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boja
23rd December 2017, 07:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBipoRvap7I

Charles Harris
23rd December 2017, 07:37
At first I thought it looked like something entering our atmosphere.
Doesn't track that way though, appears to be under propulsion.

bennycog
23rd December 2017, 09:33
It was a shuttle taking satellites into orbit. Amazing sight to see. This could well be used for Project Bluebeam.

I wonder how many people thought this to be alien spacecraft straight up and what their reaction to seeing this, thinking it was otherworldly.

One day we will see regular occurrences of these type of lights in the sky with space exploration ramping up.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-space-x-sky-20171222-story.html
Officials had warned the launch could be seen across Southern California and beyond. But on the day before the holiday weekend, the streaks of light against the blue sky were something to behold.

Many people pulled over their cars to take photos and videos of the sight.

The Los Angeles Fire Department put out an advisory saying the “mysterious lights in the sky" was from the Vandenberg launch.

Harley
23rd December 2017, 09:33
Elon Musk says it was a "Nuclear Alien UFO From North Korea". :)

Actually it was the final launch of 2017 for the SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket.

It took off from Vandenberg Air Force Base, near Santa Barbara at around 5:30 p.m.

The reason that it was lit up like that is because the launch wasn't that long after ground-level sunset,
therefore at higher altitude the sun was still shining brightly.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRsdCpSUQAAIkLA.jpg

USA Today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2017/12/22/mysterious-bright-light-stuns-californians-after-spacex-rocket-launch/978546001/)

If you're still having difficulty with that maybe a Flat Earther can explain it better for ya! :)

Sunny-side-up
23rd December 2017, 11:09
Ok so 'final launch of 2017 for the SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket'

but can one enplane to me what we are actually seeing, I.E the 2 light dots at the end of the streak?

Frenchy
23rd December 2017, 12:14
Ok so 'final launch of 2017 for the SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket' -
but can one enplane to me what we are actually seeing, I.E the 2 light dots at the end of the streak?

Hi people !
Sunny, I've been looking thru my folders, but cannot ( as yet ) find the photo ( NOT a cgi image ! ) of the failed Magnesium - based incendary device, used by the govern ments, to fake these ' meteor-like events. They'll be sophisticated, I haven't seen any footage that they're ' steerable ', but they're definately launched in low altitude... ( I'm not going to say " inside the Dome, in case this is considered an abuse of " Free - Speech ;-) ! )
No, seriously, I don't think for one moment there's a Dome around our Globe ......
Perhaps, others here, or Guests, might find that photo, can't remember if it was Peru, all I remember, the photo was taken with sub- equatorial folks looking at the device - which had failed to completely burn out ...

justntime2learn
23rd December 2017, 19:14
Ok so 'final launch of 2017 for the SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket'

but can one enplane to me what we are actually seeing, I.E the 2 light dots at the end of the streak?

Possibly the first two stages falling back to Earth?

Joe from the Carolinas
24th December 2017, 09:22
How did a private company get to launch from an AFB?

Isn’t vandenberg the HQ of USAF space command missions?

This comes less than a month before the same company launches their gigantic rocket from cape canaveral FL?

Any idea what they are saying the missions are designed to do?

The Moss Trooper
24th December 2017, 10:02
I believe as part of their commercial operations, they will be launching satellites' for the AF/Navy & US Gov.

I would imagine some (if not most) of those payloads will be 'secret' in their nature, hence the use of those facilities.

Methinks.

Shadowself
24th December 2017, 13:40
How did a private company get to launch from an AFB?

Isn’t vandenberg the HQ of USAF space command missions?

This comes less than a month before the same company launches their gigantic rocket from cape canaveral FL?

Any idea what they are saying the missions are designed to do?

The mission was said to have launched to drop off 10 satellites in their intended orbit which apparently was successful.

As for Vandenberg being used by SpaceX...they launched their first Falcon 1 there and have used this site to launch on various other projects. It's not that unusual.

They talk about the SpaceX use here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandenberg_Air_Force_Base

Shadowself
24th December 2017, 13:48
I believe as part of their commercial operations, they will be launching satellites' for the AF/Navy & US Gov.

I would imagine some (if not most) of those payloads will be 'secret' in their nature, hence the use of those facilities.

Methinks.

Very possibly true on the secret nature of those satellites.

The Moss Trooper
24th December 2017, 14:07
I've heard a whisper, although not loud enough to fully relay it, that next year, 2018, there will be discovered a new energy source on/above Neptune. The Parker Solar Probe will be the finder. Also, with regard to Military Satellites, a new directed energy weapon that will 'freeze' the intended target.

We'll have to keep our eyes' peeled.

Shadowself
24th December 2017, 15:16
Iridium-4 is the payload and here is also the launch. This webcast explains the payload and it's purpose. If you go to 1:10 on the video it shows the starting release of the satellites.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q

seehas
24th December 2017, 17:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBipoRvap7I

found some better footage of the event


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2K96aY0tLw

Hervé
24th December 2017, 18:47
SpaceX rocket launch spooks Californians with eerie glowing trail (VIDEOS) (https://www.sott.net/article/372200-SpaceX-rocket-launch-spooks-Californians-with-eerie-glowing-trail-VIDEOS#)

Niall Bradley Sott.net (https://www.sott.net/article/372200-SpaceX-rocket-launch-spooks-Californians-with-eerie-glowing-trail-VIDEOS#)
Sun, 24 Dec 2017 11:50 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440968/large/spacex_launch.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440968/full/spacex_launch.jpg)
A still from video footage of the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch from Vandenberg US AFB. From left to right: the crescent moon, the rocket, and a detached booster. © Skyes9 / YouTube


The launch of a SpaceX rocket into orbit from California on Friday - the 18th and final launch of 2017 for SpaceX - left behind a trail of mystery and wonder as it soared into space. The Falcon 9 booster lifted off from coastal Vandenberg air force base, carrying the latest batch of satellites for Iridium Communications. Cars stopped on freeways in Los Angeles as millions across the US southwest watched in awe.

Spectacular footage of a glowing, billowing streak was widely seen throughout southern California and as far away as Phoenix, Arizona. Calls came in to TV stations and emergency services as far afield as San Diego, more than 200 miles south of the launch site, as people were spooked about what caused the strange sight.

Here's the event as seen from Anaheim, Los Angeles, 160 miles southeast of Vandenberg:


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The view from Phoenix, Arizona, which is 500 miles east-southeast of Vandenberg, was equally spectacular. Note that the reporter in the chopper was in the air to cover a traffic accident, not the SpaceX launch:


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In this last video we want to show you, reporter Jeff Platt for KBAK-KBFX Eyewitness News was actually covering the SpaceX launch, providing commentary on the event from lift-off to space from his vantage point in Bakersfield, California, which is 95 miles northeast of Vandenberg. Platt is reduced to saying, once the trail fans out into 'maximum-spectacular' mode, "At this point I really couldn't tell what exactly is happening [pause]... space travel isn't exactly my line of expertise."


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Back-lit by the sun?
Most media talking heads, however, did elect to explain the spectacular trail, claiming that it was a result of the sun 'back-lighting' the trail as the rocket reached higher into the atmosphere. It's a plausible theory, but it doesn't explain what happened. To begin with, if that's what this was, then it would happen every time a rocket is launched into space on a clear evening or night. But it doesn't.

If it was simply a matter of the sun hitting the trail, then the 'glowing effect' would, once it begins, remain constant. Instead, we observe that it starts, stops, then starts up again. Additionally, the sun doesn't usually 'light up' exhaust, not even exhaust laden with spent rocket fuel. A key factor making both the rocket and the trail so brightly illuminated is their electric charge differential relative to the surrounding space. In short, the illumination is a plasma effect, and latter stages of this footage shows not the trail, which would become smaller to the eye as the rocket travels further from the planet's surface, but a far-larger plasma tail.

Again we note that this doesn't happen every time a rocket is launched into space, but it does appear to be happening more and more often. There have been other rocket launches (a couple of which were possibly (https://www.sott.net/article/251268-Incoming-Meteor-or-Comet-Fragment-Explodes-Above-Southwestern-US-Prompting-US-Army-Missiles-Cover-up) cometary (https://www.sott.net/article/248094-Reading-Celestial-Intentions-Through-the-Wrong-End-of-the-Telescope-Missiles-UFOs-and-the-Cold-War) events passed off as 'rocket launches') in recent times that produced weird and unexpected displays. Check out this event (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzja1WpZPc) - apparently showing a Glonass-K1 rocket launch in northern Russia - from February 2011. Or this monster trail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCTDhX93Rl4&feature=related) from California in August 2009. Or this spiral display (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNExJvIy6kI&feature=player_embedded) filmed from southern Russia in December 2009, around the time of that 'blue spiral' event (https://www.sott.net/article/198632-Mystery-as-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-above-Norway) seen from Norway. And here's another (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rcJtFqhG9wQ#%21) ghostly apparition filmed from different angles over Kazakhstan in January 2011.


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440966/large/spacex_trail.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440966/full/spacex_trail.jpg)
The spectacular trail from the SpaceX launch on Friday 22 December 2017, as seen from Los Angeles, California. © Unknown


'It looks like a freaking comet!'
YouTubers commenting that the SpaceX rocket launch "looked like a freaking comet" were not far off the mark. As we've theorized in Earth Changes and the Human Cosmic Connection (https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Changes-Human-Cosmic-Connection/dp/1897244975), the atmosphere has become more electrically charged these days as it accumulates increased levels of comet dust (more generally termed 'meteor smoke (https://www.sott.net/article/271033-Increased-levels-of-meteor-smoke-in-upper-atmosphere-sees-noctilucent-clouds-cover-whole-of-Antarctica)') and volcanic dust. The atmospheric dust captures electrons that circulate from the (relatively) negatively-charged Earth to the positively-charged ionosphere, creating atmospheric regions with varying electric potential.

The atmosphere is not one homogeneous space - its electric potential varies according to elevation (as a general rule; the higher, the more positive) and to dust concentration (negatively-charged regions). The combustion particles in the rocket trail become electrically-charged (ionized) and when the electric potential difference between the ionized combustion particles and the surrounding space is sufficiently high, it glows.

This might account for what we saw in the recent launch footage: the 'glowing plasma' effect starts, then abruptly stops, then restarts as the rocket pierces different regions of the atmosphere. Once it restarts, it then produces discrete patterns as it moves through additional regions. The detached boosters are seen doing their own thing, while the remaining rocket and payload hit the upper atmosphere and the trail fans out with visible 'plasma jets' - which are more typically seen on comets:


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440977/large/rocket_jets.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440977/full/rocket_jets.jpg)
Still from the Bakersfield video: left is the rocket continuing its upward journey, right is a booster that has detached and is spiralling erratically. © KBAK-KBFX


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440981/large/closeuphubbl.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/440981/full/closeuphubbl.jpg)
These images were taken by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope as Comet 252P/LINEAR passed by Earth on 4 April 2016. © NASA, ESA, and J.-Y. Li (Planetary Science Institute)

uzn
25th December 2017, 03:38
How did a private company get to launch from an AFB?

Isn’t vandenberg the HQ of USAF space command missions?

This comes less than a month before the same company launches their gigantic rocket from cape canaveral FL?

Any idea what they are saying the missions are designed to do?

Space X (Elon Musk) is working for the NRO (deep state) for some time now.
see Thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97517-SpaceX--Elon-Musk--finally-gets-first-US-military-Contract-NROL-76-NRO&p=1150796&viewfull=1#post1150796