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wynderer
19th August 2012, 01:08
from UFO Digest -- these kinds of cruelties might give those who are planning to hop aboard the first ship that invites them pause for thought

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/mass-cattle-mutilations-formosa-argentina

Mass Cattle Mutilations in Formosa Argentina
. By Scott Corrales - 2 days 9 hours ago
By Andrea Pérez Simondini

We had barely emerged from the commotion caused by cases in Entre Rios when news of a mutilated calf found in Formosa caught our attention.

We are facing a case that suggests many others being hitherto concealed, due to cattlemen’s fear of being exposed to public scorn and ridicule.

Technical Information:

Location: Fontana – Formosa Province

Animal Owner:

Case 1: Roxana Sanchez

Case 2: Neco Canesin

Case 3: Neighboring Field (NN)

Animals:

Case 1: 1 calf

Case 2: 6 cows

Case 3: 9 cowsIncisions:

Case 1: Extraction of eyes and tongue. Animal missing its tail, testicles and reproductive organ.

Case 2: Tongue missing up to the hyoid bone. Extraction of the ocular organ.

The first news item on the case appeared on Radio Siete 93.7 FM with the following title:

“A Chupacabras Report from the Fontana Area”

Cattlewoman Roxana Sanchez reprots that nearly a dozen animals were attacked, expaining that she witnessed – along with her son – how a calf “was being eaten from the inside while still alive, missing its eyes and tongue, but still making sounds.” The animal was missing its tail, testicles and reproductive organ.

She noted: “Over the past year, five calves [were mutilated] in our own property, but six cases involving cows can be added to them. There nine cases in a single night in a neighboring field. There are people who do not believe, and when one tells them [what happened] they look at us as if thinking we’re crazy. So one no longer wants to discuss such matters, since no one will believe.”

“We had our first case last year. One day we woke up at five in the morning because my husband had to go to work. One of our calves was lost. It reappeared at night, and when we went out – just about to get out of the pickup truck, we saw large fluorescent green eyes, but couldn’t tell what animal [they belonged to] but it was very tall. When I went to see what it was, it vanished. When we returned by midday, we found it [the calf] without eyes or tongue,” explained the witness.

She stressed that “the last calf to die had been on the ground for four hours. It was my husband who picked it up. It walked around like a zombie. We then took it to pen and kept it under observation. We couldn’t see any crows; we could tell they were around, but they didn’t fly until four days later, and the dogs won’t come near.”

She finally added: “The calves become paralyzed from back to front. This lasts between 24 to 48 hours until the calf is completely paralyzed. It doesn’t move at all, doesn’t kick, nothing. No blood is spilled.”

The other case involved local cattleman Neco Canesin, bearing the title “Local Rancher Displays Dead Calf Oddly Slain in its Pen”, where he remarks on what happened to one of his calves.

Neco Canesín remarked in a video on Facebook that he found one of his calves dead in its pen. “There are no marks, nothing at all. Something removed its tongue and even the torso,” says the video. “The incision is like a burn; the bones are white.”

“It’s a mystery to me,” says Neco, his face displaying astonishment and surprise. “I was in Formosa and then I found out about this. I never believed in this stuff, until it happened to me.” He is astonished by what happened on his own property, being unable to find a logical answer to the case, to which other animal deaths in Formosa can now be added.

Source: Canal 7, Ibarreta[Translation (c) 2012, S. Corrales (IHU). Special thanks to Guillermo Gimenez, Planeta UFO and Silvia and Andrea Perez Simondini, Vision OVNI)

Visit Scott's website: Inexplicata-The Journal of Hispanic Ufology

Vitalux
19th August 2012, 02:07
Well we should remember that the Aliens the come here from outer space are here to serve man
They even have a book they follow " How to Serve Man"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6e5j8SUpU1qeaiero1_400.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI

ghostrider
19th August 2012, 13:38
molecular dissassociation still happening.

Marsila
19th August 2012, 19:45
Well Formosa in Argentina, is famous for being one of the provinces were Monsanto's genetically modified Soy had been planted big time. Nothing to do with aliens (although a lot of sitings in that country tbh, just not in this case)

It makes humans real sick, so maybe it got into what the cows eat.

http://forwhatwearetheywillbe.blogspot.ch/2012/08/argentina-where-monsanto-has-license-to.html

I won't be surprised if they are trying to chase off all the Gaucho's off their land, so that they just use the grass land to plant more of their 'crops'.

mojo
19th January 2016, 02:54
Is it possible human researchers in milabs have been behind the cattle mutilations? Using history as our guide there appears to be a lack of evidence going back in time and is a more recent phenomenon. The ETs might never have been involved but blamed as the culprits instead of a more sinister group of humans performing experiments and playing at being God creating all kinds of Chimera.

Finally they are showing off and releasing some of the scientific experiments trying to put a good spin on what they did. Here is an article by MIT technology review that is incredible. Here is the title of the article with the link below. Human-Animal Chimeras Are Gestating on U.S. Research Farms


Braving a funding ban put in place by America’s top health agency, some U.S. research centers are moving ahead with attempts to grow human tissue inside pigs and sheep with the goal of creating hearts, livers, or other organs needed for transplants.

The effort to incubate organs in farm animals is ethically charged because it involves adding human cells to animal embryos in ways that could blur the line between species.


Here is where it gets real scary. Thomas Castillo of the Dulce Underground Base Security mentions hundreds of prison cells where humans and other lifeforms are kept performing all kinds of bizarre experiments on them. What if it were true?

In the article it mentions. "The agency, in a statement, said it was worried about the chance that animals’ “cognitive state” could be altered if they ended up with human brain cells." In another statement they mention. "The human-animal mixtures are being created by injecting human stem cells into days-old animal embryos, then gestating these in female livestock."

This is simply either a breakaway civilization at work or some other nefarious group of people. And what about those poor lifeforms that are part human? Whom is watching out for their rights and life or does it matter? Perhaps some of the negative ETs are working with humans but also what if the ETs were PLFs ie: created program lifeforms by the scientist creating chimeras and not true ETs in the sense of being true extraterrestrials?

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/545106/human-animal-chimeras-are-gestating-on-us-research-farms/

Curiosity
19th January 2016, 03:05
I'm sure it will be ETs that they will blame it on when they get caught and exposed.

Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 06:35
Did you know that bovine haemoglobin is used in the human IVF process?


Interesting, no?


Regards.

Frenchy
19th January 2016, 12:34
Hi folks !
On your side of the pond, you might not have come across Richard D Hall
Prisinplanet.net, excellent high-quality research, ( diverse, critical subjects, Maddy ( Madeline Mc Cannn, False Flag - Multiple Murdres, Cumbria, and loads others ...)

Amongst these, he has a couple of reports on Animal Multilations, these are top notch...

Mojo, in our community, it should be easily accepted that the truth is, we are being farmed for food ( and spare parts, etc ) Imo, the queens cousin was locked away, for she might have talked about the habits of the monarchy and church... ans Princess anne kept a VERY low profile since the late seventies, I reckon she could not bear the rituals...

I watched, with my Mum, in the early seventies, a three-part on British TV, called 'Chimera', the message has been befor our faces for so long....

peace and awareness...

lucidity
19th January 2016, 12:55
something i've been puzzling over recently is:
When these animals are exsanguinated (they have all their blood removed)
why is *all* the blood removed ?

It makes no sense...if this is a scientific or monitoring project.
If we humans want to test a chimpanzee or gorilla for infections or pathogens.
We take a few millimetres of blood... send it to the lab, and the lab runs whatever tests are required.

Why, when the aliens exsanguinate an animal do they take *all* the blood ?
You don't need *all* the blood to test the blood for toxins, bacteria etc.

These aliens are super-efficient at removing the blood from these animals.
They seem to be able to remove 99% of the blood and waste none of it by
spilling it on the ground. It's a remarkable feature of animal mutilations
that there's virtually never any evidence of massive blood loss on the
ground at the site of the mutilation.

My theory is that the *main* reason for the animal/human mutilations is the
collection of large volumes of blood. The mutiliations are simply tests
on the animal's health (and hence the quality of the blood)

Perhaps these aliens are carnivores.

Given the frequent parallels between Hollywood movies and the UFO reality,
I wonder if there is some correspondence between the recent increase in
vampire movies and the ongoing cattle (and human) mutilation cases.
I can't help reflecting that vampires traditionally have mind control
abilities... just as is reported by abductees of their captors.

Summary:
The reason for the animal/human mutilations is:
The collection of large volumes of blood: The aliens are carnivores.

be happy

lucidity

Sunny-side-up
19th January 2016, 14:02
Hmm! yes taking all the blood is an issue.
Somewhere amidst the Chem-trail info, vids was something about Blood Cells being found in our sky's/air, has that got something to do with it ?

The making of 'Chimera', well maybe making of 'PLF's' and avatars is the reason?
Maybe to be used in some mass shoot out as part of a 'False-Flag-Alien-Invasion'
Monsters as well!

Adding:

Maybe said cattle have been altered so that Human-vampires can live on that blood 0.o

john.d
19th January 2016, 14:12
Bashar said in one of his recent videos that the cattle mutilations were done by the grays to make a base for DNA manipulation within the hybridisation program (which is on a massive scale ) .
Quite exciting I thought :-)

Rhah
19th January 2016, 16:56
something i've been puzzling over recently is:
When these animals are exsanguinated (they have all their blood removed)
why is *all* the blood removed ?

Ex-Sergeant Major of the US Army Donald J. Potts recently posted a video on his facebook to which he gave an explanation of why and how these animal mutilations happen, and gives a reason for why they take all of their blood instead of just a small amount. Hence why I thought you might be interested in his explanation.

This is the video:
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(I personally think it's a fake)

However, his explanation is interesting nonetheless:


This event happened on the autobahn in Germany in 2013. The autobahn cameras captured the beam of light, and the commercial tractor trailer being lifted high into the sky before it was dropped back down. This event was witnessed by several eye witnesses. The local media stations ran the camera footage and interviewed the eye witnesses, including the truck's driver.

[...]

Furthermore, I want to tell people this is the same way that animal mutilations have always occurred. It is also the same way they do abductions of people, even while in moving cars or sleeping in bed, then they wipe most of their memories, and the abductees lose track of time when they wake up after the abduction. Those crafts were however piloted by malevolent beings called the Greys that live in the Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs). The malevolent Greys are the slaves of the Dracos, kind of like we are as citizen worker slaves. They would fly over the animal (usually a cow, horse, or buffalo) beam them up to the craft by tractor beam. The Greys would then remove all tissue with mucous membranes such as the lips, tongue, inside the ears, anus, sexual organs, several internal organs, and even all of the animal's blood. The organs and even fetus (if the animal was pregnant) would be removed by simply going inside the animal in a higher dimension and pulling the organs and fetus out through the animal without making any kind of incision. Investigators could see the things that looked cored out actually didn't even cut through a cell, they go between the cells at the microscopic level by doing an inter-dimensional removal (higher dimension/frequency above 3D). Just like the benevolent ET pulled the cargo out of the moving truck, or the other video where the craft beamed the helicopter into another dimension. The animal would then be dropped from the flying craft at 20 to 50 feet above the ground which often caused legs, neck, or ribs to break from the fall. Lastly, the Greys have to bathe in the blood & mucous membranes since they both feed & excrete through their skin. For more information on the Greys, animal mutilations, and bathing in mucous membrame soup as a way to feed, watch this interview of Thomas Castello from the Deep Underground Military Base (DUMB) underneath the mountains near Dulce, New Mexico.

This is Donald J. Potts in his army uniform:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12540803_1063737720353790_4596976501403760742_n.jpg?oh=703c47a1ceb9875a06f4512d2acc5694&oe=57439C59&__gda__=1463061073_79a053b0bd3c0ffb985954bcc386712a

Look him up on facebook if you want, he often posts some very interesting stuff. Plus he has a facebook group to which he's in the process of uploading all of his research material including loads of photos, documents, and books.

Hope this was helpful for you Lucidity :)

Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 18:19
If you are looking for extra-terrestrials for an answer to the animal mutilation phenomena..............

The very human IVF process uses bovine haemoglobin. Just think about that. Haemoglobin is the iron-containing oxygen-transport metalloprotein in the red blood cells of all vertebrates..... So, in the IVF process of fertilisation (by manually combining an egg and sperm in a laboratory dish, and then transferring the embryo to the uterus) bovine haemoglobin is used to help grow a human embryo.

Bovine haemoglobin is used to help grow human embryos. That is a fact.

Aliens bathing in blood and the like.......... fill yer boots if you like, but you ain't helping.


Regards.

mojo
19th January 2016, 18:27
We know the rabbit hole is deep and body parts are taken not just blood which can be used for a variety of things. The main point is to say humans are not above doing this. We know the governments create false flags and proof of experiments ie: the recent article in MIT just helps to connect some dots. We will never find all the answers. ETs have been here through history and cattle abductions/mutilations are a more recent phenomenon. There is a strong correlation to say humans are involved.

mojo
19th January 2016, 18:49
more supporting evidence.
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edit: Thought to add the interview with Gabe Valdez for those that wish to know more.
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Im no longer a fan of Greer but sometimes he does bring out some good points.
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Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 18:50
mojo wrote:



We know the rabbit hole is deep and body parts are taken not just blood which can be used for a variety of things. The main point is to say humans are not above doing this. We know the governments create false flags and proof of experiments ie: the recent article in MIT just helps to connect some dots. We will never find all the answers. ETs have been here through history and cattle abductions/mutilations are a more recent phenomenon. There is a strong correlation to say humans are involved.

Exactly mojo. People focus too much on the circumstances of the mutilation programme, the wounds, the exsanguination, etc, etc. Across all the different species of animal, including humans, the body parts taken are pretty much all the same and taken in the same way. There is only one exception to this, and that is the mutilation of seals.

When you delve deep into this subject the evidence leads to very-Earthly protagonists. There have been 3 large farms within my family for decades. Recorded in the farm journals are details of various,strange, fatal 'accidents' that have happened to many animals in strange circumstances. What I found interesting was who compensated my great-grandfather and grandfather......... The MOD.


Regards.

mojo
19th January 2016, 18:53
If you watch the video above the ending mentions the gov will never tell. Im not sure how important it is to be a voice to possible humans being abducted and mutilated or animals that were turned into chimeras with very human attributes and sentient beings themselves? Shouldnt the government be held responsible?

lucidity
19th January 2016, 19:42
more supporting evidence.
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edit: Thought to add the interview with Gabe Valdez for those that wish to know more.
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It's preposterous to suggest that the US Military stole these cattle,
performed highly complex surgical procedures on them,
including removing all the animals blood, in order to
(1) perform experiments on them and
(2) to blame the aliens.

First: The US military is a wealthy organisation, it can simply buy cattle
to perform experiments on them. It doesn't need to steal cattle from farmers.
This just isn't plausible.

Second: The US Military have been vehemently denying that aliens exist.
Yet here we're being asked to believe that the US military has gone to bizarrely
extreme lengths to blame the aliens for animal mutilations.
Again, it's just not plausible.


This Gabe Valdez book is clearly disinformation aimed to denying the alien reality.
It's just nonsense.

be happy

lucidity

Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 19:45
Is it now, lucidity?


It's preposterous to suggest that the US Military stole these cattle,
performed highly complex surgical procedures on them,
including removing all the animals blood, in order to
(1) perform experiments on them and
(2) to blame the aliens.

And why would that be?


Regards.

Rhah
19th January 2016, 19:57
Regarding the involvement of the US government in the abduction of human beings, I found a couple of relevant passages in a book I quoted from recently for another thread, called "TEXT" but W. C. Vetsch:


In 1953, the Greys are said to have established formal agreements with the Earth by means of a contract signed by President Eisenhower. This contract promises that the Greys will give high technology and that the Earth will give the Greys whatever they need to survive.
The Greys are parasites and what they "need to survive" is a stockpile of human beings to consume. Also, they have come to the end of their natural cycle of existence under the Universal Laws: They cannot reproduce and the cloning techniques that they have been using are now failing.


Lifestyles of the Greys
[...]
Their argument for continued support and association with Earth Government is that they will help defend the Earth (i.e., its Elite) from their reptile friends if they attack.


Feeding the Greys
The Greys need to eat - we promised to feed them in the contract (or, rather, our "leaders" promised to feed them).
Food, for the Greys, is supposed to consist of two classes of components. One is physical, the other Astral.
The physical component is a chemical or chemicals that can be found in Humans when they are in highly agitated emotional states. The corresponding Astral component is raw emotional "energy".
To provide the Astral "food", a sufficiently large group of Humans needs to be kept emotionally "sexed up".
The preferred way to do this is to have them involved in a war - the more terrible the war and the more atrocities committed the higher is the level of "food production".
To provide the physical component of the food, physical people (citizens) must be abducted and then "prepared" for feeding by being terrified which maximizes the quantity of the desired substance.

The Greys absorb this substance through their bodies as opposed to eating. To do this, they hop into what is essentially a bowl of "soup" and in this soup are the chopped up physical bodies of the humans. Children have been found to be most desirable for making this "soup" because they can be easily terrified (ever wonder
where all those "missing children" went).

The above correlates with my quotation of Sergeant Major Potts earlier in this thread: "the Greys have to bathe in the blood & mucous membranes since they both feed & excrete through their skin."

Finally, a short passage regarding hybridization:


The Greys are a doomed race. Under the laws of nature, they have reached the end of their time. They cannot reproduce any more. Their cloning tricks are failing; Their latest trick of attempting to make a new "hybrid" body for themselves by kidnapping pregnant human women and splicing "bug genes" into the unborn child to make some new "creature" is not working too good either.
The Illuminati people who work with the Greys and control the Earth, are also doomed. They have violated every Universal Law, committed every possible sin, and gone against every principle of God that it is possible to do.

mojo
19th January 2016, 20:34
I dont think it's a branch of the military per say, we can look at contractors to the government just as their are contractors like Boeing, MacDonald Douglas, working on secret black projects, etc etc. To say the military would buy cattle would raise a few eyebrows. IMO the staunch point of view that is being expressed goes back to stating that "all ETS are bad," does it not? The premise of this thread is to broaden the scope. Its not ETs that are doing the tests as the MIT article suggests but humans. I don't mind hearing a pov that is contrary but saying it's preposterous that it's humans ie secret black ops is like saying its not possible, and that's totally preposterous...

Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 20:38
Why would they go to the trouble and expense of raising cattle, when they can have someone else take care of all of that without any involvement on their behalf, and then just take them whenever they needed cow haemoglobin?

Why would you, you'd just take them. That's how that mindset is.



Regards.

Limor Wolf
19th January 2016, 21:07
This is an interesting and an important discussion, thank you, mojo and all. There is a use to make us believe that every negative act originates from our human society, but that is not so. Earth is controled for millenia by certain inter-dimensional species (no, not all ET's are 'bad') who dictate it's conduct and impact it's human behavior, and institutions are very much obeying and operating for this force. The psychology sold to us however, is the known tactic of divide and rule where the citizens are always dwelling on the conflicts within themselves and are not able to see beyond that level. When capturing a planet and it's inhabitants there is no better plan than to occupy them by causing internal dissent and civil war (and such human front is certainly presented and used for our arrows to be directed at).

Here is a reflective segment from Marshal vian Summer's Book - The Allies of humanity' which I believe provides a good description in one short paragraph-


"It will not be the visitors who will destroy those who will not and can not cooperate, it will be the visitors' human counterparts, their human representatives, who will carry out such destruction. In this way, the real nature and purpose of the intervention remains hidden and such acts will simply be attributed to human violence and demonstrate the need for the intervention..

Blessings ~

Limor

Andrew
19th January 2016, 21:25
I'm sure it will be ETs that they will blame it on when they get caught and exposed.

Yes, or the Nazi's.

Citizen No2
19th January 2016, 21:58
Hey,

all I am saying is, it is in my view, gained from my experience, that what I have seen with my own eyes leads me to believe that the mutilation programme has earthly origins. Experience........ beyond a youtube education.

No more, no less.

Regards.

Matthew
19th January 2016, 22:16
It's not just a US phonomenom. Here;s Bizarre UK Animal Mutilations Continue by David Cayton (below)

The best 'normal' argument I've heard against the evidance is that it's the work of microbes. Doesn't come close to explaining away even half the evidance but I wanted to note that.

Following this stuff, I see horrific waste. Not just the macabreness but the waste. Whatever's doing this doesn't care. I take the phonomenom at face value .. an attempt at intimidation not just harvesting. I expect this behaviour from humans ... I'm open to the idea it's caused by non-terrestrials. Because I hold the belief some humans have ufo craft, in my mind it could be either

Here's that UK video.

Warning it's pretty gruesome. Wouldn't want to watch it while eating your dinner

t-tXOKDqthc

mojo
19th January 2016, 22:25
Thank you all Avalon friends. I personally have experienced positive contact going on 8 years this fall with a whole archive of footage to show. But even so I also believe that there are some bad ETs. Phillip Schneider has presented some amazing testimony and actually battled with negative ETs underground. I think Limor made some good points also and Lucidity as much as I dont agree with your POV appreciate you sharing. I would though suggest more openness to others experience and opinions. I don't have all the answers and anyone that claims to I would be suspicious of.

Matthew
19th January 2016, 23:01
I'm into the idea the ETs liek humans are a mixbag of good and bad. With the exception of some posative experiences I'm suspicious of greater civilisations interacting with lesser civilisation. Our planets international history as an example. Typically the 'greater' civilisation wants something and exploits their celebrety to get it, or lies, or are violent, or all of them! And good ones wouldn't do any of that. So when we see ET's typically I believe its bad, but not always bad just probably. I also think a better analogy would be poachers vs gorillas.

But here is my favouret idea to date: My pure fantasy I'm afraid but I will share it. There are alien abductions and some mutilations then the humans with ufos realised they could enjoy playing with beam weapons under the cover of that and cause separation from not yet encountered good ets, and general fear

lucidity
20th January 2016, 02:22
It's not just a US phonomenom. Here;s Bizarre UK Animal Mutilations Continue by David Cayton (below)

The best 'normal' argument I've heard against the evidance is that it's the work of microbes. Doesn't come close to explaining away even half the evidance but I wanted to note that.

Following this stuff, I see horrific waste. Not just the macabreness but the waste. Whatever's doing this doesn't care. I take the phonomenom at face value .. an attempt at intimidation not just harvesting. I expect this behaviour from humans ... I'm open to the idea it's caused by non-terrestrials. Because I hold the belief some humans have ufo craft, in my mind it could be either

Here's that UK video.

Warning it's pretty gruesome. Wouldn't want to watch it while eating your dinner

t-tXOKDqthc

Good post YoYoYo,

Such excellent evidence in that video.

I have some questions for those people that suggest that the
military are doing these mutilations:

=> Are the military travelling to the high mountains of the Himalayas
to inflict mutilations .... on Yaks ????
=> Are the military performing mutilations on foxes in southern England ?
=> Are the military performing mutilations on deer ?
=> Are the military performing mutilations on seals off the Norfolk coast ?

=> Do you really think the military have been running round, since the 1960s,
abducting farm animals and wild animals, to perform experiments on them
and to blame aliens for the mutilation ? Seriously, you think that ?

The big explosive issue here. Isn't the animal mutilations. It's the human mutilations.
Once the reality of the animal mutilations becomes common knowledge, it wont be long
before the reality of the human mutilations phenomenon also becomes common knowledge.

In the above video there is evidence of 6 human bodies being found in Dalby Forest.
In previous videos by Richplanet there was mention of 2 human bodies being mutilated
in the Brekon Beacons plus 2 further human bodies discovered with UFO retrieval teams
in the UK. So that's a total of 10 human mutilation cases in the UK.

But that's just the ones we know about at the moment. This phenomenon
is subject to official secrecy and cover up; so what's the true total number of human
mutilations ?

be happy

lucidity

mojo
20th January 2016, 03:21
I can't answer the post because you don't seem to be open to other plausible explanations. Nor did you take time to answer my question in that your premise is completely based on all ETS are bad. For example I tried telling you that it's not military. The whole post above references military involvement. Think Black ops and maybe it will make more sense.

PS, The explosive issue in the OP is that scientists are creating human/animal chimeras and thats a fact.

william r sanford72
20th January 2016, 04:52
seen my fair share of mutilated cattle in my time living on or near farms and cows all my life.In 2011 December a couple months before my first conscious contact with an unknown craft the family had all gatherd for a Christmas dinner when out the window I began watching our cows proceed to run...the whole heard....about 40 head...back and forth they ran...they wasn't scattering and it was to my view as if they were being herded..and afraid...almost panic mode...I pointed this out to the father inlaw and my wife and her sister...who after watching for about five min we all agreed to go check it out.i thought and suggested it could be wild dogs or cougar or coyates even tho we couldn't see em???as I suggested further that a cougar would be stalking and hiding.Bottom line the cows were going crazy.
We took a tractor over to the connecting field through 2 gates and it took about 10 min..slow going.... tho by the time we got there they were fine.the only thing indicating a disturbance was all the snow and divvets from them running around full on.
I spent 20 min looking for tracks or sighns of a predator and found nadda a clue.if I knew then what I know now I would of spent some time looking up.
flash forward to last year when I gotta call about cows being found without heads and no trace of blood or tracks or disturbances in the area of attack..as they were calling to warn us of a cougar or some other predator bent on removing heads in the area and if we had seen or had cattle killed..and the farmer who called been farming for 3 generations on the same land.. mentioned how damned strange it was....no blood...brutal stuff.why just the head???...tho predators have learned to adapt to humans,,,and taking just the head isn't unheard of...the no blood thing isn't easy to explain.
Seen some mighty strange things since march 2011 and iam still rapping my head and heart around these sightings and contact..tho the one conclusion I do have still to this day due to many things following these sightings that all have to do with our own people/humans..bullying...basicly threats etc.....and that's I am/was more afraid of my own people and government then any alien contact...or craft.
the government/shadow government running the show are utterly insane..fullblown madness of the darkest kind... and will do anything to scare the cow pie outta us... torture... and kill to control the truth or the lie...so messing with some new tech while out flying about..testing in /on field runs in real time or aliens harvesting body parts for food/energy etc isn't hard to believe and cattle mutilations as part of our reality no matter the who or why...and the fact that it is happening and has been going down for awhile now and no one has a clue or reason or solid explanation to how and why to this day speaks volumes.:silent:
great thread mojo...
William.

mojo
20th January 2016, 04:57
Hi William and thanks for your testimony & contribution and I feel the same about the sinister side of human behavior which scares me more then any ET.... ;)

Curiosity
20th January 2016, 17:43
Possible reasons for mutilations?
Let us see if we can rule a few things out by looking at key factors.

#1 key factor, the complete removal of blood.
This rules out microorganisms.

#2 factor, the carcasses that had their parts and blood removed somewhere other than where they were dropped off.
This rules out the possibility of animal, reptile, well basically everything except human and/or ET involvement.

Complete removal of blood and specific organs suggest it's for experimental, scientific and/or medical in nature. In the case of human involvement, it can be ruled out as a 'food" source, but NOT entirely ruled out in the case of ET involvement.

The lack of main stream media coverage. main stream scientific investigation or police involvement, cover ups especially in human mutilations, suggest human involvement at high levels of authority.

The fact that the carcasses are discarded in plain sight suggest two things.

#1 if it's humans, they are doing it to create fear confusion and/or point to ET as the suspect to cover up what they are doing.

#2 if it's ET, that suggests they have no regard for any life form on this planet, not even human. They see us as just another animal or rodent living on this planet.

take
20th January 2016, 18:11
Anybody seen the film Mirage Men? They suggest that at least in the US the government used to do secret underground nuclear tests, and they used cattle (tongues, blood, etc) to see what the effects were to living thins above ground in terms of radiation etc.
Don't remember exactly what they said but something along those lines. Could be one plausible explanation. Also, I was thinking if the farmers ever get compensated..? At least in some of the nordic countries people who own reindeer get compensated if a reindeer dies, and the owners run over them on purpose. Just a thought...

lucidity
20th January 2016, 18:50
Possible reasons for mutilations?
Let us see if we can rule a few things out by looking at key factors.

#1 key factor, the complete removal of blood.
This rules out microorganisms.

#2 factor, the carcasses that had their parts and blood removed somewhere other than where they were dropped off.
This rules out the possibility of animal, reptile, well basically everything except human and/or ET involvement.

Complete removal of blood and specific organs suggest it's for experimental, scientific and/or medical in nature. In the case of human involvement, it can be ruled out as a 'food" source, but NOT entirely ruled out in the case of ET involvement.

The lack of main stream media coverage. main stream scientific investigation or police involvement, cover ups especially in human mutilations, suggest human involvement at high levels of authority.

The fact that the carcasses are discarded in plain sight suggest two things.

#1 if it's humans, they are doing it to create fear confusion and/or point to ET as the suspect to cover up what they are doing.

#2 if it's ET, that suggests they have no regard for any life form on this planet, not even human. They see us as just another animal or rodent living on this planet.

good post! :)

Curiosity
20th January 2016, 18:59
When we weigh all the evidence we have to rule out human involvement in most cases.

THE FIRST CATTLE MUTILATION?
"On April 21, 1897, Alexander Hamilton, the noted statesman, was awakened at night by loud humming noises coming from his cattle yard. He and two other men went outside and saw an "airship" slowly come down and hover over the yard. Here is how Hamilton described it:

"It consisted of a great cigar-shaped portion possibly 300 feet long, with a carriage underneath. The carriage was made of glass or some other transparent substance alternating with a narrow strip of some material. It was brilliantly lighted within and everything was plainly visible. It was occupied by six of the strangest beings I ever saw."

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/CattleMutilations.html

April 27, 1984

Dear Cecil:

The "whisperized" helicopter in the movie Blue Thunder called to mind reports of ranchers having seen silent aircraft over areas where mutilated cattle were subsequently found. Do the facts to date point to any conclusions on who could afford to do these strange mutilations for so many years and yet remain so close to committing the perfect crime? Is there any similar crime in history that appears to be so big, widespread, and yet so steadfastly ignored? (Ranchers seem to fall silent out of some feeling that "the walls have ears.")

— Rob T., Baltimore

"Whenever I start to fret that earthlings are becoming so intelligent and sophisticated that I will soon be out of a job, something like cattle mutilation comes along to convince me I'm going to be in business for the next two million years."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/519/whats-the-story-with-cattle-mutilations

lucidity
20th January 2016, 20:56
When we weigh all the evidence we have to rule out human involvement in most cases.

THE FIRST CATTLE MUTILATION?
"On April 21, 1897, Alexander Hamilton, the noted statesman, was awakened at night by loud humming noises coming from his cattle yard. He and two other men went outside and saw an "airship" slowly come down and hover over the yard. Here is how Hamilton described it:

"It consisted of a great cigar-shaped portion possibly 300 feet long, with a carriage underneath. The carriage was made of glass or some other transparent substance alternating with a narrow strip of some material. It was brilliantly lighted within and everything was plainly visible. It was occupied by six of the strangest beings I ever saw."

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/CattleMutilations.html

April 27, 1984

Dear Cecil:

The "whisperized" helicopter in the movie Blue Thunder called to mind reports of ranchers having seen silent aircraft over areas where mutilated cattle were subsequently found. Do the facts to date point to any conclusions on who could afford to do these strange mutilations for so many years and yet remain so close to committing the perfect crime? Is there any similar crime in history that appears to be so big, widespread, and yet so steadfastly ignored? (Ranchers seem to fall silent out of some feeling that "the walls have ears.")

— Rob T., Baltimore

"Whenever I start to fret that earthlings are becoming so intelligent and sophisticated that I will soon be out of a job, something like cattle mutilation comes along to convince me I'm going to be in business for the next two million years."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/519/whats-the-story-with-cattle-mutilations

Hi Curiosity

great post!

I was particularly interested by this Alexander Hamilton incident in 1897.
This seems to tie in with Prof. David Jacobs work with abductees.
Jacobs says that abductees are taken in families: If you're an abductee
there's a strong chance one or more of your parents were abductees, and
their parents also. Jacobs has been able to track abduction incidents
to the last quarter of the 19th century. This ties in with the 1897 date.

be happy

lucidity

Curiosity
20th January 2016, 22:46
When we weigh all the evidence we have to rule out human involvement in most cases.

THE FIRST CATTLE MUTILATION?
"On April 21, 1897, Alexander Hamilton, the noted statesman, was awakened at night by loud humming noises coming from his cattle yard. He and two other men went outside and saw an "airship" slowly come down and hover over the yard. Here is how Hamilton described it:

"It consisted of a great cigar-shaped portion possibly 300 feet long, with a carriage underneath. The carriage was made of glass or some other transparent substance alternating with a narrow strip of some material. It was brilliantly lighted within and everything was plainly visible. It was occupied by six of the strangest beings I ever saw."

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/CattleMutilations.html

April 27, 1984

Dear Cecil:

The "whisperized" helicopter in the movie Blue Thunder called to mind reports of ranchers having seen silent aircraft over areas where mutilated cattle were subsequently found. Do the facts to date point to any conclusions on who could afford to do these strange mutilations for so many years and yet remain so close to committing the perfect crime? Is there any similar crime in history that appears to be so big, widespread, and yet so steadfastly ignored? (Ranchers seem to fall silent out of some feeling that "the walls have ears.")

— Rob T., Baltimore

"Whenever I start to fret that earthlings are becoming so intelligent and sophisticated that I will soon be out of a job, something like cattle mutilation comes along to convince me I'm going to be in business for the next two million years."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/519/whats-the-story-with-cattle-mutilations

Hi Curiosity

great post!

I was particularly interested by this Alexander Hamilton incident in 1897.
This seems to tie in with Prof. David Jacobs work with abductees.
Jacobs says that abductees are taken in families: If you're an abductee
there's a strong chance one or more of your parents were abductees, and
their parents also. Jacobs has been able to track abduction incidents
to the last quarter of the 19th century. This ties in with the 1897 date.

be happy

lucidity

Hi lucidity,
Ya we have to consider this stuff has been going on far far back in history way before any recorded I witness testimony. Probably hundreds if not thousand of years or more. So to think this is just something that is taking place in the resent human technologically advance age is naive and ignorant.
I witness and drawings of alien craft long before cameras and even before man took to the skies or even had cars, these crafts tied to mutilations etc. should be all anyone needs to put one and one together to make 2.

Spellbound
20th January 2016, 23:21
Butch Witkowski, while investigating human mutilations, pontificates that the reason ET's mutilate humans (or animals) while they are alive is because the level of fear and horror felt by the humans/animals at the time that it's happening causes a chemical to be released into the bloodstream which ET's thrive on (hence all blood being drained).

While on the subject of mutilations (and someone earlier brought up Richard D Hall), I'd really like Linda Moulton Howe to be questioned on human mutilations (again). Her suggestion that the man found mutilated in Brazil many years back was a result of agent orange, just doesn't jive. All of her research into cattle mutilations and yet she downplays human mutilations, even though they have many of the same characteristics. Some have suggested she has been told/threatened by TPTB to keep quiet about human mutilations (not sure why cattle mutilations are fair game but human mutilations are sacred). Linda doesn't strike me as the type of person to bow to any sort of pressure. Still though, odd that she does not accept human mutilations as real.

Dave - Toronto

Curiosity
20th January 2016, 23:35
Haven't watched this yet.

The Human Mutilation Cover Up FULL Film 2014 Richard D Hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45hL8e-QuXQ

Spellbound
20th January 2016, 23:43
Haven't watched this yet.

The Human Mutilation Cover Up FULL Film 2014 Richard D Hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45hL8e-QuXQ

That's a fantastic video. Richard plays a clip of an interview with Linda Moulton Howe in that video where Linda downplays human mutilations (per my post above). Richard also eludes to the Dyatlov Pass incident (though not by name) in this video resulting from human mutilations.

Dave - Toronto

lucidity
21st January 2016, 15:33
Butch Witkowski, while investigating human mutilations, pontificates that the reason ET's mutilate humans (or animals) while they are alive is because the level of fear and horror felt by the humans/animals at the time that it's happening causes a chemical to be released into the bloodstream which ET's thrive on (hence all blood being drained).

While on the subject of mutilations (and someone earlier brought up Richard D Hall), I'd really like Linda Moulton Howe to be questioned on human mutilations (again). Her suggestion that the man found mutilated in Brazil many years back was a result of agent orange, just doesn't jive. All of her research into cattle mutilations and yet she downplays human mutilations, even though they have many of the same characteristics. Some have suggested she has been told/threatened by TPTB to keep quiet about human mutilations (not sure why cattle mutilations are fair game but human mutilations are sacred). Linda doesn't strike me as the type of person to bow to any sort of pressure. Still though, odd that she does not accept human mutilations as real.

Dave - Toronto

good post Spellbound.

Yes, i'd heard this idea before about terror causing a release of some chemical
into the blood... both interesting and disturbing. Of-course, it could be absolutely true.

You're absolutely right about Linda Moulton Howe's response to human mutilations.
That sticks out like a sore thumb, there is something definitely *odd* about that.

be happy

lucidity

Heartsong
21st January 2016, 17:06
Animal abduction and mutilation.

If it's the aliens, would they really use helicopters?

If it's the government, wouldn't it make more sense for them to just use some of their money to buy a herd of cattle and breed for whatever characteristics they need? Actually they'd use sub-contractors for that, what was I thinking.

Or, if they are feeling frugal (our government?) they could go to a meat processor and strike a deal for the parts they want.

I think there is an Evil Element that wants to strike fear into the population by creating these gory stories and situations to keep us distracted and feeling hopeless.

tomfellows
21st January 2016, 18:24
It's preposterous to suggest that the US Military stole these cattle,
performed highly complex surgical procedures on them,
including removing all the animals blood, in order to
(1) perform experiments on them and
(2) to blame the aliens.

First: The US military is a wealthy organisation, it can simply buy cattle
to perform experiments on them. It doesn't need to steal cattle from farmers.
This just isn't plausible.

Second: The US Military have been vehemently denying that aliens exist.
Yet here we're being asked to believe that the US military has gone to bizarrely
extreme lengths to blame the aliens for animal mutilations.
Again, it's just not plausible.


This Gabe Valdez book is clearly disinformation aimed to denying the alien reality.
It's just nonsense.

be happy

lucidity

+1 lucidity.

I think you're 100% correct ludicity. It's just not plausible.
Gabe Valdez has probably been sponsored by the CIA/FBI/etc to write some disinfo.
The news media have been suspiciously accommodating in giving it air time.

tom

OneKind
21st January 2016, 18:26
Interesting theory but I have a few questions...

How would one account for the animal bodies, that is, why leave them there?

Why poach another person's cattle when they could buy it from any number of legal markets?

Why have we not heard of more pig mutilations? (Or any, as far as I know)?

zahra4me
21st January 2016, 19:18
The big explosive issue here. Isn't the animal mutilations. It's the human mutilations.
Once the reality of the animal mutilations becomes common knowledge, it wont be long
before the reality of the human mutilations phenomenon also becomes common knowledge.

In the above video there is evidence of 6 human bodies being found in Dalby Forest.
In previous videos by Richplanet there was mention of 2 human bodies being mutilated
in the Brekon Beacons plus 2 further human bodies discovered with UFO retrieval teams
in the UK. So that's a total of 10 human mutilation cases in the UK.

But that's just the ones we know about at the moment. This phenomenon
is subject to official secrecy and cover up; so what's the true total number of human
mutilations ?

be happy

lucidity

Wow, it's like they're vampires

Do you think this might be connected to the mysterious disappearances
of people in American national parks ? Disappearances which the police
seem to be trying hard to cover up.

Strangely, this scenario of blood sucking 'vampire' aliens is the theme
of 'Plan 9 from Outer Space'. The film is dated 1959, it's a B&W B-movie.
It has Vampira and Bella Lugosi.

Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24xqRhEwvWQ
(Even stranger, the uploader of this movie is named 'Philip Schneider'.
Is that just a weird coincidence, or does this uploader *know* something?)

Curiosity
21st January 2016, 22:27
Interesting theory but I have a few questions...

How would one account for the animal bodies, that is, why leave them there?

Why poach another person's cattle when they could buy it from any number of legal markets?

Why have we not heard of more pig mutilations? (Or any, as far as I know)?

Theses are good questions, but the answers are simple

Aliens leave the carcasses because they take what they want and have no regards or concern with any life form on this planet. Anything and everything is simply a resource including humans.

The question about pigs I can't answer

If there is any human involvement, they leave the carcasses simply to create fear and make it look like it's aliens. This is so they keep suspicion off them. If we ever do find chimeras or human Hybrids they can blame Aliens. Keep us looking i the wrong direction.

Carmody
4th February 2016, 01:27
There are other threads that contain other information cattle/animal/human mutilations.

specifically ones that contain data on UFO sightings, astrology, timing of events, Ley lines, underground bases, oil corporations, black ops, dimensional shifts (dimensional shifting creatures), etc.

Star Tsar
23rd January 2018, 00:19
From hence fourth may this thread be a home to all things known for the phenomena of cattle mutilation


UPARS

https://yt3.ggpht.com/p-MGBZ0UFv7f8a-bpKBAMKbZS0h2hNDkhN5Bu0kemAabI_kSqgyLsCdAyNze78lyuzxOv2qV=w2120-fcrop64=1,00005a57ffffa5a8-nd-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

Christopher O'Brien | Stalking The Herd

Recorded 16th January 2018 | Published 22nd January 2018

Since 1605, Tens of thousands of cattle and other warm bloooded animals have been documented as being mutilated in pastures & on farms around the world. These animals are found in horrific condition, missing various soft tissue organs, with no evidence @ the crime scene for investigators.
Who or what is behind these unexplaned animal deaths? One of the worlds most foremost animal death investigators Christopher O'Brien takes us into one f the most perplexing crime scenes of all time. Working with Vetarenians, Pathologist, Biologists & Law Enforcement investigators, O'Brien has slowly unraveled this enduring mystery.
Is it UFO's & aliens? Cults? Mundane scavenger damage? The shadow government?

He presents startling new evidence linking many of these animal deaths to a covert enviromental monitoring process perpetrated by a shadowy group with access to high technology. He also looks into the important role of cattle in human cultral & religious development And he suggests that the enviromental & health impacts of modern cattle raising are catastrophic to the health & well being of humanity & the planet.

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Sunny-side-up
23rd January 2018, 12:15
Thanks Star Tsar, very important information.
A very well given talk, very worrying last 3rd showing the probable speeding of diseases.

CurEus
25th January 2018, 03:12
Fascinating alternative look at correlations found in animal mutilations.

I'm still unclear about the relationship to forest "blow outs" and prion diseases. Was that HAARP activity?

Star Tsar
25th January 2018, 08:48
Christopher says that the forrest blowdowns are a Earth generated phenomenon.
Prion disease. He implicates the UK Government into yet another conspiracy this time dealing with blood donation & "mad cow disease" outbreak of the mid 90s here in the UK.
He states that if a person has lived in the UK for six months minimum during one will not be accepted bt the Red Cross for blood donation. AND that the ashes of all those 4.6 million of burned cattle was sold to 70 other nations of the world as fertilizer!! And links the rise of dementia rise in the human population directly to prions disease & beef consumption. Skip to 134 minutes for that section and you can hear it straight from the horses mouth (excuse the pun).

Two other data points that stuck in my mind are

No case has been reported of a Brahma cow being mutilated.

Over two hundred cases of cattle mutilation reported where military helicopters are sighted.

Star Tsar
29th August 2018, 08:05
A different perspective but on topic


The Paracast

https://www.theparacast.com/images/radio_logos/paralogo200animation5.gif

Dr Richard Bonenfant | The Secrets Of Cattle Mutilations

Broadcast 12th August & Published 28th August 2018

The Paracast welcomes guest Dr Richard Bonenfant, A retire medical research scientist & author of four books on the darker aspects of animal mutilations. Richard combines his professional expertise & his own private research as he shares with the listener all the secrets he has garnered on mutilations of cattle.

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Spellbound
2nd September 2018, 03:25
Linda Howe has been reporting about a rash of cat mutilations in recent podcasts (found headless and bloodless). It's not just cattle (or people for that matter).

Dave - Toronto

chriswallace
22nd June 2020, 14:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9jHth2eKj0

ExomatrixTV
14th March 2023, 22:06
Christopher O'Brien and his Research into Cattle Mutilations (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120741-Christopher-O-Brien-and-his-research-into-cattle-mutilations) :bowing:

Sue (Ayt)
25th April 2023, 04:16
Mysterious deaths of mutilated cattle being investigated
Authorities in Texas say numerous cows have been mutilated with "apparent precision."
Posted at 3:18 PM, Apr 24, 2023

50793

There's a mystery in Texas that's baffling investigators. Numerous cows have been found mutilated.

According to the Madison County Sheriff's Office, ranchers found a 6-year-old longhorn dead on their property last week.

"A straight, clean cut, with apparent precision, had been made to remove the hide around the cow’s mouth on one side, leaving the meat under the removed hide untouched," the sheriff's office said in a statement. "The tongue was also completely removed from the body with no blood spill. "

Investigators said there were no signs of a struggle and the area around the animal did not appear disturbed. Authorities noted that there were no footprints or tracks in the area.

"Ranchers also reported that no predators or birds would scavenge the remains of the cow, leaving it to decay untouched for several weeks," the sheriff's office said.

While investigating the death of the longhorn, authorities said they learned of six similar deaths involving cows in counties north of Houston. Each of the incidents reportedly occurred in different locations, pastures, and herds.

"The other cows were found in the same condition, lying on one side with the exposed side of their face cut along the jawline and the tongue, once again, completely removed," the sheriff's office said.

The sheriff's office said there have been similar incidents reported across the U.S. and it's working with other agencies to find answers.
https://www.3newsnow.com/mysterious-deaths-of-mutilated-cattle-being-investigated

Ravenlocke
25th April 2023, 18:32
https://twitter.com/OANN/status/1650662420350898176

1650662420350898176

Mutilated Cows Found Dead With Missing Tongues

Six mangled cows have been discovered dead on various ranches along a Texas roadway spanning three counties by authorities this week.

On Wednesday, Madison County Sheriff’s authorities claimed in a Facebook post that five more comparable incidences were recorded throughout the region around College Station covering Madison, Brazos, and Robertson counties while investigating the death of a 6-year-old cow. Similar mutilations have been reported around the country, and efforts to cooperate across authorities are ongoing, according to the sheriff’s office.

Authorities said the 6-year-old cow was discovered with a “straight, clean cut, with apparent precision” removing the hide around one side of the animal’s mouth. There was no blood leak when the tongue was removed. Ranchers claimed that no predators or birds had scavenged the corpses.

“This circular cut was made with the same precision as the cuts noted around the jaw lines of each cow,” the sheriff’s office noted.

The cows were discovered in identical situations, although in two cases, extra external organs were stolen.

According to the post, each cow was mutilated in a separate spot, there was no evidence of struggle, the grass was untouched, and no footprints or tire traces were detected surrounding the murdered cows.

The sheriff’s office have said that it is working with other law enforcement agencies to gather information, citing “multiple similar incidents” in the United States.

The cause of death of all six cows remains unknown.