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Did You See Them
25th April 2018, 08:30
Samsung’s Swedish site recently revealed a new program that offers hypnosis so that you can erase your memories and re watch your favourite shows for the first time. The program is called Unspoil Me and it’s comprised of 23 minutes of swirling patterns, mesmerizing music and a hypnotherapist directing your thoughts and attention in order to erase your memory.

Some of the terms and conditions stated on the website that must be consented to before this session begins include the following:

“Before starting the experience I guarantee that I’m over 18 years old, fully mentally healthy and not suffering from any neurological problems or epilepsy. If not, I guarantee that I will contact a doctor before I take part of the experience. If I suffer from abnormally low blood pressure, I will also consult with a doctor before taking part of the experience.”

“I am aware that the experience (self hypnosis) could have real effects and I am prepared to forget the whole, or parts of my favourite TV series.”

“I ensure my sole purpose of using Unspoil Me is for its intended purpose, and I will therefore only think about a film clip or a tv-series which I will have the possibility to forget.”

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/04/no_author/why-im-concerned-about-samsung-hypnotizing-people-erasing-their-memory/

For those brave enough ( anyone want to try it and report back ) here is the link.

http://www.samsung.com/se/unspoilme/eng/# (click the read more - bottom right on the loading page )


Is this for real ?
If so - scary times we live in !!

Tam
25th April 2018, 13:29
This HAS to be a joke...

Rhah
25th April 2018, 13:53
This just cannot be real...

Also; note the left 'hypnotist' wearing and upside down cross pendant as well as a ring that looks to have the Leviathan (Satan's) cross on it. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the symbol of the right guy's pendant, perhaps someone else can enlighten us about that. (High res image: http://www.internationalhypnotistsguild.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ulf_fredrik-duo.jpg)

DeDukshyn
26th April 2018, 00:52
Watching shows with a bit of weed and alcohol will do the same thing. Later you'll know whether you liked it or not, but you won't remember details! lol!

I am going to try this ... will let you know the results ... :)

Ok so I will have to try again, but really try to do this seriously this time. I will note that this seems a genuine hypnosis session, I have seen an entertainment hypnosis before, and the method for putting one under was very similar ... will report back soon.

The series I want to forget will be "Blood Drive" (awful show but I loved it, and was sad that it was cancelled before season 2 - re-watching season one (episode 1) as "new" again might be worth a try) ...


Update: Well apparently I need to sleep for the effect to take place fully, so I guess I won't have results until tomorrow ... bummer.

The hypnosis session was pretty generic and standard. I am not sure I can be hypnotized though - previous attempts with me have failed.

DeDukshyn
26th April 2018, 01:46
This HAS to be a joke...

Its just marketing.

Gemma13
26th April 2018, 02:14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5196153/Samsung-unveils-hypnosis-site-make-forget-TV-shows.html

Yeah but potential precursor marketing for "what" is a concern for me.  Hope not too many people innocently jump on this for fun making it trend significantly as future applications could be questionable and harmful.

Flash
26th April 2018, 02:38
Watching shows with a bit of weed and alcohol will do the same thing. Later you'll know whether you liked it or not, but you won't remember details! lol!

I am going to try this ... will let you know the results ... :)

Ok so I will have to try again, but really try to do this seriously this time. I will note that this seems a genuine hypnosis session, I have seen an entertainment hypnosis before, and the method for putting one under was very similar ... will report back soon.

The series I want to forget will be "Blood Drive" (awful show but I loved it, and was sad that it was cancelled before season 2 - re-watching season one (episode 1) as "new" again might be worth a try) ...


Update: Well apparently I need to sleep for the effect to take place fully, so I guess I won't have results until tomorrow ... bummer.

The hypnosis session was pretty generic and standard. I am not sure I can be hypnotized though - previous attempts with me have failed.

No need for weed or alcohol, you just need to wait and age. THis is then called Azheilmer. No need for hypnotism either then.

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Now enough joking, I read the commands and they seem to be hypnotism commands, they seem real.

However, a software for hypnotism - to forget a tv program or serie... well, tv is already hypnotysing its listeners. Now we will get hypnotised to forget the hypnotism...

and, there might be hidden commands in the software, mostly in the video through pictures runned at milliseconds time frame.

I would not touch such a thing with a 10 feet stick even.

KiwiElf
26th April 2018, 02:56
Watching shows with a bit of weed and alcohol will do the same thing. Later you'll know whether you liked it or not, but you won't remember details! lol!


Update: Well apparently I need to sleep for the effect to take place fully, so I guess I won't have results until tomorrow ... bummer.

The hypnosis session was pretty generic and standard. I am not sure I can be hypnotized though - previous attempts with me have failed.

Highly intelligent & analytical minds are difficult - if not impossible - to hypnotise (ask a hypnotist ...) ;)

Tam
26th April 2018, 04:55
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5196153/Samsung-unveils-hypnosis-site-make-forget-TV-shows.html

Yeah but potential precursor marketing for "what" is a concern for me.  Hope not too many people innocently jump on this for fun making it trend significantly as future applications could be questionable and harmful.

Googling the name of that program in Chrome shows that just that is happening.

Crazy.

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This just cannot be real...

Also; note the left 'hypnotist' wearing and upside down cross pendant as well as a ring that looks to have the Leviathan (Satan's) cross on it. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the symbol of the right guy's pendant, perhaps someone else can enlighten us about that. (High res image: http://www.internationalhypnotistsguild.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ulf_fredrik-duo.jpg)

I think the dude is just being edgy. I wouldn't overanalyze it.

I mean, the man is a member of the International Hypnotists Guild.

He oozes coolness. A real hit with women, I'm sure.

DeDukshyn
26th April 2018, 15:25
Watching shows with a bit of weed and alcohol will do the same thing. Later you'll know whether you liked it or not, but you won't remember details! lol!


Update: Well apparently I need to sleep for the effect to take place fully, so I guess I won't have results until tomorrow ... bummer.

The hypnosis session was pretty generic and standard. I am not sure I can be hypnotized though - previous attempts with me have failed.

Highly intelligent & analytical minds are difficult - if not impossible - to hypnotise (ask a hypnotist ...) ;)

Haha! Well it was supposed to take full effect after a sleep ... and I have to say I can still remember the series reasonably well. So I guess it didn't work. I was actually looking forward to this working ;) Oh well ...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5196153/Samsung-unveils-hypnosis-site-make-forget-TV-shows.html

Yeah but potential precursor marketing for "what" is a concern for me.  Hope not too many people innocently jump on this for fun making it trend significantly as future applications could be questionable and harmful.

Better to know you have an "opt-in" -- I suspect some TV and media already try to do this without your knowledge. That is far more scary than offering you a choice.

Gemma13
27th April 2018, 02:59
Yeah but it's the fact that there is an "opt-in" that worries me.  They've obviously looked into legal aspects enough to be able to float this out there which is why I'm also thinking about this from another angle re future legal loopholes and downplaying from those doing it non-consentually if and when they get exposed.

If it becomes socially acceptable for on-line hypnotic programs to exist a dilemma arises that softens the blow for covert nefarious programs:  "Oops we are very sorry we didn't provide a choice caveat but we will endeavour to do so from here on in and we gratefully accept the slap on the wrist."

And of course the false apology always comes after the damage is done. 

How many times have we seen this happen with Big Pharma not being transparent re their studies and subsequent side effects.  And  how many toxic chemical dumping companies have also made billions via lack of transparency at the expense of getting away with murder because it is socially acceptable for their products and practices to exist with minimal oversight and prosecution.

Let alone the enormous potential spin offs for using a sanctioned technology that sophisticated users can hack and embed programs into.  Imagine when there are thousands of these hypnotic "fun marketing" programs out there - let alone the volume of audience reach.

I find this new infant rollout very troubling as a trojan horse STAGE for all manner of malicious activity and hope we see ethical groups take a stance and start boycotting it swiftly.

Joe from the Carolinas
27th April 2018, 04:09
Looks like a viral marketing campaign to get people to buy Samsung.

Opting in allows them to install tracking cookies on your browser while also getting people to buy in to watching their content. If they are using google analytics (available for free) they can learn all kinds of stuff about your online habits once you opt in.

Pretty smart trick.. kind of like how back in the day there would be warnings about scary movies, remember? Did people stay away.. most flocked to the theaters.

Did You See Them
27th April 2018, 11:54
This just cannot be real...

Also; note the left 'hypnotist' wearing and upside down cross pendant as well as a ring that looks to have the Leviathan (Satan's) cross on it. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the symbol of the right guy's pendant, perhaps someone else can enlighten us about that. (High res image: http://www.internationalhypnotistsguild.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ulf_fredrik-duo.jpg)

I'd like to see the ring design and whats written on his hand as well !!
https://i.imgur.com/NNL0Gek.png

DeDukshyn
27th April 2018, 15:13
Looks like a viral marketing campaign to get people to buy Samsung.

Opting in allows them to install tracking cookies on your browser while also getting people to buy in to watching their content. If they are using google analytics (available for free) they can learn all kinds of stuff about your online habits once you opt in.

Pretty smart trick.. kind of like how back in the day there would be warnings about scary movies, remember? Did people stay away.. most flocked to the theaters.

Any tracking cookies (and most major sites plant these) would be installed right on the launch page or from sumsung's page - no need to actually watch the video for that to happen. But yes, this is all a marketing stunt, not much more.

Did You See Them
27th April 2018, 15:32
This is all a marketing stunt, not much more.

Marketing stunt maybe but it's also getting people used to the idea of having memories erased as being normal almost !

DeDukshyn
27th April 2018, 15:48
This is all a marketing stunt, not much more.

Marketing stunt maybe but it's also getting people used to the idea of having memories erased as being normal almost !

I don't think so. It'll be seen as the gimmick it is. It's not like any large amount of people are going to even take this seriously. People have always had the desire to erase bad memories, let's say of being violently raped, and hypnosis has always been the tool that can potentially help with this - long before TV was even invented. People with such a desire already have that avenue and have had for a very long time.

It's not really like this stunt invents anything new.

bearcow
27th April 2018, 18:33
They are using some basic programming techniques, I suggest people google the term spin alters or spin programming

https://www.survivorship.org/~survivo3/resources/articles/lovern_spinprogramming.pdf

They use the hypnotic visuals to disrupt the underpinning of a persons unconscious equilibrium. It effects the physiology and helps to bypass the conscious mind.

If you watch this I recomend you do something else at the same time to make sure you do not go into a suggestable state.

Gemma13
28th April 2018, 03:30
For sure, nothing new invented by way of hypnosis/mind control.  The newness is the NON human-to-human hypnosis platform being rolled out and tested for public acceptability.

Incidently we already have bio neuro tech on the table to erase memories which is marketed as being great for soldiers with PTSD, individuals with trauma experiences, etc.  Fast track a decade and those that can't afford medical treatments may just opt in for an easy to use computer App to do the job.  The elephant in this room is defining what constitutes significant individual trauma in the general population to warrant memory removal.

(Disclaimer: This is not about being for or against selective memory deletion, it is about the exploitation of infant methods of medical application.)

Which is why, to me,  the nefarious "future" applications of this are staggering.  Getting citizens to opt in and CHOOSE memory loss with resulting subsequent passivity is not going to help civilizations stand up to tyranny.

The controversial "safe space" movement flooding our educational institutions and communities is a wonderful primer for this ideology which could well see our younger generations latching onto it as a tool for solving "questionable" mental health issues.

Example:  The "safe space" movement is complex and I don't want to simplify it, but for the purpose of explaining why I am connecting bigger picture dots I will say that, very basically, advocates are gaining significant traction in educational institutions by creating and demanding laws that allow students to opt out of being delivered information in their lectures that they find offensive because it is distressing and upsets them e.g. rape, child abuse, genocide, etc.

And yes, rape victims, for example, do need a disclaimer so they can filter their exposure and manage information in a selective environment; and this has always been acknowledged in these institutions. But advocates are now applying the burden of selectivity onto lecturers to filter their deliveries to avoid upsetting everyone.  In some cases lecturers have been banned because their content is deemed to be potentially too distressing for students and others have lost their jobs for not complying as they believe university students should not be protected, unchallenged, and treated like primary school students.

What this means is that while individuals are continually provided tools to wrap themselves up in fluffy bubbles of ignorance the oligarchs have continual free reign to make decisions for society and individuals - without being challenged.

The internet is proving to be our greatest tool for sharing real information to support accountability and change.  It only makes sense to me to watch for signs of countering programs designed with potential to dampen the rise of awareness.

Imagine this: University student is confronted with graphic material that is upsetting.  Lets say a tutorial on the 100+ children recently rescued from child abuse and slavery.  They cry and have trouble sleeping that night.
Normal response for genuine caring individuals.

To remove the discomfort they can now opt into a hypnosis app before going to bed to remove the distressing data, get a good night sleep, and wake up back in the comfort zone of apathy.

Memory removal hypnosis Apps will take soothing waterfall Apps to a whole new dimension.  And if I can see this potential within 5 minutes of reading the op I can guarantee a team of enthusiast marketing gurus are already mapping this on their cutting floor probably with encouraging innovation and funding from a supposed humanitarian NGO.  (This would be right up Soro's alley especially as he has his fingers all over the "safe space" movement.)

Did You See Them
28th April 2018, 07:47
For sure, nothing new invented by way of hypnosis/mind control.  The newness is the NON human-to-human hypnosis platform being rolled out and tested for public acceptability.

Incidently we already have bio neuro tech on the table to erase memories which is marketed as being great for soldiers with PTSD, individuals with trauma experiences, etc.  Fast track a decade and those that can't afford medical treatments may just opt in for an easy to use computer App to do the job.  The elephant in this room is defining what constitutes significant individual trauma in the general population to warrant memory removal.

(Disclaimer: This is not about being for or against selective memory deletion, it is about the exploitation of infant methods of medical application.)

Which is why, to me,  the nefarious "future" applications of this are staggering.  Getting citizens to opt in and CHOOSE memory loss with resulting subsequent passivity is not going to help civilizations stand up to tyranny.

The controversial "safe space" movement flooding our educational institutions and communities is a wonderful primer for this ideology which could well see our younger generations latching onto it as a tool for solving "questionable" mental health issues.

Example:  The "safe space" movement is complex and I don't want to simplify it, but for the purpose of explaining why I am connecting bigger picture dots I will say that, very basically, advocates are gaining significant traction in educational institutions by creating and demanding laws that allow students to opt out of being delivered information in their lectures that they find offensive because it is distressing and upsets them e.g. rape, child abuse, genocide, etc.

And yes, rape victims, for example, do need a disclaimer so they can filter their exposure and manage information in a selective environment; and this has always been acknowledged in these institutions. But advocates are now applying the burden of selectivity onto lecturers to filter their deliveries to avoid upsetting everyone.  In some cases lecturers have been banned because their content is deemed to be potentially too distressing for students and others have lost their jobs for not complying as they believe university students should not be protected, unchallenged, and treated like primary school students.

What this means is that while individuals are continually provided tools to wrap themselves up in fluffy bubbles of ignorance the oligarchs have continual free reign to make decisions for society and individuals - without being challenged.

The internet is proving to be our greatest tool for sharing real information to support accountability and change.  It only makes sense to me to watch for signs of countering programs designed with potential to dampen the rise of awareness.

Imagine this: University student is confronted with graphic material that is upsetting.  Lets say a tutorial on the 100+ children recently rescued from child abuse and slavery.  They cry and have trouble sleeping that night.
Normal response for genuine caring individuals.

To remove the discomfort they can now opt into a hypnosis app before going to bed to remove the distressing data, get a good night sleep, and wake up back in the comfort zone of apathy.

Memory removal hypnosis Apps will take soothing waterfall Apps to a whole new dimension.  And if I can see this potential within 5 minutes of reading the op I can guarantee a team of enthusiast marketing gurus are already mapping this on their cutting floor probably with encouraging innovation and funding from a supposed humanitarian NGO.  (This would be right up Soro's alley especially as he has his fingers all over the "safe space" movement.)

Excellent post - Thank you.

DeDukshyn
28th April 2018, 17:19
For sure, nothing new invented by way of hypnosis/mind control.  The newness is the NON human-to-human hypnosis platform being rolled out and tested for public acceptability ...

"Non human-to-human" ... You mean like these hypnosis cassettes from the 1970s? Is it really new? Or, is the internet just the latest platform for an old gimmick?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Institute-Of-Hypnotherapy-6-Cassette-Set-Hypnosis-Stop-Smoking-Stress/183168300050?hash=item2aa5ae7412:g:mfcAAOSwVElayclO


Edit:

Searched youtube to see if maybe there's some non-human to human hypnosis there: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hypnosis

4.2 million results from the time youtube was invented until now ...

None of this is new ... at all - the only thing that changes is the platform.

Gemma13
29th April 2018, 01:08
Yes, Enhancers - tools for increasing memory, stress relief/meditation, stop smoking, etc - are all ethically viable giving leeway parameters for oversight.

Diminishing, undermining, compromising, reducing, compressing is a whole new ballgame.

Did You See Them
29th April 2018, 06:49
"None of this is new ... at all - the only thing that changes is the platform." - Quoting DeDukshyn.

The difference now is that it's a multi Billion Dollar Global company prompting it whilst at the same time giving the impression that its effects can target specific memories all developed by Samsung's technological and scientific background thus removing the snake oil stigma.

DeDukshyn
29th April 2018, 16:18
Yes, Enhancers - tools for increasing memory, stress relief/meditation, stop smoking, etc - are all ethically viable giving leeway parameters for oversight.

Diminishing, undermining, compromising, reducing, compressing is a whole new ballgame.

People coming to request to have memories erased by a hypnotist is also nothing new, and in fact, I just heard from a hypnotherapist that is is a very common request (by this lady:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOjyLWBDGZY) - plenty of youtube hypnosis videos on this as well (getting rid or diminishing memories).

I also found this article which recommends hypnosis to erased memories associated with PTSD: https://selfhelpfix.com/remove-bad-memories.php

Is it really a whole new ballgame?

Maybe in a year or two we can check back and see the actual effect that this ad has had ... ? I guess if everyone owns a Samsung QLED TV, we can probably conclude that it worked. :P

The sales world is, and surely almost always has been, filled with hypnotic sales techniques. This would be in the "no choice to opt-in" category. Here is an article from "Selling Power" magazine from 2010: https://www.sellingpower.com/2010/02/01/3909/hypnotic-selling-techniques.

So using hypnosis or hypnotic techniques to sell stuff -- used against us all the time currently, and likely since forever. Using it to get rid of memories, nothing new either, and something that people quite frequently desire. (even if that is shortcut thinking)

Can anyone give a specific example that this Samsung stunt would have of being negative? (note the word specific). Let's lay out the possible paths: I come across the Samsung Hypno-vert and ...
1) reject it as a stupid gimmick
2) reject it out of fear of hypnosis
3) for whatever reason, try it, and it works, (not unlike choosing to see or happening to be at a location where an entertainment hypnotist is performing).
4) for whatever reason try it and it doesn't work, (not unlike choosing to see or happening to be at a location where an entertainment hypnotist is performing) or ...

5) see it, or try it, and suddenly decide that I need a whole bunch of memories erased <-- this appears to be the feared outcome. Correct? Now what? Ask Samsung, the billion dollar techno giant, to custom make a hypnosis session for you? Or ... do you really only have the choice to go to a properly trained hypnotherapist (like the lady I linked to above), who will most likely tell you that there is better ways to deal with your issue. Or ... you could try to do self hypnosis ... and likely fail, and then get on with your life.

Hypnosis was identified in 1770 by Franz Mesmer - and thus has been well known for over 200 years (and likely lesser known for thousands). Is it reasonable to believe that hypnosis hasn't been tried for everything already? It's been used to try to get people laid, to try to make people rich, to try to make people smart, to try to sell goods, to try to control masses, aspects of its techniques are used constantly in dialogue, even by people that have no idea there are even using hypnotic techniques.

Hypnosis in general has had it's popular swells (60's 70's seemed a popular time - anyone remember the mass hypnotist Reveen?), and its lulls.

I am going stand by my original stance, and that is that this gimmick will have no overall effect whatsoever on anything, but I bet you it will sell more TVs.

There is this myth that hypnosis can make you do things against your will - this is 100% false. Hypnosis can do a lot of neat things but it cannot force someone to do something against their will. When I saw an entertainment hypnotist at a bar once, out of all the people that initially went under (it was an opt-in - obviously), he narrowed it down (after talking to each), to people that where boisterous, expressive and outgoing naturally - and he even explained why he does that - so that the people participating will be most likely to have unhindered participation in what he is asking them to do - simply because of this fact.

I don't see any difference between this and any other marketing gimmick or any other hypnosis stunt that hasn't already been tried, as I said, we've had 200 years to freely play with the effects or lack thereof of hypnosis.

But for a moment, let's also consider that Samsung knew this would be controversial; they most certainly knew that going into this and likely the marketing team said:

"perfect! - we'll then put the video on the samsung website -- everyone, whether they do the session or not, will repost this on forums and in articles, and everyone will go check out this crazy stunt - whether they hate it, fear it, or love it, it matters not, as long as we can expose our brand and logo somewhere along the line - everyone loving, hating, or other wise neutral, will have seen our brand and logo." (Oh look! the brand is even in the title of this thread and throughout this discussion!)

Now that is ****ing brilliant marketing ... and none of you even realize that THIS is where all the action is at, and this is where the true persuasion lies. Marketing works, and more powerful than any hypnosis by those who know how to wield it.