NWO and J.R.R Tolkien's Lost Recording

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The Lord of the Rings has been my favourite all time book ever since I read it for the first time around 1984. And today J.R.R. Tolkien is still the author I admire the most - I've read all his books many times over. He was a literary genius in my opinion and in so many others - he was also a most fascinating individual.

This is not a new story, but I think it's worth mentioning here. After all I didn't find another thread for it. An audio recording of J.R.R. Tolkien speaking at a dinner in Rotterdam in 1958 was uncovered (back in the 90s), but only in recent years was it brought to public attention. After being cleaned up and analysed, it provides potentially new insight into The Lord of the Rings, and what Tolkien may have been alluding to in an allegorical way. In the recording he makes a toast, and with 'Middle-Earth' flavours makes mention of this messed up world of ours, and the dark hand that is controlling it...


...I look East and West, I look North and South, and I do not see a Sauron; but I see very many descendants of Saruman! And I think we Hobbits now have no magic weapons against them. And yet, dear gentle-hobbits, my I conclude by giving you this toast: To the Hobbits! And may they outlast all the wizards!

Alex Jones picked up this story at the time and ran with this video. A must-watch for any Tolkien fan:

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It's very true, Tolkien distanced himself from the widely held suspicion that The Lord of The Rings was an allegory for the present state of the world (in the 1940/50s). In fact he detested allegory as a story device. Instead, he claimed that LOTR was purely thematic, topical, and the application of what it meant, if anything, lay solely in the province of the reader.

But one cannot deny there are clear correlations between the real world power-structures and all their dark machinations, and Tolkien's great tale of Good versus Evil, the Ring of Power, and the stranglehold of Sauron over a world in decline.

I personally don't necessarily believe that LOTR was consciously allegorical, but I have to consider the possibility that Tolkien's disclaimer may have been an attempt to protect himself. Had he not clearly denied allegory, it may have harmed his position (as well as book sales). He was an Oxford don after all. But his Published Letters (https://www.amazon.com/Letters-J-R-R-Tolkien-J-R/dp/0618056998/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1508526550&sr=1-1&keywords=letters+of+jrr+tolkien) shed a slightly different light on what he might really have thought, and a good number of these letters suggest he knew very well there was something wrong with the world. Here we find in a Letter to Amy Ronald in 1969 this quote:


...the spirit of wickedness in high places is now so powerful and so many-headed in its incarnations that there seems nothing more to do than personally refuse to worship any of the hydras' heads.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/05/24/89518-audio-of-lost-tolkien-speech-promises-new-insights-into-the-lord-of-the-rings/

[sunwings]

I do remember reading about how Tolkien was given access to the basement of the British Library and there he was able to read all sorts of mythical literature. He later commented to CS Lewis that some of it was true. Looking around at the threads on PA we see so many of these stories. I cannot find a link however I can recommend people look through some of the letters sent between the pair.

36326

http://www.clickhole.com/article/these-letters-between-cs-lewis-and-jrr-tolkien-she-4279

[CurEus]

How very intersting! Thanks!

I cannot for the life of me find the enhanced audio version or even the original version anywhere though.

[Noelle]

Though I can't be certain, I want to believe that there is a true zeitgeist -- our world spirit or collective unconscious --that certain writers, musicians, artists, etc. tap into. If it is true, then it could be Tolkien was unconsciously communicating to us something from our collective unconscious.

[Daozen]

I think Tolkien denied the allegorical nature of LOTR in order to protect himself. Thorin Oakenshield is supposedly a representation of the Rothschild bloodline. See this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76746-The-Hobbit-The-Battle-of-the-Five-Armies-Official-Main-Trailer-Released-Today

It's hard to believe that he would stumble on those anagrams coincidentally. A lot of insiders have to be careful about what they say publically, especially back in the 1900s.

Tolkien must've been an amazing seer. I know each section went through several redrafts, so he must've peered through the veil and seen the story come into focus piece by piece, over a period spanning at least 5 years.

[danegeroussacredgeometry]

I do remember reading about how Tolkien was given access to the basement of the British Library and there he was able to read all sorts of mythical literature. He later commented to CS Lewis that some of it was true. Looking around at the threads on PA we see so many of these stories. I cannot find a link however I can recommend people look through some of the letters sent between the pair.

36326

http://www.clickhole.com/article/these-letters-between-cs-lewis-and-jrr-tolkien-she-4279

Sunwings: why is the elvish language in the article in Spanish?

[sunwings]

I do remember reading about how Tolkien was given access to the basement of the British Library and there he was able to read all sorts of mythical literature. He later commented to CS Lewis that some of it was true. Looking around at the threads on PA we see so many of these stories. I cannot find a link however I can recommend people look through some of the letters sent between the pair.

36326

http://www.clickhole.com/article/these-letters-between-cs-lewis-and-jrr-tolkien-she-4279

Sunwings: why is the elvish language in the article in Spanish?

It would help I guess if you read all the letters to put it into context. It is just his wiry sense of humour. Which i personally find very funny.

These letters were part of a larger group called The Inklings who were literary enthusiasts who praised the value of narrative in fiction and encouraged the writing of fantasy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inklings

[BMJ]

The Lord of the Rings | Real World Parallels

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Stefan Molyneux and Dr. Duke Pesta break down the real world parallels from The Lord of the Rings series and confront some uncomfortable truths.

[Foxie Loxie]

Amazing post, BMJ! :highfive: Thank you SO MUCH! :sun:

[Inversion]

I was going to post this in the 33rd Olympic Games - Paris (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123365-33rd-Olympic-Games-Paris&p=1626232&viewfull=1#post1626232) thread, but it didn't seem to fit. The Olympic rings remind me of JRR Tolkien's rings of power. His mother's name was Mabel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabel_Suffield_Tolkien#:~:text=Mabel%20Tolkien%20(n%C3%A9e%20Suffield%2C%201870,life%2C%20faith%2C%2 0and%20writing.). King Charles' portait looks like there's an Anakh (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118756-Elena-Danaan---&p=1606283&viewfull=1#post1606283) being imbued in it. The Tolkien (https://johntolkien.wordpress.com/the-tolkien-family/#jp-carousel-86) family tree.

Awakening in the Dream (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94325-The-Ascension-Mysteries--by-David-Wilcock-&p=1490785&viewfull=1#post1490785)

P270-271. A writer for Star Trek: The Next Generation has a brain implant that Gray type aliens put there to seed stories through his dreams.

The rings (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112361-The-Global-Financial-System-Explained-Kim-Goguen-LifeForce-the-Assemblies&p=1625561#post1625561) and national flags.


The Rings of Power were rings created by the Elves of Eregion, nineteen Great Rings with knowledge obtained from Sauron, and several of them with Sauron aiding the creation. Sauron forged the twentieth Great Ring, called the One Ring or the Ruling Ring, secretly in the fires of Mount Doom.

wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System#:~:text=Later%2C%20the%20Bell%20System%20and,international%20lines%20including%20submari ne%20cables)

Later, the Bell System and its moniker "Ma Bell" became a term that referred generally to all AT&T companies, of which there were five major divisions: AT&T Long Lines, providing long lines to interconnect local exchanges and long-distance calling services, and international lines including submarine cables.

Anu is in the name Ainur and Ea could refer to Enki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki). Arada is one letter off of Ada/Pi (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123248-Following-the-Pi-Path).

The supreme deity of Tolkien's universe is Eru Ilúvatar. Ilúvatar created spirits named the Ainur from his thoughts, and some were considered brothers or sisters. Ilúvatar made divine music with them. Melkor, then the most powerful of the Ainur, broke the harmony of the music, until Ilúvatar began first a second theme, and then a third theme, which the Ainur could not comprehend since they were not the source of it. The essence of their song symbolized the history of the whole universe and the Children of Ilúvatar that were to dwell in it – Men and Elves.[T 1]

Then Ilúvatar created Eä, which means "to be," the universe itself, and formed within it Arda, the Earth, "globed within the void": the world together with the three airs is set apart from Avakúma, the "void" without. The first 15 of the Ainur that descended to Arda, and the most powerful ones, were called Valar; the lesser Ainur were called Maiar.[T 1]

link (https://www.cultureslate.com/explained/why-queen-elizabeth-ii-named-jrr-tolkien-commander-of-the-order-of-the-british-empire)

Queen Elizabeth grew up with Tolkien’s work. She was ten when The Hobbit was published in 1937, and The Lord of the Rings was published two years into her reign in 1954. Even when it was published, Tolkien’s work was impactful, and Queen Elizabeth decided to bestow an honor on Tolkien that he was “deeply moved” by. 50 years ago, in the New Year Honors on January 1, 1972, Queen Elizabeth appointed J.R.R Tolkien Commander of the Order of the British Empire “for services to English Literature.” Tolkien received the insignia at Buckingham Palace on March 28, 1972.