Steven Greer (2019) on an imminent catastrophic false flag event

[Bill Ryan]

Hello, Everyone: do please critique this carefully, and comment intelligently. I welcome all views.

It may be nothing, or it may be something. The presentation (on 12 May, 2018, over 11 weeks ago) was only published yesterday. The promised Part 2, a continuation of the same presentation after a 15 minute break, doesn't seem to be on the net.

It's about far more than his claimed (and admittedly very well-argued) case for a cover-up of the well-known little Atacama being that featured in the documentary Sirius.

Greer goes on to dismantle Tom Delonge's To The Stars Academy (TTSA). Everything he states about them is very credible, in my opinion, and is very well worth listening to.

Then, just after the hour mark, Greer suddenly starts presenting new information about a major planned false flag event. This is what I've started this thread to discuss. I've made some timestamp notes, which I'll post below the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEht3iVnf2Q

1:00:45: He refers to an 'extinction level event' that he says he's been briefed on in the last month (i.e. April 2018), that we've not got much time, that’s it’s “been approved”, and then he comes to a full halt and appears to change the subject. It seemed likely to be real. I don't think he's that good an actor.

1:01:06: He says: "We have little time."

1:08:30: He refers to an "apocalyptic event" that's been "greenlighted and approved". Then he comes to a halt again.

1:13:30: He refers to his concern that the group (meaning TTSA and those behind them, strongly selling the idea of an alien 'threat') will try to "accelerate the false flag".

1:16:35: He mentions "the weaponization of interdimensional portals".

1:24:20: He implies he's provided an extensive brief for Trump on UFOs, when he was nominated. And he suggests he's indirectly provided information for Putin.

1:32:04: He says he's been asked by someone with close ties to the Kremlin AND someone with close ties to the US National Security State and the President — two people who don’t even know each other — to write "an announcement speech" for them. (He says he'll read his draft to the audience later that evening.) He asked them why, and they each said because “it’s been authorized”.

1:34:30: He says the plan is for us to "sink into the worst catastrophe in recorded human history."

1:35:24: He says: "There's about 5 billion of the 7.5 billion lives hanging in the balance." Then he says: “That’s an accurate number.”

Then there's a 15 minute break, followed by two more hours. But as best I know, that's not been published.

***

Again, the above just came out yesterday, on his Sirius Disclosure (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC6B4Y0oFACv9QBlf0ebBcg) channel. I only realized this half way through, when I was wondering how the h*** I'd never heard about any of this at all. :)

As many reading this will know, I'm no fan of Steven Greer, and have been a very strident critic of his for several years. There are other threads about this. But here, there's not a single thing he says that I know about, or can check, that I'd disagree with. It's actually understated, measured, calm, undramatic and precise.

His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!), and all I can say is that this got my strong attention.

I do NOT know why this was only published 11 weeks later, or why there's no sign yet of the potentially very important promised Part 2.

[Jayke]

Well, I started watching at 59:00, and he’s talking about getting the truth out to just 1% of the population of the planet. “1% could create a paradigm shift into a new civilisation”, he says, and then comes the caveat, “Otherwise, we’re slated for an extinction level event”.

So, when nothing happens, and the world keeps turning as normal, he can turn around and say “we did it! We changed the paradigm. Your meditations paid off”.

Everything that comes after his “otherwise” statement would be hypothetical and preconditioned on society NOT making a leap to a new civilisation. Yet, anyone who studies geopolitics to a reasonable degree, would realise a new civilisational paradigm is right on the horizon anyway, so, it’s unlikely any of it will come to pass imo.

[Valerie Villars]

From the other video, "Sirius" he seems to building us up to accepting a false flag involving aliens, on a number of levels. So, he seems to be warning us this will be the next step taken by whoever or whatever is really running this world.

That coupled with Trump saying we need a Space Force and the ptb upping the anty to get more money and control, it seems they have nowhere to go but "up" so to speak in the whole false flag maneuver.

[ichingcarpenter]

Well, I started watching at 59:00, and he’s talking about getting the truth out to just 1% of the population of the planet. “1% could create a paradigm shift into a new civilisation”, he says, and then comes the caveat, “Otherwise, we’re slated for an extinction level event”.

So, when nothing happens, and the world keeps turning as normal, he can turn around and say “we did it! We changed the paradigm. Your meditations paid off”.

Everything that comes after his “otherwise” statement would be hypothetical and preconditioned on society NOT making a leap to a new civilisation. Yet, anyone who studies geopolitics to a reasonable degree, would realise a new civilisational paradigm is right in the horizon anyway, so, it’s unlikely any of it will come to pass imo.

I actually stop the event a while back ...... I mean extension level event (yes I know it should say extinction) just like I did in the PBS scifi movie '' The Lathe of Heaven'' (BTW worth seeing and no spoilers please )



I find the different UFO camps infighting on who we should follow or believe curious.

Greer is always a famous person name dropper but Putin and Trump won't send him a memo saying thanks for briefing Steven or produce even a parking stub

Wilcock is a insider insider no names dropper who doesn't even use dead drops in parks or zoos to talk to his 35 levels above the president insiders he talks to them on his phone or Gaia.

I'll watch this but Greer hasn't said squat about his former employee Emery Smith one way or another and its not like he doesn't know what Wilcock is pushing. So Greer is in the woodshed with me for the time being............. thanks for all the fish, don't panic and we should have submitted our protest on the hyperspace bypass to the Vogons.

[Cardillac]

if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this- it's always been that way throughout history and will continue to be so in the future-

geologists don't know everything- not by a long shot-

life is nothing but surprises-

"life is what happens while one is busily making plans"- John Lennon

Larry

[turiya]

In my view, this Extinction Level Event is not going to happen. Not to the everyday people, anyways.

What we already see happening at present is the Deep State, & whatever factions, departments & compartments that it consists of - the Deep State is being threatened right now, as we speak. Its an Exitinction Level Event for the military-industrial / Deep State / bankster / cabal complex.

Having said that, yes, certainly the cabal will be pulling out all the stops in a last ditch effort to hang onto their position of control. And, the best way to is to 'create' an alien threat.

Steven Greer is trying to create a movement. But, to me, that movement has already begun, its already well on the way. Whatever event that the cabal will be throwing at the rest of the human population on this planet will blowback onto them. Its more than obvious that this is happening as we speak with Trump now. IMO, Trump is on the leading edge of what is coming to the rest of this planet. Its just the beginning.

I'm not so much into the writings in the Bible, or into religion so much, but it is written in the Bible scriptures. Whatever event the cabal will attempt to pull off, it will only cause the human population to become more awakened. Humanity will be challenged. And in being challenged, it will cause the consciousness of mankind to be piqued & rise in a crescendo.

We eventually will be challenged more than we ever have been before. We will be challenged - to the point that we will eventually do works greater that those that have become enlightened before us. If you want to talk about an event, I'm talking a mass enlightenment event taking place on this planet.

That is how I see it. So really, there's really nothing that one can do. There will be a percentage of the population that will be called forth. They will be filled with something that will spontaneously drive them to do what will be needed.

Its an exciting time to be alive.
So, in the meantime, just enjoy the show as it unfolds. :popcorn:

[muxfolder]

Say what? More fake news?

[Bill Ryan]

if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this

He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.

[Soullight]

Maybe it has something to do with Eddie Page
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9SrKrf9B6BpfD-m0db6qOg

He's claiming that he has the green light on activating the Yellow Stone caldera volcano.

Eddie is one of 33 children born in 1953 and each born about 20 minutes apart. These children were sired by an alien named Valiant Thor (who according to Gerald Clark is none other than the Annunaki heir Enlil). Thor visited earth and meant with President Eisenhower and others who refused to take Thor's advice and help. https://www.disclose.tv/valiant-thor-the-benevolent-alien-with-an-iq-of-1200-307285

NOTE: Eddie claims Thor was from Pleiades and NOT from Venus and that many other aspects of the story as spoken about by Dr. Stranges was wrong.

Eddie has a very interesting story and apparently is eclectically very bright and also worked with the CIA most of his life. He basically claims that he and these children were put here on earth as humans by Thor. Eddie was raised under surrogate earth parents, and I think one or two of the children could observe humans and determine if we are worth saving as a species (I think it was a secret exactly which one, hence the need for 33 as a sort of rouse).

If I'm not mistaken Eddie claims he is the equivalent of a Biblical type avenging-angel and is the one who determines if he should allow the so-called Dragon to be let loose and destroy the earth by Fire, as was prophesied in the Bible. And the way Eddie would destroy the earth by fire was through unleashing the huge Yellow Stone caldera volcano. He claims to have woken it up now and also knows when his father Thor will return to earth (the year 2028). Whether or not Eddie will fully unleash the volcano has yet to be determined, although he doesn’t look upon humanity as particularly a good thing.

If you look into the various translations of Sumerian tablets you find that the Annunanki seem to be behind everything on earth (aka The Illuminati). And ever since Enki saved humanity from the flood (via Noah) and convinced the council to leave us alone for a time while we are yet again observed weighed and measured, could it be that we have been found wanting and the Annunaki have finally decided to terminate the genetic experiment known as humanity?

Well, Yellowstone has been more active than usual and many people in the know are concerned.

Billions would die but not necessarily make humans extinct. This could be considered a false flag according to negative Alien standards.
:peep: :flame:



IMHO: :angel:

There is something called "The EVENT". I feel this is by Far the BEST end-time/disclosure scenario I have ever heard. Partial-disclosure won’t work because the powers-that-be would have us assimilated and totally controlled during that period of time. And the scenario where humanity is destroyed in order for us to start over or just be erased (such as what Eddie is speaking about) isn’t an answer either because it doesn’t educate us WHILE we are alive when we can consciously use our free-will since all we need is proper education and not being suppressed or manipulated by the Annunaki or ANY evil force in order to flourish.

So, full-disclosure and this EVENT type scenario where advanced beings help rid us of the negative alien threat and allow us to catch up on who we actually are and discover our full potential without repression/suppression seems the best answer.

[Flash]

if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this

He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.

yes, where 2 billion people may die - an extinction event duly prepared to be implemented 10 years earlier than planned, therefore not a natural event, although geological manipulation may be part of it.

Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?

[Soullight]

This whole thing is interesting because Greer has always been a proponent of positive aliens being in control. Not much control in Billions dying.

[MistressJan]

Greer is always interesting to listen to and whether he's completely believable or he's not, he brings an interesting perspective to the conversation.

However...

...if an extinction-level event was "greenlighted 30 days ago" then it would have been approved sometime in April so why wait to publish it now? Why not earlier? Because if something is about to be unleashed, and there's not much time left to prepare, waiting 2 1/2 months to get the word out seems counterproductive.

And then I believe I heard him ask for funding for two films which he seems to say might change the collective consciousness enough so that the extinction level event won't happen, or did I not hear him correctly? I noticed that his voice got louder as he discussed the extinction event and then would drop off into comments I couldn't hear leading me to wonder why. Is it just his speaking style or was it done for effect?

If an extinction event has been approved then why would there be any other option that didn't result in the same? It's not that I don't believe that our unified presence can't redirect this stuff into something better, because I certainly do. But it felt like he was using fear to sell something, in this case, funding for two more movies. I understand that this is how he gets these projects funded, but don't tell me that I may be about to die and then ask for money for a project that could let me survive.

It's odd. And I'm tired of odd.

It's not that I don't appreciate the commitment Greer has to the disclosure movement or the contribution he's made, but the minute someone starts asking for money, I can't help but give them the side-eye.


~Jan

[Innocent Warrior]

I’ve only just begun watching it and it was published in December 2016, but here’s Greer discussing “The Cosmic False Flag”

Duration: 3 hours, 7 minutes
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[GaelVictor]

if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this

He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.

yes, where 2 billion people may die - an extinction event duly prepared to be implemented 10 years earlier than planned, therefore not a natural event, although geological manipulation may be part of it.

Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?

A giant False Flag where an alien presence, maybe partly real and the larger part staged, will be portrayed or set-up as an evil and imminent threat to humanity. The reaction to save or defend humanity from this imminent threat,
and the resulting destruction will be the second stage of the False Flag and cause the death of five (5) billion people.

I believe Kerry Cassidy had a falling out with Greer backstage but she later mentioned that it was mostly a misunderstanding from her part, and no chance to go into it further due to time constraints at the time.


In this presentation it becomes clear that Greer's EGO was hurt, and that ego will not fit in a surgical glove size 9 any time soon. He is hurt, angry and emotional but there is more to it than that.
The information he presents and the way he presents it gives me no reason to doubt that he is;

1. Trying to convince the audience to sponsor his two new films and make them within twelve months.
2. Trying his best to achieve the 1% he thinks is needed to kickstart humanity into the new 500K year cycle in a positive way and avert disaster and the false flag.

And if you were to ask me if I think that a false flag is being prepared and has indeed recently been green-lighted, I would say; it's logical that it has.

That doesn' t mean it will happen and not this year either.

[norman]

It's very logical, Bill, I can see why it triggered your alarm sensor.

If they are on the brink of going down, from their perspective, a deliberate massive act of global self destruction puts their advantage back in place.

They have underground facilities, we don't.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

I'm not permitted to use certain words on youtube, like false flag. I already have 1 community strike for a gardening video.

Anyways, here's my current stance on the major assertion greer makes, in 7 minutes 30 seconds. Bottom line-- don't make us wait for a couple of movies to educate the 1% needed to stop this catastrophe.

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And yes, I do believe that Greer has made a shift in his presentation, which truly, honestly concerns me. We need full disclosure on this extremely serious claim.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I like your video, Joe. Very succinct, calm, and reasonable. I myself, although I respect Dr. Greer and his laudable efforts, do not feel at all compelled to start stocking up on supplies. He might have credible sources, he might not. Who knows? As far as this extinction level event is concerned, I see no other way through than by some sort of major catastrophe, manmade or otherwise. This system cannot continue. The writing's on the wall...

It doesn't take secret contacts at the pentagon to know that much.

If it is planned, then it could be survivable. If it is some sort of natural disaster or series of them, then we might be in for a rougher ride.

[GaelVictor]

Brilliant Steven Greer talking/answering questions at the premiere of the film Unacknowledged,
Unacknowledged Red Carpet Premiere;
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Dr Steven Greer 2017 - UNACKNOWLEDGED AN EXPOSE OF THE GREATEST SECRET IN HUMAN HISTORY;
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[Craig]

I appear to be stuck at the billions of dead scenario? How is such a calamity cleaned up? I would guess that all power is gone and we are back to candle light or worse.

If we are to rebuild what is the likely hood that down the track this doesn't happen again? I am thinking fairly low.

I just don't want to come back after I leave.

[Star Tsar]

From earlier this year...



The Carol Rosin Show

Dr Steven Greer | Global Briefing & Universal Peace

Broadcast & Published 10th January 2018

Steven Greer’s time sensitive SPECIAL UPDATE BRIEFING: For superpower leaders and all world leaders, for those who can influence them, including for all listening. This unique presentation ranges from relevant global history to the universal happenings today, related to all interconnected global and universal issues and HOW TO get from here to real peace in space and on earth. Time-sensitive, this is about what TO DO, immediately, today.

Contact Carol Rosin:
spacetreaty@gmail.com
http://www.peaceinspace.com

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The Carol Rosin Show

Dr Steven Greer | After Chaos & Averting Extinction

Broadcast & Published 25th January 2018

In this SPECIAL interview, Dr. Steven Greer presents urgent new insights for policymakers and those who can influence them. In addition, he relates his astonishing personal experiences with the ET reality that shaped his entire future. This is a new talk about how we can and must dismiss old, negative disinformation in order to face Reality with facts, truth, and most important, the COURAGE to speak them despite predictable ridicule or discrediting. RIGHT NOW! Dr. Greer moves from international to universal, multi-dimensional thinking, with a new language, concepts, and actions. This is how we must deal with today’s chaos, and the on-going and accelerating human extinction process that all of us face. There is an urgent responsibility for every aware individual, including and especially policymakers (and media representatives), that includes the fact that we must focus on the important emphasis on peace in space, including with our cosmos neighbors. Peace in the cosmos is the NEW, overriding element in the equation to bring peace to our world(s). In his inimitable way, Dr. Greer offers new insights into what is happening now and to the truth about who we really are in the universes. These facts and this vision are our To Do List! They desperately require the COURAGE of every aware person on Mother Earth, right now, to educate ourselves and others in every way we can. Dr. Greer offers resources. Here is profoundly important new information for our very survival.

Contact Carol Rosin:
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[Innocent Warrior]

Unacknowledged Full Movie 2017 on Twitch TV (free): https://m.twitch.tv/videos/153598004

[Bill Ryan]

Unacknowledged Full Movie 2017 on Twitch TV (free): https://m.twitch.tv/videos/153598004

The movie's also here:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Unacknowledged_(2017)_Steven_Greer.mp4 (844 Mb)

And the book's in the library as well.


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Steven%20M.%20Greer%20-%20Unacknowledged%20-%20An%20Expos%E9%20of%20the%20World's%20Greatest%20Secret.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?

I sensed a different energy here, I have to say. As I mentioned, although I normally disregard everything Greer says (for quite good reasons), this time he really caught my attention, hence this thread.

Of minor note in his talk, but I think maybe significant, was that he stressed that he doesn't know what the Atacama being is (his whole presentation about that part was very measured and balanced), and also that in the bigger picture it really wasn't very important in itself, but was an interesting case study about how the media operates... which really seems to be true. He could have spun both those issues in a more sensational way, but he didn't.

It was the understatement of everything he said that I thought was a little different. And, as I also wrote, there wasn't a single thing he said which I knew about, or could actually check, that I felt was incorrect. That too was a change.

[snoman]

I'm struggling to glean any benefit to anyone from this.
When all the rivers have dried up
And all the forests have been uprooted
Only then will humanity understand
You can't eat information.
Eh hem.

[NeedleThreader]

At 1 hr 33 mins in, he seems to be morphing the focus from a 'catastrophic event' into a 'disclosure event', where it is up to 'us' to either become enlightened or not.

I think we have all heard this similar spin before. He is so willing to get you to 'throw out everything you know about UFOlogy' and 'forget the UFO 'buffoons', because he claims almost all UFO information has been a mass disinformation campaign.

Towards the last 15 minutes of the video, Greer seems like he is just amping up his next movie that will be 'ten times more this and better at that'.

I find it difficult to believe that Greer had just wrote the 'disclosure briefing at five AM that morning'. How extraordinary that he was approached by the two most powerful institutions in the world to draft what would become the most important words ever spoken or written in humanity? And then he is going to use his audience as test subjects for this briefing?

I really wish I could see what that letter said when he read it so I could think about and analyze it.

I know as a fact that this man has defiantly seen some s**t and probably been privy to a lot of information in his lifetime, I think most of his information here can be taken with a grain of salt.

[Bo Atkinson]

Physical world science and history proclaims nazi held tech and imminent doom. Emotional (aka: astral) ideas claim relief for humanity. We have shared these balances for years and our world has for eons, (too long).

Only by trekking these paths of info and testing the results, could we sort relevance vs irrelevance. We got varied results, individually situated, through all life. Tastes drew us through fictions and illusions. Life fits the holographic dream.

We have climbed different ladders. We might have questioned what is up, or what is down. What is light and what is dark. What is true or false. What advances consciousness or what retards it.

I feel most agreeable with a source rearranging meanings and words: Esoterics might sound too complex or arcane. It’s lost treasures are now subtly revealed. It comes through, just right for me. Older, formal English, referencing humanity up through the 1900s, (which demands contextualization for the 2000s). Awakening to realms beyond, which regulate earth’s progress, timelessly. It is the total human perception-deduction, which sets our fate.

Disciplined consciousness expansion is our best option by far. I’m piecing these ideas together, from: http://laurency.com

[Foxie Loxie]

Hey, Joe! Enjoyed your video....as always! :waving:

Let's see.....how many "extinction events" have there already been on this earth?! The one thing I have learned on Avalon is to Question Everything!! :idea:

[Bill Ryan]

I'm going to list all the things that seem to me to make little or no sense. But I still have quite a lot of attention on this.


The video was uploaded over 11 weeks after the presentation. Why the delay?
Where's Part 2?
Why is there nothing at ALL about this on http://SiriusDisclosure.com?
Who chose the title of the video "The Atacama Cover-up"? (This is not what the presentation is really about.) Greer is referred to in the third person in the video text. It wasn't him who wrote this.
Where's the text of his draft disclosure announcement that he said he'd go on to read, after the break?
Has something happened to cause Greer to go silent about this? (If so, who decided to upload the video, so much later? Could there be a conflict or disagreement within his organization?)
What kind of event could possibly be approved and greenlighted to threaten the lives of 5 billion people? Even if this is nonsense, Greer himself evidently believed it enough to tell his audience, either feigning or genuinely showing real emotion.

About the last item: what kind of event Greer believes (or knows) this might possibly be — whether it's real or not. Just regard this as a totally theoretical thought experiment to help us analyze the credibility and logic of what Greer seemed to be saying.

He says that 5 billion lives "hanging in the balance" is an "accurate number". A very high degree of control is implied for that kind of forecast to be accurate, whatever the scenario might be.


A global epidemic. Easy to control with classified antidotes to deploy if needed. (But how could this possibly be connected with an 'ET threat'? Remember that he said that TTSA, or those behind them, having sold the idea of potentially hostile ETs with the help of the media, might 'try to accelerate the False Flag'.)
Steering a small asteroid into the Pacific. (Very dangerous, though: 100% impossible to control the huge effects.)
Activating a supervolcano. (Again, impossible to control the effects.)
Planetary climate triggered, or amplified, to be so extreme and unstable that widespread crop failures result in global famine. (For those with extreme paranoia: taking wild speculation to an extreme, this might be what's already been 'greenlighted' and set into motion.) But again: there's no possible 'ET threat' connection.
A False Flag 'Independence Day' ET attack, using what Greer described as "weaponized interdimensional portals" could maybe just conceivably be simulated. But how does that imperil 5 billion people?

If you take these various pieces and spread them all out on a large table... none of them fit together.

And: whatever Greer believes might be set in motion, a Hollywood movie about nice aliens definitely isn't going to change a thing. :)

[norman]

We might need to think of it in a more multidynamic ( is that a word ? ) way.

What those people usually do is hide something in the chaos of the primary event, as in "it's a pefect day for releasing some bad news".

[Hervé]

[...]


A global epidemic. Easy to control with classified antidotes to deploy if needed. (But how could this possibly be connected with an 'ET threat'? Remember that he said that TTSA, or those behind them, having sold the idea of potentially hostile ETs with the help of the media, might 'try to accelerate the False Flag'.)
[...]

If you take these various pieces and spread them all out on a large table... none of them fit together. :)
Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs!...

Some of you may be familiar with the historical observation of the association between a "mist" and the propagation of the "Black Death" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death)?

Such a mist could be attributed to either ETs or some comet/asteroid tail foretelling of a new "Panspermia" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia)...


PS: Incidentally, this brings the discussion regarding this new movie: Avengers Infinity War, Sympathy For The Devil (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102687-Avengers-Infinity-War-Sympathy-For-The-Devil&highlight=avengers) as the newest illuminati propaganda blockbuster.

[greybeard]

Way back when I first joined current Avalon there was a very real sense that something dynamic was going to happen.
Ground crews were formed to be able to live off the grid, be self sufficient.
Most people here really believed this--me included.
There would be massive flooding , no power, or water supply--take to the hills etc.
Much food and water stored away.
Exciting times--friendships made-- many positive things as a result of this.

HOWEVER nothing happened.
Guess who was championing this!!!

SG if I remember correctly.

Chris

[Valerie Villars]

I'm odd man out with all of this disclosure stuff, as it was totally foreign to me five years ago, but since it is such a small community, can't someone contact anyone connected and just ask?

[Bill Ryan]

I'm odd man out with all of this disclosure stuff, as it was totally foreign to me five years ago, but since it is such a small community, can't someone contact anyone connected and just ask?

It's a valid question. But Greer is very much in a bubble with his own team, and he doesn't play that well with most other researchers. I don't know a single person who's close to him. And no way would he ever return my call. :)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

My first question was, what deed/event could even do what he claims? Cleanly eliminate 5 billion people, but reliably spare 2.5 billion? That's quite precise. It's technically possible I suspect, as we cannot know the true/real military capacities of the MIC.

But Greer has always had...a slithery sort of aura to me. With his track record in this field, and a possibly sordid backdrop to it too, I'm more sceptic than acolyte when it comes to what he has to say. He seems to have adopted a Wilcockesque brand of rhetoric – a 'give me money, and I'll give you the truth' sort of deal. He may be on to something, but I would very much want to know who he's been talking to.

At 1:35:30, after saying 5 billion lives were at stake, someone off-stage signals/whispers to him. Who is that, his handler? There follows an odd exchange, Greer checks himself, as if he's messed up by saying too much. Genuine, or theatre?

If white hats are trying to get the word out, why leak through Greer? Do it the proper way, through the proper channels, the WH, the press, even the alt-press and it's many outlets. If it's black hats feeding him intel, and I presume the same who are behind the evil plan, why issue a warning at all? The only reason for that I can think of: it's bogus, and the story is fear porn.

But maybe I'm missing something, I haven't yet had a chance to watch the whole thing.

Either way, personally I have doubts that the mass slaughter of humankind – on this vast scale – is (thankfully) even possible. Beyond the corridors and courts of human judgement and rule I believe there is a higher power still – call it what you will. Even if an act of violence by the hand of one, or a few, could murder 5 billion people, I just 'feel' that that would not be allowed, and would be thwarted any which way.

[norman]

If Greer isn't making it all up, the strongest part of it is that 2 different power groups asked him to write a script for an announcement. That very much implies that it's about exopolitics or alien invasion false flag, or a real one they want his positive spin on.

The only way I can link that up with a global decimation of humanity is if they intend to make it look like the aliens clobber us with an epidemic.

It seems far fetched but it would be a brilliant way to split us into 2 camps. The normies would blame the people who say nice things about higher conciousness and more intelligent beings.

The epidemic, of course would be nothing to do with aliens, but straight out of the cabal's secret labs.

Lots of microbiologists have died, trillions of dollars have gone missing, the cabal is exposed. With assets like that, we'd be nuts to think they wouldn't use them.

But I'm rambling around here pretty clueless.

edit to add:

Here's a thought. Trump and his band of generals have a LOT of clout but they are not in full control of the most advanced assets. The cabal are contemplating deploying the magical tech stuff against Trump's best clout.

To do that, they must OUT it to the public. They are trying to put together the right spin for that huge move. Among many implications of such a move, one would be to weaken the US miltary down to below what China can muster, a posive, in their eyes, I'm sure. They have been heading in that direction for years. This would just be a fix and a catch up in response to the calamity of Hillary losing in 2016.

[justntime2learn]

In my view, this Extinction Level Event is not going to happen. Not to the everyday people, anyways.

What we already see happening at present is the Deep State, & whatever factions, departments & compartments that it consists of - the Deep State is being threatened right now, as we speak. Its an Exitinction Level Event for the military-industrial / Deep State / bankster / cabal complex.

Having said that, yes, certainly the cabal will be pulling out all the stops in a last ditch effort to hang onto their position of control. And, the best way to is to 'create' an alien threat.

Steven Greer is trying to create a movement. But, to me, that movement has already begun, its already well on the way. Whatever event that the cabal will be throwing at the rest of the human population on this planet will blowback onto them. Its more than obvious that this is happening as we speak with Trump now. IMO, Trump is on the leading edge of what is coming to the rest of this planet. Its just the beginning.

I'm not so much into the writings in the Bible, or into religion so much, but it is written in the Bible scriptures. Whatever event the cabal will attempt to pull off, it will only cause the human population to become more awakened. Humanity will be challenged. And in being challenged, it will cause the consciousness of mankind to be piqued & rise in a crescendo.

We eventually will be challenged more than we ever have been before. We will be challenged - to the point that we will eventually do works greater that those that have become enlightened before us. If you want to talk about an event, I'm talking a mass enlightenment event taking place on this planet.

That is how I see it. So really, there's really nothing that one can do. There will be a percentage of the population that will be called forth. They will be filled with something that will spontaneously drive them to do what will be needed.

Its an exciting time to be alive.
So, in the meantime, just enjoy the show as it unfolds. :popcorn:

Blessings and thank you for this Turiya :)

For whatever it's worth, I've felt and feel the same way.

Thank you for your elegant words at a time like no other.

[Hervé]

Talking of "Panspermia," (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103720-Steven-Greer-s-new-assertion-of-a-planned-imminent-catastrophic-false-flag-event&p=1239264&viewfull=1#post1239264) there is this comment on SOTT (https://www.sott.net/article/392532-SARS-Remember-the-pandemic-that-was-going-to-wipe-out-humanity-We-re-still-here-Aug-1):
History, however, has had its numerous devastating plagues that also seem to have had a 'cosmic connection' - read from this excellent SOTT Focus article New Light on the Black Death: The Viral and Cosmic Connection (https://www.sott.net/article/228189-New-Light-on-the-Black-Death-The-Viral-and-Cosmic-Connection)
"Comets are vile stars. Every time they appear in the south, they wipe out the old and establish the new. Fish grow sick, crops fail, Emperors and common people die, and men go to war. The people hate life and don't even want to speak of it."
-Li Ch'un Feng, Director, Chinese Imperial Astronomical Bureau, 648, A.D.

That comment is regarding Jon Rappoport's article:

SARS: Remember the pandemic that was going to wipe out humanity? We're still here. Aug 1 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/remember-the-pandemic-that-was-going-to-wipe-out-humanity-were-still-here/)

... which is about the forced vaccinations to counter W.H.O.'s "pandemics"... another way of getting rid of "useless eaters."

[Helene West]

Don't occultists supposedly have some code or belief that you give the victim a warning beforehand of what is to befall them? It could be subtle and perhaps go over the heads of the victims like a tent but nevertheless they publish or declare or manifest some type of warning, symbolic or flamboyant, whatever.

I watched about 3/4 of the vid. I don't feel he's trying to start a movement. I did feel he had a definite purpose in speaking. It doesn't seem to make sense to us because making sense to us, explaining details to us, could be irrelevant. If his job is to carry out an occult warning to the targeted victims so they (our rulers) satisfy their own occult rules then he did his job and there probably won't be a Part 2.

[Bob]

[..]



SARS: Remember the pandemic that was going to wipe out humanity? We're still here. Aug 1 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/remember-the-pandemic-that-was-going-to-wipe-out-humanity-were-still-here/)



Just possibly Herve' there are some white hats that can stop worldwide pandemics pretty darned fast without vaccines - just sayin'

As to Greer, don't get me started - sat next to him on a private "invite only" panel (a private meeting) and had a very clear probing exercise happen. Two-way. I won, he ran out of the meeting after revealing the inner him. Had another meeting that he did not expect I was there. He tried to blind me with his high powered green laser when he saw it was me in the audience. I wouldn't waste my time or spend any dialog with anything the fellow has to say about any 'predictions' or what he may think is 'inside' stuff. Not impressed one bit.

[Valerie Villars]

I am not making a judgement, merely an observation. I am no expert, but I have to agree with Bob's assessment.

What I saw of him and Emery, all built up like some of the gym rats I see, I just got a really bad feeling about those two. And Emery was right there in all of it, gun conspicuously on his right hip. Like they were playing the part of some bad ass mother ****ers. Sort of imposing their physical presence on us. It was just weird.

[Bob]

I am not making a judgement, merely an observation. I am no expert, but I have to agree with Bob's assessment.

What I saw of him and Emery, all built up like some of the gym rats I see, I just got a really bad feeling about those two. And Emery was right there in all of it, gun conspicuously on his right hip. Like they were playing the part of some bad ass mother ****ers. Sort of imposing their physical presence on us. It was just weird.

I asked another member via an email just now to give their report on the 'greer' show, and the attacks that they subsequently experienced individually and to their family. The "show", the 'testing' of audience response, the "surveying" to see where the buttons may be are done all the time in entertainment (and psyops of course)..

[happyuk]

I think weaponized pathogens would be the tool of choice.

Speaking back in 1995, Admiral David E. Jeremiah of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff had this to say:

Somewhere in the back of my mind I still have this picture of five smart guys from Somalia or some other non-developed nation who see the opportunity to change the world. To turn the world upside down. Military applications of molecular manufacturing have even greater potential than nuclear weapons to radically change the balance of powers.

And as the White House US National Security Council has stated, "We are menaced less by fleets and armies than by catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few"

[Honesty]

Hal Puthoff is his CIA handler.

[Cardillac]

@Bill

many thanks for responding to my posting-

yes; I'm aware that Greer talked about a false flag event but with every false flag comes a certain amount of physical destruction (9/11 comes to mind) or geological manipulation (Haitian earthquake comes to mind)-

Larry

[Carmody]

Hal Puthoff is his CIA handler.

^ Steaming pile. Logic and reason is my handler.

[Flash]

Hal Puthoff is his CIA handler.

^ Steaming pile. Logic and reason is my handler.

lollll two extremely efficient words giving your whole opinion on many levels. The art of simple efficient messages!!

I have to remember this when I cannot follow your posts, they in fact may be very condensed few efficient words explanations of very complex situations.

Great man!!!

[Cardillac]

hi @Bob,

I don't doubt your statements for a second-

the only thing I can say about Greer (just watching/listening to videos with him) despite how calm, collected and non-sensationalist his presentations may be he has a creepy aura; it's just my gut feeling about things-

I also tend to think none of this will happen as he 'predicts' (so who is he really working for?) but I tend to think even with our most modern technologies we can't prevent some natural earth changes even if they're rather, uh, "uncomfortable" for the masses- or do you have information to the contrary?- if so please inform!

Larry

[Bob]

Larry - Hi

here is the cross-post which it seems to me is a very relevant observation

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7330-The-quality-of-Avalon-keeping-the-signal-to-noise-ratio-high&p=1238498&viewfull=1#post1238498




[...]

I have noticed, almost without exception:
- the people who seek peace and believe it's possible are usually soft spoken, polite and don't really push much. They offer.
In my opinion as a fellow traveler, this is a signal
- the people looking forward to it all falling apart are highly vocal, well versed in the art of subtle ridicule. They tell you what will be.
In my opinion as a fellow traveler, this is noise










hi @Bob,

I don't doubt your statements for a second-

the only thing I can say about Greer (just watching/listening to videos with him) despite how calm, collected and non-sensationalist his presentations may be he has a creepy aura; it's just my gut feeling about things-

I also tend to think none of this will happen as he 'predicts' (so who is he really working for?) but I tend to think even with our most modern technologies we can't prevent some natural earth changes even if they're rather, uh, "uncomfortable" for the masses- or do you have information to the contrary?- if so please inform!

Larry

[Michelle Marie]

And as the White House US National Security Council has stated, "We are menaced less by fleets and armies than by catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few"

There are a "host of catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few" that have come to the light of our awareness. Through research and discernment, we can find out how to best help promote the awakening of the truth of these destructive technologies, and provide solutions to the best of our abilities.

The genocide is already in progress, and the destructive technologies are being pushed upon us at an ever increasing speed.

All we can do is be our best, do our best, and help as much as possible.

That's why we are here.

How much of the cataclysm can we diminish? Only time will tell.

Our choices and intentions are powerful.

Any advance warning may be used to change the ultimate outcome.

We can see the conflicting energies in the information wars, and the conflict among people. Out of that chaos, a birthing is occurring. We are part of the higher purpose.

I have not listened to the entire video, but I caught the main points. The quote above is appropriate.

I'll weigh in again as time permits.

(I'm participating in a community awareness event later today regarding Smart Meters and other Trespassing Technology. We are waking up people at our city commissioners, and our public utility commission, as well as the general public. Like unraveling a ball of yarn, I do see how this can lead to discovering the network that is intent on causing the catastrophic event that Steven Greer is referring to.)

Even if you never listened to Steven Greer, get the message about the technology being used by the embittered few. It's not about the messenger! We can be our own messenger...just look around!

MM

[Foxie Loxie]

What a joy to read all the comments! :highfive:

After watching the "hurried" interview he did with Bill & Kerry, I have not wasted any time on listening to him. I would say "creepy" IS a good word to use in this case!!

Also, after the way he "used" David Adair, way back when, I would say there is no reason to "trust" him. This does seem to be a world of "handlers" at this point in time! Since so many people are more "awake" now, it is harder for the Controllers to pull the wool over our eyes!

Thanks for relating your experience with him, Bob! :flypig:

Just remembered the Red Rain that fell in Asia someplace! I do recall Wickramsinghe was involved in figuring that one out, but no one seemed to want to listen to him at the time.

Thanks, Herve, for the historical, cometary article. AND.... once again to Bill for providing this Forum where such things can be discussed! :bearhug:

[happyuk]

And as the White House US National Security Council has stated, "We are menaced less by fleets and armies than by catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few"

There are a "host of catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few" that have come to the light of our awareness. Through research and discernment, we can find out how to best help promote the awakening of the truth of these destructive technologies, and provide solutions to the best of our abilities.

The genocide is already in progress, and the destructive technologies are being pushed upon us at an ever increasing speed.

All we can do is be our best, do our best, and help as much as possible.

That's why we are here.

How much of the cataclysm can we diminish? Only time will tell.

Our choices and intentions are powerful.

Any advance warning may be used to change the ultimate outcome.

We can see the conflicting energies in the information wars, and the conflict among people. Out of that chaos, a birthing is occurring. We are part of the higher purpose.

I have not listened to the entire video, but I caught the main points. The quote above is appropriate.

I'll weigh in again as time permits.

(I'm participating in a community awareness event later today regarding Smart Meters and other Trespassing Technology. We are waking up people at our city commissioners, and our public utility commission, as well as the general public. Like unraveling a ball of yarn, I do see how this can lead to discovering the network that is intent on causing the catastrophic event that Steven Greer is referring to.)

Even if you never listened to Steven Greer, get the message about the technology being used by the embittered few. It's not about the messenger! We can be our own messenger...just look around!

MM

That's got me thinking. It's blindingly obvious to me now.

The truth is, an advanced weapon was used to vaporise all those buildings on 11 September 2001. It was probably pulled off using black budget technologies. Secret weapons, so to speak.

We can choose to ignore the fact that this technology exists. Or we can surmise that it can be used again, and repeatedly. 9/11 was a way of shoving this truth under our noses, that such a horrendous technology is available that can applied anywhere else. A possibility is that it was stolen from Nikola Tesla, who once said "You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension" (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1245641-you-may-live-to-see-man-made-horrors-beyond-your-comprehension).

This technology does not have to do what was done, it can surely be harnessed to do good things.

[Michelle Marie]

In my view, this Extinction Level Event is not going to happen. Not to the everyday people, anyways.

What we already see happening at present is the Deep State, & whatever factions, departments & compartments that it consists of - the Deep State is being threatened right now, as we speak. Its an Exitinction Level Event for the military-industrial / Deep State / bankster / cabal complex.

Having said that, yes, certainly the cabal will be pulling out all the stops in a last ditch effort to hang onto their position of control. And, the best way to is to 'create' an alien threat.

Steven Greer is trying to create a movement. But, to me, that movement has already begun, its already well on the way. Whatever event that the cabal will be throwing at the rest of the human population on this planet will blowback onto them. Its more than obvious that this is happening as we speak with Trump now. IMO, Trump is on the leading edge of what is coming to the rest of this planet. Its just the beginning.

I'm not so much into the writings in the Bible, or into religion so much, but it is written in the Bible scriptures. Whatever event the cabal will attempt to pull off, it will only cause the human population to become more awakened. Humanity will be challenged. And in being challenged, it will cause the consciousness of mankind to be piqued & rise in a crescendo.

We eventually will be challenged more than we ever have been before. We will be challenged - to the point that we will eventually do works greater that those that have become enlightened before us. If you want to talk about an event, I'm talking a mass enlightenment event taking place on this planet.

That is how I see it. So really, there's really nothing that one can do. There will be a percentage of the population that will be called forth. They will be filled with something that will spontaneously drive them to do what will be needed.

Its an exciting time to be alive.
So, in the meantime, just enjoy the show as it unfolds. :popcorn:

True that.

Catalysts for the evolution of consciousness!

I just wrote that earlier today in an email that I sent to a bunch of my friends: "It's a great time to be alive!"

More than watching the show, though, I think we are starring in it. :star: I feel that spontaneous force every day now. It's so exciting!

MM
:sun:

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And as the White House US National Security Council has stated, "We are menaced less by fleets and armies than by catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few"

There are a "host of catastrophic technologies in the hands of the embittered few" that have come to the light of our awareness. Through research and discernment, we can find out how to best help promote the awakening of the truth of these destructive technologies, and provide solutions to the best of our abilities.

The genocide is already in progress, and the destructive technologies are being pushed upon us at an ever increasing speed.

All we can do is be our best, do our best, and help as much as possible.

That's why we are here.

How much of the cataclysm can we diminish? Only time will tell.

Our choices and intentions are powerful.

Any advance warning may be used to change the ultimate outcome.

We can see the conflicting energies in the information wars, and the conflict among people. Out of that chaos, a birthing is occurring. We are part of the higher purpose.

I have not listened to the entire video, but I caught the main points. The quote above is appropriate.

I'll weigh in again as time permits.

(I'm participating in a community awareness event later today regarding Smart Meters and other Trespassing Technology. We are waking up people at our city commissioners, and our public utility commission, as well as the general public. Like unraveling a ball of yarn, I do see how this can lead to discovering the network that is intent on causing the catastrophic event that Steven Greer is referring to.)

Even if you never listened to Steven Greer, get the message about the technology being used by the embittered few. It's not about the messenger! We can be our own messenger...just look around!

MM

That's got me thinking. It's blindingly obvious to me now.

The truth is, an advanced weapon was used to vaporise all those buildings on 11 September 2001. It was probably pulled off using black budget technologies. Secret weapons, so to speak.

We can choose to ignore the fact that this technology exists. Or we can surmise that it can be used again, and repeatedly. 9/11 was a way of shoving this truth under our noses, that such a horrendous technology is available that can applied anywhere else. A possibility isthat it was stolen from Nikola Tesla, who once said "You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension" (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1245641-you-may-live-to-see-man-made-horrors-beyond-your-comprehension).

This technology does not have to do what was done, it can surely be harnessed to do good things.

That's where we're at.

Take the technology toys away from those who are using them irresponsibly, destructively, and put them to constructive use.

Let's do this!
:star:
MM

That's what this message is all about. Whether you get it at AimForTruth, Kevin Shipp, aplanetruth, or anywhere else, when we heed it we can turn things around.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Hal Puthoff is his CIA handler.

How do you know this?

[AutumnW]

The real extinction level event for Greer is his career. It must be cratering after the Ata fiasco. On the positive side, if he doesn't manage to suck people into his newer, brighter shinier con (distraction) there may be organ grinders out there looking for roided up monkey men to trail around on a leash.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

What kind of event could possibly be approved and greenlighted to threaten the lives of 5 billion people? Even if this is nonsense, Greer himself evidently believed it enough to tell his audience, either feigning or genuinely showing real emotion.

About the last item: what kind of event Greer believes (or knows) this might possibly be — whether it's real or not. Just regard this as a totally theoretical thought experiment to help us analyze the credibility and logic of what Greer seemed to be saying.

He says that 5 billion lives "hanging in the balance" is an "accurate number". A very high degree of control is implied for that kind of forecast to be accurate, whatever the scenario might be

I was looking into population statistics on the 5 billion number, as inaccurate as Wikipedia may be (I’m very open to a more accurate source to cross check this!).

The continent of Asia holds around 4 billion people. The continent of Africa holds about 1 billion people.

If there were, say, a well aimed storm system used to spread some sort of bioweapon or aerosol-based parasite or virus, the trade winds would spread it over some very densely populated areas. I noted that Greer said the world’s population. Additionally, he seems to have a thing with the TTSA. Eliozndo specialized in tropical diseases, parisitology, and immunology.

Also, note the lab coats on the children:

https://to-the-stars-web-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/files/Kids-Education-870x224.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_world

[Wes Penre]

Bill Ryan said: His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!).

I got the exact opposite impression, which is that he was faking his emotions. IMO, he can be a good actor when he needs to. Also, a person, regardless whether he's an experienced speaker, can't hide his body language. His body language (not only in this video, but possibly in all of them) indicates to me that he is not being honest with what he's saying. The way he touches his face, glasses, and ears, are three indicators--how he constantly corrects his collar as if it was uncomfortable, regardless what shirt or t-shirt he is wearing, respectively, is another.

Like so many other people here, I am not discarding that the Elite is planning a fake alien invasion that includes mass destruction and mass killings, but SG to me seems to have totally different motives here than to disclose such an event. And Bill, you wrote down some excellent bullet points in one of your posts...I personally couldn't agree more--to all of them.

[norman]

It seems most people here don't think Greer is for real enough to be taken seriously. That may be so.

On the other side of the picture, that he's indicating something real, even if he personally is being mugged in the process, we'd be foolish to think the cabal are in any way 'western' centric in their goals. The building up of China and the slow takedown of America indicates the opposite, if anything.

In all the scenarios I've run through my head over several years, it doesn't look good for the west. I think WW3 is a plan B and only required if we refuse to go quietly through the dumbing down and brainwashing. IF ww3 is chosen, I'm in no doubt that the intention would be for the west to lose and sign those all important surrender papers that wipe out everything we think of as our basic rights.

Another thing we'd be foolish to take for granted is that America has the upper hand militerally. With all we know about special access black projects, it's plainly obvious that those really special assets are not under American control, but under cabal control.

What's to stop the cabal from using those special assets to take out America's key war making tools in a surprise attack ?

Without it's aircraft carriers and satelites etc, would America stand a chance against a power like China ?, I think not.

Just a stalemate war that goes on and on would kill a very large number of people.



https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/020818jeong.jpg


The New York Times’ new editorial board member wrote scores of tweets expressing her hatred for “dumbass f**king white people,” including one which celebrated white people going extinct.


“Sarah Jeong is joining The New York Times editorial board. … [Jeong] will join us in September as our lead writer on technology. … Born in South Korea, Sarah grew up in North Carolina and California. She’s both a journalist and a lawyer,” the NYT announced yesterday.



The reason Jeong may have appealed to the mindset of those now running the Old Gray Lady soon became clear, after a series of tweets were unearthed in which Jeong’s anti-white racism was laid bare.



In one tweet, she complained about “dumbass f**king white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants.”

[Bill Ryan]

Bill Ryan said: His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!).I got the exact opposite impression, which is that he was faking his emotions.

I have to say, I listened several more times, and yes: now I'm not quite so sure. It has to be theoretically possible that the entire thing was invented theater to bolster Greer's longstanding general warnings of a false flag attack to frame the benevolent ETs.

Continuing the hypothesizing, that might be


Why the video title was "The Atacama Cover-up" (not "The giant false flag that may wipe out 5 billion people"),
Why Part 2 is missing,
Why it took so long for Part 1 to be published, and
Why there's nothing about this on the Sirius Disclosure website (http://siriusdisclosure.com).

He may have either had second thoughts, or pushback from his own colleagues, who might have said: "Steve, look, you just can't play around with this kind of thing. Your followers expect everything you say to be the truth."

[Andyvaz]

This subject has probably been done to death and if so, forgive me, I'm young to this and direct me to the relevant discussion. Dr Greer seems to have become a figurehead in the disclosure movement and is obviously a contentious figure. So what if he's been turned? When we look at the negative forces ( entities, ET's ) that supposedly pull the strings in the shadows, aren't they adept at mind control, clever infiltration and subtle influence? And if you have obvious personality defects which you have not worked on such as a large ego and pride, doesn't that make you more vulnerable to manipulation? And if Dr Greer's disclosure movement has become commercialised ( something I suspected not long after I took an interest and led to my distancing myself ) doesn't that smack of contamination by nefarious energies? I sat directly in front of him in a large, packed hall in London and at question time waved my arms frantically for over 20 minutes and was strangely ignored. I can't remember what my question was but I got the odd feeling he didn't want to answer it. Conversely, and this is just a muse, what if we are collectively controlling the chain of events? Humans are supposed to be incredibly creative, what if we are now being allowed to shape our destiny freely and are merely under scrutiny by external forces who will only step in if we really screw it up? There are so many suppositions, theories and contradictory stories that it all makes me feel like I'm going mad and maybe that's the aim.

[Wes Penre]

This subject has probably been done to death and if so, forgive me, I'm young to this and direct me to the relevant discussion. Dr Greer seems to have become a figurehead in the disclosure movement and is obviously a contentious figure. So what if he's been turned? When we look at the negative forces ( entities, ET's ) that supposedly pull the strings in the shadows, aren't they adept at mind control, clever infiltration and subtle influence? And if you have obvious personality defects which you have not worked on such as a large ego and pride, doesn't that make you more vulnerable to manipulation? And if Dr Greer's disclosure movement has become commercialised ( something I suspected not long after I took an interest and led to my distancing myself ) doesn't that smack of contamination by nefarious energies? I sat directly in front of him in a large, packed hall in London and at question time waved my arms frantically for over 20 minutes and was strangely ignored. I can't remember what my question was but I got the odd feeling he didn't want to answer it. Conversely, and this is just a muse, what if we are collectively controlling the chain of events? Humans are supposed to be incredibly creative, what if we are now being allowed to shape our destiny freely and are merely under scrutiny by external forces who will only step in if we really screw it up? There are so many suppositions, theories and contradictory stories that it all makes me feel like I'm going mad and maybe that's the aim.

I like your thinking :thumbsup: . Lots of nuggets here for all to ponder. As pure speculation, if the ET controllers of the Negative Kind, who are pretty obviously here, via their Minions here in our reality (the Elite) would choose someone to create a great spokesman for the controlled opposition, wouldn't they choose someone with high intelligence and a big ego that could be fairly easily swayed? I would think so. If I put myself in the Negative ET's shoes, I would use someone like SG, and I would probably steer him in a very similar direction they in that case have steered SG. When I listen to him in general, I can see how he'd perfectly fit the agenda. The negative ones need us to be separated into camps because a united humanity would be the end of them. SG would in that case do a "good job."

EDIT: I had my own encounter with SG's group shortly after the Disclosure Project video was released in the beginning of the millennium. I had a general question about the negative ETs, and instead of just telling me that from their understanding, there are no negative ETs in the Earth vicinity, they literally attacked me with anger and intimidation, telling me to stop promoting such nonsense. The tone they used totally caught me off guard.

[jasontorque]

The following article was published in the Independent newspaper (online in the UK) today. It was entitled ‘Scientists spot deep, unexplained 'fast radio burst' signal from space’. Above my pay-grade:shielddeflect:, but it mentions the unusual nature of the bursts being between the frequency of 400 and 800 MHz.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/signal-space-fast-radio-burst-frb-a8475696.html

[ichingcarpenter]

The following article was published in the Independent newspaper (online in the UK) today. It was entitled ‘Scientists spot deep, unexplained 'fast radio burst' signal from space’. Above my pay-grade:shielddeflect:, but it mentions the unusual nature of the bursts being between the frequency of 400 and 800 MHz.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/signal-space-fast-radio-burst-frb-a8475696.html

Interesting news........Perhaps these aliens should try adjusting the power spike in the tritonic isotope sensor array or de-scramble the bipolar neogenic isotope manipulator. They might even try need to re-align the ventral quantum resonance synthesizer.



These solutions will usually stop these bursts when I'm off planet with Corey or Emery using my technobabble generator. I think Greer will back me up on this if I give him money for his next two films

[HaveBlue]

Well I can say I saw the hacked email of the DNC pollsters with J Podesta and co knowing darned well they were in trouble and should they hoax an alien invasion to sway public opinion of Hillary as the UFO expert but decided against it. This was only one or two days out from the election when I saw it, as a result of a Jim Stone post and link to it. I can't recall the date of the writing of the emails, only the exposure of them.

Now that things are even worse for the Dems, in the process losing the blacks and the gays etc..., and walk away movement etc... I will agree with Greer that we should be on extreme alert for this type of thing as they slip further into desperation. The term Deep State is now in everyones vocabulary thanks in part to Greer.

If it is not an alien invasion they have planned, it may be the exotic tech used on 911 they have in mind. The figure of 5 billion is not the whole planet but is the number recommended on the Georgia guide stones, should you do the maths. But who was it that Teslas papers were given to after he died? John G Trump, Donalds uncle! And Donald just happened to mention his uncle recently in a press conference saying 'my uncle used to tell me about nuclear, I know all about nuclear. Could that have been a veiled 'don't even bother' to the cabal, I know what you're up to?

And the beat goes on!

Sometimes, even people we may not personally like, must be given credit or at least some slack, for their accomplishments. AKA not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Greer and our own Kerry C are people I hold in high regard but am critical at the same time. They certainly give us things to think about.

[turiya]

This subject has probably been done to death and if so, forgive me, I'm young to this and direct me to the relevant discussion. Dr Greer seems to have become a figurehead in the disclosure movement and is obviously a contentious figure. So what if he's been turned? When we look at the negative forces ( entities, ET's ) that supposedly pull the strings in the shadows, aren't they adept at mind control, clever infiltration and subtle influence? And if you have obvious personality defects which you have not worked on such as a large ego and pride, doesn't that make you more vulnerable to manipulation? And if Dr Greer's disclosure movement has become commercialised ( something I suspected not long after I took an interest and led to my distancing myself ) doesn't that smack of contamination by nefarious energies? I sat directly in front of him in a large, packed hall in London and at question time waved my arms frantically for over 20 minutes and was strangely ignored. I can't remember what my question was but I got the odd feeling he didn't want to answer it. Conversely, and this is just a muse, what if we are collectively controlling the chain of events? Humans are supposed to be incredibly creative, what if we are now being allowed to shape our destiny freely and are merely under scrutiny by external forces who will only step in if we really screw it up? There are so many suppositions, theories and contradictory stories that it all makes me feel like I'm going mad and maybe that's the aim.

I like your thinking :thumbsup: . Lots of nuggets here for all to ponder. As pure speculation, if the ET controllers of the Negative Kind, who are pretty obviously here, via their Minions here in our reality (the Elite) would choose someone to create a great spokesman for the controlled opposition, wouldn't they choose someone with high intelligence and a big ego that could be fairly easily swayed? I would think so. If I put myself in the Negative ET's shoes, I would use someone like SG, and I would probably steer him in a very similar direction they in that case have steered SG. When I listen to him in general, I can see how he'd perfectly fit the agenda. The negative ones need us to be separated into camps because a united humanity would be the end of them. SG would in that case do a "good job."

EDIT: I had my own encounter with SG's group shortly after the Disclosure Project video was released in the beginning of the millennium. I had a general question about the negative ETs, and instead of just telling me that from their understanding, there are no negative ETs in the Earth vicinity, they literally attacked me with anger and intimidation, telling me to stop promoting such nonsense. The tone they used totally caught me off guard.

Although some may be hesitant to even consider it, but for others its quite obvious. The 'Negative ETs' are most definitely here & amongst us. It could be said that the invasion has already been taking place, as they've been here for quite some time - for hundreds of years, if not longer than that - studying humanity, finding out what humanity's weak links are.

And some of these can be readily seen, of course in varying degrees according to the individual. Such qualities as the pompousness found in an inflated ego, a gullibility factor - the willingness to so easily adopt, for the sake of convenience, that which is being said by others to form a belief system, rather than making a more arduous effort to find things out for oneself, through one's own experience.

Its been said that the Bavarian Illuminati, upon its inception, had been infiltrated by these entities, mainly because both parties have had the same contrived agenda - to take control over this planet. Their plans were a match. And certainly a match that was not made in heaven, but the polar opposite.

The operation has been long running. Just look at how the central bankers have operated over the years - a long term plan to rule over the planet. The same with the Vatican. And the royal families. The Deep State. They've had a long running plan to rule & control.

Yes, and I'll say it - for the most part, these 'negative' ETs have been behind - through mind control - most of the destructive forces that have plagued this planet for as long as history has documented these events.

The good news part of this, is that with all the misery that has been created, it is causing much of the population to wake up to that which has been running as the undercurrent to the manipulation that has been taking place for so long.

Waking up is a painful process. In having an Extinction Level Event suddenly drop on us, the consequences of that can only lead to a larger percentage of the population waking up from out of their sleepy doldrum lives that they've been living up to now.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel, if one is insightful enough to see it. :)

[Bayareamom]

@turiya,

EXCELLENT post!

:thumbsup:

[ThePythonicCow]

EDIT: I had my own encounter with SG's group shortly after the Disclosure Project video was released in the beginning of the millennium. I had a general question about the negative ETs, and instead of just telling me that from their understanding, there are no negative ETs in the Earth vicinity, they literally attacked me with anger and intimidation, telling me to stop promoting such nonsense. The tone they used totally caught me off guard.
"We're full of peace and love, introducing humanity to the ET's who are here, and who are also full of peace and love ... and if you doubt that, then OFF WITH YOUR F*N HEAD!!"

:)

[Michelle Marie]

The good news part of this, is that with all the misery that has been created, it is causing much of the population to wake up to that which has been running as the undercurrent to the manipulation that has been taking place for so long.

Waking up is a painful process. In having an Extinction Level Event suddenly drop on us, the consequences of that can only lead to a larger percentage of the population waking up from out of their sleepy doldrum lives that they've been living up to now.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel, if one is insightful enough to see it. :)

I see two things happening simultaneously:

1) Propagandizing/inculcating people to go along with their agenda and become Minions.

Just this week I was told a story by a personal friend whose daughter is going to nursing school. They make the medical profession the heroes, and the patients/public into wild, crazy, irrational people whose decisions are not sound so that they have to be overridden. In the scenario given to the nurse in training, the young child is about to die from appendicitis. The mother does not want the child to have surgery. She is made out to be a crackpot, so the ethical dilemma is, should they do surgery anyway.

Another video that I just started watching today propagandizes local city and county government officials. In one scenario, they make a public speaker wanting to save a tree frenzied and out of control and remove her from the city council meeting with the Seargeant at arms.

A TV news story is presented where a teacher protests her boss's raise and is taken away in handcuffs.

They are using propaganda to create conflict, demonize people, then take away their rights and free speech.

Then, the video moves into the Smart Cities surveillance and high tech radiation plans...

Of course, the ones with the biggest egos get to have power and control over others. They go along with the program for their perks.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME...

2) Minions waking up and instead of following along, walk in the light of truth and integrity and do the right thing.

I call this phenomenon "Minions Become Masters". People in the #Walkaway movement are awakening. Light is active; darkness is passive. If you open a door between a dark and light room, the light spills into the dark room. The darkness retreats. This means the light of awareness will continue to spread.

I've had the inculcation treatment. Teachers were being taught how to understand why we need the carbon taxes because environmental problems are all our (humans) fault. Taxes, codes, and control of us is the solution, so they profess.

I wrote something about "Minions Become Masters" and put it on the Message page of my website.

Here is the link:
http://smile4love.com/messages/
Scroll down, it's just under the video.

After I finish taking notes on the inculcation/propagandizing the local government officials, I'll find a place to post it.

MM

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I was looking into population statistics on the 5 billion number, as inaccurate as Wikipedia may be (I’m very open to a more accurate source to cross check this!).

The continent of Asia holds around 4 billion people. The continent of Africa holds about 1 billion people.

If there were, say, a well aimed storm system used to spread some sort of bioweapon or aerosol-based parasite or virus, the trade winds would spread it over some very densely populated areas...

I was pondering this question too. Then I remembered one Bill's threads from a few years ago (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73052-V-the-Guerrilla-Economist-posts-the-most-important-information-he-s-ever-shared--4--General-reveals-The-Plan--), and a detail in it involving some real black world nastiness. It would be absolutely devastating if true. Killing 5 billion would be a piece of cake with this. I'm sure Bill won't mind me quoting it here:



And the example that he gave me was this. If you have a 33 oz. can of Folgers coffee, and you take that can of coffee and you have this bio agent in there, and all of a sudden you walk into a busy area – let’s say an overpass in Dallas, Texas, or the George Washington Bridge right here in New York, or something similar to that, where you have a very heavy traffic area – and you just happen to open up that Folgers can.

And if the wind outside was about – let’s say about three miles per hour or so – you could have twenty million dead in three days. Twenty million dead in three days. The General went on to say that this type of bio agent will affect the water, the food, and the air. It will take three days to kill, with a near 98 percent kill ratio.

[Sunny-side-up]

I just feel like saying this here and now.
Angles don't all look like white pristine winged beings they can and do look like small gargoyles.
Same goes for Demons, they don't all have mouths full of blood dripping fangs they can and do look like you and me.

[Foxie Loxie]

Sunny-side-up....What you just posted made me think of what Jordan Maxwell related. At a certain point in his life, one night a very elegant "gentleman" appeared at the foot of his bed & offered him "everything" & the opportunity to move into his exalted "position".

When Jordan said "No"; the "gentleman" simply disappeared!! :dizzy:

[amor]

He has clearly outlined who the Majestic crowd are, the OIL OLIGARCHS and their CRONIES, nearly all awaiting the arrival of their one hundredth birthdays before leaving the planet worse than they found it. The problem is all the fabrics, materials, plastics made from oil. These things can either be phased out gradually or their substitutes produced by free energy and dematerialized by free energy instead of polluting the planet.

Perhaps the Aliens can tell us how they handle their system of exchange, greed and all. Now as to OIL, we have all swallowed the next fable they put out there, and that is that OIL IS RENEWABLE. Hogwash! If oil is renewable, why has one of Saudi Arabia's biggest Wells gone dry? Why is the USA having to use fracking to produce oil??? Why don't they tell people the truth about fracking? CONCENTRATED SULFURIC ACID AND CAUSTICS ARE POLLUTING YOUR WATER TABLE SO THEY CAN KEEP PUMPING OIL! It is time to have electric vehicles which produce their own electricity as their wheels turn. It is time for each home to have its own tiny generating electric plant which you can hold in your hand. It is time to have recycled water by fractional distillation and toilets that dematerialize what normally goes into them. We should put the Majestic Gang to sweep up the plastic in the oceans and collect the plastic containers in my kitchen which are filling all my cupboards. It is time to give the Majestic Fossils as food to the Aliens.

[Justplain]

I remember seeing a vid from Greer earlier this year asserting that, for sure, 2018 was the year for a massive false flag alien invasion. Now, he's enhanced the narrative to include a 'near extinction level event'. Is it possible that the deep state is feeding this guy a line, to churn up his followers, cause some dissonance, and in the process seriously damage greer's credibility? Sounds like stuff we heard about the end of the world in 2012, doesnt it?

[CurEus]

I have watched the videos posted in this thread.......my takeaway is

He raises some interesting points about media and academics being manipulated...and the publication about the Acamana (sp) DNA results purposefully "altered". That can be proven, according to the people he indicates he is working with.
We are aware that "severe population reduction" is a purported goal.

I have no doubt that there are very exotic technologies we do not have access to so we can continue to support a very outmoded energy system. 5100 + patents are blocked under "national security" orders.
I do not understand his position with all aliens being benevolent......or dark governments doing all of the abductions or cattle mutilations.

Just not comfortable with the message or the messenger........if he is having close encounters with ET's. Bring one on stage with you!

I believe his body language is off putting because he is gay and just not comfortable in his own skin and not "out" publicly. So in that case, if true, he would not be comfortable and continually pretending. It comes off as disingenuous.
This is not a denouncement, as a Gay male I have seen this before. He is from an older generation ( He's about 70) that has had to hide...he does continually mention alienism, racism, and homophobia....

It seems that he certainly enjoys the limelight....

[ichingcarpenter]

Greer's official Youtube Channel 'Sirius Disclosure'' Comments are disabled for this video and Comments are disabled for this video and this video and this video. No comments allowed... Sure youtube comments can be nasty,trollish, juvenile and inane but sometimes they can be thought provoking, intelligent and enlightening that explores and expands or knowledge of the subject mentioned. Comments on youtube go with the territory and I will ignore for the most when they are not allowed.

Greer says his story is the most important information for the planet yet he allows no comments? Disclosure by definition is making something known but he allows no discussion? To me this is part of his stink or arrogance I get from him.

So he's tainted, TTS is tainted, SBA is just plain rancid .......The baby's bathwater these days is almost killing the baby and making the baby almost infectious to all of UFOlogy. These grains of salt are getting smaller and smaller or is it larger and larger?

[Magnus]

Based on the information in the videos below, they IMO importantly complement each other and helps to show some of Greer's motives, where he is coming from and what he is aiming at, I spent the time watching them all:

5 March 2010, National Geographic - The World Without Oil Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4BB3HFi5g

21 March 2016, Major Ed Dames - "There is no sense for Dr. Doom to be out there on the road talking killshot past 2016, so i'm not gonna do it" MP3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180810133846/http://ddl2.data.hu/get/301247/11354818/Coast_to_Coast_-_Ed_Dames_Killshot_update_Mar_21_2016_-_Hour_3_no_sense_talking_killshot_past_2016_00h09m00s.mp3) [00:09:00]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCawjVbDY-Q&feature=youtu.be&t=7m30s

15 December 2016 Steven Greer - The Cosmic False Flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0Rpy0Dhhs

20 April 2017, Major Ed Dames - Farewell Message & Killshot Predictions.
From description: "Major Ed Dames sees the UFO issue as coming from a non-human intelligence that is "millions of years ahead of us" and uses consciousness as a universal language. Because of this, he believes that humanity is not ready for any meaningful contact with this intelligence. He thinks that the apparent nonsensical nature of many sightings and encounters are a way of using deception and puzzles to help mankind on an evolutionary path, and coming conflicts worldwide."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAfM2NsiBCU

10 January 2018, 00:45:33 - 00:45:33 Greer - "Launch a fake disclosure scaring the hell out of people with a threat from outer space"
https://youtu.be/q_uihf8idIY?t=45m33s

6 April 2018, Steven Greer & Carol Rosin / Guy McPherson "We may have ten years left or less"
https://youtu.be/UxxVZsctjUs?t=9m37s

7 April 2018, Humans Will be Extinct in 10 years: Dr. Guy Mcpherson
https://youtu.be/Gh30Kx1o5lI?t=3m38s

The human proclivity for procreation demands to be adjusted according to a sustainable availability of resources, but have not been for a very long time.

12 May 2018, Steven Greer - The Atacama Cover-Up
This segment 1:07:36 - 1:08:50 explains what has been "greenlighted and approved".
https://youtu.be/ZEht3iVnf2Q?t=1h07m36s

1:35:24: He says: "There's about 5 billion of the 7.5 billion lives hanging in the balance." Then he says: “That’s an accurate number.” - An "accurate number" got to be corroborated by several data points to be called accurate. What are those data points corroborating the accuracy of 5 billion? Social panic on a global scale and impending scarce resources, for any reason, may be any of those points, possibly caused by the false flag e.t. threat, not a too serious stretch IMO. Then there could be any number of planned points of hazardous outcome from the e.t. threat, we don't know a thing about the possible suboperations of their plan.

Altogether, I think Greer is trying to tell us that we are both cooked and fried if the intelligence community wins the disclosure race with their e.t. threat false flag event, opposed to a public disclosure in humanitys best interest. 1:13:25 - 1:13:38 (The Atacama Cover-Up https://youtu.be/ZEht3iVnf2Q?t=1h13m25s ) Greer is also hinting that a staged false flag event, risk being accelerated by the progress of public disclosure.

Our own former, badass cockney "Charles" talked about plans to cull the population. - Greer: "five billion hanging in the balance"

wnlight's recent dowsing prediction: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102695-World-Wide-City-Population-Changes-by-End-of-2019

X-files season 10 have an interesting plot about a virus designed to cull the population, except those primed with an alien antidote. Maybe the only reason they restarted the series was as a medium to present their plan to the masses, that was my paranoid suspicion when it aired.

I believe Greer is genuinely emotional, possibly more so after the injury he had to his shoulder, and he mentions he is in a "very very lonely place", he may be suffering from buildup of negative emotional pressure as well. We don't know what he knows or if he has been threatened in some way. There is a new energy to him, here I appreciate his manner. He seems to be under heavy pressure, probably also extensively worried for his children and grandchildren.

Greer, with thick voice, almost a bit ashamed, admits at one point that he has made "mistakes in the past", my feeling is that he is inclined to make up for something.

Greer is obviously deeply upset by something, as upset as I would be if I had been made aware that e.t's are on their way to tidy up rogue elements and oppressors, and I were dirty.

Greer mention that he have forsaken about 12 million dollar worth of a doctors wage, to run the disclosure project. Yet he seem to be doing quite well economically, or maybe he isn't?

In Greers other video "The Cosmic False Flag", he repeats again and again: "don't be fooled again", I'm weighing if he beyond the obvious has attached a gentle subliminal meaning to this repetition.

What Greers ELE won't be, is an expected natural catastrophe, because if it were, it wouldn't do any good to make the ce5 movie and educating the 1% as to what's going on and hence be able to save us from the false flag.

"Then there's a 15 minute break, followed by two more hours. But as best I know, that's not been published." - It seems that it is available for a fee:

https://siriusdisclosure.com/event/phoenix-workshop-stanford-atacama-coverup/
https://portaltoascension.org/event/greer-stanford-atacama-ce5-livestream/

[Agarthian]

As many reading this will know, I'm no fan of Steven Greer, and have been a very strident critic of his for several years. There are other threads about this. But here, there's not a single thing he says that I know about, or can check, that I'd disagree with. It's actually understated, measured, calm, undramatic and precise.

His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!), and all I can say is that this got my strong attention.

Stick to your instincts, Bill! I think Greer's lost it :) Just as one example, that whole Atacama 'alien' was discovered and analyzed by Klaus Dona a full 12 years before Greer ever 'discovered' it for himself and made a big deal about it in Sirius... Haha

I can tell you that everything Greer says about Germany in that video is false. I have been researching about what happened in Germany and who was behind it, in the native German language. Amazing what you learn. Greer's not even partially false. He's TOTALLY wrong. So his 'intel' source is pretty flawed if you ask me. This might sound distasteful to some, given what's been drilled into our minds for the past 70 years or so about the Germans and what happened here. But from my perspective, the same forces that have brainwashed society, the media and educational system, control the banking and petro-chemical-pharmacological system now, are the ones who sold us the history of what happened in WWII and what caused it. So why should we believe them? Who would be so bold as to cast aside the official story and seek the truth? These days it's become a crime to do so. That should tell us something. Yet, Hollywood films are still being made and promoted which glorify sick, sociopathic, alcoholic, war-mongerers like Churchill, a society boy coward who WANTED war at all costs. That should also tell us something. Sorry for the rant but it's getting hard to listen to the Greers of the world and not just laugh. Too much energy wasted trying to listen and decipher what part is true and what part BS mixed in for good distortion.

So that only leaves the question for me, who is Greer really? He is definitely not acting. He is convinced about what he says, but he may be a deeply embedded mind-control slave. Even a clone. He's not speaking the truth. Sorry. He doesn't know what is really going on, though it's dangerous, because he talks in absolutes as if he does and people believe it. Nothing is certain and nothing is absolute. Be wary of people that are 100% certain. Trust your heart and gut feelings.

Just my 2 cents. But then, maybe I'm wrong, and we're all going to die soon in this 'extinction level event' (which seems once again to have been temporarily post-poned) unless we get on the same side. Actually that's about the most valuable thing he said. We should all get smart, get together, call out the corrupt system and take back the reigns!

Peace

[Arcturian108]

Few people on this site know that Steven Greer was a devotee of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a teacher of Transcendental Meditation. I share that background with him, and I see in Greer the kind of expression of certainty that comes naturally to one given real spiritual power. I have never met Greer and do not know how he obtained his unique sources, but the apocalyptic references and the prevention of mega-disasters are familiar themes to me as Maharishi spoke frequently about bringing the world out of Kali Yuga (a long age of darkness) and into Sat-Yuga (an age of Enlightenment) through raising collective consciousness. Greer's themes appear to be a space-age adaptation of this same message.

[Justplain]

I think we can give Greer credit for having the courage to hold that incredible disclosure press conference in 2000 in washington dc. That was an extremely important event and gave any discerning person invaluable info that et's exist, are visiting Earth and possess very advanced tech. We will always owe Dr. Greer for that.

However, greer appears in many ways to be a compromised source of et info. His belligerent blindness to the presence of negative et's is one indicator. Secondly, his absurd assertion that all abductions are operations of the black ops military also indicates that he has somehow been brainwashed.

I wouldnt worry too much about this end of the world watch. Didnt we hear this theme at the turn of the millenium, and in 2012? Why should we be surprised when 2018 ends normally and we continue on as usual?

[Mari]

Few people on this site know that Steven Greer was a devotee of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a teacher of Transcendental Meditation. I share that background with him, and I see in Greer the kind of expression of certainty that comes naturally to one given real spiritual power. I have never met Greer and do not know how he obtained his unique sources, but the apocalyptic references and the prevention of mega-disasters are familiar themes to me as Maharishi spoke frequently about bringing the world out of Kali Yuga (a long age of darkness) and into Sat-Yuga (an age of Enlightenment) through raising collective consciousness. Greer's themes appear to be a space-age adaptation of this same message.

Going slightly off-topic (apologies!) I practice TM, & although no 'devotee' of the Maharishi, I tend to agree that the human race has managed to avoid a mega-disaster befalling the Earth, thanks to the fact that we've managed to raise our collective consciousness enough to have averted it by switching onto another 'timeline'. Sure, there will be a LOT of upheaval/clearing out, but nothing like the near extinction-level events predicted by the doom-sayers.

Not having seen this particular talk of Greer's (yet) I can't offer my opinion, but on the strength of Bill's take on it, I think Greer does believe in what he's presenting, but whether its his own conclusions or brainwashing/mind implants, we'll have to wait n see!
For my part, I truly believe that we are protected & these scenarios will not be allowed to play out in full.

[Rawhide68]

Part 2 of it is out now :)
Close Encounters of the 5th Kind (Phoenix Lecture Pt. 2)

t_EPLW2Ctvo

[Honesty]

All of Greer's colleagues left him in late 2012 once they realized just how corrupt he really is...I can't believe people are still buying into his b.s...well, maybe I can.

[ichingcarpenter]

Part 2 of it is out now :)
Close Encounters of the 5th Kind (Phoenix Lecture Pt. 2)

t_EPLW2Ctvo

Comments are disabled for this video. and this video and this video...... you cannot discuss, challenge , agree, add to, talk, chat
or even 'disclosure new information'' on his channel......

[Magnus]

Part 2 of it is out now :)
Close Encounters of the 5th Kind (Phoenix Lecture Pt. 2)

t_EPLW2Ctvo

Comments are disabled for this video. and this video and this video...... you cannot discuss, challenge , agree, add to, talk, chat
or even 'disclosure new information'' on his channel......

A smart move if one expect high noise to signal ratio, everyone watching is given an untainted chance to make up their mind for themselves. Observe and discern is my mantra.

[Magnus]

Few people on this site know that Steven Greer was a devotee of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a teacher of Transcendental Meditation. I share that background with him, and I see in Greer the kind of expression of certainty that comes naturally to one given real spiritual power. I have never met Greer and do not know how he obtained his unique sources, but the apocalyptic references and the prevention of mega-disasters are familiar themes to me as Maharishi spoke frequently about bringing the world out of Kali Yuga (a long age of darkness) and into Sat-Yuga (an age of Enlightenment) through raising collective consciousness. Greer's themes appear to be a space-age adaptation of this same message.

Going slightly off-topic (apologies!) I practice TM, & although no 'devotee' of the Maharishi, I tend to agree that the human race has managed to avoid a mega-disaster befalling the Earth, thanks to the fact that we've managed to raise our collective consciousness enough to have averted it by switching onto another 'timeline'. Sure, there will be a LOT of upheaval/clearing out, but nothing like the near extinction-level events predicted by the doom-sayers.

Not having seen this particular talk of Greer's (yet) I can't offer my opinion, but on the strength of Bill's take on it, I think Greer does believe in what he's presenting, but whether its his own conclusions or brainwashing/mind implants, we'll have to wait n see!
For my part, I truly believe that we are protected & these scenarios will not be allowed to play out in full.

What is your take on the Mandela effect?

[Magnus]

I think we can give Greer credit for having the courage to hold that incredible disclosure press conference in 2000 in washington dc. That was an extremely important event and gave any discerning person invaluable info that et's exist, are visiting Earth and possess very advanced tech. We will always owe Dr. Greer for that.

However, greer appears in many ways to be a compromised source of et info. His belligerent blindness to the presence of negative et's is one indicator. Secondly, his absurd assertion that all abductions are operations of the black ops military also indicates that he has somehow been brainwashed.

I wouldnt worry too much about this end of the world watch. Didnt we hear this theme at the turn of the millenium, and in 2012? Why should we be surprised when 2018 ends normally and we continue on as usual?

Never seize to be vigilant, never forget the "Cry Wolf" syndrome.

[Mari]

Few people on this site know that Steven Greer was a devotee of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a teacher of Transcendental Meditation. I share that background with him, and I see in Greer the kind of expression of certainty that comes naturally to one given real spiritual power. I have never met Greer and do not know how he obtained his unique sources, but the apocalyptic references and the prevention of mega-disasters are familiar themes to me as Maharishi spoke frequently about bringing the world out of Kali Yuga (a long age of darkness) and into Sat-Yuga (an age of Enlightenment) through raising collective consciousness. Greer's themes appear to be a space-age adaptation of this same message.

Going slightly off-topic (apologies!) I practice TM, & although no 'devotee' of the Maharishi, I tend to agree that the human race has managed to avoid a mega-disaster befalling the Earth, thanks to the fact that we've managed to raise our collective consciousness enough to have averted it by switching onto another 'timeline'. Sure, there will be a LOT of upheaval/clearing out, but nothing like the near extinction-level events predicted by the doom-sayers.

Not having seen this particular talk of Greer's (yet) I can't offer my opinion, but on the strength of Bill's take on it, I think Greer does believe in what he's presenting, but whether its his own conclusions or brainwashing/mind implants, we'll have to wait n see!
For my part, I truly believe that we are protected & these scenarios will not be allowed to play out in full.

What is your take on the Mandela effect?

Strong evidence emerging that it could indeed relate to parallel realities, but in my personal case it feels like good 'ol 'selective attention'.
As it applies to Greer, I really don't know!

[Mari]

Never seize to be vigilant, never forget the "Cry Wolf" syndrome.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I suspect that its part of a plan to discredit the Alternative movement. In the end, no one will be bothered to investigate any more alarmist 'bulletins'. Clever, really.

[Denise/Dizi]

if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this

He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.

yes, where 2 billion people may die - an extinction event duly prepared to be implemented 10 years earlier than planned, therefore not a natural event, although geological manipulation may be part of it.

Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?

I had a contact experience in which I was warned that someone may make an attempt to "Blow up the planet" .. "If they don't KNOCK IT OFF".. Thy didn't clarify who "They" were, or who would blow it up.. But I believed it.. So personally I give some creedence to the information. Whether it is false flag or et, how could we know?

I have learned one thing in this field, even if people lie, we shouldn't necessarily throw out the baby with the bath water. I think Bil himself said that.. And while I was given many messages, and never asked to discuss them, I can't help but at the very least speak up and say I heard this as well... For whatever it is worth. It's all so very confusing.

[Bill Ryan]

I had a contact experience in which I was warned that someone may make an attempt to "Blow up the planet"
[...]
Whether it is false flag or et, how could we know?


Well, blowing up the planet might be kind of self-defeating as a False Flag event. :)

[Mike Gorman]

I wonder if Q Anon is a part of this awakening effort, to try and get the 1% up to a certain standard?

[Pam]

From the other video, "Sirius" he seems to building us up to accepting a false flag involving aliens, on a number of levels. So, he seems to be warning us this will be the next step taken by whoever or whatever is really running this world.

That coupled with Trump saying we need a Space Force and the ptb upping the anty to get more money and control, it seems they have nowhere to go but "up" so to speak in the whole false flag maneuver.


I think what you stated here is a logical conclusion to what we see happening. No "insiders" or secret sources needed. I for one am waiting for just one of these guys predictions of future events to actually happen. I know this won't be popular here but what actual difference have any of these UFO "experts" made with their secret sources and insider discoveries? Has anything changed for the better or worse due to their revelations, other than revealing government coverups? Are we any closer to the truth? I feel like if they have done anything, they have muddied the waters so it is near impossible to tell fact from fiction. On the other hand, if someone is listening for entertainment that is another thing. We will have better luck using our own intuitive skills, reason and logic to see the probabilities of future events. I, for one, won't be entering a bunker anytime soon based on his assessment.

If Edgar Cayce was unable to predict the future accurately, I am not going to be holding my breath for the likes of Greer.

[Pam]

At 1 hr 33 mins in, he seems to be morphing the focus from a 'catastrophic event' into a 'disclosure event', where it is up to 'us' to either become enlightened or not.

I think we have all heard this similar spin before. He is so willing to get you to 'throw out everything you know about UFOlogy' and 'forget the UFO 'buffoons', because he claims almost all UFO information has been a mass disinformation campaign.

Towards the last 15 minutes of the video, Greer seems like he is just amping up his next movie that will be 'ten times more this and better at that'.

I find it difficult to believe that Greer had just wrote the 'disclosure briefing at five AM that morning'. How extraordinary that he was approached by the two most powerful institutions in the world to draft what would become the most important words ever spoken or written in humanity? And then he is going to use his audience as test subjects for this briefing?

I really wish I could see what that letter said when he read it so I could think about and analyze it.

I know as a fact that this man has defiantly seen some s**t and probably been privy to a lot of information in his lifetime, I think most of his information here can be taken with a grain of salt.


I think a lot of these guys originally did have information to present. They really did have a reason to be talking. Then the fame and reputation and maybe money became the the goal and the "information" became a means to an end.

[Agape]

I had a contact experience in which I was warned that someone may make an attempt to "Blow up the planet"
[...]
Whether it is false flag or et, how could we know?


Well, blowing up the planet might be kind of self-defeating as a False Flag event. :)


But how many people get the joke :waving:

[Flash]

At 1 hr 33 mins in, he seems to be morphing the focus from a 'catastrophic event' into a 'disclosure event', where it is up to 'us' to either become enlightened or not.

I think we have all heard this similar spin before. He is so willing to get you to 'throw out everything you know about UFOlogy' and 'forget the UFO 'buffoons', because he claims almost all UFO information has been a mass disinformation campaign.

Towards the last 15 minutes of the video, Greer seems like he is just amping up his next movie that will be 'ten times more this and better at that'.

I find it difficult to believe that Greer had just wrote the 'disclosure briefing at five AM that morning'. How extraordinary that he was approached by the two most powerful institutions in the world to draft what would become the most important words ever spoken or written in humanity? And then he is going to use his audience as test subjects for this briefing?

I really wish I could see what that letter said when he read it so I could think about and analyze it.

I know as a fact that this man has defiantly seen some s**t and probably been privy to a lot of information in his lifetime, I think most of his information here can be taken with a grain of salt.


I think a lot of these guys originally did have information to present. They really did have a reason to be talking. Then the fame and reputation and maybe money became the the goal and the "information" became a means to an end.

Well for an doctor in medicine, money was not a factor when he went into the UFO field. He lost probably a bunch of revenues when starting.

For others in the field, such as Corey Goode and others (Sathers, etc.) it is a dream come true, with their skills and training they were or would have been at the bottom or the average pay scale.

As for Greer, I must admit that I am puzzled about what he presents. Not for the content, some of us have read enough to understand the same, but for the way he organizes the information and the impact it may have.

Either he is paid to be part of disclosure and has been told to let it out, or he has turned around and decided to tell the truth while trying to avoid getting killed.

And for a reason I do not fully understand yet, and I may be wrong, I have a feeling he had enough and has decided to spill more of it.

[Kryztian]

Part II of Dr. Greer's 12th of May, 2018 presentation is now available on Youtube:
t_EPLW2Ctvo
Looking forward to seeing everyone's detailed thoughtful comments on this.

=== Added later ===

A brief outline of part II

For the first 45 minutes Greer stays on topic, talking about the different meanings of the word "alien" (extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, ghost, things created by the secret space programs, etc.)

Then he starts to talk about a Project Bluebeam type false flag event that may have been or may still be on the table. This event would be used to bring about a military fascist power around the world.

At 52:40 He mentions two fast tracked trajectories for disclosure. He then goes into the first one but never mentions what the second is.

This first stems out of the Elizondo Pentagon program. This scenario will eventually cover the alien phenomena and it will be shown as a threat. One faction wants to roll this out into an eschatological "end of the world" scenario. The person who holds the power and controls the technology to pull this off is claiming to be the return of Jesus Christ into this galaxy. There will be a weaponization of interdimensional portals.

Suddenly, he leaves this apocalyptic false flag scenario and starts an upbeat series of videos and photos of UFOs and contact experiences for 30 minutes and then ends with his speech he wrote for world leaders, on how he feels disclosure should be announced.

[Honesty]

See www.halturnerradioshow.com - aliens have no direct role in what is happening now, just an indirect role.

[justntime2learn]

See www.halturnerradioshow.com - aliens have no direct role in what is happening now, just an indirect role.

If true, interesting timing ...

[Kryztian]

Going back to Part I, there's a quote that no one here has yet commented on. Greer says that in a meeting of October 2017 (or he heard about the meeting last October) a woman stated, in a most ominous manner:


"O yes, the American people like to complain. Pretty soon, we're gonna really give them something to whine about."

Per Greer, the woman, possibly, is now CIA Director Gina Haspel.

For me, this shows that the war here, is primarily on consciousness, not on our bodies, our property. There is a lot of pollution in war, but mainly it is a corruption of ideas and facts, pollution in the realm of consciousness. If there is a false flag planned, my guess is that it will be one that will divide Americans (and the rest of the world) and get us all pointing the finger at each other: conservatives vs. liberals, christians vs. arabs, fundamentalists vs. new agers. All the fake events and scripted news stories so far may just be setup for this one event. And this event will not come to pass if we don't give it any energy by fearing that it will.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Well for an doctor in medicine, money was not a factor when he went into the UFO field. He lost probably a bunch of revenues when starting.


This is a very good point Flash! :) I have always been unclear about the details on why he left medicine-- perhaps he retired early? I understand the story Greer tells everyone, but, I have a suspicion that Greer has more to the story about why he stopped being a licensed physician. ;)



From the other video, "Sirius" he seems to building us up to accepting a false flag involving aliens, on a number of levels. So, he seems to be warning us this will be the next step taken by whoever or whatever is really running this world.

That coupled with Trump saying we need a Space Force and the ptb upping the anty to get more money and control, it seems they have nowhere to go but "up" so to speak in the whole false flag maneuver.



I think what you stated here is a logical conclusion to what we see happening. No "insiders" or secret sources needed. I for one am waiting for just one of these guys predictions of future events to actually happen. I know this won't be popular here but what actual difference have any of these UFO "experts" made with their secret sources and insider discoveries? Has anything changed for the better or worse due to their revelations, other than revealing government coverups? Are we any closer to the truth? I feel like if they have done anything, they have muddied the waters so it is near impossible to tell fact from fiction. On the other hand, if someone is listening for entertainment that is another thing. We will have better luck using our own intuitive skills, reason and logic to see the probabilities of future events. I, for one, won't be entering a bunker anytime soon based on his assessment.


Well said, Peter and Valerie- logically this does follow for me as well. I think the people that have risked a great deal to disclose their stories, and gained virtually nothing from sharing, are probably closer to the truth than the very vocal and well-defended hoaxers and hired actors. Let us also not forget "UFO Disease" :)

And on Valerie's point, there does seem to be a build-up within mainstream ufology of this notion of a threat, all coinciding with this unusual alternative political climate. I do wonder if this is a planned coincidence (inner strife expressed in people's predictions) vs the playing out of a secret agenda.

This situation with Greer is most curious and worth keeping an eyeball on.

[Foxie Loxie]

After listening to David Adair's relating of how Greer treated him after talking him into going to testify before Congress, I don't bother to follow his stuff anymore.

If anyone hasn't learned of how, David at age 17, was taken to Area 51 to examine an "alien" engine in 1972, you've missed a great story! It can be found here on Avalon! Amazing tale!! ;)

[Deux Corbeaux]

I don’t want to derail the thread too much, but I have to share this video of Joe from the Carolinas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhTlCiBLjw

Great app.
And I love your rosy glasses Joe :o

[snoman]

I had a contact experience in which I was warned that someone may make an attempt to "Blow up the planet"
[...]
Whether it is false flag or et, how could we know?


Well, blowing up the planet might be kind of self-defeating as a False Flag event. :)

Unless you are Vogon

[Bill Ryan]

Okay, back to topic here. :)


Part II of Dr. Greer's 12th of May, 2018 presentation is now available on Youtube:
t_EPLW2Ctvo
Looking forward to seeing everyone's detailed thoughtful comments on this.

=== Added later ===

A brief outline of part II

For the first 45 minutes Greer stays on topic, talking about the different meanings of the word "alien" (extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, ghost, things created by the secret space programs, etc.)

Then he starts to talk about a Project Bluebeam type false flag event that may have been or may still be on the table. This event would be used to bring about a military fascist power around the world.

At 52:40 He mentions two fast tracked trajectories for disclosure. He then goes into the first one but never mentions what the second is.

This first stems out of the Elizondo Pentagon program. This scenario will eventually cover the alien phenomena and it will be shown as a threat. One faction wants to roll this out into an eschatological "end of the world" scenario. The person who holds the power and controls the technology to pull this off is claiming to be the return of Jesus Christ into this galaxy. There will be a weaponization of interdimensional portals.

Suddenly, he leaves this apocalyptic false flag scenario and starts an upbeat series of videos and photos of UFOs and contact experiences for 30 minutes and then ends with his speech he wrote for world leaders, on how he feels disclosure should be announced.

Thanks, and I watched the long-awaited Part 2. Again, it's hard to understand why there was such a long delay in uploading it to YouTube.

My own comments:

1) I can't fault anything he presented in the first 45 mins, though implied (though not explicitly stated) in his presentation is that there don't seem to be any malevolent ETs. He offers a comprehensive presentation of different kinds of 'alien' phenomena, centered around this schema:

http://projectavalon.net/Steven_Greer_A_Framework_for_Understanding_'Alien'.gif

2) His description of a false flag event — which, again, he said had been 'authorized' — is between [approx] 45:00-60:00. He focuses on it at 53:30.

My understanding of this is that it'd be a weaponized opening of a portal (or an opening of a weaponized portal) to allow, or encourage, all hell to come through. (So to speak!) He stated several times that this technology has been fully operational for 50 years, since 1968.

We do know that the DIA is very interested in the Skinwalker Ranch, for instance (confirmed by Jeremy Corbell (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101587-JEREMY-CORBELL-Disclosure-SKINWALKER-more&p=1227560&viewfull=1#post1227560)), so it has to be plausible that the agencies have developed operational advanced technology in these areas. What remains unexplained (and Greer didn't refer to this in this Part 2) is how come a third of the world's population would die.

[OmeyocaN777]

Okay, back to topic here. :)

My understanding of this is that it'd be a weaponized opening of a portal (or an opening of a weaponized portal) to allow, or encourage, all hell to come through. (So to speak!) He stated several times that this technology has been fully operational for 50 years, since 1968.

We do know that the DIA is very interested in the Skinwalker Ranch, for instance (confirmed by Jeremy Corbell (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101587-JEREMY-CORBELL-Disclosure-SKINWALKER-more&p=1227560&viewfull=1#post1227560)), so it has to be plausible that the agencies have developed operational advanced technology in these areas. What remains unexplained (and Greer didn't refer to this in this Part 2) is how come a third of the world's population would die.

My theory
The key to this problem (weaponized portal) is frequency.
In order to open that portal, they need one specific frequency.
So we must found/make a machine that works exactly the opposite.
Like this orgone bubble that Mike Emery said it creates a non-polar field.
I don't know if this orgone bubble works, I intend to make one this month and see by myself the results.
But you get the point....a non-polar field (euphoria) that regenerates the orgone in the atmosphere will be the answer in many problems we have hopefully without any side effects.

[Magnus]

A transcript of part two, in part, please complete it if you feel an urge to do so, a read word give so much more than a spoken one.

"There's another group that is racing forward, and this group is headed by one of the four clans of the mormon corporate empire, but it's a breakaway group and this particular operation has reached full functionality on an antigravity interdimensional device, as of a few weeks ago. There is a part of the intelligence community that just had a meeting in cheyenne mountain between april 28:th and may 5:th to discuss this and to go, or no go, on disclosing that system as part of a disclosure. Here is the problem: Some of the people in that team want to present it as an eschatological end of the world system, because one of the things that happend in the lab out in salt lake city recently, was that when they hit a certain frequency knowing that this device, it's about the size of a basketball, when it was levitating and had free energy, but they hit a resonant frequency that tapped in to these other dimensions, but lower dimensions and all kinds of monsterous things started coming out, and they filmed it. Now, soon as this happened I was notified by these senior officials within the senior intelligence community, NSA and CIA, And they wanted.. they asked oddly for my cooperation in that type of disclosure, and I said yes, but that's not extra terrestrial, thats alien, I said I know you know better, and the public needs to know better, and by god that is why I did this workshop, even though my shoulder is killing me. So, I honestly.. you have to understand this has been authorized, this disclosure trajectory is authorized, now I am speaking about it at great peril, frankly at personal risk today, but you have to understand that if this rolls out the way they want to, they will try to present this as this end of the world return of christ sort of phenomenon, and here is the problem, it was confirmed to me that these portals into other dimensions, they have weaponized. Now, so the weaponization of this kind of technology is an absolute threat to the structure of space-time earth and humanity and that is in hance of a person who I learned is claiming to be the return of Christ for this galaxy and I'm quoting. The scariest god damn thing I've encountered in 28 years of doing this, and you ignore when I'm telling you your peril."

[Magnus]

"my shoulder is killing me"

"now I am speaking about it at great peril, frankly at personal risk today"

Greer has become a distraction to the real dangers facing humanity. I had higher hopes for him than this.

[Honesty]

Greer's mission was to lead and spoil the disclosure movement, just like he compromised two of the advanced energy projects I was directly involved with many years ago. Attempts on the lives of those two advanced evergy technology inventors all failed. :)

[Soullight]

Maybe the destruction has to do with CERN or the Lord of the Abyss, Abaddon.

As a side note, one thing curious about some of the cryptid researchers is that sometimes they feel humanity is being reckoned by these Bigfoot, Dogmen creatures. That they usually don’t kill people as if they are under some law to not harm us yet. Maybe they are waiting on Abaddon. I have heard that something like 1/4 of earth would be destroyed by beast from the pit and mens hearts would fail them from fear of these beast.

[hermit]

I'm struggling to glean any benefit to anyone from this.
When all the rivers have dried up
And all the forests have been uprooted
Only then will humanity understand
You can't eat information.
Eh hem.

Well for one, people (at least here) are now talking about Dr. Greer.

And his movie(s)...

That's marketing right?

[Magnus]

Transcript of Greers "5:00AM" e.t. disclosure draft (https://youtu.be/t_EPLW2Ctvo?t=1h30m16s) for world leaders, for the record, in case any future need for reference would arise:

"My fellow Americans, my fellow Russians. (or you can fill in the blanks)

My fellow citizens of the world, it has come to our attention that extra terrestrial civilizations of great technological advancement have been visiting earth for some time, While their presence likely date from very ancient times, the modern era since world war two has seen a large increase in sightings and interactions with these advanced lifeforms and their spacecraft. It must be emphasized that they appear to pose no threat to humanity and earth, but instead are quite concerned about our own unchecked warmaking capabilities and violence, combined with our early attempts at the exploration of space. Since the dawn of the nuclear era, these extraterrestrial civilizations have made concerted efforts to do reconnaissance at all known space and nuclear facilities, and in some cases these facilities have been penetrated by e.t. craft and our nuclear missiles rendered inoperable, such incursions appear designed to warn us not to use these world destroying nuclear weapons, and are not acts of hostility. They also appear concerned with the rapid decay of our environment and biosphere and the extinction of many species on earth. Since world war two there have been extremely secretive projects studying the energy, communication and propulsion systems of these extraterrestrial spacecraft. It is time for us to disclose these momentous scientific findings to you. These technologies have the potential, if used only for peaceful purposes, to give us a new and sustainable civilization on earth, free of poverty and pollution, within a generation. However, if used for destructive and violent purposes, the same technologies could end our civilization. For these and other reasons, the strictest secrecy has surrounded the study of these extra terrestrial technologies, but the time has arrived for the truth to be known. We are not alone in the universe and it is time for humanity to become a mature peaceful civilization and take its place in the cosmos with other advanced peoples from other star systems. To this end, I call on the world community, other world leaders, and all the people of the earth, to come together and begin this new era on earth. We must make open peaceful contact, and initiate diplomatic ties to each of these civilizations. We must do this as children of the earth and not just one nation. All nations and people of earth must be represented and empowered in this process. We must commit to keeping all weapons out of space, and going only into space for peaceful purposes that benefit all of humanity, we must bring forth these advanced energy and propulsion technologies, so that the worlds environment and people benefit. We must all agree to never allow these new technologies to be used as weapons of war, and we must commit amongst ourselves that if any nation, or group, attempts to use these technologies for violent or destructive purposes, every nation and people on earth will rise up to immediately stop it. We face a choice, if we do nothing, our environment and civilization will degrade, and we may face extinction. If we use this new knowledge and science for war and destruction, we will also surely perish, but if we establish a world of peace, humanity can now advance as a civilization that is sustainable, just and worthy of exploring the universe. This is the singular and great challenge of our generation, to establish world peace and to create a new sustainable civilization on earth. Once we have achieved this foundation of peace and justice, we have learned that these other civilizations will welcome us into the cosmos with open arms and hearts. So, my fellow citizens of earth, let us work together, to achieve the destiny of humanity, an enlightened peaceful world that joins her place among the other peoples of the cosmos, for this is the only possible good future for humanity. It is time for us to unite as a people and create that good future, now!"

[Kryztian]

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I light of recent events, I think this thread deserves a second look.

Was Steven Greer, two years ago, talking about a series of false flag event which begins with the quarantine as a reaction to COVID-19? He was discussing a meeting which occurred in October of 2017 with Mike Pompeo, then CIA director, and quite possibly Gina Haspel, the future CIA director who ominously said: "O yes, the American people like to complain. Pretty soon, we're gonna really give them something to whine about."

If so, I am guess that the Plandemic/Lockdown is just the first fake/managed event designed to trigger a wide range of human emotions.

In addition to "Anglo-Saxon" Mission, this testimony by Greer might be the next best piece of evidence that COVID-19 is the first of a series of planned events.


Hello, Everyone: do please critique this carefully, and comment intelligently. I welcome all views.

It may be nothing, or it may be something. The presentation (on 12 May, 2018, over 11 weeks ago) was only published yesterday. The promised Part 2, a continuation of the same presentation after a 15 minute break, doesn't seem to be on the net.

It's about far more than his claimed (and admittedly very well-argued) case for a cover-up of the well-known little Atacama being that featured in the documentary Sirius.

Greer goes on to dismantle Tom Delonge's To The Stars Academy (TTSA). Everything he states about them is very credible, in my opinion, and is very well worth listening to.

Then, just after the hour mark, Greer suddenly starts presenting new information about a major planned false flag event. This is what I've started this thread to discuss. I've made some timestamp notes, which I'll post below the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEht3iVnf2Q

1:00:45: He refers to an 'extinction level event' that he says he's been briefed on in the last month (i.e. April 2018), that we've not got much time, that’s it’s “been approved”, and then he comes to a full halt and appears to change the subject. It seemed likely to be real. I don't think he's that good an actor.

1:01:06: He says: "We have little time."

1:08:30: He refers to an "apocalyptic event" that's been "greenlighted and approved". Then he comes to a halt again.

1:13:30: He refers to his concern that the group (meaning TTSA and those behind them, strongly selling the idea of an alien 'threat') will try to "accelerate the false flag".

1:16:35: He mentions "the weaponization of interdimensional portals".

1:24:20: He implies he's provided an extensive brief for Trump on UFOs, when he was nominated. And he suggests he's indirectly provided information for Putin.

1:32:04: He says he's been asked by someone with close ties to the Kremlin AND someone with close ties to the US National Security State and the President — two people who don’t even know each other — to write "an announcement speech" for them. (He says he'll read his draft to the audience later that evening.) He asked them why, and they each said because “it’s been authorized”.

1:34:30: He says the plan is for us to "sink into the worst catastrophe in recorded human history."

1:35:24: He says: "There's about 5 billion of the 7.5 billion lives hanging in the balance." Then he says: “That’s an accurate number.”

Then there's a 15 minute break, followed by two more hours. But as best I know, that's not been published.

***

Again, the above just came out yesterday, on his Sirius Disclosure (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC6B4Y0oFACv9QBlf0ebBcg) channel. I only realized this half way through, when I was wondering how the h*** I'd never heard about any of this at all. :)

As many reading this will know, I'm no fan of Steven Greer, and have been a very strident critic of his for several years. There are other threads about this. But here, there's not a single thing he says that I know about, or can check, that I'd disagree with. It's actually understated, measured, calm, undramatic and precise.

His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!), and all I can say is that this got my strong attention.

I do NOT know why this was only published 11 weeks later, or why there's no sign yet of the potentially very important promised Part 2.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump: :bump2: :bump: :bump2: :bump: :bump2: :bump:

In light of recent events, I think this thread deserves a second look.

Thanks, and absolutely yes. In this more recent (21 March 2020) video, Greer focuses largely on collective meditation to handle the serious current problem.

But from about 21:50, he says he consulted with a contact of his in military biowarfare about the virus, and was told that "there are two, possibly three, strains circulating".

About 10 mins later, he's asked a question about origins of the virus. He's extremely cagey, saying that if he revealed everything he knew about this he'd be "banned from YouTube".

He's very clearly implying he knows, or has been told, that it's a bioweapon.

At 55:00 he again says he'll "not speak about the origins of the virus on this platform".

At 1:04:30, he says (very carefully!): "Whether this is a crisis that's completely natural, or partially natural and partially augmented, doesn't matter."
(His stance is that we just have to make the best of "the hand of cards we've been dealt".)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbMNE0eZwk

[gini]

This was posted in april on another thread,Dr Klinghardt speaking about 2 main strains:one wich is very contagious ,wide spread but not so lethal,and another strain less contagious not wide spread but very dangerous when you catch it at 9.00
Then he states that if you are infected by the not so dangerous one,you are probably immune for the aggressive one.
He also says in the beginning that he must be careful to say too much about it for getting not banned or ...http://www.sophiaeducate.com/virus-updates-dr-dietrich-klinghardt/

[Bill Ryan]

Steven Greer was just interviewed by Patrick Bet-David (a very smart, semi-mainstream guy with a huge following), here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKT2z5HiDU
Most of this is about UFOs, a very good interview posted in this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111044-Classified-Alien-Encounters-Revealed--important-Steven-Greer-interview-) for discussion.

But at 1:25:25, near the end, Bet-David asks him what may be the greatest threat in the future.

Greer answers that "it may be unfolding right now", and states on record that he has contacts at Fort Detrick who confirmed to him that the virus is bioengineered.

(I guess he can say this because it's not his own YouTube channel, which is what he said stopped him from saying more in his own 21 March presentation — see above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103720-Steven-Greer--2019--on-an-imminent-catastrophic-false-flag-event&p=1356943&viewfull=1#post1356943).)

He goes on to state that his military contacts told him that the virus was "on their radar" in December 2019.

At 1:31:34 Bet-David asks: "Is there an element of Project Mockingbird taking place here?" (The CIA control of the press?) Greer immediately answers: "100%."

[DaveToo]

I just watched a few minutes of one of his videos. The three-strain video.
He sounds very much to be pro-tester and pro-vaccine.

[Luke Holiday]

Steven Greer was just interviewed by Patrick Bet-David (a very smart, semi-mainstream guy with a huge following), here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKT2z5HiDU
Most of this is about UFOs, a very good interview posted in this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111044-Classified-Alien-Encounters-Revealed--important-Steven-Greer-interview-) for discussion.

But at 1:25:25, near the end, Bet-David asks him what may be the greatest threat in the future.

Greer answers that "it may be unfolding right now", and states on record that he has contacts at Fort Detrick who confirmed to him that the virus is bioengineered.

(I guess he can say this because it's not his own YouTube channel, which is what he said stopped him from saying more in his own 21 March presentation — see above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103720-Steven-Greer--2019--on-an-imminent-catastrophic-false-flag-event&p=1356943&viewfull=1#post1356943).)

He goes on to state that his military contacts told him that the virus was "on their radar" in December 2019.

At 1:31:34 Bet-David asks: "Is there an element of Project Mockingbird taking place here?" (The CIA control of the press?) Greer immediately answers: "100%."

Just some quick comments on this great interview:

1. I did a double take when Dr Greer was asked to provide one word answers to famous individuals in politics, media, and the UFO community and the only one he said "pass" to was Hillary Clinton.

2. Dr, Greer was hypercritical of the CDC's handling of the CV in the U.S. and stated that he would have implemented immediate all- inclusive testing along with contact tracing back in January with strict quarantine for all those individuals testing positive along with city wide quarentines where concentrations were shown to be high. Sounds like he is on The Bill Gates payroll

The idea may sound Politically Correct but would have been impossible to implement - from a logistic perspective alone - not to mention the unconstitionality of forced testing/contact tracing/quarentining healthy Americans, - especially when considering the weak lethality stats of the symptom complex being labeled as CV 19.

Also, as I have mentioned on prior posts: This would be unacceptably ergregious using the current unproven, unreliable and invalid testing methods which have yet to prove that a CV 19 virus exists.

In hindsight, and what Gerald Celente, Jon Rappoport and I am sure others were saying all along: the best way to handle the alleged crisis would have been to quarantine the small population that was most at risk - the elderly with co morbities, and others with compromised immune systems - and leave the country open via Sweden, Japan etc.. This should not be forgotten if a second wave should occur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPjwmrodGMU Bill Ryan please listen to the first five minutes...

4. He adroitly sidestepped the Vaccine question

5. Dr Greer is an incredible ambassador for this genre and in terms of overall knowledge, intellect and articulation ability he may be unmatched. The fact that he discusses being in close contact with world leaders and states that eugenicist Prince Charles requests his opinions is cause for suspicion.

I thoroughly enjoyed this interview - despite the intermittent bouts of unsophistication/amateurishness by the interviewer.

6. I did find his quote of being able to Bench Press 400 lbs at the age of 65 most unfortunate from a credibility standpoint (If you are going to lie/exaggerate on something as benign as this - then what else might you be tempted to confabulate).


Blessings Luke

[Agape]

Dr Greer is on his bigger humanitarian mission, did so much work for the Disclosure Project no one can see or ever appreciate and I love and respect him for that.

However: on the medical fronts, people like him are missing in action but also not one of them has ever bothered with truth speaking with respect to the current pandemics and it’s cumulative, years lasting CAUSES that have to do with this excessive, shared microbiome in animals and humans on Planet Earth( when you have heard years ago some ET statement about this planet being “quarantined” this is precisely one of the reasons for it), steps to be taken to disinfect, clean and purify so that the current human society can ever return to the state of sanity, both physical and mental, without wearing face masks.

So much needs to be taught to these “average humans” as if they were toddlers , some refuse to wash hands because some alternative guru who lived at fire camp 50 years ago still clean suggested it’s better not to do. Some refuse to shower daily( too much water too much harm), some don’t wash hair. The rest of them will : on the other hand paste and cream anything on their bodies to make it feel “more beautiful”. :)

Where is the original ? So much food stuff is being used and wasted and recombined, almost anything from the wild life has been tested and eaten by humans producing whole new version of a civilisation “moss man” who feel the happiest to be satiated with “Gaia biosphere”.

I’ve not heard anyone else than me having a say on those matters in public for years now, guess why ? Only for the fear of being disliked.

So we are dealing with toddler mentalities here of people who will insist on hurting themselves and each other because it feels “natural” , keep experiencing every situation on the planet as juvenile revolt and conspiracy theory of their mother who kept it all good for them.

That’s where most of the “true” conspiracy theory comes from anyway.


Perhaps( tongue in cheek) the current pandemics situation is a way out, there’s small chance we could reset our wild habits, needs and manners to something more civil, sustainable and life friendly and humanity can become part of the larger galactic community or we will keep revolting and rejecting the option
for being a better cavemen and roughies.
In which case even the most benevolent ET friends will take a break that is evacuate most of their emissaries in order to prevent another cosmic holocaust.

So much has been learned by everybody. But there are very few signs of improvement ! Sure there is always a hope and the hope hasn’t been quite given up yet.

But it can’t all last forever, sorry to note this down



🙏🌟🙏

[Bill Ryan]

Now on with Alex Jones, something I never thought could or would ever happen. Interview date was 12 May 2020, 11 days ago.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5ebb2696244ac5001d21bbfe

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[AutumnW]

I did find his quote of being able to Bench Press 400 lbs at the age of 65 most unfortunate from a credibility standpoint (If you are going to lie/exaggerate on something as benign as this - then what else might you be tempted to confabulate).

How true. He has an interesting approach and is a highly intelligent man, but I take some of what he says with a grain of salt.

His contacts in Fort Detrick, for example, if they were insiders they would have top secret security clearances that they would have to maintain. To break those clearances would be fraught with problems for them, including jail time. However, he may have contacts in Fort Detrick, who are more familiar with the biowarfare programmes, though not directly involved who are giving him their best bets about what is going on.

I appreciate his take on prevention of contagion from a public health perspective. As far as the vaccine goes, like a lot of people, he is probably in a "wait and see" mode. Thanks for your thoughts, Luke. They are appreciated.

[Kryztian]

The latest from Steven Greer. In a nutshell: a false flag "Bluebeam" type event is imminent.

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[Gracy]

The latest from Steven Greer. In a nutshell: a false flag "Bluebeam" type event is imminent.

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Well, all I know is it's going on three years now since him sending out the Bluebeam red alert that served to initiate this thread. Now he's throwing out the red flag again. He seems to leave himself a handy, Wilcock type of out, in that the only way to prevent this is to publicize his urgent information as fast as possible. Similar to the always just around the corner mass arrests, there's always a good reason why it didn't happen, again...

When it doesn't happen soon, the word got out enough so that it delayed their plans, leaving the alien false flag toy ready to pick up and play with again when the time is right.

Publicizing his prediction far and wide is not only the out IMO, but it's direct publicity for him as well, and I think that's in play here.

Sorry, but I've lost patience with this sort of thing. Lots of people talking and predicting out there, with very little to show for it except for lots of likes and subscribes.

[Hym]

...In me best cocknee acksint..

To be quite honest wiff ya.
It's all bean a bit ove a laff fer me,

Wots wiff ole uv 'dis silly stoff frum Stevie O' Greer,
Goin' ole See-mee-own parkz own us?

Roght den...Easy enuff fer 'im ta say,
Be'in da massiv bloke ee iz,
Talkin' bout peacefoll crih-uz frum uv-uh dye men shunz.
Ov corse, Day iz peacefoll.

Ow menny li'll grey bugguz or gonna
Probe 'iz innuh die un-menshun-ables
Whuh wiff stair oye dull Stevie O
Loo 'in back atcha?

Con track shill play'uz
Or ohn 'da no probe list.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If a false alien invasion actually happened, I'll swim to Ecuador and eat Bill's hat.

Not that there might have been, or even still is, a fleet of alien reproduction vehicles and a plan for this to happen, it's simply that in "the grand scheme" of sandbox/experiment earth, horrific acts of this nature are against the rules. I believe there are forces, ET or otherwise, that protect earth and its people from mass murder/destruction. See the testimony of military personnel of UFOs messing with nuclear missile tests, shutting silos down etc. It's basically a message. "We won't allow this to happen".

There is a line in the sand, the powers that be are not allowed to cross it. If bluebeam was real, and really put into action, I strongly suspect it would be stopped one way or another. It may have already happened and been stopped (but we'd never hear about it). Maybe there's a plan b or more than one. Perhaps 9/11 was one such. Who knows.

Just my 2 cents.

[Bill Ryan]

Infowars now has a 5 minute special report on this, published today.


Warning! The Fake Alien Invasion Threat is Real!
https://banned.video/watch?id=60819701cc69f3017f9bf6d2 (https://banned.video/watch?id=60819701cc69f3017f9bf6d2)

[Bill Ryan]

Interestingly, Daniel Liszt is also now stating he thinks the 'Alien Invasion false flag' event may be an imminent reality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61_RRMJmJg

[Agape]

Pardon my interference...

and I’m serious when I ask “how does the current Covid pandemic remind you of “alien false flag event” ?
To me it sort of does, from its day one. Now it’s not called an “alien attack” but due to the uncertainty of its origins and its splendid modus operandi around the globe,
it would pass most simple criteria for “alien event”, true or fake.

Hear you humanity is crying fake so it must be that one 😅🙏

[onawah]

Possibly it's something of an ED (extra-dimensional) attack (assuming that means non-physical), but it's difficult from a 3D perspective to define the difference.
From what I've read from various sources (which may or may not be credible) earth is moving from 3D to a more 4D frequency, but there are many 4D entities who do not want us in that space.
Theoretically, they can take possession of human minds and further 4D dimensional beings' agendas through those human bodies.
(Via "possession", or perhaps they can actually incarnate into human bodies, though not really human in essence. ).
Which accounts in part for the very inhumane agendas of the Illuminati, etc.
On the other hand, it makes perfect sense that there would be regressive ETs in physical bodies who would like to annex this planet, and get rid of most of, if not all humans in the process.
If that is the case, I think there's not much hope for us, unless there are ETs who want to prevent that from happening,
Which apparently there are, but perhaps not in enough force to really do much to prevent it.
...Or only willing to prevent a limited amount of the ongoing damage to the human race.
The difference being that it's up to us to make that evolutionary journey to 4D.
Though probably some assistance can be lent from benevolent ETs without karmic consequences to the lenders.
Whereas aggression from other races used to acquire the planet is karmically impermissible, and therefore permissible for other, benevolent ETs, to intervene.
If that makes any sense.
And it seems like it may be some of all of that going on at once, which definitely makes for a confusing and chaotic journey right now for earthlings.

[Agape]

This planet and live entities consciousness here may exist in 12( or even 24) dimensions simultaneously- and they dimensions aren’t really going anywhere,
such assumptions really relate to “collective human awareness” transiting or evolving to embrace more advanced dimensional platforms
while some operate in higher dimensions naturally by virtue of their birth or activity /or both,
the same can’t be said about the majority of “little human consciousnesses”.

From physical perspective - 4D is very “unstable” dimension and without reliance on higher abstract dimensions it can’t hold “by itself” for very long time,
it simply is a time unfolding quality of space transformation with all its causes and consequences.


The beauty of the critter ( Covid 19) is in the metaphor ,
if you seek for a substance , either it can’t be found or it’s found mutating :)

It’s invisible no-thing that efficiently closed most of our borders, air traffic, schools and other operations for more than a year now :)

It is truth in plain sight whose origins can not be determined.


Understanding epidemiological situation of this planet it does not surprise me the least that’s why I do not really engage in any theories or assumptions about its origin

but it fits the modus operandi of any successful false flag operation already.

[Sunny]

If there is an alien false flag, it will ignore that there is already alien involvement in our wars, our weather modification and wildfires. There is already an invisible war that no one talks about.

[onawah]

New warnings from Steven Greer

DR STEVEN GREER: “YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING…” PREPARE NOW!
September 27, 2023
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dr-steven-greer-you-have-no-idea-what-they-are-doing-prepare-now/

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"TRANSCRIPT

"Dr Steven Greer: There are military and law enforcement people who are quite fed up with this illegal-run operation that’s treasonous. I mean I’ll just be flat-out, put it out there: They are committing treason against the United States.

When I tell you that this group are a bunch of sociopaths and psychopaths capable of this, people need to believe it and not let those guys get away with their agenda, because this is a 70-year, long-term plan that they’re coming to head, now – and you can be executed for that, as you know, by Federal Law.

I think there are certain people who are not going to sit on their hands if the Congress just dithers for another two, three, four years, because, from a law enforcement point of view, we’ve been able to prove that these operations are already criminal enterprises – and by the way, anyone who’s listening, who is an attorney: we’re starting our own legal fund to sue all these corporations for these technologies under the civilian RICO provision, Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations – it’s been used against the mafia.

I always point out to people this organization is the world’s largest and deadliest mafia, so you can invoke that RICO Act, that was passed in 1970 as a civilian organization, which is what we’re about to do and there’s a US attorney on our team, a federal prosecutor, that when we go to discovery and get evidence, we’ll turn over to him. He can do a criminal prosecution at that point, so we’re not going to sit on our hands.

Now, we’re encouraging Congress to move quickly, but in the meanwhile, I can tell you there are things afoot that are going to go more quickly…

Listen, everyone writing, sitting here, listening should write to your Member of Congress and your two Senators, whatever state you’re from and encourage them to pass these laws protecting the witnesses and to hold open hearings, because I don’t think we need to continue this process, like at the this last small hearing with the three guys, where Grusch said, “Oh, I can’t talk about that. I have to be in a SCIF,” which is a Secure Compartmented Information Facility, Top Secret facility.

No! Because the these projects should not be afforded any National Security protection, since they are being run illegally. I think we should take a much more aggressive stand towards fully-open hearings on this, which we’ve been calling for for 30 years.

But I think your listeners have more power than they realize, if they were to write their member Congress, their representative in the House and their two Senators, because they need to hear from the people. They need to hear that the people care about this issue.

The most dangerous is their capabilities to A), stage a alien invasion that would convince everyone that’s false and B), things that they can do geophysically.

What I mean by that is I have a NOC, a Non-Official Cover guy who’s Deep Cover, currently in the system that described this illegal covert group, were able to move an asteroid on a trajectory coming from the Sun to skim over the Atlantic Ocean and Pacific cause massive tidal waves and destruction, deliberately – and an ET craft intercepted that and saved our bacon.

Now, I also know that they have systems that they can put on fault lines off the coasts of various land masses, like California and elsewhere and they can trigger those and those can cause massive earthquakes and tsunamis.

When I tell you that this group are a bunch of sociopaths and psychopaths capable of this, people need to believe it and not let those guys get away with their agenda, because this is a 70-year, long-term plan that they’re coming to a head, now is a true threat to humans.

So, those two areas are the most disturbing things I have discovered about this organization; what their plans are and what their capabilities are – and these aren’t theoretical capabilities, these are actual ones.

So, to have an organization that’s not being overseen by the People or by Congress or the White House, that have those sort of technologies and that kind of malicious intent, we’re talking an existential threat to humanity and to our country and that’s why, you know, I left my medical career a few years ago to fix this.

Because, once I learned what was really happening I was ready to walk away from, you know, whatever it is is, you know four $500,000, $600,000 a year as a doctor to fix this problem. And I don’t get paid, by the way. Everything we do with this is pro bono or we’re sort of a philanthropic group. We’re supported by donations.

And you know these films, by the way, you know, how we crowdfunded them, the biggest crowdfunded documentaries in history, have all been the ones we’ve done on this and you can see all of them, like all three of them. Now, the ‘Lost Century’ –

Interviewer: How much have you crowdfunded?

Dr Steven Greer: Well, this last one, I think we raised a little over $700,000 to do the ‘Lost Century’ and and get it out. But see, I mean, we don’t have a marketing budget, so the only way we can actually get the word out is folks like you sending out to your fans, the base and influencers and I know that people like Chris Brown and Demi Lovato and and Sully Arnav, Godsmack and others have helped get the word out through their fan base.

So, a lot of it is having influencers help us get the word out – and I thank you for that – so the illegal secret government used these in clandestine operations; drug-running, human trafficking, staging false events, like abductions, so people think the aliens are a threat.

And, in some cases, just normal operational use and testing and development but…if you were to contact the senior folks at the Pentagon, one of the comments that Admiral Wilson said and also, the man I briefed, who was the head of the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency – a three-star general, Hughes – he said, “Look, we can’t get any information on this but the problem is, the best thing I have is a B2 Stealth Bomber and this secret government group have things that can do circles around it.”

So, they said, “What are we going to do?” I said, “Well, you have to get these under control.”

Now, this is what I’ve been saying to everyone, from the CIA director for Bill Clinton in ’93 all the way through the ’90s and I’m still saying it to members of Congress.

The good news is is that the Amnesty Bill, if it passes, which, after a six-month period, all those operations would be considered criminal. Then, you could put law enforcement in place that goes in and gets, seizes these craft and technologies – and the bodies.

Well, because they’re wise enough to know that if they were to do such a thing, it would create panic and would also be portrayed by the Spinmeisters as an “alien invasion”. See, it’s a Catch-22.

If they were to do what you’re suggesting, the public has already been brainwashed about there being a threat from aliens, which is completely not true. But you bring up a very good point and this is one of the things I had this conversation with these members of Congress about in the last few months, is that any civilizations – that is, thousands, to hundreds-of-thousands of years more advance than we are – if they were hostile, they would just shut this whole enterprise down – it would take a fraction of a second.

So, this is a proof that they’re not hostile. They’re also very patient and they don’t want to do something that plays into this false narrative of this illegal, secret government group.

Because let’s say they were to do what you’re saying and they come in and they liberate assets or people or they shut down our capabilities to target them, that would be portrayed as an “alien invasion”, which is exactly what they’re trying to avoid – and that’s exactly what everyone in the public has been – and also I hate to say some people in the government have been brainwashed about.

Like, when Mr Grusch started talking about this event where aliens were shooting up and killing the villagers in Brazil. Well, he didn’t know that that was a a CIA clandestine operation, using our own man-made craft and it was 100% being done by humans.

So why wouldn’t he know that? Because he’s a young guy who wasn’t read into that. He wasn’t briefed into that part of it, he just heard the story.

So, this gets into this whole question of a little bit of knowledge on this is an extremely dangerous thing, but to pack all of this is very complex; to go through all the evidence the cases, the science, the Top Secret – I mean, look, most people can’t get their minds around the 70 or so Top Secret whistleblowers we have up on our YouTube channel – never mind the other 700. So, it’s a big, it’s a very heavy-lift, right? But it needs to happen and at least the process has begun.

But the ETs are way too smart. If I look, with my meager IQ, if I have figured out what the consequences would be of them doing what you just suggested and just coming in and taking their assets back or landing or exposing themselves massively to the whole planet, they know, like I do, that that would be immediately spun by the Spinmeisters and the Liars as some kind of attack and Alien Invasion, and and I think they’re just way too evolved, socially and spiritually and intellectually to to fall into that trap, because if I figured this out I’m sure they have.

But I think the other part of it is, that – I think it you know this a very good question that comes up a lot: “Why don’t they go ahead and do it and just fix this mess?”

I go, “Well, everybody heard of Afghanistan? 20-some years in Afghanistan? So we go in there, I know a lot of Special Forces and Green Beret people who are over there and we go in there we think we’re going to impose Jeffersonian Democracy on a country run by warlords, right? Opium-trading warlords.

And 20-some years later, we didn’t make any more progress than we had before we went in. We left in a debacle a year ago – and now it’s back to warlords!

So, you cannot externally impose evolution. It has to be organic. So, I think the ETs are wise enough to see this and and know that humans have to evolve socially and economically, politically, spiritually – whatever – by learning.

Now, it doesn’t mean they just sit back and let us do everything.

And one of my concerns is – and this is something not being talked about enough – is that, if you have technologies that are being reverse-engineered and studied for 75-80 years, since the ’40s, and you reach a certain point, where your your human technologies get close to what the ETs have and we become a threat to them, out of self-defense, they may have to intervene and that is a worst-case-scenario.

And I flat-out have said that to members of Congress: we are running out of time to do this little do-si-do dance of kindergarten-level of studying this issue – and they would not do it out of hostility but they would do it out of self-defense – but most people don’t know this.

I mean, if you if I know of 122 cases where we’ve knocked their spacecraft down, we also have weapon systems on satellites out there, in space, that have targeted these extraterrestrial assets craft.

At a certain point, if our technology get good enough and there’s scalar, which means they could go beyond the speed of light and go to another star system – not the craft but the energy weapon – then, we become a true threat to other worlds.

So, my view of it is, that if people want to know what the problem is in this corner of the universe, go look in the God-damned mirror. I mean, it’s what humans are doing. It’s like that Michael Jackson song, you know, ‘Man in the Mirror’.

But you know, it’s like we need to look at that and and say, “What are we doing?” but the problem is, most of the American public – and I would say most of the Congress – still don’t know that we have the technologies to be that kind of threat out there; these covert, human, illegal projects.

So, letting a group like that wander around doing anything they want in defiance of the law, with no oversight by the People and no oversight from the Congress, the people’s Representatives – that is a true threat.

So when people say, “Are the UAPs a threat?” I go, “Not the ones from off-planet but the ones that are here, that we’re making – yes, that is the biggest threat to our National Security – way bigger than China, Russia or Iran.” "

[DNA]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18i8MLxAvy/

So this is a snipett from Ian Carrol a co-host on the Candace Owens show.

He is showing a clip from the Danny Jones show implicating Steven Greer as a Israeli asset.

[onawah]

Steven Greer's Link to Israel: UFO Double Agent?

Steven Greer's Link to Israel: UFO Double Agent? | Brent Stone on the Danny Jones Podcast
Forbidden.News
Jun 01, 2025
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/steven-greers-link-to-israel-ufo?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1658626&post_id=164967637&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

(More pieces to the puzzle surrounding Steven Greer. Stone and Jones are not very well informed on the subject. Alexandra Bruce apparently is better informed, but lots of questions still remain. Greer made a great contribution with the Disclosure Project but later on his reputation was besmirched by his own staff around the time crude photos of him partially nude appeared on a gay dating site. He went quiet for a while, but later still his work came into question with all his claims that there was no such thing as regressive aliens. Now even more questions are added to the list. )

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VIDEO: "Steven Greer’s Link to Israel: UFO Double Agent? | Brent Stone on the Danny Jones Podcast" - Pub. June 1, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
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"STONE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE HOW DIFFERENT THE RECENT PRESENT IS FROM THE WAY THINGS USED TO BE, IN SOME PART, DUE TO THE WORK OF DR GREER

During the strange post-election drone episode last December, Dr Steven Greer claimed that a group of “Defectors” of Unacknowledged Special Access Programs will be coming forward within the next 30 days.

He stated that Special Operations personnel who had spent their careers reverse-engineering UFOs in underground bases would come forward and that what would ensue would be what he called the “Battle for Disclosure”, the title of a new film he’d just released.

Dr Greer claimed that if the Deep State had its way, this Disclosure event would trigger a reaction from the global bureaucracy that would be “1,000 times worse than COVID”, as far as the fear, the panic, the market crashes, the economic devastation and the uncharted manipulation of humanity.

It sounded like the long-foretold John Podesta-led Project Bluebeam Fake Alien Invasion, potentially to prevent Donald Trump from being sworn-in, using advanced ELF psychotronic weapons and a 3D laser hologram technology called FIRESIGN.

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Dr Greer told Blake Cousins that if that “We, the People” could expose this fear-based PSYOP for the Big Lie that it is, then we could move into a new “Golden Age” of Enlightenment on Earth.

But the Fake Alien Invasion did not get rolled-out and the drones have since been mothballed and memory-holed.

This led Brent Stone of MuseumofTarot.org to go on the Danny Jones podcast a couple of weeks ago to call BS and to drop bombs on everything about Dr Steven Greer, saying that he appears to have gotten his start as a Mossad asset and that he’s been “shilling” for Laurance Rockefeller’s UFO information operation ever since. He even doubted that Dr Greer had time to complete his medical residency!

I think Stone went way too far when he said, “He’s never produced anything of actual worth.” That’s not only abusive, it’s inaccurate. I think Dr Greer did very important work, recording the ‘Witness Testimonies’ series.

Stone did dig up some legitimate details that add substance to concerns and rumors around Dr Greer that have swirled for years, that I’ll get into.

I’ll start by saying that I’ve been following Dr Greer since May 2001, with the online videos of the Disclosure Project, a watershed moment for Ufology, in which dozens of military personnel violated their secrecy oaths to describe their UFO experiences.

As somebody who’d seen a lot of UFOs growing up and who’d been ridiculed for talking about it, I felt vindicated by the 2001 Disclosure Project event and I was very grateful for the bravery of those who came forward.

Actually, I had seen so many UFOs by the mid-1990s, that I contacted Dr John Mack, the Chairman of Harvard University’s Psychiatry Department to see if we might not find some repressed memories of my being an alien abductee.

He was doing a study on abductions in countries outside the US, to see what effects a different cultural lens may have on the experience. He took my case, because I’d had a major sighting in Brazil with my neighbor when I was 14, after my family had moved there and because I had potential evidence of “missing time”.

So, I went to Cambridge, Massachusetts on two occasions and and I was hypnotically “regressed” during the second visit but we found nothing.

I don’t think I’m hypnotizable but do I think Dr Mack was sincere. He complained to me about Budd Hopkins who he thought was pushing an agenda.

Dr Mack was pilloried by Harvard, due to the nature of his investigation but he was eventually cleared of any potential ethics violations.

Brent Stone says, “I’ve done a lot of research on Steven Greer.” Well, I’ve had firsthand experiences with three people funded by Laurance Rockefeller over the course of 30 years.

People familiar with my writing know that I’m not a Rockefeller Family apologist, in the least. I think the Rockefeller Foundation and its affiliates are the main group responsible for the COVID genocide. I think they’re behind Henry Kissinger, the World Economic Forum and the horrors of the Bush, Clinton, Obama and Biden Dynasties.

I am no fan of the Rockefeller Foundation but if you look into the causes funded by Laurance, he does not seem to have been malevolent. Sometimes, things aren’t as cut-and-dried as we would like for them to be. I don’t know.

Over the years, I’ve run dozens of Dr Greer’s videos and I’ve promoted his films on my website. I’ve attended a few of his live events, where he engages his audience with Buddhist-styled invocations to summon UFOs for a CE-5 (Close Encounter of the 5th Kind) that he calls “Puja ceremonies” and I’ve been on Dr Greer’s email list for over a decade.

So, I’m quite familiar with Dr Greer’s messaging. He frequently refers to his wife of now 45+ years, who he says is Jewish. He refers to their four daughters and to their expensive post-graduate educations and to the joys of being a grandfather.

Having said all of this, not once have I ever heard Dr Greer say anything about the Bahá’í faith. Now, we learn that he and his wife were married at the Bahá’í World Centre in Haifa, Israel, while he was “Employed in the information processing department,” according to their wedding announcement in the Charlotte Observer.

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The Candace Owens Show

This 1993 Charlotte Observer obituary of his sister does not refer to him as a “doctor”, although his bio suggests he was in medical practice at the time, through 1998 but the omission of “Dr.” may be irrelevant.

His Wikipedia article states that he received “an M.D. degree from the James H. Quillen College of Medicine of East Tennessee State University in 1987[4]…[and] his Virginia medical license in 1989, and worked as an emergency room physician.[4]

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The Charlotte Observer

The clipping above was made on May 5, 2021 by a Newspaper.com user named smolkins who only makes clippings about Bahá’í people in the US. Smolkins added the note, “obit of Diana Greer Philemon, sister of Baha’i Steven Greer”.

Why are references to Bahá’ísm avoided after the 1990s, when Dr Greer becomes a fulltime “interplanetary diplomat”, bankrolled by Laurance Rockefeller?

His Wikipedia article says only that he “served as director of a meditation organization in the early 1970s,” citing this 1995 article from Yoga Magazine, which specifies that he was at the International Meditation Society in the Bahamas.

Brent Stone says that Bahá’í is “Widely considered to be an intelligence-gathering operation for mossad”. This is according to Ahmad Salek, Chairman of Iran’s Parliamentary Cultural Commission, who announced in 2014, “I declare very explicitly that Bahá’ísm is an espionage organization which gathers intelligence for the CIA and mossad and there are abundant documents to prove this.”

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The Jerusalem Post

I’ve never heard that before. The Bahá’í Faith was founded by a Persian aristocrat in the 1860s. I’ve never met a practicing Bahá’í but the late Cyrus Parsa described himself as “Zoroastrian-Bahá’í”.

The only thing I know about it is the incredible Bahá’í Temple outside of Chicago.

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: The Baha’i Temple (Wilmette, Illinois)

According to Wikipedia, the “New World Order” and “Global Governance” are central to the Bahá’í Faith:

“The conception of a “new world order” (Persian: نظم بدیع جهانی) found in the Baháʼí teachings refers to the gradual emergence of integrative political norms to be freely adopted by the nations and peoples of the earth, leading to a new system of worldwide governance that incorporates ideals of unity, justice, prosperity and continuing advancement for all nations, races, creeds, and classes.[1] These new institutional forms of governance, anticipated to arise in response to unprecedented global challenges, would uphold the dignity and well-being of all, where “each member of the human race is born into the world as a trust of the whole”.[2] The idea of global solidarity and unification, involving the political, moral and spiritual transformation of individual and collective behaviour, and leading to a flourishing global civilisation, is at the heart of Baháʼí vision, belief and action.[3]

Could the sole purpose of of Bahá’ísm to act as an intelligence cut-out to facilitate the New World Order? That seems hard to believe. But the facts are that the Bahá’í Faith is aligned with the Globalist agenda and that “The international governance and coordination of the Bahá’í Faith” is headquartered in Haifa, Israel, where Dr Greer was once “Employed in the information processing department”.

The other thing Dr Greer stopped talking about is his gay activism, which is where he got his training in public relations before he founded CSETI in 1990.

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The Candace Owens Show

About this, Brent Stone says, “I have absolutely nothing against homosexual rights anything like that. I completely agree with the premise. But if someone’s living a double life and doesn’t bring that out and own that, in this world and you want to be believed about ‘briefing the CIA and the President and all these people on UFOs’ – his early life doesn’t add up to me.”

Stone has a point.

People who know Dr Greer personally have told me that he is gay. It seems very weird to be closeted-gay in this day and age and especially when your life is dedicated to Disclosure – and even more so, when you were previously a gay rights activist!

One wonders if this secret has been used to control him? Is this why he insists that there are only positive extraterrestrials?

It’s complicated.

Stone might be too young to appreciate that until the ’80s or ’90s, US Military and Government personnel would be shot-up with thorazine, have their lives threatened or be outright killed for openly discussing UFOs and the Alien Presence – not unlike what has happened to gays in the past – and is still happening to gays in the Muslim world (minus the thorazine).

Stone doesn’t recognize how different the recent present is from the way things used to be, in some part, due to the work of Dr Greer.
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TRANSCRIPT

Danny Jones: Yeah, some of the stuff Greer says is so crazy and he’s like a guy who he’s really easy to dismiss…

Brent Stone: He’s been on this stuff for so long and he’s never produced anything of actual worth…

Danny Jones: (Reading from newspaper article) “Emily and Steven Greer. Haifa, Israel. Emily Kramer and Steven Greer were married Saturday at Bahá’í World Centre. The bride is the daughter of Mrs Douglas Kramer of Palm Beach, Florida and the late Dr Kramer. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania and received a master’s degree in occupational therapy from Boston University she was employed by by the Peace Corps in Barbados.

“The bridegroom is the son of Mr and Mrs James Greer of 1201 Princeton Avenue. He attended the Appalachian State University and is employed in the information processing department at Bahá’í World Centre. After a trip through Israel, the couple will live in Haifa and work at the Bahá’í World Center.”

Brent Stone: Yep. That’s the original marriage notice. Bahá’í was regarded as an intelligence-gathering operation for mossad.

Danny Jones: And Steven Greer worked for these people?

Brent Stone: And he worked for them. He started with those people, then he got –

Danny Jones: This is before he was a emergency room doctor?

Brent Stone: You know, I’ve done a lot of research on Steven Greer. I don’t want to make any claims to get me in any kind of trouble about Steven Greer but it doesn’t look, to me like he had enough time to even do medical school and a residency. And certainly, the old newspaper articles don’t refer to him as “Dr” Greer. It’s like he goes right into UFO stuff.

There’s indication he worked for a very short time at a small hospital in Western North Carolina and then, went directly into shilling UFOs for Rockefeller.

Danny Jones: Holy sh!t!

Brent Stone: Now, if you go to the next page, that’s one you might not want to – don’t say it out loud! No, no, you don’t want to say it –

Danny Jones: Why can’t I say it?

Brent Stone: OK, it’s your podcast.

Danny Jones: (Reading from newspaper article) “Rights of Homosexuals: Opposite Opinions” – “The National AIDS Hysteria Awareness Test.” We thank you for publishing Associated Press coverage of the October 11th March on Washington for gay and lesbian civil rights however as part of over 75 marchers from Asheville, we would like to correct the important inaccuracy…” OK, so what is this about?

Brent Stone: So, that’s a that’s an op-ed piece that Steven Greer wrote about himself and you can see the highlighted portions, there.

Danny Jones: Oh, the highlighted portions: “We feel that the struggle for our civil rights as gay and lesbian citizens is intricately linked to all struggles against racism, sexism and anti-semitism in the country and worldwide. We have fought and died for this country we are its doctors.”

Brent Stone: Signed –

Danny Jones: Signed by Steven M Greer MD of Asheville.

Brent Stone: Now, I have absolutely nothing against homosexual rights anything like that. I completely agree with the premise. But if someone’s living a a double life and doesn’t bring that out and own that, in this world and you want to be believed about “briefing the CIA and the President and all these people on UFOs,” that’s a little – his early life doesn’t add up to me. Look at the date on that versus the marriage.

Danny Jones: He’s not Jewish, is he?

Brent Stone: I don’t know. Maybe.

Danny Jones: What’s the date where’s the date oh October 16th, 1987.

Brent Stone: And when’s the marriage?

Danny Jones: The marriage was August 30th, 1979. Wow.

Brent Stone: So, what’s his story? It doesn’t add up. If you go through old newspaper archives, that’s all I can say. I don’t want to editorialize it or give my opinion about it.

But he has never presented anything that worked out; the little Atacama alien, you know, any of that. He has been saying the same sh¡t for decades and being given a platform, almost like a behavioral conditioning program.

Danny Jones: Every one of his podcasts does millions of views, too.

Brent Stone: Is it is it organic? One thing I’ve noticed with social media

Danny Jones: It might be.

Brent Stone: It might, yeah – a lot of bots.

Danny Jones: A lot of bots.

Brent Stone: A lot of media companies that will push you and make you look like you’re bigger than you are but it’s it’s hollow engagement.

Danny Jones: I’ve been noticing so many of these bots, lately…I don’t know how else to say this but it seems like anti-Semitism is “in vogue” right now on social media.

Brent Stone: Certainly, yeah.

Danny Jones: I watched a clip from the Joe Rogan podcast the other day and it was like him and a bunch of his buddies talking about the JFK files or whatever and then…I think it was Ari Shaffir, maybe brought up all the Israel connections and the JFK Files that just came out.

Brent Stone: Sure.

Danny Jones: And then, Joe said something and almost every f@cking comment in that episode was like essentially like, “If anyone ever mentions JFK and doesn’t bring up Israel, I don’t believe you anymore!” And it’s all like, “Joe’s an op, because he changed the subject when this guy brought up Israel!” It’s like, Israel is behind everything now.

Brent Stone: You’ll see a lot of hateful stuff jump up in the comments that, you look into the the person posting it and they don’t even have a real account.

Danny Jones: My point is is, it doesn’t feel organic. It feels unnatural.

Brent Stone: You can’t not look into socioeconomic and world global issues and not see the Mossad in some things.

Danny Jones: 100%.

Brent Stone: Of course.

Danny Jones: Of course.

Brent Stone: But that is not to take it into everything. If the data is not there, then you shouldn’t be looking for phantoms, just as a Boogeyman to look for. But certainly, Mossad was into a lot of sh¡t that they shouldn’t have been, including – you asked about Puharich and uh Uri Geller.

Puharich went over to Israel and met with Uri Geller at the behest of a Mossad colonel; met him, was hooked up with him to bring out and bring [him] over to the United States.

James Randi, there’s indication that he may have been part of a of two sides to that same op, that would go back and and forth, back and forth on one another in the media, to discredit the whole thing.

But Puharich came back and started doing his testing on children the same week and that was after his trip to Israel. It’s like somebody gave him the Green Light and it’s like, “Who the f@ck is running this?”

Danny Jones: You know, my mind is always going overdrive on this on this Israel stuff, too and it makes me wonder this about this sort of like Deep State war, if you want to call it that over Donald Trump.

And if there’s one thing that we know is absolutely true is that the CIA hates the Mossad the CIA and the Mossad do not get along.

Brent Stone: Is that is that like obvious to all of us, because it looks to me like they’re two sides of the same coin.

Danny Jones: It’s pretty obvious to me, talking to a lot of former CIA operators and when I ask them about Israel and I ask them about the Mossad it’s just constant f@cking frustration with these people.

Brent Stone: It may it may be. Yeah, I hate thinking that the CIA are traitors. I would love to believe that there are actually patriotic people within these organizations and that they’re as frustrated with sh¡t Epsteins as we are.

I don’t know. I don’t know Bustamante, you know. I don’t know any any of the people you’ve had on the podcast. I couldn’t tell you.

But like damn, it’s a it’s a dark world, where you think that you need to look over your shoulder even at your own people that are supposed to protect you."