If you’re alive in 30 years, it’s likely you will be alive in 1,000 years…

[dynamo]

ALEXA ERICKSON
MAY 31, 2017

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It might sound crazy to the masses, but life extension is a real thing. The science, also known as anti-aging medicine, indefinite life extension, experimental gerontology, and biomedical gerontology, is the study of slowing down or reversing the processes that create aging. The result? Maximum and average lifespan extended. The question is, do we need tech? Or should we begin to look at why our life spans aren’t already longer?

If you try to envision it, you might find yourself lost in a futuristic sci-fi film you’ve already seen. But it’s more than a concept fit for the silver screen. Life extension is a very real science, and is currently being worked on as you read this.

According to some scientists, we are mere decades away from moving into life extension, which could change life as we know it forever.

Among those working avidly on the science is Ray Kurzweil, the chief engineer at Google. Kurzweil says we are approaching a time when humans will begin to significantly prolong their lifespans. He suggests that, by the time we have done so, we won’t have to worry about issues like supporting growing numbers of humans, because we will no longer be living in a world competing for finite resources.

For instance, he says, “Well within 15 years, say, we’ll be able to meet all of our energy needs from solar. And at that point, we will be using one part in 10,000 of the sunlight that falls on the Earth.” He also believes that, by then, we will have worked through the “resource-related limiting factors” currently stymying scientists and activists around the world.

If you think about being younger for longer, it’s a hard concept to visualize. With cells and DNA edited, and the regrowth of telomeres bringing back a youthful state, it’s a concept many people long for, but believe impossible. But it’s certainly already happening.

Increasing your life expectancy can be done just by eating the right foods, meditating, and taking part in regular exercise. Perhaps you would have died at 90, but such lifestyle changes tack on a year or two. Understanding the way these lifestyle factors, along with genetic therapy, function, makes maintaining youth and health for much longer a more realistic goal than you might think.

Will we, then, eventually die? Even this question cannot be answered, as we are bending the rules and finding new avenues to change what we know about life and death every day. Perhaps there could be a day when death is not absolute.

The advancement of computer technologies has opened the doors to so many once-unfathomable possibilities. We have, undoubtedly, seen advancement in ways science once deemed impossible, like 3D printers providing medicine with coded blueprints.

The “explosion” in exponential technologies like augmented and virtual realities makes life extension entirely tangible, according to Kurzweil: “Our experiences will be limited only by our imagination and the very expansion of our neocortex so we can create and experience more profound music and art and science and literature and relationships. I don’t think life will get boring.”

Pay close attention to how small advancements accumulate to make life extension nearer and nearer, because it’s happening yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and many scientists swear by it happening much sooner than one would ever imagine.

Why Our Lifespans Might Be Shorter Than What’s Possible

What if the human body was designed to live hundreds of years, but due to our diets, way of living, environmental toxins and so forth we deteriorate much more quickly? This is certainly a thought we must explore before we head aggressively into the tech side of life extension without addressing what may be the biggest cause: poor habit, faulty science and information around health and human life. This is obviously a philosophical thought but it has merit given the way our modern lifestyles are. There is much evidence to support this idea and will be explored in an upcoming story.

[Wind]

In case you happened to die tomorrow, you will still be alive because consciousness never dies. Only the physical body decays.

[dynamo]

In case you happened to die tomorrow, you will still be alive because consciousness never dies. Only the physical body decays.
True as that may be, the OP is referring to the physical body.
:clapping:
Big difference, just saying.
Long live our consciousness!
Then again, it would be kind of weird to live another 1000 years and watch the world unfold into a...
utopia, or dystopia?
Hmmm...

[O Donna]

You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.

[RunningDeer]

You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.


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[dynamo]

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Among those working avidly on the science is Ray Kurzweil, the chief engineer at Google. Kurzweil says we are approaching a time when humans will begin to significantly prolong their lifespans. He suggests that, by the time we have done so, we won’t have to worry about issues like supporting growing numbers of humans, because we will no longer be living in a world competing for finite resources.

For instance, he says, “Well within 15 years, say, we’ll be able to meet all of our energy needs from solar. And at that point, we will be using one part in 10,000 of the sunlight that falls on the Earth.” He also believes that, by then, we will have worked through the “resource-related limiting factors” currently stymying scientists and activists around the world.

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You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.
Maybe, maybe not...

[O Donna]

...
Among those working avidly on the science is Ray Kurzweil, the chief engineer at Google. Kurzweil says we are approaching a time when humans will begin to significantly prolong their lifespans. He suggests that, by the time we have done so, we won’t have to worry about issues like supporting growing numbers of humans, because we will no longer be living in a world competing for finite resources.

For instance, he says, “Well within 15 years, say, we’ll be able to meet all of our energy needs from solar. And at that point, we will be using one part in 10,000 of the sunlight that falls on the Earth.” He also believes that, by then, we will have worked through the “resource-related limiting factors” currently stymying scientists and activists around the world.

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You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.
Maybe, maybe not...

I like your thinking. Supposedly we are told though science anything is possible if as the saying goes we don't blow ourselves up or keep setting ourselves up for regression.

[Omni]

There are all sorts of false predictions happening related to future tech. I do not buy people will live to 1,000 if they survive 30 years. If someone did make it to 1,000 using our archaic tech and food their life quality would probably be in the cellar. They would effectively be like a grey extraterrestrial. Perhaps it would eventually require body add-ons and synthetic organs. No thanks, I'll skip being frankenstein.

[Justplain]

Whether it's in thirty years or three hundred, it is completely plausible that life extension technology will become available. The current understanding of the aging process, stem cell research and genetics, adding in the use of quantum super computers, makes this result extremely likely. Resource requirements will likely be supported through technical advances and the colonization of the solar system.

However, the overriding issue is our ethical and social development that goes along with this tech. Do we have the moral fibre to stop the use of this tech to further divide our society into strata of haves and have nots? Can we prevent transhumanism? Can we control rogue corporations that could turn this into a dystopia? Can we become more independent and spiritually advanced?

It would be a great enhancement to our spirits to be able to stay in one physical body, to be able to build off current life experiences. Ultimately, we need to be connected to our higher selves and past lives and live in communion with the multiverse, and that should be the goal of this exercise, otherwise it's just a waste of time.

[Wind]

Whether it's in thirty years or three hundred, it is completely plausible that life extension technology will become available. The current understanding of the aging process, stem cell research and genetics, adding in the use of quantum super computers, makes this result extremely likely. Resource requirements will likely be supported through technical advances and the colonization of the solar system.

However, the overriding issue is our ethical and social development that goes along with this tech. Do we have the moral fibre to stop the use of this tech to further divide our society into strata of haves and have nots? Can we prevent transhumanism? Can we control rogue corporations that could turn this into a dystopia? Can we become more independent and spiritually advanced?

It would be a great enhancement to our spirits to be able to stay in one physical body, to be able to build off current life experiences. Ultimately, we need to be connected to our higher selves and past lives and live in communion with the multiverse, and that should be the goal of this exercise, otherwise it's just a waste of time.

The problem with these transhumanist materialist scientists is that they see humans as robots and they think that merely by replacing "parts" you can extend the human lifespan. In theory that's true and it can be noble cause... But they have forgot one major part which is the soul and human spirit. Then again they don't even believe in it so they have left it completely out of the equation. They mistakenly see the brain as the sole creator of consciousness which is probably one of the biggest misconceptions that there currently is in the mainstream academia.

We may be a technologically savvy species, but without the spiritual understanding and wisdom technological progress can be potentially misguided and even dangerous. Technology is just a tool, a means to an end... But it shouldn't become our end.

[Jenya]

I bloody hope not. A normal 80 year lifespan on this mad planet is more than enough for me.

[O Donna]

All good points. Keep in mind, the negative aspects mention don't necessarily have to exist in the future as hard as that can be imagined considering current affairs.

[Rich]

maybe a simpler way would be to make a clone of your body and replace the aging body parts?

[chris_walker]

If this becomes true, then it will be a real tragedy for those who die in accidents and mishaps. What we really want is soul transfer technology so if we die in a mishap, we can transfer a soul into our clone. That way, we could also potentially live for a billion years or more on this planet, but is that what we really want. Can you imagine 1,000, 1,000,000 let alone 1,000,000,000 years living on earth?

[Rich]

The question is if someone would want to live that long.
If we turned into transhumans we would basically become super human.
It would be stronger, faster and self repairing much quicker.
And connected to AI we would have all information at our disposal all the time.

How much machine could one take on and still be considered a human?

[Ewan]

As if the underclasses will be allowed to live past 50.

Sounds like paradise in the minds of the 5%. (That would be the insane psychopaths then).

[Matt P]

Well, if we were living to 1,000 it would be easier for us to colonize other planets. 40/50 years in stasis during travel wouldn’t be a big deal.

Matt

[ghostrider]

according to the prochecies the original sin done by the creator overlords, genetic tampering will be undone , and humans on earth will live to 300-400 years old ... science will discover the aging gene , and make the correction ...

[bobme]

Interesting thread, thank you'

As I see it, we have been around here forever. A thousand years is but a millasecond to us.

You are all very unique individuals. I am sure we have all met before.

We will again.:happythumbsup:

[Carmody]

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Among those working avidly on the science is Ray Kurzweil, the chief engineer at Google. Kurzweil says we are approaching a time when humans will begin to significantly prolong their lifespans. He suggests that, by the time we have done so, we won’t have to worry about issues like supporting growing numbers of humans, because we will no longer be living in a world competing for finite resources.

For instance, he says, “Well within 15 years, say, we’ll be able to meet all of our energy needs from solar. And at that point, we will be using one part in 10,000 of the sunlight that falls on the Earth.” He also believes that, by then, we will have worked through the “resource-related limiting factors” currently stymying scientists and activists around the world.

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You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.
Maybe, maybe not...

I like your thinking. Supposedly we are told though science anything is possible if as the saying goes we don't blow ourselves up or keep setting ourselves up for regression.

Fossil fuels blown away by wind in cost terms: study (https://techxplore.com/news/2018-01-fossil-fuels-blown-terms.html)

[Sunny-side-up]

In case you happened to die tomorrow, you will still be alive because consciousness never dies. Only the physical body decays.

That in my view is where a possible answer might lie, a frightening answer IE
Consciousness transfer, from old body into fresh younger new. Lots of overtones in that ha

[Sunny-side-up]

You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.

Or maybe smaller people :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rbI3eN_ow

[wnlight]

Do you really think that many people would be allowed to take advantage of any significant age lengthening medical advances? The USA has the best medical care system that money can buy. But it takes a lot of money! Health care in the USA has been made very expensive so as to be a means to suck up any family’s life savings and reduce them to the lower aconomic class.

Humanity’s best bet for good, long-lasting health will come from more spiritual means. You better start meditating now!

[Justplain]

I think regarding cloning bodies and becoming transhuman, the ethical and spiritual advisability of these courses of action really require a direct connection to our higher selves to determine what is correct. My instincts warn not to get to techie in this matter. Finding ways that work in conjunction with Mother Earth and Mother Nature are likely the best. I have read that the ancients learned of life extension methods and I would guess that they were more natural than anything our scientists envision.

And regarding our souls, I believe a member of PA can remember a lifetime from 60 million years ago, so our souls have been around for a very long time, and likely much much longer than we can comprehend. It would be extremely wise for us to consult our spirits to see what they think.

[O Donna]

Do you really think that many people would be allowed to take advantage of any significant age lengthening medical advances? The USA has the best medical care system that money can buy. But it takes a lot of money! Health care in the USA has been made very expensive so as to be a means to suck up any family’s life savings and reduce them to the lower aconomic class.

Humanity’s best bet for good, long-lasting health will come from more spiritual means. You better start meditating now!

Appreciable angle, wnlight.

If history tells us anything about changes in society, whole new industries would pop up to replace medical care.

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Lithium? :jester:

[O Donna]

You're going to need a bigger planet! said Martin Brody or something like that.

Or maybe smaller people :)


That crossed my mind too. :)

Creativity drives innovation.

[Cardillac]

if what I've read is correct our genome is meant to live ca. 120 yrs.

there's a folk that lives in/near the Ural mts. in Russia that lives an average of 120 yrs; some can live up to 150;

I saw a documentary on TV about this folk many yrs. ago (but can't remember folk's name)- it was fascinating; but was many yrs. ago-

but this folk is dying off because their youth have discovered "civilization" and are moving away from this area only to die at a much earlier age thanks to what we call civilization-

a former Russian colleage of mine brought this subject to my attention (I had already seen documentary) completely un-provoked; he had no idea I'd already seen a western TV documentary on this subject but he started the conversation on this subject; the existence of this folk (what's left of it) seems to be known amongst many Russians-

Larry

[Intranuclear]

Oh God, can you imagine 1000 year old psychopaths plundering the cosmos creating and absorbing empires at any cost.
Also, why would anyone assume that the most important tech will be available for just anyone without obscene cost.

Further, in order to survive space travel and merely exist outside of the earth's magnetic and electric fields for any significant period, one would have to dramatically alter or supplant our DNA.
This kind of tech also does not yet exists, but if it does, well then we are talking about hybrids aren't we?

And lets suppose that some of humanity does indeed have or will have access to all of this tech, then I would think that now, humanity will indeed be a threat to the real powerful aliens.
It would be remarkably naive to assume that humans will be allowed to continue without it being in someone's best interests, and I certainly am not talking about humans.

We could of course just assume that everything will just turn out to be wonderful and the universe will simply bow to our greatness; us being God's favorite creation.

[dynamo]

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It would be remarkably naive to assume that humans will be allowed to continue without it being in someone's best interests, and I certainly am not talking about humans.
We could of course just assume that everything will just turn out to be wonderful and the universe will simply bow to our greatness; us being God's favorite creation.
well that's one opinion and of course, I do respect it...
i tend to think that bottlenose dolphins are.
they look as though they are always smiling LOL!
https://englishworldacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/funny-dolphin.jpg

[Carmody]

with respect to genetic research, immortality is literally just around the corner and is getting closer every day.

Local to me, a company is in the midst of perfecting mass stem cell production. Meaning, pick a stem cell with a particular genetic backdrop, say yours..and produce it in mass numbers, ie, by the kilo. From that any organ can be recreated. They can already produce the targeted stem cells. Getting the mass production method working is the task at hand.

Then there is the other method found recently, the one about the 'starter' technique'. where organs or limbs or components of given bodily systems can be caused to regrow themselves. This is already proven and workable. Animal testing phases are ongoing as we speak.

Immortality, physical immortality or a very extended lifespan is ..pretty well here.

If you are alive today, you will likely be here for another 100 years and if you are here in 100 years, you will likely be here in a thousand.

Your job is to prevent the sociopaths who control the world today from forcing the world's decimation in social and cultural structure and growth... so they can keep the control they have (through said decimation, depopulation and downturn in overall intelligence, education, and social/cultural structure, etc).

Eg, the forced mess in Europe right now, so they can use this to foment their war.

[Hazelfern]

Do you really think that many people would be allowed to take advantage of any significant age lengthening medical advances? The USA has the best medical care system that money can buy. But it takes a lot of money! Health care in the USA has been made very expensive so as to be a means to suck up any family’s life savings and reduce them to the lower economic class.

Humanity’s best bet for good, long-lasting health will come from more spiritual means. You better start meditating now!

That's right, only ppl with money get the best healthcare. No great surprise, look at old man Bush. He's still alive, yes?
Closer to home, a sibling had hep c for years and waited until she could get the new treatment that apparently obliterated the nasty virus.
The best insurance was the only way to obtain it at the time.

[dynamo]

That's right, only ppl with money get the best healthcare. No great surprise, look at old man Bush. He's still alive, yes?
Closer to home, a sibling had hep c for years and waited until she could get the new treatment that apparently obliterated the nasty virus.
The best insurance was the only way to obtain it at the time.
Yup.
Look at Keith Richards, see what a blood transfusion once a year can do for a person?
LOL, JK!!!
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11293536.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Keith-Richards-on-Desert-Island-Discs.jpg

[O Donna]

Selling your soul for a chance at immortality, win a stupid prize.

[Leonard]

Have you ever heard of Zhang Sanfeng (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Sanfeng)?

He is a legendary Chinese Taoist who have achieved immortality. I know it is a myth but he is a Tai Chi Chuan Master. I have a couple of Tai Chi sessions with 50-70+ years old Masters. And I can tell you they pretty much look 20 years younger. They are Strong, they can do things which some of the 20s/30s adults can't do. I asked them how they do it. They said you have to train your chi. Train to cultivate it and use it. Our strength lies in our chi, it is also our life force.

[cecilmeyer]

I agree will life extension ever be for the have nots or do we like you mentioned, let the corporate monsters that drive our world to destruction be in control of something that should be for all humanity?

[chris_walker]

with respect to genetic research, immortality is literally just around the corner and is getting closer every day.

Local to me, a company is in the midst of perfecting mass stem cell production. Meaning, pick a stem cell with a particular genetic backdrop, say yours..and produce it in mass numbers, ie, by the kilo. From that any organ can be recreated. They can already produce the targeted stem cells. Getting the mass production method working is the task at hand.

Then there is the other method found recently, the one about the 'starter' technique'. where organs or limbs or components of given bodily systems can be caused to regrow themselves. This is already proven and workable. Animal testing phases are ongoing as we speak.

Immortality, physical immortality or a very extended lifespan is ..pretty well here.

If you are alive today, you will likely be here for another 100 years and if you are here in 100 years, you will likely be here in a thousand.

Your job is to prevent the sociopaths who control the world today from forcing the world's decimation in social and cultural structure and growth... so they can keep the control they have (through said decimation, depopulation and downturn in overall intelligence, education, and social/cultural structure, etc).

Eg, the forced mess in Europe right now, so they can use this to foment their war.Interesting information Carmody? Do you have any links to share? Thanks.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Have you ever heard of Zhang Sanfeng (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Sanfeng)?

He is a legendary Chinese Taoist who have achieved immortality. I know it is a myth but he is a Tai Chi Chuan Master. I have a couple of Tai Chi sessions with 50-70+ years old Masters. And I can tell you they pretty much look 20 years younger. They are Strong, they can do things which some of the 20s/30s adults can't do. I asked them how they do it. They said you have to train your chi. Train to cultivate it and use it. Our strength lies in our chi, it is also our life force.

I’m a big fan of mastering the inner game, your link on Zhang Sanfeng says he only lived 300 years or so. That’s a great achievement but that is not immortal (unless the same physical person has done some interviews recently)?