Can your dog or cat that has passed away make contact with you from the hereafter?

[pyrangello]

I really wanted to ask this, last week I had to make the decision to put my 15 yr,6 mo. old lab to sleep. She only had one good leg left, her bones were cracking when she moved and she wasn't getting up on her own anymore. Tough tough day taking her in and saying goodbye. Her AKC name was Rylee Rylee O'Rylee, and was she smart and did she push your buttons if you didn't pay attention to her. And I mean daily. Since her passing we have had a small bottle go off the shelf and now every night a light is being turned on by itself while I am up reading or getting something to drink. It has been consistent for 5 days now every night. May I ask can this be her ? and will I see her again when its my time? Thank You

[Bill Ryan]

Not quite the question you asked! But remember... animals reincarnate, too.

[Valerie Villars]

You will see her Pyrangello, when you are free like she is. But you will both have a good laugh in the pub and then realize you are part of each other. And then it won't matter so much if you see "her" anymore. We're all part of God. You want to say goodbye. You want to make sure she's okay and she's not in any physical and emotional pain. If you knew she was happy, wouldn't that make it better?

She's in a different dimension and she feels your love. You're the problem.

I don't even know where that came from but I felt compelled to type it.

I had to relinquish the dog love of my life. God I loved that dog. She's fine, you just can't see her. I know you miss her. It's just where we are right now. Hang in there.

[Noelle]

That you're asking this question suggest to me that you know the answer. You're sensing something.

I have had very lucid dreams in which I am with one of my dogs or cats that has passed. I know others who have as well.

Several times while resting, though awake, I have felt a cat walking on me or near me on the bed -- and none of my living cats are nearby.

I induced an OBE a few years ago with the intention of seeing a cat that had passed many years ago. While she was here, she was my best friend. She died young (7 years-old) of feline leukemia, and I mourned for her for years. Anyway, in the OBE that I induced, I made it to her. She was staying with some older woman, who I don't think I have ever known in this lifetime. As I perceived it, this older woman was taking care of her for me. I spent some time with the cat, holding her on my lap and talking to her. When it was time to go, I just cried. I didn't want to leave her. When I woke up, I was crying real tears. I don't know where that experience took place, but I have never doubted that I was with her.

[RunningDeer]

I really wanted to ask this, last week I had to make the decision to put my 15 yr,6 mo. old lab to sleep. She only had one good leg left, her bones were cracking when she moved and she wasn't getting up on her own anymore. Tough tough day taking her in and saying goodbye. Her AKC name was Rylee Rylee O'Rylee, and was she smart and did she push your buttons if you didn't pay attention to her. And I mean daily. Since her passing we have had a small bottle go off the shelf and now every night a light is being turned on by itself while I am up reading or getting something to drink. It has been consistent for 5 days now every night. May I ask can this be her ? and will I see her again when its my time? Thank You
Sorry for your loss, pyrangello.http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/comes-in-hug.gif



Rylee Rylee O’Rylee run free.
Rylee Rylee O’Rylee run free.

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Wolfie, my 16+ year old Yorkie passed four years ago this month. He’s in my dreams most nights. I often sense him around me. When I’m going off to sleep, Wolfie curls up in his favorite spot on the bed. Sometime I catch myself watching where I step because I sense he’s right there.


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I read where some pets large and small meet up with their love ones and carry on. I found comfort in that knowledge. Shortly after, I experienced it first hand:




My neighbor, Barbara had a dog named, Mikie. As part of his training, she’d walk him around the circle driveway, and also he’d accompanied her with the chores like empty trash and care for the horses. Always the same trot from both of them, and same hand positions with the leash.

One morning, Barbara emptied the trash and came around the circle. Only this time, she walked with an invisible leash, the same hand positions as always. And Mikie? He was trotting right by her side only in his light-body. I blinked a couple of times, still in disbelief.

That afternoon, Barbara dug a deep hole with the farm equipment next to the horse fence. Then she walked the circle alone with a wrapped up bundle. She lowered herself into the knee deep hole, and gently laid her Mikie to rest.

(I didn't know he had passed. I clearly saw him in his light body.)

♡

[applepie]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

[applepie]

Yes, they can. I have personallyy experienced this.
My cat and myself were very close. I looked at her as a human with four legs and I think she looked at me as a cat with two legs. She trusted me absolutely. I would throw her high up into the air and when she would fall down I would catch her just before she hit the ground. To my amazement when I would catch her, she was purring and showed no sign of distress or fear. She just trusted me.
I could write a book about how much she taught me about trust. Trusting yourself, let alone others, is a BIG issue in the evolution of our souls, I believe.
To make a long story short, my cat after a long journey with me, became unable to look after herself and I decided to put her to sleep. I said goodbye to her at home before taking her to the vet. I wept while holding her in my arms and my tears fell on her and I sensed she knew something unusual was happening.
Exactly 24 hours after I had her put to sleep, she communicated with me telepathically. She asked me three times "why did you do this to me?" And telepathically I replied that I loved her and I asked her to move into the light.
After much soul searching, I came to the conclusion that putting an animal that you have bonded with to sleep is really a breach of trust. I realized that the period when an animal that totally trusts you comes to the end of her/his journey on earth with us, is a period that actually offers high soul growth potential in terms of REAL trust. I did not honour her wish to live life with me to the very end. I disrespected her wish. I made the decision to kill her which essentially is a breach of her trust in me. To this day, I regret my decision.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I have lost 3 dogs in the last 10 years. Sometimes they will show up in my dreams. I feel that they reincarnate as do humans.
I talk to them many times each day, telling them I love them and I hope they are having fun.
I will not let my animals suffer if they are terminally ill or in permanent severe pain.
And I hope the universe responds the same to me.
Sometimes I spontaneously call their names and have an emotional experience. Perhaps that is me sensing their presence.

[Andre]

... To make a long story short, my cat after a long journey with me, became unable to look after herself and I decided to put her to sleep. I said goodbye to her at home before taking her to the vet. I wept while holding her in my arms and my tears fell on her and I sensed she knew something unusual was happening.
Exactly 24 hours after I had her put to sleep, she communicated with me telepathically. She asked me three times "why did you do this to me?" And telepathically I replied that I loved her and I asked her to move into the light.
After much soul searching, I came to the conclusion that putting an animal that you have bonded with to sleep is really a breach of trust. I realized that the period when an animal that totally trusts you comes to the end of her/his journey on earth with us, is a period that actually offers high soul growth potential in terms of REAL trust. I did not honour her wish to live life with me to the very end. I disrespected her wish. I made the decision to kill her which essentially is a breach of her trust in me. To this day, I regret my decision.

Does the issue of euthanasia arise for our animal friends? I think so. If my pet is suffering immensely, I will most definitely look closely at putting down the poor creature in a humanely way. It seems to me cruel to do otherwise. We do it for our friends and families, so why not for our animal friends?

[pyrangello]

Well the light came on again last night between 3 and 4 am in the sun porch by itself just like it has since rylee went to sleep. In regards to having her put to sleep. I struggled with that decision for 6 months. During that time she had 3 day long seizures where she couldn't get up but then bounced back starting the next day. Her back legs were very wobbly regarding sideways motion but she still was jumping on the couch everyday to lay down. Her front legs had arthritis in her shoulders but she compensated in so many ways that is until one of her front legs started going bad and wasn't getting any better over 5 days. Rylee never yelped from the pain ever, walked like a 110 year old person would that was an olympic athelete all there life. But the vet said when she is breathing really hard thats when she is in alot of pain.i did make the decision when after 5 days of her front leg not working and now only down to one good leg plus her falling down and whenever i propped her up you could here her spine and ribs cracking that yes it was time.

[Chelseab]

I can say with all honesty that I've had several of my furry friends make contact. I've literally seen them, they have shown themselves to me in a whole, and also, much healthier body than when they left. The first time I thought I was losing my mind, but I have come to realize we are all spirit. This has happened to me many times, and it's given me so much hope, because it is a validation that we are all spirit. So, I suggest keeping your mind open and realize that your Rylee is in a much better place, and as the old saying goes, she is waiting for you when you cross, as are all the others. I hope this gives you a little peace of mind because it is what I believe without a doubt.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Well, he's incorrect. :)

[Valerie Villars]

My son used to do things like that after he passed. There were so many ways he let me know he was okay I couldn't list them all.

I was led to a psychic in Florida after he passed. This man was incredible. I told him nothing. There was no way he could have known my son died. My son did come through, but one thing he said stuck with me. It was only two weeks after his body died and Glenn was astounded he came through at all, considering he hadn't time to get adjusted to the other side.

I did indeed know after that session we don't die. Neither do our pets. Pyrangello I have read many of your posts and you seem to be very spiritual. Ask for a sign. Sometimes you have to be specific and give a time frame.

A big hug to you.

[sijohn]

I hope that Bill is right with his first reply (fairly sure) but all my sympathies for your loss and know how close you can become with pets and animals who often have more humanistic traits than some so called humans

Love is love

[Rhah]

From 1939's Reincarnation by Manly P. Hall:


All the animate and inanimate bodies in nature are ensouled by the same divine force. This spiritual power manifests through the various kingdoms according to the intrinsic nature and the degree of evolution which each has attained. The difference between man and animal is intellectual rather than spiritual or physical. The lower beasts lacking certain mental and sensory developments peculiar to man are incapable of reflection and expression to the same degree.
[...]
It is obvious from the study of highly domesticated animals that these creatures have absorbed a great deal from their human associates and are capable of a measure of true intellection.
[...]
Philosophically, the difference between man and the animal lies in the metaphysical structure. The human being has individualized its sattva or ego. As a result man is responsible only to himself for his actions. He is rewarded for good and punished for evil by his own spiritual nature.
In the case of the animal the entity has not been individualized but remains as one collective source of life. Man emanates only one physical body at a time; the animal entity emanates numerous physical bodies at one time, all of which are dependent upon itself. There is a collective animal entity for each of the species of animals and their subdivisions. Thus there is a collective entity for dogs, and within this, lesser collective entities for each type or kind of dog.
When man incarnates he is a complete unit consisting of an entity and its mental, emotional and physical bodies. The seperate animal is not complete, for while its lower bodies are individual, its entity and mind are collective. The result is that in the animal evolution all animals develop and gain experience through the evolution of any one of their kind, whereas man must grow individually. When an animal dies, the collective entity immediately sends out other embodiments, but there can be no such thing as the reincarnation of any specific animal.
As animals have superphysical as well as physical bodies, they may continue for a time in the invisible worlds. Therefore animals, like humans, can be earthbound, and under certain conditions can be seen clairvoyantly after they have physically died.
[...]
The law of reincarnation is not applicable to animals because of their constant emergence from the sollective self, but the approximate period between waves of emanation is from five to ten years in higher mammals, and only a few days in some insects and fishes.

Sorry for your loss, and I hope this helps :heart:
I hope you'll be able to find solace in the idea that because of the wonderful life she has had with you, Rylee has had a positive influence on the overall evolution of her kind.

[pyrangello]

On the first day I found Rylee, there was an ad
in the paper for lab pups November , 2002. I went to the house and
there were her lab parents and 10 little puppies,all snow white, they had a big room in
the garage so I sat on the floor and this one puppy came to me 3 times,
6 weeks old and 9 lbs. I said this is the one, put her in the truck and
she fell asleep in my lap on the way home. I got a big cardboard box
until I crate trained her to sleep in. She only cried 1 time for about
10 minutes one night and that was all during her puppy life. On the very first day at the
house I filled her bowl with food and went into the living room, after
she got done eating at 6 weeks old her very first day at her new home
she grabbed the bowl which was way larger than her head and carried it
in the living room where I was sitting and dropped the bowl in front of
me saying she wanted more food. THE VERY FIRST DAY!

After I got her crate trained I use to leave her cage door open in the house , I had
built a carpeted ramp up to the cage so she could see outside during the
day, one day I came home and she was laying in her crate with her head
outside of the crate on the ramp only she managed to drag my pillow from
the bedroom ,off my bed ,and put it on the ramp for her head to lay on.

When the snow came she would always lay on the snow put her head and
nose under the snow and push with her hind feet. Then one night at the
cabin when she was 6 months we threw a dozen biscuits in the air in 2ft
of snow in the middle of the night and yep she found every one of them.
She loved the snow and water so much. And because she loved the water so much
I bought her a kiddie pool for the backyard, she loved that pool, when
I kept it filled all summer long, when she would lay in that pool Rylee would
Put her head under the water and push around the inside blowing bubbles the
Entire time. During the winter when the creek froze over she was run on top of the ice
Crashing thru full steam, then roll in the dirty water, oh god how many baths
I had to give her.

Boy the 2cd picture was classic rylee, always eyeballing the beer. She
definitely made her dent in bud light,even when I would have a bud light
,she would take her paw and pull the bottle to her mouth and she knew
The words bud light.

Underwear and sock tearing, hat stealing, Every evening when I got home
Rylee was always charged up and ready to play, if you didn’t want to play
She knew how to get your attention, she would go down the hall and get a sock
,hat or pair of undies, trot down to where you were in the house and stand there
Just over arms length and snort. If you didn’t get up and get a biscuit for her she would
Drop whatever she had in her mouth on the floor, put one paw on it and grab the remaining
With her teeth and pull so straight up tearing it in 2. And guess what if you still didn’t get
Her a biscuit then, she was going back in the bedroom for the other sock to do this all again
Right in front of you. Me and all my friends lost a lot of socks and hats over the years.

One time when I was bar-b-queing she grabbed an entire round steak raw off the plate
before it hit the bar-b-que and swallowed it whole,still can’t believe she swallowed that
and also her famous howling at the trains outside whenever they came by. She hadn't
barked in almost 2 years and never made a sound not once of how much pain she was in .

One time she drank 2 bud lights, that was only once and that was her
limit. She jumped and caught the Frisbee I don't know how many times in
the air , she was fast and could she jump. We also played back and forth with
the ball at least 20 times in a row in the air a bunch in the living room on so many evenings.
She would punch the ball back with her nose with precision just like in volleyball.

One time I took her to lake on the boat, she didn't leave the lake for 8
hours except to get on the pontoon and raid the cooler of lunch meat by
herself, she pushed open the cooler top and there it was, the grand meal
waiting for her, she would wait til you weren’t looking and then it was picnic time..

While you were sitting on the couch Rylee was a master at taking out your
baseball hat while you were wearing it with her front teeth right behind you and then run til she got a
biscuit. She knew the words chalet and bud light, she would always wake
up 20 minutes before cabin north to sniff the air vent knowing we were
close, one time I passed the cabin purposely and she went back to sleep
after I did, all because she knew , and did she ever know.

She hadn't slept on the bed in probably 3 years, she had a matress on the floor, but even up to 3 days
ago when she could barely walk, she still managed to jump on the couch
for a nap. And thats where I sat with her on the last night at the house
until 3 am to just say goodbye the night before I had her put to sleep.

Rylee knew all the hand signals without saying a word,If you tapped both your shoulders at the same time when you were on your knees
She would jump at you head on and knock you over and lick your face because that
Was the signal for hugs! She knew all the signals roll over, stay, sit , lay, go left, go right.

At Christmas time, when all the presents were around the tree, there was always presents for Rylee,
On Christmas morning I would tell Rylee to go get her present, and she would dig thru the pile of presents and would find the one with her name on it, I swear to god, I still have no idea how she would find it and yes she would open too.And usually I would have a few more and yes she would go get those to right out of the pile.

I guess the best thing about Rylee was the definition of unconditional love I learned from her, coming from a pretty shxxx childhood never really learned that, never understood that,I do now, I think Rylee would have been posting on this forum as how intuitive she was. I wanted to post this above because I needed help understanding all this and wanted you to know she was much more than a pet, I'm too tied emotionally to this to stay on point with my spiritual side of understanding but I'll get there and yes one day I'll let go, I'm thinking on her birthday this year which was halloween.

I will say when I went home to pick her up to take her in for her last ride in the truck, that was the hardest thing I ever did. But while she was on the comforter at the vets and when she took her last breath, a heavy one. You could feel the relief of all that pain was now gone, you could feel it lift from her, even my wife who is an empath felt it too. So I knew it was the right thing to do. I hope all of you got to know Rylee a little better from the story above and got a few laughs , I'll post a picture later tonight. I have to work, kind of tough welding when you have tears but I'll get there . I know she's ok now but I don't think she's done getting attention yet.

[waves]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Well, he's incorrect. :)

After closely studying and having a hard time finding flaws with physicist Tom Campbell's Theory of Everything, I'm also having a hard time letting go of the notion of reincarnation as an exact same soul identity on some journey of evolving through repeating, and the comfort of thinking there are ongoing loving relationships that were seemingly so meaningful in lifetimes that endure. It's so much lonelier than our romanticized constructs of enduring attachments.

Instead, all is information including ourselves and others that are creations of our mind to interact with, these 'avatars' dissipate at death though the 'experiences' and 'personality' of those individuated constructs can be reconstituted at will from the experience data accumulated/stored during that avatar's 'lifetime' as if still the person/creation we knew.

If reincarnation is true as generally characterized as above, then Tom Campbell is totally incorrect. I would be very interested to hear where you think Tom Campbell's reasoning is flawed.

[Dennis Leahy]

There is no way to scientifically study reincarnation. All evidence is anecdotal. However, I think that Dr. Michael Newton did a good job of collecting, comparing, and contrasting "between incarnations" (spirit) memories of thousands of people, and tried to be scientific about it. In one account of a between-incarnations memory, there was a spirit dog romping and playing.

Some dogs appear to be FAR more evolved than most humans. My sister had a Golden that was the purest and most intense fountain of love-energy of any being I have ever encountered. I'd be much more surprised if that dog doesn't live on in spirit form.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks for sharing, pyrangello! Heart warming tale! :bearhug:

[Ewan]

Got my first dog when I was only 12 years old, Cindy we called her and she was a cross whippet. Best friend I had in my young years but when I moved away from home I kind of forgot about her, (sounds callous I know).

In Australia, aged 26 and working on a cattle station in the Northern Territory my mind was suddenly filled with a vision of her and I had many memories of her over the next few hours. I came to the conclusion that she must have passed but it was several weeks before I got the confirmation in a phone call with my mother.

Roll forward the years and I bought a German Shephard pup when I was mid 30's. Took her to Thailand with me aged 40 and we lived there 5 years. She was pretty much my constant companion although I will say the flight to Thailand was very traumatic for her. When I finally got to go and collect her she was standing in her carry cage head hanging down looking for all the world like the life had already ended. I spoke and got no reaction, I tried again. "Gypsy, it's me". She looked up but it still took about 10 seconds for recognition to truly dawn, when it did the explosion of joy lasted nearly 20 minutes. Out in the car park she'd still suddenly burst into leaping and whining trying to lick my face.

I had to return to England, aged 45, and bearing in mind she was over 10 years old and remembering her flight experience I couldn't put her through another plus 6 months quarantine back in UK. So I said my goodbyes and left her in the care of my wife's parents. It had been her home for the last 3 years and she was settled with everyone.

About a year later I had a very vivid dream where I saw her in the back garden of my current house with my Aunt Doreen. My Aunt had been passed for several years already, putting two and two together I assumed Gypsy had now passed and was with my Aunt. I told my wife next morning that I thought Gypsy was dead and had a confirmation a few short days later when she rang her mother at the weekend. She was barely 11 yrs old.

So yeah, Pyrangello, it could definitely be her - still pulling your strings. :)

PS: My very psychic friend told me once she often saw a woman standing behind me as though watching over me. The first time she visited my house she noticed a picture. "That's the woman. The one I see behind you sometimes."
It was a picture of myself and Doreen at my cousin's wedding taken over 20 years earlier. My mother's sister who had often told me that we (my sister and I) were the children she had never had.

[wnlight]

Meher Baba and I disagree. If you find another very young dog soon after your dog's death, the soul of your dead pet will move into the new puppy if you look for it. I am sure that pets that live close to a person will develop a soul. The experts do not know. They think that animals have no feelings, no emotions, no soul, and cannot communicate with humans. All false.

[wnlight]

applepie, I am sure that friends have told you that it is the right thing to put down a beloved pet that no longer has quality of life. It is still difficult to decide when that time has come. In my dog Sam's case, he could no longer walk/crawl outside to do his 'business'. I had been carrying him out. He was in pain. He was 15 years old - which is an expected lifetime for a large poodle. He told me that he was not happy. I held him in my arms with love while the vet gave him injections. Now, I am sure that he knew then. I could not hold back the tears. My previous poodle ran upstairs and died in my arms at home.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.
Well, he's incorrect. :)

After closely studying and having a hard time finding flaws with physicist Tom Campbell's Theory of Everything, I'm also having a hard time letting go of the notion of reincarnation as an exact same soul identity on some journey of evolving through repeating, and the comfort of thinking there are ongoing loving relationships that were seemingly so meaningful in lifetimes that endure. It's so much lonelier than our romanticized constructs of enduring attachments.

Instead, all is information including ourselves and others that are creations of our mind to interact with, these 'avatars' dissipate at death though the 'experiences' and 'personality' of those individuated constructs can be reconstituted at will from the experience data accumulated/stored during that avatar's 'lifetime' as if still the person/creation we knew.

If reincarnation is true as generally characterized as above, then Tom Campbell is totally incorrect. I would be very interested to hear where you think Tom Campbell's reasoning is flawed.

Well, Tom Campbell says this:


“When you have been back to this virtual reality a few times you get nudged a lot by guidance. Each time you come back initially you know zero but after a many incarnations you will start to be nudged to remind you. Paranormal experiences will pop in your face to speed up your process and so, as you don’t lose the gains you made in previous lifetimes, an attempt is made to bring you back up to speed so you can get to the bit where you were at the last time.” - Dr. Tom Campbell, My Big T.O.E. (http://amzn.to/2duVMyR)
That sounds to me like he's most definitely referring to a single soul identity. And assuming so, he'd be right. :thumbsup:

[Valerie Villars]

There is no amount of intellect on this earth that would ever convince me animals don't have feelings, emotions, intellect and a sense of humor. I once communicated with a dog (an astounding experience) and was blown away. They are just like us, only better.

[Ewan]

There is no amount of intellect on this earth that would ever convince me animals don't have feelings, emotions, intellect and a sense of humor. I once communicated with a dog (an astounding experience) and was blown away. They are just like us, only better.

The same might be said of horses also.

...and considering that, we may well find that we are the dumbest (least awake) of all the animal kingdom - I guess you would need battery slaves to be pretty dumb?

[Icare]

Dear Pyrangello,

I have read the whole thread so far and it was very emotional for me. I'm very sorry for your loss and after reading what kind of things Rylee would do to get your attention (and a biscuit), I think those things might well be her trying to let you know that she's okay.

And I think the episodes you all shared with us are a beautiful epitah for her.

And yes, I am absolutely sure you will see her again. The instructor at an astral trave workshop I once attended told us he actually met the canary he used to have. He said that little bird came flying towards him, sat on his shoulder, touched his cheek and then after a few minutes flew off again. He said that little experience while astral projecting was quite special to him.

When my cat died in my arm, aged 15, I was so distraught for a long time that I asked exactly the same question as you and I tried to find answers in books.
I have since read several books which gave me the reassurance I was looking for. I will see her again. She was very special, a bit like a dog. She used to play chase with me and instinctively knew when I would come home. Once my father was at my house to help with the garden and he told me she had run towards the door even before my car was in sight. During her last weeks she would never voluntarily leave my side (a bit like when she was a kitten), but she couldn't walk the stairs in the house any more, so she'd try one or two, then gave up and looked at me mournfully, willing me to carry her which I then did, of course.
When she died in my arms it felt like she wanted to come closer and closer to me, I told her how much I loved her and gently stroked her until she passed on. We buried her in my parents' garden and the feeling of loss was so intense I have never had another pet since. I don't think I can go through that kind of heart-ache again. I lost my best friend, my comforter whenever I was ill or sad. She always knew what was up with me emotionally and she couldn't stand me being sad, trying to cheer me up in different ways.

Talking about her helped me a bit after she was gone, so keep posting more episodes you have fond memories of, Rylee sounds like a very special dog.

Hugs,
Icare

[pyrangello]

Boy did this question travel in so many directions , thank you to everyone. As I post these pics of Rylee, first time ever I posted any pics but she deserved a found farewell. I would like to say that yes I kept gauging how she felt everyday, better, worse, the same, are meds helping her or not ect ect. I had a long conversation 30 years ago with a friend of mine who passed away from lymphoma . The discussion encompassed how individual people can be so selfish not to say no more hospital treatments for a loved one or making the decision of putting your dog or cat to sleep. How the selfish side of that individual was indeed the fact they did not themselves want to deal with the loss and instead kept the person or animal alive so they would not have to deal with this part of life. My mother did exactly the same thing with my grandmother and would not let her go when she made very clear if her quality of life got to a point of no quality, pull the treatment. I'll never forget my mom saying " I can't kill her". I digress.

When we were in the vets office for 20 minutes or so, I laid Rylee down on a comforter on the floor. Rylee just looked so exhausted and just layed her head straight forward and would glance up periodically. When the Doc came in, he shaved her back leg to put a port in and was having a very hard time finding a vein. After the 3rd try, Rylee lifted her head and looked back at him like " do you know what your doing , looked at me then laid her head back down in between her front paws looking forward. Even with all that poking around she never made a sound except for her last breath.

I brought Rylee home that evening and we put flowers around her and sat by the fire outside, by the end of the evening I iced her down and covered her with a blanket one final time before she made a trip to the crematory in the am. What a roller coaster ride of emotions this has been . I hope you like the pics, these were taken when she was probably around 8 or 9. She was still just as white on the day she passed away. I'll keep you posted on the light coming on at night and continue to watch this thread and learn as I always do here on Avalon. Thanks so much for all of the support!!!!!

[RunningDeer]

https://i.imgur.com/uHmmgk6.jpg
♡

[Valerie Villars]

Boy did this question travel in so many directions , thank you to everyone. As I post these pics of Rylee, first time ever I posted any pics but she deserved a found farewell. I would like to say that yes I kept gauging how she felt everyday, better, worse, the same, are meds helping her or not ect ect. I had a long conversation 30 years ago with a friend of mine who passed away from lymphoma . The discussion encompassed how individual people can be so selfish not to say no more hospital treatments for a loved one or making the decision of putting your dog or cat to sleep. How the selfish side of that individual was indeed the fact they did not themselves want to deal with the loss and instead kept the person or animal alive so they would not have to deal with this part of life. My mother did exactly the same thing with my grandmother and would not let her go when she made very clear if her quality of life got to a point of no quality, pull the treatment. I'll never forget my mom saying " I can't kill her". I digress.

When we were in the vets office for 20 minutes or so, I laid Rylee down on a comforter on the floor. Rylee just looked so exhausted and just layed her head straight forward and would glance up periodically. When the Doc came in, he shaved her back leg to put a port in and was having a very hard time finding a vein. After the 3rd try, Rylee lifted her head and looked back at him like " do you know what your doing , looked at me then laid her head back down in between her front paws looking forward. Even with all that poking around she never made a sound except for her last breath.

I brought Rylee home that evening and we put flowers around her and sat by the fire outside, by the end of the evening I iced her down and covered her with a blanket one final time before she made a trip to the crematory in the am. What a roller coaster ride of emotions this has been . I hope you like the pics, these were taken when she was probably around 8 or 9. She was still just as white on the day she passed away. I'll keep you posted on the light coming on at night and continue to watch this thread and learn as I always do here on Avalon. Thanks so much for all of the support!!!!!

Oh my gosh, she is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing her photos. She has a big grin on her face right now.

[Anchor]

Can your dog or cat that has passed away make contact with you from the hereafter?

In my direct experience - YES.


Since her passing we have had a small bottle go off the shelf and now every night a light is being turned on by itself while I am up reading or getting something to drink. It has been consistent for 5 days now every night. May I ask can this be her ?

It could be. It could also be a blend of you (and others) and her, thoughtforms are a bit strange.

You didn't ask, but I would offer this for consideration and hope I have not misread the situation: Let her go. Also please don't ever question your choice - it was made with the best and highest intent, your dog (or its "over-soul") will have respected this.

You may remember her and feel pangs of sadness for a long time, but it will get better. Let her go freely onto her next journey.


and will I see her again when its my time? Thank You

I am sure you will!

[Rhah]

Oh wow what a beauty! :sun: She looks very wise to me.



we may well find that we are the dumbest (least awake) of all the animal kingdom - I guess you would need battery slaves to be pretty dumb?
Except we are not part of the animal kingdom.


There is no amount of intellect on this earth that would ever convince me animals don't have feelings, emotions, intellect and a sense of humor. [...] They are just like us, only better.
Is that how you see yourself and the rest of humanity? As less than animal?
I realize that we are not currently displaying the greatness that we are capable of, but my goodness, that certainly doesn't make us less than animals, does it?
It has been some very evil and dangerous propaganda to make us believe that we're nothing but a bunch of animals. As believing so will naturally only lead to animalistic behaviour with no hope of ever surpassing it. How could one even imagine us getting out of this dire situation by believing that we are intrinsically, at our very nature, mere savage beasts? Capping the imagination is the ultimate form of mind control if you ask me.

Don't get me wrong, I think animals are wonderfully beautiful creatures that should be loved, cherished and well taken care of at all times, but I certainly don't consider myself - or any of my fellow human beings - to be lower on the evolutionary scale than my cat.


If you find another very young dog soon after your dog's death, the soul of your dead pet will move into the new puppy if you look for it. [..] The experts do not know. They think that animals have no feelings, no emotions, no soul, and cannot communicate with humans. All false.
I whoreheartedly agree that animals definitely do have feelings, emotions and are capable of communicating with us. But - and please correct me if I'm wrong - are you really saying that dogs are initially born soulless, and that you as its owner can command or conjure the soul of your previously deceased pet to inhabit this new living empty shell merely by willing it, regardless of the will of the actual soul itself? Forgive me, but that sounds an awful lot like necromancy to me if that were true.

I think we have to be very wary here that we do not think of truth as something relative or to consider ourselves to be our own arbiters of truth by simply picking and choosing whichever piece of information suits us the best and is the least confronting. This solipsistic "feel-good-and-ignore-everything-that's-negative" mentality that our well has been poisoned with is something we should steer clear of at all costs. Personal emotions do not, can not and will not ever affect truth.

[pyrangello]

Light is on this morning again,thanks for the animation running deer,very nice. Actually I love it. And yes anchor I realize the the letting go..Rylee thanks you for the compliments shah and Valerie. Good morning to all,

[Valerie Villars]

@Rhah.

Rhah I simply meant that they are more pure in their motives and stay in the moment. I should have clarified.

[Daughter of Time]

My answer as to whether animals visit us from the after life is a most definite "YES". I say this from personal experiences.

I had a cat I absolutely loved. He passed away very young (3 years old) from leukemia. It saddened me greatly. Years later he started to visit me, and always in a way I would know it was him. He used to know when it was bedtime as he watched me get ready for bed and waited by my bedroom door for me to give him permission to enter. Once I'd get into bed, I'd gesture for him to join me and he'd jump up to curl up beside me. Every time he visits me now, I feel the jump on my bed. It's palpable! I know it's him. And I'm tearful as I write this because he still comes around now and then and it always moves me. He comes with so much love and with gratitude for the love he received from me.

The other incident is even more proof for me. My mom used to have a cat that was so incredible I often wonder whether a kind human had inhabited that little animal. He was so affectionate and loving. He passed away of old age. While being put to sleep, he could barely move, but he stretched his paw and put it on my mom's hand to thank her for taking care of him. My mom was so incredibly moved that she cried for days. Anyhow, a few years ago, a friend of mine was terminally ill and one day I picked him up and brought him to my home for a meal which he couldn't eat. But later, when we were sitting on the sofa sipping some wine (that's all he wanted) he asked when I had acquired a cat! I told him I didn't have a cat. So he asked whose cat was the one on my lap. I asked him to describe the cat and he did. The description of the physicality of the cat, the movements, the gestures, and way he rubbed his head under my chin, etc., was a 100% description of my mom's cat!

My friend had never seen into the spirit world before but since he was close to death, the barrier between the 3D and the 4D worlds was being lifted and he could see but did not realize he was seeing into the spirit world. To him, the cat was as physical as I was. I told him which cat that was. He was astonished. My mom's cat had passed 10 years earlier. My friend died 10 days later!

That is proof enough for me!

Love and blessings!

Daughter of Time

[pyrangello]

WOW GREAT wonderful MOVING STORY daughter in time :)

[Icare]

WOW GREAT wonderful MOVING STORY daughter in time :)

I agree ,and that's just one more experience that proves our loves ones are still around afterwards, at least it does to me. And I find this very comforting.

By the way, Pyrangello, those pictures you posted are beautiful.

[waves]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.
Well, he's incorrect. :)

After closely studying and having a hard time finding flaws with physicist Tom Campbell's Theory of Everything, I'm also having a hard time letting go of the notion of reincarnation as an exact same soul identity on some journey of evolving through repeating, and the comfort of thinking there are ongoing loving relationships that were seemingly so meaningful in lifetimes that endure. It's so much lonelier than our romanticized constructs of enduring attachments.

Instead, all is information including ourselves and others that are creations of our mind to interact with, these 'avatars' dissipate at death though the 'experiences' and 'personality' of those individuated constructs can be reconstituted at will from the experience data accumulated/stored during that avatar's 'lifetime' as if still the person/creation we knew.

If reincarnation is true as generally characterized as above, then Tom Campbell is totally incorrect. I would be very interested to hear where you think Tom Campbell's reasoning is flawed.

Well, Tom Campbell says this:


“When you have been back to this virtual reality a few times you get nudged a lot by guidance. Each time you come back initially you know zero but after a many incarnations you will start to be nudged to remind you. Paranormal experiences will pop in your face to speed up your process and so, as you don’t lose the gains you made in previous lifetimes, an attempt is made to bring you back up to speed so you can get to the bit where you were at the last time.” - Dr. Tom Campbell, My Big T.O.E. (http://amzn.to/2duVMyR)
That sounds to me like he's most definitely referring to a single soul identity. And assuming so, he'd be right. :thumbsup:

I think Mr. Campbell deliberately avoids the word soul and refers to 'individuated units of consciousness' for specific reasons, I assume because our personality-based definition of soul isn't quite the same. "It's not that you have a soul that enters a physical body... that sort of thing.... you have a consciousness that acts within the constraints of that potential.. and those constraints can change depending on the choices you make."

But I was more trying to add to this thread's topic of reincarnation, and in that regard Tom clearly states that our so called relatives just plain don't really exist to interact with anymore in the next virtual reality, implying that the same goes for animals.

After comments like these in two sequential interviews, it still makes me ask who my friends, relatives and animals all were.. and I to them. His T.O.E. feels so mechanical despite his bottom line being that the love created, especially thru the things learned about love with relatives is THE factor that causes the 'entropy reduction' necessary for the 'individuated consciousness' to endure, learn and grow.

What Happens After We Die Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwvImf92XiA
8:03 "...When your body dies, you as consciousness start to forget the life you just led in the same way that you begin to forget a dream."
12:06 ".. if you have relatives that have passed on that you're particularly fond of, some of these relatives will appear to be there and greet you...... Now are they really your relatives? No, not really, they're just the larger consciousness system playing your relatives - and the larger consciousness system can do that very easily because it has all the data... it has all the experience... it has everything that was said, not said, that was felt, experienced, every emotion... all of that is in the database. The larger consciousness system can play that character very well..."

What Happens After We Die Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynIYXNiI8Q
37:35 " ...Your past life in that virtual reality starts to fade like a dream, you start to become aware that you're in this reality and pretty soon that physical reality's just kind of gone out of your mind and you're doing other things... why they distract you with relatives... and 'oh we've been waiting for you'... and all the rest of that nonsense is just to distract you and buy some time so that you'll let go of the last reality..."

[Foxie Loxie]

I must say, Rhah, your post was a little "unfeeling". If, indeed, everything in this universe is just a fractal of The Whole....your "truth" might be entirely different from someone else's "truth". :flower:

Actually, the more one learns, the more one realizes just how much one does NOT know! We cannot superimpose upon others what our own conclusions are as each person has had totally different life experiences. I think the "truth" is....we each construct our own "reality" & live within it.

At least, that is what life has taught me up to this point!! :o

[TomKat]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Most pets never heard of Meher Babaganoush and many reincarnate back into the life of their former owner. And some prove their identity to their owner.

[TomKat]

I believe the most accurate view on reincarnation was that of the late Brad Steiger, who said: If you are Joe, you will always be Joe, unless you reincarnate. You gain and drop traits with each lifetime. It's called evolution, and in this universe, nothing is exempt.

[Rhah]

I must say, Rhah, your post was a little "unfeeling".
Thank you for your comment Foxie Loxie :) My apologies to you and all if my post came across as "unfeeling", I can assure you that it certainly wasn't intended as such. Perhaps due to the lack of intonation and facial expressions, which unfortunately is unavoidable with this digital way of communicating, my comment was interpreted differently than it was intented. And I do apologize. Apart from stating a truism (that we humans aren't part of the animal kingdom), I was merely asking for clarification on the comments of each respective commenter that I quoted.


If, indeed, everything in this universe is just a fractal of The Whole....your "truth" might be entirely different from someone else's "truth". :flower:
I think the distinction should be made here between "objective truth" and one's "perception" of said "truth". Truth in itself - objective truth - cannot vary from person to person, it merely is, always has been and always will be. Only our perception of what truth is can vary from person to person. That I totally agree with. But that doesn't make it so. Because your perception of something can still be false. Sure, one might have made something part of their "reality" and has adjusted their life and personal philosophy to it accordingly, but that doesn't have any effect on whether it is actually true or not. They could still be believing in lies and falsehoods.


Actually, the more one learns, the more one realizes just how much one does NOT know!
I 100% agree. In the words of Socrates: "The only thing I know is that I know nothing." And that is exactly why I think it should be our lifelong quest to get to know, and live in accordance with, real, objective truth. And that we should therefore always be ready and willing to utter the three magic words, "I was wrong". For how else can we come to know truth?


We cannot superimpose upon others what our own conclusions are as each person has had totally different life experiences.
Oh no we certainly cannot. And I do hope that you didn't think I was intending to do just that with my previous post? I know I shared some information on the topic of this discussion earlier by quoting Manly P. Hall, but I was in no way insinuating that this was absolutely 100% true and that everyone should believe it to be so. My sole intention was to offer my personal perspective on the matter in the hopes of providing a piece of information that Pyrangello might resonate with and which would subsequently offer her some solace in her time of grief. Apart from that I consider my second post to be wholly seperate from the first. Also please note that throughout both my previous posts and this one I have been saying "I think", not "I think you should think", and I'm, naturally, perfectly ok with anyone disagreeing with anything that I say.


I think the "truth" is....we each construct our own "reality" & live within it.
While I totally respect your opinion, this, I'm afraid, is something that I wholeheartedly disagree with. Because what you're essentially saying is that there are no rules that we are all bound by when it comes to the truth. That one could effectively make one's own perception reality. That one could freely decide what is and isn't true. And that, I think, is very dangerous. Because if we were really capable of consciously "constructing" truth and reality, then that could mean that one could, for instance, create a reality for his or herself in which pedophilia in government is nonsense, a falsehood. Or, to put it differently, that for one who has never heard of it, the practice of pedophilia amongst government officials isn't actually happening (for how could they have constructed it to be real if they have never received this information?) Sure, one is always free to do that, but that doesn't change the fact that that, as we unfortunately all know, is reality. And when truth has become something relative, then that could very easily lead to morality also becoming relative. Because if we truly are the creators, or "constructors", of our reality, than who is to say that one couldn't make it so that the use of violence isn't a bad thing? If this person creates a reality for himself in which the use of violence is beneficial, then that could be that person's perception, but does that really make a difference to what the act of using violence really is? No, it doesn't. It is, always has been, and always will be, a negative act. That's the truth. So while we do, indeed, have all created our own perceptions of reality, we aren't actually each living inside these seperate perceptions - we are all living, together, in the very same true, objective reality. So no, I do not think we create our own truth. Truth just is, and all we can do is discover it.


At least, that is what life has taught me up to this point!! :o
My I kindly ask you how you have come to know that? And that is a genuine question.

All in all I would like to reiterate that the intentions behind my previous post weren't at all bad, but purely goodhearted. I merely wanted to warn against believing in things based on how we feel about them, rather than on logic and reasoning. Because, for example, (and I truly don't mean any offense to the original poster) believing in something as ludicrous as the idea that you can command the soul of your recently deceased pet to inhabit the body of another already born and living animal, something that clearly defies all logic and has no basis in reality, won't do you, or any one else, any good - for reasons I have explained above. You might like the idea of that being possible, it might make you feel good, but that doesn't make it so. It still is, and always will be, untrue. And addhering to falsehoods simply is in all cases unhealthy.

Now, my apologies for treading off-topic a little, but I felt I owed you, Foxie Loxie, a detailed explanation.

[pyrangello]

Do Dogs Have Souls?
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by Victoria A. Gardner

Do dogs have souls? A good question! Let me offer an answer from my perspective as a former professional dog breeder as well as a Spiritual Psychologist.

Of all the animals on this planet, dogs are the closest to human beings in their emotional responses and expression. Brain studies reveal that although apes, whales and dolphins have a cerebral cortex (the part of the brain where reason, judgment and other higher level thinking processes occur) similar to humans, dogs have a midbrain (the section where emotions occur) very similar, both structurally and functionally, to that of humans.

Studies show, and dog lovers know, that canines have the intellectual level of a child between one and four. They experience and exhibit attachment and bonding (or lack of), joy, contentment, security, fear, anxiety, jealousy, loneliness, depression, abandonment (separation anxiety) and learned helplessness. The psychological research on learned helplessness originally conducted on dogs was finally discontinued because it was so traumatic for the animals . . . and the researchers.

Most dogs, especially once they bond with a human, radiate energy from a perfectly developed and balanced solar plexus chakra. The perfection of the solar plexus chakra expresses itself through the dog’s unconditional love, devotion and loyalty. Dogs will sacrifice their lives for their beloved masters, and often die from grief if the human dies first.

The solar plexus chakra also expresses itself in the dog’s ability to balance the mood of the human being. For example, when people are sad or depressed, the dog helps them become happier; when people are anxious, agitated or angry, the dog calms them down.

Another example of an open and balanced solar plexus is the socio-emotional stability and validation people receive when the dog wags its tail and leaps with joy to see them. How many people greet you without criticism or condemnation, no pettiness, fussiness, opinions or judgments, and with complete forgiveness of past mistakes? Demonstrating unconditional love, dogs always start fresh and new, and see the best in you in the shining light of the moment.

It’s been said, “Animals have a way of filling spaces inside us we never knew were empty.” I know my dogs and cats have brought me unlimited emotional comfort and peace during my darkest moments. When the people in my life tired of all my misery and pain and complaining, my pets continued to listen, love me unconditionally, and give me the support and freedom to get through it. I believe the words of an anonymous writer, “Until one has loved an animal, one has not awakened to one’s soul.”

So back to the question, “Do dogs have souls?” There are some people who make me wonder if all humans have souls! Numerous studies in Spiritual Psychology show that dogs do indeed have souls, and once a dog bonds to a human, its soul attaches to the human’s soul and upon death, goes where the human soul goes. Indeed, thousands of people who have had a Near Death Experience (NDE) report being greeted in the Next Life by their beloved pets who have already crossed.

Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D., an expert on Consciousness and Spirituality and author of Orthomolecular Psychiatry, Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior, Truth vs. Falsehood and many other books, started out researching and measuring human consciousness and spirituality, and then expanded into animals and even plants. Believe it or not, his research shows that many pets have higher levels of consciousness and spirituality than some humans!

I’ll go one step further. I don’t know who wrote, “Dogs are angels with fur,” but it’s not an exaggeration. I have researched, studied, written about and worked with angels (beings which every religion in the world acknowledges), and found that it’s not unusual for guardian angels to manifest as a companion animal. I could cite more evidence that dogs have souls, but it would be redundant. Anyone who has ever loved a dog already knows that!

Dr. Victoria A. Gardner, aka Dr. Vickie, has a B.A. in Education with majors in Psychology, Sociology and Music; a Masters in Counseling; and a Doctorate in Spiritual Psychology and Wholistic Healing. A former professional dog breeder, she also has 40+ years’ experience in Psychology, Special Education, Grief/Trauma/PTSD Counseling, and Wholistic Healing.

I found this article last night wile I was at home, by the way while I was reading this that light that has been turning on every morning between 330 and 5 am for my hydroponic plants turned off while I was reading this and yes for the 7th day in a row it turned back on by itself again this morning :) .

There's a standing old joke out there , this is not intended to get any of the wife's angry at me so don't take it like that,

" If you put your dog in the trunk of your car and your wife and came back 2 hours later and opened the trunk, who do you think would be the most happiest to see you when you opened the trunk? "

The reality of that joke may truly be a learning lesson in that consciousness has nothing to do with how you feel when you opened the trunk door, but unconditional love has everything to do with how your dog felt when you opened the trunk, because that dog loves you, trusts you and believes in you. I would say your wife does to but maybe not at that point of opening the trunk, it may be grounds for a physical attack . lol. Just something to think about

[Foxie Loxie]

Rhah....Thanks for the good discussion! I can tell it would be interesting to sit & have a visit with you! :waving:

I, too, have muddled about in my mind about the pedo's. They seem to have created a "reality" which the rest of us cannot accept. If we start from the concept that we are all a fractal of The One, I think it follows that it would be natural not to WANT to hurt another human being; sort of an unwritten "truth".

Since we have Free Will, we CAN make choices. IMO, Ronald Bernard is a good example of doing just that. He was operating within the "top elite", living in their "reality". Apparently, what brought him to his senses was the point at which they asked him to sacrifice a child....that he could not do! He has now created a new "reality" for himself centered around helping others.:flower:

Another example....I have a very dear friend who has dedicated his entire life to traveling the world as a Creationist, staying within the "reality" of a 6,000 year old earth & never questioning the fact that The Bible might NOT be The Word of God. I spent 70 years within that framework; so I understand it.

So, I guess each person's "truth" is different....but at the same time there seems to be an overriding Universal Truth available to us if we seek it out. You'll have to forgive me, as I've only been at this for about 3 years! I was SO thankful to have been "led" to Avalon so I could explore a much wider way of thinking! :o

[Rhah]

Rhah....Thanks for the good discussion! I can tell it would be interesting to sit & have a visit with you! :waving:

I, too, have muddled about in my mind about the pedo's. They seem to have created a "reality" which the rest of us cannot accept. If we start from the concept that we are all a fractal of The One, I think it follows that it would be natural not to WANT to hurt another human being; sort of an unwritten "truth".

Since we have Free Will, we CAN make choices. IMO, Ronald Bernard is a good example of doing just that. He was operating within the "top elite", living in their "reality". Apparently, what brought him to his senses was the point at which they asked him to sacrifice a child....that he could not do! He has now created a new "reality" for himself centered around helping others.:flower:

Another example....I have a very dear friend who has dedicated his entire life to traveling the world as a Creationist, staying within the "reality" of a 6,000 year old earth & never questioning the fact that The Bible might NOT be The Word of God. I spent 70 years within that framework; so I understand it.

So, I guess each person's "truth" is different....but at the same time there seems to be an overriding Universal Truth available to us if we seek it out. You'll have to forgive me, as I've only been at this for about 3 years! I was SO thankful to have been "led" to Avalon so I could explore a much wider way of thinking! :o

Haha it would indeed! :bigsmile:

Thank you for bringing up Ronald Bernard, I think that's a wonderful example. In my eyes he arrived at a critical point in his life where he discovered a piece of truth that drastically changed his perception of the reality that he previously thought he lived in and that made him a different, better person. But I think that goes for many of us here. It does for me, at least.

And yes, those three magic words that I mentioned earlier can, for many, be the most difficult three words to ever utter to oneself. Luckily I'm still relatively young so it wasn't (and isn't, because I'm still forced to say them regularly) as difficult for me as I can imagine it is for those who have been living in this "matrix" for a much longer period of time. At a certain point it just become nearly impossible, and will take an incredible amount of willpower and courage to take that step. That you managed to do just that at the age of 70 is truly remarkable and I can honestly say that I have immense respect for that. :heart:

I also very much appreciate the term "universal truth", I like that. Very accurate.

I would thank you twice if I could! :bearhug:

[conk]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Well, he's incorrect. :)I vaguely remember a quote from Buddha, but cannot remember the context. To paraphrase, "...just be thankful you reincarnated as a human". The intimation certainly that not just humans reincarnate. The great Oneness likely seeks to experience itself in many different forms, over and over again.

[Valerie Villars]

I think we become what we give our care and attention to as we assimilate the characteristics of what we are drawn to and that all things and concepts originate from our original creator/source. We are free to ponder, play and embody whatever off shoots of original concepts as conceived in the beginning.

[Wind]

http://www.galloree.com/stock/artwork/large/14170/God-is-Simply-a-Dog-Looking-in-a-Mirror.jpg

[Michelle Marie]

My kitty, Saki-Beauty disappeared one year ago this month. I had her and her brother, Miso-Cutie, since they were kittens.

This week she was in my dreams! I'm taking that as a visit. I was so happy to see her!

MM :)

[Michelle Marie]

I really wanted to ask this, last week I had to make the decision to put my 15 yr,6 mo. old lab to sleep. She only had one good leg left, her bones were cracking when she moved and she wasn't getting up on her own anymore. Tough tough day taking her in and saying goodbye. Her AKC name was Rylee Rylee O'Rylee, and was she smart and did she push your buttons if you didn't pay attention to her. And I mean daily. Since her passing we have had a small bottle go off the shelf and now every night a light is being turned on by itself while I am up reading or getting something to drink. It has been consistent for 5 days now every night. May I ask can this be her ? and will I see her again when its my time? Thank You

I would say yes. My former golden retriever, Max, has made his presence known to me before.

Once when I was thinking of him, a big truck went by with a huge picture of a golden retriever on it. My heart told me this was confirmation. The feeling is love...an inner knowing I trust.

MM :happy dog:

[pyrangello]

Here is the little hydroponic tomato planter I have on the window sill, It has an LED lighting system to it that is plugged in with an on/off switch . This is what has been coming on by itself every morning between 330 and 500 since Rylee passed. Knowing Rylee and how much she always tried to get your attention daily I have very little doubt its not her. :sun: I took this photo this morning with and without the flash , it was not on at 3 am.

[Michelle Marie]

Here is the little hydroponic tomato planter I have on the window sill, It has an LED lighting system to it that is plugged in with an on/off switch . This is what has been coming on by itself every morning between 330 and 500 since Rylee passed. Knowing Rylee and how much she always tried to get your attention daily I have very little doubt its not her. :sun: I took this photo this morning with and without the flash , it was not on at 3 am.

Heartwarming...:heart:
MM

[Foxie Loxie]

Amazing, pyrangello!! How comforting for you!! These things our "unseen helpers" do astound us at times! :ROFL:

Rhah....Thank you for your kind words; it does a Grandma's heart good! I didn't realize you are so young! Wow! Your whole life ahead of you already possessing such knowledge as is available here on Avalon! :highfive:

Hug returned to you & one for phrangello as well!! :bearhug::bearhug:

[pyrangello]

So I took my other dog to the vet yesterday and her kidneys are on borrowed time, she lost 5 lbs in the last 2 weeks and her blood tests came back like the vet couldn't believe she was alive . So here we go again. This dogs name is Kappy, even in her condition she wagged her tail the entire time in the vets and even when they were drawing blood from her. Kindest, most gentle girl. Pushing 16. I've been carrying her outside everyday to go to the bathroom, she can walk back but that's about all. She is the black pup in the picture with rylee way back in this thread. Seems like everything happening in the world just doesn't seem important. I think your dogs , cats or other companions' are the closest thing to pure love an innocence besides only beating that is a newborn baby. Your companions don't know time, dates, or what a bill is, they don't care , all they want to do is spend time with you. :) Kind of a nice place to be isn't it.

[Matthew]

I feel for you pyrangello and love what you said about companions.

Growing up we always had dogs and cats. One was a golden retriever. A few days before mum passed away I was at her house (not the house we grew up in, and not a house the golden retriever ever knew) and I got the distinct sense and memory of this beloved pet and a sort of an idea of where they were, but it didn't linger. I'm not excited to admit it but I can't shake the feeling it was possibly our family dog from the hereafter.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's an interesting 2017 film: A Dog's Purpose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_(film)). The hero is a dog that reincarnates through a number of different doggie lifetimes, until (you can see this coming!) he eventually reconnects with his beloved master of old.

It left a few critics rather bemused, but it's lovely to see if one's a dog lover — or has ever lost a pet.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_%28film%29.jpg

[pyrangello]

Well yesterday at the end of the day we had to put are other lab/setter down, her name was Kappy. She was all of 16 years old and just down right the sweetest dog period. Her kidneys were failing and I have been carrying her outside to go to the bathroom at midnight, 5 am , ect ect. She could make it back to the house on her own with sometimes a little help , Kappy didn't eat any dog food for the last 2 weeks, she actually got catered to with chicken, beef and cookies, and some water with electrolytes. I think she was actually starting to enjoy the service she was getting but she was still dropping weight and the last thing I wanted her to go into was total kidney failure and all the repercussion's from that. So yesterday outside the vet we had her sitting on the grass in the sun, tail wagging and just happy. But when I sat her up her entire back end was curling under her as now she was loosing muscle mass. So I prepped myself for this journey and decision. Brought her into the vet and we spoke and you could sense a slight smell the septic on her from her kidneys failing. I decided to have her put to sleep. As the doc was putting the needle in her hind leg to shoot the sedative in , there she was wagging her tail just like always during the entire time he was administering the sedative. And Kappy kept wagging her tail until her very last breathe. What a tough decision this was? was it the right time? how much more discomfort until it takes a turn for the very worst and god forbid if it happens on a weekend when the vets are closed. And on and on. The vet said he had his own dog go thru this 20 years ago, said he waited too long and wish he never had. I guess realistically and practically it was the right thing to do but emotionally and with so much love you like to think that you want to give her as much time as possible right to the end. She had been having such a hard time walking with her hind legs but yesterday with her back end curling over told me things were getting worse and yes she was still loosing weight. Tough, tough , tough decision, and more tough was the goodbye as she was wagging her tail the entire time.............................................................

[onevoice]

pyrangello, I know what you are going through. I hope that time will heal your emotional wounds.

Initially in mid December of 2017, our beloved cat Fluke couldn't eat and started to lose weight. We spent countless trips to a very 24-hours clinic with veterinarian specialist doctors on staff through 2 biopsies and initially could not determine the cause of Fluke's deteriorating condition. Little over a week into the ordeal, the specialist clinic installed a esophageal feeding tube through which we could inject pureed food into Fluke. Months later we took him to another general veterinarian who after reviewing his medical history told us Fluke had terminal oral cancer, so only thing we could to was to feed him through the tube and give him pain killer jelly into his mouth. The ulceration under his tongue spread throughout his entire mouth, deformed his front teeth and even caused his right eye to go blind.

Throughout all this time, I researched and fed him all kinds of natural supplements to help Fluke, but nothing worked. Doctors didn't have any medicine to prescribe for him, other than pain management medicines. Despite feeding him maximum amount of food Fluke's doctor recommended through the tube 4-5 time daily, he continued to lose weight until he was skin and bones at the end.

In the last weeks of his life, Fluke was bleeding continuously from his mouth, so we had to wrap paper towel around his mouth to catch the blood. The blood would also run through the back of his throat as well. On the night of 4/13/18, we had the feeling that he might pass that night as he was really struggling to breathe. Around 1:45 am of 4/14/18 Fluke threw up his dinner and choked on it and eventually couldn't breathe anymore.

You may ask that toward the end why didn't we put him to sleep. Well we considered it, but my wife consulted her sister, who is an ordained Buddhist master. My wife's Buddhist master advised us that it was Fluke's karma to be in the condition he got into, and we needed to let nature take its course and not interfere. It was very painful emotionally for both of us to watch Fluke suffer so much until the end. As a Buddhist, we believe that all sentient beings reincarnate. And we believe that animals such as bugs, birds, reptiles and mammals are sentient beings. Our beliefs are not blind beliefs, they are based on enlightened masters who acquired firsthand knowledge to affirm our beliefs through over 2500 years of history and written down in many Buddhist scriptures passed down through the ages, starting with the original Shakyamuni Buddha.

It has been almost two months since our Fluke has passed away, and we still miss him very much.

[pyrangello]

One voice, I'm going to have to digest the Buddhist path that was taken , as I have not fully researched the budda , is there ever a time where growth of a species along with evolution and knowledge would play a role in decision making ? I'm sorry about your cat fluke ,I truly am. But my good friend who works for a crematory for deceased animals mainly cats and dogs stated to me it is the trust and unconditional love that these species put in us to make decisions for them as they cannot verbally talk to you about how they feel and what's going on with them and having access to advanced medical knowledge of their condition reinforces the decisions we make for them. Such as if you have a headache, you can just get in your car if you choose and drive and get some aspirins to relieve that pain where as your dog or cat cannot make that choice.

I'm certainly not beating my chest thinking how manly of a decision I made making the call of having kappy put to sleep. Far from it, for me personally it was a choice of emotional vs realistic. And the delicate balance of keeping her alive for my selfish reasons of me not wanting to deal with this vs. What is in her best interest for her not to suffer, not to go thru all the list of grueling issues of kidney failure like blindness, seizures, toxic septic poisoning internally. And when this could all be starting , almost as simple as when kappy could not stay up to go pee and just sat there and became soaked in urine. I gave her a bath afterwards and yes put a blanket on her for the shakes to get her warm. By doing so she thanked me with her eyes and tail wagging. If I had followed the Buddha if I am hearing you I would have not been allowed to bath her or put a blanket on her and just let karma happen ,let her get infected more and so what if she's cold,it's karma. May I ask you ,if your cat was bleeding according to Buddha and karma why would you wipe any blood away as are you not to interfere with the path of your cat or even take her to the vet? Seems to me with your cat you struggled with your own selfish beliefs vs the best choice for your fluke. One voice I do not say that in a mean and harsh way to you,please do not take it that way.

I am only presenting the question which is almost along the same lines as do we make the call to have your best friend put to sleep for their best interest or your own selfish interest which could entail your own belief system,you not wanting to grieve at this moment,or you want them around as long as you can possibly make that happen no matter what the cost. It's a very tough gauntlet to move thru personally. Even now as much as I knew of kappys condition and my decision I am still struggling with the selfish side of me wanting her here now and deflecting the grieving process vs her not suffering anymore. I am still struggling with this as i write this but i stand by my decision on behalf of kappy because she trusted me for 16 years to make decisions for her on what she ate, where she slept, and what quality of life she had during our journey together. With that she gave me unconditional love the entire 16 years.

[Anchor]

Tough, tough , tough decision, and more tough was the goodbye as she was wagging her tail the entire time.............................................................

Been there, I know your pain.

I am so sorry, you had to go through this again so soon.

[Chris]

Here's an interesting 2017 film: A Dog's Purpose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_(film)). The hero is a dog that reincarnates through a number of different doggie lifetimes, until (you can see this coming!) he eventually reconnects with his beloved master of old.

It left a few critics rather bemused, but it's lovely to see if one's a dog lover — or has ever lost a pet.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_%28film%29.jpg

Saw it, that was an absolutely lovely and uplifting film. Too few of those nowadays. I think it is generally accurate too, pets do have a special purpose in our lives, everybody who ever had a pet knows what I'm talking about.

I remember reading in the Law of One material that pets in effect get individuated when they get attached to human owners. This gives them an opportunity to move to a higher level of consciousness and they often transmigrate from animal to human souls in their next incarnation as a result.

David Wilcock claims that his cat contacted him in a dream a few years after it died to thank him and was now living in the body of a beautiful young girl. I have heard such stories from others as well, so it must be fairly common.

[dynamo]

About 4 years ago, we had to put our 13 yr.old Yorkie down due to a tumor that grew out of control.
It was one of the hardest decisions to make in my life but he was obviously suffering too much and having difficulty breathing.

Long story short, he was euthanized around 3:30pm.
Around 10pm that evening, I took our Shih-Tsu (she was around 5 years old at that time) out in the backyard to do her duty while I enjoyed a tea and thought about my now-lost Family member, best friend and companion.
Our Shih-Tsu gazed into my eyes, wanting to be lifted into my lap.
As I held and petted her, tears flowed out of her eyes..I mean like Niagara Falls!

I had never seen her tear before, especially to that extent.
At that moment, I realized that she was AWARE of what happened to the Yorkie!

For a few years, she was not as playful or as willing to go for walks as before her mate passed.
To this day, I still have lucid dreams quite frequently (perhaps a few times per month) of walking and playing with our beloved Yorkie!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The decision to end suffering is hard, but it sometimes is a better choice that to let the suffering continue.
Sometimes we treat our loved animals better than people we love.
I still talk every day to dogs who left 10 years ago. I thank them for sharing their life with me, for sharing the love, for sharing the laughter.
And the tears still flow. I notice that I am smiling. Tears of joy, not sorrow.
I wonder if they can visit or hear me.

[onevoice]

One voice, I'm going to have to digest the Buddhist path that was taken , as I have not fully researched the budda , is there ever a time where growth of a species along with evolution and knowledge would play a role in decision making ? I'm sorry about your cat fluke ,I truly am. But my good friend who works for a crematory for deceased animals mainly cats and dogs stated to me it is the trust and unconditional love that these species put in us to make decisions for them as they cannot verbally talk to you about how they feel and what's going on with them and having access to advanced medical knowledge of their condition reinforces the decisions we make for them. Such as if you have a headache, you can just get in your car if you choose and drive and get some aspirins to relieve that pain where as your dog or cat cannot make that choice.

pyrangello, perhaps I should have been more clear in my first post. First of all, I respect your decision to put down your two dogs to sleep, and in no way am I criticizing your decision or anyone else who also chooses to do so. Also our Buddhist belief does not mean to not interfere with whatever care you feel necessary to deliver to your pet. The Buddhist belief only means to not put your pet to sleep. My wife over 25 years ago had to put down her german shepherd dog on Thanksgiving day due to finding huge mass on the dog's abdomen. We had been keeping the dog at a friend's house, and when we took the dog to the vet, the vet said the dog has terminal cancer and there was not much we can do to help him. So we did put that dog to sleep.

Believe me, my wife and I both agonized over the decision to not interfere with Fluke's last days. It was very painful to watch him get progressively worse, he could barely walk, needed assistance to go to the litter, bleeding all day, wheezing, etc. Toward the end it was very difficult to let nature take its course and not interfere.

The decision to put the animal to sleep or not is one we all should personally make based on the particular circumstance, and I am not advocating that we should all follow what we did.

[pyrangello]

One voice, were good, but did you know the Delhi lama wears prescription glasses?

[onevoice]

One voice, were good, but did you know the Delhi lama wears prescription glasses?

I've always seen Dalai Llama with glasses on. I didn't get to meet him, but my wife and many close friends saw him get his honorary doctorate degree in Theology from the Florida International University in April 16, 1999. He has won other numerous awards:
https://www.dalailama.com/the-dalai-lama/events-and-awards/major-awards-and-honorary-conferments/award-honors-1957-1999

Despite the solemnity of the occasion, on that day in FIU, Dalai Lama was like a kid, giggling and playfully playing hide and seek upon the stage before the event officially started. Which indicated to me that Dalai Lama was communicating with us the importance of being in the moment in joy. His actions spoke louder than words.

There are three main branches of Buddhism: Theravada, Mahayana, and Vajrayana. Dalai Lama teaches the Vajrayana. I follow the Mahayana Buddhism, which is prevalent mostly in China and Taiwan. Although I don't follow the Vajrayana Buddhism, I have great respect for the Dalai Lama.

The Chinese Zen master Shen-yen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng-yen) that I've followed for almost 2 decades has passed away in February 3rd, 2009. He has written scholarly and pragmatic books that fill more than a book case. Despite being enlightened, he passed away due to renal failure. So enlightenment doesn't necessary mean that one can skip the death experience. However, he has vowed to reincarnate and come back to Mahayana Buddhism (specifically to the Dharma Drum Mountain organization that he founded) to continue to serve humanity.

If anyone is interested in understanding the differences between these main branches of Buddhism, here is a short summary of these branches:
http://www.important.ca/three_branches_of_buddhism.html

One popular misconception that many people have is that Buddhism is a religion. Quite the contrary, it is more of a philosophy, a practical educational system and a way of life that when practiced diligently can alleviate lot of mental suffering most of us experience in everyday life. To my knowledge, no one in the Mahayana Buddhism tradition worships any Buddha. Many Christians may think that we are idol worshipers. In our service, what may appear to be worship is actually paying homage, respecting Buddhas and being grateful for all their teachings. I would say Christianity has many statues and symbols and it could be said that some Christians worships idols as well.

In my view, any deity or supreme being that demands to be worshiped would have a big ego and conditional love, and therefore not in alignment with the true nature of the Cosmos.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's an interesting 2017 film: A Dog's Purpose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_(film)). The hero is a dog that reincarnates through a number of different doggie lifetimes, until (you can see this coming!) he eventually reconnects with his beloved master of old.

It left a few critics rather bemused, but it's lovely to see if one's a dog lover — or has ever lost a pet.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/A_Dog%27s_Purpose_%28film%29.jpg

I sent the movie just now to a friend who has recently lost her beloved dog. :flower:

For anyone who may be interested, here's the WeTransfer download link: (1.2Gb mp4 with subtitles, valid for 7 days)


https://we.tl/t-nUT5sz6bgN

[Patient]

It has been a tough spring/summer as we lost both our Boston Terrier earlier and recently our pig Chewy.

Still hard to even post about it - but almost everyone in the family had a dream about Chewy the night he passed.

Chewy was special to us and really connected - there were some strange things going on in the house in his last days. It was as if we were being called to his side with lights going off or on in the direction to where he was, strange sounds and even some animal toys seeming to suddenly move on their own.

I suspect that there were/are other entities here all the time. I had specifically asked for my animal spirit guides to be here for him. I guess they were.

I have had many pets but Chewy was something special. Nuf' said.

[Michel Leclerc]

Not quite the question you asked! But remember... animals reincarnate, too.

Yes Bill.
And people reincarnate into animals – to be close to their loved ones into the animals they have.
Partial reincarnation exists (into more persons than one), so they may also partially reincarnate into an animal.

Actually before we die we try and distribute our belongings to our loved ones, and after we die we watch over what they do with the inheritance meowing and barking.

[Michel Leclerc]

I can say with all honesty that I've had several of my furry friends make contact. (...) she is waiting for you when you cross, as are all the others. (...)

Thank you, Chelseab.

[onawah]

I have a psychic friend who is a "pet whisperer".
She's retired now, but used to talk to pets and they would tell her all kinds of things which she would relate back to their humans.
She said the pets would tell her lots of insightful things about their humans which would totally flabbergast the humans with the accuracy.
They would sometimes tell her about past lives when they were with the same owners, and past lives of their owners when the pets were with them as well.
So apparently it's very common for the same animal souls to spend many lifetimes with the same human, and to know them very well indeed.
She said they are not at all afraid of death, but they don't care for pain anymore than we do, so they are grateful if we assist in letting them go when their bodies are of no use to them any longer.
Animals are so much wiser than we give them credit for, and domesticated animals seem to be on a very different path than their wild brethren, being helpers to the human race.
They deserve our gratitude and devotion.

[Ravenlocke]

Hello Pyrangello,
I just found this thread, and I am truly sorry for your loss, and thank you for asking what I have asked so many times as well.
My deepest sympathies to everyone that have “lost” their wonderful, loving pets.

To answer the question, I believe so yes they do make contact after they pass, at least they have for me through dreams but my Willie, my cat came to visit me in the middle of the night, not a dream. I was wide awake and sitting on the couch in the livingroom. He “visited” me and stayed for almost 30 minutes. It was an experience I will never forget. There was a soft glowing light where he used to sit that I couldn’t tell where it came from. It didn’t come through the ceiling, and yet it shone to the floor even through a small table that was under the shining light. I even put my hand on the floor where it shone to see if it was real and there was no shadow. Willie was so beautiful and so energetic! What a striking difference it was to the Willie that had been ill before his passing. He even told me that “in setting him free he had freed me”. ( I had to put him to sleep, hardest thing to do..). I still tear up remembering this which is good because I never want to forget him. Wilie was a kitten rescue when I got him and he was only a 6 ounce baby kitten with a fever and an infection in his left eye. The vet told me he would die if he didn’t gain weight, and I bottle fed him for the first few weeks and was his surrogate mom. But he lived and grew to be a beautiful 18 pound white fluffy Maine coone with a black spot on his nose and a white streak in the black that looked like a tear running down from his eye. And he loved ice cream when he grew up!

Yes in my view animals are very special and knowing and a blessing to share their time with us.

This night episode happened within three weeks after he passed.

But a week before he came to visit me, my husband talked me into going to visit our favorite horse rescue ranch to try and cheer me up. So I reluctantly went with heavy sadness in my heart, I didn’t even notice or appreciate the beautiful countryside drive with the first colors of spring everywhere which I normally loved to see. Funny when we arrived there the place looked empty no one was around, nor any other visitors, but there was a “paint” horse in the coral near the parking area. As I got out of the car, the horse ( whose name I found out later was PJ) started whinnieing and beckoning me with his head and kept saying, “come here, come closer”. I was so surprised , I questioned what I heard and I turned to look sideways both ways, no one was there but me, my husband was sitting in the car.
So hesitantly I pointed my hand to my chest as in you mean me and PJ whinnied and said, “yes you, closer”. So I slowly walked up to the coral fence and PJ just laid his head on my shoulder and gave me the warmest, comforting hug and he said, “it’s going to be alright you’ll see”. I thought my heart was going to burst right there, and I couldn’t believe what I had just heard and felt. How could PJ who I had never seen before know about my Willie and my grief? ( I’m in tears as I write this….). I ran back to the car to tell my husband what had happened, I think I was in a stupor that whole afternoon but the grief felt different. I noticed the drive home, the sun was out, and I had a glimmer of hope even though I was still so sad and heartbroken. This incident took place almost two weeks before Willie came in the night to visit me.
The night he came I woke up around 2am and wide awake which is very unusual and because I was awake I got out of bed and went to sit on the couch, and I started thinking about Willie and then I noticed the soft glowing light. Then I saw Willie, he came, he was really there and he kept showing me how alive he was. I’ll never forget, it really helped ease my heartache. I feel blessed that I got to see him one last time and not sick but happy and beautiful and free! I hope one day I’ll get to see all the animals that I’ve loved in this lifetime and with Willie’s visit it gives me a comforting hope that I will see them again some day.

[Brigantia]

What amazing accounts there are on this thread.

I've already written here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59486-Pet-Reincarnation&p=1367889&viewfull=1#post1367889) about my cats Sammy, who died in 2020, and Freya who is still with us.

I was absolutely gutted when Sammy died, it was a visceral pain that lasted for weeks. It wasn't just losing an amazing cat with a huge personality, but he was my mum's cat before he came to us and that felt like a link to her that had gone.

A few days after he died I went to a yoga class. At the end, during savasana I fell into a deep state, and into my mind or consciousness, Sammy appeared to me in a shadowy form. He said to me, "There is no separation - only love".

Well, that was it - everyone else was deep in savasana, I was trying - not very well - to contain the sobs and tears. The yoga teacher asked me at the end if I was ok, so I told her what had happened.

The amazing thing is that Sammy appeared to me with two ears; he'd had an ear burnt off through cruelty when he was a kitten. His spirit form was whole again.

[TomKat]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Not even slightly rue. My cat PROVED it was the reincarnation of my previous cat. I really hate people writing books from theoretical or religious teachings. If you have no personal experience, then don't go writing books Baba Boomba! And it's not a great idea to go quoting these fake experts, either!

[onevoice]

Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Not even slightly rue. My cat PROVED it was the reincarnation of my previous cat. I really hate people writing books from theoretical or religious teachings. If you have no personal experience, then don't go writing books Baba Boomba! And it's not a great idea to go quoting these fake experts, either!

I also experienced our present cat was reincarnated from last life. Prior to him coming into our life for the 2nd time, we had several manifestation that he was contacting us. The first day he came into our life for 2nd time around, I knew instantly he was our previous cat. That afternoon, we played many games that only he and I played in his previous lifetime. So I'm quite certain that our cat reincarnated.

[Johnnycomelately]

I am glad to see this subject broached.

My avatar pic is of a ‘feral’ cat who I cared for, who disappeared after ~2 years. I called him Buddy. Pic was cropped from one of him gathered on my window sill ( ~10” above ground level), technically inside the room. I was not allowed to take him in, my rental sharing central heating with two other flats, concerns about allergies.

I don’t miss him, nor have curiosity about how things have been for him. Am only thankful for that relationship every time it comes to mind. Related: I once heard that souls can be bound to Earth by (at least in partial effect) the calling of (by) Earth-living ‘loving’ ones. And I have noticed that in reports of Earth-bound souls, ‘ghosts’, they are rarely if ever happy.

I have heard the expression “part soul”, meaning the essence of (what I call) a critter, who is IMO well on in their spiritual evolution to becoming what we are, the children of the unfolding creation/heaven. I’m willing to affirm the idea that cats can be that, feels right. Would make sense that they could reincarnate. Other critters, simpler ones like bugs, are said to be kind of a collective, part of a community-consciousness, not as individual in their identity or responsibility (yet with a true encompassing identity, like a being). The above-quoted Mr. Baba may have been refuting, too strongly, the Hindu idea that people can reincarnate as bugs or anything.




Bill
According to Meher Baba in God Speaks, reincarnation begins at the human level. Animals do not reincarnate.

Not even slightly rue. My cat PROVED it was the reincarnation of my previous cat. I really hate people writing books from theoretical or religious teachings. If you have no personal experience, then don't go writing books Baba Boomba! And it's not a great idea to go quoting these fake experts, either!

I also experienced our present cat was reincarnated from last life. Prior to him coming into our life for the 2nd time, we had several manifestation that he was contacting us. The first day he came into our life for 2nd time around, I knew instantly he was our previous cat. That afternoon, we played many games that only he and I played in his previous lifetime. So I'm quite certain that our cat reincarnated.