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SDO
1st November 2017, 15:10
I was asked whether SDO measures the total output of the Sun and whether an increase in that output could be causing the temperature of the Earth to increase?
SDO was built to study how the magnetic fields of the Sun are created and destroyed. AIA and EVE look at wavelengths of light that tell us a lot about those magnetic fields but are absorbed by our atmosphere and can’t be measured at the surface. HMI is designed to measure the velocity and magnetic field at the surface, not the total output of the Sun.
Other satellites in NASA’s fleet do measure the total output of the Sun, which we call the Total Solar Irradiance or TSI. One instrument on SoHO called VIRGO has measured TSI since 1996. Another instrument is TIM on NASA’s SORCE that is operated by the same group that built EVE. SORCE was very carefully calibrated and used to establish the baseline of TSI. VIRGO and other earlier satellites then provide the data since 1978.
Combining these data into a single measurement has been a challenge, but the people at LASP and the Physikalisch-Meteorologisches Observatorium Davos (PMOD) in Switzerland have risen to the task. The result is this figure. It shows the measured value of TSI from many satellites, spliced together into a single data set.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-74kvXCc2GsY/Wfnfy3iE6RI/AAAAAAAABGM/1orYdDtnIUEZlV9Mk4ESG9ObTCsPHG58ACLcBGAs/s400/sunspot_tsi_web.png (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-74kvXCc2GsY/Wfnfy3iE6RI/AAAAAAAABGM/1orYdDtnIUEZlV9Mk4ESG9ObTCsPHG58ACLcBGAs/s1600/sunspot_tsi_web.png)

In the top plot, we drew the daily average of measured points in red (so there are a lot of points, 14187 to be precise). On the left is a red vertical bar showing a 0.3% change in TSI. The black curve is the average of TSI over each year. The dashed horizontal line shows the minimum value of year-averaged TSI data. The vertical black bar shows the 0.09% variation we see in that average. The bottom plot shows the annual sunspot number from the SIDC in Belgium in blue.
What do we learn from these plots? First, TSI does change! That’s why we stopped calling it the solar constant. Second, as the sunspot number increases, so does TSI. But the converse is also true. As the sunspot number decreases so does TSI. We have watched this happen for four sunspot cycles. This waxing and waning of TSI with sunspot number is understood as a combination of dark sunspots reducing TSI below the dashed line and long-lived magnetic features increasing TSI. SORCE has even observed flares in TSI.
Third, the horizontal dashed line is not an average, it is drawn at the lowest value in the year-averaged TSI data (that happened in 2009). When there are no sunspots the Sun’s brightness should be that of the hot, glowing object we always imagined it to be. We would expect TSI to be the same at every solar minimum. There is much discussion over whether the value of TSI at solar minimum is getting smaller with time, but it is not getting larger.
These data show us that the Sun is not getting brighter with time. The brightness does follow the sunspot cycle, but the level of solar activity has been decreasing the last 35 years. The value at minimum may be decreasing as well, although that is far more difficult to prove. Perhaps the upcoming solar minimum in 2020 will help answer that question.
To answer the question: No, we do not measure an increase in the output of the Sun that would cause the Earth to warm.
More information about the VIRGO instrument and how the composite (“spliced”) data is generated from the many measurements is at the PMOD website (http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant). The data I used was downloaded from ftp://ftp.pmodwrc.ch/pub/data/irradiance/composite/DataPlots/composite_42_65_1709.dat.
I highly recommend looking at the SORCE website for their data, which is how the absolute value of the composite was determined http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/sorce/.
The sunspot data is from http://sidc.oma.be/silso/datafiles. You can download the sunspot number is several formats for your analysis.
Note: Both data sets mark days where a measurement was not made with a negative number. These points were ignored when doing the averages.

More... (http://sdoisgo.blogspot.com/2017/11/is-sun-getting-brighter.html)

ghostrider
1st November 2017, 15:58
The plejaren say our sun is a dying star ...1.5 -2 billion years she will be done ... They say already it drifts in a weaker dynamic phase...

ghostrider
1st November 2017, 16:07
Read contact report 515th contact report , Ptaah explains in detail about our sun ... You can visit www.theyfly.com and enter ptaah speaking about our sun in the search box, and it will link to several reports, the 515th should be there as the first or second option...

ghostrider
1st November 2017, 17:08
 

Sunspot Activity: Potentially catastrophic for Earth electronics

Extract from the 515th Official Contact Conversation of March 7th
2011 (Published in FIGU Special Bulletin N0. 61, May 2011)

Billy ... But that which interests me now relates to our sun, its eruptions, the dark spots on the surface of the Sun, the magnetic field, the plasma vortex and energy mass, and the size in proportion to all planets and moons, and so forth, and everything of significance all around. I am especially interested in regard to the next year in which the Sun's 11 year cycle of activity again occurs which, under certain circumstances, can lead to massive electromagnetic disturbances on the Earth, and in its outer realm of influence. If you can just say something general in a language understandable for us lay persons, about, for example, what occurred in recent years, what is happening presently and what can result in the coming time?

Ptaah To be said straight away is that the terrestrial scientists err to a large degree in regard to the Sun's lifespan, because it is a dying star and its real remaining lifetime accordingly amounts to only 1,500,000,000 to 2,500,000,000 years. To say, further to that, is that the star has drifted for years in a weak dynamic phase, and only becomes more active now and again, for example, in March 2010. The dynamic of the Sun is based on cycles of approximately eleven years which, in turn, are connected with the magnetic fields which, however, also impede the emergence of the energy which surges from the interior of the sun. But an even greater number of other factors exists through which all processes are determined. Dark matter, which for the terrestrial scientists is still very mysterious, also thereby plays a certain role, and indeed in particular in regard to the transport of the Sun's hot energy, because without the influence of the dark matter this would not be possible.

The around 6,000 degree Celsius hot surface of the Sun is heated up to 1,000,000 degrees Celsius by the thermal energy from the interior of the star. This, while the dark sun spots however only have a temperature of around 4,000 degrees Celsius and extend up to 1,700 kilometres deep into the sun's interior by means of their tunnel-like, t hat is to say, funnel-like form. At these depths it is many millions of degrees Celsius in the star. As a result of these temperatures the inner material of the sun transforms into plasma - into electrically charged gas - whereby these masses shoot out all around the maw as flaming plasma at a speed of 100,000 kilometers an hour. If dark sun spots emerge in groups, then enormous sun-storms emerge from them which release energies which are only comparable with the energy of thouusands of millions of conventional atomic bombs.

The Sun lives and hurls its monstrous energies out into its area of the system, even if it is a dying star which presently drifts in a phase of lesser activity. If the new, high phase of activity comes, which is to be expected immediately and in the next year, then it can be monstrously big and can cause very much damage in regard to nature and the human electronic technological advances. Basically, violent plasma eruptions should have already been occurring for a long time, yet since the activity has, so to speak, dropped to a minimum, greater outbreaks have not occurred up to this point, but, with the new activity which is ahead, they can now be very enormous. The fact is that, currently, for that reason, in the Sun's interior, enormous changes are taking place, which also show in the form of external effects.

For example, on the surface of the Sun, an extensive current of material has emerged which is driven by the residue of the magnetic field (which has arisen from the weakened, dark sunspots) in the direction of the poles of the Sun, to then sink again there up to 250,000 kilometers deep into the Sun's interior, to then move back again in the direction of the equator. At the mentioned depth of the Sun's interior, the magnetic fields again lengthen and also become strong again, which means that they are newly charged with energy, after which they become newly active asund break out yet again on the surface and form new, dark sunspots. From that it also follows that these material currents, together with the different, fast rotation of the surface of the sun, assures that a reversal of the magnetic fields of the Sun results, which manifests every eleven years.

Normally the current of material moves very slowly towards the poles, and indeed at a speed of 2.7 to 3.7 kilometers per hour, yet for about seven years this speed has amounted to about 50 kilometers per hour. The result of this fast current is that the magnetic fields are prevented from emerging on the Sun's equator. This is also the reason why the last three years on Earth had enormously cold Winters. The dark sunspots which are surrounded by giant, funnel-shaped magnetic field line loops - which transport hot gas and plasma - show the actual magnetic 1wesen of the Sun. If particularly big energy outbreaks occur, then the magnetic field lines and the plasma free themselves from the Sun and shoot away from it. The plasma loops thereby reach, as magnetic energy, up to 100,000 kilometers in length and breadth if they break forth from the Sun, whereby giant dark zones then also come about on the Sun's surface. If more dark sunspots come about, then that results from the fact that magnetic field lines are increasingly breaking through the Sun's surface.

Therefore the stronger the magnetic field, the more dark sunspots manifest. If, on the other hand, it is weaker, fewer dark spots occur. The Sun's magnetic field, called the heliospheric current sheet, has - in its rotating, spiral radiation form - an effect on the entire SOL system, and, in fact, up to the outermost realms of the Kuiper belt, and still some distance beyond. From these sunspots, magnetic field lines escape from the Sun's interior, whereby the Sun's ejected energy, which strikes the Earth, is monstrously high. On average, the Earth is struck every single second by an energy mass such as could be produced by approximately 155 – 160 million atomic power plants. The energy mass is therefore so enormous that 0.01 percent of it would already be sufficient to meet the energy requirements of the entire terrestrial humanity of 8 billion Earth inhabitants. And what there is to say concerning the size in proportion to the planets and moons, and so forth, in the SOL system, is that they come to only exactly 0.2 percent of the central heavenly body, which contains 99.8 percent of the entire material content in the SOL system.

As said, the Sun is a dying star, which will still exist for between 1,500,000,000 and 2,500,000,000 years, with a presently active age of around 5,000,000,000 years. However its 2ur-ur origin lies very much further back and is based on ur-energies, the age of which, on one hand, the terrestrial scientists cannot calculate, and which appears fantastic to them, because it leads back to previous forms of the whole universe about which they lack knowledge and understanding regarding its existence. They do not understand, and are also not able to fathom, that the visible material universe is only the fourth belt of the universe, which consists of seven belts altogether, whereby only the fourth belt has galaxies, nebulae, suns, planets and moons, and so forth, while the inner three and outer three immaterial energy belts cannot be seen and, therefore, the inner and external energy belts, between which the material belt - that is to say, the material universe - is located, and from which the so-called background radiation emerges, cannot be seen. Also, the terrestrial scientists do not know that the material belt renews itself every 49,000,000,000 years which, last time, was around 17,000,000,000 years ago, and that the current material universe is already the third form of the constant renewal and that the entire seven belted universe is already around 46,000,000,000,000 years old.

But back to the Sun: the Sun means life for all life-forms in the SOL system, and those lifeforms deep in the interior of the Earth, which live in complete darkness and never see a ray of sun, also profit from the Sun's energy. And not only do the planets themselves rotate but the same thing happens with the Sun, which, with its own rhythm, rotates on its own axis once every four weeks. However, it thereby has different rotation times and rotation speeds; at the equator, near the poles and in the middle latitudes; whereby that alone guarantees that it can sling the energies - which are generated in its innermost region - as far as the outermost edge of its system. Only as a result of the arising friction, between the different fast parts of the points of rotation which have different speeds, do constantly whirling electromagnetic field lines form. What thereby happens is that the more extensive the whirling, the greater the activity of the Sun. Presently the Sun is passing into a weak dynamic. Consequently there is only a little activity, which is also expressed in few dark sunspots. They are not insignificant in their mass because they in fact often have a size into which the Earth would fit five or six times.

Yet what there also is to say in regard to the size is that the Sun collapses into itself and therefore shrinks, and has indeed done so already for several hundred years. These are the first manifestations of decay to do with the dying of the star, which will only exist for approximately another 1,500,000,000 to 2,500,000,000 years as a giver or life for the SOL system. But also to say is that, with very high activity, the heavenly body can again expand some distance, or, swell somewhat, which however only occurs within a cyclical range after which the reduction, or, the shrinking, drops back again to the original starting-point form. Now, what occurs with the upheaval of the cycle this time is still inconclusive, yet it can be said that it can come to an inferno, if ur-worldly magnetic bows break through and all the Earth human being's electronic technological advances on Earth and in the Earth's orbit are thereby paralysed.

The current electronic technology and thereby also the entirety of the electronics on the Earth is extremely sensitive in regard to storms on the Sun and other cosmic radiation; consequently everything can collapse if strong sun-storm eruptions send their energies to Earth and induce storms of electrons on Earth. These induce electric currents as a result of which enormous numbers of electrical - and therefore, also electromagnetic - apparatuses and devices of all kinds can be made inoperable just as can atomic and electric power plants as well as other plants, machines and vehicles, and so forth, which are in any way associated with electrical energy. If something happens in this form then the whole thing is absolutely not harmless, because if such harmful consequences arise, then not only do large parts of the economy and medical care, as well as drinking water supply, collapse, but also the production and necessary transport of food stuffs, as well as general security measures against plundering. Not to mention that, in regard to all Earth human advances, a setback in development could result and damage could generally come about in all areas, which would take decades to rectify again.

The Earth human beings and their governments would also come to the brink of financial ruin, which means that they would become incapable of payment concerning being able to generally address and rectify the damage which had arisen. Criminality and wrongdoing would also climb, along with many other evils, which would be incalculable. This would be the case if a catastrophe in fact arose in the form in which it could with an over-activity of the Sun. But that happening is only a possibility and does not correspond to a prediction, because it still is not certain what will occur when the activity wakes the Sun from its slumber.

Billy Thank you. You have said and explained more than I actually expected. 
But it is certainly good that it has all been said.

Translated by: Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine, 26.5.2011, Tasmania, Australias

 

enigma3
1st November 2017, 18:04
One of the three major extra-planetary forces that is increasing temps on the planet is the sun heating up. The PTB will not tell us much about that, but mr. sun is heating up. So much so that a moon of Saturn that has ice on it now has some lakes where the ice has melted. I cannot remember where I read that, but I did. They don't know why or how long the heating will last. I wonder if it has something to do with the recent NASA reveal that the 10th planet is now entering the solar system.
So we have three major factors contributing to global warming that we have no control over. Mr. sun heating up, the magnetic pole shift continuing to weaken earth's magnetic fields, and 2 massive methane releases into the atmosphere. Human share of global warming - not much. Tis but another scam from the rich bastards to take more of our money.
Combine those factors with John Major Jenkins theory about the galactic alignment of the solar system and a story of the solar system now beginning to pass through old galactic debris and we have a near perfect scenario for world cataclysm. It is a rather exciting time to be alive. All is supposed to come to a head by 2030. Or so I have read.

TargeT
1st November 2017, 18:25
One of the three major extra-planetary forces that is increasing temps on the planet is the sun heating up. The PTB will not tell us much about that, but mr. sun is heating up. So much so that a moon of Saturn that has ice on it now has some lakes where the ice has melted. I cannot remember where I read that, but I did. They don't know why or how long the heating will last. I wonder if it has something to do with the recent NASA reveal that the 10th planet is now entering the solar system.

I'm pretty sure the exact opposite is happening (and we know this due to the solar minimum, and the OP in this thread.. .the sun is putting out less energy and getting "cooler" as it goes further into this inactive phase).

Look at this graph:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-74kvXCc2GsY/Wfnfy3iE6RI/AAAAAAAABGM/1orYdDtnIUEZlV9Mk4ESG9ObTCsPHG58ACLcBGAs/s1600/sunspot_tsi_web.png

There's a clear cooling trend that starts in the 1990's or so.

So I completely agree with you if you said everything you said.. but you replaced "heating up " with "cooling down" because THAT is the one thing NO ONE is talking about (in fact, the propaganda is so strong most people still think in "global warming" terms).

Satori
1st November 2017, 19:04
I don't know if the sun is "heating up" or "cooling down." But I do know what I feel when I step out into the sun here in New Mexico. I feel what I will call an intense increase in radiation relative to what I used to feel a few short years ago.

One may say that what I'm describing means that I am suggesting that the sun is heating up. But that is not what I'm getting at and I'm not a physicist or any such thing to try to explain it beyond the description that even if its 32 degrees F outside, on a clear day (or on a cloudy day when the sun peeks through) it feels like the sun is radiating down something that makes it seem or feel hotter on the skin, even though the thermostat is lower than what it feels like the temperature actually is on the skin.

I've also noticed that in New Mexico in the past year or so when they provide the temperature they have added a heading that says "Feels Like." So, for instance, the temperature may say 72, but under the heading "Feels Like" it could be 75. Or, sometimes, it is a degree or two less than what they say the temperature is. I do not recall any such heading until relatively recently.

What's up with that?

Bill Ryan
1st November 2017, 19:18
Read contact report 515th contact report , Ptaah explains in detail about our sun ... You can visit www.theyfly.com and enter ptaah speaking about our sun in the search box, and it will link to several reports, the 515th should be there as the first or second option...

Mod note from Bill:

For goodness sakes, please, knock it off... this is really not helpful (and almost never is).

This is mindless proselytizing. You're a Billy Meier fundamentalist. Some of his information is interesting, and can be discussed (there are several threads for that), but we don't need this material injected everywhere you think you see a connection and an opportunity.

:focus:

Flash
1st November 2017, 19:21
I agree with you, a hot sun feels like crispier, more burn, on the skin than years ago -and i am in Montreal, much morth than you. However, i do no attribute it to the sun cool or hot phases, but rather to the depletion of our ozone layer. We have had this for years here with the collateral skin cancer increase



One of the three major extra-planetary forces that is increasing temps on the planet is the sun heating up. The PTB will not tell us much about that, but mr. sun is heating up. So much so that a moon of Saturn that has ice on it now has some lakes where the ice has melted. I cannot remember where I read that, but I did. They don't know why or how long the heating will last. I wonder if it has something to do with the recent NASA reveal that the 10th planet is now entering the solar system.

I'm pretty sure the exact opposite is happening (and we know this due to the solar minimum, and the OP in this thread.. .the sun is putting out less energy and getting "cooler" as it goes further into this inactive phase).

Look at this graph:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-74kvXCc2GsY/Wfnfy3iE6RI/AAAAAAAABGM/1orYdDtnIUEZlV9Mk4ESG9ObTCsPHG58ACLcBGAs/s1600/sunspot_tsi_web.png

There's a clear cooling trend that starts in the 1990's or so.

So I completely agree with you if you said everything you said.. but you replaced "heating up " with "cooling down" because THAT is the one thing NO ONE is talking about (in fact, the propaganda is so strong most people still think in "global warming" terms).

Wind
1st November 2017, 20:53
Now that's clear thinking, Flash!

Our Sun is going to sleep and it's about the get much, much cooler... The truth is complete opposite from any manmade global warming scam, the "shields" of Earth are fading and letting through more cosmic rays. Cosmic rays create more cloud covers = rain and thunder storms, let alone it's still somewhat unknown how much cosmic rays in high doses will affect humans or human DNA. It could be said that the warming period in the 20th century was an exception in the trend. Now another solar (Maunder) minimum is coming again and humans aren't prepared for it.

TargeT
1st November 2017, 20:57
The black plague and inquisition happened during solar minimums.... hopefully that was just a coincidence though.

enigma3
1st November 2017, 21:14
We can measure the temperature on all planets and their respective moons in the solar system. The sun IS heating up.

http://www.space.news/2015-10-06-entire-solar-system-is-heating-up-scientists-blame-solar-warming.html

We need to heed these bits of truth from NASA. They don't leak truth too often.

enigma3
1st November 2017, 21:28
Also, scientists have said to expect more gamma radiation to penetrate earth's protective geomagnetic layer as the magnetic pole shift increases in intensity. Expect more skin cancer. That may be the cause of fiddling with temps in Arizona. Gamma radiation makes it feel warmer.

We are not even close yet to the end of the magnetic pole shift. Expect the gamma radiation problem to get worse.

My high octane speculation here (and it's not too high octane) is that the perceived threat of increased gamma radiation from earth changes beyond anyone's control is the central reason for 140+ Deep Underground Military Bases in the US alone. Why else build them if not to attempt to get out of harm's way from gamma radiation?

Mark (Star Mariner)
1st November 2017, 21:43
Now that's clear thinking, Flash!

Our Sun is going to sleep and it's about the get much, much cooler... The truth is complete opposite from any manmade global warming scam, the "shields" of Earth are fading and letting through more cosmic rays. Cosmic rays create more cloud covers = rain and thunder storms, let alone it's still somewhat unknown how much cosmic rays in high doses will affect humans or human DNA. It could be said that the warming period in the 20th century was an exception in the trend. Now another solar (Maunder) minimum is coming again and humans aren't prepared for it.

I am not a 'global warming' proponent, and yes I see what you're saying Wind, but I don't know what to think. Is there a global cooling trend? It may be so, taken as a mean global average perhaps, but locally I do in fact see the opposite. Summers are generally warmer of late. It's more humid in the UK than it ever used to be. And the long freezes and deep-snows of my youth are a bygone memory. So, I just don't know...

Wind
1st November 2017, 22:36
Yes, there is a very clear trend of the Earth cooling... But also there are extereme weather events all over the world so it makes people confused naturally.

I can only tell what I've experienced here. Summers have gotten shorter, colder and more wet. Overall years have become more cloudy, rainy and cold. Normal seasons seem to be a thing of the past.

Just take a look at this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MyanmarLiving/videos

It's a great source of information, so is https://www.iceagenow.info/

neutronstar
2nd November 2017, 01:10
The black plague and inquisition happened during solar minimums.... hopefully that was just a coincidence though.

Actually the black plague happened at the beginning of the little ice age. The Justinian plague also happened at an extreme cooling period at around 500 AD which lasted until around 900 AD. It makes sense that plague would appear then. Extreme cooling destroys crops in turn causes famine, which weakens the immune system, which causes plague. Solar minimums may have been at the same time but the cooling that happened was the result of something greater than just a solar minimum and lasted far longer.

But on topic, I always remembered the sun as yellow, it now appears white. Maybe that could be just because they always depicted the sun as yellow so that is how I remembered it. I don't really know.

TomKat
2nd November 2017, 01:38
The black plague and inquisition happened during solar minimums.... hopefully that was just a coincidence though.

Actually the black plague happened at the beginning of the little ice age. The Justinian plague also happened at an extreme cooling period at around 500 AD which lasted until around 900 AD. It makes sense that plague would appear then. Extreme cooling destroys crops in turn causes famine, which weakens the immune system, which causes plague. Solar minimums may have been at the same time but the cooling that happened was the result of something greater than just a solar minimum and lasted far longer.

But on topic, I always remembered the sun as yellow, it now appears white. Maybe that could be just because they always depicted the sun as yellow so that is how I remembered it. I don't really know.

I remember in kindergarten in the 50s asking the teacher how to depict the sun because there was not a white crayon. She said use yellow.

bobme
2nd November 2017, 02:12
Remember, stuff is being sprayed in the sky above us. How does that effect the way we feel, or see the sun?

neutronstar
2nd November 2017, 02:13
Yes, there is a very clear trend of the Earth cooling... But also there are extereme weather events all over the world so it makes people confused naturally.

I can only tell what I've experienced here. Summers have gotten shorter, colder and more wet. Overall years have become more cloudy, rainy and cold. Normal seasons seem to be a thing of the past.

Just take a look at this channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MyanmarLiving/videos

It's a great source of information, so is https://www.iceagenow.info/

For me in the midwest, if anything winters are warmer with less snow, but it is not that great of a change. When the weather changes we will know. The earth has had major climate changes in the past and I am not talking about a few degrees. It is more like 10, 20, 30 degree swings in global temp. Right now it is still pretty mild weather.

Bubu
2nd November 2017, 04:15
I'd like to mention that the heat receive by earth from sun is also proportional to the atmospheric covers. such that it is possible that the earth is warming while the sun is cooling. Yes i also felt that stinging heat rays recently like I've never felt before. So more likely the atmospheric cover has diminish. For one the universe is alive and is adapting all the time. so it could be that the cooling of sun also cause a thinning of atmospheric cover so that earth can survive. just some thoughts.

CurEus
2nd November 2017, 04:16
I tend to agree with Flash. I am in Toronto and the sun BURNS as it touches the skin! I tan exceedingly well and over the last few years I actually burn......which never happened before.

I have posited in the past that geoengineering or chemtrails may not be ENTIRELY nefarious. I have often wondered if our excessive nuclear testing may have caused a serious imbalance of Earth's "solar shields" and necessitated some for of man-made shielding. ( Annunaki and Gold particles to shield their home world) Although I am jaded enough to expect no "opportunity goes to waste" and the incidental poisoning of the planet would likely serve someone's agenda.

My understanding is that climate change on other planets like our earth are potentially caused by the Sun reacting to an incoming celestial object(s) as we note that Ice caps/sheet are melting from the bottom up not from the top down which would be expected with "regular climate change pressures". Something about particles "exciting" magma.

We live in interesting times......

ghostrider
2nd November 2017, 05:10
Just trying to help ...

Hazelfern
2nd November 2017, 06:14
Thanks to all that have posted on this thread. Yes, the sun IS brighter and temps hotter.
The millennials are even rolling around and speaking of the burn.
I used to think an incoming celestial body was the prob. I've put that aside to the vaporizing
of our Earth's protective layer.

Hazelfern
2nd November 2017, 06:26
Read contact report 515th contact report , Ptaah explains in detail about our sun ... You can visit www.theyfly.com and enter ptaah speaking about our sun in the search box, and it will link to several reports, the 515th should be there as the first or second option...

Mod note from Bill:

For goodness sakes, please, knock it off... this is really not helpful (and almost never is).

This is mindless proselytizing. You're a Billy Meier fundamentalist. Some of his information is interesting, and can be discussed (there are several threads for that), but we don't need this material injected everywhere you think you see a connection and an opportunity.

:focus:

And yet, I would like to hear from him when he feels the need.

Ewan
2nd November 2017, 10:15
Read contact report 515th contact report , Ptaah explains in detail about our sun ... You can visit www.theyfly.com and enter ptaah speaking about our sun in the search box, and it will link to several reports, the 515th should be there as the first or second option...

Mod note from Bill:

For goodness sakes, please, knock it off... this is really not helpful (and almost never is).

This is mindless proselytizing. You're a Billy Meier fundamentalist. Some of his information is interesting, and can be discussed (there are several threads for that), but we don't need this material injected everywhere you think you see a connection and an opportunity.

:focus:

And yet, I would like to hear from him when he feels the need.

With all due respect you could just go directly to source and read all that they ever reputedly said.

As for me, I grow weary of hearing what the Plejaren's may or may not have said.

On topic.

I've notice the last two summers an increase in burning sensation from the sun, but as you can feel this through cotton clothing I don't ascribe it to heat, rather radiation.
That increase could be more wavelengths or less ozone or a combination.

The Moss Trooper
2nd November 2017, 13:51
....... Or, alternatively, you could skip to the relevant report of Billy's thanks to Ghostrider's link. I can't see him posting links to reports' of Billy Meier's being a problem, and I think that was a bit harsh of you Bill, to call him out like that. You may have had the good grace and sent him/her a PM, and call him/her a 'fundamentalist' in privacy, man-o-mano. After-all, if Billy has a report that links directly to whatever the subject of the OP is, then it has relevance. And, let's not forget the 10 x more people reading this site than are signed-up to it, a lot of them may find information that was previously unknown to them, thank's to Ghostrider's links.

StandingWave
2nd November 2017, 14:02
It seems Earth orbits a variable star:


The idea that the Sun is behaving unusually is based on an assumption about what is normal for stars like the Sun. We are told that stars are self-consuming thermonuclear engines that have sufficient fuel (hydrogen) to maintain a steady output for millions or billions of years. However, while the Sun”s visible light output varies by only tenths of a percent, its energy in UV and X-rays varies by a factor of 20!

quoted from this link: The Sun - Our Variable Star (http://www.holoscience.com/wp/the-sun-our-variable-star/)

which is corroborated here:

 (my highlighting)

The Sun’s output is not constant in time, but the total output [the total solar irradiance (TSI)] was once thought to be invariant.

With the clarity of hindsight, this is somewhat surprising, because sunspots come and go cyclically and their darkness corresponds to a decrease in the solar energy output. Hence, one might have expected the solar output to decrease at solar maximum when many sunspots are present. However, sunspot groups are often surrounded by bright patches called faculae, which tend to com- pensate for the loss of emissions from the dark spots. Which factor dominates, or are they in balance?

In the late 1970s and early 1980s, instruments on two National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) missions (Nimbus-7 and Solar Maximum Mission) began to monitor the solar output with vastly improved precision; their measurements led to the discovery that TSI was positively correlated with the sunspot cycle. Thus, the faculae predominate in determining the variation of TSI throughout the cycle. The long-term variation of the TSI is punctuated by short-lived deep dips (~0.3%) when particularly large sunspot groups transit the solar disk. The problem with looking for longer trends in TSI is that the observations have been taken by several different spacecraft and the task of making a composite to establish a longer baseline is difficult; there have been a number of attempts to do so, but there are wide discrepancies between them, and thus we have no consensus (Frohlich and Lean 2004; Willson and Mordvinov 2003).

We now have just over 30 yr of TSI observations, but this represents only three activity cycles, and it is dangerous to put too much weight on any broad conclusions drawn from them. There are a variety of longer-term proxy data for solar activity, but many of the proxy estimates are based largely on less reliable SSN measurements and so may be adding as much noise as signal to our understanding of solar activity patterns.

The change in TSI over a solar cycle is <0.1%. However, the emission in various wavebands can vary
much more substantially. For example, UV irradiance can vary by 10%–40% over a cycle. However, the change in the overall energy input to the Earth from UV variability is very small. Background X-ray emission changes by factors of 100 or more from solar minimum to maximum. These short-wavelength emissions are important; for example, they affect the scale height of our atmosphere, which changes the atmospheric drag on low Earth orbiting (LEO) satellites. We will deal with these issues in more detail in the subsequent papers.

quoted from this article (link is to a PDF): Understanding Space Weather: The Sun as a Variable Star (http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-11-00179.1)

Sunny-side-up
2nd November 2017, 14:08
Just adding:

Is our Star getting hotter or is it our frequency that is changing ?

Are we/our solar system experiencing radiation differently, shifting?

Foxie Loxie
2nd November 2017, 14:23
I'm wondering about The Wave, Paul L. talks about.....is that affecting our entire solar system? :confused:

Joe from the Carolinas
3rd November 2017, 03:05
Regardless of whether there is a lot of sun activity or a little bit of sun activity, crop production is going to be negatively impacted with the way the multinationals practice monoculture to feed the bulk of the world. I suspect that if the extremes are where they’re being projected in this thread, there’s going to be a rice shortage.

Best to stock up and/or get that garden in gear. Little farmers and home gardeners can swing around season and frost pattern changes by seeding the ground on a monthly basis, interplanting, and expecting a certain degree of loss.

TargeT
3rd November 2017, 13:10
The entirety of the suns output lessens during a solar minimum not just portions, we got this pretty well figured out (https://www.vencoreweather.com/blog/2017/6/26/1200-pm-cosmic-rays-continue-to-rise-as-solar-cycle-approaches-next-minimum)... anecdotal "sun feels hot" stories infer a correlation that ignores a multitude of variables.

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Also.. the hole in the ozone layer is the smallest it's been since 1988 (https://www.cnet.com/news/nasa-ozone-hole-layer-smallest-since-1988-noaa/)


Regardless of whether there is a lot of sun activity or a little bit of sun activity, crop production is going to be negatively impacted with the way the multinationals practice monoculture to feed the bulk of the world. I suspect that if the extremes are where they’re being projected in this thread, there’s going to be a rice shortage.

Best to stock up and/or get that garden in gear. Little farmers and home gardeners can swing around season and frost pattern changes by seeding the ground on a monthly basis, interplanting, and expecting a certain degree of loss.

but... but.... 66 bushels per acre?! surely health and future food production are worth sacrificing for that kind of profit! (never mind the excess corn we let sit and rot, or how much of it we turn directly into HFCS).Luckily my favorite food subsists on wild vegetation....