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Arcturian108
7th November 2017, 14:52
Folks,
The source (Sorcha Faal) is questionable, but the contents of this article are fascinating and believable. Run it by your own psychic meters:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2426.htm

Praxis
8th November 2017, 00:08
You have Trump so firmly on this pedestal he could literally murder innocent white children on national tv and you would claim they were deep state agents.

I like how in love you people all are with the National Security State now because supposedly they are backing trump, yet are powerless to actually change the empire. (PS WE ARE STILL OCCUPYING IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN and if you are in favor then you are now part of the swamp)


This site has lost all objectivity in the realm of politics. I can see why certain members leave. I miss this member and their contributions. I hope im wrong and they just have real world situations to handle but Im afraid it is because just like the Dems did with Obama, ya ll are doing with trump and you are getting into bed with the dregs of the right in doing so.

Arcturian108
8th November 2017, 01:20
You have Trump so firmly on this pedestal he could literally murder innocent white children on national tv and you would claim they were deep state agents.

I like how in love you people all are with the National Security State now because supposedly they are backing trump, yet are powerless to actually change the empire. (PS WE ARE STILL OCCUPYING IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN and if you are in favor then you are now part of the swamp)


This site has lost all objectivity in the realm of politics. I can see why certain members leave. I miss this member and their contributions. I hope im wrong and they just have real world situations to handle but Im afraid it is because just like the Dems did with Obama, ya ll are doing with trump and you are getting into bed with the dregs of the right in doing so.

I know I haven't posted my age in my profile, but I was born during World War II. Thus I recall John F. Kennedy's assassination in real time, and watched Oswald killed live on TV. I was also a mature adult when 9/11 happened, and spent many postgraduate years as a student/instructor of American and Western history. I have resided 23 years outside of the U.S. and speak an Asian language fluently. If you cannot see how brave Donald Trump is to take on the whole establishment of the U.S. (and the world), including the Clinton and Bush crime families, I believe it is just because of your youth and inexperience.

Also, I believe that the dichotomy which you know as the "left" and the "right" is a figment of the elite's imagination, used solely for propaganda purposes to keep us divided.

Praxis
8th November 2017, 01:33
How exactly is he taking them on?

Arcturian108
8th November 2017, 01:48
How exactly is he taking them on?

He is taking them on by whittling away at their authority - calling mainstream media outlets, like CNN and the New York Times "fake news". Challenging the entire Bush family by calling Jeb "low energy" for instance. I could go on as the list is long, but I am getting sleepy. The ship of state has been headed in the wrong direction for so long that anything Trump can accomplish while in office is just a gift that I didn't think I would see in my lifetime.

Helene West
8th November 2017, 02:05
You have Trump so firmly on this pedestal he could literally murder innocent white children on national tv and you would claim they were deep state agents.


Ignoring your bent for hyperbole, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, I voted against the evil I'm convinced are the clintons. I don't think I'm alone in having done that. Not everyone who voted for trump are fanboys and fangirls. You're really mistaken on that point. Rather they are people who have a realistic fear and knowledge based on years of reading and observing of those who own the banks and corporations and what they are doing to destroy every sovereign nation in the western world. Trump was a wild card for many but the clintons were/are guarandamnteed service workers of the globalist oligarchy.

I don't know how you've managed to reach your conclusions but you're misinterpreting what is going on here let alone the world stage.

KiwiElf
8th November 2017, 04:19
How exactly is he taking them on?

You will soon see... "The Calm Before The Storm"

Praxis
8th November 2017, 06:55
Memes, gotcha Arc

Words of Joy
8th November 2017, 08:08
I think it would be good to look at the differences between interior policy and foreign policy under Trump. What I see, and I'm by no means an expert, is that interior something is done to expose the Clintons and Bushes and what more, though what is the goal of that? I can't think of anything else than the faction, Trump is part of, is working to obtain more (financial) power in the US. Exterior, I see, among a lot of other things, big weapon deals with Saudi Arabia, which directly translates into destabilization of the region on different levels. So, basically, from my perspective the game hasn't changed really, only the players. In Europe deals are now made to scale up militarizing and arming the EU for 40 Billion euro, without the European Parliament voting for it, not to speak about national level voting. Tax payers will be paying for that of course. Chopping away some corrupt enemies will create goodwill with the (indirect) victims of the corrupt enemies, but doesn't necessarily mean one is on a righteous path. I'm praying for righteousness..

Baby Steps
8th November 2017, 11:05
What could be afoot?

Some think, like the Middle East Monitor (https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171106-is-saudis-bin-salman-tackling-corruption-or-making-money/), and the WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-expands-crackdown-on-elite-1510062385), that the arrests are a cash-grab. The Saudi state is struggling with structural deficits due to the low oil price, and a huge amount of private wealth is being seized.

Beyond that I do think there is something to what 'Sorcha' is saying. The Saudi establishment is notoriously hypocritical in its behaviour behind closed doors. Drugs, Alcohol, and sex. Whole hotels in Bangkok decked out as Arabic palaces. It is the information war that is key.

If NSA and Mossad have all the details which I do not doubt they do, it means that The Russians probably do - and other hackers. Stuff could come out.

So lets say the Saudis are confronting Hezbollah- acting as a warrior state for Israel. Then out pops leaks about how the Saudis supported terrorism in Syria etc. And the religious hypocrisy. The STATE would then become vulnerable to an Islamic revolution.

Before they start attacking Israel's enemies, they need to be seen to be above reproach by the Saudi public.

Arcturian108
8th November 2017, 17:59
Harley recently posted # 901 on "Active Shooter in Las Vegas" thread that I think also ties the Saudis to Las Vegas, and possibly to Trump. See the original article here:
http://http://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/07/las-vegas-saudi-crown-prince-salman-assassination-attempt/ (http://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/07/las-vegas-saudi-crown-prince-salman-assassination-attempt/)

KiwiElf
8th November 2017, 22:24
Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

Bruno
9th November 2017, 16:45
Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

Scratching my head- are you saying we are moving toward American martial law and or that is what the Trump administration wants or needs?

Arcturian108
9th November 2017, 19:13
Calm Before The Storm - Answers to "Q's" 4chan Questions

https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e3d1071b533c412f8bc08ebbb1b444f6

This will open as a smartsheet in your browser, answering many of the cryptic questions from the mysterious "Q" who has been posting questions at 4-Chan (it's also been saved as a 32 pp PDF at my end) - enjoy

Scratching my head- are you saying we are moving toward American martial law and or that is what the Trump administration wants or needs?

Although KiwiElf posted this chart taken from the 4chan site, and should probably address your query, I believe that the chart just shows the options that are available to President Trump and his administration. The stated options in the chart are likely available to most sitting presidents, but are not generally known by either the American public or those outside our country. Considering that Pres. Trump is under constant attack by almost every part of both U.S. and world media, some of us wonder how he has managed to stay alive. The chart that KiwiElf has found explains that he has considerable military and intelligence backup, which doesn't mean that he wants to use martial law, just that it is one of the tools available to him in an emergency.