Secrets Revealed

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Hello Avalon,

As we have been hearing from the far corners of the wind for some years, select secrets are being revealed. Bells are being rung for those with ears to hear. A quiet, pure call has been going out for some time now. Hearts of a certain frequency will respond.

Anyways...

I was shocked to see a full demonstration of a secret form of 'phrul 'khor in this video. To my knowledge, it has never been demonstrated to the uninitiated, let alone filmed. This alone says a lot about the times we live in. I hope you will enjoy this excellent documentary.

You can jump to 39:50 to just watch the demonstration, but I encourage you to take in the entire documentary.

And if you are one who hears, then come. There is work to do. Follow your heart.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFSjxc2Vg14

May all beings be free from suffering.
May all beings be at peace.

[Tam]

You know...something is coming. I don't know what, I don't even know if it will be positive. But I have had this unshakeable, gut feeling that there is something imminent that will forever change mankind, perhaps even erase it. I can't quite put it into words, but it's as if I feel myself waiting for something. The waking world and its distractions seem less and less significant with each passing day.

I really can't describe it. I've never felt this way before. It's so subtle, you can almost forget it, but it never goes away, and only grows louder with each passing week. My whole family feels it too, though not a single one of us have the slightest idea what it is.

My gut, unfortunately, feels that it isn't anything good.Even then, I can't be even halfway sure. But we shall see.

Just wanted to see if anyone else feels this way, and if so, what their 2 cents would be regarding what these bells are ringing about, so to speak.

Thank you for sharing this fascinating documentary. I'll be finishing it as soon as I have some free time on hand :)

[Michelle Marie]

You know...something is coming. I don't know what, I don't even know if it will be positive. But I have had this unshakeable, gut feeling that there is something imminent that will forever change mankind, perhaps even erase it. I can't quite put it into words, but it's as if I feel myself waiting for something. The waking world and its distractions seem less and less significant with each passing day.

I really can't describe it. I've never felt this way before. It's so subtle, you can almost forget it, but it never goes away, and only grows louder with each passing week. My whole family feels it too, though not a single one of us have the slightest idea what it is.

My gut, unfortunately, feels that it isn't anything good.Even then, I can't be even halfway sure. But we shall see.

Just wanted to see if anyone else feels this way, and if so, what their 2 cents would be regarding what these bells are ringing about, so to speak.

Thank you for sharing this fascinating documentary. I'll be finishing it as soon as I have some free time on hand :)

There are two pieces of past perceptions that I've had that seem to fit together. I never put these two things together before, but when I contemplated your question, this is what came up.

1) what used to work for the elitists is disintegrating. operations can't continue...reliant on secrets and lies. Truth is being broadcast to a wider population faster and faster. Disempowerment. Result: backlash.

Once I had a friend who was being manipulated by a master manipulator. A very selfish greedy person. I saw her tactics. She would say something to make my friend feel guilty. Then convince him to make a decision in her favor--do her bidding, if you will. It was a pattern. It happened over and over for years. After I pointed out the manipulation to my friend and how it worked, this friend became empowered to make choices more aligned with his will, rather than to bend to her will. The disempowered one recognized me as the one who "blew the whistle" on her tactics. Her reaction was vengeful, hateful, energetically targeting me. Once her very vibration of her hateful thoughts made me feel extremely nauseous. The lesson I got from this was to be aware of the backlash of those who become disempowered. I had the distinct feeling that this was small scale and that this is also applicable on a large scale.

Now, truth and tactics of the cabal is being revealed. Soon it will be broadcast to the masses. Media is being disempowered, too. Is the backlash coming? (I think it already started -- gloves off, CA fires, weather warfare--hurricanes, earthquakes--disaster relief cover up for covert activities.)

Here's the second thing:

2) several years ago I had a strong premonition: very bad feeling, deep sadness and grief for humanity along with lots of compassion. It was not clear what was coming, just something devastating: like the rug got pulled out from under the vast majority. I hadn't thought about this for a long time, but it just came up recently and I mentioned it on another thread.

Don't know what the premonition was about specifically, but a deep awareness of something coming up.

I'm not sure if this is the same thing you are talking about or feeling, but your intuition will verify that.

Let me know.

I have watched 2/3 of this video so far. I don't know how the yogi can make that clicking sound during his movements. Is he snapping his bones? I did find it interesting how to imagine your body as an empty bubble then generate heat from within it. I need to learn and practice that one!

What discipline it takes to become a master. My discipline does not come close to what these yogis display. But I will continue making progress...(some of my practices are similar).

What a jewel of a video! Thanks Whiskey_Mystic!
💚🙏💚🙏💚🙏MN💚🙏💚🙏💚

[Hym]

Whiskey Mystic, that's an interesting video. Thanks. This is just some of the real yoga that has been practiced for millennia and that I have always contended are the birthright of all.
It's time for this and much, much more to come out.. And to begin, there are some glaring human inconsistencies in the practices they adhere to, inconsistencies that have driven those on the outside, looking to improve their awareness, to change and adapt the worthwhile aspects into their own practices and masteries.

It's yoga, union, connection and not the yoke of servitude to a religious order that is almost devoid, with very few exceptions, of women, or ones whose self-appointed leaders personally abuse women. I've heard their excuses for not integrating women into practice, but that's the teacher's inability to work on obvious solutions that transform desire into internal self-mastery, which is the basic essence of yoga anyway. Is it the contention of these orders that women are less?

And that low-tomed drone of a mantric prayer. Jeez! Someone slap him. There are other tunes, with higher, normal registers that are not drowned in monotones.

Indigris and Desert Dreamer, Your intuitive takes on what's happening now blend with the subject of the power that this yoga brings up. I've been loud with those yogis for a long time, being one of a different practice than them-yet not one from any programmed invention or lineage.

I have been very critical of my practicing Tibetan Buddhist friends about their secrets and remind them of a poem I wrote many years ago, on a postcard I was sending to a friend-a natural born yogi-but found out he had died before I could send it. The poem was about it being the time for the monks to come down from the mountains and make themselves useful. (I haven't seen my friend back here yet, but I think he'll be coming back soon. I'll notice him by his wicked, magical sense of humor.....I even have a picture of one of his interactions that's service-ful, but hilarious.....)

All I could do was have a laugh with them, because they were too self-centered and worldly unaware in their isolation. There are so many techniques they could share that would be very hard to energetically weaponize. The truth about body awareness is that on a primal, individual and naturally creative level, being integrally healthier itself always can be turned into a weapon, albeit a weapon in opposition to tyranny in our case. Their points have never made sense to me, though we share a common intent to serve others.

I reminded the monks that long ago the negative power structure, of those who would try to rule the planet, has been using some of those techniques to do harm to humanity. Now it doesn't matter to those of ill intent because they are too ignorant, with all of their advanced/integrated/sophisticated devices, to know that their actions have created the impetus for souls with integrity to become empowered.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks for posting Whisky I'm looking forward to watching this on a amusing note I
watched The Gods of War last night in Chinese with no subtitles (just watched , no
reason it was on the link and I clicked on and it started with a battle scene
and I kept it going) The movie is the opposite to this all about China dispelling
Japanese pirates around 500 yrs ago but on a Karmic note it may have set me up
as I may not have been in the mood otherwise who knows ?....synchronicity

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But I have had this unshakeable, gut feeling that there is something imminent

This has been unfolding for me more rapidly over the past few years David Icke
said years ago on the lead up to 2012 that he saw nothing dramatic happening
then but did see 2016/7/8 being significant and is partly why he has been on his
ongoing world tour starting in 2016.

Now Brexit and Trump may not be spiritual events but it has stalled the new world
order with the European project and the US deep state cabal plans. Whether this is
just a blip time will tell ? Also the Ion material I have been listening to for the
past eight years has opened my eyes to all possibilities. So some of the more
spiritual threads that I tend not to gravitate to as often as maybe I should do not
attract me as I know I'm a god in my own reality.....:llama:

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A very interesting documentary and it is important not to let these experiences
fade from the collective consciousness.....As with many religions adapting to
the modern communication and cultural distractions we have other spirituality
obstacles with technology now effecting children from the womb almost and
with AI very real where are we going ?

[conk]

I don't know how the yogi can make that clicking sound during his movements. Is he snapping his bones?

It seems he is slapping his upper arm against his ribs, although it is more romantic to imagine him breaking the sound barrier by moving his hands so quickly. ;)

[Hym]

There is a bridge made up of a deeper yoga that the yogis have not walked over, going from survival to real integration and this great, deep valley they have constructed is the valley of secrets that only their realization can cross. We, in our state of being, are already here.

In truth these old yogic practices, instantly awakened in those who use them, really don't have to wait for some outer, worldly need (for their use to protect humanity) as an impetus to get them going. It is, however, the nature of this intense time that there has been a need for some to get a lot of prodding to wake TFUp.

The allure of self-empowerment transcends the need to do anything for anyone else.....and this has been the b.s. used by yogis, eastern, northern, southern and western buddhists to not engage those things outside of their comfort zone....and I can tell you, from my born experience that it is much more alluring and seemingly natural to live a very austere life, living in direct contact with prana, emanating heat into the cold, etc...a very satisfying life at that....than it is to engage a deeper yoga to serve humanity in the real world, without the perks that the power of the simple life affords us.

Fortunately, the use of these methods can help many. It is in the awakening power of the average person and innately within the construct of each body's makeup.

When healthy activities are enjoyed as a discipline, as important-or even more important than eating, and not obsessed upon, the confines of the senses do not control your actions, freeing up your impact and integration with the outside world.

There are thousands of those sets of exercises in a wide variety of practices. Especially, playing with cold and water is very invigorating, healing, but should be practiced gradually.
I would advise that this video is way too extreme for most to do without gradually getting healthier using those specific exercises as a primer.

The simpler the personal surroundings are, the more engaging the practice is.

[Michelle Marie]

Yes, Hym. The whole purpose of getting anything is to give it away.

Even the poorest person can give of himself: his time, his attention, his gifts and talent. Empowerment can be shared, too. We emanate, we radiate, and we give in service to others. It seems like a natural balance.

Cheers!
MM

[Michi]

I fast forwarded to 39:50 and watched his breathing secret exercise and I thought to myself: "What's the point?"
I am a more practical type.
If you really wanna watch Eastern power, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8szr8oPrxE

In this video you'll learn how by "being" the opponent makes the master become "magically" cause.
Now that's what I call impressive and PRACTICAL.

[Hym]

I've seen these energetic tricks of children before. He is healing no one. He's just gathering students. That's insulting and disrespectful of the human spirit. I am not impressed by the show, the con. The words are wonderful but the show is silly. Are his students better than him? Not if he is still teaching.

[enigma3]

This movie has been out for several years now. It is pretty revealing in its content. The goal is to acquire mastery of oneself. Eventually one is able to bring the consciousness to rest in the heart. All great Eastern traditions tell us the proper center of consciousness in humans is the heart. Tibet and tantra. The last country left that teaches awakening.

The seers in Tibet say that tantra (the slow way) will not be taught in the age of Maitreya, which is almost upon us. Only the fast way (Dzogchen) will be taught.

[lunaflare]

Thanks for the videos and yes, I agree with your responses, Hymn.

These martial art practices (heart sutra) is about using the mind and energetic field in an impressive way: to protect and deflect energy; to bring down an opponent.

The demonstration is not about healing; not about compassion (as far as I can see).
And where are the women?
I struggle with this glaring absence in Tibetan Buddhist practice.
One can only conclude that women are less worthy
Less

The best expression of Compassionate Strength is the number 8 card, "Strength" of the Tarot..
This resonates with me and carries the signature of an enduring truth.
This card is usually depicted by a woman resting her hand upon a lion.

[Justplain]

I haven't watched the video, so my comment here is in response to the premonition question.

Listening to various sources, I believe that what intuitively feels correct to me is that we are in for some changes, but that we have a choice in this. The changes will likely happen over a generation or a few. Many of the new souls being incarnated will have a greater connection to their higher selves, and resultantly greater access to incarnational memories. Paranormal abilities should appear more frequently, such as telepathy and clairvoyance.

By having a choice I mean this, I think that the negative controllers will still be hanging around, peddling a transhumanist debt slavery. We will have the ability to choose not to participate in this, and will be able to live more independently, closer to mother Earth but still using high tech solutions to remove some of the drudgery of living off the land.

I hear/feel that Mother Earth is going through a cleansing to provide the environmental and animal resources to support this transition. I have heard, later backed by scientific reports, that due to a solar activity minimum (yes, Father Sol is helping Mother Earth in this endeavour), Earth will enter a mini-ice age around 2030, which will cause utility failures in many colder climate countries. So, this is something we should prepare for.

I don't get the impression of a massive loss of life occurring. Mother Earth will clean herself through the mini-ice age but will as a result be able to provide us with more food from the sea, etc. Society will continue in two main parts, one more independent and closer to nature, the other more centrally controlled and transhumanist.

It's our choice. From what I understand/feel, we are now being visited by beings from our own future, the future 'back to earther' descendents are the Pleiadians. The future 'transhumanist' descendents are a strain of the Grays (a troglodyte type). Knowing that, the choice should be a no brainer.

[Sunny-side-up]

Whiskey_Mystic 
Thank you so much for posting this real gem.

It is impressive seeing a small part of the secrete breathing practices demonstrated by someone who is mastering his full scope as a being (Multi Dimensional Being)

At vid point: 8:08 you see a painting of a yogi doing a very deep and amazing exercise, he is covering all external head holes, blocking out Vision, Sound and Air
I wish that exercise was demonstrated in the vid, then you/we would really have seen secrets.

Breathing to most of us is just a action, proses to get Air into the blood and brain to keep you alive.
These are Not Breathing-Exercise in the meaning of, helping develop breathing/health and ways to be strong in reality, not just to enable the abilities to over come (to harmonise with) heat and cold life conditions etc. but as tools/ways of using breathing (Air. Energies internal and external) to open paths to other levels of existence.

Experiencing the exercise as shown at vid point 8:08 was the main thing that really, really opened my mind or should I say confirmed to me the metaphysical other dimensional reality (inter dimensional reality) of life as a human.
It was an experience of such great visual wonder the kind of which I have not even seen expressed with the best animated computer artists.
The exercise gives you not only a journey to open your mind but can take you the brink of life it's self.
What I mean by that is it takes you to the jump off point, the point where you see all your possible future life's (lives Not in there day to day details but the encapsulated balls (Realities) that you can dive into.
The yogis practice this so they can move down (or up as it were) to their next best incarnation. It is a truly amazing place to be seeing, a point I might add I did not progress past. I did not progress pass that point because I had not been trained and did not want to leave the life I have now.

I did managed to travel this exercises path at least 6 times reaching the jump point, looking down along the never converging rows of orbs, the web of what to me where Mirrored Orbs, the very distant focal point of which was a vaporous lozenge shaped Sun (the source?) like an eye looking at me.
At the time I was doing that Breathing exercise I was young and fit and very strong physically and mentally, I was charged up as it where. I knew I could have drove on down through the centre of that web to the source point.

BTW being an artist I always did the visual path but to be balanced there is the Audio path (exercise). Same exercise but you go into it focusing attention/intent on sound. You are supposed to here the whole universe in crescendo. (Visual image, light and sound all just frequencies or wavelengths of energy).

There are many questions I have about my experience, the answers I wish these yogis would give us.

From that point on wards not only was I totally awakened to real reality that we could all be aware of and living but I also totally lost any fear of death.

PS I did my breathing exercises while in the company of well trusted friends, friends who reported to me my physical condition. You start the exercise with head tilting backwards so you would be looking up at 45 degrees if eyes where open, I ended up full body tilting at an angle of 45 degrees with out falling over, just hanging there 0.o. My friends also reported seeing that I was not taking in Air for worrying lengths of time, much longer that considered normal.
Upon coming out of the exercise I did not gasp for air but just calmly let out a little hiss of air.

Not a safe exercise to do with out full pre-training and a masters directions, but so glad I experienced it and all that I experienced from it afterwards.

Hope the above is all readable to you.
The Yogis Breathing Exercises are not just to keep fit ;)

[Valerie Villars]

Hym, there is so much wisdom in what you say. I never did understand people who wanted to get enlightened for enlightenment's sake. It just never made sense to me. Unless you are out in the world and acting, what is the point?

I got hit with some kind of wisdom in 2013 and my body, while fully awake, was doing the most fluid, yogic things to music. I can't even describe it. I was just melting into myself and completely comfortable on a mason wall while prone. It's difficult to explain. it just happened. But there is something deeply spiritual about a body in alignment.

[DeeMetrios]

Also the Ion material I have been listening to for the
past eight years has opened my eyes to all possibilities. So some of the more
spiritual threads that I tend not to gravitate to as often as maybe I should do not
attract me as I know I'm a god in my own reality.....:llama:


Hello Cidersomerset
Ion material ? .... Did you mean Kryon ?
cheers

[Hym]

Sunny-side-up. Thank You for sharing the experiences. You were fortunate to have the presence of your friends during your internal journey. That is wise and recommended if they love you. At your middle age, as many of us here on Avalon, it is good also to go slowly in these practices where you suspend the breath as it raises the blood pressure.

And I agree about breath exercises, for as long as I can remember from very early on. I always, as I do now, use control of the breath to control and thus release the mind, opening up to deeper experiences and journeys.

You are, at 8:08 in the video, referring to the Art of Occlusion, Chinese-last of the 8 strands of the Brocade. It is also called by the Jains The Shanmukhi Mudra, Shun=6: 2 eyes, 2 ears, 1 mouth and 1 nose....Mookee=Mouth, Door, To Speak..Moodruh= pose, form, activity. This is closing off the input of the senses in order to focus inside.

It is usually practiced after saying a prayer, but they are not a pre-requisite.

The 5 prayers of some initiations:

Jot Neerunjun, O-Ung-Kaar, Roorun-Kaar(or Raarun-Kaar), So-Hung, Saat-ih Naam
(from Sant Maat and some Sikh Prayers - Pentees Uhkuhree)

The result is the Listening that carries us into the inner worlds. It is common to hear and see as the awakening occurs. Again, practiced slowly, adding to the time a bit per day.....

I have practiced and loved prayers from a couple of traditions. The ones I practice with occlusion are the Jain's Naamo Kaar Muntruh (not the ones listed above). (I can list it here if you want or PM it to you.....It belongs to all.)

If I have little time I do this one before meditating or working and it is considered a basic before going inside, very protective, clearing, healing.

There is also the muntruh I have loved for a long time, based upon older Indian Sanskrit/Hindi prayers, one you will hear Indians sing as a vocal warmup:

SaaRayGaaMaaPaaDaaNee, SaaTaaNaaMaaRaaMaaDaaSaa, SaaSay So Hung
which can be sung in scale or monotone or how you would create it to be in your own voicing.

I don't know if you can find the complete details of the exercises I have shared elsewhere. If you can't, just send me a message and I'll write them here.

[shaberon]

The allure of self-empowerment transcends the need to do anything for anyone else.....and this has been the b.s. used by yogis, eastern, northern, southern and western buddhists to not engage those things outside of their comfort zone....and I can tell you, from my born experience that it is much more alluring and seemingly natural to live a very austere life, living in direct contact with prana, emanating heat into the cold, etc...a very satisfying life at that....than it is to engage a deeper yoga to serve humanity in the real world, without the perks that the power of the simple life affords us.


The simplest way I can express this, is that most of the paths are that of Nirvana, whether it's called Moksha, Bhagavatam, or any term in any language that means basically the same thing. This is much, much better than nothing, and I can find plenty of reason to isolate souls from the hustle and bustle of material life, and particularly to meditate in a rarefied atmosphere as in the Himalayas or Andes.

The classical counterpoint to that is the Bodhisattva path; and, that being said, there remain reasons why Bodhisattvas don't simply come swarming out to "save the world".

One should also credit Buddhists for going well beyond their "comfort zone", traveling as far as Greece and perhaps Ireland in the time of Asoka, as well as the whole orient. Many times facing violence and death like anyone else. Several orders of outright "warrior monks" such as the Yama-bushi of Japan.

While I agree that in the utmost sense, the path to Nirvana is not the highest or most "beneficial to others", in most cases it is the best thing to be hoped for, and it must remain open and cherished.

[Hym]

I fundamentally disagree that the methods for self-healing and self-empowerment have been "open" within almost all sects, and they are quite varied, considering themselves Buddhist. It comes down to when I hear a man say that he does things "for the benefit of all" it comes with a lot of strings and exceptions attached, sharing as little as they deem necessary, always enough to keep themselves special, at the very least isolated.

The first video of this thread and the number of responses proves how closed and sectarian the practices, not the philosophies, of those sects still are to this day. I don't care what the healing practices are called or who claims ownership of them. Most were created out of natural intuition within the makeup of humans in it's totality and belong to all.

Look at how many here on this site have never seen or practiced those exercises. The few of us who have practiced those exercises, with some variations, in the video know just how closed and pretentious most of the "Buddhist" systems are. The funny part of this is that most who have worked that hard to learn the "secrets" of the sects are folks who have for the most part, to me, lost a lot. Can't blame them for looking, but how dishonest the systems are that slowly reward the students with the precious bread crumbs of hidden methods.

The things I have learned have been given openly, fully well knowing that I would share them with others. I take a sense of equanimity in knowing that those who have reason to hide their "secrets" walk far away from any contact with those like me. When it comes down to it I have learned some very effective methods from people who have found them on their own, without whatever price in time, honest effort, and "surrender" many have been spent in their life's vital worth and meaning. Funny again that some of the hidden secrets are not as useful as those found by natural inclination and open study. It is good to see the openness now growing. May those who suffer any consequence from their revelations be comforted by their use in the daily lives of many.

I am not pissed at any of the secrecy. I expose it for what it is. Of all of the things that give us the strength to confront and change the things that make a difference it is these secrets that need to be shared. I just knew a long time ago that all of the reasons for not sharing were lies, grounded in someone's darkness or some other motivation kept to control others. To most of those masters it has always been okay for some to become enlightened, but only if they were selected thru that very common, long drawn out process. Time's up. Their philosophies, colorful and magnanimous, do not match their actions.

The thought that has been laid on humanity for years that these things cannot be engaged and even mastered in the modern life is the biggest lie of all. There is no meditative space more valuable than wherever and whenever you are. Alone and together are both good, necessary and effective.

I breathe the air freely and it breathes in me the same, no mystery at all but amazing, as always.

[Sunny-side-up]

Sunny-side-up. Thank You for sharing the experiences. You were fortunate to have the presence of your friends during your internal journey. That is wise and recommended if they love you. At your middle age, as many of us here on Avalon, it is good also to go slowly in these practices where you suspend the breath as it raises the blood pressure.

And I agree about breath exercises, for as long as I can remember from very early on. I always, as I do now, use control of the breath to control and thus release the mind, opening up to deeper experiences and journeys.

You are, at 8:08 in the video, referring to the Art of Occlusion, Chinese-last of the 8 strands of the Brocade. It is also called by the Jains The Shanmukhi Mudra, Shun=6: 2 eyes, 2 ears, 1 mouth and 1 nose....Mookee=Mouth, Door, To Speak..Moodruh= pose, form, activity. This is closing off the input of the senses in order to focus inside.

It is usually practiced after saying a prayer, but they are not a pre-requisite.

The 5 prayers of some initiations:

Jot Neerunjun, O-Ung-Kaar, Roorun-Kaar(or Raarun-Kaar), So-Hung, Saat-ih Naam
(from Sant Maat and some Sikh Prayers - Pentees Uhkuhree)

The result is the Listening that carries us into the inner worlds. It is common to hear and see as the awakening occurs. Again, practiced slowly, adding to the time a bit per day.....

I have practiced and loved prayers from a couple of traditions. The ones I practice with occlusion are the Jain's Naamo Kaar Muntruh (not the ones listed above). (I can list it here if you want or PM it to you.....It belongs to all.)

If I have little time I do this one before meditating or working and it is considered a basic before going inside, very protective, clearing, healing.

There is also the muntruh I have loved for a long time, based upon older Indian Sanskrit/Hindi prayers, one you will hear Indians sing as a vocal warmup:

SaaRayGaaMaaPaaDaaNee, SaaTaaNaaMaaRaaMaaDaaSaa, SaaSay So Hung
which can be sung in scale or monotone or how you would create it to be in your own voicing.

I don't know if you can find the complete details of the exercises I have shared elsewhere. If you can't, just send me a message and I'll write them here.

I don't know if you can find the complete details of the exercises I have shared elsewhere. If you can't, just send me a message and I'll write them here.
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You are, at 8:08 in the video, referring to the Art of Occlusion, Chinese-last of the 8 strands of the Brocade. It is also called by the Jains The Shanmukhi Mudra, Shun=6: 2 eyes, 2 ears, 1 mouth and 1 nose....Mookee=Mouth, Door, To Speak..Moodruh= pose, form, activity. This is closing off the input of the senses in order to focus inside.

I have practiced and loved prayers from a couple of traditions. The ones I practice with occlusion are the Jain's Naamo Kaar Muntruh (not the ones listed above). (I can list it here if you want or PM it to you.....It belongs to all.)

Hello Hym and thank you so much for your post here and the mention of: 'The Art of Occlusion' and the '8 strands of the Brocade'
Luckily I was doing many, many all day long deep breathing exercises back then. The correct path for the 'The Art of Occlusion', under proper training (I was not) is a series of exercises lasting at-least 10 years, I believe. I took big risks and short cuts back then, at my own risk.

So it should be mentioned, especially with the 'The Art of Occlusion' that they can be very dangerous and to be taken seriously.
I am 100% glad I did do the exercises though.

Hym I would love to see more, you said (I can list it here if you want it to you.....It belongs to all.) please do.

I would also like to compare any direct experiences you might have had with the 'The Art of Occlusion' in PM'

I have always had trouble talking about that exercises because of not wanting to contaminate any ones personal experiences who haven't actually done them.

[Hym]

Yes, Sunny-side-up. I too have done the many hours a day method as an introduction, but that is not a balanced way to continue, unless you feel it is so in regards to your lifetime and life style. That's why, when the inner'/outer connection is so vivid, so insightful, and profound I see no reason for doing anything other than getting the whole mechanism of body, mind, soul in the best form possible. Likewise I see the journeys of many into addiction as a reaction to the unanswered call of the spirit to be awakened. It is a call that few recognize because there is so much money being made from occluding these natural methods from those in need. As we breathe we are driven to these truths, but only in the real world we live in, not in any one born of the synthetic world of addiction, enter-train-ment, or EM tech.

I did not caution against any perceived dangers and I don't know why someone would say that about doing such a basic method. (Well, I do know why, but those aren't real reasons for not practicing and mastering it on your own.) It would be a great stretch to consider this one dangerous. This is exactly why I have written about it, because it is so very far from the truth to say this specific one meditative technique, closing off the openings of the most common avenues we perceive things by, is in any way dangerous. Silly, silly, silly. This method is the beginning, even if it can become a masterful exercise. Knowing those who have hidden these simple, beginning exercises I wouldn't waste my time hearing those lies again.

It's odd that you say it takes 10 years to get results from occluding the senses and looking inside. The most common method teaches the 5 muntruhs, describing 5 states of awareness, and then at the FIRST class has you close off the openings while selecting a breathing method that either opens and closes the nostrils or mouth to inhale and exhale.

After the repetition of the maantruhs and within the listening, the soonee-eh (sanskrit), that then naturally occurs almost everyone sees a color, a pattern and/or hears some sounds like a waterfall, a buzzing, ocean waves, etc.. The journeys themselves are varied, dependent on your ability to focus on your interplay with life and your intentions. There is unnecessary intrusion if you allow it and forget your sovereignty at each new experience.

Remember that the 5 phrases are not a requisite for occluding. Your own inclusion of your own words, or not, to activate the value of occlusion should be your own choice. This is YOUR LIFE and it should be your choice. The entire idea of making a contract in any state of awareness of life or in between lives and then having that awareness, that may have itself been limited, removed in your present state is a breach of contract! Do not hold yourself up to someone else's narrative, especially if you are ethical. It's insulting, even to the awareness of a rock, to be held to such dishonest, one-sided agreements.

These methods and many more may help develop and open up our own abilities.

I do appreciate the feedback we give each other and I do not see it as unduly influencing each other's experiences.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Good discussion. Thank you all for participating. I hope to see more.