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jmaf6556
26th March 2018, 03:29
Hi everyone, I’d like to share a couple of new United Earth videos I just made:
United Earth Declaration Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY1VahHcosk
United Earth Declaration full text:
Purpose
To create greater oneness, peace, love, freedom, and happiness on Earth, we the Earth family choose to unite as one United Earth.
Foundational Values
God
As one Earth family, we share one supreme destiny and source, the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all.
Oneness
As one Earth family, we share one goal, perfect and infinite oneness, peace and love, which creates the highest good and mightiest power for the united, as it is unified, collective harmony and synergy that produces the greatest joy and abundance.
Truth
As one Earth family, we share one heart and mind. We are completely truthful, honest, open, and transparent.
Equality
As one Earth family, we share one equal level of importance. We are all of equal status. We treat all equally well.
Freedom
As one Earth family, we share one equal state of perfect and infinite harmony and freedom. We honor one anothers' liberty, sovereignty, autonomy, independence, individuality, and self-responsibility. Also, we welcome and include all, all are free to join us.
Devotion
As one Earth family, we share one purpose, the greatest good of all. We work to sustain our oneness constantly, and contribute to the best of our ability continuously.
Members
Earth and Her people, animals, plants, minerals, and other natural forms.
Conclusion
Unified action on Earth would greatly help solve today's urgent sustainability problems. Let's all unite as one United Earth.
"Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno" (One for all, all for one) - Latin phrase, Switzerland motto
Alternative Names
Earth Union
United Gaia
Nations on Earth Featuring "Unity" in Their Names
European Union
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United Nations
United States (The Union)
United States Quotes
"One Nation under God, indivisible..." - United States Pledge of Allegiance
"We the People... in Order to form a more Perfect Union..." - United States Constitution
"E pluribus unum" (Out of many, one) - United States Motto
"Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union" - Name of the first United States constitution
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness [emphasis added]" - United States Declaration of Independence
Other Declarations
Declaration of Hope, for One United Nation for the Great Earth Peace
Declaration of the Indigenous Summit of the Americas
Global Declaration of Interdependence
Global Greens Charter
New Earth Nation Treaty
Our Mother Earth Constitution
The Earth Charter
The Free World Charter
The Fuji Declaration
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Universal Declaration of Rights of Mother Earth
United Earth Foundation Video (Revised): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHLebdLRsBY
(This one makes clear that the essence, center, and core of the foundation is the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all)
Script:
""There will come a day when people of all races, colors, and creeds will put aside their differences. They will come together in love, joining hands in unification, to heal the Earth and all Her children."
– Navajo-Hopi Prophecy of The Whirling Rainbow
"The Circle has healing power. In the Circle, we are all equal. When in the Circle, no one is in front of you. No one is behind you. No one is above you. No one is below you. The Sacred Circle is designed to create unity. The Hoop of Life is also a circle. On this hoop there is a place for every species, every race, every tree and every plant. It is this completeness of Life that must be respected in order to bring about health on this planet."
- Dave Chief, Oglala Lakota
"This Round Table was ordained of Arthur that when his fair fellowship sat to meat their chairs should be high alike, their service equal, and none before or after his comrade. Thus no man could boast that he was exalted above his fellow, for all alike were gathered round the board, and none was alien at the breaking of Arthur's bread. At this table sat Britons, Frenchmen, Normans, Angevins, Flemings, Burgundians, and Loherins. Knights had their plate who held land of the king, from the furthest marches of the west even unto the Hill of St. Bernard."
- "Arthurian Chronicles: Roman de Brut", by Wace
There’s a growing movement of people on Earth today who share one purpose, to cocreate a world of greater oneness, peace, love, freedom, happiness, truth, equality, and sustainability for all.
While much progress is being made, our movement can be more powerful if we focus together, if we remember our most essential shared value, oneness, and unite as one.
To unite effectively, it would be ideal to establish a completely equally shared, equality and freedom-based, communal, public, democratic, neutral, universal, all-inclusive, syncretic, open foundation, whose essence is the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all, through which we can all unite as one circle of free equals.
Firstly, to provide a supreme, perfect and infinite example and source of unifying power, the essence of the foundation would be the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all.
Secondly, to maximize oneness, kinship, solidarity, harmony, synergy, and peace, among all, the foundation would prioritize equality. Its core would be the one true God at the heart of us all, and exist in the center of the one group circle of free equals, the foundation would belong to none and all equally. The role of all including individuals in positions of responsibility would be one of public service, to represent and serve the one group circle of free equals. Responsibilities surrounding the foundation would be shared equally and freely among all as much as possible, and when it is necessary to distribute responsibility unequally, the greatest responsibilities would be entrusted to those who best exemplify oneness and equality. Decision-making processes that concern the whole group would be open and accessible to all equally, and the decisions would be made ideally by group consensus. All relationships would be between sovereign free equals, participation in unified action would be completely voluntary.
Thirdly, to serve as a source of pure, unconditional unity, peace, and equality among all, including those standing on different sides of issues, the foundation would remain neutral, impartial, nonpartisan, and independent.
Fourthly, to unite, resonate with, and have meaning for all equally, the foundation would use universal symbols. The ideal symbols would be discovered by converging on the essential choices uniting and at the heart of all (for example, for an Earth foundation for unity, the name “United Earth” and displayed logo concept would be ideal).
Fifthly, to unite and serve all effectively, the foundation would promote uniting, merging, combining, blending, joining, synthesizing, syncretizing, integrating, harmonizing, equalizing, neutralizing, and balancing the best parts of all, working towards common, middle ground, and reaching agreements through compromise and mutual concessions.
Finally, to inspire cocreation among all, the foundation would keep its status forever open to improvement through the contributions of all.
A United Earth establishment would serve as such a unifying foundation. Let's all unite as one United Earth."
United Earth Declaration on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/United.Earth.Declaration/
United Earth Foundation on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/United-Earth-Foundation-136380493575468/
The videos and text are from my site: https://sites.google.com/site/jmaf6556/united-earth
In oneness,
Justin
Jayke
26th March 2018, 07:36
The path to hell begins with good intentions! It’s a nice idea jmaf, but historically, any talk of oneness and unity between all nations quickly descends into communism, fascism and globalism in practice. Just look at those countries with ‘United’ in their names again.
European Union
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United Nations
United States (The Union)
Talk about a list of countries at the very epicentre of ‘the new world order’.
Le Cercle (https://isgp-studies.com/le-cercle-pinay#intro) has been tried in a government structure, it devolved into the failing European Union, run by unelected, tyrannical beurocrats.
The Round Table was tried in the UK, before world war 1 and it just spawned the Pilgrim society (https://isgp-studies.com/pilgrims-society-us-uk#round-table-group-milner) and various other think tanks and secret societies, which acted as the hidden hand behind both world wars.
These groups tend to start with good intentions but quickly descend into ‘assimilate into our oneness or die’, it’s all very Borg like from Star Trek and becomes very cultish.
Personally, I feel Jacob Boehm had a more nuanced philosophy. A philosophy that understands their is one unifying spirit that permeates and connects all life, but that spirit manifests into form in an infinite abundance of unique and different ways. Rather than oneness and equality being the overriding principles that determine acceptance into a group then—Respect of each other’s unique attributes and a celebration of each other’s differences is admired and encouraged.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/ldjb/ldjb03.htm
Look at the flowers of the field. Each one has its own particular attributes, nevertheless they do not wrangle and fight with each other. They do not quarrel about the possession of sunshine and rain, or dispute about their colours, odour, and taste. Each one grows according to its nature. Thus it is with the children of God. Each one has his own gifts and attributes, but they all spring from one Spirit. They enjoy their gifts, and praise the wisdom of Him from whom they originated. Why should they dispute about the qualities of Him whose attributes are manifest in themselves?
"We have all only one single order to which we belong, and the only rule of that order is to do the will of God, that is to say, to keep still and serve as instruments through which God may do His will. Whatever God sows and makes manifest in us, we give it back to Him as His own fruit. The kingdom of heaven is not based upon our opinions and authorised beliefs, but roots in its own divine power. Our main object ought to be to have the divine power within ourselves. If we possess that, all scientific pursuit will be a mere play of the intellectual faculties with which to amuse ourselves; for the true science is the revelation of the wisdom of God within our own mind. God manifests His wisdom through His children as the earth manifests her powers through the production of various flowers and fruits. Therefore let each one be glad of his own gifts and enjoy those of the others. Why should all be alike? Who condemns the birds of the forest because they do not all sing the same tune; but each praises its Creator in its own way? Nevertheless, the power which enables them to sing originates in all from only one source."
It’s only a slight shift in mindset and perspective, but a shift that leads away from the obedience cult nature of communism and into a system based more on meritocracy and a genuine appreciation of the infinite diversity of life. But that is just my personal preference on the ‘oneness’ issue. I do wish you luck with the spreading of peace, love and happiness aspect of your endeavour. :highfive:
jmaf6556
26th March 2018, 08:57
Thanks Jayke for your reply. I too am talking about a oneness based on God and spirit, therefore freedom is essential, as I state in the texts, there is no coercion. I agree that true unity is a challenging goal, in fact it's the state of God, who is oneness, as your quote mentions. The vision I've offered consists of balancing the political left and right, so as to avoid the radical outcomes, e.g. fascism, that you mention, I'm talking about a state based upon the middle way philosophy, centrism, moderatism, syncretism, bipartisanship, etc. There's no danger here, it's the spiritual-philosophical truth regarding socio-politico-economics :). I explain more in the other parts of my site.
You mention that a round table structure was tried and failed, I'd be interested in seeing more information about this, I haven't found any. I suggest a structure whose essence, center, and core is the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all, I haven't heard of this being tried and have a hard time imagining that it would fail.
uzn
26th March 2018, 09:38
God and oneness, that has not worked out so well in the past. By the way, which God are you talking about? The psychopathic, sadistic and loving one from the bible, an Indian one ,or Allah, or one out of the many ancient ones?
jmaf6556
26th March 2018, 09:53
I explain all of my spiritual beliefs on my site, especially on this page: https://sites.google.com/site/jmaf6556/purpose-of-life
I'm not talking about the Abrahamic God, I'm talking about the universal spirit, the essence of all things. The description of God in the texts above as "the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all" is a good one.
God and oneness are essential to the most stable institutions in the world, such as the United States government, the UN, etc., consider those US quotes I've listed. They're not perfect, but nothing is, and things could be a lot worse, as they are in other parts of the world. A benevolent God and freedom-based oneness are certainly preferable to division and war.
Jayke
26th March 2018, 10:30
There’s a strange dichotomy between monotheistic traditions and polytheistic traditions. Monotheistic traditions tend to sow seeds of division and disharmony because no one can agree on who the one true god, or one true spirit really is. Polytheism promotes greater acceptance of different gods because there doesn’t have to be one Uber-god to rule them all, people don’t have to fight over which god is best.
I get what you’re saying though jmaf, Confucius talked about an age of universality where harmony prevailed.
"When the Great Tao prevailed the whole world was one community. Men of talent and virtue were chosen to lead the people, their words were sincere and they cultivated harmony...this was the age of universality" — Confucius.
The only culture I’ve found that fits that description would be the Vedic Vedanta that spread out from Aratta (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImPSfcnlCiY), spreading the knowledge of culture and civilisation after the great flood.
Trying to create a system of equality while unscrupulous people are in positions of power, just makes those egalitarian systems targets for subversion. I doubt any egalitarian system will be successful until a meritocracy is first established in the wider society, where “men of virtue are chosen to lead the people”. But leaders and followers still isn’t a round table situation, it’s getting more into Aristotle’s version of aristocracy ‘where the noblest people rule with limited government, only intervening where and when necessary’. Much work needs to be done before society can agree on what nobility really means though so this idealistic utopia might not come into fruition for several more centuries just yet imo.
Justplain
26th March 2018, 13:56
I would suggest that a future society where people live in small independent groups is a society where some sort of meritocracy could survive and possibly thrive. No need for big overseeing government or snoop state. This could be achieved with technical advancements that permit independence, such as free energy and 3D printers, as well as we dont go down the transhumanist road.
Otherwise, i am totally against any global goverment that would likely cater to wealth driven corporate fascist psychopaths.
WhiteLove
26th March 2018, 19:57
I have been in direct contact with who I believe is God and when I asked God what is the way that leads to this place we all desire and know is our true home, God replied in this way: "Just love unconditionally".
The hallmark of human ascension is subjective peace, which is a highly dense vibrational state but compared to our current state is heaven. In this state of being we have overcome limitations such as for instance the need to communicate with words. In this state of being we have an incredible depth of emotion, we are who we really are and we meet our true soul mate, who is the exact polar opposite to your real being.
But to your amazement, at the peak of this beauty and overwhelming sense of love, something will take place that will remove the awareness of the peak. In other words, think of the bliss of finding your true soul mate and all the beauty of that reality as merely the first level of peace. That is like a corn of sand in a desert.
When we talk about peace here on earth it is a highly compressed version of subjective peace, it is a fraction of a corn of sand in a desert. That is our struggle here on earth currently. There are likely civilizations out there that are expanding their level of peace into several miles of sand. Do you get it, we are talking about a state of being and a level of intelligence that we cannot even imagine and that we are unaware of.
Valerie Villars
26th March 2018, 23:10
Thank you Justin. I like your intention.
White Love, I, too was in direct contact. Exquisite. We all have to start somewhere.
jmaf6556
27th March 2018, 05:26
In a truly advanced, free society ultimately we all are led by and follow our own intuition, i.e. the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all, leaders are public servants, there are no rulers or coercion. In this conception of God by definition there's only one which is the one true example and source of perfect and infinite oneness itself, it's an infinite ideal that transcends any finite form, we can't match it and can only do our best to live up to it, so there'd be no multiple Gods to fight about. :)
I agree that the term God isn't perfect, but I've yet to think of a more appropriate, all-encompassing term, other terms like "source" don't seem to work as well.
I'd love to exist in such an expanded, peaceful state. I've had some experiences of these planes and they were truly magical and fantasy-like, like a dream come true.
Jayke
27th March 2018, 08:02
Well I hate to be the one to burst the bliss bubble...but is there any examples in the historical record where such a society has ever existed or flourished? If not why not? Even the masters of Tibet followed a hierarchical structure of teacher/student.
What you’re promoting would be considered anarchy, in its non-stigmatised form of just meaning free-spirited leaderlessness. But there’s a reason a stigma is associated with anarchy and I’m pretty sure it’s because there aren’t many examples of where it actually works to create a cohesive society. In small esoteric groups it can work i.e. the Nazarenes or the shivaites chose that lifestyle, but usually a leader tends to emerge regardless of the initial intent.
Is anarchy a system of governance that could unite an entire planet? Despite any idealistic notions of how that might turn out, there’s no doubt in my mind that the end result would be closer to a nightmare than a dream come true.
jmaf6556
27th March 2018, 08:56
I'm not sure about Earth's past, what I'm imagining is a futuristic society, how higher-dimensional civilizations aligned with God/spirit function. There can still be organization, structure, and leadership with minimal coercion, the uniting power would be God/spirit which is perfect peace and infinite love, rather than coercion. I do believe in hierarchy and leadership, what's most aligned with God/spirit is highest, and what's least aligned is lowest. I just also suggest that the state of God/spirit is one of freedom, it seems like many people on this forum wouldn't have it any other way, and would rebel against a forced unity, as they rebel against a NWO. Ultimately we'd all be free to follow our intuition, the source of which I'm calling the one true infallible all-pervasive and almighty God/spirit at the heart of us all, individual, fallible leaders would be entrusted with public service duties only to the extent that they're aligned with God/spirit/the universal will, the ultimate example and source of truth. By aligning society with God/spirit and universal spiritual laws we'll flourish. Practically speaking for now until humans and human leaders are more God-aligned we may need a substantial amount of laws and coercion, but we can still envision the ideal and shoot for it in the long run.
Jayke
27th March 2018, 09:18
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”
Well you wouldn’t be the first person to try and imagine a futuristic utopia. As a responsible founder of such a society though, it might be wise to review the lessons of history, to figure out how and why all those who came before you—who shared a similar vision—failed in their ability to bring such utopia into fruition. And more importantly, the drawbacks and disasters that occurred as a result of letting idealism blind us to the practical complexities of global governance.
jmaf6556
27th March 2018, 11:09
It's true that I haven't done an in depth analysis of history and politics, though I do have some understanding which I share on my site, such as the value of integrating left wing and right wing politics, just as successful modern day societies integrate both socialist and capitalist qualities. The first piece I shared in the original post is meant to be a declaration of values to help create oneness on Earth on a spiritual level, and the second is an explanation of some of the values necessary to create a stable unifying foundation capable of holding together an alliance, they're not meant to be a complete plan for world governance, that's not my ambition quite yet. :)
Jayke
27th March 2018, 12:36
It's good to have an optimistic outlook for society. But as someone who has studied different organisational systems throughout history, the seeds your planting now, have been planted before, and once those seedlings are subjected to the ruthless dynamics of the natural order, the resulting plant never looks as majestic as the intended vision imagined it to be.
I don't mean to discourage you in anyway, the values you're promoting are worthy values for a society to get behind, and your heart is obviously in the right place. I'm just highlighting some of the dangers that people who've trodden this path before you have continually stumbled over, time and time again. My concern is that the values you've presented so far don't have enough dynamism to deal with all the variables and injustices that can occur as a united earth is brought into fruition.
For a united earth to occur, the value system has to be incredibly complex and sophisticated, which is why humans haven't gotten it right since recorded history began..
From the small acorn grows the mighty oak though so keep drilling down into the complexity of it and adapting the nuances of value structures as you go. I'm sure us humans will learn to unite peacefully eventually.
Alanantic
27th March 2018, 17:14
"Three things cannot long be hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth." -- Buddha
amor
28th March 2018, 01:20
I beg to differ with Buddha, because of those who consistently kill to hide the truth.
wnlight
28th March 2018, 04:00
I think that jmaf6556's ideals would more likely be successful if humanity were more educated, more loving but not believing all that is said by their chosen leaders. Perhaps more ascended, if that will ever be possible. Past failures, i believe, have been due to those human qualities being lacking.
jmaf6556
28th March 2018, 12:03
I'm glad to hear that you've studied this subject in depth, Jayke, perhaps we'll have some interesting discussions.
One thing I've noticed is that our modern societies, governments, and alliances don't seem to be founded upon sound spiritual understandings, i.e. the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of and uniting us all. With such a sound foundation for unity, the one true example and source of perfect and infinite oneness itself, we'd flourish a lot more, without it we're limited. This type of spiritual foundation is now used in various intentional community-related settings that are becoming more widespread these days and the results seem wonderful.
If we get the underlying spiritual understanding and foundation right, everything else that follows will be much easier.
Jayke
29th March 2018, 13:08
The problem monotheistic religions or ‘oneness’, spiritual, belief-based, communities have faced in the past, is how do you stop different groups within that one-true-god community from branching off and forming different sects? Historically there’s always been at least 4 different interpretations of the ‘one true god’ that people gravitate towards, which then end up as warring factions—where people who say they believe in the same god—end up trying to subjugate, kill or convert the other factions.
This has been the case since at least the Jewish wars in Roman times, and the renaissance philosophers identified these 4 key character groups as the four humours (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_temperaments). Even in today’s academic circles these 4 temperaments cause the backdrop to different factions within the globalist Deep State, as William Russell Mead of Yale university (i.e. skull and bones secret society), discusses in his book Special Providence (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0415935369/?coliid=I2W2K4E8C7QEY1&colid=UMIYAN5Q7POE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it).
The druids identified these 4 qualities and labelled them the 4 elements. Although the druids did add a 5th element, Nwyvre (https://blogofcharacters.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/nwyvre/), which was contained in all the other elements and in which they saw an image of the universal structure of matter and a symbol of God.
I’ve bolded that last phrase because it contains a nugget of insight that most people in the oneness communities tend to overlook, which is that the aether, the source, god, the infinite oneness, etc carries within it the seeds, patterns and blueprints of all creation. Which means the source field of all life contains its own implicit order—the vedas called it Rta (https://www.quora.com/What-is-Rta-in-the-Vedas)—the universal order within nature. The goal of Tibetan Buddhism is to gain the Dharmakaya body so that you can become one with this implicit order.
Joseph Farrel calls it the topological metaphor, an esoteric physics that brings all creation into existence. Now if you figure out how that universal order is structured and build a ‘oneness community’ around that same hierarchical structure, then you might just have the beginnings of a sound underlying spiritual system that can go beyond the warring factions and help unite the elements into a cohesive, synergistic framework.
From what I’ve seen of these alternative communities so far, Michael Tellingers UBUNTU Project, and the notion of contributionism, seems to be most closely aligned to that so far, it’ll be interesting to see if any of his ‘one small town’ initiatives are ever able to gain a foothold in society.
https://ubuntufest.org/the-ubuntu-movement/
Foxie Loxie
29th March 2018, 13:23
I think we are seeing in our present time that even "well educated" people are still capable of doing truly evil things. :facepalm: Perhaps if we all could recognize that we are primarily Eternal Beings, it might help.
"oneness community" That would be a great thing if it were possible, but I think we can all see from "family" situations, it doesn't even happen there! I guess UBUNTU Project would seem the closest to that ideal, but it will be interesting to see how things play out in S.A. now.:confused:
Bubu
30th March 2018, 02:36
It takes time to learn. If sufficient number of people realize that cooperation not competition; love not hate is the way to bliss, then we are headed into that path. No single person UBUNTU, BUDDHA; JACKIE FRESCO; CHRIST ETC can led humanity to bliss its the realization by sufficient numbers of people in the collective that will do that. therefore change starts with me and you. We will know that sufficient numbers is reached because the slightest nudge (UBUNTU etc) will make people rallying to that direction. Movements like UBUNTU and the OP's are necessary to encourage people to that direction but as usual a discerning mind is required so as not to fall into the fakes
jmaf6556
30th March 2018, 08:14
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts.
Great ideas, Jayke.
Since the one true all-pervasive and almighty God at the heart of us all is by definition perfect peace, freedom, and all-inclusiveness, anyone talking about a God that doesn't have these qualities is clearly in error. Again to clarify, the one true God is an infinite, transcendent ideal that's not possible for finite beings to match, we can only do our best to live up to it.
Actually I've done a lot of work on the elements and how they relate to the structure of the universe, the natural order of society, and more. The explanations are in the "The Spiritual Planes/Bodies and Chakras, Heaven and Hell", "The Elements and Theory of Evolution", and "The Human Body" sections on the Spiritual Healing page on my site, the information is definitive and much of it is original, you'd enjoy it:
https://sites.google.com/site/jmaf6556/spiritual-healing
I agree that aether, which I call spirit, is important to include in discussions of the elements.
Indeed, war is a result of a low state of consciousness corresponding to the lower spiritual planes/bodies, chakras, elements, regions of the body, etc., while oneness is a result of a high state of consciousness corresponding to the higher spiritual planes/bodies, chakras, elements, regions of the body, etc.
Foxie Loxie
30th March 2018, 14:15
What makes sense to me, at this point in time, is that we are ALL a part of The One & if that could be recognized, why would we want to harm another of our "parts"? :flower:
pyrangello
30th March 2018, 18:20
I think for those that believe in a higher power ( this being good Friday) and aligning yourself as a spiritual being on this earth with a creator and the angels and saints, there is a peacefulness in that relationship. I can tell you of so many miracles or gifts from above by having a belief system called faith! My father always said when you pray , you can't wish it to happen or want it to happen , you have to believe it will happen. A test to your faith so to speak.
A few years ago my neighbors 2 year old little girl's eye tear duct wasn't working and she was scheduled for surgery on her eye, they had been seeing a doctor for months. I always carry with me relic badges of the deceased capuchin priest called Father Solanus here in detroit who is in the last stages here in the US to become the first American priest to become a saint. My father met Fr. Solanus as a little kid. So I gave my neighbor a father Solanus Badge and told him to put this in his daughters bed and to ask for healing. I prayed as well for the week. That started on a sunday night, by Thursday my neighbors daughters eye was all better and they canceled the surgery :) . Faith!
A few years back my very good friend from way back in high school became a pastor and started an orphanage just across the Mexican /Texas border. He built this based on donations and volunteers thru the years. I saw my friend the pastor at a funeral a few years ago. He was telling me of the executions in Mexico between the drug families ect. ect. He said one of the families had put out a contract on him being an American and how could he have acquired all this in Mexico building an orphanage without some inside help of the govnt. It truly has been a 25 year mission of donations and love. Anyways the pastor told me for a while he was carrying a pistol for his protection and then one day he said to god, if its my time then so be it and stopped carrying that pistol. During the same time my friend the pastor was caring for an elderly woman who was dying of cancer in mexico, praying with her and taking her meals everyday. When she passed my friend the pastor attended the elderly woman's funeral and unknown to him the son of the elderly woman was the person that put out the contract on him. It was dissolved that day :) Faith!
Another very good friend of mine went in for heart surgery, she was a trauma nurse herself, tough Kentucky gal. She was terrified of going in for surgery and thought she wasn't going to make it thru the surgery. I told her I would pray and pray for her and ask all of the angels and saints around me to guide her thru this. She told me when she woke up that there were 2 people/spirit angels in her room each and everyday, nobody else could see them and they stayed there everyday until she finally was better, my friend said one of those angelic beings had a connection to me , but she felt so much comfort from them being there , she wasn't afraid of leaving this earth anymore. And yes she is doing great to this day :) . Faith !
And what about John the Baptist , the apostle who was boiled in oil and lived to another day. Faith!
I have so many stories of faith that have been all around me. So when you talk of a united earth, I would say there are many souls here on earth NOW that are united with a belief system of when you just pray, you are patching into a grid system of spiritual energy from so many from around the world without even knowing those people by name. All you have to do is sit down, pray and believe. :) I would say that it already exists on this day of good Friday !
Michi
30th March 2018, 20:42
The problem monotheistic religions or ‘oneness’, spiritual, belief-based, communities have faced in the past, is how do you stop different groups within that one-true-god community from branching off and forming different sects? Historically there’s always been at least 4 different interpretations of the ‘one true god’ that people gravitate towards, which then end up as warring factions—where people who say they believe in the same god—end up trying to subjugate, kill or convert the other factions.
While a firm belief to a higher power may have "healed" a lot of things there is however a (perhaps implanted) "fault" in man.
In essence each man is "the god" and once he would assume full responsibility as creator, and knowing each one is a "god" creator too, he would nolonger look for excuses or point a finger to others.
Instead he would assume the viewpoint of each fellow man and support him in his constructive endeavours, like if it would be his own effort.
This is what I would call a "United Earth".
Part of this would be clearing out ones past from trauma and wrong decisions (and not limited to this life). This would be essential.
Jayke
31st March 2018, 09:27
What makes sense to me, at this point in time, is that we are ALL a part of The One & if that could be recognized, why would we want to harm another of our "parts"? :flower:
You know Foxie, you said something on the Healers thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12887-Healers--You-re-needed-please-&p=1216315&viewfull=1#post1216315) that I thought was so succinct and full of wisdom that I had to copy it for my notes and paste it into my quotes folder.
”Good or Parasitic".....that does make more sense. Or is it that we must inhabit all forms of "being" so we will understand the totality of all mindsets?”
And in that vein of thought, if we consider Michael Tellingers notion of Contributionism as a kind of hybrid between democracy, socialism, capitalism etc where the best of each system is combined together to create abundance for the whole, then I was reading an article about China recently by Jeff J Brown (who lives in China and writes about its emerging political landscape without the usual Western bias you find in the anglosphere). He notes in the article West attack’s Chinas Social Credit system (http://chinarising.puntopress.com/2018/03/24/west-attacks-chinas-social-credit-system-to-deflect-from-its-fascist-panopticon-china-rising-radio-sinoland-180325/), how China are trialling a social credit system based on transparency and meritocracy, where the more honest and trustworthy your social credit score is, the more access you gain to the systems benefits.
And although China’s social credit system could very well be an Orwellian nightmare in the making, it could also be the first major civilisation to ‘inhabit all forms of being and integrate the totality of all mindsets’, where democracy, communism, meritocracy, socialism, all kind of work synergistically together for the benefit of all. It might be the case that we see the first contributionist society emerging in China. The catalyst for a United earth could well emerge from the East imo.
Desire
1st April 2018, 02:26
Can't agree with you at this critical time in world history.
Jayke
1st April 2018, 08:26
Can't agree with you at this critical time in world history.
Feel free to elaborate and share your worries, fears, thoughts, frustrations on who or what you specifically disagree with? And what in its place do you feel has better potential for moving humanity towards a United Earth? It’s difficult to agree on anything until there’s first an open dielectic of discussion.
Desire
1st April 2018, 12:04
Hi Jayke and others,
I was disagreeing with Jmaf. I should have been clearer.
Trying to unite the world at this time would only help support the NWO effort of their one world order that will enslave the human race and promote the elite. This is a dangerous time and the cabals' ability to control such a movement is too risky. Too many good people, not yet awakened , could be deceived to follow the false Piper.
Jayke
1st April 2018, 14:58
Hi Jayke and others,
I was disagreeing with Jmaf. I should have been clearer.
Trying to unite the world at this time would only help support the NWO effort of their one world order that will enslave the human race and promote the elite. This is a dangerous time and the cabals' ability to control such a movement is too risky. Too many good people, not yet awakened , could be deceived to follow the false Piper.
As has been the case since at least the 1700’s.
I don’t know how many people know the story of Adam Weishaupt (founder of the Bavarian Illuminati), but his initial idea was similar to jmaf’s noble intentions. He wanted to create an enlightened, egalitarian, communist utopia where everyone was considered equal. The problem they saw to this utopia was the institutions of aristocracy that were holding the class system in place. In order for egalitarian communism to be accepted globally, all institutions and authority had to be destroyed, all hierarchies levelled. Weishaupt couldn’t get funding from the Nobles for his endeavour so he turned to the Rothschilds and the Sabbatean-Frankist Zionists (i.e. Khazarian krypto-jews) who were more than happy to fund his project—since their goals of bringing a satanic, death and sex cult was founded on the same egalitarian, communist principles (i.e. levelling of the hierarchies and throwing away the ritual observances and traditions within Judaism).
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Whenever there is a levelling of the hierarchies to create an egalitarian social structure, the antichrist emerges as people become blinded by idealism. Hierarchy within a social structure is necessary to keep the balances and checks in place.
Desire
1st April 2018, 21:30
Thanks for that info Jayke,
I didn't know the story of Adam Weishaupt but as you can imagine I am not surprised. There will be many false flags ahead . It is a time to be very thoughtful and careful of the powerful evil that wants to own us all.
jmaf6556
2nd April 2018, 06:20
Well, I still believe in oneness/unity, as in cooperating together for the benefit of all, as well as equality, freedom, and the rest, that's all I'm really advocating. I do believe in social order/hierarchy, and I also believe that what I'm calling God which is at the top of the spiritual hierarchy practices oneness, equality, freedom, etc.. In other words, as Jayke suggested, we do need unity, i.e. social order, structure, and cohesiveness, and nobles to prevent the NWO, and we also need the social order to be aligned with source and pure, this is why I wrote what I did. I'm not an anarchist, nor am I supporting the NWO, the NWO is not equality and freedom based, oppression would be a better word to describe it than the equality and freedom based oneness I support.
To clarify again, the first post is just a statement of values conducive to unity, i.e. harmony, and the second is just a statement of qualities necessary to unite the disparate unity and harmony based groups as an effective, powerful alliance. My purpose is to benefit, not destroy, our social systems and structures.
Jayke
2nd April 2018, 10:02
My apologies if our criticisms have seemed unfavourably harsh, it’s not that what you’re advocating isn’t worthy of consideration, it’s just that in the hindsight of history it’s proven to be easily corruptible. I mean you mention King Arthur and the knights of the round table as a model for unity but surely you read to the end of that story? Where Lancelot has an affair with Guinevere, Mordred kills his father Arthur and Camelot falls into disrepute and decay. They try telling us in those books that the circle of equality doesn’t work yet people see the round table, get dazzled by idealism and forget to read to the end of the story.
The problem with everyone being equal is that, psychologically speaking, the group identity of ‘oneness’ becomes more important than each members unique and individual identity, and when that happens people begin to feel invisible or shielded by the group. As the Greeks warned in their tale of the Rings of Gyges:
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges)
Glaucon asks whether any man can be so virtuous that he could resist the temptation of being able to perform any act without being known or discovered. Glaucon suggests that morality is only a social construction, the source of which is the desire to maintain one's reputation for virtue and justice. Hence, if that sanction were removed, one's moral character would evaporate...
...Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men.
Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust.
I did read your website though and you’ve got a lot of excellent content, very comprehensively put together, I commend you on that. I can tell you’ve dedicated a lot of thought and energy into the project :star: I’d just recommend that you throw the ideal of everyone stood around in a circle, holding hands, away for now, and figure out how the structure of the content of your website, can be infused into a structure for society, because the circle as an ideal to unite humanity has never worked out too well in the past.
The Daiosts do have a teaching that states ‘Tian Ren He Yi,’ (‘All Heavenly People are in Harmony as one’). But the daiosts also have systems of objective measurement in place to determine whose acting on behalf of heaven? what harmony truly looks like? and what really constitutes oneness? And it’s those objective systems of measure that we lack in the modern world. We had them in the past, in the golden age that Confucius spoke of, but the tyrants of the Kali Yuga destroyed that knowledge as it was the only way they could rise to power.
Desire
2nd April 2018, 12:37
Jmaf, as the saying goes " the path is full of good intentions" Just tread cautiously for evil is always ready to infiltrate good.
Foxie Loxie
2nd April 2018, 13:42
I've only been at this a little over 2 years, but the Oneness Thing seems to require a Big Shift in normal human thinking. If each of us sees him or herself as simply a "piece" of The One, with no hierarchy involved, that puts a whole new perspective on Harmony. :Angel:
It's true, there have been many attempts down through history to form harmonious groups that live together for mutual benefit, but usually there seems to have been a "leader" involved, so we have to assume that did not result in true Oneness! Being trained from childhood that the "norm" is for there to BE a hierarchy of some kind does not lend it self to true Oneness.
As humans, our view is so restricted until we open ourselves up to the fact that there ARE other beings & other dimensions of which we have not been aware. The works of David Icke & Robert Stanley have helped me in that regard. As long as the human race in general remains blinded to who we truly are, Eternal Beings, there seems not to be much hope for living together in harmony. We continue to leave ourselves open to manipulation in many forms when we stay within the Hierarchical Construct.
These are my conclusions up to this point in time! :flower:
petra
2nd April 2018, 14:45
I think that jmaf6556's ideals would more likely be successful if humanity were more educated, more loving but not believing all that is said by their chosen leaders. Perhaps more ascended, if that will ever be possible. Past failures, i believe, have been due to those human qualities being lacking.
This is most of the problem right here, I really think so. You can say "more ascended" or "less stupid" but it boils down to the same thing. Education is important of course, but there's psychological stuff here too.
Some people are just not happy unless other's are unhappy. Here's the example I keep quoting and I can't even remember where I got this - I'm paraphrasing;
Jane likes red, and dislikes orange. Bob likes blue, and dislikes yellow.
Jane dislikes Bob.
Jane paints her house yellow.
The reason why is because Bob's unhappiness makes her happier than any color her house could possibly be.
petra
2nd April 2018, 14:55
Jmaf, as the saying goes " the path is full of good intentions" Just tread cautiously for evil is always ready to infiltrate good.
I like how you bleeped the evil out of the quotation ;-)
Mine says "Tread cautiously, but carry a big stick"
jmaf6556
4th April 2018, 10:34
Thanks everyone for your comments.
Sovereignty is essential to oneness as I understand it. This is where the values of equality and freedom which I mention in the original post comes in. A state of inequality and oppression isn't one of oneness.
I do still think the circle of free equals is the ideal state. Equality is a universal, fundamental value, it's hard to argue for its opposite, inequality. So is freedom, it's opposite, coercion, while perhaps necessary in emergency situations and in our chaotic world, isn't ideal.
Positions of greater and lesser responsibility can always exist, as I mention in the original post. Equality just means that those with greater responsibilities are public servants, rather than rulers. It's similar to how our US presidents ultimately consider themselves "fellow Americans/citizens" of the people, and just temporary holders of a public office while they're president, that's how it's supposed to be.
So if you want to make a hierarchical structure different from the circle of free equals, I'd say you'd put the state of oneness, equality, freedom, etc. at the top, and lower levels would be organized according to how far they are from oneness, equality, freedom, etc.
Again, for now, I'm mainly focusing on fundamental values, not on redesigning our governments from scratch. :)
As for what harmony looks like, I believe it looks like what I've described, a state of oneness, truth, equality, freedom, devotion, etc. Paradoxically, the state of oneness and equality is the highest. Right now I'm not sure how you'd objectively measure who's closest to God, oneness, and Truth, voting is one method that helps determine whom most agree with. And again, to a large extent people will vote for those who best practice the Golden Rule, treating others as yourself, which implies oneness, equality, and freedom.
I wasn't aware of the end of the story of King Arthur. I'd have to go more in depth into it which I haven't done to comment more. The mishaps could have been in spite of, rather than a result of, the Round Table.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, I agree. Let's follow God's greater plan rather than trying to create our own.
Great conclusions, Foxie.
greybeard
4th April 2018, 11:34
The bottom line is "A rising tide lifts all boats"
A raising of consciousness is going on and without this the status quo would remain.
Major change will be spontaneous when the human consciousness has reached the necessary level.
Each time enlightenment "Self realization occurs" the Universe celebrates and the human consciousness is raised.
Chris
Jayke
4th April 2018, 20:29
Right now I'm not sure how you'd objectively measure who's closest to God, oneness, and Truth, voting is one method that helps determine whom most agree with. And again, to a large extent people will vote for those who best practice the Golden Rule, treating others as yourself, which implies oneness, equality, and freedom.
Bill Bodri — ‘Measuring Meditation’ (http://www.meditationexpert.com/measuringmeditation.html) teaches the Skhanda system for identifying a persons inner state of ‘oneness’ attainment. Honestly, in my opinion, if everyone in the world mastered the 5 skhandas and knew how to cultivate and purify them, then the world be a realm of pure bliss, magic, reverence and beauty. But knowing how much discipline it requires to develop this true attainment of becoming one with the dao, I don’t hold out much hope of a unified planetary awakening occurring for at least another several thousand years just yet (if such a thing is even possible).
http://www.meditationexpert.com/measuringmeditation.html
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Basically, this is the Bible for guiding a person's spiritual growth because it even has case studies of ordinary "kundalini practitoners" at the most rudimentary stages of the path. It also has case studies of advanced adepts, and enlightened sages and the gong-fu (kung-fu) they had to cultivate, or chose to cultivate before and after their enlightenment....
Mark
4th April 2018, 21:30
It is absolutely amazing, but to be expected, how many people absolutely do not want any such thing.
What it would entail to arrive at such an outcome in reality would cause many of the people in this Forum's heads to explode.
This is not a diss, of course. Merely a statement of manifest potential.
People will fight and die not to have it and believe themselves right till the end.
We do not all, as a human family, share the same inner orientations and so do not truly believe in the same outer goals.
greybeard
7th April 2018, 20:29
It is absolutely amazing, but to be expected, how many people absolutely do not want any such thing.
What it would entail to arrive at such an outcome in reality would cause many of the people in this Forum's heads to explode.
This is not a diss, of course. Merely a statement of manifest potential.
People will fight and die not to have it and believe themselves right till the end.
We do not all, as a human family, share the same inner orientations and so do not truly believe in the same outer goals.
Unfortunately you are correct Rahkty.
The human ego is still very much in control.
The ego needs an enemy, some one out there to blame.
Its their fault for everything. They are the culprit.
Life would be grand without them.
People talk of Oneness without realizing the full implication or meaning of this one word.
Since ancient times mystics have talked of One without a second.
This is a very accurate description of one ness.
On Self realization the Self can say "I am the totality, all of it"
There is no individual left to claim I am enlightened.
What is left is one consciousness--which is all there is in the first place
We, plural, are restricted condensed consciousness---the One seemed to become the many without diminishing itself.
Not that many want to let go of being different from others.
Chris
jmaf6556
8th April 2018, 04:20
Thanks everyone for your input, I agree with most of it.
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