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uzn

17th June 2018, 21:56

https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/5/03903_kpw_flying_saucer_haunebu.jpg

Pretty funny that Revell now has a Hanebu 2 Model Kit. I have my serious doubts with the Nazi Saucer stuff but thats just me.

https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/03903_smpw_flying_saucer_haunebu.jpg

See the Revell Site (in german)
https://www.revell.de/produkte/produktneuheiten/flying-saucer-haunebu.html

Here is the "how to" instruction
https://stage.revell.de/fileadmin/import/images/bau/03903_%23BAU_FLYING_SAUCER_HAUNEBU_V01_01_LOW.PDF

KiwiElf

17th June 2018, 23:21

They could always repackage it as George Adamski's Venusian "Scout Ship" Saucer (identical profile to a Haunebu II - coincidence? :idea:), but I doubt it would have the same selling/marketing appeal ;)

(Ooops,... I spoke too soon, they DO have a 1/72 model of that, too! (bottom image & video - from HAND HEAD/WAVE, a Japanese kit, not Revell :bigsmile:)

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Haunebu II

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Adamski Venusian "Scout Ship" cutaway

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Adamski Venusian "Scout Ship" profile

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Adamski Venusian "Scout Ship" model

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Sunny-side-up

18th June 2018, 20:34

Hi uzn cool post.

Where on the products site is that model?
Can't seem to find them.

KiwiElf

19th June 2018, 09:52

Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)

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Also available from Hand Head Models 1/72 (same manufacturer as the Adamski Saucer mentioned earlier)

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There's a smaller 1/144 version from Pegasus Models (also from Japan, cost is NZ$120 & available from here for us Kiwis, which I might add, is grossly over-priced - you can get it for a fraction of that online (like 25% of this cost) from other suppliers, including Squadron Models. The Pegasus model is VERY simple and doesn't feature an interior.):

https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/pegasus-hobbies-1144-haunebu-ii-saucer-model-kit/26854979

Builder

19th June 2018, 17:29

KiwiElf

20th June 2018, 03:14

They could always repackage it as George Adamski's Venusian "Scout Ship" Saucer (identical profile to a Haunebu II - coincidence? :idea:)

When did the (questionable) images and blueprints of the Haunebu design surface? My guess is after Adamski...

Yes, correct, sort-of! - for the Western World, anyways. :) (although that might not be correct for Germany). The difference being that the Nazi's were trying to keep a lid on the program, whereas Adamski was trying to get every bit of media attention on his "contacts" that he could garner.

Given that the internet wasn't what it is now, first time I saw/heard of the Haunebu's (and other alleged German Saucer projects), was in the mid 80's - early 90's. However, the witnesses giving evidence at the time, & the Haunebu II design, - also known as the RFZ-6 (and alleged construction), precede Adamski's sightings by a decade (1942). Other designs, drawings, plans etc themselves, went back to before WWII. (Earliest Reports go back to the 1920's - 1930's of developmental work with Vrils etc; the alleged 1936 crash of a UFO/aliens in the Black Forest, the much larger Haunebu III was allegedly constructed & flown before the end of WWII...).

(Likewise, the Anglo-American version of events in WWII history don't always match the German/Japanese versions - I would suggest take all of them with a healthy grain ... or boulder - of the proverbial. ;))

It really does deserve a thread of its own. ;)

(My guess? If both scenarios are in fact true, what Adamski witnessed wasn't Venusians; it was humans in Haunebu's. Adamski's sightings are close to the period of the infamous Washington DC UFO flyovers ... also believed to be "German UFO's", tied in with Operation High Jump. ;))

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Can we exclude an extraterrestrian contact at that time? One of the last large secrets of our century is the occult past of the Third Reich and its secret societies Templer, Thule, Vril and the 'Lords of the Black Sus - SS'. An integrated technology that derived from occult secret knowledge - i.e. anti-gravitation driven round planes (UFO) with the code names Vril and Haunebu (V7) - has never been made available to the public under the cover of military secrecy by the allied victorious powers. The occult secret societies of the Third Reich ranked among the best old orientalists of the world back then and knew about the existence of extraterrestrian technology that was brought down to Earth in old Sumeria by the gods who 'came down from heaven'.

KiwiElf

20th June 2018, 05:20

Hi uzn cool post.

Where on the products site is that model?
Can't seem to find them.

AMAZON are bound to have all the different variations (with perhaps the exception of the Revell vsn), Sunny-side-up, or your local hobby shop (OR they will order it for you). None of them seem to be cheap! ;) Will have to add it to my "To Get" list, (maybe for Xmas!). With all that detail, it's a pity they don't really levitate! :)

BMJ

20th June 2018, 15:01

Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)

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XEkZ1S2qZXk
Also available from Hand Head Models 1/72 (same manufacturer as the Adamski Saucer mentioned earlier)

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There's a smaller 1/144 version from Pegasus Models (also from Japan, cost is NZ$120 & available from here for us Kiwis):

https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/pegasus-hobbies-1144-haunebu-ii-saucer-model-kit/26854979

Ummm so who's the geek again Kiwielf? :blushing:

Anyway on a similar note regarding what if aircraft, here is a link to a site that profiles aircraft that were in development by the luftwaffe during WW2, and is a bit more realistic and possible.

Link: http://www.luft46.com

http://www.luft46.com/logo-1a.gif

uzn

20th June 2018, 17:47

I think Revell pulled the model from its Shop. It was said that the german officials contacted Revell and asked them if they where into spreading conspiracy theories now and engaging in falseifying history. So I guess Revell did not want to take the heat.

Focke Wulf TA 183 (officially never flew)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/5d/92/ae5d92a28e60fff2748b8ca0fbaaca95.jpg

Cidersomerset

20th June 2018, 19:20

You could also build a Roswell saucer , Area 51 UFO or TR 3 B....

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91j4TqdiQeL._SL1500_.jpg

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KiwiElf

20th June 2018, 22:37

Builder

21st June 2018, 07:10

Those "officials" must have no sense of humour!

Of course not, they are Germans! ;-)

KiwiElf

21st June 2018, 08:05

I think Revell pulled the model from its Shop. It was said that the german officials contacted Revell and asked them if they where into spreading conspiracy theories now and engaging in falseifying history. So I guess Revell did not want to take the heat.

Related Article here (sound familiar? Mockingbird programming in action. ;) WTF does this have to do with "child protection groups"? Really???): :idea:

https://www.rt.com/news/430259-nazi-flying-saucer-amazon/

Nazi flying saucer model removed from Amazon in Germany after public outcry
Published time: 19 Jun, 2018 21:47
Edited time: 20 Jun, 2018 12:43

A scale model of a fictional Nazi flying saucer has been removed from sale after the controversial product faced harsh criticism from German historians and child protection groups.

The scale plastic model, entitled ‘Flying Saucer Haunebu II,’ has been sold on Amazon for €49.99 since May. But the model’s producer, Revell, announced on Tuesday that it has removed the model from its stock due to “criticism in recent days.”

German historians were angry with the misleading description of the made-up aircraft in the manual, which presented it as a real historical one. Revell called Haunebu II “an aircraft from the World War II era,” claiming that its air-capable prototypes were developed in mid-1943, but that their tests couldn’t be carried out due to the conflict.

Jens Wehner, a historian from the Military History Museum in Dresden, has decried the model as “dangerous nonsense.” Attributing the Nazis the capabilities that they never possessed is “unacceptable,” Wehner told NDR broadcaster.

He was backed by political scientist Dierk Borstel, who said that items that “promote Nazi legends or indirectly support right-wing conspiracy theories” should not be put on sale.

The German Child Protection Association was also concerned that the toy, which has the insignias of Luftwaffe, Nazi Germany’s aerial warfare branch, on it, would find its way into the hands of the children. “As a child protection association, we generally reject toys that can lead to ideologization,” federal managing director Cordula Lasner-Tietze told NDR.

Revell spokesperson told Interfax that “the product wasn’t intended for kids as it was wrongly reported by the media, but for grown up scale model collectors.” However, she acknowledged that “the text on the product was incorrect and the indication of the age range was misleading,” adding that the “company reacted and won’t sell the product anymore.”

Haunebu II by Revell is currently unavailable on Amazon, but the website still sells the model of the same mythical Nazi saucer from another producer.

Some conspiracy theories have linked WWII-era UFO sightings to a secret flying saucer program of the Third Reich. Despite not being backed by facts, those claims have found reflection in pop culture, with numerous sci-fi novels, movies and video games depicting Nazi flying saucer bases in Antarctica or on the Moon.

Hmmmm how convenient. Using the same logic, will they also ban all period military models with Nazi Swastikas/symbols on them? (So, going by the article, actually, three+ people got upset about it? LOL):ROFL:

Definitely going to get one, now - heck, I'll get all of them! Instant Collectible! (Keep it in the box, in a few years it'll be worth gold) :thumbsup:

BMJ

21st June 2018, 11:18

Focke Wulf TA 183 (officially never flew)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/5d/92/ae5d92a28e60fff2748b8ca0fbaaca95.jpg

True, but with the mass migration of nazi officials to Argentina immediately after WW2 came the knowledge about the Focke Wulf TA 183 that would form the basis for the Argentinian aircraft designated the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II.

Quote from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_183

"The Focke-Wulf Ta 183 Huckebein was a design for a jet-powered fighter aircraft intended as the successor to the Messerschmitt Me 262 and other day fighters in Luftwaffe service during World War II. It was developed only to the extent of wind tunnel models when the war ended, but the basic design was further developed postwar in Argentina as the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II. The name Huckebein is a reference to a trouble-making raven (Hans Huckebein der Unglücksrabe) from an illustrated story in 1867 by Wilhelm Busch.[2]

Quote from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IAe_33_Pulqui_II

"The FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II (in the indigenous language Mapuche, Pulqúi: Arrow)[2] was a jet fighter aircraft designed by Kurt Tank in the late 1940s in Argentina, under the Perón government, and built by the Fábrica Militar de Aviones (FMA).[3] Embodying many of the design elements of the wartime Focke-Wulf Ta 183, an unrealized fighter project,[4] the FMA envisioned the IAe 33 Pulqui II as a successor to the postwar Gloster Meteor F4 in service with the Fuerza Aérea Argentina."

Also the "TA" in the Focke Wulf TA 183 designation indicated it was a Kurt Tank design, the same Kurt Tank that designed the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/FMA_IAe_33_Pulqui_II.jpg

Versus:

http://www.luft46.com/fw/3bft183i.jpg

BMJ

21st June 2018, 11:31

Hi uzn cool post.

Where on the products site is that model?
Can't seem to find them.

Sunny-side-up you can get the kit from squadron links below.

Squadron Models 1/72 Haunebu II - German Flying Saucer - SQM0001
Link: https://www.squadron.com/Squadron-Models-1-72-Haunebu-II-German-Flying-Sa-p/sqm0001.htm

Squadron Models 1/72 Haunebu II Premium Edition - SQM0002
Link: https://www.squadron.com/Squadron-Models-1-72-Haunebu-II-Premium-Edition-p/sqm0002.htm

Pegasus 1/144 Haunebu II Saucer - PEG9119
Link: https://www.squadron.com/Haunebu-II-Saucer-p/peg9119.htm

BMJ

21st June 2018, 11:59

Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!)

Ummm so who's the geek again Kiwielf? :blushing:

LOL - ME! (It was self-depracating) ;)

(Interesting comment about "officials" putting the heat on REVELL, uzn - one side's myth is another side's truth, eh?

Those "officials" must have no sense of humour! I hope they don't ban the upcoming "IRON SKY II" movie! ).

If true, those sort of over-the-top actions from "officials" unwittingly draw more attention to it, making me even more likely to believe there's something to it. :idea:

I confess I am a geek too Kiwielf :happythumbsup:

Political Correctness has infiltrated modelling to and dictates the art on most new model kits.

For example below is an image of the recently released Airfix 1/72 Messerchmitt Me262A-1A, note that the historically incorrect absence of the swastika from the tail surface on all images of the Me262A-1A.

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/382220467255_/AIRFIX-A03088-Messerschmitt-ME262A-1A-172-Aircraft-Model-Kit.jpg

BACK TO TOPIC BEFORE THE MODS GIVE ME A BACK TO TOPIC. :Angel:

Did You See Them

27th June 2018, 08:53

LMFAO !

Collector items now !!
Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !

"Toy Recalled For Teaching Kids That Nazis Achieved Space Travel"

"The toy company has pulled the 69-part set, known as the Haunebu II, from store shelves. But you can still find plenty of the toys available for sale online. The Nazi UFO is even seen on the box blasting Allied planes out of the sky—a disgusting image to promote, to say the least.

The real-life flying saucer project was started in 1934 and some conspiracy theorists believe that the Nazis actually did achieve flight with the vehicle in 1943. Some believe that the Nazis hid these UFOs in secret bases in places like Antartica, and the History Channel even devoted a 2009 episode of its show “UFO Hunters” to the Nazi plans for space travel. But there’s no real evidence that the Nazis achieved flight with these strange contraptions.

“Unfortunately, our product description does not adequately express this and we apologize for it,” Revell said"

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/06/flying-saucer-toy-recalled-for-teaching-kids-that-nazis-achieved-space-travel/

KiwiElf

27th June 2018, 09:04

Builder

28th June 2018, 06:40

Collector items now !!
Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !

Just checked on the Amazon Germany website, the price has shot up to 490 Euros!!

KiwiElf

28th June 2018, 07:39

Collector items now !!
Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !

Just checked on the Amazon Germany website, the price has shot up to 490 Euros!!

Yup; I'm not surprised. Try and get one in the box, un-assembled (and look after the box as well as the model; keep it in brand new, pristine condition. It's worth paying the extra shipping! Also look around on eBay etc - some sellers are completely oblivious to what they're worth and there are bargains "out there"! Amazon can be quite pricey in that respect.)

(My Dad bought me an Airfix Lyons Maid Stingray kit (Gerry Anderson TV predecessor to Thunderbirds), when I was a kid - mid 60's era - for the equivalent of 60 pence at the time. It was a limited run, only available through the Lyons Maid promotion in the TV21 Comic (below) of the same era. (Even the original comics will fetch 20-50 pounds EACH).

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Unmade, in the original box - if you can find one - is worth over $1,000 pounds. Not bad for a few pieces of old plastic!

I wasn't kidding when I said it would be worth gold in a few years. ;) :thumbsup:

https://www.amazon.com/Entertainment-Sci-Fi-Collectibles-Fine-Art/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A5088769011%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A10442499011

KiwiElf

29th June 2018, 00:04

Good News (maybe)! :)

I asked our local Model Hobby shop to discreetly ask the Revell Rep if they had any for sale "out the back of their warehouse". The rep wasn't aware of the ban but does have them and the shop has ordered two (this is in NZ). Price & delivery TBC.

Will keep the thread advised - it may go somewhere... or nowhere! Talk nicely to your local Revell dealer... ;)

uzn

25th July 2018, 18:48

Nintendo does not have any problems like Revell with Nazi Saucers in Games for the Nintendo Switch ;)

The Game is "Aces of the Luftwaffe Squadron"

https://cdn03.nintendo-europe.com/media/images/10_share_images/games_15/nintendo_switch_download_software_1/H2x1_NSwitchDS_AcesOfTheLuftwaffeSquadron_image1600w.jpg

https://handy-games.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Aces-Squadron_02_1920x1080.jpg

ichingcarpenter

25th July 2018, 21:03

Nazi UFO Toy Pulled for Historical Inaccuracy

A model of the nonexistent Nazi UFO "Haunebu II" produced by model company Revell will no longer be produced after criticism about its historical inaccuracy. The model's packaging, which falsely proclaimed the "round aircraft" was the first object able to fly in space with a top speed of 6000 kph (over 3700 mph), failed to mention that the craft was never built, drawing fire from The German Children's Protection Association (DKSB) and Dresden's Military History Museum (MHM), according to German publication, The Local.

While Revel produces plenty of models depicting fictional spacecraft and real-life Nazi war machines this crossover product drew criticism because its lack of disclosure that the craft never existed or flew plays into prevalent, ahistorical narratives that overestimate the Nazi's level of technology and scientific innovations and serve to mythologize the fascist regime.

As Military History Museum historian Jens Wehner told German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung:

"At that time it was technologically impossible to build something like this. ... Enthusiasts can use this as a strategy to cast doubt on what we know today about National Socialism."

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a21750317/nazi-ufo-model-taken-off-shelves-for-historical-inaccuracy/

Oh come on I would love to have a model of this and the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte – Hitlers Heavy Tank Design

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/P1000-tank.jpg

KiwiElf

25th July 2018, 21:42

Well other kitset manufacturers & The Flight Sim Community don't have a problem with it either. (and IMO, I don't consider the Nazi Saucer program to be any more "fictional" than Roswell!)

Famed FlightSim Aircraft designer, Bill Ortis, will soon be releasing his Haunebu IIa payware version from his FlightSim model company, Lionheart Creations (altho he may want to correct his spelling of "Haunebu" ;)) - click to enlarge

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http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Haunebu2A.html

Over the years, Bill has produced some spectacular real & fictional models for the popular Microsoft Flight Simulator Series; check out his "hangar" on what's available here (click on the aircraft image to see the full range):

http://www.lionheartcreations.com/

And Freeware models including the Saucer from the TV Series, "The Invaders" (similar design).

http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Freeware.html

The up-tight German authorities may be able to put the brakes on Revell (it's a German company), but good luck with the rest of the world! :thumbsup:

PS - I checked with our local model shop the other day & as far as I know, my 2 x Revell Haunebu II kits are on the way & expected to be here in 3 weeks - we'll see if they "disappear" enroute. ;)

KiwiElf

21st February 2019, 09:44

UPDATE: Am happy to advise all interested parties, that I'm now the owner of the (banned) Revell Haunebu II model! :)

(Quite a story; after a five-month wait, in November last year, the local Model shop I ordered it from burned down. :( I thought that was the end of it. Last month, I received an unexpected call from the model shop - which had relocated - who informed me it had arrived).

It's stashed in the wardrobe in its original wrapping. Cost: EU49.99 EURO which worked out to NZ$160. (So much for the three-week delivery - I think they rowed the boat from Germany - twice!) ;)

There is a God! (talk nicely to your Revell dealer - bribes may help) :happythumbsup:

conk

21st February 2019, 19:29

Does the kit come with a vial of mercury? ;)

Did You See Them

21st February 2019, 20:26

Nice.
Are you Going to build or keep ?

KiwiElf

21st February 2019, 21:01

Nice.
Are you Going to build or keep ?

Was hoping to get two, build one & keep the other, but two other lucky Kiwi's beat me to it (three actually came in).

So for now, it will stay sealed in the box due to it's potential collector's value.

(The strange thing is, despite the claims in the "banned" articles, there is absolutely nothing on the box that claims that these saucers were in any way "real"). ie, I am mystified as to why they were then banned? (Fake News claims???)

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Does the kit come with a vial of mercury? ;)

LOL - I haven't opened it! Just a wee shake. Nothing went bang, whirrrrr, BEEPs... (or ticking noises!!!) and nothing leaking out of it, mercury or otherwise. No Schnapps either! :) I was at least hoping it might levitate! ;)

Did You See Them

22nd February 2019, 15:34

Yep - Keeper for sure !
I'm a builder - but even I would have to sit on that one !

I'm just about to start my spring project building the Apollo 11 and LUT from educraft paper diversions ( http://www.educraftdiversions.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1%3A144-LUT ) in time for 50th Moon shot anniversary.

http://cdn3.volusion.com/muvhv.zrarv/v/vspfiles/photos/1-colon-110-LUT-3.jpg

I have a nice Estes Apollo 11 to finish the model.

Builder

22nd February 2019, 18:45

Does the kit come with a vial of mercury? ;)

LOL - I haven't opened it! Just a wee shake. Nothing went bang, whirrrrr, BEEPs... (or ticking noises!!!) and nothing leaking out of it, mercury or otherwise. No Schnapps either! :) I was at least hoping it might levitate! ;)

Here is a hack:
Try weighing the unopened box while rotating it on a ball bearing ;-)

Smell the Roses

22nd February 2019, 18:58

Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)

Squadron Models isn't afraid of the Nazi symbol! My son is really into building models. His Revell Hindenburg model has a weird red rectangle with a blank white circle where the Nazi symbol should be. It looks like an inverted Japanese flag. I wonder if he would want to build a saucer. I will ask him.

KiwiElf

23rd February 2019, 09:50

@ Did You See Them

WOW! That is some impressive model-making skills! (your picture) :thumbsup:

I grew up with & was inspired by Gerry Anderson of Thunderbirds fame, (fantastic model-making for his various TV shows, and one of the first to incorporate "weathering").

When I was younger, I was a builder (it's a real creative skill which I much enjoy and requires a lot of patience, as I'm sure you know! :)).

I learned later that rare models are worth more in their boxes. (A relatively cheap investment! I have a bit of a collection - see my earlier post on the STINGRAY).

I used my "banged up" model of that (STINGRAY) to create what is planned to be a new cutaway illustration. The new base illustration is the top left and my model is bottom right. (Examples below).

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(I've never quite understood the need for some people to have to touch them! :confused: A few have suffered destruction from kids not being able to keep their hands off them, or their parents having a clue of the painstaking work that goes into them)! PLEASE DON'T TOUCH! :)

They are a work of art, not "toys"!

So now I hide the completed ones away, out of reach. Selective "eyes only". ;)

These days, I'm (trying) to learn 3-D Modelling on a computer, mostly something I can "fly" in Flight Simulator. Ooooof - quite a learning curve from a solid real "thing".

On the subject of "Flying Saucers", here's one I'm sure you'll recognise - a FSim model, incredibly detailed with all the "right" noises, lighting, animation and complete working interior. It will fly from (cyber) London to New York in a few minutes! :)

Creating the "texture maps" in Photoshop for a CGI model is much like painting a solid model; pristine "new" or "weathering" with all the scratches, stains & blemishes to create that "real" look.

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(I've got a couple of different models of the plastic kitsets of the Jupiter 2 and Area S4 UFO as well - both collectibles - and no Swastikas!).

I'm hoping Bill Ortis' Flight Sim model of the Haunebu II isn't far away!

@ Merry Mom

I would say, "go for it!" :)

A Voice from the Mountains

23rd February 2019, 11:19

Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

Yeah, since we all know those are bound to be highly accurate. ;)

It is a handsome model though. I used to collect WW2 models when I was a teenager. It's educational in itself.

Jens Wehner, a historian from the Military History Museum in Dresden, has decried the model as “dangerous nonsense.” Attributing the Nazis the capabilities that they never possessed is “unacceptable,” Wehner told NDR broadcaster.

I might like "dangerous nonsense." It seems to be somehow different than all the other, more mundane, boring forms of nonsense, doesn't it?

Almost as if there is actually some sense to it after all, or else why would it be so "dangerous" to consider? I wonder if this same German official gets his panties all wadded up about men pretending to be women, because to me, that would more deservingly be called "dangerous nonsense." In fact, that kind of make-believe has an over 40% suicide attempt rate, so people pretending that they can change genders even has a quantifiable casualty rate, once it dawns on these poor people that they'll never look like anything other than a tranny. That's dangerous nonsense, but I have a feeling this German official today would praise it as a positive good for German society, despite Nazis undoubtedly having much lower urges to kill themselves. Projection and irony.

The stuff about Highjump and all the rest is probably why this model exists in the first place. More people are awake and aware to this kind of information than the authorities are comfortable with, and the way this model was handled is just one more indication of that.

A Voice from the Mountains

23rd February 2019, 11:27

Does the kit come with a vial of mercury? ;)

FWIW, the recent helicopter activity in Los Angeles brought out enough military commentary that I now question how any helicopter works.

One convincing set of comments I read indicated that helicopters have had anti-gravity devices, with the propellers more or less for show, for many years. They have boxes underneath them, with some generic, meaningless name, where an anti-gravity device sits.

Maybe someone just felt like pulling peoples' legs, but if so, he got me. I just wish I could relate what he said more faithfully from memory. Watching some of those helicopters maneuver around the streets of Los Angeles so quickly and nimbly, I thought something weird was going on with their movement before I even started reading the military commentary on them.

That would be something if they've been fielding this technology for decades in front of all of us, and we didn't even know it.

BMJ

23rd February 2019, 17:51