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Skywizard
16th July 2018, 15:09
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The scene's stunning detail is etched with intricate precision and depicts a
victorious warrior in combat.


A STUNNING WORK of art etched on a gemstone no larger than an inch and a half was revealed after researchers washed away thousands of years of limestone and grime.

The team of researchers first found the masterpiece two years ago, but they had regarded it as little more than a small bead. It was in a collection of 1,400 artifacts unearthed in the 3,500-year-old tomb of a Bronze Age warrior buried in southwest Greece. The stone, which the researchers have now dubbed the "Pylos Combat Agate," would have likely been used as a small piece of jewelry said Shari Stocker, one of the dig leaders.

The tomb itself was a remarkable find when researchers discovered it in 2015. It housed the well-preserved skeleton of the "Griffin Warrior." He was buried with a plaque depicting a creature called a griffin, with the head and wings of an eagle and the body of a lion. Among the burial riches found with the Griffin Warrior were a collection of gold signet rings and a bronze sword. The gemstone was collected but put aside and its artistry was only revealed after a routine artifact cleaning.

It took researchers from the University of Cincinnati nearly a year to clean the artifact before they could see the intricate details carved into its surface. Details about the gemstone and the artifacts found in the tomb were published in the journal Hesperia.

"It's so moving to actually look at. Almost always the reaction is to cry," said Stocker.


Violent Scene
The carving in full detail can only be easily seen with a photomicroscopy camera lens. Some of the details carved onto the stone are only half a millimeter big. A magnifying glass may have been used to create the details on the stone, but according to Stocker, no type of magnifying tool from this time period has ever been found.

"They're incomprehensibly small," said University of Cincinnati professor Jack Davis.

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A sketch of the Pylos Combat Agate shows the carving's incredible detail.


The scene depicts a victorious warrior who, after conquering his first opponent, lifts his sword to plunge it into the neck of another enemy. Individual muscles can be seen on the human bodies carved onto the stone.

It has all the grandiosity of scenes like the Greek epics The Iliad and The Odyssey.

The tomb in which the stone was found is located on the Peloponnese peninsula at Pylos, at the site of King Nestor's palace, as written in Homer's epic poem The Odyssey, Andrew Lawler reported for National Geographic. Exactly what the stone's delicate carving depicts is a mystery. Researchers don't have enough clues to link the depiction to the oral traditions that would later inspire Homer in 700 B.C. But Stocker and the researchers believe it probably depicts a legend that would have been well known at the time.


Tomb of Surprises
According to the researchers, the complexity of the carving forces historians to rethink the caliber of art being made during this time period. No comparably detailed carvings have been found from the Aegean bronze age.

The Griffin Warrior was buried around 1450 B.C., during what was a politically tumultuous time in ancient Greece. It's widely thought that Greek mainlanders, the Myceneans, conquered people on the island of Crete, the Minoans. Minoan art greatly influenced that on the Greek mainland and many of the Minoan artifacts found during this time period may have been imported or robbed.

How much influence the Minoans exerted on mainland Greece has been the subject of debate. The Griffin Warrior's tomb, the researchers suggest, indicates a high level of cultural exchange. Exactly who the warrior was isn't yet known. The number of Minoan artifacts in his tomb indicate he could have been a member of the Minoan elite or a Mycenaean who was captivated by the Minoan culture.





Source: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/11/greek-sealstone-gemstone-combat-griffin-warrior-tomb-spd/



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Valerie Villars
16th July 2018, 15:19
That agate is almost miraculous. It speaks to incomprehensible magic in an age long past. I love agates and can't imagine with what they carved the image. Thanks Skywizard.

I swear sometimes I think stones like that were "given" to mankind by some inexplicable force.

DeDukshyn
16th July 2018, 15:20
Amazing find.

I wonder at what point our mainstream science will abandon their timelines based around "stone age" and "bronze age" ... to anyone who does a little research these days, the "experts" and "authorities" and "egyptologists" are starting to look like complete idiots (or shills) - not "experts".

Mark (Star Mariner)
16th July 2018, 15:50
That's a stunning artefact. An OOPart really. Not just a magnifying glass would be required to carve those tiny details, more like a microscope. And what about the tools? How small would they have to be? It would be interesting to know where the agate was sourced in the world, as there are various types.

But I can imagine historians' heads exploding trying to explain this.

3,500 years ago places it right in the Trojan war period. But...it doesn't necessarily have to that precise age, does it? The iconography does appear to be Greek, but it's kind of hard to believe that a bronze-age people could produce such small, intricate works. You never know, it could be older. We talk about anti-antediluvian civilizations a lot, and knowledge that has been lost. If this dates to a more ancient time, I wouldn't be surprised.

Skywizard
16th July 2018, 17:14
But I can imagine historians' heads exploding trying to explain this.



A detail of the jewel, which cannot be seen with the naked eye.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/science/2017/11/08/1509716540682_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqzHDhaW2A9CiilXP0xXZ5zmreqapuikfNyCYuptSHoIo.jpg?imwidth=1240

Sunny-side-up
16th July 2018, 20:19
Just as a drawn image it would be of great skill and style, as an engraved small stone, well it's mind blowing.
Love it

Matt P
17th July 2018, 02:20
I’m sorry but I don’t believe it was carved by hand. It would be darn near impossible for this to be drawn by hand on paper today, much less during this time period, onto such a small gem so perfectly. This has to be some technology or machinery.

Matt

Laurel
17th July 2018, 03:50
I’m sorry but I don’t believe it was carved by hand. It would be darn near impossible for this to be drawn by hand on paper today, much less during this time period, onto such a small gem so perfectly. This has to be some technology or machinery.

Matt

This gem is absolutely amazing and intricate, but not impossible to carve by hand. Salavat Fidai carves intricate lead pencil sculptures by hand with a X-acto knife and magnifying glass.

http://www.salavatfidai.com/

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Agate has a Mohs hardness of 7 and can be scratched or carved using a stone-tipped tool with a hardness of 9 (ruby or sapphire) or 10 (diamond).

One thing that bothers me about the "experts" is that they are dating the stone based on the findings in the same area. A couple thousand years from now, someone could possibly dig up the same stone from a 2018 era ruin and date it at 2000 years old instead of 3500+ years old (or much older).

Skywizard, thank you for your fantastic posts. I look forward to them everyday.

what is a name?
17th July 2018, 10:17
On the close up pic it shows what can only be described as a halo round the warriors head - stunning!

Skywizard
17th July 2018, 21:04
Skywizard, thank you for your fantastic posts. I look forward to them everyday.

Thanks Laurel, I try to share some of the amazing articles I find on the web and hope our members (and guests) enjoy them.

uzn
18th July 2018, 16:35
Impossible Carving, check out the Portland Vase:
The Portland Vase is a Roman cameo glass vase, which is dated to between AD 1 and AD 25, though low BC dates have some scholarly support. It is the best known piece of Roman cameo glass and has served as an inspiration to many glass and porcelain makers from about the beginning of the 18th century onwards. It is first recorded in Rome in 1600–1601, and since 1810 has been in the British Museum in London.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Portland_Vase_BM_Gem4036_n5.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Portland_Vase_BM_Gem4036_n4.jpg

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