Robert Miller pilots UFO

[mojo]

Amazing testimony...

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[Sunny-side-up]

WoW and well, bout time a pilot spoke up.

Thought it strange that they diden't already have pilots for the mission, maybe they had already burn't them out in some way or,
needed a totally fresh mind with no pre-conception of the flying controls.

thanks for posting mojo, is it me or dose it seem like a rush starting?

[mojo]

I can't imagine how much fear one would have in stepping out from behind an non-disclosure agreement... Wonder if Robert knew about Phillip Schneider? This is ground breaking and the first thing I thought was getting Kerry Cassidy or Bill even to contact him. This story is just the tip of the iceberg with recent information coming out more and more, we can only hope another person will have courage enough to tell the citizens. These are Americas true unsung heroes, and some gave their lives...

[mojo]

PS... Because this information is somewhat time sensitive, does anyone know how to contact Kerry Cassidy in case she hasn't heard but how cool would it be to see Bill talk with him?

Another thought which would be awesome for Avalon would be to get Joefromthe Carolinas member (he expressed interest earlier in doing something like this) to setup-up a youtube livestream where he can have Bill and all of us come in chat while he interviews Robert. Or if Joe can't maybe another member would like to host a livestream for Avalon?

PSS.. sent a pm to JoefromtheCarolinas and set the groundwork in the thread let's see what others say and we agree it might be a worthy pursuit..;)

PSSS: Im interested in seeing a livestream, so the next thing is to find out how to reach Robert before what Im sure will be a huge list of people wishing an interview with him. Wondering if Apex TV will be a contact?

[The Moss Trooper]

My BS meter is going off the scale with this one.

I'm sorry, I don't believe him.

He states that he was one of the Marine Corps' best pilots, yet the language he uses is not what I would expect from a Hot Jock (Fast-Jet Pilot), at all. The terms he uses are somewhat naive, to say the least. His body language is all over the place, this could be down to nerves, but I'm not convinced. The lack of detail is the most eye opening thing though. Fast jet pilots' observation skills are many, many times higher than Joe public, yet this story is almost barren with regard to detail, and this is a guy that is stating that he piloted a vehicle not of this planet. Just think about that.

I hope that I am proved wrong.

[Foxie Loxie]

Brings to mind David Adair's story from 1972.....this man's story is from the 1950's!! WOW! :ufo:

[Spiral]

I wish this was on anything but Apex TV, I've lost count of how many of their BS vids I've deleted on a site I moderate.

[wnlight]

Kerry is a member of PA and monitors now and then.

[seehas]

sounds like a script not real experience, also i dont sense any emotions.

who ever he is its not his experience what he is talking about

just my feeling

[yelik]

I'm suspicious of his claims, virtually any off us could have come up with that story in about 15 minutes.Perhaps he's a mind controlled asset to build up false hope about disclosure.

[ghostrider]

He could have been the victim of impulse technology, the ptb planting false memories into the subconscious... With age the barriers wear down and people start to remember...I believe HE believes what he is saying , very matter of fact... He wrote bullet points to make sure he conveyed his story...

[Spiral]

How about it's just a marketing scam for apex tv ? It's worked too, loads of sites & even newspapers are running it.

Is there any new info in this vid ? No, there isn't....anyone who knows anything about ufology could have scripted this in a few minutes lol.

[Curious77]

Basically, these "gag" rules being used by government to control everyone
working for them have to be stopped.
No "gag" rule should be permitted where a crime is involved.
And this is treason.

Having made that demand .... we also have to keep in mind that American
citizens have absolutely NO leverage whatsoever over our officials who have
been using hack-able voting computers over the last 50 years to put
themselves in office and to keep themselves there.

[mojo]

Hi Curious77, that was some great insight... years ago posted a thread and cant remember the title but it was about allowing eyewitnesses to be released from their non-disclosure agreements. If President Trump allowed this to happen it would be like a landslide of people with amazing stories... Or at least President Trump should hear the stories himself and his administration as well because I believe the deep state is hiding the tech from him and won't give up the secrets unless witnesses come forward. The President can then decide just what can be release without giving national security away.

[Bill Ryan]

My BS meter is going off the scale with this one.

I'm sorry, I don't believe him.

He states that he was one of the Marine Corps' best pilots, yet the language he uses is not what I would expect from a Hot Jock (Fast-Jet Pilot), at all. The terms he uses are somewhat naive, to say the least. His body language is all over the place, this could be down to nerves, but I'm not convinced. The lack of detail is the most eye opening thing though. Fast jet pilots' observation skills are many, many times higher than Joe public, yet this story is almost barren with regard to detail, and this is a guy that is stating that he piloted a vehicle not of this planet. Just think about that.

I hope that I am proved wrong.

Yep. Impossible to believe.

SO many holes in the narrative. Besides the fact that he'd be silenced in a heartbeat if this was true, no way would he have been bundled into that thing to try to fly it mentally without very lengthy training and orientation. (See Bill Uhouse's testimony (http://www.unacknowledged.info/bill-uhouse) about designing a UFO flight simulator in the 1950s...)

He really does sound like a not-very-bright kid telling a made-up story in front of a classroom as an assignment.

[mojo]

The hope was to find out more by an interview or follow-up as to me he seemed to have no reason to hoax but when wrong Im glad other members are more keen to pick up on things...

[The Moss Trooper]

The hope was to find out more by an interview or follow-up as to me he seemed to have no reason to hoax but when wrong Im glad other members are more keen to pick up on things...

A noble sentiment mojo.

Unfortunately, some people lie, for all sorts of reasons. I've a feeling this fella, Robert Miller, just wants to feel important, maybe as a sojourn from the drudgery of day-to-day life. Maybe an under-achiever, maybe a compulsive liar, who knows. This is the sort of crud we have to wade through to find the nuggets, the real nuggets of truth that lead to delicious secrets of exotica.

[MoggoCinnie]

Well lets see:
1) He says he is going to live on the run and he didn't mind not hiding his face or voice, so why not elaborate (with more photos and documents) on his career in the Marine Corps? That would have added to his credibility.
2) He says his memory is fuzzy. Really? Anybody who is shown and gets to fly an aircraft 'not from this world' is unlikely to forget anything of the experience. It is life changing.
3) His description of the saucer and the means of controlling came straight out of the Stephen Coonts 'Saucer' series of Novels.
4) A top secret military base loses the hottest piece of tech on earth and they 'just call it a day' after it disappears? No frantic searching? For all they knew it could have teleported and landed bang in the middle of a kindergarten playground, Time Square, a busy street in Las Vegas.
5) It is no conventional aircraft with no 'conventional' flight controls why even get a military pilot to fly it? Why not a scientist? Why not one of the guys that reverse engineered it that has intimate knowledge of the craft?
6) Test pilots don't 'kick the tyres and light the fires' the day after seeing a new aircraft. They spend a lot of time studying and familiarizing themselves with a craft before flying it.
7) He never said he was a test pilot before being brought onto the project. Agencies are likely to employ test pilots, not pilots from active squadrons. But in this case like I said, why get a pilot to fly this thing in any case?
8) You don't need your arms or legs to pilot the craft. Why would they wash him from the program because of two broken legs? An amputee with no legs and arms will be able to pilot such a craft.
9) He can remember details like the hallways and room quite clearly, but the memory of the craft and flight seems fuzzy?

If this guy was for real he would have started with 'My name is Robert Miller, I joined the Marine Corp in.... I qualified as a pilot in.... I was posted to.... squadron..... I retired with the rank of.... Here is a list of my decorations..... Here are some photos of me as a pilot. See the wings and medals on my chest. Here are some documents to prove I was a Marine Corp pilot. Here is some proof that my legs were shattered at some stage in my career. Here is proof of my medical discharge. This was my career after leaving the marines.

If he was for real he would have had someone interview him and ask him some questions in stead of rambling on.

This guy is obviously lying. And anybody who believes him should do some introspection as you are too gullible.

[Bill Ryan]

MoggoCinnie, welcome to the forum, and many thanks for your post immediately above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101002-Robert-Miller-pilots-UFO&p=1204814&viewfull=1#post1204814).

I agree 100%. (Possibly more! :) )