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ramus
10th May 2018, 12:55
Venus and Jupiter May Meddle With Earth’s Orbit and Climate


In 405,000-year cycles, the tug of nearby planets causes hotter summers, colder winters and drier droughts on our home planet

Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/venus-and-jupiter-change-earths-orbit-and-climate-405000-year-cycle-180969038/#TiF6DdDeB6KlsqIi.99


Astrologers have maintained for centuries that the position of the planets impact people’s personalities and emotions. And while this idea lacks scientific proof, it turns out that planetary alignments do affect some things on Earth. As George Dvorsky reports for Gizmodo, a new study presents the first physical evidence that the Venus’ and Jupiter’s gravity can cause shifts in Earth’s orbit—and swings in its climate—every 405,000 years.

Astronomers have long hypothesized that other planets in our solar system have impacts here on Earth, shifting its whirl around the sun from nearly circular to five percent elliptical. But they lacked much physical evidence of this process—and have long debated the particulars of the effects. The new study published in in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, demonstrates the influence of our planetary neighbor’s pull using a 1,500-foot rock core collected in 2013 from a butte in Arizona’s Petrified Forest National Park and cores from the site of ancient lake beds in New York and New Jersey.

Researchers noticed that lake sediment cores bear a regular pattern of ancient lakes drying up and refilling over the course of hundreds of thousands of years—a cycle that hints at cyclical changes in climate. However, they lacked the ability to precisely date those climatic shifts. The Arizona core, however, contain layers of ash from volcanic eruptions that could be dated because it contains radioisotopes.

The researchers aligned the Arizona core dates to the ancient lake cores using bands found in all of the cores, marking reversals in Earth’s magnetic fields. This allowed them to compare the records. The analysis demonstrated that the climate swings took place every 405,000 years for at least the last 215 million years, or through the Late Triassic age when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.

So why are Venus and Jupiter so influential on our orbit? Venus’s tug is so strong because it’s our closest planetary neighbor, approaching as close as 24 million miles. The sheer size of Jupiter—which is roughly 318 times as massive as Earth—means it also has an outsized pull on our planet. At the peak of that warped orbit, Earth undergoes hotter summers, colder winters as well as more intense periods of drought and wetness.

Knowing how this cycle works could impact on our understanding of past climate change and the arrival and disappearance of plant and animal species. “Scientists can now link changes in the climate, environment, dinosaurs, mammals and fossils around the world to this 405,000-year cycle in a very precise way,” lead author Dennis Kent, an expert in paleomagnetism at Columbia University and Rutgers tells Doyle Rice at USA Today. “The climate cycles are directly related to how the Earth orbits the sun and slight variations in sunlight reaching Earth lead to climate and ecological changes.”

The study is also important for the way the researchers dated the cores and presented a timeline of the geologic past, according to Steve Brusatte, a paleontologist at the University of Edinburgh, who was not involved in the work. In his discussion with Dvorsky, he calls the study “a tremendous piece of work.”

“It is a really important study for clarifying the Triassic timescale and untangling the sequence of events that occurred as Pangea began to split up and the dinosaurs originated and then diversified,” he tells Dvorsky. “It’s mostly a study of how to tell geological time rather than of how changes in climate relate to evolution.”

But the big question for most people is: Where are we currently on the Venus-Jupiter climate cycle and could their neighborly tug explain some of the changes in our climate? In a press release, Kent says we’re likely in the middle of the cycle when Earth’s orbit is almost circular. This means the swing is not causing climate disruptions. It’s most likely that any changes we are experiencing comes from outsized human input in the release of greenhouse gasses.

This could answer a lot of climate questions or cover-up for the real answers, food for thought.

Hervé
10th May 2018, 14:20
Best article I've read on that subject, so far, but for that "greenhouse gasses" plug at the end of it :)

The end result of the study is that geologists, paleontologists and archeologists now have a reliable chronometer which could be used to time-bracket events of the past few million years :)


Circular orbit

http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/geol102/study/Images/Eccentricity00.jpg


Elliptical orbits

http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/geol102/study/Images/Eccentricity06.jpg


http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/geol102/study/Images/Eccentricity08.jpg

https://planetplanetdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ellipse_diagram.png

Eccentricity

http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/GEOG101/Study/Images/Eccentrisity_1_ma.gif
The highest peaks/excentricity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles#Orbital_shape_(eccentricity)) of the Milankovitch cycles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles) correspond to the Venus + Jupiter pull

ramus
11th May 2018, 01:09
I think that there's a lot of equations that add up to the total . Happy to see alternative perspectives.

Cardillac
11th May 2018, 21:10
as our bodies are holistic (everything works in synchonisation) and our bodies are just smaller refections of the entire universe (the entire universe is holistic just like our tiny bodies) why shouldn't planetary orbits/positions, sun cycles, etc. not affect our bodies let alone our entire planet?

ljwheat
12th May 2018, 03:15
In reality, our solar system is like a slinky toy we played with as kids.. being pulled threw space by our sun , with the planets trailing behind in a cork screw orbit,, unlike the third grade model sitting on our teachers desk, stuck in our heads on an even plain. So this model dispels this and the old desk top model on the teachers desk, and planet a-lineament,,,, Draw a cir-cal in the air with your finger while walking backward , first person you see a cur-cal, in reality I watching you go by,,, its in a corkscrew never in the same spot one year later. and this is why the planets will never a-line, Sure the telescope's line of sight are a-lined. and we think of our solar system , like the rings around Saturn. We are dragged behind the Sun that is going around the Milky Way and never in the same spot in space un till we make that complete journey, But the Milky Way is all so moving away to who knows wear. ... and that mean our system , planets, sun, Milky Way, all heavenly body's are never in old space... Since this is new science, we reject it.

As Fare as global worming ? fake news and fake education is trying to bury the almost 90 + years of Ice core samples at the poles witch some have dates exposed back in time of this planets weather patterns going back billions of years,, doing your own research, may give you a better look at the present day fake data....just sayin.....