View Full Version : Bentinho Massaro: NEW AGE CULT LEADER
GroovieBean
2nd December 2017, 21:18
IMO this multi guru new age cult are tied into some sort of agenda with SSP hijacking
recently on my youtube channel been working thru the NEW AGE CULT WARNING signs
in a series and just recently discussed Bentinho , then the news article dropped ..
My channel and a few of our discussions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWg-rgpa2uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpGSKsQVD6Q
ALSO HAVE videos on my channel about ascension , law of one as mind control
news article: https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-inside-the-sedona-cult-of-bentinho-massaro-a56314f830ef
Eclipse of Disclosure had Bentinho as a speaker and SBA has the video on their Youtube
IMO USE OF ASCENSION MIND CONTROL & LAW OF ONE MIND CONTROL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_PlmAve6-
GroovieBean
2nd December 2017, 21:54
IMO JUST PART OF THE CIRCUS UNDER A LARGE UMBRELLA
this example of use of ASCENSION MIND CONTROL, LAW OF ONE MIND CONTROL
AND imo shows part of the players in this SSP new age cult hijacking
https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24273505_10215153265049860_8435576244224337061_o.jpg?oh=2cad191d0621c3f6df9e7832d1a02e43&oe=5A8D8D5D
Callista
3rd December 2017, 11:45
Thanks to Daniel Liszt for drawing my attention to this, from this website:
https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-inside-the-sedona-cult-of-bentinho-massaro-a56314f830ef
Tech Bro Guru: Inside the Sedona Cult of Bentinho Massaro:
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Photos taken from Bentinho Massaro’s Instagram account. Massaro is perhaps the first “Instagram Guru.”
Sedona, AZ has been infiltrated by a polyamorous tech bro cult leader with a massive following. His devotees are everywhere. They believe he can control the weather with his mind. He talks about aliens & government conspiracies, sleeps with and verbally abuses students and believes he is an awakened God not responsible for his actions. He loves expensive scotch and has a sweet spot for cigars, but not Cubans. I spent one month embedded in his group under the alias “Shakti Hunter.” This is my report. #WelcomeToSedona
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Read more:
https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-inside-the-sedona-cult-of-bentinho-massaro-a56314f830ef
Billy
3rd December 2017, 11:52
From the article posted by Callista.
In 2012 Bentinho posted on FB that he has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
Says it all yet people still fall for this very dangerous BS. Unbelievable. :facepalm:
uzn
3rd December 2017, 12:04
Definitly a narc. All Ego no spirituality. No Feelings for others, very dangerous. He will use everything to gain power over others.
Mark (Star Mariner)
3rd December 2017, 12:39
I liked this apt description from the article: Steve Jobs meets Jim Jones.
Very disturbing.
Builder
3rd December 2017, 16:24
In 2012 Bentinho posted on FB that he has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
Good chances to become the next POTUS then ;-)
Caliban
3rd December 2017, 17:46
Great article by Be Scofield. Really gets to the heart of what this guy is up to.
What can you say about a guy like that--except that he's a major Creep? But people are drawn, ever so, to charismatic know it alls that will tell them how to live their lives and achieve a blissful state without doing any work or inner practice. Or even maturation. And they watch these guys become very, very wealthy.
I really don't see anything positive in the future for his followers. I see disillusionment, estrangement, grief and worse. I wish you the best but you need to let this guy go. No one can do this for you. As Nisargadatta Maharaj always said: The true Guru is within.
Flash
3rd December 2017, 19:39
from what i see, yes, he is narcissistic
A pure representation of his generation - this is why he appeals so much to them. Talking with vulgar words to each other is typical to that generation - they all send fu c k s to each other, are quite rude to each other yet get easily triggered emotionally when they feel rejected for any given reason
Also, being polyamorous and easily transitioning from one sex to another is the huge fashion right now. Talking against this is seen as backward and racist/sexist/segregationist/ all the ist you can think of.
i have no idea where this will lead in terms of society. All I know is that most of those young do have a fundamental good heart, but are quite mixed up. But, on the other hand, they are much more straight forward than any of the older generation, direct, wanting the truth while refusing it if not in their conceptual paradigms.
I think that Massaro represents them pretty much, and is making money out of it (that generation despise power through money but wants all the comfort and pleasures that come with money often taken from others - their moral values are substantially different from some of the oldies' ones - but not from PTB). He is using concepts that could be opening some of these young minds to spirituality. But he is certainly not 8th density lollllllll
This is the bottom row of spiritual development in my views.
Did you know that a lot of Cabal higher levels do have spiritual development, they do study it, learning in unnatural ways, forcing it and they use it for themselves, therefore becoming black. The old service to self vs service to other.
Massaro would say : look at what I am doing, opening all those mind to inner development and spiritual attainment. The question would then be for whom, to whom's benefit, yourself and your cabal, or them and humanity? What seems service to other is often a hidden service to self. Discernment is key.
I also noticed that he does not teach the opening of the heart, which is paramount for service to others and true spirituality.
Time will tell if this guy is not in this side of things, although it is beginning to tell already it seems.
Nomatic
4th December 2017, 02:30
I scanned into his energy and it is Luciferian...
Very dangerous character.....
Ive seen this type in person before
WalterBosley
4th December 2017, 04:46
Oh, he's a Democrat...? He'll have to wait several years ;)
In 2012 Bentinho posted on FB that he has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
Good chances to become the next POTUS then ;-)
Rhah
4th December 2017, 09:18
This muppet again. Please let's just avoid his videos as much as possible, people. His potential victims will see a large amount of views as nothing but a confirmation of his apparent right and potential. And we don't want that.
Billy
5th December 2017, 10:54
The Dark Brew team. Avalon member Groovie Bean/ Yvonne Palermo and Lisa Green Tenney discuss, cutting the cords with cults, experiences with alternative media and narcissistic players, the illusion, the deception and psychic vampires.
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Kevan
5th December 2017, 11:41
How odd.. someone just warned me for this guy. But I'm not interested in guru's, so I skipped the warning. But he gave me some fascinating reading material:
https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-inside-the-sedona-cult-of-bentinho-massaro-a56314f830ef
Maybe someone can use it, or maybe it might be helpful for someone, bring your flashlight, it's dark outside.
edit: I see the the link is posted before, sorry.
GroovieBean
5th December 2017, 17:01
thank you, was trying to find the corey goode thread, to plop it in there, my noggin just doesn't navigate forums well...
Mod edit. Now plopped in :bearhug:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1194566&viewfull=1#post1194566
GroovieBean
5th December 2017, 23:04
Thanks kindly... tricky tbi really causes me tough time navigating lol.. MUCH APPRECIATED thank you!
Mike
6th December 2017, 00:02
I just hope someone is video recording with their phone when one of the audience members finally runs up there and punches him in the face.
And I hope I'm that audience member.
Not too long ago I sort of semi-defended this guy. Not defended as in "hey I like this fellow and think he's on to something" but defended as in "hey come on guys, not *everyone* associated with Goode is a bad guy." It felt a little witch hunty to me at that time.
But now I've updated my thinking...
I believe I described my impression of him then as (paraphrase) "the new age guru in American movies with the silly sounding accent who addressees big crowds with grace and charm but then returns backstage to find a zit on his forehead and completely loses his sh!t." He's a living, walking caricature. He reminds me of a villain that might appear in a buddy cop movie from the 80's or 90's...where everyone in the audience knows what a slimy piece of sh!t he is right from the start, but the characters in the movie seem oblivious...
I don't know how this movie will end exactly, I just know it won't end well for Massaro. I can see Eddie Murphy arresting him with that iconic laugh of his and pushing this guy into an outdated police crusier. A quip or 2 later and the credits roll.
I just don't know how anyone could possibly take this clown seriously.
GroovieBean
7th December 2017, 21:14
https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15873494_10215200781397739_7551624132115522924_n.jpg?oh=5d042bddc50a9c91d472794c9e887079&oe=5A8EA408
https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24910092_10215200827678896_8510032739329592861_n.jpg?oh=48594fc5df53c2bcfec8174a50611527&oe=5AD3881D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpGSKsQVD6Q
Joe from the Carolinas
9th December 2017, 07:58
So when does he get a show on gaiam tv?
Wind
9th December 2017, 10:13
Can someone please post the link to the other thread about this guy? I couldn’t find it.
My intuition is one of my main tools in life, I’m familiar with psychology and the human psyche so I read people with ease. I said my thoughts already there in the other thread, but to say it shortly again... People like these are dangerous and certainly not only to themselves. True spirituality is not about being under the illusion of some self obsessed cult leader. True spiritual path is a journey within. Never give your power away to someone else, that’s a recipe for a disaster.
People like this will suck your energy and give worthless dross in return.
WalterBosley
9th December 2017, 10:21
Exactly right.
Can someone of the mods please post the link to the other thread about this guy? My intuition is one of my main tools in life, I’m familiar with psychology and the human psyche so I read people with ease. I said my thoughts already there in the other thread, but to say it shortly again... People like these are dangerous and certainly not only to themselves. True spirituality is not about being under the illusion some self obsessed cult leader. True spiritual path is a journey within. Never give your power away to someone else, that’s a recipe for a disaster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLzJAebfEIg
RunningDeer
9th December 2017, 13:03
Can someone please post the link to the other thread about this guy? I couldn’t find it.
My intuition is one of my main tools in life, I’m familiar with psychology and the human psyche so I read people with ease. I said my thoughts already there in the other thread, but to say it shortly again... People like these are dangerous and certainly not only to themselves. True spirituality is not about being under the illusion of some self obsessed cult leader. True spiritual path is a journey within. Never give your power away to someone else, that’s a recipe for a disaster.
People like this will suck your energy and give worthless dross in return.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/write.gifC. Goode and B. Massaro – buyer beware alert (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99963-C.-Goode-and-B.-Massaro----buyer-beware-alert&p=1181889&viewfull=1#post1181889)
bluestflame
9th December 2017, 13:11
Can someone please post the link to the other thread about this guy? I couldn’t find it.
My intuition is one of my main tools in life, I’m familiar with psychology and the human psyche so I read people with ease. I said my thoughts already there in the other thread, but to say it shortly again... People like these are dangerous and certainly not only to themselves. True spirituality is not about being under the illusion of some self obsessed cult leader. True spiritual path is a journey within. Never give your power away to someone else, that’s a recipe for a disaster.
People like this will suck your energy and give worthless dross in return.
" where there are no leaders there can be no followers "
uzn
9th December 2017, 13:20
Narcissist is just a modern mainstream name for them, they are also known as psychic Vampires. They feed on the dreams and hopes of others. They have an outstanding psychic ability: They can tell someone exactly what they want to hear. On a personal level and on a group level. That is what makes them so attractive to people in search for something. But make no mistake about it, they feed on their victims (followers), not only moneywise also on a spiritual level.
Wind
9th December 2017, 15:15
C. Goode and B. Massaro – buyer beware alert (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99963-C.-Goode-and-B.-Massaro----buyer-beware-alert&p=1181889&viewfull=1#post1181889)
Thank you, Paula.
GroovieBean
12th December 2017, 21:18
TONIGHT COMPLETE WALK THROUGH AND MY EXPERIENCE FROM WITHIN
pass it along ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf7raPDaHeA
Wind
13th December 2017, 00:02
I noticed that Bentinho has released one hour long response video to counter the accusations.
In case someone wants to listen to it, here it is. I can't stomach it.
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Mike
13th December 2017, 20:16
Ah man - I was looking forward to disliking this guy even more, but he disappointed me by appearing sort of reasonable and even (gulp) likeable in a few instances...(in Wind's video)
Well here's the deal with this dude...
He knows when to push the accelerator and when to lay off. His natural tendency is to be confrontational and belligerent; it takes a conscious effort for him to remain calm and diplomatic like this. I think he even admits it somewhere in there. He is quite able to play both roles, with equal skill.
Is this a manipulative tactic? Or a sound teaching strategy? This is the question one has to answer for oneself.
He's a smart guy. He knows people. He knows his audience. In this video he was playing the patient guru role because circumstances dictated it. Again, there is an art to knowing how to deal with people, especially groups, and he's quite good at it. Is this disingenuous or manipulative? I dunno. You decide.
We all do this to some degree. It's an adaptive technique.
He is able to explain away the accusations against him calmly and reasonably. One might then say a master manipulator would easily be able to do such a thing, and that I have been fooled. Maybe they're right. Not sure.
I've written 2 posts on this guy. In the first I kind of defended him. The second I kind of laid into him. And now that I've got all that outta the way, I think I'm ready to offer a sort of balanced opinion.
First of all, I think Benitho is a little disturbed. There is something there in the eyes that gives him away. There is a very thin wire between disturbed and eccentric, and he's just barely balanced on it. Truthfully, I think he's going back n forth between the 2, minute to minute. It's hard to pin him down because he vacillates a little. Like most eccentric, charismatic, intelligent people, there will always be a touch of madness there. Shall we forgive him this? Do the ends justify the means? You decide.
Having said that, I think there is a little witch hunt-y vibe surrounding the accusations. People in the community are so defensive and sensitive to these new age guru types, and it results in overreactions and nit picking imo. Some of the accusations against him annoyed me to be honest, with certain groups wanting special treatment and so forth. I have to say, I would not have handled that situation with as much patience as Massaro did.
So, I see some manipulation, some sincerity, some real desire to reach people, some desire to be admired, some desire to be liked, some ego distortion, some of this and some of that. In other words, I see a human being. All these characteristics are revealed in different proportions and at different times, making him hard to pin down. Sometimes i almost like the guy, sometimes i can't stand him, sometimes i understand his aggressive approach and sometimes I wanna punch him.
I regard him as a novelty. For me he is harmless. But I know there is legitimate concern about his ability to manipulate the gullible and the vulnerable, and people are concerned. I get that.
So lets keep an eye on him. See what he does next. But I just can't find it in myself to tear him down, or get too excited about these accusations. Not yet anyway.
Wind
13th December 2017, 20:59
I'm still inclined to think that he is a master manipulator with narcissistic, if not worse tendencies. Such types are usually dangerous.
Just my two cents. I hope to be wrong, but I think I'm not.
Mike
13th December 2017, 21:37
I'm still inclined to think that he is a master manipulator with narcissistic, if not worse tendencies. Such types are usually dangerous.
Just my two cents. I hope to be wrong, but I think I'm not.
Hi Wind,
Very well could be! I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
The problem, for me anyway, is that i'm a Gemini...and I'm cursed with this mind that almost always attempts to see both sides, even long after that approach is productive. I feel almost powerless to do anything about it. It's just how my mind works.
That may sound lame to many, and i get that, but I believe it to be true.
But I'll say this, just to be clear: even the small part of me that sympathizes with the guy wouldn't attend any of his lectures or retreats or whatever. I have no interest in him as a person or teacher. What does interest me is other people's reactions. I've always been fascinated by human behavior in that way. In many ways I regard myself solely as the observer. Maybe that explains my impartiality a little.
The Moss Trooper
13th December 2017, 22:05
New Age Conspiracism is a rather cult-like social phenomenon.
Its self-appointed gurus promulgate fifth-rate mysticism, quasi-religious sentiment and sci-fi fantasies that masquerade as fact. They become mini-celebrities gathering small legions of fans, whose outlook is dominated by the gurus' bizarre narratives. They delude themselves into imagining they're going to transform the world, and buy up books, videos, one-to-one sessions, workshops, conferences etc, talk in buzzwords and obscure jargon about 'waking up', leaving behind 'the matrix' and so on and so forth… JUST… LIKE... A …CULT.
Wind
13th December 2017, 22:28
The problem, for me anyway, is that i'm a Gemini...and I'm cursed with this mind that almost always attempts to see both sides, even long after that approach is productive. I feel almost powerless to do anything about it. It's just how my mind works.
That may sound lame to many, and i get that, but I believe it to be true.
Ha, nothing wrong with that, buddy. It's just a quality that you have. My Mercurial Virgo mind likes just to focus on the minutiae all the time...
But I'll say this, just to be clear: even the small part of me that sympathizes with the guy wouldn't attend any of his lectures or retreats or whatever. I have no interest in him as a person or teacher. What does interest me is other people's reactions. I've always been fascinated by human behavior in that way. In many ways I regard myself solely as the observer. Maybe that explains my impartiality a little.
I tend to observe things and people too as I've always been quite fascinated with (weird) human behaviour. I always want to give people the benefit of the doubt. Then I observe, research and use my intuition. If I see others being hurt, or even if there is the possibility of others getting hurt then I feel the need to speak up about it. When someone elevates themselves to some grandiose type of level I get wary. There are teachers and then there are predators disguised as "teachers".
When you are at the position of leadership or mentorship, you are equipped with power. That power should be handled with responsibility, but I believe that power can ultimately corrupt if your ego is not in check. It's the rock star syndrome I suppose, it's just much worse with certain type of people... Like politicians. A horrible drug.
Then again, I've always had more or less problems with the concept of authority because I don't really believe in those kind of things. I'm a sovereign being and I don't give away my power freely and neither should anyone else. No one is above us, no one is below us. There are only people on their individual journeys sharing their lives. Some are worth our trust, some are not.
WalterBosley
13th December 2017, 23:33
People in leadership or authority positions who leave others with a negative view of leadership and authority are doing it wrong. We have to keep in mind that there are numerous people in such positions every day doing it correctly and who grossly outnumber those who do it wrong, so these concepts are not something to be tossed out. Holding individuals accountable is a better expression of resistance to bad leadership and misuse of authority than rejecting the principles. In the case of this insidious maniac Benthino 'Massaro-lini' (Has anyone else noticed the similarity between this guy's name and the infamous fascist boob...?), he needs more of the uncomfortable spotlight of serious scrutiny.
Jayke
14th December 2017, 01:52
I don’t see the kid as any different to any other frat boy philosophy student trying to carve out a niche for personal profit on the net. There’s nothing new or profound about anything he teaches (or that I’ve seen him teach so far), just the same old “do as thou wilt” sense of delusional grandeur that got old after Crowley’s devotees started abusing the idea for personal gratification masquerading as awakening. Even if Bentinho does care about other people’s awakening as strongly as he says he does—more than he cares about his own ego and making a profit—I’d put him in “the path to hell is paved with good intentions” category.
I mean, I hope I’m not the only one disturbed by his opening story in the video Wind posted above. The story where he describes torturing a kitten when he was 8 years old and then proceeds to rationalise that unethical behaviour as going through a “psychic attack” i.e. negative entity possession.
I didn’t see charm or anything endearing in that story, just the big red flag of mental illness.
Personally, I try not to interfere with a persons spiritual development, I understand how evil is part of the divine plan to wise us all up to the difference between what’s right and wrong. If torturing a kitten is something a person feels compelled to do as part of their path to wisdom, then by all means torture that cute, tiny, defenseless kitten. Rub it’s adorable bright eyes into the thorns of that prickly bush for 5 full minutes before regaining your senses and realising how utterly absurd and grotesque that kind of behaviour is.
I just implore people, that if you’re going to test out the dark side and unleash your inner Darth Vader on the defenseless kittens of the world, at least own up to it afterwards. Own those dark impulses and shine a light on them, work through whatever deep seated issues of envy, resentment or jealousy you must be feeling to inflict such pain on the beautiful creatures of the world and stop blaming youthful violence and reckless ignorance on being under psychic attack.
In psychological terms, It’s the inability of the superego to see fault in the self that leads to the narcissistic personality. In extreme cases, it can cause dissociative personality disorder. Claiming to be under psychic attack (or being possessed) indicates a deep schism, or at least a huge blindspot for owning up to our mistakes.
Based on the negative critiques he’s received for verbally abusing his attendees, it seems he’s substituted torturing a kitten for torturing anyone in his audience who questions his lack of sincere compassion. Nice to see the issues that plagued him as a child have found new avenues of influence to express themselves as an adult. It’s almost Freudian in its irony, although its generally what happens when the initial issue continues to be unintegrated and unresolved.
As Mr Bosley pointed out, its the same level of overzealous superego regulation that fascist dictators suffer from as they see themselves as divine and blessed by God, to the point that they can do no evil, even whilst committing gross atrocities on the rest of humanity in the name of whatever cause justifies their destructive, unintegrated, egoic and instinctive impulses.
Provided Bentinho can complete his own shadow work and integrate/accept his flaws without blaming “psychic attacks”, then like all spiritual teachers he has the potential to provide a positive message to the world. If he doesn’t then his planned enlightened community could easily degenerate into another obscure cult or lord of the flies situation. Even the spiritual teacher James Arthur Ray got incarcerated for negligent homicide when a student died on one of his retreats. Bentinho has 10 times the hubris and only a fraction of the wisdom James Arthur Ray did. It’d be wise to keep an eye on this kids development, to make sure the wolf guides his sheep to fruitful pastures, and doesn’t lead them over the edge of an Arizonan cliff in any future relapses of his “psychic attack” phenomenon.
Innocent Warrior
14th December 2017, 02:09
Tsk tsk, nowhere on this thread do I see the most important question asked yet; can Mr Massaro dance?
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On a far more serious note, what Massaro is trying to achieve is very powerful, a critical eye here is healthy.
The series Dangerous Persuasions is a sobering portrait of the brutal damage cults and abductors inflict on their victims and their families, worth a watch for anyone interested in a good overview of cults, how they operate, develop, isolate and control.
Update: I found a Dangerous Persuasions YouTube channel, it has the complete first season and an episode from the second season for anyone interested. It's the usual reality TV format for these types of shows but you get to hear from the former members themselves, so it's informative but more the sort of show you might want to watch while doing chores - https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdBqbgeq0UMb4uZ2FKf78Cg
9ideon
14th December 2017, 04:37
from what i see, yes, he is narcissistic
A pure representation of his generation - this is why he appeals so much to them. Talking with vulgar words to each other is typical to that generation - they all send fu c k s to each other, are quite rude to each other yet get easily triggered emotionally when they feel rejected for any given reason
Also, being polyamorous and easily transitioning from one sex to another is the huge fashion right now. Talking against this is seen as backward and racist/sexist/segregationist/ all the ist you can think of.
i have no idea where this will lead in terms of society.
I'd like to call it "false hysteria", it's an (engineered) pre-sign of what they are trying to accomplish.
What they do is come up with a concept, this concept must be accepted by certain masses, or People. Anyone who goes against it will be either demonized, ridiculed or just plainly attacked. By steering the "popular" masses to their cause they manipulate population thinking, at the same time media has been sterilized to the same way of thinking, meaning that the so called journalists are merely gatekeepers who read of an auto cue not investigating or researching any of the items they have been told to read. Even if they would, they will not be allowed to adjust any of the lines fed to them, so. The Hysteric masses will now be confirmed in their bubble thinking way of life.
When you have accomplished full control of the news, the way People are supposed to think and live, indoctrination of Children has already started since they are now being told by both teachers and print what fake news is ( I kid you not, lol), you control flow of information. In a way setting us back pre-internet era due to the fact that the net will become a controlled environment in which information is plastic and thus one will not know truly what happens on the other side of the World unless someone tells you, which you cannot post on the net cause you'll be attacked for it since it will not meet the standards of the brainwashed sheeple, now that the Kids are indoctrinated, well, I'll give it one more gen before this World is factually controlled by a so called Elite who will not be challenged by anyone because they will be seen as Superstars defending the poor.
Even if the nay sayers are in the plus, it will not matter, the ones that will control the media (social) will set the tone, namely, false hysteria. After comes fuedalism molded into a "Modern" jacket.
I guess Goebbels would be very proud the way this has been done.
:cheers:
Smell the Roses
14th December 2017, 14:17
When I was a member of a Sedona New Age cult in the 1990s, Dateline NBC did an undercover expose (http://nhne-pulse.org/a-1998-undercover-report-about-gabriel-of-sedonaurantia-2/) somewhat like the one described here. It alerted family members to what was actually going on there and in combination with an expose by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach (http://rapeutation.com/ExposeofTonyDelevinGABRIEL.pdf), ultimately resulted in myself and many others leaving the cult. It's a fine way to allow adults to decide for themselves, before getting too deeply sucked into the program.
Wind
14th December 2017, 14:25
I mean, I hope I’m not the only one disturbed by his opening story in the video Wind posted above. The story where he describes torturing a kitten when he was 8 years old and then proceeds to rationalise that unethical behaviour as going through a “psychic attack” i.e. negative entity possession.
I didn’t see charm or anything endearing in that story, just the big red flag of mental illness.
Animal torture is a sign of severe lack of empathy. It is known that children who have such tendencies might later on become serial killers. Of course you could ask what made them act that way and often those children have been treated poorly, most often by their parents.
When it comes to the psychic attacks... Yes, the demons or lower astral entities do prey on the vulnerable people with certain "mental conditions", which may allow them to cause them to commit atrocities because they sort of become hypnotized to so. I do believe that most murders and atroticies have been committed under the influence of lower astral forces, but that of course doesn't take away the responsibility of the individual. That's no excuse.
Yet the concept of free will isn't as simple as we would like to think. We are all the time open to all kind of suggestions and influences. If we are not mentally balanced and vigil, we might succumb to those darker tendencies. They are there waiting on and preying on humanity.
The game of life is a dance between light and dark.
RunningDeer
14th December 2017, 14:32
Tsk tsk, nowhere on this thread do I see the most important question asked yet; can Mr Massaro dance?
8SZNyDx5rZ0
On a far more serious note, what Massaro is trying to achieve is very powerful, a critical eye here is healthy.
The series Dangerous Persuasions is a sobering portrait of the brutal damage cults and abductors inflict on their victims and their families, worth a watch for anyone interested in a good overview of cults, how they operate, develop, isolate and control.
Update: I found a Dangerous Persuasions YouTube channel, it has the complete first season and an episode from the second season for anyone interested. It's the usual reality TV format for these types of shows but you get to hear from the former members themselves, so it's informative but more the sort of show you might want to watch while doing chores - https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdBqbgeq0UMb4uZ2FKf78Cg
Thanks, Rachel. Dangerous Persuasions is new to me. Here's a direct link to the 7 episodes (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBqbgeq0UMb4uZ2FKf78Cg/videos).
As for Bentinho Massaro, I listened to him a while back for a couple of long minutes. I got the creeps. My label for people like this is a pretender.
:offtopic: In reference to Rachel's dance video from "The Next Karate Kid", it got a low rating (4.3 out of 10), but I enjoyed it.
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Shadowself
14th December 2017, 15:09
I mean, I hope I’m not the only one disturbed by his opening story in the video Wind posted above. The story where he describes torturing a kitten when he was 8 years old and then proceeds to rationalise that unethical behaviour as going through a “psychic attack” i.e. negative entity possession.
I didn’t see charm or anything endearing in that story, just the big red flag of mental illness.
Animal torture is a sign of severe lack of empathy. It is known that children who have such tendencies might later on become serial killers. Of course you could ask what made them act that way and often those children have been treated poorly, most often by their parents.
When it comes to the psychic attacks... Yes, the demons or lower astral entities do prey on the vulnerable people with certain "mental conditions", which may allow them to cause them to commit atrocities because they sort of become hypnotized to so. I do believe that most murders and atroticies have been committed under the influence of lower astral forces, but that of course doesn't take away the responsibility of the individual. That's no excuse.
Yet the concept of free will isn't as simple as we would like to think. We are all the time open to all kind of suggestions and influences. If we are not mentally balanced and vigil, we might succumb to those darker tendencies. They are there waiting on and preying on humanity.
The game of life is a dance between light and dark.
I agree with this very much but would like to take it a step further. This guy reminds me of the roll Christian Bale played of Patrick Bateman.
The analogies of Bateman and Bentinho are amazingly similar. While not on the field of high finance like Bateman...he (Bentinho) plays that character to a tee if you ask me.
Here is a pretty good summary of the movie and some of it's various nuances.
Important NOTE: Bentinho CONFESSES TO KILLING A CAT. Bateman's first kill is a cat!....now watch this and tell me he's not living out this fantasy on some level!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByLEIKTjgtk
WhatTha'
17th December 2017, 02:20
I noticed that Bentinho has released one hour long response video to counter the accusations.
In case someone wants to listen to it, here it is. I can't stomach it.
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This is my only exposure to this guy, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone more sincere that what I've seen here. Just a casual opinion.
Shadowself
17th December 2017, 14:24
This is my only exposure to this guy, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone more sincere that what I've seen here. Just a casual opinion.
That is what the followers of Jim Jones and Marshal Applewhite said....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub5Hl8Xi1kU
Wind
17th December 2017, 17:09
This is my only exposure to this guy, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone more sincere that what I've seen here. Just a casual opinion.
Well, I can understand that, because that's what I first thought when I saw him years ago. Look behind the bright Pepsodent smile... I'm sorry to say this, but many seemingly "sincere" people (especially celebs and politicians) out there are actually the worst ones.
I always get a certain "vibe" from people and from him I get a disturbed one.
Mike
17th December 2017, 18:57
He seems sincere, and maybe there is a little sincerity there, but it seems to me that it takes a conscious effort for him to appear that way. It doesnt come natural.
His instincts lean more towards aggression and bombast.
The Buddhists talk about practicing compassion. Practicing kindness. That always seemed silly to me. But then I started doing it. I made a conscious decision maybe a couple years ago to be a bit more kind and gentle (not just with others, but with myself too). It really does work. My natural tendencies were more towards sarcasm and aggression too. That's changed some.
Maybe it's a stretch to say Massaro is practicing patience and understanding here. But I think he consciously tempers his more abrasive instincts at times to be a bit more relatable. Is that phony or smart? Is it deceptive or a sincere attempt to connect?
Time will tell.
I do think, like I previously said, that this man is a little unbalanced. Maybe even disturbed. That's my instinct talking. My intuition. The other side to me - the purely logical side - needs to see a little more before I can totally dismiss him.
Rich
17th December 2017, 19:36
The Buddhists talk about practicing compassion. Practicing kindness. That always seemed silly to me. But then I started doing it. I made a conscious decision maybe a couple years ago to be a bit more kind and gentle (not just with others, but with myself too). It really does work. My natural tendencies were more towards sarcasm and aggression too. That's changed some.
But if one believes kindness entails sacrifice who would be willing to be kind? It has to come from an understanding and cannot be forced artificially.
Mike
17th December 2017, 20:36
The Buddhists talk about practicing compassion. Practicing kindness. That always seemed silly to me. But then I started doing it. I made a conscious decision maybe a couple years ago to be a bit more kind and gentle (not just with others, but with myself too). It really does work. My natural tendencies were more towards sarcasm and aggression too. That's changed some.
But if one believes kindness entails sacrifice who would be willing to be kind? It has to come from an understanding and cannot be forced artificially.
I respectfully disagree.
Ever hear the phrase "fake it till you make it"?
It's like that. Maybe it is artificial at first, but then it becomes natural.
Innocent Warrior
18th December 2017, 04:58
The Buddhists talk about practicing compassion. Practicing kindness. That always seemed silly to me. But then I started doing it. I made a conscious decision maybe a couple years ago to be a bit more kind and gentle (not just with others, but with myself too). It really does work. My natural tendencies were more towards sarcasm and aggression too. That's changed some.
But if one believes kindness entails sacrifice who would be willing to be kind? It has to come from an understanding and cannot be forced artificially.
I respectfully disagree.
Ever hear the phrase "fake it till you make it"?
It's like that. Maybe it is artificial at first, but then it becomes natural.
Yep, you have learn to do this when working in hospitality (serving multiple customers each minute), it's as effortless as breathing after a while, I call it my hospitality face.
GroovieBean
21st December 2017, 21:53
UPDATE FROM BE SCOFIELD
Be Scofield
December 19 at 5:09pm ·
WOW! SHAKTI POWER TO THE PEOPLE! 💥💥💥
Bentinho Massaro fled Sedona!
He didn't even tell his team where he want. He may not return! #IndyActivism
[Posted this morning in his private group]
"Hello my friends,
Allison, Jocelyn and myself have felt this intuitive pressure on our system for the past week and a half being here in Sedona. I will describe it in greater depth soon, but for now all you need to know is that we left Sedona and it is unclear yet if/when we will return.
Everywhere we went, restaurants, grocery stores, favorite places etc we would be talk of the town and get nasty looks. Moreso than that our address and phone numbers have been compromised and I do not wish to take any risk with these girls' lives. Or my own for that matter (I decided upon wisdom rather than blind love, feels great!)
We also received some threats and the energy felt ominous even without us actively fearing anything. We felt unsafe in our own home and unwanted in town, and our bodies would feel borderline nauseous without explanation other than this strong feeling that we should leave Sedona ASAP. And so we did.
Also from the public sedona bulletin group and the gossip going around it was made very clear that there are many people who don't want me here, and there were very few voices standing up toward the greater community for our stay here and what we do. I have truly no desire to be somewhere where the majority of those who are willing to raise their voice vote for me gone.
I go where my work is being called for because I do not wish to infringe upon any town or collective or person. In fact my incarnation exists because of a calling only. I have no other personal reason for being here, and so I go where the calling is strongest.
I apologize for those who DO desire me in Sedona, but your voices have not been sufficiently heard in the sedona collective or made enough of a difference at this point to outweigh/shift the other voices/energetics.
And so we are extremely excited about our next adventure. Every day will be non-linear from now on and I'm shifting my work to online and to those who really want to become powerful shepherds themselves and are willing to show up for that fully.
As a result of this, the session tomorrow at Creative Life Center will either be a past recording or a live video with me depending on my whereabouts and the internet situation. Also I will write a longer message to the Sedona adepts which Ryan or Callie will read during the meeting at Creative Life Center.
I recommend you all show up and come together! This may be the last official meeting.
Much love,
Bentinho
PS - We did not tell anyone where we were going, not even my own team, nor will we, so no need to ask us or others.""
BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE HE RUNS?? boulder blue birds perhaps?
Wind
21st December 2017, 22:22
Poor little bugger, he got called out? Who would have seen that happening? Note that I don't condone any threats towards any persons, that's just not cool. I'd think truly spiritual persons would know to act better than that.
I don't know who the other girl is, but his girlfriend Jocelyn Daher (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw3xZ0QPJTFsO-OOIy-gs0A/videos?disable_polymer=1) feels genuinely like a great person, so I feel bad for her because she's being taken on this "ride". Then again, it's really not my business. People subject themselves to these kind of things voluntarily without realizing what they're getting into. I hope that Bentinho would man up and return to planet Earth from his ego trip, but the cynical part me doesn't see that happening anytime soon. I'll be glad if I am proven wrong.
Here's Bentinho's last post on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/bentinhomassaro/photos/a.620165461382782.1073741827.191512050914794/1696841920381792/?type=3).
He says that others are projecting, but seems to be doing it himself. Is he taking any responsibility for his actions? I am just seeing a word salad there and I didn't even bother to read through it, because it didn't feel genuine and got bored halfway through. Makes me actually wonder why I wasted my time on this.
Btw, people who are calling out frauds and dangerous people these days in the spiritual community are not "attacking" anyone. If you hate or act violently towards someone even verbally then that's another thing. But I guess you would know about that, right Ben?
Daozen
21st December 2017, 22:30
The power of the internet. Is the alt media the Kalki Avatar of myth and legend?
Innocent Warrior
22nd December 2017, 00:13
I apologize for those who DO desire me in Sedona, but your voices have not been sufficiently heard in the sedona collective or made enough of a difference at this point to outweigh/shift the other voices/energetics.
That was mean. Didn't some of those people who desire him to be in Sedona move there on his suggestion? Congrats to Sedona, he's a self-absorbed, irresponsible, cold person.
Shadowself
22nd December 2017, 00:49
All that blah blah he's going on about. From the comments on Be Scofield's FB page his group is under investigation by the police. Apparently Be Scofield spent an hour with a detective and is now sharing his departure with them.
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https://www.facebook.com/be.scofield
Wind
22nd December 2017, 02:20
Well that explains a lot. :facepalm:
https://i.imgur.com/lZlAg2p.png
Jayke
22nd December 2017, 10:42
I hope that Bentinho would man up and return to planet Earth from his ego trip, but the cynical part me doesn't see that happening anytime soon. I'll be glad if I am proven wrong.
Here's Bentinho's last post on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/bentinhomassaro/photos/a.620165461382782.1073741827.191512050914794/1696841920381792/?type=3).
He says that others are projecting, but seems to be doing it himself. Is he taking any responsibility for his actions? I am just seeing a word salad there and I didn't even bother to read through it, because it didn't feel genuine and got bored halfway through. Makes me actually wonder why I wasted my time on this.
Btw, people who are calling out frauds and dangerous people these days in the spiritual community are not "attacking" anyone. If you hate or act violently towards someone even verbally then that's another thing. But I guess you would know about that, right Ben?
That was one long diatribe! I saw 2 short paragraphs where it looked like a kernel of self responsibility may have crept into his thinking, but they were quickly swept away by his blaming everyone else and refusing to look at how his own actions crept into misalignment. A whole lot of judgementally judging other people’s judgementalism. I actually thought he was going to go full Scooby Doo towards the end...”I would’ve gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you pesky kids””It wasn’t me, it was the monkey”
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Hubris begets a fall from grace. Maybe the Kalki Avatar is manifesting at this time.
WalterBosley
22nd December 2017, 18:50
As much as I don't like the guy, I must say I have a problem with the idea of blaming someone who uses the 'kill yourself' comment within the context of a rant or a presentation or other expression of personal philosophy for the suicide of another person. There is a big difference when it's someone who privately tells someone else to kill himself (like the cult situation in San Diego or Jonestown where it was facilitated on site), but in a public forum context I think it's asinine to blame the person who says it in the course of a general commentary. And yes I've known people who have killed themselves so I'm not gonna bicker over this. It's my position.
Wind
22nd December 2017, 22:49
As much as I don't like the guy, I must say I have a problem with the idea of blaming someone who uses the 'kill yourself' comment within the context of a rant or a presentation or other expression of personal philosophy for the suicide of another person. There is a big difference when it's someone who privately tells someone else to kill himself (like the cult situation in San Diego or Jonestown where it was facilitated on site), but in a public forum context I think it's asinine to blame the person who says it in the course of a general commentary. And yes I've known people who have killed themselves so I'm not gonna bicker over this. It's my position.
Were you referring to this forum or the Facebook discussion where the video was posted? If it was my message then I must apologize, I edited that part out because on a second thought felt that it was too much and out of context. I only read that one follower of Bentinho killed themselves, but I don’t know in what circumstances that happened.
WalterBosley
22nd December 2017, 22:59
Oh, not your posts but I did hear the comment elsewhere and have before. I was speaking mostly generally because that idea comes up these days. My understanding of this situation is that Benheehooty had a personal association with the deceased follower and that it was more of a direct influence than merely seeing a video or attending one of the bozo's talks.
As much as I don't like the guy, I must say I have a problem with the idea of blaming someone who uses the 'kill yourself' comment within the context of a rant or a presentation or other expression of personal philosophy for the suicide of another person. There is a big difference when it's someone who privately tells someone else to kill himself (like the cult situation in San Diego or Jonestown where it was facilitated on site), but in a public forum context I think it's asinine to blame the person who says it in the course of a general commentary. And yes I've known people who have killed themselves so I'm not gonna bicker over this. It's my position.
Were you referring to this forum or the Facebook discussion where the video was posted? If it was my message then I must apologize, I edited that part out because on a second thought felt that it was too much and out of context. I only read that one follower of Bentinho killed themselves, but I don’t know in what circumstances that happened.
Shadowself
22nd December 2017, 23:01
Valuing your life kills you. Valuing your death makes you come alive! ~ Bentinho Massaro
http://www.bentinhomassaro.com/read/how-looking-forward-to-death-improves-life
Those people who have developed an acute awareness of their imminent death can see that this life is a meaningless game that we can make entirely our own, according to our purpose and Soul's intentions. We can make this life so much more incredible and worthwhile when we stop giving it so much significance. See it for what it is: an expression of your soul.
When you give the vehicle through which you came here to express yourself more significance (survival, safety, comfort, security) than why you came here (to live freely, fully, and to give, bust paradigms, love, teach, and learn), you have begun dying.
This is why longevity practices and learning about the body can only benefit us so much: ultimately the best way to stay young forever, is to understand your particular intention for being here and by prioritizing your soul's purpose for this life over the vehicle which you created to express that purpose.
"Look into taking care of the body and its circumstances all you want, you will find nothing but the inevitability of death, missed freedom, and a misplacement of priority."
~
Your body is the pen with which you can write your ode to the One Infinite Creator. Do not live this life for the sake of the pen and its maintenance, live it for the purpose that birthed it, for the hand that can write its ode.
Die into your golden Self, your Spirit, the Infinite Creator. Surrender. Fall backwards. Know God.
Now what are you going to do today? What will you choose?
Infinite love,
Bentinho
Jayke
22nd December 2017, 23:17
In his last Facebook post, he mentions that he’ll be fading into the background (after getting chased out of town) and instead of having a big flock of sheep of his own, he’ll instead focus on teaching his best students how to be better shepherds. Well this is what he thinks about sheep...
“the more you become a lion or lioness and absorb and digest the sheep around you and spit them out…consumption is love.”
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I was going to post that maybe we’d been too harsh with our criticism, so went back to the original article to see if it was a psy-op style hit piece. Problem for Bentinho is that most of the points made are backed up by screenshots of his Facebook posts and videos that, regardless of whether they’re taken out of context or not, still paint an ugly picture.
So I was going to have mercy and say he wasn’t so bad, but now I’m even more convinced that the guy is just a genuine d**k.
Shadowself
22nd December 2017, 23:26
Apparently Brent (the young man who committed suicide) told a friend: "He said there's some amazing things he's been assigned to do on the other side."
Bentinho sounds like a Jonestown in the making.
Innocent Warrior
23rd December 2017, 01:07
Just going to slip this article in here for anyone interested.
Cult Influence Tactics
From my perspective as a long-time student of influence, let me state--with disappointment--that I can find nothing magic, supernatural, fantastic, or even extraordinary in the way that members are attracted to and kept in cults. I'm as fascinated with "magic bullet" theories as anyone, and yet I can find almost nothing in the cultist's repertoire that isn't already in the social influence literature.
I'm reminded of an old German education teacher I had in college who also happened to be a magician. He would sometimes entertain us with an unexpected magic trick during class. If you happened to compliment him on his ability, he'e mumble, "Keine Hexerei, nur Behändigskraft." Which he taught me means: "No magic, just craftsmanship." And that is exactly the case with cultic master manipulators like Applewhite, pictured to the right. They use a powerful mix of tactics--an unethical craftsmanship of influence, if you will--the great majority of which are widely known and studied by social psychologists. No magic, just craftsmanship.
Full article HERE (http://www.workingpsychology.com/cult2.html). See second page for information on how to recognise cult influence and how to defend against it.
Mike
23rd December 2017, 04:05
Look familiar. This came to my attention quite by accident. I knew this guy reminded me of somebody......
https://media1.giphy.com/media/VtYzoUfAcCSXe/giphy.gif
(the incomparable Jim Carrey as 'The Cable Guy')
Listen to Benito speak - there are the subtle yet lingering after-effects of a massive effort to remove what was once an obviously pronounced lisp(just like the cable guy). I am not mocking the man for that! It's just that the look and the speech are so uncannily similar.
Bill Ryan
23rd December 2017, 04:12
This might fit somewhere, too. :)
https://indy100.com/article/psychopath-test-hare-checklist-coworkers-signs-symptoms-8122846
6 Signs your Coworker is a Psychopath
Psychopath is a term casually thrown around, but it actually has a pretty strict definition.
To be classified as a psychopath you must meet a certain set of criteria as defined by the Hare Psychopathy Checklist.
There are 20 traits associated and evaluated to determine a PCL-R score.
glib and superficial charm
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
need for stimulation
pathological lying
cunning and manipulativeness
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioural controls
sexual promiscuity
early behaviour problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility for own actions
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release
criminal versatility
So here are a few indicators to look for:
1. They're confident
Way too confident. Irrationally confident.
Dr. William Hirstein wrote in Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopath-0):
The PCL describes sociopaths as possessing a 'grandiose sense of self worth.'
Cleckley speaks frequently of the boastfulness of his patients.
Hare (1993) describes an imprisoned sociopath who believed he was a world class swimmer
2. Lying/Insincerity
In a 1941 case (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/The_Mask_of_Sanity) a father described his psychopath daughter's behaviour as follows:
I can't understand the girl, no matter how hard I try.
It's not that she seems bad or exactly that she means to do wrong.
She can lie with the straightest face, and after she's found in the most outlandish lies she still seems perfectly easy in her own mind.
3. Egocentricity
Hervey M. Cleckle, the psychiatrist, described this in 1941 (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/The_Mask_of_Sanity) as a...
...pathologic egocentricity [and incapacity for love].
He did so in a seminal work describing psychopathy through a series of interviews with patients in a locked institution.
This above-quoted definition made it into his "clinical profile" describing 16 behavioural traits he saw as defining a psychopath.
4. Great at conversation
There's a mask that has to fall. They're used to holding a conversation and they're used to making people amenable to their wishes.
Robert Hare, the creator of the psychopathy checklist, wrote in Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath):
Psychopaths are often voluble and verbally facile. They can be amusing and entertaining conversationalists, ready with a clever comeback, and are able to tell unlikely but convincing stories that cast themselves in a good light. They can be very effective in presenting themselves well and are often very likable and charming.
One of my raters described an interview she did with a prisoner: 'I sat down and took out my clipboard,' she said, 'and the first thing this guy told me was what beautiful eyes I had.'
'He managed to work quite a few compliments on my appearance into the interview, so by the time I wrapped things up, I was feeling unusually… well, pretty. I'm a wary person, especially on the job, and can usually spot a phony. When I got back outside, I couldn't believe I'd fallen for a line like that.'
5. Lack of Empathy
A psychopath usually has a profound lack of empathy. They construct a mental and emotional facade of a person.
As one of the final paragraphs of American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis reads:
There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed.
This sort of reading of a projection of a person is supported by Robert Hare, again in Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath):
They are completely indifferent to the rights and suffering of family and strangers alike. If they do maintain ties, it is only because they see family members as possessions. One of our subjects allowed her boyfriend to sexually molest her five-year-old daughter because "he wore me out. I wasn't ready for more sex that night." The woman found it hard to understand why the authorities took her child into care.
6. A short temper
A short fuse is another symptom of a lack of empathy, but it is upheld by poor behavioural control.
They tend to be impulsive and can respond aggressively to innocuous perceived slights.
Hare recounts (https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath) an incident in an institution with a psychopath:
For example, an inmate in line for dinner was accidentally bumped by another inmate, whom he proceeded to beat senseless. The attacker then stepped back into line as if nothing had happened.
Despite the fact that he faced solitary confinement as punishment for the infraction, his only comment when asked to explain himself was, 'I was pissed off. He stepped into my space. I did what I had to do.'
Innocent Warrior
23rd December 2017, 05:13
So a psychopath is essentially a human devoid of love?
Flash
23rd December 2017, 05:25
So a psychopath is essentially a human devoid of love?
Although you are right, I think it is more than that. For some psychopaths, they are humans devoid of soul.
A true absence of love (not hatred but the absence of love) is extremely painful for human beings who have a heart and a soul. There is whole lineages like that.
Mike
23rd December 2017, 06:03
So a psychopath is essentially a human devoid of love?
I would say so. Everything else on that list are symptoms of that, I think.
Innocent Warrior
23rd December 2017, 07:00
American Psycho looks good, found a PDF if anyone's interested: American Psycho full PDF
(https://fi.ge.pgstatic.net/attachments/31459_98aec97b2c764e6c831f6963f8441f27.pdf)
Gemma13
23rd December 2017, 08:00
In Bentinho’s recent Facebook Post he predicts his “retirement” from being in the spotlight (no doubt due to his outing) and his handing over “business as usual” to his faithful group leaders.
https://www.facebook.com/bentinhomassaro/photos/a.620165461382782.1073741827.191512050914794/1696841920381792/?type=3
I have a lot of faith in this group of emerging leaders who have gone beyond petty reactionism, mediocre occupations and easily manipulated make-belief.
This group of emerging leaders have made me feel like I can retire the way I have been teaching up to this point, and finally begin shifting my focus to generating more leaders out of all the 'followers' currently exposed to my channel. It feels like the first stage of my work has been accomplished, and it is time to shift gears.
Ryan Brown and Luuk Moelker could well be two of the emerging “public profile leaders” who will take over more from Bentinho in his Academy until Bentinho feels it is safe for him to go back in the water – so worth keeping a watchful eye on his movements over the ensuing months/year.
http://www.bentinhomassaro.com/private-sessions/
http://www.bentinhomassaro.com/ryanbrown
FYI: Ryan Brown also works with Ronja Sebastian – feminine embodiment, ecstatic sensual awakening, yogic dance, etc.
http://ronjasebastian.com/
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• Goal setting – the Feminine way (you’ll love this one)
• How to get clear, productive and creative – in a way that honors your nature
• Tap into your inner genius…
These principles and practices have allowed me to go from being tense, fearful and closed down, to open, sensual and deeply receptive for pleasure.
For most of my life I was struggling with myself, with relationships (or the lack of them) and I was convinced that no one would ever be attracted to me, let alone want to be in a relationship with me.
Through understanding and embodying certain principles I suddenly attracted more men than I could handle. It was stunningly simple.
And before you ask: no, it wasn’t just any men, but the deep, loving, present ones that women usually envision when they ask the question “do these men actually exist??”
(And if that’s your question, then the answer is: yes they absolutely do. And in the Booty Camp I’ll share with you how to attract them. Or invoke those qualities in the man you’re already with.)
This. Stuff. Works.
I’ll also share with you about what sex, flow and energy has to do with money – and how to create relaxed success on your terms.
One important caveat though:
When I say stunningly simple I don’t necessarily mean easy. Only sign up for this course if your longing is strong enough to carry you through. It definitely takes trust, courage and a willingness to free fall…
+ 2 Bonus workshops
together with a select group of conscious men
– lead by Ronja Sebastian & Ryan D Brown
Bentinho Massaro about Ryan D Brown:
If you want to integrate my teachings into your own practical every-day life, I highly recommend making use of the skills, and depth of experience that my main facilitator and close friend, Ryan Brown offers.
He was already an awesomely awake being when I first met him 3 years ago, but has ever since soaked himself in my teachings which he says is now his preferred paradigm of seeing and experiencing the world, understanding himself, and the main practice by which he continues to expand upon his own Consciousness.
Aside from being fearlessly open and willing to ever-more continue his own expansion, he is very good at meeting people wherever they are at on the journey and understanding from personal experience what they are going through and what they might want to accelerate into next, and how to do it most efficiently.
He has a lot of first-hand experience with all kinds of spiritual (and human) backgrounds as well as with my practicing my teachings over the past 3 years, and as such has an unparalleled ability to rephrase and clarify my teachings to people from all walks of life, without deviating much, if at all, from the concepts that I teach. The results, as those who have worked with him one on one within the context of my teachings can attest to, have always been way beyond what was expected.
– Bentinho Massaro
More about Ryan Brown:
Ryan has spent the last two decades exploring Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, and mystic communities throughout the US and abroad, looking past the dogma and connecting to the thread that weaves through them all.
During 12 years of continuous travel, he was largely living a monastic lifestyle steeped in meditation, nature, and inner landscape explorations/awakenings.
Upon his return to the US, Ryan incorporated this inner orientation with the relational aspects of life. He owned a successful marketing company before moving to Boulder, where he worked and facilitated for organizations in the realms of “authentic relating” and present-moment relational practice.
He now serves Bentinho’s community full-time through private sessions and facilitation at retreats and within the Trinfinity Academy.
We are super happy to have Ryan come in and bring his skills and expertise into the Samasati Women’s Temple Deepening Booty Camp!
Wind
23rd December 2017, 20:13
American Psycho looks good, found a PDF if anyone's interested: American Psycho full PDF
(https://fi.ge.pgstatic.net/attachments/31459_98aec97b2c764e6c831f6963f8441f27.pdf)
It's a very disturbing book, but if you can stomach that kind of material then go ahead. I think Christian Bale was scary good in his role in the movie where he was really creepy as that soulless, insane being. Psychopaths are the exact opposites of empaths.
muxfolder
23rd December 2017, 23:21
American Psycho looks good, found a PDF if anyone's interested: American Psycho full PDF
(https://fi.ge.pgstatic.net/attachments/31459_98aec97b2c764e6c831f6963f8441f27.pdf)
It's a very disturbing book, but if you can stomach that kind of material then go ahead. I think Christian Bale was scary good in his role in the movie where he was really creepy as that soulless, insane being. Psychopaths are the exact opposites of empaths.
I read the book when I was 17. It really was quite confusing and rather graphic in details. It was the Finnish translated version but I'm gonna read the original version as well. The movie was quite well done, much better than I expected. I'd say it's impossible to do that book 1:1 as a movie. Just like all those Stephen King books.
Joe from the Carolinas
24th December 2017, 09:27
So a psychopath is essentially a human devoid of love?
Incapable of empathy (I.e. connection with the idea that other people have rights and feelings) and see people as a means to their own ends.
Love for a psychopath is fairly behavioral, where they get what they want consistently.
Gemma13
24th December 2017, 11:01
https://www.facebook.com/bentinhomassaro/?hc_ref=ARTAyO0TqWdY0zHmhXGZqP8PcRXpmc2ykg-NADQXFDQZh6au5ch0xRxQOmGyznGnGI0&fref=nf
POSTED BY BENTINHO 22 DEC 2017 – Complete with Leonardo DiCaprio iconic pic from the Great Gatsby.
Note he’s already onto his next evolution. Followers are falling away because they recognize Bentinho for the delusional con artist that he is. So in another attempt to prove he is right and everyone else is wrong he once again shifts the blame back onto the public because they just can’t recognize true leadership . . . and, of course, a new strategy needs to come into play.
If Bentinho can’t sustain “followers” anymore maybe changing the name will work. His loyal disciples will now be promoted to “leaders” . . . but loyalty to “the god” isn’t free so you will have to pay if you want the promotion.
Those who try to lead without the impersonal intent, clarity and unflinching faith required for true leadership end up doing nothing but controlling and projecting unto their environment and those within it. They then call this 'independent strength' and 'I don't need anyone' but it does little to significantly improve anyone's life including their own, let alone reach the collective in a meaningful way.
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True leadership is rare, and rarely recognized by those in need of leadership. Non-leaders will recognize non-leaders as leaders and shoot down true leaders who could take their civilization to the next level of expression.
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Hence the challenge for communities, countries and the world at large to find harmony; It cannot recognize true leadership. It just squabbles with itself like a bunch of chickens on cocaine. In fact, it rejects true leadership because it does not understand it or know how to recognize it.
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A bunch of misguided and chaotic minds cannot generate harmony without accepting leadership from a harmonious source. Yet in order for those misguided masses to embrace true leadership, they have to first be able to recognize it; which they won't until they are ready to be leaders themselves... You see the predicament humanity faces. It is in a vicious cycle of rejecting the truth and embracing the comfort of ignorance; aka mass behavior. Collective Sheep-Mind.
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I'm currently developing an intense, 6-month leadership program for those truly committed. Two tiers/price points will be made available. A high end tier for a smaller number of people(100 approx) and mid range pricing for a mid-sized group (250-500). Both get access to same content but different levels of personal attention. Both groups/tiers require high level commitment though!
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I haven't felt this aligned about anything I've done in a while. I am taking the community out of the limitation of locality and will help generate true powerhouses online; turning followers into leaders.
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More details coming soon. Do not mistake ego for leadership and do not mistake leadership for ego. Enjoy the challenge of being able to sense the difference. Cheers.
Bentinho Massaro appears to have classic SHUT EYE SYNDROME.
SHUT EYE SYNDROME : “The occupational disease of fraudulence” described by Orson Welles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shut_eye
In the lingo of stage magicians, illusionists, and mentalists, a shut eye is a performer who becomes so adept at the illusion of mind reading that the performer comes to believe that he or she actually possesses psychic powers.
The term was used by film director Orson Welles, a gifted magician, who feared that he would fall victim to the delusion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjPsnfysrp8[/url]
Just swap the word psychic for saviour :thumbsup:
Gemma13
29th December 2017, 04:03
http://mailchi.mp/bentinhomassaro/relocation-to-sedona-and-exciting-updates-from-bentinho-1190229?e=6bf2091855
AN IMPORTANT UPDATE FROM BENTINHO – DEC 2017
For those unaware of recent happenings, please forgive the ultimately unimportant details that follow, but I feel somewhat obligated to update you with some of the 3D details of what has occurred, so that you have some context for the change in direction I'm taking.
The tone of this update becomes more empowering the further down you go. I apologize for its length. Keeping things brief has been something I'm working on, with little to no success thus far ;).
For those not interested in the details, a brief summary:
• Someone with negative intent toward our mission wrote a vile and sensationalist article.
• We received hundreds of hate messages, also from locals in Sedona who wanted us gone.
• Our address and numbers were compromised and we received threats; we no longer felt at home in Sedona.
• We felt an inspiration to leave, travel for a while, be non-local and re-design what I do and how I offer my work to people from the ground up.
• I will be shifting my work to focus on those truly committed, in smaller groups, and mostly online.
• There are only two public/general retreats left for you to attend; no new retreats are currently being planned.
• Register for these final two retreats (+ 1 special event) further down in this email.
• I am starting a 6-month online coaching program to help generate leaders, shepherds, mirrors and civilization upgraders (more info on this near end of the long text below).
• Any amount of negativity can be turned into an empowered reality that benefits all. It is whatever you say it is.
• Though my vehicles/bodies are under high pressure and have taken a beating, I am grateful and more aligned to my purpose and reason for being incarnate than ever.
• Excited for my/our/your future timelines. Thank you.
The meaningless 3D details - what happened? (a couple of extracts)
We took off without telling anybody where we went. Which felt truly great and like the beginning of a new, non-linear adventure for the few of us.
[…]
This whole situation could have easily made me/us less committed to the vision of an awakened humanity, but instead—by staying true no matter what—I/we managed to alchemize this fun challenge into a higher level of commitment to this mission.
[…]
We will be traveling for a while, not settling in any particular place, and I will shift pretty much all of my work to being done exclusively online, and focus almost exclusively on those highly committed, ready to become shepherds, mirrors, civilization upgraders and leaders.
[…]
That's why I am currently designing a 6-month coaching program with the intent to generate Great Purity, Benevolent Empowerment and Unparalleled Leadership in those who participate. I wish to generate Civilization Upgraders.
[…]
I once made a bold statement with a truthful intention, saying that it would take only 10 beings who attain the same level of fearlessness, clarity, awareness, sense of mission and empowerment as I have, to permanently shift this planet into a much higher version. And I still believe this is technically true. That's all it would take.
I intend to help generate over 100 of these beings over the course of the next five years. Just for good measure.
Thanks to citizen watchdogs speaking out Sedona put a stop to this cult leader to protect individuals in their community.
Online communities need to stay vigilant as Bentinho Massaro weaves his way deceptively into homes via the internet before feeling secure enough to resettle and set up shop in another physical location.
This is a game to Bentinho. He loves the challenges as it gives him the opportunity to strive to come up with new keys (of manipulation and deceit) to get him to another level! Losing is not on his agenda.
The only way Bentinho can lose his game is when his willing participants – the pawns and characters he seduces into his game – refuse to play anymore!
Gemma13
29th December 2017, 04:22
http://www.bentinhomassaro.com/read/the-ripping-apart-of-entangled-realities-into-parallel-realities
THE RIPPING APART OF THE COLLECTIVE INTO PARALLEL REALITIES – 27 DEC 2017
For those struggling with their loyalties to BENTINHO MASSARO please read his language carefully in his latest articles!
Bentinho is damage controlling his outing as a cult leader and has reinvented the next phase of his “mission” by cherry picking and spinning from multiple sets of information i.e. cosmology, spiritual guru’s, etc etc.
To separate you from your voice of intelligent reasoning Bentinho is using “the world is splitting into parallel realities” spin and is beckoning and seducing his followers into his fantasy NEW WORLD – and you will have to let go of all your current friends and family members.
THIS IS CLASSIC CULT LEADER SPIN! Please do some cult research to discover for yourselves that Bentinho is reinvigorated with his counter defense argument/spin as he is not going to let go of his self-proclaimed god-status and lucrative business model that supports it.
This individual is psychologically impaired and all those who feed his illness by supporting him are enabling him to continue his psychologically dangerous manipulations on others.
Please try and obtain a neutral perspective long enough to read his carefully contrived spin.
I'm lucky enough to have done as much work on myself as I have that I am able to navigate complex and challenging waters with relative ease and be able to step willingly into what is asked of me without attachment to my former realities, comfort or self-image.
As a result, my experience is generally one of great and deep joy and powerful clarity/insight whenever big changes pass through my awareness. Whatever comes, I accept and navigate from there in the most exciting possible way, ever re-generating my reality from Source, and from scratch, with each opportunity and change in the tides.
This keeps me nimble and malleable, able to anticipate and flow with the highest benefit. I recommend you practice the same capacity of trusting life and not identifying with any of the changes, your body, mind, circumstances and even relationships. The last one being, admittedly, the most challenging.
BUT: letting go of even the most long-standing relationships, family members and friendships isn't necessarily a bad thing, it can be a most beautiful, forgiving and loving experience for you. Even if it isn't experienced that way on their end.
If it helps, you can think of it as 'setting each other free' rather than 'letting go.'
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Whereas in the past, most of these intensified nexus points or 'psychic winds' might have given you a preview of what does not truly belong in your reality any longer; they generally allowed you to continue to co-exist with those non-consonant vibrations for a bit longer.
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The vibrations will be too pristine and distinct in each reality to be able to continue to interact in any meaningful way with the others. Like parallel FM channels are not received by the same radio clearly simultaneously. A choice as to which reality you attune to has to be made in each moment, but is being forced upon each entity of this collective in an unapologetically loud manner, now.
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This is truly a beautiful and once in a lifetime opportunity in many ways. Seize it. You deserve it. And you have all the guidance you need to take a leap of faith into trusting the changes.
In practical terms, this means you will likely 'lose' certain friends, family members, or communities that you are used to be a part of, and gain others.
[…]
"Resistance truly is futile at this timing, lol. And undesirable, really. And illogical, even."
What Bentinho's “emotional mind control/NLP” article is saying, is: resist your nagging voice of logic and wisdom that is telling you to STOP Because Something is Very, Very Wrong with Following Benhinho Massaro.
"One thing that may happen is that you'll suddenly meet or learn to more clearly recognize who's truly part of your cosmic tribe; those with the same calling/mission/vision."
This is how these cult leaders seduce – they tap into loneliness, confusion, longings, that everyone experiences by offering false promises and hope.
"The time to attempt to 'reach everybody' may be of the past... Or perhaps not yet entirely. We'll see. This is still unclear to me.
Allow those who are non-consonant with your preferred reality to fall away from your reality naturally, with love and faith that they too are taken care of by the infinite intelligence.
Be grateful for the time and learning you chose to co-create together, and forgive them and yourself for any and all inevitable learnings, or as humans would call it 'mistakes' that may have occurred between you."
This is a precursor statement that is warning you that you will be part of a cult that is cut off from the rest of the world should you choose to continue to believe, worship and follow Bentinho. If you get to that stage it will be ever harder for you to withdraw and recover.
The rewards he is offering you are fantasies. The losses you will endure to chase these fantasies, are not!
Flash
29th December 2017, 04:49
Yep, all the marks of a cult, all of them. He has forgotten the words love, kindness, empathy.
From what I know, none of the great prophets ever abandoned their mom, wife, children by witholding their support.
Shadowself
29th December 2017, 12:55
The only way Bentinho can lose his game is when his willing participants – the pawns and characters he seduces into his game – refuse to play anymore!
Or until the next person gets hurt.
We will be traveling for a while, not settling in any particular place, and I will shift pretty much all of my work to being done exclusively online, and focus almost exclusively on those highly committed, ready to become shepherds, mirrors, civilization upgraders and leaders.
[…]
That's why I am currently designing a 6-month coaching program with the intent to generate Great Purity, Benevolent Empowerment and Unparalleled Leadership in those who participate. I wish to generate Civilization Upgraders.
By shifting the blame on his new core "Sheperds" will not release him of the responsibility which is I'm certain upper most in his mind. What a jerk! I've not seen such blatant cult activity... and he's not ashamed to display it.
I once made a bold statement with a truthful intention, saying that it would take only 10 beings who attain the same level of fearlessness, clarity, awareness, sense of mission and empowerment as I have, to permanently shift this planet into a much higher version. And I still believe this is technically true. That's all it would take.
Narcissist!
Shadowself
29th December 2017, 15:41
Be Scofield penned a follow up article of how she got behind the scenes. It's quite the read.
Tech Bro Guru: Behind the Scenes (https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-behind-the-scenes-2d832e199cab)
Wind
29th December 2017, 16:38
"I didn’t know at the time but Bentinho had often referred to himself as Shiva. How perfect. Shakti, the fierce divine feminine comes in and takes out Shiva. A sign of our times."
This is gold and kudos to her.
Gemma13
31st December 2017, 06:58
Be Scofield penned a follow up article of how she got behind the scenes. It's quite the read.
Tech Bro Guru: Behind the Scenes (https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-behind-the-scenes-2d832e199cab)
Good expo article on the infiltration :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7F5adL-S50&feature=youtu.be[/url]
BENTINHO UPDATE 30 DEC 2017
You’re either ready for the so called 3rd density shift to 4th density . . . or you’re not. Collective negative de-toxing going on in the past few weeks to explain all the crap Bentinho and followers have been experiencing so he says just stay strong and keep the faith.
He tells followers not to fall into the trap of taking things personal and coming to conclusions.
@10:15 If you come to conclusions you're screwed and you will go insane, mad, manic, bipolar, etc.
If you don’t come to conclusions there’s this beautiful flow of acceptance that constantly purges and heals and really prepares you for 4th density.
More scare tactics and con to get shepherds to stay loyal.
I believe he even claimed in one of his blogs that he’s surpassed 7th, or 8th density – phew . . . hierarchical leadership con at its best!
Billy
31st December 2017, 10:43
Good for the folks in Sedona for his unexpected quick departure. Run rabbit, run run run. :blackwidow:
WalterBosley
31st December 2017, 21:33
Every time a Screw Age con man gets his tit caught in a ringer, he's always gotta chalk it up to 'something shifting in the universe' and all the buzzword stuff. The only density happening here is that of the skulls of people who would follow someone like this. Now here's my question: Is his hair unkempt and his need for a shave a contrived image for sympathy? Or could his racket be falling apart and we're seeing signs of his breakdown? (Which wouldn't concern me in the slightest).
Foxie Loxie
31st December 2017, 21:36
Why even waste your time on him, Walter?! Surely you have better things to do! :bigsmile: Happy New Year! :Party:
WalterBosley
1st January 2018, 08:27
I want to enjoy his fall, if it is one.
Why even waste your time on him, Walter?! Surely you have better things to do! :bigsmile: Happy New Year! :Party:
RunningDeer
1st January 2018, 12:52
I want to enjoy his fall, if it is one.
Why even waste your time on him, Walter?! Surely you have better things to do! :bigsmile: Happy New Year! :Party:
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/monster-smile.gif
People are catching on to his shenanigans. Bentinho Massaro @ SocialBlade.com (https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/bentinhomassaro)
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/monster-dance.gif
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/Bentinho-subs.jpg
Monthly Views and Sub
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dark-Journalist/Bentinho-views.jpg
Gemma13
1st January 2018, 14:56
Hopefully we will see more of a fall of the charts in the very near future too :clapping:
And even though the likes of Bentinho are small fish frauds their outing and potential removal from hurting more people is significantly important imo. A majority of citizens don’t have resources to go hard at the big guns but every brick in the wall counts . . . and it certainly is encouraging to witness a win now and again when these sociopaths are exposed.
WalterBosley
1st January 2018, 18:54
And I don't mean to be 'bad vibe guy' but it is indeed good when con men go down and go down hard. Maybe that's why carrying a badge for a few years appealed to me, I liked to see bad guys go down. There are good people being taken by these guys, in some cases ruining their lives, and I have more sympathy for victims than for those who take advantage of them.
Mike
1st January 2018, 19:15
Every time a Screw Age con man gets his tit caught in a ringer, he's always gotta chalk it up to 'something shifting in the universe' and all the buzzword stuff. The only density happening here is that of the skulls of people who would follow someone like this. Now here's my question: Is his hair unkempt and his need for a shave a contrived image for sympathy? Or could his racket be falling apart and we're seeing signs of his breakdown? (Which wouldn't concern me in the slightest).
yep he just needs the milk to cap off the sympathy plea in style...
https://i.imgur.com/52QsSza.jpg
Wind
1st January 2018, 19:28
And I don't mean to be 'bad vibe guy' but it is indeed good when con men go down and go down hard. Maybe that's why carrying a badge for a few years appealed to me, I liked to see bad guys go down. There are good people being taken by these guys, in some cases ruining their lives, and I have more sympathy for victims than for those who take advantage of them.
It's only a shame that the (corrupt) politicians, bankers and others crooks are not going down so easily, but hey... It's not a fair world.
Caliban
2nd January 2018, 01:50
Be Scofield penned a follow up article of how she got behind the scenes. It's quite the read.
Tech Bro Guru: Behind the Scenes (https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-behind-the-scenes-2d832e199cab)
I think she did a great job on this and I appreciate her passion and sense of mission to help people release themselves from a false egocentric guru. However, after reading the follow up, something bothered me about her methods. She taped people's conversations without them knowing and then posted them online. They're still online. In some states that's not legal. But even in those where it is, is it ethical? I know I'd feel emotionally ripped off if someone taped me and then posted our conversation online without my knowledge and permission, especially about something very personal. I mean, he's not killing or kidnapping people here. She should have shown these people more respect in that regard, notwithstanding the weird s--t they think about this guy.
Innocent Warrior
2nd January 2018, 02:49
Be Scofield penned a follow up article of how she got behind the scenes. It's quite the read.
Tech Bro Guru: Behind the Scenes (https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-behind-the-scenes-2d832e199cab)
I think she did a great job on this and I appreciate her passion and sense of mission to help people release themselves from a false egocentric guru. However, after reading the follow up, something bothered me about her methods. She taped people's conversations without them knowing and then posted them online. They're still online. In some states that's not legal. But even in those where it is, is it ethical? I know I'd feel emotionally ripped off if someone taped me and then posted our conversation online without my knowledge and permission, especially about something very personal. I mean, he's not killing or kidnapping people here. She should have shown these people more respect in that regard, notwithstanding the weird s--t they think about this guy.
Agree 100%. And what's with messing with them to see how much she could get away with telling them? Not my style, no need to be a b*tch about it.
WalterBosley
2nd January 2018, 23:25
Changing their names would suffice. As far as her doing it, it's fine. Context matters.
Be Scofield penned a follow up article of how she got behind the scenes. It's quite the read.
Tech Bro Guru: Behind the Scenes (https://medium.com/@bescofield/tech-bro-guru-behind-the-scenes-2d832e199cab)
I think she did a great job on this and I appreciate her passion and sense of mission to help people release themselves from a false egocentric guru. However, after reading the follow up, something bothered me about her methods. She taped people's conversations without them knowing and then posted them online. They're still online. In some states that's not legal. But even in those where it is, is it ethical? I know I'd feel emotionally ripped off if someone taped me and then posted our conversation online without my knowledge and permission, especially about something very personal. I mean, he's not killing or kidnapping people here. She should have shown these people more respect in that regard, notwithstanding the weird s--t they think about this guy.
findingneo
4th January 2018, 00:52
I wonder if there is a race of beings that remotely fits the character traits of a narcissist?
marique3652
4th January 2018, 02:52
This is my only exposure to this guy, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone more sincere that what I've seen here. Just a casual opinion.
That is what the followers of Jim Jones and Marshal Applewhite said....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub5Hl8Xi1kU
Rats, it appears that the video has been taken down. Wished I could have watched it.
Shadowself
5th January 2018, 13:08
Before Be Scofield there was Gaby Petris...
I was going over this thread this morning and noticed one of my posts had a dead video. Upon further investigation I noticed that Gaby's youtube channel has been taken down from which my post came.
Be Scofield mentions in her last article:
The first thing I did when I got home from the party was message my close friend and colleague Matthew Remski who has written about cults. “You know anything about this guy Bentinho Massaro?” It was 2am on Saturday. I had already found an article written by an ex-member Gaby Petris called “The Cult Promise of Bentinho Massaro.” I sent it to him. “Not good” I said.
So I found Gaby's blog and ran into several articles on Bentinho's cult (and make no mistake it is a cult) found the article Be Scofield is referencing in her article. I will post the link to the article but I would also like to quote a paragraph and say it's any wonder someone under the influence of this cult would commit suicide!
He has on a number of occasions told his group of the possibility of his leaving this "dense" and "heavy" human dimension. "I don't like to brag" he says to his followers - but if they had experienced the things he has - "most of you would have committed suicide". He has a "rather clear sense of when I will depart". "The projection of my true being in this world will be maintained for not too many more moon cycles to serve as a bridge to jump to a new reality within your own consciousness". "I am moving further away from the physical state". "[Name withheld] by all means join me in this frequency and let the body transform. See you anew soon". Massaro says he has been called to this "planetary plane" to give "clear guidance into the Light".
Bridge to jump! Is that not how the recent suicide happened?!?!
This article is worth the read:
http://gabypetris.blogspot.com/2015/03/blog-post_24.html?view=magazine
So....Bentino and cult followers (Corey Goode included)....You may have taken away Gaby's youtube channel but you have not taken away her/his voice!
Foxie Loxie
5th January 2018, 14:35
Nice to hear YOUR voice, Shadowself! :heart:
WalterBosley
6th January 2018, 00:21
I wish we could get through to people who think they need to follow someone else to find what they're looking for within and without. I lay some blame on this goddamned 'ethic' of human 'unworthiness' and the push push push toward a collective singular consciousness that is so popular with many. And when I use that word 'goddamned' I am speaking in terms of spiritual condemnation because just as strongly as any Screw Ager who believes in this collective identity nonsense will defend their position, I'll defend mine: Only a tyrannical negative power/entity would want all the distinctly individual souls that exist to blend into one. It is a LIE that enlightenment and advancement comes the more we surrender our identities. Maniacal UNHEALTHY ego bastards like Bentinho seek their followers to subjugate their identities and kneel before his own. The best gurus send you out into the world and encourage independence and ultimately withdraw from you because, at some point, you MUST be on your own. Bentinho knows how the suicide of his follower will look and he's run off like a sniveling little wimp. He seriously needs his days in the wilderness. Alone. On a REAL pilgrimage of the soul -- a true ordeal. I despise him and all his kind, and it doesn't waste an ounce of my 'love vibe energy'. That's crap, too, this 'all angels and no devils' brand of looking at the world. It's time the entire Screw Age guru industry took a look at itself because this kind of crap has happened too much. Now get off my lawn, you danged kids!
RunningDeer
6th January 2018, 01:55
I wish we could get through to people who think they need to follow someone else to find what they're looking for within and without. I lay some blame on this goddamned 'ethic' of human 'unworthiness' and the push push push toward a collective singular consciousness that is so popular with many. And when I use that word 'goddamned' I am speaking in terms of spiritual condemnation because just as strongly as any Screw Ager who believes in this collective identity nonsense will defend their position, I'll defend mine: Only a tyrannical negative power/entity would want all the distinctly individual souls that exist to blend into one. It is a LIE that enlightenment and advancement comes the more we surrender our identities. Maniacal UNHEALTHY ego bastards like Bentinho seek their followers to subjugate their identities and kneel before his own. The best gurus send you out into the world and encourage independence and ultimately withdraw from you because, at some point, you MUST be on your own. Bentinho knows how the suicide of his follower will look and he's run off like a sniveling little wimp. He seriously needs his days in the wilderness. Alone. On a REAL pilgrimage of the soul -- a true ordeal. I despise him and all his kind, and it doesn't waste an ounce of my 'love vibe energy'. That's crap, too, this 'all angels and no devils' brand of looking at the world. It's time the entire Screw Age guru industry took a look at itself because this kind of crap has happened too much. Now get off my lawn, you danged kids!
One more chapter to read and will no doubt reread it in a few weeks as I do with Endall Beall and Mrs. Endall Beall’s other books. Some of what you've posted dovetails with this author’s message and many of their other books. It’s the latest in the series published, November, 2017.
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Summary: (https://www.amazon.com/No-Trespassing-Transcending-Psychology-Cognition/dp/1541264185/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1515201381&sr=1-1&keywords=endall+beall)
This is volume 8 of the Second Cognition series of books. Where the foundation was laid for a Common Sense Revolution in the standalone volume, The Common Sense Revolution. No Trespassing: Transcending the Psychology of the Gods takes the reader down the road to understanding why the human psyche is still controlled today by forces outside ourselves, and is still living in a world created by the neurotic psychopathy of ancient so-called gods, and the effects of the hapiym (*egoic) mind virus. Humanity has never been in charge of its own destiny, and this book provides insights into what we can do as a species to break from these ancient psychological programs that control our consciousness, and set a more healthy direction for human advancement than being stuck in repetitive patterns of thought and history.
T A B L E...O F...C O N T E N T S
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* (egoic) my addition
Definition: Hapiym - Hacker Program in Your Mind - The Hapiym mind virus has controlled our consciousness since our species was created.
WalterBosley
6th January 2018, 02:10
Uh, hmmm. OK.
Mike
6th January 2018, 02:22
Uh, hmmm. OK.
hey Walter, for what it's worth, I've read several of the Beall books too and they're quite good (and very much in line with your thinking here). the emphasis is on personal responsibility and practical self improvement. one of their titles is 'demystifying the mystical', which pretty much sums up the overall msg.
RunningDeer
6th January 2018, 03:04
Uh, hmmm. OK.
hey Walter, for what it's worth, I've read several of the Beall books too and they're quite good (and very much in line with your thinking here). the emphasis is on personal responsibility and practical self improvement. one of their titles is 'demystifying the mystical', which pretty much sums up the overall msg.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/reading.gif Yes, two thumbs up for Demystifying the Mystical.
“Demystifying the Mystical: Exposing the Myths of the Mystical and Supernatural
by Providing Solutions to the Spirit Path and Human Evolution,” by: Endall Beall.
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Summary: (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1512135208/ref=cm_sw_su_dp)
This third installment of The Evolution of Consciousness series walks the reader through the hard processes required to advance their own cognitive awareness. The book is hard-hitting truth and it is not designed for the timid where spirituality is concerned. If the reader is not totally dedicated to understanding and achieving a higher state of cognitive awareness without the need of mystical or supernatural answers, then this book is not for you. This volume is written strictly for those most serious in understanding spiritual advancement. This book is not written for the spiritual novice, nor is it written for those who want to continue to engage in fanciful ideas of the mystical or magical where spiritual understanding is concerned. This work is for the most serious-minded individuals on their personal spiritual path to higher cognitive awareness. This book offers serious criticisms of the present system of cognition that rules the consciousness of all humanity.
The author identifies the root cause of all that ails humanity and he provides workable solutions for those who are totally pragmatic and dedicated in their approach to spiritual understanding. This book is going to anger most readers at some point as the information unfolds, but if one has the stamina and the personal courage to face the information presented, the reader will find what it presents is an invaluable source of information and spiritual tools to help their personal conscious advancement. This book is designed to remove all the mysterious myths of mysticism and the supernatural that permeate all religions and spiritual studies. If the reader feels they can't handle having all these myths exposed, then this book is not for you. It is only for the most courageous of readers because it exposes every myth, even the myths the reader believes about themselves.
Gemma13
6th January 2018, 04:41
https://www.facebook.com/bentinhomassaro/posts/1714043931994924
. . . and here it comes the delusional support from one of Bentinho’s closest and therefore most manipulated mind controlled supporters, his girlfriend.
Within this spiel of gushing justification for Cult Leader Guru Bentinho, which is classic addiction speak 101, there are six words which aptly describe Bentinho’s mind control:
“Bentinho has been my personal mirror, ….”
which is trying to imply that Bentinho has a superhuman gift to be able to see deeply inside the essence of another to do it, rather than do it oneself].
Bentinho then fakes genuine values of compassion, understanding and support to prove his “superhuman trick” i.e. Bentinho sees all my faults, he doesn’t judge me for them, and he knows how to help me correct them, blah blah.
What this actually describes is Bentinho’s Psychological Projection!
Psychological projection can be established as a means of obtaining or justifying certain actions that would normally be found atrocious or heinous. This often means projecting false accusations, information, etc., onto an individual for the sole purpose of maintaining a self-created illusion.
In other words, whenever Bentinho’s behaviour in his personal relationships is crap he can simply say [everytime], [B]“hey it’s okay, you will get through this, I am just mirroring you! If you want this crap to go away then you need to change. You can fix this, I know you can. When you see me acting in beautiful behaviour toward you, you will know you have succeeded in fixing another one of your faults and are getting to taste the purity that I am.” – [until the next time of course]
Pleeeeaase Bentinho lovers and friends, get out of this mind control sh!t. You are not the cause of Bentinho’s bad behaviour. He is not mirroring you and making great sacrifices by enduring you [and humanity].
Nobody needs a mirror!
It’s a psychological spiritually indoctrinated con that is a gateway for narcissistic sociopaths to exploit counseling professions with an express train to godhood!
Listen to that niggling voice, that nagging deep essence that really is you! There are many who have been where you are and patiently wait for your empowered voices to emerge from within this cult. Voices of experience that can move and learn in a new direction as real saviours to humanity now by helping protect innocents from the dangers of psychological manipulation and mind control – in multiple arenas of society.
WalterBosley
6th January 2018, 04:45
lol, I wasn't sure where it was coming from so I didn't want to get all lit up, lol. But I'll check them out.
Uh, hmmm. OK.
hey Walter, for what it's worth, I've read several of the Beall books too and they're quite good (and very much in line with your thinking here). the emphasis is on personal responsibility and practical self improvement. one of their titles is 'demystifying the mystical', which pretty much sums up the overall msg.
Shadowself
6th January 2018, 16:17
I'm sorry but this half baked high school drop out is a half-wit punk. For anyone to think that the statement: "I don't like to brag" he says to his followers - but if they had experienced the things he has - "most of you would have committed suicide", comprises wisdom is a fool.
Life is a precious thing and should not be taken for granted.
I guarantee you if this punk were faced with staring down the barrel of a gun threatening his life, he'd be begging for his life and peeing his pants at the same time. He's an opportunist.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink..thus you can warn his followers but should they be foolish enough to follow this creep down his road paved in their money they cannot say they were not warned. His words and actions display anything but wisdom.
findingneo
9th January 2018, 03:47
Agreed, Shadowself......you can lead a horse to water and all that.
Anyway, interesting lady. New video out yesterday that many or may not have relevance to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBvbYSlkURI&feature=push-u&attr_tag=r4r63JIbcetYTwkI-6
Hym
9th January 2018, 04:07
I may be penalized for this but I see it as Divine Intervention...
A sign from my Higher Self? My Middle Self? Well, most likely my Lower Self.....Either way,
It must not be a coincidence that I'm watching "Ace Ventura, Pet Detective-When Nature Calls" when I happened upon this thread.
There is balance in this Universe and at times like this, the bite of such piss ants has an antidote when they have been encountered and it is....
Guano.. Generous amounts of Liberally applied Guano.
Yes my friends. Guano it surely is.
May it be spread out where it can do some good.
Hym
9th January 2018, 06:34
Not impressed by an NLP'ing jerk, and I've met some that can actually read your thoughts. Even so, the fact that those who can do so usually means they could be considered royal jerks, certified and imperial in status amongst all who abuse the gifts they misuse.
Example:
Was attracted to a specifically powerful set of writings, compiled into a sacredness. Even though I was around those who apparently were supposed to honor that sacredness by honest, service-full living, they proved, with very few exceptions, to be dishonest, egotistical and outright thieves. I took on a few of the original warrior's lifestyle habits but stayed far away from the group of thieves for some time, even as I missed some good friends.
The little time I spent with them was both good and annoying, since they were, in practice, run by one of those cult leaders from the east, a man who in confidence told my very good friend that he was "the most corrupt man on earth". When I asked my friend what he thought of that statement he said he wasn't impressed. My friend called it a show of false humility.
As it goes I had a once in many lifetimes experience on June 5, 6th of 1984. I was working alone on a job when I realized I was in the nightmare I had every year on that date since I was 3 years old. The orange clouds in the setting sky were my visions come true. This led me back to re-connect with that series of writings and eventually back to the limited company of those friends, until I could purchase the original writings, writings I developed an accurate transliteration system for, to freely share, which I eventually did.
A full two years after this re-connection that was deeper and more insightful than any I had known in this body I went to see my friends after a class the cult leader had held. As I was listening to one of my friends I saw the cult leader walking by. I thought that if there was anything I could thank him for, amongst the overwhelming evidence of his darkness, it would be even the most vague connection of him to those writings.
Without a pause, from my unspoken thought to seeing his guards around him, he forcefully pushed his way past them and the people gathered in between us. He pushed his way up close to me and in a very strong voice said "Do not praise the Donkey that brings the sacred scriptures!"
I agreed. He wasn't even worth a remote connection to anything sacred, or me. The same goes for all of those complicit in his crimes of both material and spiritual intent and criminal practice.
The good to come out of that is that the few times I ever saw him again I would think "Donkey" and then mentally apologize to donkeys for the thought.
I also had a condition of protection, one that I can't explain but one that someone here on Avalon may know about, and it had to do with that cult leader. The few times that I was around him and there was or was not going to be some communication between us there were two times I could not hear his voice. I could hear my voice and the talk of those around me, but I could not hear him. I am thankful for that.
The last example is when me and my friends built a place of prayer, a place where women gather to empower themselves. On the opening day of this space I went up to receive a shawl and some cheap beads (as thanks from friends for the joy of working with volunteers from the community) I was interrupted on my way back to sit down. I was told that the cult leader was speaking to me, but I did not hear him. What he said to me, three years after he called himself a donkey (and again, all apologies to the donkeys out there), was stupid.
I sat back down and lamented at the man not learning a thing and not listening to the prayer I projected before going up in front of that sacredness and my friends. My prayer was only to receive an insight from the sacredness and specifically not any from the cult leader, especially in a setting where none but the sacredness was to be contemplated, absorbed and understood.
DO expect donkeys to learn over a couple of years, but do not expect cult leaders to learn a thing, even when many lifetimes, many warriors and endless saints pass them by.
Gemma13
11th January 2018, 02:37
The good to come out of that is that the few times I ever saw him again I would think "Donkey" and then mentally apologize to donkeys for the thought.
Nice :thumbsup:
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