Do we create (or at least co-create) our reality and reality experience?

[Chester]

Yes, this is an old question but I would love to read where the current membership stands in regards to this question.

[Jantje]

I would say yes.
We and all those before us have created the mess we find ourselves in today. I would call that our shared reality.

All of that without magical thinking.

[Carmody]

Yes we do.

Which is why scientism and those who think the world is just atoms and clockworks, how their limited rules of physics can seem to work.

They project as a group that it does and all else is a false paradigm ....and a malleable reality has that working for them. It also fixes errors for them, locally, on the fly.

This was proven in meta tests that were based on the PEAR works in psychic sensitivity involving reality and time.

The odds against that conclusion being wrong or incorrect, are a good billion to one, or more.

Results in these areas of research have been vetted by the Us government offices of the US Academy of Sciences. All of it is based in published peer reviewed solid scientific works and testing.

https://universeisathought.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/the-field.pdf

Almost all of my contributions to this forum involve helping people understand the reality of this..er..reality.

As people project and it forms a path in reality for them, like some sort of reality sculpting snow plow....people can easily lie to themselves about ..anything, anything at all. As long as there is enough unconscious directed force behind it, it can form into something that supports them in some fashion or another.

So self lies can exist when they have enough unconscious force behind them, for the group to do something with it. Thus forms of government, cultural/social extremes, religions, and so on.

This is why various forms of esoteric extremist projected beliefs or forms of structured schooling in various forms of esoteric teachings...why they all have a functional core of a sort. Eg, satanism works as well as Christianity in a reality that is as malleable as the force of will that is behind the projection.

The conclusion is that neither satanism or Christianity is real or fundamental. Just the will and direction of the firehose of reality creation is real. That ..which is in/of the idea of a 'person', as individual or group, which is the actual force of it's function in the matrix of energy and dimension mixing we call 'reality. Ie, your ego awareness (which is of this 'space/matrix') reads these words. It is not the real you. The real you is of other space and is merely emergent in this space/place.. and is juxtaposed across it's fulcrum of flow.

As many things as you care to investigate, you will find the very fundamentals of a malleable/motional/changable reality behind and in and of it.

No need for a long form of esoterica to help explain it.

Start here, zero back to this, and and understanding of it will unfold without all the extreme layered complexity of the esoterica. Or do both, until it becomes clear.

[PathWalker]

Thanks for the question, here is a good answer I read recently in:
http://www.divine-cosmos.net/three-layers-of-your-reality-construct.htm



Whether you know it or not you exist within something akin to a super advanced virtual reality. One where your every thought, belief, and emotion is selecting what appears on the screen you call your reality. Understanding how your personal reality, and the collective reality you are part of, is generated has profound implications. And one of the most important of these is the complete liberation from your fears.

Before diving into how your reality is generated, and it's three layers let's do a quick review of the true nature of yourself and your reality — what you are and what you are a part of.

The Ultimate Nature of Existence

The ultimate nature of existence is that there is a singular consciousness which presides over a singular, yet multidimensional, field of energy that it can mold into any patterns it wishes by the exercise of its thoughts, intentions, and desires. And these patterns are everything seen and unseen. This consciousness has been referred to as universal consciousness, or cosmic consciousness, or source consciousness. And Source consciousness not only creates patterns of energy but it can also perceive and experience them.
http://divine-cosmos.net/images/posts/three-layers-of-your-reality-construct/sacred-geometry.jpg
Another way to think about these energy patterns is as information. Source consciousness can create, manipulate, navigate, and perceive information in the field. This allows it to create information that represents complete experiential environments or "reality constructs" and then dive in and experience them. There is only consciousness, information, and the perception of information and this allows for the creation and experience of "realities."

The world that you think exists outside of you is essentially an illusion — it is a purely perceptual experience of consciousness. The experiences are REAL, but the props are IMAGINARY. All the information that represents your reality was imagined into existence and is essentially just imagery that your consciousness is perceiving — very much like a virtual reality. There isn't anything out there; it's just an incredibly convincing perceptual illusion.

The way source consciousness experiences a reality construct is by creating a sub-thread of its consciousness, which has its own focal point of awareness and perception, and put's that focal point within one of these "reality constructs" and experiences it. Source consciousness is multi-threaded, and you are one of those threads — pure consciousness, non-physical and formless. And you have put your focal point of awareness and perception into this space-time reality to have this experience.

How Your Personal and Collective Reality is Generated

The way information is presented to your thread of consciousness is much like how a film projector displays the frames of a film strip. Every billionth of a second or so, a frame of information representing your reality is presented to and perceived by your consciousness (more about this in The Illusion of Time and Space (http://www.divine-cosmos.net/illusion-of-time.htm)). Unlike a film strip which has frames with content that was determined when the movie was produced, the movie that you call your reality contains some information that is pre-created and some that is created on the fly and then dynamically composed into final frames on the fly.

Conceptually, frames of reality are generated as three layers of information; foundation, background, and foreground and these then get combined into one cohesive picture. The information in each of these layers is produced in different ways and understanding how this works has great relevance to understanding and mastering the creation of your personal reality. Using the metaphor of a stage play these three layers might be considered; the stage, the setting, and the story. And make no mistake, your reality is your story, and you are the lead character as well as the director.

Surprisingly, even though it appears that you are a part of a singular collective reality with many players or actors, something a bit different from what you might have imagined is going on behind the scenes.

What's really going on is that each thread of consciousness (e.g; soul) is experiencing its own separate reality in which they are both the lead actor and director of their own stories. All the other actors in your story are just other souls playing stand-in roles in support of your story. You have agreements with many other souls to play parts in your reality — but it's your story, and they are all walk in cameo appearances.

Those souls playing roles in your story may or may not be engaged in their own version of the earthly reality. And you may or may not be reciprocating and playing roles in their realities. But there are tons of souls playing parts in each other's realities. Each soul is having its own independent experience in its own separate version of reality. How the reality of a soul, who might be playing a part in your reality, plays out will likely be different than your own.

The way a collective reality experience is generated is that the beings that share roles across the various individual realities agree to share information that represents some elements of the reality — specificallly, information representing the foundation/stage layer and the background/collective layer.

The process which generates each successive reality frame perceived by your thread of consciousness seamlessly combines this shared information with the information from the foreground layer (information created, and selected, and produced by you) into a seamless whole. The details of how this works are not entirely certain, but this is how it works in general.


Your reality is programmable, and you are the programmer.

Let's explore how the information that represents each of the three layers of your reality construct is produced and what degree of creative control you have over each.

The Foundation Layer – The Stage

The first layer of information that is included in the frames of reality that your consciousness is perceiving and experiencing might be appropriately called the foundation layer. This is the layer of information that represents the planet, and the elementals it's composed of, and the biosphere. It includes everything that supports human life and the human experience. This layer acts as the stage on which the human drama is played out on — both collectively and personally.
http://divine-cosmos.net/images/posts/three-layers-of-your-reality-construct/planet-earth.jpg
All the information (e.g; energy patterns) that makeup everything in this layer were created and are maintained by the intentions, thoughts, and imagination of non-physical beings (e.g; consciousnesses). These beings have dedicated themselves to creating and maintaining the major elements that make up our reality, and multitudes of other realities — a role often referred to as "construct holders." All the information that represents the foundation layer of our reality construct was imagined into existence by these beings! To learn more about construct holders, check out the section on 7th density beings in my article Ascending the Densities of Consciousness (http://www.divine-cosmos.net/ascending-the-densities-of-consciousness.htm). I may explore this topic further in future articles so follow the blog (http://www.divine-cosmos.net/three-layers-of-your-reality-construct.htm#follow) to stay tuned.

The most important implication of this is that our threads of consciousness are not creating this information and so we cannot ourselves change the nature of the stage through our own conscious thoughts and intentions. You are not directly creating the stage environment, our world, with your thoughts. You don't have any direct power to alter the information that represents it; you can only choose to explore and experience different parts of it by your choices and intent. This layer is part of the information that we all agreed we'd share across all of our individual realities to create the experience of a collective reality.

The Background Layer – Collective Reality

The second layer of information that is included in the frames of reality that your consciousness is perceiving and experiencing I call the "background" layer. This layer is the collective story/drama that's playing out on the foundation layer (the stage). These are the global and collective events and circumstances. It's all the stuff that you hear about happening in the world but doesn't necessarily directly touch you. It's the state of the world, the state of human society; it's what you see recorded in the history books, and discussed in newspapers and magazines. It's everything that's supposedly happening in the world, and everything that supposedly has happened in the world — most of which you never directly experienced — it appears to have happened to someone somewhere, but it didn't happen to you.
http://divine-cosmos.net/images/posts/three-layers-of-your-reality-construct/history-books.jpg
This layer of your reality construct is co-created by all the threads of consciousness (e.g; souls) participating in the collective reality construct. And we all agreed that it would be shared across all of our individual reality constructs — it is the backdrop to your personal reality — this is how collective reality experiences are constructed. The information in this layer is co-created by the collective — it is the average of all the thoughts, intentions, emotions, choices, actions, etc of all the souls involved in the collective reality construct. If we assumed that every soul's level or frequency of consciousness was the same, then each player in the collective reality construct would be equally contributing to the co-creation of the information in this layer.

Your power to shape the collective reality, to steer the course of collective events, with your own thoughts and intentions is limited. For example, if there were five billion people on the planet then your influence would be 1/five-billionth. But of course, not everyone is at the same level or frequency of consciousness. And at each higher level of consciousness, you have an exponentially higher degree of influence in the creation of the collective reality — the higher your state of consciousness, then the greater proportion that your thoughts and intentions influence the creation of the collective reality.

And here's the great thing, even thou you can't change the collective reality you do control which parts of the collective reality that touch you — the parts that you directly experience are completely up to you! Using the stage play metaphor, the collective reality is the backdrop to your personal story/drama. Which parts of this backdrop directly touch you depends on your thoughts, beliefs, intentions, desires, choices and more. Nothing from the collective reality can touch you unless you invite them into your direct experience with your thoughts! More on this very important point in a bit.

The Foreground Layer – Personal Reality

The 3rd and final layer of information that is included in the frames of reality that your consciousness is perceiving and experiencing I call the "foreground" layer. The foreground is everything that you directly experience. This is your personal reality, and you are 100% responsible for creating it. Everything you directly experience is either newly created by you or invited into your reality from the collective reality by your thoughts, beliefs, desires, etc! So even though you can't single-handedly change the collective reality (because it is co-created collectively), it doesn't really matter because you control which parts of it that you draw into your personal reality and directly experience.

You are essentially immune to any danger or peril or whatever that is out there in the collective reality if you don't buy into that it can affect you. And of course, the fastest way to draw stuff from the collective reality into your personal reality is to fear and worry about how the state of the world might affect you! Because as a creator, what you focus on you attract especially when it's combined with a strong emotion like fear. And don't kid yourself, if you are worrying about stuff that's fear.

So no matter what is happening in the collective reality, none of it can touch you unless you invite it. As an example, let's say that some calamity occurs in the collective reality that effects your home town. With the right "attitude" the Universe might arrange for you to be out of town when the calamity occurs. Or if you are home, you will miraculously remain unscathed or spared from the worst of it.

The right attitude to avoid directly experiencing events in the collective reality is to absolutely believe that you are creating your reality and to absolutely believe you are always safe — that nothing can harm you! If you fall into fear, worry, or doubt all bets are off!

Summing It All Up

You are creating your reality with your thoughts, beliefs, desires, and more. The backdrop to your story, the collective reality and the stage that it plays out on, are just there to create a context within which to play out your story and create your personal reality. You can create whatever you like in your life, and it is not limited to what's out there in the collective reality, but it does provide a grab bag of options to select into your life. But they are all truly optional — they can't become a part of your direct experience unless you invite them in with your thoughts. The collective reality is a distraction that lures you into focusing on what is and what was instead of what can be.
http://divine-cosmos.net/images/quotes/the-universe-reflects-your-thoughts.jpg

Knowing this enables you to stop worrying about what you can't change and start focusing on what you can — namely where you put your focus and attention to, what beliefs you hold, what thoughts you entertain, and what you imagine and create for yourself.

By deeply understanding how your reality construct is generated and that you are the one who controls the process you can experience a profound liberation from fear. And once you transcend your fears (http://www.divine-cosmos.net/nothing-to-fear.htm), especially if you master the other skills of deliberate creation (http://www.divine-cosmos.net/loa-pearls-of-wisdom.htm), you will find that your life experience will begin to improve dramatically.

Be fearless, dream big, and expect wonderful!
Jeff
jeff@divine-cosmos.net

[Mike]

I think we do create our realities. And co create them too. Not only with other human beings, but also with the creator itself, which, as my understanding goes..is everything around us.

And yet, there are other variables as well, such as destiny, pre ordained events, or just the high probability of things occuring..which imo were all put in place before we were born.

Reconciling the 2 isn't possible intellectually, this much is clear. It's a dichotomy intellectually, but it makes sense on an intuitive spiritual level. I have no way of proving this of course, but this is my feeling.

We can't have this conversation without discussing the nature of time, of course. And if we accept that all time - past, present n future - are all occurring right now, the slope becomes a little more slippery. But if we view time and space as a giant hologram - all occuring now but constantly in flux - we can see how the dichotomy might reconcile itself.

I think of it metaphorically as a giant painting on a wall, a "finished" product that is still changing itself...but within the confines of its completeness.

In any moment the past, present and future are set..but it can change on a dime. So yes our futures are determined and no they are not. It all depends on the moment in question.

So...its already all been created *and* we are all creating it now. If that makes any sense.

And now I will stop pretending like I know what I'm talking about

[WhiteLove]

A very very long time ago I had a nightmare. Many many years later, that nightmare became my reality. A long complex series of circumstances/events over many many years made it possible and then realized.

What to me therefore appears to be a fact, is that consciousness is somehow connected to future events - either potential future events or future events that have already at that point been set or future events that are so likely and detailed that information about them can be played way before they happen.

So what is going to happen, might already have been recorded and stored non-locally somewhere. That begs the question, how much do we really contribute in the creation process since it appears at least some of the future events can already be witnessed before they actually take place.

It is kind of a bit strange to think of, that tonight I might see a part of my life as it will be on a day 23 years from now.

At the current moment I think that God creates fruits of love into our collective reality under certain guidance by at least the individual but probably also by the collective, that there is a certain hallway/highway for an individual's life that is already set, but that within that hallway/highway it is the collective free will that ultimately determines on the detailed level what happens to individuals on the detailed scale.

Since I believe that God is a God of absolute love, I cannot imagine that when God seeds our world with fruits of that absolute love, that it is meant to cause confusion, distraction, fear or sadness. There must be a great and incredibly intelligent plan behind all of these seeds.

I am even thinking that realities are interconnected, such that one seed in this life might somehow have been planted to cause a certain realization in some other realm. In other words, I am thinking that there might be certain seeds of absolute love that hold such a high vibration when they are chosen out of free will, that their true manifestation/intent is experienced as a reflection in a higher realm where the vibration of that reflection is within the vibrational range of that realm. Therefore I am also thinking that whenever a being here on earth uses its free will towards a seed of absolute love, it literally impacts that being and its context in one or several realms. If that is the case then the point is not the direct outcome of using the free will towards seeds of absolute love, but to use the free will towards seeds of absolute love, unconditionally - so that as many as possible of the plans behind those seeds of absolute love may come into fruition in the totality of creation.

I have two strong indications that this might be the case, only that those manifestations have shown in dream, so they are indicative rather than concluded actual. (because to prove this you need direct access to multiple realms)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Even forgetting metaphysics and looking at it from the most basic of all levels, the reality we perceive doesn't spring up or materialize from nothing and from nowhere. We create, have created, and continue to create and cocreate, everything in our day-to-day experience.

[Wind]

We absolutely do!

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[Chester]

At some point I hope to write my own response to this question but I could not hold back a second longer with regards to what I am writing next...

These responses simply blow me away. These responses show me why this forum is such an wonderful place of which to be a member.

I am simply stating my gratitude for these responses and and my gratitude for this forum.

[DeDukshyn]

 
Great answers here, for certain.

I'll just add one tiny note ...

We are creators and cannot stop creating. It is all we do, whether that creation is an intention, a feeling, thought, a dream, a word, a physical manipulation, an energetic one, a spiritual one, we create on all frequencies constantly. However, we lost our original plan, our blueprint (is this what humanity searches for?). As a result, our creations have become more or less self serving, both individually and collectively. It is within these lost creations that we perceive (and thus experience) what we call evil.

Another view on this is that without that blueprint we have no context except that which is within ourselves, and we create only from what is within us, this then does create the reflection of what is inside us, both individually and collectively. Perhaps if we can see that much of what we refer to as evil, is merely unguided creations borne from a highly restricted context (our physical consciousness), as opposed to something outside of us that is attacking us, we could learn to overcome it.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Everything we have, has been one way or another created by our thoughts whether it's by our owned thoughts or thoughts that have been cleverly engineered by outside interferences such as media...TV, Newspapers ect.

Thoughts are the most powerful thing we have but unfortunately most people haven't got a clue how the control system works and allow their reality to be led by controlled consciousness.

Read some further info here on this thread...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10351-We-are-the-change

Viking

[Spiral]

Do we create or do things manifest in direct relation to what we need vis a vis our ontological state ?

Once I saw a thread on a forum which asked if anyone had ever had an original thought & if so what was it, no one was stupid or conceited enough to post anything claiming to be one oddly enough, pretty hard to be much of a creator if you can't have an original thought.

In the Bible (this post gets rapidly less popular lol) man is given the role of naming Gods creations, no where have I seen such a succinct & profound insight into the nature of our being.

Schrodinger's cat has been big with me the last year, at those moments when you escape cavernous jaws by nothing but belief, or refusal to entertain disaster,........ that said I'm not opening the box, I don't want to feed the bloody thing.

[Bill Ryan]

Great answers here, for certain.

I'll just add one tiny note ...


And I will, too. :)

Yes, we're not just watching the movie. We're deeply part of it, and it's all a collective improv.


Impossible coincidences,
Impossible repeated patterns,
Impossible conscious manifestations.
And, also 'impossibly', how we repeatedly meet up, like isolated Blue Wales in the huge ocean, with old friends (and also enemies) from previous lives.
This might not be evident to everyone reading this, but I know for sure this happens — not just occasionally, but frequently. I once sat down and listed 200 people who I knew from previous incarnations, and that was 25 years ago. The number now would be thousands. To say it's literally miraculous how this is all choreographed (or, somehow, choreographs itself with everyone's involvement and agreement) is a vast understatement. It almost defies our human ability to describe.

:star:

[Michi]

...
I call the "foreground" layer. The foreground is everything that you directly experience. This is your personal reality, and you are 100% responsible for creating it.
Summing It All Up
...
You are creating your reality with your thoughts, beliefs, desires, and more.

I don't think that's all there is to it.
There is some apparent random part which is neither "created" by the collective nor invited by myself - be it conscious or unconscious:

How about the sudden unexplainable personal adversities, f.x. like some physical problem? I don't remember having invited those.

[enigma3]

As Eastern spiritual teachings and now Western teachers who have awakened tell us, we don't create anything. THAT which is one (God, or whatever word you prefer) creates everything. Everything. THAT which is ONE creates ideas, feelings, and habits as they move through consciousness. That which is created in the realm of the senses comes thru us. We only perceive duality consciously (although space, which is right in front of our noses, is non-dual. Only one space). Non-duality creeps into the consciousness once in a while but for almost all of us, operates in the background. This perceptual limitation is what creates a personal "story" which feeds the brain created ego. Thus the world of appearances.
The idea that we create anything is wedded to the idea that we are all individual people having an individual "I", or ego. All people who have awakened see that there is no individual "I". It is the first thing that is seen upon awakening. When that is seen the individual story that supports the individual persona (ego) simply disappears. We live in a world of appearances. These appearances are truly not "real", but they sure do feel real. They keep on appearing as long as we have karma. Once all karma is exhausted, all appearances disappear and there is no need to take a body in the realm of the senses. So, this "reality" is a spiritual proving ground. Get beyond karma and REALITY comes into awareness. To sit at the right hand of God is to be consciously aware of the Reality beyond appearances. To bask in infinity.
The actual reality turns off many people. How dare you say there is no individual "I" and this is all appearances! "I have a deep seated fear of losing my "self". I say that and many others say that too. David Carse, Jed McKenna, Adyashanti, Meister Eckhart, Rumi, the Zen patriarchs, Richard Rose, Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tse. The list goes on and on. It grates on our precious ego, strikes a harsh dissonant cord at first. However, the reality of the awakened state is striking. And delicious. And inviting. Filled with light. When one gets to the understanding that there is no personal self, any question of creation of reality goes poof. This is our natural state. There all that is perceived as real or unreal, dream state or not, comes together as one. All paradox goes away. No more troubling questions. Now how delicious is that?! Here's a taste of it from Jed McKenna>

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/86669.Jed_McKenna?page=1

[Rich]

Indeed ACIM talks about this quite a bit.

Excerpt from lesson 338

I am affected only by my thoughts.

It needs but this to let salvation come to all the world. For in this single thought is everyone released at last from fear. Now has he learned that no one frightens him, and nothing can endanger him. He has no enemies, and he is safe from all external things. His thoughts can frighten him, but since these thoughts belong to him alone, he has the power to change them and exchange each fear thought for a happy thought of love. He crucified himself. Yet God has planned that His beloved Son will be redeemed.

[Jayke]

"The human mind is but a fickle shadow of divine ideas" (left hand path gnostic view)

"But when the human mind harmonises with divine images and becomes a conduit of the creative force, then tremendous beauty can be brought forth upon the earth." (Right hand path renaissance magus view)

Most of the time I just feel like I'm a passenger on the wild, exciting rollercoaster that is life, and I'd like to say that I was helping to co-create that reality, but then my heart would know that my ego was lying.

[Noelle]

"The human mind is but a fickle shadow of divine ideas" (left hand path gnostic view)

"But when the human mind harmonises with divine images and becomes a conduit of the creative force, then tremendous beauty can be brought forth upon the earth." (Right hand path renaissance magus view)

Most of the time I just feel like I'm a passenger on the wild, exciting rollercoaster that is life, and I'd like to say that I was helping to co-create that reality, but then my heart would know that my ego was lying.

Most times it does feel like a roller coaster. But lately it's been feeling like this ride.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhBC7gnczA

[Jayke]

Most times it does feel like a roller coaster. But lately it's been feeling like this ride.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhBC7gnczA

Lmao that genuinely made me laugh out loud :)

I remember flying to America for the first time and midway over the Atlantic the plane went through some severe turbulence, bottles of water were being flung into the air, food on plates was leaping on to the floor, luggage was falling out of the lockers. I was terrified! but when I looked up and noticed how calm and collected the air stewardess was just casually strolling through the isle, it made me realise it was just business as usual for people that have been through the ride before, and seeing how relaxed and calm they were, made me feel instantly more relaxed and calm within myself. (Even if it took a while for the nerves to settle)

There's nothing wrong with a little turbulence every now and then--it's the wings falling off that we've got to watch out for.

[KiwiElf]

Every thought you have, is a creation (try thinking of "nothing") ;)

[Whiskey_Mystic]

To say it's literally miraculous how this is all choreographed (or, somehow, choreographs itself with everyone's involvement and agreement) is a vast understatement. It almost defies our human ability to describe.

:star:
[/LIST]

And laugh at the number of times we've become aware of, and started chatting up, the stage hands, musicians, and prop people.... only to have them redirect us back to the stage to read our lines because that's what we came here to do. Duh. "Yes, yes, we see you too, now play you're role like you came here to do."

This is why the Taoist take on "enlightenment" is not to transcend the human experience, but to actually become fully human. I could do without the body odor and ear hair, though. The rest is pretty cool.

[Noelle]

Most times it does feel like a roller coaster. But lately it's been feeling like this ride.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhBC7gnczA

Lmao that genuinely made me laugh out loud :)

I remember flying to America for the first time and midway over the Atlantic the plane went through some severe turbulence, bottles of water were being flung into the air, food on plates was leaping on to the floor, luggage was falling out of the lockers. I was terrified! but when I looked up and noticed how calm and collected the air stewardess was just casually strolling through the isle, it made me realise it was just business as usual for people that have been through the ride before, and seeing how relaxed and calm they were, made me feel instantly more relaxed and calm within myself. (Even if it took a while for the nerves to settle)

There's nothing wrong with a little turbulence every now and then--it's the wings falling off that we've got to watch out for.

A little? And just think, we are co-creating that turbulence! ;)

[Jayke]

There's nothing wrong with a little turbulence every now and then--it's the wings falling off that we've got to watch out for.

A little? And just think, we are co-creating that turbulence! ;)

Are we now? I'm pretty sure that plane would have gone through turbulence whether I'd boarded it or not, the result of inter mingling forces that were already present in the aetheric mix at that particular moment in time. What we do get to create is how we choose to respond to those turbulent forces as we're moving through them--and I've gotta say--I'm not experiencing any turbulence whatsoever in my life right now, everything's perfectly serene and perfectly smooth sailing for the foreseeable future.

Even the scariest ride in the world can be enjoyable once you learn to anticipate its ups and downs.

[Lifebringer]

Yes, our subconscious minds and our emotions/karma and intent create the world our children will live in. WE are living the older victory aka V and War aka W generations nightmare. So we truly must focus on the good.:highfive: Evil is drawn to the negative for strength.:p

I would guess, other living beings are doing the same thing, henceforth the entire Universe by connecting to the Creator which "does" the materialization.:muscle::raining::idea::sun:

[findingneo]

I am pretty sure we do, to some extent. I used to think we had more control than we have, but I think we do have a certain amount of control.
I think this depends on a lot of things though, which are not so easy to get a grip of.

The first thing that comes to mind how we influence our experiences, is a time when I was in an area east of Lake Turkana, Kenya, almost 10 years prior to it becoming a national park. It was at the same time as Julie Ward went missing and was thought to have been murdered by Park Rangers. They were all acquitted and there has been talk that the then President Moi's son was somehow involved. As it happened, I was at President Mois's house for his 10th Anniversary Celebration with 4 or 5 other Westerners (the only Westerners there) at his house in the country.

At time I was not aware that Ms Ward had been killed. I was in the middle of nowhere on a scientific/adventure expedition. I lived in the bush travelling about by foot and in army trucks for 3 months with co expeditioners. We slept in tents or under the stars. A good navigator at the time, I was the one who went to map where the goat herder took his goats to graze each day. The map was hand drawn but it could be followed to see what pattern of grazing on what plants was made each day. We were usually out for 9 hours, just me and the goat herder. I could not speak his local tongue so we just sort of gestured. I made a joke of sorts about the scratches on this herdsman's legs. He laughed. We sat quietly every now and then with the goats grazing and climbing trees, then would move on. I had been told not to ask in any way, how many goats one owned as that was rude and to expect a spear in the stomach if I did. I made sure not to ask. After the scratches on the legs "joke", we stood up to move on. I turned away from the herder, expecting him to take the lead. We were in the middle of a huge thicket of acacia with very long thorns. We could hear wild animals but there were no humans wandering the desert for miles. At that moment, the herdsman grabbed me by the throat with one arm from behind and put a machete to my throat with the other. I thought that was it. I was 23. Had I panicked, I have no doubt I would not be writing this today. A quick movement with a very large sharp knife would have sorted the problem of a panicky tourist. Instead, I laughed at the irony of it. I am not the sort who does not get bothered. I worry quite a bit. But I knew there was nothing to prevent it, so I laughed. 2 days into my great adventure in Africa and it was over.

The laugh must have made the herder think I was not panicking and he just let go, slapped his knees and walked along as if nothing had happened. I was a bit shell shocked, had to follow him back as it was the best chance I had, and I simply did not go our again with him. After that, the expedition scientists made sure we were in at least pairs. My point is, had I panicked, it would have been a different story I am sure. But that was pure luck, often times you can't plan how your body or mind will respond to a major event. But it does show how different responses can alter the outcome and how it is a good idea to try and master your own emotions. Of course, sometimes even that is not enough to change what happens next. Something like death is usually pre planned prior to incarnating again anyway, with possible exit points along the way I think.

I remember being very, very stressed due to family stuff. I went to bed having a real fear of spiders that night even though I was not bothered most of the time. I had the feeling a spider the size of a dinner plate was going to come into my room, even though we had not seen a spider for months. I don't like killing anything, but I fetched the bug spray to put next to my bed that night. As I lay in the dark, I heard a scuttling in the chimney. It was open to the roof and into the room. I could hear loose soot falling as something was moving down the chimney. Just as I feared, a huge spider appeared in the dark gray night, as a black object against the background from the fire place and scuttled up the wall. I am relatively sure I was not having a premonition, but that I manifested it's appearance, my fear was so strong from the things that were stressing me that day. I had not seen a vision of it, I was just totally sure it was coming.

When it comes to our lives overall, I think we get to choose to a certain extent, what the major events in our lives will be, prior to the incarnation, but how we respond to it is the major test we face. I also think we get to choose the body we are born into and what impediments we may have or may end up with, but it is still a limited multiple choice. Supposedly, the more impediments, the more intensive learning for that lifetime. Some things you just can't change, like what happens to those around you. Part of a Karmic cycle that keeps repeating can be infuriatingly impossible to break, as you yourself are unable to do anything about it, except repeat it. That is why reincarnation reminds me so much of the Hunger Games. You don't want to play but you have to. You get to choose a few weapons (tools) and who will be your allies, but the rest of it is how you respond to the challenges. Quite often, the challenges are unfair. I cannot accept that all the bad things that happen in the world to the living creatures of this planet and to GAIA are the intent of the Creator.

[pueblo]

From watching a little Tom Campbell I understand that the 'mechanism' by which we create reality is based on probabilities.

Go to a virgin piece of land, never before seen by anyone, and what will you find? What you will find is what you would expect to find. Have you just walked through a forest? Then it's normal to expect to find more trees, maybe a stream. Were you at the North Pole? Then you would expect to find more ice, snow, glaciers, maybe a polar bear.

Tom uses the analogy of the tree falling in the forest and nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound? He says there is no tree, there is no forest! Not until it has been imagined into reality does the tree and forest exist. Suppose you notice a tree and on returning to the same tree many years later you would expect the tree to have aged, to be falling down perhaps, that is what gets rendered for you.

So, if through our expectations we control reality, then perhaps there is something really to be said after all for believing and expecting the best outcome in all things and at all times. Making ourselves really believe in our own PR as it were, is the hard part.

[findingneo]

I have tried the really believing thing Pueblo. I expected something to happen in a way so much, for years, that was the norm anyway, I was dumbfounded when it did not happen. I missed out because I really expected it. I should have just made the probability of it happening, much more likely, through steps that would bring it into reality. By the time I realized, it was too late.

There was one time when it did work. I believed when Dr Steven Greer said that his app for explaining how to make ET contact would work. I believed that, and it did work. I have since spoken to others that have tried it again and again and it has not worked. I am more careful these days, about what I do in regards to CE5's, but it did work, the very first time. I think belief may have helped.

[zen deik]

Personal realities sometimes get adjusted.... Living with a wrong belief 'childhood teachings' can be painful but very liberating....along with other beliefs.... My opinion you're reality grows or deepens for life... More of a discovery.... We do play a part

[Noelle]

There's nothing wrong with a little turbulence every now and then--it's the wings falling off that we've got to watch out for.

A little? And just think, we are co-creating that turbulence! ;)

Are we now? I'm pretty sure that plane would have gone through turbulence whether I'd boarded it or not, the result of inter mingling forces that were already present in the aetheric mix at that particular moment in time. What we do get to create is how we choose to respond to those turbulent forces as we're moving through them--and I've gotta say--I'm not experiencing any turbulence whatsoever in my life right now, everything's perfectly serene and perfectly smooth sailing for the foreseeable future.

Even the scariest ride in the world can be enjoyable once you learn to anticipate its ups and downs.

As for "we," I was referring to the collective that we call "humanity." :sun: And yes, I agree that how we respond makes a huge difference -- if not all the difference -- in what we perceive as turbulence.

[findingneo]

I kind of resonate with the explanation that someone gave that we get what we think about. That means that even if you think that "I don't want to live in a small cramped house" you are more likely to live in a small cramped house because you are thinking about a small cramped house. It does not matter that you don't want to live there as you vibrate at that which you think about and attract that energy. The point being, a person should instead not think about what they don't want, but what they do want. That way they are resonating with the frequency of what they do want and attract that frequency. I think I did not get what I wanted and expected, perhaps either because it was a karmic lesson preset or I was not thinking the right way for it to be created. I often thought I did not want the opposite, and perhaps therefore created the opposite. Or something like that. I certainly got a BIG spider, because that is all I thought about NOT wanting that one night.

[findingneo]

Speaking of turbulence, does anyone here find they throw a spanner in their own works if they get extremely stressed? Like really stressed? On occasions (not often, a handful of times maybe), I get complaints that I affect laptop monitors, they have turned brown, my phone does crazy things, the screen jiggles and it flicks through different modes, starts ringing people, keeps asking me to speak into the microphone when it is not in that mode, the keys lock, etc, traffic lights get stuck so I am caught in the turning lane for 8 cycles until I pull in front of traffic to go straight ahead and then it instantly changes to green from the stuck cycle, light bulbs go out, all electronic breakdowns. Anyone else have that problem? It sort of reflects overwhelming anxiety feelings in me, when I have lost my sense of control of a situation and feel impending doom. It is like that until I calm and realize the sky is not falling after all. Anyone?

[Noelle]

I am pretty sure we do, to some extent. I used to think we had more control than we have, but I think we do have a certain amount of control.
I think this depends on a lot of things though, which are not so easy to get a grip of.

The first thing that comes to mind how we influence our experiences, is a time when I was in an area east of Lake Turkana, Kenya, almost 10 years prior to it becoming a national park. It was at the same time as Julie Ward went missing and was thought to have been murdered by Park Rangers. They were all acquitted and there has been talk that the then President Moi's son was somehow involved. As it happened, I was at President Mois's house for his 10th Anniversary Celebration with 4 or 5 other Westerners (the only Westerners there) at his house in the country.

At time I was not aware that Ms Ward had been killed. I was in the middle of nowhere on a scientific/adventure expedition. I lived in the bush travelling about by foot and in army trucks for 3 months with co expeditioners. We slept in tents or under the stars. A good navigator at the time, I was the one who went to map where the goat herder took his goats to graze each day. The map was hand drawn but it could be followed to see what pattern of grazing on what plants was made each day. We were usually out for 9 hours, just me and the goat herder. I could not speak his local tongue so we just sort of gestured. I made a joke of sorts about the scratches on this herdsman's legs. He laughed. We sat quietly every now and then with the goats grazing and climbing trees, then would move on. I had been told not to ask in any way, how many goats one owned as that was rude and to expect a spear in the stomach if I did. I made sure not to ask. After the scratches on the legs "joke", we stood up to move on. I turned away from the herder, expecting him to take the lead. We were in the middle of a huge thicket of acacia with very long thorns. We could hear wild animals but there were no humans wandering the desert for miles. At that moment, the herdsman grabbed me by the throat with one arm from behind and put a machete to my throat with the other. I thought that was it. I was 23. Had I panicked, I have no doubt I would not be writing this today. A quick movement with a very large sharp knife would have sorted the problem of a panicky tourist. Instead, I laughed at the irony of it. I am not the sort who does not get bothered. I worry quite a bit. But I knew there was nothing to prevent it, so I laughed. 2 days into my great adventure in Africa and it was over.

The laugh must have made the herder think I was not panicking and he just let go, slapped his knees and walked along as if nothing had happened. I was a bit shell shocked, had to follow him back as it was the best chance I had, and I simply did not go our again with him. After that, the expedition scientists made sure we were in at least pairs. My point is, had I panicked, it would have been a different story I am sure. But that was pure luck, often times you can't plan how your body or mind will respond to a major event. But it does show how different responses can alter the outcome and how it is a good idea to try and master your own emotions. Of course, sometimes even that is not enough to change what happens next. Something like death is usually pre planned prior to incarnating again anyway, with possible exit points along the way I think.

I remember being very, very stressed due to family stuff. I went to bed having a real fear of spiders that night even though I was not bothered most of the time. I had the feeling a spider the size of a dinner plate was going to come into my room, even though we had not seen a spider for months. I don't like killing anything, but I fetched the bug spray to put next to my bed that night. As I lay in the dark, I heard a scuttling in the chimney. It was open to the roof and into the room. I could hear loose soot falling as something was moving down the chimney. Just as I feared, a huge spider appeared in the dark gray night, as a black object against the background from the fire place and scuttled up the wall. I am relatively sure I was not having a premonition, but that I manifested it's appearance, my fear was so strong from the things that were stressing me that day. I had not seen a vision of it, I was just totally sure it was coming.

When it comes to our lives overall, I think we get to choose to a certain extent, what the major events in our lives will be, prior to the incarnation, but how we respond to it is the major test we face. I also think we get to choose the body we are born into and what impediments we may have or may end up with, but it is still a limited multiple choice. Supposedly, the more impediments, the more intensive learning for that lifetime. Some things you just can't change, like what happens to those around you. Part of a Karmic cycle that keeps repeating can be infuriatingly impossible to break, as you yourself are unable to do anything about it, except repeat it. That is why reincarnation reminds me so much of the Hunger Games. You don't want to play but you have to. You get to choose a few weapons (tools) and who will be your allies, but the rest of it is how you respond to the challenges. Quite often, the challenges are unfair. I cannot accept that all the bad things that happen in the world to the living creatures of this planet and to GAIA are the intent of the Creator.

Wow. Thanks for sharing those experiences. You are right on, how "often times you can't plan how your body or mind will respond to a major event." I was trying to be as calm as a clam before, during, and after Hurricane Irma. I did fine with the before and during, but the loss of power and oppressive heat that came after broke my calmness just a tad.

[findingneo]

Actually, I go through a lot of phones, no matter how I feel. They do so many odd things. I put it down to getting the dodgy ones. Talking about this has made me realize it is me that is the common denominator in their odd behavior. I tend to get free phones when the manufacturer can't work out what is going on and yet there are faults that can't be fixed.

[Baby Steps]

Also there is creation of SELF

Who we are as individuals is an act of choice or creation. What degree do we choose to connect to something of a higher vibration. We are our stories, although this can be a trap, if the story includes the alchemical journey of self healing, and work towards enlightenment, then great.

But beyond our own stories, we try NOT to simply be a product of that. We try to wake up in the morning and NOT be just a summation of past stories, but rather a fresh canvas for more universal alchemy.

[findingneo]

Just saw your post LadyM. I had no idea you were in Irma. Cool as a cucumber. You handled it better than you think, I think. Glad you are ok. Sorry that is so belated, but you showed no signs when I was looking that anything was amiss. Meanwhile, your world would have been turning upside down and every which way.

[Noelle]

Just saw your post LadyM. I had no idea you were in Irma. Cool as a cucumber. You handled it better than you think, I think. Glad you are ok. Sorry that is so belated, but you showed no signs when I was looking that anything was amiss. Meanwhile, your world would have been turning upside down and every which way.

I was out of commission for about a week. I probably could have maintained my calm if it were not for my dog companions (both winter dogs). They really suffered in the heat, which stressed me somewhat with worry and trying to keep them cool. Going back to topic and your point: Sometimes it's hard to control the response, which certainly affects my personal reality-creating process.

[BMJ]

My belief based on my personal experiences.

Is that we create individually specifically in regards to our own life experience.

But because we co-create our reality we do so by consensus between souls and mother earth.

God being the greater soul, for lack of a better definition, affects our personal life in the form of guidance in our personal journey by request or by design.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

As far as I understand...

Our science tells us that "reality" is in fact a cascading probability wave. The perceived reality that we experience requires conscious observation as part of the cocktail that makes it so.

If I have that right, then we do literally create our reality. Reality is, in fact, us.

Not my area of expertise, so any of you sciencey physics folks got a comment?

[DeDukshyn]

As far as I understand...

Our science tells us that "reality" is in fact a cascading probability wave. The perceived reality that we experience requires conscious observation as part of the cocktail that makes it so.

If I have that right, then we do literally create our reality. Reality is, in fact, us.

Not my area of expertise, so any of you sciencey physics folks got a comment?

Not claiming to be an expert in the area ... but I'd say our perceptions are the most intriguing of our creations ...

[Baby Steps]

I found the following thread where ideas of virtual reality (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38987-The-Nature-of-Reality-by-Tom-Campbell&p=407160&viewfull=1#post407160)are linked to quantum physics.

It is now being recognised that the human mind can affect particles at the quantum level. The Schrodinger's cat thing. If you set up an experiment with the detection of a particle as your intention, you get a particle. If you want a wave, it is a wave. Meditators can collapse the wave into a particle. So consciousness PRODUCES that particle from a wave, that is energy- or a disturbance in the aether.

On a larger scale that has then been compared to 'rendering' in virtual reality. Our consciousness collapses a huge energetic wave form into a virtual physical reality. Like a shared or group hallucination. It's a nice idea, and gets one thinking about whether we can collapse them into a different reality, if we can imagine it.

[WhiteLove]

I found the following thread where ideas of virtual reality (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38987-The-Nature-of-Reality-by-Tom-Campbell&p=407160&viewfull=1#post407160)are linked to quantum physics.

It is now being recognised that the human mind can affect particles at the quantum level. The Schrodinger's cat thing. If you set up an experiment with the detection of a particle as your intention, you get a particle. If you want a wave, it is a wave. Meditators can collapse the wave into a particle. So consciousness PRODUCES that particle from a wave, that is energy- or a disturbance in the aether.

On a larger scale that has then been compared to 'rendering' in virtual reality. Our consciousness collapses a huge energetic wave form into a virtual physical reality. Like a shared or group hallucination. It's a nice idea, and gets one thinking about whether we can collapse them into a different reality, if we can imagine it.

Overall interesting post, thanks for sharing.

[avid]

I remember being so determined to effect a response, the concentration levels were immense, almost to heating the unaware ‘target’, with no physical contact, and my efforts to subliminarily conduct a response were successful, many times. Nothing nefarious, just experimental of course. When I asked my absent ‘subject’, they were slightly aware of a kind loving presence, and times/dates correlated. So absent healing works. Reiki works.

[Jayke]

My belief based on my personal experiences.

Is that we create individually specifically in regards to our own life experience.

But because we co-create our reality we do so by consensus between souls and mother earth.

God being the greater soul, for lack of a better definition, affects our personal life in the form of guidance in our personal journey by request or by design.

That's my favourite answer yet :sun:

I think we often get wrapped up in the power of our own consciousness to create reality, that we forget that what we perceive to be inert matter is actually pregnant with consciousness itself. Surely Gaia has a say in the unfoldment of her own creation? she'd still be creating new lifeforms regardless of whether human consciousness was wiped off the earth. And doesn't the cat in schrodingers box have its own consciousness, I doubt it would be too happy about us collapsing it into a wave just because we aren't thinking about it.

Harmonising through the layers of the greater souls to add creative juice to your creative potential matches up with my experiences. The ascent of the soul through the 8 spheres as it was known in pagan gnosticism.

Thanks for the reminder BMJ, good insight :)

[ramus]

As i stated in a earlier thread that i had to get away from the forum because of all the ugly in the world and how seeing only that was effecting my perception..... I must say this is a good homecoming for me, to read what you all have wrote, has reminded me of what we all have in common ... Alot of this world pushes us apart this thread has pull us together ... Thanks for reminding me of that fact..

[Hazelfern]

Take a deep breath and relax, I love this movie/animation. Watching it is a form of meditation, I think. It's really relaxing and thought provoking at the same time.

'The Red Turtle'

http://hulupro.net/watch/bdrLbyxN-the-red-turtle.html

[Michelle Marie]

Yes, this is an old question but I would love to read where the current membership stands in regards to this question.

Yes, and with purity of heart we create in harmony with the Universe.

We are approaching cooperation and love and unity as never before. The dross is being burned and purified at inner levels.

:heart: MM

[shaberon]

It's one of those things that has different levels of interpretations.

In the conventional sense, I would say yes, in a lot of the same ways everyone already said.

In the absolute sense, I would say no, there is a reality which is un-created, and it's not ours. We don't create, but, rather, shape the raw material--either in ways which follow the fleeting shadows of outer, transient nature, or else, to the extent we are able to stifle that somewhat automated process, perhaps we may start to catch glimmers of That which does not depend on us.

[Ernie Nemeth]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

[KiwiElf]

My belief based on my personal experiences.

Is that we create individually specifically in regards to our own life experience.

But because we co-create our reality we do so by consensus between souls and mother earth.

God being the greater soul, for lack of a better definition, affects our personal life in the form of guidance in our personal journey by request or by design.

Yes, whatever we are creating individually, will be affected by what everyone* else is also co-creating (*not necessarily just humans)

[Baby Steps]

I found the following thread where ideas of virtual reality (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38987-The-Nature-of-Reality-by-Tom-Campbell&p=407160&viewfull=1#post407160)are linked to quantum physics.

It is now being recognised that the human mind can affect particles at the quantum level. The Schrodinger's cat thing. If you set up an experiment with the detection of a particle as your intention, you get a particle. If you want a wave, it is a wave. Meditators can collapse the wave into a particle. So consciousness PRODUCES that particle from a wave, that is energy- or a disturbance in the aether.

On a larger scale that has then been compared to 'rendering' in virtual reality. Our consciousness collapses a huge energetic wave form into a virtual physical reality. Like a shared or group hallucination. It's a nice idea, and gets one thinking about whether we can collapse them into a different reality, if we can imagine it.

Overall interesting post, thanks for sharing.

Quantum science tells us that Waves and particles are a duality, and the process of OBSERVING is what determines whether it is one or the other. So does that mean that, say, in a region of the universe where no conscious life exists, it's all undetermined, and then, a ship full of explorers arrives, and suddenly galaxies and stars 'render' into particle reality? No.

More like there is a universal consciousness - observer - which can hold every last particle and wave in it's attention, continuously, and collapses everything to a physical universe from the start-ready for entities like us etc. From the point of view of Universal mind, the duality may continue.

From the point of us - the fragments of universal mind, we observe quantum processes and note that our conscious attention is a key function of the physicality of existence, this realisation is a sign post for us, assisting us to grasp the creative process of universal mind, which we are part of.

[Eric J (Viking)]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

This made me laugh Ernie...on the face of it...Yes.

Problem is our creative skills have been hi jacked...

Viking

[Foxie Loxie]

"...creative process of universal mind, which we are a part of." Loved that, Baby Steps! "Universal consciousness-observer..." What a wonderful description of what we struggle to define here on our level! Thanks! :sun:

[BMJ]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

If reality was perfect life would be very boring.

Adversity has made this life journey an interesting character building experience. I would not have reality any other way.

[Michelle Marie]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

This made me laugh Ernie...on the face of it...Yes.

Problem is our creative skills have been hi jacked...

Viking

That's the truth! Time to take our creative power back.

We need to upgrade our "vision" and stop being programmed by "tell-you- what-your-vision-is" or other things like television that are used to hijack our creative abilities.

My vision is being upgraded by keeping truth awareness in the periphery, and focusing my central vision on an image of an icredibly wonderful future with meditative concentration.

I takes practice to maintain a high vibration and a high vision.

I hope I'm improving rapidly!
MM

[pueblo]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

If reality was perfect life would be very boring.

Adversity has made this life journey an interesting character building experience. I would not have reality any other way.

There is definite truth in the idea that the friction we experience here offers an opportunity for growth at a soul level.

[Anchor]

Yes

Everything in your reality is a product of your attention and your intention.

[KiwiElf]

If we do then we are the lousiest creators in existence.

This made me laugh Ernie...on the face of it...Yes.

Problem is our creative skills have been hi jacked...

Viking

That's even been scientifically proven; :) generally, most of us are at our creative peak just before we start any schooling. After one year of "school", that creative ability (right brain thinking) has reduced to a mere fraction of what it was pre-school. ie less than 10%. By the time we hit our teens, it's around or less than 1% (A little factoid I shared with my graphic design students on a class devoted to the thought process of "Creativity") :facepalm:

As a side issue, autistic children can show remarkable abilities in these areas; (I have such a friend who is a literal genius in IT, can assemble a PC or car engine almost blindfolded but is completely bamboozled when stacking a dishwasher!) ;)

[Iloveyou]

The subconscious part of ourself has a big say in the daily creation process. Fixed ideas, all automatisms, the sum of all unprocessed experiences, where we come from, what we expect, what we think (or better are deeply convinced) to deserve or not.

And then there's the question of 'create what you love' or 'love what you create', anyway.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Every choice we make, every thought we think, and every action we take creates a unique set of circumstances no other circumstance could create. So yes, we create our own reality every moment of every day. But since we don't know our identity, don't understand the sea of existence we ride on, and don't remember ourselves before birth, we create in ignorance.

For instance, I remember the day I decided school was not for me vividly. In one day I rejected both physics and chemistry because of what we were being taught. It was wrong, it made no sense and the teachers didn't understand it either but they sure enjoyed my confusion. And when the logical arguments proved nothing I was told to shut up and stop wasting the class's time.

Right then and there I quit school and formal education. Of course it would take my brain another three years to catch up with my heart.

That choice created a set of circumstances completely unique to my situation, with such a concerted force behind it that three years later it still had enough energy left to propel me forward and out of school.

So yes, we create our reality but we are too ignorant of truth to get it right.

[DeDukshyn]

Whiskey Mystic made a post with a link to an article (I just skimmed it so far, but fascinating) that describes a specific experiment done that lends to us creating/affecting our reality.

Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100223-Practical-Applications-of-Expanded-Consciousness

[Peter UK]

I think we often get wrapped up in the power of our own consciousness to create reality, that we forget that what we perceive to be inert matter is actually pregnant with consciousness itself. Surely Gaia has a say in the unfoldment of her own creation? she'd still be creating new lifeforms regardless of whether human consciousness was wiped off the earth.

And doesn't the cat in schrodingers box have its own consciousness, I doubt it would be too happy about us collapsing it into a wave just because we aren't thinking about it.


Yes, unquestionably Gaia is an intrinsic factor here, that makes total sense, there's no way that wouldn't form the bigger picture.

In the example you've outlined regarding the cat, the wave function as a collapsed potential is simply the cat refusing to have its living presence observed as part of the cooperation of consciousness with the human observer. It would do this by withdrawing sufficient of its consciousness for no cat to be registered, in effect no living cat, knowing full well that its total consciousness registers in another probability of the wave function.

The cat is simply sensing the required outcome and being compliant with it.

So yes, the cat is an intrinsic and active participant to the observed outcome.

:)

[Sarah Rainsong]

Yes, unquestionably Gaia is an intrinsic factor here, that makes total sense, there's no way that wouldn't form the bigger picture.

In the example you've outlined regarding the cat, the wave function as a collapsed potential is simply the cat refusing to have its living presence observed as part of the cooperation of consciousness with the human observer. It would do this by withdrawing sufficient of its consciousness for no cat to be registered, in effect no living cat, knowing full well that its total consciousness registers in another probability of the wave function.

The cat is simply sensing the required outcome and being compliant with it.

So yes, the cat is an intrinsic and active participant to the observed outcome.

:)

Never thought of that. I love it!

[Chester]

...some of the latest thoughts on the matter - (http://radiomisterioso.com/audio/Deep_Prasad_11_29_19.mp3)

Deep Prasad - interviewed by Radio Mysterio

for info about Deep -

https://twitter.com/Deepneuron?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Quantum Computing Scientist and UFO researcher. I believe we are being visited by intelligent nonhuman life. CEO of ReactiveQ, VP Tech UAP Expeditions.

[bettye198]

I know we do create our own reality.

I had a rather serious issue occur on Aug 8 2008. I had a wonderful brunch at home with my family and went to my desk to begin writing. That was the last I remembered of that time frame. My spouse told me I walked outside and saw the high flames across the street above the houses as a fire loomed there and behind the house crossing fire roads. It happened that fast.

We lived in the high desert and you would think I could ascertain the enormity of it and act but what actually happened is I went into a state of shock and what appeared to be symptomatic of a stroke. I was told I kept repeating words and put a wet towel over my head and walked around in a daze. Scary huh? I was always the calm one in any emergency so this was out of character for sure.

Apparently we evacuated and at the bottom of the hill I was able to use my cell phone and talk to my sisters pretty well. We drove 7 miles to our office and stayed there not knowing if our home would be still standing. But I was calm, actually typed in a password and went into a computer, wrote to a friend the words Fire is at the Door. My friend kept that email. I had no recollection.

My BP was in hypertensive crisis yet I was calm. During the next many hours, I was given crushed cardiac supplements by my husband to try to stabilize the BP. I "saw" very tall angelic beings so tall they went thru the roof as I said and directed me to tell my spouse where to heal, my brain and body. I did this with exactness.

After 8-10 hrs the Fire Dept allowed residents back into their homes. My BP was now normal. I literally became fully awake and at peace and had a very specific knowing, that I had to leave my body to help contain the fire and keep all my neighbors homes safe but it was at a cost to my body. I believe I was bi-locating and although I had guardian support I had no recollection of any of it. The only way I created that reality was to let go and allow my spirit to do the work. What validated this whole experience was at the moment we were allowed back I woke up to such a peace.

No such experience again. We had been in 11 fires at that home in surrounding areas and the last one made our decision to move. And yes, the fire did come to the door. We lost our landscape but not our home. The fire had a mind of its own crossing barrier and working its way down a ravine and up 30 feet to just my home out of 26 homes. I have decided I don't need to know the details of that reality, just that divine intelligence had taken the wheel. :Angel:

[greybeard]

Think its more accurate to say we perceive our own reality.
Any number of people can witness the same event and have entirely different reactions--experiences--view points.
Its partly down to conditioning.
Its our own reality only because we own it.
This is what we believe we saw, heard, wintnessed -- but is that what actually happened?

Chris

[Peter UK]

I would say yes.
We and all those before us have created the mess we find ourselves in today. I would call that our shared reality.



Not only the mess but the mass.

:)

[aoibhghaire]

I’ve been using a scientific co creative process for the past 25 years. It has worked successfully for all the projects I’ve set up during this period. The process may be challenging for those with there heads in the way; i.e. ego. It just won’t work. Because It is not a true partnership with nature intelligence.

Nature knows nothing else but balance. Human dynamics are different. The integral relationship between the two parties works by the aspects I have outlined.
It as to be a partnership with nature intelligence in the true sense. Any project can be set up with a Definition, Direction and Purpose (DDP).
Once you have your DDP set up then the process works through a series of organised items. The project then requires you to open up to a conference call with whatever teams as required to support different aspects of the DDP project. The process requires a crystal clear intention for this to work successfully. You can then use the conference call anytime where it is needed in order to download information that is already there in the universe for your projects. There are teams set up by nature to progress your project to different levels.

It is a remarkable process which I belief the very ancients were using where they were connected to nature in the true sense.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I can't even stick to a budget...very much envious.

[Peter UK]

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I call the "foreground" layer. The foreground is everything that you directly experience. This is your personal reality, and you are 100% responsible for creating it.
Summing It All Up
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You are creating your reality with your thoughts, beliefs, desires, and more.

I don't think that's all there is to it.
There is some apparent random part which is neither "created" by the collective nor invited by myself - be it conscious or unconscious:

How about the sudden unexplainable personal adversities, f.x. like some physical problem? I don't remember having invited those.

That's a perfectly understandable reaction of course but mainly deals with the conscious aspect which we feel we can account for with some justification. The unconscious though by it's very nature would have energies associated with it including beliefs which may not be understood well or even remain completely hidden and unrecognised acting as catalysts. These plus other elments like associated karmic factors would play their part in bringing about events in the life.