Our Journey & The Grand Deception : George Kavassilas : Part 1 : 1 of 6

[shiva777]

This guy brings up many important issues and will be worth a listen for many...I don't resonate with it all but much of it seems plausible to me....you decide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo&feature=related

[grace]

thanks shiva, I love george's stuff and really think he is coming from the right place with his teachings. here is another of his lectures... i come back to this one more often because it's more lighthearted and hopeful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unv7TZ9W9R0&feature=related

[yiolas]

George Kavasillas is must watch for anyone who hasn't yet. I caught up with his work about a year ago . It was a pivotal stage in my search for the truth. I wonder what he is up to these days. He has not been vocal at all ; a little bit reclusive.
I was so impressed by what he had to say that I even wrote B & K suggesting that they do an interview with him.

[grace]

I was so impressed by what he had to say that I even wrote B & K suggesting that they do an interview with him.

i wonder if Bill would be more willing to now since he is more focused on avalon... george really embodies avalon in a similar way to marcel messing. he's gathered masses of personal experience and strung together a lot of pieces of the puzzle and ended up with a message of hope and light at the end of the tunnel. i wonder if george would even be willing, though. he does seem to have cut himself off over the last year, i figure he is just living it up somewhere and letting things happen as they will

[samvado]

This guy brings up many important issues and will be worth a listen for many...I don't resonate with it all but much of it seems plausible to me....you decide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo&feature=related

This guy is 100% bullox. I dont know how anyone can take that stuff serious. Its worse than sheldan nidle, and thats saying something. dont waste your time.

[yiolas]

This guy is 100% bullox. I dont know how anyone can take that stuff serious. Its worse than sheldan nidle, and thats saying something. dont waste your time.

Wow Sam ! You sure are intense today.
I will bet you that if we took a poll on the resonance value of George Kavassilas work, that the majority of people would say that what he has to say is worth considering.

How about it ?

[Micjer]

The odd thing about George is that he gave the presentation from the galactic federation and then later did another presentation and said that some of the information in the first one was wrong and had been misled by dark entities. Sooo...now I am not sure what to believe.

[samvado]

Wow Sam ! You sure are intense today.
I will bet you that if we took a poll on the resonance value of George Kavassilas work, that the majority of people would say that what he has to say is worth considering.

How about it ?

yeah, you know - I actually watched it all - he has 3 series out on his site. it was amusing, but more from a psychological perspective.
a little man in your ear doesnt mean you hear the truth.

but from a content perspective I think his message speaks for itself, if you apply the usual rigor and discernment we have come to love about this forum (just joking of course).
I got this nice pm that I should have more sun, in that way i would be less negative. thanx, I lived (then) in a sun-every-day environment (canaries), so it must be my darn mind getting in the way.

But much like "ashtar" and sheldon, if you apply a miniscule of adult mind, they speak for themselves.

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The odd thing about George is that he gave the presentation from the galactic federation and then later did another presentation and said that some of the information in the first one was wrong and had been misled by dark entities. Sooo...now I am not sure what to believe.

yeah, isnt it funny with false dichotomies? consider both are bull. some people just channel themselves. or someone at COINTEL has fun with him.

[yiolas]

but from a content perspective I think his message speaks for itself, if you apply the usual rigor and discernment we have come to love about this forum (just joking of course).
I got this nice pm that I should have more sun, in that way i would be less negative. thanx, I lived (then) in a sun-every-day environment (canaries), so it must be my darn mind getting in the way.

But much like "ashtar" and sheldon, if you apply a miniscule of adult mind, they speak for themselves.

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yeah, isnt it funny with false dichotomies? consider both are bull. some people just channel themselves. or someone at COINTEL has fun with him.

Alas, everyone is on their own path of enlightenment.

The mind might get you where you want to go in this 3d world, but the heart will get you to 4d and beyond.
Furthermore, if you really think about it your heart will never lead you astray.

[lindabaker]

I watched all three parts of George's lecture from June 09 that was linked earlier. My question for those of you who watched his stuff: What is George's latest "feed" to the world on Galactic Federation versus Galactic Confederation? He sometimes goes into sarcastic mode about this, but then fails to let us know the point at which he switches back out, so it's confusing. Am I the only one not understanding, or do I have to listen to more lectures?

[Majorion]

Well I'm not gonna waste my time if this guy has anything remotely to do with GFL.

The problem with people who talk about "grand deceptions" is they're usually a deception themselves.

[Wood]

I've just watched 'Our Journey & The Grand Deception', part 1, part 2 and part 3. I think it perhaps mixes some truth but I am feeling it might be disinfo.

He states there are just three paths: false light, true light and technology. Why just three?

About incomming ET ships, he says we should not board them unless we want to follow the 'false light' path. It is going to be an interesting choice if ships actually come: to board them and expose ourselves to enslavement or to not board them and expose ourselves to die with the Earth. He said some things that make me wonder whether he was telling the truth or not:
* he said greys fight human-like ETs (the ones coming in the ships) but that they were really allied
* he said ETs have told the PTBs to build underground cities but that they are not going to survive. Why would do that ETs if they are coming with their ships that we should not board?
* he also mentioned we do not have to do anything. We might do meditation, etc but we do not need to do anything to 'ascend'.

I think he might be true, he has some good points but he also might be a disinfo agent. Maybe the PTBs are going into underground cities to resist incomming ETs and earth changes and they would want the rest of us to die and not to survive by boarding the ships... In the video he admits the earth is going to be destroyed but that this is the only way for true ascension. I have read people defending each side: to board the ships because human-like ETs would rescue us and to not board them.

I hope the choice will be clearer when (if) the time comes.

[Gita]

From what I’ve researched from this guy, he seemed to have gone through hell and back and in the end realised he was being deceived under the guise of all that ‘love and light’ stuff from the feds. What this guy solidified for me was that humans are the most powerful beings in our universe and we have the potential to rule and govern ourselves without any outside help whilst at the same time become one of the most revered species amongst our brothers/sisters in the cosmos.

Self-responsibility, self-governess, self-reliability, self-empowerment and self-trust is the main and most important message I got out of this and that’s good enough for me. On top of that I also got that we are the only ones that can save ourselves and we have to look within for the answers. Looking outside of ourselves results in playing the victim role and in that vulnerable role humanity could bring on its own demise whilst waiting for the ‘rescuer’ to arrive. We don’t need anyone to rescue us as we truly are powerful, spiritual beings.

[K626]

THis earth is already in the future, therefore I very much doubt it will be destroyed. It might be harmed, but it will recover.

[grace]

[QUOTE=Gita;9087]

Self-responsibility, self-governess, self-reliability, self-empowerment and self-trust is the main and most important message I got out of this and that’s good enough for me. On top of that I also got that we are the only ones that can save ourselves and we have to look within for the answers. Looking outside of ourselves results in playing the victim role and in that vulnerable role humanity could bring on its own demise whilst waiting for the ‘rescuer’ to arrive. We don’t need anyone to rescue us as we truly are powerful, spiritual beings.[/QUOTE

this is exactly how i felt and why i trust george. this is a good man trying to help people. he's not looking for a proffit, he has no superiority complex, and best of all he eminates kindness and has a sense of humor about it all.

for those interested, his website was updated for the first time in like a year today and it says a new presentation will be posted soon.

[Teakai]

Things it made me wonder - if it's true
If he's already been fooled by ET's once and given false information - how do we know that's not happening to him now? What if he;s been misled again and we really should be getting on the ships?

And if what he is saying is true - then how many contactess who think they're being guided by the good ET's are actually being led astray by them.

Are the greys really the good guys and just misunderstood?

I think it was David Wilcox? who said that we would be in a different dimension when all the real bad stuff was going down (I was half listening at the time)- did he mean those that went on board the ships?

Anyway, it's left me feeling that I know nothing!!!!
Well, I pretty much felt that way anyway, but now the nothing I know feels so much bigger :D

[G.Deluca]

i'm always sceptic about people that say they have contacts with benevolent ET,this time even more

[Snowbird]

I've watched several of GK's video presentations and quite frankly, I get the sense that he is the real deal. Can any of us say that we have never been deceived? Just living in the U.S. has been one great deception....until recently. I confess that I have been deceived while living here, but I now have spiritual eyes and ears and heart to know the difference. Its simply called growth.

Our earth and its people are ascending into a higher dimension. This is the reason that GK says that we should not fear and jump on a ship to attempt escape. Many of the ships currently close to Earth, have been built and paid for with U.S. tax money and worse. Boarding one of these, will definitely not get you where you want to go.

[grace]

A new George video was posted today on his website, for anyone who's interested in his stuff... http://georgekavassilas.org/gktalk032010.html
I thought it was a little slow at first but around video 4 or 5 he really finds his rythm and gets going. i think he might be little awkward speaking to a camera as opposed to speaking in front of a group of people, but he lets loose after a while. he talks about the Mantauk Project which i had never looked deep into but it's interesting, and he reveals some stuff about the large hadron collider. overall a great video, i really think george is coming from the right place.

oh and to those few who think George is getting his information from aliens, that's not true. he's communicating with his higher being/self and traveling interdimensionally, but everything comes from him and his own experiences.

for those that haven't watched anything by him yet, I would say go for "our journey and the grand deception" first before this one, since this is a sequel to that.

[yiolas]

Thanks for the shout-out Grace,
I too believe that George is a real trooper. Can't wait to watch the video.

[Moxie]

The distinction that he made was between the Galactic Federation of Light and the Galactic Council of Light... the latter being the authentic light path... it was a clarification he regarded as important to mention in The Grand Deception presentation, that he was formerly mistaken (wrong) citing the title incorrectly.

That was an important "clue" to me, this distinction between Federation and Council, look up the meanings... council is advisory.

I always appreciate first hand experiences.

[Gita]

The distinction that he made was between the Galactic Federation of Light and the Galactic Council of Light... the latter being the authentic light path... it was a clarification he regarded as important to mention in The Grand Deception presentation, that he was formerly mistaken (wrong) citing the title incorrectly.

That was an important "clue" to me, this distinction between Federation and Council, look up the meanings... council is advisory.

I always appreciate first hand experiences.

+1 :thumb:

Thanks Grace for posting the link. :)

[stardustaquarion]

Hi Moxi, I don't know much about Kavassilas but I agree that there is a difference in the meaning. There are many councils in the heavenly realms but they opperate a policy of equality and work on a horizontal rather than pyramidal structure. There are no ascended masters or ladies or lords or commanders etc., as we are all equal regardless of our expertise

There is an Interdimensional Federation of Free Worlds to which the beneficial beings suscribe and comprises countless collectives of races and universes, better know as the Guardian Alliance

:wave:

[grace]

so i was just googleing around and searched for "project genesis" and this is one of the websites that came up: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Project_Genesis
apparently they took the phrase right from a Star Trek episode. i guess when you name your mission to transport people from earth and restructure their energetic bodies to make them suitable to live on an alien planet, there is no harm in having a sense of humor.

[Mu2143]

I checked this guy out and listen to his video "Our Journey and the Greatest Secret on Earth "

Sounded all to great, but something was not right. But I was keep listen till a point in the video he is referring to the 2012 movie and that we have to get on a ship or go true a portal. That is the big trap!!!!he also exposes him self by talking about how the PTB have another lie ready for you to deceive.

He is liar and a deceiver !!! if you haven't check this out yet and our not sure about it research it !!
http://www.georgekavassilas.org/

One I do listen to is Jessica Mystic
http://www.jessicamystic.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=21&func=view&id=2209&catid=11

[Grizzom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLr_ZnZyqyc&feature=youtube_gdata

Beware of Ouija Board prophets!

This guy is making this crap up and his so called "Science" is laughable at best!
I doubt he ever took a physics class in his life and his documentation looks like he wrote it on a bar napkin. :lol: