David Icke 2011

[humanalien]

Don't get your nose out of joint with Anthony, Tony, besides the fact that you have the same name, you are both valued posters here.
He wasn't having a shot at you, it is just his way of posting.
Besides that, I have a carrot surplus right now, not as much nuggetry on avalon as usual, so I have to get rid of some more. :p

You can send a couple of those my way. I was a bad boy. :Cry:

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Junebug .......What I like about David is he explains things in plain language and he is not afraid to call a spade a spade !! I think he is the main reason us 'common folk' are waking up to the extent of the deception the ruling classes have over us , although many more are joining in now he still has a big role to play imho.Cheers Steve

[sygh]

Steve, thanks for posting this interview. I agree with his assessment of the U.S. level of investigation -- it goes as far as the tangible (corrupt bankers and politicians, Wall Street, etc.) but fear prevents going beyond. I think the fear is tied up in a package with religion. We started with the Puritans, and it still has a deep hold on U.S. society. I know how hard it is to break free of this because I come from a Southern Baptist background.

But it's my hope that with leaders like David, truth will filter in and begin to wake people up.

Love overcomes fear, that and a whopping, guttorial howl. From my experience anyway. I think I might try that deep howl more often, in less physically threatening circumstances. Clear out the karma.
David Icke is most sincere, isn't he. I don't know all of his background, with regard to his first hand alien experience. How familiar is everyone else?

[Marianne]

Love overcomes fear, that and a whopping, guttorial howl.

Sygh, you are so right ... love does overcome fear! I have a sign on my nightstand that I hand lettered -- 'Love Prevails' I've never known it to fail me.

But wow, never tried that whopping guttorial howl ... but I'm loving the idea of it! Did you read Clarissa Estes 'Women Who Run With the Wolves'? It was the reason I took my first empowering steps.

All love,
Junebug

[Heyoka_11]

Please forgive my ignorance

G'day HA,

Well done for plucking up the courage to say what you have here. I understand your asking for forgiveness; I would do the same. But nonetheless, there is no need ask for it. You were not so much ignorant as you were simply unaware. That blog really does shed a clear light on DI's situation, and we can all make terribly inaccurate judgements when we are not in possession of the facts.

Perhaps even more important than financial assistance, is the assistance you can render by sending him good vibes, and asking that he receive all the on and off-planet help he requires.

Good on you! :)

[Heyoka_11]

Don't get your nose out of joint with Anthony, Tony, besides the fact that you have the same name, you are both valued posters here.
He wasn't having a shot at you, it is just his way of posting.
Besides that, I have a carrot surplus right now, not as much nuggetry on avalon as usual, so I have to get rid of some more. :p

Now Rob, surely that was not a carrotable offence, or has the surplus of said vegetable necessitated a wider net being cast in which to capture potential nuggets?

I have buttons too, and unfortunately KA managed, albeit unintentionally as I now understand, to push all the wrong ones.

Now I must away, as I have a fence to mend (with KA).

[ktlight]

We should all view this video. "He who controls information controls our sensibility."

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[Fred Steeves]

You can send a couple of those my way. I was a bad boy. :Cry:

Hey, don't sweat it...I was a naughty boy over the week-end and drew the rightful ire of my better half, many humble apologies were issued. :peep:I was a bad Fred...It happens...

Cheers,
Fred

[ktlight]

Iris scan researcher finds around 4% of 2300 eyes scanned to be of "reptilian type and appearance."

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[Heyoka_11]

G'day Everyone,

I have not posted one of David's newsletters on the forum before, but this is one which I think many members would enjoy reading.

Most DI newsletters cover issues which many here are well acquainted with, but here David focuses on himself, and the energetic shifts that he feels are now underway. It is easy reading, and I found it quite uplifting.

Mods: I understand that posts that are comprised of lengthy third party transcripts are discouraged, but I hope you find no problem with this. I have removed all graphics to save on space. :)


THE WORLD AWAKENS ...

... AND THIS IS JUST THE START

Hello all and greetings from 'Down Under',

It is more than 21 years now since I walked into the house of the psychic, Betty Shine, in March, 1990 and my world was turned asunder. Or, at least, it was soon going to be.

I was told that I would go out on a world stage to reveal great secrets - 'one man cannot change the world, but one man can communicate the message that can change the world', was one of Betty's lines for me that day.

I was utterly bewildered by it all. 'Me? I introduce the news and sport on television - what has all this got to do with me?' But something very deep and at the time unexplainable said 'go with it' and I have done so ever since as I have followed the synchronicity of life and the clues put before me. As a message through another psychic said at that the time:

'Arduous seeking is not necessary. The path is already mapped out. You only have to follow the clues ...We are guiding you along a set path.'

That is precisely how it has turned out to be. I have long since ceased to see my life as, well, a life. I see it as a job - something that I have come here to do. In a way, it's a bit like leaving home (wherever I 'came' from) to go to work and then returning 'home' when the job is done.

So when people say to me that I should have other things in my life besides what I do, I say, but I do have other things in my life, my eternity. What I am doing now is only a dot in that Infinity.

I don't 'come' from here, I come from forever. So do you, so does everyone and everything. I am just 'here' to do something and then I am going 'home' to forever. We all are.

It is strange, really. Betty Shine talked about 'They' wanting to communicate with me and 'They' just called themselves 'We'. You would think that I would want to know - even be obsessed by wanting to know' - who 'They' are.

But I haven't been. It all felt just so right and that was enough for me. I go where the music takes me - the symphony of knowing - and the rest takes care of itself, although I think I am heading for a point where I will know who 'They' are and their relationship to me.

Something big-time is changing within me now. I am entering a new phase and my energy field is going through a very tangible transformation. It is hard to put words to this at the moment, but I am not the same 'person' that I was even six months ago.

My awareness is shifting and I think the best way I can describe it is that my point of attention, or observation, of this reality is moving - and moving fast. I feel less and less focussed on this 'world', or this range of frequencies that we call the world.

I seem to be 'in' this world less and less and observing the world from beyond its vibrational walls more and more. I guess this has to be if more advanced information is to be accessed and communicated, because the greater understanding of what is happening here does not exist within five-sense reality or anywhere vibrationally close.

You have to get 'out there' to access that - or remember that. Yes, remember. What we call 'insight' or 'inspired thought' is actually expanding your conscious awareness into those realms that hold that information and knowing. It is less insight and more remembering what, at that level of awareness, we already know.

I am sitting at a table writing this in a hotel on the Gold Coast in Queensland where I speak this weekend. I have not been drinking, but it sort of feels that way. I am 'here', but not 'here'. I can tap the keys, but most of my awareness is some 'place' else.

It is a strange feeling, but far from unpleasant.

I started to feel 'different' around the early part of the spring around the time I was on a speaking tour to Germany, Rome, Sweden and Denmark. Everything became calmer somehow and slower. There was no rush about anything - like I was suddenly operating in a different 'time'-line.

I returned home in mid-May and the next day I sat down to write a new book in the small 'window' I had before heading out here to Australia and then on to New Zealand, the United States and Europe.

I spent at least six days a week researching and writing for 15 hours a day while my son, Jaymie, brought me food in so I didn't have to stop. That concentrated focus over so many hours every day certainly made something shift in itself; but what is happening to me is more than that.

I finished the book in early August and was immediately faced with two legal cases coming together at the same moment. One meant spending a lot of time and money for a court hearing that didn't happen in the end because the other party who was paying nothing in legal fees asked for an adjournment.

A mystery and obviously wealthy donor that I don't know yet - but I will - suddenly came in to pay for very expensive London lawyers to represent this person. Why? What is in it for the funder except to damage me and what I do as much as possible?

The second case involved me going through a big box of papers and documents relating to events that happened ten years ago.

Both of the above meant that I had no time to rest between finishing the book and getting on the plane to Australia to start the most gruelling speaking tour of my life.

I felt cheated with my rest time taken from me and frustrated and disgusted by the motivations of the people involved. But that, too, is part of the journey.

What we call human emotions like anger, resentment, frustration and so on are like ballast bags on a hot air balloon. They stop you flying to heights that you otherwise could and, if you are going to get there, they have to be released.

August and early September was very difficult for me. I was consumed by the frustration and disgust at what those involved in the legal cases were seeking to do for their own bile and benefit. One in particular, I felt, had taken self-obsession, greed and vindictiveness to still new depths of the cesspit while claiming to be the opposite.

But they were emotions that I had carried and suppressed with regard to these people for a long time and what happened, and is still happening, brought them to the surface where they could be dealt with and released.

An exhausted and frustrated man boarded the plane for the 24 hour journey from London to Perth, Australia, last week, but in the days that followed something has shifted very profoundly.

It was no coincidence that this transformation within me that started in the spring should coincide at this time with suppressed emotions coming to the surface where I had to deal with them.

The experience also gave me personal insight into how low-vibrational emotion holds humanity in vibrational servitude to the Control System. How humans are energetically enslaved by negative emotion became so blatantly obvious.

What has changed is not the legal cases, which go on as before with conclusions in 2012. No, what has changed is my 'relationship' with them. I don't care any more. Wipe hands - whatever.

Both cases together have the potential to be a 'perfect storm' that cleans me out of everything - but, you know, I don't care. Whatever happens, I will get up and get on with it as I did when another guy in America almost brought my work to an end through his mega theft and by putting my books in his own name.

It is part of the 'deal', really. Those who seek to access ever more expanded knowledge have to constantly expand their awareness - and that means they must accept experiences and deeply unpleasant people coming into their lives to ensure that all remnants of emotional baggage are released to allow maximum expansion of awareness. The message said:

'Arduous seeking is not necessary. The path is already mapped out. You only have to follow the clues ...We are guiding you along a set path.'

'The path is already mapped out ... We are guiding you along a set path.' Yes, the path necessary to impart and access advanced awareness and knowledge and the path necessary to clear out the human programs inherited and absorbed that would get in the way of accessing advanced awareness and knowledge.

As another message through Betty Shine said in 1990: 'The spiritual way is tough and no one makes it easy.' This is why. The baggage and attachment to the illusions of five-sense reality have to go.

When I arrived in Perth just over two weeks ago, I had a whole new nine-hour presentation to put together in the days before the event last weekend and, apart from an hour eating each day, I spent my time moving between the computer and the pillow in a sequence that continued throughout the daylight hours and still does.

This was not jetlag. I know what that feels like from long experience. This was very different. I would sleep from early evening to often mid-morning and still be tired all day. So much so that I would work for an hour or so and sleep for an hour or so and then have the mega sleep at night.

My dreams were vivid and my sleeps were coma-like, and they still are. Something is going on.

The last time anything like this has happened before was when I was in India in 2008 and slept day and night for days. That, too, was preceded by great emotional challenge when my arthritis became so bad I could hardly function.

The only way I could move at Heathrow airport on the way out was to shuffle my feet along the, thankfully, polished stone floor of the new Terminal Five. I couldn't lift my feet off the ground. I sat waiting until all the passengers had boarded the plane so I didn't have to stand up for long in the queue.

I was wondering how I was going to cope for eight hours with the limited legroom of economy, but when I handed over my boarding pass the man told me that I had been selected for an upgrade to business class. This meant that I could lie flat for virtually the entire journey. I cried I was so relieved.

The challenges come, but always in the background there is a force watching over and looking out for you. Those that seek to harm me, exploit me and bring me down would do well to remember that, but they won't - to their long-term cost.
Another Betty Shine message in 1990 has proved to be accurate again and again: 'He will face enormous opposition, but we will always be there to protect him.' The last chap who tried to destroy me and my work in court realised this fact too late, but they never learn.

Greed and red mist are powerful suppressors of clear and sensible thought. They don't see it coming until it's here. Do they really think that an operation for human emancipation which has been so long planned and involves multiple dimensions of reality is going to be allowed to fail because of them? It's hilarious.

I woke up last Saturday before dawn for an early start to the Perth event and I still felt very tired, but also surreal. I was going through the 'physical' motions of getting washed and dressed, but 'I' was somewhere else.

I drifted through the preparation at the venue, still in a kind of daze, but once I began I had all the energy I needed out of 'nowhere'. More than that, everything was different. I had experienced nothing like it before in all the years of public presentations.

I have been feeling the energy at the events becoming more powerful and profound for quite a time now - the event in Los Angeles earlier this year was when I first realised that something was tangibly changing and moving on.
But Perth was beyond that. First of all I talked for nine hours and at the end it seemed like no more than two. Where had the day gone? I heard Adam Davies, the excellent organiser of the Australia/New Zealand tour, say to the audience how quickly the day had passed.

I thought 'too right, mate, I know what you mean'. What just happened?

On the stage I was aware of everything going on around me, the images on the screen and all that, but 'I' was somewhere else looking 'in'. This 'place' was beyond 'time and space' and that is why 'time' did not register in five-sense reality as it normally would.

I also went into the 'zone' before the start of the event and never came out until an hour or so afterwards. I was in that 'place' throughout and when people came into the dressing room to ask me if I needed anything they were 'there' in the sense that I was aware of them, but not 'there' in the sense that I could really interact very well.

The experience was strange to say the least, but amazing.

The sequence has repeated since the Perth event. Long coma-like sleeps at night and mini coma-like sleeps throughout the day with a very big event in the Gold Coast happening the day before you read this. It will be interesting to see what happens.

The legal cases hardly pass through my mind anymore and won't except in moments when I need to deal with them. I know that there are forces at work far greater than the Control System and certainly infinitely greater than those who wish to exploit me and bring me down via the courts.

Thus, they will take their cause and effect, just as the last guy did. No one is immune from that in five-sense reality - that is what these people forget to their eventual cost.

From the perspective of this new 'place', I can also see more clearly than ever that the Control System is coming down and that the mass awakening I was told was coming in 1990 is affecting ever more people ever more powerfully.
The energy in the theatres has been the same in such diverse places as Los Angeles, Germany, Rome, Sweden, Denmark and now Perth because those in the audience are tapping into, and therefore generating, the energy of human transformation - the Truth Vibrations, as I call them.

The collective energy field in the theatres is now incredible - reality changing way beyond the confines of the venue because that energy field is interacting with the Earth energy field.

I probably felt this more in Perth than ever before because the 'vibe' is gathering in strength and number, and this is going to energetically dismantle the Control System, which is constructed from fear, anger, resentment, vindictiveness, greed and other such emotions.

You will find all of those emotions in the legal system which is the means of imposing such motivated outcomes on your targets; but no such emotion could be found in that theatre in Perth last week and, without that, the Control System cannot survive.

States of being like love, appreciation, caring and kindness are reckoned to be some 5,000 times more electromagnetically powerful than hate, vindictiveness, resentment and such like. This is the real revolution from which all else will come in terms of the individual and collective experience that we call the 'world'.
The answer was, and is, never 'out there', but always 'in here'. The Control System will go on its destructive, suppressive way for a while yet, but the dye is cast, the story energetically written. Its end is coming and those still attached to its emotional power base will reap the consequences of being so.

It is not about punishment, or goodies and baddies. Just choice.

Well, it's 3.30 in the afternoon and my eyes are struggling to stay open once again. Time for another coma, I guess. What is going on?

[Lord Sidious]

Mmmm, him too?
I have also felt those changes.
Thanks for that nugget.

[Cidersomerset]

THanks ..Heyoka...What a wonderfull human being David is......

This beautiful song and lyrics sums up his/our transformation....

0jsw_r0hILQ


Love .........Steve

[seko]

Lots of respect and love to this man, he is one in a million.

[Fred Steeves]

Thanks for bringing this to our attentionTony, that's getting to be a pretty common experience huh? Imagine how much more difficult and frustrating this is going to be for those who try to deceive people as wolves in sheep's clothing preaching love and light. You can't fake it any more, either the energetic connection is there, or it isn't.

Cheers,
Fred

[Samsara]

THanks ..Heyoka...What a wonderfull human being David is......

This beautiful song and lyrics sums up his/our transformation....

0jsw_r0hILQ


Love .........Steve

Just love this song... thank you ! IT IS a bright, sun shinny day !

Thank you Heyoka_11! I'm feeling it too....

[Heyoka_11]

Mmmm, him too?
I have also felt those changes.
Thanks for that nugget.

Hey Rob,

Actually, David was quoted as having said that the "changes" started for real, in Perth, on the day of the seminar last weekend.

Hmmmmmm..............I wonder if it was the triad of Avalonians in the audience that triggered it? Wait on, I was one of them :pound:

[Cidersomerset]

Yes Samsara it has been raining here this morning and the sun has just broken through and it looks to be a 'enchanting' day .....So I feel like following the 'Piper'

x36bGY08nAk

[Marianne]

A great post! I see David said the energetic shift came at the Perth event that Etheric Underground, DoubleHelix and Heyoki_11 attended.

David is a remarkable man, and I respect him more and more as time goes on. He has worked on our behalf all these years.

Seeing the newsletter reminds me that I intended to subscribe to it -- Tony, would you PM me the URL when you have a chance? This is too good to miss!
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UPDATE: Never mind, Tony -- I found it!

[Revere]

From my frame of reference I must say that is a beautiful description of living in the spirit as a "God relationship oriented" Christian. His experience is a beautiful description of many states of being mentioned in the Bible!

-Being in the world but not of the world
-The renewing of the mind to higher Godly principles
-Living in the peace of a higher calling not of this world
-Fearing not for all has been conquered
-Letting go and trusting in the higher power
-Loving your enemy and not descending to base emotions
-Knowing that we are here for but a short time
-Relying on God for inspiration and strength

I could go on and on. I realize that many have judged Chrtianity through the twisting of man and the event of organized religion. That is just another distortion of the PTB who use what they will for their base motives; greed, power, control, etc. I have been in the state described and it is nothing new for me. But it has always depended on me being in alignment with it. In the Bible it mentions that God will pour his spirit out on to the earth in a certain time and I believe that those of us who strive to be in alignment with His principles are experiencing this reality. Call it as you wish, vibration, growing ascension, Holy spirit. It is real and there. Seek (with a pure heart) and ye shall find!

Sorry, for the preaching if that is how you perceive it but, this is my reality of experience for many years. I am blessed and thankful to God for having a relationship with me through his spirit.

Peace to you All,

-R-

[shamanseeker]

For most people, the reptilian aspect of David's work is the hardest to get their heads around, myself included. I was unable to give this subject much credence at all, until David's alliance with Credo Mutwa. Whilst this may not have made a "believer" out of me, it did mean that scoffing at the idea was no longer an option. I had to rate it as "Plausible", as the Mythbusters sometimes do.

Can you please explain where you see Credo Mutwa fitting in here?[/QUOTE]

Hi, Reptilians do exist! I've seen a woman shapeshift. She used to boast that she was a direct descendent of the royal Stuart line. She said she was a doctor and I thought she was helping me sort out a serious health problem. It turned out she was trying to wreck my health instead. Won't go into the details. Then when I stood up to her on certain issues, she told me I was going to die in a threatening way. At that point I decided to cut off all contact with her. She passed in a car one day and she shapeshifted! (more amphibian than reptilian).

[Heyoka_11]

Sorry, for the preaching if that is how you perceive it

Hi Revere,

Now there's no need to be apologising here my friend, and thank you for your post.

There are many, many paths that all lead up the same mountain, and you are faithfully relating the experience you are having on your road. Maybe we'll bump into each along the way one day.

Best Wishes,

Tony. :)

[Morgaine]

This is very interesting to read of David's physical reactions to the energy at the moment. I myself have had to lay down and rest in the afternoons for the last week, which is highly unusual for me. On Saturday I was so tired I had to come home and have a sleep too at about 1 in the afternoon?! What I have experienced just recently is a strange change in my perception of time, some days go so fast I feel almost as if I was in some kind of trance, or others seem to last for days themselves. Also I have had incredible discussions with friends here in Avalon that have lasted for 4-5 hours and I have suddenly realised that, even though it felt like a lot less.
There does seem to be a noticeable change around right now, I've also experienced vivid memories with sound, scent and touch. Something I am really enjoying and also marveling at because a lot of them are from my childhood and it's almost as if I am back there sometimes.
I'm hoping to see David when he comes to Auckland in November, so if there are any Kiwi's who want to make it a group thing, let me know.

Thank You Heyoka,
Morgaine.

[Marianne]

Morgaine, I've had the sleep issues too! For 2-3 weeks, in the afternoon I almost can't keep my eyes open. A couple of times I've actually fallen asleep totally without meaning to, sitting at my desk at work... never ever had that happen. It's not that I've had a big lunch either -- usually have a green salad and sunflower seeds or something like that.

At home on the weekends, if I sit down in the afternoon, the next thing I know I'm waking up from a nap I hadn't intended to take.

Then at night, I fall asleep and sleep so soundly. Often wake up 'out of it' not knowing where I am or even who I am sometimes. I thought it was just old age creeping in :) Maybe it still is, but found it interesting to find you had the same thing.

[Niobe]

I really related to what he said about being less and less focused on this "world". I find that I have no interest in a lot of what is going on- I sometimes think I want to, but I just can't focus my attention on it. Even a lot of the NWO/Illuminati/PTB whatever stuff- a while ago I would have been sucked into all of it.
David is awesome and I really wish his Chicago stop would have happened on the US tour, like it was talked about at one point. I totally would have been there. Anyway, thanks for posting his newsletter :)

[jcocks]

Damn! I was going to go to the Perth David Icke seminar too - but totally forgot that it was on :( Nice to read that people are beginning to notice the change in energies. Somethings' definitely going on, and it'll be on a parabolic curve from now on in...

[mosquito]

If anyone wants to knowthe meaning of the word "perseverence", David Icke is the man to look at. I have tremendous admiration for him, the contribution he's making is staggering.
I've also been comatose virtually 24 hours a day for the last week, as ever, I just go with it.

Thanks Tony, as you said, it was an easy and uplifting read

[Mark]

A lotta folks talk a lotta noise about David and his reptilians, and I didn't pay attention to him for years for that reason, as I thought that anybody whose books were in all of the mainstream bookstores has got to be compromised. but I gotta say, this newsletter is quite indicative of his resonation toward service-to-others, for, perhaps what is, on my part, a selfish reason. I have experienced much the same, differing details of course, but the same general trends in experiential awakening and the resolution of emotional detritus - interspersed with marathon sleep sessions - over the past 7 months, in what seems to be the exact same order of occurrence. Thank you poster for sharing this wonderful and spirit-confirming newsletter.

[Heyoka_11]

Thank you poster for sharing this wonderful and spirit-confirming newsletter.

My pleasure Rahkyt, and thank you for taking the time to read it. WIth regards to the reptilian agenda, I used to have problems there as well, as did most folk. The change came when I saw David recently, and had to admit that this guy is actually receiving both on and off-planet assistance, in a very big way. I just can't imagine that he could end up talking a load of balony and any front. So, as I have posted elsewhere, whilst not being an out and out believer, I consider his beliefs on rep's etc. as plausible, if not actually highly probable. Sometimes I guess that seeing is believing, but even then........

Cheers,

Tony.

[jcocks]

The only part of his message I have any trouble with is him talking about a lot of people in power being reptilian shape-shifters. But I now realise that seeing that is more of a perception of the energies behind the people that is being perceived visually as the people in question changing into reptilians. Rather than them actually being reptilian shape-shifters, it is more that the energies that the people put off are reptilian in nature. As with so many of these types of perceptions, the human brain then puts a 3D "spin" on this, as its' the only way it can make any sense of the energetic information it is recieving.

[ViralSpiral]

Yes, jcocks, I agree about the perception of energies. It is afterall, all that we are.

When I first read Children of the Matrix, I was gob-smacked! But as the years went by and I recognised the illusion of our reality, I finally got what David was putting "out there". I, for one, am extremely grateful that he has "protection", whatever our perception of that is......

[Ernie Nemeth]

One could learn a thing or two from David. I heard a message for me...

Thanks Heyoka

[Eric J (Viking)]

Bless David Icke...He's so on the button...this wave is real folks, those who embrace it will rise with humanity...

From the Wogan show to where he is today...amazing...you cannot box light in...!

Thanks Heyoka for posting...

viking

[markoid]

A delightful read from such a resilient, dedicated warrior... thanks Heyoka

[Fred Steeves]

I, for one, am extremely grateful that he has "protection", whatever our perception of that is......

You know, I don't think that protection is unique to David. Anyone walking this planet who is here on a mission, and is doing their best at every level to stay on their path will be graced with this, atleast until it's mission complete...After that who cares, you'll be high fiving on the other side...:P

Cheers,
Fred

[friamin]

I haven't posted often but I do rather enjoy the free flow of the energy at Avalon and find myself enamored with some of the passion I see here. I just wanted to share David Ickes latest interview. Peace to all of you....Excuse me if this interview has been posted already..
Namaste

MWxu3Dtufxk

[apokalypse]

thanks alot!!!

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Fraimin I usually look out for his new interviews cheers..........Steve


Great explanation for the layman on how we are exploited by the elites , clear and precise.If
everyone in the world just closed their eyes and listened to this interview , everything would become clear and Polititions would really have some explaining to do !! and the corporate elites may be reigned in and brought before the world and exposed, as the evil blood sucking, wealth grabbing power crazy exscuses for humanity they really are.........

I think you get my point, its a good listen ......

[aranuk]

That's the first time I have heard of these patches that American scientists have on their bodies. This is sci-fi stuff happening today. I can hardly believe it. But I am trying to, just the same.

Stan

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I haven't posted often but I do rather enjoy the free flow of the energy at Avalon and find myself enamored with some of the passion I see here. I just wanted to share David Ickes latest interview. Peace to all of you....Excuse me if this interview has been posted already..
Namaste

MWxu3Dtufxk

Friamin you haven't posted often, I admit, but it is quality that counts with me not quantity!

Stan

[truth4me]

I don't believe everything David Icke says BUT I do believe about 98% of it.......

[Cidersomerset]

Thats about 98% more than most of our major leaders ....LOL

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks for posting this, I always like watching his vids.

[shamanseeker]

Credo is good in my book but not on the subject of Reptilians.

Thank you for your reply, and also your recommended reading.

Can I suggest reading an interview that took place back in 1999, between Credo and Rick Martin from The Spectrum (newspaper). It's fairly lengthy, but well worth the time taken to read. I would appreciate your feedback.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_credo_mutwa03.htm

It's late down here, so hopefully I will find a reply tomorrow morning.

Morning Heyoka!

Off topic so I'll be brief (although it is your topic):

That interview is an excellent source to see the real picture of Credo. Ty for the reccomendation, I think everyone should read it.

You have a guy who is an awesome story teller who really loves his country and is trying to get the outside world to see what is going on. After a long and well known career as an author in Africa, noone outside is listening. Then along come these Reptilians. In my opinion he is telling people what they want to hear so he can also slip in what he needs them to hear. The real plight of today's African nations.

The first thing he does is ask for the newspaper to send someone to Rwanda. There are no reptilians in Rwanda, just mass genocide.

He then does what he does and tells the guy the stories his audience want to hear so he can then talk about the real issues facing his people today. I had no idea about that king that got killed like Diana.

In terms of evidence for Reptilians, there is none. It's just myth and if someone tried to use our own native myths as proof (by taking them as literal accounts) they'd be ignored. We know they're symbolic. A person described with a reptilian tail is someone that has a character attribute symbolised by the reptilian tale. Most likey connected to earlier stories that explain where it comes from.

As these myths are new to us and come from a different culture, the suggestion is being made to take them literally and some seem to do just that. There is no evidence only stories and hearsay. He also connects himself with Sitchin even though most of us now know that Sitchin channelled his info and pretended to have translated it.

In terms of information about the real issues of Africa and also the mythology in it's own right (always useful to add a new set of symbols and see how people deal with the universal stories), it's a very rich interview and well worth everyone reading.

The irony is that the people who should learn about the mythology and real issues won't read it because it's stamped with Repto. The people who will read it are too busy seeing what they want to be there to take any notice of what is actually there and far more valuable to humanity than some idea of Reptilian Humanoids responsible for all the ills of mankind.

I still think Credo is awesome. =]



How can you be so sure that reptilians do not exist? The only people who really know if they exist or not are the ones who have seen them!!!

[777]

There has been a disturbance in the force, very real, very tangible and very welcome. I'm having the most intense dreams of my life. If I had to describe my recent mind/body/spirit state it's almost intoxicated on disattachment which manifests in a physical withdrawel into either sleep or a meditative (yet awake) state.

No diggedy doubt.

[Heyoka_11]

There has been a disturbance in the force, very real, very tangible and very welcome. I'm having the most intense dreams of my life. If I had to describe my recent mind/body/spirit state it's almost intoxicated on disattachment which manifests in a physical withdrawel into either sleep or a meditative (yet awake) state.

No diggedy doubt.

This is a truly marvelous time to be alive.

And we 'aint seen nothin' yet..............No diggedy doubt (love that!) :)

[transiten]

Well this "reptile stuff" has alienated me from Icke so i've been heavily into David Wilcock but now he seems to go in that direction also???
All the same we all have a "reptilian brain".

transiten

[ktlight]

David Icke - On The Road in Australia ... New Zealand ... the United States
... Europe - (World Tour 2011)

Yes..the real power.. it's in every single one of us!

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[Davidallany]

If I could give David Icke the remainder of my life I would. Thank you kt.

[Marianne]

Hi Transiten,

My interest veered off in another direction when you talked about our reptilian brain. Sorry, don't want to derail the thread, but now that you've mentioned it, I wanted to give some information to be sure everyone knows what the reptilian brain is. Nothing scary at all ... it's simply the part that forms first in the fetus, and is located at the stem of the brain.

Here are some websites with info, the latter three relate to aromatherapy because the sense of smell is associated with the limbic system within the reptilian brain:

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/This_is_Your_Brain_on_Fear.html
http://www.jeannerose.net/articles/smell_ability.html
http://www.suzannebovenizer.com/aromatherapy-essential-oils/the-limbic-system
http://aromatherapy4soul.com/stress.htm
Dr. Silvia Hartmann says:
Smell is the only one of our major senses that is not routed through the neo cortex and goes straight into the "reptilian brain" - the oldest parts of our brain, and the ones that have a lot to do with how we experience especially danger and stress.

Just thought I'd share since I have a strong interest in aromatherapy and learned about our reptilian brains when I first studied about essential oils.
It's not a scary thing at all, rather it's wonderful, and I'm glad you thought to mention it!
Thanks.

All love,
Marianne

[Heyoka_11]

Sorry, don't want to derail the thread

Hi Marianne, (Or should I say.............Doctor Junebug PhD)

At this thread is now in it's dotage, an occasional bump is most welcome, if only for the benefit of some who may as yet not have read DI's letter.

Please feel free to take the thread in any direction you fancy, including the neo-cortex. ;)

BTW, Did you know that whilst developing, the human heart passes through every evolutionary stage that the heart muscle in general has undergone, in all life forms that possess the organ? Perhaps our brains go through a similar developmental process? (quite likely)

[Marianne]

Hi Marianne, (Or should I say.............Doctor Junebug PhD)

...you'll be receiving my bill in the mail.



BTW, Did you know that whilst developing, the human heart passes through every evolutionary stage that the heart muscle in general has undergone, in all life forms that possess the organ? Perhaps our brains go through a similar developmental process? (quite likely)

I did not know that about the heart's development -- fascinating. I am still getting lined up to take the heartwall training that JoshuaM does -- so hearts are on my mind right now ... see how I fit them both so nicely into this post?

[Calz]

Hi Marianne, (Or should I say............. Doctor Junebug PhD)

...you'll be receiving my bill in the mail.



Not only is Dr. Junebug PHD really smart ...

.... drum roll please :drum: ...

... wait for it ...

she *smells* really good too!!!

:jester:

[Marianne]

Not only is Dr. Junebug PHD really smart ...

.... drum roll please :drum: ...

... wait for it ...

she *smells* really good too!!!

:jester:

Tee hee - you guys are a barrel of laughs! Hey, as a matter of fact, I DO smell good! Today I smell like neroli (orange blossom).

[Pete]

It's interesting to hear that so many of you are experiencing similar effects to David. that bodes very well for the surge in vibrational power.
My awakening has only just begun and I hope that I will experience the same effects soon.

I am so pleased that David is finally breaking through with his message and I thank him for his indomitable will, he has certainly proved his metal and I send him my heart felt thanks.

[Maia Gabrial]

Gotta love David Icke, his courage and fortitude.... He's one of the ones that helped me awaken....
I get the impression that he loves getting the message out there....

[Calz]

One of the most "gutsy" folks on the rock.

Have some of his books and dvds (amazing) but found his camelot interview particularly touching.

Like ... David Icke Unplugged ...

http://projectcamelot.org/david_icke.html

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTlight .......Great stuff....Cheers steve..

[Mandala]

Is anyone else experiencing the need for more sleep as David described? I, like him, am having the same type of experiences. Energy bursts and sheer exhaustion. I feel more detached than ever and really enjoy my alone time.

[Lord Sidious]

Is anyone else experiencing the need for more sleep as David described? I, like him, am having the same type of experiences. Energy bursts and sheer exhaustion. I feel more detached than ever and really enjoy my alone time.

It comes and goes for me.

[Calz]

Is anyone else experiencing the need for more sleep as David described? I, like him, am having the same type of experiences. Energy bursts and sheer exhaustion. I feel more detached than ever and really enjoy my alone time.

It comes and goes for me.

Work overnight shift then try to adjust on weekends to enjoy family time.

My body's "clock" is always messed up so no way for me to tell any differences from "incoming energies" beyond noting many others are reporting similar experiences.

[modwiz]

Spending most of my free time alone allows me to keep up with my inner work. I eat by myself as well. I am always reflecting and restructuring. Identifying the old and useless and finding the right place for the new. So although I sleep longer on days off I often work with 5 or 6 hours of sleep without a problem.

Like a computer, even the new is written, used and kept or discarded based on utility. Most people I work with socialize constantly, chatting away at every meal. They tell me this is how they unwind. Who am I to doubt them? I still wonder where they find the time to integrate all of that 'incoming' that is part of their 'socializing".

I will guess between his work and scheduling Icke gets little time for sorting and getting the 'downloads' I am sure he gets. Coma time allows both to happen for him. I will guess this is the case for many others as well.

[Sidney]

Is anyone else experiencing the need for more sleep as David described? I, like him, am having the same type of experiences. Energy bursts and sheer exhaustion. I feel more detached than ever and really enjoy my alone time.

I could not have said it better. So ditto ditto......(and headaches), strange "detatchment"

[jcocks]

Is anyone else experiencing the need for more sleep as David described? I, like him, am having the same type of experiences. Energy bursts and sheer exhaustion. I feel more detached than ever and really enjoy my alone time.

It comes and goes for me.

Work overnight shift then try to adjust on weekends to enjoy family time.

My body's "clock" is always messed up so no way for me to tell any differences from "incoming energies" beyond noting many others are reporting similar experiences.

Been there done that, will never do it again. (You do know the health risks associated with working shiftwork, don't you?)

There again, I'm up at all hours anyway, so my bodyclock is all over the place as well... (kids are often late to bed, so only time we have to ourselves is about 10:30/11pm onwards)

[Calz]

(You do know the health risks associated with working shiftwork, don't you?)

Yes but the perks of having access to Avalon with some free time to play is priceless :first:

[aranuk]

Talking about sleep, I need to sleep now. I find I manage on 14 hrs a day, it's easy. I am retired now and no need to get up with the alarm clock. Beddie byes now Av's. If I only have a meagre 10 hours I usually have some catnaps at odd times of day/evening. :o

Stan

[Marianne]

Talking about sleep, I need to sleep now. I find I manage on 14 hrs a day, it's easy. I am retired now and no need to get up with the alarm clock. Beddie byes now Av's. If I only have a meagre 10 hours I usually have some catnaps at odd times of day/evening. :o

Stan

Rest well, Stan. :)

[Davidallany]

David Icke and some volunteers are trying to find out who is paying for the expensive lawsuits against him, because the cases are too expensive for the people complainer to afford, despite the attempts to discover the hidden payor, David and his helpers still don't know. David is asking anyone who knows something to contact him, the link is on his website, under news.

[ktlight]

"With my eyes wide open , Id have to say David Icke is on the right track and everyone should listen to what he has to say.
commandorando123 6 days ago "

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[mahalall]

52.30 argh dear!

[Phoenix10]

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/54401-david-icke-this-world-is-utterly-insane

Apologies... I haven't worked out how to upload and display the actual video yet.

:sad:

[Calz]

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/54401-david-icke-this-world-is-utterly-insane

Apologies... I haven't worked out how to upload and display the actual video yet.

:sad:


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Giving someone a fish vs teaching them how to catch their own ... :fish2:

Notice the " v= " in the middle of the address of any youtube.

You want the text to the *right* of the " v= ", highlight it, then click on the "youtube" icon 2nd from right on top (need to be in "go advanced" to then view the results).

All there is to it.

Paul has documentation somewhere.

[Phoenix10]

Many thanks... much appreciated :o

[StateOfTheHeart]

Thoughts and feelings from anyone who attended one of his shows...?

[ktlight]

David has very few "theories" actually. Most of what he says is already either proven or goes FAR beyond circumstantial evidence.

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[Krullenjongen]

Thanks for posting KT!
I would have liked to see some more supportive evidence of this theory but i found it very informative.

[ktlight]

Thanks for posting KT!
I would have liked to see some more supportive evidence of this theory but i found it very informative.

You will find more in DI's books. He is very thorough.

[Cidersomerset]

Your right KTlight... David says hes a dot connecter/journalist and he tells all of us to check his sources all the time ,
good vid, I've seen it before but always worth a refresher cheers Steve

[Cidersomerset]

David in Australia sept 2011 ....A brief interview, still getting his message over.....

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Cheers Steve

[Davidallany]

Thank you Cidersomerset, it was another great interview, the host sounded awesome too. Keep it coming.

[<8>]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOC6-DUYFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rOC6-DUYFs

7 Oct 2011
Feature Length - 120 minutes. David Icke encapsulates humanity's current plight and how we can secure our freedom from the Hidden Hand behind global events.

Tens of millions of people across the globe are now turning to David Icke's extraordinary information as the world he has predicted in his books and talks is becoming part of our daily experience. We are seeing the pages of George Orwell's novel, 1984, turning by the hour as what he calls the Big Brother surveillance State expands towards its goal of a global fascist dictatorship. David Icke has spent virtualy 20 years researching in more than 45 countries and uncovering the cabal of interbreeding families behind this agenda for human enslavement and their goals and methods of operation and manipulation. If you want to know what is really happening in your world, and why, this presentation by David Icke is not to be missed. Your freedom and that of your children and grandchildren could well depend upon it.

[truth4me]

Every time I watch a David Icke video I pick up on something new. I will bookmark this for later viewing.

[ktlight]

"Anybody wonder where 50,000 or so David Icke videos have gone??

A week ago if you searched David Icke on youtube you`d get about 75.000 results..now it`s about 27,000???

Or how `David Icke debunked` ha bloody ha...by Agent White..just happens to be ranked at number 4th most relevent Icke video of all time on googletube...despite being one of the most disliked videos I have ever seen on here.
jay4louise2 1 day ago"

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[Omni]

"Anybody wonder where 50,000 or so David Icke videos have gone??

A week ago if you searched David Icke on youtube you`d get about 75.000 results..now it`s about 27,000???



Interesting. If you hear more about this plz post it.

Thanks.

[Trinity]

I love David, I really do, but I dislike it when there is too much me me me...

Sorry..

T

[Chucky]

Hi everyone. Quite a while ago I posted a comment about how my son here was packing his bags after booking a ticket to see David Icke in Melbourne on tour. He was excited but I was a little sad as I coudn't really go myself. We are from Adelaide SA so I wished him the best for when the time came to go see him.

I believe in Synchronicitys more each day now especially with what just happenend only 10 hours ago. Long story short my son emailed me a couple weeks back singing the song Dad, Dad, David Icke has posted on the net he is coming to Adelaide. Well I was on it like a fish onto and piece of bait. My son even asked if I could get him another ticket to go with me so I jumped to it. Got them with in half an hour of the email.

Shortly after this took place and I realised my hopes were definately starting to come together now, especially since I could finally see David Icke myself my son calls me with more news. He says Dad Dad guess what. I am volunteering to help with David Ickes staff when he comes to Adelaide. Well I almost fell off my chair and of course there were conditions now. I had to have my son there far earlier so he can assist in setting things up for the event. Wow I said what next?? Just coudn't believe this was happening and gooing so fast. Just within hours of getting my tickets.

Well things are taking shape and now I am in a spot of trouble because you see I have a bad back. Sitting too long really brings me grief and I need to be able to get up and move about and of course everyone knows David Icke is a soldier with his information. He gives it all from the start to finish so I was very concerned about my endurence to be able to listen to him when he arrives.

Then the ideas pored in to me. I emailed my son and asked for the number of the girl in charge of helping David Icke on his tour. She quickly called me back that day and accepted my proposal to help. This would allow me to help them and my son. Also allow me to move about freely to assist people. Why not I said. My long day of just sitting there jumping around on a small chair in agony to here David now began to become a huge and longer day so I though lets be practical here so I jioned my sons team.. lol

Well David Icke has been and is on his way to Melbourne and I wished them all the success. The minute the team arrive early morning yesterday David Icke was standing there with a big smile and a hand shake for all of us and the big thank you for helping. I even got a picture of him with my son. Great pic too. Amasing I guess thins were mean't to be and to top it off when it finally finished I even got to say Hi to him with the crew and I even had my picture taken with David too. I must say my hat goes off to him. He was so tired and he was still so happy to talk and meet people. Incredible and I must say it was a treat and an Honour to shake his hand. Thank you David Icke for the work he has tirelessly committed to for all of us.

Thats it for me for now and I want to thank the team here for there dedication to getting the truth out. I must say the Awakening has already begun.. Best Wishes to All out there.. Chucky

PS: As I waited to sneek in to see David someone else was waiting to see him too. I knew the face and remember some of an interview of him. I kicked myself after because it was Goerge Kavassilas. I just coudn't get his name out. I waited for him but he stopped for a chat with David as he was getting ready to leave himself back to the hotel so I said to my son I hope we run into him again because his story is amasing too. Synchronicitys !!! My day was full of them... Great Day!! :)

Hope you like the pics everyone. If you get a chance to meet David you will know yourself he is a gentleman and truely a soldier for the people with the truths about waking us up...!

Also I am booked in for another seminar and this one I have been told should raise my eye brows again too. November next so my son now has a partner in helping with getting the truth out there!! I am proud of him beyond belief... Thanks to you Hayden, Son.

[Ascension]

Wow, what an absolutely wonderful thing to happen. I'm so thrilled for you. :dance:

[Chucky]

Thanks Ascension. I must say my friend that Adelaide is classed as the boring state here in Asutralia and many were disappointed that we were over looked for another good event but things changed so quick and this is what happened. I tell ya it is amasing. Thanks again mate. Chucky

[Billy]

I love the saying, What's for you, won't go by you.
Nice one Chucky

[Heyoka_11]

G'day Everyone,

Here is today's David Icke Newsletter (Sunday, the 16th of October, 2011)

I am sure that many of you will enjoy reading David's opinion on the current wave of "occupations" that we are witnessing around the globe.

There is little doubt that these protests are a huge step in the right direction, but according to David, they are best seen in a far broader perspective than that delivered by the main stream media (as we all know too well). According to David, there is a real possibilty that what we are now witnessing in the West, may result in little more than has been achieved in the Middle East; that being a stenghtening of the tyrannical grip on power on the part of the very institutions that the protests are calling for the overthrow of.

Unlike the last DI newsletter that I posted, this is not intended to be an exercise in light reading. For those who go the distance though, the information may well provide you with the opportunity to more fully understand, and hence critique, events as they unfold in the coming weeks and months.

Two videos are referenced, and you'll find them below the newsletter.

Best Wishes to All,

Tony. :)




THE FIRST STREETWISE REVOLUTION? ...


... OR ANOTHER FALSE AND MANIPULATED DAWN?



It's Time to Choose



Hello all,


So from the 'Arab Spring' that wasn't to the 'American Fall' that isn't yet and maybe won't be at all. The fork in the road beckons for those involved in the Wall Street protest and others around America and the wider world to decide what it will be.


The word is streetwise; the word is informed; the word is awake.


Those who don't know the game or are assets and manipulators of the game will want to form organising and 'representative' committees to lead the 'leaderless' masses and take endorsements from special interest groups eager for the public attention of the protestors to work for them.


Those who don't know the game or are assets and manipulators of the game will want to 'endorse' people and organisations they say they support in cleaning up America - but they will be the very people and groups that are systematically destroying America.


Those who know at least something of the game will endorse no one and be endorsed by no one, and will have no one speak for them collectively. They will use their time and their platform to expose a system that is rotten to the core and corrupt to its fingertips in the till.


They will make the case individually - and cumulatively collectively - that the system does not need to be tinkered with or even fundamentally changed (on the surface). They will point out that the whole bloody lot must go ... starting with ...


1. An end to creating money out of thin air on computer screens and charging interest on it (fractional reserve lending).


2. An end to governments borrowing fresh-air money called 'credit' from private banks and the people paying interest on this 'money' that has never, does not and will never exist. Governments (and that concept must change radically) can create their own currency - interest free.


3. An end to private banks issuing non-existent money called 'credit' at all and thus creating 'money' as a debt from the very start.


4. An end to casinos like Wall Street and the City of London betting mercilessly on the financial and commodity markets with the lives of billions around the world.


5. An end to all professional lobby groups that earn their living and their clients' living from corrupting the professionally corruptible - vast numbers of world politicians and the overwhelming majority on Capitol Hill.


6. An end to no-contract government in which mendacious politicians can promise the people they will do this and that to win their support and then do the very opposite after they have lied themselves into office (see Obama).


7. An end to the centralisation of power in all areas of our lives and a start to diversifying power to communities to decide their own lives and thus ensure there are too many points of decision making for any cabal to centrally control.


That is just for starters. There is so much more where that came from. What good will come from rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic? NONE. The banking system as we know it does not need to be 'changed' - it needs to be gone.


It is a criminal activity based on fraud, extortion and, through its effect, on worldwide mass murder. Its replacement needs to be decided by the population - not the very people who created it in the first place and are covertly manipulating a new global structure of financial control based on a world central bank.


Ain't that right, Mr Rothschild, Mr Rockefeller, Mr Soros? The tail is not wagging the dog - the tail is wagging the elephant so many are there in servitude to the few.


Any 'protest', any 'change' or 'revolution' not founded on the above - at the very least the above - has got no chance of changing anything. These very pillars of the system must fall or they will block any transformation of the human condition.


How many protests and so-called 'revolutions' have there been throughout history that have actually changed anything at all for the better? There will be the odd limited exception, but most have just replaced one form of tyranny with another.


Look at the 'Russian Revolution' that replaced tyranny by the Tsars with tyranny by the sheer evil that was Soviet Communism. How could it be any other way when this 'peoples' revolution' was funded by the House of Rothschild via it's American banks like Kuhn, Loeb headed by a member of the same German Schiff family that once shared the Rothschild house in Frankfurt?


Look at the 'American Revolution' in which overt control of Americans from Britain and Europe was replaced by covert control of Americans from Britain and Europe via mere political puppets in what became the United States.


This continues to this day.


The English 'revolution' or 'civil war' exchanged royal tyranny with tyranny by 'man of the people' Oliver Cromwell who was followed by more royal and 'democratic' tyranny.


The 'Orange Revolution' in the Ukraine in 2004 threw out a president with mass demonstrations on the streets and a few years later that same man was elected back into the presidency where he still remains.


What has the 'peoples' revolution' changed in Egypt? Nothing. And the NATO 'revolution' in Libya that has just filled the cities with dead and mutilated bodies and hijacked the biggest oil reserves in Africa and Libya's semi-independent banking system?


My God, what did the 'people’s revolution' in China, led by Freemason and Cabal front man, Chairman Mao, do for the 'freedom' and 'emancipation' of the population?


On and on it goes.


'Revolution' is so often just a word meaning Cabal-manipulated 'regime change'. I have highlighted and exposed how the 'peoples revolutions' in Ukraine, Georgia and the Czech Republic were covertly directed by the network of Rothschild bagman billionaire, George Soros, most especially through his organisations like the Open Society Institute and the International Crisis Group.


The latter involves Soros buddy and fellow 'revolutionary', the former US National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who has admitted funding and training 'freedom fighters' in Afghanistan to draw the Soviet Union into an invasion and occupation of the country to protect its satellite government in Kabul between 1979 and 1989.


Brzezinski said that he wanted to give the Soviet Union 'their Vietnam' and he did - at the cost of a million Afghan lives. His 'freedom fighters' (he calls them 'terrorists' today) morphed into the mujahedeen and the Taliban that Brzezinski's creation, Barack Obama, and his predecessor, Boy George Bush, have spent trillions fighting for a decade.


I have exposed in these newsletters how the Soros-Brzezinski International Crisis Group was heavily involved in the US-Israel-driven 'peoples revolution' in Egypt during which Mohamed El-Baradei, a board member of the International Crisis Group, was despatched to Cairo to become a 'leader' of the 'revolution' and is now pledged to stand for president.


The Soros-Brzezinski 'method' is to covertly train agents’ provocateur to trigger mass protests by harnessing the genuine and understandable resentment of the people at their treatment by the incumbent regime or economic system (usually controlled, funded and armed by the very families that Soros and Brzezinski represent).


Under the cover of this 'spontaneous' protest, the Cabal's agents and gofers take over the running of the 'revolution' and guide its direction to the end that their masters set out to achieve from the start. This is precisely what happened in Egypt, for example.


A major training centre for these 'spontaneous revolutionaries' is based in Serbia and this was behind what happened in Tunisia and Egypt. It is also clearly involved in what is happening in Wall Street.



The Serbian operation plays out through Applied Nonviolent Action and Strategies CANVAS), headed by Srdja Popovic, and Otpor! ('Resistance!') which Popovic established with his associate, Ivan Marovic, who has turned up at the Wall Street protests (see the video later in this newsletter). CANVAS and Otpor! work as one and they often use the symbol of the fist for the 'revolutionary' groups they train.




Otpor! was funded by the United States and the Soros network to theoretically overthrow the Yugoslavia regime of Slobodan Milosevic in 2000 (the mass NATO bombing helped just a little bit) and has continued its revolutionary work along with CANVAS in many other countries since that time funded by bloodline front organisations.




Egyptian revolutionaries like Mohamed Adel of the April 6 Youth Movement (with its fist symbol) were trained by CANVAS in Serbia and flown to the United States in 2008 to meet US officials in New York. It was all pre-planned and not 'spontaneous' at all.




Otpor! and CANVAS are now moving in on nations in the 'West', especially the United States. If these people, or any associates, are involved in your protest or 'revolution', it is NOT a 'revolution'. It is Cabal manipulated.




Why would the Rothschilds and the rest of their bloodline network want a mass global protest against the banking system which they created and purposely crashed in 2008? This is where protestors who have not done the research or read the work of those who have are potentially babes-in-arms in all this.




First point for such people to understand: this whole deal is not essentially about money as a first priority, but about mass human control using the vehicle of money to achieve that. Wealth is a natural outcome of control and so control is the goal and money is the consequence of control.




The second point is that the Rothschild network wants to impose a global system in which governments (a single world government) and corporations will be one and the same. They call it fascism. The aim is not to control almost everything and everyone - but to control everything and everyone.



We have seen the incessant deleting of the division between corporations (in truth one corporation under many names) and governments. The corporations increasingly are the governments, and certainly more powerful and influential than governments, and this fact is generating a great deal of the reaction from people in terms of protests.


The bloodline families want to see an official fusion of governments and corporations to the point where they are the same global structure of world government controlling everything that corporations currently do and with the corporations turned into official agencies of government.


You would have the World Ministry of Oil, World Ministry of Biotech, World Ministry of Food, World Ministry of 'Health', and so on; instead of being departments of government deciding policy in these areas - they would be the policy in these areas and control everything that happened with regard to them worldwide.


To achieve this, the present situation has to change quite dramatically. Yes, corporations are imposing their will upon governments ever more blatantly, but for the structure-obsessed, hierarchy-obsessed Illuminati families it is still fragmented and open to exposure and challenge.


This is where the mass protests come in if they are not streetwise and knowledgeable about the game. The idea is to manipulate the perception of the protestors, or dictate events through 'representative' cliques and 'committees', to get them to demand precisely what the Cabal wants to happen.


In the short-term this means supporting people like the bankster's man Obama and such like as representatives of the people against the corporations and bankers (what a joke); but longer term to manipulate them to demand the apparent takeover of the corporations by government sold to the population under the banner of 'people power'.



All that would happen, however, is that those running the corporations would become those running the World Government structure that absorbed the corporations. This structure would be underpinned by a fiercely and brutally imposed police state which would ban any protest against the structure they have been working towards all along.




That is why I say that the choice is now stark as people take to the streets in ever greater numbers: a streetwise revolution or another false dawn that leads to even worse than we have now.



There are some good signs - like seeing the Fox [Fix] News anchor, 'Geraldo', walking away from the Wall Street protest amid a chant of 'Fox News lies'. But I would be even more buoyed if the same happened to MSNBC anchors who bag-carry for the Democrats as Fox News does for the Republicans.


If Michael Moore is their hero, then they are in real trouble, because the guy just plies his trade to exploit the illusory Republican-Democrat divide. Indeed, Michael Moore personifies the delusion that there is a difference between the two parties - or at least I hope he does it because of delusion and not for some other motive.


If the vast majority of global protestors do not understand that they live in one-party states masquerading as free societies and political choice, then their efforts are doomed to be in vain.


Many clearly don't understand this as we saw when a guy speaking at a 'protest' in San Diego was booed when he said that American wars abroad were justified by 9/11 which was a false-flag event orchestrated by the US government. Protestors? Go home and get informed, my friends, because until you do you are wasting your time.
Then there was the extraordinary sight of a 'protest' in Atlanta conducted like the worst kind of lower-grade school class using classic mind control techniques. See the 'Zombie Training' video down below. WTF? They want 'freedom'??


This became even more sinister when an independent journalist was prevented by 'protestors' (leaders of the 'leaderless protest') from filming precisely the same Zombie-repeating deal in Washington DC - see video after this article. Clearly there is some sort of coordinated mass mind-control operation underway here.


Freedom is a mind - a consciousness, a view, a perception - that is yours uniquely and not some program downloaded for you to follow like a bloody computer terminal.


The good thing about Wall Street-type protests is that they are a step on from one day marches and then go home to continue life as usual. They are continuous, occupy a space, and so cross the line from a mere here-today-gone-tomorrow protest into a form of non-compliance and non-cooperation.


Another really encouraging aspect is the numbers that they are attracting. It is an expression of the global awakening even if it has not reached the streetwise stage yet for many people.


But it is absolutely vital that they don't allow themselves to be corralled and hijacked, and taken over by agents of the system they are there to challenge - that includes the Democratic Party-controlled unions that supposed to represent their members, but invariably don't.


One of the union leaders vocal in his support of the Wall Street campaign is Stuart Appelbaum (Rothschild Zionist), president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union and president of the Jewish Labor Committee. He sang the praises of the Wall Street crowds after returning from Tunisia where he has been 'advising' workers there after their CANVAS and Otpor!-engineered 'revolution'.


He told the media:


'The labor movement needs to tap into the energy and learn from them ... They are reaching a lot of people and exciting a lot of people that the labor movement has been struggling to reach for years.'


And there was me thinking that this was about what is best for the people - not the unions who are merely an arm of the Democratic Party, which is an arm of the system in total. Any genuine protest against the structure of mass control needs to stay well clear of people like this guy.


The same goes for Bill McKibben, creator of the 'climate change' propaganda front, 350.org, which is based on the mendacious claims of the now thoroughly-discredited James E. Hansen from the bloodline-controlled NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and an adjunct professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at bloodline-controlled Columbia University.
McKibben is now urging his 350.org suckers to use the Wall Street and offshoot protests to press the case for a massive and completely unnecessary restructuring of global society (here we go) to 'fight' a 'problem' that doesn't exist.


Or, to quote 350.org:


'We now face exciting questions: what can we all do to support and expand this groundswell? And how might Occupy Wall Street's amazing energy further embolden the climate movement?'
'What climate change means is that we have to do this on a deadline. This time our movement cannot get distracted, divided, burned out or swept away by events. This time we have to succeed.
And I'm not talking about regulating the banks and increasing taxes on the rich, though that's important. I am talking about changing the underlying values that govern our society.'


Yet again ... here we go. There is a multi-levelled scam going on here and the protestors need urgently to get informed or they will fall for it and that will be a disaster for them and everyone else. Obama is now indicating that he supports the protests - good for his run for a second term in 2012 when this bankers' moll who lies for a living will claim to be 'on their side'.


They are all at it and it is so blatant to anyone who knows how the game is played. There are some encouraging things happening, but there is such a long way to go yet.


I will be interested to see for myself at close range when I get to New York next month and I'll let you know what I find.


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[norman]

OMG!...................

I've only just noticed this hive chorus method the 'protesters' are using to talk.

It totally creeps me out.

Something is seriously wrong with all this.

[truth4me]

OMG!...................

I've only just noticed this hive chorus method the 'protesters' are using to talk.

It totally creeps me out.

Something is seriously wrong with all this.Your right that is creepy....real creepy......you could very well be right that something is wrong.

[Lisab]

Thats fantastic Chucky and thanks for lettiing us know. x

[Chucky]

Another picture of my son with David Icke signing his book I bought him for a present awhile ago. You can see it isn't the best picture for David as PR material but for me I could see and I was concerned for his health for he was totally buggered after his talking. When I thanked him and asked for a pic for me with him he started to stand and I put my hand out an said quickly no mate. Sit down you need to rest a little for the energy to rise again. He laughed and said great stuff basically and then said to me good point you kneel down next to me my knees don't like it. I laughed back and said it'll help my sore back too. God I felt like he did but he did all the work and believe me he deserved to sit down and relax after a well overtime talk. Incredible and I'll say it again. My hats off to you David Icke don't stop the message. We are listening and we are growing at an incredible rate too. All my best...Chuck

[Phoenix]

OMG!...................

I've only just noticed this hive chorus method the 'protesters' are using to talk.

It totally creeps me out.

Something is seriously wrong with all this.Your right that is creepy....real creepy......you could very well be right that something is wrong.

It's weird, I agree.. but it's actually very useful in certain situations. Yesterday, while marching towards Times Square with thousands and thousands of people, multiple attempts were made by the NYPD to split us up and cause confusion. At these moments, the scene in the front of the march that people were experiencing could be relayed really fast down the march using this technique.

Then, for example, while in Times Square, people would help each other by relaying the National Lawyers Guild phone number to call if you were arrested, using this tactic. Without this tactic, it'd be impossible to get certain key messages out to thousands of people in a few seconds.

I do understand your worries though.

-Phoenix

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Most importantly, I think David Icke is on the right track, and that video at the end of the newsletter identifies some covert actions...

So what are some possible solutions to the problems presented?

[norman]

Most importantly, I think David Icke is on the right track, and that video at the end of the newsletter identifies some covert actions...

So what are some possible solutions to the problems presented?



We have to be clear about where they are trying to steer us with this.

The march of the jackboots has a left foot and a right foot. We have to break their stride and trip them up. Hopping on one foot might slow them down but it won't completely stop them. They have to completely lose their balance and fall face down in the gravel.

Right now, it's clear to me that they are attempting to encourage anyone with a tendency towards 'socialistic' control freakery, in the guise of a well sold need for super regulatory powers to span a global economic "wild west".

This is a sneaky trick, because their own plans require just such a framework to be slipped into place just as they take down the last remnants of what used to be their old 'flat world' tyrannies of convenience. All this while they 'ply maximum pressure on all national governments to comply with the rediculously satirical "Popular Will" ( jeez - these guys have been laughing at us!).

In short, if you are a youngster out there in the crowds, do your best to restrict the PTBs efforts to shuffle the 'socialists' to the fore and gain traction ahead of the general awakening that a wider population needs more time to achive in a propper balanced way for a better outcome of this stand off stage.

I hope that doesn't sound too cryptic. I struggled with most of that.

[jjjones]

Heyoka 11 & Tony, the letter from David was phenomenal ! Your kindness to share the letter and videos is much appreciated and respected. may the people of the world who are privileged to read your thread, enjoy and become more aware of the enlightenment shared. There are many wolves in sheep's clothing out there trying to lure the unaware into their den of entrapment/control. Hopefully many eyes, ears and hearts will subjected to a great awareness and understanding through this perceptive information. Namaste, Peace and Love Universally. :)

[Niobe]

That is awesome- so excited for you! Nice photos too :) Always love the colorful shirts that David wears. He will be in NYC the day after I leave from my visit there- so bummed I will miss him, but it's a work trip for me and I can't afford to stay in the city another day as it would come out of my purse and not the company's. :P

Thanks for sharing your story and the pix!

[Andre]

I do hope David's views are disseminated among the occupiers. I'm on another continent, so I can't do it. At the same time, it's probably a good idea not to disseminate his 7 points because the media may claim it is a list of demands. Once they have a "list" they are then in a position to "respond" and thus put their proverbial spin on the whole thing.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I like david icke a lot but i've never read any of his books. I am also very interested in the subject of satanic ritual abuse. I have always found david's presentations on the subject to be informative. like the arizona wilder material. can anyone recommend the david icke book where he deals with this subject the most?

[lslimerick]

I think if you read his last book, its is all his lifes work and then some - Human Race get off your knees - he covers everything, so not just abuse, so if that is what you are looking for, then this isnt the book, if you are looking for the whole picture, this is it...

[sojorner]

I just found this video that I thought might be of interest. David Icke addressing the issues of OWS.

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Enjoy

Soj

[ExomatrixTV]

~David Icke take on 'Occupy Revolution' [HD] Wall Street part of Giant Ponzi Scheme Fiat Money System:

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source video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAnnZlsOSlY)

[ThePythonicCow]

I just found this video that I thought might be of interest. David Icke addressing the issues of OWS.


~David Icke take on 'Occupy Revolution' [HD] Wall Street part of Giant Ponzi Scheme Fiat Money System:

We had two different threads started, with two different Youtube videos of what seems to be the same talk of David Icke.

I have merged the two threads. They were posted within one minute of each other :).

:) :cow: :)

[apokalypse]

oh my ^&@*ing god, David Ick spot on..thank you very much...we need more video like to educate other people who still fall asleep. spread these kind of video around.

[Fred Steeves]

Absolutely brilliant! Looks like David's taking his game to a whole new level. Thank you sojorner and ExomatrixTV for bringing this to our attention.

Cheers,
Fred

[apokalypse]

David Ick is spot on everything...

for few weeks now i'm telling people consider what they want the future on planet earth to be and take the driver seat, if we do not they manipulate make this Occupy protest the Revolution thing into the new system of current system or Federal Reserve 2.0. we Awaken but we must Aware, if we not aware they manipulated us agian back to new version of current system and society. we can't let them replace version 2.0 of current system.

[ThePythonicCow]

Yes - this one is quite good. He's explaining the monetary system and the problems we face better than I expected.

[TWINCANS]

As I said a bit ago, the OWS movement will prove to be the most dangerous thing we have seen, UNLESS David Icke runs it. IMHO.

(Love that wake up call to the environmentalist b...s...)

[Cidersomerset]

Great vid David has been saying this for years , He explains it in 'laymans' language that all can understand if they listen ......Cheers Steve

[ktlight]

PLEASE NOTE THE TITLE

"Anyone who can laugh at the death of someone has no humanity within their hearts."

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[ktlight]

"How not to be scammed by those you are protesting against.

Call it Capitalism, Corporatism,cabal-ism or Cartel-ism it matters not, its all the same thing designed by the same small group of elitists. COMPETITION and DIVERSITY is the ONLY way in which we can live our lives with JUSTICE and EQUALITY at its core.

I fear however that the mass has lost or never will have the appetite to challenge the Status quo. I fear that we are on an inevitable road to Centralisation and bureaucratic dictatorships. ALL POLITICIANS must NOW BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
Veloce3 1 hour ago"

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[ktlight]

"This one is important! Thanks Jay! Self work is so essential! Doing the thing we feel and know is right.
XStreet1985 34 minutes ago"

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[PathWalker]

David Icke is softening the angry tone and transforming to awakened person.
He was angry and fear mongering for long time. No more.
He is optimistic and grateful. On the public media.

Yet his site is full of hate mongering.

[shamanseeker]

I wouldn't say it is hate mongering. He is just letting people know what the situation in the world is. If they don't know, how can they change it?

[TWINCANS]

I so like this type of straight talk from Icke on issues right in front of us. He's mellowed into a real elder stateman imo.

[Calz]

I so like this type of straight talk from Icke on issues right in front of us. He's mellowed into a real elder stateman imo.

Agreed.

I find it interesting that despite how many youtubes and articles ... he really holds my attention and has my deepest respect for what he went through over the years to *finally* find a receptive audience.

How many of us would have such perseverance???

How many of us get shut down with a single negative post???

To you David :yo:

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTlight ..powerfull stuff, I have no remorse at the removal of dictators, but revenge murder is another thing. Yes if it was my family that had been killed by Saddam, Gaddaffi

Bush, Blaire or Obama I would want retribution , but that is what law is for.I know the law has always been subverted towards the powerfull and money buys 'Justice'

But this must stop....At the momment the masses are asleep but stiring....Violence is what the 'Elite' want they thrive off it financially and probably 'Vampiricly'

Awake and arise to mind control, see the Alex jones piece put up on subliminal messaging and the Darren Brown Assassination experiment is essential viewning....

Protests are fine , but we need a way to expose them like in the film 'They Live'....Steve

[THIRDEYE]

this is a national atrocity...i wonder if the usa and nato had fabricated the crimes that gadaffi has killed 6000 of its own poeple...what gives us the right to invade a soverign nation like libya.....who is the usa to orchestrate these wars and war crimes...they call it africom..the us wants too run the world...one of these days we will go into some kind of war situation and there will be a price to pay..who made us the world police?????we should just mind our own bussiness and help countries with famine ...not to mention famine in our own country...this whole usa agendas make me sick to my stomach..the western cabal need to stop these war crines....light love and abundance...thirdeye....

[Amysenthia]

I will be attending his lecture in Cleveland, Ohio on November 12, 2011, (That is if 11-11-11 prophecy about that being a catastrophe day isn't true). Maybe some of the other Avalon members that live nearby can attend. Just wanted to make people aware about an appearance of his that is coming up if you want to hear more about this.

[vibrations]

When we are speaking about dictators, well, this is all s..t. Every leader of every country is a dictator, some of them are showing this more openly, some not. But we are listening MSM and making our conclusions from there. wrong. All the MSM is in the hands of a few who are dictators of this (local) dictators. Obama, responsible for millions of deaths he didn't stop when he step in as a president, Brown, the same sort of murderer as his predecessors, Sarkozy, ugly smurf with lethal evel incorporated, to number just few of them. The thing is, we are making mistake to trust even a small bit to this assassins, creations with no emotional response, with no any ethical and moral base. The only way is denied them, ignoring them, clear their image from our brain, forgetting that they exist, because if we not, we want to end them with violence. And not be violent is the only thing that differentiate us from them.

All the presidents are guilty for sending any soldier on any war. I mean exact personal responsibility in front of the Universe, his own spiritual path or whatever you wanna call it. Everybody in a command chain who passes the command for an violent action to an subordinate is equally guilty. Anyone who execute any violent act is equally guilty. Doesn't matter if it's military or police, scientist or any other instrument of a dictatorship. They are also people, a lot of them good ones, but with a lack of awareness. Rejecting them as a humans doing atrocities, we can show them, that the new society does not accept this kind of behavior.

The person who believe in political parties is a part of that guilt. Hoping to better the society allowing (with their support to a party, any party at all) the party leaders to share their evil with the country leaders.

What we saw in that David's video is the lowest possible expression of the darkest part of humanity. And maybe the most ugly of all sequences is the Hillary's image, involved in millions and millions of innocent deaths.

And then people is asking me why am I hating so much every institutional expression. This video tells you why.

[laughs-last]

The murder of one human diminishes the all. To kill another is a tool of power, the power of life or death of another is a control. Judgement is not for man, or rather absolute justice. I can't help feeling that gadaffi would never have stood on trial, for fear he would reveal uncomfortable truths that the PTHW would rather have kept unsaid. Humanity is only humanity if it applies to all of us, otherwise it loses its value; our lives in this world, of mankind, are not from our own hand and thus we have no authority to impliment such actions as murder. Murder and killing are never justifiable, and until we understand such we are trapped in a vicious cycle of hate, fear and negativity. We all started as someones child, someones daughter, someones son; we often forget that on the way.

ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and BEING HUMAN :jester:

[vibrations]

The murder of one human diminishes the all. To kill another is a tool of power, the power of life or death of another is a control. Judgement is not for man, or rather absolute justice. I can't help feeling that gadaffi would never have stood on trial, for fear he would reveal uncomfortable truths that the PTHW would rather have kept unsaid. Humanity is only humanity if it applies to all of us, otherwise it loses its value; our lives in this world, of mankind, are not from our own hand and thus we have no authority to impliment such actions as murder. Murder and killing are never justifiable, and until we understand such we are trapped in a vicious cycle of hate, fear and negativity. We all started as someones child, someones daughter, someones son; we often forget that on the way.

ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and BEING HUMAN :jester:

Off course. they do this on a way that looks like "it just happened, nobody was able to stop it" and in reality everything to the deepest detail is orchestrated and planned to cut any options for any truth to come out.

[spiritguide]

David has it right and spot on. We can defeat this system trying to control because we are the system en masse. Without us to control they have nothing, so just say NO,NO,NO etc.

If you don't play there game you have no chance of loosing.......refuse to play there game!

[Phoenix10]

Seeing this pop up all over FB tonight... good timing and great reminder of what's really going on and who's behind it. I also listened to a great interview between Joe Rogan and Graham Hancock today... Graham's reminders about our Sovereign rights are also very timely.

[ktlight]

********************************************
* WARNING *
* ONLY FOR THOSE PREPARED TO FACE LIFE*
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"Order out of chaos.
Problem,reaction,solution.
One world goverment.
Google - Albert Pike Three World Wars.
There`s about144,000 results."

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[efields]

We have been In WWIII since the end of WWII.. Good Business they say LOL Asleep at the Wheel

[ktlight]

We have been In WWIII since the end of WWII.. Good Business they say LOL Asleep at the Wheel

And waking up fast. When did you know this "In WWIII since the end of WWII"?

[sygh]

David is right, we have very little time to stop this. I say, stop the war! NO MORE WAR!!!! Stop the military machine. The Rothchild's have made a mistake; they think they know everything but they don't. There aren't enough minds between them. They aren't using their higher power of reasoning; it's plain to see, they simply are not employing the meditative state.

[Lord Sidious]

We have been In WWIII since the end of WWII.. Good Business they say LOL Asleep at the Wheel

And waking up fast. When did you know this "In WWIII since the end of WWII"?

I would think he is right.
I have been of the opinion for years that the third world war started on the 8th of May, 1945.

[ktlight]

We have been In WWIII since the end of WWII.. Good Business they say LOL Asleep at the Wheel

And waking up fast. When did you know this "In WWIII since the end of WWII"?

I would think he is right.
I have been of the opinion for years that the third world war started on the 8th of May, 1945.

I am not doubting the fact. I am merely wondering when he first knew the fact. I have known this since you first stated it, and I have not yet asked you when you first knew the fact.

[seko]

We have been In WWIII since the end of WWII.. Good Business they say LOL Asleep at the Wheel

And waking up fast. When did you know this "In WWIII since the end of WWII"?

I would think he is right.
I have been of the opinion for years that the third world war started on the 8th of May, 1945.

They have tricked us again, it's not a conventional war like WW2. It is a corporate, food, water, oil, medicine war....and yes business is good for them.

But we started to fight in a peaceful manner, little by little we will stop this nonsense madness.

[Lord Sidious]

I am not doubting the fact. I am merely wondering when he first knew the fact. I have known this since you first stated it, and I have not yet asked you when you first knew the fact.

Got ya.
I have ''known'' this since the nineties.
I say it like that, as it is my opinion.



They have tricked us again, it's not a conventional war like WW2. It is a corporate, food, water, oil, medicine war....and yes business is good for them.

But we started to fight in a peaceful manner, little by little we will stop this nonsense madness.

Very true.

[sygh]

We've had a never ending succession of wars since WWII. One of the reasons is because of the way the Middle East was divided, after the fighting was over. That one reason alone has snowballed into a myriad of divisions, and a deadly never ending game of what seems like musical chairs.

But I don't know if I can say.. it's us against them because I take personal responsibility seriously. Waking up doesn't mean I'm not a part of the problem, or separated somehow from the dirty rotten scoundrels. What I can say, is that those who have stepped up to take charge are the current powerz that be -making poor decisions, based on poor decisions that were made previously. Making plans that last for centuries, or even poor shorter term objectives, and sticking to them, as if there were/are no better alternatives, this is nuts. 9-1-1. Over 3,500 people were "sacraficed", for the bigger picture. I look at David's 15 minute film and it makes me sick to see what wars do. Who would wish this on their children, or themselves?

So, what is the bigger picture? As a species, what is our ultimate goal? Shouldn't that be the question?

[sygh]

Perhaps a first suggestion??? How about -stop the frickin' war!

[sygh]

Sorry to be so talkative but I recently was listening to a Judge who was talking about the responsibilities of a jury. He said the jury doesn't have to find a person guilty, based on the current law, if the jury finds the law to be faulty. I think most people have forgotten about the power they have in the court system. He also said we should re-instate the 16th and 17 amendments, one getting rid of the IRS system, and two, resconding the power given to the CIA, FBI, etc... to write their own search warrents. The President's powers should also be curtailed. No one man should have the right to put anyone on a hit list, with no questions asked, and do it legally.

[Leon]

I agree...

The war continued just in a different direction... you say the Rothchild's don't know any more... but they are NWO!

The war of elimination did not stop...

It's about reducing world population by any means possible, without having too many notice how, or why.. the reasons given like at 911 are just there to blind you from the truth.

The terrorists we are looking for the whole time, are those who want to control us. not in some Eastern, middle Eastern country.
They are in front of you every day, this is why we have our god box! tv.
So we can show you who the terrorist are, without you realising it's really us!

[Leon]

BTW:

We would need to protect David Icke...

These people eliminate all those who stand in their way, by any means possible...

We are the people, we need to stand up...

Easy to say, we are in this system... we need food, water, shelter... we need to develop another system to survive

[Lost Soul]

First they'll squelch the internet. Then they'll isolate and silent the trouble makers. We need to prevent WW III.

[Lord Sidious]

Sorry to be so talkative but I recently was listening to a Judge who was talking about the responsibilities of a jury. He said the jury doesn't have to find a person guilty, based on the current law, if the jury finds the law to be faulty. I think most people have forgotten about the power they have in the court system. He also said we should re-instate the 16th and 17 amendments, one getting rid of the IRS system, and two, resconding the power given to the CIA, FBI, etc... to write their own search warrents. The President's powers should also be curtailed. No one man should have the right to put anyone on a hit list, with no questions asked, and do it legally.

That is called Jury Nullification.

[sygh]

I agree...

The war continued just in a different direction... you say the Rothchild's don't know any more... but they are NWO!

The war of elimination did not stop...

It's about reducing world population by any means possible, without having too many notice how, or why.. the reasons given like at 911 are just there to blind you from the truth.

The terrorists we are looking for the whole time, are those who want to control us. not in some Eastern, middle Eastern country.
They are in front of you every day, this is why we have our god box! tv.
So we can show you who the terrorist are, without you realising it's really us!

Yes.

Would it be too out of line for me to think that the earth (the universe actually) was made by a higher life source, and that there truely is a key (be it chemical, electromagnetic, or electromechanical) that sets a series of earthly events in motion, once a specific setpoint is reached?

Are there a group of people who actually hold that key, or is the existence of such a key a lie, albeit, the greatest show on earth?

[sygh]

Sorry to be so talkative but I recently was listening to a Judge who was talking about the responsibilities of a jury. He said the jury doesn't have to find a person guilty, based on the current law, if the jury finds the law to be faulty. I think most people have forgotten about the power they have in the court system. He also said we should re-instate the 16th and 17 amendments, one getting rid of the IRS system, and two, resconding the power given to the CIA, FBI, etc... to write their own search warrents. The President's powers should also be curtailed. No one man should have the right to put anyone on a hit list, with no questions asked, and do it legally.

That is called Jury Nullification.

Yup, and it's seems it's hardly used. What group within the US would stand up to the United States and sue them? Isn't that what needs to be done? Haven't we pretty much exausted the idea that we are going to change a run-away government hell bent on more government by "voting for change"?

[Andre]

I went to David Icke's talk on the Gold Coast in Australia a few weeks ago. (He spoke in Sydney yesterday). 2,000 people showed up on the Gold Coast. He got a standing ovation at the end of his 7 hour presentation. And if you know the Gold Coast (yes, the name says it all) you too would be astounded. And this is a guy who started out with 8 people in the room! Bless him!

I just hope that someone with access to Wall Street can take their laptop down there and set-up a little movie cinema to show his clip "Essential Knowledge for OWS". He is soooo on the money! (No pun intented).

[Cidersomerset]

Great !!

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Cheers Steve...

[Black Panther]

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[Davidallany]

Great video.

[AlexanderLight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV9A2IGShuk&feature=related

Money are corrupt and obsolete. The RBE is the economy of the future!

[brenie]

Many thanks to you Al, just watched the Vid.
If that same message could get to every demonstrator that might just make it all worth while.

Regards, Brenie.

[seantimberwolf]

God i love this man he is so passionate about the truth.
Thanks Al, i wish more people would watch this, so they really know how this world works, the best part about it is, it can all be found through research, just have to look.
In England our occupy was not covered by MSM, obviously, But it got a small half page in the middle of the paper, and was headed as "anarchists move onto st pauls to protest"
Says it all right LOL, No one will be laughing when this all comes to light.
But ill be in the woods, no chip in my neck ;)

[Cidersomerset]

George Carlin sums it up....

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[Ilie Pandia]

Adam Trombly in his lastest interview with Scott (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/adam-trombly-thrive-movie-mstarchild-program-zero-point-energy-part.html), makes a strong case that pollution actually causes climate change (global warming).

He states that heat gets generated at the core of the Earth, and that heat is radiated out in the Universe through the atmosphere. So changing the structure of the atmosphere (with pollution, chemtrails and what not) will disturb this radiation process, basically causing Earth to cook itself.

This theory does hold some water. If I recall correctly, the astronaut suit, has a cooling system to prevent that astronaut from over heating. This goes against the Hollywood ideas, that space is cold and stuff instantly freezes out there. That is not true (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_suit#Exposure_to_space_without_a_spacesuit). (Space is nor cold, nor hot. Temperature has no meaning when applied to space). If cold was a problem, the space suit would have had a heating system.

So, considering the above, if the Earth's cooling system (via radiation) is disturbed, we may see changes in climate.

That being said, Earth is also constantly being exposed to Solar radiation (that virtually fries anything outside of Earth protective magnetic field). So part of the climate is also seriously influenced by the Sun (and the state of the magneto sphere).

So the questions is this... which one has the biggest effect?

1) heating because the polluted atmosphere does not allow proper radiation of heat (as Adam Trombly suggests)
2) heating because the Sun is going crazy, and our magneto sphere is weakening

If (1) is the major cause, then yes, humans are responsible for "climate change".

If (2) is the major cause, we can't do much about the Sun, nor about the magnetosphere.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Ilie good interview ...............

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

It makes alot of sence what he says........If the graph is right and the reason since 1950 Co2 increase is caused by us .What are our leaders doing ?
Carbon Tax and all the green talk is pointless ,if it is that bad,sod the 'false' war on terror, and the UN should have this on top of the agenda everyday !!!!
Which is why I cannot take it seriously...
Unless its part of the agenda that Adam says either ET or some other entities/elites are just out to rape the planet and to hell with humanity..
But as you know if it is to do with the sun cycles and all the other planets are heating up as well, we may be at the mercy of the Sun ?
Most of what he says we have heard here and he is deffinately a enlightened human being....


The plutonium being released From Fukishima is something Ion has been saying about humans 'reaccending'..
Its to do with radiation activating chromozone 14, the only one with arms & a double helix which replicates everycell permantly thru RNA etc ..
Which I have put up here several times....and if you follow that route we are on a course that cannot be reversed !!!

Who knows what the truth is ? I've seen so many vids that anything may happen from Armaggedon to nothing at all.!!

But everyone on here knows mainstream is just full of fear porn ,X factor, scandels and wars !! This cannot be right !! imho.. Steve..

[etm567]

I respect David Icke tremendously. At the same time, he may be mistaken about a thing or two. The same goes with Fulford and Wilcock; they rely on inside information they are provided. At times, they may be misled; or they may not be. As far as I am concerned, their integrity goes without saying. All the same, they may be mistaken from time to time.

As a reader of the Law of One and of David Wilcock, I believe that some, or a great deal, of global warming is not caused by human intervention. But I also do believe that human intervention is contributing to it, and that we should change our ways. Of course, the most significant means that should be available to us for us to do so -- free energy, I mean -- has been and is being kept from us.

It recently occurred to me why the PTB are so intent on getting rid of so many of us. For centuries, their control of energy, through their control of world oil supplies, has enabled them to control us -- well, their control of energy combined with their control over world money supplies. But the world is at a tipping point where we really need cut back on the CO2 we add to the atmosphere. We could do that with free energy, but the cabal would lose their control over us.

If they get rid of most of us, get the world population back down below one billion or so, they can continue to withhold free energy and continue to control us by controlling access to fossil fuels. That's why they want to kill so many of us: to continue their absolute control regime. If the world population continues to expand (given that all other things in our timeline remain the same) and we are not allowed free energy, then yes, our atmosphere will reach a tipping point and things could get very bad for our home planet. It would be so much better for them if they could just wipe out most of us and keep controlling us as they have up until now.

That makes sense to me.

So I think David Icke is both right and wrong.

Oh, one more thing: the climate movement -- not the climate justice movement, the other one -- the one involving carbon credits and trading and such, is definitely just one more racket. So, you see, Icke and others are both right and wrong. There is a racket going on. But bottom line we need to use free energy and be much more responsible in the way we treat Earth. So no, it's not all a fairy tale. The Earth is warming. Yes, the whole solar system is warming. And we are making it worse by our activities.

So the whole situation is much more complex than either/or, yes or no, global warming or not. And they, TPTB, are very good at keeping us confused and keeping our eyes off the ball we should be watching.

I apologize for the murkiness of that post. I hope folks can get my meaning, though.

[Ilie Pandia]

There is another clarification that I want to make.

I don't recall exactly but Adam Trombly did not say that CO2 is causing trouble. (That is said only to justify the "Carbon tax"). What is causing trouble is atmospheric pollution but not by CO2 necessarily. Take for example chemtrails and radioactive dust and all sorts of stuff being put out there, that are not related to CO2.

So yes, pollution is an issue, for us and the environment, but Carbon tax will not help with that :)

[ktlight]

I just got it!!!!!!!!!!
David Icke is Morpheus! Yes, David Icke is Morpheus! It makes sense...He is showing us the Matrix. We decide whether we take the blue pill or... the red pill;)
Love you David, thank you for everything you have done for the world!
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[ROMANWKT]

Thank you ktlight

I would like to think that that's exactly what I am saying here, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32896-MANIFESTING-IN-THE-MATRIX-its-all-nonsense-part-2

my regards to you
roman

[last50cobra]

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2.5 Hours is long, but here is an edit of just the relevant parts, dont let the title scare you off:

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[Limor Wolf]

Hello last50cobra,

we had this kind of discussion before,in length.you can take a look at :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9107-David-Icke-Debunked--Full-Movie-

My personal believe is that David Icke is one of the most advanced incarnated souls,and I am very greatful for all the important work he is doing.

[Cidersomerset]

At the end of the day whether you believe David or not does not matter........He tells you in every interview. Check the information for yourselves, because all he does is connect the dots and presents the facts as he sees it. I do not believe everything he says, but I agree with a lot of it , his information added to the library of videos on Camelot and other sites confirms for me, there is 1000% evidence of manipulation,lies ,conspircy and deliberate dumbing down of us the 99% of humanity from a minority of elitist conspiritors that have been doing this for eons, whether ET's interdimensional entities or just plain evil, greedy powercrazy humans !!!

What David says reasonates with me ...If his books are channelled by benevelent beings or his non-physical subconcious is giving him a hand, it does not matter imho, he and others over the last 20/30 years must be given credit for waking us up ! Cheers Steve

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

Asking help from someone "outside of you", always implies a risk.

Let's say you ask me to help you with your web site. Not because you're not capable of doing it, but you'd rather do something you like while someone else, me, does the site. At this point you trust me, that my help and my guidance and suggestions are sincere and honest. You trust me with your passwords, with your account, and in some cases you may even need my help to setup access to a Paypal account.

At this point I could stab you in the back or I could honestly help you. But you will be the observer in both cases, and you get to chose if you want to terminate the relationship with me or not.

So ultimately, you are the deciding factor in what is helpful for you! If you notice that "some entity", "guide", "higher self", "God", "Jesus", "mind", "ego" etc. brings you to new understandings, brings you to what you want to be and experience... then what is the problem? why not accept that help?

The voice in your head could be your imagination, could be "God", could be a "demon", whatever... what it matters is your response to that! Is it helping you? It makes your life better, easier? Are younmore happy with yourself? To deny such "guidance" could be just as detrimental as to blindly accept "any thought or idea" without careful observation.

So it all comes back to you in the end, as it should be :).

[etheric underground]

I agree Ilie.
What some people might want to also consider, is that at some higher level
of conciousness you must become lighter, as your vibrational self attunes to
a higher frequency. To become lighter you must shed the heavy, cumbersome
baggage we categorise as a body with all its negativity, emotional attachments etc..
In that regard if a person feels that the information they channel and pass on is from
a source of the light and they intuituively will align with this as we begin the ascension process ourselves.
Can we not assume that( for that individual firstly) and for anyone else that is drawn and resonates with
that information that it might just be what it pertains to be.
The key is the intention of the information and how it makes you feel...
If I choose to assimilate with particular info from uncheckable sources, this is what i do, I feel the message,
if it makes me feel hope and excitement and it promotes me to search a little deeper into my self....
Than I believe this info to be from a light and positive source and pay gratitude for the insights

[Davidallany]

Last50cobra, what is your conclusion about David Icke? Is this about the effectiveness of psychic powers, Mr. Icke or both? You don't say much about the videos. I also like to post videos, but I would give a brief description of my purpose. This thread may belong to General discussion section as well.

[cheez_2806]

oh man please...u serious...? anyways~
I'm going to his event tomorrow! See how I feel after this~
I'm still excited!!!

[AlexanderLight]

19:00 Minute, the most important thing of all. Peace to all!

[Niobe]

Thanks for the video- David has a lot of important things to say there. My question is- what does the future look like if things were to change, like he says (and I agree) it should? If people don't change- the whole cycle will just start up again. I'm not sure humans have the capacity to create the kind of world where we could live freely and in peace and I don't know what it would take to change that. Do you?

[last50cobra]

Last50cobra, what is your conclusion about David Icke? Is this about the effectiveness of psychic powers, Mr. Icke or both? You don't say much about the videos. I also like to post videos, but I would give a brief description of my purpose. This thread may belong to General discussion section as well.

I think a lot of his experiences were genuine and I am quite sure be believes the entities are good. The challenge however is having a criteria that allows one to determine whether they are being lied to or not by extra dimensional entities.

[jack]

David Icke debunked!!

Can you really debunk a human being?

Cmon now, thats a bit like saying - "Encyclopedia Britannica debunked!"

Both David Icke and Encyclopedia Britannica cover a very wide array of topics.


Its possible that someone may have evidence that proposes one of the very many subjects he speaks about may not be entirely accurate. But to say "David Icke Debunked" alludes that the entire man himself and all his facets has been debunked .. and could potentially mean that he doesnt even exist... =)

[Referee]

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[christian]

Years after calling David Icke a "turd in the punch bowl", Alex and David go over all the interdimensional reptilian stuff, the cabal, the true nature of consciousness, the awakening and all the rest of it, this is very powerful. At the end Alex even says, he'd like to go to one of David's presentations. Now guess how many of his listeners, who either had not heard about David before or dismissed his information, will look into it now.

[jackovesk]

I'm a 'SLAVE' & I'm 'NOT' having it 'ANYMORE'..!

Full - Interview

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[Tony]

If we over react, then we are slaves, we are easier to control, our button can be pushed at any time.

[christian]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33943-David-Ike-on-Alex-Jones-11-3-2011
Here's it again, the whole thing.

[Trail]

David has a gift of clarity.. i always find his speeches amazingly clear.. thanks for posting..

[ktlight]

"Alex hosts a power-packed 27 hour long money-bomb presentation today with guest David Icke."

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[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTlight David is a great communicator, when people can get over his negative press they realise the majority of what he has been telling us is true !!!

Problem Reaction Solution.......

The Totalitarian Tip Toe.........

If you watch the mainstream news, then however old you are ....
Think of all the major events that have manipulated world policies
you will reconise the two above statements of David......

Charles and the Royals are Vamperic...

I put this on another thread yesterday, listen to Charles at the end...
He tells the interviewer at the end that he is a direct ancestor of
Vlad the impaler.....and he has a 'STAKE' in the country !!!

It is a witty answer for him , But its probably TRUE !
or a 'Bloody' coincidence Litterally....

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As David says at the end these vamperic entities thrive off
the fear of human suffering......

The light bulb theory makes sence if you think of it, certainly a poss...

David , Alex & Jesse interesting !!

Cheers Steve..

[andrei]

you guys do realize that all the vampire Dracula stories are just FICTIONAL right ?
Vlad III Dracul didnt had anything to do with vampires, he actually reformed Wallachia. The peasants had a easier life under his rule, and the boyars (nobles, kinda like nowadays banksters) lost a lot of their power during his reign. He build churches, monasteries, roads, new villages. He made the churches lower their tax that peasants had to pay, kicked a lot of nobles from the national council, and replaced them with free peasants and higher ranked soldiers (imagine if in a parliament from today there were only people like you and me, and not the corrupt and rich politicians)
The punishment for crime and for the invaders (mostly ottomans) was impalement. This was a form of psychological warfare, because Wallachia could not match the army numbers that the ottomans had. This was meant to make people reluctant to commit crimes, and to lower the morale of the enemies.
Was he evil ? Depends who you ask.
Ask the romanians what they think about it, and most of them will say he was a national hero.
Throwing this garbage on a ruler and a country that people know nothing about is making me really sad. The british royal family is related to most noble families in Europe and Russia. EXCEPT the Noble House of Basarab which Vlad was part of. I`m currently working and researching various old documents, and i`m sure i can prove that Prince Charles has nothing to do with Vlad.
Let`s be reasonable, and not belive everything people tell us. Hell, you dont even have to belive me, but atleast i can bring proof. Can mr Icke or mr Jones bring any ?

[ktlight]

"David Icke is doing humanity a great service, saw him last Fall in NYC, been following his work for several years, very deep very mind expanding stuff."

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[merkabagirll]

I read Icke's 'The Robots' Rebellion' about 10 years ago and have since found him to be a brilliant, compassionate and eloquent writer/speaker. The book was my first introduction to Reptilians and I really thought he'd 'pushed the envelope' on that one! Now I see there is alot of info to support his premise. Thanks for the vid!

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

you guys do realize that all the vampire Dracula stories are just FICTIONAL right ?
Vlad III Dracul didnt had anything to do with vampires, he actually reformed Wallachia. The peasants had a easier life under his rule, and the boyars (nobles, kinda like nowadays banksters) lost a lot of their power during his reign. He build churches, monasteries, roads, new villages. He made the churches lower their tax that peasants had to pay, kicked a lot of nobles from the national council, and replaced them with free peasants and higher ranked soldiers (imagine if in a parliament from today there were only people like you and me, and not the corrupt and rich politicians)
The punishment for crime and for the invaders (mostly ottomans) was impalement. This was a form of psychological warfare, because Wallachia could not match the army numbers that the ottomans had. This was meant to make people reluctant to commit crimes, and to lower the morale of the enemies.


Was he evil ? Depends who you ask.
Ask the romanians what they think about it, and most of them will say he was a national hero.
Throwing this garbage on a ruler and a country that people know nothing about is making me really sad. The british royal family is related to most noble families in Europe and Russia. EXCEPT the Noble House of Basarab which Vlad was part of. I`m currently working and researching various old documents, and i`m sure i can prove that Prince Charles has nothing to do with Vlad.
Let`s be reasonable, and not belive everything people tell us. Hell, you dont even have to belive me, but atleast i can bring proof. Can mr Icke or mr Jones bring any ?


I appreciate what you are trying to do and I think it is important to make sure that the claims we make about historical figures are accurate, however I think there were more important matters discussed in this interview than who impaled who on a stake hundreds of years ago. I think it is important to understand that the ptb, whoever/whatever they might be, are sociopaths in the truest and most disturbing sense of the word. Once we understand how they not only feel no remorse about hurting a child but actually take pleasure in it, we can accept the idea that they feel no remorse about enslaving and soft-killing us. It is an important step in understanding that these people are capable of atrocities beyond our imagination. Cheers though interesting point to bring up!
-AIJ

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks andrei Vlad Dracul came to power and treacherously as you say killed the Boyars and securing his power base by strengthening the countries deffences. After several notorious incidents including nailing the turbans to the head of two Ottoman envoys, he faced the wrath of the Sultan who invaded with a much larger army.After initially repelling the attack he commited another atrocity by impaling over 20,000 dead,wounded & prisoners on poles creating a macabre forrest of horror.At this point his younger brother Radu who was in the service of the sultan followed Vlad and his remaining forces back to his castle where he was besieged, Vlad managed to escape capture and flee to Transylvania.
Eventually ending in the hands of King Mathias head of the order of the Dragon in Hungary he made a deal with vlad and he returned to Wallachia after the death of his brother Radu and took the throne again but shortly after was killed in battle trying to drive out the Turks .
According to the accounts I've read Vlad had a habbit of raiding towns and impaling prisoners to death as a deterent against rebelion,hence his name. Vlad the impaler...Of course I agree he may have been benevolent to some of his own people, but I have not heard him called Vlad the Great or Good....Maybe he needs some better press. Although according to accounts he ruled by terror and killed thousands of his own subjects .He was supported by the Pope, because he fought the Turks, but he seemed particularly cruel in a cruel world....

Although today he is seen as a national symbol in Romania for his fight against the Ottomans,
as with many so called heroes it depends who you ask ....

http://hamsterrepublic.com/html/vladhistory.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

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He deffinately needs some better PR..Cheers Steve

Charles claims to be a distant relative of Vlad thru his grandmother Queen Mary 'Teck'
wife of George the V and mother of the present monarch of the UK.....As you say there
should not be any great surprise in this as all the blue bloods of Europe intermarried for
political and status reasons.......But if you follow David Ickes reasoning , thats where
the vamperic entities come into it and possibly human blood/flesh eating, although
I agree this might be a step to far for many at present...

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Cheers Steve..

[andrei]

Europe was not a nice place during those times. Let`s not forget that less than a few years earlier we had the black death, one of the most devastating pandemics in human history. People were destroying jewish communities, and burning whole families alive because of the rumors that jews were responsible for the plague. People were a lot more violent than today. How can we forget the times when everyone was gathering to watch public executions, they were even bringing their children, and cheering when someone was decapitated.
My point is that Europe was a brutal place, and we should see how Vlad found Wallachia when he came to power, constant war had resulted in rampant crime, falling agricultural production, and the virtual disappearance of trade. I`m not saying he was a saint, but he was no demon either. He did what he had to do.
It is very easy for us to judge things, but we often forget how hard life was back then, and how little education people had. Instead of trying to come up with wild theories about vampires and reptillians, we should focus more on the historical facts, and it will be a lot easier to understand the actions of the people of those times, no matter how horrible those are to us today.
I`m sorry for my english, but i hope it was good enough to make my point :)
Currently i am studying the bloodline of the british royal family, and i will publish my findings here.

[ruisatriani]

Cross "Gods of Eden" from William Bramley with "Children of the Matrix" of David Icke, and its a pretty good start! David Icke's eloquence is breathtaking and not many people have his coherence in speech! Thank you for that David!
Europe is desperately squeezing their austerity measures for the introduction of their new plans... Greece and Portugal already start having the people needed to introduce them! (I'm portuguese) but its becoming quite obvious. Money and how it is ruled is the key for a new start... We need a new form of exchange, even if we keep using money. Credit is the obvious way to own other peoples possessions sooner or later... and this is not Economy in the true sense.

Andrei, read "Gods of Eden", if you can... You will find some bloodlines connections very interestingly put. And because we are less worse than before, doesn't mean we shouldn't AIM MUCH HIGHER. And remember that history is what is written... And that can be manipulated very easily.

Cheers
Rui

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Andrei you are right there was wars disease atrocoties carried out all over Europe Vlad was a product of his time as was Hitler,Stalin and all the atrocoties going on today in the middle east and elsewhere.....I 'm open to the possibilities that it is not just our warlike human nature to blame as I hope we are better than that or at least striving to be.....
It makes more sence to me we have and still are being manipulated by manevolent possible alien bloodlines, who thrive off the essence of humanity in some vamperic way, and when they manifest in physical form may have to partake in flesh & blood rituals ?? Also the essence given off when humans die particularly before puberty, and when in a state of fear, may be harvested by these interdimensional entities !!
This would explain all the bloodshed and billions of unessary deaths over our entire physical existance on the planet.....If it is not and as a species we are just a greedy corrupt warlike race
manipulated by even more powerfull manipulative humans we are in even worse trouble than I thought......Steve

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Andrei and cinder: whether we believe that vlad was one of these ptb sociopathic killers or that he thought he was committing these crimes for the good of his people, has little to do with the point david is trying to make. The point is that there are people (call them satanists or parasitic aliens or whatever) who commit these acts of torture on people for religious (if you can call it that) reasons. For evidence of this I suggest the book the franklin cover-up by john decamp. This is like provable-in-a-court-of-law type stuff. I am now beyond any doubt that I once had that these sick "religious" cult activities go on. If anybody wants more information let me know. I have a large collection of books on this subject.

[andrei]

ruisatriani and alternativeinfojunkie - thank you for the suggestion, i will look it up :)
cidersomerset - i agree, and i too belive that there is something "in the shadows" manipulating us.
However, I remember how easy it is for us humans to deny our warlike and violent nature and blame it on external "factors". We, the humans (well, some of us) are bloodthirsty creatures. If we pick up any history book, the first thing we see is that throughout the ages humans killed their brothers and sisters with great joy. The whole history of our "modern civilization" is just a long trail of blood an atrocities. Another thing that humans have in common is the hope that someone from outside our realm will come and solve all our problems. It is easy to see, from religion (second coming of Jesus for example), to more modern theories about aliens coming to "save us" (i am not saying it wont happen, but I think we should save ourselves than wait for outside help).
I look on the forum, and on the internet in general, and it brings me great joy to see that humans are starting to open their eyes. In times like these i think it is very easy to be mislead by different "theories" that various individuals come up with. In my opinion, our role here on earth is to become better human beings and above all, more educated human beings. It is our duty to also help the ones around us become better and to spread education and knowlegde whenever we can. We should stop looking for scapegoats, stop waiting for some "divine intervention" that we are unsure it will happen, and start working toghether.
I want to live in a world where humans smile and laugh all the time. I want to live in a world where people are not afraid, and are hungry, not for blood and wealth, but for knowledge and wisdom.
We have a lot of hard work ahead of us, and this is just the begining.
Smile :)

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Sorry if I was being unclear. That was DAVID'S point, in my view. MY point is that they don't have to be draco extra-dimensional beings or vampires to commit these acts. They can be human beings. Whatever they are, their lack of empathy makes them seem quite alien to caring people like you and me.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

ruisatriani and alternativeinfojunkie - thank you for the suggestion, i will look it up :)
cidersomerset - i agree, and i too belive that there is something "in the shadows" manipulating us.
However, I remember how easy it is for us humans to deny our warlike and violent nature and blame it on external "factors". We, the humans (well, some of us) are bloodthirsty creatures. If we pick up any history book, the first thing we see is that throughout the ages humans killed their brothers and sisters with great joy. The whole history of our "modern civilization" is just a long trail of blood an atrocities. Another thing that humans have in common is the hope that someone from outside our realm will come and solve all our problems. It is easy to see, from religion (second coming of Jesus for example), to more modern theories about aliens coming to "save us" (i am not saying it wont happen, but I think we should save ourselves than wait for outside help).
I look on the forum, and on the internet in general, and it brings me great joy to see that humans are starting to open their eyes. In times like these i think it is very easy to be mislead by different "theories" that various individuals come up with. In my opinion, our role here on earth is to become better human beings and above all, more educated human beings. It is our duty to also help the ones around us become better and to spread education and knowlegde whenever we can. We should stop looking for scapegoats, stop waiting for some "divine intervention" that we are unsure it will happen, and start working toghether.
I want to live in a world where humans smile and laugh all the time. I want to live in a world where people are not afraid, and are hungry, not for blood and wealth, but for knowledge and wisdom.
We have a lot of hard work ahead of us, and this is just the begining.
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Wow very powerful and inspiring words andrei. Thank you for that. Peace be with you and all other truth-seekers.
-AIJ

[Cidersomerset]

I agree we cannot blame everything on outside influance and it is up to us break thru this cycle and hopefully we are...
Vlad was used by David as an example because of his name being associated with bloodlust and cruelty, in the scheme of horrors that have been and still are
going on he is by no means on his own, and before comming across this in 90's i thought we were just humans manipulated by the political & religious elites thru the
centuries for power etc....

If we go on to say that we may have created on this planet as a hybrid worker species for say the Annunaki and its thru there bloodlines that the leaders of the world are
descended from them and may still have contact with them today and for reasons I said previous may consider us their creation/subjects/responcibilty and
they feel they can do what they want with us.

Then it gets complicated as we may have been seeded by other cultures and various alien races may have a stake in the planet as many have said!
Whatever the scenario more people are waking up that the status que of how the planet has been run in the last 6,000 years neads a radical shake up
imho, and this is becoming particularly obvious in this new digital age when communiucation has been opened up to the masses and the lies and
agendas put before us on the mainstream are blatently portrayed to keep us dumbed down and in fear of our jobs homes and lives...Steve

[ruisatriani]

We, the humans (well, some of us) are bloodthirsty creatures. If we pick up any history book, the first thing we see is that throughout the ages humans killed their brothers and sisters with great joy. The whole history of our "modern civilization" is just a long trail of blood an atrocities.

One parallel theory that approaches the human warfare issue throughout the ages is not a conventional one, is from (and again, I'll have to mention) "Gods of Eden", because it is all what it is about.
We rarely, if we do, encounter people around us who like war... who would go in a massacre like mission to shred out other humans lifes. That might say something else about our real true nature, which i believe is not one of war and destruction.

So, if no one likes war, how come there have been so many wars throughout time?
The main reason we start wars is probably on how much we hate and are disgusted by other person or people. That is the poison i believe mankind has been given throughout hundreds of years... the divide and conquer philosophy that still remains today... Take control of a movement... then create a counter movement...make this people hate eachother by rumour and disinformation... you'll have a War. It happens at small scale with neighbours, when someone says this about this guy, then another says the opposite, then intrigue is installed. (pardon the superficila example! lol)
Wars make profits to who creates them as well as it keeps mankind rebuilding and restoring what they have been creating for many years, therefore, it keeps us busy. In this book it is explained how the Kingdom of German Hannover infiltrated the British throne. They would create wars between protestant and catholics, and other wars, while forcing The British throne to rent troops from Hannover, squeezing their treasury away... etc

All i want to say with this is that wars seem to me they have been instigated, not created by human warfare nature, because i don't believe we have that nature.

All are opinions, of course, i welcome the debate. :)

Cheers mate.

[andrei]

First of all, thank you AIJ, I feel honored by your kind words, peace be with you too.
It is very exciting to start posting here, it is an amazing community. I am very happy to see alternative views on history, because i feel that our history is one of our biggest enigmas as a species.
Most difficult problems cannot be solved by a single individual, and this is where our true power as humans can be observed. A group of individuals will solve a problem a lot faster, mostly due to the fact that a lot of us see it from a different angle. Diversity was always key to our success as a species, we just need to learn to work together. :)
I ordered Gods of Eden and i will start reading it as soon as I am done with the research on Prince Charles and Vlad Dracul.
Peace

[Cidersomerset]

This subject is massive and there are many angles to come at it, what soon becomes apparent is many things we have been taught do not make sence,
but when you start connecting the dots as David Icke is doing and giving us his interpretation of his findings....You know something big is wrong !!
This does not mean he is right about everything, but all in all he is pretty close to the mark especially about ancient bloodlines comming out of Babylon
whether they are alien or not....and the roles Royalty, Religion and now the 'Bankster' and the corporates have played in our lives is undeniable..

I also don't think it is our natural instinct is to invade our neighbour without some sort of manipulative encouragement ......
Sure in the past one tribe might expand into anothers territory for food and resources, and that still happened in New Guinea and the Amazon untill recently.
So there is a tribal instinct to exploit..But to have industrialised killing as we have today I still feel is beyond our natural human primitive state and is
something that has been exploited by possible external beings/entities...Steve

[Andre]

I thought I would offer an opinion that I've been forming about these hybrid bloodlines as David Icke calls them.

David's explanation that the hybrid bloodlines and their ilk are able to do what they do because they have had certain genes disabled or expunged makes a lot of sense and it is the only plausible theory I've heard to date.

However, I think it is important to remember that their numbers in society are far greater than those of the royal bloodlines. To some extent that is obvious, otherwise they would not have been able to do what they've done up to this point in our history.

It is a relatively easy matter to establish how their numbers have increased through time and modern science, unknowingly, has actually estimated their numbers!

But before I explain science's position today, we need to look back through history to see how it was that their numbers increased in the first place despite the fact that the blue bloods have always made every effort to avoid diluting their genes.

According to the great historian and prolific author, Zecharia Sitchin, this genetic engineering was done about 300,000 years ago. Others, like Wells put the date at about 60,000 years based on DNA sampling and his remarkable work that traces human origins to Africa through our DNA.

The point here is that because this genetic deficiency was introduced so long ago, it is reasonable to assume that those carrying the hybrid genes have intermixed and that their numbers are far greater today than the numbers of royal families alone.

This premise is borne out by modern psychologists who estimate the number of sociopaths (who are clinically similar to psychopaths) at about 4% of the population. But psychologists also assert that because sociopaths do not have a conscience, they are naturally drawn towards positions of power and I propose that their ratio to those around them increases exponentially as you move up the food chain or the pyramid of power. At the very top, it is entirely possible that the percentage is closer to 1 in 4 or 25%. If you study the profile of a typical sociopath, you will see why this idea is not only plausible but very likely.

For example, I live in Australia and there is no doubt that the behavior of our current Prime Minister is consistent with that of a sociopath. I think you will find that most world leaders and many of their ministers are also sociopaths. Sociopaths do not know right from wrong and they have a very well developed ability to feign emotions that the rest of us take for granted. They can easily begile and charm their way to power. And that is one of the reasons we are still in shock about what David is asserting. On the surface, they seem normal enough, but underneath looms total inhumanity.

Fortunately for us humans, their lack of heart will be their downfall.

[Cidersomerset]

David is treated with respect by David farrier on a New Zealand news magazine.

He explains to the journalist how to be a 'real journalist' and that he is not restrained by

proprieters and editors to interfere with the truth !

The U/Tube links have been disabled but this link direct to the station is still up..

http://www.3news.co.nz/David-Icke---full-interview/tabid/309/articleID/231773/Default.aspx







David Farrier was polite and sounded genuinely interested and its a very good little interview.....Steve

[Cidersomerset]

Now after watching the excellent little interview above .....See how the editor tried to distort it, I presume for the news segment by adding the sensational clips....To please their mainstream owners I presume

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He must have had a positive effect on David Farrier and the news office as they all wanted to be photographed with him, at the end.........Steve

[christian]

David says he didn't vote for a long long time, I figure the UK Independence Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVeMBNB0cII) is pretty decent, though.

Anyways, thank you, nice interview and the editing and reactions from the staff are really telling.

[Gardener]

Can anyone still play these videos because after watching the first one the second one wouldn't play due to copyright reasons, and after going back to the first one, that is also blocked now!!!

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[Cidersomerset]

Sorry Gardener thats a shame ,they caught on to that quick as it was a good interview portraying David as he is without the hype of the news segment...

[Cidersomerset]

I have found it here not sure if it will work everywhere ?

http://www.3news.co.nz/David-Icke---full-interview/tabid/309/articleID/231773/Default.aspx



Its working in the UK at the momment, don't know for how long....

[Drackonknight]

its Toast in the US now. Good Try and Thank you!

[Lisab]

Cant get it here now either. Thanks anyway Cidie.

[Cidersomerset]

Lisab its still working here...

http://www.3news.co.nz/David-Icke---full-interview/tabid/309/articleID/231773/Default.aspx

[Ecnal61]

A nice little interview with David icke,who seems to be gaining more kudos with each passing year as the rest of the world catches up with him. i know he has a lot of knockers but for my money the guy is a living legend.thanks for posting this cider.

[Black Panther]

Now after watching the excellent little interview above .....See how the editor tried to distort it, I presume for the news segment by adding the sensational clips....To please their mainstream owners I presume

Wow, it's really hypocritical to portray David like that on
the news after watching the whole interview.

:nono:


He explains to the journalist how to be a 'real journalist' and that he is not restrained by proprieters and editors to interfere with the truth !


That's very ironic in this case!

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Ecnal yes he is a example of concistantly plugging away for the truth......

Chiquetet... some of UKIP ideas are a bit too right wing I think for David , but saying that their leader Nigal Farage has suffered the same ridicule over the years with the mainstream press over
his views like David. All be they different subjects but David I suspect would appload Nigal Farage for this rebuke of European beaurocracy in the EU parliment recently

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cheers Steve

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Black Panther that was the point I was trying to portray !!! ....Steve

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[Gardener]

Yay got it thank you cider, awesome clarity, very refreshing. I have followed David for a long time through the ups and downs and he just gets better and better.

thanks again
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[CdnSirian]

Link works for me, thanks Cidersomerset.

[Ernie Nemeth]

worked for me too

David Icke is like the energizer bunny - just keeps going and going.

[Referee]

Here is the Interview there are 5 parts.

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[Ol' Roy]

I Like Alex Jones and David Icke! But damn it Alex cut David off at about 45 seconds toward the last of the interview. About the Monopoly Game or a game that escapes my memory from back in the early 70's. Help me out on you guys. This was a game board where the ultimate was to contol the world. Was it called Risk? David probally was about to spill the beans. I've noticed Alex doing this before. Is it edited? I guess it is answering my own ? since we are not gettting the commercials here.

Just hope had a nice 11/11/11! Is this a new holiday? Happy Veterns Day to all that have served. We love you and your families for their sacrfice. I honor you. These words come from the heart!

Love and blessings!
Ol'Roy

[jp11]

Referee,

Thanks for adding the other 4 videos. I tried all sorts of different searches to find them and could only come with three...so frustrating! :(

I don't how you people find all this info but I'm so glad you do. :)

[TWINCANS]

Very interesting about the global blueprint being employed to hire narcisistic bullies to put into police uniform and psychopaths to manage them - through the use of planned hiring policies using targeted questionnaires and psychological testing. Explains a lot.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks 'Ref' another great interview, I like as Jones has come full circle and is in full support of Davids interdimentional entity force manipulating humanity....

Royal bloodline openly traces themslves back to ancient roots......Most top US polititions all have sick secrets infact look at Bellisconi and all leaders are a

suspect imho........

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/16/b8/f8ce177042b68c2c4741932f675d.jpeg

There is a likeness especially around the nose, the more they go into the interview its obvious how we have been manipulated for sacrifice and to keep a very few people in power for thousands of years...

[shamanseeker]

Thanks 'Ref' another great interview, I like as Jones has come full circle and is in full support of Davids interdimentional entity force manipulating humanity....

Royal bloodline openly traces themslves back to ancient roots......Most top US polititions all have sick secrets infact look at Bellisconi and all leaders are a

suspect imho........

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/16/b8/f8ce177042b68c2c4741932f675d.jpeg

There is a likeness especially around the nose, the more they go into the interview its obvious how we have been manipulated for sacrifice and to keep a very few people in power for thousands of years...


I apologise if this is a bit off topic but can't resist! Have you noticed that the Queen and many royals as they age become really fierce and evil-looking? If you look at just their eyes and shield the rest of their face, their eyes are cold, cold, cold. In some photos, though Prince Charles's eyes seem to be immensely sad. Does anyone else see this? Does anyone think that maybe he isn't happy with his role in life?

[shamanseeker]

Thanks 'Ref' another great interview, I like as Jones has come full circle and is in full support of Davids interdimentional entity force manipulating humanity....

Royal bloodline openly traces themslves back to ancient roots......Most top US polititions all have sick secrets infact look at Bellisconi and all leaders are a

suspect imho........

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/16/b8/f8ce177042b68c2c4741932f675d.jpeg

There is a likeness especially around the nose, the more they go into the interview its obvious how we have been manipulated for sacrifice and to keep a very few people in power for thousands of years...


Sorry - duplicated post and can't find out how to eliminate it!

[Cidersomerset]

Yes I know what you mean Shamenseeker...In 1997 during the election campaign that saw a fresh faced Tony Blair sweep to power there was a famous poster campaign by the 'Tories'

saying Tony Blair had demon eyes.....At the time was not so well up on my 'Ickencyclopedia' of evil possed people and like most people thought it childish.....I think Saatchi & Saatchi

may have accidently been trying to tell us something...

http://images.onesite.com/blogs.telegraph.co.uk/user/andrew_porter/demon.jpg

The Vatican Maffia
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_i5W2m9XNB3w/R0lcMqR1LLI/AAAAAAAABC8/p4675rpHN4U/s320/pope_and_tony_blair.jpg

The Royal inner 'Coven'
http://www.foreignstudents.com/sites/default/files/webfm/british_royal_family.jpg

The 'Bush Baby's'

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I could go on for sometime but you get the point...LOL..Steve

[shamanseeker]

[QUOTE=Cidersomerset;354063]Yes I know what you mean Shamenseeker...In 1997 during the election campaign that saw a fresh faced Tony Blair sweep to power there was a famous poster campaign by the 'Tories'

saying Tony Blair had demon eyes.....At the time was not so well up on my 'Ickencyclopedia' of evil possed people and like most people thought it childish.....I think Saatchi & Saatchi

may have accidently been trying to tell us something...

http://images.onesite.com/blogs.telegraph.co.uk/user/andrew_porter/demon.jpg

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Hi Cidersomerset, I've always thought that Blair had the most evil eyes of all of them!
Prince Charles has compassion and sadness in his eyes in this photo and it has surprised me. I'm wondering if it was he whom Inelia Benz visited and who moved from the dark side - but maybe I'm being too optimistic? I've often wondered if William might have a changing moment in the future due to the influence that his mother had on him.

[ktlight]

"On this Friday, November 11 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with English writer, public speaker and former BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party, David Icke."

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[christian]

What a headline :drum:

Very powerful interview!

Here's the entire thing in one piece:

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[DNA]

You know, I have documented a personal case and a fellow travelers case in this thread Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings - Encounter with a Vampire (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21614-Parasitic-Non-Organic-Multidimensional-Beings&p=233934&viewfull=1#post233934)
And in this instance, I felt that a parastic entity in the astral realm, with a tad more tencacity and more focused objective than a typical ghost was trying to make a bond with me.
This may sound quaint, and colloquial, but it seemed as if the being needed permision to complete the bond, he needed to be asked in.

I have always wondered, if these folks in different secret societies, are unknowingly asking something in, when they recite these old greek and latin incantations.
And it may even begin in the college fraternities.


I also believe 100% this thing with ritual sexual abuse is going on, and yes, I do think it has to do with these entities eating the energy, I discuss that here. Washington D.C. Politicians Documented Instances of Pedophilia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24794-Washington-D.C.-Politicians-Documented-Instances-of-Pedophilia)

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTLight...In 1997 during the election campaign that saw a fresh faced Tony Blair sweep to power there was a famous poster campaign by the 'Tories'

saying Tony Blair had demon eyes.....At the time I was not so well up on my 'Ickopedia' of evil possed people and like most in the UK thought it childish..... Maybe Saatchi & Saatchi the conservative election campaign designers may have accidently been trying to tell us something...

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I like how Alex Jones has come full circle and is in full support of Davids interdimentional entity force manipulating humanity.... Royal bloodline openly traces themslves back to ancient roots......Most top US polititions all have sick secrets infact look at Bellisconi and all leaders are a suspect imho........ There is a likeness especially around the nose,in this photo of charles and Gt uncle Vlad.... the more they go into the interview its obvious how we have been manipulated for sacrifice and to keep a very few people in power for thousand of years...

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/16/b8/f8ce177042b68c2c4741932f675d.jpeg

This is a edited version of my responce to Referee puting this vid up yesterday...Cheers Steve

[transiten]

When will we see David Icke, David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford on the same stage comparing their information?

[jackovesk]

C'Mon everyone..?

I got more timely Answers on what is 'Really Going in This World' from this, which is probably the best David Icke/Alex Jones interview to date!

If I had time I would have 'Bullet Pointed' all the 'Great Info' Icke shared with the radio audience, their is some 'Real Rolled Gold Truth' in this one..!

Definately will be listening to this again...

David Icke is totally 'Head & Shoulders' above ALL the rest in his field by a proverbial 'Country Mile'..!

My 2 cents worth...

PS - Strangely enough Alex Jones knows only too well the 'David Icke' is right on the money with his Theories...

[Amysenthia]

I was fortunate to be able to attend a David Icke lecture here in Cleveland, Ohio last night. He spoke amazingly for over 11 hours and I never quit paying attention once. One of the most interesting new developments mentioned was about the Illuminati/NWO plans to start WWIII. I urge everyone to go to the DavidIcke.com website and view more indepth material about how it is all an Illuminati/Zionist plan to overthrow the governments of the middle east right now with the so called revolutions in order to put their puppets in place to make sure WWIII happens.

So then just imagine that today I wake up to find out that "Face the Nation", is discussing the problem=reaction=solution scenario of going to war with Iran when they are talking about the Republican debates. With the Illuminati backed candidates Mitt Romney and Rick Perry both stating during the debates that they would support going to war with Iran to stop them from making nuclear weapons if negotiating doesn’t work.( Sounds a lot like the weapons of mass destruction scenario that got us involved in Iraq.) HOW CAN WE NEGOTIATE WHEN WE PASSED A LAW THIS WEEK TO CUT OFF DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS! REALLY!!! Plus of course, Ron Paul is never mentioned when talking about the other candidates. This lack of RP coverage is also becoming very blatant.

I just hope that the American people do not fall for this attack on Iran like we did with Irag. Although this time it looks like the attack is going to be started by Israel. Please go to the David Icke website to view all the info about the Zionist controlled government if you are not already familiar with it.

Here is the problem-reaction-solution info that is being trotted out again just like 9/11, Iraq war, banker bailout, etc.

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[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Amysenthia I'm glad you enjoyrd the presentation , I like to keep upto date with Davids interviews and my 'Ickopedia' is
getting bigger each time I listen to him...LOL..Steve

[Lord Sidious]

Speaking for that length of time isn't easy, let me tell you.
7.5 per day for two days is enough.

[Amysenthia]

Honored by your reply your Lordship. Always love your posts!

I couldn't believe not only that he talked that long, but that he kept my undivided attention that long.

[Lord Sidious]

Honored by your reply your Lordship. Always love your posts!

I couldn't believe not only that he talked that long, but that he kept my undivided attention that long.

Did he pace all the time or did he sit down as well?

[Amysenthia]

He started talking at 10:00am. Took a 45 minute break from 1:00 to 1:45. Then two 15 minute breaks at about 5:00 and 7:30. Spoke until 9:15pm. He never even sipped water during his lecture. My feet hurt just watching him. I thought it was an amazing lecture. Even though I was familiar with his material I learned some new things.

[jcocks]

I wish I had gone to his lecture when he was here in Perth.....

[TWINCANS]

Mods, maybe the title could be changed to WWIII, not WWII?

Mr. Icke never ceases to amaze me. His stature is growing almost daily these days, now that his projected worldview is coming true at a government near you.

[ThePythonicCow]

Mods, maybe the title could be changed to WWIII, not WWII?
Done .

[modwiz]

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Mods, maybe the title could be changed to WWIII, not WWII?
Done .

You da man, er, cow. I mean you are simply moovelous.

[syrwong]

I think his strength, unlimited energy and well being are taken care of by some higher dimensional beings . Such an important white piece he is in the illuminatii game.

[ktlight]

THIS IS A MUST WATCH

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[grapevine]

Very interesting, although you'd think that more people in our armies, navies and air forces would be wise to what is really going on . . . I guess we won't really know until there is martial law. Incidentally, I recently received a propaganda remembrance day email from a friend (who used to work at No.10 Downing Street and still keeps in touch via email - these kinds of emails) in which it referred to our armed forces as "The Military". Last night on BBC3 news, the newscaster again referred to the armed forces as "The Military". wtf! Yet another sign that UK is turning into Mini-Me . . . And judging by what is in the press, it very much looks as though we're being prepared for Mini-Me to take a pop at Iran some time soon. I do hope not because I firmly believe what George Galloway says in this video. Thanks ktlight!

[percival tyro]

Thanks ktlight. The video fortifies and brings home to us what we have been trying to uncover and discover in recent times.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTlight I watched this the otherday worth another watch...Cheers Steve

[ktlight]

Great quote: this world is mind made not man made. When they switched from analogue to digital television in the USA, it opened a whole band of frequency which astronomers could see for the first time galaxies in that frequency range.

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[SEAM]

Don Juan, the Mexican Yaqui Indian shaman, tells Carlos Castañeda the following:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you?... You haven't heard all the claims yet. I want to appeal to your analytical mind. Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

'"But how can they do this, don Juan?' [Carlos] asked, somehow angered further by what [don Juan] was saying. "Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver, stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

"I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of when [the predator] made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then, everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man. What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat."

"There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic."

Carlos Castañeda

The Active Side of Infinity - 1998

[sygh]

So, in other words, we get to watch the tele while we wait? We are led to the slaughter but the entertainment on the way is worth the price of admission? Chicken bands, chicken government, up with chickens, astrological oviaries.

I love Carlos, read every book, good stuff, good stuff but I am not alien food fodder. I would leave a bitter taste. Evidently, someone let me out of the coop making me a free ranger. I am a chicken on the lamb! I might even be an alien. That said, I'm not into eating human anything. No, Carlos helped me think outside the box, not outside the chicken coop, no matter how large he claims it is.

There probably are some alien carnivoroushumanors. I wouldn't put it past a species to find us tasty. Thankfully, I've never met an alien who couldn't resist me, at a culinary level. But I can attest to walk-ins, even though I cannot claim I know the source of those walk-ins. However, I feel certain not all aliens are the same. Some may want to chew us, while others may want to chew through us.

[truth4me]

sits like a man but smiles like a REPTILE
she loves him,she loves him but just for a
short while-----the Jean Genie -----David Bowie 1973

I'm an ALLIGATOR,I'm a mama-papa coming for you
I'm the space invader-----Moonage daydream-----David Bowie 1972


Oh yes the reptilians have been in rock music a long time and it seems Mr Bowie was on to something with the Annunaki Reptlilian --human DNA altering -- space invading group of E.T's don't you think? That can't be true ,no way.........

Should I kiss the VIPER'S fang or
herald loud the death of man
I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought....

Quicksand---- 1972 David Bowie ...... Selling thy soul for the sake of Rock and Roll.......................and some people don't like hearing the truth.......

[ktlight]

"David Icke talks with Luke Rudkowski of We Are Change New York at Occupy Wall Street - Excellent Interview"

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[ktlight]

Says America justifies the killing of innocent, defenceless people and is taking the world down a dark, dark road of mass human slaughter, destruction and conquest.

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[scotusa]

Says America justifies the killing of innocent, defenceless people and is taking the world down a dark, dark road of mass human slaughter, destruction and conquest.

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Extremely well done David! Now multiply what you have said to nearly all of today's major Nations and you have the real problem. The controllers playing one against the other to perpetuate their goals and elimination of all their enemies by hapless fools destroying each other (us). Follow the MICs and to who runs them and then back to who runs them and so on and then we will uncover the evil controlling powers. Who has the large attachments necessary to rout them out? Where is John Wayne when you need him...? Is he dead or will life imitate art?

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks KTlight David in fine form giving his thoughts about the contradictions of what should have been the model of freedom , Even the most asleep person if
you could actually get them to watch a presentation like this, would surely realise how we are still just economic slaves proping up various elite governments
who intern serve whether they realise it or not even higher masters with very dubious agendas....Cheers Steve

[Andreash94]

Icke woked me up alot in this years thank you for video:crutch:
Peaceh&Light

[jackovesk]

19th November 2011


...if We will take it...they Will give it to us!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2uGbiYWC3w&feature=player_embedded

PS - Don't know about you guys, but I'm finding it 'Harder & Harder' to participate in this 'Disgusting' Corporate Fascist (NWO Globalist LIE)..!

It all 'Stinks' and I am 'Sick of It'..!

[Jonathon]

It really hits home when you see dead children and infants filled with bullets and covered in blood. I'm so unbelievably sorry. So, so sorry...

[Wockey]

its a mad world and things really need to change - more of these images need to get out to the mainstream media... we are the ones that need to lead this challenge - make sure your friends, colleges and family know what is going on. very disturbing.

"And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you, I find it hard to take
When people run in circles its a very, very
Mad world, mad world"

© ROLAND ORZABAL LIMITED;

[truth4me]

What will it take for people in America to wake up? The media is constantly giving us nothing but goo-goo. America,where who won the football game is more important then had many people who went to bed hungry. I get paid every 2 weeks and the last thing on the bottom of every checkstub is a sentence and it's message is simple "remember! sale one more item!". Sell,sell,sell,buy,buy,buy.----man it gets old. David Icke is the person who's talks resonates with me more then any when it comes to what's really happening in our world.

[ExomatrixTV]

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