Tom DeLonge: Friend or Foe?

[Tam]

Hey, guys.

At this point, Tom DeLonge and his impressive research team can no longer be ignored. While the ball has been rolling for quite some time now, I've noticed a distinct spike in alien-related articles on some lesser-known msm sources the past couple of weeks, and now, this:

https://www.thefader.com/2018/02/27/aliens-exist-feature/amp

At this point, I can no longer remain silent. I'm aware there already exists a rather large thread about DeLonge already, but I figured I'd make this one to start a discussion/debate on whether or not DeLonge is to be trusted, specifically. In other words, the other focuses on his discourse, movement, and one-stop shop for all the material related to him and his movement. This thread focuses more on the man himself, and what it all means. Basically, the following: what he may be truly represented by, and what this means for the future of an area of study I personally hold quite dear. I'm sure a lot of the stuff mentioned in the other thread will be briefly rehashed here. I hope that won't be an issue, and that these two threads will work in tandem with one another.

I'll start the discussion by throwing in my 2 cents.

I am of the increasing personal opinion that, at best, DeLonge is a cocky, gullible wannabe with lots of money and ego trying to wedge himself into the Hall of Fame. While none can deny he has a very impressive Dream Team, as the man who's spearheading this movement, he needs to be under very heavy scrutiny.

He was the face of a very famous band, and while this can be disregarded as the past, something about this whole thing nevertheless does not sit right with me, and his initial fame instantly skyrockets him to a very wide audience, one I or the majority of the people on this board can only dream of having.

As they say, it's too good to be true.

For starters, he's far too biased. You'd think someone that is trying to reach the wide audience of "everyone" would show a little more discretion with his personal beliefs, and would not present some of the more contested stances/topics in this area as fact.

Not so with DeLonge. He cherry-picks what he likes best, and presents only that. Red flag already; how can we trust the larger judgment of someone who is unable to filter in an open, yet objective way?

He's already seemed to have some degree of possible responsibility for the big Pentagon Disclosure a couple of months back (which, unsurprisingly, went very quiet very fast), so it would be a big mistake to underestimate him, as well as his game, and loads of money.

But that isn't the biggest part that gets to me.

As I said, this is too good to be true. Why would Disclosure go mainstream now, out of the blue, with a partial MIC stamp of approval? Something of the magnitude of Disclosure, which would, at the very least, completely obliterate the reality of millions of people overnight, should not be taken lightly, and any sudden shift in the direction of Disclosure, after decades of silence and smear campaigns, should be actively met with no small degree of suspicion.

While I am no fan of Steven Greer, he's nevertheless made his mark deservedly so in this field, and every time I read about DeLonge, his warnings about a false-flag invasion of sorts rings in my mind.

I have no idea how, and if, this will play out. We can only speculate the many ways that can go.

But remember this: it's easier to attract flies with honey than with vinegar. A wise proverb that's pretty much the anti-thesis to most of the New Age movement.

I think DeLonge may be sincere, but as George Knapp suggested with his interview a while back, maybe Tommy boy is being played by his military friends.

DeLonge pretty much rejected this notion entirely, which, at best, is idiocy. Anyone with half an ounce of sense would learn to be weary of the MIC.

I'm not saying that Tom is sponsored by some dark sources, and deliberately spreading disinfo. Nor am I taking this possibility off the table. Or any other.

All I'm saying is, we need to be vigilant. This could be more insidious than we'd like to believe.

[Wind]

Blink-182 used to be a thing, but I don't think it's that relevant anymore. Many people do know who Tom is though and many Average Joe's think that he has gone off the rails. I don't know if it's an ego trip or what, I haven't looked too deeply on it. If he's genuinely trying to bring the truth into the forefront then kudos to him, but I agree that we have to always be a bit wary about these kind of things. I have a hard time believing anything that comes from the US government. The "disclosure" which came from Pentagon late last year was interesting enough, but it seemed to be so soft that it hardly had any effect on the general population. The subject of UFO's is a still a very fringe thing, it's out of the ordinary people's minds.

[Did You See Them]

But that isn't the biggest part that gets to me.

As I said, this is too good to be true. Why would Disclosure go mainstream now, out of the blue, with a partial MIC stamp of approval?

2 articles today

I Think They NEED to disclose some of what they already have or else ! !!!

When the first "tourist" ship arrives at the moon and they realize they have a mobile signal people will ask questions !

So ...

"Moon to get 4G mobile network"
Mobile giants Vodafone and Nokia have laid out plans to launch a 4G mobile network on the Moon in 2019.
The network will be used by lunar rovers to stream data back to a base station.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/moon-4g-mobile-network-vodafone-nokia-ptscientists-rovers-space-exploration-lunar-landing-a8232151.html

When tourists in space start seeing other "vehicles" up there with them they will need an excuse.

"US Air Force Chief of Staff General David L. Goldfein predicted it’ll only be a “matter of years” before American forces find themselves “fighting from space.” To prepare for this grim possibility, he said the Air Force needs new tools and a new approach to training leaders. Oh, and lots of money."
https://gizmodo.com/us-air-force-chief-warns-of-space-war-in-a-matter-of-y-1823321806

They NEED us to start seeing this stuff rolling out or their digging a hole for themselves !

[ALLiTiZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0OFEqTxLn8

I feel like this video belongs here. Truthstream Media does a great job of explaining who really runs the Disclosure Movement.

[ExomatrixTV]

Just-a-Rant-on-the-Disclosure-Movement http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101862-Just-a-Rant-on-the-Disclosure-Movement

[mojo]

.. honestly haven't watched one thing or listened to anything about him. He came on the scene rather quick and I haven't seen any material he actually presented but noticed that the people that get the UFO award of the year 100K does not go to people that do the field investigations but instead it goes to those that are popular and known on the talking circuit like Lee Spiegel whom received the award 2 years ago. Any award like that should go to the people on the front line. This guy has zero input in the field so far to justify it but maybe thats being cynical and he will make a mark in the field but so far I dont see it.

[WhiteFeather]

FWIW....My spidey senses do tingle when he speaks. It happened the first time when I listened to him on an interview on fade to black. I have to say in listening to him, I do no believe a word he says and he reminds me a lot of Corey Goode. Ooops, Sorry for bringing up that name if i offended anybody. Yeah I don't connect with Tom. And he could very well be an operative chess piece that the government is utilizing in their little game of Shills. To be blunt.

[norman]

If I'd asked the question, I'd have made it a triplet.

Friend, foe or fool.

His confidence that he's a bit different and ahead of the rest, puts him firmly in the last category, as I see him.

I can well imagine how the people he contacted smiled and invited him back. There's always room for a few more prize guys in the control game.

[CurEus]

We may also want to consider that Delonge with his "relative" fame may be useful as a tool in bringing other demographic groups into some form of "awareness".
Goode has already started Social Networking campaigns and is recruiting "youth" to help him communicate his message as part of some bizarre dynamic BUT without DeLonge's "illustrious" advisory team.

I am aware that most of us are not part of either's true target audience. Perhaps we were never intended to be.

A trickle of disclosure may be the "best" way to go about things...and we may just have to wait for everyone involved in most of the nefarious government, corporate activities are dead before that happens. As has been observed many times, the true crimes, lies and coverups would be considered unforgivable by most people...

Dark Journalist has a decent expose series on DeLonge and I tend to share his opinion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NleOdhG1s

[Joe from the Carolinas]

I think delonge is either knowingly (most likely) or unknowingly being used by intelligence assets. Here’s my initial analysis I filmed just after delonge’s public “reveal” last October.

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[Bill Ryan]

Someone who's an asset doesn't always know they're an asset.

(The most useful assets are often those who don't know. That's because they feature built-in failsafes against others trying to prove deliberate conspiratorial connections.)

[Sunny-side-up]

I think delonge is either knowingly (most likely) or unknowingly being used by intelligence assets. Here’s my initial analysis I filmed just after delonge’s public “reveal” last October.

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Hi Joe liked your vid and analysis, keep them coming :happythumbsup:

One small personal thing though, I would like open contact visuals with you in your vid's, I don't like staring at shades (sunglasses) ;)

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Someone who's an asset doesn't always know they're an asset.

(The most useful assets are often those who don't know. That's because they feature built-in failsafes against others trying to prove deliberate conspiratorial connections.)

Thank you Bill- that does make sense. Built-in failsafes would certainly explain why delonge was so painfully difficult to watch and follow on his interview with joe rogan.
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Sunny side up- thank you, I’m looking for a clearer pair that still filters out UV. I have light colored eyes and squint terribly.

[Tam]

Sunny side up- thank you, I’m looking for a clearer pair that still filters out UV. I have light colored eyes and squint terribly.

Might I suggest facing away from the sun? ;P

Jokes aside, though, if you want a good, affordable pair of glasses, check out ZeniOptical. They make really great quality glasses you can customize, without the outrageous prices that your opthalmologist or sunglasses specialists swindle the public for in the States. We know how that's basically impossible to acquire by conventional means here. Because 'screw you', is the general consensus of suppliers.

Fun fact:

Luxottica is a great name to add to your 'A**hole Repertoire'. They're the supergiant corporation responsible for the outrageous pricing of glasses literally everywhere in the US. They own 80% of the brands that sell glasses here, and also have a couple of major medical providers in their pocket. Hooray for monopoly!

I like to call them Lutoxica.

Further info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7H-_8UkmFU (never been a fan of CollegeHumor and infotainment of its ilk, but this is a pretty informative video if you can ignore the flashiness)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anaswanson/2014/09/10/meet-the-four-eyed-eight-tentacled-monopoly-that-is-making-your-glasses-so-expensive/#7a1889826b66

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And no, I am NOT being paid/sponsored or whatever. I've plugged about 3 or 4 products on this forum in the relatively short time I've been on it, so the last thing I want is people to think I'm a sellout shilling products for a cut. Nothing personal; just trying to nip what would be an understandable suspicion in the bud.



/Aaaaand back to topic!

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Apparently Elizando is getting ready to release some NASA ufo film, provided to him exclusively by NASA...... it’s either unique, or maybe posted before, might be new or a few years old... all this according to a friend of a NASA employee who will not be named.


I wish I was creative enough to make this garbage up. Here’s my report on what is quickly becoming tabloid trash (literally).

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[Foxie Loxie]

"Reason, Logic and Common Sense".....That's why we love you, Joe! :shielddeflect: Keep percolating!! :waving:

[Amenjo]

Here's the latest offering from Tom Delonge's instagram.

"To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science has formally entered into negotiations with Earth Tech Advanced Propulsion Laboratory to partner with, acquire, and control the rights to Dr. Hal Puthoff’s BEAMED ENERGY PROPULSION (launch of satellites using high-powered lasers) and his breakthrough SPACETIME METRIC ENGINEERING (Dr Puthoff has been the Senior Physicist with the AATIP PROGRAM for 15 years under the Department of Defense and developed the physics and mathematics needed to create a spacecraft that can “bend space-time,” also sometimes referred to as “anti-gravity”). The enormous traction TTSA has gained in the past 6 months is unbelievable and I could not be more excited and proud. We aim to have 6 @tothestarsofficialscience-fiction film franchises from our Entertainment Division going into pre-production this year; including Feature Film, docu-series and episodic Television. And, we have also initiated negotiations on the acquisition of major intellectual property within our Aerospace Division. We expect tremendous growth to follow, and we will be announcing much more soon."

Seems to be a bit of a discrepancy here, previously they said that AATIP started in 2009, now they're saying that Puthoff was working with AATIP for 15 years!! Something's not adding up.

Also can't find anything on the Net about "Earth Tech Advanced Propulsion Laboratory" so haven't a clue who they are?

Love and Truth,


Amenjo

[Joe from the Carolinas]

"Reason, Logic and Common Sense".....That's why we love you, Joe! :shielddeflect: Keep percolating!! :waving:

:) thank you, will do!

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Here's the latest offering from Tom Delonge's instagram.

"To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science has formally entered into negotiations with Earth Tech Advanced Propulsion Laboratory to partner with, acquire, and control the rights to Dr. Hal Puthoff’s BEAMED ENERGY PROPULSION (launch of satellites using high-powered lasers) and his breakthrough SPACETIME METRIC ENGINEERING (Dr Puthoff has been the Senior Physicist with the AATIP PROGRAM for 15 years under the Department of Defense and developed the physics and mathematics needed to create a spacecraft that can “bend space-time,” also sometimes referred to as “anti-gravity”). The enormous traction TTSA has gained in the past 6 months is unbelievable and I could not be more excited and proud. We aim to have 6 @tothestarsofficialscience-fiction film franchises from our Entertainment Division going into pre-production this year; including Feature Film, docu-series and episodic Television. And, we have also initiated negotiations on the acquisition of major intellectual property within our Aerospace Division. We expect tremendous growth to follow, and we will be announcing much more soon."

Seems to be a bit of a discrepancy here, previously they said that AATIP started in 2009, now they're saying that Puthoff was working with AATIP for 15 years!! Something's not adding up.

Also can't find anything on the Net about "Earth Tech Advanced Propulsion Laboratory" so haven't a clue who they are?

Love and Truth,


Amenjo

Quite a bit isn’t adding up about this whole thing. Initially their circular said that if they raised a million bucks they would engage in producing some sort of telepathy device.

Now they’re doing beamed energy and 6 film franchises???

How do they acquire intellectual property within their own division? Isn’t that kind of like saying, “we’re thinking of what to do with our aerospace division that only exists on paper?”

The office space that they supposedly are renting was previously either owned or rented by one of delonge’s family members.

[mojo]

How can one square Greers negative assessment of the DeLonge group based on his dismissal of Dr Nolans research on the Atacama humanoid and this group? Many on the forum distrust Greer to say the least yet many on the forum also question Tom DeLonge? The reason I ask is because I wanted to reach out again to Dr Nolan. But if people here have concerns about DeLonge and I recently found out that Dr Nolan is part of the group. I was hoping to get more analysis done on my videos.