'Cosmic Disclosure's EMERY SMITH is a hoaxer.

[Bill Ryan]

'Whistleblower' Emery Smith has been mentioned on several Avalon threads. He's currently being interviewed by David Wilcock in a multi-part series on Gaia TV.

The first episode was here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpE7CC1zZiA
... but transcripts of all the shows (12, so far) have been published here:


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/tag/EmerySmith.html

My attention was just drawn to the latest-but-one transcript. OMG.

You always know when a story is false when you know something about it yourself. I live in Ecuador, as most readers will be aware.

We'll start here, at episode 10. (I've not even paid any attention yet to episodes 2-9, or 12.)


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-secrets-at-the-south-pole.html

Emery Smith tells David Wilcock:



EMERY: I have recently met with four of the scientists that were part of that expedition, well, many expeditions in the past few years – in Costa Rica recently.
And what was interesting is there's also another craft that is part of some of the craft that's down THERE [Antarctica] in a cave down near Costa Rica, I'll say.
David Wilcock picks him up on this in the next episode, #11, published last week.


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-nazca-tunnels-and-super-suit-technology.html

The entire relevant part is too long and detailed to copy and paste here, but do read it. The relevant part begins:



DAVID: I was particularly fascinated in the previous episode when you talked about the idea that similar ruins as Antarctica were found in a cave in Costa Rica. And I want to throw something at you and see what you say.
EMERY: I did tell you it was NEAR Costa Rica on the last episode.
DAVID: Oh! Right.
EMERY: So correct. Yes, I've been there.
DAVID: You've been to the one in Ecuador?
EMERY: Yes.
Then Emery Smith waxes lyrical and fantastical about the very well-known Tayos Cave (though he doesn't mention its name), identifying it by the fact it's in Ecuador (no longer Costa Rica; he corrects himself), and that Neil Armstrong was invited on an expedition there (that's true).

This is the site of the fabled 'metal library'. I've personally seen and handled two of the metal plates, when interviewing researcher Klaus Dona.

Here's the Avalon thread, which is pretty interesting even without any of the fantastical embellishment.


Does the metal library really exist?? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8789-Does-the-metal-library-really-exist&highlight=metal)

But the rest is pure, ridiculous, invention. That's a fact. I know about this cave.

Emery Smith tells David Wilcock:


He's been there himself
It's a huge underground complex
There's a crashed disk there
There are remarkable species of unknown flora and fauna that "make AVATAR land look like a small school playground."

All this is fabricated nonsense. (It's a cave!! :) )

And in his first description, he said it was 'near Costa Rica'. That's the account of someone


who's never been there
who knows nothing about the geography
who doesn't really know where Ecuador is
who has vaguely heard something about this story somewhere.

Busted. Really. And all David Wilcock can say (read the transcript!) is 'Wow!', over and over again.

:facepalm:

http://projectavalon.net/Tayos_Cave_location.gif

[Did You See Them]

Just another part of the puzzle.
A piece exposed.

[Wind]

It begs the question, is David this dumb to promote these hoaxers or is he willingly part of the problem too?

[Bill Ryan]

It begs the question, is David this dumb to promote these hoaxers or is he willingly part of the problem too?

Both, in a sense. He's far too credulous, never fact-checks in any way worthy of the name, and so badly always wants to be the superstar hero bringing all this to public knowledge and recognition.

It's all gee-whiz sensational infotainment, and sounds great to a young or uninformed (and uncritical!) audience.

It all falls apart REALLY fast when one happens to know (or be willing to do even a LITTLE work to find out) something about the material oneself — as we've seen before with both Corey Goode and Pete Peterson.

[norman]

And all David Wilcock can say (read the transcript!) is 'Wow!', over and over again.




hahahahaha . . . .:pound:

[AutumnW]

Am hoping that people develop more of a Missouri (the 'show me' state) attitude to this dude and others like him. And then I hope others join them! Because...Missouri loves company. Couldn't resist a sick pun. Sorry:silent:;)

[Mike]

Bill have you ever been to the Tayos cave? Do you know if it's "heavily guarded" like Smith says?

I don't know how far away it is from you and Mara or how difficult it is to access, but that would make for a perfect debunking nail-in-the-coffin type video to present on Avalon....if you could access the cave and get some pics/video.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill have you ever been to the Tayos cave? Do you know if it's "heavily guarded" like Smith says?

I don't know how far away it is from you and Mara or how difficult it is to access, but that would make for a perfect debunking nail-in-the-coffin type video to present on Avalon....if you could access the cave and get some pics/video.

It's not 'heavily guarded' at all. It's simply really hard to get to.

Here's the best single account of the real Tayos Cave. It's WELL worth reading, and is more than fascinating.


THE QUEST FOR THE METAL LIBRARY
http://philipcoppens.com/metal_libr.html


Here's what Emery Smith had to say. Not all the episode, but a significant extract.


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-nazca-tunnels-and-super-suit-technology.html






David: I was particularly fascinated in the previous episode when you talked about the idea that similar ruins as Antarctica were found in a cave in Costa Rica. And I want to throw something at you and see what you say.
One of the insiders told me about a complex that was found underground in Ecuador, and that Neil Armstrong and certain other NASA astronauts were given the ability to go in there.
It's VERY advanced. It's VERY amazing, and it's similar to Antarctica.
And I've never found another insider who had a corollary point of data for that particular thing.
I've tried Pete. I've tried Corey Goode. They didn't know about Ecuador.

Emery: I did tell you it was NEAR Costa Rica on the last episode.

David: Oh! Right.

Emery: So correct. Yes, I've been there.

David: You've been to the one in Ecuador?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: Well, from what I heard, it's absolutely amazing.

Emery: Yes, it seems to have already started its own flora and fauna growing in this... There's a craft that crashed there a very long time ago, and it still had some sort of energy system on.
It must have carried extra bacteria or something because deep down in there it's actually kind of a very bio-luminescent type feeling, and its atmosphere is a little different than the atmosphere on top.
And it's NOT very deep under the ground, so you know.

David: Hm!

Emery: But I can tell you that the plant life down there is unlike anything I've ever seen on Earth...

David: Wow!

Emery: ...so that was really astounding. Of course, some of the little insects and other things that were running around were also very different. And this is...

David: Wow!

Emery: This place is highly guarded and has a really good security system, but I think it's going to be brought to the public because of other organizational satellites are now picking up on Inner Earth things just by accident. So it's going to be hard for them to hide this one.
So he is correct about this... Did he call it a cave or... ?

David: He just said it was an underground complex.

Emery: Right. It's an underground complex. But it really was a craft that we think may have crashed there or stayed there at one point, and then they started building around it.
And then, since it was so close to the surface of the Earth, the water... and it opened up and runoff went in there and some of the flora and fauna has mixed with this stuff, whatever they brought, or it could be the energy from this craft in there that's changing all this stuff.
And I can't got into more detail than just that.

David: Okay. It's been driving me crazy that he used words like “very amazing”, but then wouldn't give me any actual detail of what we might see.
So could you give us a little bit about what we might see if, at some point, we get to go in there?

Emery: Yeah, I can, I just hate to use movies as a retrospect.

David: But movies are programmed with information to discredit whistleblowers.

Emery: It would make “Avatar” land look like a small school playground.

David: Wow!

Emery: Everything in there had fluid running through it. The stems of the branches look like it, you know, had fluid running through everything.

David: Wow!

Emery: There was light, you know, like light from everything – all different kinds of shades of light. Light I've never seen before.
Not just talking about the colors of the rainbow, but so many amazing colors.
And the plants are the most amazing things, and they're like conscious, not like our... Of course, all plants are conscious, but they are different in that way.
Everything down from the leaves to the soil was sponge. It was soil. The soil was all sponge, like you're walking on a one-inch foam mattress, I could put it, you know, how you feel that little gushy?

David: Uh-huh.

Emery: And everything is really humid.
And there were little creatures, like little animals, like the size of mice there that were like naked moles, like naked little shrews, running around that were definitely different. They actually had color that was emanating from them, and I don't know if it was a reflection of light from the light that was in there or if they were emanating light.
I was not there to, you know, talk about that specific thing. I was there on some... to do something else. But it was the most fascinating... one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen here on Earth.
And I do believe there's a lot of other biospheres that are formed. This one just got cracked open somehow and mixed with a lot of our stuff, and that's what they were concerned with. Would it leave this area? And it can't.
The plants they took out of there, and the animals they took out of there, could not survive on the surface of our Earth.

David: Wow!

Emery: So it is its own type of biosphere. And maybe there is an electromagnetic field that's protecting, you know, the opening in that area from anything, you know, going out or, you know, coming in.

David: Part of what he meant by “very amazing”... And I'm really glad to hear these details. It's making a lot of sense now.
And, I guess, I'll just say this first that, apparently, this was one of the ways that Neil Armstrong and other astronauts were bribed to stay quiet.
And from what you're describing, it sounds like it is so incredible that you would want to stay quiet just so you could go there more than once maybe. Or...

Emery: Yeah, there was an exchange of favors. There's no money ever exchanged in these programs. It's all favors.

David: Hm.

Emery: And if you don't comply and take the favor, then there's usually a big problem. Favors such as bringing also the astronauts to Antarctica, as you know.

David: Right. Yes.

Emery: So... And all of these other places that are very special in the planet that we haven't even elaborated on yet, as this one is.
So there's multiple places like this, actually. They're in the Earth and around the Earth. It's just that this one happened to be cracked open like an egg and beautiful things come out.

David: As for technology, when he mentioned “very amazing”, he did imply to some degree that there were things that looked like a really cool spaceship that you would see when you went in there.
So could you elaborate a little on that part as well? Like what's the interplay between technology spaceship-looking stuff and stuff that looks like the gardens in “Avatar”?

Emery: Well, the craft there are light, and so it's not something you'd kick the tires on. Ha, ha. And the light is palpable. And it is round and oval, and it is very long and thin, but it's large. It's fairly large, what I saw, and I didn't get to go all the way in, by the way.
I was only in the first 300 yards, so, and that was enough for me to be completely... My mouth dropped open.

David: Wow!

Emery: And so this light craft is palpable. So think of light not being blinded like the lights we have right now on us, but a light that glows that you can see it and focus on it without being blinded.
And you can enter it from any place you want on the craft...

David: Wow!

Emery: ... once... when you walk up to it and touch it. It's a biometric-type thing.

David: I mean, that's very interesting, Emery, because when Pete was on “Cosmic” talking about this craft in Antarctica, he described that it had a sort of diffuse glow.

Emery: That's right.

David: That everywhere was just light, and no matter where you went, it seemed like the light was always there.
And he also talked about how one of the children that was brought in for these programs figured out that you could speak to the craft, and you could talk to it, and it would mold itself based on what you wanted it to do, and what you told it to do.
It was able to figure out language or thought, or something.

Emery: Absolutely. Yes, definitely. That's, you know... The whole consciousness is just a technology that we call it here today on Earth.
And the craft are all alive, and you don't have to... To fly a craft, you just have to kind of say, “Go”, and where you want to go. It's that simple. And... Or think where you want to go, and it'll get you there safely.
And wherever you look in the craft, you can see completely outside the craft. So no matter where you look, it opens up, and you can see very clearly exactly where you're looking to a very wide angle...

David: Wow!
~~~

The actual entrance to the cave is often underwater (it depends on the level of the Pastaza River, shown below), and requires some serious caving/spelunking expertise to enter. The area is extremely hard to get to, and involves a long and difficult jungle trek.

http://img.uodoo.com/s/mediana/s/2016/9/010e2e5ce28c6511151798c132ed17dbx479x342x28.jpeg

http://img.uodoo.com/s/mediana/s/2016/9/d0e501d7becd8c662674a86bd7a9f4fcx450x276x29.jpeg

Neil Armstrong (center) visited the cave in 1976:

http://img.uodoo.com/s/mediana/s/2016/9/8e45d96ed6af965e3d44199869a92badx479x341x24.jpeg

And here's what it looks like inside: (No crashed disks, no 'Avatar'-like environment :) )

http://img.uodoo.com/s/mediana/s/2016/9/6d20dcb9bf0fc16c2952867ee8f27f82x450x392x32.jpeg

http://img.uodoo.com/s/mediana/s/2016/9/27039f6fa47f2ef5624091dee061ffa5x400x300x27.jpeg

[AutumnW]

Is there an emoji for pants on fire? There should be. Emery's are on fire and Wilcock's are smouldering a little around the cuffs.

He lifted this right out of Avatar.

[ZoSo925]

Thanks! I can't wait to read all this. I was actually going to comment on Emery Smith in another thread but new thread is perfect.

This Emery guy makes me sick, he's like a glowing stick for lying.

[ZoSo925]

David Wilcock promised 2 Episodes in 1 week to be released back in early January but Gaia only released 1. This seems like a filler story

It's interesting there are no "New" episodes with Corey up until this Conscious Life Expo in LA recently. I'm wondering now if that delay in 1 video was to delay this storyline with 1 more Emery Smith video, until Corey finishes up the Life Expo event.

So that way, whatever new story Corey was saying at this Expo does not go out of Sync with Gaia - and we soon see a new episode next with Corey ?? The comment section on GaiaTV episodes... people are hating this Emery Smith and asking for Corey...and a reply from Gaia is Corey will be appearing soon

[Axman]

They had a TV show on this cave just a week or two ago I did not see any of what was described. What a joke

The Axman

[Gemma13]

This seems like a filler story



I'd say you've hit the nail on the head!

And we can’t forget the tidy little “plausible truth barometer trick” Emery and David cleverly use to ride on Corey’s popularity by having similarity to a suit Corey saw and used.

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-nazca-tunnels-and-super-suit-technology.html


David: Sure. And I want to point out that Corey Goode, when I brought this up to him, he said that they had this in his Secret Space Program, and he used them.


David: Well, it is interesting, because Corey's version of the suit is almost exactly the same as what you're saying.

It's a WIN-WIN for the trio. Wilcock has found sustainability, again! Emery leaps to spotlight as new kid on the block. And Corey gets a re-boot to his fading narrative.

[JRS]

It is obvious to me (after watching the interviews and checking the transcripts) that Emery Smith is not talking about Los Tayos cave. David had info from another source about something in Ecuador.

Emery asks David, "Did he call it a cave or...?

David replies, "He just said it was an underground complex."

Emery says, "Right. Its an underground complex....This place is highly guarded and has a really good security system."

It is obvious that Smith is not talking about Los Tayos. Does everyone here believe that Ecuador has only one cave? Ecuador is 109,483 square miles and a lot of it is tough jungle-as Bill can attest.
Besides Los Tayos, the website www.ecuadorboutiquetravel.com (a travel Ecuador site) lists 3 other cave systems available for tours in Ecuador: Jumandi, Logarto, and Chachi caves. My guess is that there are many other less accessible caves there.

Emery Smith never said Los Tayos is heavily guarded. He did say the "complex" he visited is.

I have a good friend (I would trust him with my life) who is a friend of Emery Smith's. My friend told me "Emery Smith is as honest as the day is long". So I personally accept that Smith's testimony may well be true. Everyone on this forum should use their own discernment.

[Bill Ryan]

Emery Smith didn't correct David when he suggested it was the same Ecuadorian underground complex as was visited by Neil Armstrong (who did most definitely visit Tayos Cave in 1976).

Smith could have easily made it crystal clear what he was talking about, but he didn't... he allowed David to lead him with suggestions, as he always does all his witnesses.

In my very strong opinion, also taking into account the very extreme (and unlikely!) testimony, I believe one can only conclude that he was fantasizing — for whatever reasons, knowingly or otherwise.

[Bill Ryan]

I have a good friend (I would trust him with my life) who is a friend of Emery Smith's. My friend told me "Emery Smith is as honest as the day is long".

Well, that's absolutely not true. I'll call him out on this, as well.

From the first episode:


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-emery-smith-whistleblower.html






Emery: I've not been threatened ever for any of that. The only time I was ever threatened is when I brought the DNA back from Atacama from Spain, illegally, from Barcelona.
And I thought when the government, when I was getting threatened, and they tried three assassination attempts on me...

David: I remember.

Emery: It was very horrifying. I thought it was because that I took the DNA from, you know, over there, brought it here, and snuck it to Stanford, and it had nothing to do with that.
It had to do with someone getting upset with me because I resigned and then putting three compartmentalized labs that, during my work with this group, had their own team, their own wet teams, we call them, to come and do the little dirty work. [A “wet team” is an assassination team.]
But I was able to get out of that, thank goodness, to help from, actually, the U.S. government. And some military and CIA officials, Army and CIA officials, really helped out and turned around and threatened back.
And it was not only me, but it was also another colleague of mine that were working on that Ata [Atacama] being. And it was... Immediately, everything stopped. And I thought they just told me when I was taken to the wet room, because I was escaping where I was in Florida, getting all these threats.
They just flew me right there, next thing you know. And I just said, “What did I do? Why am I here?”
And they just...

David: Now, just so people... in case they don't know, the “wet room” has got tile on the walls, the floor, a drain in the middle of the floor, and the “wet” is your blood, basically.

Emery: Yeah. It's equipped, you know... This is where they take people and kill them, and it's an easy clean up. You've got a nice, big drain, a bunch of hoses.

David: Right.

Emery: And a huge disinfectant system.

David: And you knew what this was when they took you into it.

Emery: Absolutely.

David: And you were very intimidated.

Emery: I've seen different types of wet rooms, not for humans, but for other things and other compartmentalized projects, but never in Washington, D.C.
So they just said, “You violated your contract.”
And I said, “Before you kill me, could you please show me and tell me where I violated my contract, and I'll be happy with that.”
I said, “You know EVERYTHING about me. You have your own satellite on me. You know every phone, text message. You know everything.” Everything is bugged. It's like, what did I do? Just tell me.
And eight hours later, I was sweating in this room, and they came back. They said, “We're very sorry, Mr. Smith. It was an internal problem, and you will never have to worry about that again. We apologize.”

David: Wow!
~~~

This is more fantastical invention and embellishment. I know the facts here.

Emery DID have 3 assassination attempts on him (and yes, they were all soon after he'd left Greer's team). But:


He was in Australia.
The assassination attempts were all sabotage on his vehicles (one of which was a motorcycle that had its steering interfered with).

More lies and fabricated drama from Emery. I know this for certain... I have irrefutable, detailed, rock solid witness audio testimony on all this (which to protect the sources I am not going to share or publish).

[Tam]

The possibility remains that Smith, like Corey, may sincerely believe what it is he is telling us, but is simply so heavily compromised that he's essentially become the new 'mouthpiece' for the MIC. It would make sense, too; what better way to stake out your enemy than to be your enemy?

[ZoSo925]

Is this Emery Smith a real doctor or any medical degrees ?

Emery seems very under-educated for a professional medical person. In the sense of the lack of his vocabulary. His flow of words and use of words are no different than a kid out of High School or young adult. I've never heard of a medical professional use such limited words. Never once used the term Incision that I recall and never used any proper medical terms or procedures that he even performed ?

This is a comedy show. Our government is going to hand the car keys over to this guy who has absolutely no clue what he is doing or proper medical experience ? At some point during these interviews Emery admits he is not sure what he is doing and just taking orders to take samples or cut here or there ?

[HaveBlue]

This Emery Smith chap is like Dan Burisch the second with his microbiology claims. I have no doubt Dan is a microbiologist and I also have no doubt he is CIA deep state trying to unseat President Trump, and therefore largely disinfo,

Emery tape is what we use in engineering. Like sandpaper for metal. Smith means to be a smith of something. Well at least they have a sense of humor!

[ZoSo925]

This is a great quote - " So I was basically taking tissue samples from whatever piece of tissue it was. "

Why don't they have Stevie Wonder just take the Tissue Samples ? :ROFL:

Emery never once mentions Respiratory System from any of these biological subjects and never compares organs or matter to compare with the human body. It's like they start to talk about what Emery did with very vague details, and then they venture off on some Adventure Story with twists and turns to distract you and then go into some Drama to spice things up and then back to Tissue Samples..whatever that means, and then back to another different Adventure Ride side-track story

Another good quote. Sounds like he is a 15yo boy talking - "And then the samples started getting more intact, where you could tell that, whoa, this is a hand, you know."

>

It seems as if Emery is just a stage actor of some sort and just re-acting a script or story on behalf of someone else. Maybe part of their goal is to force the government to come clean.

Long before the internet I came up with the idea myself that our government has some genetic humans deep inside caves and bases as secure as Area 51. A cloned human race with the help from the Nazi's. Why would our government need Emery or even soldiers stolen fighting in Iraq to fight some Space war ? They would have a whole cloned race

[ZoSo925]

This is great, just do a Youtube search for - Autopsy Technician

Pay attention to their talking and use of vocabulary. They talk like educated professionals


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[Did You See Them]

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: THE DANGERS OF BEING AN SSP WHISTLEBLOWER

Emery: And you can actually exchange information finally, freely, without being scared to do so. And just like some of the stuff I explained to you, you already knew some of this stuff.

David: Right.

Emery: And you knew I had . . . We've never even talked about it.

David: Right.

Emery: So for me, it's even a great confirmation, for me, to know that there's others out there that have spoken to you about these amazing technologies and places, especially the places, which blow me away.

David: Like the fact that Ecuador and Antarctica have very similar stuff.

Emery: Yes.

David: Yeah, and I've never said that to anyone . . .

Emery: Wow!


Why would Emery need confirmation about what he has seen !
Even he's going WOW now !

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-the-dangers-of-being-an-ssp-whistleblower.html

[ZoSo925]

I'd really like to see this Police Report of the damage done to the house.

Did they even file a Police Report ??

After all the Real-estate Agent called Emery and reported the discovered damage. The Real-estate Agent must think they are crazy nuts if they don't file a Police Report; especially when Emery stated on TV he was not aware of any mess

[mojo]

This is a Goode & Wilcock high level alien con fab you are authorized to hear..:)

Wilcock's own words is that we can trust Corey... End of story full stop... It's disappointing to hear him claim attacks when there are definite things he and Corey can do to support their testimony instead of we are being attacked...

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PS Bill, I wasn't sure to post here, if thread is in keeping with just Emery Smith material.. but did notice it was part 2 cosmic disclosure..

[Tam]

Is this Emery Smith a real doctor or any medical degrees ?

Emery seems very under-educated for a professional medical person. In the sense of the lack of his vocabulary. His flow of words and use of words are no different than a kid out of High School or young adult. I've never heard of a medical professional use such limited words. Never once used the term Incision that I recall and never used any proper medical terms or procedures that he even performed ?

This is a comedy show. Our government is going to hand the car keys over to this guy who has absolutely no clue what he is doing or proper medical experience ? At some point during these interviews Emery admits he is not sure what he is doing and just taking orders to take samples or cut here or there ?

While I agree that Smith seems questionable at best, to be fair, it is possible he's refraining from using medical terminology (ie, the 'incision' thing) in order to get the mass audience on board. Layman's terms, essentially. And while his vocabulary is certainly average, I suppose it is possible that some people just suck at speaking, especially in front of a camera.

Still, he does seem incredibly average, all those points notwithstanding.

[ZoSo925]

It's really weird though. Doctors and Lawyers are notorious for having sloppy handwriting, but when it comes to verbal and talking skills they are all advanced because they have gained a much advanced reading, studying and a wide range of new words.

Autopsy Technicians don't need much schooling compared to a real doctor though. Emery stated he claimed he performed over 3,000+ Autopsies or something. That is definitely a Medical genius in my book

[Tam]

All very true, yeah.

Something just doesn't sit right with the whole Cosmic Disclosure thing on so many levels. William Tompkins was the most credible witness there, but his book was TERRIBLE, and to me, it was clear that he was the victim of some serious mental tweaking.

David Adair, that dude that briefly popped up and that we never heard from again...that dude was similar to Emery Smith in that he seemed very uneducated for someone who was supposedly a mathematical/engineering genius, but even he seemed more legit than this Smith dude.

While I don't necessarily doubt Smith was involved in some secret operations (I don't necessarily believe it, either), there are enough glaring holes in his narrative that make his testimony rocky. He's the first person that I feel might just be outright bulls****ing though. Even Corey seems more genuine, which is saying a lot.

[Vernaianawa]

Lots of story creating from lots of people from lots of angles, close enough to a circus to just about laugh, for myself anyway.

Like to point out something not story made about so far and that's, when one is able to access sacred sites dimensionally, one will have a whole different story than someone that does not, also if one has not done the self work or know thyself journey, they will likely have a differing story to someone who has.

Do wish we could have clarity around who is who regarding the past and past deeds.

[ZoSo925]

I've come up with a whole new theory for all this hoopla but will take time to compose as my brain is mush right now. I totally understand now why they keep saying on the show - You don't want to know the answer - Or I Can't Say. It's a lame cop-out blanket statement that is always used a lot, but it actually is something that (A - Majority of Humans do not have any conception of the answer (B - They are using this to their advantage. This formula can be both A or B or both A + B

The last few episodes are a real snooze. I found a Cheat Guide to follow along with. There are just 6 Plots to every Story ever made

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3679510/There-just-SIX-plots-film-book-TV-Researchers-reveal-building-blocks-storytelling.html

[ZoSo925]

Black Swans rule the earth !!!!!!!!!

Here is a good one and this is pure speculation. This whole show is setup and designed this way and everyone is all in on it. For more critical thinkers we read between the lies. What if all of this is just Nerd-Porno for all of us and we are only suppose to get little bits of information while the other 85% is all BS and in a way is to help prepare us.

[coffee]

There's money to be made in the truth and enlightenment movement unfortunately. Who knows what we'll be told next or what the new trend will be?

[mojo]

Hi Bill,
Do you recall anything about Emery working with Greer? I seem to remember that name around the time of the first movie Sirius. Emery seemed to have come out of the blue and become part of Greer's inner circle. I think he went on some of his skywatch outings.

edit: I did find this video though.
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[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,
Do you recall anything about Emery working with Greer?

Yes, Emery was part of Greer's core team for a number of years. He was one of the group who all left CSETI at the same time in early 2013.

[Did You See Them]

Hi Bill,
Do you recall anything about Emery working with Greer?

Yes, Emery was part of Greer's core team for a number of years. He was one of the group who all left CSETI at the same time in early 2013.

.. and whilst he was at CSETI - did he open his mouth in any way shape or form that would even give the slightest hint that he knew more of what he is saying now ?

[MorningFox]

I have irrefutable, detailed, rock solid witness audio testimony on all this (which to protect the sources I am not going to share or publish).

My instincts tell me that Wilcock has lost his mind and Corey Goode is full of crap. Both wrapped in ego. I haven't seen anything on this Emery character yet. However, Bill, your reasons for discrediting him seem extremely off to me. First of all, claims of having anonymous audio is absolutely proof of nothing. Ever. That means nothing. At all.

Plus, you're assuming he must be talking about the cave that you've been to.... but why? I'm sure there are plenty more caves in Ecuador. Even if it's the exact same one.... he said 'underground complex'.... You've just been in to the cave, right? I'm not saying there's a complex hidden underneath, but just because you've been there, that doesn't mean you can say for sure there's not more going on there.

I would guess that he's full of nonsense if he's associating with these other two nutters, but still, sorry, I had to pull you up on these two pieces of odd 'debunking' because they don't really hold any weight, whatsoever and it all seems a little personal.

[Bill Ryan]

First of all, claims of having anonymous audio is absolutely proof of nothing. Ever. That means nothing. At all.

Thanks for the questions, and I can offer a clarification, in case there was a misunderstanding. The audio isn't anonymous. I know exactly who it is. I'm just not going to make that public.

If you'd prefer to disregard that, of course that's fine. And if you feel I shouldn't have said anything at all, that's fine, too! My intention was simply to share what I know with forum members... going as far as I reasonably can.


Plus, you're assuming he must be talking about the cave that you've been to.... but why?

Do please read Philip Coppens' article (http://philipcoppens.com/metal_libr.html). (I've not been there, by the way: it's very famous — 'legendary' might be a better word! — but it's extremely hard to get to.)

For anyone who knows anything about the Tayos Cave, it's obvious that Emery's making a reference to the same place (including his implied agreement with David Wilcock's reference to Neil Armstrong's 1976 visit) — also adding a significant amount of fantastical embellishment. (Do read the article (http://philipcoppens.com/metal_libr.html), which is fascinating. There's a whole Avalon thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8789-Does-the-metal-library-really-exist) about it, too, and quite a lot of other material about it on the net, including some old videos.)

[Bill Ryan]

.. and whilst he was at CSETI - did he open his mouth in any way shape or form that would even give the slightest hint that he knew more of what he is saying now ?

I think that's a really important question. The answer, as best I know, is not at all.

Even when he was close to Greer and very much in his core inner circle, if he ever told Greer anything, Greer never mentioned the tiniest thing about it.

[Rawhide68]

Just listened to latest intervew with Mr Smith on Fade to Black G2w1iCY84BE I find it very hard to take this person seriously in any way at all. What bothers me as well is the of the amount of thumbs up this interview gets, almost no critical comments at all ?

[Cidersomerset]

I find it very hard to take this person seriously in any way at all. What bothers me as
well is the of the amount of thumbs up this interview gets, almost no critical comments at all ?

I just saw this posted on F2B and I'm glad you posted it and I won't rush to listen to the interview.....

[Honesty]

Someone should do a reverse speech analysis of these interviews. No wonder the guy would not return my call or email. Who is playing who?...birds of a feather.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

This dude is busted.. and wilcock can’t be this daft, can he?

On one hand he tells us he’s taken into an assassination room, and he asks them why... they’ve got everything on him, satellite, etc, and he’s done nothing.

Then, we see this little exchange:




David: Do you think anybody has ever tried to get a mini disk out of the base?

Emery: Yes.

David: How might that be done?

Emery: It's tricky, but can be done, yeah.

David: Okay, you don't want to go into that.

Emery: Well, I had a few of the disks, yes.

David: You did?

Emery: Micro disk, yeah.

David: How might somebody be able to do that?

Emery: Well, I'd rather not say that part.

David: Okay. Okay.

So he publicly admits that he did something against the rules by having “a few” of these highly classified location tracking nano micro disks (that are apparently stored in space), but when he is brought into an assassination room, they say they’ve made a mistake and he’s free to go?

Wilcock and Gaia keep getting these folks who are spinning yarns that don’t make sense even from their own perspectives.

[Wind]

But it seems to make dough though.

[Mike]

Well I have to admit, I'm pretty impressed by Emery in this latest video with Church. He never misses a beat. Never. He's spontaneous, detailed, legitimately emotional at times (in my opinion), passionate, and very much on the ball.

Relax, I'm not saying I believe him:)

Truth be told, I don't know what to think of the man.

Bill has confirmation that there have been attempts on Smith's life several times. It appears Smith has lied about at least one of those attempts...but we pretty much know that, indeed, attempts have been made on his life. An intelligent mind must then ask: Why???

That doesn't mean he's exactly who he says he is, but it does mean he's a somebody

He tells his story flawlessly. His emotion seems genuine. He's everything Corey Goode isn't. He is either telling the truth about a large portion of his story, or he is one hell of an actor..and impeccably prepared to boot. Like Andy Basiago, he seems to really believe what he is saying. Perhaps there is some mind control involved. Not sure.

What does all of this mean?

Not sure. Joe has revealed an inconsistency above. And Bill exposed the whole Ecuadorian cave fiasco, along with what appears to be some lies about one of the assassination attempts.

I remain skeptical, very, but I find him to be infinitely more believable than Goode, Basiago, Kramer etc. It is a wild story, no doubt, but there are no age or time regressions, there's no ambassadorship, no posturing as savior and so forth.

I think it would be almost as careless to completely write the man off as it would be to completely embrace his story.

Ultimately, without any kind of evidence, his story is basically useless. I might revisit that notion if he ever agrees to a polygraph or a regression. Meanwhile, I'm not prepared to completely dismiss him.

[9ideon]

(Mr. Ryan) Bill, you have been there (those caves). Have you seen that stone outside which Stan Hall is photographed with? There has been a lot of talk about this being part of a larger setup (a larger system of caves) where more could be found...

https://s17.postimg.org/xsx5vasen/Moricz-_Hall_1975.05.jpg

http://www.goldlibrary.com/

Has anyone ever been able to figure out that "writing" on the slab?

Sorry to go slightly off-topic here btw.

I'll make it up by saying, I am happy this Forum pays attention to hoaxers and specifically the ones getting a lot of attention, I never liked Wilcock, he's got deceitful eyes (although I do use his Pineal gland presentation on my site because I think it's not badly researched). Don't like that Smith guy either, something from a while back, can't remember, like made my spine shiver stuff (Goode has that effect on me too btw).

:cheers:

[Sunny-side-up]

Mad Scientist, Off my head, it looks like a map.

[9ideon]

Mad Scientist, Off my head, it looks like a map.

Exactly!

:cheers:

[Joe from the Carolinas]

If anyone’s interested, I shot this video as a preliminary on Smith so there’s an anchor point to return to when his story changes. This is most certainly not designed to be a comprehensive video summary of all of the problems with his story.

Quick summary- In listening to his 3 hour interview with church he did drop some supposedly incoming observable events over the course of the next few years. He said more of his co-workers and supervisors will be going public. Also he said the ice in Antarctica is melting in 2 years which will reveal some kind of giant ship that will force disclosure.



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[Foxie Loxie]

Another "delightful" video from our own resident "Will Rogers"!! :star::star: Aw.....shucks! :highfive:

[Did You See Them]

Smith's latest is space grown Bio Ships !
Reminds me somewhat of the "Flight of the Navigator" film !
Lets see if we can "predict" his next species ?
I thought of "Hot Rocks" ( aka the Source "A" fiasco ) akin to Star Treks' OS - "Devil in the Dark" episode but what others are readers going to be treated to ?
Place your bets !

[Pam]

Does anyone know if he is selling trinkets yet?

[Soullight]

Just listened to latest intervew with Mr Smith on Fade to Black G2w1iCY84BE I find it very hard to take this person seriously in any way at all. What bothers me as well is the of the amount of thumbs up this interview gets, almost no critical comments at all ?

He sounded nervous or hyped up in the early part of the interview. But for me he seems totally legit and I would find it hard for anyone who really listens to this to doubt his legitimacy. I’m sold on him after hearing this for sure!

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Just listened to latest intervew with Mr Smith on Fade to Black G2w1iCY84BE I find it very hard to take this person seriously in any way at all. What bothers me as well is the of the amount of thumbs up this interview gets, almost no critical comments at all ?

He sounded nervous or hyped up in the early part of the interview. But for me he seems totally legit and I would find it hard for anyone who really listens to this to doubt his legitimacy. I’m sold on him after hearing this for sure!

What specifically about Smith during this interview seems totally legit to you?

I like the fact that he is saying that he will be introducing his superiors and co-workers to the world to disclose more.

His story seems intriguing to me, because (right now) he is not claiming to “verify” the stories of any other supposed whistleblower.

I also like that he clearly states he is NOT a whistleblower.

And he has not yet used he phrase “20 and back”, which gives him a little more leeway for me.

[Shadowself]

They're all hoaxers.

Legit?

Turn on the internet for your degree in exopolitics... join the latest group that feeds on each other to pull together as a team. Backing each other to provide the latest proof that this is indeed real.

I don't think one of them can keep a real job to become gainfully employed. Just look at Corey! The dude could not keep a stead job. But perhaps that was the continued use of drugs that did that. I mean he and his wife must have been high a good part of the time. Does anybody know what effect meth has on the teeth and gums? Then to top it off he expects his followers to donate to the cause of his wife's dental problems which I'd bet donuts to dollars was caused by heavy meth use.

Rumor has it she has been on and off again in rehab. And what about Corey? I can just picture his paranoia under the influence of drugs that he needs to have a gun by his side at all times! You just have to ask yourself if that paranoia is drug induced!

No....Corey, Emery, Jimmy Church and even David are riding the gravy train....

And what about the new kids on the block? They're putting out videos on the effects of the drugs they are pushing as to it's benefits. Tarot girl breaks up with the one destroying the illusion and runs straight into the arms of the ex heroin addict!

So what's the point you might say? Well if you can't keep a job while under the influence of drugs just say you're a time traveling 20 and backer and have proof (the other guys statements) which backs up the whole thing. Go to the nearest enlightenment an UFO conference and spill it all out...because the drugs are plentiful there too!

Tell a good enough story and and they are gonna love you! BTW....which one is Pink?

What's the name of the game? Riding the gravy train!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBfHpIRm5Qk

Haha...I must be feeling better!

Truth is....not one of them has done any legitimate research other than stealing the research of people who have worked their fingers to the bone only to hear their research being used in the make believe stories of these posers.

[Foxie Loxie]

:ROFL::ROFL: You made me laugh out loud, Dear Lady!! This is precisely why I go by what I learned in all the EARLY Camelot videos when being a Whistleblower wasn't "in vogue"!! The Gravy Train principle also applies to religious circles as well....oh, heck! We all know the saying; "Follow The Money"!!!! It applies to anything humans are involved in; politics as well...'ya think?!! :pound:

[HaveBlue]

Shadowself, thank you for your post as it saved me from spending the time typing out much the same thing. I agree with your opinions 100%

I note that Steven Greer recently spent 2 hours on Carol Rosins show explaining that his Attaman skeleton creature is NOT just a deformed human foetus. He said it was only 90% human, which is a huge deal as a cow has more DNA similar to ours than that. Being that as it may Dr Greer made no mention of Emery Smith during the entire interview that I recall. I may be mistaken but I doubt it as I was listening out for the name but never heard it. If he did it was so briefly that I missed it, and I am usually a careful listener and do not miss much.
This is important as Emery Smith was supposed to be one of if not 'the' main scientist doing the DNA/ gene work on this creature at the beginning.

Generally I note Dr Greer does not tend to smear others if he can help it but neglects to mention them at all. Sometimes it is very obvious, other times it is more subtle. He is trying to be professional and I respect that but sometimes he just has to name names. He tries to be nice about it when mentioning the likes of Corey Goode and David Wilcock, Tom De (sch)Longe and his CIA friends etc...

Dr Steven Greer Urgent Special: Stanford Atacama Coverup New Info/Message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9lYkt5u9CM&t=0s

I see this is a re-upload by Vinny Eastwood, I am unsure of the original date of this show.

[mojo]

Here is Jimmy Church with Emery reviewing some of the controversies. Bill if you read this, what is your assessment on Jimmy Church and how he fits into all the other stories/controversies like Corey Goode and now he is big personality on the coast to coast also of another personality Tom DeLonge?
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[Bill Ryan]

Bill if you read this, what is your assessment on Jimmy Church...?


Arrogant
Self-aggrandizing
Narcissistic
Ambitious
Unwilling to face to up to genuinely difficult issues.

[TomKat]

Something he said in the Church interview, I haven't heard before. He said that the US military is only guarding bases that are actually leased and run by the global corporate govt companies, such as Northrop, and the military doesn't have any authority over these bases. That provides a perspective I've never entertained before, and it rings true.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Shadowself, thank you for your post as it saved me from spending the time typing out much the same thing. I agree with your opinions 100%

I note that Steven Greer recently spent 2 hours on Carol Rosins show explaining that his Attaman skeleton creature is NOT just a deformed human foetus. He said it was only 90% human, which is a huge deal as a cow has more DNA similar to ours than that. Being that as it may Dr Greer made no mention of Emery Smith during the entire interview that I recall. I may be mistaken but I doubt it as I was listening out for the name but never heard it. If he did it was so briefly that I missed it, and I am usually a careful listener and do not miss much.
This is important as Emery Smith was supposed to be one of if not 'the' main scientist doing the DNA/ gene work on this creature at the beginning.

Generally I note Dr Greer does not tend to smear others if he can help it but neglects to mention them at all. Sometimes it is very obvious, other times it is more subtle. He is trying to be professional and I respect that but sometimes he just has to name names. He tries to be nice about it when mentioning the likes of Corey Goode and David Wilcock, Tom De (sch)Longe and his CIA friends etc...

Dr Steven Greer Urgent Special: Stanford Atacama Coverup New Info/Message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9lYkt5u9CM&t=0s

I see this is a re-upload by Vinny Eastwood, I am unsure of the original date of this show.

Quite true, and Greer makes a few logical leaps on his issue. There is absolutely a connection between the latest ata research article and emery smith. He’s one of the listed authors of the bloody thing. Since you posted the link to the carol rosin interview with Greer, I’ll crosspost here my video response. In this video I go through Greer’s allegations, detail the connection with emery smith, and cover the actual results of the research.

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[Joe from the Carolinas]

Bill if you read this, what is your assessment on Jimmy Church...?


Arrogant
Self-aggrandizing
Narcissistic
Ambitious
Unwilling to face to up to genuinely difficult issues.


Personally all of those things for me and:

-very difficult to comprehend. He uses “ahhhhhhhhhh” and ““Ummmmm “ too much. When I first heard him, I honestly thought he was an amateur podcaster who won a contest to be on radio for 1 show segment.

[Bill Ryan]

We received this e-mail today (name provided but redacted here), which I think is important to post in full.

~~~




I just received proof from researching the Navy Seal database via another Seal, that Emery Smith's claim to be a Navy Seal is completely false. I heard him speak at Contact in the Desert. My lie detector was off the chart.

[Bill Ryan]

We received this e-mail today (name provided but redacted here), which I think is important to post in full.

~~~




I just received proof from researching the Navy Seal database via another Seal, that Emery Smith's claim to be a Navy Seal is completely false. I heard him speak at Contact in the Desert. My lie detector was off the chart.


Here's the original confirmation, just received. Spread it far and wide. :)

~~~



Sir,

I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. My efforts to expose SEAL imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my fallen SEAL Teammates… men who truly earned the right to the title “US NAVY SEAL” but who are no longer able to stand forward in defense of their honor, their reputations, and their TEAMs.

If the name you provided is spelled correctly, I do NOT find a listing in the SEAL Database (SEAL Teams, Underwater Demolition Teams and predecessor units from 1943 to the Present Day) for anyone named EMORY/EMERY SMITH.I have also examined possible alternate spellings, and names with similar pronunciations without finding any that appear to be applicable.

Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a legal name change (an action for which there would be evidence in the form of court documentation) since his claimed participation in SEAL training, and based upon the information you have provided, I can state conclusively that EMORY/EMERY SMITH NEVER COMPLETED SEAL TRAINING, and he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL or a Navy Underwater Demolition Team member.

Countless SEAL Imposters show proof of their SEAL claims in the form of SEAL Insignia (Tridents), SEAL Coins, SEAL Award Citations, and SEAL Training Graduation certificates which are unfortunately all available on-line. Numerous others get SEAL Tattoos, Photoshop their faces on SEAL Pictures and alter actual Military Discharge Papers to show SEAL service. Myriads of imposters claim the Navy removed their name from the SEAL Database when they encountered trouble during their service and nothing could be further from the truth.

Many SEAL imposters when confronted with the information I have provided will resort to claiming that their records are sealed, burned or their SEAL Operations were classified as Secret and that there are no official records of them. Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a SEAL Operator, a man must first successfully complete the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those who successfully graduate from that training program sequence are compiled in the SEAL database. Later participation in classified operations has "NO IMPACT" on whether or not a person is listed as a graduate of the training program.

There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs.

When discovering that a person was never a SEAL, many people would like know what that person actually did in the military or did he serve at all. For a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request of that person’s military service you should contact www.pownetwork.org (http://www.pownetwork.org) and provide the necessary information. A $20 donation will cover the cost. Please inform POW Network that I have verified the SEAL claim when contacting them.

Thank you again for your concern in this matter, and for your assistance in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams. If I can be of any further assistance to you in this matter, please contact me at your convenience.

Respectfully, Don Shipley BUD/S 131, SEAL Team ONE, SEAL Team TWO.
Owner http://videos.extremesealexperience.com (http://videos.extremesealexperience.com/), http://extremesealadventures.com (http://www.extremesealadventures.com/)

[onawah]

Can anyone inform me as to where/when Smith claimed to be a Navy Seal?
Thanks!

[Bill Ryan]

Can anyone inform me as to where/when Smith claimed to be a Navy Seal?
Thanks!

I believe he stated it in his recent Contact in the Desert presentation. That's what prompted the person who wrote to me to ask Don Shipley to confirm. If Smith also stated that in a Gaia interview, someone with account access might check.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Interesting. I wonder where all of the videos of the activities at CITD are located, it’s been tough finding much more than a few minutes here or there.

[Bill Ryan]

Can anyone inform me as to where/when Smith claimed to be a Navy Seal?
Thanks!

I believe he stated it in his recent Contact in the Desert presentation. That's what prompted the person who wrote to me to ask Don Shipley to confirm. If Smith also stated that in a Gaia interview, someone with account access might check.

I asked my correspondent to confirm, and I just received the reply.

~~~



Yes, it was at Contact in the Desert on the last night. He stated he missed the special suits which allowed him to jump 100 feet when he was a Navy Seal.

Let me qualify that statement by saying that this comment was made while he hosted an outdoor CE5 event. I doubt any of this would have been taped. Apparently he worked with Dr. Steven Greer and uses the same sound signaling techniques to "invite" extraterrestrials to signal back or show themselves.

It would be interesting to find out if Dr. Greer actually sanctioned use of his techniques. We were there from 2300-0100 Sunday night. We saw nothing. 300 people bought tickets at $25 each so he made a pretty penny that night.

[onawah]

If anyone at that event taped it or recorded it, that would be priceless!

[HaveBlue]

The Emery Tape! A bit rough, scratchy, and abrasive. Available as long as you want about an inch wide and a millimetre deep :)

[WalterBosley]

YES! Don Shipley does it again!

Bill, I'm working on whether Smith's outdoor session in question was recorded. I'll let you know when my source replies...

[WalterBosley]

No news yet, re whether the Smith talk was recorded.

[mojo]

Wilcock seems to be the connection between these fake kahunas like Cory Goode, Bill Wood, and with Emery Smith it goes to a whole new level as we hear his well thought out answers which would make any normal person question their sanity as he sounds so professional. But one part of his story the Navy Seal claim could be a big undoing. But Wilcock through all this should be held to account, his lack of vetting hurts him and definitely this field. Also money is their motivating factor... They do nothing to help the people on the front lines of research and field work.

[onawah]

If Smith's claim to have been a Navy Seal was recorded and it was a lie, it will definitely put a big kink in that whole production.
I know an ex-Navy SEAL personally, and there is a very high level of mutual loyalty and respect for each other among the SEALs.
Anyone who disrespects them is really asking for trouble.

Wilcock seems to be the connection between these fake kahunas like Cory Goode, Bill Wood, and with Emery Smith it goes to a whole new level as we hear his well thought out answers which would make any normal person question their sanity as he sounds so professional. But one part of his story the Navy Seal claim could be a big undoing. But Wilcock through all this should be held to account, his lack of vetting hurts him and definitely this field. Also money is their motivating factor... They do nothing to help the people on the front lines of research and field work.

[Mike]

Here's his profile from what is being called "the official Emery website". Nothing about Navy Seals in there.
https://emerysmith.net/

There's a 'contact' option that allows anyone to ask Emery a question. So I just asked him, "were you ever a Navy Seal?"

Let's see if he responds.

[onawah]

It says he served 7 years in the military here (Air Force, presumably, as no mention of Navy SEALs): http://www.ntd.tv/2018/06/15/whistleblower-emery-smiths-fight-in-the-cure-for-cancer-disclosure/ and on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/emery.smith.921677
From his website here: https://emerysmith.net/

By age 10, Emery was awarded Lee County’s Sharpest Shooter by the Lee County Sheriff’s Department, in which he carried the title on into the military. In 1986, Emery volunteered to join Civil Air Patrol, an auxiliary of the air force, where he worked on a vast array of life saving missions. He obtained his single engine pilots license shortly thereafter, and became an EMT by age 16. During this time. Emery participated in all extracurricular activities that would advance his rank, knowledge and experience within the military. His time put into ARMY ROTC, the Lee County’s sheriff exlporer’s unit, and other advanced training courses paid off, and Emery quickly succeeded with accomplishing his goals.

In 1990, Emery became active duty in the USAF and was stationed at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas. From there, he went on to surgical tech training at Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, Texas, and then on to England AFB in the 23rd Tactical Fighter Wing, located in Alexandria Louisiana, where he worked as a surgical technologist and surgical first assist. Finally, Emery was transferred to Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where he worked on and off base at UNM Hospital as a surgical assist and as a paramedic. He was certified in surgical apprenticeship, and also worked as a HAZMAT instructor, EMT, terrorist negotiation coordinator, flight medic specialist, surgical technologist, expert marksman, chemical warfare specialist, biotech warfare specialist, and lead DECON response units, among other positions.

Certainly a lot of accomplishments, if true!

[mojo]

I went back to Bill's opening post to discern where to separate the fact from the fiction... And Bill has been to the cave and confirms nothing like he mentions which we know to be true.
This is what Emery said about the cave...

He's been there himself
It's a huge underground complex
There's a crashed disk there
There are remarkable species of unknown flora and fauna that "make AVATAR land look like a small school playground."

If we can get Emery to explain why people that have been to the cave have never seen what he states. Are there any other claims that Emery makes we know are false and are we satisfied with the statement in onawah's post showing no claim to being a Navy Seal? Knowing his response to the claims will help determine the validity better, at least if it was myself I would want a chance to respond to accusations. Emery say's things in his interview with Wilcock that rings true to me for example he mentioned the craft was a lifeform which the one witnessed here in Oregon would agree it had biological aspects.

I like what Mike said on page 3 and thats why I feel we should hear his responses.

Well I have to admit, I'm pretty impressed by Emery in this latest video with Church. He never misses a beat. Never. He's spontaneous, detailed, legitimately emotional at times (in my opinion), passionate, and very much on the ball.

[Andrew_K]

BREAKING!:patsak:

Emery Smith just came out on radio saying he's a NASA astronaut with three PhDs.

The host of the show he was on does not believe in extraterrestrial conspiracies, which made things even worse for Emery. He started grilling Emery towards the end, saying that enlisted personnel cannot act as surgeons. Emery was booted off the show soon after that.

You can listen to the whole trainwreck here: https://player.siriusxm.com/query/all%20out%20show. Look for today's episode and click on it.

Edit: It was a guest who grilled him about his alleged career as a mortician. Also, the guest seems to be interested in the fringe, but he surely didn't buy Emery's story.

[RunningDeer]

BREAKING!:patsak:

Emery Smith just came out on radio saying he's a NASA astronaut with three PhDs.

The host of the show he was on does not believe in extraterrestrial conspiracies, which made things even worse for Emery. He started grilling Emery towards the end, saying that enlisted personnel cannot act as surgeons. Emery was booted off the show soon after that.

You can listen to the whole trainwreck here: https://player.siriusxm.com/query/all%20out%20show. Look for today's episode and click on it.

Andrew_K, can you log in and add a direct link here?

[Andrew_K]

Andrew_K, can you log in and add a direct link here?

The layout of the site is not intuitive, but I'll try.

[RunningDeer]

Andrew_K, can you log in and add a direct link here?

The layout of the site is not intuitive, but I'll try.
If not, a second suggestion is grab the title heading and I/we can run a search to see if anyone else has commented on it. Thanks in advance. :wave:


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/scratch-thinker.gif And our boy has three?

https://i.imgur.com/B9Uhbis.jpg

[Kristin]

:coffee: Gads, these guys are crashing and burning all over the place. Nice catch Andrew K! I'd eat some popcorn if I wasn't afraid I'd choke on it from laughing too hard.

[Mike]

Here's his profile from what is being called "the official Emery website". Nothing about Navy Seals in there.
https://emerysmith.net/

There's a 'contact' option that allows anyone to ask Emery a question. So I just asked him, "were you ever a Navy Seal?"

Let's see if he responds.



Predictably, I never heard from Emery. I was quite polite, I wished him well (and meant it) but he didn't answer the question.

Like the quote in Mojo's post above says (where he quoted me), i was impressed by Emery's demeaneor and apparent sincerity during his initial interviews. Look, if he's making it all up, he's quite good!

You can't really debunk anyone who doesn't offer up anything falsifiable. Like Corey, Emery doesn't really commit to anything concrete, therefore he cannot be proven to be mendacious. Although, as a witness, he's 100x more convincing than Corey, in my view.

Even this cave system in Peru, where he supposedly saw UFO's and all that...it can't really be debunked. Bill posted quite a bit about that cave system, some pics of it, explaining why Emery's claim was nonsense and so forth. But if confronted with that info, a slickster like Emery would simply say something like, it's a huge cave system...the UFO's were in a different spot than the areas those pics depicted. These guys are slippery; they have an answer for everything...answers that can neither be proven nor disproven fully.

I think he's telling the truth about some things and lying about others. To what end?...i'm not sure. Like the attempts on his life, for example, appear to really have happened (as opposed to the overdramtizations of a Wilcock) but it seems he lied about some of the details, like where they happened. On the surface, there doesn't appear to be any reason for that type of lie. So it's all rather confusing.

[Kristin]

Any luck on that link Andrew? Which show had you been listening to?

[Kristin]

BREAKING!:patsak:

Emery Smith just came out on radio saying he's a NASA astronaut with three PhDs.

The host of the show he was on does not believe in extraterrestrial conspiracies, which made things even worse for Emery. He started grilling Emery towards the end, saying that enlisted personnel cannot act as surgeons. Emery was booted off the show soon after that.

You can listen to the whole trainwreck here: https://player.siriusxm.com/query/all%20out%20show. Look for today's episode and click on it.

Andrew, I'm afraid I can't find any evidence of Emery doing a show earlier today anywhere on the internet. Any help here would be appreciated ;) That's a pretty big statement you made, we need to back it up with proof for other readers on the forum to substantiate the claim. Thank you in advance.

ps. more than happy to help with a little more info :)

[Andrew_K]

Andrew, I'm afraid I can't find any evidence of Emery doing a show earlier today anywhere on the internet. Any help here would be appreciated ;) That's a pretty big statement you made, we need to back it up with proof for other readers on the forum to substantiate the claim. Thank you in advance.

ps. more than happy to help with a little more info :)

So far, I am not able to provide a direct link. I have, however, made a recording of the interview in case it is not archived. If it's legal and if I have permission, I could post it.

I didn't know it would be so difficult to access the show. Emery does, in fact, say he was "an astronaut with NASA" and that he has three PhDs, whatever that may mean to Emery.

[Kristin]

Thanks Andrew for getting back to us on this. Glad you made a recording. Which show was it?

[Andrew_K]

Thanks Andrew for getting back to us on this. Glad you made a recording. Which show was it?

It's called The All Out Show. Refresh the link I posted after pressing the button that says to listen without an account. The particular episode was from 4:00-7:00 EST.

Edit: It should be the first result that comes up.

[Kristin]

Thanks Andrew :)

[norman]

I'm into the list of The All Out Show archives but there's nothing after June 28th.

[Kristin]

I just sent The All Out Show a Link to our thread here and asked if they would like to comment.

[Andrew_K]

I'm into the list of The All Out Show archives but there's nothing after June 28th.

It's not up there yet. You have to search for the show manually from the homepage of SiriusXM.

[Kristin]

Norman, it's clearly on their Facebook Page, I'm curious as to how it went.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's the announcement.


https://twitter.com/AllOutShow

http://projectavalon.net/All_Out_Show_Emery_Smith.gif

[Kristin]

Well, John Mathews is the "All out Show" producer. He's confirmed that yes indeed the show did happen. I will wait to see if he's able to send me a more informative statement but that will have to do for now. Thanks again Andrew.

[Andrew_K]

Well, John Mathews is the "All out Show" producer. He's confirmed that yes indeed the show did happen. I will wait to see if he's able to send me a more informative statement but that will have to do for now. Thanks again Andrew.

You're welcome! The show is still up for listening. It says "Earlier Today" underneath.

[Kristin]

Andrew do you want me to ask John for permission to post a recording?

[Andrew_K]

Andrew do you want me to ask John for permission to post a recording?

Please do. People on the forum need to listen to this. I will have my recording prepared by tomorrow if he gives us permission. :biggrin:

[Bill Ryan]

Well, John Mathews is the "All out Show" producer. He's confirmed that yes indeed the show did happen. I will wait to see if he's able to send me a more informative statement but that will have to do for now. Thanks again Andrew.

You're welcome! The show is still up for listening. It says "Earlier Today" underneath.

What's the link?? Please let us know as specifically as possible... THX

[Kristin]

Done! :) Hope to hear back from him soon.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


BREAKING!:patsak:

Emery Smith just came out on radio saying he's a NASA astronaut with three PhDs.

The host of the show he was on does not believe in extraterrestrial conspiracies, which made things even worse for Emery. He started grilling Emery towards the end, saying that enlisted personnel cannot act as surgeons. Emery was booted off the show soon after that.

You can listen to the whole trainwreck here: https://player.siriusxm.com/query/all%20out%20show. Look for today's episode and click on it.

Edit: It was a guest who grilled him about his alleged career as a mortician. Also, the guest seems to be interested in the fringe, but he surely didn't buy Emery's story.

Right here Bill.

[Andrew_K]

Well, John Mathews is the "All out Show" producer. He's confirmed that yes indeed the show did happen. I will wait to see if he's able to send me a more informative statement but that will have to do for now. Thanks again Andrew.

You're welcome! The show is still up for listening. It says "Earlier Today" underneath.

What's the link?? Please let us know as specifically as possible... THX

There is no direct link that I know of. Your best chance is to use this link (https://player.siriusxm.com/query/all%20out%20show) and click on the first result. Refresh after closing the pop up asking you if you want to log in.

I'd like to have a word with whoever designed the site navigation. :smash:

[Kristin]

Andrew do you want me to ask John for permission to post a recording?

Please do. People on the forum need to listen to this. I will have my recording prepared by tomorrow if he gives us permission. :biggrin:

Permission Granted!

[Retief]

Just listened to it. Emery did state that he went through NASA training and was in fact an astronaut. He said he had three PhD's but I think he said he got them online. He was challenged by a caller about doing surgery as an enlisted man. I'm no professional in this field but I think he's delusional and I feel bad for him. I've had the misfortune to work with people like this (not to this extent though). In my experience they said they were Seals or Recon or something similar with no proof or even much knowledge of what they were claiming, in an environment where if they were or not didn't matter, they just seemed to need to inflate themselves. And, once again, in my experience it didn't end well for them (ruined life and family). I think he's being used by perhaps DW and others because he spins a good tale.

[RunningDeer]

I got sidetracked finding the radio show when I ran a search on YouTube and found this: ‘Emery Smith’s Dangerous Fight in the CURE for CANCER Disclosure [CITD 2018]’. It was worth 6-7 minutes even though he talks about things we already know. Smith is much different from that first video (OP (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1208249&viewfull=1#post1208249)). He's one of the gang and loving the limelight. I even caught a nano-second or two of the Jimmy Church voice.

I followed the links provided in the vid and surprise, surprise, DW @ ZeroCross.co (https://zerocross.co) & EmerySmith.net (https://emerysmith.net) - sells products + other stuff.


X16zqtFTZWQ

Edge of Wonder
Published on Jun 15, 2018

[Retief]

Btw, anyone here good at patent searches? I tried finding Emery's supposed patents at https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents searching by name and then subject with no luck. May be just operator error though.

[Shadowself]

I got sidetracked finding the radio show when I ran a search on YouTube and found this: ‘Emery Smith’s Dangerous Fight in the CURE for CANCER Disclosure [CITD 2018]’. It was worth 6-7 minutes even though he talks about things we already know. Smith is much different from that first video (OP (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1208249&viewfull=1#post1208249)). He's one of the gang and loving the limelight. I even caught a nano-second or two of the Jimmy Church voice.

I followed the links provided in the vid and surprise, surprise, DW @ ZeroCross.co (https://zerocross.co) & EmerySmith.net (https://emerysmith.net) - sells products + other stuff.


X16zqtFTZWQ

Edge of Wonder
Published on Jun 15, 2018

This video just insults me.

First off as to the question of how long does it take to get a PhD:

Well lets see. My granddaughter took 5 years (started out at Pasadena City College and transferred to UCLA) to get her bachelor's degree in 2016.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2a4pj4w.jpg



While she was getting her BD she was a research assistant at City of Hope.

http://i65.tinypic.com/34npai1.jpg

She transferred to UC San Diego because they offered her a fellowship due to her research in cancer. She was one of the youngest presenters at the American Cancer Society in 2016 for her research.

http://i64.tinypic.com/qoxaj7.jpg


This year she just received her Masters Degree in Biochemistry. She is currently working on her PhD. And just received this...I will only offer a partial of this message she received.

http://i66.tinypic.com/mrr1ok.jpg

Note the amount of times I used the word "research".....


Okay...I'm partially bragging as yes...I'm very proud of my granddaughter.....but here this idiot is saying he knows of cancer cures and he claims to have three PhD's.

I gotta laugh first....then it's just outright insulting. As some of you may know I have cancer and I keep telling her to hurry up because her goal someday is to cure cancer. She is also working on research alternatives to animal use in biomedical research.

Now seriously...3 PhD's? From an online source according to what I just read? There really are people sucker enough to believe that crap coming out of this guys mouth. There are people who actually DO THE WORK to get a PhD...then you have these liars and free riders who suck the life out of it.

[Gemma13]

How many car accidents, or near miss car accidents, have people had? How many have experienced burglaries or attempted burglaries? Etc Etc.

It always riles me how Emery, Goode, Wilcock et al ALWAYS use their only proof system for their stories from spinning experiences that the general population experience daily.

I could write an amazing, intriguing, action packed, thriller on my life experiences so far, wrap it all up into a grand conspiracy using ancient gods, aliens, space programs, etc and sell it as the be all and end all of truth. And anyone who didn’t buy it would be labeled a hater.
I have no doubt you could do the same.

The reason I am riled by the antics of these people is because of the abuse they inflict on genuine whistleblowers by exploiting their very real life threatening circumstances.

Look at it this way: There are people out there that go to court spinning great yarns whilst putting on a few crocodile tears to get a violent restraining order against an ex partner purely out of spite and just because they can.

Their self serving, selfish motivations are a direct violation and assault on very real victims of domestic violence and rape. Real victims constantly come under suspicion as to whether they are actually telling the truth because of the deceit of others exploiting the system.

And this places real victims in even greater danger because by default the charlatan’s actions not only support tyrants, they fuel them, because the tyrants risk factor of being prevented from abusing others is greatly diminished. It disgusts me no end!

It takes enormous courage for a true whistleblower with very real evidence to come forward knowing they and their loved ones could be murdered any day for the rest of their lives. How are they supposed to even weigh up making that sacrificial decision when these guys are constantly flooding the floor with propaganda just so they can make a few bucks from their creative storytelling.

These charlatans are producing infomercials but instead of selling fitness gear or kitchen utensils they are stealing real life tragedies and selling them for profit.

[RunningDeer]

Okay...I'm partially bragging as yes...I'm very proud of my granddaughter.....but here this idiot is saying he knows of cancer cures and he claims to have three PhD's.

I gotta laugh first....then it's just outright insulting. As some of you may know I have cancer and I keep telling her to hurry up because her goal someday is to cure cancer. She is also working on biomedical research alternatives to animal use in biomedical research.

Now seriously...3 PhD's? From an online source according to what I just read? There really are people sucker enough to believe that crap coming out of this guys mouth. There are people who actually DO THE WORK to get a PhD...then you have these liars and free riders who suck the life out of it.

Go right ahead and brag, Shadowself! Your beautiful granddaughter gets huge kudos from me. It takes a lot of time, effort, energy and dollars. Smith's claims struck a deep cord in me.

[Bill Ryan]

A brief note. Emery Smith used to work with Steven Greer. (He really did.) As best I know, Greer has been VERY silent on Smith.

Does anyone reading this have a good enough connection with Greer to ask him personally about Emery Smith? (I do not.)

[Gemma13]

From memory when looking into Emery and his connection with Greer it would probably be better for Greer to stay silent on Emery as they partnered up for a while doing (paid) workshops with groups of people out in the wilderness calling for ufo’s, studying ufo sightings, etc. There are videos online showing them together doing this.

If Greer was to debunk Emery he would essentially be debunking himself.

[Bill Ryan]

Andrew_K (thank you!) has just sent me the 'All Out Show' Emery Smith interview for posting:


http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_All_Out_Show_9_July_2018.mp3 (27 mins, 23 Mb)

[WalterBosley]

Listening now. This is quite an amusing interview. :ROFL:

[WalterBosley]

https://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/oral_histories/SmithEE/SmithEE_2-28-06.htm

The above link is to an interview of the Emery E. Smith who really was a NASA astronaut -- in the '60s!

[Andrew_K]

Before I summarize this, I want to say I made a mistake when I said Emery said he has three PhDs. What he really said was he has enough documentation on his website for three PhDs, which is also not true. (Sounds like something Wilcock would say.)

Anyway, here are the most significant points in this interview:


Emery had trouble recalling the three assassination attempts he faced. He told everyone the exact number of attempts there were on his life, but when the host asked him to go into detail, he took a while to recall them. You'd think a guy would remember the last three times someone tried to kill him. He then directed the listeners to read David Wilcock's blog if they want to know more about the attempts on his life. "It's all national news, what has happened to me," he said with his ego on full display.
At the 10:45 mark, he claims to have constructed a working zero-point energy device, which he claims is the reason behind the assassination attempts. (Since when was he an engineer?) He has shown no evidence that he has constucted such a thing, which could easily be provided in the form of a photograph or video. Also, he would be dead like everyone else who constructed working zero-point energy devices.
At the 18:48 mark, Emery says he can't agree with the Flat Earth Theory because he's "an astronaut with NASA." The host, understandably astonished, asked if he just revealed that. When confronted with this question, Emery's phone immediately went off the hook, and he blamed it on the Cabal once he came back. He picked up the conversation where he left off with a modified story, saying "I was with the Space Coast (?) Aeromedical Institute back in the day," a far cry from being a NASA astronaut.
[What I think really happened was Emery cut his own line to give himself enough time to brainstorm a way to backpedal on his statement. He didn't expect to be questioned.]
A guest challenged him on his background, saying you need to be an officer and have a medical degree to be a surgeon in the military. Emery sardonically remarked that he has enough documentation on his website for three PhDs. The guest repeated that he would need to be an officer in the military to have a medical degree, and Emery caved in saying he wasn't a surgeon. The guest said Emery was doing DNA sampling, which requires a medical degree.

On Emery's website, it says,

In 1990, Emery became active duty in the USAF and was stationed at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas. From there, he went on to surgical tech training at Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, Texas, and then on to England AFB in the 23rd Tactical Fighter Wing, located in Alexandria Louisiana, where he worked as a surgical technologist and surgical first assist. Finally, Emery was transferred to Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where he worked on and off base at UNM Hospital as a surgical assist and as a paramedic. He was certified in surgical apprenticeship, and also worked as a HAZMAT instructor, EMT, terrorist negotiation coordinator, flight medic specialist, surgical technologist, expert marksman, chemical warfare specialist, biotech warfare specialist, and lead DECON response units, among other positions.

These positions allowed him to work under various specialized surgeons, where each individual taught him multiple procedures and various ways on how to perform them.
Seven references to surgery on his bio, but he tells us he wasn't a surgeon.

Finally, Emery denigrated the audience by saying that those who don't believe his claims are simply "not educated enough" to understand his claims. The host followed up saying "Not everyone's an astronaut."

[Bill Ryan]

You missed

10:45 — "After completing the validation of this device I made that makes energy from nothing..."

[Andrew_K]

You missed

10:45 — "After completing the validation of this device I made that makes energy from nothing..."


I ignored that because I'd heard him say that elsewhere, but I should go in and add that too, since it's also unfounded.

[Bill Ryan]

He picked up the conversation where he left off with a modified story, saying "I was with the Space Coast (?) Aeromedical Institute back in the day,"

I listened to it several times, and I think he does say that. (He repeats it later, too. See below.)


https://cylex.us.com/company/space-coast-aeromedical-institute-11146742.html

~~~
Keywords
Vocational Education, Parking, Airport Transportation, Flight Instruction, services, Hyperbaric Services
The company Space Coast Aeromedical Institute is listed in the following categories:
Transportation (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/transportation/)
Transportation Services (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/transportation-services/)
Taxi Service (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/taxi-service/)
Education (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/education/)
Schools (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/schools/)
Data Processing Schools (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/data-processing-schools/)
Education (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/education/)
Schools (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/schools/)
Vocational Schools (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/vocational-schools/)
Transportation (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/transportation/)
Public Transportation (https://www.cylex.us.com/melbourne/public-transportation/)
Astronaut training wasn't listed.

Here's the address:
Space Coast Aeromedical Institute (https://www.cylex.us.com/company/space-coast-aeromedical-institute-11146742.html)
1698 West Hibiscus Boulevard
Melbourne, FL 32901
(321) 676-3200
And here's the website.


http://sami-aeromedical.com

Extract:
Southern AeroMedical Institute is a unique facility where providing Pilots with advanced High Altitude Chamber Training is our highest mission.
~~

A caller at 24:35 says: "You said you worked for NASA, right?"
Smith clarifies: "I worked for the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, which was contracted out by NASA, yes."

[ThePythonicCow]

He picked up the conversation where he left off with a modified story, saying "I was with the Space Coast (?) Aeromedical Institute back in the day,"

I listened to it about half a dozen times, included slowed right down, and I think he does say that.


https://cylex.us.com/company/space-coast-aeromedical-institute-11146742.html

~~~
Keywords
Vocational Education, Parking, Airport Transportation, Flight Instruction, services, Hyperbaric Services

[INDENT]...
Extract:
Southern AeroMedical Institute is a unique facility where providing Pilots with advanced High Altitude Chamber Training is our highest mission.

It would not surprise me to see a facility with a hyperbaric chamber, aka high altitude chamber, not have "astronaut training" listed in the rather generic categories that a "Business Directory" service such as Cyclex.us.com chooses, even though pilots, and astronauts as one particular sort of pilot, were important users of that chamber.

[Bill Ryan]

He picked up the conversation where he left off with a modified story, saying "I was with the Space Coast (?) Aeromedical Institute back in the day,"

I listened to it about half a dozen times, included slowed right down, and I think he does say that.


https://cylex.us.com/company/space-coast-aeromedical-institute-11146742.html


~~~

Keywords
Vocational Education, Parking, Airport Transportation, Flight Instruction, services, Hyperbaric Services

...Extract:
Southern AeroMedical Institute is a unique facility where providing Pilots with advanced High Altitude Chamber Training is our highest mission.

It would not surprise me to see a facility with a hyperbaric chamber, aka high altitude chamber, not have "astronaut training" listed in the rather generic categories that a "Business Directory" service such as Cyclex.us.com chooses, even though pilots, and astronauts as one particular sort of pilot, were important users of that chamber.

The point is that he exaggerates and embellishes. HUGELY.

Working with hyberbaric chambers in a small specialized medical facility in Florida, becomes "working for NASA", becomes "being an astronaut".

Just like being a junior assistant in various kinds of pathological examinations, as an auxiliary to highly qualified surgeons, becomes doing autopsies all on his own.

Just like reading about a rather interesting, mysterious and all-but-inaccessible cave in Ecuador on the internet somewhere, becomes that he was actually there.

Just like that he could maybe swim quite well when he was a kid, becomes that he was a Navy Seal.

And so on, and on, and on, and on. And on.

[B. Knoka]

Thank you for putting the interview out there!

At 20:20, he states ‘how are you going to tell me something when i’ve already seen something different’

Is he referring to himself as seeing the earth from space as an astronaut, or referring to the ‘concepts and trainings’ he received before he made that comment? (I honestly don’t believe he is\was an astronaut)

Soon after that he states it’s hard to grasp anything that you see cause everything is so fake and so much disinformation.

Can anyone find his publicly published papers he claims are at Harvard, Stanford, and Ohio state University. If I missed the links in a post elsewhere please direct me.

IMO poor performance by Mr. Smith.

[Bill Ryan]

(I honestly don’t believe he is\was an astronaut)



Here's the NASA astronaut website. All past and present astronauts (including those in training) are listed there.


https://nasa.gov/astronauts

[Shadowself]

Okay...I just could not resist this:

I copied this from his Linkden Account. Here are two companies he claims to own.

http://i63.tinypic.com/256wmy1.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/11b3x2x.jpg

Emery claims to be a 20 year owner of EmCyte.....Which means he currently owns it. Why the fund raiser if he owns this company????

First of all there is no such company as Gain Medical LTD located in FT myer Fl. But there is a company called Gian Biologics llc.

And both Gian Biologics llc.and emcyte are registered to this guy as CEO of both companies:

http://i68.tinypic.com/29ks6jm.jpg

I don't see Emery anywhere listed as owner of either...

https://www.emcyte.com/leadership.html

Plus....his Linkden is worse than Cory Goode's! You should check it out....

https://www.linkedin.com/in/emery-smith-699929112/

:thumbsdown:

[Gemma13]

One of the many inflated claims on his Bio:

Owner and Inventor Emcyte Corporation
August 1999 – Present Fort Myers, Florida Area
Cellular Biomedical Device Manufacturer

https://www.emcyte.com/



On Emcyte website they have this following statement about Emery:

https://emcyte.com/about-us/mission-quality-policy/8-pure-category/27-store-offline-for-updates.html


Corporate Statement (2015) RE: Emery Smith

Emery Smith is not authorized to negotiate on behalf of EmCyte Corporation or represent EmCyte Corporation in any way. He is not employed by EmCyte Corporation. His statements, proposals, views and medical opinions are independently attained and do not represent the views, position, intention or direction of EmCyte Corporation. Though his information may be helpful to some, it is not considered authentic by EmCyte Corporation or representative of https://www.cialissansordonnancefr24.com/ EmCyte Corporation. His information has neither been reviewed, verified, or approved by EmCyte's Regulatory Department or EmCyte's senior leadership. This statement is made by EmCyte's leadership and legal team on behalf of the solvency and integrity EmCyte Corporation. For further questions please call our main office at 239-481-7725.

Senior Management & Legal Department
EmCyte Corporation



ooops sorry Emery and Wilcock - some of us actually dig deeper and read the fine print :p

[Shadowself]

High 5 Gemma! Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:blackwidow:


Just a note that link is wonky....

https://emcyte.com/about-us/mission-quality-policy/8-pure-category/27-store-offline-for-updates.html


Gemma you're the bomb!

[Gemma13]

The point is that he exaggerates and embellishes. HUGELY.



:thumbsup: Yup It’s a trademark pattern with ALL of Wilcock’s insiders. Folloooow the pattern. It all leads back to Wilcock and his writing craft for propaganda and exploitation.

I’ve always loved the classic cleaner job title inflations of “sanitary engineer” or “environmental maintenance officer”. As a mother they also work :sun:

[Gemma13]

I know many people don't have time to dig too deep into these charlatans but if you do you will uncover a ton of stuff that will make the shiny amazing gold plated claims appear to be nothing but smoke.

And it's very time consuming to listen to or read every interview/presentation they give. But even at a browse, for example just on this one, it's gotta make one stop and go whoa, hang on a minute. I get that super intelligent "geniuses" don't always articulate well, but seriously . . . "all this stuff"??


https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-alien-tech-at-the-vatican.html

[EMERY SMITH] COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ALIEN TECH AT THE VATICAN

Quote Emery: It'll be cities will be put up everywhere. I know even our government has contacted me to orchestrate and architect a special city here that's self-sustainable, that's off-grid, has its own communications, its own electric, and all this stuff, because they're preparing to do this model everywhere.

[Valerie Villars]

Do these people ever quit? Their claims are so ridiculous it's unreal. Give me a real experiencer any day over this self inflated crap.

[Gemma13]

https://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/oral_histories/SmithEE/SmithEE_2-28-06.htm

The above link is to an interview of the Emery E. Smith who really was a NASA astronaut -- in the '60s!

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Emery has his namesake astronaut just like Wilcock’s No. 1 insider Pete Peterson, whose real name is Gary Peterson, has his namesake scientist:

http://soilcrop.agsci.colostate.edu/legends/lee-e-sommers/gary-a-pete-peterson/

https://www.drylandag.org/blog/an-interview-with-gary-pete-peterson


UPDATE: :ROFL:

Here we go - another namesake for Emery to copycat/plagiarise and this one gives loads of clues as to his outlandish claims of being asked by the government to build a special city :highfive:

http://www.smithemery.com/

[RunningDeer]

This just out by Joe from the Carolinas. :wave:


Emery Smith Cosmic Disclosure - 5 SHOCKING Things You NEED To Know
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Joe from the Carolinas
Published on Jul 10, 2018

Emery Smith Cosmic Disclosure and the 5 SHOCKING Things You NEED To Know. My research team has uncovered shocking evidence surrounding Smith's background. In this video, we present facts and evidence that contradict some of Emory's claims. Smith claims that he worked at underground bases as an ET Butcher.

[Wind]

Do these people ever quit?

Not as long as there is money to be made. It's too good of a business.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Thanks for posting my latest video RunningDeer, I've been working hard at putting it together yesterday and today. Myself and my researchers have been working on putting the data together for the past month. Enjoy all :)

[Valerie Villars]

Do these people ever quit?

Not as long as there is money to be made. It's too good of a business.

I have a hard time understanding how people can be THAT gullible. It seems to be an offshoot of bad t.v. programming that must be paid for. Paying to watch stupidity and lies.

I consider my donation to Avalon money well spent.

[Shadowself]

That was amazing Joe! Good work!

Here is the case you sited

https://matrix.leeclerk.org/DocView/Doc?request=33220849&eCode=Ebp4kqgxSxAdCkMrne41MXW350CEHSUR2erULFM1k119rrQG3o1Tt16Ob5p3Dx0WFr%2B3v4P5vif0dLIBlhuU8w%3D%3D

I'd say Mr Smith is in heaps of trouble financially. He has to file taxes as well from 2014 with interest! No wonder he's looking for money!

[Bill Ryan]

Do these people ever quit?

Not as long as there is money to be made. It's too good of a business.

I have a hard time understanding how people can be THAT gullible. It seems to be an offshoot of bad t.v. programming that must be paid for. Paying to watch stupidity and lies.

I consider my donation to Avalon money well spent.

:thumbsup: :heart:

When Joe from the Carolinas also starts charging $49 for his videos, we'll know that the Dark Side of the Force has finally won. :)

[Shadowself]

Just Wow

http://i63.tinypic.com/142sk6b.jpg

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[RunningDeer]

That was amazing Joe! Good work!

Here is the case you sited

https://matrix.leeclerk.org/DocView/Doc?request=33220849&eCode=Ebp4kqgxSxAdCkMrne41MXW350CEHSUR2erULFM1k119rrQG3o1Tt16Ob5p3Dx0WFr%2B3v4P5vif0dLIBlhuU8w%3D%3D

I'd say Mr Smith is in heaps of trouble financially. He has to file taxes as well from 2014 with interest! No wonder he's looking for money!
Drats, you have to log in. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/rant.gif


https://i.imgur.com/svtnfDS.jpg

[Shadowself]

That was amazing Joe! Good work!

Here is the case you sited

https://matrix.leeclerk.org/DocView/Doc?request=33220849&eCode=Ebp4kqgxSxAdCkMrne41MXW350CEHSUR2erULFM1k119rrQG3o1Tt16Ob5p3Dx0WFr%2B3v4P5vif0dLIBlhuU8w%3D%3D

I'd say Mr Smith is in heaps of trouble financially. He has to file taxes as well from 2014 with interest! No wonder he's looking for money!

Drats, you have to log in. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/rant.gif


https://i.imgur.com/svtnfDS.jpg

No just go to record filing here (don't forget to click I'm not a robot) : https://matrix.leeclerk.org/Cases/Search

Put the first and last name in and it will give you all his records. Look for the one with Emcyte and click on it.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Do these people ever quit? Their claims are so ridiculous it's unreal. Give me a real experiencer any day over this self inflated crap.

I agree Valerie, but the great problem is that these charlatans are pushed onto a pedestal so everyone can hear them. That's the first clue it's "possibly" fake imo. Due to the wide coverage they get, all the endorsements, sponsorships, tv and radio appearances etc, they are soon perceived as some kind of celebrity.

That's part of the game I guess, and it's by design. It's like pop music these days (if you can even call it music anymore). It's mostly all garbage, right? Yet because they saturate you with it, people - particularly young people - become convinced that it must be worth buying into. So they do. The same sort of conditioning is what sells Goode and Smith.

Unfortunately the voice of a genuine experiencer gets lost in all that noise. I can only ask that you trust me on that, as I am one. There are many such experiencers at PA, and I'm positive their stories are infinitely more interesting than this unholy circus. And genuine to boot.

[Valerie Villars]

Do these people ever quit? Their claims are so ridiculous it's unreal. Give me a real experiencer any day over this self inflated crap.

I agree Valerie, but the great problem is that these charlatans are pushed onto a pedestal so everyone can hear them. That's the first clue it's "possibly" fake imo. Due to the wide coverage they get, all the endorsements, sponsorships, tv and radio appearances etc, they are soon perceived as some kind of celebrity.

That's part of the game I guess, and it's by design. It's like pop music these days (if you can even call it music anymore). It's mostly all garbage, right? Yet because they saturate you with it, people - particularly young people - become convinced that it must be worth buying into. So they do. The same sort of conditioning is what sells Goode and Smith.

Unfortunately the voice of a genuine experiencer gets lost in all that noise. I can only ask that you trust me on that, as I am one. There are many such experiencers at PA, and I'm positive their stories are infinitely more interesting than this unholy circus. And genuine to boot.

You know when they're genuine precisely because they don't have all the answers. The charlatans do.

[RunningDeer]

No just go to record filing here (don't forget to click I'm not a robot) : https://matrix.leeclerk.org/Cases/Search

Put the first and last name in and it will give you all his records. Look for the one with Emcyte and click on it.
http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/write.gif Got it, thanks!


https://i.imgur.com/vHQdnaW.jpg

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

You know when they're genuine precisely because they don't have all the answers. The charlatans do.

Yes, damn good point. Some of the stuff I've seen and experienced I honestly couldn't tell you what the hell happened, or why, or how. For much of the high strangeness there are just no answers we could properly make sense of, at least not on this level.

Anyway sorry, :focus:

[Retief]

Wow, I was hoping he was delusional. Apparently he's a psychopathic scam artist.

[Shadowself]

Wow, I was hoping he was delusional. Apparently he's a psychopathic scam artist.

Yep....Next question: How much of this does DW know? Do you think he's aware he's dealing with a full blown con artist? Because I read that complete final judgement and this guy is a con job! I wonder what he did with the 1.25 million from the other company?

http://i64.tinypic.com/1zejha0.jpg


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[Bill Ryan]

Wow, I was hoping he was delusional. Apparently he's a psychopathic scam artist.

Yep....Next question: How much of this does DW know? Do you think he's aware he'd dealing with a full blown con artist? Because I read that complete final judgement and this guy is a con job! I wonder what he did with the 1.25 million from the other company?

http://i64.tinypic.com/1zejha0.jpg

My strong guess is that David Wilcock knows little or nothing. In a separate instance, which is equally important, he never investigated Pete Peterson's real circumstances (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe) at all.

He means well — apart from his attention on personal fame, admiration, and money, though that may not be a hanging offense in itself. But he's WAY too gullible and credulous, and all in all has done the alt research field a significant amount of damage.

[Shadowself]

Here ya go....have a good read. Seriously it's better than a spy novel!

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment.pdf

Here's a short one and the last in line of non-compliance from Emery

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment_2.pdf

Thanks Bill for making those pdf's for me!:thumbsup:

[norman]

Do these people ever quit? Their claims are so ridiculous it's unreal. Give me a real experiencer any day over this self inflated crap.

I agree Valerie, but the great problem is that these charlatans are pushed onto a pedestal so everyone can hear them. That's the first clue it's "possibly" fake imo. Due to the wide coverage they get, all the endorsements, sponsorships, tv and radio appearances etc, they are soon perceived as some kind of celebrity.

That's part of the game I guess, and it's by design. It's like pop music these days (if you can even call it music anymore). It's mostly all garbage, right? Yet because they saturate you with it, people - particularly young people - become convinced that it must be worth buying into. So they do. The same sort of conditioning is what sells Goode and Smith.

Unfortunately the voice of a genuine experiencer gets lost in all that noise. I can only ask that you trust me on that, as I am one. There are many such experiencers at PA, and I'm positive their stories are infinitely more interesting than this unholy circus. And genuine to boot.

Funny you should mention the music 'industry'. I wonder how much time Wilcock, Goode and Smith had to pick the brains of Kristin Frank ( who it appears has asked Google to remove her name from searches, which since 2014 she is legally allowed to do ).

Kristin Frank is listed as a member of the GAIA board of directors. She is a specialist in media and the social impact of it. She also has worked for MTV, focussing her skills on millenials.

Here she gives a talk to an audience in London. I find her mentallity REALLY SCARY.

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[Bill Ryan]

Here ya go....have a good read. Seriously it's better than a spy novel!

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment.pdf

Here's a short one and the last in line of non-compliance from Emery

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment_2.pdf

Thanks Bill for making those pdf's for me! :thumbsup:

Embedded here:

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment.pdf

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http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment_2.pdf

[Shadowself]

Who else do we know that was charged with "stalking" and got a restraining order? :gossip:

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[Joe from the Carolinas]

Pennie is also one of the 3 applicants on 2 of smith’s Patents (I’m away from my computer but included the image in my video for reference).

[Gemma13]

I believe Wilcock knows full well what shenanigans Emery is up to with his legal battles and hubris claims of intelligence but is deluded enough to believe that everything sinister that happens to him or any of his insiders is A CONSPIRACY translated as they are innocent, being framed, suppressed, blah blah and therefore they are telling the truth.

Or Wilcock isn’t delusional at all and has grown completely obsessed over the years with marketing spin narratives for his own self-serving interests.

Wilcock has a history of being involved with channeled material. We are well aware now that there are untold entities channeling disinformation in a controlled effort to disable genuine channeled material and it is very difficult to tell the difference. I have to wonder about Wilcock’s non-physical Insider Entities who are feeding him info. In past Vlogs with Goode, Wilcock mentions that he receives and believes his non-physical entity voices that guide him. Wilcock and Goode shared in the Vlogs how sometimes they would both receive similar channeled info from their “entity” sources which convinced them it must be true as this was their vetting process.

[Gemma13]

15 JUNE 2018 Short video (posted previously on this thread) complete with Emery superimposed in Superman Suit. I’m not a trained psychologist but this short interview with Emery is packed with psychosis: “a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality”.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16zqtFTZWQ

@ 5:09 Superman, oops Emery, says “here I was in court just like four weeks ago defending my patents and in court they wanted to do a gag order on me saying we do not want Emery Smith out there teaching people these cures we want to slowly release this information over 10-20 years …”

THERE’S A SMOKING GUN FOLKS: If anyone in this court jurisdiction has a few spare dollars to order a transcript of Emery’s court hearing I’m sure it would be very revealing :eek:

Shadowself and Bill have posted the Court Doc’s above and Joe’s vid covers it also.


Now while we have compassion for mental illness it is also extremely important to call it out when it is not harmless, for example, Richard Dolan had a good friend who was a pathological liar but he was harmless as his stories were just stories in social settings.
Emery Smith however takes pathological lying to a dangerous level as he is scamming, exploiting and robbing people of their possessions and sanity.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Now smith is on the JC radio program, saying the 5 year plan is to bring in 300-400 people to build a sustainable community in the desert.

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That was amazing Joe! Good work!

Here is the case you sited

https://matrix.leeclerk.org/DocView/Doc?request=33220849&eCode=Ebp4kqgxSxAdCkMrne41MXW350CEHSUR2erULFM1k119rrQG3o1Tt16Ob5p3Dx0WFr%2B3v4P5vif0dLIBlhuU8w%3D%3D

I'd say Mr Smith is in heaps of trouble financially. He has to file taxes as well from 2014 with interest! No wonder he's looking for money!

Thank you, yes, that’s the one! The financial problems explains why he’s all about the green.





Do these people ever quit?

Not as long as there is money to be made. It's too good of a business.

I have a hard time understanding how people can be THAT gullible. It seems to be an offshoot of bad t.v. programming that must be paid for. Paying to watch stupidity and lies.

I consider my donation to Avalon money well spent.

:thumbsup: :heart:

When Joe from the Carolinas also starts charging $49 for his videos, we'll know that the Dark Side of the Force has finally won. :)

Hah! Thanks for the idea :) Kidding. Avalon would get them for free :dancing: LOL

[Gemma13]

People need researchers. People don’t have time to do all the arduous work that goes on before a summary is presented to the public.

Researchers should be paid. And they are. Either contractually or independently.

But before people rely on information from researchers, journalists, experts, whistleblowers, call ‘em what you will, they must demonstrate credibility from integrity and transparency.

If they can’t do that – we the people – should immediately find another source that is prepared and capable of doing the hard work.

An example:

. Emery Smith’s claims and information have already been proven to be false and it is only going to get worse as this thread progresses. Emery Smith’s credibility is in the drain.

. Joe from the Carolina’s information is presented with evidence. Joe’s credibility is intact.


Personally I would rather pay Joe for his efforts in helping to vet con artists than donate money to Emery for his lies or buy one of his bottles of (supposed) superhuman brain food for $80.

[Shadowself]

Now while we have compassion for mental illness it is also extremely important to call it out when it is not harmless, for example, Richard Dolan had a good friend who was a pathological liar but he was harmless as his stories were just stories in social settings.
Emery Smith however takes pathological lying to a dangerous level as he is scamming, exploiting and robbing people of their possessions and sanity.

What ES did was pure theft! He owes that company partner of Emcyte a whole lot more than than 290 some thousand! The reason the court wants accounting for all those companies is there are sums of money due to the partner of Emcyte that was profited by him. That one company got a revenue of 2.5 million dollars! He was half owner of that company! And DID NOT PAY TAXES!

I'm waiting to see if he gets prosecuted of a crime because that is theft in it's purest form! He's not out of the woods yet and from what I read he's now in contempt of court for not complying with the courts demands. One of which was to file his taxes for the last 4 years!

With that kind of money hanging out there....wait till till the IRS gets hold of him!
They are not going to be forgiving. You can go to jail for cheating on your taxes...and this is going to be his downfall. He will cheat to avoid paying tax when he does file. And he is stupid enough to get caught doing so. That's tax evasion.

https://tax.findlaw.com/tax-problems-audits/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-taxes.html




The IRS is much more forgiving with people who can’t pay as opposed to non-filers who don’t pay. So late filing penalties are much higher than late payment penalties. The IRS will not put you in jail for not being able to pay your taxes if you file your return. The following actions will land you in jail for one to three years:

Tax Evasion: Any action taken to evade the assessment of a tax, such as filing a fraudulent return, can land you in prison for 5 years.

Failure to File a Return: Failing to file a return can land you in jail for one year, for each year you didn’t file.

Helping Someone Evade Taxes: Helping someone else get out of paying their taxes can carry a three to 5 year prison sentence depending on what action is alleged.

He didn't pay taxes for 4 years to avoid having to pay taxes on that money he collected for all those companies he owned!


Failing to comply with IRS or state taxation rules can result is serious civil and criminal penalties. And the longer your taxes go unpaid, the more serious the situation becomes.

The court ordered him to file his taxes! He did not comply!

Now..If DW in any way works with this guy in his "new adventure" and lending his name to this new company does not pay taxes DW will be probably get in trouble too. Depending on how he handles his "business" regarding this thief!

Pay attention DAVID:


Helping Someone Evade Taxes: Helping someone else get out of paying their taxes can carry a three to 5 year prison sentence depending on what action is alleged.

And make no mistakes....this guy is a pure THIEF!

[RunningDeer]

Speaking of DW, here is some news, I must give credit to him when due,
David Wilcock's Resignation Letter?!
https://www.reddit.com/r/CosmicDisclosure/comments/8wp24k/david_wilcocks_resignation_letter/
I am still digesting it, so have no opinion to offer as of yet other than recommending anyone who is interested in DW both for and agin' read the link.

NOTE to MODS: Please copy or move this post to appropriate thread if you think it belongs elsewhere. Apologies if this news is a repost.

Thanks, HaveBlue. :wave:
FYI post: Bill added David Wilcock's Gaia TV resignation letter here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103398-David-Wilcock-s-apparently-very-real-letter-of-resignation-to-Gaia-TV&p=1233757&viewfull=1#post1233757).

[Bill Ryan]

I've been listening to the Emery Smith/ David Wilcock livestream video from a couple days ago, now here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtl0qK9SmiI
It's been quite hard to listen to. It's so very obvious Emery Smith is pathologically confabulating, on multiple counts. Really. It's worth listening to for that reason alone.

At 2:11:00 DW says: "Ecuador. We gotta do Ecuador. Because that's so amazing." And so he does.

As many reading this will know, I live in Ecuador.

OMG. It's complete nonsense. He's taken the base story of Tayos Cave (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8789-Does-the-metal-library-really-exist) (in itself very fascinating and a real intrigue, and where Neil Armstrong visited (https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/metal_libr/) in the 70s), and he's woven a wild sci-fi story around it that's simply a flat-out fantasy.

It's one of those instances where a hoaxer figures that barely anyone could possibly know enough about their false story to counter it knowledgeably. So he goes ahead, as he thinks the risk is negligible he'll get busted.

But I really do know about the place.

Wilcock says at 2:14:32:




"Our military-industrial complex folks were taking NASA astronauts in the 1970s into this area as a reward for them keeping quiet about what they saw on the moon."
(He says he was told this by another 'insider', about the same place as Emery says he went to.)

It was only one NASA astronaut. Here's Neil Armstrong, approaching Tayos Cave in 1976.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r-HnioOiOFE/hqdefault.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Neil_Armstrong_Tayos_Cave_1976.jpg

Here's the location, on the Rio Pastaza.

https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/wp-content/uploads/img/metal_02.jpg

And here's what it looks like.

http://www.goldlibrary.com/jpg/Hall%20por%20el%20rio%20Pastaza.JPG

Tayos Cave is the purported site of the fabled Metal Library. I've handled a couple of the artifacts myself — see this post for photos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8789-Does-the-metal-library-really-exist&p=76086&viewfull=1#post76086) — and there's VERY Strong evidence that this 'library' exists, or existed. The best account of this is here, and it's well worth reading.


http://philipcoppens.com/metal_libr.html

That's the account that Emery Smith has used as the starting point for his own added fantasy.


There's no UFO that crashed through the roof of the cave and is still there.

There are no strange 'Avatar'-like animals and plants.

It's strange enough anyway without his wild, invented additives. His story is a flat-out lie. Anyone can quote me on that.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Dang Bill, Smith is busted on nearly every facet of his story that is independently confirmable. And he just keeps going! I'll need to finish listening to the live stream, but what's next, was he one of the non-existant astronauts wearing an invisibility cloak, that was at Tayos Cave with Armstrong, after going through a time travel portal? :)

[Bill Ryan]

Dang Bill, Smith is busted on nearly every facet of his story that is independently confirmable. And he just keeps going! I'll need to finish listening to the live stream, but what's next, was he one of the non-existant astronauts wearing an invisibility cloak, that was at Tayos Cave with Armstrong, after going through a time travel portal? :)

Yes. :)

The thing there isn't that the number of astronauts was wrong. That's tiny. The 'astronaut' significance is that as Wilcock says, this is the same place he's heard about from 'other insiders'.

And the truth about that is all known and documented. More to show that Wilcock does NOT check his facts given to him by others, though that's so very easy to do.

For many in North America or Europe or Australia (or almost anywhere else!), making wild claims about Ecuador is rather like making claims about the Dark Side of the Moon... it might be assumed no-one's ever going to check it out. But in this case, that was a bad mistake.

See also this earlier post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1208249&viewfull=1#post1208249), by the way, when this silly claim first came to light in a Cosmic Disclosure episode. In that, Emery Smith didn't appear to know whether the cave was in Ecuador or Costa Rica, despite the fact that "he'd been there".

Of course, to someone who's not been to Latin America at all, there's barely any difference between the two. :)

http://projectavalon.net/Tayos_Cave_location.gif

[Foxie Loxie]

What a wealth of information here on Avalon!! Interesting to see the video of Father Crespi & Mr. Hall!

[mojo]

After reading the message by Emery I was still left with the feeling he is not telling everything honestly. By now Im sure he has received feedback about what concerns other people have on his information. When I was accused of hoaxing I did everything possible to explain and show authenticity. Like the cave that Bill Ryan was in with no disk... He hasnt done that which has been the same by other people, like Corey.

[ichingcarpenter]

Dolan last night on his live chat YT asked for Emery's 2 PHD information and his dissertations subjects. 32 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmX5dynbzc

[Bill Ryan]

Dolan last night on his live chat YT asked for Emery's 2 PHD information and his dissertations subjects. 32 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmX5dynbzc

Yes, it's worth listening to. :) Richard is asked for his opinion on Emery Smith, and says quite a bit (!) from 29:43 to 33:49.

Here's one VERY strong statement from Richard, quite extreme for him: (32:33)



I sat on a stage with him, a couple of months ago, in California, and I just have to say this: his demeanor and behavior I don't consider to be a credit to this field and I did not consider to be professional.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmX5dynbzc

[ichingcarpenter]

Emery's letter to his fans or groupies

This part stood out for me

I read a comment of someone threatening to go into Gaia’s headquarters and hurt the people working there? Even some saying they’re going to kill all of the people working there and shoot the whole building up? Are you kidding me? This is beyond unacceptable to me and truly most of the reason why I feel I now need to write this response to you all.


Where do I stand in the middle of all of this?
July 10, 2018
Dear everyone,

In light of recent events regarding my colleagues and Gaia TV, I wanted to write a response to the public. I would like to begin by expressing my deep disappointment with the public release of David Wilcock's alleged resignation letter to Gaia. It has caused a great stress on me and I am very upset that this was publicized as my name and so much personal detail was mentioned multiple times. In regard to the statements made about me and my manager, Olivia, and my financial position these past years (especially this last one) has put me into, I will say that there were many factors to consider for this happening and do not blame any one entity. I do not at all appreciate the efforts put into the widespread release of this, making it the focus of everyone’s attention. It is a violation of our privacy, something of which I take very seriously due to my history and respect for privacy and safety................ it goes on but I thought

Not gonna print the rest of it ........ but here is the link

https://emerysmith.net/blog/2018/7/10/where-do-i-stand-in-the-middle-of-all-of-this


Houston ? These people have a problem that's going the way of Jim Jones worship.

[Bill Ryan]

This may raise a smile. :)

I came across this image, which is widely showcased on a number of Emery Smith fan blogs, including Corey Goode's own http://spherebeingalliance.com.

https://spherebeingalliance.com/thumb.php?src=e_MEDIA_IMAGE%2F2018-01%2F1a_Emery_Smith.jpg&w=1600&h=0

It seemed just a little too clean-cut and good to be true.

Sure enough, it was. Google image search is a wonderful thing. Here's the stock photo, which had been purchased to use.


https://123rf.com/photo_16955245_medical-and-health-bright-lab-laboratory-indoor-with-instruments-test-tubes.html?fromid=cXRPc3l3Mkl0NWduODZjdHM2RDJuZz09

Stock Photo - medical and health bright lab laboratory indoor with instruments

https://previews.123rf.com/images/dotshock/dotshock1212/dotshock121200468/16955245-medical-and-health-bright-lab-laboratory-indoor-with-instruments-test-tubes.jpg

[Shadowself]

Good find! I can't believe this guy is still walking the streets...hasn't the IRS caught up with him yet? Oh well...they will.

[WalterBosley]

OK, I gotta ask an obvious question just to make sure I clearly grasp this:

Are you saying that the above photoshopped image of Emery Smith in the lab was posted by Smith and company as an alleged legit image of himself in a lab he works in??

Really??? :facepalm:

[RunningDeer]

OK, I gotta ask an obvious question just to make sure I clearly grasp this:

Are you saying that the above photoshopped image of Emery Smith in the lab was posted by Smith and company as an alleged legit image of himself in a lab he works in??

Really??? :facepalm:

Yup. I've seen that same photo on a couple of websites. Emery Smith wears a lot of pretend hats. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hat_tip.gif

[Bill Ryan]

OK, I gotta ask an obvious question just to make sure I clearly grasp this:

Are you saying that the above photoshopped image of Emery Smith in the lab was posted by Smith and company as an alleged legit image of himself in a lab he works in??

Really??? :facepalm:

Yup. I've seen that same photo on a couple of websites. Emery Smith wears a lot of pretend hats. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hat_tip.gif

Yes. 100% for sure. The background of the lab (with no Emery in the foreground) is available as a stock image from http://123rf.com. I found the original: see post #162 above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1241269&viewfull=1#post1241269).

:)

[Bill Ryan]

A little more. :)

Here's a photo in Emery's website gallery (https://emerysmith.net/gallery) that shows him in the same shirt and tie (look at the little white 'S3' that RunningDeer/Paula noted, on the left shirt cuff).

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a835c159f8dcebf5458626a/5abd6a37352f534c47bc5e68/5abd6a78f950b7bc8ad5d4e6/1522364301628/dsc_5788-8-2.jpg

Add a very similar photo (taken a moment or two before or after) to this stock image...

https://previews.123rf.com/images/dotshock/dotshock1212/dotshock121200468/16955245-medical-and-health-bright-lab-laboratory-indoor-with-instruments-test-tubes.jpg

... and you get this wonderful, but 100% faked PR photo. :)

https://spherebeingalliance.com/thumb.php?src=e_MEDIA_IMAGE%2F2018-01%2F1a_Emery_Smith.jpg&w=1600&h=0

[WalterBosley]

How the hell can ANYONE still support and defend this guy's nonsense?? I mean, seriously, LOL

[RunningDeer]

How the hell can ANYONE still support and defend this guy's nonsense?? I mean, seriously, LOL

Emery Smith doesn't have a YouTube site, but his buddies do. Their YouTube stats tell me people are moving on.

Corey, Corey’s Kids and other Gang stats:


SphereBeing Alliance - Corey Goode (https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCa5Lacw0dS1fgSb9_kkVVlg)

https://i.imgur.com/pqJdy1V.jpg

Destroying the Illusion - Jordan Sather (https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCMVTRzCXvIbdK0Y1ZxD-BlA)

https://i.imgur.com/dd3mbbn.jpg

David Wilcock | Divine Cosmos (Official) (https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/davidwilcock333)

https://i.imgur.com/yoyPHWH.jpg

Divine Frequency - Teresea Yanaros (https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC_jDPph3Bra-CXxPMrXfUYA)

https://i.imgur.com/ZqE2go5.jpg

Stillness in the Storm - Justin Deschamps (https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCh_tqfiqNM89lL4SclgCG6w)

https://i.imgur.com/uXj15Ga.jpg

Fade to Black - Jimmy Church (https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/kjcrfadetoblack)

https://i.imgur.com/mZwh8cB.jpg


Bentinhomassaro - Bentinho Massaro (https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/)

https://i.imgur.com/ncY2BkT.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

OK, I gotta ask an obvious question just to make sure I clearly grasp this:

Are you saying that the above photoshopped image of Emery Smith in the lab was posted by Smith and company as an alleged legit image of himself in a lab he works in??

Really??? :facepalm:

Yup. I've seen that same photo on a couple of websites. Emery Smith wears a lot of pretend hats. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/hat_tip.gif

Here it is on David Wilcock's site: (It's also on Corey Goode's site, but that's down right now)


https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/1225-abr-legacy/comment-page-6

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_fake_lab_photo.gif

[RunningDeer]

Here it is on David Wilcock's site: (It's also on Corey Goode's site, but that's down right now)


https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/1225-abr-legacy/comment-page-6


They've lied so often it's hard to believe anything they say.

[Bill Ryan]

Here it is on David Wilcock's site: (It's also on Corey Goode's site, but that's down right now)



https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/1225-abr-legacy/comment-page-6



They've lied so often it's hard for me to believe anything they say.

Yes. The game is all about PR, showbiz and fakery. Here below, in a screenshot of a Google reverse image search results page, are all the other sites where the identical Photoshopped image has been loudly showcased.

And there are more where the black edges have been trimmed, including in YouTube videos. They come up in a different image search.

Now, to make it clear. Of course, many PR firms, consultants and artists use Photoshopped images all the time. It's easy, and it's to be expected.

But what's disappointing is that the alternative media, supposedly fiercely and uncompromisingly committed to the truth, is so often doing just the same thing.

We truly become the enemy we fear. Think about it. Think about all the glitzy promotion. The bumper music. The hype. The showbiz. The commercials.

The lies.

The money.

The alternative media has it all. And David Wilcock, Jimmy Church, and those who have been professionally hyping Corey Goode to the skies and back, are leading the way.

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_fake_lab_photo_search_results.gif

[WalterBosley]

Their time shall pass.

[Did You See Them]

As much as I think they are all about fakery and deception (for $$) I think the image used is obviously meant just to be a "representation" - as are much of their "photoshopped" images, cartoons and graphics - after all they have not showed ANYTHING real yet in regards of collaborating their story.

[Hervé]

[...]
It seemed just a little too clean-cut and good to be true.

Sure enough, it was. Google image search is a wonderful thing. Here's the stock photo, which had been purchased to use.
[...]
Pure PR, indeed: Fake Emery doesn't bother wearing a protective lab-coat or glasses when manipulating vials and "pipette" ... which the original stock picture show: lab personnel with protective lab-coats.

@ RunningDeer: Emery's sleeve may show his embroidered initials "E.S." instead of a number. I guess the documented activity is a fashion show...

[Bill Ryan]

Folks, a little later today (in maybe 3-4 hours, when I have a moment) I'm going to take the liberty of deleting one or two recent posts on the thread.

I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT intending any disrespect to anyone at all, but I do want to keep the topic seriously focused. And (importantly) we'll soon have a fellow-researcher of some renown (not an Avalon member, but someone who everyone here would know and respect) who wants to look through this specialist thread for hard information about Emery and his claims which they may not be 100% fully up to date with.

For that reason, I want to keep the 'noise' and frivolity down, and the good information readily accessible. It's easy to make jokes about this kind of thing — for sure! :) — but at the same time, we're researching things for the benefit of a lot of other people on the net. Always please remember, we're on public display here, all the time.

:focus:

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, I pretty much respect everything you do and it is your forum.

But, you can't be funny if you're not smart and sometimes the humor keeps the very serious realities from being overwhelming.

That said, delete away. :waving:

Right. Some of the humor is mine! :)

But it's about making the important research info easily accessible to guests, as behind all this there are serious issues. Signal to noise, etc.

There are now 196 posts on this thread, and that's quite a lot for anyone to read when they may be focused, short of time, and want to know (in, say, 25 minutes flat!) exactly how Emery has been specious or deceptive, in ways that are documented. That'd give them just under 8 seconds per post, if their time is limited. :)

The forum is a multi-purpose organism:


It's a social vehicle for friendships and community.
It's a resource which we all use together to help us learn and understand what is and what isn't true or accurate, and what's new that we may not even know a thing about.
It's a platform for presenting research material — to sometimes 10x-15x as many guests as members — which absolutely IS accurate and documented.

As you know, we do a pretty good job of balancing all that. Like a 9/11 researcher who might makes a few jokes in their conference presentation, no lightheartedness at all would make it way too dry and dusty, while too many jokes can make the topic seem frivolous. Balance is always the key.

:flower:




Update: I've soft-deleted 17 posts, including a number of my own. :)

The SOLE reason for this is to make the research information more readable and accessible to a visiting guest researcher, a person you'd all want to support, who has a strong interest in what's been recorded on this thread.

No disrespect is intended to anyone, and anyone's post(s) can easily be PMed to them if they wish. Because they're soft-deleted, they can also be restored. THX for understanding. The work done here has been important.

[Andrew_K]

More on Emery Smith's astronaut claim:

It turns out that Emery didn’t make a mistake when he said he was an astronaut on the All Out Show. He really does say that he was an astronaut on the latest episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Here’s an excerpt:

… while working at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, we were contracted out as astronauts to go, actually, to these places [secret space stations] [on TR-3B craft] and run some tests for long-term space travels for human beings. … I was working in Florida at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute when I first developed my platelet-rich plasma stem cell device, and they thought there would be use for this regenerative properties in space, and they wanted to see if you could still concentrate these cells in space and if they would still be viable to give to the astronauts for long-term space exploration.
Later, he says he was scheduled to go on the Space Shuttle Columbia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia).

I was scheduled to go up in one of the shuttles, yes. Luckily, I didn’t because the one that got blown up over Texas was my return flight. … That was definitely a hit on all those people. … I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the president of that time. Bumped my flight, actually, about two years. And after that blew up, they canceled the whole shuttle program. I didn’t get to go up, so I was very upset with that one, but I still did work for the other [deep state] NASA and did some other things.
You can listen to him for yourself here to verify. This link will expire in less than 12 hours.

https://www.gaia.com/give?ch=br&token=cjl3jx55y001g01lkb4re9rqw

[Bill Ryan]

More on Emery Smith's astronaut claim:

It turns out that Emery didn’t make a mistake when he said he was an astronaut on the All Out Show. He really does say that he was an astronaut on the latest episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Here’s an excerpt:
… while working at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, we were contracted out as astronauts to go, actually, to these places [secret space stations] [on TR-3B craft] and run some tests for long-term space travels for human beings. … I was working in Florida at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute when I first developed my platelet-rich plasma stem cell device, and they thought there would be use for this regenerative properties in space, and they wanted to see if you could still concentrate these cells in space and if they would still be viable to give to the astronauts for long-term space exploration.Later, he says he was scheduled to go on the Space Shuttle Columbia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia).
I was scheduled to go up in one of the shuttles, yes. Luckily, I didn’t because the one that got blown up over Texas was my return flight. … That was definitely a hit on all those people. … I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the president of that time. Bumped my flight, actually, about two years. And after that blew up, they canceled the whole shuttle program. I didn’t get to go up, so I was very upset with that one, but I still did work for the other [deep state] NASA and did some other things.You can listen to him for yourself here to verify. This link will expire in less than 12 hours.


https://www.gaia.com/give?ch=br&token=cjl3jx55y001g01lkb4re9rqw




Thanks. VERY important.

Okay, here's the entire episode (30 mins) as an MP3:


http://projectavalon.net/Cosmic_Disclosure_Season_11_Episode_4_21_August_2018_The_Deep_State_of_NASA.mp3

The part about Emery Smith having been a Space Shuttle astronaut starts at 10:44. That clip lasts for 1:06. It's here, as a standalone short extract:


http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_with_David_Wilcock_and_Corey_Goode_on_being_a_Shuttle_Astronaut.mp3

Here's the transcript. On record is on record. The catastrophic shuttle incident Emery is referring to is the Columbia disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster) of 1 February, 2003.

~~~




David Wilcock: You said something provocative, which is, you said that YOU were one of these astronauts.

Emery Smith: I was scheduled to go up in one of the Shuttles, yes, and luckily I didn’t because the one that… that blown up over Texas was my return flight. So…

David: You’re actually saying, the regular space shuttle?

Emery: Yeah, the regular space shuttle.

David: You were going to be a conventional astronaut.

Emery: Yeah, for that one.

Corey Goode: When I was in the Texas State Guard, my unit ended up helping… help clean up a lot of that.

Emery: Right… Yeah. And that was a… that was definitely a hit on all those people. That was not a… just an explosion. Those were all targeted for [cross-talk, unintelligible]

Corey: They saw something they weren’t supposed to?

Emery: Huh?

Corey: Why would they target a… a shuttle? Did they see something they weren’t supposed to?

Emery: Yeah, those people on there… I don’t know the background, but they all had something on them that, you know… or the majority of them in there had something that they needed to make sure was never… was spoken of ever again. And I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the President at that time… um… bumped my flight actually about two years, and after that blew up, they cancelled the whole shuttle program, I didn’t get to go up! So I was very upset with that one.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

More on Emery Smith's astronaut claim:

It turns out that Emery didn’t make a mistake when he said he was an astronaut on the All Out Show. He really does say that he was an astronaut on the latest episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Here’s an excerpt:
… while working at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, we were contracted out as astronauts to go, actually, to these places [secret space stations] [on TR-3B craft] and run some tests for long-term space travels for human beings. … I was working in Florida at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute when I first developed my platelet-rich plasma stem cell device, and they thought there would be use for this regenerative properties in space, and they wanted to see if you could still concentrate these cells in space and if they would still be viable to give to the astronauts for long-term space exploration.Later, he says he was scheduled to go on the Space Shuttle Columbia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia).
I was scheduled to go up in one of the shuttles, yes. Luckily, I didn’t because the one that got blown up over Texas was my return flight. … That was definitely a hit on all those people. … I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the president of that time. Bumped my flight, actually, about two years. And after that blew up, they canceled the whole shuttle program. I didn’t get to go up, so I was very upset with that one, but I still did work for the other [deep state] NASA and did some other things.You can listen to him for yourself here to verify. This link will expire in less than 12 hours.


https://www.gaia.com/give?ch=br&token=cjl3jx55y001g01lkb4re9rqw




Thanks. VERY important.

Okay, here's the entire episode (30 mins) as an MP3:


http://projectavalon.net/Cosmic_Disclosure_Season_11_Episode_4_21_August_2018_The_Deep_State_of_NASA.mp3

The part about Emery Smith having been a Space Shuttle astronaut starts at 10:44. That clip lasts for 1:06. It's here, as a standalone short extract:


http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_with_David_Wilcock_and_Corey_Goode_on_being_a_Shuttle_Astronaut.mp3

Here's the transcript. On record is on record. The catastrophic shuttle incident Emery is referring to is the Columbia disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster) of 1 February, 2003.

~~~




David Wilcock: You said something provocative, which is, you said that YOU were one of these astronauts.

Emery Smith: I was scheduled to go up in one of the Shuttles, yes, and luckily I didn’t because the one that… that blown up over Texas was my return flight. So…

David: You’re actually saying, the regular space shuttle?

Emery: Yeah, the regular space shuttle.

David: You were going to be a conventional astronaut.

Emery: Yeah, for that one.

Corey Goode: When I was in the Texas State Guard, my unit ended up helping… help clean up a lot of that.

Emery: Right… Yeah. And that was a… that was definitely a hit on all those people. That was not a… just an explosion. Those were all targeted for [cross-talk, unintelligible]

Corey: They saw something they weren’t supposed to?

Emery: Huh?

Corey: Why would they target a… a shuttle? Did they see something they weren’t supposed to?

Emery: Yeah, those people on there… I don’t know the background, but they all had something on them that, you know… or the majority of them in there had something that they needed to make sure was never… was spoken of ever again. And I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the President at that time… um… bumped my flight actually about two years, and after that blew up, they cancelled the whole shuttle program, I didn’t get to go up! So I was very upset with that one.


Thank your posting this- this exchange between DW and ES3 is ridiculous and really disrespectful to the lives lost that day.

[radeev]

I am new to this thread and haven´t read it all. However I did read several posts either directly saying Emery is not a doctor, or implying that he is not. I then did a search for "doctor" in the thread and didn´t find any relevant results hence my post. At Smith´s web page, the media section, you can clearly see that he indeed is a doctor: https://emerysmith.net/videos-1/ T.

As for the cave he talked about: Since he didn´t mention the cave by name, how can you confidently state which cave he is talking about? Are you not open to the possibility that some caves, or parts of a cave system, are still unknown / hidden / closed-off to the public?

[Bill Ryan]

I am new to this thread and haven't read it all. However I did read several posts either directly saying Emery is not a doctor, or implying that he is not. I then did a search for "doctor" in the thread and didn't find any relevant results hence my post. At Smith's web page, the media section, you can clearly see that he indeed is a doctor: https://emerysmith.net/videos-1/ T.

In his bio page, here:


https://emerysmith.net

... there's no mention of him at all having studied for a Ph.D. Or even having gone to college or university at all. And he's not a medical doctor (an M.D).

You wrote:
At Smith's web page, the media section, you can clearly see that he indeed is a doctor: https://emerysmith.net/videos-1

There's no mention of it on that page. On video, he's a surgical technician. That's entirely different. That's someone who does minor procedures as an assistant.


As for the cave he talked about: Since he didn't mention the cave by name, how can you confidently state which cave he is talking about? Are you not open to the possibility that some caves, or parts of a cave system, are still unknown / hidden / closed-off to the public? Read the material carefully. He's 100% clearly referring to the Tayos Cave, while knowing little about it. He didn't even know its name. He's just read about it somewhere, and then hitched himself to the story. In his first mention of it (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1208249&viewfull=1#post1208249), he thought it was in Costa Rica... even though he went on to say he'd been there personally.

His interviews betray his pattern of making casual, throwaway comments, after which, when challenged or asked to clarify, he often has to work quite quite hard to catch up and make himself credible, or excuse/explain himself in some way.

If you take it all together, his entire life-story narrative is shot through with a whole bunch of enormous holes, insulting to those with actual experience in those fields. His latest (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1243465&viewfull=1#post1243465), claiming to have narrowly escaped being on the Space Shuttle Columbia, is a perfect instance.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

I am new to this thread and haven´t read it all. However I did read several posts either directly saying Emery is not a doctor, or implying that he is not. I then did a search for "doctor" in the thread and didn´t find any relevant results hence my post. At Smith´s web page, the media section, you can clearly see that he indeed is a doctor: https://emerysmith.net/videos-1/ T.


Welcome to the discussion :) While Emery Smith may appear to be a doctor, because he is wearing scrubs in the wound healing clip, he is not referred to as a physician and does not have any form of doctorate after his name.

In hospitals in the US, many, many people wear scrubs other than doctors. This includes nurses, environmental services, and anyone else that may come in contact with patients or infectious medical waste. This is to prevent the spread of infection between patients, protect the staff from contracting disease themselves, and prevent the patient from getting the staff's germs. These sorts of measures are referred to as PPE-- Personal Protective Equipment. In addition to handwashing, they are designed to be thrown away after each interaction with a possible source of contamination.

So, in the most respectful way possible, I do need to state that Emery Smith is indeed NOT a doctor based on the clothes he wears, until he can produce bonafide documentation.

[radeev]

There's no mention of it on that page. On video, he's a surgical technician. That's entirely different. That's someone who does minor procedures as an assistant.

I stand corrected. This difference eluded me. Thank you for clarifying. However, this doesn´t change the fact that he could and still be qualified for the kind of work he claimed to do. So this fact doesn´t give less credence to his claims.


Read the material carefully. He's 100% clearly referring to the Tayos Cave, while knowing little about it. He didn't even know its name. He's just read about it somewhere, and then hitched himself to the story. In his first mention of it, he thought it was in Costa Rica... even though he went on to say he'd been there personally.

His interviews betray his pattern of making casual, throwaway comments, after which, when challenged or asked to clarify, he often has to work quite quite hard to catch up and make himself credible, or excuse/explain himself in some way.

If you take it all together, his entire life-story narrative is shot through with a whole bunch of enormous holes, insulting to those with actual experience in those fields. His latest, claiming to have narrowly escaped being on the Space Shuttle Columbia, is a perfect instance.

You may very well be right about the cave and based on the quotes provided in the beginning of this thread yes there is indeed a discrepancy between what was being said in those two episodes. However, instead of being a liar it could also be the case that he simply remembered incorrectly. To me this is just a possible minor "red flag" which alone is far from enough to discredit him. If you watch the interviews there are several times where he becomes very emotional, distressed and uncomfortable. This has happened when the conversation turned to former colleagues of his, who had either died or were presumed dead due to accidents, mishaps. How do you explain away these genuine emotions?

The biggest "red flag" to me as of yet is their handling of the free energy device. If they indeed have/had this, why not simply upload a full recording of how to build, setup and use it as quickly as possible, as this would ensure disclosure?

[David Trd1]

The biggest "red flag" to me as of yet is their handling of the free energy device. If they indeed have/had this, why not simply upload a full recording of how to build, setup and use it as quickly as possible, as this would ensure disclosure?

If this was true, which i find unlikely, ''Death'' would certainly be something to be concerned about. More efficient forms of cultivating energy is certainly a hotter topic in elite circles than crimes against children(and that's at boiling point). They stamp it out, and quickly....

[Bill Ryan]

You may very well be right about the cave and based on the quotes provided in the beginning of this thread yes there is indeed a discrepancy between what was being said in those two episodes. However, instead of being a liar it could also be the case that he simply remembered incorrectly. To me this is just a possible minor "red flag" which alone is far from enough to discredit him.If you travel a couple thousand miles making an arduous journey to visit a remote cave buried deep in the jungle with a UFO inside, you're going to remember whether it's in Costa Rica or Ecuador. :)

One of the several things Emery revealed there was that he he actually had NOT traveled much, and had little knowledge of geography outside of the US.

http://projectavalon.net/Tayos_Cave_location.gif

[Honesty]

I interacted with Emery directly before he followed suit with Dr. Ted Loser and Dr. Jan Bravo to distance themselves as far as possible from the Greers in late 2012. Nothing about Emery ever suggested that he was a doctor. Hope that helps on multiple fronts...

[Shadowself]

I don't know...perhaps I'm losing patience with this whole Emery thing because I'm not well....but the guy opens his mouth and he lies. That's about it!

People who pay to see these liars deserve to lose their money. If they're not smart enough to research the people they pay money to see they deserve to get the spoon fed lies these people are feeding them.

I wonder what fantastic story they are going to make up when he ends up in jail...and he will eventually. Let me see: He took a job on pluto and is saving the world with Mickey and friends! Their followers will probably believe that too!


https://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/images/mickey-pluto.png

That's all.

[mojo]

I interacted with Emery directly before
Hi Honesty,
Can you ask Emery to help clarify and important controversy? Why does his story of the Tayos cave differ from other people that visited the same cave later on and never found one shred of any evidence to which he attests? He needs to explain this on our forum in order to understand how thanks...

[Bill Ryan]

I interacted with Emery directly before he followed suit with Dr. Ted Loser and Dr. Jan Bravo to distance themselves as far as possible from the Greers in late 2012. Nothing about Emery ever suggested that he was a doctor. Hope that helps on multiple fronts...

Do you have any idea why Greer never mentions Emery, and Emery never mentions Greer, despite their having worked together closely for several years?

Moreover, no-one else out there ever seems to be asking Greer, or Emery, the obvious question. Given that it's reasonable to expect that each would have quite a lot to say about the other, positive or negative (or even just affirming!), the silence from everyone about this is pretty hard to understand.

[The Moss Trooper]

mojo wrote:


He needs to explain this on our forum in order to understand how thanks...

That's the last thing he's gonna do. Get into a detailed conversation with people who who've actually been there?......... I don't think so.

I'm tellin' ya, the guy's eyes are too close together. I bet you a pound-to-a-penny that if we found anyone who attended school with him, they'd all say the same thing......... Liar, liar, pants on fire.

[mojo]

I recently caught Corey in a lie he said in video. This is a 'critical failure' on his part especially when all a person brings to the debate is personal testimony. This might be Emery's moment of redemption or not.

[ichingcarpenter]

3000 alien bodies or body parts he's examined.

Lets say he spent 20 minutes on each one at a bear minimum of time but I think it would be a lot more

20 X 3000 is 60,000 minutes or 1000 hours

I say he worked maybe 3 hours at the most in a working day on just examining body parts the rest of the day writing reports..

1000 / 3 = 333. 333 work days with no weekends, no vacation, no holidays, no sick days

Let's say he only did one a day over time
3000 days is 8.25 years with no holidays, weekends, vacations, sick days

Does his Math work out?


Isn't math fun????

[David Trd1]

I don't know...perhaps I'm losing patience with this whole Emery thing because I'm not well....but the guy opens his mouth and he lies. That's about it!

People who pay to see these liars deserve to lose their money. If they're not smart enough to research the people they pay money to see they deserve to get the spoon fed lies these people are feeding them.

I wonder what fantastic story they are going to make up when he ends up in jail...and he will eventually. Let me see: He took a job on pluto and is saving the world with Mickey and friends! Their followers will probably believe that too!


https://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/images/mickey-pluto.png

That's all.

Motioned seconded, I have to say you made me laugh out loud there ;)

[ichingcarpenter]

I interacted with Emery directly before he followed suit with Dr. Ted Loser and Dr. Jan Bravo to distance themselves as far as possible from the Greers in late 2012. Nothing about Emery ever suggested that he was a doctor. Hope that helps on multiple fronts...

Do you have any idea why Greer never mentions Emery, and Emery never mentions Greer, despite their having worked together closely for several years?

Moreover, no-one else out there ever seems to be asking Greer, or Emery, the obvious question. Given that it's reasonable to expect that each would have quite a lot to say about the other, positive or negative (or even just affirming!), the silence from everyone about this is pretty hard to understand.

I was gonna ask that same question on Steven's youtube channel so it could be seen in public and have a public discussion about this matter. But alas..... comments are disabled for every single video. His conversation is a one way street. This is not healthy and I find it narcissistic and arrogant which is not conducive to a honest Disclosure process he so wants to have.

[radeev]

As I mentioned in a post further up, in several episodes he is suddenly overwhelmed by sad emotions and ends up in all but tears as the discussion turns toward former colleagues and friends of his in the secret world, now either dead or presumed dead due to accidents, mishaps. You can almost feel the tension and atmosphere change in the room. It appears very genuine. If that was fake, how do you go about and plan, practice and execute such a stellar performance? Maybe I am being naive here, but it seems it would require so much effort on his part to make up all of this, all but cry on specific cues, etc. What would be to motive to do that? He seems to be living a turbulent life, having his dog stolen, having someone try to run him over, breaking into his home, etc. This is all lies? Rational motive?

I am sorry if the answers to my questions have already been answered earlier in the thread. I don´t have the time to do a search now.

[Did You See Them]

Radeev - We have just had an instance of someone "believing" their own lies here on UK TV's "Celebrity Big Brother".
The girl in question accused a "housemate" of punching them and all the other housemates believed her.
If it was not for the fact that it was ALL on camera she would probably have gotten away with it.
It also showed how either she is a compulsive liar or such a fantasist that that she honestly believed her misguided fantasy ( personally think she needs mental help ).
Regardless it showed her up in the end - and more than likely career ending !
Worth reading if your not aware of it.

Compulsive Liars are VERY clever to some degree - It's an art !
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/sep/03/roxanne-pallett-says-she-overreacted-to-big-brother-punch

[Shadowself]

Oh man...I'd be crying too! This guy Emery is in so much trouble right now of course he's crying!

He tried to counter sue a partner who he ripped off huge amounts of money! I can't remember the exact amount but it's documented in the legal paperwork a few pages back! Not only that...he dissed a judge of the court who ordered him to file his taxes so they could access exactly how much it totaled for all those years! He did not file his taxes and did not even show up in court!! Now this is a civil case...he is smart enough to know that the IRS will get hold of him and absolutely arrest him for not filing taxes as ordered by a judge of the court.

That is the civil case...there may also be coming forward a criminal case because what he did very much appears to be a crime.

I'd be crying too if I was in his shoes...further more what he is doing now....is probably his brainy idea to plead insanity! Think that one over...

He does not have the money to afford an attorney as it appeared in the case he was his own lawyer. The dude is in lots of trouble and he will most likely be arrested sooner than later. If you don't believe that go back and read the legal proceedings....or you could believe his tears which I'm sure are real...but not for the reasons he's giving.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1234668&viewfull=1#post1234668

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment_2.pdf

Those are counter suites....there is a suite out there by his partner and when that has come to some kind if final judgment...that is when he will most likely be arrested.

The dude started all kinds of companies to collect money from...this is why they want the taxes filed on each of those companies. One company collected 2.5 million for which he owned half interest with some woman! He cannot account for the money...and he most likely spent it! He also got other people involved in investing in these companies he started...they are libal... perhaps unwitting ... but still liable to pay the other original partner too!

Indeed he's crying now!

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[Shadowself]

Here is a list by the court of all the companies he claims to have started &/or collected income from:

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The dude is shady as F&*K!

He is a thief and any tears he sheds are for himself!

[Bill Ryan]

The biggest "red flag" to me as of yet is their handling of the free energy device. If they indeed have/had this, why not simply upload a full recording of how to build, setup and use it as quickly as possible, as this would ensure disclosure?

There are many red flags, but yes, you're 100% right: that's yet another one. His excuses for not making the free energy device public are wafer-thin flimsy.

A question for you, not intended to be challenging — just maybe something to prompt some thought. Do you really believe one person, who's never been to college or university, could do so much in their life by the age of 46?

The big picture is that the advent of the internet has made it utterly simply for ANYONE to claim anything at all, often sensationally, seeking celebrity, attention, and very often $$ — without a shred of supportive evidence.

Almost anyone can lie on a blog or a video and get clean away with it. Meanwhile, real witnesses and experiencers suffer and are compromised by association.

In some ways the internet has made serious documentary research easier, and in other ways it's made it far more confusing and time-wasting. There have been many people and groups, including of course the intel agencies, who've been VERY quick to realize how internet platforms can be weaponized in this way. It's SO EASY TO DO.

Here's the summary. The use of the word 'weaponized' refers not to injury of people. It's the injury of truth.

It's only a few who know the details of the game in play. Most others, including all of the fans, followers, and articulate promoters (including David Wilcock, Justin Deschamps, Jay Weidner, Jimmy Church and George Noory), are just unknowing assets of the agenda. And they often simply hitch-hike on the witnesses' celebrity to fuel their own.

[Shadowself]

Do you really believe one person, who's never been to college or university, could do so much in their life by the age of 46?

I don't.

Furthermore on this very thread there is so much evidence that he has not. This thread also provides evidence that he is one of the biggest scam artists to hit the circuit in a long time. He is single handedly doing extreme harm to those who are legitimate.


promoters (including David Wilcock, Justin Deschamps, Jay Weidner, Jimmy Church and George Noory), are just unknowing assets of the agenda. And they often simply hitch-hike on the witnesses' celebrity to fuel their own.



They are also doing extreme harm to those who are legitimate which makes them willing partners. Sad to say as a few of them I used to have some respect for...but not now.

[RunningDeer]

Some of my thoughts on that:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101473-SSP-Emery-Smith&p=1239134&viewfull=1#post1239134

FYI Mike, when I click on this link this comes up:

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[Andrew_K]

Do you have any idea why Greer never mentions Emery, and Emery never mentions Greer, despite their having worked together closely for several years?

Moreover, no-one else out there ever seems to be asking Greer, or Emery, the obvious question. Given that it's reasonable to expect that each would have quite a lot to say about the other, positive or negative (or even just affirming!), the silence from everyone about this is pretty hard to understand.

Coincidentally, Emery spoke on that very subject last night on Fade to Black. Jimmy asks him about his relationship with Greer at 51:14, and Emery finishes at 56:29. This is all after Emery goes into his work history.

He shared with Greer some information on underground facilities and 3D bioprinting. He also shared ground-penetrating radar scans of underground archeological sites. More importantly, he admitted he shared with Greer none of the information he's been sharing on Cosmic Disclosure.

i8i7aRB-UxE

[Honesty]

I interacted with Emery directly before he followed suit with Dr. Ted Loser and Dr. Jan Bravo to distance themselves as far as possible from the Greers in late 2012. Nothing about Emery ever suggested that he was a doctor. Hope that helps on multiple fronts...

Do you have any idea why Greer never mentions Emery, and Emery never mentions Greer, despite their having worked together closely for several years?

Moreover, no-one else out there ever seems to be asking Greer, or Emery, the obvious question. Given that it's reasonable to expect that each would have quite a lot to say about the other, positive or negative (or even just affirming!), the silence from everyone about this is pretty hard to understand.

It's like a bad marriage...people behave differently once the divorce is finalized. I have just been waiting for civilization to reset itself - not the looming staged reset - once I experienced first-hand the extent of the spiritual root within the human collective. I committed financial suicide trying in vain obviously to overcome the advanced energy technology embargo. Materialism is the dominant religion. It is best to focus on positively impacting those closest to you, rather than focus on these global initiatives. The level of control over the human collective is overwhelming, but temporary. Modern day Nazis placing and supporting people like the Greers will become a distant memory once the global grid can no longer support all of the technological control mechanisms in place. I no longer talk to Emery...he was always so aloof while he was working with Greer, jumping from one crisis to the next. It got old. I haven't heard from Jan in many years. Ted and I exchange an email every now and then. I look forward to the day when our 'junk' DNA is activated, in conjunction with the arrival of Superconsciousness...it's probably not going to happen until after the grid goes down hard and humanity pulls it's head out and sees things as they are for a change.

Emery told me about an incident in which someone at his house in FL walked in on him right before he almost shot himself in the head while under some sort of remote hypnosis that he attributed to Greer. My experiences suggest that he tried to pull the same stunt with me after he knew that I knew that CIA's Hal Puthoff was his handler...epic fail. Anyway, that's all I have to share about this circus.

[RunningDeer]

Do you have any idea why Greer never mentions Emery, and Emery never mentions Greer, despite their having worked together closely for several years?

Moreover, no-one else out there ever seems to be asking Greer, or Emery, the obvious question. Given that it's reasonable to expect that each would have quite a lot to say about the other, positive or negative (or even just affirming!), the silence from everyone about this is pretty hard to understand.

Coincidentally, Emery spoke on that very subject last night on Fade to Black. Jimmy asks him about his relationship with Greer at 51:14, and Emery finishes at 56:29. This is all after Emery goes into his work history.

He shared with Greer some information on underground facilities and 3D bioprinting. He also shared ground-penetrating radar scans of underground archeological sites. More importantly, he admitted he shared with Greer none of the information he's been sharing on Cosmic Disclosure.

i8i7aRB-UxE

Transcribed @ 50:50 (https://youtu.be/i8i7aRB-UxE?t=50m50s):

ES: “…it’s a very sad thing but I’m just glad the technology is still out there that I invented to help everyone and something you just take with a grain of salt and you picked up and you start making more things. They start doing new things and finding other ways to help the communities and help the world and in each other.”

JC: “During this period when you got introduced to Dr. Greer, how did that happen and it was he aware of your background and what was going on at Kirkland? Or how that relationship start?”

ES: “Well you know…that’s it that’s the kind of private thing. I was you know being at the projects for a few years and wanting to reconnect with like people that I could discuss, you know, sensitive material with. And I was meditating and praying about this and had a visit I'll say. And they said, “Go turn your computer on.” In the office in the middle of the night I stood up and I noticed I’m, you know bat**** crazy. But I stood up, you know, the night went over there and turned the computer on. And I don’t know what I typed. I think it was like extraterrestrial phenomenon or something. And the CSETI website came up. And then I researched him and the site for about a year. Because I was really curious about what the civilians were doing out there and wanted to catch up with you know what was really going on, on the outside.

And I said, ”You know, let me let me let me try this out. Let me go to one there one of their little one week, you know, getaways.” And that was it. Because you know I went out there you know that amazing craft come in. Have met some amazing people, you know. Greer is an excellent presenter and he caught on. You know. He knew that I was a little different and I wouldn't share any of my experiences in the past because, you know, I was still under NDA number one. Number two, I don’t, it takes a long time for me to trust them. One to talk about that kind of stuff because you know I know David Wilcock 10 years and wouldn't tell them anything until just recently.

So you can understand you know being with CSETI for just a short time, I think those are five or six years, um, it was just at a moment where, I wasn't ready and comfortable sharing that information by the same time it was nice to you know be around like minds you know like consciousness people that, you know, are out there trying to change the world and do it the right way, you know. And not, you know, get everyone into some sort of fear shock level. And there's a lot of other, you know, of course organizations out there. But I felt it was a good shoe in and I had fun with it and at the time I was very wealthy, so it was not a big deal to, you know, go out and help these people. And you know, I was doing some amazing photography for CSETI. Some amazing, amazing photos and videos and amazing contact work with just Grier and myself and some of the core team members there. You know, It was just a it was a nice little family also.”

JC: “Before we hit the break… the reason why I am asking these, well the community needs these answers for one. But the second part is, you know, Dr. Greer is always talking about his whistleblowers and the people that are feeding him information. Today you’re a whistleblower. You’re considered a whistleblower but back then was he aware of your whistleblower status? And was he… were you a source of some of his information? “

ES: “Well first of all I would like everyone stop calling me whistleblower because I'm not a whistleblower. I'm an insider. I just tell you my story and the information. I'm not really divulging too much information that is as far as whistleblowing on some big thing. I mean everyone knows there’s underground bases. Everyone knows we have ETS, so I don't like consider myself that, so I rather just be called an insider.

Greer had no idea. He knew about a few underground facilities I was associated with, and of course Kirtland. But he did not know the extent of, you know, what I was doing there because I was only sharing with him the things after I got out of the military with the underground facilities with 3d printing tissue and other things that they found then scanned from space and from archaeological finds. Ah, which I would share with him and even give to him so he could analyze also use his people. So we were jointly working on, you know, some you know, amazing classified little trinkets and things. And ah he did not know about all this information that has been released since November. So I’m, you know, he's probably in a lot of shock we're not in communication anymore. Um, and yeah, so that’s where we're at.”

JC: “Well fair enough, I and again you know the community always appreciates transparency and trying to get to this and others out there have never asked you these questions. and you know me, I’m not gonna get there.”

ES: “Well the people that people need to know the truth and you know I had to protect my family and you know my dad was dying of brain cancer and my mom was dying of lung cancer at the time. And I was unable to save my father but I could save my mom the first time from her first bout of lung cancer. And so there was a lot going on that I had to leave and study that can focus on. (?) and you know, I was also at a point in my life that I wanted to do some new things and focus on the energy projects solo without involving anyone I knew. Except for my people on my sciences. And we did. And we were very successful. So you know you'll hear about that next year.”

[ichingcarpenter]

Some of my thoughts on that:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101473-SSP-Emery-Smith&p=1239134&viewfull=1#post1239134

FYI Mike, when I click on this link this comes up:

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Same here.... exact same message

[ThePythonicCow]

Some of my thoughts on that:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101473-SSP-Emery-Smith&p=1239134&viewfull=1#post1239134


FYI Mike, when I click on this link this comes up:

RunningDeer, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:


Same here.... exact same message

Mike had, inadvertently I suspect, provided a link to a small private sub-forum of Project Avalon, where a few members had gathered to share information that some of them chose to keep out of public view.

[RunningDeer]

Mike had, inadvertently I suspect, provided a link to a small private sub-forum of Project Avalon, where a few members had gathered to share information that some of them chose to keep out of public view.

That was my educated guess based on the partial address "SSP-Emery-Smith", i.e. no public address found in forum search engine, Google, scrolling through forum pages and Mike's posts. It didn't stop the OCD part of me to go searching a bazillion different ways and times.

MUCH appreciation for this post, Paul. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/cow.gif
I finally can let it gooooooooo.http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/im-ok.gif

[Rha S ananda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhwkj7u0XsQ

mini list i quick wrote down from the video.. alll from i thin 1st 10minutes+-

emery smith. 58 soulscore 3.5

gaia (general) 40 soulscore

CEO Jirka Rysavy 4 soulscore rep soul., 9x bad 4x good (polarized neg...)

D.Wilcock... was mid 50 went down 30 now up 46 soulscore, 3ex bad 21 ex good...

Corey Goode 27 soulscore young soul 15%done. 4x bad 12 x good..

Cobra 6 soulscore rep soul, 5x bad 4x good...
tachyone harmfull....

**? rep soul, 20 soulscore, 2x bad 1x good..

assange 46 soulscore m, 25done.. 3rd den.. little bad and 27Xgood karma

snowden.. 42 soulscore. young 15% . little bad, 14x good

trump 20 soulscore. bad karma.. 5x bad. 6x good better than other elites with rep soul.. get pedos out etc.. but does supp isreal... -> isis..

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhwkj7u0XsQ
mini list i quick wrote down from the video..

[ * A lot of stuff which presented in this inarticulate way is almost impossible to understand * ]Please don't clutter this research thread up with this nonsense. (And it is.)

:focus:

[radeev]

A question for you, not intended to be challenging — just maybe something to prompt some thought. Do you really believe one person, who's never been to college or university, could do so much in their life by the age of 46?

If I recall correctly he did state that he took education or vocational training through the military. He joined it at an early age so he has had time to learn on the job I guess. # of years of education is not a useful metric to measure someones´intelligence or capabilities, as it can just as well be a hindrance. However, his alleged expertise and vast knowledge within so many different fields justifies skepticism. The fact that he doesn´t sport another unfathomable 20-and-back tale boosts his credibility in my eyes.

David Wilcock has written some fantastic good articles in the past, one of my favorites is the one with all the military emblems relating to secret space programs. If Smith is a hoaxer that makes Wilcock lose all credibility. Wilcock is a good host in the series, but seems naive at times. I am open to the possibility that he is being played by Smith, but at the same time whether or not Smith is genuine, he sheds light on topics which most probably are true, e.g. extraterrestrial presence in underground military bases, corporate involvement, secret space program, classified tech, all these things are very believable in my eyes.

[radeev]

Oh man...I'd be crying too! This guy Emery is in so much trouble right now of course he's crying!

He tried to counter sue a partner who he ripped off huge amounts of money! I can't remember the exact amount but it's documented in the legal paperwork a few pages back! Not only that...he dissed a judge of the court who ordered him to file his taxes so they could access exactly how much it totaled for all those years! He did not file his taxes and did not even show up in court!! Now this is a civil case...he is smart enough to know that the IRS will get hold of him and absolutely arrest him for not filing taxes as ordered by a judge of the court.

That is the civil case...there may also be coming forward a criminal case because what he did very much appears to be a crime.

I'd be crying too if I was in his shoes...further more what he is doing now....is probably his brainy idea to plead insanity! Think that one over...

He does not have the money to afford an attorney as it appeared in the case he was his own lawyer. The dude is in lots of trouble and he will most likely be arrested sooner than later. If you don't believe that go back and read the legal proceedings....or you could believe his tears which I'm sure are real...but not for the reasons he's giving.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1234668&viewfull=1#post1234668

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/Emery_Smith_court_judgment_2.pdf

Those are counter suites....there is a suite out there by his partner and when that has come to some kind if final judgment...that is when he will most likely be arrested.

The dude started all kinds of companies to collect money from...this is why they want the taxes filed on each of those companies. One company collected 2.5 million for which he owned half interest with some woman! He cannot account for the money...and he most likely spent it! He also got other people involved in investing in these companies he started...they are libal... perhaps unwitting ... but still liable to pay the other original partner too!

Indeed he's crying now!

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Interesting. I personally don´t have time to research all such details but am grateful someone does! and then share:) It is alarming if Wilcock missed this in his vetting, and if he did not, they should have addressed the issue beforehand, as things like this does raise red flags.

[Shadowself]

but at the same time whether or not Smith is genuine, he sheds light on topics which most probably are true, e.g. extraterrestrial presence in underground military bases, corporate involvement, secret space program, classified tech, all these things are very believable in my eyes.

Any light he sheds on these subjects which have been around for a long time by other researchers...many researchers.... are things he has intentionally plagiarize. But not only plagiarized but added his own spin to prop up his lying fabrications.

He's a compulsive liar and his lies just keep growing. From a scientific researcher with umteen degrees...to an astronaut! To being in danger...warning Will Robinson Danger....the danger he runs from is the courts and the law...which he has used and abused and will pay the price of ripping many people off in the end.

When guys like this come out of the woodwork with outrageous stories that's exactly the time to research them and it is not that hard to do. Scroll back a page or two to see some of the bogus photos he's been putting out of him on a stock image of a laboratory. ..totally cropped and fake.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1241269&viewfull=1#post1241269

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1241634&viewfull=1#post1241634



But what really pisses me off is the claim of a cancer cure! BS! It's insulting to me as I have cancer stage 4 and he can kiss my a$$



ES: “Well the people that people need to know the truth and you know I had to protect my family and you know my dad was dying of brain cancer and my mom was dying of lung cancer at the time. And I was unable to save my father but I could save my mom the first time from her first bout of lung cancer. And so there was a lot going on that I had to leave and study that can focus on. (?) and you know, I was also at a point in my life that I wanted to do some new things and focus on the energy projects solo without involving anyone I knew. Except for my people on my sciences. And we did. And we were very successful. So you know you'll hear about that next year.”

BS! He was selling kits to companies he opened from an original partner without the partners knowledge.....period. It is unlikely he's going to do anything solo as far as "projects" because he will be put in jail and most likely not allowed to enter that kind of profeting on medical devices in the future as part of a judgement against him practicing in that field again.


His partners company did not do cancer research...they made a medical device explained here:


making PurePRP® and PureBMC® the most advanced concentrating systems available. Today, PurePRP® and PureBMC® are more advanced than ever before, with more versatility, shorter processing times, reduced processing steps, better regenerative cell procurement and single processing device. The new ASPIRE™ Bone Marrow Harvesting System is a medical marvel in bone marrow aspiration, accomplishing high quality quiescent bone marrow aspirate with minimal activation, free hemoglobin or clotting. These products along with a host of other biologics and devices allow EmCyte to continue to lead in autologous regenerative biologics. EmCyte's team of qualified specialist are available for advanced clinical and scientific training and support.
https://www.emcyte.com/


That might assist real cancer research...but they were not involved in that...they were involved in selling the kits for extracting bone marrow in the best possible way as explained here. That's it! NOT a cancer research center at all...and neither were any of the companies he started to rip off his partner either...it was to sell the kits under the nose of his partner at EmCyte.


Global Stem Cells Group announces worldwide alliance with EmCyte Corp


The Global Stem Cells Group, Inc. just issued a press release announcing a worldwide alliance with Fort Myers, Florida-based EmCyte Corporation to promote in- office regenerative medicine procedures for physicians and practitioners. Here is the press release:
"EmCyte, a provider of biotechnology solutions in the United States, develops biological products for platelet rich plasma and bone marrow concentrate grafting procedures. The company also manufactures proprietary devices designed for harvesting the patient’s own plasma or bone marrow to use for the patient’s treatment.
EmCyte provides clinical support and trains physicians in using biologics for sports and general rehabilitative procedures. EmCyte is now seeking to expand its operations trough the Global Stem Cells Group Network.
The Global Stem Cells Group’s collaboration with EmCyte is a logical one, as both companies are committed to research and development of products and procedures that will bring stem cell treatments to patients right in the physician’s office.
Through its six separate stem cell companies, Global Stem Cell Group is dedicated to finding opportunities like the EmCyte alliance that help expand the reach of stem cell therapy to all patients who can benefit from it.


Please note that we don't offer any kind of medical advice. Questions requesting specific medical advice (e.g. where can I get this treatment, will this cure XXX condition, etc) will be published but most probably ignored by the administrators.



Read more: http://www.stemcellsfreak.com/2013/10/global-stem-cells-group-announces.html#ixzz5QKInczkN

So the company made these devices and trained people like Emery to demonstrate use for SALES....that is what all those pictures of him holding up the device is. For training purpose. He personally was not curing anything.

[radeev]

Any light he sheds on these subjects which have been around for a long time by other researchers...many researchers.... are things he has intentionally plagiarize. But not only plagiarized but added his own spin to prop up his lying fabrications.

The nature and circumstances regarding what these whistle blowers have to say make trust an important factor for all of them. It shouldn´t be necessary for them to be 100% accurate to be taken seriously, I doubt any of them are anyway. Of course credit should be given where credit is due, but whether Smith´s account is genuine or not these topics reach a wider audience through Gaia than they otherwise would, so at least some good come out of it.



He's a compulsive liar and his lies just keep growing. From a scientific researcher with umteen degrees...to an astronaut! To being in danger...warning Will Robinson Danger....the danger he runs from is the courts and the law...which he has used and abused and will pay the price of ripping many people off in the end.

There are many people who achieve a lot more than average Joe. Whether he really was in the Astronaut program is something I leave to more dedicated researchers to find out. I would assume this claim would be one of the easier ones to fact-check. If someone can prove that claim was a lie he loses all credibility. The court system is corrupt and a game to be won for the rich and powerful (in matters of importance). Before jumping to conclusions Wilcock and Smith should be given a chance to address these claims.


When guys like this come out of the woodwork with outrageous stories that's exactly the time to research them and it is not that hard to do. Scroll back a page or two to see some of the bogus photos he's been putting out of him on a stock image of a laboratory. ..totally cropped and fake.

I have seen the picture with him in the lab. I could not find it on Emerys own web page, just the picture with only him. Have you seen evidence that Smith faked this picture? Anyone could have faked it. Emery is not responsible for what Corey puts on his website.


But what really pisses me off is the claim of a cancer cure! BS! It's insulting to me as I have cancer stage 4 and he can kiss my a$$

Sorry to hear about your condition. Given the amount of resources being put into cancer research world wide it is appalling if his claim is true. Then again, and sorry to digress as I understand this must be a sensitive issue to you, I just recently saw a mainstream article suggesting American personnel in the Cuban embassy was targeted by a sonic weapon, and that micro waves was the cause of the symptoms. These weapons have allegedly been around for quite a long time, but they have not, to my knowledge, been seriously addressed in more mainstream media before. It would not surprise me if the cure for cancer have already been learned from extraterrestrials, but kept secret. My point is, we do not know if there is a cure or not.

My last point. If I remember correctly Wilcock has been in contact with Emery for around 10 years. Why would an alleged attention- and profit-seeking individual stay in the dark for 9-10 years before going public? That doesn´t make sense. Unless Wilcock is compromised, which I don´t see any evidence of.

[Mike]

Hi there Radeev, if I were in the CIA, or some other clandestine agency responsible for disinfo'ing the alternative community, i'd likely deploy dozens of agents to slow drip information to the likes of Wilcock and co. These agents wouldn't have any immediate, dramatic agenda, but they'd always be available and at the ready should the occasion call for it. This way, when they emerged from the shadows as "whistleblowers" people might assume they have some sort of credibility for having not emerged earlier to exploit all the goods for cash and so forth.

As far as the astronaut claims, I'd love to hear Emery's explanation too....but these guys only operate in echo chambers like the Jimmy church show, or at these back-scratching events like 'Contact in the Desert. They don't allow themselves to be questioned by "haters", i.e. anyone who might ask them a question that might expose them.

In fairness, he seemed quite believable in the beginning to me...before any sort of research. But i think hes been clearly exposed now as a liar.

[Shadowself]

Emery claimed to be scheduled for the Columbia...but to be fair here is a list of all astronauts names and if you click on the names it gives their bio....there is one Smith in the shuttle program and it's not him.


List of Space Shuttle crews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Space_Shuttle_crews

As for David...there is a ton's of information on him listed over the last few years as to his dishonesty.

Starting with how he ripped of a member here off of 10 thousand dollars and never answered him as to what happened to the donation. Then there is the Pete Peterson fiasco...well documented here. And the recurring car sabotage...along with the recorded show where he is saying things of a dishonest nature from one of his Gaia shows.

It would be far too exhausting for me (l'm not too well right now) to look it all up and serve it to you...there is a search bar at the top right of the page. Easy to find if you put in his or any name and use titled thread instead of posts...that would take forever. I will also require lots of reading. But it's there nonetheless.

We who have been here for some time now have learned some things that after years of following David have become very disillusioned. It also explains why the three Corey, Emery and David are now huddled together...these guys stick together and their main reason is fame and money.

Here's a start...The truth about Pete Peterson

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99679-The-Truth-about-Pete-Peterson-David-Wilcock-the-foreclosure-the-dead-cats-and-GoFundMe&p=1178189&viewfull=1#post1178189


Letter to David Wilcock

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61721-An-Open-Letter-to-Mr.-David-Wilcock

[radeev]

Yesterday and today I read the entire thread and looked at some of the linked videos, articles and radio interviews, his Linkedin, glanced at the legal documents and did some keyword searches on Google based on what I learned (yes, I know Google can´t be trusted with controversial searches but it´s still the best search engine I know).

Emery seems to have some explaining to do regarding inconsistencies in his testimonies and (ongoing) court battles. I also get the impression that he exaggerates and self-aggrandize, but when asked or pressed on issues he´ll either backtrack or clarify in a way that makes his first statement seem deceptive. Oddly enough, this makes me lose faith in Wilcock more than in Smith himself. Wilcock may have vetted Smith extensively on his alleged insider knowledge, but given how many hours of witness testimony Smith has given to Wilcock you would think a critical interviewer would touch upon at least some of the concerns raised in this thread. The fact that this hasn´t be done is, in my opinion, at best a testimony to Wilcock´s naivety or sloppy research (either way he loses credibility), or at worst wilful deception. In Emery's defense, Gaia´s 30 minute episodes are too short to allow for the level of detailed explanation these topics crave for. I don´t think there is any person who would not come off as inconsistent in this format. The situation would be different if he say wrote a book, where there is more time and space to explain things fully.

Nonetheless, there are certain aspects of his story which I find hard to dismiss. He does indeed have his name on a few patents, he seems qualified for the work he claims to have done (tissue sampling). I find it strange to say the least when claims he or a team he is part of has mastered free energy but are not putting forth any evidence (like a video recording which would require minimal effort yet, if published say today, would create internet shock waves). At the same time he is selling products on his web site and making money keeping his story going. Nonetheless, he sheds light on issues which need to be in the spotlight.

In conclusion, I have become more skeptical towards Wilcock but am still undecided on Smith. His story is entertaining but not important. I am impressed with the high quality research on this forum and look forward to learning more here when I have time.

[WalterBosley]

I'll tell you why I'm decided on Smith: Despite whatever part of his claims he's qualified to do, he still makes the claims of what he's not qualified to do and all the rest. I'm qualified to be a federal agent, but if I started claiming I was an ambassador to the galactic federation or a former NASA astronaut when I was clearly neither, that part would still be BS. Whatever Smith is qualified to do among his claims, he's weaving into his false narrative to give the appearance of credibility. Don't fall for that. It's a tactic.

[Bill Ryan]

I'll tell you why I'm decided on Smith: Despite whatever part of his claims he's qualified to do, he still makes the claims of what he's not qualified to do and all the rest. I'm qualified to be a federal agent, but if I started claiming I was an ambassador to the galactic federation or a former NASA astronaut when I was clearly neither, that part would still be BS. Whatever Smith is qualified to do among his claims, he's weaving into his false narrative to give the appearance of credibility. Don't fall for that. It's a tactic.

Yes. To put it another way:


True info mixed with false info = disinfo (by definition of the term).

It's used by intel agencies widely to this day, simply because it's so clever and effective to do one or all of


convince people that the false info is true.
confuse people.
throw them off the scent of the truth that's omitted completely.
generate conflict among the recipients of the information.

[Denise/Dizi]

Emery Smith didn't correct David when he suggested it was the same Ecuadorian underground complex as was visited by Neil Armstrong (who did most definitely visit Tayos Cave in 1976).

Smith could have easily made it crystal clear what he was talking about, but he didn't... he allowed David to lead him with suggestions, as he always does all his witnesses.

In my very strong opinion, also taking into account the very extreme (and unlikely!) testimony, I believe one can only conclude that he was fantasizing — for whatever reasons, knowingly or otherwise.

You make a VERY VALID POINT!

Years back, contactee's and abductees were reporting, in mass, that they were being taken through solid glass doors and windows... The Drs, in an effort to make sense of this, and make it sound more "believable"... decided to give them an opportunity to "Alter that" accounting, to make more sense. They then suggested the doors and windows MUST HAVE BEEN opened first...

When told the windows or doors must have been opened first, they absolutely would NOT change their testimony... They would NOT allow the Drs. to lead them, to suit their own ideas... IT WAS THEIR TRUTH, and no amount of leading them, would change that.

I have found that many people wanting truthful information, are willing to share their details, no matter how CRAZY they sound... HONESTLY, and they NEVER WOULD allow someone else to "Lead them" in this way, because to do so, alters the facts about what is truly happening.. And sometimes truth certainly is stranger than fiction..

When someone DOES waiver in this way, it leads me to believe that the facts are able to be manipulated because they're NOT TRUE..

I would rather be deemed insane, than be called a LIAR. This "Leading" is a very large RED FLAG...

Thank you for pointing it out!

[Denise/Dizi]

This Emery Smith chap is like Dan Burisch the second with his microbiology claims. I have no doubt Dan is a microbiologist and I also have no doubt he is CIA deep state trying to unseat President Trump, and therefore largely disinfo,

Emery tape is what we use in engineering. Like sandpaper for metal. Smith means to be a smith of something. Well at least they have a sense of humor!

I had been reading and watching information about the Drs. used in these programs, and I came across something that said that the drs were chosen more for their ability to keep their mouths shut, than their actual SKILLS... Who knows....

[radeev]

Emery Smith didn't correct David when he suggested it was the same Ecuadorian underground complex as was visited by Neil Armstrong (who did most definitely visit Tayos Cave in 1976).

Smith could have easily made it crystal clear what he was talking about, but he didn't... he allowed David to lead him with suggestions, as he always does all his witnesses.

In my very strong opinion, also taking into account the very extreme (and unlikely!) testimony, I believe one can only conclude that he was fantasizing — for whatever reasons, knowingly or otherwise.

You make a VERY VALID POINT!

Years back, contactee's and abductees were reporting, in mass, that they were being taken through solid glass doors and windows... The Drs, in an effort to make sense of this, and make it sound more "believable"... decided to give them an opportunity to "Alter that" accounting, to make more sense. They then suggested the doors and windows MUST HAVE BEEN opened first...

When told the windows or doors must have been opened first, they absolutely would NOT change their testimony... They would NOT allow the Drs. to lead them, to suit their own ideas... IT WAS THEIR TRUTH, and no amount of leading them, would change that.

I have found that many people wanting truthful information, are willing to share their details, no matter how CRAZY they sound... HONESTLY, and they NEVER WOULD allow someone else to "Lead them" in this way, because to do so, alters the facts about what is truly happening.. And sometimes truth certainly is stranger than fiction..

When someone DOES waiver in this way, it leads me to believe that the facts are able to be manipulated because they're NOT TRUE..

I would rather be deemed insane, than be called a LIAR. This "Leading" is a very large RED FLAG...

Thank you for pointing it out!

In one of the latest episodes he talks about one cave in Costa Rica, and one cave in Ecuador. This could be the answer to OP´s original argument, but of course also just be an attempt to patch up loose ends. In the end I don´t think we can know for sure which one. As of yet, I have not seen any proof as to whether he worked or did not work in those underground facilities. So, with the following in mind...:



True info mixed with false info = disinfo (by definition of the term).

It's used by intel agencies widely to this day, simply because it's so clever and effective to do one or all of

1. convince people that the false info is true.
2. confuse people.
3. throw them off the scent of the truth that's omitted completely.
4. generate conflict among the recipients of the information.


...I think, at least for me, it´s time to move on to other threads, as I don´t want to fall prey to, in particular, # 3 above, wasting time chasing a pink elephant.

[Bill Ryan]

In one of the latest episodes he talks about one cave in Costa Rica, and one cave in Ecuador. This could be the answer to OP´s original argument, but of course also just be an attempt to patch up loose ends.

That's interesting, and sure sounds like damage limitation.

Can you link to the episode, or any transcript on the net? (Corey Goode used to post Gaia Cosmic Disclosure interview transcripts, but [curiously] is no longer doing so. In fact, many previous transcripts have now been removed from his site.)

A side comment: damage limitation suggests the fairly strong possibility that Emery has been reading, or has been made aware of, my critique. That would in turn strongly suggest that David Wilcock is also 100% aware.

That then might be linked to David's strong personal barb (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103398-David-Wilcock-s-letter-of-resignation-to-Gaia-TV&p=1247191&viewfull=1#post1247191) at me recently in his latest blog post, reported by several on the forum on more than one thread. (David had to dig that up from over 9 years ago, silly though it was, because there's nothing else he has to criticize me with.)

~~~

A note directly to David if he's reading this:

David, that was cheap of you, and the silly claim was at once implausible and did you little credit. The internet community would respect you a LOT more if you actually took responsibility for your own errors and omissions over the years, and also for your failure to do due diligence in a number of instances that you and I both know about.

It may be a wise idea to look in the mirror for a while and realize for yourself what you really need to do in order to hold, or regain, what you feel is the moral high ground. Your interpretation of that may have differed from that of others for quite a long time now.

[radeev]

transcript to the best of my ability of Cosmic Disclosure season 12 episode 3 from around the 15th minute mark. this took much more time than I thought it would so I didnt complete all of it as they talk for quite some time about it and I am already overtime here. Also keep in mind I am not a native English speaker so there are a few instances where I could´nt make out what they were saying. And I know this could be better edited and formatted but I am out of time here. so here you go
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DW: but you have mentioned however, a very enigmatic experience that you had that confirmed something I heard and that is some crashed underground ufos. So one of them is in this area of south america. In light of these different crashes, could you talk specifically about the Ecuador and costa rica and I wanna hear what Corey has to say as you bring that up.
ES: I recently was at two sites that had a crashed extraterrestrial craft that went through the crust of the earth or was transdimensionally going through the the earth and got stuck and crashed in a large cavern and this is there is two of them actually one of them is in costa rica and there is one in Ecuador and upon getting to this area and getting down into this hole and walking a few hundred feet you know is this craft completely intact and operational to an extent and...
dw: what did it look like? What did you see?
ES: it was a disc type and more oval more egg-shaped ...(he next part is not clear to me, I am not a native english speaker) ... and that´s what you have and it has all this beautiful flora and fauna growing around it all bioluminescent even the ground is different feels like you are walking on memory foam.
DW: in the cave?
ES: in the cave where there is no light at all and all this stuff is emanating a very interesting glow but not like a beam of light at all
CG: right a bioluminescent …
ES: right
CG: glow yeah that barely lights…
ES: barely
CG: yeah
ES: but that much you can actually see some things and even the animals down there were a little different I remember seeing these naked like ...(not understandable to me)...type beings that were just scurrying around and they were glowing but they looked normal
CG: they had been eating the..
ES: right
CG: right
DW: chuckles
ES: they were genetically changing
CG: from consuming the
ES: the plants and being around the craft and it kept us a very clean area which was I was very proud of them for a very long time and what else can I tell you they
DW: well, how, if you could tell us, what would you see on the surface, how would you get in, is there like an outpost, is there a little building?
ES: well its actually very deep in the jungle and you have to take just a regular 4 by 4 there nothing special there is no cool jets or space craft taking you there or maglev tubes thats for sure. Its in a very inhospitable area and once you get there it is about maybe 20 miles form the nearest lets say village or city so its not inhabited this area its actually a protected area so the government there has set up a very nice effective amazing perimeter it is very unlikely anything alive could get through the perimeter and they have two satellites just for that area that monitor it and they have of course the costa rican military in conjunction with the united states military there but united states does not have any ownership or is allowed to really be there to take the craft which is I found very interesting I think the reason the us government offered the military security there is just like to keep an eye on things.
DW: when you said costa rican military does the costa rican military handle both ecuador and costa rica in this case or does the ecuadorian military handle Ecuador
ES: no its completely separate and the one in ecuador actually I think is controlled by It could be controlled by the cabal but its it looks like a civilian corporation which pays the military a presence there to operate
DW: so you go through the jungle
ES: right
DW: drive all these miles
ES:right, then you hike about a mile and then they have a small station set up there near it not at the the entrance and it looks like a hole in the ground about 25 feet in diameter and full of just you know plants and everything so its not
CG: like a canute(?) kind of like a canute looking (I cant understand what Corey is saying, it sounds like canute or sanote or something)
ES: yes yes
CG: sunken down
ES: right sunken down like a sinkhole in the ground and you know there is so much fauna and flora around this so it has never been cleared because they are letting it grow and if you go down in it and you get past the
DW: you walk in or you drive in or what
ES: well you walk or actually it´s on a 45 degree angle for about 25 feet and then there is a small ladder type thing that goes down halfway to another little area but mostly everyone they have this big conveyors with these pallets its very generic but its very strong nothing is gonna happen that lowers you and raises you up and they can fit 4 people on there, with gear. So they lower you down, and then its very close to the surface
DW: wow
ES: and then once you get past the area where the light starts to diminish uh maybe a 100 feet or so then you notice that the ground looks different and it´s glistening and then it gets really moist the humidity is even more (laughs) than what it is which is a 100% to me at the tops so you know so you get down there so you do have this like this glowing mist fog you know its all over the place but its not spooky like you see in like a halloween and the thriller video its just a very it´s just a small you can see through the mist whats behind the cloud (?) and it stays about within a foot of the ground and once you get up in there then you see you might see some animals you might see some bats and you might see some other creatures that we have on earth but they all look very different they are different colors they are iridescent and they glow and they they are actually friendly like
DW: what was the size of the craft compared to the overall size of the cave?
ES: the cave was not too large it was maybe 75 80 feet at its largest width down to the smallest width is around 35 feet and the entrance is around 20 25 feet so it varies in a type of cone shape where it gets larger and smaller larger and smaller
DW:if there are caves like this that would have these weird animals and plants in them and you could just walk into it then why haven´t they appeared other places that people have found and documented in scientific journals?
ES: right, this is the interesting thing this craft is somehow emanating some sort of atmosphere inside the cave where these beings do not want to leave past a certain sphere of energy which they measure to be about a 120 feet
DW: hmm
es: so its just putting it right that energy right up to almost the entrance of this cavern within you know 50 to 80 feet
DW: wow
ES: so what is going on is because of this field of energy that they are measuring that is upregulating all the all the cells of all the plants and all the animals in a very they are all very healthy too and they are growing, the plants that are there are native to the actual cave but the plants that are out of that energetic field are a lot smaller and they dont have the same nutrient factor
DW: mmm
ES: at all and even the animals there are showing now through testing which I just recently found out but I couldn't share on the on earlier is that they are very healthy too and they have even longer nails and longer hair and they are a little bit larger than the normal species of animals that are that usually locate in this part of the cave including the insects, and the worms and the amphibians that make it down there so it is a very dynamic eco system that this craft has created because of the energy that it emits.
DW: what is the difference then between the ecuador site and the costa rica site is it the same kind of squashed egg shaped craft or?
ES: yes its very similar the craft is a little bit different but for the sake of explaining it it really has the same effect on the animals and the mammals and the amphibians that are in there and the plant life and it´s eh it looks like two when I think they took some sort of they are measuring how long it has been there and one of them is actually a little bit more recent than the other so these craft have definitely recently have crashed there in the last 30 to 40 years.
DW: oh wow
ES: and maybe even more recent and people are finding archaeologist are finding all through south america and central america all the way down to Peru they are starting to go through these cave systems now looking for craft
DW: ahh
ES: looking for different species because its getting out in the village and the local population down there that these things exist and now you have the birth of these treasure hunters and pirates and these people are smuggling a lot of this stuff out so I was just informed down in Peru that this is happening that they are pillaging some of this stuff they are getting in you know past the security and the security is actually you know part of this you know group of pirates and these people the government has not taken over that one yet
**************************************
and it continues but I am outta time. I can share the episode with you if you want as it says friends watch for free.

[ichingcarpenter]

radeev

''transcript to the best of my ability''.........................And your point is??? ....... oh he seen the caves in both countries, and has the pictures? NOT!!!

I guess you will take his word on it since he's had so much time on his hands after doing the 3000 examinations of aliens....... see my post on that time waste upthread

[Bill Ryan]

transcript to the best of my ability of Cosmic Disclosure season 12 episode 3 from around the 15th minute mark.

Many thanks indeed. Here's the full audio of the show:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Cosmic_Disclosure_S12E03_Secrets_from_the_Deep_State.mp3

(I'll reply to this a little later, btw.)

[radeev]

radeev

''transcript to the best of my ability''.........................And your point is??? ....... oh he seen the caves in both countries, and has the pictures? NOT!!!

I guess you will take his word on it since he's had so much time on his hands after doing the 3000 examinations of aliens....... see my post on that time waste upthread

my point was simply to provide a transcript, as another user wondered if had it. If you read my other post you see that I am undecided on his credibility. and the point of saying "to the best of my ability" is simply a precautionary approach to avoid potential blame for not transcribing accurately enough.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Here's the full audio of the show:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Cosmic_Disc...Deep_State.mp3


way smarter and faster with audio of the show, didn´t think of that! live and learn

[ichingcarpenter]

As of this weekend it ........Looks like Corey and David are really gone from Gaia with the new season and

Emery and George Snoorey are now holding down the fort for their shows for them. This also means Emery got a fat raise he was asking for?
I guess he has more stories to tell and Corey doesn't?....... I hope he brings photos of those caves by Golly

[Did You See Them]

Has Emery gone rogue on David ?

[Bill Ryan]

transcript to the best of my ability of Cosmic Disclosure season 12 episode 3 from around the 15th minute mark.

Many thanks indeed. Here's the full audio of the show:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Cosmic_Disclosure_S12E03_Secrets_from_the_Deep_State.mp3

(I'll reply to this a little later, btw.)I finally got round to listening to this, though radeev had kindly taken the trouble to post a transcript (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101752-Cosmic-Disclosure-s-EMERY-SMITH-is-a-hoaxer.&p=1248470&viewfull=1#post1248470) of part of it.

So now Emery is saying there are TWO caves, in Costa Rica and Ecuador, which BOTH have the same phenomena (including a crashed disk, still somehow active, just sitting there). And David Wilcock, despite his own intellect, never asks a single remotely intelligent question.

Emery Smith is a flat-out opportunistic pathological liar. I'd like to say you read it here first — but you probably didn't. :)

[Olam]

He's back.!!

g2Hhabv8KKQ

[WalterBosley]

Just watching this bro-dude elicits laughter.

[Andrew_K]

This was posted on Facebook today by someone called “Theodore Truthe” and verified by Patty Greer. Patty recently received an email regarding Emery Smith, detailing his history of fraudulent behavior and suggesting he might even be behind the infamous GEM (Gaia Employee Movement) emails, which got Patty in legal hot water.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TrutheSayer/permalink/253947025175472/



With a heavy heart we have to share this... there has been some rumors and videos released regarding Emery Smith and some former nefarious activity... until now most of the documentation has been missing... but, we have received copies of some of these documents. These will be shared below in the comments section... Thoughts?

TEXT of the Letter to Patty Greer is as follows:



Dear Ms Greer,

There are claims that E Smith is the Gaia Employee Movement (GEM). After some investigation it seams he is not as would appear to be character wise. There are some very alarming criminal and civil court case documents that portray an individual full of guile and deceit using mastery of interpersonal manipulation.

Please see the supporting documentation for your review.

E Smith Pled ‘Guilty’ to Credit Card Fraud and was sentenced to spend 5 years in jail (From 2001-2006)
Smith, Was granted supervised release and paid a $100k fine
Smith started heavy drug use and crime spree to support his habit in 1999
He has a criminal record that includes:
Trading drugs for cars and vise versa
ID Theft/Fraud with over 20 CC’s in 12 cities
Took part in organized animal food scams
Convicted of Cyber-Stalking
Arrested for drug position in Boulder, Co in 2018

He has a history of GEM type behavior in that it appears that he sows chaos and deceit into any group, organization, or personal relationship he happens to have gained confidence from.

Please see the supporting documentation for your review.
Thank you.

Here is a screenshot of the email:

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Next, here are the photos that were attached to the email, including Emery’s mugshot:

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This next attachment is paper-thin:

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Finally, here are the court records, which I think were all posted on this thread already:

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Meanwhile, it looks like Corey Goode is trying to distance himself from Emery. He deleted an interview with Emery by Jordan Sather from his Sphere Being Alliance YouTube channel. He probably got the memo. There might have been more Emery videos that were deleted.

[onawah]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

[Andrew_K]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

I think it was a mistake in recordkeeping. I was able to find the same information on mugshots.com:

https://mugshots.com/US-Counties/New-Mexico/Bernalillo-County-NM/Emery-Steven-Smith.148348937.html

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But that link isn't working right now, so here's a link to arrestfacts.com:

https://arrestfacts.com/Emery-Smith-4s7B72

Perhaps he used to identify as a female. :noidea:

I'm not an authority on mugshots, so I don't know what the significance is of there not being a number.

[Tam]

Yeah, Emery seems to be full of it to be sure, but a lot of this documentation seems fake. Also, the weird hacker person seems iffy at best. It's easy to fake websites or emails. in general, documentation can be faked and often is, so you always have to be super careful, especially in our neck of the woods.

The criminal history seems legit, though. Well done on that one.

[RunningDeer]

He's back.!!

g2Hhabv8KKQ
Guess-ta-ma-tion...

Interdimensional Light Beings Emery Smith and George Noory

TUByoHYPQJk

[onawah]

Those youtube videos are gone already- Gaia.com copyright issues.


He's back.!!

g2Hhabv8KKQ
Guess-ta-ma-tion...

Interdimensional Light Beings Emery Smith and George Noory

TUByoHYPQJk

[Andrew_K]

If it means anything, I found the source of another claim mentioned in the Patty Greer email:

https://sheriff.boco.solutions/JailOpenData/Home/JailBooking_ExportToExcel?bookingDate=3/24/2018%2012:00:00%20AM

And here’s my own screenshot:

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It says that Emery was arrested (again) on March 23, 2018 for possession of ketamine.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

That’s correct. We called the jail and verified that that individual in the photo was the actual individual linked with the booking number.

[onawah]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

That’s correct. We called the jail and verified that that individual in the photo was the actual individual linked with the booking number.

Did they say why he was listed as female?

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

That’s correct. We called the jail and verified that that individual in the photo was the actual individual linked with the booking number.

Did they say why he was listed as female?

They didn’t wish to respond to that question. We asked.

[onawah]

That should put the lid on his hoaxing for awhile, at least, once the word gets out enough.
Thanks for doing that Joe. All these hoaxers should be stopped asap from casting genuine UFO/ET research into doubt.
Very appropriate timing as we say au revoir to Bob Dean
I hope something similar can be proven about Richards.
I would think his phony bio would be enough to convince even Kerry, unless she is truly being mind controlled.
Maybe Bob will whisper some home truths in her ear.

[Bill Ryan]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

That’s correct. We called the jail and verified that that individual in the photo was the actual individual linked with the booking number.


That should put the lid on his hoaxing for awhile, at least, once the word gets out enough.

~~~

I have to say, that's quite an eyebrow-raiser. I wasn't at all sure what to make of that at first sight, but clearly this is all for real.

He has to be some kind of sociopath. Really. A compulsive, self-promoting, liar and fantasist. At some point, the truth will become known in all parts of the sadly all-too-gullible SSP-followers community.* It seems inevitable.

David Wilcock will have a tough time with that, too. He's proven to be so, so gullible, as well, on many counts now. He might not easily recover.

~~~



* An important note. I'm 100% convinced that a Secret Space Program exists, that there are very advanced classified capabilities, and that there are bases on the Moon and Mars that have been there for many years.

Looking at this whole sorry mess and the cast of characters which have been making a mockery of what was once an entirely serious research subject: if this was somehow all a deliberate strategy to discredit the whole notion and turn it into a Flat-Earth style laughing stock, one has to admire the genius and ability of those behind the scenes who made all this happen.

[Did You See Them]

Excuse me, but Smith is listed as female in that document.
I think all genuine mug shots have a number at the bottom which is assigned to each suspect, don't they?
Awfully big grin for someone in a lineup, in any case...

That’s correct. We called the jail and verified that that individual in the photo was the actual individual linked with the booking number.


That should put the lid on his hoaxing for awhile, at least, once the word gets out enough.

~~~

I have to say, that's quite an eyebrow-raiser. I wasn't at all sure what to make of that at first sight, but clearly this is all for real.

He has to be some kind of sociopath. Really. A compulsive, self-promoting, liar and fantasist. At some point, the truth will become known in all parts of the sadly all-too-gullible SSP-followers community.* It seems inevitable.

David Wilcock will have a tough time with that, too. He's proven to be so, so gullible, as well, on many counts now. He might not easily recover.

~~~



* An important note. I'm 100% convinced that a Secret Space Program exists, that there are very advanced classified capabilities, and that there are bases on the Moon and Mars that have been there for many years.

Looking at this whole sorry mess and the cast of characters which have been making a mockery of what was once an entirely serious research subject: if this was somehow all a deliberate strategy to discredit the whole notion and turn it into a Flat-Earth style laughing stock, one has to admire the genius and ability of those behind the scenes who made all this happen.


Couldn't have put it better - that's it in a nut shell.

I think the start of this latest disinfo charade was the "Stephenville" Texas sightings in 2008.
They needed to discredit it .. so out came the "UN Meetings" and "Source A" distraction/fiasco , then the blue chicken cult , whilst all the time we were all being fitted up for the biggest tin foil hats they could engineer !

[Bill Ryan]

Kevin Moore — who is now an Avalon member (kevin Moore (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?34427-kevin-Moore)) and who is making a documentary about Mark Richards (see this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103447-Problems-with-Mark-Richards-SSP-testimony-to-Kerry-Cassidy)), with member Geoff Reed (geofffxdwg (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?11150-geofffxdwg)) — has now interviewed Emery Smith and states he plans to make a documentary about him.

There are a bunch of YouTube comments about this, with everyone warning Kevin about Emery. Kevin's replies make it clear that the interview was recorded in June 2018, but he didn't seem to make it very clear what stance his documentary would take.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs87oceutIM

[WalterBosley]

If he's not falling for Richards, I seriously doubt he'll buy Smith.

[Valerie Villars]

Emery sounds and looks like he's on something. I am only relating my impression after a few minutes, which was all that's needed to see it.

[onawah]

I have to say, I hate to see anymore space on Avalon being devoted to such a gigantic hoaxster as Smith.

[Spellbound]

Emery sounds and looks like he's on something. I am only relating my impression after a few minutes, which was all that's needed to see it.

I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched a few mins of the above clip. Definitely looks like he just blazed one. I left a comment in the comment section saying how he (and others) are doing such a huge disservice to the exopolitic community.

Dave - Toronto