MIKE CLELLAND with Richard Dolan on ETs, abductions, synchronicities, and owls (yes, owls...)

[Bill Ryan]

I knew that Richard Dolan had been lauding the work of author Mike Clelland to the skies. Richard has published his book, The Messengers.


https://richarddolanpress.com/the-messengers

https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1449240868l/28098242.jpg

I'd never really understood why Richard was waxing so lyrical about the book, and didn't really understand what the book was about.

But after listening to this interview, from his 7 Nov 2017 radio show (http://kgraradioarchives.com/Shows/richard-dolan-show/2017/RDS110717KGRA%20-%20The%20Richard%20Dolan%20Show%20-%20UFOs-ETs%20&%20Owls.mp3), now I do.

Here's the section in question... the last three segments (an hour and a half) of his show.


http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Richard_Dolan_Show_7_Nov_2017_Mike_Clelland_UFOs_ETs_&_Owls.mp3 (41 Mb, 1hr 14mins, commercials edited out)

Let me try to summarize in my own words. (Not easy!)


The first thing to say is the Mike Clelland is REALLY articulate, fun and easy to listen to. He's a rock climber, backpacker and map reader, my kind of guy. :) And Richard stresses that he's one of the nicest people he knows, counting him as a good friend.



He's also a fine UFO researcher: he knows his history. And he's had a number of UFO experiences himself.



He's walking in the very large footsteps of Jacques Vallée and John Keel. He's coming to believe that the ET phenomenon is even weirder than we think. He suspects that there's some kind of engineering of our subjective reality going on, and he's discovered that OWLS often play a part in many highly-strange ET- or abduction-related experiences.



There are ridiculous, inexplicable synchronicities involved, and he posits that the owls that are often seen are ETs (or some kind of ultraterrestrials) adopting a kind of disguise to ease our senses. Sometimes, they seem to bring messages, and even profound, lasting, transformational personal experiences.



Richard believes this is one of the most important books that he's published, or indeed has ever read about the UFO phenomenon. That's no small praise.

I've NOT read the book, but I found the interview riveting and thought-provoking. Do listen.

The link again:


http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Richard_Dolan_Show_7_Nov_2017_Mike_Clelland_UFOs_ETs_&_Owls.mp3 (41 Mb, 1hr 14mins, commercials edited out)

[RunningDeer]

I’m downloading the audio now and look forward to it. Only recently, I recalled how one evening in 1973 heading off to work, I spotted a large white owl off to the side of the driveway. I had no reason to be frightened. But I was because it was on the ground rather than in the tree above it. Even when I drove closer, it wouldn’t fly off. I surmised the headlights had mesmerize it. Another part of me didn’t believe that rationale.

All these years later, I wondered if it was more than a large white owl. I recounted how it was shortly after, my life did a crazy, warp-speed 180 from what I had planned.

[Sunny-side-up]

Thanks for the links Bill.

One heavily foggy night I encountered 5 or 6 Owls above and around me on a little stream island.

It was quite amazing, I had often watched an Owl there, but this particular night was extra ordinary, it must have been his/her birthday bash, all his/hers friends/relatives at the party O.O

This island and Owls is also just a stones throw away from one of my best close up UFO encounters (MY Cuttlefish colour changing craft)
Makes me wonder?

[Mike]

My close friend Mike had a very trippy owl experience. I texted him about an hour ago to ask for the details ( I had sort of forgotten) and he just texted me back...

The first time he saw an owl it was a daytime experience. It was so strange that he thought he was hallucinating. He closed his eyes and reopened them and the owl was gone. He saw several more owls in the years to come

Flash forward years later and he's on the phone telling someone how he always see's owls, how he saw an owl again shortly before his aunt's death...and a second or 2 later an owl flies by his window.

This really weirded him out and he went down to this place called Pazzos for a couple beers. He is telling his friend what just happened with the owl flying by the window, and the friend takes off his sweatshirt and is wearing an owl tshirt.

Strange stuff.

[Spiral]

About 12 years ago or so we had at least 5 owls around our house in more or less a circle with one on the roof, 3 fledglings & 2 parents in all, it was only just too dark to see them but the noise was incredible, my wife was really scared & although I wanted to stay outside I felt I had to go back in...

I had seen the three still fluffy kids on the wall at the side of the road the evening before, passed them at eye level.

Seemed like nature at the time but in the years that followed sightings of UFOs, abductions & missing time all happened, along with "shadow beings" & much other weirdness.

[Foxie Loxie]

I remember how Wendelle Stevens told of his grandchildren seeing some really BIG owls, which was odd! :sherlock:

[Bill Ryan]

What's really interesting about what Mike Clelland presents is the mind-bender that looks like this:

If:


An ET (or UT = UltraTerrestrial) can present itself as an owl (and actually fly),
A reptilian can present itself as a human, wearing real human clothes (without busting all the seams),
Inexplicable coincidences can manifest themselves (as if being storyboarded),

...what does this say about the nature of our reality??

[RunningDeer]

...what does this say about the nature of our reality??
What does this say about the nature of our reality? That we’re neophytes until we nix the deeply ingrained beliefs of religion, education, culture, propagandized mystical and magical that’s been fed to us to keep us at base levels of potentiality.

Declutter to expand beyond what you are unable to fathom in your current state because of thousands of years of herd indoctrination.

Open to, tap into your creative intelligence without bias from self or others. Don’t accept, don’t allow group mind think to control your discoveries and thought processes.

Stop the embedded self-doubt. It’s a trick. It’s a program to keep you in the loop of illusion.

Do not squander this opportunity. If need be, be courageous enough to walk away from any and all that sabotage your path either consciously or unconsciously.

This is it. This is your chance to outdo what you never thought possible. Step beyond the dream into a reality you create as you go. Discover and acknowledge the new you every single day.

Pay attention. Listen. Hear.

Follow through on your instincts and synchronicities no matter how small. They're cumulative and it's practice for those unexpected expansions along the way.

[Cognitive Dissident]

What's really interesting about what Mike Clelland presents is the mind-bender that looks like this:

If:


An ET (or UT = UltraTerrestrial) can present itself as an owl (and actually fly),
A reptilian can present itself as a human, wearing real human clothes (without busting all the seams),
Inexplicable coincidences can manifest themselves (as if being storyboarded),

...what does this say about the nature of our reality??

Well done Bill, you win the internet ;)

On point 3, here is Clelland's own account from his blog of an absolutely incredible co-incidence of three unrelated places where he had significant owl/paranormal/etc. experiences. These three places are on an exact straight line... which is 230 miles long...

Any question about whether reality is storyboarded?

http://hiddenexperience.blogspot.com/2013/03/line-on-map-across-southern-utah.html

My speculation is that there is a lot of "storyboarding" in reality, even if day to day stuff isn't set up like that.

(However, having said that: just this morning listening to Dark Journalist interview Grant Cameron, clicked on YouTube into the middle of the conversation and at that exact point Grant mentioned (in relation to a historical incident) the month and year I was born... hmmmm)

What that says about our reality is that a lot was set up before we incarnated (pre-birth planning and agreements) but there must also be plenty of real-time adjustments and setting things up - what comes to mind is VALIS, Philip K. Dick, that sort of concept.

And just to tie things together a little bit: often experiencers or contactees get information which they describe as a "download" which comes with a strong sense of certainty. Clelland described this in his blog too. But there's another word for this sense of knowing, which is much older: gnosis.

Interesting, really interesting.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Thanks for the bookinfo and the links.
I always considered owls to represent a sign of spirituality, so whenever an owl appeared, in real life or in another way (book,...) I took it to be a good sign.
About 12 years ago while driving through Scotland with a friend, late at night, a large white owl crossed us, right in front of the car. It felt strange as well as special.
And yes, most of the time there was "storyboarding" involved. But also when no owls were present. It seems more related to the type of person or people I was with.
A very interesting subject indeed.

[Valerie Villars]

I read most of Bill's post and will go on to read the book but this is VERY relevant. As some of you may know, I had a major awakening and all kinds of really, really strange and spiritual things happen to me in 2012 and 2013.

Owls began hooting in my backyard before all of this went down and there was an even weirder experience with owls hooting at a friend's house during the height of the strangeness. They almost sounded like primates, but I was told by her they were owls. I didn't say anything at the time, but I'd never heard owls do that.

This just gets stranger and stranger. I have a full day today and need to hop in the shower to work out, but all these threads of what happened to me keep getting tied together in all this literature I am reading here. I will read the book.

Oh yeah, the synchronicities were mind blowing.

[Sunny-side-up]

Cognitive Dissident

My speculation is that there is a lot of "storyboarding" in reality, even if day to day stuff isn't set up like that.

I think that's just it 'Day to day stuff' is just illusion and distraction, it seems like the real stuff but it's not!
If we could all just follow a natural path, a path of our gut, a path of our inner instinct, well, we would see and be in reality.

At which point no more need for: abductions, synchronicities, and owls as tools trying to show/communicate to us. We would be in the right place and be in full communication all the time.

I have to say though :(
I have failed, I was once on a clearer path but have been knocked off it so many times now :(
I find myself a burnt out wreak in many ways.
But still seeing UFO's here and there, so maybe is hope for me.

I have to say, the first thing I do when I go out side is look up and around, and carry on doing so all day and night.

[Bill Ryan]

Mike Clelland on the Peter Maxwell Slattery show, 22 March 2016:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F52F3Ejmik0

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The topic of "owl" showed up in one of my rarely "deep" meditations. I witnessed myself, without a visual, talking with someone I could not see. I asked a rhetorical question "My animal by day is the hawk and by night is the owl." A hidden voice replied "Your animal is the owl."

There is more to that story. Confirmation by synchronicity hours later.

[Sunny-side-up]

No mistaking, it's a HOOT of a subject :)

Sorry about that.

[Valerie Villars]

I, too, think that storyboarding thing is very relevant. And it connects to that straight line of truth which Mark Passio so eloquently speaks of. Somehow, if you stay pure, stay in the moment, follow your heart, get rid of fear and trust your instinct, you hit that line and then your life becomes mind blowing. All of this, as those who know, know, is very difficult to explain. I kept a journal during my "hero's journey" and can easily piece the whole thing together if I just sit down and put my mind and time to it.

This is the first I have heard of the owl tie-in and I always felt I was being watched when I heard them. It was pretty unnerving. Also, my Mom died during that time frame and I got her drawing of an owl (hanging in my living room) which I had bought for her about twenty years ago, for Christmas. I always felt there was something significant about it.

This also ties in to the language of the birds, the "Conference of the Birds", "To Kill a Mockingbird" (got an incredible inner knowing about myself regarding that book) and a whole host of other things.

I'm trying to cut back on my spending but I am going to have to get that book. Incredible.

[Foxie Loxie]

Paula....I SO enjoyed your synopsis!! We live in a prison of our own making~~~~~without even realizing it!! :facepalm:

[ZoSo925]

This sounds like good show and listening. I've lived in Las Vegas almost 20 years and never seen an Owl here. A few years ago I saw a Hawk for the first time. It was huge and sitting on my backyard brick wall eating a smaller bird.

[Bill Ryan]

I just had a surprise e-mail from Mike Clelland, posted here with his permission. I've edited out a few bits simply because they didn't really seem relevant here.

Mike wrote:

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Bill,




I just read some of your kind words on the Project Avalon thread. Thanks!

Also — We corresponded back in 2016. I had someone (who was writing an article) contact me about UFO events while mountaineering, and I forwarded her on to you.

And - the second owl book is done and should be available any day now!

http://themessengersbook.blogspot.com

Peace to you,
Mike C

I replied:

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Mike, great to hear from you. And yes, I remember now!
I was on my feet, walking around, when I was listening to your excellent interview with Rich. When you got to the part about Kenneth Arnold and the owl that he'd found and rescued, I literally stopped physically in my tracks, like a statue. It was like a bad scene from a movie. :)

I too had exactly the same experience, back in the early 90s. I took care of the injured owl, until it flew away of its own accord three weeks later.

As you know, I'm an abductee, but my only experience (that I know of) was a decade earlier.

What does all this mean? You and Rich described the brainscrambler perfectly. It's like someone reaching into the fishpond and meddling deliberately (and very finely and precisely) with our reality — for an unknown purpose.

You may know this, but Michael Talbot, the author of the seminal HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE, got the deep theme for much of his book from ET communications he was receiving. Talbot worked with Budd Hopkins on all this, and after Talbot's death (fairly soon after the book was published) Hopkins told this to Linda Howe, who made it public only (I believe) in the last year or two.

Wow. Talk about Secrets of the Universe.

Could I possibly copy your e-mail (and my reply here) to the forum for public view?

And (trivia, which you may also know): I'm a rock climber, backpacker, skier and map reader too. Kudos to you. :)

All my best to you ~ Bill

Back from Mike:

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Bill,

You had a wounded owl? All very strange. In the upcoming book (due out shortly) I go thru the life of Kenneth Arnold and speculate that he *might* have been an abductee.

Peace to you,
Mike

[william r sanford72]

Man I have so many owls storys I wouldn't know where to begin as they all seem important to me on so many levels that picking one is hard to do..from the giant owls to the baby owls that would land on the ground and walk around me..have you ever seen a owl walk??..to my wife watching an owl get hit by car..stoping to check on it..held it as it died then brings it back home so I could bury it to me opening its wings and finding a dead praying mantis inside..i buried both.Owls have visited me since from childhood to preasant day
great thread...great post bill and Avalon Fam.

William.

[Valerie Villars]

I just listened to the interview with Mike and Richard Dolan. Mike has got it perfectly. When you go through those experiences it is like a chaotic symphony. There is something very magical about birds (had my own experience with an injured cardinal), but also the inexplicable way things start happening which tie into the knowledge we have learned over a lifetime. In addition to birds, I was shown much about fairy tales, myth, literature, music, art, symbols in very weird, synchronistic ways. At the time, I thought I was losing my mind it was so incredible.

But, it was also very spiritual and there were et's involved. I am so happy someone else has finally given voice to the experiences I went through.

I can't thank you all enough for posting this and for talking about it. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Valerie Villars]

I want to thank Mike, Peter and Bill. That video lifted the hugest weight from me. That, exactly, is what I experienced and and that wonderful man was able to verbalize it.

God Bless You All. Go Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AutumnW]

I read most of Bill's post and will go on to read the book but this is VERY relevant. As some of you may know, I had a major awakening and all kinds of really, really strange and spiritual things happen to me in 2012 and 2013.

Owls began hooting in my backyard before all of this went down and there was an even weirder experience with owls hooting at a friend's house during the height of the strangeness. They almost sounded like primates, but I was told by her they were owls. I didn't say anything at the time, but I'd never heard owls do that.

This just gets stranger and stranger. I have a full day today and need to hop in the shower to work out, but all these threads of what happened to me keep getting tied together in all this literature I am reading here. I will read the book.

Oh yeah, the synchronicities were mind blowing.

Barred owls do that. They sound like a cacaphoney of jungle hoots and hollers and shrieks. Owls aren't as human shy as other birds, too. If you are able to get close, it's not that surprising. Along with their big eyes, and facial triangularity (barn owls particularly) they have to be the best and easiest screen memory for other intelligences to pull off.

I have had three good friends who had very screen memory type experiences with owls. Two of these friends went on and contracted a serious chronic illness that pops up frequently in the abductee community. I kept mum about this because I didn't want to scare them. The other lifelong friend had a very unique owl experience that was followed by a period of months long amnesia.

I am very interested in the connection with seeing owls, abductions AND chronic illness developing around the same time.

[Bill Ryan]

A follow up e-mail from Mike Clelland:

~~~



Bill,

I think it is VERY interesting that you rescued an injured owl. I have a sub-chapter in the book devoted to stories of people (abductees most likely) who have rescued owls. Just amazing.

Obviously people find injured owls, but the number of UFO experiencers I’ve talked to who’ve picked up owls is astounding.

Cheers,
Mike

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Real interesting subject. Whitley Strieber talks quite extensively about his Owl experiences in his seminal book, Communion. I think that was where I first read about the phenomenon. It would appear, for whatever strange reason, ETs use the image of an Owl as a 'screen memory', along with other animals. But the Owl seems universally popular.

Budd Hopkins documented a number of cases (Strieber included) in which the abductee initially saw an Owl - at the bedroom window for instance. But under hypnosis the veil lifts and the mask disintegrates. What they were really seeing was an ET (usually a Grey). I can only assume the screen memory is to protect the abductee from trauma. Seeing simply 'an owl' is far less disruptive to the fragile human psyche.

[RunningDeer]

Owls began hooting in my backyard before all of this went down and there was an even weirder experience with owls hooting at a friend's house during the height of the strangeness. They almost sounded like primates, but I was told by her they were owls. I didn't say anything at the time, but I'd never heard owls do that.


Barred owls do that. They sound like a cacaphoney of jungle hoots and hollers and shrieks. Owls aren't as human shy as other birds, too. If you are able to get close, it's not that surprising. Along with their big eyes, and facial triangularity (barn owls particularly) they have to be the best and easiest screen memory for other intelligences to pull off. .
1-2 minute clips OR even better play them all at the same time.


BARRED OWL AMAZING VOCALS!
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The Distinctive Calls of Owls: A Sampler
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Voices: Barred Owl
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[Bob]

Dots, many dots.. My contact had been exploring around Roswell for many years (about 10 ish).. whom had gotten me into the Bohemian club for a first hand mingling with members there to understand where it is coming from.. and of course the OWL is key.. Dots many dots... as I said in the earlier post about the experience "inside" it is way different than the outside.. Owl significance in my opinion is very key. BTW, some years back coming home late at nite, on my dirt road up to my house (I live about 10 miles out of town, Colorado Springs, up in the Hills), there was what appeared to be a large owl, about 4 foot tall, !! standing in the road.. I stopped watched and it flew off.. I have never seen or heard of owls 4 feet tall. I was quite into studying many aspects of ET phenomenon (DUMBS etc.) at the time..

if you research 4 foot tall owl - http://farmwars.info/?p=13373 there is something magical about an "owl" that size..

[Bob]

Adding this for reference to the "owl-like" creature associated with ET...

http://mexicounexplained.com/the-lechuza/


What’s that huge creature in the skies of Chihuahua? In this episode we will investigate the gigantic bird sightings happening all over northern Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley of Texas for centuries. The massive bird has been called La Lechuza for its resemblance to an owl. Is this creature real, or is it part of folklore and myth or maybe something else?

There are many descriptions and stories about the Lechuza and we will first describe the creature and relate the stories. Depending on which telling you hear, the massive bird can range in stature from the size of a small human to 7 feet tall and can have a wingspan of 15 feet. It is sometimes described as black in color and sometimes as white as snow. In most cases it has been said to resemble an owl. In other cases it is more like a huge raven. Some accounts say that the Lechuza’s face is that of an old woman, or of something more otherworldly with large, dark, almond-shaped eyes. In all cases the Lechuza flies and is seen at night. It has been reported only in the Mexican states of Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas and on the American side of the Rio Grande in Texas.

There are many different legends surrounding the sighting of this creature. What could the large variety of explanations mean? The fact that there are so many different legends may indicate that sightings have occurred over a large geographical area over the years among people who were isolated from one another. One town may have made sense of their sighting one way, while another town a thousand miles away may have made sense in another, without ever communicating with each other about it. I will explore a few of the main legends here.

One of the main themes running through stories regarding the Lechuza is that the creature was once a woman who was wronged and who is seeking revenge. Some say the Lechuza is a woman by day and turns into a huge owl by night. Some say that the Lechuza snatches kids because her own child was killed by angry villagers for a crime he did not commit. In a variation of this, the child was killed by a drunk and so now the Lechuza exacts revenge by hanging around bars, waiting until closing time to attack bar patrons who stumble out into the street after hours not knowing the danger from the sky about to rain down on them. In some of the legends, La Lechuza is not a shape-shifting person at all, but a witch’s familiar, much like a 021black cat, and does the bidding of the witch, attacking people and destroying property on her command. Other stories say the bird is a minion of Satan himself.

Not only is the Lechuza said to take humans as prey, it also preys upon the negative emotions of humans, acting as a psychic vampire, drawing power from emotions surrounding human conflict and distress. The Lechuza has been known to appear outside of houses during domestic quarrels, waiting for one of the people involved to storm out of the house to then be snatched and carried to the Lechuza’s lair. The Lechuza has a special fondness for children, especially for those who wander away from home after dark. If you feel secure in your home, the creature will make crying sounds like a baby to lure you out of your house. It’s also been known to make a whistling sound, like a human whistling.

If you answer it back with a whistle of your own, the Lechuza will swoop down and carry you away. If you wake up in the morning and see large scratches on your doors or windowsills it means that the Luchuza was there and is coming for you, so you must prepare yourself accordingly.

Can the Lechuza be killed? How can you protect yourself? Because the creature is magical, according to legend the Lechuza possesses supernatural powers and care must be taken to kill it or to ward it off. If you shoot at it and it doesn’t die, you die instead. If any part of the Lechuza touches you – even a feather from its wingtip – you will die. If you dream about the creature, that means someone in your family will die. In many stories, the Lechuza has been killed, but when the sun comes up the body of the bird transforms back into the body of a haggard witch. There are several things one can do to ward off an attack by the creature.

Hanging a rope with 7 knots in it outside your front door or on your porch shows the creature that you acknowledge and respect it and it will leave you alone.

If you see the creature flying at you, an attack can be repelled with a combination of salt and chile powder thrown into the Lechuza’s face. If salt and chile powder are not handy, you can always recite The Magnificat – in Spanish, La Magnifica – a Catholic prayer taken from the Gospel of Saint Luke where the Virgin Mary is praising the power of God. It is also called the Canticle of Mary and celebrates the Visitation, the second Joyful Mystery of the Holy Rosary. The prayer must be recited in the normal manner AND backwards. I am not sure if this would work; how much time would there be to say this payer forwards and backwards if a massive bird came out of the sky and was swooping down on you? In any event, it made the list of possible Lechuza repellants.

Some stories of Lechuza encounters have happened well into the 21st Century and continue to this day. In one recent story, near the town of El Tigre, Chihuahua, a man was driving on a dirt road outside of town when the creature began swooping down on his truck. At one point, it hit the truck’s windshield and bounced on to the road in front of the vehicle. The driver gunned the engine, ran over the Lechuza, backed up over it and ran over it again to be satisfied that he killed the creature. Unfortunately, from the rear-view mirror of the truck the man saw the Lechuza rise again and instantly had a heart attack and died at the wheel. This according to the passenger in the truck.

In another story, the Lechuza was hanging around a small town near Nuevo Laredo sometime in the 1950s. The townsfolk gathered together to come up with a plan to kill it. One person lured it out of the trees using his young child as bait. When the Lechuza swooped down to take the child, several men shot at the bird, but only hit it in the claw before it flew off. The next morning, members of the town went to the house of a supposed witch and she answered the door with a crutch and a bandaged leg. The story ends there and we don’t know what happened.

LechuzaIn the United States, in the town of Santa Rosa, Texas, near the border with Mexico there was a mass sighting of La Lechuza in 1977. The bird was spotted on a tree and then flew to the front door of a woman, scratching the door as if it wanted to get in. By then the neighborhood dogs arrived, barking, and the Lechuza flew away. The dogs ran after the bird as far as they could, but gave up when the Lechuza flew too high. The next morning, all of the neighborhood dogs were dead. Several people saw the massive bird and all were mystified by the nighttime death of the dogs.

Could the legends of the Lechuza exist because they are describing an actual animal? If so, is there physical evidence of the animal’s existence? Among the many reports on the internet about this creature – most of which is written in Spanish – there exists only one photo of a supposed Lechuza killed in northern Mexico. I have a copy of that photo on the podcast website Mexico Unexplained dot com. The bird appears to be a huge white barn owl with a 15-foot wingspan. Some dismiss this as a hoax or a fake, something cropped and photoshopped. This, however, is the only piece of photographic proof of the creature’s existence. No gigantic feathers, bones or massive nests have been discovered or uncovered thus far.

On the American side of the border there are many native groups who have similar legends of gigantic birds collectively classified as “Thunderbirds.” These huge nocturnal birds are in the oral histories of the peoples of the Southwest and the Pacific Northwest and can be found among the Algonquin, the Ojibwe and Winnebago of the northern US and Canada. The Thunderbird has garnered serious interest from cryptozoologists – those who study fabled or yet-unknown animals – as sightings of these massive birds have also continued through to the 21st Century.

Grey_Alien_headThe Lechuza might turn out not be the stuff of legend or a mysterious animal yet undiscovered. It could have a more otherworldly origin. Many people connected with the alien abduction phenomenon have reported the sighting of owls before and during their supposed abduction experiences. Many alleged abductees, or “experiencers,” claim that the owl is used as a “screen memory” to take the place of the aliens themselves so as to cause the human less trauma in dealing with the abduction experience. Owls are often associated with arrival of The Greys, the short, menacing, spindly, hairless creatures with big black eyes who carry off humans for experimentation and tests in UFO lore.

The topic of screen memories and the alien use of owls is discussed at length in a nearly 400-page book by Mike Clelland titled The Messengers: Owls, Synchronicity and the UFO Abductee. Whitley Strieber, the author of the famous book about the alien abduction phenomenon, Communion, also links owls to the arrival of The Greys. Could the Lechuza be used to manipulate people during an alien abduction? The possibility that the Lechuza is being used by The Greys in their nefarious doings is not off the table here.

So, is this massive bird a figure of the collective imagination? Is it a genuine cryptid? Is it part of something not of this earth? There has been very little serious investigation into the Lechuza and for now the creature remains mostly the stuff of legend and a way to keep children inside and safe. It’s an interesting phenomenon, but it is waiting for some serious examination.

These things do exist in my opinion... 4 foot tall "baby" that I saw kept me wondering when I walked out of my car up to the cabin, some 60 feet away.. I still to this day when I go outside at nite, listen carefully..

[RunningDeer]

The bird appears to be a huge white barn owl with a 15-foot wingspan. Some dismiss this as a hoax or a fake, something cropped and photoshopped. This, however, is the only piece of photographic proof of the creature’s existence. No gigantic feathers, bones or massive nests have been discovered or uncovered thus far.

I wondered if it was real.
BTW: I wasn't able to find the 4' variety.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/big-owl.jpg

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/owl-legend2.jpg

[Bob]

There certainly is a chill on the back of the neck.. Hairs raised.. I don't normally spook.. Something was there.. Only one other time, in the area near Alamosa, in Dead Man's creek area Colorado, a sound was noted by the two others with me, a screech like what they had never heard before, but of all things I didn't hear it (not for a week afterwards at home oddly enough).. The friends described it as something swooping down (big wings like) flying overhead, then out into the valley..

Scared the pants off them.. But again, I didn't hear it at the time, strange..

[Tangri]

Owls are important at Babilion and old Egypt stories. Because of the King Salomon's relation of an owl( I believe it related with his ring), Jews believe that Owls are mystical creatures.


PS "it is only bird which didn't want to give away it's feather for King's daughter's wedding".

[Valerie Villars]

Thanks for the videos. That is what I heard. But only a small part of what I heard, saw and experienced. Mike and Jordan nailed the essence of the experience. My et's were disguised as humans. LOL. All in all remarkable.

Maybe that is what is required, is pulling one thread. I have been trying to unravel the whole carpet and it hasn't worked thus far. You just can't make sense of some things, as it is so outside of our understanding here.

More bird stuff. There was an owl which would perch on a tree right by the deck at my Mom's house after she passed away. In broad daylight.

My son's first word wasn't Mom or Dad. It was bird.

Why do birds have wings? Because they can fly. There is way more on this subject than meets the eye.

Messenger=Angel=Bird=Wings Bird's eye view.

[Bill Ryan]

My et's were disguised as humans.

Folks, I suspect this is the bigger picture. This may not be just about owls... that might be just a very interesting but distinct set of case studies.

Allowing ourselves to speculate wildly, just maybe ETs (or some ETs) can present themselves as absolutely anything they like, 100% physically, solidly and convincingly.

Like owls, humans, 'Men in Black' — (and in earlier times) faeries, leprechauns, angels, demons, and other creatures that were widely believed in at the time.

HOW they do this may be the golden keycard to understanding the true nature of what we think is 'reality'.

I do think this might be the wider discussion here. (Again, The Holographic Universe (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michael%20Talbot%20-%20The%20Holographic%20Universe.pdf) is required reading. :) )

[Foxie Loxie]

Bill....The Holographic Universe link doesn't seem to work?





Mod note from Bill: Definitely fixed now. My apologies. Working too fast. :)

[Valerie Villars]

Weird. I edited my post BEFORE I saw Bill's post. And yes about the holographic thing.

[Valerie Villars]

One more thing. We bought a small farm in Louisiana in May. When the inspector came out, one of the first things he told me was that he had saved a hawk on this very small highway, many years ago. I immediately thought about the whole bird connection and the significance of me saving that injured cardinal.

[sunwings]

At first this thread seems a little way out there...but it does link a few anomalies together which I never could understand.

Why is there an Owl on the one dollar Bill?

http://www.jar2.com/2/Money/maxresdefault.jpg

At Bohemian Grove why do they worship Molech the owl?

https://i2.wp.com/illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/shrineowlnew.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/cb/4c/be/cb4cbecc523f62e8b075eac8694f647a--bohemian-grove-the-bohemian.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/TRT4ODLeUkI/AAAAAAAAOsY/Iq34g_j2Yh8/s400/NWO.jpg

Many Illuminati / celebrities incorporate owls into their work?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/f7/4c/d2f74cbc7dd7a8991e3132eb5b0c1fff.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IlluminatiWatcherDotCom-Katy-Perry-Unconditionally-Moloch-Owl.jpg

https://hollywoodstreetking.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/drake-deal-with-devil.jpg

Owls also appear in politics. Why is there an owl in the middle of the pentagon building?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/26/6e/ef/266eef26570838c1d9f078b444666d7c.jpg

And on capitol Hill in Washington D.C. ? Looks like an owl as well...?

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/pictures/washington-owl.jpg

[sunwings]

There is a movie called the fourth kind which is based on true events and actual testimonies from different people who did not know each other and backed up by recordings from the psychiatrist who treated them, who all said they saw owls :angel:but then realized they were not owls but something else so terrifying, that they went in to a psychotic panic under hypnosis and had to be brought back out of it quickly and we're unable to talk about it. The movie is creepy as hell and the fact that it was based on true testimonies is even more disturbing but there has to be something to this owl thing.

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[Tam]

Just a little PSA for anyone that owns a kindle: The Messengers is free with a Kindle Unlimited subscription.

Well, "free".

I don't mean to throw in what's essentially an advertisement in here, but I've found that it's quite worth the 10 USD/month I put into it. It gives you access to tons of books you can read and keep as long as your subscription is active. Most alternative/esoteric works on Kindle are part of the unlimited program.

Otherwise, it's worth buying, and to support the author!

I was really skeptical about this one, but since it was free, I figured it couldn't hurt, so I picked it up. Read the whole thing in 2 days.

I will be buying my own copy once my next paycheck comes in :)

Seriously, read this book. It's very, very interesting.

[AutumnW]

There is a movie called the fourth kind which is based on true events and actual testimonies from different people who did not know each other and backed up by recordings from the psychiatrist who treated them, who all said they saw owls :angel:but then realized they were not owls but something else so terrifying, that they went in to a psychotic panic under hypnosis and had to be brought back out of it quickly and we're unable to talk about it. The movie is creepy as hell and the fact that it was based on true testimonies is even more disturbing but there has to be something to this owl thing.

r25ZUxTURis

Sun Wings, I researched the movie a while back and found that it was complete fiction. It is still well worth watching. It's really well done.

[onawah]

Owls have good Medicine in Native American tradition, and can also be quite humorous
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http://blog.shamansmarket.com/the-medicine-and-mythology-of-owls/

ANIMAL MEDICINE SHAMANISM
The Medicine and Mythology of Owls
November 18, 2015, by Aleeiah

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Owls have been around in my life for a very long time. The title “Owl Woman” follows me around. Sometimes I get emails from people asking me about the meaning of seeing an owl or dreaming of one.

Every now and then, I come across people who fear The Owl, and some go to great lengths to avoid being around one.

Maybe The Owl has appeared for you when you’ve been through dark times? Know the old saying: “Don’t shoot the messenger?” i.e., be nice to Owls.

What this translates to, is that it’s time for you to truly look at your shadow stuff. Maybe you’ve avoided facing certain truths about your life? If you heard the Owl call, rest assured, it can no longer be avoided. It’s time to do the work now.

An aspect of your psyche has been in the shadow for too long, and is now being called to the light. The Owl brings you the gift of uncovering this truth. Having an owl appear in your life points to spiritual work. What is your spirit call? The real work you are here to do?

Out of all totem animals, it is The Owl that leads you fastest along the path of truth. And the path of truth is the highway to enlightenment.

What is The Medicine of The Owl?
Owls have the ability to see in the dark and fly noiselessly through the skies. They often bring messages through dreams. The Owl can see that which others cannot.

The Owl is a bringer of deep, mystical wisdom, and a carrier of ancient knowledge.

Owl looks upon reality without distortion and acknowledges it, with the awareness that with spiritual insight, she can alter her reality at will.

It is a great honor to have an Owl appear in your life, for it is a sign that you have gained enough wisdom to step into some serious spiritual work.

This kind of work is not something you can dabble in just a little bit, or dip your toes in the water without going in all the way.

Call upon The Owl when you want to uncover the truth and nothing but the truth, need deeper inner vision, and are ready to integrate unwanted and hidden aspects of your shadow into light.

[gord]

I've had a significant number of strange owl experiences starting when I was about 5. The most recent and strangest of all was overnight July 8-9 2011. I'm not comfortable describing any of them in public, and maybe not even at all.

I bought a copy of the book almost a year ago, but haven't read it yet.

I've been fascinated with owls forever. So was my mom.

Here's a picture of an owl she sketched and embroidered from scratch when I was 6 or 7. It's about 14x20 inches:

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[onawah]

That one reminds me a little of "Transformer Owl" :heh:
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I've had a significant number of strange owl experiences starting when I was about 5. The most recent and strangest of all was overnight July 8-9 2011. I'm not comfortable describing any of them in public, and maybe not even at all.

I bought a copy of the book almost a year ago, but haven't read it yet.

I've been fascinated with owls forever. So was my mom.

Here's a picture of an owl she sketched and embroidered from scratch when I was 6 or 7. It's about 14x20 inches:

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[Bill Ryan]

From Mike Clelland, an hour ago:

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Stories from The Messengers - the second owl book

Hello Comrades,

I apologize for the mass email. The second owl book, Stories from The Messengers, is now available on Amazon. It’s selling amazingly well, and this is exciting for me.

I am now in the phase of shameless self-promotion.
https://amazon.com/dp/B079WJ5PC8
I am writing to ask if you could do a quick review on Amazon.

Sadly, in this modern era of electronic publishing, the reviews on Amazon have an enormous influence in book sales.

A quick review would be helpful, as of now there are zero noted for the book. I realize most of you receiving this email have not read the book, and I understand the ethical dilemma. The content is very similar in tone to the first book.

I am deeply grateful for your support.

Thank you!
Mike C

[onawah]

Dolan discusses the significance of owls again here: http://kgraradioarchives.com/shows/richard-dolan-show/?loc=2018
03-05-2018
A Broader Definition of UFOs!
KGRA - The Richard Dolan Show - A Broader Definition of UFOs

[RunningDeer]

Dolan discusses the significance of owls again here:
03-05-2018
A Broader Definition of UFOs!
KGRA - The Richard Dolan Show - A Broader Definition of UFOs

Thanks onawah. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/popcorn.gif
The Richard Dolan Show - "A Broader Definition of UFOs" - download 3/5/2018 show (http://kgraradioarchives.com/shows/richard-dolan-show/?loc=2018) (98 MB)

Note:
Rather than specifically focus on owls, Richard covered a broad range of topics.

[onawah]

I should have made clear that owls are not discussed at length there, but are mentioned within the context of this thread as a mysterious harbinger of unusual events.
The show is about a broad range of topics and not just about owls. Apologies for the lack of clarity. :nod: (Also for forgetting to provide the link! :facepalm:
I've corrected that above.



Dolan discusses the significance of owls again here:
03-05-2018
A Broader Definition of UFOs!
KGRA - The Richard Dolan Show - A Broader Definition of UFOs

Thanks onawah. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/popcorn.gif
The Richard Dolan Show - "A Broader Definition of UFOs" - download 3/5/2018 show (http://kgraradioarchives.com/shows/richard-dolan-show/?loc=2018) (98 MB)

Note:
Rather than specifically focus on owls, Richard covered a broad range of topics. It could be that I grabbed the wrong show.

[Valerie Villars]

I listened to this and it was good. What I like about his style is his way of entertaining all possibilities regarding the et dilemna and the fact that he doesn't discount anecdotal evidence. He gave a lot of creedance to it. The anecdotal stuff is generally more of a spiritual nature, whereas the hard, material, craft in the sky stuff seems to lean more toward the scientific. One is as real as the other. Either way, they (et's) seem intent upon pushing boundaries and gauging our reactions to the phenomenon.

[Swansea UFO Network]

It`s an interesting subject,have talked to a good few experiencers who whilst having a sighting have been suprised when asked if they had seen any owls near the the timing of sightings or after,some have said how did you know they had.It`s a screen memory they use so you can`t see the real et`s & often think so it does`t scare (often greys) .

[moriarty]

'The owls are not what they seem' - this thread made me remember that line from the original series of Twin Peaks, so I had to see if I could find a utube link - this scene could not be more pertinent if it tried!

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[muxfolder]

'The owls are not what they seem' - this thread made me remember that line from the original series of Twin Peaks, so I had to see if I could find a utube link - this scene could not be more pertinent if it tried!

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One of my favorite scenes in Twin Peaks among hundreds of others.:) And one of the mysteries in TP that really made me think what the hell, why would they mention all this? What's with the owls and why owls specifically? There are some really strange things in Twin Peaks (it's David Lynch after all) and especially in season 3.

BTW, I'm watching Stargate SG-1 right now as we speak. Don S. Davis (RIP) playing the same role.:) One of those tv-series that everyone here should see.

[Hervé]

Feathery Wedding Crasher: Owl Attacks Guest at Ceremony (https://sputniknews.com/videoclub/201803291063022060-owl-wedding-attack/)

Sputnik
Videoclub (https://sputniknews.com/videoclub/)13:08 29.03.2018
(updated 13:13 29.03.2018)


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© Photo: Lena


A trained bird was supposed to bring wedding rings to a marrying couple in England, when suddenly something went completely wrong...

In the British village of Pekforton, Cheshire, a wedding guest was attacked by a barn owl. The ceremony took place at Pekforton Castle. A trained owl flew into the room to bring wedding rings.

The bird flew to the best man and sat down on his arm, but then rose again into the air and dived into the man in the front row. He was not ready for the attack and fell to the floor. After that, the wedding went on, and the barn owl sat calmly on the table.


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[Valerie Villars]

Just saw a little owl sitting in the middle of a gravel road while we were driving in a wooded area. I'll wait to see if anything is connected to it.

[Did You See Them]

Quite a few encounters myself including having relatives that lived in an old vicarage with a wild owl we all called Ollie that would come and tap on the window for liver treats. Was around for a good few years.

[Justplain]

Regarding the 'tapestry of life', i believe that the 'storyboarding' is part of the fabric of reality that our higherselves manipulate to create syncronicities. I have recorded these in my own life and they have nothing to do with et's in my experience, anyways.
My guess is that the et's/ut's can tap into that functionality but are not the creators of reality.

I would also raise a caution about the 'benefits' of abductions. My personal experience of a grey sucking fluids out of my knee, and other corroborating experiences offered by others such as Truman Cash, etc., paint a traumatic picture of what happens when humans interact with et's/ut's. Like Richard Dolan comments in the audio in the OP, we are outmatched.

There maybe some benevolant et's out there, such as the aboriginal woman discussed by Clelland, who had a lifechanging spiritual experience. Just, i would raise a word of caution and ensure that your heart and intent are in the right place before proceeding.

[conk]

My skin is crawling! My daughter has insisted, since a very young age, that she is an owl. We've called her Hootie then and still. She was compelled to get a large (and beautiful) tattoo of an owl on her upper arm.

Yes, she and her older sister have very unique experiences that beg a deeper understanding. Will have to buy this book.

[Zampano]

Last year an owl got stuck in some weeds in my garden...I found her accidentally when I was harvesting some veggies.
Probably it saw a mouse and went down the tree to catch it, but got stuck in the high grass and weeds.
Poor little thing couldnt find its way out and was completely exhausted from trying to escape. It was probably afternoon and it was struggling for some time.

I called the wild bird sanctuary and the woman told me to put a blanket on it to calm it down. My heart was pounding, because I have never seen an owl in broad daylight and, even though it looked pretty scruffy-wow what a magnificient creature. The woman came an hour later or so to pick her up and I managed to take some nice pictures.

What fascinated me the most, were the pitch black calming eyes-besides of the enormous size of this owl. The woman took it to the wild bird sanctuary to the vet for a check up and luckily the owl was ok, just exhausted. Just a few hours later she freed the owl and told me, that it will come most probably back to my place, because its forrest arround and the perfect habitat. It will find its way back, even though my place is like 50 km away from the sanctuary.

I named the owl after my father (Francis), because he collects miniature owls.
I dont know if Francis came back, but the mice are gone from the garden :ROFL:

This wasnt a mystical experience per se, but a wonderful encounter with a very beatiful creature. The eyes of Francis were just incredible-pitch black, gentle and a high sense of alertness.

The woman said, that I really saved the life of Francis! WOW

After that I found the Mike Clelland interview on the Higherside Chats show and another one. I really like what he has to say and find he is a very sincere and funny person.

[Valerie Villars]

Zampano, those photos and your story made my day. :bearhug:

[Sunny-side-up]

What's really interesting about what Mike Clelland presents is the mind-bender that looks like this:

If:


An ET (or UT = UltraTerrestrial) can present itself as an owl (and actually fly),
A reptilian can present itself as a human, wearing real human clothes (without busting all the seams),
Inexplicable coincidences can manifest themselves (as if being storyboarded),

...what does this say about the nature of our reality??

Add this to your examples Bill.
Being able to start to drive along a windy road at 30-40 miles an hour and at the same time (Time?) consciousness being in hi (possibly out above orbit) looking down at the whole planet.
Then going back into the body driving the car but at the end of the road.
My little body was haply driving the car while I was out in hi orbit.
This really gives one an expansion of view on reality.

[Flyswim]

Just thought I'd bump this fascinating 'owl thread' with a new interview with Mike Clelland. He discusses his book ‘The Messengers: Owls, Synchronicity, and the UFO Abductee’, and asks fundamental questions about the nature of reality itself, tying the UFO phenomenon not simply to possible extraterrestrial intelligences, but to synchronicities, ancient archetypes, dreams, shamanistic experiences, magic, personal transformation, and death. The interviewer is Greg Moffitt from http://legalise-freedom.com/ It's an hour long and well worth a listen. Just click on the link below, if interested:

http://legalise-freedom.com/audio/LF269-Mike-Clelland.mp3

[Forest Denizen]

:bump: :bump: :bump:

This is a fascinating thread and after an experience I had yesterday morning, I figured I’d post it here.

Every Saturday and Sunday morning, and any other day that I don’t have to be at work, I start the day at the beach. I get up freakishly early, take my coffee, and head for the ocean.

It’s completely dark and I drag my beach chair onto the sand to where the waves are breaking and the surf is rolling in. I stop barely beyond water’s reach and have a seat. I thank the stars for all that I’m grateful for and express my wish for a little peace, love, and understanding for humanity in general..

I say a word or two to my mother and my beloved friends and relatives and nonhuman family members who are no longer here in the flesh. The veil seems thinner in the wee hours and I feel more at one with and connected to the infinite.

I’m usually there by around 4:45 in the morning and I stay for about an hour. It’s a nice way to start the day. It works for me. If I happen to wake up in a ****ty mood, disturbing dreams, feeling lonely, whatever.. I almost always feel better by the time I leave.

Anyway, yesterday morning as I was on my way back from the beach along a dark and winding road.. still pitch black out and threatening rain, my mind was wandering a bit and I just started thinking about owls I have seen in my life and the relative significance of these experiences.

Kind of random but you know how these things happen when you’re driving somewhere familiar, thoughts just pop into our heads..

So I’m musing about these owls I have met, in the wilderness usually, when suddenly, a large owl appears out of nowhere, flies up from off to my right, crosses right in front of my windshield and disappears in the darkness off to my left!!

WHOA! Holy Crap!! And no, pretty sure I wasn’t abducted (pretty sure) but highly synchronistic, right?!?

[Chester]

This just gets stranger and stranger. I have a full day today and need to hop in the shower to work out, but all these threads of what happened to me keep getting tied together in all this literature I am reading here. I will read the book.

Oh yeah, the synchronicities were mind blowing.

What you pointed to is something I have experienced often. What happened with me over time is that a.) the synchronicities increased in number, b.) they increased in profundity, c.) they increased in complexity and d.) started to form what I call, synchronicity strings where one after another after another after another, etc. happen where a web is formed that is filled with synchronistic "dot-connection" which eventually becomes so powerful and yet so powerfully distracting, that I could loose hours of time chasing them all down their rabbit holes. And the next thing I know... I have to extricate myself from "it" by an action of concentrated will.

In other words, of all the various "things" (whether they be substances or gambling or sex or conspiracy research or incredible books or movies or any other form of attention grabbing activity I might engage) I learned that the bottom line for me is my love for addiction and the one I seem to need to "control" more than any other is this enchantment I have with synchronicity.

I just love it! But, also, it so easily gets out of hand... uggghhh.

I am only speaking for myself and replied to a post because the post stimulated my thoughts and my admission.