit the narrative... More confirmation that this is a set up for some reason or to distract from something, either way, a sick and twisted event... N

[KiwiElf]

Just noticed the missing (and most damning videos) too, Nasu. From a NZ "News" point of view, all 3 x TV MSM stations here are spinning exactly that "official narrative" with very cherry-picked info (ie, screwing it around to blame Trump & US Gun Laws,... oh uhh ... in the same breath that Peurto Rico is his fault, too! :rolleyes:):focus:

[annunaki1]

http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-staff-gunmen/

http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooting-witnesses-report-multiple-gunmen-dressed-as-security-guards.html?m=1

https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/45289-project-high-incident-las-vegas/

Sadly This as with so many other of these tragedies is a False flag event,and the man they have pinned this on is a Patsy.there is so much evidence surfacing as the hours go by that it seems hard to believe that these facts havent gone mainstream already,but the culprits furthering their hidden agendas are not going to let that happen.it appears that here were multiple shooters firing from multiple floors and even from multiple hotels,some dressed as security guards,the police chased one of these shooters through another hotel and this was witnessed by a lot of people,the police also shot and killed another of these security guards but all witness reports,early police reports have been censored and effectively swept under the carpet while the news channels show crisis actor witness interviews to push this story of a Lone Gunman.
The seen of the shooting was infront of a pyramid, the luxor hotel,on a sacrificial date called asasins day.
This is happening too often & too many innocent people are dying,i dont know how we are going to stop it but something needs to be done,enough is enough!!!!

My thoughts go out to the families of the innocent victims

[Harley]

Dammit! I Missed 'em!

Did anyone happen to download these vids?

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The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock speaks for a second time

YekjCBcE5Rc

Published on 3 Oct 2017
Eric Paddock, brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, spoke to reporters in
a rambling, wide-ranging interview outside his home.




This is a call in to a radio show from a marine former neighbor and friend of accused shooter obviously very knowledgeable about guns and their sounds. The host listens and doesn't interrupt too much with his own agenda but says enough to reveal his anti-2nd amendment stance and that he is a blind moron at heart 'surprised' at hearing the possibility that things are not as the MSM is portraying it all as. Valuable testimony for the record.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imeWqmK6VwQ







The analysts will have a field day with this.

No kidding, wow.


The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock speaks for a second time

YekjCBcE5Rc

Totally compelling. I was completely glued to this poor man processing his shock, grief, confusion, and utter bewilderment.

I have to say, this is the most extraordinary, riveting piece of dramatic face-on-a screen video I've seen for as long as I can remember. Passionate, raw, honest, articulate, more real than real. And for some brief moments, almost Skakespearean.

And a myriad of small human-story clues, but no answers at all.

[KiwiElf]

According to a Japanese News website, The Filipino girlfriend has now arrived in the US (pointless posting it as it's in Japanese) - this is via my Japanese flattie who's monitoring the Japanese Newsfeed. Let's see what happens?

[KiwiElf]

I've got the first missing video & I'm downloading it now with IDLM (only ONE source!) Grab it NOW!

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EDIT:

Is this the second one? Have downloaded that too (one source!)

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[Cidersomerset]

Well done Kiwi for being on the ball......

http://img32.laughinggif.com/pic/HTTP3JzMzMucGJzcmMuY29tL2FsYnVtcy9kNTcvY2Fwb3JhbF9taW52aWxsZS9yZWFjdGlvbiUyMGZhY2UvdHVtYmxyX20wcDVqe TdMaGgxcXpmZHNqbzJfMjUwLmdpZiU3RWMyMDAlog.gif

I know you will appreciate capt Jean Luc .....

[KiwiElf]

Hi Cider - no worries ;) - have refreshed it... can anyone please confirm if the second video is also the correct one?

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Cider - no worries - have refreshed it... can anyone please
confirm if the second video is also the correct one?

Its not the same one, the original was the caller speaking live to the host.
aprox 7mins long . But it is a accurate summery by the sound of it.....



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This is the full version of yesterdays show with most of the adds edited out.
I have posted some of this in separate segments....



Full Show - What Was The Motive Of The Las Vegas Shooter? - 10/03/2017

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Published on 3 Oct 2017
Alex Jones asks the obvious questions swirling around the Las Vegas Shooter while
leftists' call for gun control surges. Robert Forago of TheTruthAboutGuns.com joins
live in studio to defend our right to bear arms in the face of a tyrannical
government. Idaho congressional candidate Michael Snyder and investigative
journalist Laura Loomer join Alex in the third hour to speculate on the Las Vegas
shooting. Paul Joseph Watson brings it all home.

[KiwiElf]

Ahhhhh this may be it..... Michael Savage Interview...

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[Omi]

And no, I don't believe for a second that this was carried out by a retired millionaire accountant with no military background, and no previous interest in guns.

Yesterday I got an unexpected and surprising phone call from an old classmate who'd served in the US military for 4 years, apparently quite knowledgeable and experienced in using weapons in war zones. He seemed very troubled, spoke very fast and seemingly endlessly about how the shooting in Vegas was done in such an extreme way that it exceeded far beyond the limits of what a military soldier is allowed to do. I didn't know why he'd called me, it was so out-of-the-blue, but anyway told him to keep updating information and talk with more people about this if he's so concerned. He did seem a bit intoxicated with alcohol, as he'd repeated things many times over, and it was probably in the wee hours where he was calling from. I'm a bit worried about the psychological well-being of the people in the US.
Blessings to all

[Cidersomerset]

Ahhhhh this may be it..... Michael Savage Interview...


That's it....:sherlock:.....:thumbsup:

One interesting thing is he said Paddock was a Trump supporter , so attacking
this audience does not make sense. Unless its BS or he changed his support
for some reason ? or he was a patsy ? like many of these attacks it does not
feel right ..........Alex Jones is being fed info that the room was full of Antifa
literature the classic way they usually leave their calling card as with passports
and vids at other events. Could Alex be being set up ? of course , this is
turning into a massive anti gun debate , which would suit TPTB and they know
Infowars is pro 2nd amendment and Alex is particularly vocal as a supporter
gun owner.

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How to transform the gun debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia8AKMyEkmI
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Maria-Teresa Liebermann, deputy director of Battle Born Progress, and Kris Brown,
of the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence, join “News with Ed” to discuss the Las
Vegas massacre and what the government can do to fix America's gun violence problem.

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Gun shop owner remembers selling shotgun to Vegas suspect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUdjgapFH8Q
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Police find weapons arsenals inside gunman's hotel room and homes; Chris Michel
speaks out on 'The Story.

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Gun-Owning Las Vegas Real Estate Mogul To Donald Trump: 'Enough Is Enough' |
The Last Word | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgYAzFEVYW8
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Las Vegas businessman Stephen Cloobeck donated $400,000 to victims of the Las
Vegas shooting and is calling for President Trump to take action on gun control.
MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle shares her interview with Cloobeck and discusses with
Lawrence O'Donnell.


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I don't know the authenticity of the pics on this vid....

PICTURES! Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen Paddock Hotel Room Mandalay Bay Casino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlPIk4vby5Y
Published on 3 Oct 2017
PICTURES! Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen Paddock Hotel Room
Mandalay Bay Casino.Guns Note Body Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen
Paddock Hotel Room Mandalay Bay Casino


Note if authentic the body is wearing a glove that could mean others wore them
as well to avoid finger prints on weapons if they fled in a hurry ( speculation)

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/hotel2-lv-abc-171003_4x3_992.jpg


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Lionel...Trial Lawyer, Media analyst & regular on RT America gives his observations so far..


#LasVegasShooting: Citizen and Civilian Journalists Raise More Questions #MSM
Refuse to Even Address

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Published on 4 Oct 2017


It's looking a lot like false flag, Sparky. The public is not being told the truth about
what really went down in Las Vegas. As you will see below, the evidence is
mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was
planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old
retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever
and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all
by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any
ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to
interrogate him. But the American people definitely deserve some answers about
what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

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#LasVegasShooting: The Goal of the Deep State is to Repeal, Disarm and
Confiscate Protected Firearms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwnIfew4x6A

Published on 4 Oct 2017

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to
tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend
our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the
people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private
arms." (Tench Coxe in ‘Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal
Constitution' under the Pseudonym ‘A Pennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal
Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)

Never forget the basis of the II Amendment.

See?
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Hillar...

Lionel Nation

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Girlfriend Of Vegas Shooter Arrives At LAX From Philippines For Questioning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IP8jQNXDOo

Published on 3 Oct 2017
The Las Vegas gunmen's girlfriend arrived at Los Angeles International Airport
Tuesday night and will be taken by authorities for what is expected to be intense
questioning.

[Tintin]

Radio Traffic https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv

So, confirmation of two shooters then. This is probably one of the most important information sources here: thanks for sharing.

[Tintin]

Listening to the police traffic at the 17 min mark it seems like they report shooters on the 29th and 32nd floors! And a police officer / security guard shot on the 32nd floor? I thought he took his own life after they blew the door?? After that they say it's confirmed there are two shooters. At minute mark 44.50 they confirm the two shooting positions of Mandalay bay and Ali Barber, asking if there was a third. Not able to download audio so please listen, guess it won't be up for long... N

https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/initial-radio-traffic-las-vegasnv

Can download here -

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1VT3hpg2cvI

Fabulous, and thank you for providing this for us all, this way.

[lloyds]

pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

[pyrangello]

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/hotel-guest-next-door-las-vegas-shooter-saw-multiple-gunmen/209094 So here's another site that gives another take on what happened, I was speaking to a friend of mine before this incident, we were talking about the media and if the NFL took a different stance and instead of shoving their agenda down the throat of everyone who wants to watch football , why not do a stance before or after the game in their civilian clothes on their own time arm and arm or taking a knee and give constructive interviews to bring attention to their unity about racial problems in the US and gain much respect by doing so. BUt then I added "THE NEWS MEDIA WOULD NEVER COVER IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT THEIR AGENDA" which directly has a same tone to this article which does sounds plausible . You be the judge!

[ditting]

pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

The photo I saw looks real. He is definitely shot dead. I'm interested to find out what convinces you he took his own life?

Can you provide a link so I can be sure we are looking at the same image?

[KiwiElf]

pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/10/photo-of-a-dead-stephen-paddock-3559159.html


LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA
Tuesday, October 3, 2017 20:37

The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.

Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because
1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and
2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don’t want their scheme to become public knowledge.

https://twitter.com/SamHydenstein/status/915243399518867461

We’re preparing now, next 20 to35 minutes

It wasn’t his wife, it was an Arabic woman. We released her to the FBI, she is presumably still in FBI custody.

He did have cameras set up, the cameras and video are being examined by the FBI.

Even if they destroy that evidence we have evidence of multiple arms deals dating back to April of 2015 along with casino video of past interactions between Paddock and buyers.


PADDOCK’S GIRLFRIEND USED TWO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND WAS MARRIED TO TWO MEN AT THE SAME TIME

Marilou Danley, the live-in girlfriend of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, and now a “person of interest” in the shooting investigation, is a Philippines native who has used two Social Security numbers during her two-plus decades in the United States, and was married to two men at the same time, public records show.

The person who may hold the key to solving the mystery of why the Vegas gunman killed 59 and wounded nearly 600 people led a convoluted life of her own, with two simultaneous husbands, a bankruptcy, two Social Security numbers, multiple addresses in several states and even different ages depending on which state records you review.

[link to www.newsweek.com]

[Helene West]

has anyone seen this on Zerohedge? now supposedly emerging is suicide note and a tape he made of himself during the killing?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/vegas-shooter-filmed-himself-during-slaughter-suicide-photo-emerges

[pyrangello]

http://nomorefakenews.com/ jon rappoport has 4 stories back to back on the shooting, also listening to caravantomidnight.com now from the 3 oct 17 show. John B Wells is giving links to 2 or 3 people from different sites who warned of something happening in vegas very soon, these warnings were given last month, as the plot thicknens.

[Cognitive Dissident]

There are so many things about the official story that don't make sense. 64 year old guy firing automatic weapons for 10 minutes, how is that even possible? Natural News gives a great analysis of this: https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

And another 5 things that don't make any sense: https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-03-five-more-things-dont-add-up-las-vegas-massacre-expended-brass.html

Other red flags - all those reports/videos of a second shooter.

And the foreknowledge - the woman saying that they were all going to die, 45 minutes ahead of time, and the anonymous warnings online:

https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@budz82/las-vegas-shooting-aka-the-high-incident-project-false-flag-warning-dated-sept-11-2017-states-if-their-plan-is-successful-the

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23highincidentproject&src=tyah has the hashtag

At this point, it's hard to see how anyone can think it's anything other than a false flag... what am I missing here, apart from the MSM propaganda/brainwashing?

[TargeT]

pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)

the gun was in his mouth when the weapon was discharged, this is the most efficient way to suicide (or kill someone and make it look like suicide?) with a fire arm as you shoot out the base of your brain leading to rapid (not instant) death.

The rounds hit the floor first and his blood flowed under them, there should be a very large mess on the ceiling or wall behind him as well.

[KiwiElf]

16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want To Talk About
Tuesday, October 3, 2017 17:28

Michael Snyder is the publisher of , The American Dream Blog and The Truth

The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas. As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him. But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…


#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

#2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver clearly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window. A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

#6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News made this point…

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?

#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

#12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

#14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…

In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”

#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.

Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost…

A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.

Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.

Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.

Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.

Michael Snyder is a Republican candidate for Congress in Idaho’s First Congressional District, and you can learn how you can get involved in the campaign on his official website. His new book entitled “Living A Life That Really Matters” is available in paperback and for the Kindle on Amazon.com.

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[KiwiElf]

@ TargeT

Thanks for that... would there be urrr "debris" from the wound behind him - like a trail - and on top of some of those shells/carpet, or would it all just fly further back into the wall/ceiling? Sorry to be gross!

[Cidersomerset]

This is a update compilation of some of the reports above and more....

Does this Video Show Second Shooter During Vegas Massacre

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Published on 4 Oct 2017...Infowars

Could Stephen Paddock, the lone Vegas shooter, have been a patsy to kick
off the left’s war with the right in the streets of America and to simultaneously
roll in the Rapiscan naked body scanners that profit former DHS Secretary
Michael Chertoff, George Soros and a handful of lobbyists connected to the
management of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino?

[Hervé]

Yep...

... Luxor... Pyramid... Sphinx... Obelisk... Sacrificial ground...



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJdFknXcAMCivK.jpg


http://image.advance.net/home/advance-media/width600/img/breaking_news_national_desk/photo/las-vegas-shooting-7c969e08b34557db.jpg



https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/vegas-shooting.jpg?w=700&h=393&crop=1



That's as good as a handwritten signature...

[GaelVictor]

Good analysis / research reporting in this new video;

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Cui bono; for whose benefit..

[Tintin]

Apologies if this may already be here - it's a very active thread and there is a lot to take in.

More footage from the event and this time clear audio that would suggest, quite incontrovertibly, that more than one individual was involved here. Listen carefully:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA&has_verified=1

[KiwiElf]

Why Patsy Stephen Paddock Was Set Up To Be A Mass Murderer

Posted on October 3, 2017 by State of the Nation - images & additional info at link (don't know what to make of this one, either, but the general crux of the story appears to be gathering some ground... I'd recommend reading the original at the link below ... KE)

Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=85342

The capstone and Illuminati all-seeing eye lit up atop the Luxor Resort pyramid (located right next to the Mandalay Bay) during the Harvest concert mass shooting (image)
Mandalay Bay Resort Was The Setting For Another ‘Fast & Furious’ Type Operation Gone Bad
But that’s not the worst of it!

State of the Nation
“Only now does the official narrative make sense.
The FEDs had no choice, as they saw it. Either
Stephen Paddock was a card-carrying FBI agent
or he was a government contractor who had to be
sacrificed… along with a lot of innocent concert-
goers. “
— Veteran Intelligence Analyst

There’s a very good reason why the Stephen Paddock story makes no sense whatsoever. That’s because it makes no sense whatsoever … to anyone, anywhere.

Truly, the official story of what happened in Las Vegas is unraveling quicker than a cat playing with 3 balls of yarn*.

Stephen Paddock the government agent

First understand that patsy Stephen Paddock has been employed as a IRS agent, a defense auditor and a U.S. Postal mail carrier. Obviously he was drawn to government service.

Stephen Paddock had been an IRS agent and defense auditor

The mainstream media explanation for exactly how Paddock has preoccupied himself over the past many years as a gambler who traveled the high seas is a perfect alibi for what he really was—a serious agent of Deep State. We already know that Deep State will eliminate its various agents or take them out of commission by giving them new identities whenever necessary.

The key point here is that Paddock was chosen to be the patsy for very good reason which will eventually reveal itself.

Special Note:
The primary signature of a false flag operation, whether the staged attack is a transparent hoax or not, is the immediate identification of a patsy also known as a lone gunman (or lone wolf). Even a 7-year-old knows that it’s impossible for law enforcement to make such a quick determination as to who the actual perpetrator is. To then declare that an individual acted completely alone when the crime scene hasn’t even been fully investigated is, at once, totally ridiculous, implausible and disingenuous. Yes, they really do think we are that stupid. But there’s also a crucial necessity for this “lone gunman” MO. Fixing the blame squarely on only one culprit closes off the possibility that there was a greater conspiracy at work. Because the true perps will do whatever is necessary not to be found out, they ALWAYS pick a patsy and run with him or her no matter how farfetched and flimsy the official narrative. In this fashion they are self-empowered to mock and marginalize all the conspiracy theorists. These conspiracy realists intuitively know that only a very deep and wide criminal conspiracy could have executed such a complex operation as Las Vegas. More importantly, these truth seekers understand that the coverup conspiracy of silence ends up being bigger than the crime itself. All of Deep State gets behind the government’s story, and God help the one who leaves the reservation of political correctness.

Official narrative full of holes (Btw, where are all the bullet holes?)

The narrative that was created to set Paddock up as the worst mass murderer in U.S. history is so full of holes that there must be a very good explanation. And so there is.

The FBI apparently had another Fast & Furious fiasco to deal with and they needed to put it to bed quickly. What the exact details of that scheme were will likely never be known. However, the following explanation probably comes very close to what may have happened to Paddock as far as the FBI was aware of.

Stephen Paddock outed as an undercover arms dealer involved in ‘gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious‘

Everything about this case has screamed of Paddock’s innocence. There’s not a single shred of evidence that he would ever commit such a heinous crime. His brother’s incredulity and robust defense of him was particularly compelling.

“Horrified” brother of Las Vegas suspect says he’s “dumbfounded”

What Paddock did have were LOTs of guns in his hotel room at the Mandalay Resort. How did he relocate such an arsenal into his hotel room? Clearly, such a purposeful ‘gun-running operation’ could only be conducted with the foreknowledge of both the hotel management and the FBI. Insiders know that gambling casinos are often used in this manner.

Multiple players and co-conspirators

Applying some common sense and a little intuition while analyzing this crazy saga shows that this is simply a bad deal gone awry. . And that Stephen Paddock found himself right in the middle of it just as Lee Harvey Oswald did in Dallas in November of 1963.

Paddock’s brother expresses what many people now know: that Stephen Paddock had absolutely nothing to do with this terrorist event. As for who was really responsible, it appears that this was another one of those false flags within a false flag. As most people know by now, the Central Intelligence Agency implements black operations on a strictly need-to-know basis and in a highly compartmentalized fashion. This structure enables then to run simultaneously various false flags which appear to operate at cross purposes. In this way the decision-makers at the very top are completely buffered by the multiple levels of intrigue, as well as the layers of machinations within them. By purposeful design, running a false flag within a false flag, together with a hoax, becomes nearly impossible to make sense of. At the end of the day, however, TPTB do want everyone to know that the official narrative is so incredible that it could not have happened. But why would they do that? (See the upcoming Part II of this series)

KEY POINT: Whenever the power elite is really desperate, they simply ring up The Company at Langley (aka C.I.A. headquarters). The spooks can pull off the shelf — pre-manufactured — a false flag operation that is literally ready to execute. This particular on-demand type of product/service is often not perfectly engineered for the intended context; hence, it has a lot of kinks and imperfections. Remember the senseless and inscrutable San Bernardino killings that occurred right in the midst of Putin’s Russia exposing the Obama Administration for creating, funding and arming ISIS. That black op was also pulled off the shelf in a moment of great need for the NWO cabal to change the global conversation. San Bernardino Solved: A False Flag Within a False Flag — Patriots Versus Globalists

Even Israel has signaled that they had a hand in this psyop. Of course, the psyop aspect is so prominent that the U.S. Intelligence Community is also deeply involved. Not only were the FBI, CIA gun-runners and ISIS arms traffickers involved in this crazy affair, so too was the Las Vegas MPD and Clark County Sheriff’s Department.

Israel National News & Reshet Bet Radio Both Report American Muslim Samir al-Hajib As Las Vegas Shooter

Deep State has a lot of problems right now and distracting the American people was of paramount importance. Staging a shocking and horrific massacre in the gambling capital of the world — neon-lit LAS VEGAS — certainly diverted everyone’s attention from several ongoing debacles. Las Vegas Mass Shooting: False Flag, PsyOp & Black Op to Distract

Then there are those agents of Deep State whose job it is to make sure that the selected social media are utilized to pass the word — LAS VEGAS — around to those who need to know well in advance. Surreptitiously using the social networks to efficiently disseminate secret messages has been standard operating procedure for many years. YouTuber Perfectly PREDICTS Las Vegas 2 Weeks BEFORE the Incident!

What’s the back story?

The critical point here is that Paddock had no idea that he was being used as the main character in the largest mass casualty event in American history after the terror attacks of 9/11.

Now just why did TPTB really stage this mass shooting? Las Vegas Massacre: Here’s Who and Why They Did It

But why, pray tell, did they do it in Las Vegas right in front of the Luxor Resort pyramid and its all-seeing eye? Illuminati Esoterica Associated With The Las Vegas Mass Shooting

Let’s not forget that this “human sacrifice” took place at the Harvest Country Music Festival during the Hebrew Fall Feasts, and on the day after Yom Kippur. “Also known as Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur is the holiest day of the year for the Jews.”[1]

Unlike the other days of the year, the High Priest alone had to perform the daily offerings and sacrifices, in addition to the special sacrifices for the Day of Atonement.

As for the criminal masterminds who were behind this obvious false flag terror operation, they are the same cabal who did 9/11.

LAS VEGAS BLACK OP PERPETRATED BY ALL THE USUAL SUSPECTS
The Deeply Hidden Plot

The Las Vegas slaughter was staged-managed for very specific reasons relating to the preceding link. Whenever the headlines read as follows there are always precise aims behind them: “Deadliest Mass Shooting In US History”: At Least 59 Killed, 530 Injured After Shooter Opens Fire At Las Vegas Concert

What might those hidden purposes be?

First, that 59 people died … and that 530 plus were injured, some gravely wounded.

What this allows for is that many ‘victims’, even though they didn’t die, could then be transported to a fastidiously controlled location such as a pre-selected hospital and killed, or sacrificed. This happened during the shocking Paris terror attacks in 2015 just prior to the signing of the Paris Climate Agreement. They apparently needed a group sacrifice for that historic event as well.

Many Alt Media journalists, private investigators and deep researchers have reported that not a single instance of blood, of a dead body, of a bleeding victim, or a bullet hole has been photographed or videoed. Likewise, there has not been a single credible hospital interview with the bed-ridden wounded that are typically conducted in the wake of such mass casualty events. Why has not a speck of hard evidence of gunshots been seen or presented by the media — mainstream or alternative — to date?

Because, there was an extremely covert criminal conspiracy conducted to accomplish much more than just another American massacre by yet another white guy who allegedly snapped.

Conclusion

The “Harvest” main event, the timing and the location all indicate a clandestine plot was afoot far from anything the Alt Media has yet to report on. The numerology, astrology and quasi-religious overtones also reflects a profoundly occult intention. Moreover, it is the end result of this “Hollywood production” which indicates that this event was quite deliberately carried out to further the destruction of the American Republic.

There were clearly Archonic forces of chaos at work in front of the Mandalay Bay on Sunday, October 1, 2017. As always, the NWO cabal will attempt to impose their tyrannical order out of the manufactured chaos they fabricated. Therefore, it has never been so essential to watch their every move, especially the doings of the U.S. Congress for the rest of this year.

ARCHONS: The Demonic Entities That Run The Global Control Matrix

By shedding the light of awareness on their misguided plans, the perpetrators can be exposed and their misguided schemes short-circuited. And, the American people will then be one step closer to reclaiming their constitutional republic.

State of the Nation
October 3, 2017

Source

[1] Yom Kippur / יום כפור

[2] Yom Kippur

Screenshot of original article:

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Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=85342

[Cidersomerset]

Yep...

... Luxor... Pyramid... Sphinx... Obelisk... Sacrificial ground...

That was going thru my mind in #113 .....(I just noticed the '13') Uhm !...


This gives a good visual of the overall attack......

The Sphinx & pyramid gives it a odd look , probably just me......
symbols , numbers etc .... ISIS Ancient Egyptian goddess.

Shooter's angle prevented people from escaping

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Published on 3 Oct 2017
CNN's Tom Foreman looks at why the Las Vegas shooting was so deadly.


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This is a odd one posted on RT America and may have been the last non involved
person to see him, and says he looked normal and was a regular who always
ordered online. " good tipper " which seems to be a common comment....

'I was looking crazy guy in the face' - Pizza delivery man supposedly last to see Vegas shooter

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Published on 4 Oct 2017

The last guy to deliver pizza to the Route 91 music festival assailant that killed 59
and wounded over 500 spoke out about "looking at a crazy guy in the face," in
Mesquite, on Tuesday.Skylar Dexter, a Domino's Pizza employee, described
Stephen Paddock as a frequent customer, who was "always a good tipper"
and "never complained about a pizza".

[uzn]

pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)

the gun was in his mouth when the weapon was discharged, this is the most efficient way to suicide (or kill someone and make it look like suicide?) with a fire arm as you shoot out the base of your brain leading to rapid (not instant) death.

The rounds hit the floor first and his blood flowed under them, there should be a very large mess on the ceiling or wall behind him as well.

And why was there blood on his chest? (in the picture were his head is visible)

[TrumanCash]

Yes, this screams Masonic. The Great Pyramid with a capstone and 33 floors. Shooter (allegedly) on 32nd floor of adjacent hotel. Target in front of Luxor.

The strobing light on the lower floor appears to be just that to me. After carefully viewing the various videos of it I noticed that the strobing continues AFTER the sound of shooting stops. The taxi video shows it best. Since light travels much faster than sound this doesn't fit. Although a strobe light may have been planted there as a distraction.

If so, that also brings up the question that if an apparent strobe light shows up like that through the tinted, unbroken windows then it also follows that the repeating flashes of rifle fire would also be visible. Logically, it would be even more visible since the glass was broken out there on the 32nd floor making the flashes even more visible. Has anyone found any videos that show flashes from the 32nd floor where the windows are broken out?

Also, the bottom picture above in Herve's post #182 shows the Luxor hotel with a cylinder of light being emitted from the capstone of the pyramid. This has the same look as the cylindrical beam of light from Ra/Ptah's ship above the pyramid wherein the initiate is floated up from the sarcophagus through the pyramid and into the ship. It even has a very slight bluish cast to the light that I am very familiar with since I have been floated up in these beams into flying saucers many, many times. Masonic symbols come from the ETs that use them and the symbols are there. Of course, y'all know me--I sometimes look at conspiracies from different possible viewpoints and am unafraid to go out beyond the fringe.

And Hervé made a salient reference to "sacrificial ground" which directly correlates to the human sacrifice rituals conducted in the sarcophagus room of the Great Pyramid during the same experience of being floated up into the flying saucer from sarcophagus. It did not occur to me that this was a sacrifice until Herve mentioned it. So many dots connecting now in the route 91 "Harvest". (And if this is indeed a "harvest", who or what is being fed?)

I've never seen that beam coming out of the capstone of the Luxor before. It just struck me in a different way than anyone else because of my previous involvement with the Anunnaki, specifically Ra and Ptah, and being floated from the sarcophagus in this beam of light. It was startling to me. It made me wonder if we might experience an ET false flag in the future. Just speculation of course and there's a lot of that going around now so that's just a thought that crossed my mind.

To me this incident is definitely a false flag. If the alleged shooter actually did the shooting, it appears to me that he has been MKUltra'd. More likely he didn't do the shooting, IMO. Either way it appears to me that he played the usual role as the patsy.

[Gaia]

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas.



As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him.

But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…

#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

#2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window. A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

#6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News made this point…

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?

#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

#12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

#14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…

In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”
#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.

Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost…

A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.

Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.

Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.
Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.


if you weren’t convinced, this video should definitely do it.

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/914847463424507904/video/1

Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/16-unanswered-questions-about-las-vegas-shooting-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-talk-a

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on Before it's News...not sure of the original source...I'm sure the experts here will find it.

Photo of a Dead Stephen Paddock? – LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA

http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/10/photo-of-a-dead-stephen-paddock-3559159.html

Viking

[Gaia]

Youtube has already removed half of the video links so if you still want to watch it here a link : https://www.liveleak.com/browse

[lloyds]

TargeT beat me to it, IF (and that's a pretty big "IF") these photos are real, it looks as though he shot himself with the muzzle in his mouth. Given further thought, he may have been shot like that before the swat team entered and left as a "patsy"

just surmising...

[Hervé]

A few more points from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zx7.html):
The photo below is being marketed as "Police secure area after Mandalay Bay shooting". It appears legit. If so, there is no official story, it is DOA.

Ok, to get things started:

First of all, this photo is huge, and clear. save it (with a double click, not a right click) to desktop and then view it as large as needed to confirm the following:
1. The windows that should be broken by this time on Mandalay Bay are not broken. They must have been kicked out later in the night.

2. There is no ongoing medical cleanup, and the stage is turned off. You can't see the ground, but it is obviously a no action moment. Additionally, there is no investigation happening at Mandalay Bay in the appropriate room because the lights are off. The appropriate room is 9 floors down from the top of where the vertical lights start, or 6 floors down from where the exterior (wider) concrete starts.

3. This photo is obviously staged, and was taken on Giles street. It is obvious the street is shut down at the time of this photo, thus confirming the time frame it was purportedly from. Traffic in Vegas never stops, you can't have this type of photo going on at any time unless the street is shut down. Also, the street is covered in litter, which Vegas does not tolerate. This would strongly indicate that it was indeed taken after a horde of concert goers split.
WHAT IF the sound of gunfire was piped through the speakers, and it never happened at all? The speakers would surely be good enough to fake it. I am not going to expound on this, but I gotta say, this never made one second of news in Mexico which is very odd. Was this purely an American psy op? It is still clearly night time in this photo (below), why are there no police or ambulance lights present if there is a huge recovery operation underway? Why are the lights out in the room this happened in? Why are the windows still there? THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM . . . . .


http://82.221.129.208/you%20copied%20this%20wrong%20this%20is%20the%20low%20res%20image.jpg
(http://82.221.129.208/supremelyweird.jpg)High rez picture Here (http://www.cbs19.tv/img/resize/content.wwltv.com/photo/2017/10/02/GettyImages-856494168_1506931421780_11276197_ver1.0.jpg) (<---)


Important to note: The left window that is later broken (after this photo) has a reflective or interior lit portion on it in this photo. It is not a drape sticking out, because it is only showing on the bottom portion of the window, and other similar anomalies show up on many windows in this photo. Please reference the other (daytime) photos that clearly show it is completely broken out later, which you can clearly see is not the case in this photo.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/02/17/44F42A0A00000578-4939872-image-a-2_1506960864341.jpg

This labels the 31st floor as it being the 32nd floor... just count 6 floors down the change in building design to find the "broken windows" floor



http://82.221.129.208/OOOOOPS.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/02/15/44F5E52200000578-4939872-image-a-120_1506952972439.jpg

THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM . . . . .
Then, there is this strange blip on the radar screen:
[...]

On that note, don't forget how damning this Israeli newspaper report is, which happened only 5 hours after the shooting, long before the police could have had any specific answers to report. This bunked news report, released WAY TOO EARLY proves Israel was involved in this shooting:


http://82.221.129.208/israelhaditfirst.png
When a screw up is that grave, there's no getting over it. They called the patsy by his "Islamic name" when his family claimed he was agnostic, and did it before the dust settled. How did the Israeli paper come up with such specific Islamic insights so quickly?
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So... what is it:


Israeli intelligence giving off the wrong name/guy? or,
SWAT/FBI shooting the wrong patsy?

[Cidersomerset]

#LasVegasShooting #DeepState #FalseFlag Suspicions
— Lionel on "Real News With David Knight"

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Published on 4 Oct 2017
False Flag: A political or military act orchestrated in such a way that it
appears to have been carried out by a party who is not in fact responsible.

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I posted these vids to show there were real casualties, despite whatever else
may have been going on.......

Iraq War Veteran Helped Direct Cops To Vegas Shooter’s Room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0APKg_r6lw
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Far from his Fort Worth home, Bethel is in Las Vegas for an IT conference. Now,
police are crediting the Haltom High School graduate with helping lead them to the
room where Stephen Paddock, 64, from Mesquite, Nevada was shooting into a
crowd of more than 22,000 people.

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Iraq vet steals truck, races dozens to hospital after Vegas shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP3Pm9p-H_M
Published on 3 Oct 2017
Marine veteran Taylor Winston and his girlfriend were dancing at the Route 91
Harvest country music festival when gunfire began Sunday night. Instead of fleeing
the scene of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, he drove more
than two dozen victims to the hospital. Norah O'Donnell reports.

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Father of local shooting victim talks about daughter's call from hospital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXwIRAk-M4
Published on 2 Oct 2017
Norfolk nurse Allison Crute is recovering in a Las Vegas hospital after getting shot
in the arm, while her father waits and prays back home in Virginia Beach.

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Las Vegas massacre survival stories emerge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6KgCqUQD4
Published on 4 Oct 2017
Claudia Cowan shares stories about heroes.

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Trump: Doctors, nurses have done a job that's incredible

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Published on 4 Oct 2017
The president and the first lady met with shooting survivors at Las Vegas hospital.
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Gowdy: Vegas shooting is an 'act of unmitigated depravity'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du2D5SV4A2U
Published on 4 Oct 2017
On 'The Daily Briefing,' the congressman discusses the future of the gun control
debate in the aftermath of the shooting

[uzn]

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High rez picture Here (http://www.cbs19.tv/img/resize/content.wwltv.com/photo/2017/10/02/GettyImages-856494168_1506931421780_11276197_ver1.0.jpg) (<---)

[B]

Oh Boy, did you notice the "Devils Hand" ? In the middle on the left a tiny bit down. It´s a red "Devils Hand" holding a coke. Left from the "Route 91 Harvest".
The longer one looks at the picture the stranger it becomes. Thats with the barefoot guy with no t-shirt on having an american flag in his pocket?

[Akasha]

http://82.221.129.208/you%20copied%20this%20wrong%20this%20is%20the%20low%20res%20image.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/supremelyweird.jpg)

Oh god, I'm seeing patterns again.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZD0wEOXA3js/maxresdefault.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

Alex jones has posted several new segments but they are a bit muddled with
on going speculation about Paddock possibly working for a intel agency and this
could have been a arms deal gone wrong, not worth posting those vids yet as it is
fluid live thought/debate.

This vid is from Paul Joseph Watson focusing on the one shooter theory...

Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre

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Paul Joseph Watson...
Published on 4 Oct 2017
Conspiracies debunked, real questions asked.

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'Nobody even knows who he was' - Mesquite residents react to neighbor shooter

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Published on 4 Oct 2017

Residents of Mesquite, Nevada, described the moment they heard neighbour
Stephen Paddock was a neighbour in their retirement community on Tuesday.

[waves]

I've changed my mind about the brother and smell a complicit rat there too.

I noticed some of the points this guys makes too about the second interview, and realize now that they really are big red flags that should be spotlighted.

But nobody has mentioned what I think is an even bigger red flag about it - when in history has one of the main PTB players, CBS, let a live interview run-on unedited for 20+ minutes?? There's not a chance in hell of it happening unless they knew what they were going to get and being done for a specific agenda.

Wish this guy hadn't titled with 'shocking discovery' like also used by so many false sources, but I think he does a good job anyway of listing those agenda points thru about minute 13 of this 18 minute video.

This rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDnPSrWe2-E

[Cidersomerset]

I've changed my mind about the brother and smell a complicit rat there too.

This is where Alex is going , I was not going to post this yet as I said in # 197,
but since you've posted the vid above its on the same theme , the vids are a bit
rambling at times...Investigative journalist Laura Loomer suggests Eric Paddock
may of had a earpiece in and at one time almost said what sounded like Arms
dealer or something , but corrected himself...........

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Is Las Vegas Killer's Brother Being Manipulated?

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Published on 4 Oct 2017
Laura Loomer joins Alex Jones live via Skype to dissect statements
made by Stephen Paddock's brother, Eric Paddock, on consecutive
days following the Las Vegas shooting.

Experts Agree: Las Vegas Shooting Was Terror Attack Against
Christian Conservatives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9MpOChtIFs

Published on 4 Oct 2017
Alex Jones breaks down Col. Tony Shaffer's analysis on Fox News
pointing out how Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter, was
clearly targeting conservatives who may have voted for Trump.


Are Las Vegas Police Covering Up Events Which Led To Shooting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We7IZ22uu6Y
Published on 4 Oct 2017
Investigative journalist Laura Loomer joins Alex Jones live via Skype to break
evidence she recently received from employees of the Mandalay Bay resort that
contradicts official Police reports.

[turiya]

Is The Cabal Getting Ready For Another Event?
Episode 1393b (https://youtu.be/N0fW55zS8mA?t=11m5s)

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VIDEO (https://youtu.be/N0fW55zS8mA?t=11m5s)
Relevant article in the report starts @ 11m5s

____________Relevant Article_____________

THEDURAN

CONFIRMED: Vegas shooting suspect prescribed dangerous
drugs – just like many previous mass shooters (http://theduran.com/confirmed-vegas-shooting-suspect-proscribed-dangerous-drugs-just-like-many-previous-mass-shooters/)

https://i2.wp.com/theduran.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/drugs-5.jpg?resize=364%2C205

by Adam Garrie (http://theduran.com/author/adam-garrie/)
October 4, 2017, 14:58
The Las Vegas Review-Journal has obtained information that Stephen Paddock, the suspect in the largest mass shooting in modern US history was prescribed a powerful psychotropic drug called diazepam in June of this year, just under four months prior to the shooting.

This fits a a decades long trend among mass shooters and others who engage in cruel and unusual criminal acts being on powerful, yet legal psychotropic drugs.

This means that The Duran accurately predicted two crucial realities in respect of the suspect’s profile, first of all that there was a connection to Philippines (http://theduran.com/breaking-vegas-suspect-wired-100000-account-philippines-week-shooting/) where an almost identical shooting took place 4 months prior to the Vegas massacre and secondly, that suspect Stephen Paddock was likely taking powerful psychotropic drugs. Both of these claims have now been confirmed.

According to reports from Las Vegas journalists (https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/),
“Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21. A woman who answered the phone at Winkler’s office would not make him available to answer questions and would neither confirm nor deny that Paddock was ever a patient.

Paddock purchased the drug — its brand name is Valium — without insurance at a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day it was prescribed. He was supposed to take one pill a day.

Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodizepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behaviour. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam can also trigger psychotic experiences, according to drugabuse.com”.
According to the Nevada state monitoring report, the suspect Stephen Paddock was first prescribed the drugs in 2016.

This validates an earlier report in The Duran which questioned whether the suspect the the Las Vegas mass shooting was taking powerful psychotropic drugs as were most previous mass shooters.

Below is the entire original story from The Duran, reproduced in its entirety:
The United States has the highest rate per capita use of anti-depressant drugs (http://uk.businessinsider.com/countries-largest-antidepressant-drug-users-2016-2?r=US&IR=T) and boasts the highest consumption of opiates (https://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/27/americans-consume-almost-all-of-the-global-opioid-supply.html) in the world. However, according to the World Health Organisation, the United States is not the country with the highest rates of clinical depression (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-09-14/the-10-most-depressed-countries), in spite of US doctors tending to over-diagnose mental disorders in comparison with the global average.

Moreover, there is a clear linkage between criminals who engage in mass shooting attacks and their use of psychotropic anti-depressant drugs. This relationship has been ignored for too long. The mass shooting problem in the United States is a drug problem and many in the US remain in denial. As this piece shall also detail, individuals working for international terrorist organisations have something in common with lone-wolf shooters. The point of commonality is not ideology, but psychotropic drug use.

Until governments such as that of the United States, cracks down on big pharmaceutical companies, black-market drug dealers and the deep state’s involvement in narcotics trafficking (https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-drug-lords-a-brief-history-of-cia-involvement-in-the-drug-trade/10013), things will only get worse. It is no coincidence that the number of mass shootings (https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us/25shooters.html?mcubz=0) as well as cruel and usual homicides have increased in-line with the use of psychotropic drugs (https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624).

Furthermore, society must work diligently to stigmatise drug use until such a point where being a drug addict is socially derided to the same degree as being a member of a known terrorist organisation.

The following is a list compiled by WND news (http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/), detailing the mass shooters and other obviously insane killers, known to be taking psychotropic drugs prior to or during their killing sprees:


Bradley Stone, a former Marine in suburban Philadelphia, shot and killed his ex-wife Nicole Stone, her mother and her grandmother, and he ‘chopped’ Nicole’s sister, her husband and their 14-year-old daughter to death with an ax. Nicole Stone’s 17-year-old nephew was the lone survivor of the three-home massacre. Stone was being treated for mental health issues. After the six slayings, he committed suicide with a lethal mixture of depressants, antidepressants and schizophrenia medications, his autopsy revealed. Police found Bradley Stone’s body in the woods a week before Christmas, 2014, a day after he killed his six victims, police told the New York Daily News (http://ssristories.org/pennsylvania-ex-marine-shot-ex-wife-chopped-her-family-poisoned-himself-autopsies-new-york-daily-news/).



Aaron Ray Ybarra, 26, of Mountlake Terrace, Washington, allegedly opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University in June 2014, killing one student and wounding two others. Ybarra said then he “feels he identifies with one of the Columbine killers, whom he identified as Eric Harris,” counselor Deldene J. Garner wrote later in a chemical dependency assessment filed in Edmonds Municipal Court. Ybarra had been referred to the counselor following his arrest in July 2012 for driving drunk on an Edmonds sidewalk. He reported “being diagnosed with Psychosis and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder,” the report said. On occasion, “voices scared him,” Ybarra told the counselor. He said he’d been prescribed with Prozac and Risperdal to help him with his problems.



Jose Reyes, the Nevada seventh-grader who went on a shooting rampage at his school in October 2013 was taking a prescription antidepressant at the time, and had told a psychotherapist that he was teased at school, the Associated Press reported. Reyes, 12, opened fire Oct. 21 at Sparks Middle School, killing a teacher and wounding two classmates before committing suicide. His doctor had prescribed 10 mg of Prozac once daily, according to police reports. Toxicology reports indicated that at the time of autopsy the suspect had a generic form of Prozac, Fluoxetine in his system consistent with the prescription given.



Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old shooter who killed 20 students and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Connecticut, had been prescribed several psychiatric drugs, including Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine, the Business Insider reported (http://ssristories.org/the-antipsychotic-prescribed-to-adam-lanza-has-a-troubled-history-all-its-own-business-insider/). “Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior,” Business Insider reported.



Reno Hospital shooter Alan Oliver Frazier, 51, killed his doctor and wounded one other person before killing himself in December 2013 in Reno, Nevada. Frazier took Prozac but didn’t like being dependent on the medication and would sometimes stop using it, his ex-girlfriend told the Associated Press. (http://ssristories.org/6-p-m-update-suicide-note-found-at-almanor-home-of-reno-hospital-shooter-chicoer/)



Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis sprayed bullets at office workers and in a cafeteria on Sept. 16, 2013, killing 13 people including himself. Alexis had been prescribed Trazodone by his Veterans Affairs doctor. Trazadone is a generic antidepressant that is seldom used anymore to treat depression but is widely prescribed for insomnia, experts told the Washington Post (http://ssristories.org/navy-yard-shooter-was-defense-contractor-13-killed-in-rampage-associated-press/).



Aurora movie theater shooter James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58 in the July 20, 2012, tragedy in Aurora, Colorado. Thirty-eight days before the attack, the psychiatrist treating suspect James Holmes told a police officer that her patient had confessed homicidal thoughts and was a danger to the public, according to court documents unsealed in April 2013 and reported on by the Denver Post (http://ssristories.org/aurora-theater-shooting-documents-doctor-reported-james-holmes-was-threat-to-public-the-denver-post/). The psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, also told the officer that Holmes had stopped seeing her and had been threatening her in text messages and e-mails, the documents state. The officer, Lynn Whitten, responded by deactivating Holmes’ key-card access to secure areas of University of Colorado medical campus buildings, according to search-warrant affidavits. Police found medications in his apartment, including sedatives and the anti-anxiety drug clonazepam. They also found the antidepressant sertraline, the generic version of the antidepressant Zoloft.



A 20-year-old woman accused of opening fire and shooting three people in a Gig Harbor, Washington, grocery was charged with murder in October 2012, after one of the victims died. Laura Sorenson appeared in Pierce County Superior Court, where prosecutors filed a charge of first-degree murder against her two months after the death of David Long, 40. Sorenson is accused of walking into the Peninsula Market just before 1 p.m. on Aug. 11, 2012 and firing at customers until she was tackled to the ground. Witnesses told police that Sorenson said something about “killing” people prior to pulling out a revolver from her purse and firing four to five shots. After the shooting, Sorenson revealed to detectives she has a mental condition and is on medication, court documents said, adding she wanted to kill herself and wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone else first, the Komo News reported (http://ssristories.org/prosecutors-gig-harbor-market-shooter-intent-on-killing-someone-komo-news-2/).



The mentally ill gunman who killed a worker and wounded several others at a University of Pittsburgh Medical Center psychiatric hospital in March 2012 had previously threatened staff at an affiliated hospital with a baseball bat. Medical records and other information show 30-year-old John Shick, held a grudge, believing he had misdiagnosed illnesses ranging from a bad ankle to pancreatitis to erectile dysfunction, Allegheny County District Attorney Stephen Zappala Jr. said. Shick twice went to UPMC Shadyside hospital in February with the bat and threatened the staff, and yet Pittsburgh police were not called, Zappala told the Associated Press (http://ssristories.org/pa-hospital-could-be-liable-in-fatal-shooting-associated-press-2/). Zappala said investigators hadn’t yet determined why Shick targeted UPMC’s Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic, where he was treated twice after he was kicked off the Duquesne University campus for harassing female students with repeated requests for dates. At the second visit, a clinic doctor urged Shick to resume medication for schizophrenia — after his mother told doctors he stopped taking it months before. Shick walked out and skipped a follow-up appointment in December.” His contacts at UPMC began to get more serious and disturbing after that,” said Deputy District Mark Tranquilli, who handles homicide cases for Zappala. In Shick’s apartment, investigators found 43 drugs used to treat 20 conditions, from anti-depressants to medicines for intestinal worms.



Mohamed Merah fell in a hail of bullets in a March 22, 2012 raid after shooting seven people at a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, after telling police who sought his surrender that he regretted not “going back to the Jewish school” which would have enabled him to kill more children, according to comments reported by the French newspaper Journal du Dimanche. Merah had been prescribed psychotropic drugs and sleep aides “to calm his stress,” a doctor said.



It was reported in March 2012 that Staff Sgt. Robert Bales had killed 15 innocent civilians in Afghanistan, a horrific crime that men in his unit said went beyond the pale even for someone suffering from PTSD. It was later revealed by his wife that Bales was being treated with anti-depressants. She and her husband were both on antidepressants, “as is the rest of the army population….okay maybe not everyone. Just the ones that have been in for several years now, the ones who will actually admit when things are really screwed up,” she told the Daily Beast (http://ssristories.org/military-wives-rally-around-wife-of-accused-afghanistan-shooter-robert-bales-the-daily-beast/).



Anders Breivik, known as Norway’s “laughing gunman,” killed 77 people, many of them children, in 2011. Norway officials amassed pages and pages of analysis of the horrific crime, but almost nobody noticed that the smirking Breivik was taking large quantities of mind-altering chemicals, the Daily Mail reported (http://ssristories.org/norway-shooter-was-taking-a-combo-of-steroids-amphetamines/). In this case, the substances are an anabolic steroid called stanozolol, combined with an amphetamine-like drug called ephedrine, plus caffeine. The authorities and most of the media were more interested in his non-existent belief in fundamentalist Christianity, the Mail reported.



Anabolic steroids were also used heavily by David Bieber, who killed one policeman and tried to kill two more in Leeds, England, in 2003, and by Raoul Moat, who last summer shot three people in Northumberland, killing one and blinding another. Steroids are strongly associated with mood changes, uncontrollable anger and many other problems.



Jeff Weise, culprit of the 2005 Red Lake High School shootings, had been taking “antidepressants.”



Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves. Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s 1 in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.



Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, California, in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.



Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Ore., and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.



In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.



In Paducah, Kentucky, in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.



In 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.



47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Kentucky, killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.



Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”



John Hinckley, then age 25, took four Valium two hours before shooting and almost killing President Ronald Reagan in 1981. In the assassination attempt, Hinckley also wounded press secretary James Brady, Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy and policeman Thomas Delahanty.



Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in the family bathtub near Houston. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified: “She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child: “What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. In November 2005, more than four years after Yates drowned her children, Effexor manufacturer Wyeth Pharmaceuticals quietly added “homicidal ideation” to the drug’s list of “rare adverse events.”



12-year-old Christopher Pittman struggled in court to explain why he murdered his grandparents, who had provided the only love and stability he’d ever known in his turbulent life. “When I was lying in my bed that night,” he testified, “I couldn’t sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing through my mind telling me to kill them.” Christopher had been angry with his grandfather, who had disciplined him earlier that day for hurting another student during a fight on the school bus. So later that night, on Nov. 28, 2001, he shot both of his grandparents in the head with a .410 shotgun as they slept, then burned down their South Carolina home, where he had lived with them. “I got up, got the gun, and I went upstairs and I pulled the trigger,” he recalled. “Through the whole thing, it was like watching your favorite TV show. You know what is going to happen, but you can’t do anything to stop it.” Pittman’s lawyers would later argue that the boy had been a victim of “involuntary intoxication.” They said his 30-year sentence was excessive for someone his age and claimed the “heavy doses of anti-depressants he was taking sent his mind spinning out of control.” Doctors had him on Paxil and Zoloft just prior to the murders. Paxil’s known “adverse drug reactions” – according to the drug’s FDA-approved label – include “mania,” “insomnia,” “anxiety,” “agitation,” “confusion,” “amnesia,” “depression,” “paranoid reaction,” “psychosis,” “hostility,” “delirium,” “hallucinations,” “abnormal thinking,” “depersonalization” and “lack of emotion,” among others”.

Further lists (https://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html)detailing the number of specific school shooters (https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/)on psychotropic prescription drugs. It is important to note that these lists do not include the black-market narcotics that many homicidal criminals have been known to take.

While many in mainstream media are quick to blame weapons themselves for the criminal actions of wicked individuals, the linkage between the consumption of psychotropic drugs and mass shootings in the United States is the real story. While all people on psychotropic drugs are not mass shooters, most mass shooters are on psychotropic drugs.

Even when it comes to terrorism, drugs are frequently a crucial factor.

SOURCE (http://theduran.com/confirmed-vegas-shooting-suspect-proscribed-dangerous-drugs-just-like-many-previous-mass-shooters/)

[Bubu]

"first of all that there was a connection to Philippines where an almost identical shooting took place 4 months prior to the Vegas massacre"

Havent known of any massacre here in Ph that even come close to it. If the article is talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_San_Jose_del_Monte_massacre. there were only 5 death as compared to more than 50. and it was not a celebration or music festival, far from being identical. The suspects escape after the crime but were hunted and killed apparently by law enforcers or vigilantes or both.

[waves]

This sure seems authentic, but frankly I'm now holding my opinion on everything for the time being.

This is a cabbie with her camera and mic on, at first casually sitting in the cue waiting for a customer at Mandalay. Keep in mind that she is talking regularly to dispatch whose side of the conversation you don't hear. The sound of gunfire starts and her observations are very interesting. She is advised to drive away for safety and in a little bit some fleeing concertgoers jump in her cab. It's all recorded until they get out.

<<the link I just finished watching was gone when I tried to post it here. This is another link to the same thing that doesn't seem to show as a youtube video, but will take you to some page where it plays....for now>>

It was titled:
UNREAL & Unseen footage Vegas Mandalay bay.... wait for it - YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/embed/435CC8cFIEM

[KiwiElf]

The real evidence is disappearing at a rapid rate - the vid I was watching went down as I was watching it! I really don't think "they" are going to be able to keep the lid on this!

[ThePythonicCow]

The real evidence is disappearing at a rapid rate - the vid I was watching went down as I was watching it! I really don't think "they" are going to be able to keep the lid on this!
A few hours ago in this Youtube video, one of the people I subscribe to on Youtube, jsnip4, explains that a video he posted about this Las Vegas shooting a day ago was taken down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6F48q0tn74

Jsnip4 goes on to explain that Youtube would remove any video that posted graphic violence, and so when he wanted to share a video showing actually wounded victims a day ago, he did not upload it to Youtube, but only uploaded a short video recommending to his listeners that they follow the link he provided to the video over on LiveLeak. Youtube took down even that video of jsnip4, not allowing him to link to the other site for that video.

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Part of the modus operandi of the minions of the elite bastards who are charged with pulling off such operations as this appears to include deliberately getting out a variety of confusing and conflicting narratives, through various means, including main stream media, alternative media, and including both supporting, rebutting, leaking, and suppressing such various narratives.

It becomes a real sh*t storm playing on our various emotions and biases and blind spots, both individual and collective.

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My current guess (without having done any serious investigation) is that there were multiple, trained and directed, shooters with highly lethal automatic weapons, and that this is a major "false flag" event, meaning the lies, half-truths, secrets, cover-ups, and psy-ops will be thicker than fleas on a mangy dog, for many, many, years to come.

So, for example, some of the conspiracy theory minded people, and some of the not so inclined people, that I read or listen to (Jim Stone and Bombard's Body Language, in this case) are both concluding that the absence of videos on Youtube showing the wounded means something. Jim Stone figures it means that there really were only few or no wounded or killed. Bombard figures that it means that the talk about it not being a real, lethal, shooting event is bogus conspiracy talk because she can read in the body language of some of the witnesses she sees being interviewed that they really did witness something horrific and bloody ... so she (from what I can tell) tends to throw out all the conspiracy talk.

In short, the selective suppression of news by controlled media (and Youtube certainly is controlled media ... owned and operated by American intelligence's best buddy, Google) ends up supporting a variety of more main stream or more conspiracy theory minded, interpretations as to what really went down.

... as I said above, a real sh*t storm obscuring the truth and playing on our various individual and collective emotions, beliefs, and confusions.

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"They" do not expect to cover this up ... not entirely. Rather they expect to have confusion, controversy and conflicting views abound, for a generation to come.

[waves]

These police dispatch transcript excerpts seems to be evidence for multiple shooters.... at a lot more hotels than has been reported too.

I think these are two different sections of the same dispatch starting and ending at different times, they both have parts the other doesn't.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40&t=1978s
15:10 We're getting from civilians that there might have been three shooters.

15:18 We've interviewed multiple people < > concert venue and it's on the north side of Hacienda and the East Side of Las Vegas Boulevard saying that there are multiple people shot or were shooting in the concert venue.

18:03 We've just spoken to security at Mandalay they say they have shots fired on 29 and the 32nd level

19:15 We might need to switch these channels. We're going to need a dedicated one for this 32nd floor I think. He shot down the hall and hit a security guard.
....pause, continues....
19:23 We have a four man team up here and we have another element coming to us so we're going to have < > on the 32nd floor. We will need the 29th floor. It sounds like it's confirmed that there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons.

19:54 Get somebody with a camera and see if we can get cameras watching that 29th and 32nd floor

20:44 Please advise all units to have their vehicles locked. People are going in trying to grab shotguns.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xAcTKNpDeY
45:03 (dispatch).......Confirming the Mandalay Bay and Ali Baba and Giles are the 2 shooting locations. Do we have a third? (NOTE: Ali Baba and Giles are nearby street names.)

1:04:20 (dispatch) There's one that came in at 23:06 hours second hand advisor that there was a shooter at the front desk of New York New York.

1:04:35 (officer) Right outside New York New York

1:04:36 (dispatch) And then approximately 150 subjects sheltered in place inside the kitchen area there.... and two shots were fired inside casino floor..... and there's several subjects down at New York New York in Zoomanity and being taken towards the < >.

1:05:13 (dispatch) If there's not already strike teams en route send two strike teams en route. They need to advise their call sign and we need updates as soon as they get there to New York New York...break.

1:06:54 (dispatch) Ok now I'm getting information of an active shooter at Tropicana

1:07:14 (dispatch) Please be advised that there is now an active shooter at the Tropicana, active shooter at Tropicana.

1:07:17 (dispatch) Be advised we getting multiple calls of active shooters in multiple locations may or may not be diversion < >.

1:12:03 (officer) < > citizen fired two shots in the park area of New York New York.

1:12:11 (dispatch) Copy be advised two shots fired in a park area of New York New York. Now they're also saying one at RAF.

1:12:23 (officer) The park at New York is clear. Negative shots fired.

1:13:50 (officer) I got medics reporting that they're getting shot at in front of the Tropicana.

1:14:00 (dispatch) We have a strike team available send them to the Tropicana.

1:14:12 (officer) ....Strike team already en route to the Tropicana

<<<<< a bunch of statements about 'suspect down in Room 135 Floor 32', then more gunfire is reported...>>>

1:17:05 (officer followed by dispatch repeat) Please be advised another explosive breach going off Room 135 Mandalay Bay floor 32

1:17:15 (dispatch) We have reports of shots fired from the Tropicana Hotel

1:19:35 (dispatch) Now we're getting reports of shots fired at Caesars and the Bellagio.

1:21:11 (dispatch) Do we have any updates on either Bellagio or Caesars to have strike teams en route there?

1:21:18 (officer) We have a guy with a gun here..

1:21:22 (dispatch) What's your location?

1:21:25 (officer) Paris.

1:21:42 (officer) Is that reported or confirmed?

1:22:45 (officer) We got people running and security trying to point out where this gunman is and we can't find him.

[neutronstar]

This sure seems authentic, but frankly I'm now holding my opinion on everything for the time being.

This is a cabbie with her camera and mic on, at first casually sitting in the cue waiting for a customer at Mandalay. Keep in mind that she is talking regularly to dispatch whose side of the conversation you don't hear. The sound of gunfire starts and her observations are very interesting. She is advised to drive away for safety and in a little bit some fleeing concertgoers jump in her cab. It's all recorded until they get out.

<<the link I just finished watching was gone when I tried to post it here. This is another link to the same thing that doesn't seem to show as a youtube video, but will take you to some page where it plays....for now>>

It was titled:
UNREAL & Unseen footage Vegas Mandalay bay.... wait for it - YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/embed/435CC8cFIEM

There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.

[Wind]

There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.

One comment says: "I was a proponent on the full auto conversion hypothesis, sometimes the gunfire resembled something along the lines of a m240b, but hearing it from this vantage point, it does sound exactly like bump firing across different rifles, both standing and on a bipod system of sorts."

Now if it was two guys with an M60 it would be even more disturbing to think about, but who knows what's the real agenda behind these kind of events. Awful nevertheless.

VJ1Xt3OzipA

[cascadian]

I really appreciate the effort of project avalon members to analyze the recent massacre incident. The information initially forthcoming indicated the accused shooter worked for Lockheed-Martin in the past. This raises all kinds of red flags a la deep state connections. Just thinking out loud here. cheers tim

[amor]

Last night I saw an excellent video about the Las Vegas shootings which showed that there could have been shooters located at two other hotels as well as the Mandalay, but a fourth site was atop two TANKS 100 ft. in the air and one half the distance away from the crowd as the hotel shooters would have been. The above videos definitely revealed more than one shooter and more than one location. Two windows were broken at the Mandalay, suggesting two shooters there. The close shots, I believe, came from the TANKS which were only 500 ft. away and produced the loudest shots.

A young woman overheard another woman saying that everyone there would be killed. This was 45 minutes before the shots were fired. This definitely suggests a plot involving several people and not a reclusive lone gunman.

Two separate reports were different regarding the shooter being shot. One said the shooter was killed by police and the other said that he had shot himself. If the latter occurred out of sight of the police before they arrived, it suggests that he was shot by the other shooter at the Mandalay so that he could not talk about the plot and who else was involved. He was a Patsy. A report said a large sum of money was deposited at his bank in the Phillipines (for doing the job?).

I think Alex Jones has nailed what this is all about, beside an excuse to ban guns. He points out that it is to destroy Donald Trump's business interests in Las Vegas and to destroy him politically. This is a Mafia plot of the hotel owners of the city in league with the NWO, etc.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on Before it's News...not sure of the original source...I'm sure the experts here will find it.

Photo of a Dead Stephen Paddock? – LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA

http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/10/photo-of-a-dead-stephen-paddock-3559159.html

Viking

Found this which ties in with the above piece of info... Was he really an arms dealer....?

Alternative media sleuths across the world are trying to get to the bottom of the Las Vegas shooting and the following video, made available by Twitter user Red Pill, is going to lead to even more questions.

We won’t put words into Eric Paddock’s mouth. You decide what he intended to say:

“Steve had no help… Steve didn’t take help… it did not take a village for Steve…”

“Steve was an arm…”

**Eric Paddock Realizes Mistake**

“I’m sorry… Please don’t…. I’m using a colloquial term…”

There are two likely possibilities for what Eric Paddock meant to say.

First, shooter Stephen Paddock recently wired $100,000 to the Philippines, a country known for an illegal arms trade that in 2014 led to the arrest of a Californian Senator. Thus, is it possible Eric Paddock meant to say, “Steve was an arms dealer,” prior to cutting himself off?

Or, perhaps, he intended to say, “Steve was an army of one,” a slogan used by the U.S. Army in recruiting commercials.

You decide:

more here

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shooters-brother-may-have-just-busted-this-investigation-wide-open-steve-was-an-arm-im-sorry-please-dont_10042017

Viking

[Cidersomerset]

This is a more coherent report & summery of the segments I posted on #199


Former SEAL Team Commander: Vegas Appears To Be Political Operation

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Published on 4 Oct 2017
Former Navy SEAL Craig Sawyer joins Alex Jones live via
Skype to break down how the tragic shooting in Las Vegas
is now being used as a political weapon to divide the American citizenry.

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Las Vegas shooting: Paddock's girlfriend denies knowledge of attack



US police have said the woman, a former casino employee, was living with Paddock
in Nevada .The girlfriend of the Las Vegas gunman who shot dead 58 people on
Sunday has said she had no idea what her "kind, caring, quiet" partner was
planning.Marilou Danley's comments came hours before police suggested Stephen
had been living "a secret life".

read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41504063

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Things still don't make sense his girlfriend say he found a 'cheap' ticket to the
Philippines , when he is supposed to be a generous millionaire. No harm in being
thrifty but why stress 'cheap ticket' .......

Stephen Paddock’s girlfriend thought him ‘kind & caring’

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Marilou Danley, girlfriend of the Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, said through
her attorney that the shooting came as a complete surprise to her, while it has
emerged that Paddock was prescribed valium in the past. RT America’s Simone Del
Rosario joins “News with Ed” to discuss the latest developments from the ongoing
investigation into the Las Vegas Massacre.

[ThePythonicCow]

Robert Steele is certain that his Las Vegas massacre is a Zionist False Flag, as he explains in the following interview, and on this page (http://phibetaiota.net/2017/10/robert-steele-las-vegas-false-flag-treason-most-foul-sheldon-adelson-michael-chertoff-central-to-largest-griftopia-zionist-two-party-tyranny-scam/) on his web site that can be reached at the URL https://tinyurl.com/LasVegasFalseFlag.
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[Arcturian108]

Folks,
It is clear to many of us that this was an orchestrated event, and I now believe that the guy who made the following video about the shooting being a harvest ritual resonates with me.
Jrcl5yyynAc

[neutronstar]

There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.

One comment says: "I was a proponent on the full auto conversion hypothesis, sometimes the gunfire resembled something along the lines of a m240b, but hearing it from this vantage point, it does sound exactly like bump firing across different rifles, both standing and on a bipod system of sorts."

Now if it was two guys with an M60 it would be even more disturbing to think about, but who knows what's the real agenda behind these kind of events. Awful nevertheless.

VJ1Xt3OzipA

I don't care if you can turn an AR 15 into a fully automatic. The sound is not the same, each type of gun has it's own unique sound. The gun in the video you posted doesn't sound like the gun in the video of the cab driver. It sounds like a heavy machine gun. The sound was identical to the sound a 240B machine gun.

Although listening to the video on Alex Jones above, that one sounds much different so who knows.

Like all of these events it gets really confusing.

[KiwiElf]

"They" do not expect to cover this up ... not entirely. Rather they expect to have confusion, controversy and conflicting views abound, for a generation to come.

It may happen a lot sooner ... I wonder if the very conflicted nature of "this beast" is what will create the uprising/civil war the Cabal so desperately wants to forment? (not the event itself - or any that follow), but the blatantly obvious lies and coverup after the fact??)

(Maybe President Trump's next Tweet should be:

"Is this a false flag? I'm going to find out! Make America HONEST Again!" ;)

- with apologies to Robert David Steele)

LOCK. THEM. UP!

[TargeT]

Bump fire M16
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240b cyclic fire:
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compare to:
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Certainly sounds like multiple shooters, but I also don't think it sounds a 240b based on the rate of fire; that sounds like it could easily be an AR-15 at high fire rates (a bit faster than a 240b, which tops out at 600 RPM (rounds per min) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun); M16's can hit 900+ RPM)

[Cidersomerset]

You can tell Mark Steyn has been looking at the alternate theories
and touches on the more interesting questions of was he more than
met the eye ? Did he have a accomplice ? what was on the note ?
was he planning to get away ? Why was his media profile so clean ?
If he cracked under medication how could he plan and carry out this
operation so ruthlessly ? He asks a lot in a five min segment and of
course there is no time for a proper debate just sound bites.....


Steyn: Vegas shooter's social media profile 'weirdly blank'

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Published on 4 Oct 2017
Radio host and author sounds off on the latest revelations - or lack thereof -
about gunman Stephen Paddock in the Las Vegas massacre and talk about
his leading a 'secret life.' #Tucker

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Robert Steele was on the Ritchie Allen show as well, he is only speculating


Robert Steele "As A CIA Officer I Ran False Flag Ops. Las Vegas Is A False Flag!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moIAjMjty90

Published on 5 Oct 2017

[KiwiElf]

Alex may be angling at the bigger picture.. ie, that there will be more massacres like this one leading up to a November "event" (...I presume that to be an attempt at all out civil war, as threatened by the Cabal/Nazi/psychopath, George Soros - who I suspect is involved with this tragedy) -

(... Jim Stone believes Mossad may be involved, apparently,... News of this appeared in an Israeli newspaper before it happened...) :idea:

http://82.221.129.208/.zy2.html

EXTRACT:

How would Israel know this, when it happened in Vegas at 10:08 vegas time, and they posted this a little after 3AM vegas time (originally) only to have it get repeated by another paper at 4:20 AM vegas time and get deleted in the original paper? How would the police investigators connect the dots in the dead of night before 3 AM (only to have that news make it back to Israel,) go through the publishing delays, and get originally posted at 3 AM?

Guess who owns Mandalay in Vegas? Soros recon alert – Soros “shorted” MGM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/74928z/soros_recon_alert_on_august_14_2017_soros_fund/

Excerpt: SOROS RECON ALERT: On August 14, 2017 Soros Fund Management, LLC placed $42,242,000 of put options on MGM Resorts. Who owns Mandalay Bay? MGM RESORTS. Soros shorted MGM.

Hedge funds are required to file a 13f which discloses the hedge funds positions. George “Soros’ hedge fund initiated 42mm worth of put options on MGM (basically betting the stock will fall in the short term). Soros bought well over 1mm shares of stock given it traded around 35-40 when the trade was initiated.

More at link

[Gaia]

During a lengthy press conference update on the investigation into the Las Vegas massacre, Clark County Sheriff Lombardo expressed his belief that gunman Stephen Paddock had to have help at some point but sarcastically says "maybe he’s a super guy."

Clearly showing the strains of being awake under serious stress for the last 72 hours, the sheriff explained...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/clark-county-sheriff-says-hard-believe-shooter-didnt-have-help-unless-hes-superman

[Hervé]

Shots fired at the Vegas Bellagio the same night as the concert attack? YouTube took down the video. (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/05/shots-fired-at-the-vegas-bellagio-the-same-night-as-the-concert-attack-youtube-took-down-the-video/)

by Jon Rappoport (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/) Oct 5 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/05/shots-fired-at-the-vegas-bellagio-the-same-night-as-the-concert-attack-youtube-took-down-the-video/), 2017

Yesterday (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/multiple-shooters-not-the-first-time/), I posted a video reporting shots fired through the front door of the Vegas Bellagio Hotel on the night of the concert attack.

My, my. YouTube took the video down. We found a new link. Don’t know how long it’ll work.


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Why did YouTube take down the video? On what grounds? It was truthful and therefore disturbing? The video was taken inside the Bellagio by a guest, and she speaks at length about the shooting incident.

I guess that’s too real. A new standard for violating the rules: “It’s too real, take it down.”

Or: “It’s obviously fake, it must be, because no approved media outlets reported that shooting, but it looks too real so it’s a great fake, take it down.”

Clearly, another shooting in Vegas around the time of the concert shooting would open up the door to the idea of a planned multiple attack, involving more than just a “lone crazy man at the Mandalay Hotel.”

Can’t have that.

No.

We’re already beginning to see new calls for eliminating “fake news” in the wake of the Vegas attacks. The Guardian is bemoaning the fact (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-shooting-youtube-hoax-conspiracy-theories) that many videos are being posted which question, doubt, and reject the official lone gunman scenario.

Can’t have that.

No.

Instead, what we need are more videos of police press conferences. We should bow down and accept that information. The Church of Police Truth. It’s the only way to get to heaven. Join now before it’s too late and you’re infected by the Other.

After working for 19 years as a reporter and author, I went online in 2001 and called this site nomorefakenews. There was a reason for that. It’s called mainstream news.

Jon Rappoport

[Gaia]

A friend of mind gave to me the link for this vid ... sensitive souls s'abstenir svp! Very graphic and gore!


So many people are claiming that they believe that this was a hoax because of the lack of videos an photos showing dead or bloody bodies…

Have a look at the chaos after the shooting.

Sad all my prayers for the victims :heart:


https://sotomayortv.com/bloodyscenelv/

[Hervé]

Did 9-11 Perps Plan Las Vegas Massacre for Profit? (https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/10/police-state-means-money%20.html)
(https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/10/police-state-means-money%20.html)
Henry Makow October 5, 2017





zNqxUuyHFzc
This mind-blowing documentary casts the Las Vegas massacre in a new light.

The goal is to create a high-tech police state where metal detectors are everywhere, not just at airports but at hotels and schools and malls. Indeed, unnoticed in the cry for gun control has been an orchestrated media campaign calling for scanners at all hotels, and one has already been implemented.

The same people who did 9-11 are poised to profit from Las Vegas. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?269408-George-Soros-Michael-Chertoff-Getting-Rich-from-the-TSA-Naked-Body-Scanners)

This brilliant must-watch 16 min documentary from "Black Child Productions" alerted me to proof Las Vegas was another inside job:
"las vegas is on their minds"

An anonymous poster predicted a mass shooting in Las Vegas three weeks ago and explained that the goal is to cash in on a police state.

4chan Warned About Vegas 3 Weeks Early: Possible Financial and Political Gain Behind Mass Murder (https://squawker.org/politics/4chanvegas/)

By Jack Kenrick - October 2, 2017 The Squawker

3 weeks ago, on 9/11 a mysterious 4chan user who went only by "John" made a series of at the time overlooked posts. He warned users to stay away from any gatherings of large groups of people in the Vegas or nearby Henderson areas.

Stating that he had insider knowledge of what he referred to as a "high incident project" that was set to occur soon. While the poster was ignored at the time, since nothing seemed to occur on the 12th. The fact this John wrote "I can't guarantee anything will happen tomorrow but las vegas is on their minds," seems almost frightening now that just a few weeks later the largest mass shooting in American history has occurred at this very location.


https://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/tTmLAXn.jpg?w=640&ssl=1https://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/Il0kscr.jpg?w=640&ssl=1


If we even consider the idea there could be any truth to such a plot in the first place, its not really all that unreasonable to believe the organizers could have simply adjusted there schedule by a few weeks. This could have been done for a myriad of reasons including just simply deciding the concert target eventually chosen served their purposes better. If true though even more troubling is the profit minded motivation behind the shooting that John went on to describe.


https://i2.wp.com/i.imgur.com/sW9wj0z.jpg?w=640&ssl=1



He states this "project" will be done with an endgame goal of passing new laws in Nevada regarding casino security. Making pricey new security screening machines mandatory for all guests. With even further more ambitious plans to follow suit in our schools and other public buildings if the public goes along with the casino machines easily enough. [B]He also specifically names former head of the Department of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff) and Casino owner and billionaire Sheldon Adelson (https://www.forbes.com/profile/sheldon-adelson/) as the two men set to profit most off the wave of new regulations set to spring up in response to the Vegas incident. It's not all that unreasonable even to believe that Mr. Chertoff might seek to profit from a new security panic in the wake of Vegas. Given that the man has already been accused of abusing the public trust (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123102821.html) by raising security fears among average American's in an attempt to sell his companies body scanners before, all the way back in 2010.


While the media paints the shooter Stephen Paddock as a lone wolf type and seems mystified over the possible motivations for a man, who the media and FBI at least keep claiming had no religious or strong political ideologies (https://squawker.org/analysis/antifavsisis/). A new theory has been emerging in the wake of the revelations above. With new information now breaking that the shooter was a rather active vegas gambler with recent large transactions to his name (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471). Could Stephen have simply been threatened into doing this horrible act by some third party, in the name of paying off some possible large gambling debts? His family as well may have been threatened. If Stephen wasn't acting of his own accord, then a number of the seemingly unexplained parts to this whole story do start making a lot more sense.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/Michael_Chertoff_2015_High_Res_Photo.png
(Michael Chertoff. We're governed by psychopaths. A satanic cult, i.e. Western society, makes members sick and then sells them a cure.)


Even if this is all one giant coincidence. The fact does remain that people like Chertoff and those behind similar companies do stand to profit quite nicely in the months to come from the new security panic this incident will likely produce.

https://squawker.org/politics/4chanvegas/


https://i1.wp.com/i.imgur.com/LS6aLLB.png?w=640&ssl=1

[Bill Ryan]

We won’t put words into Eric Paddock’s mouth. You decide what he intended to say:

“Steve had no help… Steve didn’t take help… it did not take a village for Steve…”

“Steve was an arm…”

**Eric Paddock Realizes Mistake**

“I’m sorry… Please don’t…. I’m using a colloquial term…”

There are two likely possibilities for what Eric Paddock meant to say.

First, shooter Stephen Paddock recently wired $100,000 to the Philippines, a country known for an illegal arms trade that in 2014 led to the arrest of a Californian Senator. Thus, is it possible Eric Paddock meant to say, “Steve was an arms dealer,” prior to cutting himself off?

Or, perhaps, he intended to say, “Steve was an army of one,” a slogan used by the U.S. Army in recruiting commercials.



I'd be quite sure that's exactly what he stopped himself saying. This is one time where Alex Jones, in his full-of-assumptions shoot-from-the-hip analysis of Eric Paddock, is completely wrong.

[turiya]

Whether or not Stephen Paddock did the actual shooting, it looks to me like he knew he was going to go down.

And, he took money for it, as he sent $100,000 to his Filipino girl friend to have. She says she didn't have a clue about what he was up to. But when she received the money she thought he was breaking up with her.

From my understanding...
This idea is typical with the thinking of Asian women in their culture.
I live with a Japanese woman. Over the years she had told me that she doesn't want to work as much as she used to (getting older) - just enough to get what she needs. I have not tried to push her to work any more than she wants to. Instead, I have tried to pick up the slack & work more - just to make sure the bills get paid. She does most of the cooking & won't let me clean the house.

At one time, because my business was doing quite well at the time, I had tried to give her some money (a few thousand) just so she would not be worried or stressed about not being able to get the things she wanted. She, in turn, would not take the money, because she thought I wanted to break up with her. I asked her why? She told me that it was a common thing for the man to do in the Japanese culture. A man - to give the woman a large sum of money meant he wanted to end the relationship. I assured her that it wasn't the case. But she still would not accept any money from me. I keep some money in a dresser drawer just in case she needs some to get some food, or whatever. But she is pretty adamant about not doing so.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sites/all/themes/ines_themes/independent_theme/img/apple-icon-114x114.png
Stephen Paddock's girlfriend on Las Vegas shooting: (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-paddock-girlfriend-statement-las-vegas-shooting-read-in-full-a7983786.html)
Read Marilou Danley's statement in full (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-paddock-girlfriend-statement-las-vegas-shooting-read-in-full-a7983786.html)

She said she had no idea he was going to be violent



Clark Mindock (http://www.independent.co.uk/author/clark-mindock) New York
Thursday 5 October 2017

______________________________________________

http://podcasternews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Washington-Post-Logo.gif
New details emerge about Marilou Danley, girlfriend of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/03/new-details-emerge-about-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-and-girlfriend-marilou-danley/?utm_term=.6890ed121f39)



"Danley, 62, said Paddock bought her a ticket about two weeks ago to visit her family in the Philippines and then wired money to purchase a home for Danley and her family.

“I was grateful, but honestly, I was worried, that first, the unexpected trip home, and then the money, was a way of breaking up with me,” she said. “It never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone.”

[Gaia]

Did 9-11 Perps Plan Las Vegas Massacre for Profit? (https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/10/police-state-means-money%20.html)
(https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/10/police-state-means-money%20.html)
Henry Makow October 5, 2017





zNqxUuyHFzc
This mind-blowing documentary casts the Las Vegas massacre in a new light.

The goal is to create a high-tech police state where metal detectors are everywhere, not just at airports but at hotels and schools and malls. Indeed, unnoticed in the cry for gun control has been an orchestrated media campaign calling for scanners at all hotels, and one has already been implemented.

The same people who did 9-11 are poised to profit from Las Vegas. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?269408-George-Soros-Michael-Chertoff-Getting-Rich-from-the-TSA-Naked-Body-Scanners)

This brilliant must-watch 16 min documentary from "Black Child Productions" alerted me to proof Las Vegas was another inside job:
"las vegas is on their minds"

An anonymous poster predicted a mass shooting in Las Vegas three weeks ago and explained that the goal is to cash in on a police state.

4chan Warned About Vegas 3 Weeks Early: Possible Financial and Political Gain Behind Mass Murder (https://squawker.org/politics/4chanvegas/)

By Jack Kenrick - October 2, 2017 The Squawker

3 weeks ago, on 9/11 a mysterious 4chan user who went only by "John" made a series of at the time overlooked posts. He warned users to stay away from any gatherings of large groups of people in the Vegas or nearby Henderson areas.

Stating that he had insider knowledge of what he referred to as a "high incident project" that was set to occur soon. While the poster was ignored at the time, since nothing seemed to occur on the 12th. The fact this John wrote "I can't guarantee anything will happen tomorrow but las vegas is on their minds," seems almost frightening now that just a few weeks later the largest mass shooting in American history has occurred at this very location.


https://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/tTmLAXn.jpg?w=640&ssl=1https://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/Il0kscr.jpg?w=640&ssl=1


If we even consider the idea there could be any truth to such a plot in the first place, its not really all that unreasonable to believe the organizers could have simply adjusted there schedule by a few weeks. This could have been done for a myriad of reasons including just simply deciding the concert target eventually chosen served their purposes better. If true though even more troubling is the profit minded motivation behind the shooting that John went on to describe.


https://i2.wp.com/i.imgur.com/sW9wj0z.jpg?w=640&ssl=1



He states this "project" will be done with an endgame goal of passing new laws in Nevada regarding casino security. Making pricey new security screening machines mandatory for all guests. With even further more ambitious plans to follow suit in our schools and other public buildings if the public goes along with the casino machines easily enough. [B]He also specifically names former head of the Department of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff) and Casino owner and billionaire Sheldon Adelson (https://www.forbes.com/profile/sheldon-adelson/) as the two men set to profit most off the wave of new regulations set to spring up in response to the Vegas incident. It's not all that unreasonable even to believe that Mr. Chertoff might seek to profit from a new security panic in the wake of Vegas. Given that the man has already been accused of abusing the public trust (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123102821.html) by raising security fears among average American's in an attempt to sell his companies body scanners before, all the way back in 2010.


While the media paints the shooter Stephen Paddock as a lone wolf type and seems mystified over the possible motivations for a man, who the media and FBI at least keep claiming had no religious or strong political ideologies (https://squawker.org/analysis/antifavsisis/). A new theory has been emerging in the wake of the revelations above. With new information now breaking that the shooter was a rather active vegas gambler with recent large transactions to his name (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471). Could Stephen have simply been threatened into doing this horrible act by some third party, in the name of paying off some possible large gambling debts? His family as well may have been threatened. If Stephen wasn't acting of his own accord, then a number of the seemingly unexplained parts to this whole story do start making a lot more sense.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/Michael_Chertoff_2015_High_Res_Photo.png
(Michael Chertoff. We're governed by psychopaths. A satanic cult, i.e. Western society, makes members sick and then sells them a cure.)


Even if this is all one giant coincidence. The fact does remain that people like Chertoff and those behind similar companies do stand to profit quite nicely in the months to come from the new security panic this incident will likely produce.

https://squawker.org/politics/4chanvegas/


https://i1.wp.com/i.imgur.com/LS6aLLB.png?w=640&ssl=1

Sheldon Adelson is the chairman of Las Vegas Sands, which is MGM Internationals competitor, were both putting in bids this year in Japan to build a multi billion dollar casino since they just legalized gambling there this year.

MGM owns Mandalay Bay. MGM's stocks just plummeted. Look at OSI System's Stocks.

https://stockinvest.us/technical-analysis/MGM

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mgm-resorts-downgraded-as-las-vegas-tragedy-leads-to-lower-outlook-2017-10-03

Adelson will get the contract in Japan now, watch. Oh, they found this "shooters" girlfriend in Tokyo, Japan, and she had been in Philippines.

Chertoff, Soros, OSI Systems will magically provide "security" measures for all casinos worldwide via metal detectors and other measures. Basically profiting billions off of what happened in Vegas. They all have major stock holdings in OSI Systems which provides the metal detectors. Many big Wall Street people do as well.

Keep up with the news in the following months regarding metal detectors in casinos and other places, along with other security measures to be seen.

[Cidersomerset]

I have been expecting this for years and with the highlighting of 'Fake' news
over the past couple of years particularly by the Trump campaign and presidency.
Also the Russia gate mania the mainstream and their masters have been fighting
back led by Clinton and many in the 'SWAMP'. When the BBC is acknowledging
it on the news , you can be sure there will be pressure to clamp down . Classic
'Problem Reaction Solution' as David Icke would say.


Videos on YouTube call Las Vegas Shooting a 'hoax' - BBC News

B1-IOj1I0GI

Published on 5 Oct 2017

=============================================

Aprox 25 mins in Sarah is asked about 'fake' news of the type used by Russia.
again aprox 32 & 39 mins in. This is a fairly frequent topic in the briefings ...

Watch Live: White House Press Briefing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRCIStzOfn4

Streamed live 1 hour ago
White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders
delivers an on-camera briefing to the press corps.

===========================================


CNN in particular and the lib press in general have been
in a on going feud with the white house over fake news
which is emphasized with this spat between Kellyanne
and Chris Cuomo.

Kellyanne Conway's full interview on Las Vegas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkDBqI1fe4
Published on 5 Oct 2017
Counselor to President Trump, Kellyanne Conway, speaks to CNN's
Chris Cuomo about the Las Vegas massacre, Puerto Rico and the
Trump administration.

====================================================
====================================================
====================================================


Back to Alex and Paul Watson....Recapping their views.

MSM Lies Exposed: Las Vegas Shooting Narrative Collapsing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XcL0techT4

Published on 5 Oct 2017
Alex Jones exposes the lies pushed by the mainstream media organizations to
control the narrative of the Las Vegas shooting while independent media conducts
true investigations

[Marikins]

What's left to say when these things tend to happen all the time in US?

ZtAJu5GRso0

It tells you the Empire wants to take down the last country who has some few freedoms and some guns. They are the psychotic murderers not the people.

[ThePythonicCow]

I would agree except for this. Can you find ANY privately posted videos about anything before, during or after from any of the 22,000 people!!!
---

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1507066205
WARNING. Very graphic video.
--


Folks,
It is clear to many of us that this was an orchestrated event, and I now believe that the guy who made the following video about the shooting being a harvest ritual resonates with me.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrcl5yyynAc

I took the following screen shot from the above video at the 7:09 mark. It clearly shows how, from the east side of the venue, the Mandalay hotel appears right over the top of the outdoor stage on which the Route 91 Harvest Festival was playing.

http://thepythoniccow.us/Route_91_Harvest_Festival_Screenshot_2017-10-05_14-32-54.jpg
This fits with what Jim Stone is reporting - that the shots were not fired from the Mandalay, but rather at least some of the shots were fired from the top of that outdoor stage, after the lights that had been shining on the performers were turned off, turned around, and shone down on the audience, thus blinding the audience from seeing where the shots were coming from.

This is so OBVIOUSLY a "Harvest Festival", performed in front of the Pyramid, Sphinx, and obelisk of the Luxor resort, all of which you can clearly see in the middle of the above image.

Jim Stone no doubt gets some details incorrect, but he's like a dog with a bone when he gets on a scam, as he has done here.

For example, consider again this picture, which was posted above and which Jim also posts:

http://thepythoniccow.us/lefttodie.jpg
No Medics -- No EMT's -- The victims were left to die. This was a Harvest Festival ... and those victims were the harvest.

Some of the images shown in the main stream media of amublances and emergency vehicles clustered scene show a wet street, after a rain. It did not rain in Vegas that day. Those images are just stock footage, taken some time in the past. More MSM fake news.

You can read more of Jim Stone's reporting on this event at http://jimstone.is

[Hervé]

Another notice from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zx5.html):

IMPORTANT: YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE NOW BEING RELEASED WITH FALSE SOUND TRACKS. (http://82.221.129.208/.zx5.html)

They are using the sound of chain fed machine guns and also cleaning them up to "prove" it was only one gun, and other hoakery to wreck the alt media, don't fall for it!

For example, the taxi video originally had very distant gunfire in it but now it is loud as hell near the hotel.

They did the same thing with cash for clunkers - the people destroying the cars were disgusted with what they were forced to do and it showed in the sound tracks, which were later swapped out with people hysterically laughing when the engines blew.

The dates on the videos never changed. The same type of thing is happening with Vegas now. If you did not have your videos cached before now, don't bother, what is out there now is wrecked. I'll have to check the videos on this web site also, to see if they are wrecked.

[Hervé]

[...]
This is so OBVIOUSLY a "Harvest Festival", performed in front of the Pyramid, Sphinx, and obelisk of the Luxor resort, all of which you can clearly see in the middle of the above image.
[...]
Indeed, see post # 182 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooter-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-527-injured&p=1183648&viewfull=1#post1183648) for a visual summary of "'Their' Harvest Moon" "celebration"...

[ThePythonicCow]

Indeed, see post # 182 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooter-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-527-injured&p=1183648&viewfull=1#post1183648) for a visual summary of "'Their' Harvest Moon" "celebration"...
Ah - yes - once again you beat me to it! Excellent.

See also this post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100040-Active-shooter-in-Las-Vegas-59-dead-527-injured&p=1183776&viewfull=1#post1183776), by Arcturian108, which is the post that got me thinking along these quite dark "Harvest" lines.

[KiwiElf]

What's so staggering, is that Avalon members - and the majority of the alt media, - can piece this sham together with what's out there, and yet the fakestream media, "intelligence" agencies, police et al, can't.? Riiiiiite. :Angel: (I'm being sarcastic of coz ;)) It's all over the net and "they" really think "their" narrative is going to stick? Maybe someone should tell them this isn't 1963 & it's not the JFK assassination! Maybe this time, they've overreached & shot themselves in the foot.

Google, YouTube etc are complicit with evidence tampering (and I hope someone launches a law suit!).

(I've downloaded a pile of the earlier videos/audios which hopefully haven't been tampered with)

[Satori]

Of course what took place in "Lost Wages" on the evening 10/1/2017 did not go down in the manner the so-called official sources have publically presented.

How does one know this with certainty? Simple. The events and alleged facts described to us are provided to the public by "official" government sources and the main stream "presstitutes."

As a general rule, one can take what the official sources say on any topic of significance, flip what they say 180 degrees and conclude the opposite of what were are told, and you will thereby be closer to the truth. This is an aspect of the proper use of the Hegelian Dialectic. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

[ThePythonicCow]

What's so staggering, is that Avalon members - and the majority of the alt media, - can piece this sham together with what's out there, and yet the fakestream media, "intelligence" agencies, police et al, can't.? Riiiiiite. :Angel:
The evil bastards don't need to persuade all of us. Indeed, I don't think they want to persuade us all.

They seem to prefer a "hung jury (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Hung+Jury)", with various contradictory views dividing us.

They seem to be well practiced in getting such results.

[waves]

What's so staggering, is that Avalon members - and the majority of the alt media, - can piece this sham together with what's out there, and yet the fakestream media, "intelligence" agencies, police et al, can't.? Riiiiiite. :Angel: (I'm being sarcastic of coz ;)) It's all over the net and "they" really think "their" narrative is going to stick? Maybe someone should tell them this isn't 1963 & it's not the JFK assassination! Maybe this time, they've overreached & shot themselves in the foot.

Google, YouTube etc are complicit with evidence tampering (and I hope someone launches a law suit!).

(I've downloaded a pile of the earlier videos/audios which hopefully haven't been tampered with)

Kiwi, I call this the second awakening, and I think this event in particular is really going to separate the honest alt players from the controlled opposition shills for us, I'm already taking big notice.

Meaning, it's time to awaken bigtime to the fact that MANY so called alt-news individuals and organizations, including many long established are really the controlled opposition - and have been for a long time. The names would surprise many who think they're doing the right thing by taking them seriously instead of the mainstream.

They pretend to be anti-fake news, anti-cabal, pro-truth, but in fact only go so far despite knowing a lot more and then STOP, many times also playing along with mainstream lies - tho knowing better - and adding a little pretend calling out, far more having the effect of reinforcing whatever mainstream lie.

Let's see who goes all the way and who doesn't. Let's see who ignores real evidence that doesn't support the mainstream and who doesn't. Let's see who plays along with conclusions that benefit the mainstream narrative IN ANY WAY.

I hope this will be a big housecleaning of the alt news world. To me the so called trustworthy are dropping like flies.

[Caliban]

I see all the bodies on the ground in the photo below--but where are the pools of blood around them?


And I watched that liveleak video https://www.liveleak.com/browse


Yeah, I can see blood in that and people apparently expired or expiring but it's so shaky and chaotically filmed that you can't verify anything from it. Remember the images of blood and sprawled bodies from Boston?

Speaking of "Boston", here's Richie From Boston talking about a FEMA drill in Vegas a few days prior:
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This is so OBVIOUSLY a "Harvest Festival", performed in front of the Pyramid, Sphinx, and obelisk of the Luxor resort, all of which you can clearly see in the middle of the above image.

Jim Stone no doubt gets some details incorrect, but he's like a dog with a bone when he gets on a scam, as he has done here.

For example, consider again this picture, which was posted above and which Jim also posts:

http://thepythoniccow.us/lefttodie.jpg
No Medics -- No EMT's -- The victims were left to die. This was a Harvest Festival ... and those victims were the harvest.

Some of the images shown in the main stream media of amublances and emergency vehicles clustered scene show a wet street, after a rain. It did not rain in Vegas that day. Those images are just stock footage, taken some time in the past. More MSM fake news.

You can read more of Jim Stone's reporting on this event at http://jimstone.is

[neutronstar]

No Medics -- No EMT's -- The victims were left to die. This was a Harvest Festival ... and those victims were the harvest.

Some of the images shown in the main stream media of amublances and emergency vehicles clustered scene show a wet street, after a rain. It did not rain in Vegas that day. Those images are just stock footage, taken some time in the past. More MSM fake news.

You can read more of Jim Stone's reporting on this event at http://jimstone.is

Not necessarily. Real events are chaotic and these are not military medics. Emt's might be ****ting their pants in live gun fire. You can never be to sure.

The only thing I know for certain is the official story doesn't add up.

Also, I really don't think the people that do these have a problem with killing people, so from their perspective, why try to fake it when it would be easier to do it for real.

[Nasu]

Shady aspects to this story so far:

1. Mystery woman who warns everyone going to die 45 mins before the shooting started then removed by security.
2. suspicious videos replaced with innocuous videos on Facebook within hours of posting.
3. non violent speculation videos removed on YouTube within hours of posting.
4. Mandalay Bay receipt for "shooters" room showing two occupants.
5. Multiple videos of several shooters in different casinos now deleted.
6. police radio traffic recorded on scanner mentions two shooting locations.
7. lights turned onto the crowd as the shooting starts.
8. windows at casino not smashed that night but smashed the next day.
9. ex neighbor calls into radio station to say he thinks that shooter was unlikely to be dead suspect.
10. current neighbors didn't know him and thought house was empty snowbird home.
11. girlfriend didn't know anything about anything other than thought she was being dumped because of money transfer.
12. shooter's highly suspect brother has no motive.
13. shooter wealthy gambler who owns two planes and several homes with zero motive.
14. planned meticulously in secret but no exit plan as he booked his room in his own name.
15. shooter recorded gambling on day of massacre and using girlfriends gambling card so as to gain future comp points for her to use....

Did I miss anything??

The only thing I have heard the MSM mention on that list is the UNLIKELY possibility of an accomplice.

Clearly the reason for this is gun ownership in general and bump stocks in particular, lets ban them quickly and get back to work..

This video below is interesting, he gathers together some of the BS we are being fed as well as an interview with a new witness we have not heard before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFb0xeZ9Gx8

whatever your view on gun ownership, is there a country other than the USA where so many rights of the people are enshrined and protected by such open gun rights, warts and all? Any country left? Don't mention Switzerland please, it is a privilege not a right and is very heavily regulated.

[neutronstar]

Shady aspects to this story so far:

1. Mystery woman who warns everyone going to die 45 mins before the shooting started then removed by security.
2. suspicious videos replaced with innocuous videos on Facebook within hours of posting.
3. non violent speculation videos removed on YouTube within hours of posting.
4. Mandalay Bay receipt for "shooters" room showing two occupants.
5. Multiple videos of several shooters in different casinos now deleted.
6. police radio traffic recorded on scanner mentions two shooting locations.
7. lights turned onto the crowd as the shooting starts.
8. windows at casino not smashed that night but smashed the next day.
9. ex neighbor calls into radio station to say he thinks that shooter was unlikely to be dead suspect.
10. current neighbors didn't know him and thought house was empty snowbird home.
11. girlfriend didn't know anything about anything other than thought she was being dumped because of money transfer.
12. shooter's highly suspect brother has no motive.
13. shooter wealthy gambler who owns two planes and several homes with zero motive.
14. planned meticulously in secret but no exit plan as he booked his room in his own name.
15. shooter recorded gambling on day of massacre and using girlfriends gambling card so as to gain future comp points for her to use....

Did I miss anything??

The only thing I have heard the MSM mention on that list is the UNLIKELY possibility of an accomplice.

Clearly the reason for this is gun ownership in general and bump stocks in particular, lets ban them quickly and get back to work..

This video below is interesting, he gathers together some of the BS we are being fed as well as an interview with a new witness we have not heard before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFb0xeZ9Gx8

whatever your view on gun ownership, is there a country other than the USA where so many rights of the people are enshrined and protected by such open gun rights, warts and all? Any country left? Don't mention Switzerland please, it is a privilege not a right and is very heavily regulated.

Well that interview puts to rest the idea that no one was actually shot. I had a hard time believing that something this big could be faked. Just too many people would have had to be involved for it to be faked.

[TinFoilSuit]

THERE IS NO BLEEPING WAY THE SHOOTING CAME FROM THE HOTEL ROOM

Jim Stone did allude to this as well - If the shooting came from the hotel, there is no way that it would have been loud enough to overtake the blaring sound of a live music concert, causing everyone to stop in their tracks. Not from 1200 feet away, no chance, no how, no matter the supposed echoing of the sound due to the shape of the hotel. Anyone that has shot a rifle outside knows this. Yes, it is loud if you're within 100 or 200 feet. But at 1200 feet? Not enough to create the sound that we hear in the original video.
It's clear to me that the shooting noise emanated from inside the venue - being so loud that it caused the band to stop playing.

TFS

[Antagenet]

As everyone I am trying to piece this all together. Seems like whether or not Paddock was a willing participant or not, there is a group
effort behind the vegas shootings (mandalay, bellagio etc).

I've been trying to weigh which group is more likely to be behind this.
Antifa, Isis/Jihad, Deep state/CIA, Globalists, Greedy Soros types trying to make $, or Satanists?
What if this is a combination?
Antifa and Muslim brotherhood teaming up to destroy our constitution and rights,
and deep state sympathizers/brainwashed idiots as useful puppets, with Globalists/Soros/Satanist funding?

This video helped coagulate my understanding.

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[Bill Ryan]

Could be more concise and structured, but this is definitely getting a lot closer to what really happened:


https://infowars.com/vegas-massacre-solved-cover-up-exposed

Alex's presentation is here. It contains some pretty interesting information. Keep watching to the very end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALJn6z8Eac

[Bill Ryan]

A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not :) — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.

[WhiteLove]

A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not :) — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.

Without going too far into the speculative territory, to me it appears someone is actively seeking to maintain human enslavement by injecting things such as this, mutilations and similar dark things into the reality that compress the energetic state of humans. A dark power tool framework at play heavily nested into the global core infrastructure. Many times it also appears these events are designed to provoke reactions that fit certain agendas and power goals while at the same time cause distraction, chaos and confusion. It is almost like a "dark power formula" that is being repeated over and over to enslave the people. The sucking of information from the public domain and the heavy secrecy of information and concealment of truth belongs to this same "dark power formula". It's vast.

[ThePythonicCow]

The evil bastards don't need to persuade all of us. Indeed, I don't think they want to persuade us all.

They seem to prefer a "hung jury (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Hung+Jury)", with various contradictory views dividing us.

They seem to be well practiced in getting such results.


A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.
As I posted on the previous page of this thread, I agree with what Bill said :).

In my view, Americans are being taught what the rest of the world has pretty much figured out -- it's ruling political, corporate and financial bosses are evil son's of b*tch*s.

Also, in my view, as usual, such operations as this Las Vegas massacre will be used to serve multiple purposes, such as

taking down the Anglo-American Imperialists (the power center is moving to the Orient),
profit making opportunities such as for those who shorted certain Las Vegas stocks,
increasing tyranny in the US (surveillance, gun grabbing, ...),
dividing Americans along more lines, as Bill describes,
providing cover for and distractions from the world financial and power transitions in progress, and
the ongoing Luciferian harvesting of the energy of terrorized humans (as I've commented above.)

I agree with Alex Jones (and many others) who have concluded that there were multiple shooters, which is the main "breaking" news that he offers in his video, above.

I do NOT agree with the implication of Alex's reporting that this operation was primarily the responsibility of some Islamic gun running operation or some such. Rather I figure that the responsibility for this Las Vegas operation goes much higher up the power pyramid than that.

I DID appreciate Alex's observation that heavy gambling at the Vegas tables, losing millions, is one of the best ways to launder money in the US at present. I didn't quite understand how it would work, but I'd guess Alex was right on this, and that this explains Paddock's heavy gambling for years ... that he was laundering the money that came from his gun running operations.

[turiya]

Some intersting things implemented in this analysis of the Body Language of the brother of suspected shooter Paddock....

This would be the second interview of the brother by the press.

Appears the analysis would suggest that is was, indeed, a conspiracy of several, and NOT a lone gunman...
Possibly, the brother was supposed to be involved, but backed out....
Body language & the language itself suggests that, at least, this brother is on the left-side of the political spectrum... so, this could mean that this was part of an attempt to ignite a civil war... Left vs Right... obviously, targeting of Trump & his attempt to move the nation further towards sovereign nation-state status & away from globalism control...


Body Language: Las Vegas Brother
Knows more than he is Saying
( Oct 4, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_Z-oEEt-c

I posted the second interview first - Body Language analyst seemed to find it more revealing... the first interview analysis is below...


Body Language: Las Vegas shooter's Brother
(Oct 2, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDOJWzF_trI

[Did You See Them]

Paddock worked for Space Shuttle booster maker Morton-Thiokol, a predecessor company of the Lockheed Martin from 1985 to 1988.
Morton-Thiokol's O-ring component on a booster rocket was later found to be at fault for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster in 1986.

http://news.brevardtimes.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock.html

[neutronstar]

A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not :) — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.

Could be planed by an AI system. That was supposedly the one of the objectives of the Jade Helm exercise a few years ago. To test an AI system for some purpose whether civil war or martial law. At least that was DJ's conclusion after researching Jade Helm. Just a thought.

[Noelle]

A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not :) — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.

Without going too far into the speculative territory, to me it appears someone is actively seeking to maintain human enslavement by injecting things such as this, mutilations and similar dark things into the reality that compress the energetic state of humans. A dark power tool framework at play heavily nested into the global core infrastructure. Many times it also appears these events are designed to provoke reactions that fit certain agendas and power goals while at the same time cause distraction, chaos and confusion. It is almost like a "dark power formula" that is being repeated over and over to enslave the people. The sucking of information from the public domain and the heavy secrecy of information and concealment of truth belongs to this same "dark power formula". It's vast.

We can probably add: It's a mega distraction, holding the focus not only of the masses who are still asleep, but also the focus of those who are waking up.

[Bill Ryan]

Paddock worked for Space Shuttle booster maker Morton-Thiokol, a predecessor company of the Lockheed Martin from 1985 to 1988.
Morton-Thiokol's O-ring component on a booster rocket was later found to be at fault for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster in 1986.

http://news.brevardtimes.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock.html

Yes, he was an auditor, an accountant. People making 2+2=55 and saying that he was somehow therefore an insider in the Lockheed Skunk Works (or had anything to do with the Space Shuttle disaster!) are hardly deploying incisive logic. :)

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[Bill Ryan]

Could be planned by an AI system.

Yes. What you're referring to here is highly sophisticated, classified, super-computer-driven predictive software, which wargames out all possible scenarios like a super-giant chess computer. I've been told by several insiders that this exists.

The strategists then make their decisions on what actions to take, the likely social, cultural and political outcomes being known with quite a large degree of confidence.