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Hervé
13th March 2018, 21:35
Another tool in the information war: Experts warn against digitally altered video (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/experts-warn-of-digitally-altered-video-becoming-weaponized/)
CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/experts-warn-of-digitally-altered-video-becoming-weaponized/)
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Alec Baldwin is to some a perfect stand-in for President Trump. But in a digitally-altered video online, the president's face has been digitally stamped onto Baldwin's performance.
It's part of a wave of doctored audio and video now spreading online.
"The idea that someone could put another person's face on an individual's body, that would be like a homerun for anyone who wants to interfere in a political process," said Virginia Senator Mark Warner. He believes manipulated video could be a game-changer in global politics.
"This is now going to be the new reality, surely by 2020, but potentially even as early as this year," he said.
"Derpfakes" is the anonymous YouTuber who has made fake videos of President Trump, Hillary Clinton and Vladimir Putin, based off of performances by the cast of "Saturday Night Live."
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In a message to CBS News, he said he does it for "fun." And though he sees the potential for fake news, he adds: "People will have to adapt as the tech is here to stay."
Hany Farid (http://web.cs.dartmouth.edu/people/hany-farid) runs a lab at Dartmouth College aimed at exposing digital fakes.
Correspondent Tony Dokoupil asked Farid, "Are we ready for this?"
"No. We are absolutely not ready for this. We are absolutely not ready for it," Farid replied. "On so many different levels, we're not ready for it."
For starters, Dokoupil asked Farid to make a fake video. "I want to replace your face with Nicholas Cage's," he said.
Why Nick Cage? "Just because it's awesome," Farid laughed. "No other reason."
The result: "You can look at that all day long, and that, I tell you, is a pretty compelling fake," Farid said.
The method, recently published online by an anonymous developer, is one of several that Farid is tracking. This program demonstrated in the video below can change facial expressions in real-time.
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And there is an Adobe program that can create new audio from written text.
"Right out of the gate, that's terrifying," Farid said. "I mean, that is just terrifying. Now I can create the president of the United States saying just about anything."
Adobe calls this an "early-stage research project." While the company acknowledges the potential for "objectionable use," it believes "the positive impact of technology will always overshadow the negative."
All these methods have legitimate uses in digital video and design. But Farid worries they'll be weaponized, too.
"I think the nightmare situation is a fake video of a politician saying, 'I have launched nuclear weapons against a country.' The other country reacts within minutes, seconds, and we have a global nuclear war," Farid said.
His lab is developing tools to quickly identify fakes. But Farid suspects this is just the beginning of a longer struggle.
"We have a 'fake news' phenomenon that is not going away," he said. "And so add to that fake images, fake audio, fake video, and you have an explosion of what I would call an information war."
Sen. Warner said, "There is no Democrat or a Republican that would be safe from this kind of manipulation. But, boy oh boy, we need as a country to get our act together."
Warner is asking the major tech companies to work with Congress to rein in false news, and now also false video.
CBS News reached out to a number of tech companies for comment and heard back from Reddit and Facebook. Both companies are aware of this false video phenomenon and are looking for ways to regulate it.
Valerie Villars
13th March 2018, 22:34
Well, they are forcing us to go inward and trust what we know and not what we see, more and more. Oh well, too bad for them. Dumb move.
Ernie Nemeth
13th March 2018, 22:52
If we weren't the exception, I'd agree.
petra
13th March 2018, 22:55
Wild! That is just seamless. This is the same reason I cannot watch a UFO vid (sorry UFO folk)
Well, they are forcing us to go inward and trust what we know and not what we see, more and more. Oh well, too bad for them. Dumb move.
I think you might have that backwards? We can not trust what we see, not according to this.
It IS a dumb move though. It's like saying "here you go, take our tricks"
O Donna
14th March 2018, 00:00
What will the history books ultimately call this era now forming?
The age that never was?
Flash
14th March 2018, 01:51
We should make one of Bill eating his hat lolll
Valerie Villars
14th March 2018, 01:55
If we weren't the exception, I'd agree.
We have more power. Power versus Force. We vibrate at higher levels. It's exponential. You know that.
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Wild! That is just seamless. This is the same reason I cannot watch a UFO vid (sorry UFO folk)
Well, they are forcing us to go inward and trust what we know and not what we see, more and more. Oh well, too bad for them. Dumb move.
I think you might have that backwards? We can not trust what we see, not according to this.
It IS a dumb move though. It's like saying "here you go, take our tricks"
Petra, that is what I said. We can't trust what we see. Those who discern learn to trust themselves. :heart:
norman
14th March 2018, 02:17
When lying stops working for them, hey, they can bury the truth in white noise.
Works just like the way they keep secrets that they don't have full control over. More noise, more noise, more noise. It's all they have left now they know we know they are lying about everything.
I agree about going within for the truth.
uzn
14th March 2018, 02:23
realtime, ILM had it for some time now, as had others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N96em3n_9Q
Unreal 4 Gameengine (realtime Facerig):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_FALeUc8c
Joe from the Carolinas
14th March 2018, 02:36
Unveiling 30 year old technology again huh? Didn’t they do this during the Reagan years with audio?
Also I guess all of their video surveillance tech and body cameras are no longer admissible in court?
dynamo
14th March 2018, 03:06
Unveiling 30 year old technology again huh? Didn’t they do this during the Reagan years with audio?
Also I guess all of their video surveillance tech and body cameras are no longer admissible in court?
good point,JoefromtheCarolinas. Toss out all the photo radar speeding tickets while we're at it LOL!!!:clapping:
Satori
14th March 2018, 03:06
Unveiling 30 year old technology again huh? Didn’t they do this during the Reagan years with audio?
Also I guess all of their video surveillance tech and body cameras are no longer admissible in court?
This raises a very valid point about the trustworthiness and reliability of video as evidence. Laying a foundation for the admissibility of audio, photos, film and video is always required as a condition to getting these things into evidence. But, with the state-of-the-art technology available to alter, manipulate and fabricate these things, the proponent of the evidence may have a harder time convincing a judge or a jury that there have not been any alterations and the like, and that what they hear and see should be believed.
In other words, like any of us outside of a courtroom setting, in a court juries and judges would be justified in being more skeptical than ever before about the veracity of audio and video etc...and require strict proof that it is not altered.
How much of what we see on MSM and elsewhere is fake?
"No planers" anyone?
petra
14th March 2018, 15:12
If we weren't the exception, I'd agree.
We have more power. Power versus Force. We vibrate at higher levels. It's exponential. You know that.
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Wild! That is just seamless. This is the same reason I cannot watch a UFO vid (sorry UFO folk)
Well, they are forcing us to go inward and trust what we know and not what we see, more and more. Oh well, too bad for them. Dumb move.
I think you might have that backwards? We can not trust what we see, not according to this.
It IS a dumb move though. It's like saying "here you go, take our tricks"
Petra, that is what I said. We can't trust what we see. Those who discern learn to trust themselves. :heart:
I was understanding completely wrong, even after reading it over and over! The "Dumb Move" was tripping me up I think. And now I feel Dumb, ha. :)
Joe Akulis
14th March 2018, 15:15
Bill can't virtually eat his fake hat until we see the video of half of America's judges and sheriffs and ceos and politicians virtually being handcuffed and carted off to fake jail. :-)
Mark (Star Mariner)
14th March 2018, 15:33
The more I think about this new tech, the more I suspect it is being rolled out now - deep into the public awareness - to counter what is to come. If vids get leaked, and come to light of well-known figures doing terrible things, as part of the Trump's "drain the swamp" campaign, this will be their defence. "Fake vid, fake news, nothing to see here."
petra
14th March 2018, 15:45
Hmm.... "to counter what is to come". Like fighting fire with fire I guess.
I bet people are getting threatened with fake stuff too. I mean, how could they not?
It's bad enough when you're getting threatened with real stuff, let alone fake stuff.
Foxie Loxie
14th March 2018, 16:10
As I just posted on another thread....normal, everyday people will find it hard to believe what is going to come out about the Ruling Elite...so if they can lay it to Fake Vids....:confused:
Valerie Villars
14th March 2018, 16:43
At least some of the kids are aware of the level of fakery and deception. I know my nephew is but he is very computer saavy. He knows what's happening and what technology is capable of. On the other hand, my niece who is around the same age is not and seems to be much more establishment.
Same old war with different players.
gord
14th March 2018, 16:57
I downloaded the following page "Lying With Pixels" exactly 2 weeks ago from www.technologyreview.com/s/400734/lying-with-pixels/ (http://www.technologyreview.com/s/400734/lying-with-pixels/)index.html. Notice the date: July 1, 2000. As you can see, it's now gone. [edit: the page is still there. Just leave off "index.html" at the end of the link - my bad]
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Lying With Pixels
Seeing is no longer believing. The image you see on the evening news could well be a fake - a fabrication of fast new video-manipulation technology.
by Ivan Amato July 1, 2000
Last year, Steven Livingston, professor of political communication at George Washington University, astonished attendees at a conference on the geopolitical pros and cons of satellite imagery. He didn’t produce evidence of new military mobilizations or global pandemics. Instead, he showed a video of figure skater Katarina Witt during a 1998 skating competition.
In the clip, Witt gracefully plies the ice for about 20 seconds. Then came what is perhaps one of the most unusual sports replays ever seen. The background was the same, the camera movements were the same. In fact, the image was identical to the original in all ways except for a rather important one: Witt had disappeared, along with all signs of her, such as shadows or plumes of ice flying from her skates. In their place was exactly what you would expect if Witt had never been there to begin with-the ice, the walls of the rink and the crowd.
So what’s the big deal, you ask. After all, Stalin’s staff routinely airbrushed persona non grata out of photos more than a half-century ago. And Woody Allen ushered a variation on reality morphing into the movies 17 years ago with Zelig, in which he inserted himself next to Adolf Hitler and Babe Ruth. In films such as Forrest Gump and Wag the Dog, reality twisting has become commonplace.
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What sets the Witt demo apart-way apart-is that the technology used to “virtually delete” the skater can now be applied in real time, live, even as a camera records a scene and instantly broadcasts it to viewers. In the fraction of a second between video frames, any person or object moving in the foreground can be edited out, and objects that aren’t there can be edited in and made to look real. “Pixel plasticity,” Livingston calls it. The implication for those at the satellite imagery conference was sobering: Pictures from orbit may not necessarily be what the satellite’s electronic camera actually recorded.
But the ramifications of this new technology reach beyond satellite imagery. As live electronic manipulation becomes practical, the credibility of all video will become just as suspect as Soviet Cold War photos. The problem stems from the nature of modern video. Live or not, it is made of pixels, and as Livingston says, pixels can be changed.
The best-known examples of real-time video manipulation so far are “virtual insertions” in professional sports broadcasts. Last January 30, for instance, nearly one-sixth of humankind in more than 180 countries repeatedly saw an orange first-down line stretched across the gridiron as they watched the Super Bowl. New York-based Sportvision created that line and inserted it into the live feed of the broadcast. To help determine where to insert the orange pixels, several game cameras were fitted with sensors that tracked the cameras spatial positions and zoom levels. Adding to the illusion of reality was the ability of the Sportvision system to make sure that players and referees occlude the virtual line when their bodies traverse it.
Last spring and summer, as Sportvision and rivals such as Princeton Video Imaging (PVI) in Lawrenceville, N.J„ were airing virtual insertion products, including simulated billboards on walls behind major league batters, a team of engineers from Sarnoff Corp. in Princeton, N.J., flew to the Coalition Allied Operations Center of NATO’s Operation Allied Force in Vicenza, Italy. Their mission: transform their experimental video processing technology into an operational tool for rapidly locating and targeting Serbian military vehicles in Kosovo. The project was dubbed TIGER, for “targeting by image georegistration.” “Just dial in the coordinates and the thing goes,” explains Michael Hansen, a young, caffeinated Sarnoff gadgeteer who can hardly believe he was helping fight a war last year.
Compared to PVI’s job, the military’s technical task was more difficult-and the stakes were much higher. Instead of altering a football broadcast, the TIGER team manipulated a live video feed from a Predator, an unmanned reconnaissance craft flying some 450 meters above Kosovo battlefields. Rather than superimposing virtual lines or ads into sports settings, the task was to overlay, in real time, “georegistered” images of Kosovo onto the corresponding scenes streaming in live from the Predator’s video camera. The terrain images had been previously captured with aerial photography and digitally stored. The TIGER system, which automatically detected moving objects against the background, could almost instantly feed to the targeting officers the coordinates for any piece of Serbian hardware in the Predator’s view. This was quite a technical feat, since the Predator was moving and its angle of view was constantly changing, yet those views had to be electronically aligned and registered with the stored imagery in less than one-thirtieth of a second (to match the frame rate of video recording).
In principle, the targeting step could have been hotwired to precision guided weapons. “We weren’t actually doing that in Allied Force,” Hansen notes. “We were just telling targeting officers exactly where Serbian targets were and then they would vector in planes to go strike the targets.” That way the human decision makers could pre-empt flawed machine-made decisions. According to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, TIGER technology was used extensively in the final three weeks of the Kosovo operation, during which “80 to 90 percent of the mobile targets were hit.”
So far, real-time video manipulation has been within the grasp only of technologically sophisticated organizations such as TV networks and the military. But developers of the technology say it’s becoming simple and cheap enough to spread everywhere. And that has some observers wondering whether real-time video manipulation will erode public confidence in live television images, even when aired by news outlets. “Seeing may no longer be believing,” says Norman Winarsky, corporate vice president for information technology at Sarnoff. “You may not know what to trust.”
The Sublime to the Ridiculous
A crude form of video manipulation already is happening in the satellite imagery community. The weekly publication Space News reported earlier this year that the Indian government releases imagery from its remote-sensing satellites only after defense facilities have been “processed out.” In this case, it’s not real-time manipulation and it’s up front, like a censor’s black marker. But pixels are plastic. It is perfectly possible now to insert sets of pixels into satellite imagery data that interpreters would view as battalions of tanks, or war planes, or burial sites, or lines of refugees, or dead cows that activists claim are victims of a biotech accident.
A demo tape supplied by PVI bolsters the point in the prosaic setting of a suburban parking lot. The scene appears ordinary except for a disturbing feature: Amidst the SUVs and minivans are several parked tanks and one armored behemoth rolling incongruously along. Imagine a tape of virtual Pakistani tanks rolling over the border into India pitched to news outlets as authentic, and you get a feel for the kind of trouble that deceptive imagery could stir up.
Commercial suppliers of virtual insertion services are too focused on new marketing opportunities to worry much about geopolitics. They have their eyes on far more lucrative markets. Suddenly those large stretches of programming between commercials-the actual show, that is-become available for billions of dollars worth of primetime advertising. PVI’s demo tape, for instance, includes a scene in which a Microsoft Windows box appears-virtually, of course-on the shelf of Frasier Crane’s studio. This kind of product placement could become more and more important as new video recording technologies such as TiVo and RePlayTV give viewers more power to edit out commercials.
Dennis Wilkinson, a Porsche-driving, sports-loving marketing expert who became CEO of 10-year-old PVI about a year ago, couldn’t be happier about that. Wilkinson’s eyes gleam when he describes a (near) future in which virtual insertion technology pushes advertisements to the personalized extreme. Combined with data-mining services by which browsers’ individual likes, dislikes and purchasing patterns can be relentlessly tracked and analyzed, virtual insertion opens up the ability to shunt personally targeted advertisements over phone lines or cables to Web users and TV viewers. Say you like Pepsi but your neighbor next door likes Coke and your neighbor across the street likes Seven-Up-the kind of data harvestable from supermarket checkout records. It will become possible to tailor the soft-drink image in the broadcast signal to reach each of you with your preferred brand.
Just 15 minutes up the road from PVI, Sarnoff’s Winarsky is also glowing-not so much about capturing market share as about the transforming power of the technology. Sarnoff has a distinguished history in that regard; the company is the descendant of RCA Laboratories, which started innovating in television technology in the early 1940s and has given birth to a plethora of media technologies. The color TV picture tube, liquid crystal displays and high-definition TV all came, at least in part, from RCA qua Sarnoff, which has five technical Emmys in its lobby.
The ability to manipulate video data in real time, he says, has just as much potential as some of these forerunners. “Now that you can alter video in real time, you have changed the world,” he says. That may sound inflated, but after looking at the Katarina Witt demo, Winarsky’s talk of “changing the world” loses some of its air of hyperbole.
Deleting people or objects from live video, or inserting prerecorded people or objects into live scenes, is only the beginning of the deceptions becoming possible. Pretty much any piece of video that has ever been recorded is becoming clip art that producers can digitally sculpt into the story they want to tell, according to Eric Haseltine, senior vice president for R&D at Walt Disney Imagineering in Glendale, Calif. With additional video manipulation technologies, previously recorded actors can be made to say and do things they have never actually done or said. “You can have dead actors star again in entirely new movies,” says Haseltine.
Contemporary shots featuring footage of dead performers have been around for several years. But the Hollywood illusion-craft that, for example, inserted John Wayne into a TV commercial required painstaking, frame-by-frame post-production work by skilled technicians. There’s a big difference now, says Haseltine: “What used to take an hour [per video frame], now can be done in a sixtieth of a second.” This dramatic speed-up means that manipulation can be done in real time, on the fly, as a camera records or broadcasts. Not only can John Wayne, Fred Astaire or Saddam Hussein be virtually inserted into pre-produced ads, they could be inserted into, say, a live broadcast of The Drew Carey Show.
The combination of real-time, virtual insertion with existing and emerging post-production techniques opens up a world of manipulative opportunity. Consider Video Rewrite technology, which its developers at the Interval Corp. and the University of California, Berkeley first demonstrated publicly three years ago. With just a few minutes of video of someone talking, their system captures and stores a set of video snapshots of the way that a person’s mouth-area looks and moves when saying different sets of sounds. Drawing from the resulting library of “visemes” makes it possible to depict the person seeming to say anything the producers dream up-including utterances that the subject wouldn’t be caught dead saying.
In one test application, computer scientist Christoph Bregler, now of Stanford University, and colleagues digitized two minutes of public-domain footage of President John F. Kennedy speaking during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. Using the resulting viseme library, the researchers created “animations” of Kennedy’s mouth saying things he never said, among them, “I never met Forrest Gump.” With technology like this, near-future political activists conceivably will be able to orchestrate webcasts of their opponents saying things that might make Howard Stern sound like a mensch.
Haseltine believes video manipulation techniques will quickly be carried to their logical extreme: “I can predict with absolute certainty,” he says, “that one person sitting at a computer will be able to write a script, design characters, do the lighting and wardrobe, do all of the acting and dialog, and post production, distribute it on a broadband network, do all of this on a laptop-and viewers won’t know the difference.”
The End of Authenticity
So far, the widely witnessed applications of real-time video manipulation have been in benign arenas like sports and entertainment. Already last year, however, the technology began diffusing beyond these venues into applications that raised eyebrows. Last fall, for instance, CBS hired PVI to virtually insert the network’s familiar logo all over New York City-on buildings, billboards, fountains and other places-during broadcasts of the network’s The Early Show. The New York Times ran a front-page story in January raising questions about the journalistic ethics of altering the appearance of what is really there.
The combination of real-time virtual insertion, cyber-puppeteering, video rewriting and other video manipulation technologies with a mass-media infrastructure that instantly delivers news video worldwide has some analysts worried. “Imagine you are the government of a hypothetical country that wants more international financial assistance,” says George Washington University’s Livingston. “You might send video of a remote area with people starving to death and it may never have happened,” he says.
Haseltine agrees. “I’m amazed that we have not seen phony video,” he says, before backpedaling a bit: “Maybe we have. Who would know?”
It’s just the sort of scenario played out in the 1998 movie Wag the Dog, in which top presidential aides conspire with a Hollywood producer to televise a virtually crafted war between the United States and Albania to deflect attention from a budding Presidential scandal. Haseltine and others wonder when reality will imitate art imitating reality.
The importance of the issue will only intensify as the technology becomes more accessible. What now typically requires an $80,000 box of electronics the size of a small refrigerator should soon be doable with a palm-sized card (and ultimately a single chip) that fits inside a commercial video recorder, according to Winarsky. “This will be available to people in Circuit City,” he says. Consumer gear for virtual video insertion is likely to require a camcorder with a specialized image-processing card or chip. This hardware will take signals from the camera’s electronic image sensors and convert them into a form that can be analyzed and manipulated in a computer using appropriate software-much as photo editors at newspapers use Adobe Photoshop and other programs to “clean up” digital image files. A home user might, for instance, insert absent family members into the latest reunion tape or remove strangers they would prefer not to be in the scene-bringing Soviet-style historical revisions right into the family den.
Combine the potential erosion of faith in video authenticity with the so-called “CNN effect” and the stage is set for deception to move the world in new ways. Livingston describes the CNN effect as the ability of mass media to go beyond merely reporting what is happening to actually influencing decision-makers as they consider military, international assistance and other national and international issues. “The CNN effect is real,” says James Currie, professor of political science at the National Defense University at Fort McNair in Washington. “Every office you go into at the Pentagon has CNN on.” And that means, he says, that a government, terrorist or advocacy group could set geopolitical events in motion on the strength of a few hours’ worth of credibility achieved by distributing a snippet of well-doctored video.
With experience as an army reservist, as a staffer with a top-secret clearance on the Senate’s Intelligence Committee, and as a legislative liaison for the Secretary of the Army, Currie has seen governmental decision-making and politicking up close. He is convinced that real-time video manipulation will be, or already is, in the hands of the military and intelligence communities. And while he has no evidence yet that any government or nongovernment organization has deployed video manipulation techniques, real-time or not, for political or military purposes, he has no problem conjuring up disinformation scenarios. For example, he says, consider the impact of a fabricated video that seemed to show Saddam Hussein “pouring himself a Scotch and taking a big drink of it. You could run it on Middle Eastern television and it would totally undermine his credibility with Islamic audiences.”
For all the heavy breathing, however, some experts remain unconvinced that real-time video manipulation poses a real threat, no matter how good the technology gets. John Pike, an analyst of the intelligence community for the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, D.C., says the credibility risks are simply too great for governments or serious organizations to get caught attempting to spoof the public. And for the organizations that would be willing to risk it, says Pike, the news folks-knowing just what the technology can do-will become increasingly vigilant.
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meeradas
14th March 2018, 20:53
Wait 'til all this is coupled with holographic projection/ overlay... [any]one could enter a podium on stage and pose/ speak as... whoever. LIVE.
Future "candidates running for office" could be fully virtual - a mix of the statistically most-appealing-to-the-public audio-visual traits form the perfect avatar for the job - real-time.
John Shirley saw it coming (http://www.powells.com/book/-9781607013303), but hey, that's "just SciFi"...
Ernie Nemeth
14th March 2018, 22:17
So now everything presented as audio/video must be suspect.
What I see happening is that again, a person will have to make a choice about who to believe. Will it be Dan Rather or Walter Cronkite? Or the new flavors that I don't know. Lloyd Robertson?
The viewer will have to accept the determination of the validity of a snippet by their trusted front man, since nothing in the form of video can be trusted to be recorded in real time with the characters actually shown doing what they are actually shown doing.
This way those in authority can concoct any scenario they wish and play it back to us as if it were real and true. The day of the wizard is gone, replaced by a little balding man pulling ropes and pushing buttons behind a curtain.
Tam
15th March 2018, 19:38
Meh...the videos shown in the OP aren't exactly seamless. They're weirdly empty and robotic, the animations reminiscent of a high-end video game, and you can clearly see the neck superimposed on the original chest in the second video. The faces are also ever so slightly 'off'. If I saw this on TV, I would definitely notice that it's fake (albeit a good one), unless it was a passing glance.
I'm sure millions more would also catch it as well (and the same amount would not).
That being said, this is more than likely a breadcrumb, as others have said. If we've managed to reverse engineer spacecraft, (likely) have a presence throughout the SS, and are able to manipulate the human mind like Play-Do, I'm sure that having totally-indistinguishable-from reality fake footage is child's play.
Hell, throw a clone out there to do some public speaking. Evidence suggests that they very much exist.
I honestly don't think this is something to freak out about. This is like a joke to 'Them', almost, because I guarantee you the world was wrapped around their fingers long before this 'new' technology came out. When the world is as thoroughly rigged as it is, how can we be sure of anything, really?
While interesting, I personally don't think it heralds the imminent doom of free information, or the ability to distinguish fact from reality. While we're relatively 'awakened', we're still very much asleep, in the grander scheme of things.
Maybe I'm being too fatalistic, or, on the flip side, too naive, but I don't know. I can't help but feel apathetic about this kind of thing.
Edit:
To avoid potential misunderstanding, I am not saying we shouldn't be alarmed at the degree to which information is controlled, censored, and construed...it is monumentally clear that we absolutely should be. I'm just saying that this development is hardly what I would call a turning point :)
gord
16th March 2018, 17:12
Meh...the videos shown in the OP aren't exactly seamless. They're weirdly empty and robotic, the animations reminiscent of a high-end video game, and you can clearly see the neck superimposed on the original chest in the second video. The faces are also ever so slightly 'off'. If I saw this on TV, I would definitely notice that it's fake (albeit a good one), unless it was a passing glance.
I'm sure millions more would also catch it as well (and the same amount would not).
That being said, this is more than likely a breadcrumb, as others have said. If we've managed to reverse engineer spacecraft, (likely) have a presence throughout the SS, and are able to manipulate the human mind like Play-Do, I'm sure that having totally-indistinguishable-from reality fake footage is child's play.
Hell, throw a clone out there to do some public speaking. Evidence suggests that they very much exist.
I honestly don't think this is something to freak out about. This is like a joke to 'Them', almost, because I guarantee you the world was wrapped around their fingers long before this 'new' technology came out. When the world is as thoroughly rigged as it is, how can we be sure of anything, really?
While interesting, I personally don't think it heralds the imminent doom of free information, or the ability to distinguish fact from reality. While we're relatively 'awakened', we're still very much asleep, in the grander scheme of things.
Maybe I'm being too fatalistic, or, on the flip side, too naive, but I don't know. I can't help but feel apathetic about this kind of thing.
Edit:
To avoid potential misunderstanding, I am not saying we shouldn't be alarmed at the degree to which information is controlled, censored, and construed...it is monumentally clear that we absolutely should be. I'm just saying that this development is hardly what I would call a turning point :)
Exactly how a limited hangout would be done. Move along now, nothing to see here...
uzn
22nd March 2018, 09:49
realtime, live in a gameengine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxErDzsIdKI
uzn
25th March 2018, 22:47
realtime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9owTAISsvwk
Did You See Them
10th January 2019, 16:10
Seattle news = Fake !
Doctored live broadcast of Trump on left.
As blatant as it gets
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DeeMetrios
15th January 2019, 02:18
This came to my attention today & its a must share ...
(mods if there is another thread already on this topic i apologize )
Perhaps Trump is onto something "always referring to fake news"
From Nexus Newsfeed.com
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They say, “Seeing is believing” and “A picture is worth a thousand words.” Well, get ready for what seems like an incredibly unbelievable display of fake news reporting.
If you watched President Trump’s talk to the Nation regarding the border wall the evening of January 9, 2019, you may, or may not have seen, what amounts to a deliberate fake news report, insofar as a TV station editing and inserting into their live feed, something President Trump did NOT do: i.e., stick out his tongue to the camera. Hopefully, that display of unprofessional media madness was local to the Seattle area TV audience.
WAS VIDEO OR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TUESDAY ADDRESS DOCTORED ?
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In a side-by-side comparison, Q13 Fox in Seattle appears to have edited its coverage of Trump’s address, turning the president’s skin color a ludicrous shade of orange. In between sentences, the station seems to have doctored the footage to show Trump sticking out his tongue and licking his lips.
Source: RT
Note the difference in President Trump’s facial skin color: Orange, as opposed to the juxtaposed side-by-side real live CNN feed of the President’s speech!
InfoWars reported “SEATTLE NEWS STATION CAUGHT DOCTORING TRUMP VIDEO TO MAKE PRESIDENT LOOK STUPID Deep fake technology used to portray Trump as an idiot; Media ignores.”
This type of flagrant fake news doctoring, in particular, needs to be prosecuted as a criminal act, which it is, and in violation of the TV station’s code of operations, plus ethics.
(Update: The editor has been fired, according to Q13 Fox)
What more proof do citizens need to understand that the U.S. news media, 90% of which is owned by six corporations, are NOT reporting most of the ‘news’ accurately.
For those who are unfamiliar with the advancement of this type of technology, please see Melissa Dykes’ report “Reality” Edited in Real Time: New Tech Shows Why You Can’t Trust Anything You See on the News and view the video below.
NEW TECH SHOWS WHY YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NEWS
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By Catherine J Frompovich / Writer
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Maybe Trump knows about these new techniques ?
Cheers
ripple
15th January 2019, 07:54
I love incidents like this one . They are so amateurish and therefore inept that I laugh .
If Fake News was always so easy to spot and then ridicule , life would be easy and a blast . But the real and dangerous Fake News to worry about is so much more than a clown posting the equivalent of a rude name or a cartoon type drawing .
And of course in this instance the clown was suspended , if not fired , from memory .
yelik
15th January 2019, 09:35
This technology is a real threat that adds another level of deception and barrier to truth
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