Federal government wants 1 million people for giant health study

[O Donna]

Researchers Gather Health Data For 'All Of Us'

https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/sites/default/files/centrifuge-sample-creative-commons.jpg

Federal taxpayers are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into a quest for blood samples, medical information and fitness readouts from a million Americans. It's called the All of Us precision medicine initiative, and it's the biggest push ever mounted to create a huge public pool of data that scientists — and anybody else who is interested — can mine for clues about health and disease.

Proponents say this big data approach to medicine will be revolutionary. Critics aren't so sure.

More.... (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/31/572674823/researchers-gather-health-data-for-all-of-us)

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[raregem]

My first thought: the government already has information on blood samples. However many people go to the doctor is about how many blood samples they have access to for dna info, etc.. Add the many who also pay to test there familial dna and paternity testing. BAM. And they want more? I find this funny. But the end of life as we knew it I find disturbing .Doctors are more concerned with government rules that keep people sick instead of holistic approaches. Holistic providers are leaving the country or dying sooner than later especially if they become well known.
I have grown to distrust any and most all government actions. I see this as nefarious.
I think they also use nano tech tracking in injections. As Nancy Reagon said, "Just say no".

[Alpha141]

Interesting,

This might be a bit of a tangent but also something to add. Many here may not be aware. Even if you are an Aussie. But in Australia. There has been an effort of recent years to put everyone's health records into a massive database:

https://www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/

I fully belief the intent of the people to create something like this is admirable. They use such things for emergency procedures and records say if you are unconscious and have allergies or religious beliefs. Where time matters. I fully accept this. It is important to put this out there. Many here have their records in this system already.

Imho i know such things can be used for metadata searches (Insurance Companies, Pharmaceutical Industry etc), patterns in society, perhaps a Cambridge Analytica relationship with corporations who wish to do all sorts of stuff (check out the AI section for my work with Andrew Bartzis relative to what Facebook has and will continue to do with large data sets and how vulnerable hardware systems in the western world are to agencies and AI etc). They promote the safety of your data etc. It is a selling point. Do watch the AI series i have been releasing done with Andrew. From a foundational perspective, our technology is vulnerable. By design (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102456-AI-Influence-in-Our-World-Facebook-Cambridge-Analytica-Election-influence-Amazon-Social-Engineering-Tech-Giants&p=1223392#post1223392)

Some ways i see this being employed are deploying certain vaccinations to specific regions and recording results etc. The reason i suggest regions. The bigger overall theme going on with Earth now is our relationship the her rising Ley Line / Galactic Energies and our partnership with her. Most major cities are located on powerful energy centres etc that need to be managed. In order to maintain this structure over her, her people are needed. We are in an Incarnation War. And, getting into the human DNA skin suit allows us to contribute to the resolution at a multiverse level. Hence the focus on vaccinations relative to children before they have their gifts, talents. As those sorts of things target their elimination within a rising frequency reality. It is our nature to have perceptions, intuition, psychic abilities etc.

I share this here because it seems like Australia has been a sort of testbed for moving to holding your medical information in such a structure. I share the info above to appreciate a macro scale of things occurring now. It has been a while since i have explored what else is going on in other / your parts of the world. So, it might be worth you (who are in your region) to do a bit of research and share. There will be a pattern related to this stuff. It will be something most of the world will also be looking to implement. You can count on it. To mathematically (via algorithm metadata searches etc) observe humanity and the medical aspects.

Just some thoughts on this so thanks for bringing up the topic to offer this to it for others to consider.

Cheers

[ramus]

The government has been collecting DNA for sometime now , 1994 was the beginning . What more do they need ?

https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/justice/supreme-court-dna-tests/index.html

Twenty-six states and the federal government allow genetic swabs to be taken after a felony arrest and without a warrant.
In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia said the majority's reasoning established a "terrifying principle." You know what happened to him in Texas.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/opinions/justice-scalia-no-autopsy-melinek/index.html

Scalia added the state law "manages to burden uniquely the sole group for whom the Fourth Amendment's protections ought to be most jealously guarded: people who are innocent of the state's accusations," describing of the legal concept of innocent until proven guilty.

A 1994 federal law created a national database in which local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies can compare and share information on DNA matches from convicted felons, but courts have been at odds on just when such samples can be collected and the information distributed.

By 2000, all 50 states and the federal government required DNA collection from convicted offenders, and that was soon expanded by many jurisdiction to criminal arrests.

President Obama signed the bill earlier this year. "It's the right thing to do," he said in 2010, of expanding DNA swabs for arrestees. "This is where the national registry becomes so important."
The case is Maryland v. King (12-207).

[DeDukshyn]

My first thought: the government already has information on blood samples. However many people go to the doctor is about how many blood samples they have access to for dna info, etc.. Add the many who also pay to test there familial dna and paternity testing. BAM. And they want more? I find this funny. But the end of life as we knew it I find disturbing .Doctors are more concerned with government rules that keep people sick instead of holistic approaches. Holistic providers are leaving the country or dying sooner than later especially if they become well known.
I have grown to distrust any and most all government actions. I see this as nefarious.
I think they also use nano tech tracking in injections. As Nancy Reagon said, "Just say no".

Er ... it needs to be an opt-in. There are strict laws regarding medical privacy. I could just imagine the backlash if the government started doing what you suggest.

[DeDukshyn]

The government has been collecting DNA for sometime now , 1994 was the beginning . What more do they need ?
https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/justice/supreme-court-dna-tests/index.html
.

I understand your cynicism, for sure, but obviously that doesn't represent a million random samples. It's for a crime registry.

Overall though, I think this is a bad idea as well.

[ramus]

DeDukshyn .... Who is going to blacklash on the government they control the courts the the agencies who do the investigations, i think they already have access to all the data bases, either thru back-doors in the software or straight up corruption in are medical institutions, because we all know that there is no collusion with big pharma and the government . They have access to 10's of millions of blood samples if not more.

[DeDukshyn]

DeDukshyn .... Who is going to blacklash on the government they control the courts the the agencies who do the investigations, i think they already have access to all the data bases, either thru back-doors in the software or straight up corruption in are medical institutions, because we all know that there is no collusion with big pharma and the government . They have access to 10's of millions of blood samples if not more.

In the USA, medical is private. Not government.

[raregem]

Do you really think there is any respect for our rights and the law, medical or otherwise DeDukshin?

[ramus]

I don't think you understand there is no .... PRIVATE ANYTHING.... they see it all, written or spoken.

[East Sun]

We need to be careful. There is the possibility of two opposites here.
One in our favor and the other the opposite.

I am suspicious, as a person who has blood taken once a week to check my cumadin/warfarin level. They take a full vial which can not be necessary.
Only a pin prick is necessary.
What is the extra blood used for?

[DeDukshyn]

We need to be careful. There is the possibility of two opposites here.
One in our favor and the other the opposite.

I am suspicious, as a person who has blood taken once a week to check my cumadin/warfarin level. They take a full vial which can not be necessary.
Only a pin prick is necessary.
What is the extra blood used for?

Well you could ask somebody who actually works at the lab doing the testing and performs the disposal, of what the process is? I found a reddit thread where someone asked the exact same questions - several answers from lab technicians themselves. here: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1qlzxa/what_happens_to_blood_samples_after_they_are/#bottom-comments

General addition not related to your post ...

While I would not very likely give any of my blood for something so non-specific and for anyone to potentially analyze, I am trying to determine all the nefarious possible uses for this.

A) to feed vampires
B) ... ?
C) feed vampire - like ... reptilians? I'm really grasping at straws here ... obviously ..

It would seem that maybe some of you guys have better ideas on this than I do ... "spill the beans" then if you guys have something to say.

[DeDukshyn]

Do you really think there is any respect for our rights and the law, medical or otherwise DeDukshin?

That is not my argument. My argument is around the mechanics of implying the existence such a system where things like blood samples are stored in refrigerated storage (blood will rot fairly quickly otherwise) until the weekly refrigerated "vampire truck" comes along and scoops all these samples from hundreds of thousands of private clinics across the country, and not one single "just above minimum wage" lab tech doesn't spill the beans? They all pretend to have regulations and follow regulations around proper incineration of blood, as is required by law (by law every sample has to be incinerated after use and every clinic and hospital has such incinerators), but really are colluding with the vampire squad who comes by and steals the samples for their own purposes?[/QUOTE]

I don't know ... I'm not convinced ... I'll need at least a tiny bit of evidence, even circumstantial, anecdotal or otherwise ... just something.

[DeDukshyn]

I don't think you understand there is no .... PRIVATE ANYTHING.... they see it all, written or spoken.

And apparently they somehow also test all samples of blood for everything they can? If you test for, say in East Sun's example, a specific drug level for a treatment that he is on, then the only result is warfarin / coumadin levels. The results really and honestly do not say anything else about that blood -- each test has to be specific in this regard. So even if they actually do see and here and read everything, every thought, every mumbling in a forest walk through the woods via tiny R/C mosquitoes ... the blood test result exposes ... coumadin/warfarin levels of a patient. That's it.

They would need access to the blood to infer anything more and be able to recover enough of the samples to run their own tests. As fot the mechanics regarding that, see post above.

Again, I am not trying to argue whether the OP concept is a good one or not, but it is very obvious that a lack of actually knowing sure does lead to crazy speculations at times. It's not that difficult to find these things out if you believe they are true. Just make friends with someone who works at a lab, and find out for yourself. If you find evidence. Bring that to the room and let's discuss. I love a crazy conspiracy theory any day, but there has to be at least some evidence, motivations, and mechanics for it to actually work.

[raregem]

Dekushyn- not interested in arguing ..... you believe laws are adhered to by the the medical doctors. I do not trust them with my blood or anything else. I believe they are part of the problem. No argument..just opposite views.

[DeDukshyn]

Dekushyn- not interested in arguing ..... you believe laws are adhered to by the the medical doctors. I do not trust them with my blood or anything else. I believe they are part of the problem. No argument..just opposite views.

That's fine, let's change the direction then ... let's assume you and ramus are right and they have already everybody's medical records and dna samples of everyone or have access to such in some way, as is being suggested.

What then, is the true motivation, do you think, for wanting a million blood samples? You must be considering that this really isn't for a health study. What might it be for? I am having a hard time imagining what, without really grasping at some weird straws.

[Frenchy]

" ... I am suspicious,...They take a full vial which can not be necessary.Only a pin prick is necessary.What is the extra blood used for?

" What then, is the true motivation, ... for wanting a million blood samples?

1. Back in the 80's, my then GF, (a Nurse), thought it a good idea, I take advantage of the then " Free Chloresterol check-ups "... so , had the first one done around 1984,
Afree 'follow-up' offered again (1985), this time they filled TWO VIALS. ! The practice Nurse responded to my query " Why TWO vials ?" with a VERY GUILTY look....

Around 1995 the South Wales police UK, announced they'd found - thanks to DNA, the killer of the two " LLandarcy (UK) " girls ( Raped -Murdered 1976 (?) )

No doubt in my mind, this was as a DIRECT result of the sneaky, illegal, un-ethical manner they obtained the result... TWIST to the tale : Police refused to name the Murderer, since as he had subsequently died, could serve nothing but bring grief to HIS family.... I STRONGLY believe the Murderer was a copper...

2. though the ' Genome Project 'had been completed, is it not realistic to suggest:

2.1 Variants of DNA could be tracked.
2.2 Effects of Toxic poisoning ( Vaccines, ChemTrails, Food - ingested Nano's
& other ' Markers 'could be stastistically monitored, to evaluate effectiveness
of A21 / A30 ?
3. One technique for CLANDESTINE Micro-chipping, is to use syringes adapted to
insert the chip, during planned programs ( as 'FREE' testing for Chloresterols,
Lead, etc... )

4. in respect of 3. above, do not forget Nanotechnology, is not always
' self-activating', but might require specific 'Triggers', be they EMF waves,
or ' Blood-Group' specific, etc...

[amor]

Do what the ARMY says, "NEVER VOLUNTEER.'

[conk]

Dekushyn- not interested in arguing ..... you believe laws are adhered to by the the medical doctors. I do not trust them with my blood or anything else. I believe they are part of the problem. No argument..just opposite views.

Not to worry friend. There is ample evidence to support your contention. The politics of medical is nasty business. There absolutely is no privacy, even though the statutes suggest there is.

[DeDukshyn]

Dekushyn- not interested in arguing ..... you believe laws are adhered to by the the medical doctors. I do not trust them with my blood or anything else. I believe they are part of the problem. No argument..just opposite views.

Not to worry friend. There is ample evidence to support your contention. The politics of medical is nasty business. There absolutely is no privacy, even though the statutes suggest there is.

...



Do you really think there is any respect for our rights and the law, medical or otherwise DeDukshin?

That is not my argument ...

Once again that was never my argument ... sheesh you people.

[conk]

Dekushyn- not interested in arguing ..... you believe laws are adhered to by the the medical doctors. I do not trust them with my blood or anything else. I believe they are part of the problem. No argument..just opposite views.

Not to worry friend. There is ample evidence to support your contention. The politics of medical is nasty business. There absolutely is no privacy, even though the statutes suggest there is.

Once again that was never my argument ... sheesh you people. I was supporting raregem,, rather than rebutting your offering. What you wrote begs interest.

[DeDukshyn]

" ... I am suspicious,...They take a full vial which can not be necessary.Only a pin prick is necessary.What is the extra blood used for?

" What then, is the true motivation, ... for wanting a million blood samples?

1. Back in the 80's, my then GF, (a Nurse), thought it a good idea, I take advantage of the then " Free Chloresterol check-ups "... so , had the first one done around 1984,
Afree 'follow-up' offered again (1985), this time they filled TWO VIALS. ! The practice Nurse responded to my query " Why TWO vials ?" with a VERY GUILTY look....

Around 1995 the South Wales police UK, announced they'd found - thanks to DNA, the killer of the two " LLandarcy (UK) " girls ( Raped -Murdered 1976 (?) )

No doubt in my mind, this was as a DIRECT result of the sneaky, illegal, un-ethical manner they obtained the result... TWIST to the tale : Police refused to name the Murderer, since as he had subsequently died, could serve nothing but bring grief to HIS family.... I STRONGLY believe the Murderer was a copper...

2. though the ' Genome Project 'had been completed, is it not realistic to suggest:

2.1 Variants of DNA could be tracked.
2.2 Effects of Toxic poisoning ( Vaccines, ChemTrails, Food - ingested Nano's
& other ' Markers 'could be stastistically monitored, to evaluate effectiveness
of A21 / A30 ?
3. One technique for CLANDESTINE Micro-chipping, is to use syringes adapted to
insert the chip, during planned programs ( as 'FREE' testing for Chloresterols,
Lead, etc... )

4. in respect of 3. above, do not forget Nanotechnology, is not always
' self-activating', but might require specific 'Triggers', be they EMF waves,
or ' Blood-Group' specific, etc...

Hi Frenchy, thanks for the note. Raregem and Ramus say "they" already have all our information and records, so it is in this context of me asking what these new samples are for if they already have free access to all our info and blood samples - why would they ask for it if they already have it? This is the question I was presenting ... so far no one has even attempted to answer this.

[raregem]

" ... I am suspicious,...They take a full vial which can not be necessary.Only a pin prick is necessary.What is the extra blood used for?

" What then, is the true motivation, ... for wanting a million blood samples?

1. Back in the 80's, my then GF, (a Nurse), thought it a good idea, I take advantage of the then " Free Chloresterol check-ups "... so , had the first one done around 1984,
Afree 'follow-up' offered again (1985), this time they filled TWO VIALS. ! The practice Nurse responded to my query " Why TWO vials ?" with a VERY GUILTY look....

Around 1995 the South Wales police UK, announced they'd found - thanks to DNA, the killer of the two " LLandarcy (UK) " girls ( Raped -Murdered 1976 (?) )

No doubt in my mind, this was as a DIRECT result of the sneaky, illegal, un-ethical manner they obtained the result... TWIST to the tale : Police refused to name the Murderer, since as he had subsequently died, could serve nothing but bring grief to HIS family.... I STRONGLY believe the Murderer was a copper...

2. though the ' Genome Project 'had been completed, is it not realistic to suggest:

2.1 Variants of DNA could be tracked.
2.2 Effects of Toxic poisoning ( Vaccines, ChemTrails, Food - ingested Nano's
& other ' Markers 'could be stastistically monitored, to evaluate effectiveness
of A21 / A30 ?
3. One technique for CLANDESTINE Micro-chipping, is to use syringes adapted to
insert the chip, during planned programs ( as 'FREE' testing for Chloresterols,
Lead, etc... )

4. in respect of 3. above, do not forget Nanotechnology, is not always
' self-activating', but might require specific 'Triggers', be they EMF waves,
or ' Blood-Group' specific, etc...

Hi Frenchy, thanks for the note. Raregem and Ramus say "they" already have all our information and records, so it is in this context of me asking what these new samples are for if they already have free access to all our info and blood samples - why would they ask for it if they already have it? This is the question I was presenting ... so far no one has even attempted to answer this.

Hi DeDukshyn-
Dang- I reread your first sentences and boy it is so easy to misunderstand wording so I erased my first sentence.

I chose not to go into details simply b/c I have learned that people want the answers given to them and your question(s) are a great deal of homework to get you to see my understanding. I no longer make that effort as so many have consistently been overwhelmingly shut off to the ideas and possibilities that all is NOT as it has been taught. Since you are asking so strongly I think you will get your answers someway, somehow!
It took me many years to understand and accept that truth/ honesty from the "system" is nothing more than a manipulation for nefarious reasons. "They" do NOT have our best interest at heart. There are some who care but as a whole the system is nefarious.
I apologize for not being willing to fill in the many blanks for you. I sense this topic is more of a journey into knowing and that is done through you and where the rabbit hole takes you for the understanding and aha moments. (You probably know this already)
It can take years ...or not. Best to you.

[DeDukshyn]

" ... I am suspicious,...They take a full vial which can not be necessary.Only a pin prick is necessary.What is the extra blood used for?

" What then, is the true motivation, ... for wanting a million blood samples?

1. Back in the 80's, my then GF, (a Nurse), thought it a good idea, I take advantage of the then " Free Chloresterol check-ups "... so , had the first one done around 1984,
Afree 'follow-up' offered again (1985), this time they filled TWO VIALS. ! The practice Nurse responded to my query " Why TWO vials ?" with a VERY GUILTY look....

Around 1995 the South Wales police UK, announced they'd found - thanks to DNA, the killer of the two " LLandarcy (UK) " girls ( Raped -Murdered 1976 (?) )

No doubt in my mind, this was as a DIRECT result of the sneaky, illegal, un-ethical manner they obtained the result... TWIST to the tale : Police refused to name the Murderer, since as he had subsequently died, could serve nothing but bring grief to HIS family.... I STRONGLY believe the Murderer was a copper...

2. though the ' Genome Project 'had been completed, is it not realistic to suggest:

2.1 Variants of DNA could be tracked.
2.2 Effects of Toxic poisoning ( Vaccines, ChemTrails, Food - ingested Nano's
& other ' Markers 'could be stastistically monitored, to evaluate effectiveness
of A21 / A30 ?
3. One technique for CLANDESTINE Micro-chipping, is to use syringes adapted to
insert the chip, during planned programs ( as 'FREE' testing for Chloresterols,
Lead, etc... )

4. in respect of 3. above, do not forget Nanotechnology, is not always
' self-activating', but might require specific 'Triggers', be they EMF waves,
or ' Blood-Group' specific, etc...

Hi Frenchy, thanks for the note. Raregem and Ramus say "they" already have all our information and records, so it is in this context of me asking what these new samples are for if they already have free access to all our info and blood samples - why would they ask for it if they already have it? This is the question I was presenting ... so far no one has even attempted to answer this.

Hi DeDukshyn-
Dang- I reread your first sentences and boy it is so easy to misunderstand wording so I erased my first sentence.

I chose not to go into details simply b/c I have learned that people want the answers given to them and your question(s) are a great deal of homework to get you to see my understanding. I no longer make that effort as so many have consistently been overwhelmingly shut off to the ideas and possibilities that all is NOT as it has been taught. Since you are asking so strongly I think you will get your answers someway, somehow!
It took me many years to understand and accept that truth/ honesty from the "system" is nothing more than a manipulation for nefarious reasons. "They" do NOT have our best interest at heart. There are some who care but as a whole the system is nefarious.
I apologize for not being willing to fill in the many blanks for you. I sense this topic is more of a journey into knowing and that is done through you and where the rabbit hole takes you for the understanding and aha moments. (You probably know this already)
It can take years ...or not. Best to you.

I presented a simple question: If they already know and have all our blood samples and medical records, what is the purpose of this study? This is Avalon, we are allowed to present crazy conspiracy theories, as long as it's not flat-earth level stupid. So as I said before "spill the beans" - if something reasonable is presented that has the correct motivation to justify it (in someone's mind), and it is reasonably practical to carry out, I will fully accept the answer as a possibility.

Let me try to answer my own question then, with possible answers:

1) They don't actually have all our DNA info and medical records and thus they are requesting it, which is really my only argument, regardless of what their use is - including anything your many years of "homework" may have revealed.

2) The reptilian elite like to drink human blood and the samples are for this purpose (this one actually works with the premise you and ramus put forth as they would need "more" blood).

3) The "Blood Drive (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4898282/)" is real and they need fuel for the car engines to win the race (human blood is the fuel).

4) I don't know, this seems to be some sort of secret that everyone "just knows" but won't tell me ...

"The system is nefarious for many reasons" -- couldn't agree more.
"Don't trust doctors and medical systems" -- me neither at all in fact.
"Years and years of homework in the medical system" -- done it. There's nothing you could present that I wouldn't already have considered.
"Believe that some medical records can get into the wrong hands" -- 100% believe it.

You keep arguing these, but I never argued any of them and I fully agree with you and Ramus on this. The part I don't agree with is the have DNA sequencing of "everyone", easy access to "everyone's" blood, or medical records - I never questioned anything else on this topic.

There's nothing you can say that I don't already know, have heard of, or have considered.

You are trying to convince me of things I already agree with ...

So my only question is -- if they already have all our DNA, blood samples and medical records, what else is left to be attained from this? If you want to say "Item #2 on your list" -- Then that works as an answer. Are you afraid to say it? The unwillingness to answer a very simple and straightforward question ... now that is odd.

I am also not in argument mode, but now I really want to know the reluctance to answer such a question, after-all this is avalon ... not facebook. :) I am curious :)

Is the fear that you might have to answer "item one"? :P


What Frenchy proposed is 100% plausible, I fully agree with this and my "item #1" works with her response perfectly ... but, if the premise that "they" already have all our blood samples and medical records is true, then there is no need to ask for another million samples, is there? What then is the samples for?

[raregem]

DeK - enough already. No fear. Period. No desire to "answer to" you. Period. Continue your quest just leave me out of it. Thanks. I feel bullied by you.

[Frenchy]

Hi DeDukshyn,Excuse me please if I was not clear in my meaning !
Basically, any Data held (Blood Groups, Blood Analysis, etc, might be too dated for (who ? ) to have accurate up-to-date asessments, of their programs effictiveness.
Nanotechnologies, GMOD's, Toxin absorbtions (Rates, Levels ), would need I think, imho, to be up-dated in specific frequencies, for them to plan the Aerosol Spraying, Food Additives etc..
A good indicator for those interested " Nano-Quell " The US program of adding Nanotechnology to US Foods & Beverages...

[O Donna]

Hi DeDukshyn,Excuse me please if I was not clear in my meaning !
Basically, any Data held (Blood Groups, Blood Analysis, etc, might be too dated for (who ? ) to have accurate up-to-date asessments, of their programs effictiveness.
Nanotechnologies, GMOD's, Toxin absorbtions (Rates, Levels ), would need I think, imho, to be up-dated in specific frequencies, for them to plan the Aerosol Spraying, Food Additives etc..
A good indicator for those interested " Nano-Quell " The US program of adding Nanotechnology to US Foods & Beverages...

Yes, I was thinking along these lines as well before I got to the end and saw your post Frenchy.

I agree there are plenty of worker bees that truly care and that is a big part of why they are in the medical field but there is no question in my mind that there are dark elements that have the means, motivation, and power to break any laws set up to protect patient privacy without the lower echelon knowing what is going on.

At it's basic level this study is nothing more the governmental data mining and it's not a leap to see where the information obtained could very well impact innocent lives in the future due to governmental meddling.