Russia screams their heads off as the US retaliates against Russia's nuclear UAV

[Bob]

Typical.. Cold war tactics once again, thinking social media is going to be the turning point for the Russian Psyops maneuvers.. As if the dialogues about "Russian Hacking" (standard Russian Psyops against the "big enemy" (US) is going to change anything except for the newbies who haven't followed the strategic PR efforts by Russia (and China BTW) since the '60s)...

Pentagon acknowledges Russia is developing a 'doomsday' nuclear-armed torpedo

Russia has had the lead in underwater UAV (underwater unmanned vehicles) for quite some time, and letting them position such off the coast of the western powers (and no doubt Hong Kong) is real stupid.

Russia is developing a new underwater torpedo with a nuclear warhead described as a “doomsday weapon,” according to a new Defense Department report.

The Pentagon quietly acknowledged that Russia is developing a “Status-6” system for the first time ever on Friday with a 74-page report.

The Nuclear Posture Review described a “new intercontinental, nuclear-armed, nuclear-powered, undersea autonomous torpedo,” which could be deployed from beneath a submarine.

When they scream their head off with RT dot com talking heads, or other social media outlets, newbies just don't get it, Russia hasn't changed its tune, and it's never been our friend.. Poking fingers at the US is the way it's been.. Russia knows how to use social media and is quite an expert.

I should at some point bring up the studies which make MKULTRA seem like a kindergarten exercise about Russia (and China's) medical experiments on chemical and viral weapons of the 50's and 60's.. The US has hardly caught up with the atrocities created by the Russian and Chinese militaries..

Don't think they have the best interests of humanity at heart..

With Trump going for upgrading the US Nuclear arsenal to keep up with the Russian advances, the US is woefully about 15 years behind the Russian weapons systems. As to the US being potentially threatened, that is only ONE of the many locations Russia has targeted for strategic blackmail..


The torpedo could feasibly travel undetected for thousands of miles underwater, before unleashing radioactive fallout on coastal cities in the U.S.

News of the Status-6 system first surfaced in 2015, when a Russian state television broadcast showed Russian President Vladimir Putin looking at a graphic depicting the Status-6 system.

Russia huggers, get a life eh?.. IMHO bpbppbpbpbpbp

from http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42931269


Moscow has condemned US military proposals to develop new, smaller atomic bombs mainly to deter any Russian use of nuclear weapons.

Russia's foreign minister called the move "confrontational", and expressed "deep disappointment".

The proposals stem from concerns that Russia may see current US nuclear weapons as too big to be used.

This could mean, according to the US military, that those weapons are no longer an effective deterrent.

Russia's counterblast
The Russian foreign ministry accuses the US of warmongering in its statement, issued less than 24 hours after the US proposals were published.

The latest thinking was revealed in a Pentagon policy statement known as the Nuclear Posture Review (NPR).

Russia says it will take "necessary measures" to ensure Russian security.

Again, creating the nuclear UAV's and deploying them is certainly not a peaceful gesture.. It is typical of the doublespeak that the Russian psyops wants to push on the rest of the world, using social media as their platform..

Trumps strategy is to create mini-nukes or tactical nuclear devices, enough to create a sufficient yield to create efficient destruction of enemy targets while the Russian strategy is to create massive city-wide destroying UAV weapons. Trump's military proposes massive retaliation against Russian targets, similar to SWARMS, easily deployable where the Russians go for the "big one".. based on the cold war tactics of MOAB's (mother of all bombs).. If the MOAB can be stopped the Russians would have shot their wad so to speak, leaving the US with the capacity to create massive tactical destruction, using the nuclear swarm concept.

Who would win? Nobody wins in a war of this type; it is only an economic manipulation or strategic positioning of who has the bigger ________ than the opposition.. Stupid in the least, insane in the typical..

ref http://www.newsweek.com/trump-seeks-new-nukes-make-enemies-think-hed-actually-use-them-798864


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1na-4z1rQR4

[Bob]

In-case the social media remains skeptical of the Russian psyops program let us briefly pull up this - https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/welcome-to-russian-psychological-warfare-operations-101-57301


“Psychological warfare has existed as long as man himself.”

So begins a book purported to be an unauthorized reprint of the Russian military intelligence service’s (GRU) textbook on psychological warfare.

The book was published in Minsk in 1999.

But it has long been the basis of courses on psychological warfare for reserve officer training (ROTC) cadets at Moscow State University’s (MGU) journalism faculty, former students say.

“In the past people were able to influence each other only through direct contact,” the textbook reads. “Today, the means of influencing the human mind have become much more sophisticated, thanks to the accumulated knowledge of thousands of years, information technologies, communication, and management.”

While the purported GRU textbook was ahead of its time, several graduates of the MGU classes described lessons as archaic. The scale of the information space has grown since 1999, and control over it has become more critical to modern war. And now, Russia appears to be upgrading its efforts to dominate the information front.

On Feb. 22, the eve of Russia’s annual Defenders of the Fatherland holiday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the creation of a new “information operations force.” The announcement came just hours after the Foreign Ministry unveiled a new project to expose “fake news” published about Russia in the Western press.

“Propaganda needs to be smart, competent and effective,” Shoigu said, justifying the creation of a force capable of waging information war.

Shoigu’s comments regarding new information operations were vague, leaving it unclear exactly what the propaganda troops would do or who they would report to. Experts say they are likely to be part of the cyber forces — a military branch announced in 2013, but that Russian officials have since denied exists.

“They seem to be cyber troops [hackers], not information war troops [propagandists],” says Michael Kofman, a Russia security analyst at the Virginia-based CNA think tank. “The Russian military already has psychological operations units, but they are all useless. It’s the GRU that does all the real information war.”

Others suggest that the force will do both hacking and propaganda. Russia’s understanding of what constitutes information war is much broader than the West’s, says Mark Galeotti, an expert on Russian security and defense services at the Institute of International Relations Prague. For Moscow, “information operations” include everything from propaganda and disinformation to psychological and cyber warfare.

“Things we tend to compartmentalize (and label with weasel expressions such as ‘strategic communications’) are to the Russians all part of one seamless domain relating to the human, morale-and-will side of warfare,” Galeotti says. Shoigu emphasized propaganda, a word that has a far less negative connotation in Russia, “but that is only part of the force’s true remit.”


New Dog, Old Tricks
Vladimir Shamanov, the head of the State Duma’s defense committee, offered some insight into how the Russians see the new military force. It will be tasked with, among other things, countering information operations conducted by enemy states. “Information conflict is part of general conflict,” he said.

Despite flashy repackaging, the militarization of information is not new in Russia. Psychological warfare has been a staple of Russian ROTC programs since the Cold War. It is also taught as a military science in the journalism faculties of major educational institutions such as Moscow State University.

“My rank after graduating [from the course] in the early 2000s was lieutenant and I was a deputy division chief of staff for intelligence,” says Dmitry, a former officer who's name has been changed to protect his anonymity. “It guaranteed I wouldn’t be drafted into the regular forces and sent to Chechnya. But in the case of a full-scale war [with NATO], I was to oversee psyops against their troops and civilians.”

Dmitry says that he and his fellow cadets were trained explicitly for a major conventional land war with NATO.

The purported GRU textbook that the courses are modeled on even advises different approaches to waging psychological warfare on different NATO members. So, the Germans have an “abstract-logical” way of thinking, but "prefer clearly reasoned facts and calculations,” the textbook says. "The French and Americans love visuals. The Germans also love visuals, but only those which have double meanings. While the French prefer catchy ideas, emotional expressions and loud words."

Let's all turn on RT.com and have a good laugh.. Shame that Jesse Ventura has been given a spot on there. I kinda liked the guy.. I guess whomever pays the bills eh? Mercinary? Maybe..
(see https://www.rt.com/shows/the-world-according-to-jesse/) deep sigh.. "earth is a complex system.." to coin a phrase.

[chancy]

In-case the social media remains skeptical of the Russian psyops program let us briefly pull up this - https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/welcome-to-russian-psychological-warfare-operations-101-57301


“Psychological warfare has existed as long as man himself.”

So begins a book purported to be an unauthorized reprint of the Russian military intelligence service’s (GRU) textbook on psychological warfare.

The book was published in Minsk in 1999.

But it has long been the basis of courses on psychological warfare for reserve officer training (ROTC) cadets at Moscow State University’s (MGU) journalism faculty, former students say.

“In the past people were able to influence each other only through direct contact,” the textbook reads. “Today, the means of influencing the human mind have become much more sophisticated, thanks to the accumulated knowledge of thousands of years, information technologies, communication, and management.”

While the purported GRU textbook was ahead of its time, several graduates of the MGU classes described lessons as archaic. The scale of the information space has grown since 1999, and control over it has become more critical to modern war. And now, Russia appears to be upgrading its efforts to dominate the information front.

On Feb. 22, the eve of Russia’s annual Defenders of the Fatherland holiday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the creation of a new “information operations force.” The announcement came just hours after the Foreign Ministry unveiled a new project to expose “fake news” published about Russia in the Western press.

“Propaganda needs to be smart, competent and effective,” Shoigu said, justifying the creation of a force capable of waging information war.

Shoigu’s comments regarding new information operations were vague, leaving it unclear exactly what the propaganda troops would do or who they would report to. Experts say they are likely to be part of the cyber forces — a military branch announced in 2013, but that Russian officials have since denied exists.

“They seem to be cyber troops [hackers], not information war troops [propagandists],” says Michael Kofman, a Russia security analyst at the Virginia-based CNA think tank. “The Russian military already has psychological operations units, but they are all useless. It’s the GRU that does all the real information war.”

Others suggest that the force will do both hacking and propaganda. Russia’s understanding of what constitutes information war is much broader than the West’s, says Mark Galeotti, an expert on Russian security and defense services at the Institute of International Relations Prague. For Moscow, “information operations” include everything from propaganda and disinformation to psychological and cyber warfare.

“Things we tend to compartmentalize (and label with weasel expressions such as ‘strategic communications’) are to the Russians all part of one seamless domain relating to the human, morale-and-will side of warfare,” Galeotti says. Shoigu emphasized propaganda, a word that has a far less negative connotation in Russia, “but that is only part of the force’s true remit.”


New Dog, Old Tricks
Vladimir Shamanov, the head of the State Duma’s defense committee, offered some insight into how the Russians see the new military force. It will be tasked with, among other things, countering information operations conducted by enemy states. “Information conflict is part of general conflict,” he said.

Despite flashy repackaging, the militarization of information is not new in Russia. Psychological warfare has been a staple of Russian ROTC programs since the Cold War. It is also taught as a military science in the journalism faculties of major educational institutions such as Moscow State University.

“My rank after graduating [from the course] in the early 2000s was lieutenant and I was a deputy division chief of staff for intelligence,” says Dmitry, a former officer who's name has been changed to protect his anonymity. “It guaranteed I wouldn’t be drafted into the regular forces and sent to Chechnya. But in the case of a full-scale war [with NATO], I was to oversee psyops against their troops and civilians.”

Dmitry says that he and his fellow cadets were trained explicitly for a major conventional land war with NATO.

The purported GRU textbook that the courses are modeled on even advises different approaches to waging psychological warfare on different NATO members. So, the Germans have an “abstract-logical” way of thinking, but "prefer clearly reasoned facts and calculations,” the textbook says. "The French and Americans love visuals. The Germans also love visuals, but only those which have double meanings. While the French prefer catchy ideas, emotional expressions and loud words."

Let's all turn on RT.com and have a good laugh.. Shame that Jesse Ventura has been given a spot on there. I kinda liked the guy.. I guess whomever pays the bills eh? Mercinary? Maybe..
(see https://www.rt.com/shows/the-world-according-to-jesse/) deep sigh.. "earth is a complex system.." to coin a phrase.

Hello Bob:
It's always amazing to hear this kind of talk! It appears that you haven't checked out history. There is only one country on the planet that has used nuclear bombs to kill people. I hope you know the answer to that because it appears that you missed that part of history.
Here is a link that gives info on that part of history:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/this-map-shows-every-nuclear-explosion-in-history-a6914056.html

There are many many many countries with nuclear weapons. Why go after russia? They haven't used nuclear bombs on anyone
IF you are so worried about someone slinging nuclear weapons at another country you might want to read up on history!
Just in case you don't read the link there were almost 250,000 innocent people killed in Japan by nuclear bombs

I personally like rt.com and Jesse Ventura. I think they make a great outlet for information in this world.
chancy

[AutumnW]

The U.S military industrial complex has bases in nearly every country on the planet and a nuclear arsenal that 'leads' the world. They are an imperialist killing and occupying machine. The neo-cons arrange the killing, the neo-libs force markets open and impose NGO's and other such humanitarian aid crap on those they have destroyed.

Read about the Gaza Strip, read about Palestine, the Ukraine, Iraq, and the push into Iran and see what monsters do. Read about how they helped to destroy post Gorbachev Russia, through Yeltzin. Putin is trying to,pick up the pieces, at great cost and under threat of annihilation at every step.

[CurEus]

But if our Secret Space programs are so freakishly advanced and ET's despise nukes....evidenced by their shutting them down. Are we not safe from this dog and pony show?

[Bob]

"Kanyon" - Russian reports indicate it could be outfitted with a 100-megaton nuclear warhead. *(MOAB device).

https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/AU4Z4LlPuwezjvCtSxaOjsyZAhc=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/WSXCBIK6OBHCNFRP2YYSX33SHQ.png


“In addition to modernizing ‘legacy’ Soviet nuclear systems, Russia is developing and deploying new nuclear warheads and launchers,” stated an unclassified draft of the nuclear posture review first published by the Huffington Post.

“These efforts include multiple upgrades for every leg of the Russian nuclear triad of strategic bombers, sea-based missiles and land-based missiles. Russia is also developing at least two new intercontinental range systems, a hypersonic glide vehicle and a new intercontinental, nuclear-armed undersea autonomous torpedo.”

ref: https://www.defensenews.com/space/2018/01/12/russias-nuclear-underwater-drone-is-real-and-in-the-nuclear-posture-review/

Trumps military calls for Hiroshima sized devices, or tactical devices or smaller to deal with those who would use a 100 megaton nuclear device against any of the WEST. Enough to destroy the infrastructures of the aggressors.

"Status-6 was built by Rubin Design Bureau, the largest of Russia’s three submarine manufacturers. According to a document shown on Russian television, the drone has a range of 6,200 miles, a top speed in excess of 56 knots and can descend to depths of 3,280 feet below sea level, the Beacon reported."


The United States is concerned about Russia’s continued development of “increasingly diverse and expanding nuclear capabilities,” especially coupled with Moscow’s perception that it could conduct a nuclear attack as a way to “ ’de-escalate’ a conflict on terms favorable to Russia,” the review stated.

Trumps military response is to modernize its nuclear arsenal. As pointed out in the OP post 1, typical cold war mentality.

[Bob]

reference: re post 2 above, - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?utm_term=.679bd01af425


Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of websites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers. The effort also sought to heighten the appearance of international tensions and promote fear of looming hostilities with nuclear-armed Russia.

Foreign Policy Institute Study on Russian Psyops using Social Media:


“They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who along with two other researchers has tracked Russian propaganda since 2014. “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”

PropOrNot preliminary study on Russian Propaganda -


PropOrNot’s monitoring report, which was provided to The Washington Post in advance of its public release, identifies more than 200 websites as routine peddlers of Russian propaganda during the election season, with combined audiences of at least 15 million Americans. On Facebook, PropOrNot estimates that stories planted or promoted by the disinformation campaign were viewed more than 213 million times.

Tactics Used by the Psyops -


The Russian campaign during this election season, researchers from both groups say, worked by harnessing the online world’s fascination with “buzzy” content that is surprising and emotionally potent, and tracks with popular conspiracy theories about how secret forces dictate world events.

Some of these stories originated with RT and Sputnik, state-funded Russian information services that mimic the style and tone of independent news organizations yet sometimes include false and misleading stories in their reports, the researchers say. On other occasions, RT, Sputnik and other Russian sites used social-media accounts to amplify misleading stories already circulating online, causing news algorithms to identify them as “trending” topics that sometimes prompted coverage from mainstream American news organizations.

Meaning MSM can easily be misleaded if the "trendy stuff" gains traction, even if it was originated by a psyops action. Then such spreads through social media, where "emotional" people pick it up and add their own emotion to the psyops, and "trolling" happens when the psyops feels 'threatened'.


The speed and coordination of these efforts allowed Russian-backed phony news to outcompete traditional news organizations for audience.

and


A former U.S. ambassador to Russia, Michael A. McFaul, said he was struck by the overt support that Sputnik expressed for Trump during the campaign, even using the #CrookedHillary hashtag pushed by the candidate. McFaul said Russian propaganda typically is aimed at weakening opponents and critics. Trump’s victory, though reportedly celebrated by Putin and his allies in Moscow, may have been an unexpected benefit of an operation that already had fueled division in the United States. (hashtag: another Russian information service "Sputnik" did use this hashtag, RT did not.)

“They don’t try to win the argument,” said McFaul, now director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University.

“It’s to make everything seem relative. It’s kind of an appeal to cynicism.”

Easy to see the cynicism.


From Rand studying RT and Sputnik tactics "overwhelm the audience"

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/perspectives/PE100/PE198/RAND_PE198.pdf


We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda
as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive
features: high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless
willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.

In the words of one observer, “[N]ew Russian propaganda entertains,
confuses and overwhelms the audience.”

Contemporary Russian propaganda has at least two other
distinctive features. It is also rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and
it lacks commitment to consistency.

Interestingly, several of these features run directly counter to
the conventional wisdom on effective influence and communication
from government or defense sources, which traditionally
emphasize the importance of truth, credibility, and the avoidance
of contradiction.

Spreading and promulgating FALSE information

"Sometimes, Russian propaganda is picked up and rebroadcast by legitimate news outlets; more frequently, social media repeats the themes, messages, or falsehoods introduced by one of Russia’s many dissemination channels. "

It's not hard to see RT and Sputnik quoted in social media over and over, instead of doing individual research on the topic at hand in the "news".

From the RAND study - observations on how 'they' mess with people's minds.


Repeated exposure to a statement has been shown to increase
its acceptance as true.


• The “illusory truth effect” is well documented, whereby
people rate statements as more truthful, valid, and believable
when they have encountered those statements previously than
when they are new statements.

• When people are less interested in a topic, they are more
likely to accept familiarity brought about by repetition as an
indicator that the information (repeated to the point of familiarity)
is correct.

• When processing information, consumers may save time and
energy by using a frequency heuristic, that is, favoring information
they have heard more frequently.

• Even with preposterous stories and urban legends, those who
have heard them multiple times are more likely to believe that
they are true.

• If an individual is already familiar with an argument or claim
(has seen it before, for example), they process it less carefully,
often failing to discriminate weak arguments from strong
arguments.

Russian propaganda has the agility to be first, which affords
propagandists the opportunity to create the first impression.

Then, the combination of high-volume, multichannel, and continuous
messaging makes Russian themes more likely to be familiar to their
audiences, which gives them a boost in terms of perceived credibility,
expertise, and trustworthiness.

This is how the Russian psyops propaganda focuses on people's weaknesses:


Why might this disinformation be effective?

First, people are often cognitively lazy.

Due to information overload (especially
on the Internet), they use a number of different heuristics and
shortcuts to determine whether new information is trustworthy.

Second, people are often poor at discriminating true information
from false information—or remembering that they have done so
previously.

How the Russian propaganda is used in evoking the "trolling response" - (people are then accustomed to use "trolling techniques" created by the programming they are fed over and over)


Someone is more likely to accept information when it is consistent
with other messages that the person believes to be
true.

• People suffer from “confirmation bias”: They view news and
opinions that confirm existing beliefs as more credible than
other news and opinions, regardless of the quality of the
arguments.

• Someone who is already misinformed (that is, believes something
that is not true) is less likely to accept evidence that
goes against those misinformed beliefs.

• People whose peer group is affected by an event are much
more likely to accept conspiracy theories about that event.

• Stories or accounts that create emotional arousal in the recipient
(e.g., disgust, fear, happiness) are much more likely to be
passed on, whether they are true or not.

[Bob]

"Nuclear powered underwater drone allegedly aimed at carrying super-bad nuke weapon said to be tested on November 27th."

Kanyon is designed on the mother of all bombs concept, not to be used to "fight" a war against the military, but to devastate civilian population centers.

Designed to cause devastating damage

Kanyon, ( Status-6 ) is a torpedo-like vehicle that according to the leaked image may be a long as 80 feet, powered by a small nuclear reactor and with a range of 10,000 kilometers. The scary part is the warhead, believed to be a giant megatons thermonuclear weapon (100 megatons yield).

What is the size/effect of such a detonation? 3,000 times the size of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs. Russia HAS tested 50 megaton sized TSAR (codenamed) devices, to allow their aircraft bombers time to escape from the blast lest they be destroyed in the firing.

This Kanyon device is also designed to create a population destroying TSUNAMI hundreds of feet high - If the explosion happens near the surface, it can create some pretty big waves—under some circumstances, they can be hundreds of feet high near ground zero. Devastating tsunami to create the most devastating instant drowning of civilians. This device is NOT a tactical small mini nuke, it is a criminal diabolical weapon designed to lay in wait, positioned strategically underwater, (read in submarine canyons, or on the ocean bottom), just waiting for the Strategic Order from Putin or his lackies to detonate.


Speaking to the BBC, Konstantin Sivkov with the Russian Geopolitical Academy says a 100 megatons warhead could produce a tsunami up to 500 meters high, wiping out all living things 1,500 kilometers deep inside US territory.

That ain't no Hiroshima sized population damage device. It is diabolical. Russia HAS tested such TSAR devices. The US hasn't tested such diabolical devices of such yields that the Russians have. The US retaliation is to create mini-nuclear swarms, tactical small devices, with yields designed to be the size of the Hiroshima device, or smaller, designed for surgical retaliation against MILITARY targets, not civilians. The Russian Kanyon is designed to destroy HUMAN CIVILIZATIONS. There is a big difference.

Can't figure out what Trump is talking about as to who and what is the mechanism of Fake News yet?

It's obvious, read that RAND report above. It is enlightening.

[Justplain]

The economic and polictical interference of the USA thru the CIA in other countries is well documented in 'confessions of an economic hitman'. Freely elected governments are constantly being destablized by the cia, as documented in the movie 'the falcon and the snowman'. These destablized countries include chile, australia, Vietnam, ukraine, iran, etc. The USA is the perfect hypocrite to accuse Russia of interfering with its elections.

The USA has the biggest stockpile of nuclear and biological weapons. The USA has conducted multiple invasions of sovereign states based on false flag events, including iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam.

The world should be and is alarmed about the USA. Not Russia.

[Baby Steps]

I suspect that the Russians released this Submarine bomb info so that the public in the West realised that they are vulnerable.

'Don't mess with us'

It is important for peace that people remember that they are vulnerable, so that when their generals & leaders contemplate striking from behind an umbrella of missile defences, people remember that they will be hit back - retaliation is still credible.

True, Russian propaganda sows discord in the west. Factors strengthening this process are eroded trust in western media - content & standards, together with eroded trust in Western Governments, by their own people. Illegal wars do not help.

If our governments & media want to re-build trust, they need to behave better. Much Russian propaganda is critical. But remember, a true friend does not shrink from criticism. We can gain from good critics.

[Builder]

When they scream their head off with RT dot com talking heads, or other social media outlets, newbies just don't get it, Russia hasn't changed its tune, and it's never been our friend..

Your message sounds like a US information warfare counter operation.

[Bob]

I suspect that the Russians released this Submarine bomb info so that the public in the West realised that they are vulnerable.

'Don't mess with us'

It is important for peace that people remember that they are vulnerable, so that when their generals & leaders contemplate striking from behind an umbrella of missile defences, people remember that they will be hit back - retaliation is still credible.

True, Russian propaganda sows discord in the west. Factors strengthening this process are eroded trust in western media - content & standards, together with eroded trust in Western Governments, by their own people. Illegal wars do not help.

If our governments & media want to re-build trust, they need to behave better. Much Russian propaganda is critical. But remember, a true friend does not shrink from criticism. We can gain from good critics.

Again that is objective good logic ! Well done and thank you for being able to look intelligently at the cold-war mentality that the two current leaders are using against each other (and the world obviously).

Stating the obvious, providing background information, references is important. This thread goes over key points that are being used in social media by national powers as well as discussing why the US appears to be retaliating to a vastly superior Russian nuclear military might.

Rand's study points out quite clearly the overwhelm "freightrain" mentality of the two russian media outlets, and how they concentrate on pressing on people's habits, lack of critical analytical reading and desires for "sensationalism" that can badmouth and create unrest (read trolling) within societies. It may be getting close to time to get into the explanation of the war atrocities committed by the Chinese/North Vietnamese/N Korean/Russian (soviet) monstrocites - attrocities vastly greater than the US catch-up of MKULTRA and other programs. The US has a habit of being initially vastly inferior in human assault technologies, and after-the-fact realize that others in the world have them beat. When the US does catch-up though, what it does knocks the socks off the opponents, and those opponents are vastly afraid that the US will not just lie around waiting to be walked all over. Trump appears to realize this it seems. The ramping up of the ex-soviet propaganda is evidence of such it seems.

The US's opponents realize the vastly superior technology when the US does catch up, and passes by those others, and those others make a point of espionage, stealing what they can from the West to try to build their 'superior' products. We should also recall Stalin and the theft of the hydrogen bomb secrets (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/spies-who-spilled-atomic-bomb-secrets-127922660/), so that the soviets, the "red menace" could have a bomb all their own to threaten the world with. Not too hard to connect the dots when tyrannies swarm - seeing history repeat itself is not that hard a leap and looking at the logical outcomes provided people take the time to not buy into the convenient sound bites presented by "social media" looking for 'thumbs up' and reposts of propaganda.. Again, read the RAND report above is some good advice to catch up on 'how it is done' and to whom and for what reasons.

*ref "red menace" - red menace, urban interpretation

The justified and legitimate organic anxiety of a nation facing a rising totalitarian threat from communism. Communists were invading and annexing countries on the European continent including the Baltics, colonizing and overthrowing the governments in other parts of the globe, and building weapons in a bid to eliminate all global alternatives to the red Communist system.

The first era of the red menace was in the 19-teens and twenties. This was a time when progressives loyal to the Russian revolution were setting off bombs in US cities and attempting to assassinate US presidents.

The second era was spurred by the revelation that the US State Department had become ridden with Soviet spies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_espionage_in_the_United_States). this , in conjunction with overt Soviet power maneuvers in the hemisphere caused Americans to support greater vigilance from their leaders.

This interpretation views Communism as a doctrine of slavery which literally reduces a person's value to the cost of their labor. The fact that most progressives believe that it is acceptable to kill to bring this system home is why most people perceived Communism at the time to be a "red menace".

Since the late 1920s, the Soviet Union, through its GRU, OGPU and NKVD intelligence services, used Russian and foreign-born nationals as well as Communist, and people of American origin to perform espionage activities in the United States.

During the 1920s Soviet intelligence focused on military and industrial espionage in the United States, specifically in the aircraft and munitions industries, and penetrating the mainline federal government bureaucracies, such as the United States Department of State and War Department.

The Soviets knew the US had the technology and they wanted it.

By the end of 1936 at least four mid-level State Department officials were delivering information to Soviet intelligence.

During the second world war, Soviet espionage agents obtained classified reports on electronic advances in radio-beacon artillery fuses by Emerson Radio, including a complete proximity fuse (reportedly the same fuse design that was later installed on Soviet anti-aircraft missiles to shoot down Francis Gary Powers's U-2 in 1960).

The United States Treasury Department was successfully penetrated by nearly a dozen Soviet agents or information sources, including Harold Glasser and his superior, Harry Dexter White, assistant secretary of the treasury and the second most influential official in the department.

According to former GRU Colonel Stanislav Lunev, "SVR and GRU (Russia's political and military intelligence agencies, respectively) are operating against the U.S. in a much more active manner than they were during even the hottest days of the Cold War."

From the end of the 1980s, KGB and later SVR began to create "a second echelon" of "auxiliary agents in addition to our main weapons, illegals and special agents", according to former SVR officer Kouzminov.

These agents are legal immigrants, including scientists and other professionals. Another SVR officer who defected to Britain in 1996 described details about thousand Russian agents and intelligence officers, some of them "illegals" who live under deep cover abroad.

Since the advent of social media, satellite television, unrestricted internet access has assisted in indoctrination, bolstering the agendas of those who seek power, and unfettered resistance. Propaganda "blitzkrieg" efforts have been shown to work. Rand report points out the West has hardly any defences against the Russian onslaught. Only through teaching one how to read objectively, and not be swayed by "trendy" social media gossip is there a chance for folks to wake up. Look at the history since the 1920's, the Soviets showed where they are going and how they are doing it - nothing has changed except for the ease now of the psychological methods to reach sympathisers.

[AutumnW]

But if our Secret Space programs are so freakishly advanced and ET's despise nukes....evidenced by their shutting them down. Are we not safe from this dog and pony show?

To a certain degree, I think we are safe.

[ExomatrixTV]

Western Propaganda can be at times worse than Russian Propaganda and both are UNWANTED!

Any generalization of anything "Russian" is NOT doing justice to the full spectrum of the truth!

When meme's and cheap name-callings are the only way that people "communicate" humanity is doomed!