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onawah
15th March 2018, 19:25
It's a big subject, created by many different causes, but I think we need to tie it all together into a thread about food shortages specifically.
The discussion can be broken down most simply into:
What is causing it?
What can be done about it?
What are the effects?
Some answers:
My mentor the late Dr. Christopher Hills, focused on developing survival foods Spirulina and Chlorella. See:http://hillsfoundation.org/
The rise of vertical farming - (VPRO documentary - 2017)
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World's largest vertical farm grows without soil, sunlight or water in Newark
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/aug/14/world-largest-vertical-farm-newark-green-revolution
Abandoning Malls For Vertical Farms
https://urbanverticalfarmingproject.com/2016/08/22/abandoning-malls-for-vertical-farms/
Food & Farm Act: Our Best Hope for Healthy Food, Farms and Soil
https://www.organicconsumers.org/blog/food-farm-act-our-best-hope-healthy-food-farms-and-soil
Some Causes:
Not by Fire, but by Ice on Red Ice Radio
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Earth Changes Update Food Shortages, Evolutionary Leap Via Pole Shift, Record Snow & Cold
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ALERT: Media Hiding 2018 Food Shortages -- Rising Prices to cause Unrest in GSM
Ice Age Farmer
1/20/18
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WHAT THEY WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT THE COMING TOTAL FOOD COLLAPSE
SGTreport
Published on Sep 27, 2017
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Some effects:
Mad Max Road Looting of Food Shipments Solar Declines & Dark Ages Return
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Tam
15th March 2018, 19:54
I've noticed a considerable decline in both volume and quality of produce at my local supermarket.
Of course, the 15-pound chickens and jars of tomato sauce are still aplenty.
The vertical farm thing is a great idea...maybe one day it will be the norm.
This would pair well with the following solution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
A holistic, sustainable way to reverse desertification and drastically help with climate change, which would result in more places to grow food, of course!
This has been tested and worked on all 6 continents across 40,000 hectares with staggering success, and you wanna hear the best part?
It's 100% natural
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onawah
15th March 2018, 20:07
Here's the video embedded:
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I've noticed a considerable decline in both volume and quality of produce at my local supermarket.
Of course, the 15-pound chickens and jars of tomato sauce are still aplenty.
The vertical farm thing is a great idea...maybe one day it will be the norm.
This would pair well with the following solution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
A holistic, sustainable way to reverse desertification and drastically help with climate change, which would result in more places to grow food, of course!
This has been tested and worked on all 6 continents across 40,000 hectares with staggering success, and you wanna hear the best part?
It's 100% natural
:hippie:
Tam
15th March 2018, 20:09
Thanks so much! I need to learn how to do that.
Cardillac
15th March 2018, 21:21
as I live in continental Europe I haven't yet recognized any significant changes yet but I wouldn't doubt these changes may soon come to us-
Larry
Wind
15th March 2018, 22:03
Self-sufficient people and communities will have it more easy. Those who are relying on supermarkets... Well. Cities have food supplies which might last for three days and you know how people can be when they get hungry. Are our governments preparing for food shortages? Doesn't look like that to me. Could they feed seven billion people anyways? Especially when they're not even bothering to feed all the hungry people in the world at the moment and that could be fixed if there would be the will to do so. Seems that they have prepared lots of bullets though, but I don't think they're meant for eating.
Thank you Onawah for making a thread about this crucial matter.
dynamo
16th March 2018, 00:14
Most of the agricultural farming output is being used to feed cattle, pigs and chickens, not humans...just sayin'...
Ernie Nemeth
16th March 2018, 00:40
Live in a bubble, ___ when the bubble bursts...just sayin'
onawah
17th March 2018, 05:15
In the US, two very key issues regarding possible food shortages are the "slow slip" all along the West Coast of the US, where so much of the food for the entire country is produced.
Dutchsinse has been educating youtubers about that for years now.
His recent reports posted here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98526-Dutchsinse-s-Earthquake-Reports-and-Forecasts&p=1214590&viewfull=1#post1214590
as follows:
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... and the one here (among others):
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... describe very well what the West Coast slow slip is and how it is coming more and more to resemble the slow slip that formed directly preceding the huge earthquake that hit Japan in 2011, killing thousands, destroying whole towns, damaging nuclear reactors and creating a devastating tsunami.
More drought is expected on the West Coast this year, and that could possibly be followed again by heavy rainfall, neither of which is good for crops or for the infrastructure, as we witnessed last year.
When dams fail and roads and levees are washed out, what food has been grown in spite of drought cannot be shipped.
Becoming sustainable locally is becoming more and more of a necessity.
The other issue is the infrastructure in California.
The Oroville Dam has been repaired for the most part to the tune of many millions since extensive damage from last year's rain, but from most reports, many if not all of the dams and levees etc. in the Golden State are in need of repair or replacement, not to mention roads and bridges.
See the latest report on the Oroville Dam here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95955-Oroville-Dam...--California-Spring-2017-current-&p=1214755&viewfull=1#post1214755
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Two demonstrations of how globalism isn't working; for the most part, these problems are not being addressed adequately by our "leaders", and wars, the buildup of arms, space weaponry, etc. are not going to help.
See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-&p=1213916&viewfull=1#post1213916
onawah
17th March 2018, 05:47
Grand Solar Minimum Explained & Solutions to Thrive During the Changes
Feb 6, 2018
Three good sources of information about surviving coming changes came together for this roundtable discussion, Adapt 2030, Christian of Ice Age Farmer & Diamond of Oppenheimer Ranch :
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Joe from the Carolinas
17th March 2018, 07:32
Problems- Quantities of packed food, weights of fresh produce, and standards of what is now labeled “organic” food are all being reduced year after year.
Industrial agriculture can’t keep up.
It is a failed experiment.
Solutions: buy food from a farmers market (they sell everything from fruits and vegetables to local meat and fish).
Grow perennial vegetables (like asparagus, yacon, oca, which come back every year)
Sprout seeds and eat the sprouts (nature’s answer to the multivitamin)
cultivation of mushrooms (long term production for years and years, most hate direct sunlight)
Thoughtfully sculpting a piece of landscape to naturally catch and store rainwater, take advantage of on-site resources, and let nothing go to waste (we call this permaculture.. permanent agriculture)
We do not need to eat like a rabbit to have a satisfying and sane meal. Although, rabbits are extremely easy to raise in a small space, harvest, cook, and eat.
Regarding vertical hydroponics, one thing that isn’t discussed in promotional materials is the rate of mold & root rot. In either case you’re talking major harvest losses and major time intensive cleaning and maintenance of the entire system. Look into aquaculture instead (grow your own fish or shrimp and use their water to feed your growing vegetables in the same space).
If we have 50 people each on their own average postage stamp sized suburban lot, each growing a few different things that interest them per season, there will more than enough food to go around.
Remember the victory gardens of WWII?
onawah
17th March 2018, 17:11
EXACTLY!!!:highfive::star::flower::sun:
Problems- Quantities of packed food, weights of fresh produce, and standards of what is now labeled “organic” food are all being reduced year after year.
Industrial agriculture can’t keep up.
It is a failed experiment.
Solutions: buy food from a farmers market (they sell everything from fruits and vegetables to local meat and fish).
Grow perennial vegetables (like asparagus, yacon, oca, which come back every year)
Sprout seeds and eat the sprouts (nature’s answer to the multivitamin)
cultivation of mushrooms (long term production for years and years, most hate direct sunlight)
Thoughtfully sculpting a piece of landscape to naturally catch and store rainwater, take advantage of on-site resources, and let nothing go to waste (we call this permaculture.. permanent agriculture)
We do not need to eat like a rabbit to have a satisfying and sane meal. Although, rabbits are extremely easy to raise in a small space, harvest, cook, and eat.
Regarding vertical hydroponics, one thing that isn’t discussed in promotional materials is the rate of mold & root rot. In either case you’re talking major harvest losses and major time intensive cleaning and maintenance of the entire system. Look into aquaculture instead (grow your own fish or shrimp and use their water to feed your growing vegetables in the same space).
If we have 50 people each on their own average postage stamp sized suburban lot, each growing a few different things that interest them per season, there will more than enough food to go around.
Remember the victory gardens of WWII?
ghostrider
17th March 2018, 17:35
multiple causes ,overpopulation , peoples lack of self responsibility , and the results are after three days ,the most kind hearted person will become primitive savage and dangerous ... too many depending on the shelfs to be stocked with what they need ... fishing , trapping , hunting , or planting trees that produce fruit , or growing vegetables is a lost art ... 300 years ago there was no wal-mart , no super market , almost everyone made what they needed , and the farmer was the man ... back in the old times every man was a tradesman , blacksmith , gunsmith , leather maker , baker , ect , every man had a skill that the community needed ... the trading post was the hub , men traded with items other men needed , now look how foolish we are , we trade with paper , that can't be eaten , won't pull a wagon , or seal a leaky roof ... you get my point ... it's a domino effect of lack of self responsibility ...
onawah
17th March 2018, 19:00
BLINDED BY TECHNOLOGY COLD TIMES: PREPARING FOR THE MINI ICE AGE
Down to earth interview with a wise woman who grew up on a farm, lives in the rural Ozarks (my corner of the world) and is an expert on preparedness, author of 14 books including COLD TIMES.
Anita Bailey PhD Interview - Part 1
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About the Author COLD TIMES
Anita Bailey has a diverse and unique background – starting with arts and literature, then to alternative health care such as reflexology and herbal remedies, through commercial livestock raising sheep and goats, then organic homesteading, and now to a cow-calf operation. Along the way, her family lived without electricity for two years. She became a registered nurse, then a Master’s level nurse practitioner working in primary care and urgent care for two decades, and earned her Doctorate in the field. Between canning and preserving the various foods grown in a large garden and acquiring her SCUBA card, she trained and utilized dogs of different breeds for search and rescue operations, and completed a second Master’s degree in Disaster Preparedness and Emergency Management. She’s the author of hundreds of articles on small farming, peer-reviewed scholarly works in Alzheimer’s and nursing research, and popular how-to books writing as Anita Evangelista. She is married and living the dream in the RURAL OZARKS.
This is her fourteenth book.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Times-How-Prepare-Mini-ebook/dp/B077LZCGHP
More books from Anita: https://www.amazon.com/Anita-Evangelista/e/B001HPI6T4
The Freedom Train
18th March 2018, 01:59
Time to go to the all you can eat buffet and pack it in while you still can!
onawah
18th March 2018, 22:45
Part 2 Cold Times: Preparing For The Mini Ice-Age Part 2
Anita Bailey PhD Interview
Oppenheimer Ranch Project
Published on Mar 18, 2018
In part 2 of our March Preparedness Month featuring Anita Bailey Phd, author of Cold Times:Preparing For The Mini Ice-Age we discuss food and water - The two most importans resources you can secure for the coming collapse. We chat about water storage, logistics and filtering. Location, location, location. We discuss long term dry storage and growing your own food as well as many other important topics you need to know. Enjoy!
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onawah
25th March 2018, 17:19
Anita Bailey Interview Part 3 - Cold Times - Prepping For The Mini Ice Age
Oppenheimer Ranch Project
Published on Mar 24, 2018
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In part 3 of our March Preparedness Month featuring Anita Bailey Phd, author of Cold Times:Preparing For The Mini Ice-Age we discuss chapters 7,8,9 from her book . Join us for a stimulating conversation that will help you prepare for the events that may unfold in the near future.
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