Your thoughts on personal protection from fallout/radiation

[mojo]

Maybe it would be best to be at ground zero when it happens but ever the boy scout in me wonders about being prepared. There's more and more a concern we are close to a flashpoint even crazy Kim Jung Un. What should a person have in terms of personal protective equipment in order to move out of an area and to get somewhere clear of radiation it might mean even a suit is necessary. Please share your thoughts thanks.

[Bill Ryan]

Potassium Iodide tablets.


https://emergency.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp

[Bob]

Potassium Iodide tablets.


https://emergency.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp


One a day regularly here

[Bob]

While I am thinking about it - NAC - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19427509

N-acetyl cysteine protects against ionizing radiation-induced DNA damage.

I recall in the mid 60's reading about what the Soviet Union was recommending for protection for its troops against nuclear fallout.. Cysteine. Specifically Acetyl-Cysteine was recommended. I've used this on and off, but I certainly don't like using it regularly. It messes with the mucous membranes..


NAC administration via drinking water fully protected against DNA strand breaks in mice whole-body irradiated with 1Gy but not with 4Gy.

NAC treatment in the absence of irradiation was not genotoxic.

These data suggest that, given the safety and efficacy of NAC in humans, NAC may be useful in radiation therapy to prevent radiation-mediated genotoxicity, but does not interfere with efficient cancer cell killing.

Something like if there is an attack, it would be good thing to use, but not in any prophylactic ways.

[Bob]

As the op question asks about dealing with fallout - GO INDOORS as quickly as possible and prevent external air drafts from entering..

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-survive-nuclear-attack-fallout-radiation-2017-6

A car is the least ideal place to shelter.


Where you should shelter from fallout

Your best shot at survival after a nuclear disaster would be to immediately get into a "robust structure" and stay there. Buddemeier is a fan of the mantra "go in, stay in, tune in."

"Get inside ... and get to the center of that building," he said. "If you happen to have access to belowground areas, getting below ground is great."

Besides cars, the poorest shelters are made of wood, plaster, and other materials that wouldn't shield much radiation — about 20% of houses fall into this category. Better shelters, such as schools and offices, are made of bricks or concrete and have few or no windows.

Soil is a great shield from radiation, Buddemeier says, so ducking into a home with a half basement would be better than going into a place with no basement at all.

How long inside? stay in 12 to 24 hours.


And, moving to a stronger shelter or basement may not be a bad idea if you initially ducked into a flimsy one.

But whatever structure you're moving to should be less than five minutes away. (Though if you're very close to the blast site, stay put in whatever you can find.)

=- Update -=

Be careful venturing outside.. I'd wear a good dust mask with no leaks, something disposable, and have disposable booties and disposable gloves to be able to handle things. I'd have a polyethylene inner layer covered by a white cotton outer layer. One can easily have a visual indication if one is contacting dark colored dust on the gloves.

And lastly a portable dosimeter (http://seintl.com/support/distributors.html), to show total exposure. One can't just assume there isn't a high or low concentration of radioactive dusts/sands..

Dump the gloves and booties, and dump the dust respirator using a fresh one.. If it's dusty stay away from the dust.

Needless to say, don't be drinking raw untreated surface water or assume that the water supplied by the utilities is safe.. Bottled water is considered safe, there shouldn't be any "radioactive water" in bottled water if it is sealed. Filtered surface water should be checked for any residuals which make it through the filter.. The filter if processing radioactive water most likely WILL be contaminated over time.. Reviewing the filter with a radiation meter would show how contaminated it is.

[ghostrider]

you have two hours after detonation if you are far enough from ground zero , to get upwind from the fallout ... if you drop anything on the ground leave it , then proceed to wash your entire body with warm soapy water ... bag your clothes , and wear something else not contaminated ... it was my mos in the army 54E nuclear, biological, chemical defense ... the first two hours are the most critical , be mobile , and get at distance ... the greatest asset is distance , then its get underground , dirt is an insulator ... they have plenty of products available that are inexpensive ... pay close attention to the direction of the wind ... keep it in your face ...

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yes. Good advice. I find that in addition, one should familiarize oneself with the basics of what "radiation" is.

I'm not an expert, but maybe Bob could fill us in.

I know that radiation doesn't "spread", which seems to be a common misunderstanding. Things don't suddenly "become" sources of radiation by proxy, or because a "wave of radiation" passed by. Instead objects can become irradiated by fine particles of radioactive components - the dust Bob talked about.

The high energy stuff that happens when a bomb explodes is another matter entirely. That stuff would be the gamma rays and such with very high momentum from the initial explosion. That goes through everything in its path. After that stuff the danger is mostly slow moving blast particulates of radio-active material. They can take days to months to fall out of the atmosphere. But anything that was normal matter before is still normal matter after so long as no radio-active dust contaminates them. That's why Bob says stay indoors, make sure no air from outside gets in...

[Cidersomerset]

Just saw this article not what you are asking mojo but interesting...

Alien life could thrive off radiation – study

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Published on 1 Mar 2018
A new study shows life on other planets could be far more likely than previously
imagined. A new study out of Sao Paulo sheds light on how some bacterium
thrives on radiation to survive, instead of sunlight, which powers the majority
of life here on Earth. RT America’s Natasha Sweatte explains.

[Vernaianawa]

Get and be as prepared as your able then really move into being thankful and happy, build up your gratitude for everything you feel and have. Maybe doing some prep for having good minded people around you post whatever happens.

[Michelle Marie]

Miso soup for protection against radiation

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Miso Protects Against Radiation, Cancer, and Hypertension
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/miso-protects-against-radiation-cancer-and-hypertension

Miso Soup Found to Protect against Radiation Exposure
http://naturalsociety.com/miso-soup-protects-against-radiation-exposure/

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Kelp Granules

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Kelp or Kale: Is Seaweed Superfood?
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/20/kelp-seaweed-benefits.aspx

MM :hat:

[Czarek]

I would start with purchasing some kind of instrument that measures radiation exposure. If you are in a field of high exposure, you want to seek areas that are of low fields. Number 2 is you need to ensure you are eating food that is not contaminated. And for that you need to acquire a second device i.e. contamination meter.
Depending on where you are, and time after exposure, you'll be facing various radioactive isotopes but the general one size fits all solution is to have lots of Baking soda on hand (to take naths should your avatar got contaminated) and a supply of lots of clean uncontaminated clothes you can change into.
Number 3 is location of an artesian water supply.
HTH
Czarek

[mojo]

I would start with purchasing some kind of instrument that measures radiation exposure.
Thanks purchased a 1950s Vitoreen model 710 CD radiation meter on ebay for like 6 bucks a few years back but found that meter is not as sensitive and by the time it registers your way over a safe dosage so best to get a newer model. It seems like a good invest to determine the environment though, a mask and covering is also a consideration for walking out of a hot zone... Plus the pills Bill mentions also the right filter plus extras...

[Czarek]

As far as you diet, you're only drinking artesian water and you're fasting. When you're eating, you should eat mostly steamed vegetables. When you eat, greatest portion of the meal are vegetables. Don't sweat it if you can't get your hands on Lugols solution. When you do, it's 10 drops per day for 10 days for an average adult body size. Check expiry...
I'm a radiation safety officer at my daily grind and I've taken METER course many times...
Get a friend at a nuclear medicine department is my final suggestion if you don't have the financial means to acquire two instruments that I highly recommend you have in your possession.