'It just mowed everybody down': Pedestrians hit by SUV in Melbourne CBD

[bluestflame]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/serious-situation-unfolding-at-flinders-and-elizabeth-streets-20171220-h089ce.html

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/h/0/8/v/4/l/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.h089ce.png/1513839498663.jpg



Up to 15 people have been injured after pedestrians were mown down by a car near the corner of Flinders and Elizabeth streets in Melbourne's CBD.

A white SUV showed no signs of slowing as it mowed down a number of people at the busy intersection.


interesting timing is all i can say , after they were going to install concrete bollards around melb CBD a few months ago but apparently the remotely activated ones for the tram tracks were deemed unworkable

( at time of posting it had literally just happened )


It appears police have not enacted counter terrorism lockdown strategies. The new terror warning sirens have also not been activated.

Police have confirmed the collision impact on victims was not at high speed.

The pedestrians were struck in front of dozens of people as they crossed the busy intersection at the beginning of peak hour.

One distressed woman carrying Christmas presents and wrapping paper could be seen crying as police escorted her into an unmarked police car.

[findingneo]

What? Again? Flying there and going to that part of the city in 2 days. Was it an accident?

[bluestflame]

they're still piecing together what actually happened

[findingneo]

While looking on further stuff about this, I see a man was arrested last month as well, for planning a Melbourne attack on NYE.

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Onlookers seem to think it was not an accident. https://www.9news.com.au/videos/cjbg5bdyq00350hor8lv2skm2/suv-mows-down-pedestrians-on-flinders-street

[bluestflame]

While looking on further stuff about this, I see a man was arrested last month as well, for planning a Melbourne attack on NYE.

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Onlookers seem to think it was not an accident. https://www.9news.com.au/videos/cjbg5bdyq00350hor8lv2skm2/suv-mows-down-pedestrians-on-flinders-street

there was still talk about them installing concrete bollards around the cbd after the last one ( i live about an hour away so i don't go there much) was some issue with the installation of automated ones for the tram tracks but from what i remember of flinders street theres a point where there's mass amounts of people that cross to the flinders street train station , no bollards to prevent that

at the time along with a lot of others i noticed a lot of things didn't sit right with the whole sequence of events of the original cbd car incident

[findingneo]

Can you please elaborate please Bluestflame? Thanks.

[bluestflame]

there should be reference to the original "MELBOURNE CBD TERROR ATTACK" on one of the threads here

[bluestflame]

some more updates
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[Mark]

So sad to hear of such events. May those affected and their families find peace. In the larger context, for those seeking to implement fundamental technological shift in our societies, this kind of event may be another argument in favor of driverless cars (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/12/are-we-going-too-fast-driverless-cars).

[bluestflame]

So sad to hear of such events. May those affected and their families find peace. In the larger context, for those seeking to implement fundamental technological shift in our societies, this kind of event may be another argument in favor of driverless cars (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/12/are-we-going-too-fast-driverless-cars).


THAT is exactly what i believe these events wether freerange or controlled are being used for long term , they already shut down the australian automotive production industry so we'll be reliant upon approved foreign car imports

i was thinking first it would be "smart car only zones" which would of course be pre approved successful "trials " then wheeled out over wider areas

is interesting it happened right outside one of melbournes two major trainstations

[Mark]

They want to do it soon.

10 Million Self-Driving Cars Will Hit The Road By 2020 -- Here's How To Profit (https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviergarret/2017/03/03/10-million-self-driving-cars-will-hit-the-road-by-2020-heres-how-to-profit/#19f642dd7e50)

These 20 companies are racing to build self-driving cars in the next 5 years (http://www.businessinsider.com/companies-making-driverless-cars-by-2020-2016-11)

Self-driving car timeline for 11 top automakers (https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/04/self-driving-car-timeline-for-11-top-automakers/)

As their goal seems to have a rapid timeline, any method they could possibly employ to turn people against free-range driving will be used. With the wide open spaces of Australia, I'm sure the impetus there is much like here in the USA, where we are similarly unimpeded by mass transportation. I just read that the hyperloop battle is intensifying (http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/19/technology/virgin-hyperloop-one/index.html) between Musk and Branson as well.

[Cidersomerset]

interesting timing is all i can say , after they were going to
install concrete bollards around melb CBD a few months ago but
apparently the remotely activated ones for the tram tracks were
deemed unworkable


'Problem Reaction Solution' whether this was genuinely a individual
with issues or not , terrorist comes to mind straight away in the
mainstream and public psyche built up over decades. I would not
be surprised if bollards and more security are not brought up again.
At least no one died but being injured or traumatised is sad at
Christmas or any time.......


http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Melbourne crash: Driver arrested after hitting pedestrians

The man who deliberately drove a car into a crowd in Melbourne is a drug
user with mental health issues but no known terrorism links, police say.
The Australian citizen of Afghan descent was taken into custody after a
struggle at the scene of the incident.The car the 32-year-old was driving
hit a number of pedestrians on Flinders Street, a busy thoroughfare in the
city centre, said Victoria Police.

read more....

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6DCF/production/_99311182_melbourne_attack_map640-nc.png

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42437315

[bluestflame]

They want to do it soon.

10 Million Self-Driving Cars Will Hit The Road By 2020 -- Here's How To Profit (https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviergarret/2017/03/03/10-million-self-driving-cars-will-hit-the-road-by-2020-heres-how-to-profit/#19f642dd7e50)

These 20 companies are racing to build self-driving cars in the next 5 years (http://www.businessinsider.com/companies-making-driverless-cars-by-2020-2016-11)

Self-driving car timeline for 11 top automakers (https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/04/self-driving-car-timeline-for-11-top-automakers/)

As their goal seems to have a rapid timeline, any method they could possibly employ to turn people against free-range driving will be used. With the wide open spaces of Australia, I'm sure the impetus there is much like here in the USA, where we are similarly unimpeded by mass transportation. I just read that the hyperloop battle is intensifying (http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/19/technology/virgin-hyperloop-one/index.html) between Musk and Branson as well.
all part of the agenda 21 etc mega cities , cali wildfires to get people off that land to return it to nature these "idealists" are seriously distorted

it's a complete package , billion dollar thinktanks planning out our lives ( and demise) turnbull govt here admitting they spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer money on " consultants" ie thinktanks

and the biggest key indicator GLOBAL COORDINATION OF EVENTS

just found this in australia had no idea https://rac.com.au/about-rac/advocating-change/initiatives/intellibus?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzJixsJmc2AIVCw4rCh32OQdzEAAYASAAEgKhMfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


One small step

RAC is proud to be leading Australia’s very first Automated Vehicle Trial right here in Western Australia.

Since 2015, RAC has been working to test and evaluate a fully autonomous, electric shuttle bus and on the 31st August 2016, with the support from the WA State Government and the City of South Perth, we launched our Automated Vehicle Trial on public roads.

To date we have had more than 10,700 people book a ride and many more stopping to observe and take a photo. The RAC Intellibus® has recently celebrated its first birthday, has completed more than 7,728 km in autonomous mode and completed more than 2,208 thirty minute rides.

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[bluestflame]

Second man arrested after Melbourne driver rampage that left 19 injured 'was filming the incident and had three KNIVES in his bag'
Man arrested near where a car ploughed through crowds in front of Melbourne's Flinders Street Station
The 24-year-old was filming the 'deliberate' rampage and when the car crashed into a tram stop bollard
Police searched him as procedure and found a bag containing three knives, leading to his arrest
However, police did not believe he was involved or connected to the 32-year-old alleged driver
Nineteen people including the alleged driver were injured in the incident, four still in critical condition


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5202223/Man-knives-arrested-scene-Flinders-St-rampage.html#ixzz51wIilIb2
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5202223/Man-knives-arrested-scene-Flinders-St-rampage.html

now we get the conflicting reports another one said the second man arrested was a passenger IN the vehicle

and i forgot this other one a failed attempt that happened in between the other ones http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bomb-squad-investigating-car-after-driver-armed-with-knife-drove-wildly-through-cbd-20170929-gyrt4r.html


https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/y/r/t/c/u/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gyrt4r.png/1506763328058.jpg

[bluestflame]

update ( don't watch if squeemish) posted to show it's real though the context may be a little controlled
https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/1935935523097238/

[Innocent Warrior]

update ( don't watch if squeemish) posted to show it's real though the context may be a little controlled
https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/1935935523097238/

WTF, the CCTV camera moved and followed the car, someone knew it was going to happen.

[bluestflame]

update ( don't watch if squeemish) posted to show it's real though the context may be a little controlled
https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/1935935523097238/

WTF, the CCTV camera moved and followed the car, someone knew it was going to happen.

faark! i didn't notice that good spot

need someone that works with CCTVs to verify if this is standard

[Innocent Warrior]

update ( don't watch if squeemish) posted to show it's real though the context may be a little controlled
https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/1935935523097238/

WTF, the CCTV camera moved and followed the car, someone knew it was going to happen.

faark! i didn't notice that good spot

need someone that works with CCTVs to verify if this is standard

:thumbsup:

I considered that they might have zoomed the footage in and across to package it (if they can do that?) but it doesn't look like it, the movement matches the speed and way those cameras move.

Another possible scenario is that security noticed the car going a bit too fast on the tram tracks (out of all the other monitors), thought unbelievably quicky and followed it in the nick of time to catch the incident, I highly doubt that.

I wonder who owns the CCTV, gov or private?

Update: nope, the more I look at it the more I'm convinced the camera panned, would be good to have expert confirmation though. Can't see how this is standard, sensors to activate areas where cars always travel for parking anyway?

[findingneo]

I asked an Engineer your question regarding the security cam moving to capture the car speeding, who used to work in coordinating railway configurations. He seemed to think it would be simple tech for the camera to move from a trigger such as speeding, to set the camera tracking the movement.

[TigaHawk]

They have the large concrete blocks in place in queen st mall in Brisbane. This only covers 3 main entrances to the mall, with the 4th having no blocks as it's the main delivery rout for courier trucks dropping off supplies to stores within the mall.

There are plenty of other areas, namely all the streets within an 8 block radius around queen st mall that are just as congested people wise have no protection whatsoever outside of on street parking generally limited to one side of the road where the parked cars would act as a barrier.


I don't understand why they're doing this. They've already disarmed us. What other laws and restrictions do they want to put in place that require attacks like this as justification??

[Innocent Warrior]

They have the large concrete blocks in place in queen st mall in Brisbane. This only covers 3 main entrances to the mall, with the 4th having no blocks as it's the main delivery rout for courier trucks dropping off supplies to stores within the mall.

There are plenty of other areas, namely all the streets within an 8 block radius around queen st mall that are just as congested people wise have no protection whatsoever outside of on street parking generally limited to one side of the road where the parked cars would act as a barrier.


I don't understand why they're doing this. They've already disarmed us. What other laws and restrictions do they want to put in place that require attacks like this as justification??

Being at war on home soil generates enough fear for the populace to welcome moves like this; Malcolm Turnbull to announce overhaul of Defence call out powers, beefed-up police forces (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/malcolm-turnbull-to-announce-overhaul-of-defence-call-out-powers-beefedup-police-forces/news-story/1ed6b20052a187e3da635a7b7a898009) (July, 2017).


VICTORIAN police will get elite SAS training as part of a major overhaul of defence deployment rules that will make it easier for Australian soldiers to act on home soil.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will today announce sweeping changes to defence “call-out” powers following a high-level review commissioned after overseas terrorist attacks and the Lindt cafe siege.

Under the reforms, state police forces will be able to embed military personnel in their ranks, and police tactical response teams will get special forces training to bring them up to the level of the military when dealing with major incidents.

And the long-awaited changes will make it easier for the Australian Defence Force to take charge of counter-terrorism operations when state governments request it.

The military will be able to respond to complex terrorism attacks, getting new powers to support a police response such as by preventing people leaving the scene of an incident.

Call-out powers were put under the spotlight during the controversy over how NSW Police responded to the Lindt Cafe hostage siege.

The move to boost state police forces’ capacity to neutralise terrorists recognises that Australia’s two military tactical assault groups, based in Sydney and Perth, would take several hours to arrive at an incident in, for example, Melbourne.

“State and territory police forces remain the best first response to terrorist incidents, immediately after an attack starts,” Mr Turnbull said.

“But Defence can offer more support to states and territories to enhance their capabilities and increase their understanding of Defence’s unique capabilities, to ensure a comprehensive response to potential terrorist attacks.

“The overhaul will make it easier for Defence to work together with federal, state and territory police in the event of a terrorist incident.”

Mr Turnbull will announce the overhaul today at Sydney’s Holsworthy Barracks. The barracks is the home of the 2nd Commando Regiment, which deals with domestic counter-terrorism operations.

The changes will be made in partnership with states and territories, depending on their security needs.

Liberal MP and former SAS commander Andrew Hastie has been among those who argued for the call out powers to be modernised.

States and territories are currently unable to ask for military help until their capacity to respond to incidents has been exhausted.

The PM said the review of the Defence Force’s role in domestic counter-terrorism operations, the first since 2005, recognised the “changing nature of the threat as demonstrated in recent terrorist attacks around the world”.

“It is essential that Australia evolves its responses and counter-measures in response to the changing threat. Defence must be able to contribute effectively to domestic counter-terrorism efforts.”

[Innocent Warrior]

As a sidenote, from previous post, note; "Mr Turnbull will announce the overhaul today at Sydney’s Holsworthy Barracks. The barracks is the home of the 2nd Commando Regiment, which deals with domestic counter-terrorism operations".

See HERE (https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/my-story-fiona-barnett-hang-on-for-the-ride/) for what Fiona Barnett shared about Holsworthy when she spoke out about the programming she endured (warning - disturbing).

[bluestflame]

VICTORIAN police will get elite SAS training as part of a major overhaul of defence deployment rules that will make it easier for Australian soldiers to act on home soil.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will today announce sweeping changes to defence “call-out” powers following a high-level review commissioned after overseas terrorist attacks and the Lindt cafe siege.

Under the reforms, state police forces will be able to embed military personnel in their ranks, and police tactical response teams will get special forces training to bring them up to the level of the military when dealing with major incidents.

And the long-awaited changes will make it easier for the Australian Defence Force to take charge of counter-terrorism operations when state governments request it.

The military will be able to respond to complex terrorism attacks, getting new powers to support a police response such as by preventing people leaving the scene of an incident.

Call-out powers were put under the spotlight during the controversy over how NSW Police responded to the Lindt Cafe hostage siege.

The move to boost state police forces’ capacity to neutralise terrorists recognises that Australia’s two military tactical assault groups, based in Sydney and Perth, would take several hours to arrive at an incident in, for example, Melbourne.

“State and territory police forces remain the best first response to terrorist incidents, immediately after an attack starts,” Mr Turnbull said.

“But Defence can offer more support to states and territories to enhance their capabilities and increase their understanding of Defence’s unique capabilities, to ensure a comprehensive response to potential terrorist attacks.

“The overhaul will make it easier for Defence to work together with federal, state and territory police in the event of a terrorist incident.”

Mr Turnbull will announce the overhaul today at Sydney’s Holsworthy Barracks. The barracks is the home of the 2nd Commando Regiment, which deals with domestic counter-terrorism operations.

The changes will be made in partnership with states and territories, depending on their security needs.

Liberal MP and former SAS commander Andrew Hastie has been among those who argued for the call out powers to be modernised.

States and territories are currently unable to ask for military help until their capacity to respond to incidents has been exhausted.

The PM said the review of the Defence Force’s role in domestic counter-terrorism operations, the first since 2005, recognised the “changing nature of the threat as demonstrated in recent terrorist attacks around the world”.

“It is essential that Australia evolves its responses and counter-measures in response to the changing threat. Defence must be able to contribute effectively to domestic counter-terrorism efforts.”

this is bad , really bad , is like an undeclared martial law , 99% there are that just waiting on the final piece ?

[bluestflame]

They have the large concrete blocks in place in queen st mall in Brisbane. This only covers 3 main entrances to the mall, with the 4th having no blocks as it's the main delivery rout for courier trucks dropping off supplies to stores within the mall.

There are plenty of other areas, namely all the streets within an 8 block radius around queen st mall that are just as congested people wise have no protection whatsoever outside of on street parking generally limited to one side of the road where the parked cars would act as a barrier.


I don't understand why they're doing this. They've already disarmed us. What other laws and restrictions do they want to put in place that require attacks like this as justification??

i rekon they've use up the " imports , achieved thier purpose manufacturing consent for greater police powers, surveilance legislation, shoot to kill orders and now police with automatic weapons , could also have something to do with the draining of the swamp going global and all those clinton foundation donations from australian politicians , THAT would explain SO much