Is Mars still red ?

[uzn]

The newest Picture by NASA / JPL-Caltech / MSSS looks quite different than red.

https://heise.cloudimg.io/bound/1920x1920/q90.png-lossy-90.webp-lossy-90.foil1/_www-heise-de_/imgs/18/2/4/5/6/9/6/5/20180704_2-Dual-PEDE-before-after-0528-07012-018-revised-6568c913cc558713.jpeg

The images above, taken by MARCI – the Mars Color Imager camera onboard MRO and processed by Cantor and his team at Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) show how completely a planet-encircling dust event, or PEDE as it’s known by NASA acronym.

That´s a long way from pictures like this that I have been shown in school way back ;)

https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/1998/01/mars_express_target_the_red_planet/9112191-5-eng-GB/Mars_Express_target_the_Red_Planet.jpg

[Rawhide68]

Red or not, why is it so important for NASA to use the red filter.
I don't get it?


And why are there Canadian lemmings on mars as well as bones from dead walrusses?
mIXthbfSJcQ Devon island photo's I believe.

[Cidersomerset]

There were articles about this years ago back in the 1990's for some reason I
cannot remember why NASA used red filters . Richard Hoagland or someone similar
exposed this in their presentation if I remember correctly.....

This vid is not what I remember but gives you an idea....


NASA, The BBC and the Colour of the Sky on Mars

zg1NUs5TxsI

Published on 27 Aug 2012
In view of the recent arrival of the Curiosity Rover on Mars, I made this video to
show how the BBC repeatedly broadcasts, false Information relating to the Colour
of the Sky on Mars, In 1977, 2009 and 2012 - and of course, at other times too.


===================================================


The second blue planet (Mars) ....Another short vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0AzRw-iIQ
Published on 29 May 2015...( 2 mins )...
Is Mars really red as Nasa claim it is.Check out the video and judge for your self.
I believe Andrew D. Basiago when he says we can breathe on Mars.

===================================================

Mike Bara who co wrote Dark Mission with Richard Hoagland is one I was thinking
of


Back in October 2007 we posted a blog entry on the color correction problem NASA
has historically had with images taken from the Martian surface. We deal with this
specifically in chapter 11 of Dark Mission, and also posted articles on it on the
Enterprise Mission web site several years ago.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qClM5UcqiU0/U9WVCMMS0hI/AAAAAAAAFGM/_YepHU-eCis/s1600/Slide83.JPG

As we showed in those articles, NASA has deliberately altered the colors of the
images to make the Martian sky appear an absurd “Technicolor red,” when in fact
all the evidence clearly shows that the true color of the Martian sky is (and must
be) blue – just as it is here on Earth. In fact, when we used a simple color
correction tool in PhotoShop called the Auto Levels tool, Mars came out looking as
Carl Sagan described it after the first Viking images in 1976 – it looked like Arizona.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YXyFj3wFBTY/U9WVMrJT9sI/AAAAAAAAFGU/TIIXmyIQHno/s1600/Slide84.JPG

http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2008/01/revisting-true-colors-of-mars.html

[norman]

They are gradually reducing the red filtering because they have to get in line with the reality that will be revealed when a private mission to Mars shows it like it is.

Well, that's what I think.

Here's a question, are they going to collect up all the old pictures and vanish them or are they going to blag it out assuming we are either stupid or don't care ?

[Sunny-side-up]

There were articles about this years ago back in the 1990's for some reason I
cannot remember why NASA used red filters . Richard Hoagland or someone similar
exposed this in their presentation if I remember correctly.....

This vid is not what I remember but gives you an idea....


NASA, The BBC and the Colour of the Sky on Mars

zg1NUs5TxsI

Published on 27 Aug 2012
In view of the recent arrival of the Curiosity Rover on Mars, I made this video to
show how the BBC repeatedly broadcasts, false Information relating to the Colour
of the Sky on Mars, In 1977, 2009 and 2012 - and of course, at other times too.


===================================================


The second blue planet (Mars) ....Another short vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0AzRw-iIQ
Published on 29 May 2015...( 2 mins )...
Is Mars really red as Nasa claim it is.Check out the video and judge for your self.
I believe Andrew D. Basiago when he says we can breathe on Mars.

===================================================

Mike Bara who co wrote Dark Mission with Richard Hoagland is one I was thinking
of


Back in October 2007 we posted a blog entry on the color correction problem NASA
has historically had with images taken from the Martian surface. We deal with this
specifically in chapter 11 of Dark Mission, and also posted articles on it on the
Enterprise Mission web site several years ago.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qClM5UcqiU0/U9WVCMMS0hI/AAAAAAAAFGM/_YepHU-eCis/s1600/Slide83.JPG

As we showed in those articles, NASA has deliberately altered the colors of the
images to make the Martian sky appear an absurd “Technicolor red,” when in fact
all the evidence clearly shows that the true color of the Martian sky is (and must
be) blue – just as it is here on Earth. In fact, when we used a simple color
correction tool in PhotoShop called the Auto Levels tool, Mars came out looking as
Carl Sagan described it after the first Viking images in 1976 – it looked like Arizona.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YXyFj3wFBTY/U9WVMrJT9sI/AAAAAAAAFGU/TIIXmyIQHno/s1600/Slide84.JPG

http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2008/01/revisting-true-colors-of-mars.html

Yes Cider I remember doing a colour test with the rover picture in Avalon a year or so ago.
You adjust your image in your computer paint programme so that the rovers colour chart looks true colour and watch the sky and ground change, change into a much subtler and healthy looking planet.

You can do the test with the above image which shows the chart :)


A question should be:
Was the rovers colour swatch left in an image for us to see and not an oversight by NASA?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze

[TargeT]

Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze

Yup, saw it a few months back IIRC.. still red.

[uzn]

Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze

I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
Adios and Njoy

If anybody is interested here is a closeup of the white spots on Ceres:
https://newsini.com/upload/news/image_1530626509_24654980.jpg

[dynamo]

Still as red today through my telescope as it was 50 years ago through my telescope.
Just sayin'...

[Foxie Loxie]

Is anyone, besides me, "seeing Red"?!! :ROFL:

[TargeT]

Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.


I hope you take the wording of that comment (which, as the OP I can see as triggering) in stride and do not let it effect your future self....


Question everything always, but be sure that unconventional questions will receive push back, deserved or not; I would not internalize that comment. ;)

[Ernie Nemeth]

I regret the jeeze part. Sorry. I know they mess with the color filters. And that is frustrating too...

[DeDukshyn]

I regret the jeeze part. Sorry. I know they mess with the color filters. And that is frustrating too...

Yes two separate things, and also things appear different at different scales. From Earth, Mars is still red, and it does strongly appear that NASA doesn't want us to know the colour of things - also supported by all the original moon photos being, or converted to B&W. To me it would seem that NASA doesn't want us to consider that Mars sky is often blue, or that it is a lot more like Earth than we are told.

[Cardillac]

am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

Larry

[DeDukshyn]

am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

Larry


Still as red today through my telescope as it was 50 years ago through my telescope.
Just sayin'...

I'm pretty sure NASA can't manipulate peoples eyes or telescopes ... But if you are talking about the surface images - yes, I think that is "out for debate" still ...

[TargeT]

am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

Larry

It looks just like this with the naked eye... google your region and when it will be visible.. a common sight.
http://en.es-static.us/upl/2017/10/venus-mars-10-1-2017-Posne-NightSky-Astrophotography-Dennis-Chabot-e1506941753405.jpg

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Checked the telescope, still red from the Carolinas. NASA? Still NASA.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze

I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
Adios and Njoy

If anybody is interested here is a closeup of the white spots on Ceres:
https://newsini.com/upload/news/image_1530626509_24654980.jpg

Hey, don't worry about the title at all-- I think the title is very clickable, nice job! Discussion worthy topic too.

Thanks so much for the ceres picture, been looking ALL OVER for this thing- do you remember which spacecraft shot it?

[uzn]

Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze

I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
Adios and Njoy

If anybody is interested here is a closeup of the white spots on Ceres:
https://newsini.com/upload/news/image_1530626509_24654980.jpg

Hey, don't worry about the title at all-- I think the title is very clickable, nice job! Discussion worthy topic too.

Thanks so much for the ceres picture, been looking ALL OVER for this thing- do you remember which spacecraft shot it?

Yup, it´s been shot by NASA´s DAWN Spacecraft.
And they say it´s basically salt (natriumcarbonat).

https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/img/ETz4WPGGJYohQixXjGztNU5gr4w=/970x0/2018/07/02/99e2b1b7-e0ee-4875-a992-24a259055e69/ceresbright.jpg

DAWN´s Webpage:
https://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/

[uzn]

Here some prestine Images by the german Spaceagency DLR (ESA/DLR/FU Berlin).

https://www.adlershof.de/fileadmin/user_upload/15-years-MEx_co.jpg

https://www.adlershof.de/fileadmin/user_upload/15-years-MEx_co_labeled.jpg

and a colorcoded Hightmap:
https://www.adlershof.de/fileadmin/user_upload/15-years-MEx_ctxt_mola.jpg

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Spectacular, thanks. Quite a lot of blue in those images,

[uzn]

Hellas Basin from Mars Express

http://wanderingspace.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/27554162402_2ce05eec0a_o.png

ESA / DLR / FU Berlin

[Sunny-side-up]

I wonder how many travellers come here expecting to walk on Blue soils :)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Just went out last nite to confirm yes - Mars is still red. Actually more red than usual. Is there a dust storm on the surface? Usually Mars has more of an orange color - like orange-redish