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Kano
14th February 2018, 22:56
All of the mass school shootings have been beyond ridiculous and sad for some time now. I am not posting links because there are a million to pick from and all have varying degrees of information. It's too early for real numbers. My reason for starting this thread is to try to gain insight on the "why".

What is the end goal of these mass shootings? I think we can rule gun control out because I just don't think that will ever happen. It will cause a revolution and TPTB don't want that. I am of the opinion that these are largely planned, false flag events but what is the end game here?

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of these innocent, murdered children. It's Valentine's Day and it's Ash Wednesday. So tell someone you love them. We are all we have.

Cardillac
14th February 2018, 23:20
@Kano

I don't think it's a coincidence that this occured on ash wendsday; just like the senseless fire-bombing of the defenseless city of Dresden on ash wendsday in 1945-

there are occult forces at work out there-

Larry

Olam
14th February 2018, 23:21
This once again follows ( as we usually see) some specific drills they been having at the school last week possible situations like what just happened....hear from a witness about that here in one of the tweets:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews

Kano
14th February 2018, 23:26
This once again follows ( as we usually see) some specific drills they been having at the school last week possible situations like what just happened....hear from a witness about that here in one of the tweets:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews

You are so right. There are usually "drills" that precede these type of events. Good to recognize these in advance and get your kid out of school if this happens in your area.

Wind
14th February 2018, 23:33
What is the purpose of rituals and sacrifices of blood?

There lies the answer to your question.

The other explanation, if true, might be more disturbing to us...

To know that we live in a chaotic world where evil acts are committed randomly.

ZenBaller
14th February 2018, 23:36
Just a few hours before the eclipse. These events are always planned on the right time to create the max possible impact on the collective consciousness and trigger more fear and pain. Try to stay out of it energetically.

Cardillac
14th February 2018, 23:57
@Wind

evil acts do not happen randomly- nothing happens randomly

evil acts are cold-bloodedly calculated to occur at certain times-

people must finally realize this-

Larry

KiwiElf
15th February 2018, 00:15
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

Kano
15th February 2018, 01:11
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

You know I used to be on the fence about the whole crisis actors angle. But now that I took some time to dig in, there is zero doubt they are a real thing. It is easily provable beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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Not sure if it's relevant but something I noticed while watching the Clinton News Network's coverage of the shooting was that the cop/sheriff speaking to reporters had the last name of Israel. Hmmmm...

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 01:54
This seems genuine the shooter is in custody which is unusual in these large
shootings and is a local resident , with a history at the school. The witness's
in the two fox vids below seem in genuine shock. The WP vid below seems to
be a montage of the event including what looks like a bit of phone footage
while the attack was in progress. This could be faked but it does not feel like
it but who knows ? Only the victims families and witness's ,thats where it gets
sensitive and we have to be cautious before calling it a staged event...

But keep your eyes open and see what the alt media comes up with ....

I forgot it was Valentine's day Its all so cold and convenient and sick....


Parkland high school shooting: 'Troubled' former pupil obsessed with guns
wearing gas mask kills 17 up to 50 injured in Valentine's massacre
Nikolaus Cruz...
https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article12029334.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/gunman.jpg

Florida high school shooting leaves multiple dead
Washington Post
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Published on 14 Feb 2018
Several people were killed in a shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., Feb. 14.
Authorities took one suspect into custody. Subscribe to The Washington Post on
YouTube: http://bit.ly/2qiJ4dy

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Florida shooting: At least 17 dead in high school attack
1 hour ago

least 17 people have been killed in a mass shooting at a high school in Parkland,
Florida, police say.The suspect has been named as Nikolaus Cruz, 19, and is a
former student at the school who had been expelled.Cruz, who was armed with
"multiple magazines", began the shooting spree outside the school before opening
fire inside, according to officials. It is one of the deadliest school shootings since
20 children were killed at a Connecticut school in 2012.

read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43066226

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Witness describes shots fired through classroom window
Fox News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX2Yn1Q2wf4
Published on 14 Feb 2018.
On 'Tucker Carlson Tonight,' Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student
Rebecca Bogart describes hiding in her classroom during school shooting.

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Student who witnessed shooting: I couldn't believe it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIrxTdsNz10
Published on 14 Feb 2018...Fox news.
On 'The Story,' a student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School describes
trying to contact his family while students were being targeted by a shooter.

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MIRROR

Parkland high school shooting: 'Troubled' former pupil obsessed with guns wearing
gas mask kills 17 in Valentine's massacre

Nikolas Cruz, 19, has been named by police as the suspected gunman who
launched a "catastrophic" attack on Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in
Parkland, Florida..
By Bernie Woodall,Jane Lavender,
Danya Bazaraa & Steve Robson,
02:24, 15 FEB 2018
At least 17 people are dead and up to 50 injured after a former pupil carried out a
mass school shooting on Valentine's Day in Florida

Read more...https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/bombs-hunt-school-shooting-dead-12027775

jagman
15th February 2018, 02:22
2 Timothy 3:1-4
But know this,that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.

Deborah (ahamkara)
15th February 2018, 03:48
I work in a public school.

There are many, many angry young people with access to weapons. Lots of teenage boys have spent thousands of hours playing violent shooting games. They are being programmed into violence. Social media is often a place where violent acts are recorded, shared and celebrated. As teachers, we see an ongoing escalation of students who should be classified as mentally ill, but often remain undiagnosed.

Don't automatically assume it is a planned event. I guarantee there are students capable and desensitized enough to do this on their own. There will be an escalation of violence in our public schools as the next generation of young people reach puberty. We have ongoing weapons checks for students as young as fourth grade.

Tyy1907
15th February 2018, 03:49
One angle is using technology as the "solution". Since we're just too unruly we'd use technology to prevent shootings. Augment the human with tech that could prevent any such occurrence.
Look on Netflix at many of the new Sci fi shows. Augmenting humans with tech. Just "altering carbon" is all it is now though right?

Bob
15th February 2018, 03:51
I work in a public school.

There are many, many angry young people with access to weapons. Lots of teenage boys have spent thousands of hours playing violent shooting games. They are being programmed into violence. Social media is often a place where violent acts are recorded, shared and celebrated. As teachers, we see an ongoing escalation of students who should be classified as mentally ill, but often remain undiagnosed.

Don't automatically assume it is a planned event. I guarantee there are students capable and desensitized enough to do this on their own. There will be an escalation of violence in our public schools as the next generation of young people reach puberty. We have ongoing weapons checks for students as young as fourth grade.

Would you know if there are other schools which do weapons checks? I have seen metal detectors and cops manning those in Colorado, and NY state schools before. I hadn't known of other locations doing that.. I'm assuming this shooter in Florida bypassed the front door by getting a fire alarm to be set, to open the doors so out could come in.. Sorta reminding me of the police state setup in Israel, how everything now is gonna be metal detector and manned.. (or those full body scanners at the airport) - or if you are not properly chipped and updated with an implant under your skin on the back of the hand, you don't get in past the door.. (or out)..

All MSM's have been playing this over and over, continually, nothing new same program, over and over, the incident today. What are we not hearing about now? What is being overlooked?

Michelle Marie
15th February 2018, 04:12
I taught at a few middle schools in Florida, and at a high school in Oregon more recently.

At the high school, drills were commonplace. The school property fenced in. Gates closed except one except for before and after school and at lunch time.

A full-time police officer worked at the school.

Once in a faculty meeting a teacher asked,"How will we know the difference between a drill and an actual shooting?"
The reply: "You won't. Just do what we say."

The military presence also grew. First, one was present all day one day per week. Then 2 days per week. Recruitment was heavy with mind conditioning and freebies with the military branding of camouflage.

I won't even go into the on campus prescriptions here in order to stay on topic. Although, psychotropic drugs dispensed at school could lead to this type of "troubled" behavior.

Many factors...our whole school system is troubled.

:( MM

Noelle
15th February 2018, 05:13
Some interesting connections were made in this tweet from @intheMatrixxx.

ghostrider
15th February 2018, 06:41
the love of many shall wax cold ... and the whole earth was filled with violence ... then the flood came , and only seven people survived ... I hope history doesn't repeat itself ... deranged human beings , killing and spreading suffering , and sorrow ...this has to stop ...

Mark (Star Mariner)
15th February 2018, 13:26
Teachers 'were warned' about Nikolas Cruz

Teachers were warned in advance about the teenager who allegedly carried out a mass shooting at his former school in Florida, US media are reporting.

Nikolas Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder following the deadliest shooting at a US school since 2012.

Maths teacher Jim Gard told the Miami Herald that school authorities had emailed teachers about Mr Cruz's behaviour.

"We were told last year that he wasn't allowed on campus with a backpack on him," Mr Gard told the Miami Herald.

"There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus."

Former schoolmate Joshua Charo said Mr Cruz had been found with bullets in his backpack.

"I can't say I was shocked," Mr Charo said.

Mr Cruz had been staying with a local family in recent months, following his adopted mother's death in November.

He allegedly used an AR-15 rifle in the attack, which he had bought legally and which he kept locked up in their house at their request.

more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43071710

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I must ask: how in the blue hell can a teenager 'legally' buy an AR-15 attack rifle? Sorry, and I'm not trying to trash the 2nd Amendment, but to me this just smacks of absolute insanity.

robinr1
15th February 2018, 13:41
its amazing people at this forum would post mainstream media bs after another governmental false flag.

Literally everything the mainstream media posts is lies or has an evil agenda. Why further the issue at a place where people come to get away from that?

Wind
15th February 2018, 14:00
Lots of teenage boys have spent thousands of hours playing violent shooting games. They are being programmed into violence.

I'd like to point out that this is a common misconception, scientific studies have shown that shooting games are not related to violent behaviour. Although if a person is already disturbed, their view on reality has already been altered and they might not see the difference between entertainment and the real world. I would be more worried about young people being on antidepressants, which seem to enhance their suicidal and homicidal tendencies - in some cases. If they own guns too then that is a recipe for a disaster.


I must ask: how in the blue hell can a teenager 'legally' buy an AR-15 attack rifle? Sorry, and I'm not trying to trash the 2nd Amendment, but to me this just smacks of absolute insanity.

I could ask the same thing and I am actually not anti-gun at all. Why on Earth would a teenager need to own such a powerful rifle? In Europe such a thing would be unheard of. The American gun culture sometimes seems absurd to us.

Hervé
15th February 2018, 14:02
What is the purpose of rituals and sacrifices of blood?

There lies the answer to your question.

The other explanation, if true, might be more disturbing to us...

To know that we live in a chaotic world where evil acts are committed randomly.
The apparent randomness is itself programmed... in a similar way as a computer can generate "random" passwords... that means that a well oiled machine can mimic "randomness."


From Carolyn Hamlett via More Massacres Until Gun Laws Enacted - Insider (http://www.henrymakow.com/insider-shootings-will.html):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png I speak from my experience of being born and raised in the globalist organization, taught this plan to take over America and bring America to ruin.

When I was a small child in the 1950's, I knew these types of shootings would be happening just prior to the beginning of the planned chaos.

I also know that the globalist organization has been programming multitudes of individuals at least since the early 1950's, to be triggered to perpetrate the planned chaos in America and in other locations throughout the world.

Many of these programmed people are what I call "sleepers" because they are totally unaware that they have been programmed.

The programming is dormant until the inner clock is triggered which engages the program. I believe that the movie, "Avatar" contains such triggers. I haven't seen the Batman movie, but I suspect it also contains triggers. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png[...]
To add to the apparent randomness, there are indeed actual random "copycat" psychos which compounds the confusion of the programmed chaos.

yelik
15th February 2018, 14:07
@Wind

evil acts do not happen randomly- nothing happens randomly

evil acts are cold-bloodedly calculated to occur at certain times-

people must finally realize this-

Larry

Absolutely, there is always a purpose behind deliberate human suffering

As far as I understand freemasonry and Satanic cults are all based on legends and mysticisms from the Babylonian and Sumarian era. The Cabala is a set of mystical texts that summon entities and demons; typically known as the Holy Grail.

These spiritually wicked people that reside in high places believe there is no heaven and that both good and evil people all end up in the underworld. So it matters not how much harm and suffering you cause to others. Hence the many wars funded by corrupt organisatioins like the Bank of International Settlements and their cartel of banks

Lets not forget how powerful mind control technology is where virtually anyone could be turned into a terrorist or mass shooter.

Wind
15th February 2018, 14:10
To add to the apparent randomness, there are indeed actual random "copycat" psychos which compounds the confusion of the programmed chaos.

I don't really believe in random events either, but we have to consider that not everything is always planned. In our conspiratorial mindset we always assume that they are planned though and I tend to think like that too. Can you explain to me then why these false flags with the massive news coverage almost always manage to actually increase gun sales? The US government never ever manages to restrict gun sales at all, because the NRA is so powerful in the states. They just can't do it, the 2nd amendment is too important to many Americans. Seems to me that reverse psychology is at play here. Cui bono?

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 15:00
This answers a few basic questions and his possible state of mind , the loss of
his mother , depression , lodging , legal access to weapon being a hormonal
teen does have its effects and if lonely Valentines day may of just put him
over the edge that day who knows ?

Florida school shooting suspect sent texts morning of shooting
-YTF3AwZebA

Published on 15 Feb 2018
A family in Florida took in Nikolas Cruz, the Marjory Stoneman Douglas
High School shooting suspect, after his mother died on November 1, 2017.
An attorney for the family speaks to CNN’s Alisyn Camerota.

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Edit.. Added article

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Florida shooting: FBI and teachers warned about Nikolas Cruz
13 minutes ago

photo on link below....
Nikolas Cruz was a former student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School

The FBI has confirmed that it was warned about the teenager who allegedly carried
out a mass shooting at his former school in Florida.

Nikolas Cruz, who has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder,
reportedly left a comment on a YouTube video last year stating: "I'm going to be a
professional school shooter."

A user alerted authorities to the post.

Teachers were also warned about Mr Cruz, who was not allowed on campus with a
backpack, US media report.The FBI said it had investigated the YouTube comment
but had been unable to fully identify the person who posted it.

read more....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43071710

Hervé
15th February 2018, 15:15
About the mindset behind these planned and programmed sufferings of individuals and populations (from this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis&p=514505&viewfull=1#post514505) <---):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png As I said before, Skull and Bones, the Rockefeller Family and the Illuminati in general worship death and believe that the gods they worship are pleased by it. They believe that their gods grant them favors, such as wealth, in proportion to how well they provide fear, anger, and ritual human sacrifices for them to feed off of. This is standard Aztec human sacrifice kind of magical thinking. Never mind that the Aztecs, the Druids, and Incans, that practiced such human sacrifices were ultimately unsuccessful as societies. They still appealed to the Pirates of Skull and Bones and the pseudo-mystical Illuminati. These people are not scientists. They do not have the patience for. They just want to rape and plunder populations without having to think too much about it.

Later I had a discussion with David Rockefeller over this Illuminati intended genocide of most of the planet’s population. That was shortly after Tenet resigned from the CIA but had not yet been replaced. So, McLaughlin was acting Director of CIA. And I had accompanied him to a Washington DC evening meeting at which David Rockefeller was present. After the meeting, McLaughlin and Rockefeller had a private meeting in which I was present mainly as a note taker. But since it touched on the expansion of the US BioWarfare programs, I was unable to keep my mouth firmly shut. Thus, I objected to the expansion and said so in no uncertain terms. Rockefeller accused me of subverting his plans to “purge the world of its shaff.” I said “Other people are not disposable coverings of grain”. He said, “Of course, they are. They are as unnecessary to this planet as extra bolts in a factory which is done making the equipment. There is nothing left to do with them than throw them out when one is done with their usefulness.” I bristled at that. McLaughlin tried to change the subject to defuse the situation. Rockefeller then said something that I did not expect. He said, “Don’t worry. I will have statues made of me that look like Christ so you can still have something to worship.” I was so shocked that I dropped the subject.

[...]

Later, I found that not only had David Rockefeller commissioned bronzes of people jumping out of the WTC on 911, but he had commissioned bronzes of himself which looked like religious statues to worship. Because I found photos of them inside the CIA’s David Rockefeller Audio-Visual Center, I took them down to the CIA’s photo ID dept. I asked about 10 people in that dept. who the person represented in the statue was. The statue was textured on the face making it unclear whether the figure was bearded or not. Three of them said Rockefeller, though one of those said Nelson, not David. Most said a saint and two of them said, “Jesus”. That is how well the sculptor accomplished David Rockefeller’s wish to be immortalized as a Christ like figure while planning genocide to kill off 5.5 billion people!
(from: "case 26: Your sickness and Genocide Planned in the USA" by whistleblower Sue Ann Arrigo (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/)) http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

As for the reason behind the commissioning of people jumping off these towers:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png A Robber Baron’s Delight in the Suffering of Others—1929 Stock Market Crash

Nelson Rockefeller used to brag to me that John D. Rockefeller caused the 1929 stock market collapse. It ruined his competitors, the smaller investor who were caught by surprise when it happened. He said that this forefather of his was delighted by the sight of his business rivals jumping out of Wall Street buildings to their deaths. He had told Nelson how much he enjoyed that and wanted to repeat that highlight of his life again. It was his dying request that it get repeated. This was something that Nelson told me many times, almost every time Helms sent me over to see him.

After 9-11, the Rockefellers made life-sized bronze statues of the people jumping out of the WTC as they fell to their deaths. They put them on public display in NY. The public outcry against the callous disregard of the victim’s families required them to remove them. The businessmen in the WTC towers were not the ultra wealth Robber Barons that could afford their own buildings. They were the international competitors of them. Perhaps the Rockefeller family thought the similarity of the events, both occurring near the NY Stock Exchange was sufficient to fulfill that death-bed wish of their extremely wealthy ancestor.
(From Sue Arrigo's: Case 22A: Were the US Troops Fed Poisonous Beverages on Purpose?
http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0) ) http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

Any emotionally run conflict, polarization or war actually falls under that category of an immolation to the "gods."

So, accordingly, any of these intended sacrificial offerings is used to feed/consolidate the satanic/masonic/cabala/Talmudic/Frankist eggregore/"consciousness." That's the planet's undertow feeding that wolf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Wolves). Who/what is feeding the other one?

Bob
15th February 2018, 16:30
11:20 am east coast time, 15 February, 2018 - Pres Trump makes a pre-emptive statement across MSM, all networks, interrupting all broadcasts.

highlighted points:


No parent should have to fear for the sons and daughters.

We should be an American Family and join together.

Thanks to the first responders, law enforcement, and teachers - the Fed will assist in any way it can (talking with the Florida Gov.)

There will be a Federal response to this.

Next speaking to America's children "you are never alone and never will be, you have people who care about you and love you and will do ANYTHING (and everything), to 'protect you' Answer hate with love, answer cruelty with kindness. Embrace the dignity of life.

We will secure our schools and address "mental health"

Making our schools for our children safer is our top priority

We have to MAKE that difference. Family faith community and country are our bonds which are stronger than hateful evil.

Hold our loved ones close, pray for healing and peace, become one nation.. Much better tomorrow (is there), God Bless

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 16:44
There was a fire drill earlier and there seems to be more direct contact with
survivors than other shootings....They also comment that they thought it
was another active shooter drill which may explain the calmness and shock
of some of the interviews.

Students describe moments of deadly high school shooting
OoHaPqOs46o

Published on 15 Feb 2018
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students David Hogg and Kelsey Friend
tell "GMA" about the chaos during the shooting and how they escaped alive.

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This one seems fake but kids are now conditioned to this to a degree with
drills and discussions at school so it may just be how it is today and she
explains at the end they were encouraged at the hospital to talk about the
events to avoid bottling shock up and nightmares.....Very sad..

Student Wounded In Florida School Shooting: My Friend ‘Didn’t Make It’ | TODAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F_vdCHlDds
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Samantha Grady, a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, was
wounded during the shooting rampage there Wednesday. She becomes emotional
as she tells TODAY that her friend died in the shooting. She describes hearing two
shots and huddling with other students when the shooter fired through the locked
classroom door. She says it was “an intense moment” when she reunited with her family.

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From yesterday....

Digital Update: Doctors Give Up On School Shooting Patients At Broward Health North
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtRFfPxrEW8
Published on 14 Feb 2018

Agape
15th February 2018, 17:14
I don’t know what to say because it’s so sad than ‘another one of us who couldn’t handle himself’.
He’s dead man now together with the others . In young men and ladies instinctive urges and primitive emotions are difficult to control , depression probably killed more people on this planet than all the tornadoes together and all the incident is in fact not much better than an animal turning rogue taking out number of his group members in the savannah which rarely happens but sometimes it does when that individual was previously hurt and possibly bullied or felt ( obviously) under estimated by his own group members.
Well 17 year olds should not have free access to firearms without reason . The tragedy of the reason is that if you ask them later WHY committing atrocity and if they’re allowed honest answer they’ll tell you something like ‘Because I can’.

Of course . In our old days he would perhaps glue all the chairs in class or worst, break their windows .

Now it’s aggressive movies and video games from when they’re 6 year old and guns . Human brain develops moral compass much later in life than that .

I do feel very sorry for him actually


that means all the families who lost their dear ones too


:pray:

norman
15th February 2018, 17:21
Alex Jones has just aired a local inteview with a school girl at the school who was talking to the accused WHILE THE SHOOTING WAS GOING ON !

He didn't do it !

He was, however known to be the type who might, and people at the school probably had already reported him as dangerous. [That's where I think the black tricksters stepped in and saw a chance to have another shot at disarming Americans].

Bob
15th February 2018, 17:31
Guess Alex Jones needs to tell folks to also ignore SnapChat photos and dialog from students who were there:


As friends hiding from the shooter sent photos and videos over Snapchat to 19-year-old Jillian Davis, she started to recognize the suspect as a former classmate who had a history of making dark, gun-related jokes.

Cruz, a classmate who participated in Davis’s ninth grade JROTC group, was usually a quiet kid who kept to himself, but “there was a lot of anger management issues there,” Davis said.

“Finding out it was him makes a lot of sense now,” she said.

Hervé
15th February 2018, 17:32
...

Pre-planned patsy:


SOTT Comment (https://www.sott.net/article/377407-Former-student-Nicolas-de-Jesus-Cruz-blamed-for-Florida-school-shooting-Update):

UPDATE: RT reports (https://www.rt.com/usa/418843-nikolas-cruz-shooter-youtube/):
A user with the name 'Nikolas Cruz' - the name of the shooter who killed 17 people in a Florida high school on Wednesday - posted a comment under a documentary on a 1966 mass shooting, saying he wanted to do the same.

"I am going to what he did," (sic) the now-deleted comment read. It was posted under a Discovery UK documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlPDTvjBbu0&lc=UgiYcYyEG-UjMngCoAEC) about the 1966 Texas University shooting, in which a former marine shot dead 18 and injured over 30 others from atop the main building tower at the University of Texas at Austin.


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/451448/large/5a85145ddda4c83d068b4569.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/451448/full/5a85145ddda4c83d068b4569.jpg)

The chilling comment came nine months before Wednesday's Florida school shooting, with the suspect identified as 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz. Seventeen people were killed and over a dozen injured.

Other students at the school, cited by various US media outlets, said Cruz had kept a stockpile of guns, and suggested the attack was carefully planned. Cruz reportedly triggered school fire alarms intentionally to get students and teachers to exit classrooms, maximizing the casualties.

It is not immediately clear whether the Nikolaz Cruz YouTube account, with nine subscribers and no publicly visible video uploads, belonged to the shooter, but it was suspended for "violent content" hours after the Florida shooting, apparently following the discovery of the comment. Breitbart adds (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/15/report-fbi-warned-potential-school-shooter-named-nikolas-cruz-september/):
A YouTuber named Ben Bennight emailed the FBI tip-line in September after he noticed a comment left by a "Nikolas Cruz" on one of his videos. The comment read, "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."

Bennight lives in Mississippi and says he was "immediately" contacted by the local FBI office. He met with agents the following day. "That was the last I heard from them," he told BuzzFeed.

In the wake of the arrest of 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz for the murders of 17 people in Wednesday's school shooting in Parkland, FL, Bennight was again contacted by the FBI.

According to BuzzFeed, Special Agent Ryan Furr left the following voice mail: "I think we spoke with you in the past about a complaint that you made about someone making a comment on your YouTube channel. I just wanted to follow up with you on that and ask you a question with something that's come up, if you wouldn't mind giving me a ring."

Bennight says he was again visited by the FBI agents Wednesday and asked if he knew Cruz. When he told the agents he did not, they left.

As of this writing, there is no confirmation that the Nikolas Cruz who left that YouTube comment is the same Nikolas Cruz arrested for Wednesday's shooting massacre.

Apparently, Cruz didn't do anything:
From Jim Stone:
BOOM!!!!! TOTALLY CONFIRMED: FLORIDA SHOOTING WAS A SHADOW STATE OP, AND NICHOLAS CRUZ WAS NOT INVOLVED.

After this little tidbit of info, I need not say more. Florida was done by Soros/CIA/whoever, to put a shooting on Valentines day, to embed it in the public concience like 911.

PROBLEM:
IN THE FOLLOWING NEWSCAST, A WITNESS REPORTED WALKING DOWN THE SCHOOL HALLWAY WITH NICHOLAS CRUZ, GUNSHOTS CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHILE SHE WAS WITH CRUZ, AND SHE TOLD HIM GEE, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENED IT WOULD BE YOU DOING IT.

HA HA HA HA HA, OFFICIAL STORY DESTROYED IN ONE LITTLE NEWSCAST,

Supposedly Cruz did this with an assault rifle.

Howd he hide that from her when she was walking beside him?

That kills the second shooter angle of this!!!

This was so damning I knew it would be deleted, so I am going to serve it from here and deal with whatever bandwidth issues happen.

The following video comes in as a highly compressed but perfectly usable 3gp. This will play on phones and usually on windows and always on Knoppix. Right click it to save, double click it to play.

Nicholas cruz did not do the shooting and a bumbling media blew the whole psy op clean open (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)


http://82.221.129.208/floridaschoolshooting.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)


"She said, Hey I just heard shots fired, I'm surprised it's not you. Just kidding.

And then he had this reaction like "what?"

FAT CHANCE HE COULD HAVE HID AN AR FROM HER JUST CASUALLY WALKING DOWN THE HALL!!!!

Here's a social media comment on this video

- PRICELESS:

"holy ****....! IF SHE WAS WALKING WITH HIM DOWN THE HALLWAY AFTER THE INITIAL SHOTS WERE FIRED BY HIM...THEN WOULDN'T HE HAVE THE ****ING GUN OR GUNS RIGHT ****ING THERE??????"
THIS THING IS DOA!! DEAD ON ARRIVAL!! I HOPE SHE IS SAFE AND STAYS SAFE....
DOWN LOAD AND SAVE THIS VIDEO....TRIPLE BACK UP AND LOCK YER ****IN DOOR!!

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Right click the picture to save the video, double click to play. This has been compressed down to less than a megabyte and is in 3gp format, which plays on phones, Knoppix, and usually in Windows.


http://82.221.129.208/girlshootr.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/girlshooter.3gp)

Jim's comment: The girl is ditzy at this point and did not figure out that if Cruz did the shooting, he should have had guns. So you have to look past her blindness and figure it out. =========================================

In short, either he knew he was going to do it at some point in time or someone else did and set him up nicely with the posted comments under his name and the FBI "monitoring" it.

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 17:48
If he did not do it he is the perfect patsy, any mention of meds yet ?


President Donald Trump delivers remarks on Parkland, Fla. school shooting | ABC News

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Streamed live 1 hour ago
The president addresses the nation after the shooting that killed 17
and injured 15 at Florida’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
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http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png
US & Canada

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2018/2/15/1aa72203-9abd-4f60-a744-b04c825fa1a0.jpg
Jaime Guttenberg was one of the 17 victims of Wednesday's mass shooting

read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-43066528

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The Telegraph

Nikolas Cruz: Florida school massacre suspect had 'disturbing' social media history
and 'was crazy about guns'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/02/15/Untitled_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqQz5S9RjAkRi3uX5gvf0LdEzYYh07536LSj-yFgFieaE.png?imwidth=480
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/14/nicholas-cruz-florida-shooter-had-flagged-threat-talked-using/

Hervé
15th February 2018, 17:51
...

Propaganda somewhere...

Compare this picture:



Nikolaus Cruz...
https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article12029334.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/gunman.jpg


... with the cover picture in the video of post # 24 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Another-Mass-Shooting-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018&p=1208142&viewfull=1#post1208142) above...


guns... GUNS... guns... guns... Guns EVERYWHERE!

norman
15th February 2018, 17:58
Another kid at the school has just said that he ran away to Starbucks to wait for his mum to pick him up so did not witness this but he heard talk of more gun shots at the school 30 minutes later.

[ silencing witnesses ? ]

Bob
15th February 2018, 18:01
Can you tell what year the historical photo was taken? I can't and I doubt any body else can. People's faces change when they are kids to a 19 year old adult. That is a known fact. The CNN photo reminds me of the Colorado Shooter photo, James Holms, who dyed his hair before his shooting episode. Why do they do that ? I think that is a good question to ask.

That the guy dyed his hair as shown in the CNN photo of him on the ground. (like the Colorado Theatre shooter) may be significant if there was an activated program. If there are programs being lain into kids by some nefarious group, planting a latent "act out" scenario, this guy acted out what was planted. I would believe that more-so than an apparently younger photo verses a red hair dyed later photo where he acted out.

It just seems to me, somebody is TRIGGERING these lain in programs, using probably something that they all are in contact with all the time.. Some sort of keywords, or images maybe are being triggered, and then we see the dialog in The People afterwards who clamor for more controls, more regulations and ABSOLUTELY more SURVEILLANCE. (Just like in Europe?) which country again has disarmed its citizens, and despite that still has terrorists running rampant?

On an interview on Fox one of the talking heads just suggested that.

Bob
15th February 2018, 18:04
Another kid at the school has just said that he ran away to Starbucks to wait for his mum to pick him up so did not witness this but he heard talk of more gun shots at the school 30 minutes later.

[ silencing witnesses ? ]

good observation there..

I watched one of the students video's live during the shooting. When the SWAT team moved in, it is heard clearly by one of the swat speaking to the students (recorded on their phone), many many many who had their phones running RECORDING the event in real time, TURN OFF YOUR PHONES put them away - absolutely suppressing recording what was happening live.

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 18:10
That the guy dyed his hair as shown in the CNN photo of him on the
ground. (like the Colorado Theatre shooter) may be significant if there was an
activated program

That certainly went though my mind. I have been concentrating on that it is a
real event not like Sandy Hook is speculated to be and it seems very real to me.

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Lionel did an observational piece earlier he is a native Floridian and just came
back from a visit.....

#FloridaShooting #DeepStateMedia Lies: Ignoring
Insanity, Shielding #BigPharma, Glorifying Killers

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100794-Lionel-Interviews-Famed-Ufologist-Stanton-Friedman-UFOs-Flying-Saucers-and-EBEs-Are-Real-30-11-17&p=1208163&viewfull=1#post1208163

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Florida Sheriff Scott Israel Pleads For ‘Power’ To Detain People For Social Media Threats | NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIyHkKHFffM
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Following the horrific school shooting at a Parkland, Florida, high school, Sheriff
Scott Israel discusses mental health issues, making threats on social media and
why this country needs more law enforcement.

====================================================


Nicholas cruz did not do the shooting and a bumbling media blew the
whole psy op clean open


FL SCHOOL SHOOTING! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

WBI7APc4HoU

Published on 15 Feb 2018

pyrangello
15th February 2018, 18:17
When I was a kid here in America 70's we had 5 channels on the TV and it was free, The most violence you ever saw was maybe the 3 stooges beating up on one another and the brady bunch. Much of the adult violence had to do with scary movies and any that involved shootings, all you ever saw was someone laying on the ground. Fast forward to today and look at all the media movies, videos, blood guts, gore, sex, violence, on 24/7 not to mention the xbox games where your shooting people constantly. I had an Xbox 10 years ago, use to play a game flying a jet bombing and shooting everything, I noticed sometimes I would play until 3 am and have such an anxiety level going when I stopped it was hard to sleep. What an absolute waste of time that was. And then there is the other social media factor of the disconnect from personal interaction basically detaching emotions from the daily real world. This is a tough world we live in, here in the states you cannot be committed unless you have committed a crime first thus liberty and freedom and individual rights in this society come with a cost.

As for false flags, yep some have happened, I don't believe one bit sandyhook was real, however this looks very real as many in the past. Perhaps instead of changing the gun and clip laws why not make it a mandatory 21 years of age before you can purchase a gun here in the united states unless you are trained and have a job in a legal security or law position. Coming around the age of 21 you at least are starting to figure out life and have somewhat of a direction .And you should have been out of high school for 3 years by then so having anything to do with the school should be gone . I really felt bad for all who died yesterday and were wounded, its not the guns that are killing the people or the lead in the bullets, if it was the lead, we would be outlawing all pencils too. Looking at all the shooters at these schools, social media, movies ect, bumping the age limit up just like the drinking age here in Michigan at 21 to me would be an easy agenda to pass thru congress.

Bob
15th February 2018, 18:20
That the guy dyed his hair as shown in the CNN photo of him on the ground.
(like the Colorado Theatre shooter) may be significant if there was an activated program

That certainly went though my mind. I have been concentrating on that it is a real event
not like Sandy Hook is speculated to be and it seems very real to me.

This caught my attention too - the commonality - the Colorado theatre shooter, James Holms, pictures are shown how the "younger" changes into the older, and how the hair is dyed.. Holms went for the crazy orange 'look'. There is a commonality in history, something turns them..


https://media.giphy.com/media/HU5utq8J9HaCc/giphy.gif

Another student ON-SITE at the school during the shooting said this:

"Daniel Huerfano, a student who fled Wednesday’s attack, said he recognised Cruz from an Instagram photo in which he posed with a gun in front of his face. “He was that weird kid that you see ... like a loner”, he added. "

So the students are all in on the Conspiracy? The ones who saw the guy there as the shooter, not just some idle chatter walking around inside when all the other kids are running outside for the "alleged fire", That sounds incredulous to me. Something stinks.

-- update--

Gee how odd, in Court appearance just a few minutes ago, the RED hair is now GONE ! Wonder what THAT is all about?

petra
15th February 2018, 18:30
Seems to me in these type of stories, quite often the shooter ends up shooting themselves too...

I think they must feel justified. I'd be interested to know why that is, even if the reason is insane. Too bad they off themselves before we can interrogate them.

I'd be willing to bet on something in their head "told them to"

Tam
15th February 2018, 18:47
Lots of teenage boys have spent thousands of hours playing violent shooting games. They are being programmed into violence.

I'd like to point out that this is a common misconception, scientific studies have shown that shooting games are not related to violent behaviour. Although if a person is already disturbed, their view on reality has already been altered and they might not see the difference between entertainment and the real world. I would be more worried about young people being on antidepressants, which seem to enhance their suicidal and homicidal tendencies - in some cases. If they own guns too then that is a recipe for a disaster.



I'd like to second this as well.

I'm biased, as I'm an avid gamer, but time and time again, studies have shown that violent video games do NOT lead to increased violent behavior.

Another thing people don't realize as well, is that a lot of violent games are self-aware. Grand Theft Auto, for instance, a game that is a favorite among critics due to its outrageous nature, is deliberately so. It's a satire of society, of pop culture, and of other shooting games.

While I'm a pacifist and abhor violence, and find shooters rather boring to play, for the most part, I've played my fair share of violent games, and actually, I have found them to be a sort of release, to get rid of pent up anger inside of me, de-stress. I know a lot of gamers, and we all share the same understanding: it's just a video game, we're killing virtual monsters and mafiosos, and even in games like GTA where you can murder civilians, we know it's just a make-up world, and that we would never, ever harm anyone in real life.

Most gamers I know are some of the nicest people you'd ever met, who would cry if they saw a dead dog on the road. I know I have before :)

All that being said, however, mentally unstable adolescents, of which there are more of (I think medication and the poison in our food, as well as the total erosion of family in modern America, have a lot to do with it) than ever before it seems, are volatile enough to be triggered by all kinds of things, especially nowadays, where they can find like-minded people on forums like this one and normalize their thought processes.

As for the gun thing, let me chime in, as a Euro-American. I was born and raised in France, but have lived in America the vast majority of my 22 years.

I currently live in Texas, which, as I'm sure most of us know, is the mecca of gun ownership. The majority of people I know have at least a pistol, myself among them. I got it from a friend last week, after a shooting at our apartment complex scared me enough, as I'm alone most of the time, and the housing in most of America is pathetically low-quality (I was able to put a thumbtack into a wall stud the other day to hang up a poster). When we can feel the neighbors using the food disposal 4 rooms/walls down, or hear conversations crystal-clear if you put your ear to the hollow drywall, I don't trust the front door not to be kicked down with minimal effort, or a stray bullet to pierce through 2 apartments, into mine.

So I got a gun. A small, simple pistol, so that if push comes to shove, I at least have something to protect me.

Now, here are where my problems lie.

1) It is WAY too easy to get a gun, especially here in Texas. Like I said, I literally just got it from a buddy, who gave me one of his extras, and I needed no license to own or operate it, however, the gun is still technically registered under his name.

I could, if I wanted to, go to a gun store (hell, Walmart), and buy a gun, with ammo, right now, no questions asked, no background checks or anything like that. I could buy it with as much ease I could paint.

That is very, very wrong, in my opinion, because if I'm a mentally unstable, violent person, who had a bad day, then guess what, I just got a gun.

2) Trump has made it even easier to buy guns here, by dissolving restrictions that prevented the mentally ill as well as the retarded/deficient from buying guns

You read that right. Trump gave the green light to sell firearms to people like Nikolas Cruz, or people with an IQ of 75. If that isn't insanity (not to mention hypocrisy, given his latest tweet), then I don't know what is.

3) You can easily acquire military-grade weaponry

I mean, enough said. I get that there are Doomsday preppers and whatnot, but those people seem to be the minority, and I've seen way too many mouth-breathing crazy kids post pictures of their damn arsenals on facebook

4) Some states, like Texas, have legalized open-carry on college campuses

I mean, this is also crazy, to me at least. I get the idea that it can serve as a deterrent (if a shooter barges in, he gets shot), but I have yet to see too many people bringing in guns to the community college I attend, so if a shooter does show up, as far as I'm aware, we're doomed. That doesn't even take into account how hard it is to actually shoot a person if you're untrained, and how people tend to panic/flee in a crisis, etc.

So, while I think we should be allowed to arm ourselves, I think America as a nation is too sick to have that privilege to the degree that it does.

The numbers speak for themselves. When's the last time you've heard of a non-terrorist mass shooting outside America?

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 18:58
From post 37 previous page part 1...

FL SCHOOL SHOOTING! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBI7APc4HoU
Published on 15 Feb 2018


===================================================

Part 2....Confusion was achieved and it does sound 'dodgy' even though the
shooting and casualties were real things are not adding up. Multiple shooters ?
Alex made a good point in the first vid how these events work.

LIVE EYEWITNESS INTERVIEW, FL SCHOOL SHOOTING! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

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Published on 15 Feb 2018

Bob
15th February 2018, 19:08
The current NEWS suggestion is, if anyone makes a THREAT on social media, that they need to be brought in and then given a PSYCH EXAM to evaluate if they are a credible threat to society. The push is to "arrest on sight" those who do that. Hmm.. Police state suggestion? IS that where things like this prime the general masses to allow such things? I wonder.. They keep saying 'they are looking out for the greater good' ugh..

ref: live interviews fox business channel..

==update==

according to the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, investigators were able to identify Cruz from school security videos and found him in a nearby neighborhood in Coral Springs, Florida, according to police. Someone post those videos?

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 19:14
The current NEWS suggestion is, if anyone makes a THREAT on social media,

The sheriff was making that point also from post 37. Earlier in aQ'anon
post Dr.Corsi and team were speculating 'Q' was saying something was
happening in the gulf and this could have been a distraction as these
events always are. TPTB always hide events in plain site and like the
magicians they are they distract the audience so something else could
be brewing ?


Florida Sheriff Scott Israel Pleads For ‘Power’ To Detain People For Social Media Threats | NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIyHkKHFffM
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Following the horrific school shooting at a Parkland, Florida, high school, Sheriff
Scott Israel discusses mental health issues, making threats on social media and
why this country needs more law enforcement.

Wind
15th February 2018, 19:29
I'd like to second this as well.

I'm biased, as I'm an avid gamer, but time and time again, studies have shown that violent video games do NOT lead to increased violent behavior.

Another thing people don't realize as well, is that a lot of violent games are self-aware. Grand Theft Auto, for instance, a game that is a favorite among critics due to its outrageous nature, is deliberately so. It's a satire of society, of pop culture, and of other shooting games.

While I'm a pacifist and abhor violence, and find shooters rather boring to play, for the most part, I've played my fair share of violent games, and actually, I have found them to be a sort of release, to get rid of pent up anger inside of me, de-stress. I know a lot of gamers, and we all share the same understanding: it's just a video game, we're killing virtual monsters and mafiosos, and even in games like GTA where you can murder civilians, we know it's just a make-up world, and that we would never, ever harm anyone in real life.

Most gamers I know are some of the nicest people you'd ever met, who would cry if they saw a dead dog on the road. I know I have before :)

Exactly. I'm too probably the most non-violent person you would meet and I absolutely despise violence in real life, in fact often I've been the one who has been more disgusted and saddened about seeing it. Especially seeing the abusive treatment of animals whereas it doesn't seem to bother others as much. In entertainment it never affected me, because it's just virtual.

I suppose that's a generational thing. Elder generations view videogames the same way like their parents view movies or their parents before it saw the rock music as satanic. Of course a lot of that had to to do with religion, but still. Also not to say that Hollywood and music industry wouldn't be infested with satanism, because they are. In fact James Holmes was part of one of those Hollywood-movie linked satanistic rituals. It's quite disturbing to understand as you untangle those kind of conspiracies and most people choose not to look there, because it can be too much to handle.

What is truly sad about this that this massacre won't certainly be the last one, far from it. That is the price to be paid for these gun laws.

Humans are a violent species. Some have succumbed to the their dark side (which we all have) and in the process corrupted their soul, they will want to take out as many people as possible. Some men see no meaning in the world, they just want to watch it burn for hate is all they feel. Some organizations operate from chaos too.

-8IwBY8-_vE

norman
15th February 2018, 19:48
I've just heard Matt Braken trying to squeeze this into a profile the evidence doesn't fit. He expresses a little surprise that the guy didn't die at the site.

But instead of concocting an elaborate reason why, how about going with the simplest possible read of the evidence ?

The guy was leaving the scene because he was one of the crowd of kids leaving the scene. There's no need to make up an elaborate story about him being double crossed by his 'handlers'. If he didn't do it, why wouldn't he be making his way out and away from the school ?

Even if the boss of a training outfit claims he was there training with them ( easily arranged by the spooks ), that doesn't mean a word of it is true.

From what I've heard so far, there is little mystery here. The guy didn't do it, and as a person who has, myself, been violently arrested and dragged off to be put in an orange one piece, no amount of dramatic shots of him being taken down as a monster will convince me he did. I'll need a lot more than that to convince me.

Roger Stone is now pumping the 'nutter who planned it all' theme now. Jeeze, this doesn't seem to even need MSM support go waltzing off into fantasy land.

Unless someone can prove to me that girl who spoke to him while the shooting was going on in a different part of the building is a plant to twist the story and confuse ( I think highly unlikely ) I really don't think he was a part of it at all, until the cops dropped him on the grass and wrapped him up as the patsy, that is.

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 20:07
Well he is still alive for now and staying silent , held no bond..
Short and distinct.....


Florida school shooting suspect appears in court

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Published on 15 Feb 2018
Nikolas Cruz, the suspect in the school shooting in Florida, is
being held without bond following his first court appearance.

==============================================

This seems odd as well he escaped the scene then just gave himself up
when challenged.

Officer: Suspect Looked Like a Typical Student

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Q8OtfD9LI
Published on 15 Feb 2018
The police officer who arrested the high school shooting suspect in Florida says the
teen looked like a "typical high school student" when he spotted him walking away
from the school. (Feb. 15)

====================================================


More details from this longer segment the suspect is on suicide watch
which is convenient if they do want to get rid of him pre trial , depending
how things go. He lost his father when he was young, his mother recently
to the flu it is believed , he has a mental illness history and could possibly
be autistic ?

Florida school shooting: Broward county officials give update | ABC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQHkRulX1k...

Streamed live 1 hour ago
Broward Sheriff's department holds news conference on the high school
shooting that killed 17 and injured 15.

pyrangello
15th February 2018, 20:11
Grandmother turns in teen after finding mass shooting plot one day before Florida massacre.
A woman prevented a potential tragedy this week when she reported her 18-year-old grandson to police after learning of his plot to carry out a mass shooting at his high school.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/grandmother-turns-teen-finding-mass-152359140.html

Bump the law to 21 before a gun, this will eliminate an entire group of kids to boys to men.

Cidersomerset
15th February 2018, 20:49
Roger lives in the area and says his son is a Broward County deputy sheriff and he
was on the scene yesterday and told him he could not talk about it except to say "
Dad it was horrific".He also has a daughter in the Broward hospital who treated
some of the injured..

When Cruz was captured was he waiting for a handler to extract him ? and
other oddities discussed....


ROGER STONE: TERRIBLE, ARM TEACHERS? FALSE FLAG? - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

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Published on 15 Feb 2018

===================================================

Last Friday This Terrorism Expert Predicted The Florida Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-gUOAN2CFQ
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Alex Jones presents a video clip of Matt Bracken from Infowars Live's broadcast
from last Friday where the terrorism expert predicted some sort of domestic terror
attack in the coming weeks.

====================================================

Totally off topic but the headline stood out looking through the news
sites ....Contradictions everywhere.

SAVE THE CHILDREN REPORT: More than 350 million children living in conflict areas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6UQP-CdNow
Published on 15 Feb 2018..France24

Bob
15th February 2018, 21:05
What's with the contradictions showing up about Cruz's JROTC commendations - "Cruz appeared to have been involved in the high school’s Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (JROTC) program, as his name was listed under several awards in 2016, including academic achievement for maintaining an A grade in JROTC and B in remaining academic subjects, consistently presenting an outstanding appearance and outstanding conduct throughout school." Like what is up with that? http://fox2now.com/2018/02/15/florida-suspects-digital-profile-very-very-disturbing/

Before the hearing today, an official with the public defender’s office described Cruz as a “deeply troubled child who has endured a lot of emotional trauma in a short period of time.”

Here the "school" that "Cruz" shot up, expelled him for behavioral issues:

Florida School Shooter Had Been Expelled, Was Considered a Threat to Students

"According to the Associated Press, Cruz was expelled from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School for unspecified "disciplinary reasons." Math teacher Jim Gard told the Miami Herald that, after Cruz's expulsion, the school's administration was "told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him. There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus.”

ROTC says exceptional and has great academic skills. (Sounds a bit like some of the initial background of Colorado Shooter, James Holmes)..

School says "OUT" and never come back. Students say:

Current students at the high school recall being concerned about Cruz. Dakota Mutchler, a 17-year-old student, told the Guardian he "kind of cut off from him” last year because he'd been “progressively getting a little more weird." He also said Cruz's now-removed social media accounts were filled with posts about killing animals and weaponry.

Victoria Olvera, also 17, told the AP Cruz's expulsion had to do with a fight he'd had with his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend.

At some point we could expect to see "GRIEF COUNSELORS" talking to the students and teachers, instructing them how to feel grief, what to believe to cope.
(Note: its there already: http://wlrn.org/post/resources-available-grief-counseling-those-affected-shooting)

norman
15th February 2018, 21:32
What's with the contradictions showing up about Cruz's JROTC commendations - "Cruz appeared to have been involved in the high school’s Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (JROTC) program, as his name was listed under several awards in 2016, including academic achievement for maintaining an A grade in JROTC and B in remaining academic subjects, consistently presenting an outstanding appearance and outstanding conduct throughout school." Like what is up with that? http://fox2now.com/2018/02/15/florida-suspects-digital-profile-very-very-disturbing/

Before the hearing today, an official with the public defender’s office described Cruz as a “deeply troubled child who has endured a lot of emotional trauma in a short period of time.”

Here the "school" that "Cruz" shot up, expelled him for behavioral issues:

Florida School Shooter Had Been Expelled, Was Considered a Threat to Students

"According to the Associated Press, Cruz was expelled from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School for unspecified "disciplinary reasons." Math teacher Jim Gard told the Miami Herald that, after Cruz's expulsion, the school's administration was "told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him. There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus.”

ROTC says exceptional and has great academic skills. (Sounds a bit like some of the initial background of Colorado Shooter, James Holmes)..

School says "OUT" and never come back. Students say:

Current students at the high school recall being concerned about Cruz. Dakota Mutchler, a 17-year-old student, told the Guardian he "kind of cut off from him” last year because he'd been “progressively getting a little more weird." He also said Cruz's now-removed social media accounts were filled with posts about killing animals and weaponry.

Victoria Olvera, also 17, told the AP Cruz's expulsion had to do with a fight he'd had with his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend.

At some point we could expect to see "GRIEF COUNSELORS" talking to the students and teachers, instructing them how to feel grief, what to believe to cope.
(Note: its there already: http://wlrn.org/post/resources-available-grief-counseling-those-affected-shooting)

Yes, I don't doubt any of that at all, and that's exactly what drew the bad guys to him, to set up an op. His profile was perfect, and when the reports of him and the worries people had about him rose up through the grapevine to the people who invent these stunts, he was doomed. They didn't need any contribution from him at all, just his patsy profile to pin it on.

Valerie Villars
15th February 2018, 23:31
Lots of teenage boys have spent thousands of hours playing violent shooting games. They are being programmed into violence.

I'd like to point out that this is a common misconception, scientific studies have shown that shooting games are not related to violent behaviour. Although if a person is already disturbed, their view on reality has already been altered and they might not see the difference between entertainment and the real world. I would be more worried about young people being on antidepressants, which seem to enhance their suicidal and homicidal tendencies - in some cases. If they own guns too then that is a recipe for a disaster.


I must ask: how in the blue hell can a teenager 'legally' buy an AR-15 attack rifle? Sorry, and I'm not trying to trash the 2nd Amendment, but to me this just smacks of absolute insanity.

I could ask the same thing and I am actually not anti-gun at all. Why on Earth would a teenager need to own such a powerful rifle? In Europe such a thing would be unheard of. The American gun culture sometimes seems absurd to us.


I agree, except that the types of games and movies watched is a harbinger of what a "humans" interest is. If you watch porn a lot, then you are addicted to it, etc. It is all attempts to sway the attention of those most susceptible and there you are.

Michelle Marie
16th February 2018, 01:36
False Flag actors -- names, roles, connections

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Broward County known for corruption.
Timothy Holmseth has done extensive research--child trafficking
Names names & questions narratives based on eye witnesses.

MM :hat:

Cidersomerset
16th February 2018, 02:53
ROGER STONE, OWEN, JALEN MARTIN, SHOOTING EYEWITNESS -
ALEX JONES INFOWARS

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Published on 15 Feb 2018

Mandala
16th February 2018, 02:56
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there. They were my students. This is for real. These kids died. I can verify it.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter.

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I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter. I know the kids. Many were my kids.

norman
16th February 2018, 03:16
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there. They were my students. This is for real. These kids died. I can verify it.

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter. I know the kids. Many were my kids.


I don't doubt many people were slaughtered. What I doubt is that Cruz did it. From what I've seen so far, I think his troubled profile ( reported up stream ) attracted the attention the professionals who came in and did it under the cover of his perfect patsy profile. By professionals I mean the dodgy crooked squads who are working for deep state trying to dissarm America.

Deborah (ahamkara)
16th February 2018, 03:31
Adults playing violent video games are not comparable to a 7 year old playing 5 hours or more a day during formative stages of development.


"An op-ed article appeared recently in the The New York Times discussing the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down California’s law barring the sale or rental of violent video games to people under 18. The author, Dr. Cheryl Olson, describes how the proposed law was based on the erroneous assumption that such games influence violent behavior in real life.

Dr. Olson suggests that the deliberately outrageous nature of violent games, though disturbing, makes them easily discernible from real life and suggests that the interactivity could potentially make such games less harmful.

She raises the question of how these two behaviors can be linked if youth violence has declined over the last several years while violent video game playing has increased significantly during the same period.

This analysis ignores the fact that such variation may be explained by factors other than the link between the two. A spurious variable–a third variable that explains the relationship between two other variables—may explain the negative correlation of video game playing and violent behavior. As one example, socioeconomic status may explain both a decline in violent behavior and an increase in video game playing. More affluent youth have the means and time to buy and play video games, which keeps them safely inside while avoiding potentially violent interactions on the street. Dr. Olsen also cites several studies that have failed to show a connection between violent video game playing and violent behavior among youth.

This conclusion, however, may not be as clear cut as it appears.

Youth violence remains a significant public health issue
The decline of youth violence notwithstanding, it remains a significant public health issue that requires attention.Youth homicide remains the number one cause of death for African-American youth between 14 and 24 years old, and the number two cause for all children in this age group. Furthermore, the proportion of youth admitting to having committed various violent acts within the previous 12 months has remained steady or even increased somewhat in recent years (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/108/5/1222.full.pdf+html). Although the Columbine tragedy and others like it make the headlines, youth are killed everyday by the hands of another. A more critical analysis of the link between video game playing and violence is necessary for fully understanding a complex problem like youth violent behavior that has many causes and correlates.

Studies support a link between violent video games and aggressive behavior
Researchers have reported experimental evidence linking violent video games to more aggressive behavior, particularly as it relates to children who are at more sensitive stages in their socialization. These effects have been found to be particularly profound in the case of child-initiated virtual violence.

In their book, Violent Video Game Effects on Children and Adolescents, Anderson, Gentile, and Buckley provide an in depth analysis of three recent studies they conducted comparing the effects of interactive (video games) versus passive (television and movies) media violence on aggression and violence.
In one study, 161 9- to 12-year olds and 354 college students were randomly assigned to play either a violent or nonviolent video game. The participants subsequently played another computer game in which they set punishment levels to be delivered to another person participating in the study (they were not actually administered). Information was also gathered on each participant’s recent history of violent behavior; habitual video game, television, and move habits, and several other control variables. The authors reported three main findings: 1) participants who played one of violent video games would choose to punish their opponents with significantly more high-noise blasts than those who played the nonviolent games; 2) habitual exposure to violent media was associated with higher levels of recent violent behavior; and 3) interactive forms of media violence were more strongly related to violent behavior than exposure to non-interactive media violence.
The second study was a cross-sectional correlational study of media habits, aggression-related individual difference variables, and aggressive behaviors of an adolescent population. High school students (N=189) completed surveys about their violent TV, movie, and video game exposure, attitudes towards violence, and perceived norms about violent behavior and personality traits. After statistically controlling for sex, total screen time and aggressive beliefs and attitudes, the authors found that playing violent video games predicted heightened physically aggressive behavior and violent behavior in the real world in a long-term context.
In a third study, Anderson et al. conducted a longitudinal study of elementary school students to examine if violent video game exposure resulted in increases in aggressive behavior over time. Surveys were given to 430 third, fourth, and fifth graders, their peers, and their teachers at two times during a school year. The survey assessed both media habits and their attitudes about violence. Results indicated that children who played more violent video games early in a school year changed to see the world in a more aggressive way and also changed to become more verbally and physically aggressive later in the school year. Changes in attitude were noticed by both peers and teachers.
Bushman and Huesmann, in a 2006 Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine article, examined effect size estimates using meta-analysis to look at the short- and long-term effects of violent media on aggression in children and adults. They reported a positive relationship between exposure to media violence and subsequent aggressive behavior, aggressive ideas, arousal, and anger across the studies they examined. Consistent with the theory that long-term effects require the learning of beliefs and that young minds can easier encode new scripts via observational learning, they found that the long-term effects were greater for children.
In a more recent review, Anderson et al. (2010) also analyzed 136 studies representing 130,296 participants from several countries. These included experimental laboratory work, cross-sectional surveys and longitudinal studies. Overall, they found consistent associations between playing violent video games and many measures of aggression, including self, teacher and parent reports of aggressive behavior. Although the correlations were not high (r=0.17-0.20), they are typical for psychological studies in general and comparable with other risk factors for youth violence suggested in the 2001 Surgeon General’s Report on youth violence." By: Roanna Cooper, MA and Marc Zimmerman, PhD, MI-YVPC Director

T Smith
16th February 2018, 03:41
its amazing people at this forum would post mainstream media bs after another governmental false flag.

Literally everything the mainstream media posts is lies or has an evil agenda. Why further the issue at a place where people come to get away from that?

I'm not one to defend the mainstream media... but what your suggesting is simply not true. From the 48 Laws of Power, LAW # 12, Use Selective Honesty and Generosity to Disarm your Victim...

Put another way, if a giant rock falls from the sky and hits the earth, all the more fortunate for the propaganda juggernaut that nine times out of ten peddles BS and agenda, aka the MSM. By all means report on it, and report on it as objectively as possible and without bias.

I'm not saying this wasn't a staged event, but I wouldn't automatically jump to that conclusion just because the mainstream media is reporting on it.

A broken clock is right two times a day, too. Just because mainstream is capitalizing on some dirty laundry for ratings, and to exercise law #12 above, doesn't mean this was a false flag and didn't happen randomly or with the sponsorship of DARPA or MK ULTRA or some other dark and nefarious influence. This could just be a messed up pubescent who happened to be pretty mad at the world.

That said, I would bet the farm the kid was on psychotropics and overly vaccinated.

KiwiElf
16th February 2018, 04:15
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there. They were my students. This is for real. These kids died. I can verify it.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter. I know the kids. Many were my kids.

I am referring to the "crisis actors" who are interviewed on the MSM after the fact. (This includes real students/persons who make up, embellish or lie their stories to get their "5 minutes of fame on TV" - OR to push a narrative - usually the fakestream media's/Deepstate narrative = "Gun Control" ... and undoubtedly blaming Trump in the process).

Also a huge difference between a False Flag Op (hidden motives) and an outright Hoax. No one - me included - implied in any size shape or form that it was not real.

There is sufficient evidence emerging that this kid (the shooter) was used by "nefarious persons" to do the shooting as he was already predisposed to it, for whatever reason.

Having said that, I'm sorry for your loss, families, friends and victims and the terrible situation you found yourselves in. :bearhug:

Dennis Leahy
16th February 2018, 04:56
Start looking for the crisis actors... :sherlock:

Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there. They were my students. This is for real. These kids died. I can verify it.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter. I know the kids. Many were my kids.
So sorry to hear that you are so directly connected to those kids, Mandala. I don't think any of us "on the outside" can really imagine the emotional impact.

ZoSo925
16th February 2018, 08:38
Everything about this is disturbing. I am very upset and angry the media is reporting about this schmuck Steven Mnuchin.

His job role is United States Secretary of the Treasury. What in the bleeding hell does this have to do with guns or Steven's opinion on guns ?

As far as I am concerned Alexander Hamilton was the "First" United States Secretary of the Treasury and Alexander used a gun and even accepted a duel against Aaron Burr. I honestly want to contact Steven and see if it's ok to arrange a legal dual and want to challenge him in one !!

Cidersomerset
16th February 2018, 11:29
Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there.
They were my students. This is for real. These kids died.
I can verify it.

Thanks Mandela and sorry for the loss of all those people I noticed the shock in the
voice of the kids and is why I was concentrating on if this was a real event from
the start and everything in my gut said it was from the shock in the students eyes ,
the media reaction and more.

That's not to say it could not have been engineered or is being manipulated after
the event as the saying goes never let a good crisis/opportunity go towaste. Roger
Stone who lives near by has a son and daughter directly involved with the
aftermath being in the emergency services and so knows the shooting and
casualties definitely happened.

Some witness's have come forward suggesting 2nd shooter etc but confirmed the
incident was real and they knew the victims. Unfortunately this is still part
of the usual fog and chatter after these events as every time this happens it raises
more questions than answers .It has also changed the focus of the news cycles
for the next few days.

From post 49 of this thread....

Roger lives in the area and says his son is a Broward County deputy sheriff
and he was on the scene yesterday and told him he could not talk about it except
to say " Dad it was horrific".He also has a daughter in the Broward hospital who
treated some of the injured..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIzlLP1vtPU


I am one of Avalon's own. I'm telling the truth. I knew the shooter. I know
the kids. Many were my kids.

Again very sorry for your loss and having to live through this traumatic event and
thanks for sharing it is very important to keep balance in these matters.


==================================================

Steyn: Defining act of school shootings: absence of meaning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhccwyAmu78
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Author and radio host Mark Steyn on the implications of the Parkland, Fla.
shooting. #Tucker

Cidersomerset
16th February 2018, 13:12
One valid question is why didn't the FBI respond more effectively when Cruz
was reported to them. It could be incompetence ? overworked ? or is it part
of the anti Trump culture , knowing another shooting would be negative to
his administration and the NRA ? or something else ?

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Florida school shooting: Nikolas Cruz confesses to police

32 minutes ago

The teenager accused of killing 17 people at a Florida high
school on Wednesday has confessed to the shooting, police say.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, said he arrived on campus and began shooting
students before abandoning his weapon and escaping, according
to a court document.He has appeared in court charged with 17
counts of premeditated murder.The FBI has admitted it received
a tip-off about him last year.

The attack, at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland,
Florida, is the deadliest US school shooting since 2012.

read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43081361

====================================================

The left media is screaming gun control as usual and want to link it to Trump and
NRA if they can or in this report white national groups.

Media rush to link school shooter to white nationalist group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ng8LaaXYS8
Published on 15 Feb 2018
Police say there are no known ties between the Parkland, Florida gunman Nikolas
Cruz and white supremacist organization; Raymond Arroyo provides insight on 'The
Ingraham Angle

====================================================

Hannity: How to address the school security problem

ud-qS5d_mQQ
Published on 15 Feb 2018
All of the red flags were there with this monster Nikolas Cruz, but tragically
he still was able to commit mass murder.

TargeT
16th February 2018, 13:25
One valid question is why didn't the FBI respond more effectively when Cruz
was reported to them. It could be incompetence ? overworked ? or is it part
of the anti Trump culture , knowing another shooting would be negative to
his administration and the NRA ? or something else ?




Behold A Pale Horse (William Cooper, 1990)
https://i.redd.it/wcb77bn8uhg01.jpg

Looks like this script is still playing, eh?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWHoJLHX4AAGNf3.jpg



BTW... "there were three shooters" "there was a drill"

kinda important testimony, eh?
MoNM6ovPgeM

Agape
16th February 2018, 13:29
I fear where’s this world heading to really and what are the solutions .

Mentioned the situation on my Bodhgaya thread recently about what is happening in India and other parts of world due to the mass weaponisation and global threats .
This world is still being run by stubborn , power obsessed people most of whom lack education and interest in humane sciences . They’re ‘politicians’ , ‘lineage patriarchs’ and ‘businessmen’ who then dare to debate ‘mental health issues’ and ‘healthcare’ in general which is totally unacceptable for someone without appropriate degree .
These people should not be allowed to be country leaders anymore.

Realise that today’s world is infested with health issues , physical and mental . Tell me of any family or friend who did not experience impact of those personally .

Any ethically , humane minded professional who are not payed just to perform slave labour for some institution or pharmaceutical company will tell you that those need to be looked after, councilled and helped , not just ignored , locked into prisons or ..shot.

What is the ‘politicians’ response to this global human suffering, unhealthy ness and poverty?

More cynicism , more ‘security’, installing webcams in classrooms , X-ray machines at every door, making everyone feeling dirty just for getting through .
More guns and controls .

Violence produces more violence . So called ‘aggressive security’ only provokes more aggression.

Why should people hold guns in today’s world and society ? Whom do you want to defend yourself from unless you really live in wilderness far from human civilisation ?
No weapon serves by its intent anything else than killing. There’s no excuse for letting people amass weapons since they can’t serve anything else at the end than killing other people.
No matter what reason you choose to reinvent here .They can’t be used for cooking or gardening or as any other tool . They only exist to kill other people.

Now every country have big professional army , they may be some exceptions but talking of most countries in both developed and not so developed world .

The same is true for conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere. Countries like Afghanistan , Syria , Israel and China together with North Korea, they all have been supplied weapons for decades by their allies from East and West.
Even Africa is still full of obsolete but functional rifles from everywhere .

That’s how the war never stops.


Mental issues will take much longer to resolve but imagine this. If the young man does not have a tool to kill fastly and efficiently and he attacks in his helpless outburst of violence the same people with stick ,
they have a chance to defend themselves and stop him.

There’s no easy or fast way how to tackle underlying depression and nihilism and moral degradation of today’s society , those take generations to address and solve . And they require humanitarian solutions , lots of patience and loving kindness instead of humiliation , further degradation of moral values and ‘hard core businessmen ‘ who are dancing on the top of everyone’s heads .

But if you want to keep all of us safer , reduce the global threat , the inhumane treatments at borders and entrances and stop teaching children how killing is some kind of fun.
Stop desensitising them with showing violence as funny or beautiful . Let us to what we need to experience , whether it’s joy or sorrow and stop creating artificial happiness by drugs and forced positivism .

Stop creating artificial happiness in your beauty pageants and shows for the rich .

Ask for advice some wiser , better educated people .

I wish that any of those disgusting ego-maniacs running their countries and posing for media as leaders would be actually ashamed and humbled by this accident and admit that there’s something they really missed to see.

Instead just pretending to be cool and playing their ‘kabuki’ with their own family members .

I wish that the same people would realise how more hardness and deafness will bring us all to more destruction .
And that their sadness being the last ..will be the greatest to overcome


:bowing:

Cidersomerset
16th February 2018, 13:39
Looks like this script is still playing, eh?

Exactly Targe when you look at these events as long as
we have many of these events are connected. I am listening
to Q in the background and they go into much of this in the
segment below......( Who said only women can multi task )...:typing:..:washing:..:ranger:


HOT, NEW Q, JEROME CORSI Q-Anon ANALYSIS (2-15-18) Part 2
Q-ANON BREAKING NEWS! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

They start off discussing the recent shooting , MK Ultra , autism and why
they are doing what they are doing on the chan's and more...It develops
into an excellent general discussion connecting dots as they go....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gOd6AEXyAY
Published on 15 Feb 2018

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-&p=1208337&viewfull=1#post1208337

=================================================
=================================================

Anthony Cumia is not saying it did not happen he is talking about why it happened
and the media reaction especially concerning guns....


ANTHONY CUMIA: False Flag At Florida High School Shooting - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn1-WoU8lEg
Published on 16 Feb 2018

===================================================
===================================================

This is a sad interview .......But there are still questions about these events.

School shooting survivor: 'Kids were bleeding out everywhere'
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Published on 15 Feb 2018
Jonathan Blank was in a first-floor classroom when he said the gunman
started firing into the room.
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Remembering the lives of the 17 victims killed in deadly Florida school shooting
CBS News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8Hws1JRVs
Published on 15 Feb 2018
A gunman killed at least 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida on
Wednesday. CBS News correspondent Vladimir Duthiers joins CBSN with more on
the lives that were lost.

TargeT
16th February 2018, 13:46
It's sad that this drama still works, and that the public is so apathetic that they do nothing but consume the first narrative that is heavily pushed.


And still, we aren't even looking in the right direction if these events are to be stopped....
https://i.redd.it/b03diapwxfg01.jpg



.( Who said only women can multi task )...:typing:..:washing:..:ranger:

Haha, I always thought you were a gentleman, I guess that's my "I'm a guy" bias.

Hervé
16th February 2018, 16:04
More MSM Fake News: No, there have not been 18 school shootings so far in 2018 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-there-have-not-been-18-school-shootings-so-far-in-2018/article/2649183)

Siraj Hashmi Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-there-have-not-been-18-school-shootings-so-far-in-2018/article/2649183)
Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:30 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/451608/large/1060x600_ba5a551dceaf9a5524978.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/451608/full/1060x600_ba5a551dceaf9a5524978.jpg)

What we saw at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/17-people-killed-in-shooting-at-south-florida-high-school/article/2649130) is no less shocking and horrific than every school shooting we've seen since Columbine in 1999. Seventeen people were killed at the hands of 19-year-old shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz, who was expelled from the school and banned from returning to campus.

It's the type of shooting that makes you sick to your stomach.

You want to get all the facts and gather all the information that you can to ensure that a tragedy such as this never happens again. However, the media has been trying to convince you that these types of shootings where there are mass casualties are happening every day.

It all began on Wednesday when reporting on the developments at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, MSNBC host Brian Williams said that this was the 12th school shooting of 2018.

Ever since then, the talking point was corrected in that there were actually 18 school shootings in 45 days (http://abcnews.go.com/US/18-school-shootings-us-year-group/story?id=53091125). And many in both the media and politics have used it as a rallying cry to make some legislative push to impose new restrictions on guns.

The problem is that it's not accurate.

There haven't been 18 of what we would refer to as "school shootings" in 2018.

The media is either sheepishly or deliberately moving the goalposts and widening the definition of what constitutes a school shooting.

Of the 18 school shootings as listed by the pro-gun control group, Everytown for Gun Safety Support Fund (https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/5928/#5928), here's what actually happened in each of these cases:
1) A man committed suicide using a gun (http://www.wilx.com/content/news/Police-monitoring-incident-in-parking-lot-of-elementary-school-467926003.html) in an elementary school parking lot when the school was closed and there were no children present in Clinton County, Mich., on Jan. 3.

2) Shots were fired at New Start High School (http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/shots-fired-bullet-into-building-at-high-school-in-burien-area/676437674) near Burien, Wash., on Jan. 4. No one was hurt or injured, and no suspects were apprehended.

3) A 32-year-old man shot a pellet gun at a school bus (http://www.kimt.com/content/news/Arrest-made-in-connection-to-Forest-City-school-bus-shooting-468318983.html), shattering a window, in Forest City, Iowa, on Jan. 6. No injuries were reported, and the suspect was apprehended.

4) A Grayson College student confused a real gun (http://www.kxii.com/content/news/Bullet-fired-through-classroom-at-Grayson-College%E2%80%94469653223.html) with a training gun and accidentally fired a bullet into a wall on Jan. 10. No injuries were reported.

5) A 14-year-old seventh-grade student shot and killed himself (https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2018/01/10/teen-boy-found-dead-cochise-county-elementary-school-bathroom-killed-himself-sheriff-says/1021334001/) inside the bathroom of Coronado Elementary School in Cochise County, Ariz., on Jan. 10.

6) Gunshots were fired at a campus building (https://www.sbsun.com/2018/01/10/shots-reported-fired-at-cal-state-san-bernardino-classes-canceled/) at Cal State San Bernardino on Jan. 10. No injuries were reported.

7) Two people in a car exchanged gunfire (https://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/news/2018/jan/16/marshall-police-look-into-shooting-on-campus-of-wi/) at a Wiley College dorm parking lot on Jan. 15. No deaths or injuries were reported and no suspects were arrested, however, one bullet was fired into a dorm room with three female students inside.

8) A Winston-Salem State University football player was shot and killed (http://www.wthitv.com/content/national/470394383.html?ref=383) at a sorority party following an argument in Winston-Salem, N.C., on Jan. 20.

9) A 16-year-old male student shot a 15-year-old female student (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/01/22/one-student-wounded-16-year-old-boy-in-custody-after-school-cafeteria-shooting-in-texas/?utm_term=.120850e0bbde) in the cafeteria at Italy High School in Italy, Texas, on Jan. 22. While the victim was injured, she was expected to make a full recovery. The shooter was arrested and charged (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-teen-charged-assault-italy-high-school-shooting-n840301) with two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. This one we would probably all refer to as a proper "school shooting."

10) An unknown assailant in a pickup truck drove by the NET Charter High School in Gentilly, La., and shot at a group of students on Jan. 22 (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/01/shooting_near_net_charter_high.html). A 14-year-old boy was initially thought to have suffered a gunshot graze, but it turned out to be an abrasion.

11) A 15-year-old male student shot and killed two students and wounded 18 others (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one-dead-after-shooting-kentucky-high-school-multiple-victims-reported-n840171) at Marshall County High School in Benton, Ky., on Jan. 23. The shooter was apprehended.

12) A 16-year-old student fired a gun at another 16-year-old student (http://www.fox10tv.com/story/37350638/shots-fired-at-murphy-high-school-juvenile-arrested) during an altercation at Murphy High School in Mobile, Ala., on Jan. 25. No injuries were reported and the suspect was taken into custody.

13) Shots were fired in the parking lot during an altercation (https://www.wxyz.com/news/shots-fired-at-dearborn-high-school-parking-lot-during-basketball-game) between two nonstudents during a basketball at Dearborn High School in Dearborn, Mich., on Jan. 26. No injuries were reported, and no suspects were arrested.

14) A 32-year-old man was shot and killed in the parking lot (http://6abc.com/man-32-killed-outside-lincoln-high-school-in-mayfair-idd/3013312/) outside Lincoln High School in Philadelphia, Penn., on Jan. 31 during what police believed to be an altercation between students from rival schools. No suspects were arrested.

15) A 12-year-old female student accidentally fired a real gun (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-belmont-high-shooting-20180201-story.html) thinking it was a fake gun. Four students were injured, including one who suffered a gunshot wound to the head, at Sal Castro Middle School in Los Angeles on Feb. 1. The 12-year-old girl was taken into custody.

16) A teenage boy was shot in the chest and nearly killed (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Teen-Shot-Outside-High-School-Was-Set-Up-by-Ex-Girlfriend-Docs-473327173.html) by another student who conspired with the boy's ex-girlfriend in the parking lot of Oxon Hill High School in Oxon Hill, Md., on Feb. 5. The suspect was taken into custody and charged with attempted murder.

17) A third-grade student pulled the trigger (https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/05/maplewood-police-officers-gun-fires-at-school-no-injuries-reported/) of a police officer's holstered weapon at the Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, Minn., on Feb. 5. No injuries were reported.

18) A 17-year-old student was arrested (http://abc7ny.com/teen-in-custody-after-shot-fired-inside-bronx-high-school/3054112/) after firing a gun into the floor of a classroom of Metropolitan High School in the Bronx, N.Y., on Feb. 8.

19) The shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., on Wednesday that left 17 dead. Now, you'll notice that there are 19 shooting incidents listed above, not 18 like the media were trying to make you believe. That's because the third incident on the list involving a pellet gun and a school bus has at least been ruled out as a "school shooting," after it was included in the list of 11 school shootings by the media after the shooting in Benton, Ky., on Jan. 23 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/false-there-havent-been-10-other-school-shootings-this-year-like-the-one-in-kentucky/article/2647075). But frankly, most of the incidents above - probably at least 14 of them, don't really qualify as what we think of as "school shootings" at all.

And of all the shootings listed above, only two qualify as mass school shootings - the one in Benton, Ky., and the shooting in Parkland this week. Everything else was either an isolated incident, non-school-related, or an accident.

Make no mistake, every shooting incident listed above is concerning and indicative of a cultural problem in how people deal with conflict resolution, but, in no way is a mass shooting at a school happening every two-three days in the United States. It's an unfair, dishonest, and disingenuous characterization by the media. Don't let an emotional issue like gun violence prevent you from remembering to report the facts.


Related:

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guns... GUNS... guns... guns... Guns EVERYWHERE!

Kano
16th February 2018, 16:04
Guys there were no crisis actors. I was there. They were my students. This is for real. These kids died. I can verify it.

Mandala,

So very sorry to hear about this. I can't imagine how tragic this must be for you. I do have a question for you. Many students have given interviews to local news reporters about the fact that they (students and faculty) weren't scared at first because the school was conducting drills around a similar scenario as what actually happened. Can you speak to this?

Thoughts and prayers with you.

Bill Ryan
16th February 2018, 20:22
Can you speak to this?
And could you possibly also speak to the claims that there was more than one shooter, and the seemingly very grounded claim that Nikolas Cruz — with no gun — was seen by another student who knew him and spoke to him, while shooting was still in progress?

Kano
16th February 2018, 20:29
Can you speak to this?
And could you possibly also speak to the claims that there was more than one shooter, and the seemingly very grounded claim that Nikolas Cruz — with no gun — was seen by another student who knew him and spoke to him, while shooting was still in progress?

Yes, these claims can be seen in this mash up from yesterday's news coverage. Apologies for the goofy, satirical moments as this is obviously no laughing matter whatsoever but it does have some very important pieces of the puzzle.

nLf_G_GPCoY

Cidersomerset
16th February 2018, 21:35
This is either some sort of inside job which would take us down the conspiracy
theory route ie coordinating or letting it happen somehow like other suspected
cases.

Or it is total incompetence of some kind ? which will probably be the finding.


Justice Department orders review of FBI in wake of Florida shooting

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Published on 16 Feb 2018
Attorney General Jeff Sessions has ordered an immediate review of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the wake of the Florida shooting after the agency
failed to act on multiple tips.

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FBI admits it never acted on tip in January on Florida shooting suspect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTD7V7QuaLA
Published on 16 Feb 2018
Former NYPD Lieutenant Darrin Porcher and former FBI agent Jeffrey Ringel on
how the FBI handles tips on potential threats.

ZoSo925
17th February 2018, 01:33
Same typical media spin and Jimmy Kimmel crying on TV and bashing trump. Jimmy has become a total wus and I have never seen someone cry more on national TV since the days of Tammy Faye Bakker


What's going on with the Pharmaceutical abuse and pandemic in this country ? Surely they news won't report on that because these pig corporations pay and fund them with advertisements with their umbrella of 50 other companies they own

Michelle Marie
17th February 2018, 05:55
It's sad that this drama still works, and that the public is so apathetic that they do nothing but consume the first narrative that is heavily pushed.


And still, we aren't even looking in the right direction if these events are to be stopped....
https://i.redd.it/b03diapwxfg01.jpg



.( Who said only women can multi task )...:typing:..:washing:..:ranger:

Haha, I always thought you were a gentleman, I guess that's my "I'm a guy" bias.

Students are coerced to take Prozac and other psychotropic drugs prescribed on school campus. How can they be subjected to this in schools with mandatory attendance? They KNOW the suicidal and homicidal effects these drugs have on children.

I AM calling for drug control! I am calling this whole scenario a crime against humanity. Get Pharma pushers out of our schools, or don't comply with mandatory attendance.

Schools are not safe, and it's not because of guns.

I refuse to teach in public schools any longer. I won't even substitute -- not for one day -- at any grade level, and I was certified Pre-K through 12.

I'm sure I already mentioned the student (Oregon when this happened, but taught in Florida schools previously) who told me he was going to the on campus doctor's office to tell them he did not want to be on Prozac.

How many don't stand up for themselves?

Our schools have been compromised by big Pharma. Where are the legislators and laws for protection against these criminals?

MM

Tangri
17th February 2018, 07:28
Gov. Rick Scott: FBI Director Needs to Resign (https://www.flgov.com/2018/02/16/gov-rick-scott-fbi-director-needs-to-resign/)

On February 16, 2018, in News Releases (https://www.flgov.com/news-releases/), by Staff



ARKLAND, Fla. – Today, Governor Rick Scott made the following statement regarding the FBI’s admission that they failed to take action after receiving information on January 5, 2018, regarding “[Nikolas] Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.” Governor Scott said, “The FBI’s failure to take action against this killer is unacceptable. The FBI has admitted that they were contacted last month by a person who called to inform them of Cruz’s ‘desire to kill people,’ and ‘the potential of him conducting a school shooting.’
“Seventeen innocent people are dead and acknowledging a mistake isn’t going to cut it. An apology will never bring these 17 Floridians back to life or comfort the families who are in pain. The families will spend a lifetime wondering how this could happen, and an apology will never give them the answers they desperately need.
“We constantly promote ‘see something, say something,’ and a courageous person did just that to the FBI. And the FBI failed to act. ‘See something, say something’ is an incredibly important tool and people must have confidence in the follow through from law enforcement. The FBI Director needs to resign.”

Tam
17th February 2018, 08:11
I think it's too early to place bets on whether or not this was a planned event.

I for one wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the CIA or whatever sent some professionals to mow down random people (and any witnesses), then framed the most unstable kid there as a scapegoat. Throw in some well-placed crisis actors, do the usual dance with the mass media, bada bing, you have yourself another 9/11!

More than the final catalyst to take away guns (let's be real, this is like the 7th mass school shooting in less than 20 years. We're not getting rid of ours guns anytime soon), I think this could well be the catalyst for Trump to militarize America, which he clearly seems to be wanting (I know this comment will ignite some debate, but let's try and keep it on-topic). You know how 9/11 ushered in what ultimately culminated into the Patriot Act?

Maybe this is something that's going to usher in a similar change, one where we have some hellish lovechild of the NSA on school campuses. That's a good way to desensitize a generation to mass surveillance and authoritarian dictatorship: get the kiddos to learn to count in what's effectively a maximum-security prison.

But you know what else this could be? This is just as bad, arguably.

Pure chance.

I know a lot of us have seen the light, for lack of a better term, when it comes to the bitter, inconvenient truths of this world. I know a lot of us are highly spiritual, and adhere to New Age-esque beliefs of Universal Source and Love and all that. Both fully valid things to believe.

But not everything happens for a reason, and not everything is planned, not by God, or by the PTB.

Sometimes, the pieces fall where they may, and sh*t happens.

In any case, we'll have to monitor this one carefully.

Cidersomerset
17th February 2018, 12:59
Fatal Fail: FBI received 20 calls about shooter over last few yrs,
‘protocol was not followed’

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Published on 17 Feb 2018
The FBI has admitted it knew the Florida shooter posed a threat - years
before Wednesday's atrocity. It says it had been receiving intelligence on
the alleged perpetrator of one of the deadliest school shootings in US
history, prior to the attack.
READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/8zcc

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Florida school shooting ‘will always be engraved in my mind’ – survivor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07K9eq4RHN8
Published on 16 Feb 2018
After 17 people were killed at a Florida high school, authorities are questioning why
nothing was done about multiple earlier reports involving the attacker, Nicolas
Cruz. Florida Governor Rick Scott is calling on FBI Director Chris Wray to resign
after the agency admitted it failed to act on a tip about Cruz. RT’s Nicholas
O’Donovan has the story

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http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Florida school shooting: FBI under pressure over failure to act
3 hours ago 17/2/18

Pressure is mounting on the FBI over the agency's failure to act on a tip
that Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz might carry out an attack.

Florida Governor Rick Scott said the agency's director must resign, while
Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered a review, lamenting FBI "failures".

Some of those close to the 17 victims of Wednesday's shooting also
voiced dismay at the FBI's actions.

read more..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43094840

Wind
17th February 2018, 13:01
When this year is over, there will have been several other cases like this. So we'll have to keep monitoring all of them and the insanity of humanity.

Cidersomerset
18th February 2018, 02:09
Attorneys for the alleged Parkland school shooter
plead to avoid the death penalty

ABC News

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBw3z-N40o8

Published on 17 Feb 2018
A report from the Department of Children and Family
Services shows the alleged shooter had a history of
autism, ADHD and depress

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FBI & police knew the Florida shooter posed a threat, but ‘protocol wasn't followed’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9s31rYfXjM

Published on 17 Feb 2018
The FBI and police have admitted they knew the Florida shooter posed a threat -
years before Wednesday's atrocity.

Michelle Marie
18th February 2018, 03:04
A deeper look at the players involved. Connections and affiliations that make you wonder...the sheriff, the judge, the plea bargain prior to investigation, the multiple shooters reported, the suspect being found miles away (after talking to the girl out on campus)...

A body bag was put into a truck (possible weapons?) did not contain a body.

MKUltra. Orion. Other spinoffs of MKUltra, Etc.

Bill Cooper, Big Pharma, Ft. Lauderdale airport shooter who had reported being targeted by mind control technology beforehand.

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Mentions the investigative reporter, Tim Holmseth, who uncovered information regarding this corrupt county--child sex trafficking, pedophile ring. Debbie Wasserman Schultz area.

MM

Omni
18th February 2018, 05:59
What is the end goal of these mass shootings? ... I am of the opinion that these are largely planned, false flag events but what is the end game here?
One end goal I can detect within their agenda is to mind control individuals to commit atrocities to program the mental illness paradigms with more punitive psychiatry. Mental health fascism which is then able to be customizably applied to any dissident as a form of legal oppression and counter-proliferation. The process is hitting them with overt neuroweaponry until they report 'voices' [microwave auditory effect] to a Doctor or psychiatrist and get hit with the label paranoid schizophrenia. Punitive psychiatry has been used for decades including in the U.S.S.R./Russia, America, Europe, and other countries.

I heard this kid said he heard voices and thought the government was mind controlling him from a source (not sure if true). If that comes out I would suspect that they are trying to apply punitive psychiatry mechanics to targeted individuals by way of gun violence social engineering. Essentially mind controlling individuals to the point of destroying their lives completely for their agenda. The ability of mind control is incredibly powerful, and it works on anything with a functioning brain.

mgray
18th February 2018, 07:17
All of the mass school shootings have been beyond ridiculous and sad for some time now. I am not posting links because there are a million to pick from and all have varying degrees of information. It's too early for real numbers. My reason for starting this thread is to try to gain insight on the "why".

What is the end goal of these mass shootings? I think we can rule gun control out because I just don't think that will ever happen. It will cause a revolution and TPTB don't want that. I am of the opinion that these are largely planned, false flag events but what is the end game here?

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of these innocent, murdered children. It's Valentine's Day and it's Ash Wednesday. So tell someone you love them. We are all we have.

Jumping back to OP of the why. Earlier in the day there was a shooting of a car at the gate of the NSA campus in Fort Meade Maryland. Could this have been implemented to move that out of the news?

Just a thought.

Tintin
18th February 2018, 11:13
All of the mass school shootings have been beyond ridiculous and sad for some time now. I am not posting links because there are a million to pick from and all have varying degrees of information. It's too early for real numbers. My reason for starting this thread is to try to gain insight on the "why".

What is the end goal of these mass shootings? I think we can rule gun control out because I just don't think that will ever happen. It will cause a revolution and TPTB don't want that. I am of the opinion that these are largely planned, false flag events but what is the end game here?

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of these innocent, murdered children. It's Valentine's Day and it's Ash Wednesday. So tell someone you love them. We are all we have.

Jumping back to OP of the why. Earlier in the day there was a shooting of a car at the gate of the NSA campus in Fort Meade Maryland. Could this have been implemented to move that out of the news?

Just a thought.

I would wager that you are onto something there, along with what Omnisense has just posted regarding the mental illness agenda. The tip of a humungus dung heap this whole situation is any which way it can be perceived.

mgray
18th February 2018, 20:14
Here's my take (https://wp.me/p8BOpJ-1kN) on the shooting and how the the TV news operations handle it.

Tintin
19th February 2018, 11:27
Here's my take (https://wp.me/p8BOpJ-1kN) on the shooting and how the the TV news operations handle it.

That's a great piece of writing: everybody should read it and digest its contents.

East Sun
19th February 2018, 22:46
the whole process of having cameras everywhere and police in schools is ludicrous. It is the typical "phony" method of "make believe" that the "behind the scenes groups of controllers crank out continually.
It is a deviation and a lie as to what should be logically done. It is an avoidance of the reality that we can see in front of our eyes.

Do these ever stop these shootings from happening? NO!
The situations we are familiar with are planned with uncanny precision and always pinned on some conditioned "patsy" to satisy the public.

Look, we caught the culprit/victim.
Now we should ban guns, yeah, yeah, yeah, lets march.

Stop and look around. That is obviously what this is all about.
Look instead at all this process perpetrates.

Take note of what is involved. Do your own thinking in order to place the blame where it belongs.
If you don't know, find out.

Kano
20th February 2018, 00:20
Jumping back to OP of the why. Earlier in the day there was a shooting of a car at the gate of the NSA campus in Fort Meade Maryland. Could this have been implemented to move that out of the news?

Just a thought.


I would wager that you are onto something there, along with what Omnisense has just posted regarding the mental illness agenda. The tip of a humungus dung heap this whole situation is any which way it can be perceived.

Absolutely. I had that thought the day after this happened - 'what are TPTB going to use this tragedy to cover up for their own ends?' Kind of like how Clinton dropped more bombs on Kosovo than any other time the day of the Columbine massacre.

Thanks for posting, mgray.

lloyds
20th February 2018, 23:11
@mandala do you know this student?

Mandala
20th February 2018, 23:50
Yes I had his sister in class. They use to live in California moved to Parkland for safer schools. Good family. They are appearing on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. His week they are doing a show with Dr. Phil. The daughter is traumatized. All the survivors are the watched their friends get shot while they took their jackets off to try and stop the blood. They had to walk over their dead friends to get out of the building. The bullets went through the walls and steel doors.

These kids were looking at bright futures. Most will go to Ivy Leave Schhols. The majority of then have perfect SAT scores. Super smart, driven, gutsy and won't back down. They messed with the wrong bunch of kids and wrong community. Half are Republican conservative the other half moderate to liberal democrats. They won't let this go.


The kid is not a crisis actor. He's typical of the rest of the 3200 in the school.

Mandala
21st February 2018, 01:32
Just watched Anderson Cooper. Did anyone else?

TargeT
21st February 2018, 01:55
Just watched Anderson Cooper. Did anyone else?

Hard to watch anything from him, he's about the most obvious plant I've seen... hope he did your family justice, not just used them for the narrative.

O Donna
21st February 2018, 06:21
That is some bonafide reporting right there. Not to go off topic but that is the kind of reporting I always thought anything with the word 'news' in it should be.

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 08:36
Yes I had his sister in class. They use to live in California moved to Parkland for safer schools. Good family. They are appearing on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. His week they are doing a show with Dr. Phil. The daughter is traumatized. All the survivors are the watched their friends get shot while they took their jackets off to try and stop the blood. They had to walk over their dead friends to get out of the building. The bullets went through the walls and steel doors.

These kids were looking at bright futures. Most will go to Ivy Leave Schhols. The majority of then have perfect SAT scores. Super smart, driven, gutsy and won't back down. They messed with the wrong bunch of kids and wrong community. Half are Republican conservative the other half moderate to liberal democrats. They won't let this go.


The kid is not a crisis actor. He's typical of the rest of the 3200 in the school.

Sorry Mandala, for clarity, lloyds' question was, "do you know this student?"

Specifically, ...do you know David Hogg (not referring to his sister or family) and if so, how well? ie was he in any of your classes?

sunwings
21st February 2018, 12:15
Florida House aide fired after claiming Florida shooting survivors are 'actors'

An aide to a Florida House lawmaker was fired Tuesday after he said that Parkland students who were speaking out on gun control after Wednesday’s mass shooting were paid actors.

Benjamin Kelly, the aide to Republican Rep. Shawn Harrison, emailed Tampa Bay Times reporter Alex Leary to claim that two Marjory Stoneman Douglas students who appeared on CNN weren’t actually survivors of the attack.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/20/florida-house-aide-fired-after-claiming-florida-shooting-survivors-are-actors.html

lloyds
21st February 2018, 12:50
Yes I had his sister in class. They use to live in California moved to Parkland for safer schools. Good family. They are appearing on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. His week they are doing a show with Dr. Phil. The daughter is traumatized. All the survivors are the watched their friends get shot while they took their jackets off to try and stop the blood. They had to walk over their dead friends to get out of the building. The bullets went through the walls and steel doors.

These kids were looking at bright futures. Most will go to Ivy Leave Schhols. The majority of then have perfect SAT scores. Super smart, driven, gutsy and won't back down. They messed with the wrong bunch of kids and wrong community. Half are Republican conservative the other half moderate to liberal democrats. They won't let this go.


The kid is not a crisis actor. He's typical of the rest of the 3200 in the school.



cool, wasn't insinuating anything. hope you, your students and their loved ones are holding up OK..

lloyds
21st February 2018, 12:59
Yes I had his sister in class. They use to live in California moved to Parkland for safer schools. Good family. They are appearing on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. His week they are doing a show with Dr. Phil. The daughter is traumatized. All the survivors are the watched their friends get shot while they took their jackets off to try and stop the blood. They had to walk over their dead friends to get out of the building. The bullets went through the walls and steel doors.

These kids were looking at bright futures. Most will go to Ivy Leave Schhols. The majority of then have perfect SAT scores. Super smart, driven, gutsy and won't back down. They messed with the wrong bunch of kids and wrong community. Half are Republican conservative the other half moderate to liberal democrats. They won't let this go.


The kid is not a crisis actor. He's typical of the rest of the 3200 in the school.

Sorry Mandala, for clarity, lloyds' question was, "do you know this student?"

Specifically, ...do you know David Hogg (not referring to his sister or family) and if so, how well? ie was he in any of your classes?


she's a teacher, I'm sure she can read. just be careful where you're heading with this. there are false flag attacks, and as a collective we can piece these things together with facts and evidence.

There are also sick individuals out there that copy cat dumb **** they see on TV.

not everything is a conspiracy, we need to weed out the bull**** and not jump to conclusions otherwise we look like nutt jobs.

TargeT
21st February 2018, 13:07
not everything is a conspiracy, we need to weed out the bull**** and not jump to conclusions otherwise we look like nutt jobs.

Says the guy with the best evidence I've seen that there appears to be a planted witness.....

unless moving from Cali to parkland is a pretty common thing. (and his dad is FBI too? hmmm...)


But he could just be an opportunist thrusting himself into an... opportunity, I'd guess this is the case, above picture can be explained by that most likely...

good times..

Snopes says he's legit (https://www.snopes.com/2018/02/20/right-wing-media-david-hogg/), so case closed; right?


you going to edit that post any more or what?

Oh yeah, his mom is CNN...

;)

lloyds
21st February 2018, 13:09
where did I say that? I spotted it on another website where all sorts of allegations were being made, so i thought i would check in with someone at ground zero.

lloyds
21st February 2018, 13:26
you going to edit that post any more or what?

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 13:28
Yes I had his sister in class. They use to live in California moved to Parkland for safer schools. Good family. They are appearing on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. His week they are doing a show with Dr. Phil. The daughter is traumatized. All the survivors are the watched their friends get shot while they took their jackets off to try and stop the blood. They had to walk over their dead friends to get out of the building. The bullets went through the walls and steel doors.

These kids were looking at bright futures. Most will go to Ivy Leave Schhols. The majority of then have perfect SAT scores. Super smart, driven, gutsy and won't back down. They messed with the wrong bunch of kids and wrong community. Half are Republican conservative the other half moderate to liberal democrats. They won't let this go.


The kid is not a crisis actor. He's typical of the rest of the 3200 in the school.

Sorry Mandala, for clarity, lloyds' question was, "do you know this student?"

Specifically, ...do you know David Hogg (not referring to his sister or family) and if so, how well? ie was he in any of your classes?


she's a teacher, I'm sure she can read. just be careful where you're heading with this. there are false flag attacks, and as a collective we can piece these things together with facts and evidence.

There are also sick individuals out there that copy cat dumb **** they see on TV.

not everything is a conspiracy, we need to weed out the bull**** and not jump to conclusions otherwise we look like nutt jobs.

Likewise lloyds, I too was a teacher ...Uni, actually (so what?) - no need to be defensive or use the threatening tone, thanks.

I'm also half a world away and haven't seen any of this on TV but my last choice would be the fake stream BS pedaled on CNN by Anderson Cooper. :)

I'm absolutely looking for facts & evidence. And so far, this kid is anything but what I'm seeing on this thread so far:

Some inconvenient "evidence":

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EDIT: These two videos were quickly removed, but others exist. Effectively they show David Hogg "forgetting his lines" and being coached by "someone" off camera on what to say. Since this post, he also fobbed his lines on the CNN interview with Anderson Cooper...

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You were saying? :sherlock:

Noelle
21st February 2018, 14:29
I have watched this video a few times, but the first thing that I noticed was that it looks like he has makeup on or his face has been airbrushed. His skin is so smooth; there appears to be blush/rouge on his cheeks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWRZBGdT68E

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 14:41
Looks like he still can't get his lines right... oops (seated next to his Dad)

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KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 14:45
These classmates look really devastated... anyone look familiar in these shots?

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TargeT
21st February 2018, 14:59
Hogg's connected to Podesta??
https://kek.gg/i/6QFGqj.jpeg




there's other interesting "students" as well....

https://i.imgur.com/z5o8OcK.jpg

Kano
21st February 2018, 15:35
Good investigative work on these students, especially this David Hogg kid. From where I'm standing, there's more than enough evidence to support the fact that he could be less than legitimate. I'm not saying he is part of a false flag, but what I am saying is that there's enough conspiratorial pieces/dots that one can connect to surmise that something's not quite right.

CNN Mom, FBI Dad...pffffttt!

Flash
21st February 2018, 15:40
Come on Target,

You know very well, having teens yourself, that they will go on youtube and facebook and ask their friends to send e-mail to congressmen, to sign petitions, to get to be activist in some small spheres of life without ever checking where that foundation or agency promoting the activism is from. I do not know how often I had to show my daughter what she was truly doing (and still is showing her) thanks to Avalon in great part, I was made aware.

You cannot condemn kids for good thinking such as stopping rapes. The idea is not bad as such.

But yes, having John Podesta, a probable child rapist and children trade black operative, yes, this has to be known. You see, I did not know myself and would have approved the impetus those young have regarding sexual assault and everyone responsibilities.

As for the Church of Satan, Delaney is either a stupid teen trying stupid stuff that will definitely bite her on the long run, or she is from the Church of Satan with her family in it. This has to be followed, for the moment I vote for stupidity (gosh there is adult members of Avalon who have made the same error, that I am aware of, to later withdraw from the left hand path, how would you not want younger ones to be confused - look at Corey's following for gosh sake, are all these young souls to be condemned?).



Hogg's connected to Podesta??
https://kek.gg/i/6QFGqj.jpeg




there's other interesting "students" as well....

https://i.imgur.com/z5o8OcK.jpg

Bob
21st February 2018, 16:39
Just my opinion:

It seems to me we are seeing "terror". The root. If it manifests with a child, or young adult as the vehicle, using whatever 'tool' to evoke "terror", even social media can be used to "terrorize" (they call it trolling in the most general sense)...

The guns we have are there for protection against terroristic activities, no matter who institutes them - originally to ensure that no foreign government or domestic terrorist will be able to be successful in taking over..

Collusion by the "news services" to gain points, viewer revenue and keep people emotionally charged. That obviously is happening.

Student's protesting - that has been going on since the 1960's, tracking back one can locate the foreign services using the kids, who most likely would enjoy getting out of school and getting some drama going for themselves, having a "cause". Whatever "cause" that gets the juices stirred.. Kids lead by a charismatic "leader" to get them rallied, then they are no longer just "nobodies" in the system. Ya I've been a teacher too, that just says we try to help students get some understanding and most of all "experience".. from our viewpoints, not just some syllabus handed to us by the "school board" (read: accepted "programming").

If we go back to Ireland, starting 1969 (the "glorious '60's), and take a close look, it was BOMBINGS - There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969–1998). Where were the outcries to "BAN BOMBS?"

IF there is more gun control in the US, "banning guns" which can legitimately be used for protection against criminals foreign and domestic, the US ends up like many nations in Europe, put back into "the government will protect us" status - which means the government HAS to absolutely surveil everyone at every point, and all media, communications has to be monitored. Intelligence is the only way to know what's up and where the "terrorist" is. Is that desired? (We are already experiencing as a group, webpages being in-accessible).

Banning guns means, we'd go back to being subjected to terrorism by bombs, or other mass sabotage, such as reservoirs being polluted, trains being sabotaged, subways having chemical agents (or biological agents) released within..

The stupidity of the "protestors" is because their education is refusing to teach them about manipulation, who does it and why. Who benefits by the US, or North America having "guns" removed. (read protection removed).

The issue about "mental health" is a good try, to see about what drugs are being pushed, on adults, and kids alike. But that is not the issue, nor solution - it is "A SOLUTION", but not "THE" solution. It is coming back to EDUCATION and understanding TERRORISM and who is using it, and WHO is trolling to make points on tragedy.

If our kids knew that, I would say let them now know we ARE being invaded, and the way of life proposed by the outcome of terrorism "in-play" is not pretty - it would be the ever-omni-present surveillance of all actions. There would be more thought control than ever before. And it will not be pretty.

The solution on the "gun issue" is to deal with TERRORISTIC THREATS being made by anyone wanting to use any device to threaten others, to use those mediums for POWER ABUSE. That is where the mental issue and questions come in. Can they legitimately feign "mental sickness" to "get away with it". I've seen first hand how the system LETS the criminally violent "get away" with it for many years, for watching cops and courts just allow TERRORISTIC behavior to flourish.. THAT observation is valid, I've seen it first hand, and we as a group have seen it, where the penalties for TERRORISM don't exist, and is not enforced by the existing judicial and law enforcement system.

It seems obvious. Student protests are ludicrous in actually getting to the root cause, the trolling and manipulating by somebody, trying to use "tragedy" to get points.

The terrorists will use something else, "social media", bombs, chemicals, biologicals, sabotage - on and on and on.. And the media will gleefully spin that to "get points". Deal with the subversion, the terror, the sedition, the collusion. There was some mention early on about "draining the swamp" - if the swamp critters are behind and in collusion with foreign interests, or "international terrorists" certainly those 'swamp critters' are gleefully basking in the media trolls. It's not guns, that is the current "drama". ROOT causes need to be addressed.

ref: IRA bombing, Northern Ireland - History - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process

Definitions

Terrorism: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce
Political Terrorism: the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives
Abuse of Power: The act of using one's position of power in an abusive way. This can take many forms, such as taking advantage of someone.
Collusion: Secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to manipulate, cheat or deceive others.
Sedition: Conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state.
Subversion: A process by which the values and principles of a system in place are contradicted or reversed, an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, hierarchy, and norm (social).


People are looking at the SUPERFICIAL drama, a "shooting" and then reacting to the "gun" - that misses the point, there is terrorism and a system that ALLOWS terrorists to run rampant. A judicial system that slaps hands, and a police system that ignores red flags..


=======================

===Update===

I am going to add another opinion, and this is based on the program in-place, called the "SKY Marshals". One "sky marshal-like" armed person CAN be placed in EVERY classroom - and/or every event location that exists for the SCHOOLS. That frees up the teachers who absolutely can have a concealed carry.

This is a situation of terrorism, virtually holding hostage our students to put them in fear.

The "HOLE in the SYSTEM" was that a "shooter" (it could just as easily be a "bomber" or someone with a "biochemical or chemical weapon") could enter a secured area.

How come? How could a system have a hole such as the doors open when a fire alarm is setoff. Who set it off INSIDE I wonder? An accomplice?

There is a necessity to use the Sky Marshal-concept PLUS an armed teacher. That is very black and white in my opinion.

I believe Trump himself has suggested this concept or is considering it.

Disarming ourselves is not a way - it only puts us all vulnerable to terrorists, whom will I believe find a way despite whatever "weapon" or diabolical device is banned; they will find an alternative such as what happened in Northern Ireland.

We need to educate, teach COMMON SENSE and deal with the "terrorist mindset"; determine WHO is that terroristic swamp, and deal with that.

TargeT
21st February 2018, 19:33
interesting find at Reddit (for all the source links, goto the reddit post):


Hey pedes, I think I've found something massive regarding the gun control bull**** that's coming out of Florida after the recent shooting.

The two soyboys that have been mouthing off over gun control are named David Hogg and Cameron Kasky. Hogg's father is an FBI agent, and there's threads around detailing that ****ery. Cameron Kasky's father, however, is Jeffrey Kasky, an adoption lawyer. He worked for a non-profit called One World Adoption Services (sidenote: globalist much?) where he is listed as the vice president, which is supported by his LinkedIn. His father, George Kasky, is listed as the president. OWAS FL specializes in assisting pregonate women with adoption.

OWAS FL hasn't been the nicest of adoption agencies, as they got dinged for trying to buy a baby from the birth mother before the adoption was finalized, and from what I can tell the agency has since shuttered, although I can't find a decent source on that.

Weirdly enough, there's another adoption agency named One World Adoption Services, but they were based out of Atlanta, GA (they've closed as well). Their executive director is listed as one Margaret Snider, also shown here (she'll be important later). They work with US women that wish to adopt from overseas ****holes like Haiti and the DR Congo, like this heartwarming example of 83 Haitian children getting fastrack adoptions in 2010, courtesy of the State Department and DHS.

OWAS GA has had their fair share of controversy as well. A number of couples have accused OWAS GA of exceptionally shady practices, such as adopting without the family's consent, falsely presenting children as orphans, keeping orphans from being adopted to receive kickbacks, the usual **** we've seen from the Cabal. All of this resulted in the shuttering of OWAS GA in 2014.

Now, there doesn't appear to be any connection to these two agencies on the surface (hmb). Marge Snider is also listed as the executive director of OWAS FL here, here, (where she is directly connected with both Kaskys) and even on OWAS FL's website (which cannot be archived directly, as it redirects to a casino site. Wayback+Archive.is FTW. Can't stop the signal, Mal)

Tl;dr: the father of one of the Parkland gun control soyboys is linked to fraudulent adoption practices in Haiti, with links to $hillary's State Dept and 0bongo's Dept of Homeland Security.

Spez: This is not an enjoyable update. /u/Auss_man suggested following the logos, and like a good little autist I did. Their logo is a purple butterfly. Well, ****. But that's not the worst thing I found. Remember how Trump started calling him Liddle' Adam Schiff? It looks like that might have been deliberate (and all credit to fullchan, they found it first).

This is the Liddle Kidz Foundation. The "premier organization for infant and pediatric massage professionals worldwide." I honestly think I'm going to hurl. Just go look at that site and tell me they're genuine. There is not a single thing on that site that doesn't make my stomach turn. I think Trump has already seen this, and has already started using it in advance of the story breaking. ****
https://www.reddit.com/r/DrainTheSwamp/comments/7z5dlx/repost_from_t_d_ive_linked_the_father_of_one_of/



And then there's this:

David Clarke: Fla. students' gun control push has 'George Soros' fingerprints all over it' (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374840-david-clarke-fla-students-gun-control-push-has-george-soros)

norman
21st February 2018, 19:47
This kind of muscling in to wrap up a patsy even the locals will either believe of glory in, needs a new working name. "False Flag" is too generic.

TargeT
21st February 2018, 20:06
"narrative Hijacking"

though "limited hangout (https://www.reddit.com/r/LimitedHangouts/comments/1yxqhp/definition_of_limited_hangouts_a_limited_hangout/)" sort of applies as well

norman
21st February 2018, 20:08
"narrative Hijacking"

though "limited hangout (https://www.reddit.com/r/LimitedHangouts/comments/1yxqhp/definition_of_limited_hangouts_a_limited_hangout/)" sort of applies as well

It reminds me of how Cuckoos lay their eggs and vanish to let the chaos unfold.

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 21:17
Hmmm didn't take long for YT to remove those two videos of the most damning evidence against David Hogg :clapping: - too bad YT - they've been downloaded ... and will soon reappear :bigsmile:

Noelle
21st February 2018, 21:40
This article is now floating around Twitter. It takes a deeper look at the "possible" crisis actors, with lots of images.

The #NeverAgain Gang (http://newmediacentral.net/the-neveragain-gang/)

Excerpt:

That brings us to David Hogg. Where to start with young David? He claims to be the son of a retired FBI official, he also volunteers his time to WMSD-TV with Delaney, he is a self-proclaimed director, vlogger and new voice of the FBI. You see, the fact that the bureau failed to follow up on tips about Nikolas Cruz wasn’t the fault of the FBI. It was that of the President. But don’t take my word for it. Let David tell you in his own words. “It’s wrong that the President is blaming them for this.” He goes on, “He can’t put that off on them. He is in charge of them and these people, what they love to do is push this off on bureaucracy and so it’s not them.” Did he just call the FBI a bureaucracy? But wait, he’s not finished yet. “He is in charge of the FBI…the executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws and as such, President Trump is in charge of that and the FBI.” I can see why CNN writer, John Brennan is proposing that we should lower the voting age to 16.

Flash
21st February 2018, 22:16
This article is now floating around Twitter. It takes a deeper look at the "possible" crisis actors, with lots of images.

The #NeverAgain Gang (http://newmediacentral.net/the-neveragain-gang/)

Excerpt:

That brings us to David Hogg. Where to start with young David? He claims to be the son of a retired FBI official, he also volunteers his time to WMSD-TV with Delaney, he is a self-proclaimed director, vlogger and new voice of the FBI. You see, the fact that the bureau failed to follow up on tips about Nikolas Cruz wasn’t the fault of the FBI. It was that of the President. But don’t take my word for it. Let David tell you in his own words. “It’s wrong that the President is blaming them for this.” He goes on, “He can’t put that off on them. He is in charge of them and these people, what they love to do is push this off on bureaucracy and so it’s not them.” Did he just call the FBI a bureaucracy? But wait, he’s not finished yet. “He is in charge of the FBI…the executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws and as such, President Trump is in charge of that and the FBI.” I can see why CNN writer, John Brennan is proposing that we should lower the voting age to 16.

Ok, ready to withdraw my words in an earlier post if proofs of ill intent or being manipulated at high levels, from that boy, is showing up.

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 22:48
This article is now floating around Twitter. It takes a deeper look at the "possible" crisis actors, with lots of images.

The #NeverAgain Gang (http://newmediacentral.net/the-neveragain-gang/)

Excerpt:

That brings us to David Hogg. Where to start with young David? He claims to be the son of a retired FBI official, he also volunteers his time to WMSD-TV with Delaney, he is a self-proclaimed director, vlogger and new voice of the FBI. You see, the fact that the bureau failed to follow up on tips about Nikolas Cruz wasn’t the fault of the FBI. It was that of the President. But don’t take my word for it. Let David tell you in his own words. “It’s wrong that the President is blaming them for this.” He goes on, “He can’t put that off on them. He is in charge of them and these people, what they love to do is push this off on bureaucracy and so it’s not them.” Did he just call the FBI a bureaucracy? But wait, he’s not finished yet. “He is in charge of the FBI…the executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws and as such, President Trump is in charge of that and the FBI.” I can see why CNN writer, John Brennan is proposing that we should lower the voting age to 16.

How quick they are to blame Trump for everything created by previous administrations. (They just blame him for "everything". Period!)

Considering his Dad was FBI, David Hogg seems completely clueless (or complicit?) about "how these things work".

Sure, there's no biased, manipulative agenda here. Operation Mockingbird. :facepalm:

Noelle
21st February 2018, 22:49
This article is now floating around Twitter. It takes a deeper look at the "possible" crisis actors, with lots of images.

The #NeverAgain Gang (http://newmediacentral.net/the-neveragain-gang/)

Excerpt:

That brings us to David Hogg. Where to start with young David? He claims to be the son of a retired FBI official, he also volunteers his time to WMSD-TV with Delaney, he is a self-proclaimed director, vlogger and new voice of the FBI. You see, the fact that the bureau failed to follow up on tips about Nikolas Cruz wasn’t the fault of the FBI. It was that of the President. But don’t take my word for it. Let David tell you in his own words. “It’s wrong that the President is blaming them for this.” He goes on, “He can’t put that off on them. He is in charge of them and these people, what they love to do is push this off on bureaucracy and so it’s not them.” Did he just call the FBI a bureaucracy? But wait, he’s not finished yet. “He is in charge of the FBI…the executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws and as such, President Trump is in charge of that and the FBI.” I can see why CNN writer, John Brennan is proposing that we should lower the voting age to 16.

Ok, ready to withdraw my words in an earlier post if proofs of ill intent or being manipulated at high levels, from that boy, is showing up.

He also has much to say on Twitter, with almost 90,000 followers already. His Twitter page is here (https://twitter.com/davidhogg111).

One of his tweets (https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/966294894179438592) today:

David Hogg‏Verified account
@davidhogg111

You can't stop us you never will and you never can we have the strength and grit to last far longer than these politicians will that's for damn sure #midtermsAreComing #NeverAgain

7:53 AM - 21 Feb 2018

KiwiElf
21st February 2018, 23:03
Ahhh, the blind following the blind. Anything to get on TV?? - Some more "graphics" to go with that, LadyM ;)

"Disaster Performers"

Streamed live 5 hours ago (let's see how long this one stays up - download while you can)

Discusses David Hogg and others - plus the points made over the last few posts (including the now missing videos). Important to note Twitter accounts being interfered with which do not support the Mockingbird Agenda/CNN/Left narrative...

zUO74EdQe6g

turiya
22nd February 2018, 00:03
GO AWAY KID (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/02/19/go-away-kid/)

https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/shooting_cartoon_ben_garrison-1024x739.jpg
Via Ben Garrison (https://grrrgraphics.com/fbi-fail/)

WhatTha'
22nd February 2018, 00:23
A little empathy can change a person's reality.

lloyds
22nd February 2018, 01:00
what is @mandala 's take on the ex fbi dad and cnn mom? and the kid being a chrisis actor?

Mandala
22nd February 2018, 01:48
Hey guys, I'm at the CNN Town Hall meeting which will be broadcast at 9:0 pm EST. I will give you details tomorrow.

onevoice
22nd February 2018, 02:34
I have watched this video a few times, but the first thing that I noticed was that it looks like he has makeup on or his face has been airbrushed. His skin is so smooth; there appears to be blush/rouge on his cheeks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWRZBGdT68E

@LadyM, It didn't take YouTube long to censor the video you posted.:(
https://baggage-wm.livelink.io/wm.albums/gallery.photos3.walmart.com/galleries-da11d03876e662a8449b7d797a51516a-11899870052.jpg

Bluegreen
22nd February 2018, 02:39
Still up as of the time stamp of this posting

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Well well well
That didn't take long
Let's see if they ban this one

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KiwiElf
22nd February 2018, 02:47
Still up as of the time stamp of this posting

F58nUXGpXj4

The video title has been changed to hide it from the "sniffer bots", however, it's a quite different video: it does include the original footage - download while you can ! ;)

(See my earlier post #112 ;))


Hmmm didn't take long for YT to remove those two videos of the most damning evidence against David Hogg - too bad YT - they've been downloaded ... and will soon reappear

lloyds
22nd February 2018, 09:33
I wasn't out to offend anyone with my posts. I'll keep staying quiet from here on in. I look foward to seeing what avalon comes up with from this point on.

PurpleLama
22nd February 2018, 14:38
"Colton Haab, a member of the Junior ROTC who shielded classmates in the midst of terror says he did not get to share his experience," WPLG's Janine Stanwood explained.

"Colton wrote questions about school safety, suggested using veterans as armed school security guards but claims CNN wanted him to ask a scripted question instead so he decided not to go," reported Stanwood.

"CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions and it ended up being all scripted," Haab said. "I don't think that it's going get anything accomplished. It's not gonna ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have."

In response CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:

CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.

Someone is lying.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave-scripted-question-after-refusing-question-about

Kano
22nd February 2018, 14:49
Hey guys, I'm at the CNN Town Hall meeting which will be broadcast at 9:0 pm EST. I will give you details tomorrow.

This is pertinent to that meeting. I would love to hear how many of your students this happened to.

http://https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave-scripted-question-after-refusing-question-about

Apologies for the duplicate link. Purplelama beat me to it.

Michelle Marie
22nd February 2018, 15:02
"Colton Haab, a member of the Junior ROTC who shielded classmates in the midst of terror says he did not get to share his experience," WPLG's Janine Stanwood explained.

"Colton wrote questions about school safety, suggested using veterans as armed school security guards but claims CNN wanted him to ask a scripted question instead so he decided not to go," reported Stanwood.

"CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions and it ended up being all scripted," Haab said. "I don't think that it's going get anything accomplished. It's not gonna ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have."

In response CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:

CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.

Someone is lying.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave-scripted-question-after-refusing-question-about

Well then, what is CNN's motive in sponsoring a town meeting?

We already know they are bought off from former evidence, in collusion with narratives supplied by the deep state, and do not present whole and unbiased truth.

I believe the young man. :sun:

This proves they will only report what fits their narrative. With that county being corrupt, according to evidence gathered by Timothy Holmseth and others, surely they will find some to support their narratives. There are a whole group of people that are going to be exposed by the attempt at the coverup.

Mixing truth with fiction is their (CNN/deep state) M.O. Playing on emotions of the orchestrated tragedy is another pattern/tactic. That is wrong.

I have great empathy for all of the true victims and their families. I pray they don't get preyed upon. Let them receive true compassion and healing. Protect them from further abuse. They are experiencing great loss, deep feelings, and they are trying to make sense of it all. They need to have space to heal. I will keep them in my prayers and ask for protection for them.

The truth always comes out.

God bless the students, teachers, faculty, and families in their time of grief. :heart:

MM

Arcturian108
22nd February 2018, 15:16
The famous David Hogg made a video after the shooting with some of his high school friends. Around the 8-minute mark one of the students talks about the expectation that it was an "active shooter drill" and that teachers had prepared students for that:

From Hogg's own channel: video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb0MKcZpbzs)

Michelle Marie
22nd February 2018, 15:25
I just want to cross-post this link provided by bluestflame, because it is so relevant to this thread.

School Shooting -- school admin points out flaws of the school shooting operation based on his personal expertise and experience. He expresses "something stinks".

From Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnBouchell/status/966396341877342208

Common sense will always prevail. :)

MM

Addition: same sentiments at Natural News...
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-02-21-new-low-for-cnn-exploiting-dead-and-traumatized-children-to-push-anti-gun-agenda.html

norman
22nd February 2018, 16:44
Quite apart from the bloodshed and horror and grief, in the grand numbers game, this is extremely dangerous politically.

The vast majority of the population will believe the lies and turn against anyone who stands up against the liars and their sick agenda. Trump has got a tightrope balancing walk to do with this. His enemies expect to trap him and his administration with this on a scale that will replace the entire failed Russiagate thing, and then some.

Michelle Marie
22nd February 2018, 17:12
Quite apart from the bloodshed and horror and grief, in the grand numbers game, this is extremely dangerous politically.

The vast majority of the population will believe the lies and turn against anyone who stands up against the liars and their sick agenda. Trump has got a tightrope balancing walk to do with this. His enemies expect to trap him and his administration with this on a scale that will replace the entire failed Russiagate thing, and then some.

I think their games are backfiring every step of the way. There are enough people awake now to have conversations with others to further broadcast the truth. The number of people following independent journalists and seeking credible sources are evidenced by the proliferation of such journalism.

And then we see the ploys to suppress the truth through account closing and shadow banning. It's an information, truth vs. lies war, and the Internet is a main battleground. :muscle: There is inherent power and invincibility in truth. :star:

That said, it is amazing how many people are still hypnotized and programmed. Tricky wicket!

MM:sun:

norman
22nd February 2018, 17:42
It's already on dodgy ground because it seems the entire world is debating what to do about crazy kids etc who take a gun to school and shoot up the place. That means the crooks have got control over the situation pretty good so far.

I've never seen better evidence that the 'kid' didn't even do it.

But waw, how crafty it is of them to set this up around a kid that everyone was all ready to believe did it.

If you know any 'strange' loner type kids, or anyone of any age, you'd better go have a word and let them know how in danger they are of being patsied. This development is worrying. I can think of a vague or slight chance that I myself could be profiled for patsying. It's not about what I might really do, it's about what they can convince the public I did.

If you've ever got into a public argument with anyone about a conspiracy theory type of thing, you could be on a list of potential patsies already.

TargeT
22nd February 2018, 20:04
"They told us the police officers would be shooting blanks to scare us"


Dunno if we've covered the "drill" side of this incident.. but that's another common pattern to these "questionable" events:
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"They told us they were going to have, like, fake,,no, and have people taken away, and have them scream"

"like in a school drill?"
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https://i.redd.it/dowk8cyrbqh01.png

Vernaianawa
22nd February 2018, 21:37
Thanks, your on the ball, Target T.

Kano
22nd February 2018, 23:38
Thanks so much for everyone's important contributions to this thread. This type of insight and investigatory acumen is why PA is such a special place.

I wanted to go back to my original question on the "why" of these types of events. I have 2 possible agendas these events could help to push. Of course there are more...

1) Mental checks for everyone wishing to own a gun. This is how it will start but could then quickly progress to owning a car, a home, etc. Basically, a backdoor to Communism and on into a dictatorship.

2) Possible militarization of schools. Giving teachers, faculty and staff guns. There are so many issues with this I don't even know where to begin.

I could be mistaken but this does seem to have some flavors of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What other agendas do you see that this opens the door for that may be less obvious than gun control?

Kano
22nd February 2018, 23:47
Just another spoke in the wheel of anomalies surrounding this tragic event.

http://https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/he-never-went-officer-duty-filmed-doing-nothing-during-florida-shooting

KiwiElf
23rd February 2018, 00:14
More on Reddit about David Hogg & his family connections (scroll through thread to read comments)

https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7zgtpy/david_hogg_is_going_to_wish_he_never_agreed_to/


EDIT: Additional threads of relevance at the main site:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/

- Crossposted

Michelle Marie
23rd February 2018, 00:15
That link didn't work for me, so I did a search and found it...

@Kano's link

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/he-never-went-officer-duty-filmed-doing-nothing-during-florida-shooting

MM

norman
23rd February 2018, 00:31
Thanks so much for everyone's important contributions to this thread. This type of insight and investigatory acumen is why PA is such a special place.

I wanted to go back to my original question on the "why" of these types of events. I have 2 possible agendas these events could help to push. Of course there are more...

1) Mental checks for everyone wishing to own a gun. This is how it will start but could then quickly progress to owning a car, a home, etc. Basically, a backdoor to Communism and on into a dictatorship.

2) Possible militarization of schools. Giving teachers, faculty and staff guns. There are so many issues with this I don't even know where to begin.

I could be mistaken but this does seem to have some flavors of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

What other agendas do you see that this opens the door for that may be less obvious than gun control?


Interesting direction of thought.


I think you might be sniffing in the right direction after studying all the BBC radio coverage this evening from 5pm to 11pm GMT. The bbc is a heavily left leaning organisation and I would expect them to be far more leaning to the left/take their guns than this reporting directly indicates.

I've snipped everything on the topic between those times and put it in one 30 minute file. As well as several short snippets there two quite lengthy and serious reports.

If you are American, this brit homeland bbc coverage might shed a different light on things for you.

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/1n7gwstmw8qo3026a3la3xe85eze5yxv


I might have picked the wrong day and they were leaning over the other way the day before, I don't know. It feels a bit strange for the beeb to be so willing to air the second amendment voice like this. It makes me suspicious that they are up to something, like encouraging the second amendment voice so as to get right in the face of the progressive libtards to get a bigger reaction from them. After all, it must have sunk in to the heads of the establishment by now that whatever they support gets rejected by the people and the opposite idea gets legit traction and rises up (?)

KiwiElf
23rd February 2018, 00:43
Another graphic map summarising what they know so far (click a few times to enlarge - NOTE: this has been reduced to 50% of the original)

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Noelle
23rd February 2018, 01:31
Another potential piece, which is coming out today, is the school district's video surveillance that police were watching the alleged suspect on was delayed by 20 mins. They we not watching what was unfolding in real time. :facepalm:

From the Sun Sentinel's Video delays misled cops at Stoneman Douglas shooting (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-response-20180221-story.html):

“They are monitoring the subject right now. He went from the third floor to the second floor, the third to the second floor … They’re monitoring him on camera,” an officer said on radio transmissions recorded by Broadcastify, an audio streaming website, at 2:54 p.m. In fact, Cruz was already long gone — he had escaped the school’s freshman building 26 minutes earlier and was sitting at a McDonald’s a mile away, a timeline released by the Broward Sheriff’s Office shows. ...

Police radio transmissions reviewed by the Sun Sentinel reveal more details about the confusion at the scene as officers tried to determine what was happening and how best to respond to the worst school shooting since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

They show:

-- At the same time the shooter escaped, police were saying they were entering a building, though it’s unclear from radio transmissions whether it was the right building or a neighboring one.

-- Police initially could not get to the security cameras and couldn’t immediately find someone to help them.

-- Police communication was hampered by outmoded radios that left some transmissions inaudible. ...

And finally...

Runcie said Thursday that Stoneman Douglas, like other Broward public schools, has cameras that show images in real time but can also be viewed on a tape delay. He said he did not know that police were confused about whether the tape was live or not.

“There would be no point in having a video system in the school” with a delay, he said. “Why would anybody have that?”

Michelle Marie
23rd February 2018, 04:51
Great video for students -- school safety, school history, Nazi Germany, George Soros

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I hope a lot of students watch this. Talks about anxiety, vaccinations, SSIs - psychotropic drugs for anxiety and depression, original intentions of mandatory schools (Rockefeller & Gates), purpose of second amendment, confiscation of guns in Nazi Germany, George Soros background.

MM :star:

bluestflame
23rd February 2018, 20:59
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-&p=1209967&viewfull=1#post1209967


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html


1. Watch this video. People don't understand how Broward County School Sheriff Officers operate. I'll explain.


https://twitter.com/BasedMonitored/status/966813105576665090


2. I spent about 18 months in 2012, 2013 and 2014 investigating Broward and Miami-Dade school policies and how those policies transfer to law enforcement practices.
3. My interest was initially accidental. I discovered an untold story of massive scale and consequence as a result of initial research into Trayvon Martin and his High School life.
4. What I stumbled upon was a Broward County law enforcement system in a state of conflict. The Broward County School Board and District Superintendent, entered into a political agreement with Broward County Law enforcement officials to stop arresting students for crimes.
5. The motive was simple. The school system administrators wanted to "improve their statistics" and gain state and federal grant money for improvements therein.
6. So police officials, the very highest officials of law enforcement (Sheriff and Police Chiefs), entered into a plan.

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Noelle
24th February 2018, 00:32
Obama tweeted (https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/966704319658647553) the following yesterday in response to the young people now taking on the anti-gun effort in force. "We've been waiting for you" does not rub me the right way.

Barack Obama‏ Verified account
@BarackObama

Young people have helped lead all our great movements. How inspiring to see it again in so many smart, fearless students standing up for their right to be safe; marching and organizing to remake the world as it should be. We've been waiting for you. And we've got your backs.

11:00 AM - 22 Feb 2018

Michelle Marie
24th February 2018, 02:25
Obama tweeted (https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/966704319658647553) the following yesterday in response to the young people now taking on the anti-gun effort in force. "We've been waiting for you" does not rub me the right way.

Barack Obama‏ Verified account
@BarackObama

Young people have helped lead all our great movements. How inspiring to see it again in so many smart, fearless students standing up for their right to be safe; marching and organizing to remake the world as it should be. We've been waiting for you. And we've got your backs.

11:00 AM - 22 Feb 2018

Interpret: "The brainwashing and drugs are working. Just the results we wanted! We OWN you now."

Zombie Apocolypse frequency-specific to our motives and agendas. He-he-he.

Hypnotize....listen to us...we are your new conscience. He-he-he.

Subconscious emotional control patterns with synthetic telepathy cyborg followers. The AI installation obedience program.

Check.

:facepalm: MM

Praying for children everywhere! :angel: I don't accept this as their fate. :heart:

Michelle Marie
24th February 2018, 03:02
Timothy Holmseth ARRESTED!

Journalist Exposing Broward County corruption
Sarah Westall
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Timothy 's plea for help
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Watch his videos! YouTube is feverishly taking down videos and channels regarding this shooting. :censored:

They took down Anti School's YouTube permanently because he mentioned crisis actors. :rolleyes:

Deep State in deep doodoo! Panicking over truth revealed.

Keep digging. Many are over the target. :thumbsup:

MM

UPDATE: Now he is a protected witness.

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KiwiElf
24th February 2018, 07:17
I'd recommend this be downloaded ASAP - it's likely to disappear soon

SmokingGunHogg

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The Vortex Math Laboratory
Published on Feb 23, 2018

This is a composite video made up of 3 different clips that are all from one recording allegedly made by David Hogg while the Florida school shooting was taking place.

(Sorry about quality of production, I don't normally make videos)

1. "Hoggs' Original Edited Version" = LA Times Version (http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/...) This version is higher quality and has parts edited out that the others include. It includes David Hogg speaking to the camera, an interview with Isabelle Robinson and an interview with an unnamed individual ("Alex View"). It ends with Hogg leaving the school and being interviewed.
2. "We Need Diversity" Extended Clip Version = (https://twitter.com/RAMRANTS/status/9...) This clip taken from a Twitter post shows extra "between take" footage not included in the "original version" and has an audio section amplified which reveals Hogg whispering "come on" and "we need diversity", seemingly trying to get other students to speak - this is where "Alex View" begins speaking off-camera.
3. Time Stamp Comment Version (https://gopreload.org/huge-video-evid...) Includes a time stamp reference from Hogg claiming the time is 9:32 before he gets permission to interview "Alex View".

Here is a timeline of the shooting for reference; http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/23/...

David Hogg states that at the time of the interview with A.V, the time is 9:32.
David Hogg states that at 3:13pm they have been informed that the gunman is allegedly Nicholas Cruz and they believe he has been "neutralized".

Officially, Cruz arrived at the school @ 2:19pm
Officially, Cruz is still at large @ 3:15pm
Officially, Cruz is arrested @ 3:41pm

Cross posted

ThePythonicCow
24th February 2018, 07:35
I'd recommend this be downloaded ASAP - it's likely to disappear soon
I have extracted the mp4 video from this youtube video, and uploaded it to my website at: http://thepythoniccow.us/SmokingGunHogg-gZVioBDjFeM.mp4

The timestamp of "9:32" appears on screen between the 1:38 and 1:44 marks in this video, and is spoken at about the 1;41 mark.

P.S. -- I just noticed for the first time that sufficiently "modern" web browsers can play mp4 videos, so that they can be played just by clicking on their URL. I just put the URL for this video, http://thepythoniccow.us/SmokingGunHogg-gZVioBDjFeM.mp4, directly in my reply above, allowing the automatic "parse links in text" feature to place ... markup around it, which resulted in the above clickable ".mp4" link that plays the video in a tab in my version 58 Firefox browser when clicked. This MP4 video support (https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_video.asp) is part of the HTML5 feature set that has been added to the major browsers recently. Cool. One step closer to making Youtube obsolete.


The Vortex Math Laboratory
This Youtube channel, The Vortex Math Laboratory (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVoVfG_m3ZmkBfN7DkCIhsg), is a nearly unused Youtube channel of Marko Rodin. Apparently it was Marko who had saved, and now uploaded, this David Hogg video, and who provided the commentary "This is a composite video made up ... Officially, Cruz is arrested @ 3:41pm". Marko's main Youtube channel is MarkoRodin (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkW7X4j1drqxit0RtQpYHtA), so perhaps he's willing to risk taking a Youtube strike or ban on this other channel of his, The Vortex Math Laboratory (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVoVfG_m3ZmkBfN7DkCIhsg). Thanks, Marko!

P.P.S. -- As posted on steemit.com (https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/extensive-post-reveals-anomalies-and-child-actors-involved-with-parkland-school-shooting-in-florida-on-february-14-2018), someone also uploaded the video of David Hogg forgetting his lines to d.tupe: https://d.tube/#!/v/clarityofsignal/1tv1adsn

P.P.P.S -- And here someone has uploaded a clearer audio, with subtitles, of David Hogg interviewing Alex View, while hiding in a closet, while they discuss the shooting in they state is in progress. At the 0:58 mark, David says to Alex: "This is Alex View, this recording is taken at 9:32 on February 4th 2018." The actual shooting took place sometime after 2 PM that afternoon.

Ewan
24th February 2018, 12:59
My initial reaction to the above posted video (http://thepythoniccow.us/SmokingGunHogg-gZVioBDjFeM.mp4) is that everyone seems remarkably calm for a lockdown situation with an active gunman somewhere on site. The message they all relay is summed up as 'We need to ban guns'.

As I say its my first impression, I have not been following this one, but the cynic in me is wondering if this is a well-crafted anti-gun lobby effort.. disarm the american public and there can be no resistance.

Hervé
24th February 2018, 14:06
Second Florida survivor alleges CNN scripted narrative to push gun control (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/second-family-comes-forward-alleging-cnn-attempted-steer-narrative-banning-weapons/)

Jack Burns The Free Thought Project (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/second-family-comes-forward-alleging-cnn-attempted-steer-narrative-banning-weapons/)
Fri, 23 Feb 2018 00:01 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s22/452993/large/CNN_school_shooting.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s22/452993/full/CNN_school_shooting.jpg)


In their alleged attempt to control the narrative on the tragic shooting in Parkland, Florida last week, CNN has been accused of scripting the very testimonies from survivors to propagate their agenda. While CNN denied doing this to Colton Haab (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/watch-pro-gun-fl-survivor-exposes-cnn-scripting/) yesterday, as TFTP reported, another survivor has come forward with similar claims.

Andrew Klein's daughter survived last week's deadly school shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School. Klein came forward Thursday accusing CNN of attempting to control the narrative in favor of gun control (http://news.sarahpalin-blog.com/2018/02/23/another-one-florida-father-said-cnn-recruiting-people-specifically-push-narrative/) instead of an open uncensored town hall on how such tragedies could be prevented in the future.

Klein said a CNN producer told him the day after the shooting the network some have called the "Clinton News Network" of looking for only one type of person to speak out against guns. Klein told FNC's Laura Ingraham the network was looking for survivors and their families who would, "espouse a certain narrative which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate."
I read that as being a gun control debate...I'm a responsible gun owner. When we talk about gun control it's not about taking guns away from people like me, it's about keeping them out of the hands of the people who should not have them, who are irresponsible who are a threat to society (such as Cruz). But Klein said CNN's debate was not about how the government can help to keep guns from insane people.
"When Ted Deutch kept repeating his mantra that he wants to eliminate any gun that can fire 150 rounds in 6 minutes, that's almost every gun out there. So this supposed assault weapons ban isn't going to accomplish anything."
Ingraham picked up on the fact the CNN producer was attempting to control the narrative and asked Klein to explain. Klein said the CNN producer did not specifically mention guns in her conversation with Klein but said the producer was, "looking for people who want to talk about the policy implications".

As TFTP reported on Thursday, CNN was not only caught red-handed using scripted questions for its contentious town hall meeting with Senator Marco Rubio (R) and NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch but allowed members of the audience to call the guests "murderers" and other derogatory names for taking a stand in support of the Second Amendment.

Klein is the second person this week who has come forward to accuse the Cable News Network of attempting to politicize the shootings, turning the debate into an anti-gun one.

Although CNN denied it, Haab (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/watch-student-explains-hero-coach-couldve-stopped-florida-shooting-gun/) was equally vocal in his criticism of CNN's attempts to turn the tragedy into an attack on the Second Amendment. Haab was asked to write an essay about the shooting and he complied only to find out CNN took his essay and in return, handed him a scripted question. He refused to attend the town hall saying if he couldn't ask his own unscripted question "it would be a total waste of (his) time".
"They had taken what I had wrote and what I had briefed on and talked about, and they actually wrote the question for me." Haab did not attend CNN's town hall as a result but did go to his local news station where he was allowed to speak freely about what he thought could have prevented the school shooting. He also spoke with Tucker Carlson and said if his coach had his gun on him he would have been able to engage the school shooter in a firefight and possibly prevent the tragedy. That's not the message CNN wanted Haab to deliver, evidenced by its alleged striking of all of his essay's position substituted by the scripted question he says he was given.

CNN denied Haab's accusation in a tweet.

It is not the first time CNN has been caught supplying scripted questions. As TFTP has reported (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/tag/dnc-corruption/) and Wikileaks confirmed, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) primaries were rigged against candidate Bernie Sanders. Not only did the highest ranking members of the DNC work against Sanders bid to become the Democratic nominee but CNN worked hand in hand with the DNC to ensure Hillary Clinton won the nomination.

After DNC chair Donna Brazille resigned from her post following Wikileaks publication of DNC emails showing DNC staff attempting to discredit Sanders by attacking his faith, she found a new home at CNN. While working as a paid staffer for CNN, she was caught passing primary debate questions to Clinton's staff, giving Clinton's team an edge in what should have been a free and open debate.

Clinton went on to win the primary and the nomination for the Democratic Party to run for president. But several Sanders supporters sued the DNC in court alleging bias on the part of the DNC against their candidate. The DNC was not supposed to show favoritism for one candidate over another and the plaintiffs allege fraud took place in the election.

Now it seems the DNC is at it again, except this time they're using CNN to control the narrative following the latest school shooting massacre. Conveniently absent from the narrative is any discussion of psychotropic medicines something TFTP has long contended is the common denominator in nearly all school shootings.

Not only are nearly each and every one of the school shooters medicated on psychotropics but no one is calling for a discussion about them. Instead, politicians are guiding citizens' anger toward the object used for killing instead of the potential cause for the callous murdering of one's classmates.


Cypo-S1ftQQ

Related:
Florida school shooting survivor walks out on CNN town hall after refusing to ask 'scripted' question - Update (https://www.sott.net/article/378186-Florida-school-shooting-survivor-walks-out-on-CNN-town-tall-after-refusing-to-ask-scripted-question-Update)

Donna Brazile out at CNN, busted by Wikileaks sharing questions with Hillary Clinton in plot to crush Bernie Sanders (https://www.sott.net/article/332665-Donna-Brazile-out-at-CNN-busted-by-Wikileaks-sharing-questions-with-Hillary-Clinton-in-plot-to-crush-Bernie-Sanders)

American woman publicly shamed by CNN for sharing 'Russian' event on Facebook - abuse and violent threats against her follow (https://www.sott.net/article/378115-American-woman-publicly-shamed-by-CNN-for-sharing-Russian-event-on-Facebook-abuse-and-violent-threats-against-her-follow)

The irony: How CNN and MSNBC 'colluded' with Russian trolls (VIDEO) (https://www.sott.net/article/377988-The-irony-How-CNN-and-MSNBC-colluded-with-Russian-trolls-VIDEO)

Mother Jones, WaPo, NYT, CNN, Yahoo exposed as deep state propaganda puppets in FISA memo (https://www.sott.net/article/376266-Mother-Jones-WaPo-NYT-CNN-Yahoo-exposed-as-deep-state-propaganda-puppets-in-FISA-memo)

CNN once again proves its bias by distorting responses to Russian FM's speech at Syrian National Congress (https://www.sott.net/article/375915-CNN-once-again-proves-its-bias-by-distorting-responses-to-Russian-FMs-speech-at-Syrian-National-Congress)

CNN has gone bananas and doesn't seem to care (https://www.sott.net/article/375663-CNN-has-gone-bananas-and-doesnt-seem-to-care)

Ewan
24th February 2018, 17:18
My initial reaction to the above posted video (http://thepythoniccow.us/SmokingGunHogg-gZVioBDjFeM.mp4) is that everyone seems remarkably calm for a lockdown situation with an active gunman somewhere on site. The message they all relay is summed up as 'We need to ban guns'.

As I say its my first impression, I have not been following this one, but the cynic in me is wondering if this is a well-crafted anti-gun lobby effort.. disarm the american public and there can be no resistance.

Ok, I've caught up a bit now. Seems like that was the whole point in discussing the video in the first place, I take some comfort in the apparent fact my radar is still on full power and working well.

Cidersomerset
24th February 2018, 17:27
I posted this on the Q'anon & U'tube threads and has probably been discussed here..

Connecting dots U'tube is going after Info wars and others in a alternate info crackdown...

Re: YOUTUBE is cracking down as the Deep State empire is '3 striking' back: 23/1/18
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101853-YOUTUBE-is-cracking-down-as-the-Deep-State-empire-is-3-striking-back-23-1-18&p=1210099#post1210099

The Florida shooting seems to be a catalyst for all this....The shooter is real and the
deaths are real as far as I can tell and 'Mandala' an Avalon long time member
confirmed it was real first hand. But this feels like a set up or allowed to happen
from all the warnings of a classic disturbed youth crying for help and ignored. The
campus guard not intervening in the shooting waiting for back up in the crucial
initial stages. The usual drills to disorient the target and possibly set up an
operation/psyop. CIANN leading the fight on the 2nd amendment and the alternate
media crackdown and more.....The Info Wars have revved up......

Proof! CNN Using Child Actors On Air

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Published on 23 Feb 2018
Proof: CNN Using Child Actors On Air

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CNN prime time ratings plummet 30% compared to this time last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM2UEa3GoRw
Published on 23 Feb 2018
According to AdWeek, CNN’s prime time ratings have dropped a whopping 30%
since this time last year. Their daytime ratings also dropped 23%. The Resident
breaks it down. Follow The Resident at http://www.twitter.com/TheResident
Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/
Or watch us online: http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

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Even some at CNN admits epic fail.....Broward sheriffs office 23 calls over 10 years
starting when Cruz was 9 years old. Since 2010 law enforcement has responded 39
time to his home. Of course this could be a tragic fail all the way round but he also
fits the kind of person that could be manipulated. Its shocking its got to the point
its hard to know who to believe in these events...

Smerconish on school shooting: An epic intelligence failure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYd-xRSfUm4
Uploaded on 24 Feb 2018
CNN's Michael Smerconish said the Parkland, Florida, school shooting should have
been stopped by law enforcement after the many warning signs.

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Florida shooting: US airlines join other firms in dropping NRA

14 minutes ago...24/2/18

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Students have been at the forefront of new calls for gun control in the US

Two major US airlines have joined a growing list of companies to cut ties with the
National Rifle association following the Florida school shooting.United and Delta
airlines have both announced they are ending discounts for NRA members.

The killing of 17 people in Florida has revived the gun control debate in the US,
with student survivors playing a leading role in calling for change.Firms with links to
the US gun lobby have faced calls for a boycott.Activists have flooded the NRA's
corporate partners with comments on social media under the hashtag
#BoycottNRA.

Read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43181337

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Dr.Corsi talks more about the Florida shootings....( MK ULTRA , Sirhan Sirhan )

NEW! JEROME CORSI QANON REPORT (2-24-18)
Q ANON, ALEX JONES INFOWARS

INFO WARS NEWS

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Published on 24 Feb 2018

Caliban
25th February 2018, 00:51
I hope you'll take an hour to watch this video. Very revelatory. We really are living in the Truman Show.

Debbie, the "sane progressive" did some incredible work on the Vegas sham and is doing the same on this one. The shooter arrived in an Uber car?? They announced 17 dead on a police feed while it was still supposedly going on?!? And it goes on and on... David Hogg. Gimme a break, peeps. This is Sandy Hook 2.0 High School version. What a effin joke.

I just realized you can't embed any videos other than youtube ones. Obviously, that needs to change now. A lot of videos are going up on bitchute now:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hCp33awMjsq9/

KiwiElf
25th February 2018, 02:58
Thank you Caliban - shout out to all readers: In light of the upsurge in banned videos on YouTube, if you're willing to shell out a few bucks, Internet Download Manager will download a variety of videos in different formats & platforms, including this one [bitchute].

https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com/

:focus:

Text description from above video (links are given in the video):


The official story around Florida Shooting is a mass of totally contradicting narratives, dismissal of repeated testimony of students through MSM interviews, and provably does NOT match timelines and scenarios presented. While the media is throwing a temper tantrum and smearing anyone trying to look at what THEY are telling us and showing us objectively as right wing, crazy, Russia bot or 'Alex Jones', they are diverting from a story that is crashing down around their feet. I will fill in the links separately, but for now if you go to my twitter feed, these are all at the top:

Comments under the video are well worth the read, too ;)

Mandala
25th February 2018, 05:56
Hey guys, I'm at the CNN Town Hall meeting which will be broadcast at 9:0 pm EST. I will give you details tomorrow.

Well it was longer than tomorrow. Sorry. So much going on. CNN narrative: very hostile audience. I expected that. We have a mix of kids from what I can decipher. The ones telling the truth, the ones looking for their 15 minutes of fame, and the out and out fabricators.

This is what I can tell you. All those 17 died. More in the hospital. Tons traumatized and showing signs of PTSD. Not sure if quite a few will return to school. Some just want to do online school. Parents are angry, kids are angry and have lost faith in the system and then you have a group that is angry because their lives and regular schedule has been disrupted.

Could some of the CNN questions have been revised and scripted. Seems possible. I haven’t interviewed any of the kids that spoke that night to get exactly what happened. They prepped the audience and told them how to behave and no booing. Well that didn’t work out. Very angry crowd. Those adults whose kids weren’t directly involved were thinking that could have been my kids, their school.

As far as the shooter goes, I can’t find that he was missing, as being brainwashed by the deep state. However, not sure about his private therapy or lack of. Worked at a dollar store. Kids have been and were always weirded out by him. Very troubled for years.

I know Isabelle, good kid. She was scared out of her mind. D. Hogg was possibly trying to make a video diary of what happened. If he didn’t like how it came out, he might have made them do it again. For what means, couldn’t say. Could have been for posterity or selfish reasons. Can’t say. Don’t know his motivation. These kids are smart, they are very competitive. They will possibly try to outdo each other. I don’t know how much of their personal “egos” are involved but I believe we can assume a lot. They also think on the fly and plan to go back and fix mistakes.

It has left this community broken and grasping at straws as to how to fix it. Of course the first thing they would ask for would be gun countrol. The second stricter background checks and the third better mental health services.

But I have to ask, as a people are we becoming more desensitized and don’t value life as much as we use to. This will happen again in someone’s backyard. It truly makes you look at life, your choices and decisions differently.

Cidersomerset
25th February 2018, 10:03
Something smells about the FBI & Sherriff ......

Judge Jeanine: Shame on you Sheriff Israel

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Published on 24 Feb 2018
Jeanine reacts to the news that four sheriff's deputies
stayed outside of the school during the parkland shooting.

Caliban
25th February 2018, 15:54
Hey guys, I'm at the CNN Town Hall meeting which will be broadcast at 9:0 pm EST. I will give you details tomorrow.

Well it was longer than tomorrow. Sorry. So much going on. CNN narrative: very hostile audience. I expected that. We have a mix of kids from what I can decipher. The ones telling the truth, the ones looking for their 15 minutes of fame, and the out and out fabricators.

This is what I can tell you. All those 17 died. More in the hospital. Tons traumatized and showing signs of PTSD. Not sure if quite a few will return to school. Some just want to do online school. Parents are angry, kids are angry and have lost faith in the system and then you have a group that is angry because their lives and regular schedule has been disrupted.

.................

But I have to ask, as a people are we becoming more desensitized and don’t value life as much as we use to. This will happen again in someone’s backyard. It truly makes you look at life, your choices and decisions differently.

Mandala, I'm sure all of us here at Avalon respect your experience and deeply empathize with your grief and that of your students'. And I know it's got to be hard to want to "research" something that you were directly involved in. But did you have a look at that bitchute video I posted above? What would you say about all the discrepancies and inconsistencies between the official narrative and timeline and what the students themselves and police feeds and video images are showing us?

Why did some students feel totally confident that there were multiple shooters? What about the fact that they all knew there was an "active shooter drill" scheduled for that day and were told to expect "screams," "fake gun shots," and other horrible but staged indications of an attack? Why were some students told to "keep their heads down" as they exited? Why were bodies placed under mats? Who were the "army" people one student described?

The list of questions goes on and on. While we know the grief is real, we must question just what went down there. At this point we can all understand that. As Debbie says in that video, just merely listening to the students--including David Hogg--opens up so many questions about this event. I hope they can be asked while still respecting the experience of those who had to go through this awful day, whatever it was.

Noelle
25th February 2018, 16:29
I meant to share this the other day -- and I don't believe it's been shared yet. Trump's son made MSM headlines for liking tweets that question student David Hogg. I stand with those who sense there is something not quite right with Hogg. I've been monitoring Hogg's Twitter feed, and many of his tweets are inflammatory, bullying.

This is from the NY Post (https://nypost.com/2018/02/20/trump-jr-likes-tweets-attacking-florida-massacre-survivor/) (2/20)

Donald Trump Jr. “liked” a pair of tweets attacking a teen survivor of the mass school shooting in Florida that left 17 people dead — including one that suggests the boy was a fabrication of the “mainstream media.”

The tweets in question note that David Hogg, 17, is the son of a retired FBI agent, and charge that he has slammed President Trump and defended the bureau because Trump has repeatedly slimed the feds.

“@Thomas1774Paine. VIDEO: Outspoken Trump-Hating School Shooting Survivor is Son of FBI Agent; MSM Helps Prop Up Incompetent Bureau,” tweeted a user called Thomas Paine, who added a link to a video on the fringe website True Pundit showing Hogg speaking in favor of stricter gun control.

“The kid who has been running his mouth about how Donald Trump and the GOP are teaming to help murder high school kids by upholding the Second Amendment is the son of an FBI agent. David Hogg is a school shooting survivor in Florida. At least that is what the mainstream media has told us. We wouldn’t be surprised by anything involving the FBI at this point,” a story accompanying the video link said.

Cidersomerset
25th February 2018, 19:06
This seems to confirms the CIA NN counter attack asking Facebook and google to
do more against conspiracy theorists as well as attacking the NRA. David Hogg in
this interview admits having speech and debate experience and is interested in
journalism as a career and worked on the school TV channel.He does sound mature
for his age and good luck to him. It does not answer anything that happened on the
day this is mainly a attack on the NRA and the 'hoax' theories on the web , and
Brian Stelter admits the mainstream is keeping this story going.

Shooting survivor David Hogg thanks conspiracy theorists

-X6GMxNwaGE
Published on 25 Feb 2018
Stoneman Douglas shooting survivor David Hogg calls those who have attacked him
on social media "great advertisers," saying their comments expose them for
how "disgusting they are."

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Glen Beck highlights Alex Jones for spreading the 9/11 and a lot of
other conspiracy theories and they again ask what the technology
companies should do.....

Glenn Beck: US political divide like 1920s Germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naF7HinLQ_U

Published on 25 Feb 2018
Blaze founder Glenn Beck says the political discourse in the
US is similar to Germany's Weimar Republic in the late 1920's.

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CNN has been covering this event and taking the lead with the town hall debate
and wall to wall coverage and attacks on the alt media.To be fair Jake Tapper does
ask some direct questions in interview below....

Jake Tapper grills sheriff over school shooting response
CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGJ_SRcBSE
Published on 25 Feb 2018
CNN's Jake Tapper pressed Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel over his office's
response to the mass shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school,
missed red flags and the investigation into the event.

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We have to stand up and say we don’t want to take this anymore’ | AM Joy | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9RKpiGKxEg

Published on 24 Feb 2018
Parkland shooting survivors and activists David Hogg and Ryan Deitsch are
demanding gun control legislation from elected officials, in addition to confronting
lawmakers who take donations from the NRA and others in the gun lobby. They
also join Joy Reid to discuss gun advocates accusing them of being actors.

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Florida shooting a result of 'abdication of duty': NRA
ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBocIjpQL8
Published on 25 Feb 2018
NRA national spokesperson Dana Loesch tells ABC News' George Stephanopoulos
the focus in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting should be local and FBI authorities.

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Guns in schools are 'not a good idea': Parkland teacher Ashley Kurth & David Hogg
ABC News
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Published on 25 Feb 2018
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Ashley Kurth and student David
Hogg tell ABC News' George Stephanopoulos why they oppose arming teachers
after a shooting at their school killed 17 people.

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Only in America I am looking through the news sites and posted the ones above
and suddenly this one comes up. I know we get caught up in these mass shooting
events when violent crime happens all the time across the country and world for
that matter but then ABC post this....


Mother and daughter in a violent shootout with an armed robbery

ABC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rng_zNl-vQ
Published on 24 Feb 2018
The women defends their store with their own guns, firing back at crook with a shotgun.

KiwiElf
25th February 2018, 21:05
Karma is a boomerang, David Hogg... (from 8CHAN)

37221

bluestflame
25th February 2018, 22:41
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-&p=1210427&viewfull=1#post1210427

explains the white pickup out the back with some form of officials loading a black heavy bag like swat gun bag into the back of it at the school

update i found the white pickup truck and black bag footage Nxla2Sm0yG4

Caliban
25th February 2018, 23:21
Karma is a boomerang, David Hogg... (from 8CHAN)

37221

Check out this guy's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/ssdavis75

Lots of great info and links.

Mandala
25th February 2018, 23:25
Hi Caliban, appreciated your concern and opinions. I did watch the video you recommended and found a few fallacies. That being said, my students told me I quote, "The old fat BSO officers hid behind their cars while the young CSPD cops came in. They noticed it. Was this a case of being within one or two years of retirement and being scared out of your mind to do the job you signed up for?

Certain things are for sure, this will be used to further every ones personal agenda that has a stake in it.

The kids are being kids. As teachers, they called us out on every misspelling or mistake we made.
Again some believe in their cause they represent, some are looking to make a name for themselves in the future.

I don't think anyone could tell some of the most outspoken kids what to say or what cause to be behind. They would tell them to go f$&k themselves. Very tough bunch of super gifted kids.

Yes they have a lot to learn, but do you remember being 15,16, 17 or 18? You thought that you knew more than your teachers or parents.
As far as some kids reported there we was more than one shooter. They are few and far between. I've asked over 120 kids if they heard shots from more than one area and they said no, but there was a reverberation echoing through the large number of buildings.
Several of the kids who were initially interviewed gave inaccurate information.

As far as the timeline discrepancy, there was so much false reporting, confusing information and inaccurate data, I'm not sure when they will actually have what really happened on the timeline. They have to get rid of all the initial BS and redo everything.

Some of those kids who made initial reports were unreliable as most of us remember them as students. Prolific liars, class skippers and some who never did anything in class.

Some I believe were as accurate as they could be, some just wanted to be on TV. Plain and simple.

I'll let you know more when I find out.

Michelle Marie
26th February 2018, 00:16
Karma is a boomerang, David Hogg... (from 8CHAN)

37221

There must be evidence mounting that this was pre-planned and carried out for a purpose.

Like Jerome Corsi said his father told him, don't ask if they are lying, find out WHY are they lying.

Was it just about gun control?
Was it so they could make laws to take action against social media posts they didn't like/agree with?
Was anyone specifically murdered that didn't go along with the agenda?
Was there someone that knew too much about the law (lack of) enforcement issues?
Was there someone that knew too much about someone involved in child sex-trafficking?
Was it a distraction from other nefarious activities?

Each deceased person could be researched to find if they were a target. If there were no specific targets, then why would they kill people/students? WHY did this happen?

Is there a tie in to DNC or occult, or those involved in either one or both?

I think more connections will be coming out in the future to answer these questions. The girl from "You Are Free" YouTube channel (she has already named some names of people involved and their affiliations with "child protective"[?] services), and Timothy Holmseth may be following up on these things.

WHY would police be shooting up a school?
WHY are they tearing it down?

From working in a school, I know there are cameras everywhere recoding all the time.
If this footage is not available, then WHY not?

I still think this event is going to lead to major revelations of truth.

I'm so sorry for the students and faculty that had to endure this horrific experience. I know just how that teacher felt when she said she loves her students, and 2 were murdered, as well as others and her colleagues. :( You become family in the classroom. Deep caring is natural. Like she said, some students take more of your classes to be with you.

:heart: I'll keep sending my love and prayers. :heart:

MM

Hervé
26th February 2018, 01:46
Sott Media (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKSr1nlWwCQzYbW_wUU8A3w)
Published on Feb 25, 2018

On February 14th 2018 in south Florida, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Stacy Lippel was 20 feet from a gunman firing 'barrages' of bullets into classrooms and down the hallway.

During an interview with ABC's Good Morning America, aired February 21st 2018, Lippel described what the gunman she saw looked like.

Original ABC segment of interview: https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAmerica/videos/10155426476492061/


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bluestflame
26th February 2018, 02:25
not sure how to explain this but it hilights what's behind the florida school shooting and how it's being used ( and nails marxism vehicle ) and where it's all headed if we don't defeat it v_w75Fw6PiU
RED ALERT: THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES

Even without Hillary in the White House, they are still coming after our Second Amendment. Can you even begin to imagine the HORRORS they had planned for us if another Clinton was in control? I can. In fact, not only can I imagine it, I can quantify it, and any way you cut it, it spells Marxist genocide. The deep state coup against President Trump that has been revealed is an existential threat to each and every one of us. YOUR future is at stake. Your LIFE depends on stopping this coup. What the deep state is doing is a LIFE AND DEATH MATTER."

Gemma13
26th February 2018, 02:40
Sott Media (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKSr1nlWwCQzYbW_wUU8A3w)
Published on Feb 25, 2018

On February 14th 2018 in south Florida, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Stacy Lippel was 20 feet from a gunman firing 'barrages' of bullets into classrooms and down the hallway.

During an interview with ABC's Good Morning America, aired February 21st 2018, Lippel described what the gunman she saw looked like.

Original ABC segment of interview: https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAmerica/videos/10155426476492061/


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This interview is a shocking, but needed, smoking gun.

COLLATERAL DAMAGE - WE THINK THE PRICE IS WORTH IT!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rO9R9oxFuA

To us it is beyond despicable – making our guts churn so deep with revulsion the vomit is visceral.

It doesn’t matter what country they do it in, or how high the death count, THEY THINK IT’S WORTH IT for whatever agenda they deem fit!

Let us never give up doing everything we can to expose the WE in “WE THINK THE PRICE IS WORTH IT”.

ThePythonicCow
26th February 2018, 04:15
Sott Media (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKSr1nlWwCQzYbW_wUU8A3w)
Published on Feb 25, 2018

On February 14th 2018 in south Florida, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Stacy Lippel was 20 feet from a gunman firing 'barrages' of bullets into classrooms and down the hallway.

During an interview with ABC's Good Morning America, aired February 21st 2018, Lippel described what the gunman she saw looked like.
Here's a bit more of what she said and the context, from Intellihub.com (https://www.intellihub.com/teacher-grazed-by-parkland-shooters-bullet-shooter-was-in-full-metal-garb-helmet-face-mask-bulletproof-armor-shooting-a-rifle-i-never-seen-before/):

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How does the purported shooter exit his Uber ride, put on full body dress, helmet, assemble his rifle, load it and start firing at targets within two minutes?

PARKLAND, Fla. (INTELLIHUB) — Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School teacher Stacy Lippel was grazed by a hot bullet which left the chamber of the shooter’s gun as she closed the door to her classroom after letting a number of students file into what would presumably be safety. However, nothing could have prepared the teacher for what she was to witness next.

“I suddenly saw the shooter about twenty feet in front of me standing at the end of the hallway actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets, and I’m staring at him thinking why are the police here,this is strange because he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before,” Lippel told Good Morning America last Wednesday.

The brave teacher said she told fellow Stoneman Douglas H.S. teacher Scott Beigel, 35, to get back in his room just before the shooter fired a number of rounds into his room killing him and other students.

Lippel said the shooter fired four to five rounds into her classroom which shattered the classroom door window before the heavily-claded assassin continued his diabolic shooting spree down the hallway.

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I am becoming increasingly convinced that this was a real planned and staged shooting, by some portion(s) of the deep state. Whether or not the accused Nikolaus Cruz was actually one of the shooters is almost incidental at this point, in most ways.

I am surprised that ABC's Good Morning America chose to, and was able to, air this piece.

bluestflame
26th February 2018, 04:24
...

adds to it Nxla2Sm0yG4

what i meant to say was "What's in the bag ? "

TargeT
26th February 2018, 14:55
More shenanigans surrounding the Florida shooting, with potentially big connections to other "issues" (gun running etc..)


This is Emily and Alicia Sucher. They are victims from Stoneman Douglas. This is not the first time their family has been in the middle of a gun scandal.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW253d_V4AAVzLd.jpg

Let's establish who they are related to. Here are Phyllis and William Sucher, they have a son named Michael. William built Century World Enterprises, one of world's largest in import/export of civilian/military equipment
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW254xAVQAAPo56.jpg

When Phyllis passed away in 2007 Emily and Alicia are listed as grandchildren. So Michael is either their father or uncle. We are going to focus on him.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW257vRV4AAPnJb.jpg

Michael Sucher is president of [C]entury ([I]nternational) [A]rms among other businesses.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW25-FoVMAE5LNQ.jpg

At the time of this article, more than 500 of the WASR-10s (Romanian made variant of the AK) imported by Century Arms were recovered in Mexico after being purchased in the U.S. That means Century's WASR-10 accounts for more than 17% of the total guns recovered in Mexico since 06.A gun linked to the Paris terror attacks that left 130 people dead and wounded 368 others has been traced back to a Century Arms..
Century Arms also sold arms to the Contras of Nicaragua at the time the 1980s Iran-Contra scandal
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW29t_aV4AAsprS.jpg

Alicia Sucher & Emily Sucher are also actresses.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW4lv_3WAAEIzQj.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW66KN2VQAA5Fg-.jpg


https://twitter.com/fixurheart2016/status/967633872899862529

Noelle
26th February 2018, 15:15
Mainstream media is trying to take command of the student actor narrative and reinforcing the "conspiracy theory" brand on those who question the "official" story.

From the New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-spring-awakening-of-the-stoneman-douglas-theatre-kids) (2-23):

One of the less inspiring things about the movement led by student survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting has been the conspiracy theory—proliferated in the swampy depths where such things proliferate—that the students are actually “crisis actors.” It’s a warped brand of trutherism that spread after Sandy Hook and has since, as my colleague Eric Lach wrote this week, been impossible to reason with. But that isn’t to say that the kids aren’t actors. Cameron Kasky, the seventeen-year-old firebrand who started the Never Again movement with his classmates, told Wolf Blitzer, “Well, if you had seen me in our school’s production of ‘Fiddler on the Roof,’ you would know that nobody would pay me to act for anything.”

AND

For former high-school-theatre kids, it’s a point of pride to see one of our own elevated to civic hero. “All these kids are drama kids, and I’m a dramatic kid, so it really meshes well,” Emma González, one of Kasky’s compatriots, told Emily Witt. (Kasky had just left drama class when the shooting began.) On Thursday, the morning after Kasky asked Senator Marco Rubio if he would promise not to take any more donations from the N.R.A. (he wouldn’t), Kasky tweeted, “Using my in flight chat to learn my Spring Awakening lines.” He was referring to the Tony Award-winning rock musical from 2006, by Duncan Sheik and Steven Sater. From the lines he posted (“can we at least consider the fitness of the conjecture?”), it seems he’s playing the lead, Melchior Gabor.

And a noteworthy MSM headline related to POTUS:

(WaPo, 2-24) Trump just retweeted a fringe radio host who has attacked the Florida school shooting survivors (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2018/02/24/trump-just-retweeted-a-fringe-radio-host-who-has-attacked-the-florida-school-shooting-survivors/?utm_term=.03b5123d52de)

But critics, noting Trump’s history of retweeting far-right figures, accused him of deliberately promoting a school shooting conspiracy theorist just as gun control opponents are trying to discredit the Florida teens with similar hoaxes.

Gemma13
26th February 2018, 15:40
CNN has been covering this event and taking the lead with the town hall debate
and wall to wall coverage and attacks on the alt media.To be fair Jake Tapper does
ask some direct questions in interview below....

Jake Tapper grills sheriff over school shooting response
CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGJ_SRcBSE
Published on 25 Feb 2018
CNN's Jake Tapper pressed Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel over his office's
response to the mass shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school,
missed red flags and the investigation into the event.



Sara Carter (@Fox News Contributor) re-tweeted:


Well done, @jaketapper [CNN]. That interview with Sheriff Israel was deeply necessary and perfectly done.

Here’s the interview with full transcript – the plot thickens. Oh, and so, so painful to watch.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/25/politics/sheriff-israel-sotu-full-transcript/index.html

A few snippets:


TAPPER: I'm also told by sources in Coral Springs that Coral Springs police who arrived at the scene saw that three other Broward deputies were standing behind cars, not having gone into the building. What can you tell me about that?

ISRAEL: Well, let me perfectly clear.
Our investigation to this point shows that, during this horrific attack, while this killer was inside the school, there was only one law enforcement person, period, and that was former Deputy Scot Peterson.



TAPPER: A medical -- let's talk about the response.
A medical first-responder told local news station WSVN that medical personnel were asking to go into the school, but law enforcement wouldn't let them. He told WSVN -- quote -- "Everything I was trained on mass casualty events says they did the wrong thing. You don't want wait for the scene to be cleared. You go in immediately, armed, retrieve the victims. You can't leave the victims laying there."

What's your response to that, sir?

ISRAEL: I agree with that. That's very accurate.

That is how -- this is what you do. Once the killer leaves the scene of a mass casualty, it's still an active killer scene. There are people wounded, people that could -- lives could be saved.
And let me say this. Coral springs police, Broward sheriff's deputies, we did carry people out there. These deputies and these -- and the Coral Springs police officers are credited with savings quite a few lives by getting people medical attention. So, we did.

TAPPER: But did you prevent medical people from going inside?

ISRAEL: No.
Once the scene -- once the scene is -- medical people wouldn't go inside until you're sure that they're not going to get killed inside. We have -- what we do is we tell...

(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER: But this person told WSVN -- this person told WSVN he wanted to go in, this medical personnel, emergency first-responder wanted to go in and wasn't allowed to.

ISRAEL: Jake, I'm hearing that for the first time. If you know who the person is, please have him contact me or the Broward Sheriff's Office, and we will interview him, we will take statements from him.

And if that's true, that's certainly something we will look into, but I'm hearing this for the first time.

TAPPER: OK. WSVN will get back to you, I'm sure.

Tintin
26th February 2018, 16:34
This in from Mike Adams at Natural News, received Yesterday pm UK time.:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-02-23-florida-mass-shooting-allowed-four-deputies-stood-down-sheriff-israel-democrat-anti-gun.html

BOMBSHELL: Florida mass shooting was ALLOWED to happen: Four deputies stood down, led by egomaniacal sheriff exposed as an anti-gun Democrat operative seeking fame

Friday, February 23, 2018 by: Mike Adams

With each passing day, the official story of the Parkland, Florida high school shooting continues to unravel. In its place is emerging an increasingly horrifying conspiracy involving Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, whose four deputies appear to have been ordered to stand down and allow the shooting to unfold in order to achieve a higher body count (for political gain).

Astonishing, CNN is accidentally confirming a shocking revelation that adds additional evidence to this conspiracy. In a Feb. 23, 2018 story by the fake news propagandist known as Jake Tapper, CNN admits that four Broward County sheriff’s deputies stood by and watched the shooting take place, refusing to enter the building and stop the shooter.

As Tapper writes:
When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff’s deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

…Some Coral Springs police were stunned and upset that the four original Broward County Sheriff’s deputies who were first on the scene did not appear to join them as they entered the school, Coral Springs sources tell CNN.

Until this report, we were all aware that one deputy stood by and did nothing while the shooting took place, but this report from CNN raises that number to four, pointing to the likelihood that this was a coordinated stand down order.

Who gave the order?

Most likely the deputies’ boss: An anti-gun sheriff, registered as a Democrat, who is said to be “best friends” with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the same Clintonista operative who helped engineer numerous election conspiracies of fraud, destruction of evidence and lying to the government. Schultz, in case you didn’t remember, is that same Democrat operative who threatened the U.S. Capitol Police with “consequences” for refusing to turn over a laptop that contained incriminating evidence against Imran Awan, a foreign national widely outed for involvement in data theft and national security breaches.

As The Daily Caller reports:
Imran Awan, his wife, his two brothers Abid and Jamal, and a friend all worked as IT aides for dozens of Democratic members of Congress. Shortly after WikiLeaks published the Democratic National Committee’s emails and during the lead up to the 2016 election, investigators discovered indications that they were using a server “for nefarious purposes” and “could be reading and/or removing information,” according to a briefing. They were banned from the House network in February 2017, but Wasserman Schultz, a Democrat from Florida, refused to fire Awan.

Sheriff Scott Israel outed as an anti-gun Democrat operative
Sheriff Scott Israel, the sheriff of Broward County where the shooting took place, is widely known to be an anti-gun Democrat operative. For example, during a recent Sean Hannity broadcast entitled “Defending Our Schools,” aired Feb. 22, 2018, a caller outed Israel for colluding with Democrat anti-gun schemers, saying:
I graduated from Stoneman-Douglas in 2004, … the sheriff of my county down here Scott Israel is a politician.

He’s a Leftist. He is best friends with Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Ted Deutch. He’s not a sheriff. So when people look at our community now because it’s been thrust into the spotlight and they talk about the sheriff’s department, let’s just be real clear… he is not a sheriff, he’s a politician who masquerades behind a badge. The first thing out of his mouth last week… was gun control. (Unintelligible)… Didn’t say hi to our governor at the press conference, and talked about defeating people who take money from the NRA.

Scott Israel, it turns out, was accused of public corruption long before this shooting.

As reported by the Florida Sun Sentinel:
Since winning one of the most powerful elected posts in Broward, Sheriff Scott Israel has hired from the ranks of his political supporters, building a community outreach wing his critics say doubles as a re-election team… A log of employees hired by the sheriff shows 10 workers were hired since 2013 into “outreach” roles, their salaries totalling $634,479… Israel’s opponents say he’s built a publicly funded political machine, paying back supporters with jobs and using them to keep him in office. They say the money could be better spent, particularly after the sheriff complained about not having enough funding to secure the county courthouse, where a murder suspect recently escaped.

In other words, Sheriff Scott Israel uses taxpayer money to fund his own political re-election “outreach” scheme, shoring up his public image while failing to invest financial resources on stopping murderers.

And what better way to steal the limelight for a re-election than to order a “stand down” during a school shooting, then claim to be the savior?

“What have I done differently than Don Shula or Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King, Ghandi?” Israel asked critics, according to the Sun Sentinel.

Sheriff Israel’s department had logged 20 calls on the school shooter before the mass murder event… they KNEW he was about to commit murder

Adding to the damning evidence against Sheriff Israel, his department had received 20 calls warning about Nikolas Cruz before he carried out the mass shooting. Yet Israel’s office did nothing. Were they ordered to stand down and let the massacre take place, then ordered to allow the shooting to be carried out, without interference?

“Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said Friday that his office found that it had received approximately 20 calls related to Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old suspected of carrying out Florida’s deadliest high school shooting that left 17 people dead,” reports The Washington Examiner:

CNN reported that the sheriff’s department had been called to Cruz’s house more than 30 times since 2010. According to one incident report unearthed by the news network, professionals and officers wrote that Cruz suffers from mental illness and had mentioned he was interested in purchasing a gun.

Even more alarmingly, Israel’s office had been specifically warned that Cruz was poised to carry out a mass shooting. As reported by Zero Hedge:

…the most serious warning came on November 30, 2017, when a caller located in Massachusetts advised that Cruz was collecting knives and was likely to conduct a school shooting. The caller was concerned Cruz would kill himself and “be a school shooter in the making.” They believed that Cruz’s weapons were kept at a friend’s house.

Listen the Sheriff Scott Israel regurgitate Democrat anti-gun talking points in this Laura Loomer video clip (note, the audio is very poor quality):

Here’s the picture that’s shaping up of a dark conspiracy to sacrifice innocent children in order to target the Second Amendment.

What does this all mean?

Increasingly, it looks like the school shooting massacre was allowed to take place by Scott Israel, making sure the disturbed, deranged teen was never arrested or even detained for a mental health evaluation. They knew he would eventually pop off on a deadly rampage, and they did nothing to stop it.

Once the shooting began, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that Israel’s deputies were ordered to stand down, making sure the shooter had sufficient time to achieve a high enough body count that would catapult Scott Israel into the national spotlight, gaining him political points while launching a new, nationwide anti-gun initiative that has always been the “end game” goal of Democrat operatives like Obama, Clinton and Schultz.

Consider: Who gains from this mass shooting? Who had the motive?

Clearly, the Democrats raked in huge gains. Not only did they immediately start fundraising off the tragedy, they are also exploiting the dead and traumatized children as weapons to target their political enemies (conservatives and the NRA). CNN also chalked up huge gains from the event, gaining a huge, nationwide audience for its 100% fake, staged “town hall” circus that looked more like an episode of Jerry Springer than anything resembling a serious news event.

Even more importantly, the school shooting shifted the news narrative away from the uncovering of criminal conspiracies involving FBI traitors James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and other deep state operatives who are being increasingly outed by congressional investigations.

None of this would have been possible of even one of Israel’s deputies had entered the school and engaged Nikolas Cruz with return fire. Such an action — for which these deputies are well trained, by the way — would have immediately halted the casualties and ended the bloodshed. Yet there wasn’t a single Broward County sheriff’s deputy who entered the building during the mass shooting.

They literally stood by and did nothing while gunshots rang out and children were slaughtered.

That this happened is not in dispute. Even the Coral Springs police — who rushed to the scene, entered the building and ended the slaughter — are fully aware that Sheriff Israel and his deputies were deliberately engaged in what can only be called “dereliction of duty.” As reported by CNN, authored by none other than Jake Tapper:

The resentment among Coral Springs officials toward Broward County officials about what they perceived to be a dereliction of duty may have reached a boiling point at a vigil the night of February 15, where, in front of dozens of others, Coral Springs City Manager Mike Goodrum confronted Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel. A source familiar with the conversation tells CNN that Goodrum was upset that the Broward deputies had remained outside the school while kids inside could have been bleeding out, among other reasons.

“Instead of rushing in, several Broward sheriff’s deputies waited outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School while a killer gunned down schoolchildren, according to other officers on the scene,” reports The Sun Sentinel. “In all, at least three deputies waited outside, including School Resource Officer Scot Peterson, police sources told the Sun Sentinel.”

My assessment as an award-winning independent journalist and investigator

In my assessment, none of this was an accident. There are no coincidences in the “no holds barred” bloodsport of politics and gun control. The Left learned very well from Sandy Hook that if enough children are murdered, Democrats can gain tremendous traction on their anti-Second Amendment narrative. Have no doubt that Democrats would easily sacrifice a few dozen children of it means winning the 2018 mid-terms and impeaching President Trump.

Here’s what I believe actually happened:

1. Over the last two years, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel became aware of a deranged teen and his threats to carry out mass murder, then realized he could exploit the situation for his own political gain.
2. In order to exploit the situation, when the mass shooting event began, Israel ordered his deputies to stand down, ensuring a large body count. His deputies stood by and intentionally did nothing. The shooting would have been even worse if not for the Coral Springs Police who rushed to the scene, breached the building and halted the violence.
3. Immediately after the mass shooting took place, Scott Israel sought out the TV cameras and claimed credit for halting the shooting, immediately framing himself as a “savior” character — remember, he likens himself to Abraham Lincoln — while calling for anti-gun legislation to “save the children.” (Wow, what a God-like savior!)
4. His actions also gain major points with his Democrat operative friends like Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who has been at the center of every major political scam and scandal over the last two years, including the DNC’s fraudulent vote rigging against Bernie Sanders.
It’s clear to me that Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel is an anti-gun political hack, a Democrat operative, a schemer and a liar. One thing I’ve learned over all the years of working as an award-winning independent journalist and investigator is that Democrats will easily sacrifice children to achieve sufficient political gain. In exactly the same way that Eric Holder and Barack Obama ran Operation Fast & Furious to have Americans murdered in the quest for gun control, it looks like Sheriff Scott Israel oversaw the “allowed mass killing” of schoolchildren in Florida in order to elevate his own fame and fortune while furthering his political party’s gun control agenda, built on the dead bodies of innocent children who didn’t have to die that day… if only just one of Israel’s deputies would have entered the building and engaged the killer.

That’s why today, I call on President Trump to initiate a federal investigation into Sheriff Scott Israel’s department to determine why his deputies were ordered to stand down while this shooting was under way. There’s no question in my mind that any sufficiently rigorous investigation will turn up convincing evidence that Sheriff Israel was complicit in the deaths of those high school children and teachers who were killed.

And yes, for the record, I am claiming that Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel is complicit in the deaths of those children. The evidence is obvious, and the pattern is clear. This is the way Democrats routinely operate to achieve their political goals or cover their tracks. (Yes, Seth Rich was murdered by DNC operatives.)

Hervé
26th February 2018, 16:41
Compilation video: https://vimeo.com/257417841



https://vimeo.com/257417841

Noelle
26th February 2018, 17:19
The following video suggests three shooters, not one. It was shared this morning on Twitter by intheMatrix@intheMatrixxx (https://twitter.com/intheMatrixxx/status/968170983436816390)with instructions to archive it because it matches a teacher's account of what happened.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFd8UalQWs&feature=youtu.be

ThePythonicCow
26th February 2018, 17:22
This in from Mike Adams at Natural News, received Yesterday pm UK time.:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-02-23-florida-mass-shooting-allowed-four-deputies-stood-down-sheriff-israel-democrat-anti-gun.html

BOMBSHELL: Florida mass shooting was ALLOWED to happen: Four deputies stood down, led by egomaniacal sheriff exposed as an anti-gun Democrat operative seeking fame

Friday, February 23, 2018 by: Mike Adams

...
My assessment as an award-winning independent journalist and investigator

In my assessment, none of this was an accident. There are no coincidences in the “no holds barred” bloodsport of politics and gun control. The Left learned very well from Sandy Hook that if enough children are murdered, Democrats can gain tremendous traction on their anti-Second Amendment narrative. Have no doubt that Democrats would easily sacrifice a few dozen children of it means winning the 2018 mid-terms and impeaching President Trump.

Here’s what I believe actually happened:

1. Over the last two years, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel became aware of a deranged teen and his threats to carry out mass murder, then realized he could exploit the situation for his own political gain.
2. In order to exploit the situation, when the mass shooting event began, Israel ordered his deputies to stand down, ensuring a large body count. His deputies stood by and intentionally did nothing. The shooting would have been even worse if not for the Coral Springs Police who rushed to the scene, breached the building and halted the violence.
3. Immediately after the mass shooting took place, Scott Israel sought out the TV cameras and claimed credit for halting the shooting, immediately framing himself as a “savior” character — remember, he likens himself to Abraham Lincoln — while calling for anti-gun legislation to “save the children.” (Wow, what a God-like savior!)
4. His actions also gain major points with his Democrat operative friends like Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who has been at the center of every major political scam and scandal over the last two years, including the DNC’s fraudulent vote rigging against Bernie Sanders.
It’s clear to me that Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel is an anti-gun political hack, a Democrat operative, a schemer and a liar.
I have had, and continue to have, second thoughts about Mike Adams.

My hunch here, way-out-on-the-end-of-the-twig-speculation as Joseph P. Farrell would say, is that Mike Adams, and others in the media who are pushing this Sheriff Israel controversy, have been tasked with helping to construct a limited hangout here.

My hunch is that Stacy Lippel's testimony, to ABC's Good Morning America, as shown in Post #168, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018&p=1210470&viewfull=1#post1210470), is key testimony, and that the real reason that police showed up late, delayed on going in when they did show up, and held back medics from going in, is that because it wasn't just the accused Nikolaus Cruz who was in there shooting (if he even was shooting ... he's a highly compromised person at this time, by pharmaceuticals and a difficult life, perhaps even an MkUltra victim, hearing voices), but that it was also in addition or instead one or two militarized, up armored, trained, killers. Once the crime scene was cleaned up of some of the tactical weapons and armor, as reported by bluestflame above in Post #170 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018&p=1210481&viewfull=1#post1210481), then the county police and medics could go in.

Rather than let the focus go to who really was doing the killing, my hunch is that this limited hangout is focusing on excoriating Broward County Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson for not going in, and hammering on Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel for explanations of the unconfirmed reports that other officers delayed going in, and held back medics.

If I were a praying sort of person, I'd be praying for Stacy Lippel, the teacher who told Good Morning America that she saw someone "in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor", shooting a "barrage of bullets".

By feeding President Trump a controlled portion of this information, they (the one's controlling this operation) might even have incited Trump to use his twitter megaphone to support this limited hangout.

norman
26th February 2018, 17:34
Don't know about Mike Adams but I totally agree with the way this is being nailed onto a disturbed kid they were warned about in advance.

I still remember the kid who said he heard talk of more gun shots 30 minutes later, while he was waiting for his mum to pick him up at starbucks. I have no doubt it was done by pro shooters, I'm more than half convinced that the hold up was while they identified the witnesses who had to be killed in an identical way so that they would become part of the body count.


edit:

Here's a thing.. On that body bag people say they carried out of there.

What if someone at the school had a gun and took down one of the pro shooters with it ?

norman
26th February 2018, 18:49
I just googled the exact title of this thread. Normally that would put the Avalon link right at the top of the results.

The entire first page of results is links to mainstream news sites + one to wikipedia.

Says it all, really.

Cidersomerset
26th February 2018, 18:51
David Hogg: We Will Outlive The NRA | Morning Joe | MSNBC...In this interview
he comes over as confident, eloquent and well briefed as said before,and to be fair
I admire that especially in young activists. I also think this is part of a bigger
agenda or at least taken over and 'piggy backed' off as I said in a previous post.

Although others may want to use this for greater purposes unless more comes
out the young adults involved should be dealt with sensitively as we discuss this
tragedy and its 'fallout', even if we suspect there maybe more to some of them
than meets the eye as mentioned in previous posts by me as well....

The attack on the 1st & 2nd amendments are coming from more powerfull forces
within the Deep state and mainstream media.

kdBt3MmGVaE
Published on 26 Feb 2018
Senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, David Hogg, discusses creating a
grassroots movement, his reaction to being called a crisis actor by conspiracy
theorists and why he advocates for sensible gun reform.

====================================================
====================================================

Mainstream bias this is the only segment posted by NBC from the over 1 hour
Q & A with the state governers . Washington Gov. Jay Inslee knows perfectly
what the President is suggesting and totally makes a political point....

Governor Jay Inslee Confronts President Donald Trump: Our Teachers Don’t Want To Be Armed | NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keU4w3VhgGM
Published on 26 Feb 2018
Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) criticized President Trump's focus on arming
teachers on Feb. 26, saying that teachers "don't want to do that."

Bob
26th February 2018, 18:53
I just googled the exact title of this thread. Normally that would put the Avalon link right at the top of the results.

The entire first page of results is links to mainstream news sites + one to wikipedia.

Says it all, really.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mass+Shooting+in+Parkland%2C+Florida%2C+High+School%3A+14+Feb+2018%22&oq=%22Mass+Shooting+in+Parkland%2C+Florida%2C+High+School%3A+14+Feb+2018%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.1577j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I'll try that - the link above is the exact search parameter inserted into Chrome Explorer

---> one reply comes up on the search; sending one to "Project Avalon" on the Google Search (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018).. Maybe because my DNS server is set to 8.8.8.8 which is the Google DNS ..

No MSM links appear in the list.

ThePythonicCow
26th February 2018, 19:13
I just googled the exact title of this thread. Normally that would put the Avalon link right at the top of the results.

The entire first page of results is links to mainstream news sites + one to wikipedia.

Says it all, really.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mass+Shooting+in+Parkland%2C+Florida%2C+High+School%3A+14+Feb+2018%22&oq=%22Mass+Shooting+in+Parkland%2C+Florida%2C+High+School%3A+14+Feb+2018%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.1577j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I'll try that - the link above is the exact search parameter inserted into Chrome Explorer

---> one reply comes up on the search; sending one to "Project Avalon" on the Google Search (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018).. Maybe because my DNS server is set to 8.8.8.8 which is the Google DNS ..

No MSM links appear in the list.

If I search on Google for this thread's title, without putting the title in quotes, I get pages and pages of mainstream results.

If I search on Google for this thread's title, within "quotation marks", I get just one search result - this thread.

Bob
26th February 2018, 19:23
I always use "quotes" around a subject if I want exactly that phrase to be searched for. Makes sense what Norman found I would believe then if he did that without quotes.


Posted by norman
I just googled the exact title of this thread.

Michelle Marie
26th February 2018, 20:00
David Hogg: We Will Outlive The NRA | Morning Joe | MSNBC...In this interview
he comes over as confident, eloquent and well briefed as said before,and to be fair
I admire that especially in young activists. I also think this is part of a bigger
agenda or at least taken over and 'piggy backed' off as I said in a previous post.

Although others may want to use this for greater purposes unless more comes
out the young adults involved should be dealt with sensitively as we discuss this
tragedy and its 'fallout', even if we suspect there maybe more to some of them
than meets the eye as mentioned in previous posts by me as well....

The attack on the 1st & 2nd amendments are coming from more powerfull forces
within the Deep state and mainstream media.

kdBt3MmGVaE
Published on 26 Feb 2018
Senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, David Hogg, discusses creating a
grassroots movement, his reaction to being called a crisis actor by conspiracy
theorists and why he advocates for sensible gun reform.

There are many unwitting pawns and minions used by agenda-driven deceivers. They [pawns and minions] sometimes are blinded by their egos which are ignited by the flames of fame and glory. They have fallen into traps; and only a :star:spark of conscience :star:is needed to wake them up.

We have heard many stories of people this has happened to. My conscience would not let me participate in the flu vaccine push in public school, so I quit. I think we all get ethical dilemmas to test our soul's resolve to stand firm in the truth.

I watched students fall into traps of programming and inculcation when I was a teacher. I trust their Inner Light will spark a flame one day, and they, too, will turn around. I have much compassion for those who have been trapped. The biggest one is having to provide money to one's family. That's a hard wall to overcome. Pensions long hard worked for; feeling like you have to go along and shut up. It takes a huge act of courage to give that up and only follow the voice of conscience. It takes monumental Faith.

People are doing it, though. Truth warriors endure credibility attacks, financial persecution, electronic targeting, physical attacks, and all sorts of things--we all see it. Most of us are right there in the thick of it if we're on this forum.

It is good that you pointed out that this kid is being used [part of a bigger agenda and 'piggy-backed.']. He can overcome that in time. There's really no other choice in the end.

Inner strength to all Truth Warriors! :heart:
MM :sun:

KiwiElf
26th February 2018, 20:06
More on the corruption of the Broward County School Sheriff Operations (click a few times to enlarge - this is a big graphic) - ties in with Tintin Quarantino's post #174 on the previous page.

37226

Crossposted from the "Q" thread

Michelle Marie
26th February 2018, 20:11
More on the corruption of the Broward County School Sheriff Operations (click a few times to enlarge - this is a big graphic) - ties in with Tintin Quarantino's post #174 on the previous page.

37226

Crossposted from the "Q" thread

That picture with the Sheriff and Hillary Clinton practically tells a story by itself.

Some pictures are worth a thousand words; this one is worth an encyclopedia.

En-psycho-Pedio (?) file, maybe.

Not that there isn't evidence mounting already in this direction. Just saying...

MM

KiwiElf
26th February 2018, 20:30
More people are waking up to this simple fact (speaking of a picture being worth a thousand words... ;))

Tell-LIE-vision :)

37227

1948: Value of television as a mass control medium is fully realised.

Foxie Loxie
26th February 2018, 21:06
On a comical note....I remember as a small child that in the church we attended the Preacher, from the pulpit, said it was a "sin" to own a television as it was the eye of the Devil!! :facepalm: On second thought....maybe he was right?! :ROFL:

Tintin
26th February 2018, 22:03
Compilation video: https://vimeo.com/257417841



https://vimeo.com/257417841

Wow. When Alexa Miednik is talking notice how the interviewer attempts to shift the narrative, and wilfully try and confuse. She's already said that she's spoken to him whilst walking next to him, while he isn't shooting, anyone, anywhere with anything.

And the gurney camera shot?! Indeed, where is the 'suspect'? That's probably the smallest suspect in the world, or they are wearing a cloaking device.

Shame that whoever did the subtitles screwed up on David Hogg's first name - probably in a rush, or careless with the excitement (sic). And we're already familiar with the fluffed lines.

Very sorry that anybody died in this, and they very sadly did. But, this appalling aftermath, pre-scripted awfulness really is utterly tasteless and all those coerced or even willing participants in the agenda behind this 'drill' should be ashamed.

bluestflame
26th February 2018, 22:12
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k2BX1lr6fpkb/
PARKLAND POLITIZATION AND FAILURE: AN INTERVIEW WITH VETERAN AND SECURITY EXPERT JOHN BOUCHELL

Tracy Beanz


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/967983416841940992/q9D9boiu?format=jpg&name=600x314

Caliban
27th February 2018, 01:05
Boy, David Hogg really gets around. Lots of talk about drills. And David Hogg. Did I mention David Hogg?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f0e_1519577797

That kid in the beginning says "...until our parents called us... we didn't believe it was real."

BTW, (vis a vis Mike Adams et al.) I don't think we should think of Left and Right anymore. You really think "leftist" groups are behind this? I think...it goes a lit-tle beyond that... Besides real leftists faded out around '72.

Flash
27th February 2018, 01:21
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k2BX1lr6fpkb/
PARKLAND POLITIZATION AND FAILURE: AN INTERVIEW WITH VETERAN AND SECURITY EXPERT JOHN BOUCHELL

Tracy Beanz


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/967983416841940992/q9D9boiu?format=jpg&name=600x314

Excellent interview

Bill Ryan
27th February 2018, 02:19
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k2BX1lr6fpkb/
PARKLAND POLITIZATION AND FAILURE: AN INTERVIEW WITH VETERAN AND SECURITY EXPERT JOHN BOUCHELL

Tracy Beanz


Excellent interview

Yes, it is. I'd sure love to hear John Bouchell's view on Sandy Hook.

Gemma13
27th February 2018, 05:53
Yes, excellent interview with John Bouchell :thumbsup:

------------------------------------------------------

Not sure if I've missed postings about Sheriff Israel and his Deputy Hamze, but as I think it is an important piece in all of this controversy I will post anyway. This Sheriff just gets more and more suspicious the deeper one looks :(

And I'm just gonna say it: If you were a radical Islamist group wanting to take over the world you would definitely be in favour of taking away citizen rights to guns. Here's a hypothetical: A cleverly camouflaged "hidden in plain sight" Islamic Extremist group, (who have infiltrated and proliferated throughout the U.S.), strategized and coordinated a drill at the school, found a mentally unstable student for the patsy, and staged a killing spree of children to help an agenda to disarm U.S. citizens. Maybe more dot connecting going on behind the scenes may uncover links to this hypothesis with other U.S. shooting sprees.

The following articles are "eye openers" to say the least!

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/259552/cair-leader-nezar-hamze-now-deputy-sheriff-joe-kaufman
24 JULY 2015 (Past proves Future??)

SNIPPETS

During his talk, Sheriff Israel said of Hamze that he was a “friend” and a “phenomenal Deputy Sheriff.” He said that Hamze was with him because they are “on the same mission,” that they are “like-minded,” and because, “as a man who studies Islam and as a Muslim, he’s gonna find out information that we can’t. He’s gonna be able to bring information back to the community and take information from the community and bring to us.”

Can Sheriff Israel, the first Jewish Sheriff in Broward County, seriously believe that Nezar Hamze – a man who has spent years as a leader of a fanatic Muslim organization; a man who repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas when given numerous chances; a man who tried to make excuses for his murderer cousin, after his cousin had willfully ran over a woman, dragged her body for several miles, and then tried to flee the country – should serve as a Deputy Sheriff in one of the most prominent Sheriff’s offices in the nation?!!

By employing Nezar Hamze, Sheriff Scott Israel has compromised not only the Broward Sheriff’s office, but the security of the entire county and by extension U.S. national security. And with the intelligence information made available to someone in Hamze’s position and the misleading information Hamze has exhibited he is capable of providing, who knows how much damage this could cause!

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/259634/sheriff-israel-embraces-deputy-hamas-joe-kaufman
31 JULY 2015 (Past proves future??)


So what the Sheriff was saying is that, if a candidate for Deputy Sheriff is a leader of a group that is largely associated with a terrorist organization, such as Hamas – Hamas, a group incidentally that Hamze has repeatedly refused to denounce – but is not involved in the terrorist organization itself, he is still a potential candidate for the job.

At one point, Sheriff Israel said that the issue of CAIR shouldn’t even be part of the discussion regarding Hamze. He stated, “[T]his isn’t about CAIR. This isn’t about any organization. This is about the Broward County Sheriff’s Office and the citizens of Broward County.”

[…]

Sheriff Israel told the radio hostess that he “absolutely” knows the difference between radical Islam and ordinary Muslims, but nothing could be further from the truth.

In 2015 alone, Israel has been photographed with Zakkout; with Maulana Shafayat Mohamed who has been thrown off different Broward County boards for his bigotry against homosexuals; with attorney Khurrum Wahid who represents high-profile al-Qaeda terrorists and has himself been placed on a terror watch list; and with Abdur Rahman al-Ghani who is quoted as saying “Zionist/Israelis… are demonic and the most evil on earth” and “Allah has decreed we will overtake the world in numbers” and posted on Facebook that the CIA should be “wiped-out.”

On the radio show, Sheriff Israel also took the opportunity to play the ‘race card.’ He said that “as Sheriff, I have to be reflective of Broward County… We don’t discriminate. As a Jew, I don’t want to be discriminated against. We’re a color-blind organization. We make sure we treat people with dignity and respect.”

[…]

Finally, during the interview, Sheriff Israel tried to shift potential blame for the hiring of Hamze to the previous Sheriff, Al Lamberti. At the beginning of the interview, he stated, “Deputy Hamze – this is very important – was first hired as a police cadet by former Sheriff Al Lamberti. He met this guy. He hired him. He paid for him to go through the police academy up in Palm Beach County.” And later, he stated, “And the Sheriff that I defeated brought him to the Broward Sheriff’s Office, so it wasn’t somebody that we went out and recruited.”

However, Sheriff Israel admitted, during the interview, that he personally hired Hamze to be Deputy Sheriff. He stated, “He Graduated from the police academy and applied for the Broward Sheriff’s Office. At the time he applied for the Sheriff’s Office, I had soundly defeated Lamberti; I was the Sheriff of Broward County, and I dealt with the application.” He later stated, “I approved his hiring.”

KiwiElf
27th February 2018, 06:02
Something stinks to high heaven with this - I've just mentioned it on the thread regarding recent YouTube bans, but it's more than that, it's social media as well; basically anyone who challenges the David Hogg (I see he's scheduled to appear on Ellen :facepalm:)/CNN/Sheriff Israel's [false] narrative is getting "terminated" from these platforms.

(This seems to be even more "important" than banning "Q" related topics!).

WHY? WHAT are they hiding?:sherlock:

ThePythonicCow
27th February 2018, 06:17
WHY? WHAT are they hiding?
My current guess is that they are hiding that this op used an abused, perhaps MkUltra'd, child as the patsy for an operation that used trained killer(s) to take a drill live, and to kill some of the students and teachers. They are also hiding other more serious inconsistencies in the narrative, by getting many of those taking a second look at this event overly focused on whether David Hogg is credible.

Some of their motives that I'd guess are behind this:

Further drive divisions along political and preferred news media lines.
Stir the gun debate again, a reliable way to further drive the above mentioned divisions.
Further refine their ability to surveil and control, overtly and covertly, the alternative online media.
"Fix" the FBI by giving them more authority to imprison people based on social media posts.
Distract from other more serious matters (such as the collapse of the Trump-Russia-Collusion narrative?)
Drive out some of the more dangerous anti-globalist secondary Twitter/Facebook/Youtube channels.
Justify more surveillance of civilians, especially getting the young accustomed to heightened "security."

Cidersomerset
27th February 2018, 07:32
The first half of this segment is about the Florida shooting and related topics much
of which has been discussed but maybe of interest, then they answer Q & A
questions on various topics including Florida again no new 'Q' posts in this segment.


q JEROME CORSI #QAnon ANALYSIS (2-26-18)
(P2) QAnon NEWS! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

_ue-m0deZJ8

Published on 26 Feb 2018

bluestflame
27th February 2018, 07:47
https://www.bitchute.com/video/k2BX1lr6fpkb/
PARKLAND POLITIZATION AND FAILURE: AN INTERVIEW WITH VETERAN AND SECURITY EXPERT JOHN BOUCHELL

Tracy Beanz


Excellent interview

Yes, it is. I'd sure love to hear John Bouchell's view on Sandy Hook.

Maybe you could arrange an interview with him Bill , i hear he's looking at unretiring himself (is that a word? )

bluestflame
27th February 2018, 08:04
dunno if already posted http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/26/fl-ag-bondi-folks-broward-county-sheriffs-department-not-honest/

FL AG Bondi: ‘Some Folks’ in Broward County Sheriff’s Department ‘Were Not Honest With Me’



by PAM KEY26 Feb 2018703

Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi said members of the Broward County Sheriff’s Department were not honest about why more deputies reportedly failed to enter the building and engage with the shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Bondi said, “I know a lot more than you all do now, so all I’m going to say is, yes, I believe there needs to be a full investigation. I don’t think some people were honest and we’re going to investigate this situation in Florida, and the right thing will be done.”

Steve Doocy asked, “Was there a stand-down order?”

Bondi replied, “I can’t talk about that.”

When asked if there was more than one officer at the school who did not enter, Bondi said,”That’s what we are hearing, and I can tell you I believe some folks in that department were not honest with me, nor were they honest with the governor. So there is going to be a full investigation into what really went on. Right now what I’m focused on is working with these students and going forward.”

When asked why they would not be honest, Bondi said, “Well, if they were there and didn’t want people to know they were there, that could have been it. But I’m not going to discuss further.”


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Michelle Marie
27th February 2018, 10:01
dunno if already posted http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/26/fl-ag-bondi-folks-broward-county-sheriffs-department-not-honest/

FL AG Bondi: ‘Some Folks’ in Broward County Sheriff’s Department ‘Were Not Honest With Me’



by PAM KEY26 Feb 2018703

Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi said members of the Broward County Sheriff’s Department were not honest about why more deputies reportedly failed to enter the building and engage with the shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Bondi said, “I know a lot more than you all do now, so all I’m going to say is, yes, I believe there needs to be a full investigation. I don’t think some people were honest and we’re going to investigate this situation in Florida, and the right thing will be done.”

Steve Doocy asked, “Was there a stand-down order?”

Bondi replied, “I can’t talk about that.”

When asked if there was more than one officer at the school who did not enter, Bondi said,”That’s what we are hearing, and I can tell you I believe some folks in that department were not honest with me, nor were they honest with the governor. So there is going to be a full investigation into what really went on. Right now what I’m focused on is working with these students and going forward.”

When asked why they would not be honest, Bondi said, “Well, if they were there and didn’t want people to know they were there, that could have been it. But I’m not going to discuss further.”


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Interesting.

Pam Bondi. --- She's on the list.

I would definitely keep this list in mind while connecting the dots on this topic.

THE LIST -- Broward County

The CIA - FBI child sex trafficking ring "same people going after Trump"
Baby sales to embassies with fake medical documents and church dossiers

* Eric Holder
* James Comey
* CNN Operative Art Harris
* Hillary Clinton
* Mark Orubial
* FL - Pam Bondi
* former FL Governor Charlie Crist
* Scott W. Rothstein
* Jeffrey Epstein
* Gloria Allred
* Michael Kaplan - FL judge
* Alternative Biofuels
* John Regan
* Jeremiah Regan

"Broward County, home of Debbie Wasserman Schultz"
* Obama
* Mike Pence
* Pam Bondi
* CIA & FBI
* Scott W. Rothstein
* Jeffrey Epstein
* Gloria Allred
*******CNN*******

Related videos and original list from this post: Link to post 2828
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-&p=1210076&viewfull=1#post1210076

Timothy Holmseth's letter to AG Jeff Sessions regarding Mike Pence and Pam Bondi

http://phibetaiota.net/2018/01/timothy-charles-holmseth-mike-pence-pam-bondi-in-willful-obvious-defiance-of-presidential-order-on-child-trafficking/

MM :sun:

bluestflame
27th February 2018, 12:05
as many predicted they are apparently going after the semi automatics as well

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons/article/2650087

House Democrats introduce bill prohibiting sale of semi-automatic weapons

by Melissa Quinn | Feb 26, 2018, 4:46 PM

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-057179bebe84e430a6d89374c2127944.jpg


House Democrats introduced a bill that prohibits the "sale, transfer, production, and importation" of semi-automatic rifles and pistols that can hold a detachable magazine, as well as semi-automatic rifles with a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green, File)


House Democrats have introduced a bill banning semi-automatic firearms in the wake of the Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla.

Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., announced Monday he is introducing the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018. More than 150 Democrats have signed on in support of the legislation, Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., said.


https://twitter.com/RepTedDeutch/status/968208166151483397?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fhouse-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons%2Farticle%2F2650087
"Today I joined @RepCicilline and 150+ of my colleagues to introduce the assault weapons ban. It’s time for Congress to listen to the will of a majority of Americans and pass sensible legislation to get these weapons of war off our streets. #NeverAgain #MSDStrong," Deutch tweeted.


The bill prohibits the “sale, transfer, production, and importation” of semi-automatic rifles and pistols that can hold a detachable magazine, as well as semi-automatic rifles with a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, the legislation bans the sale, transfer, production, and importation of semi-automatic shotguns with features such as a pistol grip or detachable stock, and ammunition feeding devices that can hold more than 10 rounds.

Cicilline’s legislation names 205 specific firearms that are prohibited, including the AK-47 and AR-15.

“Assault weapons were made for one purpose,” Cicilline said in a statement. “They are designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time. They do not belong in our communities.”

Deutch vowed during a CNN town hall last week to introduce a bill banning semi-automatic weapons.

The town hall featured students, teachers, and parents from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, and occurred one week after a gunman opened fire there.

Seventeen were killed and several were injured in the shooting.

Police said the shooter used an AR-15, and the incident has reignited the debate over stricter gun laws, including whether a ban on semi-automatic weapons is needed.

For comparision here's a new one on Port Arthur operation in Tasmania i had not read before i see a few parallels ( have firmly believed from the start it was engineered specifically to manufacture consent for much tougher gun control )

the weapon used was ALSO the Colt AR15, and a Belgian FN assault rifle

http://www.kerryhay.spiderweb.com.au/bryant.html


Sunday 28th April 1996 at Port Arthur.

Most Australians are only vaguely aware of the events that occurred on this day. We have been told that a gunman armed with a Colt AR15 semi automatic rifle fired 29 rounds inside the Broad Arrow Café at Port Arthur, killing 20 and wounding another 12 of the approximately 60 people inside the café. It is also stated that the killer fired seventeen shots, killing twelve and wounding another five victims in the first fifteen seconds. Most of the dead were headshot, and the killer fired from the right hip, not from sighted shots.

Tintin
27th February 2018, 13:29
Here's a neat and very ironically loaded blog from Jon Rappoport, received yesterday. Bang (pardoning the pun) on, as usual:

Guns: the one-size-fits-all solution is no solution

By Jon Rappoport, February 26th 2018

The novelist William Burroughs once wrote:

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military."

The overwhelming number of people who own guns in America aren't killers. Anyone can, with a little digging, discover where most of the guns crimes are happening---and that's where law-enforcement should focus their efforts. Trying to disarm the whole country is not only unworkable, it's targeting the wrong people.

A one-size-fits-all strategy is the work of bureaucrats in a tyranny.

Vaccinate everyone---despite the fact that, by definition, those who are vaccinated should be automatically protected from those "germ carriers" who aren't. And by the way, research shows that vaccinated people shed (spread) the viruses for which they've vaccinated.

Diagnose millions of people with a whole set of standardly defined mental disorders, despite the fact that every individual is unique and different. And by the way, there are NO defining diagnostic tests for ANY official mental disorder. No blood, saliva, urine tests. No brain scans. No genetic assays.

Educate millions and millions of schoolchildren in public government schools by programming them with the same set of "progressive" values, as if they're all identical automatons in need of mind control.

Carry out wall-to-wall surveillance on the whole population, as if that is the only way to spot a small number of terrorists.

Go to war against major segments of a whole country (e.g., Afghanistan), as if that is the only way to root out a small number of terrorists.

Instead of searching out and vigorously prosecuting mega-corporations (with long jail sentences for executives) who actually pollute and poison the soil, water, and air, assume that the business of America is business across the board, and ignore the "side effects."

And conversely, when the bureaucracy is rendered so thin it can't adequately screen and vet the huge number of immigrants rushing into America, promote a policy of open borders so everyone can come in (because "they're all good people")---thus reflecting the values taught to the young in government schools. And say this is the meaning of America.

Surveying this list and adding your own examples, you might conclude that entrenched centralized power is actively trying to destroy the country.

And then many people would think you've gone off the rails.

And magically, those are the same people who've been given a lifetime of indoctrination in the policy of one-size-fits-all, because such a policy is humane and good and serves a brighter future for all, for everyone, for the Collective.

Amen.

Tintin
27th February 2018, 13:59
At the risk of maybe appearing to be a ‘disciple’ of JR - not true, actually - he’s right on the money with his observations, and has many years’ experience in the investigatory field, not withstanding the fact that he also seems to possess a finely tuned and fully functioning BS detector..

When he says, as he does here, “Listen to the man” (to whom he is referring) then you better had.

For the record and so there is no blur here, or misunderstanding of my view of this whole atrocity: it is my view that this shooting spree was not the work of Nicolas Cruz, at all, or a 'lone nut' - the title of his piece may inadvertantly suggest that. However the factual data Jon provides here would attest to the ‘mental illness’ angle underpinning part of the agenda behind this recent atrocity as was most probably the case with Sandy Hoax.

Anyway, do please read below (Tintin Q)

World famous psychiatrist says: more psychiatric drug treatment means more mass shootings will happen

By Jon Rappoport, February 27th 2018

Listen to this man. You'd better listen.

His name is Peter Breggin. He is a world famous psychiatrist. He has been called the conscience of his profession.

Here is an excerpt from his bio:

"Peter R. Breggin MD is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and former Consultant at NIMH [National Institute of Mental Health] who has been called 'The Conscience of Psychiatry' for his many decades of successful efforts to reform the mental health field. His work provides the foundation for modern criticism of psychiatric diagnoses and drugs, and leads the way in promoting more caring and effective therapies. His research and educational projects have brought about major changes in the FDA-approved Full Prescribing Information or labels for dozens of antipsychotic and antidepressant drugs. He continues to education the public and professions about the tragic psychiatric drugging of America's children.""

"Dr. Breggin has authored dozens of scientific articles and more than twenty books, including medical books and the bestsellers Toxic Psychiatry and Talking Back to Prozac. Two more recent books are Medication Madness: The Role of Psychiatric Drugs in Cases of Violence, Suicide and Crime and Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and their Families."

"Dr. Breggin has unprecedented and unique knowledge about how the pharmaceutical industry too often commits fraud in researching and marketing psychiatric drugs. He has testified many times in malpractice, product liability and criminal cases, often in relation to adverse drug effects..."

Here is an explosive excerpt from Dr. Breggin's recent column at Mad In America: "Psychiatrist Says: More Psychiatry Means More Shootings":

"In the early 1990s, a federal court appointed me to be the scientific expert for all of the combined product liability cases that were brought against Eli Lilly throughout the country concerning Prozac-induced violence, suicide and crime. Since then I have been involved in many cases in which judges and juries, and even prosecuting attorneys, have determined that psychiatric drugs have caused or substantially contributed to violence. For a lengthy list, see the Legal Section on my website [www.breggin.com]."

"In 2003/2004, I wrote a scientific review article about antidepressant-induced suicide, violence and mania which the FDA distributed to all its advisory committee members. This took place as the FDA Advisory Committee members prepared to review new warnings to be put in the Full Prescribing Information for all antidepressants."

"In my peer-reviewed paper [about the effects of antidepressants], I wrote: 'Mania with psychosis is the extreme end of a stimulant continuum that often begins with lesser degrees of insomnia, nervousness, anxiety, hyperactivity and irritability and then progresses toward more severe agitation, aggression, and varying degrees of mania."

"In words very close to and sometimes identical to mine, the FDA one year later required the manufacturers of every antidepressant to put the following observations in the Warnings section of the Full Prescribing Information:"

"'All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, and unusual changes in behavior, especially during the initial few months of a course of drug therapy, or at times of dose changes, either increases or decreases. The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric'."

"These adverse drug effects---including agitation, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, akathisia, and impulsivity---are an obvious prescription for violence. Akathisia, which I also described in my article, is a psychomotor agitation that is strongly associated with violence."

"The FDA Medication Guide for antidepressants warns clinicians, patients and families to be on the alert for the following:
• acting on dangerous impulses
• acting aggressive or violent
• feeling agitated, restless, angry or irritable
• other unusual changes in behavior or mood"

"This list (above) of antidepressant adverse effects from the Medication Guide should make clear that antidepressants can cause violence."

"The FDA also acknowledges the risk of both psychosis and aggression from the stimulant drugs used to treat ADHD..."

"In the study of violence reports to the FDA, any predisposition toward violence in the patients themselves was largely ruled out because some of the most violence-inducing drugs were not psychiatric drugs, and were being given to a more general population. Some of the violence-inducing drugs were antibiotics, including Lariam (Mefloquine), which Sgt. Robert Bales was taking when he slaughtered 16 helpless, innocent villagers in Afghanistan."

"[The authorities] do not foresee that the psychiatric strategy for treatment will sometimes lead to tragic outcomes like the school shootings. Nor do they realize that the overall evidence of harm from psychiatric drugs is infinitely greater than the evidence for good effects, as scientist Peter Gøtzsche has confirmed in Deadly Psychiatry and Organized Denial."

"Calling for more spending on mental health and on psychiatry will make matters worse, probably causing many more shootings than it prevents."

"Not only do psychiatric drugs add to the risk of violence, but psychiatric treatment lulls the various authorities and the family into believing that the patient is now 'under control' and 'less of a risk.' Even the patient may think the drugs are helping, and continue to take them right up to the moment of violence."

"Even when some of their patients signal with all their might that they are dangerous and need to be stopped, mental health providers are likely to give drugs, adding fuel to the heat of violent impulses, while assuming that their violence-inducing drugs will reduce the risk of serious aggression."

NOTE: DR. BREGGIN ISSUES THIS WARNING: "Most psychiatric drugs can cause withdrawal reactions, including life-threatening emotional and physical reactions. So it is not only dangerous to start psychiatric drugs, it can also be dangerous to stop them. Withdrawal from psychiatric drugs should be done carefully under experienced clinical supervision. Methods for safely withdrawing from psychiatric drugs are discussed in Dr. Breggin's book: Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and Their Families."

My comments: The tragedy of many mass shootings---many more than are highlighted by the press---is mirrored by the tragedy of psychiatric drug treatment.

Overwhelmingly, psychiatrists bury their heads in the sand, as they continue to dose patients with compounds that cause horrendous effects, including violence.

The psychiatric solution to mass shootings---more diagnosis and more drugs---becomes the cause for increased shootings.

Many mainstream reporters are aware of this, but they are constrained from telling the whole truth. Their media outlets are relying on pharmaceutical advertising for their very existence.

Legal authorities make it very difficult, if not impossible, to obtain information about which psychiatric drugs shooters were taking before they went on their rampages. Case in point, Sandy Hook, 2012---the (purported) killer, Adam Lanza, had been under psychiatric treatment. But an assistant attorney general for the state of Connecticut stated that the list of Lanza's meds would not be disclosed, because that "can cause a lot of people to stop taking their medications." Better for patients to keep taking those drugs---and then some of them will violently go off on innocent persons.

In conversations with attorneys over the years, I've been told that judges, police officers, and prosecutors avoid the "psychiatric drug issue." They don't want to touch it. After all, friendly psychiatrists are part of the legal system. They often testify at trials. Further, "medical experts" will lash out and go on the attack against law enforcement if an attempt is made to link a violent crime to the effects of psychiatric drugs. (Dr. Breggin has managed to break through this code of silence. He is one of the only psychiatrists who has been able to testify in court about the true effects of psychiatric drugs.)

At the federal level, lobbyists for drug companies are crawling all over Washington DC. They exert an astonishing level of influence on law makers and bureaucrats. The issue of psychiatric drug-induced murder is obviously not on the list of permitted issues for open and extensive discussion.

Then there is the FDA. This is the agency tasked with approving every medical drug as safe and effective before it can be released for public use. The FDA will never admit its decisions have been fueling mass shootings across America. The Agency views the pharmaceutical industry as its partner. Placing warnings on informational drug inserts (as described above by Dr. Breggin) easily escapes the attention of psychiatric patients. Doctors who prescribe the drugs may or may not read those warnings. Even if they do read them, the drugs are THE solution to "mental disorders." Very few doctors will seek other means of treatment.

The public is in the middle of a psychiatric plague. Learning the truth is the first step forward.

After that, we MUST preserve the right to refuse medication.

Freedom and life itself hang in the balance.

Cidersomerset
27th February 2018, 14:12
The mainstream are still keeping the hype going, the left and right media going
down partisan lines. CNN are still leading this and its Anderson Coopers turn to host
the young activists below. Fox and the others still have to many segments to
post going over the same material for the most part.The BBC article gives the
response of Officer Peterson


His attorney, Joseph DiRuzzo, said his client believed the gunfire was
coming from outside the school.He followed his training by taking cover and
prompting a lockdown, the lawyer said.



http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Florida school shooting: Officer Scot Peterson defends actions
1 hour ago..27/2/18

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/EAEB/production/_100193106_045100747.jpg
Scot Peterson resigned after being suspended

The armed school officer branded a coward by President Donald
Trump has defended his actions during the Marjory Stoneman
Douglas High School shooting.

Scot Peterson was outside the school when a gunman killed 17
people, but did not go inside as shots rang out.His attorney,
Joseph DiRuzzo, said his client believed the gunfire was coming
from outside the school.He followed his training by taking cover
and prompting a lockdown, the lawyer said.

Mr DiRuzzo said it was "patently untrue" that Mr Peterson was
a coward on the day.Mr Peterson, a veteran officer who had
been assigned to guard the high school, resigned last week
after his boss, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, suspended
him without pay.

Sheriff Israel said that footage from the scene had left him
"devastated" and "sick to my stomach".

read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43202800

=================================================

Shooting survivor: How many more have to die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUrgN1fFDig

Published on 26 Feb 2018
Siblings Lauren and David Hogg, who survived the Stoneman Douglas High School
shooting, voice their frustration with lawmakers and speak about their upcoming
return to school.

===================================================


Florida shooting revives Vegas survivors' trauma

CNN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdKAVUiV0-s
Published on 27 Feb 2018
The Florida school shooting brought back painful memories to survivors of the mass
shooting at a Las Vegas concert, which left 58 people dead. Survivors are sharing
how their lives changed with CNN's Sara Sidner.

Hervé
27th February 2018, 14:57
A while back, I wrote this in this thread:



...

Pre-planned patsy:

[...]

=========================================

In short, either he knew he was going to do it at some point in time or someone else did and set him up nicely with the posted comments under his name and the FBI "monitoring" it.

The interview of John Bouchell that bluestflame posted brings some credence to that perspective:



https://www.bitchute.com/video/k2BX1lr6fpkb/
PARKLAND POLITIZATION AND FAILURE: AN INTERVIEW WITH VETERAN AND SECURITY EXPERT JOHN BOUCHELL

Tracy Beanz


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/967983416841940992/q9D9boiu?format=jpg&name=600x314




... because, somewhere in that interview [around/after the 27-28 minutes mark], John mentions that Nick Cruz was bullied and somehow was the "Village's idiot" that was being picked on at that school.

Moreover, when told to do something, he would just do it as if under some hypnotic drug-induced trance like "throw a rock in that window" and he would just do that.

First, that casts strong doubts about the validity of Nick Cruz's "confession" and,

Second, his postings of threatening tweets and FB comments could just be someone suggesting it to him...

In other words, he might have been the perfect, pre-planned patsy and set up long in advance without him doing any shooting at all as the following interview suggests:



http://82.221.129.208/girlshootr.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/girlshooter.3gp)
Right click the picture to save the video (3GP format)

holistic1
27th February 2018, 16:22
Instead of trying to prove whether a shooting is a false flag, how about finding one that isn't. Check out henrymakow.com for his latest. Deester on Bens' site is a Pistol on false flags.

Caliban
27th February 2018, 16:26
She's returning to school less than 2 weeks after this ?? After 3 operations???


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parkland-shooting-victim-maddy-wilford-speaks-out-following-hospital-release-n851286

Wilford was transported to Broward Health by a team of first responders, including Ojeda, who said she “appeared deceased” and in shock when she was rescued. After being shaken by a Broward County sheriff's deputy, she showed signs of life and was given oxygen and fluids.
....
According to Nichiporenko, the hospital’s medical director of trauma services, Wilford sustained at least three large-caliber gunshot wounds during the shooting, in her chest, abdomen and right arm. She underwent three operations in 40 hours, including one to repair her shattered ribs, and will eventually require therapy for her right hand because of tendon damage.

So one week more or less to recover.

holistic1
27th February 2018, 17:45
http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2018/02/florida-school-false-flag.html

Cidersomerset
27th February 2018, 18:39
A post from the U'tube thread that is related to this and Alex expects action
against him very soon.....


Well I can only tell you from "our" side of the issue on You tube and
the "faux flaggers" that cause strikes against the channel as abuse or other. If they
get a flood of them, instead of investigating with humans, the AI has algorythm
picks, and they shut it down

That's sounds like what Alex says in the beginning of this segment that they
flagged a U'tube because of the key word ' crisis actor ' and have obviously
not read the context it is referred and the attack on the alt media is under the
'bullying umbrella' and more....

YouTube Has Now Frozen The Alex Jones Channel,
NEXT MOVE IS DELETION!

EOwWjoldNNc

Published on 27 Feb 2018
YouTube is coming after Alex Jones and Infowars like
never before. Support by spreading this video everywhere!
Re: YOUTUBE is cracking down as the Deep State empire is '3 striking' back: 23/1/18
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101853-YOUTUBE-is-cracking-down-as-the-Deep-State-empire-is-3-striking-back-23-1-18&p=1210823&viewfull=1#post1210823

Michelle Marie
27th February 2018, 19:02
as many predicted they are apparently going after the semi automatics as well

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons/article/2650087

House Democrats introduce bill prohibiting sale of semi-automatic weapons

by Melissa Quinn | Feb 26, 2018, 4:46 PM

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-057179bebe84e430a6d89374c2127944.jpg


House Democrats introduced a bill that prohibits the "sale, transfer, production, and importation" of semi-automatic rifles and pistols that can hold a detachable magazine, as well as semi-automatic rifles with a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green, File)


House Democrats have introduced a bill banning semi-automatic firearms in the wake of the Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla.

Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., announced Monday he is introducing the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018. More than 150 Democrats have signed on in support of the legislation, Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., said.


https://twitter.com/RepTedDeutch/status/968208166151483397?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fhouse-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons%2Farticle%2F2650087
"Today I joined @RepCicilline and 150+ of my colleagues to introduce the assault weapons ban. It’s time for Congress to listen to the will of a majority of Americans and pass sensible legislation to get these weapons of war off our streets. #NeverAgain #MSDStrong," Deutch tweeted.


The bill prohibits the “sale, transfer, production, and importation” of semi-automatic rifles and pistols that can hold a detachable magazine, as well as semi-automatic rifles with a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, the legislation bans the sale, transfer, production, and importation of semi-automatic shotguns with features such as a pistol grip or detachable stock, and ammunition feeding devices that can hold more than 10 rounds.

Cicilline’s legislation names 205 specific firearms that are prohibited, including the AK-47 and AR-15.

“Assault weapons were made for one purpose,” Cicilline said in a statement. “They are designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time. They do not belong in our communities.”

Deutch vowed during a CNN town hall last week to introduce a bill banning semi-automatic weapons.

The town hall featured students, teachers, and parents from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, and occurred one week after a gunman opened fire there.

Seventeen were killed and several were injured in the shooting.

Police said the shooter used an AR-15, and the incident has reignited the debate over stricter gun laws, including whether a ban on semi-automatic weapons is needed.

For comparision here's a new one on Port Arthur operation in Tasmania i had not read before i see a few parallels ( have firmly believed from the start it was engineered specifically to manufacture consent for much tougher gun control )

the weapon used was ALSO the Colt AR15, and a Belgian FN assault rifle

http://www.kerryhay.spiderweb.com.au/bryant.html


Sunday 28th April 1996 at Port Arthur.

Most Australians are only vaguely aware of the events that occurred on this day. We have been told that a gunman armed with a Colt AR15 semi automatic rifle fired 29 rounds inside the Broad Arrow Café at Port Arthur, killing 20 and wounding another 12 of the approximately 60 people inside the café. It is also stated that the killer fired seventeen shots, killing twelve and wounding another five victims in the first fifteen seconds. Most of the dead were headshot, and the killer fired from the right hip, not from sighted shots.

Laws have been weaponized.

Legal system compromised.

Media corrupt.

Conscience and Integrity RULE!

Nobody will follow illegal laws. This is the time of transformation.

Oust the abusers of power!!! Fired, dismissed, exposed, removed--GONE!

MM :sun:

norman
27th February 2018, 19:23
Zak, talking to Alex Jones on today's show, has a bit to say about the situation in Florida and the bigger picture:

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/wrxu0p6wmgskfacl7quyxa7eqste8i2u

Cidersomerset
27th February 2018, 20:07
There's a lot going on and Zach comes on to discuss some of them including Florida.
Syria and North Korea is still tense and this could all be part of the globalists fight
back to push Trump into a major conflict to deflect from them and get their agenda
going by default.....The attack on his U'tube base is a start. As usual Zach touches
on a lot of related topics.

ZACH, INFOWARS INTEL INSIDER - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

YeOFoudKqrY
Published on 27 Feb 2018
===================================================
===================================================

Alex and Steve discuss the current situation....

STEVE PIECZENIK: BREAKS DOWN CRAZY-TOWN INFO WAR! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYkM1R3PUBA
Published on 27 Feb 2018

====================================================
====================================================


" We have to have internet freedom".....

JEROME CORSI, PIECZENIK: DEBATE CURRENT INFO-WAR! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wRMEBqe0oE
Published on 27 Feb 2018

===================================================
===================================================



Jeff Sessions announces new task force targeting opioid manufacturers, distributors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCknreUe3Xk

Published on 27 Feb 2018
The attorney general rolled out the the Prescription Interdiction Litigation Task
Force as part of the DOJ's ongoing effort to combat the nation's opioid epidemic.

ThePythonicCow
27th February 2018, 20:15
Zak, talking to Alex Jones on today's show, has a bit to say about the situation in Florida and the bigger picture:
There are important connections here, between radicalized Saudi Arabia, benefiting from many decades of truly massive oil profits, and terrorism in the U.S.

Recall that Huma Abedin, Hillary's top aide, was raised in this radicalized Saudi Arabian culture. Her family had close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Recall that there were (over-stated/under-stated/obfuscated) connections between Saudi Arabia and 9/11.

Recall that the Las Vegas massacre supposedly came from just beneath the Saudi owned floors of the Mandalay Bay, and perhaps instead actually came from Saudi flown helicopters, with the subsequent photos of the alleged hotel room of the shooter (as I posted just a day or two ago) perhaps actually taken in a room in one of the Saudi owned floors, and that this massacre might have been cover for an attempted assassination by some of the Saudi royalty of others of the Saudi royalty.

Now, in the above audio of Zak on Alex Jones, we are reminded of strong connections between the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Florida) and Broward County Deputy Sheriff Nezar Hamze, who was also CEO and Regional Operations Director for the Florida chapter of CAIR. Broward County is already on our radar as one of the most corrupt counties in the U.S. ... that radar blip just got bigger.

If one tries to "follow the money", then the flow of money for Saudi Oil has been one of the Amazon rivers of money flow over the last half century. The crooks at the top of the control of that flow no longer bear allegiance to their Saudi or American nations of origin.

Michelle Marie
27th February 2018, 20:37
http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2018/02/florida-school-false-flag.html

"False flags are often linked to child abuse rings."

We have worked this out now with this shooting. (Maybe others did before, but I'm speaking for myself and what I consider the mass awakening.)
That's why the sudden upsurge in censorship.(naming names; calling games)
No matter who is playing what role, we will diligently search for the truth, AND find it.

***Heart intelligence from a place of integrity is more powerful than these squirming rats.***

MM :star:

Foxie Loxie
27th February 2018, 21:31
Follow the money....Follow the pedo's.:facepalm:

Bluegreen
27th February 2018, 22:00
Bombard's Body Language - Cruz In Court


https://vimeo.com/256813395

Cidersomerset
27th February 2018, 22:58
A quick scan through the news sites it seems that this tragedy is slowing down
as new events enter the news cycle. This is how the world works unfortunately.
Las Vegas, Texas church are memory though there are still shootings daily up
and down the country. I feel for the parents and children and its frustrating
that no one asks the questions that alt media ask in the mainstream that still
influences the majority of people. So unless anything new comes out this will
follow the usual path as its predecessors until the next one.

The difference is whether the activist side keeps going and the crackdown on
the web continues which is part of a bigger counter attack and agenda by the
deepstate it seems....See Info Wars & others....


Parkland students have ‘pricked the moral consciousness of our country’

Washington Post

PYOG4w5TEB4
Published on 27 Feb 2018
Senators describe the impact of students from Parkland, Florida
lobbying on Capitol Hill for stricter gun regulations on Feb. 27.
Subscribe to The Washington Post on YouTube: http://bit.ly/2qiJ4dy

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'The world is watching': Parkland community pushes for school safety bill

Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlL-mkAvDE
Published on 27 Feb 2018
Florida residents pushed leaders in Tallahassee to pass a school safety bill Feb. 27,
nearly two weeks after the Feb. 14 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla. Subscribe to The
Washington Post on YouTube: http://bit.ly/2qiJ4dy

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Ex-deputy responds to school shooting criticism
ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c3GexgwYrA
Published on 27 Feb 2018
Scot Peterson, former Broward County Sheriff's Office deputy, hired a lawyer to
respond to "unfounded criticism of his actions" during the mass shooting in
Parkland, Florida.

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Parkland Officer Speaking Out Following Scrutiny For Never Entering The Building |
NBC Nightly News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhd_q_9UqoA
Published on 27 Feb 2018
The attorney for armed campus officer Scott Peterson says that Peterson took up
a “tactical position” because he thought the shots were coming from outside the
building

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Parkland Parent: We Are Fighting For 'Fear Free Schools' | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khky_IvyhP8
Published on 27 Feb 2018
Shelbie Seys, who lives in Parkland and has small children, is a part of the Kids
First, Politics Second group that is fighting for gun control legislation in Florida.

Hervé
27th February 2018, 23:11
Zak, talking to Alex Jones on today's show, has a bit to say about the situation in Florida and the bigger picture:

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/wrxu0p6wmgskfacl7quyxa7eqste8i2u
Interesting:


Zak follows the Muslim Brotherhood (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood) track lines, whereas



Makow (https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/Mossad-Chabad-Deep-State%20.html) follows the tracks of the Chabad/Lubavitch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad) networks... (see Parts 1 (http://www.rense.com/general96/FLvalentine.html), 2 and (http://www.rense.com/general96/FLschoolexplodes.html) 3 of this series (http://www.rense.com/general96/commando.html))

East Sun
27th February 2018, 23:51
Do we ever find out what happens to those "Patsies" once they are taken into custody? Of course not. They are probably taken to a mental hospital to be "evaluated" and practically never seen again.

Their brain has been f*cked over already so they have no chance of remembering or recalling what happened to them and never will because of being drugged into oblivion from now on.

Remember those who have gone before them. Yeah, we do know 'of them.'

Watch for those to come in our future..

Because there will be more...............

Just watch and be aware..............

Michelle Marie
28th February 2018, 00:21
At the risk of maybe appearing to be a ‘disciple’ of JR - not true, actually - he’s right on the money with his observations, and has many years’ experience in the investigatory field, not withstanding the fact that he also seems to possess a finely tuned and fully functioning BS detector..

When he says, as he does here, “Listen to the man” (to whom he is referring) then you better had.

For the record and so there is no blur here, or misunderstanding of my view of this whole atrocity: it is my view that this shooting spree was not the work of Nicolas Cruz, at all, or a 'lone nut' - the title of his piece may inadvertantly suggest that. However the factual data Jon provides here would attest to the ‘mental illness’ angle underpinning part of the agenda behind this recent atrocity as was most probably the case with Sandy Hoax.

Anyway, do please read below (Tintin Q)

World famous psychiatrist says: more psychiatric drug treatment means more mass shootings will happen

By Jon Rappoport, February 27th 2018

Listen to this man. You'd better listen.

His name is Peter Breggin. He is a world famous psychiatrist. He has been called the conscience of his profession.

Here is an excerpt from his bio:

"Peter R. Breggin MD is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and former Consultant at NIMH [National Institute of Mental Health] who has been called 'The Conscience of Psychiatry' for his many decades of successful efforts to reform the mental health field. His work provides the foundation for modern criticism of psychiatric diagnoses and drugs, and leads the way in promoting more caring and effective therapies. His research and educational projects have brought about major changes in the FDA-approved Full Prescribing Information or labels for dozens of antipsychotic and antidepressant drugs. He continues to education the public and professions about the tragic psychiatric drugging of America's children.""

"Dr. Breggin has authored dozens of scientific articles and more than twenty books, including medical books and the bestsellers Toxic Psychiatry and Talking Back to Prozac. Two more recent books are Medication Madness: The Role of Psychiatric Drugs in Cases of Violence, Suicide and Crime and Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and their Families."

"Dr. Breggin has unprecedented and unique knowledge about how the pharmaceutical industry too often commits fraud in researching and marketing psychiatric drugs. He has testified many times in malpractice, product liability and criminal cases, often in relation to adverse drug effects..."

Here is an explosive excerpt from Dr. Breggin's recent column at Mad In America: "Psychiatrist Says: More Psychiatry Means More Shootings":

"In the early 1990s, a federal court appointed me to be the scientific expert for all of the combined product liability cases that were brought against Eli Lilly throughout the country concerning Prozac-induced violence, suicide and crime. Since then I have been involved in many cases in which judges and juries, and even prosecuting attorneys, have determined that psychiatric drugs have caused or substantially contributed to violence. For a lengthy list, see the Legal Section on my website [www.breggin.com]."

"In 2003/2004, I wrote a scientific review article about antidepressant-induced suicide, violence and mania which the FDA distributed to all its advisory committee members. This took place as the FDA Advisory Committee members prepared to review new warnings to be put in the Full Prescribing Information for all antidepressants."

"In my peer-reviewed paper [about the effects of antidepressants], I wrote: 'Mania with psychosis is the extreme end of a stimulant continuum that often begins with lesser degrees of insomnia, nervousness, anxiety, hyperactivity and irritability and then progresses toward more severe agitation, aggression, and varying degrees of mania."

"In words very close to and sometimes identical to mine, the FDA one year later required the manufacturers of every antidepressant to put the following observations in the Warnings section of the Full Prescribing Information:"

"'All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, and unusual changes in behavior, especially during the initial few months of a course of drug therapy, or at times of dose changes, either increases or decreases. The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric'."

"These adverse drug effects---including agitation, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, akathisia, and impulsivity---are an obvious prescription for violence. Akathisia, which I also described in my article, is a psychomotor agitation that is strongly associated with violence."

"The FDA Medication Guide for antidepressants warns clinicians, patients and families to be on the alert for the following:
• acting on dangerous impulses
• acting aggressive or violent
• feeling agitated, restless, angry or irritable
• other unusual changes in behavior or mood"

"This list (above) of antidepressant adverse effects from the Medication Guide should make clear that antidepressants can cause violence."

"The FDA also acknowledges the risk of both psychosis and aggression from the stimulant drugs used to treat ADHD..."

"In the study of violence reports to the FDA, any predisposition toward violence in the patients themselves was largely ruled out because some of the most violence-inducing drugs were not psychiatric drugs, and were being given to a more general population. Some of the violence-inducing drugs were antibiotics, including Lariam (Mefloquine), which Sgt. Robert Bales was taking when he slaughtered 16 helpless, innocent villagers in Afghanistan."

"[The authorities] do not foresee that the psychiatric strategy for treatment will sometimes lead to tragic outcomes like the school shootings. Nor do they realize that the overall evidence of harm from psychiatric drugs is infinitely greater than the evidence for good effects, as scientist Peter Gøtzsche has confirmed in Deadly Psychiatry and Organized Denial."

"Calling for more spending on mental health and on psychiatry will make matters worse, probably causing many more shootings than it prevents."

"Not only do psychiatric drugs add to the risk of violence, but psychiatric treatment lulls the various authorities and the family into believing that the patient is now 'under control' and 'less of a risk.' Even the patient may think the drugs are helping, and continue to take them right up to the moment of violence."

"Even when some of their patients signal with all their might that they are dangerous and need to be stopped, mental health providers are likely to give drugs, adding fuel to the heat of violent impulses, while assuming that their violence-inducing drugs will reduce the risk of serious aggression."

NOTE: DR. BREGGIN ISSUES THIS WARNING: "Most psychiatric drugs can cause withdrawal reactions, including life-threatening emotional and physical reactions. So it is not only dangerous to start psychiatric drugs, it can also be dangerous to stop them. Withdrawal from psychiatric drugs should be done carefully under experienced clinical supervision. Methods for safely withdrawing from psychiatric drugs are discussed in Dr. Breggin's book: Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and Their Families."

My comments: The tragedy of many mass shootings---many more than are highlighted by the press---is mirrored by the tragedy of psychiatric drug treatment.

Overwhelmingly, psychiatrists bury their heads in the sand, as they continue to dose patients with compounds that cause horrendous effects, including violence.

The psychiatric solution to mass shootings---more diagnosis and more drugs---becomes the cause for increased shootings.

Many mainstream reporters are aware of this, but they are constrained from telling the whole truth. Their media outlets are relying on pharmaceutical advertising for their very existence.

Legal authorities make it very difficult, if not impossible, to obtain information about which psychiatric drugs shooters were taking before they went on their rampages. Case in point, Sandy Hook, 2012---the (purported) killer, Adam Lanza, had been under psychiatric treatment. But an assistant attorney general for the state of Connecticut stated that the list of Lanza's meds would not be disclosed, because that "can cause a lot of people to stop taking their medications." Better for patients to keep taking those drugs---and then some of them will violently go off on innocent persons.

In conversations with attorneys over the years, I've been told that judges, police officers, and prosecutors avoid the "psychiatric drug issue." They don't want to touch it. After all, friendly psychiatrists are part of the legal system. They often testify at trials. Further, "medical experts" will lash out and go on the attack against law enforcement if an attempt is made to link a violent crime to the effects of psychiatric drugs. (Dr. Breggin has managed to break through this code of silence. He is one of the only psychiatrists who has been able to testify in court about the true effects of psychiatric drugs.)

At the federal level, lobbyists for drug companies are crawling all over Washington DC. They exert an astonishing level of influence on law makers and bureaucrats. The issue of psychiatric drug-induced murder is obviously not on the list of permitted issues for open and extensive discussion.

Then there is the FDA. This is the agency tasked with approving every medical drug as safe and effective before it can be released for public use. The FDA will never admit its decisions have been fueling mass shootings across America. The Agency views the pharmaceutical industry as its partner. Placing warnings on informational drug inserts (as described above by Dr. Breggin) easily escapes the attention of psychiatric patients. Doctors who prescribe the drugs may or may not read those warnings. Even if they do read them, the drugs are THE solution to "mental disorders." Very few doctors will seek other means of treatment.

The public is in the middle of a psychiatric plague. Learning the truth is the first step forward.

After that, we MUST preserve the right to refuse medication.

Freedom and life itself hang in the balance.

"We must preserve the right to refuse medication."

I think informed independent thinkers are taking personal responsibility for their health and refusing to put their lives in the hands of doctors who are inculcated themselves to push chemical drugs. I'm hearing more and more of people who don't go to doctors (they may get acupuncture of go to a naturopath), but zero doctor appointments.

Any law that would mandate drugs or vaccines are illegal..we have "certain unalienable rights". --- and choices for ourselves that are healthy is a right. Anyone with Integrity knows that is true.

Conditions to change:
* Psychiatric drugs have been proven to cause violence.
* Government agencies [FDA] are complicit by sanctioning dangerous drugs (a note mentioning their danger is not an excuse).
* Media profits from advertisements from drug companies and cover up the truth as to their role in crimes such as school shootings, so they are complicit in said crimes.
* Doctors who prescribe these drugs are completely complicit in the crimes and deaths resulting.
* Adults who have this information and take the drugs anyway, in spite of feeling aggressive or potentially suicidal or violent or give such medications to their children are complicit in these crimes.

We can see who is responsible and accountable for theses violent crimes, and it's not just the one pulling the trigger. And I'm not saying the accused did pull the trigger, because the operation with the lone gunman story is so old and worn out the holes in it are letting in the light of awareness.

This is the story of the catalyst. Not the whole operation or agenda based on political or satanic motives. It's just a part of the truth that is becoming glaringly apparent.

You can't put this genie of knowledge back into the bottle when the awareness has seized it.

:star: This aspect deserves attention so that it is not swept under the rug by distractions.

No, it needs to be highlighted, bolded, italicized, and underlined and locked firmly into our awakened awareness. Because we are preparing to "name names and call out games" as I previously mentioned.

The rest of the eugenics, Transhumanist agenda is coming to light as well. It will never, ever, be hidden again.

We can demand Integrity, Ethics, Transparency, Morality, and Accountability.
No neuropathic AI can control us when we control ourselves. That's absurd. Not that they aren't trying and trapping the unaware, but herein lies our destiny, as Paul said. It's why we're here.

Here, here, now! I had to add my 2 [common] cents.
MM :flower:

Gemma13
28th February 2018, 01:52
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/florida-deputy-who-didnt-confront-shooter-insists-hes-no-coward?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29


In the statement, Peterson claimed he took up a position outside Building 12 after rushing over to respond to a report of firecrackers. He said that he was the first BSO deputy to dispatch on the radio that shots were being fired. He also claimed that he told a first-arriving Coral Springs officer that he “thought that the shots were coming from outside.

“Radio transmissions indicated that there were a gunshot victim in the area of the football field, which served to confirm Mr. Peterson’s belief that the shooter, or shooters, were outside,” according to the lawyer.

Peterson added that he had "the presence of mind" to have school officials locate the shooter using closed-circuit TV cameras.

Sheriff Israel’s statement is, at best, a gross oversimplification of the events that transported," the statement said.

The lawyer also criticized Israel for prematurely singling out Peterson, adding that the public should wait to see the results of the investigation.

PETERSON IN 2015
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/27/us/27sheriff/27sheriff-master768.jpg


So . . . . is Peterson the 2nd PATSY?

Cidersomerset
28th February 2018, 07:46
#Trump's #DOJ Fires a Shot Across #BigPharma's Bow in Operation PIL

iBZ3i1Q1doM

Published on 27 Feb 2018
Justice Department forms opioid task force Justice Department forms opioid task force
5 Hours Ago | 01:00The U.S. Justice Department said Tuesday that a new task force
will target the makers and distributors of prescription painkillers who, according to
Attorney General Jeff Sessions, have contributed to an epidemic of fatal overdoses
from opioids by selling too much of the addictive drugs.

"We will use criminal penalties, we will use civil penalties," said Sessions in announcing
the Prescription Interdiction and Litigation (PIL) Task Force.

"We will use whatever laws and tools we have to hold people accountable if they break our laws,"
said Sessions, who also said that opioid abuse is "driving the deadliest drug crisis in American history." WOW!
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/attor...

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Jeff Sessions announces new task force targeting opioid manufacturers, distributors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCknreUe3Xk
Published on 27 Feb 2018
The attorney general rolled out the the Prescription Interdiction Litigation Task
Force as part of the DOJ's ongoing effort to combat the nation's opioid epidemic.

Tintin
28th February 2018, 10:16
Zak, talking to Alex Jones on today's show, has a bit to say about the situation in Florida and the bigger picture:

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/wrxu0p6wmgskfacl7quyxa7eqste8i2u

Thanks Norman - this is very interesting.

I'm concerned at the moment with anything to do with the phrase/s 'radical Islam', and anything that alludes to it, and as much as I am a real supporter of what Alex is doing, completely, feel that I need to get this off my chest.

He really needs to stop referencing that and presenting this as if this is some disgruntled band of rebels with a cause. I know he knows this but it crops up too often in his narrative, and, I don't think is helpful. Not everyone in his audience will be bright enough to read between the lines of some of the things he presents.

Anybody who hasn't been sleeping under a rock like a gecko, within our community, really ought to be very clear on this:

Radical Islam, as sold to the audience is simply and always has been a fabrication and cover op for the sinister shadow state, funded and armed by them and operating as a paramilitary group on their behalf - I know we know this here. Another group of privately funded foot-soldiers for the powers that be. Another arm of their one world military operation. Period. There may be individuals within these disparate groups that may like to think it's a rebel cause but it is anything but. They're simply doing a job for their paymasters hiding behind their curtain.

Even Sam Giancana, back in the day, put on record that the 'mob' and the CIA were one organisation in effect - he said that. ISIS or whatever label those powers have chosen this week to call that regiment, are that: a regiment. Same with all the services. They are in effect hit squads for the corporation, several of many.

I have listened to Alex's excellent interview with Aaron Russo, several times in fact, and that segment where Aaron refers to a certain ****feller sums it up.

The House of Saud are in on it, willingly and gleefully. They are just another arm of the same family of maniacs attempting to ruin everything. The monarchies around the world; same thing - just part of the extended family of maniacs. Russian (or all) mafia, global secret services, the Church/es (Vatican, definitely), the Caliphate/Clerics, Rabbis, Gurus, Corporation bosses etc etc...Each doing the jobs assigned them to do.

If folk started to think of all these apparently separate entities as part and parcel of the same thing, and they are, then we can regain focus and the enemy ought to be more easily flushed out and rid of.

Of course, I know, at this point, we wonder how on earth we can do this.

I know, I'm waxing and stating some obvious stuff here. Just wish Alex would also ram this home more often. (Not in the best mood and I apologise - full moon effect I think.)

Again, I must state, Alex is doing some incredible stuff and he has a lot of clout, and I back him totally.

Michelle Marie
28th February 2018, 11:34
Here is a major dot connector:

Connecting Dots. -- 2-28-2018

You Are Free
9v9Em-FXZ6w

Broward County ----- THE KEY to Pandora's Box of Globalist Crimes

* False Flags
* MK Ultra
* Synthetic telepathy (voice to skull technology)
* psychotropic drugs, opioids, antibiotics, vaccines
* Gun control
* U.N. Troops (vehicles & weapons-Jade Helm)
* Corporate Fascism (Walmart - FEMA -Homeland Security)
* Pedophelia
* Satanism
* Wetware (the Internet of things) neural programming - Cerco
* Chemtrails (nanotechnology-biowarfare)
* GMO foods
* Morgellons disease
* Synthetic DNA genome

Global Control (mental - physical - spiritual)

*****5G***** Massive Control of human bodies, minds, health

Bank of England/Rothschild banking family owns patents and U.S. Assets (Dept of Energy) -- Cerco (all patents)
Loss of Constitution in 1933 when bankruptcy declared
Presidents declare state of Emergency
THIS IS ALL FRAUDULENT!

2018 Jubilee Year. -- All Debts are forgiven.

The Awakening, or revelations of Truth. -- uncovering lies, secrets, motives, and agendas is the CATALYST of Freedom from Fascism and Tyranny of the attempted Global Takeover.

Coward County FalseFlag Operation
Brings all of the above together with the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring that includes connection with the Rothschilds/Bank of England

*****Executive Order*******
*****Reclamation of U.S. Financial assets*****
*******DEBT JUBILEE*******
*****Reclamation of FREEDOM of both Person and Property*****
_______________________________________________________________

Sarah Westall (video) & Robert David Steele (report and letter to editor)

https://phibetaiota.net/2018/02/sarah-holmes-robert-steele-update-on-timothy-holmseth/

-----Timothy Holmseth in witness protection program-----

The investigations of Timothy Holmseth has lead to evidence of crimes committed by pedophile rings that include judges, CIA, FBI, and many government officials (being removed and indicted) [Jeffery Epstein, et al]

From Robert David Steele:

*** "Removing judges who have been involved in, and protecting others involved in
the business of buying, selling, raping, torturing, and murdering children."

*** "Polk County is now fully briefed...former CIA and FBI cohorts are now under sealed indictments and will be of no further use to them."

*** "I believe that Broward County -- and Debbie Wasserman Schultz's District -- are going to be proven to be much, much worse than the Franklin scandal in Nebraska and the Catholic church's misbehavior in Boston (Spotlight)."
_______________________________________________________________


:sun: Awareness IS Power :sun:

MM

Nan
28th February 2018, 12:09
http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2018/02/florida-school-false-flag.html

That is interesting. Have not seen that information on Hoggs dad.

Hervé
28th February 2018, 15:48
Kevin Hogg is Prime Suspect in Parkland Shooting (https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/kevin-hogg-is-prime-suspect.html)

henrymakow.com February 27, 2018


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/hogg-800x430.jpg
(David Hogg and killer-trainer father Kevin)


"The evidence available thus far from the Valentine's day massacre has been mounting against the Hogg family as undercover accomplices and beneficiaries in the clandestine operation that killed 17 students and teachers.

David Hogg has zero right to talk about "gun control" when his father works for the most murderous part of the assault-rifle industry, the killer-training program known as Cubic Simulation Systems (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-hogg-73411b30), a nice name for Murder Inc. Version 2."

(http://www.rense.com/general96/hogg-tied-to-the-gunfire-at-parkland-school-pt5.html)
Hogg works for a company that simulates terror attacks among other kinds of firefights.


"I have just two questions for the Hoggs and the boss at Cubic: Among your assault weapon toting trainees, which ones did Parkland? Or was the job contracted out to your company reps with Israeli Defense Force (IDF), maybe some Shomrim reservists down at Chabad House? "

Hogg-Tied to the Gunfire at Parkland School Pt 5 (http://www.rense.com/general96/hogg-tied-to-the-gunfire-at-parkland-school-pt5.html)

by Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive to Rense.com
(Excerpt by henrymakow.com)

The Hoggs are lying hustlers and profiteers from the worst gun violence in the world from war-torn Iraq to downtown USA. Here it will be shown that the father, Kevin Hogg, and his employer belong on the most-wanted suspect list for the Parkland school gunshot deaths. American citizens have every right to own guns to protect themselves from the lethal deceptions of the Hoggs. Mothers and fathers of Marjorie Stoneman Douglas students, do not let your children follow these Pied Pipers to their dishonor and destruction...


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/TN-518617_BackviewofSoldiersduringOrlandodemo.jpg


As analyzed further on in this essay, the shooting at Parkland school was done by highly trained professional shooters, with an accuracy level far surpassing any weekend warrior and far beyond an amateur like suspect Nikolas Cruz.

The Parkland shooters, plural, demonstrated their prior training at weapons handling and in tactical guidelines from either Kevin Hogg's company, called Cubic Simulation Systems (https://www.cubic.com/), or one of the few other comparable special-ops training programs.



One of the promo videos from Cubic Simulation Systems was re-posted at rense.com (http://www.rense.com/) so that any casual viewers are not tagged and tracked by that spooky outfit....The software and visualization package, which trains new recruits to use assault rifles against simulated human targets on video, is called PRISim, an acronym that I have so [far] failed to decipher.

Here's a question for PC liberals: Do Black Lives Matter?

Not at Cubic.

PRISim offers the pleasure of simulated shootings of African-American criminals at point-blank range. Take note, that's one way to hold down the tax burden for building new prisons. After clearing the bar with an electronic toy gun, the shooter can then progress to firing live ammunition inside their "Village", a model of Ferguson, where novice shooters graduate can open up with short-barrel assault rifles at dummies, like the ones inside and outside Parkland school.

It takes a village of corpses before being awarded a certificate of excellence, as described in Cubic's press release after it won a contract with DuPage College in Glen Ellyn, Illinois, for the Suburban Law Enforcement Academy (SLEA, pronounced "slay"). The 66,000 sq.ft. facility called the Homeland Security Training Center includes a 4,500 sq.ft "tactical village" (otherwise known as the ghetto). an indoor two-story replica of a downtown street used for immersion training. For a while in my youth, I grew up in a Bloods gang-controlled area of Southwest LA, so this replica would be a homecoming for me.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/39895_O.jpg


Cubic equipped the facility with its Advanced System Architecture for Urban Live Training (ASAULT, d'ya suppose these guys like to kill?), consisting of cameras, speakers, smoke generators, high fidelity indoor tracking and computer-based exercise monitoring and debriefing apps. Cubic uses targeting with ballistic-accurate lasers mounted on actual weapons to realistically simulate gun battles and to record hits and misses. These are used extensively by the U.S. and foreign military forces for combat training. Got that, Teach?

Now you know where he's coming from.



This isn't about a lone gunman, it's a massive killing machine. If this is what the American citizenry is going to be facing soon, it's time to legalize 30mm Gatling guns for home protection.

Now consider the fact that PRISim is the business as usual that puts food on the table in the Hogg dining room. Therefore one can conclude that CNN "gun-control advocate" from the Broward school district, Rebecca Boldrick aka Mom, must be packing too. Don't ask, don't tell when it comes to the Hoggs unless you want to end up neck deep in the swill.

OK, little David, we see right through your BS game, so preach what you really practice. Come out of that closet and admit you're a con artist who defrauded those rich people in Hollywood who support gun control. One thing's for sure, you owe an apology to Senator Marco Rubio. Now go wash your lying mouth out with soap.

DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS
[...]

Full article: https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/kevin-hogg-is-prime-suspect.html

Noelle
28th February 2018, 16:36
Here are some short videos on Cubic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVEjx1hRoyk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMovgWzHj8o

Hervé
28th February 2018, 20:31
From Jim stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zf2.html):
Feb 28 2018

PREDICTABLE: Teacher holed up in classroom making threats with a gun. (http://82.221.129.208/.zf2.html)

Yep. David Hogg 2. Libs just won't give it a rest.

After the Florida fakery, there were many people calling for guns to be allowed in schools, and for teachers to be armed.

Like clockwork, as soon as they could possibly set it up, CNN backed fakers are faking it yet again, but this time it is a teacher in Dalton Georgia, who fired shots (probably blanks) in a classroom.

Teacher captured. No one hurt.

Here's the twitter stream from the police department.

GET THIS:
Even in the first tweet it says no children are in danger! The first tweet, at 9:16 AM.

How would the police know that?

Bullets go through walls you know, and the kids were not out of the school yet, and they did not have the guy in custody yet, so HOW, PRAY TELL, could they tweet that no one was in danger??!!?? YOU GUESS.

http://82.221.129.208/dalton.gif


Obviously what we have with this is an excuse to not allow teachers to be armed. There was too much discussion about putting guns in the schools, and this is the libs attempt to quash that discussion.

Here's the story line prediction:

It will be a substitute teacher with a history of mental illness who shot up a classroom with a hand gun and missed everyone. Therefore we need mental health checks, and school zones have to be gun free. Waiting . . . . . Waiting . . . . .
HA HA HA, I Called it!! LOOK AT THIS TWEET ON THE PD TWITTER


http://82.221.129.208/daltonjack.gif


HA HA HA, NO ONE IS GOING TO BE STUPID WITH THIS!

Valerie Villars
28th February 2018, 20:43
Supposedly, Fox just came out with a story of a teacher shooting a student in the ankle, in the last couple of hours. Haven't checked it out. Can you say, "The world is insane?"

Cidersomerset
28th February 2018, 21:03
This is feels suspect they are social media savvy and if it is genuine fair enough,
everyone is entitled to protest . I have been on industrial action at work several
times over the past decade and I'm a CWU member and proud of it.

Though this does feel manipulated and has definitely been encouraged and
exploited by the deepstate as we have seen. CNN are at the school as they
return and the activists are on again.....The show so far.

How Student Survivors Are Fueling a Gun-Control Movement

Wall Street Journal

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Published on 28 Feb 2018
In the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 people
dead, student survivors have started a movement for greater gun control.
Two students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School explain how
social media, crowdfunding and political activism have helped spread
their message. Photo: Getty Images

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Students return to school two weeks after shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_JVSZ0vB6s

Published on 28 Feb 2018...CNN
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students made an emotionally charged
retun to class Wednesday, many filing in with flowers as they passed numerous
police officers and well-wishers lining streets to the school.

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Georgia teacher fires gun in empty classroom

44 minutes ago

A Georgia teacher who barricaded himself in his classroom and fired a
handgun is in police custody.Jesse Randall Davidson, 53, locked his
students in the hallway and fired a shot when the principal opened the
door, according to US media reports.No students were hurt by the alleged
gunfire but one sprained her ankle.The incident came two weeks after
17 were killed at a Florida high school and President Trump called for
teachers to be armed to tackle mass shooters.

read more..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43217142
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Teacher barricades self in classroom at Georgia high school
CBS News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUf35h0Ivf0
Published on 28 Feb 2018
Police responded to reports of shots fired at a high school in Dalton, Georgia.
Police said a teacher was taken into custody after barricading himself in a
classroom. No students were injured in the incident. Anne-Marie Green and
Reid Lamberty report.


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They talk about Florida through out the segment as well as other topics....

MIKE ADAMS: F@LSE FL@G, MOTHER OF ALL! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

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Published on 28 Feb 2018

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PART 2 Mike Adams ,Roger Stone & Alex ... Florida shooting & other topics...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhLgHK-lFAs
Published on 28 Feb 2018

KiwiElf
28th February 2018, 21:04
Supposedly, Fox just came out with a story of a teacher shooting a student in the ankle, in the last couple of hours. Haven't checked it out. Can you say, "The world is insane?"

At the risk of being UN-PC (no offense intended to anyone), we used to call this "Chinese Whispers"... (sorry, I'm not aware of a modern-day equivalent "term"...! ;))

EXTRACT: "No one was injured aside from a female student who hurt her ankle while rushing to evacuate Dalton High School."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/28/georgia-teacher-custody-after-police-say-he-fired-shot-empty-classroom/381955002/

And "yep"... "The world IS insane!" :der:

KiwiElf
28th February 2018, 22:07
I've never seen so many YT videos on a single thread "disappear" as much as on this one - take a look through the pages from the start ;)

gord
28th February 2018, 22:26
Laws have been weaponized.

I can't think of anything that hasn't been weaponized.

Cidersomerset
28th February 2018, 22:56
Interesting discussion led by the President and it does show where congress is
and has been over the decades. Trumps simplicity and independence does give
him a unique opportunity to get a bipartisan bill through as said by several of
the participants, but you can tell this is not going to be that simple....

This was a good PR session for a beautiful , strong , strong, strong, beautiful
comprehensive bill and I cannot see it happening but he made the dems happy.


Gun control measures proposed by Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X959Cfs8zU8
Streamed live 3 hours ago..28/2/18
The president meets with bi-partisan members of congress in the cabinet room of
the White House to discuss school and community safety.

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President Donald Trump meets with members of Congress to discuss school safety | ABC News ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZsm9rmb-8o

Streamed live 3 hours ago...28/2/18..Full debate.
The president meets with bi-partisan members of congress in the cabinet room of
the White House to discuss school and community safety.

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Trump talks gun control with bipartisan group of lawmakers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haI4JodZ7K0

Published on 28 Feb 2018
Can the president craft a deal that Congress can pass? Reaction and
analysis on 'The Five.'
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Trump meets with bipartisan lawmakers on school safety

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JcNyQt0TQg
Published on 28 Feb 2018
NY Post columnist Michael Goodwin and former Clinton pollster Doug Schoen
discuss President Trump’s efforts to bring a partisan solution on school safety.

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David Hogg is on this whole 8 min segment this is a political interview
not a return to school piece....

Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg on emotional return to school

CBS News

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Published on 28 Feb 2018
Classes resumed at Majory Stoneman Douglas High School two weeks after the
mass shooting that claimed the lives of 17 people. Student activists continue
pressing lawmakers to take action on gun reform, and for companies to cut ties
with the NRA. David Hogg, a senior who survived the shooting, joined CBSN to
discuss the emotional return to school and what action he wants to see on guns.

bluestflame
28th February 2018, 23:15
https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/kevin-hogg-is-prime-suspect.html

more research material , take what resonates, chuck the rest


"The evidence available thus far from the Valentine's day massacre has been mounting against the Hogg family as undercover accomplices and beneficiaries in the clandestine operation that killed 17 students and teachers. David Hogg has zero right to talk about "gun control" when his father works for the most murderous part of the assault-rifle industry, the killer-training program known as Cubic Simulation Systems, a nice name for Murder Inc. Version 2."

Hervé
1st March 2018, 01:03
https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/kevin-hogg-is-prime-suspect.html
[...]
See post # 226 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018&p=1211046&viewfull=1#post1211046) above :)

Harley
1st March 2018, 02:03
Seen all this coming from waay back, but it's almost unbelievable how patently blatant they've become with their False Flag (Blaming the Gun) attacks.

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ThePythonicCow
1st March 2018, 03:38
Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan, and a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, is a relatively careful, but astute, commentator on political and economic matters, especially in the US. He is somewhat more of a suit-and-tie sort of guy than a conspiracy theorist, but he is an astute, clear thinking, and very knowledgeable commentator.

He weights in on the Florida shooting, wondering some of the same things we've been wondering -- what really happened and why is the truth being suppressed?

In his post Why is Google/YouTube taking down these videos and threatening the sites that post them? (https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/02/28/google-youtube-taking-videos-threatening-sites-post/), he wrote:

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Scroll down this URL to the last video of the blond female student at Parkland, Alexa Miednik. She says she walked out of the building with the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, while shots were still occuring in other parts of the building. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-25/infowars-receives-youtube-termination-warning-over-crisis-actor-video

This Parkland teacher, Stacy Lippel, describes the shooter as police in full armor. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/questions-emerge-over-florida-shooters-full-metal-garb Notice that Lippel also says the shooting was occuring after the fire alarm went off. Isn’t the official story that Cruz pulled the fire alarm after his rampage was over so that he could escape by walking out with the other students?

How did Cruz get rid of his full armor in time to walk out of the building with Alexa Miednik?

Why is David Hogg, the suspected crisis actor, the witness of choice of the presstitutes and not Alexa Miednik and Stacy Lippel? Hogg can’t seem to remember his lines: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-25/infowars-receives-youtube-termination-warning-over-crisis-actor-video

Who do we believe, the eyewitness students and teachers, or the authorities and presstitutes, who never tell the truth.

When we are faced with these heavy contradictions, why is it conspiracy theory and/or insensitivity and harassment to raise questions?

I do not know what happened, but I am again witnessing the shutdown of honest inquiry.

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Wind
1st March 2018, 04:06
Can you say, "The world is insane?"

It's insane.

KiwiElf
1st March 2018, 04:25
I do not know what happened, but I am again witnessing the shutdown of honest inquiry.

I'd say a good indication that, "We're Over the Target" ;)

bluestflame
1st March 2018, 07:15
https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/kevin-hogg-is-prime-suspect.html
[...]
See post # 226 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101744-Mass-Shooting-in-Parkland-Florida-High-School-14-Feb-2018&p=1211046&viewfull=1#post1211046) above :)

thanks Herve', " great minds think independantly yet the truth will still be found , if that is the intent " or words to that effect ;)

( i can't believe i missed your post , i need more sleep i rekon )

Cidersomerset
1st March 2018, 13:05
Trump because of his lack of reliance on lobbyist cash can lob political hand
grenades at these subjects like he did with his immigration round table.
They may not work as bills get bogged down in the details , but it does
show Trumps willingness to air this in public even if it comes across as
simplistic to the swamp dwellers, to the public it dismisses the press's claim
that his is unfit for the office and is trying to change the system...

Of course the mainstream will still attack him and say he is naive in
these matters as usual except Fox....


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Trump at odds with Republican lawmakers over gun reforms

4 hours ago...1/3/18
Florida school shooting


US President Donald Trump has stunned lawmakers from
both parties by telling them in a live broadcast not to be
so "petrified" of the powerful gun lobby the National Rifle
Association (NRA).

In a break from his party's stance on gun control, Mr Trump
urged lawmakers to come up with a "strong" reform bill.
He suggested expanding background checks for gun buyers
and raising the legal age to buy rifles to 21 from 18.

His comments come in the wake of the deadly school shooting
in Florida."I want you to come up with a strong bill - and really
strong on background checks," Mr Trump told lawmakers at the
White House on Wednesday, pushing them to work together on
bipartisan legislation.

He said the NRA has "great power over you people", but that
the lobby has "less power over me".

Mr Trump's change of tack on gun control left Republicans
"a bit unsettled", CNN reported.

read morehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43235969

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Rep. Stephanie Murphy discusses Trump's meeting with lawmakers about guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3sJ-bU49U
Published on 28 Feb 2018
Florida Democratic U.S. Rep. Stephanie Murphy joined CBSN to discuss the
bipartisan meeting at the White House on Wednesday and her bill to get rid
of the Dickey Amendment.

Cidersomerset
1st March 2018, 15:32
Sheriff Denies Responsibility For It! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

INFO WARS NEWS

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Published on 1 Mar 2018

Cidersomerset
1st March 2018, 20:37
Its a scam.....Over 300 false diagnosed mental disorders made up to create
corporate profits and more...There are genuine disorders but nowhere near
enough to medicate to the extent they are.
https://media.rbl.ms/image?u=%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F10%2F18%2F6358078559945343641660532643_tumblr_mm2vys1sKx1qdh72qo1_250.gif&ho=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.theodysseyonline.com&s=485&h=b0aa728c6faf236682450e071a065c419012a1c03d2e2423d637de0828b6b2fa&size=980x&c=3523161144
Jeff & Jon Rappoport - The Psychiatric Destruction Of America

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Published on 27 Feb 2018


https://article.images.consumerreports.org/prod/content/dam/CRO%20Images%202017/Magazine-Articles/September/CRM-Inline-Pill-Nation-08-17-v2
https://www.consumerreports.org/prescription-drugs/too-many-meds-americas-love-affair-with-prescription-medication/

https://www.drugabuse.gov/sites/all/themes/nida_vic_adaptive/images/nih-nida-logo.gif
https://www.drugabuse.gov/about-nida/legislative-activities/testimony-to-congress/2016/americas-addiction-to-opioids-heroin-prescription-drug-abuse

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Trump: Countries that kill drug dealers have ‘much less of a drug problem’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eu0K8A97hU
Published on 1 Mar 2018
President Trump on March 1 said countries where drug dealers face “the ultimate
penalty” have “much less of a drug problem than we do.” Subscribe to The
Washington Post on YouTube: http://bit.ly/2qiJ4dy

bluestflame
1st March 2018, 21:51
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/969301114607648768




An old video has recently surfaced from one of David Hogg's classmates saying David "shouldn't even be in our school, he's 25 from California" with the annotation "My debate partner is a crisis actor"

lot of comments suggesting this is satire , bait , to target credibility as they appear to have done with the broward county sheriffs "wrapped "lambourgini which was from an old story around 5 years ago

am not sure

Flash
1st March 2018, 22:02
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/969301114607648768




An old video has recently surfaced from one of David Hogg's classmates saying David "shouldn't even be in our school, he's 25 from California" with the annotation "My debate partner is a crisis actor"

lot of comments suggesting this is satire , bait , to target credibility as they appear to have done with the broward county sheriffs "wrapped "lambourgini which was from an old story around 5 years ago

they are proving in the twitter comments that the video is fake - please check before posting.

Those are the kind of videos and comments that make it justified and justifiable in their mind to the google of this world to try cutting off half the alt media.

However, they are saying that Hogg graduated from a high school in California in 2015 and should not even have been at Florida high school. They show graduation party pics (this does not prove it). Graduation in California should be easy to prove if true.

Hervé
1st March 2018, 23:18
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/969301114607648768


An old video has recently surfaced from one of David Hogg's classmates saying David "shouldn't even be in our school, he's 25 from California" with the annotation "My debate partner is a crisis actor"lot of comments suggesting this is satire , bait , to target credibility as they appear to have done with the broward county sheriffs "wrapped "lambourgini which was from an old story around 5 years ago

am not sure
From what I managed to follow, it seems the current uploaded video itself isn't old. However it seems it's a former colleague of Hogg commenting on an older video he is looking at, as a voice over, and mentioning he knows the guy from another high school where he already graduated...

Now, this seems more factual:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t/28151136_2071908456425895_8247074396506685440_n.jpg (http://i.imgs.fyi/img/2pkq.jpg)

(click on picture for High rez version)


Anyone able to validate the California high school graduation?

... which leave a mystery as to why none of the students from the Parkland High School are blowing the whistle about David Hogg not being a student there?

Mandala?

Hervé
1st March 2018, 23:46
Seen all this coming from waay back, but it's almost unbelievable how patently blatant they've become with their False Flag (Blaming the Gun) attacks.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=37269&d=1519869020&thumb=1

Right... from way, way back:



From Carolyn Hamlett via More Massacres Until Gun Laws Enacted - Insider (http://www.henrymakow.com/insider-shootings-will.html):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png I speak from my experience of being born and raised in the globalist organization, taught this plan to take over America and bring America to ruin.

When I was a small child in the 1950's, I knew these types of shootings would be happening just prior to the beginning of the planned chaos.

I also know that the globalist organization has been programming multitudes of individuals at least since the early 1950's, to be triggered to perpetrate the planned chaos in America and in other locations throughout the world.

Many of these programmed people are what I call "sleepers" because they are totally unaware that they have been programmed.

The programming is dormant until the inner clock is triggered which engages the program. I believe that the movie, "Avatar" contains such triggers. I haven't seen the Batman movie, but I suspect it also contains triggers. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png
... from post # 21 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1208130#post1208130)

norman
2nd March 2018, 00:03
While it's very possible that sleepers being triggered is in a fact true, I wonder if it's a missdirection to get us talking about stuff that will make the normies completely slam the door in our faces and open a gulf of terminal division.

I think the evidence is clear enough that the killing at Parkland was done by people brought in to do it and vanish. Nothing I've seen or heard even makes me suspect the kid actually fired a gun or was in any other way a part of the operation.

Bill Ryan
2nd March 2018, 00:05
From what I managed to follow, it seems the current uploaded video itself isn't old. However it seems it's a former colleague of Hogg commenting on an older video he is looking at, as a voice over, and mentioning he knows the guy from another high school where he already graduated...

Now, this seems more factual:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t/28151136_2071908456425895_8247074396506685440_n.jpg

Anyone able to validate the California high school graduation?

... which leave a mystery as to why none of the students from the Parkland High School are blowing the whistle about David Hogg not being a student there?

Mandala?



Seems to be fake:


http://businessinsider.com/david-hogg-conspiracy-theory-2018-2
http://thedailyhaze.com/david-hogg-redondo-shores-high-school-california

(and many other articles... the story has been circulating for over a week)