Plan to save the World- Q

[mojo]

Hi all,
Posted this in the Transition into Trump but it's such a powerful a message it should have a separate introduction. turiya introduced me to Q in his ongoing thread and here in this video is a well composed and clear message encompassing history and politics together...

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[KiwiElf]

Thanks, mojo (already posted on the "Q" thread a couple of days ago, too. Great video - especially for anyone new to "Q") :happythumbsup:

It's already gone viral (notice the number of hits! = 440,565) :thumbsup:

[Justplain]

There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

b) what would Edward Snowden say about this video's claim that the nsa are the good guys?

[onawah]

Bumping this. :bump: :thumbsup:
And will add that videos with background music like the one in the OP are designed not to appeal to our higher faculties of reasoning, but to our emotions, which are infinitely more easily hoodwinked :wink: and manipulated.

ustplain;1232635]There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

b) what would Edward Snowden say about this video's claim that the nsa are the good guys?[/B]

[KiwiElf]

There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

b) what would Edward Snowden say about this video's claim that the nsa are the good guys?

I'd say, just like the DOJ, FBI & the CIA, rogue actors in all; "A few bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch". Certain individuals are attracted to certain professions, each with their own strengths ... and flaws. That's "human".

Contrary to some anti-Trump opinions on Avalon, we Trump or "Q" supporters are not oblivious to Trump's faults or history, either. The Trump bailout (amongst other things) was discussed on the "Q" thread weeks ago, too. Just about EVERY bank on the planet is owned by the Rothschilds. So what? (Ever had a mortgage or taken out a bank loan????). BTW, Ivanka dated a Rothschild once. Are you suggesting that EVERY Rothschild is bad? I believe that's called, "Guilt by Association". :)

That bailout was almost 30 years ago - I don't know your age Justplain, but are you still the same as you were 30 years ago? (or even 10 or 20 years ago)?. You've never made a few mistakes in your life? (I sure as hell wouldn't like to be judged now by what I did 30 years ago)! :Angel:

Do you have some solid proof that Trump's "part of the Cabal" - the very same "Cabal or Deep State" that "Q" & Trump are exposing? Doesn't look like it from where I'm sitting. Sorry, broad generalizations & uninformed opinions don't cut it.

Sure, Trump's not perfect; (who is?), but he's the "present Sheriff in town". And the majority of Americans voted him there whether the "anti-Trumpers" like it or not. (Would you have preferred Hillary)?

Perhaps judge his actions by his recent achievements, & what he does now & tomorrow; the next few weeks, months & years. (I'll give you a clue; Trump's an expert in bankrupty proceedings, (among other things), & technically, America is bankrupt... let that sink in for a moment, along with the words in the graphic below...).

Be sure to check out the many X22 & Praying Medic Reports. ;)

Hmmmmmmm :sherlock:

Heck, why should I even care? I'm half a world away. (But my eyes are WIDE OPEN & I'm wide awake - I DO care... and trust me, if "Q" - or Trump really go "off the rails" (beyond the Fakestream Media BS), I'll be one of the first to call them out!) :)

A friendly reminder - this thread is primarily about "Q's" message...

Please DON'T drive a bulldozer through mojo's living room... :happythumbsup:


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[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
As the video said: "Polished version" Complete propaganda! Complete Propaganda!
chancy

[Michelle Marie]

Here is one girl's reaction to this video. She feels strongly, and she has good reason to.

Reaction to Q Save the World Video
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She is all in.

This is good against evil. EVERYBODY is on one side or the other.

--GOOD/ LOVE/TRUTH--- or --EVIL/HATE/SECRETS&LIES

Behavior & communication are indicators, it seems.
Some people believe in living with integrity and treating people well. :heart:
They would like to see a world based on those values.


MM

[Lettherebelight]

Bumping this. :bump: :thumbsup:
And will add that videos with background music like the one in the OP are designed not to appeal to our higher faculties of reasoning, but to our emotions, which are infinitely more easily hoodwinked :wink: and manipulated.

ustplain;1232635]There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

b) what would Edward Snowden say about this video's claim that the nsa are the good guys?[/B]

It should be noted that Q’s messages are not accompanied by any music and we are often advised to “think logically.”

Logically speaking, Q has shared a few videos by inspired followers that use inspirational music. I think these vids do encourage a community of people (who are following the Q messages) who may feel isolated from one another.

Music is a sacred science, language of the soul. It is indeed very powerful. And it has certainly been controlled and weaponised by organisations over the years in many ways.

Recognising the power of music, do you feel music should be safely relegated, used only as a backdrop to fictional stories made for entertainment purposes, such as in Hollywood?

I think the maker of the films used this music in a congruent way that echoed his emotional dialogue,

...and the fact that that it connects with what other people are feeling is a natural phenomena.

I recognise that the music is indeed being used to spread a message, (or “propaganda”, as some would call it). However, from a logical and ethical point of view, inspirational music, when used to echo noble human emotions such as honour, justice and liberty, is a good and beneficial use of that energy, tool, science.

[norman]

The guy who made the video got a couple of {implied) facts wrong but that doesn't mean the whole idea is bogus. The clues about whats happening are so cryptic that it would be a miracle if one person had got the whole story straight.

The NSA was created a very long time ago, around 1952. It's not something that was put together since the internet age got going.

Another implied "fact" I nearly choked on was the idea that the Taliban where who the 'deep-state' got their heroin from. As far as I can tell, the Taliban cut off the supply of heroin, and had to be got rid of because of that.

[Blacklight43]

Was Edward Snowdan the narrator of this piece?

[Bill Ryan]

Well, it's got nothing to do with 'Q'. This is a videomaker hitchhiking on the back of that meme and using it to attract attention to a professionally made presentation.

And yes, it's got annoying music that's designed to hook and propagandize, albeit for a commendable cause. (And yes, some of the facts are incorrect. :) )

[onawah]

One can be neither anti-Trump nor pro-Trump, but pro-TRUTH, and inclined to tread cautiously.
When the only option seems to be to takes sides, the truth is much more easily obfuscated.
Current conditions may be leading to a positive conclusion, but in view of the long, negative history that has led up to them, so much corruption in the "leadership" and division in the public could also lead to chaos and bloodshed or the creation of a new tyrant.



Contrary to some anti-Trump opinions on Avalon, we Trump or "Q" supporters are not oblivious to Trump's faults or history, either.

[mojo]

Hi onawah,
I think we could have asked the same of past leadership and say neither anti-Obama nor Pro-Obama but Pro-truth, and tread cautiously? But it didn't work out that way. He was hailed as the Messiah, and recalling the Time cover and the Nobel Peace prize and the feigning of the mainstream media with their fluff questions is such a contrast with today...


so much corruption in the "leadership" and division in the public could also lead to chaos and bloodshed or the creation of a new tyrant.

Although I see your point about creating a savior or tyrant in any one man or woman but great Kiwi's response to recognizing we all including Trump have faults... We should not forget history and the few Presidents that warned us of what was going on with THE DEEP STATE and their disparity they have shown already between the two Admins is plainly visible.

[onawah]

No argument there, Mojo, but I just don't think the full shadow side of the Trump Admin. is really clear yet, and I'm not one for hero-worship, no matter who, or jumping the gun.

Hi onawah,
I think we could have asked the same of past leadership and say neither anti-Obama nor Pro-Obama but Pro-truth, and tread cautiously? But it didn't work out that way. He was hailed as the Messiah, and recalling the Time cover and the Nobel Peace prize and the feigning of the mainstream media with their fluff questions is such a contrast with today...


so much corruption in the "leadership" and division in the public could also lead to chaos and bloodshed or the creation of a new tyrant.

Although I see your point about creating a savior or tyrant in any one man or woman but great Kiwi's response to recognizing we all including Trump have faults... We should not forget history and the few Presidents that warned us of what was going on with THE DEEP STATE and their disparity they have shown already between the two Admins is plainly visible.

[mojo]

I agree with you, but hope you agree there have been voices, 'the forgotten ones,' that felt there was no leader standing in the gap for them for so long, so yes their excitement is palpable yet Trump has enough antagonists to not warrant hero worship on a broad scale, especially the media... Also it would be good to credit those things that have made America better and the statistics line up, such as consumer confidence is high, jobs, national security/safety there's reasons to feel good... yet the division never seemed greater...

[Michelle Marie]

One can be neither anti-Trump nor pro-Trump, but pro-TRUTH, and inclined to tread cautiously.
When the only option seems to be to takes sides, the truth is much more easily obfuscated.
Current conditions may be leading to a positive conclusion, but in view of the long, negative history that has led up to them, so much corruption in the "leadership" and division in the public could also lead to chaos and bloodshed or the creation of a new tyrant.



Contrary to some anti-Trump opinions on Avalon, we Trump or "Q" supporters are not oblivious to Trump's faults or history, either.


"The only option is to take sides." We have infinite choices/options. Why do we have to take sides? Can't we work together and be unified by the truth? Truth IS an option.

Truth is neutral. It eliminates the need to take sides.

But if Truth sorts right from wrong, then we can at least see clearly.

MM

[Michelle Marie]

I agree with you, but hope you agree there have been voices, 'the forgotten ones,' that felt there was no leader standing in the gap for them for so long, so yes their excitement is palpable yet Trump has enough antagonists to not warrant hero worship on a broad scale, especially the media... Also it would be good to credit those things that have made America better and the statistics line up, such as consumer confidence is high, jobs, national security/safety there's reasons to feel good... yet the division never seemed greater...

Feeling good about new hope because LOTS of people are working together to expose truth does not exalt one person over another. We are all in this together.

We all have faults. We have all made errors. But we can still chip in and join the fight for truth and the freedom that it brings. ...and be kind to one another as we work cooperatively. :heart:

MM

[onawah]

Agreed, MM, but I will feel much more optimistic when Trump shows a commitment to cleaning up the environment instead of exploiting it, actually does something about vaccines (which continue on the increase unabated) and Big Pharma, organic standards (See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103155-FDA-Found-Glyphosate-in-Nearly-All-Foods-Tested-and-Hid-the-Results&p=1232449#post1232449 ) commits to helping make available more advanced energy technologies instead of furthering the dangerous harvesting of fossil fuels, follows through his commitment to safeguarding the most vulnerable and disadvantaged (cuts in SNAP benefits and HUD are what we have seen so far, and continued threats to Social Security) and many more issues along those lines, I will be more cautiously optimistic.
Of course, some will classify those kinds of issues as socialist, but the reality is that when we don't commit to them, we end up with even worse scenarios.
No question Trump has been good so far at working to clear the field of his political opposition, which is great since they are so incredibly corrupt, but whether he is doing that primarily to empower himself (and his allies, whoever they may be) politically, or to make positive change more possible remains to be seen, imho.
Though if will be great even if he just clears the field enough so that whoever takes their place can move forward with such issues; I'm inclined to think that is the more likely scenario.


I agree with you, but hope you agree there have been voices, 'the forgotten ones,' that felt there was no leader standing in the gap for them for so long, so yes their excitement is palpable yet Trump has enough antagonists to not warrant hero worship on a broad scale, especially the media... Also it would be good to credit those things that have made America better and the statistics line up, such as consumer confidence is high, jobs, national security/safety there's reasons to feel good... yet the division never seemed greater...

Feeling good about new hope because LOTS of people are working together to expose truth does not exalt one person over another. We are all in this together.

We all have faults. We have all made errors. But we can still chip in and join the fight for truth and the freedom that it brings. ...and be kind to one another as we work cooperatively. :heart:

MM

[Michelle Marie]

Agreed, MM, but I will feel much more optimistic when Trump shows a commitment to cleaning up the environment instead of exploiting it, actually does something about vaccines (which continue on the increase unabated) and Big Pharma, commits to helping make available more advanced energy technologies instead of furthering the dangerous harvesting of fossil fuels, follows through his commitment to safeguarding the most vulnerable and disadvantaged (cuts in SNAP benefits and HUD are what we have seen so far, and continued threats to Social Security) and many more issues along those lines, I will be more cautiously optimistic.
Of course, some will classify those kinds of issues as socialist, but the reality is that when we don't commit to them, we end up with even worse scenarios.
No question Trump has been good so far at working to clear the field of his political opposition, which is great since they are so incredibly corrupt, but whether he is doing that primarily to empower himself (and his allies, whoever they may be) politically, or to make positive change more possible remains to be seen, imho.
Though if will be great even if he just clears the field enough so that whoever takes their place can move forward with such issues; I'm inclined to think that is the more likely scenario.


I agree with you, but hope you agree there have been voices, 'the forgotten ones,' that felt there was no leader standing in the gap for them for so long, so yes their excitement is palpable yet Trump has enough antagonists to not warrant hero worship on a broad scale, especially the media... Also it would be good to credit those things that have made America better and the statistics line up, such as consumer confidence is high, jobs, national security/safety there's reasons to feel good... yet the division never seemed greater...

Feeling good about new hope because LOTS of people are working together to expose truth does not exalt one person over another. We are all in this together.

We all have faults. We have all made errors. But we can still chip in and join the fight for truth and the freedom that it brings. ...and be kind to one another as we work cooperatively. :heart:

MM

I'm completely with you on that. I'm not entirely focused on politics at the federal level, and not entirely on Trump. We are ALL needed to play our part. I like being on the email list for the Mercury Project that you pointed out to me, btw. See. RFK is doing his part, too. Trump is not going to do all of it, especially not all at once. But the same bad actors are behind a LOT of this stuff, so what he is doing is important. The Anons are doing their work digging and sharing, PA members are learning and sharing, we are all a part of this.

Check out the research on environmental terrorism thread, too. There's stuff going on that they keep hidden, out of the news, and out of our awareness as much as possible.

We need to be aware of ALL of it.

Geoengineering and bioterrorism (vaccines) and man-made disasters, DEWs, all are used together. We are learning the Truth about all of it.

We are using our awareness of smart meters and 5G to take action, too. Sharing this information is important.

MM

[norman]

8 years will fly by. Trump isn't going to get it all done, or anything like it.

Before he can stick the knife into big pharma he's got to create economic muscle that can hold it all together when they collapse. That's a real biggy, because they are what finances a lot of the MSM fake news chanels.

He has to be strategic and clever. If he upsets the economy by attacking crooked industries, he'll be out of there in a flash.

[Michelle Marie]

8 years will fly by. Trump isn't going to get it all done, or anything like it.

Before he can stick the knife into big pharma he's got to create economic muscle that can hold it all together when they collapse. That's a real biggy, because they are what finances a lot of the MSM fake news chanels.

He has to be strategic and clever. If he upsets the economy by attacking crooked industries, he'll be out of there in a flash.

Yes, strategic and clever...and stealth!!

I bet he is still learning more details, too.

MM

[onawah]

The question is, how much more time do we have?
We are already facing so many huge problems that it's easy to why so many of the younger generations are overwhelmed and disengaged.

[turiya]

8 years will fly by. Trump isn't going to get it all done, or anything like it.
That is the real concern for me ==> Who will come onto the scene after Trump finishes his 2nd term?


Before he can stick the knife into big pharma he's got to create economic muscle that can hold it all together when they collapse. That's a real biggy, because they are what finances a lot of the MSM fake news chanels.

He has to be strategic and clever. If he upsets the economy by attacking crooked industries, he'll be out of there in a flash.

Like I've said before...
There's a good reason why he has the portrait of Andrew Jackson on the wall behind his desk in the Oval Office.


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There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

Now, this is attempting to make Trump guilty by association. This has been tried over & over & over again, ad nauseam.

For example, Trump has been in the business of constructing buildings in New York City. The mafia largely controls the construction materials business in New York. You can't be in the business of constructing buildings without dealing in some way, or other, with the mafia that controls that sector of business.

Does that make Trump a part of the mafia???
I don't think so.

The same with going into debt - big debt - the Rothschild banking system is what you go through when it comes to borrowing money, or defaulting on existing loans. The Rothschild banking system doesn't want to lose anymore than they have to, they will work it out where they don't lose, especially when it comes to large amounts of debt.

Wilbur Ross knows the 'ins & outs' of the credit & banking system.
What???? You think Trump should have somebody in the Department of Commerce that has zero, nada, no experience??? Oh, please wake up!

The man [Trump] simply uses those resources / people that are available.

Dave Janda has rebutted this in the following video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu5E8zi-R5s

[onawah]

Let's be realistic; anyone who thinks that Trump's business dealings have been squeaky clean also needs a big wake up call.
Opportunists and humanitarians are two different things though he may very well be "the man for the moment".
But he is no Abraham Lincoln or JFK, though they of course, were only human too.

[East Sun]

From a psychological point of reason if Trump wears a wig might it not mean that he is hiding 'something' or a lot.

Like most Presidents he's here for a short while and will greed-orient his way through his terms, hopefully he will do some good.

Just like the Clintons, not giving a crap about anything except themselves, greed-oriented to the core, no addition to the nation in any way.

Time will certainly tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zak247]

I’m really disappointed in this video.
It might as well been done by Dave Wilcock
I think this thing about Trump being at war with the deep state is farcical—almost laughable.
IMO, If anything Trumps job for the deep state is to make neocons look good again, start a war with Iran, and worst make legitimate issues so bad, like trade he’s messing up, that the people will never confront those issues again.
Trump is a black psychological operation on the psyche of the American. He’s is no savior! He is a dark force.

This video, with all due, respect, IMO, is a fantasy.

Occums razor comes to mind.

[Noelle]

I’m really disappointed in this video.
It might as well been done by Dave Wilcock
I think this thing about Trump being at war with the deep state is farcical—almost laughable.
IMO, If anything Trumps job for the deep state is to make neocons look good again, start a war with Iran, and worst make legitimate issues so bad, like trade he’s messing up, that the people will never confront those issues again.
Trump is a black psychological operation on the psyche of the American. He’s is no savior! He is a dark force.

This video, with all due, respect, IMO, is a fantasy.

Occums razor comes to mind.

I don't know anything about the person who made the video, but I am just about 100% sure it was not QAnon. It's the anons on the Chan boards and others involved in the Q research who create and share videos, memes, etc. And as the video in the OP highlights, it's not just Trump taking on the Deep State. I'm thinking there are quite a few in the upper echelons of the military and other agencies who may have a far more important role in this than Trump.

As for QAnon being a psyop, we have addressed that many times in the QAnon thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a---Very-Bad-Day---Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters--Nov-2017-and-beyond-). I invite you to have a read. :)

[KiwiElf]

From a psychological point of reason if Trump wears a wig might it not mean that he is hiding 'something' or a lot.

Like most Presidents he's here for a short while and will greed-orient his way through his terms, hopefully he will do some good.

Just like the Clintons, not giving a crap about anything except themselves, greed-oriented to the core, no addition to the nation in any way.

Time will certainly tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ummmm yeah,... "time will certainly tell".

"If Trump wears a wig"??? Why wait? Let's find out right now! (see video below - Trump is quite funny!). :ROFL:

kIGcosb22_Y

Ahhhh, never mind... another Fake "Trump Myth" bites the dust! :boom:

But wait... there's more!

Maybe... he's Illuminati because of the way he holds his hands, too? :sherlock: (Maybe... it's just a comfortable way to hold his hands...)? :facepalm:

You might want to choose a different "psychological point of reason", East Sun. That is, one based on facts? :)

[Mike Gorman]

There is some things to remember when watching this video:

a) donald trump was bailed out of bankruptcy @1990 by rothschild inc. The director of bankruptcies at rothschild inc. at that time is trump's current secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. This can all be easily confirmed by a quick internet search. Does trump look like a guy who's gonna help take down the cabal he's part of?

b) what would Edward Snowden say about this video's claim that the nsa are the good guys?

The NSA is an information gathering network, I think the video says this has now changed hands in terms of the authority managing it-when Snowden was part of it there was a different administration pulling the levers.
In terms of Trump the video says he was chosen as a figurehead, he is no 'Saint' but he is independent, business wise, he is not part of the Washington political club. I'm not sure, just as none of are sure about this, we will have to see how it all plays out.

[mojo]

The DEEP STATE is not an unknown subject to our forum and we don't need to hear Trumps messaging about it. Many feel JFK died as result and as the video points out Reagan also tried to work around the rouge CIA etc.... It's never been about one party, Bush was just as guilty of crimes against humanity and 911 is still an important psy op to those that follow the research of Dr Judy Woods. Many here agree there was a continuity of DEEP STATE players from Bush senior, Clinton, Bush, & Obama... And the secret societies and groups like Bildebergs promote that connection to the ptb. The simple thing is that people can do bad things and we need to shine a light on the dark and bring transparency so that it doesn't happen under a different administration.

[turiya]

The DEEP STATE is not an unknown subject to our forum and we don't need to hear Trumps messaging about it. Many feel JFK died as result and as the video points out Reagan also tried to work around the rouge CIA etc.... It's never been about one party, Bush was just as guilty of crimes against humanity and 911 is still an important psy op to those that follow the research of Dr Judy Woods. Many here agree there was a continuity of DEEP STATE players from Bush senior, Clinton, Bush, & Obama... And the secret societies and groups like Bildebergs promote that connection to the ptb. The simple thing is that people can do bad things and we need to shine a light on the dark and bring transparency so that it doesn't happen under a different administration.


We are in the midst of a paradigm shift - a time when many changes will be occurring.

The one basic Q premise to keep in mind is:



These people are sick!https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IK6eNnkAusU/mqdefault.jpg (https://www.clipzui.com/video/s2f3x494x2q4q4g474z5k4.html)

It simply means that a therapeutic therapy is most probably the best remedy for the illness, instead of locking these sickos up with a prison sentence. The present criminal justice system has proven not to have much success in converting criminals to become 'normal' members of society.

Society needs to change.
And that change comes from the individuals within that society.
It depends on each & every one of us.

[crosby]

The DEEP STATE is not an unknown subject to our forum and we don't need to hear Trumps messaging about it. Many feel JFK died as result and as the video points out Reagan also tried to work around the rouge CIA etc.... It's never been about one party, Bush was just as guilty of crimes against humanity and 911 is still an important psy op to those that follow the research of Dr Judy Woods. Many here agree there was a continuity of DEEP STATE players from Bush senior, Clinton, Bush, & Obama... And the secret societies and groups like Bildebergs promote that connection to the ptb. The simple thing is that people can do bad things and we need to shine a light on the dark and bring transparency so that it doesn't happen under a different administration.


We are in the midst of a paradigm shift - a time when many changes will be occurring.

The one basic Q premise to keep in mind is:



These people are sick!https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IK6eNnkAusU/mqdefault.jpg (https://www.clipzui.com/video/s2f3x494x2q4q4g474z5k4.html)

It simply means that a therapeutic therapy is most probably the best remedy for the illness, instead of locking these sickos up with a prison sentence. The present criminal justice system has proven not to have much success in converting criminals to become 'normal' members of society.

Society needs to change.
And that change comes from the individuals within that society.
It depends on each & every one of us.



I agree turiya. What I see happening is that the very top of the food chain in the swamp has decided that the bottom feeders (who are supposed to keep the waters clear for them) are not doing their jobs effectively and have made a complete mess - - endangering their way of life. A new regime will be put into place and new social engineering patterns will begin. The paradigm is shifting, but it will shift with guidance, and not necessarily all positive. If individuals stay strong and continue to stay awake and follow a positive path, there may be a great outcome - - however, the possibility of the same strategies being played out again are quite high. History has a way of repeating itself.
warmest,
crosby

[NeedleThreader]

In my opinion, this video was pretty trashy and fear based. Stunned that it turned pro trump halfway through. Stunned that people are eating this up with a spoon.

Thinking that Trump is out to expose the deep state is laughable. Name one thing he has done to bring this about please. Do not confuse his chaos theory with, disrupting many people and usual way of doing things, as 'changing' anything. His style is to just piss people off. Does it work to some extent to get his way? Sure.

[mojo]

let's remember the theme divide and conquer, it's not one Party... Trump haters should listen to a real Democrat...

y8HTr-F-FVM

[Valerie Villars]

let's remember the theme divide and conquer, it's not one Party... Trump haters should listen to a real Democrat...

y8HTr-F-FVM

Amen to that message. The murder of that man was a turning point in our collective history.

[mojo]

We must call out those driving race hatred...

MO9BjIIOqrY

[Helene West]

Earlier I intended to write a positive thought i had about the vid.
However, I now have a negative as well to write.

I just read one of the President's tweets complaining about the NSA's deletion of emails. He's not seeing the NSA in any positive light and actually calling them part of the witch hunt. When I was watching the vid I kinda glossed over the affirmative nod the author gave to the NSA although I thought to myself 'this is strange trying to get us to like the NSA' but attributed it to his own zeal. Now that the Pres is highlighting this questionable move of the deletion of emails my suspicion of the vid just got bumped.

I'll mention the positive point I had though the shine on it isn't quite as much as before I read the Pres's tweet.
And that is - when I watched the young kids a few days ago protesting in Occupy Ice I had some identification from when i was that age and doing similar things (though not laying around on the ground like they were!).
I can attest that many of these young people:
--don't even know what they want to major in, they're confused and political activity is an escape from concentrating on themselves
--Some of these young people are getting an adrenaline high from a feeling of belonging that they may not have experienced before.

In both instances above there will be in their group more strict idealogues who will try to prompt them to do things or believe things that are not going to sit well with those who have a conscience and some inner wisdom. They will be the ones the video can be a good thing for. Many of these young folks are not ready to just drop political activity yet but need to transfer this idealism. If the Q vid helps them transfer their need to belong to something greater then the Q group I'll venture is better than the Antifa group.

So I have one positive and one negative which equals zero - Whaddya know - left holding the empty bag again!

[onawah]

I don't think there is any cure for those who have become that sick. The best we can do is divest them from their power and ill-gotten gains.
We have to learn how to identify narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths in their early stages, before they are able to do damage, and to divert their energies into agendas other than control, manipulate and conquer.
They are becoming easier to recognize, but how to arrest and divert them is yet another matter.
Perhaps Gaia will take care of that for us via higher frequencies of energy and light, IF we start taking better care of Gaia.
And of the coming generations, which are currently being crippled from vaccines, toxins of all kinds, EMFs, microwaves, etc. etc. etc.

[norman]

I think the guy who made this video has less dots to join than we here are used to working with.

I'm not completely sure there isn't a "Q" hype being run on us, but I'm pretty sure Trump is a good guy trying his level best to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, for humanity.

Although Americans tend to look at the patriotic flavor of Trumpism, Trump himself has repeatedly stated that his goal is victory for the world. From thousands of miles away in Britain, as I am, I hang on to those words the most. If I thought he just wanted to put America back on top of a steaming pile of global unfairness, I'd not be as enthusiastic about him as I am.

[turiya]

Thinking that Trump is out to expose the deep state is laughable.
Name one thing he has done to bring this about please.


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The Swamp is Being Drained
Q

FBI
Andrew McCabe - FBI ==> FIRED
Bill Priestap - FBI ==> COOPERATING WITNESS - POWER REMOVED
Jim Rybick - FBI ==> FIRED
James Baker - FBI ==> FIRED
Peter Strzok - FBI ==> COOPERATING WITNESS - POWER REMOVED
Lisa Page - FBI ==> FIRED
Mike Kortan - FBI ==> FIRED
Josh Campbell - FBI ==> FIRED

DOJ
David Laufman - DOJ ==> FIRED
John Carlin - DOJ ==> FIRED
Sally Yates - DOJ ==> FIRED
Mary McCord - DOJ ==> FIRED
Bruce Ohr - DOJ ==> COOPERATING WITNESS - DEMOTED / POWER REMOVED
Rachel Brand - DOJ ==> FIRED
Scott Schools - DOJ ==> See Q Post #1669 below - Supposedly stepped down - need confirmation


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And, mojo had already posted this on another thread...
What about those indictments???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9cK7r5Rws

[Justplain]

I am awefully sorry to rain on anyone's parade, or sense of security, but the video in the OP is well made propaganda. Much like ben fulford claiming that the cabal is being taken down, the points of this vid are to pacify the audience, to make us feel sorry for and good about ourselves at the same time, and that the 'good guys in the military, the nsa and the white house' are coming to the rescue!

Please spare me of this gobbledy-goop!

The NSA are an immoral organization that violates constitutional privacy law millions of times every hour. Edward Snowden blew the whistle on them. Neither Obama, or Trump, have done anything to reign them in. They are extremely dangerous and not ever to be trusted.

Trump himself has no track record of true leadership. His 'apprentice' shows were a joke, where the climax was 'you're fired!' Here's a guy who gets elected to a bankrupt government, appoints goldman sachs' alumni, trilateral commissioners and council of foreign relations guys to his cabinet. His big legislative claim in the first two years was to cut taxes for his rich buddies. Give it up if you think he's draining the swamp!

I am truly sorry folks, but at best, Trump is part of the controlled opposition. There are no white knights coming to the rescue in this sorry state of affairs. Our best chance is to use the freedom we have to choose the path of dignity, and independence, wherever and whenever we can. Dont give your power over to these conjurers who would have you believe that they are the answer. They are part of the problem.

[turiya]

I am awefully sorry to rain on anyone's parade, or sense of security, but the video in the OP is well made propaganda. Much like ben fulford claiming that the cabal is being taken down, the points of this vid are to pacify the audience, to make us feel sorry for and good about ourselves at the same time, and that the 'good guys in the military, the nsa and the white house' are coming to the rescue!

Please spare me of this gobbledy-goop!

The NSA are an immoral organization that violates constitutional privacy law millions of times every hour. Edward Snowden blew the whistle on them. Neither Obama, or Trump, have done anything to reign them in. They are extremely dangerous and not ever to be trusted.

Trump himself has no track record of true leadership. His 'apprentice' shows were a joke, where the climax was 'you're fired!' Here's a guy who gets elected to a bankrupt government, appoints goldman sachs' alumni, trilateral commissioners and council of foreign relations guys to his cabinet. His big legislative claim in the first two years was to cut taxes for his rich buddies. Give it up if you think he's draining the swamp!

I am truly sorry folks, but at best, Trump is part of the controlled opposition. There are no white knights coming to the rescue in this sorry state of affairs. Our best chance is to use the freedom we have to choose the path of dignity, and independence, wherever and whenever we can. Dont give your power over to these conjurers who would have you believe that they are the answer. They are part of the problem.
You may need to tend to your own garden...

Trust in Justin Trudeau?
Good luck w/ that one... :)


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[onawah]

Am I missing something--as to how Trudea got into the conversation?



Trust in Justin Trudeau?
Good luck w/ that one... :)



Ah, I see--never mind. The context was too obscure for me to see at first.

[mojo]

Hi Justplain,
... value your opinion and important that all voices & concerns are heard no matter what side and even try to find the positive from opposing views and here's the take away for me. Although could counter the other points it only sets up division which I think was big theme in the video. But buried in your opposing views was common ground...


Our best chance is to use the freedom we have to choose the path of dignity, and independence, wherever and whenever we can. Dont give your power over to these conjurers who would have you believe that they are the answer. They are part of the problem.

The new Admin has opposition from all fronts I wonder why? For Trump to be guilty of all the things he's been accused of is illogical. Yet Trump is just a person but his efforts have brought so many positive results. Statistics don't lie...

[onawah]

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[Helene West]

For more than 7.5 years of Obama's 8 years I barely read any politics. I didn't want to know. I felt it was over for America with elitists hiding behind a black guy to give them extra cover (with the PC Shield) for their evil. Now I read the political stuff too much! Now we never know what will happen next.

Under obama half the country went emotionally dead before the second term. Now it's like we're Hyper-Aware in a Shark Tank!

To me it's besides the point to enumerate all of trump's flaws. It doesn't change the fact that there was no choice, him or Clinton. What were folks supposed to do?? Mystery Door #2 or Clinton, that was it!

For most Avalonians this vid will not pass muster no matter what side of the fence you're on but I don't think it was made for us. There are people who need the vid like the young girl in Post #7. The vid was made for people who need it. But was it innocently made in response to a need expressed by this girl and those similar to her or is someone coolly assessing a need and taking advantage to manufacture a phony solution? - as usual I won't pretend to know.

[KiwiElf]

Q Anon for Beginners - Praying Medic
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prayingmedic
Published on May 9, 2018
"In this video, I review the history of Qanon, explain the basic terms he* uses and lay out some of Q's posts. My goal is to help you decide for yourself whether Q is worth your time."

This has been posted before on the "Q" thread back in May, but due to the recently increasing number of members and anonymous guests discovering "Q", :happythumbsup: it's a complementary video to the OP; a "non-glossy" summary for both new & seasoned "Q" followers, curious onlookers, the sceptical, or just to hear what "Q" is all about.

(Crossposted)

*NOTE: The term "he" to describe "Q" is a convenient misnomer; it's been long established that "Q" is not a single person but a group (more than five, less than 10, military/civilian individuals, assisted by an AI) & located in different parts of the world.