YouTube, Facebook, Apple and Spotify all ban Alex Jones & Infowars

[norman]

I dissagree there PL. That's continuing the same merry go round. What's small and independent one year is a monolithic menace to humanity a few years later.


A level playing field is not something to be ideologically paranoid about.


What absolutely confounds me to the point of banging my head on the wall is, why are Americans SO proud of their bill of rights at exactly the same time as they are stuck with superglue to the principle of corporate autonomy ?

Dialing back corporate power and enforcing rules on them is one thing, doing so on the whole of the internet and its users is quite another. What we have is quite the sticky situation, and government rules applied to the internet at large is definitely not which way we want to go, as government and corporations alike make every attempt to end run around our beloved documents with the rules and rights they enumerate.


Constitutional rules, not government rules.


All the governement has to do is set a level playing field and let the corporations apply to be allowed to provide the services. If they all choose to run away, then the government can do it itself.


What would be so bad about a search engine at least as good as google that was set up and run by an accountable ( FOIA requests etc ) department of the US government ? The government could even enforce a replicative transition of all US user accounts with Facebook and Youtube to their own system. That is, they could force the corporations to not destroy the accounts while they pull out of the American social media market due to not agreeing with the new rules. The users could wake up one morning with their accounts intact but running on a new service system out of a government department, again, FOIA friendly into the bargain.


It only needs some imagination and resolution to kill the cancer. The corporations can do whatever they want, but they'll have to go and do it on their own.

[norman]

. . The predicament in which Alex Jones finds himself, with respect to the legal consequences of his hate speech . .






Explain that bit to me in simple terms, please.

[Deux Corbeaux]

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Vimeo joins Facebook, Apple, YouTube and other tech giants in banning InfoWars' Alex Jones from its platform


The video-hosting website Vimeo removed InfoWars from its platform for violating the site's Terms of Service.

It follows similar moves by almost every major Silicon Valley company, including Facebook, YouTube, Apple, Spotify and Pinterest. Twitter remains one of the last holdouts to keep Jones and InfoWars' content up on its site.

Jones appeared to seek out Vimeo as a refuge after he found himself banned from most popular social media platforms.

InfoWars posted more than 50 new videos on Vimeo by Thursday and Friday, Business Insider said.

Before that, the channel had fewer than a dozen videos uploaded to it.

Vimeo's Trust & Safety team manually reviewed the videos uploaded to InfoWars' channel and moved within 48 hours to delete them from the site.

As of Monday, InfoWars' Vimeo account shows a notice that says 'Sorry we couldn't find that page.'

Last week, several employees raised concerns internally at Vimeo that Jones' account was allowed to stay up on the site, Business Insider reported.

'We can confirm that Vimeo removed InfoWars’ account on Sunday, August 12 following the uploading of videos on Thursday and Friday that violated our Terms of Service prohibitions on discriminatory and hateful content,' a Vimeo spokesperson told MailOnline.

'Vimeo has notified the account owner and issued a refund.'

Vimeo CEO Anjali Sud is expected to make a company-wide announcement about the decision on Monday.

This means that Twitter is one of the last popular platforms where Jones and InfoWars can post content.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6056455/Vimeo-joins-Facebook-Apple-YouTube-banning-InfoWars-Alex-Jones-platform.html

[Satori]

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Default Re: YouTube, Facebook, Apple and Spotify all ban Alex Jones & Infowars

Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
If I ever post hate speech in this forum, then I would expect to be banned.
But Brian, what's hate speech?

Please define it precisely. Your post that I quoted implies that you think you know exactly what it is.

(Maybe others can try to do the same. But do note that it has NO formal legal definition.)

This is central and important to this entire thread.




Why yes, Bill, as a matter of fact, when I use language, I usually DO think I know what I mean, a condition not too alien to most of us around the here. This would, by extension, include the concept of “hate speech”. And while legal assignations of its meaning are always in flux, the concept itself is deeply enshrined in a plenitude of legal declarations. Entire countries have signed on to definitions of it. As always, though, its validity and consequences are to be decided on a case by case basis.

But here we are faced with a historical conundrum, aren’t we? The subjective nature of language requires a constant vigilance coincident with its use – else we risk the danger of confusing our audience. Clarity is key to understanding, and careful choice in one’s diction is always of utmost concern. And nowhere, not incidentally, is diction more germane than when deciphering the intent of those who wield hate speech.
Lewis Carrol had some serious fun with the subjective nature of language when he penned the encounter between Alice and Humpty Dumpty as …

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"I don't know what you mean by 'glory'," Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't- till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master-that's all."

Through the Looking Glass, Ch. VI

Word meaning, as Carrol so beautifully points out, can be rather malleable, depending on the intent of the one using it, and it behooves all of us to try to nail down the essences and boundaries of our thinking, especially when we embark on dialogues and arguments with others.

Herewith, then, is my rather feeble attempt at “nailing down” the amoeba that is hate speech.

To begin, I promise that I will eschew the temptation to resort to using the famous claim uttered by Justice Potter Stewart, to wit:

The phrase was used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.[1][2][3] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.[4]

Tempting as it is, and as common-sensical as it is, such an approach as ‘knowing it when you see it’ will do little to sate the appetites of those of us in the Avalon Forum who crave a deeper understanding of the human condition. So I must persist in my efforts, and I will.

“Hate speech” is, of course, a very complicated and contentious area of human interaction, but one which is extremely important and of increasing relevance (unfortunately) today. No longer is it possible to consider hate speech to be a weapon utilized only by deranged third world demagogues or upstart National Socialists of the past. No. With the advent of the all-pervasive and all-intrusive internet, hate speech is now in a golden era, a time when it is rampant and ascendant within our social discourse and our very psyches. It is simultaneously a beast that is dragonlike, full of ostentatious, fiery destruction and at the same time something far more subtle, an insidious nascent germ set into the protoplasm of the victim, growing stealthily within. It is a scourge that must be acknowledged and comprehended and, I would venture, one of the most damaging forces that our civilization has to reckon with.

The predicament in which Alex Jones finds himself, with respect to the legal consequences of his hate speech, and his vain attempts to save himself from financial ruin, (to the point of actually disowning his own claims, saying that "Sandy Hook probably happened") is now ground zero for what is surely to be a defining moment for the American notion of free speech. That the United States Supreme Court will have to weigh in at some point is very likely, and its decisions will have ramifications extending far into the lives of all of us. Whether having the court stacked with right leaning thinkers is an effect that is yet to be determined in this area.

Examining the concept of hate speech offers up the possibility spending a lifetime in the back and forth of moral concepts and applicability of the role that language plays. Such is not my intention – this lifetime is already too short to spend much effort on the unsolvable mystery that involves ideological fixations, psychological and spiritual core beliefs and other personal discernments. The shibboleth that is Alex Jones is but one manifestation of the looming crisis. The issue at hand, in my view, is not whether censorship is being imposed on Alex Jones because he poses a threat to The Powers That Be, but because he has incited violence in his deranged rants. In other words, there are limits to "free speech".

That said, I would like to ask your indulgence to allow a break in my essay. On my return, I intend to further my investigation. Till then,

Be Well everyone

Brian

I thank Brian for his post because I find it to be very thoughtful and well-written, not because I agree that AJ is guilty of inciting violence through hate speech--whatever that is.

[Ernie Nemeth]

And while flowery tales are told and arguments bantered about free speech takes its biggest hit yet. And in a few days or a coupla weeks this will all but be forgotten.

Just like Nazi Germany in the thirties, no one cared, no one acted, no one made a difference. Soon dissidents and even moderates were disappearing in the night. Soon the populace became parnoid and silent and obedient - lest they meet the fate of those already disappeared.

That is our next step too. Who will remember us? Who will remember me when I am disappeared. Since my teens I have continually stated that we are at war, that the very system we look to to save us is the enemy.

No one listens, but they do muddy the waters with this or that distinction or observation. We are at war - an ideological war that has been unable to win the rhetorical theatre so now we move to elliminating dissent and alternate veiws.

Those of you who think that this is no big deal take heart, your counterparts in Nazi Germany thought the same...

[ExomatrixTV]

Jordan Peterson Reacts to ALEX JONES Being DEPLATFORMED

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Jordan Peterson joins Steven Crowder to discuss Alex Jones/Info Wars being banned from various social media/tech sites and whether or not platforms such as YouTube should be treated as public utilities.


Alex Jones himself said he was the canary in the coal mine. It is stomach-churning to see liberals cheerleading the silencing of dissent by billion-dollar corporations. What hypocrites and moral cowards the Left has become!

[Foxie Loxie]

Ernie.....I would rather say that more people are being made aware of the fact that there IS a war going on & better yet(!) are DOING something about it!

The "Tip of the Spear" has made a dent or "they" wouldn't be worried about him!! :clapping:

[ThePythonicCow]

Excellent essay/ analysis... very enjoyable read. Although I think you are refining Orlov's analysis by characterizing his notion of collusion as "some element of or near the US Government..." As far as I could glean from Orlov he is coming at this from more of an old-school-Soviet perspective where he envisages the government as the centralized power giving the marching orders (in his words, Big Tech then "salutes"); I believe it is true that in the old USSR the big tech companies would have been the lapdogs for the government/KGB; but I would posit whatever the power structure undergirding this conspiracy isn't the US Government, per se. Call it Deep State. Call it some power "of or near" as you have, but not the US Government itself, which is a lap dog to them. Big Tech itself either is, or is closer to this power than the US Government itself.
Yes - I was "being kind to" Dimitri Orlov when I diluted his "government" to "elements of or near the government".

Yes - Deep State something - a topic in its own right.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I agree Paul. A business is led by one person, easily manipulated. A country is run by many people with many interests and little power in any one hand.

It is a misnomer to call the president, 'the most powerful man in the free world'. That distinction can only be held by someone with massive amounts of money - and wealth - and influence. A Soros or Zuckerberg or Gates type, or a Mafioso don or an El Chapo or a pope type. Greedy or evil seems to be the only categories...

[Valerie Villars]

In China, they are being ordered to replace pictures of Jesus with those of the President of that country. They are confiscating Bibles. If you don't like something, just hit delete and pretend they never existed. :focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

Alex Jones : Twitter just shut down my @realalexjones account!

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Source video link: Tech News (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKCh37jJrjLzLjNcVcbMOQ)

[norman]

The truth IS . . . .



Alex Jones is full of Hate Speech. There, I said it, it's true.


But, what's going on here is exactly the same thing as the Fake Russia collusion narrative. They constructed that Russia story to deflect away from their own collusion and their illegal operations to stop Trump getting elected.


Everybody with any sense knows Alex Jones puts a voice to hatred every single day. He hates the crooks that are running the human race into the ground.


Most people can relate to that very well. But, hey, "let's relabel that hatred and make it into a divisive hatred that we can use our well embedded PC values against". Make it look like his hatred is against hurting and vulnerable people, instead of the crooks who hurt and terrorise those hurting and vulnerable people.


Same trick as RussiaGate, same sickness.

[Bill Ryan]

Same trick as RussiaGate, same sickness.

Sure is. :thumbsup:

I've not listened to Alex since he was taken down everywhere, but what I strongly suspect is that his lawyers will already be on to all this like hounds on a rabbit. And he'll not be short of wealthy celebrity sponsors to support him financially while he does that.

Alex knows he's not going to get anywhere to reverse this just by making videos or posting his strong opinion. So, we're likely to see this being fought out in the courts. If so, that'll be mighty, mighty interesting.

[norman]

A nice little Youtube friendly Kitty Kitty video . . . .


https://yt3.ggpht.com/a-/ACSszfFvW3-rZms0nAgJUb4LGURT6Tij1qPyUBwWhA=s48-mo-c-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aQGaCZjQC1lM3DOwbCIFw)

Published on 6 Sep 2017

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[James Newell]

Alex Jones never said that the Sandy Hook incident was all actors, Others did. The Msm and media matters said he said it. If you can find a video where he said such a thing I will be happy to change my opinion of Jones.

[Valerie Villars]

An interesting quote from the linked article, regarding censorship. //https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/08/15/duhhh-stop-defending-alex-jones-this-will-never-hurt-the-left-derp-duh/


The plutocratic empire is held together by sheer narrative control, by the ability of ruling oligarchs to control the stories people tell each other about what’s going on in the world. The fact that trust in plutocrat-owned media is at an all-time low and people’s ability to network and share information is at an all-time high has not escaped the attention of our rulers, and they are doing everything in their power to stop us from sharing unauthorized ideas and information with each other.

This isn’t a game. We have no time to be playing around cheering for the silencing of political opponents while the noose gets tighter and tighter. In a corporate system of government, corporate censorship is state censorship, and censorship is never a friend of the left. Ever. The reality of our situation is that online dialogue has been funneled into platforms owned by billionaires with clear, demonstrable ties to government agencies, and now they’re beginning to censor that dialogue. The longer we wait to fight this, the weaker we become and the more tightly constricted our voices get.

Act now.

[norman]

Alex Jones never said that the Sandy Hook incident was all actors, Others did. The Msm and media matters said he said it. If you can find a video where he said such a thing I will be happy to change my opinion of Jones.


It's a coordinated operation. They have been ramping up the rhetoric against Alex Jones with all they have. That includes creating fictitious versions of him in TV drama that ridicules him in a role he doesn't even occupy in real life and sidelines everything he stands for.

Then just as the first big court case comes up, charging him with a dubious concept of a felony, they remove all the actual evidence he could point to in his defence, leaving the world to make it's mind up solely on the hacked and misrepresentative versions concocted by his media enemies.


edit:


Alex Jones is currently convinced that there is a false flag event on the brink of happening that will be some kind of attack on main stream media. I think he's calling it right. It's perfect for the cabal. They will blame Alex Jones and especially Trump.

[norman]

If you only listen to Alex Jones very occasionally, let this show be one of those occasions. It's special and important. Mike Adams joins him in the studio later on.


The 'writing on the wall' is very serious.


Alex Jones - 2018-Aug-16, Thursday


LISTEN:
https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-aug-16-thursday/?utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_content=html

[arwen]

Alex Jones’ flagship radio station shut down by Federal Communications Commission

RT
Published time: 16 Aug, 2018 09:50
Edited time: 16 Aug, 2018 16:27


The US communications regulator has shut down Alex Jones’ flagship radio station and slapped it with a $15,000 fine. The news comes after the controversial commentator was banned from a range of social media outlets.

A lawsuit filed in the US District Court in Austin this week accuses Liberty Radio of operating without federal consent since at least 2013, the Austin American-Statesman reports.

The rest of the article is here. (https://www.rt.com/usa/436082-alex-jones-radio-shutdown/)

Alex is denying that radio show was his in the link (https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-aug-16-thursday/?utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_content=html) posted by norman above.

[KiwiElf]

Alex Jones’ flagship radio station shut down by Federal Communications Commission

RT
Published time: 16 Aug, 2018 09:50
Edited time: 16 Aug, 2018 16:27


The US communications regulator has shut down Alex Jones’ flagship radio station and slapped it with a $15,000 fine. The news comes after the controversial commentator was banned from a range of social media outlets.

A lawsuit filed in the US District Court in Austin this week accuses Liberty Radio of operating without federal consent since at least 2013, the Austin American-Statesman reports.

The rest of the article is here. (https://www.rt.com/usa/436082-alex-jones-radio-shutdown/)

Alex is denying that radio show was his in the link (https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-aug-16-thursday/?utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_content=html) posted by norman above.


Infowars has continued to operate and has even experienced a surge in popularity in the wake of the restrictions.

Hmmmm, "Streisand Effect" - go Alex! :) :clapping:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect


The Streisand effect is a phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet. It is an example of psychological reactance, wherein once people are aware that some information is being kept from them, their motivation to access and spread it is increased."

Babs is not just famous for her songs ... ;)

[Ernie Nemeth]

When I read that I laughed, it was so ridiculous. Flagship station - in the basement of a libertarian bookstore. I guess they want to make it seem like Alex Jones is merely a fringe voice with only a few followers, not the actual millions that link to or listen to or watch his show.

[Bill Ryan]

When I read that I laughed, it was so ridiculous. Flagship station - in the basement of a libertarian bookstore. I guess they want to make it seem like Alex Jones is merely a fringe voice with only a few followers, not the actual millions that link to or listen to or watch his show.

Correct. It's NOT his radio station. It's tiny, and he doesn't even know the guys.

This is yet more spun fake news, which RT picked up from Associated Press.

[ThePythonicCow]

... Associated Press.

They need to change their name: Associated Press Propaganda

[Bill Ryan]

...but because he [Alex Jones] has incited violence in his deranged rants.

[Folks, I met Brian personally back in 2014 when he visited Ecuador: he's a very nice man.]

But Brian, here and now, I'm calling you out. Directly.

Please document what you're so glibly claiming.

I'm asking you do that, because I don't believe you can.

I don't know whether this is the case or not, but my guess is that you've never actually listened to him in context. Only edited segments fed to you by CBC.

CBC is not always accurate. I wonder what they say about 9/11. About the Oklahoma City bombing. About JFK. Please let us know!

While you're at it, please tell us what Snopes says, too.

And, then, finally, let us know what you think. (And why. That might be a useful process.)

Now, if you discover you can't document that Alex Jones has incited violence — then, as with all ethical journalistic protocol, please post a retraction.

Try considering the possibility that you may be quite wrong — maybe in quite a large number of your views. It's liberating.

[arwen]

Not to detract from Bill's very relevant questions to Fellow Aspirant above, but wanted to leave this short 20 minute video here, from one of his former colleagues who left Alex Jones's show a few years ago, and who now broadcasts with her partner as Truthstream Media:

Meet the Strawman to Erase Our First Amendment Online (Published August 8, 2018, before the latest developments, but with very valid points)


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[ThePythonicCow]

...but because he [Alex Jones] has incited violence in his deranged rants.

[Folks, I met Brian personally back in 2014 when he visited Ecuador: he's a very nice man.]

But Brian, here and now, I'm calling you out. Directly.

Please document what you're so glibly claiming.
Also, Fellow Aspirant, please listen to the Alex Jones show posted above in Post #268 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103766-YouTube-Facebook-Apple-and-Spotify-all-ban-Alex-Jones-Infowars&p=1242413&viewfull=1#post1242413). Alex is quite specific in denouncing and denying these charges.

I do NOT like this forum being used for what, as best as I can currently tell, is false "news" that risks being used to setup a major false flag against some main stream media installation, to be blamed on Trump and the alternative media.

[Bill Ryan]

...but because he [Alex Jones] has incited violence in his deranged rants.

[Folks, I met Brian personally back in 2014 when he visited Ecuador: he's a very nice man.]

But Brian, here and now, I'm calling you out. Directly.

Please document what you're so glibly claiming.
Also, Fellow Aspirant, please listen to the Alex Jones show posted above in Post #268 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103766-YouTube-Facebook-Apple-and-Spotify-all-ban-Alex-Jones-Infowars&p=1242413&viewfull=1#post1242413). Alex is quite specific in denouncing and denying these charges.

I do NOT like this forum being used for what, as best as I can currently tell, is false "news" that risks being used to setup a major false flag against some main stream media installation, to be blamed on Trump and the alternative media.

Yes. I recorded the core part of what is a short interview of Alex Jones by Mike Adams, to put on record Alex's views on violence.

It's a definitive statement, to counter the edited false narrative promoted by the mainstream.

Here. It's 13:45 mins long, and starts at 1:23. Most of the key statements are in the first few minutes. It's 8 Mb, easy to attach to any e-mail. Download it and listen carefully. Send it to others, too.


Alex Jones' on record statement about never inciting violence, with Mike Adams, 16 August 2018
http://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_with_Mike_Adams_on_record_statement_about_never_inciting_violence_16_August_2018.mp3

Fellow Aspirant/Brian, I ask you to kindly listen to this and respond clearly before you post another thing on the forum. Really.

You're not doing this for us. You're doing this for yourself.

You've been a career teacher, committed to enabling learning. So, here you go.

In a strange way, we should all thank you as a beautiful case study about how easily someone who is intelligent and well-meaning can be so deceived by a false story in the mainstream. If it can happen to you, it can happen to many — and has.

[Valerie Villars]

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Perhaps a little inspiration is in order.

I am in no way advocating physical violence or aggression. We must stand up.

[James Newell]

What you are watching with Jones is an attempted take down of all freethinkers right to speak.

They are doing a technique Called "3rd partying", which says he did or said this or that; and when you review exactly what he said or did you find they are trying to convict him with lies and distortions of what he said. They take one lie(s) and forward them to "create" the reality he did wrong. Most people don't do the research and go along with it.

It is difficult to have a defense against the lies of this magnitude but I have a feeling what we are seeing is the desperateness of the deep state, they are too late in putting the genie back into the bottle, sooner or later there will be laws busting up google and facebook and others because with these acts that they have done to Jones and others they have violated Rico laws and antitrust laws quite clearly. They are counting on stupid people going along with it. Maybe they think they can win the elections in a few months if they stop the conservative, rational and enlightened voices. And then impeach Trump, I doubt it!

It is a great time to be alive to watch and join the battle against the deep state and their mouthpieces and cronies. It is either going to be a free world or an enslaved one,( a totally controlled internet) which side do you join in on??

[Bill Ryan]

They are doing a technique Called "3rd partying", which says he did or said this or that; and when you review exactly what he said or did you find they are trying to convict him with lies and distortions of what he said. They take one lie(s) and forward them to "create" the reality he did wrong. Most people don't do the research and go along with it.

Right. The origin of this term is like this:

Imagine that your husband, wife, or partner is being very critical of you and giving you a really hard time, or maybe even saying unkind and untrue things about you to others.

Then you discover that a THIRD PARTY — a separate person (or group!) from the two of you — is whispering in your partner's ear a whole bunch of lies about you. If they believe the whispering lies, then it's a perfect recipe for conflict.

Like with Fellow Aspirant/Brian. He's a good guy, but believes the Third Party whispering, which in his case is [probably] in the guise of TV programs on CBC.

So the lies in one person's ear, which they're faithfully believing, then whip up conflict between folks who would otherwise be friends.

Simple stuff. But if it didn't often work so well, it wouldn't be deployed as the weapon it frequently is. And it's not trivial, either: marriages, and longstanding friendships, really can break because of third party operations like this.

[Valerie Villars]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


Straw man
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the logical fallacy. For other uses, see Straw man (disambiguation).
"Man of straw" redirects here. For the novel by Heinrich Mann, see Der Untertan.
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."

The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.[2][3]

This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery "battle" and the defeat of an "enemy" may be more valued than critical thinking or an understanding of both sides of the issue.

Thanks to Alex and all the other information I've listened to, I updated my voter registration today, so I can vote in those mid term elections.

[norman]

"Q" has just posted this (click to enlarge graphic; delete the folder icon off the end of the included links in your browser):

https://qanon.app/

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FAKE NEWS consolidation [propaganda arm of the D party].
Define Antitrust Law(s).
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/antitrust-laws
The Sherman Act outlaws "every contract, combination, or conspiracy in restraint of trade," and any "monopolization, attempted monopolization, or conspiracy or combination to monopolize."
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws
"The FTC's competition mission is to enforce the rules of the competitive marketplace — the antitrust laws. These laws promote vigorous competition and protect consumers from anticompetitive mergers and business practices."
Reconcile.
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+FB
+TWITTER
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
https://www.fcc.gov/general/telecommunications-act-1996
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[Plan]
Could a new Telecommunications Act be on the way?
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"Could a new Telecommunications Act be on the way?"

... which would tend to suggest that there will be?




Alex Jones talks, here in this short snippet, about a vacuum that the corporations are rushing to fill before government acts to restrict them. Mainly, he says that Apple and Google are zeroing in on the Chinese model for everything and are doing it here and everywhere as fast as possible.

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/ged091xw7nwqewrw6je4a2g8pvwkw3a1

[Ernie Nemeth]

I think some Rico laws apply as well...





From Bill: (I had to look it up!)
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, passed in 1970 (reference here (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/content/rico-act.html))

[Valerie Villars]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_radio


Pirate radio or a pirate radio station is a radio station that broadcasts without a valid license.

In some cases radio stations are considered legal where the signal is transmitted, but illegal where the signals are received—especially when the signals cross a national boundary. In other cases, a broadcast may be considered "pirate" due to the nature of its content, its transmission format (especially a failure to transmit a station identification according to regulations), or the transmit power (wattage) of the station, even if the transmission is not technically illegal (such as an amateur radio transmission). Pirate radio is sometimes called bootleg radio (a term especially associated with two-way radio), clandestine radio (associated with heavily politically motivated operations) or free radio.

"Governments Loathe People Being Free" "Pirate Radio"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boat_That_Rocked

I posted this information because the above movie was based on a true story in the UK. Back in the sixties, they had pirate radio ships out in the water, which were not subject to national laws. They weren't breaking any laws. The public loved the broadcasts because they were of rock n roll by rebel d.j.'s.



The government couldn't do a thing about it because they weren't breaking any laws. So, they made up a law saying the radio waves were interfering with military maneuvers and were therefore now against the law. Operation shutdown complete.

Please note that I am NOT saying Alex Jones had a pirate radio station. He did not. My point is tptb are always trying to find a way of shutting down communication and real information.

Alex Jones may be down but he is not out. I have a feeling he's going to be vindicated.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[James Newell]

An internet Bill of Rights where FREE speech is the right (and standard) except in cases where violence, grossness eg. killing etc and blatant physical threats and slander could be a base. Just because someone has different ideas or religious views or political views shouldn't be a reason to stop their speech and videos. People need to increase their Tolerance to others and their views of things and not go crazy because they disagree. Bad ideas will lose out or stand out in the public domain without others trying to interfere on what to interpret.

To be quite honest the brainwashing that the kids (and college students) have received in school are a prime reason for this psychosis of intolerance.
Oh, I forgot, the NWO WANTS us all at our throats, we are easier to control that way...

[norman]

In 2013, the Bilderberg group met in London and the meeting was called the "Googleberg" meeting for a reason, because it was the meeting that married Google and Bilderberg together as one power house.

Google had been having it's own meeting, called the Zeitgeist conference, since 2006.




Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Infowars.com
May 13, 2013

Authoritarian, anti-democratic power networks are being re-branded as trendy, philanthropic-style forums.

The secretive Bilderberg Group is currently undergoing a major transformation that will see it and other high profile networks merge under the banner of Google as the elite accelerates its plan to consolidate its technocratic agenda . . . . . . .

continue reading here:
https://www.infowars.com/google-berg-global-elite-transforms-itself-for-technocratic-revolution/


https://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2013/130513google.jpg

[Sunny-side-up]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103902-What-if...-vBulletin--the-forum-software-platform--goes-the-way-of-Facebook-and...

The above Avalon post fits here as well I think


Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
Avalon library. a magic place.

We don't carve knowledge into stone pillars or tablets in our age.

If I find important information and or video documentary's I make personal hard copies.
I even make multiple copies hard drives and DVD (Of course technology dependent) for safe storage o.0

The way I see the state of the world, with the way I see some of our so called wise leaders desires/designs on the future, well.

All I can say is make copies of any true knowledge and or helpful wise knowledge before it becomes lost as myths.

Be the wise wizards of the future by having knowledge to pass on. Leave knowledge to be found.
Absolutely, and, I've been doing this for quite a few years now as well, in anticipation of the kind of purges we're starting to see happening now.




Tintin :
Absolutely, and, I've been doing this for quite a few years now as well, in anticipation of the kind of purges we're starting to see happening now.

Sound advice indeed.

[ExomatrixTV]

Mainstream Media: Enemy of the People
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[ExomatrixTV]

Trump Finally Addresses Social Media Censorship of Conservatives


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[ExomatrixTV]

Exclusive: President Trump Planning Major Action Against Tech Monopoly Censorship


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https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-president-trump-planning-major-action-against-tech-monopoly-censorship/

[Foxie Loxie]

"Broadcast no longer available"....what did it say? :confused:

[norman]

"Broadcast no longer available"....what did it say? :confused:

I don't see a message like that when I check the infowars site but if you are looking for the Sunday 2 hour show it's available here:

https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-aug-19-sunday/

He sounds very happy and like the cat that got the cream. He must have had some very good news.

It has been confirmed to Alex from very high up that the new guy running things is Senator Warner.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Mark_Warner_113th_Congress_photo.jpg/220px-Mark_Warner_113th_Congress_photo.jpg

He's taken over the reins from McCain (allegedly).


Wikipedia says that he's from Alexandria, Virginia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria,_Virginia). I'm sure I read something on this forum about that place being a hotbed of something nefarious (?)

[ExomatrixTV]

Why Does Facebook Use NATO To Help Censor Users?


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[ExomatrixTV]

The Next Censorship Wars and This is What Trump Can Do:

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20 aug. 2018

[Hervé]

Worth repeating:

Social media censorship—here are the deep basics (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/social-media-censorship-here-are-the-deep-basics/)

by Jon Rappoport (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/) Aug 20 (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/social-media-censorship-here-are-the-deep-basics/), 2018

Orchestrated un-creation of the fabric of free speech—this is what we’re seeing.

Several of the biggest “conservative/libertarian” figures on the Net—Alex Jones (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/the-war-to-destroy-alex-jones-part-one/), Dennis Prager, Stefan Molyneux, among others—have recently been banned/censored by Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other social media companies.

When you ask why this is happening, one obvious answer pops up right away:
These social media corporations are fulfilling desperate pleas from major news outlets, who have been losing audience, in massive chunks, to the likes of Jones, Prager, and Molyneux.
The newspapers and TV news networks came to end of their rope. They had no solutions to their problem—so they went to Google, Facebook, and others, and said, HELP US. Meaning: Censor our competition.

On one level, understanding censorship is that simple.

But then you have to ask yourself this question: Why would Google, Facebook, and other social media giants bend to the needs of mainstream news outlets?

These social media operations are richer and bigger than mainstream news. They could easily have said: “No, we like open forums and a wide variety of opinion, and we think people should be able to deal with ideas they don’t like. We stand for an open society, and we vigorously defend the 1st Amendment.”

But they didn’t say that. Instead, they’re enacting bans and censorship. Why?

The obvious answer staring us in the face is: Google and Facebook and You Tube, for example, the largest social media corporations, are not “free companies.”

They’ve been in bed with the intelligence community for a long time, and they favor wall to wall surveillance of the population. They favor the “liberal” version of a policed State, where correct opinions are let in the door and incorrect opinions are shut down.

Let’s quickly review a bit of Facebook history:
The big infusion of cash that sent Mark Zuckerberg and his fledgling college enterprise on their way came from Accel Partners, in 2004.

Jim Breyer, head of Accel, attached a $13 million rocket to Facebook, and nothing has ever been the same.

Earlier that same year, a man named Gilman Louie joined the board of the National Venture Capital Association of America (NVCA). The chairman of NVCA? Jim Breyer. Gilman Louie happened to be the first CEO of the important CIA start-up, In-Q-Tel.

In-Q-Tel was founded in 1999, with the express purpose of funding companies that could develop technology the CIA would use to “gather data.”

That’s not the only connection between Jim Breyer and the CIA’s man, Gilman Louie. In 2004, Louie went to work for BBN Technologies, headed up by Breyer. Dr. Anita Jones also joined BBN at that time. Jones had worked for In-Q-Tel and was an adviser to DARPA, the Pentagon’s technology department that helped develop the Internet.

With these CIA/DARPA connections, it’s no surprise that Jim Breyer’s jackpot investment in Facebook is not part of the popular mythology of Mark Zuckerberg. Better to omit it. Who could fail to realize that Facebook, with its endless stream of personal data, and its tracking capability, is an ideal CIA asset?

What about Google?
Read Nafeez Ahmed’s (twitter (https://twitter.com/NafeezAhmed)) excellent multi-part series at medium.com, “How the CIA made Google” (https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e):
“INSURGE INTELLIGENCE (twitter (https://twitter.com/insurgeintel)) can now reveal the vast extent to which the US intelligence community is implicated in nurturing the web platforms we know today…The lynchpin of this story is the corporation that in many ways defines the 21st century with its unobtrusive omnipresence: Google.”

“Google styles itself as a friendly, funky, user-friendly tech firm that rose to prominence through a combination of skill, luck, and genuine innovation. This is true. But it is a mere fragment of the story. In reality, Google is a smokescreen behind which lurks the US military-industrial complex.”

“The inside story of Google’s rise, revealed here for the first time, opens a can of worms that goes far beyond Google, unexpectedly shining a light on the existence of a parasitical network driving the evolution of the US national security apparatus, and profiting obscenely from its operation…”
In other words, social media aren’t banning and censoring “conservatives/libertarians” merely as a favor to their kissing cousins who run major news outlets—no, this goes much deeper.

This is the intelligence and Pentagon communities, with their attendant neo-cons and military contractors, defending their version of the “new world.”

Anyone with a large online audience, who has strong opinions which resist and run counter to this new world vision, is considered an obstacle, and a target for censorship.

The intelligence/Pentagon vision?


Endless wars;



endless waves of migration engendering chaos;



multinational corporations free to roam the planet, set up shop in hellholes, produce their goods for relative pennies, sell those goods anywhere with no tariffs, thus



undermining local economies and centralizing economic power in fewer hands;



the vast expansion of surveillance and censorship (which go hand in hand); widening poverty, which makes more and more people dependent on government…

Social media censorship isn’t merely a bunch of knee-jerk liberals trying to stop ideas they don’t like. It is that, but it’s much, much, much more.

Google and Facebook are nurtured creatures of the national security [fascist] state.


Here are links to go to, to listen to the Alex Jones show:

Live stream: 9am to Noon ET:
http://streams.infowars.com/realnews

Live stream: Noon to 4pm ET:
http://streams.infowars.com/alexjones

Live stream: 4pm to 7pm ET:
http://streams.infowars.com/warroom

Additionally, here:
https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/


Jon Rappoport

[norman]

Alex gossip . . .



I'm listening live. Trump is preparing executive orders (plural) over the next 2 weeks, the cavalry is coming.




Does anyone here have a link I can use to record Coast 2 Coast AM tonight (monday)? Alex Jones is going to be on C2C with George Norey tonight.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Twitter chief executive Jack Dorsey said he is rethinking core parts of the social media platform so it doesn’t enable the spread of hate speech, harassment and false news, including conspiracy theories shared by prominent users like Alex Jones and Infowars. writes the Washington Post.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/08/15/jack-dorsey-says-hes-rethinking-core-how-twitter-works/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e73c65f31ac3

I do hope Trump's counter-move delivers, and soon. Because according to this article, Twitter are planning to roll out a host of new measures and controls to attack the alt-stream media.

A glimpse of these sinister new proposals include:






"[a way] to surround false tweets with factual context...More context about a tweet, including tweets that call it out as obviously fake, could help people make judgments for themselves, Dorsey said."


Aren't we lucky that Twitter will decide what is "obviously fake" so we don't have to bother! :dirol:

Oh and there's plenty more, including:






"He also expressed openness to labeling bots — automated accounts that sometimes pose as human users — and redesigning key elements of the social network, including the “like” button and the way Twitter displays users’ follower counts."


In fact I've heard Twitter might actually scrap both "like" and "number of followers" features altogether, and it's quite clear why. When a CNN pundit tweets and gets 5 likes for it, or they only have 1/10th the followers of Trump advocates, it is very clear how behind the curve of public opinion they truly are. This hurts them tremendously, as people tend to gravitate to simple metrics such as likes, retweets, having millions of followers. It's a sure guide to what is popular and trending in the twitterverse.

Similar to youtube. If you find two videos on any given subject, and one has 300 views and another 3million, which one are you more likely to watch?

Removing these features is an effective (and insidious) way to hide the embarrassing numbers of media giants, whilst at the same time hiding the huge numbers of alt-media, like Infowars, that at present are trouncing them across the board.

[James Newell]

I'll judge what is "Fake News" or not, thank you very much. I like to do my own research on these things. It is the ONLY way.
Let the racketeering and monopoly lawsuits begin. I'm looking forward to busting up these unethical giants of tech, who want to tell ME who to watch or listen to.

[norman]

If they are losing millions or billions per day, they will come to their senses super fast. I can think of a way to force that situation upon them but I doubt business friendly Trump will want to do it.


He has to be careful NOT to allow them to brand themselves as media companies, or publishers etc, as is the way the establishment in the UK are talking. If they can claim that, they can then claim any restrictions upon them are restrictions upon the 'media'.

[ExomatrixTV]

2020 Is the Time
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20 aug. 2018

[ExomatrixTV]

Tucker: Deplatforming of Alex Jones is a Coordinated Effort by Big Tech


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17 aug. 2018

[ExomatrixTV]

“SORRY LIBERALS! Banning Alex Jones Made Him Even MORE Popular”, Nigel Farage DESTROYS Liberal Media


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12 aug. 2018

[norman]

If President Eisenhower thought it was OK to send the marines into Area 51, how about Trump doing the same with Silicon Valley?


Nigel Farage has just put his foot right in his mouth. He just said let's treat Facebook and Twitter as publishers and make them responsible for what is said on their platform. He couldn't be more wrong if he was trying. That is completely the wrong way to go Nigel. It's exactly what they want ! . . . Editorial control !

[ThePythonicCow]

“SORRY LIBERALS! Banning Alex Jones Made Him Even MORE Popular”, Nigel Farage DESTROYS Liberal Media


Tucker: Deplatforming of Alex Jones is a Coordinated Effort by Big Tech


2020 Is the Time

ExomatrixTV: could you go back and edit these posts, to say something more substantive about what is in the videos?

Ten minutes of your time doing that, on each video posted on a high traffic thread such as this, could save 100's of Avalon members, and 1000's of Avalon guests from either spending 5 to 15 minutes, each video, figuring it out for themselves (which they may well realize was time wasted), or, more likely, just skipping the video because they were not aware of what was in it (which some will miss out on a video that have been something of actual interest to them.)

Useful descriptions also help for the historical record, in the case of videos that sooner or later, are no longer available. As we know from this thread, sometimes Youtube takes good stuff down.

In short: a little extra time by the poster can add significant value to, and save far more aggregate time for, the reader.

[Bill Ryan]

“SORRY LIBERALS! Banning Alex Jones Made Him Even MORE Popular”, Nigel Farage DESTROYS Liberal Media


Tucker: Deplatforming of Alex Jones is a Coordinated Effort by Big Tech


2020 Is the Time

ExomatrixTV: could you go back and edit these posts, to say something more substantive about what is in the videos?

Ten minutes of your time doing that, on each video posted on a high traffic thread such as this, could save 100's of Avalon members, and 1000's of Avalon guests from either spending 5 to 15 minutes, each video, figuring it out for themselves (which they may well realize was time wasted), or, more likely, just skipping the video because they were not aware of what was in it (which some will miss out on a video that have been something of actual interest to them.)

Useful descriptions also help for the historical record, in the case of videos that sooner or later, are no longer available. As we know from this thread, sometimes Youtube takes good stuff down.

In short: a little extra time by the poster can add significant value to, and save far more aggregate time for, the reader.

Yep, that really helps. And especially if the video subsequently disappears! :)

:focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

FACEBOOK: New World Order Control Plan revealed

Richard explained the Chinese "Social Credit" System Coming To USA

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21 aug. 2018
Sorry I have NO TIME now to summarize textual what is said in the video, I hope soon i can or somebody can help me out ... would be highly appreciated :highfive:

[ExomatrixTV]

President Trump: Censoring Independent Journalist on Social Media "Will Not Be Tolerated"

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21 aug. 2018


Sorry I have NO TIME now to summarize textual what is said in the video, I hope soon i can or somebody can help me out ... would be highly appreciated :highfive:

[James Newell]

I like what she says. I think she is right. They are going to (or doing it right now) systematically shut off our right to speak. First the conservatives, then later the libs and finally only the people in power will have the right to speak.

The answer is to fight back NOW! Later we may not be allowed to talk back.

The Founding Fathers of the US knew this would come. That's why they also included the 2nd amendment.

[norman]

Trump closes down his Twitter account and moves to Minds dot com.


No, I'm only saying that to make a point. He hasn't really. Not yet anyway.


Imagine the impact of it if he really did.

[ThePythonicCow]

Sorry I have NO TIME now to summarize textual what is said in the video, I hope soon i can or somebody can help me out ... would be highly appreciated :highfive:
Your comment, ExomatrixTV, inspires me to offer a response.

However in an effort to not derail this thread further from its intended topic, I will response by PM.

[norman]

Here's a flashback to Jade Helm 2015. An interview by John B Wells of a woman who called herself DJ.


Jade Helm was first talked about as just another military exercise but it quickly became apparent that there was very much more to it. It involved a whole spectrum of factors including AI and action <-> reaction information loops.

Jade Helm came and went. It's significance to these developments in the big tech platforms only becomes more obvious in my opinion. Google and Apple are operating inside China according to Chinese plans for social control. Jade Helm, as described in this interview is a perfect match with that. It doesn't take much paranoid imagination to see the same thing developing here in the 'free' world.

People have criticised "DJ" as using spurious ideas to knit together her grasp of the situation but I don't know of a better presentation about what could really be going on with A.I. at the Helm of Control State tactics.

If you have not heard of Jade Helm, or have not thought about it for a long while, I recommend having a listen to this interview all over again.


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Published on 19 Jun 2015


This link will start the video exactly where the interview part begins:
https://youtu.be/oqGEz9IqOrE?t=11m45s

[Hervé]

Trump: "I would rather have fake news than have anybody - including liberals, socialists, anything - than have anybody stopped and censored." (https://www.rt.com/usa/436537-trump-fake-news-censorship/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/436537-trump-fake-news-censorship/)
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© Leah Millis / Reuters


Despite being constantly at odds with liberal mainstream media - often calling them 'fake news' - Donald Trump has told his supporters that even having to tolerate CNN is a much better alternative to censorship.

Talking to his supporters at a rally in Charleston, West Virginia, President Trump firmly warned them against embracing censorship of opposite viewpoints no matter how much opposite they are.

"You can't pick one person and say 'well we don't like what he's been saying, he's out,'" Trump said, pushing back against censorship of any social media accounts, regardless of political affiliation. "You can't have censorship," he added, because "it can turn around, it can be them next."




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“You can’t have censorship.” Pres. Trump at West Virginia rally: "I would rather have fake news than have anybody – including liberals, socialists, anything – than have anybody stopped or censored.” http://abcnews.com/politics (https://t.co/c8WxE0BwjS)

Video:

See the whole picture with @ABC News.

5:20 PM - 21 Aug 2018
60 replies 19 retweets 49 likes
"So we'll live with fake news. I mean I hate to say it but we have no choice because that's by far the better alternative," Trump explained. "I would rather have fake news than have anybody - including liberals, socialists, anything - than have anybody stopped and censored."

Trump has repeatedly accused US news outlets critical of the administration as 'fake news.' In addition to CNN, the president has called out the Washington Post, The New York Times, MSNBC, and other liberal outlets for spreading false and deliberately out-of-context information.

While on one hand defending the First Amendment, Trump in October of last year spurred a massive backlash after suggesting that the government must review the licenses of some news networks. "With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License?" he asked in a tweet. "Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked."




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_bigger.jpg Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked. Not fair to public!

5:09 PM - 11 Oct 2017
48,372 replies 18,742 retweets 82,998 likes In addition to news outlets, Trump has also challenged social media platforms, accusing them of bias. Just this past weekend, Trump accused Silicon Valley giants of "totally discriminating" against users with right-wing views. The president's comments came after several top social media platforms banned the accounts of controversial political commentator Alex Jones.

In a series of tweets on Saturday, the billionaire president called social media censorship "a very dangerous thing & absolutely impossible to police," adding that "if you are weeding out Fake News, there is nothing so Fake as CNN & MSNBC, & yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed."




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_bigger.jpg Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

.....Censorship is a very dangerous thing & absolutely impossible to police. If you are weeding out Fake News, there is nothing so Fake as CNN & MSNBC, & yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed. I get used to it and watch with a grain of salt, or don’t watch at all..

4:32 AM - 18 Aug 2018
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"Let everybody participate, good & bad, and we will all just have to figure it out!" he said in one of his messages.

While speaking out against censorship, back in July Trump said that his administration will look into "shadow banning" practices on Twitter which reduce the visibility of certain people on the platform, which the US president believes affects the conservative voices.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

If you have not heard of Jade Helm, or have not thought about it for a long while, I recommend having a listen to this interview all over again.

Good idea. Jade Helm seems to mark the beginning of the roller coast ride we've been on ever since. Future historians will probably spend a lot of time going back over what all was happening back then.

[norman]

There is a whole page about infowars dot com at Wikipedia.

It's a complete hit piece from start to finish.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars

Somebody has been working hard on the page. Nearly all the references are from 2018 or 2017.



References

"Infowars.com Site Info" (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com). Alexa Internet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Internet). Retrieved February 16, 2018."InfoWars.com
(http://whois.domaintools.com/infowars.com)
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Oppenheim, Maya (2018-03-04). "Dozens of leading brands pull ads from far right conspiracy site InfoWars' YouTube channel" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/infowars-leading-brands-youtube-pull-alex-jones-a8239371.html). Independent.

Hafner, Josh (2018-05-24). "Sandy Hook families suing Alex Jones aren't the only ones to threaten conspiracy theorist" (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/24/sandy-hook-families-sue-infowars-alex-jones-over-conspiracy-theory/641159002/). USA Today.

Murphy, Paul P. (2018-03-03). "Advertisers flee InfoWars founder Alex Jones' YouTube channel" (http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/03/technology/youtube-ads-infowars-alex-jones/index.html). CNN tech.

Lima, Cristiano (2018-03-13). "InfoWars, Alex Jones sued for defamation over Charlottesville claims" (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/13/alex-jones-sued-charlottesville-claims-459244). Politico.

"Families of Sandy Hook victims could force Alex Jones to admit his outrageous lie" (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/06/03/families-sandy-hook-victims-could-force-alex-jones-admit-his-outrageous-lie/v8XhEH3xdfnMtWNdbsPz0O/story.html). Boston Globe.

"Why Tommy Robinson Was Jailed, and Why U.S. Rightwingers Care" (http://time.com/5294192/tommy-robinson-jailed-trial-roseanne-barr/). TIME.

"Republicans press social media giants on anti-conservative 'bias' that Dems call 'nonsense'" (https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/nation-now/republicans-press-social-media-giants-on-anti-conservative-bias-that-dems-call-nonsense/465-d7f91036-0959-4015-9563-127e614b01ed). CBS19.

Shantz, Jeff (2016). Manufacturing Phobias: The Political Production of Fear in Theory and Practice. p. 231. ISBN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number) 978-1-4426-2884-7 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-1-4426-2884-7).

Sandlin, Jennifer (2017). Paranoid Pedagogies: Education, Culture, and Paranoia. p. 170. ISBN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number) 978-3-319-64764-7 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-3-319-64764-7).

"Free Speech Systems LLC" (https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/0897673D:US-free-speech-systems-llc). Bloomberg L.P. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_L.P.)

"Roger Stone, former Donald Trump adviser, lands InfoWars gig with Alex Jones" (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/2/roger-stone-former-trump-advisor-lands-infowars-gi/). The Washington Times (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times). December 31, 2017.

"The Lost Art of Privacy" (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454677/privacy-digital-age-smart-devices-prompt-reconsideration-timeless-virtue). National Review (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review). December 15, 2017.
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"A Visit to the InfoWars Studios of Alex Jones" (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-visit-to-the-infowars-studios-of-alex-jones-a-1136654.html). Der Spiegel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Spiegel). December 31, 2017.

"Infowars.com Audience Insights – Quantcast" (https://www.quantcast.com/infowars.com?qcLocale=en_US#trafficCard). quantcast.com. Retrieved December 9, 2017.

"Alex Jones, Pizzagate booster and America's most famous conspiracy theorist, explained" (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/28/13424848/alex-jones-infowars-prisonplanet). Vox. Retrieved December 9, 2017.

"I watched Alex Jones give his viewers health advice. Here's what I learned" (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/4/6/15160486/alex-jones-vaccines-autism-gates-fungus-health-conspiracy-theories). Vox.com. Retrieved December 28, 2017.

"Alex Jones doubles down on 'completely fake' Sandy Hook claims" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alex-jones-doubles-completely-fake-sandy-hook-claims-article-1.2878305). Daily News. New York. Retrieved December 29, 2017.

Jackie Wattles, InfoWars' Alex Jones apologizes for saying Chobani supports 'migrant rapists' (http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/17/media/alex-jones-chiobani/index.html), CNN (May 17, 2017)

David Montero, Alex Jones settles Chobani lawsuit and retracts comments about refugees in Twin Falls, Idaho (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-chobani-alex-jones-20170517-story.html), Los Angeles Times (May 17, 2017).

"Don't get fooled by these fake news sites" (https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dont-get-fooled-by-these-fake-news-sites/4/). February 10, 2017

Matthew Odam (December 7, 2017). "How Austin's East Side Pies became target of fake #pizzagate" (http://www.mystatesman.com/news/crime--law/how-austin-east-side-pies-became-target-fake-pizzagate/jQJtrr2xVIMNmpWc0IOW5O/). Austin American-Statesman.

"InfoWars is a den of racism and harassment: ex-staffers" (https://nypost.com/2018/02/28/infowars-is-a-den-of-racism-and-harassment-ex-staffers/). New York Post. 2018-03-01. Retrieved 2018-03-01.

Relman, Eliza (June 19, 2017). "How a public-access broadcaster from Austin, Texas, became a major conspiracy theorist and one of Trump's most vocal supporters" (http://www.businessinsider.com/alex-jones-bio-conspiracy-trump-megyn-kelly-2017-6). Business Insider. Retrieved January 17, 2018.

"Free Speech Systems, Llc" (https://companiestx.com/company/32034156953/free-speech-systems-llc). companiestx.com. Retrieved January 6, 2018.

"FBI investigating if right-wing sites had role in campaign hacks" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fbi-investigating-right-wing-sites-role-campaign-hack-article-1.3004192). Daily News. New York. Retrieved January 2, 2018.

"The live-streamers who are challenging traditional journalism" (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/the-live-streamers-who-are-challenging-traditional-journalism). The New Yorkers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Yorkers). December 11, 2017

"Top InfoWars editor criticizes Trump after anti-Muslim tweets" (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/362288-top-infowars-editor-criticizes-trump-after-anti-muslim-tweets). The Hill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)). November 29, 2017.

"The Conspiracy Bureau: Alex Jones Teams Up With Jerome Corsi for White House Coverage" (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/02/02/conspiracy-bureau-alex-jones-teams-jerome-corsi-white-house-coverage). Southern Poverty Law Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center). February 2, 2017.

"Conspiracy outlet InfoWars was granted temporary White House press credentials" (http://uk.businessinsider.com/infowars-granted-white-house-press-credentials-2017-5). Business Insider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider). May 22, 2017.

Glendinning, Lee (October 7, 2008). "Author of anti-Barack Obama book detained in Kenya" (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/oct/07/uselections2008.kenya). The Guardian. London. Retrieved August 2, 2008.

"Mike Cernovich, conspiracy theorist praised by Trump Jr., lands InfoWars gig with Alex Jones" (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/4/mike-cernovich-conspiracy-theorist-praised-by-trum/). The Washington Times (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times).

"Right-wing troll Mike Cernovich goes professional with new hosting gig at InfoWars" (http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/03/media/mike-cernovich-infowars-alex-jones/index.html). CNN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN). May 3, 2017.

Paul P. Murphy and Gianluca Mezzofiore (March 3, 2018). "Advertisers flee InfoWars founder Alex Jones' YouTube channel" (http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/03/technology/youtube-ads-infowars-alex-jones/index.html). Money.cnn.com (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money.cnn.com). Retrieved March 4, 2018.

YouTube removes 'hate speech' videos from InfoWars (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44965160), BBC News (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_News)

"Alex Jones slammed with 30-day ban from Facebook for hateful videos [Update]" (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/alex-jones-slammed-with-30-day-ban-from-facebook-for-hateful-videos/). Ars Technica. Retrieved 2018-07-29

Riley, Charles (August 6, 2018). "YouTube, Apple and Facebook remove content from InfoWars and Alex Jones" (https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/06/technology/facebook-infowars-alex-jones/index.html). CNN Money. Retrieved August 6, 2018.

"Contact » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!" (https://www.infowars.com/contact/). infowars.com. Retrieved December 10, 2017.

"Former Infowars staffers filed a formal complaint against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones alleging anti-Semitism, racism, and sexual misconduct" (http://www.businessinsider.com/alex-jones-infowars-employees-complaint-about-sexual-harassment-2018-2). Business Insider. Retrieved 2018-03-01.

"Alex Jones Accused of Sexual Harassment, Bullying at InfoWars" (https://www.thedailybeast.com/alex-jones-accused-of-sexual-harassment-bullying-at-infowars). The Daily Beast. 2018-02-28. Retrieved 2018-03-01.

"Alex Jones accused of sexual harassment, racism and anti-Semitism" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alex-jones-accused-sexual-harassment-racism-anti-semitism-article-1.3848193). NY Daily News. Retrieved 2018-03-26.

Hayden, Michael Edison (October 3, 2017). "Alt-right conspiracy theories blame Antifa for the mass shooting in Las Vegas" (http://www.newsweek.com/alt-right-conspiracy-theories-blame-antifa-mass-shooting-las-vegas-677075). Newsweek. Retrieved February 9, 2018.

"Alex Jones' Mis-Infowars: 7 Bat-Sh*t Conspiracy Theories" (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/alex-jones-mis-infowars-7-bat-sht-conspiracy-theories-w467509/former-fox-news-host-glenn-beck-is-a-cia-operative-w468041). Retrieved December 30, 2017.

"Alex Jones says 9/11, the Sandy Hook shooting and the Boston Marathon bombing were "false flag" operations" (http://www.newsweek.com/who-alex-jones-his-top-five-conspiracy-theories-ahead-nbc-megyn-kelly-626633). Newsweek. June 16, 2017. Retrieved December 30, 2017.

Grynbaum, Michael M. (October 9, 2017). "Las Vegas Massacre Gives InfoWars More Conspiracy Fodder" (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/business/media/las-vegas-massacre-infowars-conspiracy.html). The New York Times. ISSN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Serial_Number) 0362-4331 (https://www.worldcat.org/issn/0362-4331). Retrieved December 30, 2017.

Finnegan, William (June 23, 2016). "Donald Trump and the "Amazing" Alex Jones" (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/donald-trump-and-the-amazing-alex-jones). The New Yorker. ISSN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Serial_Number) 0028-792X (https://www.worldcat.org/issn/0028-792X). Retrieved December 30, 2017.

"No, Armed Protests Are Not Normal in Austin" (https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2014-03-12/no-armed-protests-are-not-normal-in-austin/). Retrieved December 30, 2017.

Crilly, Rob (April 18, 2017). "Fake news itself, not just Alex Jones, is on trial in his custody case" (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/18/fake-news-not-just-alex-jones-trial-custody-case/) – via The Daily Telegraph.

"The FBI are 'investigating the role of Breitbart in spreading fake news with bots'" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-breitbart-investigate-alt-right-wing-websites-fake-news-bots-donald-trump-a7641826.html). March 21, 2017.

Aaron Cooper (24 May 2018). "Alex Jones, 'InfoWars' host, sued by 6 more Sandy Hook families" (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/us/alex-jones-sandy-hook-suit/index.html). CNN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN). Retrieved 26 May 2018

Emily Shugerman (25 May 2018). "US shock jock Alex Jones sued by six more families of Sandy Hook victims" (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alex-jones-sued-sandy-hook-victims-families-defamation-infowars-a8368346.html). The Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent). Retrieved 26 May 2018.

Josh Hafner (23 May 2018). "Sandy Hook families suing Alex Jones aren't the only ones to threaten conspiracy theorist" (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/24/sandy-hook-families-sue-infowars-alex-jones-over-conspiracy-theory/641159002/). USA Today (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Today). Retrieved 26 May 2018.

Dave Collins (23 May 2018). "More families of Sandy Hook victims, FBI agent sue Infowars' Alex Jones" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-20180523-story.html). Associated Press (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press) Chicago Tribune (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tribune). Retrieved 26 May 2018.

"YouTube Pulls Alex Jones Video Saying Parkland Victims Were Actors" (http://fortune.com/2018/02/24/youtube-pulls-alex-jones-infowars-video/). Fortune. Retrieved 2018-02-28.

James Doubek (March 26, 2017). "Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Promoting Comet Ping Pong 'Pizzagate' Fabrication" (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/26/521545788/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-apologizes-for-promoting-pizzagate). NPR.

Lytvynenko, Jane (November 8, 2017). "InfoWars Has Republished More Than 1,000 Articles From RT Without Permission" (https://www.buzzfeed.com/janelytvynenko/infowars-is-running-rt-content/). BuzzFeed News (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News).

"Facebook suspends US conspiracy theorist Alex Jones" (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/27/facebook-suspends-us-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones).

"Facebook, Apple, YouTube and Spotify ban Infowars' Alex Jones" (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/06/apple-removes-podcasts-infowars-alex-jones). The Guardian. August 14, 2018. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Zhao, Christina (August 14, 2018). "Vimeo Removes Alex Jones's InfoWars Content: 'Discriminatory and Hateful'" (https://www.newsweek.com/vimeo-removes-alex-jones-infowars-profit-discriminatory-hateful-1070036). Newsweek. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Morse, Jack (August 6, 2018). "InfoWars' Pinterest page goes offline after Mashable inquiry" (https://mashable.com/2018/08/06/infowars-pinterest-site-offline/). Mashable. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Lomas, Natasha (August 7, 2018). "MailChimp bans Alex Jones for hateful conduct" (https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/07/mailchimp-bans-alex-jones-for-hateful-conduct/). Techcrunch. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Zhou, Marrian (August 7, 2018). "Alex Jones' Infowars removed from LinkedIn and MailChimp" (https://www.cnet.com/news/alex-jones-infowars-removed-linkedin-pinterest-still-up-on-instagram-twitter/). CNET. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Frej, Willa (August 7, 2018). "Alex Jones' Infowars Still Not Banned On App Stores, Instagram And Twitter" (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alex-Jones-infowars-app-apple-google_us_5b694ec3e4b0de86f4a4bc1d). Huffington Post. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Chan, Kelvin (August 8, 2018). "Twitter CEO defends decision not to ban Alex Jones, Infowars" (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-twitter-alex-jones-infowars-20180808-story.html). Chicago Tribune. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

Darcy, Oliver (August 10, 2018). "Twitter admits InfoWars violated its rules, but says it will remain on the platform" (https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/10/media/infowars-twitter-alex-jones/index.html). CNN. Retrieved August 14, 2018.

"Alex Jones responds to his Twitter ban by posting a 13-minute video to Twitter" (https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/5944zn/alex-jones-twitter-ban-infowars). Vice News. August 15, 2018.

"Twitter suspends conspiracy theorist Alex Jones for one week" (https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/14/media/twitter-alex-jones/index.html). CNN Money. August 15, 2018.

"Milo Yiannopoulos to Tomi Lahren: the faces of America's young alt-Right pack" (https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/from-milo-yiannopoulos-to-tomi-lahren-meet-the-faces-of-americas-young-altright-pack-a3415301.html). London Evening Standard. December 8, 2016. Retrieved December 15, 2017.

"Radio host protests 'police state' in Ferguson" (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/radio-host-protests-police-state-in-ferguson/article_3bcf8feb-8e2e-5f9e-abad-36f3de24425e.html). St. Louis Post-Dispatch. August 13, 2014. Retrieved December 13, 2017.

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"Rising right-wing star tries to take down Van Jones — but gets taught an epic lesson instead" (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-rising-right-wing-star-tries-to-take-down-van-jones-but-gets-taught-an-epic-lesson-instead/). Raw Story. July 24, 2016. Retrieved December 13, 2017.

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"Girl Swears Out InfoWars Reporter" (https://www.salon.com/2017/09/07/girl-swears-out-infowars-reporter/). Salon. September 7, 2017. Retrieved December 13, 2017.

Oliphant, Vickiie (November 5, 2017). "Antifa rally a 'COMPLETE FLOP': Anti-Trump protestors OUTNUMBERED by supporters" (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/875799/Antifa-protests-flop-Anti-Donald-Trump-protests-USA-outnumbered-supporters). Daily Express. Retrieved December 28, 2017.

Kang, Inkoo (3 November 2017). "Antifa Is Clickbait for Conspiracy Theorists" (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2017/11/conspiracy_theorists_are_obsessed_with_nov_4_and_antifa_because_it_s_clickbait.html). Slate. Retrieved 24 February 201

[norman]

Alex Jones lays out the president’s game plan to fight back against the corporate censorship of conservatives ahead of the midterms.


https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/president-trump14627.jpg


https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-see-trumps-battle-plan-to-stop-big-tech-censorship-and-election-meddling/

There are 2 Twitter videos at the link that I can't embed here.

[ThePythonicCow]

There is a whole page about infowars dot com at Wikipedia.

It's a complete hit piece from start to finish.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars

Somebody has been working hard on the page. Nearly all the references are from 2018 or 2017.

Good grief - what a hatchet job :).

[Hervé]

How can YOU Fight the ‘Fake News’ Filter? (https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/how-can-you-fight-the-fake-news-filter/)


Working around Google's Recommend Engine

By Joris De Draeck (https://www.fort-russ.com/author/joris-de-draeck/) On Aug 24, 2018

We are all very much aware that Fake News has become a big thing (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=fake%20news,false%20news) ever since Trump (https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/facebooks-fake-news-its-all-about-trump/) took office – as we have written about (http://planetnews.eu/analysis/the-marketeers-success-story-named-fake-news-399/) in the past. It’s been at the forefront of news ever since and Google, as well as Facebook have been investing millions to battle it. Yet the downside is that it also seems to (willfully?) reduce traffic towards honest, alternative channels with some of the biggest ones seeing traffic reduces by up to 63% ever since Google announced (http://fortune.com/2017/04/25/google-search-algorithm-fake-news/) the implementation of its new search algorithm on April 25, 2017. Google does not seem to want to address the complaints (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/25/pers-a25.html), so here is what you can do to retrieve the alternative news articles you are interested in.

State of Affairs
Contrary to some talking points of conservative punditry, the clamp-down isn’t just affecting those on the ‘right’, conservatives, or pro-Trump, alt-right, or alt-light websites.

Since April, notable ‘progressive’ alternative news sites have seen traffic drop. According to an open letter to Google published (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/25/pers-a25.html) on the World Socialist Website (https://www.wsws.org), various sites have been impacted as such:


alternet.org fell by 63 percent
globalresearch.ca fell by 62 percent
consortiumnews.com fell by 47 percent
mediamatters.org fell by 42 percent
commondreams.org fell by 37 percent
internationalviewpoint.org fell by 36 percent
democracynow.org fell by 36 percent
wikileaks.org fell by 30 percent
truth-out.org fell by 25 percent
counterpunch.org fell by 21 percent
theintercept.com fell by 19 percent

That’s all the tip of the iceberg, as other publications likely have seen similar drops in traffic. As we address this topic in August 2018, we have seen Alex Jones’s Infowars banned from YouTube, Facebook and Spotify. We had Venezuelanalysis’s and TeleSur English’s Facebook pages (temporarily) seen suspended. Peter Van Buren’s been blocked on Twitter, as was Janice Kortkamp, David Simon, Scott Horson, Daniel McAdams and Caitlin Johnstone.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/how-can-you-fight-the-fake-news-filter/ (https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/how-can-you-fight-the-fake-news-filter/)

FRN (Fort Russ News, media wing of the Center for Syncretic Studies, Belgrade, Serbia (https://www.fort-russ.com)) believes this to be pure censorship. FRN was hit long before these sites, because FRN broke stories on the atrocities the US was carrying out through its Kiev Junta in Ukraine, since 2014. Some of these sites, in fact, were late to covering those stories right, and others, to this day, seem ‘confused’. That just means that being a part-time gate-keeper (democracy now, the intercept) won’t save you from censorship. This is all a silencing of a dissenting voice, but there’s ways around it. Read on…

The easy fix
The exact length of a search query you can Google with, is not entirely clear. Some sources (http://www.softwaretestingtricks.com/2007/05/testing-google-boundary-value.html) mention 2,048 being the limit, while others mention it depends on the browser used and others still go into a lot of technical mumbo-jumbo to explain the details (https://support.google.com/gsa/answer/4411411?vid=0-1414300617696-1508786647988#requests). As browsers often allow more characters in the address bar, so we’ll take 2,048 as the conservative boundary. Going after Google’s search box limitations is not the goal of this article anyhow.

With this, and the usage of Google’s search operators, it’s easy to create a “fake news filter” which instructs Google to only return results from specific sites. So, if you’d want results about the April 2017 Khan Shaykhun chemical attack, disregarding what the collection of mainstream media brings as they all bring the same version anyway. If you only want information from the sources mentioned above, the search query would be:


Khan Shaykhun (site:fort-russ.com OR site:alternet.org OR site:globalresearch.ca OR site:consortiumnews.com OR site:mediamatters.org OR site:commondreams.org OR site:internationalviewpoint.org OR site:democracynow.org OR site:wikileaks.org OR site:truth-out.org OR site:counterpunch.org OR site:theintercept.com OR site:planetnews.eu)Mind that it is important to write “OR” in capital letters and to provide the search directive “site:” before each site you wish to include.

Some of us use Firefox’s Note (https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/notes/) (experimental) sidebar to keep the list above ready at hand. It makes for an easy copy/paste addition to any query you enter in Google’s censored engine. While we are at it. Should you want to make this Fake News Filter into a Firefox or Chrome extension, give us a holler.

[norman]

This is a test to see if this Alex Jones video will embed properly here. He's still going, on a different hosting site.



https://www.pscp.tv/w/1PlJQrQZgjkxE




Nope, but the link will probably work if you click it.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

There is a whole page about infowars dot com at Wikipedia.

Wikipedia has never been as impartial and open as it's claimed to be.

InfoGalactic (https://infogalactic.com/info/Main_Page) is the alternative under development, but it's still just a baby by comparison.

There are lots of examples of Wikipedia doing shady stuff. Pages are created and edited by people with conflicts of interest and then locked so no one else can edit them, they don't tolerate "conspiracy theories" even when they're just statements of simple fact, they've openly sided by Big Pharma against even describing popular alternative treatments for things. One day we'll probably learn it was created by some CIA or Mossad types just like Google and Twitter and a lot of other big tech platforms.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Norman...the link DID work....surprise, surprise!! :clapping:

[PurpleLama]

http://theduran.com/leaked-49-page-memo-documents-how-george-soros-is-behind-social-media-censorship/

[Tintin]

http://theduran.com/leaked-49-page-memo-documents-how-george-soros-is-behind-social-media-censorship/

Brilliant find - thank you :thumbsup:

[Hervé]

Glad to see this is finally catching on, see this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95841-Accurate-And-Effective-Profiling-And-Social-Engineering-From-Big-Data-...-Down-To-An-Individual-Scale-&p=1216553&viewfull=1#post1216553

[norman]

I didn't know that thing had been around for so long.


I had a surprise today. Ann Coulter is a guest on Alex Jones's Show. It sounds like she's been banned and dumped too.


https://media.salon.com/2014/08/ann_coulter6.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

Judas Glenn Back misrepresents Alex Jones and defends him at the same time!
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Silicon Valley is doing the same thing to Alex Jones that the government and mainstream media has done to the middle of this country for years. In trying to punish him, they are actually proving him right.

Source: TheBlaze (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKgJEs_v0JB-6jWb8lIy9Xw)

[Nick Matkin]

Oh dear. Poor Alex...

Eagle-eyed viewers have questioned Alex Jones, after he appeared to unwittingly reveal watching transgender-themed porn.

How is he going to explain this away? Ah yes. Necessary for research, or the MSM manipulating images...

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/08/27/infowars-host-alex-jones-caught-looking-at-transgender-porn-despite-anti-trans-rants/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Buffer&utm_campaign=PN

[KiwiElf]

Just in... "Q" post #1948 - see Twitter link in post: (cross posted)

https://qanon.app/
-------------------------------------------------------------
1948

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 20cc45 No.2769078 📁
Aug 28 2018 14:34:03 (EST)
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1034522244121276416
Q
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Trump: "Google has taken advantage of a lot of people...if you look at what is going on at Twitter, look at what is going on in Facebook, they better be careful..Google and Twitter and Facebook, they're really treading on troubled territory"

[norman]

Oh dear. Poor Alex...

Eagle-eyed viewers have questions Alex Jones, after he appeared to unwittingly reveal watching transgender-themed porn.

How is he going to explain this away? Ah yes. Necessary for research, or the MSM manipulating images...

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/08/27/infowars-host-alex-jones-caught-looking-at-transgender-porn-despite-anti-trans-rants/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Buffer&utm_campaign=PN


He doesn't have to explain anything away.

That he knows what he's talking about comes as no surprise to me.

And by the way, I completely agree with him about leaving the children out of it. What adults get up to is one thing, but messing with children's heads is right out of order.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2018/08/social-media-vs-the-constitution/

This article seems to be moving in the direction Norman has been pointing....

[norman]

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2018/08/social-media-vs-the-constitution/

This article seems to be moving in the direction Norman has been pointing....





. . . . . . .snip . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Judge Buchwald has opened that door by declaring Trump’s Twitter account a public forum. That speaks to the status of Twitter -and Facebook et al- in American society. She can’t take that back.



mmmm . . . . . . interesting.

[norman]

https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/9-6-17-rogan.jpg
Alex Jones will be appearing on Joe Rogan’s podcast late September.

[KiwiElf]

The White House has a petition to allow the internet to be free from banning.

White House Petition - Protect Free Speech in the Digital Public Square
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/protect-free-speech-digital-public-square-0

(Cross posted)

[Nick Matkin]

And it gets worse for poor Alex. No doubt it's the elite who are just encircling him now and engineering his demise.

But he hasn't denied he had porn on his phone. Just that it was intrusive advertising pop-ups or something "that everyone gets"...

"Technology expert destroys Alex Jones’ transgender porn excuses – and reveals he had two videos open" (https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/09/03/transgender-porn-alex-jones-technology-expert-destroys-excuses-reveals-two-videos/)

If the content of the article and the analysis by the IT specialist is accurate, seems AJ may be circling the drain now. Ho hum.

But maybe one of his supporters could help him out? Seems there's plenty out there...

[James Newell]

Oh Oh we better convict him for looking at porn.
Boy they are watching him close aren't they.

[Nick Matkin]

Oh Oh we better convict him for looking at porn.
Boy they are watching him close aren't they.

Watching that kind of porn is not an arrestable offence. But he's been banging on about the evil people that he's watching in porn. It presents him as a hypocrite if nothing else.

So what else has he lied about? Anyone like to start as list?

Ah yes. He's getting too close to the Truth so They're out to get him. :facepalm:

[Daozen]

Personally I think this is an establishment publicity stunt designed to make Jones look like a rebellious hero. I'm against censorship in all it's forms. But I don't think he lost any viewers. Infowars apps are available on the Apple store and Google play. Both Apple and Google are corporate behemoths. They could've banned Jones, but they didn't. In fact, his app got record downloads. I think that was the plan the whole time. Now Jones looks like the forbidden fruit. Oh! Drama!!!

Is a radio host who supports Trump really an enemy of the establishment? Or their greatest friend?

He's been crying that the sky will fall in for 20 years now. It hasn't yet. Is someone who keeps listeners in a state of short term panic a real threat to the system?

The emperor has no clothes. but watch him dance if you must. Everyone needs a dopamine rush sometimes.

[Valerie Villars]

The emperor has no clothes. but watch him dance if you must. Everyone needs a dopamine rush sometimes.


It's a practical reality of our world. It's the only reason I pay attention. That is my own personal reason. I lived in the other place, but in this one, we are subject to ridiculous forces that we have to understand. We can't circumvent them YET. Interacting at this level requires vigilance.

[James Newell]

It's a weak attempt to make him look like he's losing. It appears in reality that he's doing better since they banned him- kinda amazing when you think of it. Any publicity is better than no publicity it appears.
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoJMVjlnjoxQ

[James Newell]

Alex Jones in congress confronting the people trying to take away our freedom of speech rights. You gotta love it...

https://www.infowars.com/sen-ron-wyden-flees-after-confronted-by-alex-jones-on-censorship/

[Valerie Villars]

Loved (not) the woman who kept saying, about Alex Jones, "Why are you giving this guy airtime? Don't give this guy air time."

Yes, because if you pretend like he doesn't exist, then he doesn't exist. It doesn't work like that lady.

Good for Alex showing up at those hearings. All talk and all action.

[norman]

A few glimpses of Alex's trip to Washington.


https://www.infowars.com/highlights-alex-jones-vs-big-tech-showdown/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Alex is being attacked on all fronts, it seems. Most of the links at infowars, even internal links to podcasts and live streams, are being systematically shut down. When clicking on a link, the message cannot recognize format comes up or sometimes just do not recognize player. And now signing up for newsletter gives only the error message, something went wrong and it's not your fault.

I feel like a criminal trying to access data I've no right to, when in fact it is the very opinion and its ideology that is under attack by nefarious types with god complexes. I share that opinion and the ideology, at least to an extent, and that makes me a criminal by association.

What a piece of work that Rubio is, trying to pretend like he doesn't even know who Alex Jones is, or what infowars is. He is such a patsy and he will pay the price - fool that he is.

The thing that is being unravelled is the fact that mainstream media has been the propaganda mouthpiece for the US government and its official position and spin since the days of Walter Cronkite, possibly even earlier. Now as the governments of the free world are loosing their rhetorical war and their purveyors of lies and deceit loose their influence and the trust of the people...the truth is leaking out and they cannot have that. Pretty soon the rhetoric will turn against them and they cannot have that happen either. That is why the Democrats and a lot of Conservatives too are pulling out all the stops in the battle for the minds of the people. But they are so out of touch with the middle, the majority, the actual true Americans - those with documents not handed out at the border or at sanctuary cities - that by the time this is all over there will be many fresh new faces in power positions, assuming the left does not destroy everything first, that is.

[Valerie Villars]

I live on the front of some property owned by "the actual true Americans" who are multi generational farmers. Really hardworking, simple folk. I almost fell off my chair when this very soft-spoken woman who still hangs her clothes out to dry, told me she knows all about what's happening and the Illuminatti.

The message is getting out and the people aren't stupid. Anyone with half a brain can see there is something very wrong with our world. We've been deceived for a long time. It's time to part the curtains. The jig is up.

People are aware.

[Foxie Loxie]

Here's a cute one! This a.m. my hairdresser said she was doing the hair of an elderly woman yesterday who asked her, "Are you a Democrat?"

"No", replied my hairdresser, to which the little old lady replied, "Good! I can TALK to you!" :ROFL: Isn't this sad, that the Trump Derangement Syndrome has so divided the country that we don't even dare talk to each other?!

It's not about Trump....it's not about "Q"....it's about restoring Rule of Law!

[James Newell]

People are waking up exponentially. This is good! Awake people are ALIVE people.

[Innocent Warrior]

Make that YouTube, Facebook, Apple, Spotify, Twitter and Periscope.

Tweeted six hours ago by @TwitterSafety HERE (https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1037804427992686593?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet),


Today, we permanently suspended @realalexjones and @infowars from Twitter and Periscope. We took this action based on new reports of Tweets and videos posted yesterday that violate our abusive behavior policy, in addition to the accounts’ past violations.

Twitter permanently bans Alex Jones and Infowars show for 'abusive behaviour' (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-07/twitter-permanently-bans-infowars-host-alex-jones/10212164)

The video that got him banned, reportedly -

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[James Newell]

Yes, but it must of felt sooo good doing it. And now they must Teach him a lesson. So this is how the NWO operates.

[Innocent Warrior]

James, I think it was PurpleLama that wrote something similar, earlier in this thread; this looks like preparation for the midterms. Jones/Info Wars and Assange/WikiLeaks were instrumental in informing the public about Clinton, both have since been taught their lessons.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Just to highlight some differences between these oligarchs and thier out of touch behavoir.
I spend about 5% of my income on charity and for supporting good works like Avalon. 5% of my income is about $200 a monthb net. If bufoon Zuckerberg did the same...based on income for first half of this year...to match my donations he would have to donate about $500,000,000 per month! Yet he and his kind feel generous with a mesely donstion of a million here and a million there, insignificant totals measured against their true wealth. Bunch of hypocrites...

[RunningDeer]

(((CENSORED))) Paul Joseph Watson suspended by Twitter

UPDATE: his Twitter page (https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) appears to be active. (ATM) I’ve never had an account, so I’m not familiar with how suspension (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=twitter+suspension+policy&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) works.



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Published on Sep 7, 2018

- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov

[norman]

The second boot drops, Obama hits the campaign trail

Former President Barack Obama (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/BarackObama) is hitting the campaign trail in California (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/California) and Ohio (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/Ohio) ahead of the 2018 midterm elections (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/2018-midterm-elections).
His efforts will be focused on helping Democrats (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/democrats) in Orange County, California, a Republican (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/republicans) stronghold in the liberal state, as well as lending a hand in the Ohio governor race - all while competing against endorsements and tweets from Donald Trump (http://independent.co.uk/topic/donaldtrump).


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/barack-obama-2018-midterm-elections-california-orange-county-ohio-richard-cordray-a8524786.html

[norman]

Oh waw, Steve Pieczenik has just opened a can of worms.


He says Bob Woodward, John Bolton, Mike Pence and the New York Times are organising a coup.


He also says ( remember he has intel' roots ) that John Bolton, Bush Junior and Donald Trump have history together with a New York Swingers club. It might be how John Bolton got so close to Trump.




MP3
https://app.box.com/s/o060c8ykmdfpl16m8zd7beql186n0007

[Jayke]

Oh waw, Steve Pieczenik has just opened a can of worms.

He says John Woodward, John Bolton, Mike Pence and the New York Times are organising a coup.

He also says ( remember he has intel' roots ) that John Bolton, Bush Junior and Donald Trump have history together with a New York Swingers club. It might be how John Bolton got so close to Trump.

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/o060c8ykmdfpl16m8zd7beql186n0007

In the interview above, Alex Jones introduces Steve Pieczenik as head of psychological operations for the State Department!?!

That caught my attention because Cynthia McKinney dropped a tweet a while back saying she believed Steve Pieczenik IS Q! Whether she got that idea through her own intelligence channels or just from the youtubers online who have made the same connection, I don’t know.

...But I have been following him on twitter ever since. :sherlock:

Good find Norman, thanks for the update.

[Mari]

.

The thing that is being unravelled is the fact that mainstream media has been the propaganda mouthpiece for the US government and its official position and spin since the days of Walter Cronkite, possibly even earlier. Now as the governments of the free world are loosing their rhetorical war and their purveyors of lies and deceit loose their influence and the trust of the people...the truth is leaking out and they cannot have that. Pretty soon the rhetoric will turn against them and they cannot have that happen either. That is why the Democrats and a lot of Conservatives too are pulling out all the stops in the battle for the minds of the people. But they are so out of touch with the middle, the majority, the actual true Americans - those with documents not handed out at the border or at sanctuary cities - that by the time this is all over there will be many fresh new faces in power positions, assuming the left does not destroy everything first, that is.

Same over here -elite are beginning to pull out all the stops. A Cornered Rat is a very apt analogy here, in that its a dangerous creature & will throw whatever it must at its 'opponents' in order to survive. Things can only get (much) worse folks!

[Foxie Loxie]

AND.....then much better!! :happythumbsup:

[Mari]

Just to highlight some differences between these oligarchs and thier out of touch behavoir.
I spend about 5% of my income on charity and for supporting good works like Avalon. 5% of my income is about $200 a monthb net. If bufoon Zuckerberg did the same...based on income for first half of this year...to match my donations he would have to donate about $500,000,000 per month! Yet he and his kind feel generous with a mesely donstion of a million here and a million there, insignificant totals measured against their true wealth. Bunch of hypocrites...


How about this from RT - a 'comedy' sketch demonstrating what personal wealth - like the wealth enjoyed by Amazon boss Jeff Bezos, could do for the world's problems...
https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/437959-america-world-hunger-surveillance/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Just to highlight some differences between these oligarchs and thier out of touch behavoir.
I spend about 5% of my income on charity and for supporting good works like Avalon. 5% of my income is about $200 a monthb net. If bufoon Zuckerberg did the same...based on income for first half of this year...to match my donations he would have to donate about $500,000,000 per month! Yet he and his kind feel generous with a mesely donstion of a million here and a million there, insignificant totals measured against their true wealth. Bunch of hypocrites...


How about this from RT - a 'comedy' sketch demonstrating what personal wealth - like the wealth enjoyed by Amazon boss Jeff Bezos, could do for the world's problems...
https://www.rt.com/shows/redacted-tonight-summary/437959-america-world-hunger-surveillance/

Very Funny, Mari. And accurate. Wish I had such a wit. I could really get this point across better...

[Mari]

AND.....then much better!! :happythumbsup:


Agreed, Foxie!:happythumbsup:

[justntime2learn]

It certainly looks like the YouTube ban is costing lives !

From the 18 to 19 minute mark, Dutch talks about fatalities that may have been averted if people had been warned .

He offers a little more insight in that minute .

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[Hervé]

YouTube censures Syrian government channels (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202855.html)



Voltaire Network | 10 September 2018 http://www.voltairenet.org/squelettes/elements/images/ligne-rouge.gif


français (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202843.html)Español (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202846.html) italiano (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202851.html)عربي (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202859.html) Deutsch (http://www.voltairenet.org/article202866.html)






http://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L400xH250/arton202855-f06ef.jpg

On 8 September 2018, the company YouTube (owned by the Internet giant Google) shut down the channels of the Syrian government including the channel of the Syrian President, the Syrian Minister of Defence as well as Sana, the Syrian government press agency.

YouTube has not given the reasons for its decision.

These channels have been around for several years. As they have different programs, the decision for this collective censure cannot be content-based. It must be exclusively based on account of their publisher: the Syrian Arab Republic’s government.

The United States is threatening to make an attack on Syria in the not too distant future. The Pentagon has already presented President Trump with a plan for bombing the country. This plan includes the destruction of radio and broadcasting establishments. If a Western attack should occur, then the Syrian government would be unable to communicate with its people and externally.

Translation: Anoosha Boralessa (http://www.voltairenet.org/auteur126167.html?lang=en)

[avid]

For years now, this blatant regime-change agenda has been promoted by MSM lying, truth-evasion, et al, just like Libya....
However, there are some who can see the globalist banksters agenda, and have tried to prevent the annihilation of Syria. Still ongoing, the lies and counter-lies prevail daily, and looking back on obviously faked videos of ‘gas victims’ choking on shaving foam, then laughing afterwards are still being replicated. My friend’s family has endured their beautiful country being trashed for what?... a pipeline, access to other areas? This is totally despicable, and as we are more awake we can now say to the globalists enough is enough. Syrians are NOT pawns in their game, as are Palestinians pawns in this ‘anti-semitic’ game played by Israelis, who hide behind religion. Every day in MSM diatribe tries to persuade us the ‘west’ should right a wrong, when in fact, the wrong is being perpetrated by the globalist western dark alliances - for profit.

[norman]

Alex Jones on fire . . . no bragging . . . just urgency to wake the hell up choose which side you're on.



EMERGENCY REPORT

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General Shepherd (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDeIsRvfOMXCFvxl2ydF9Jw)
Published on 9 Sep 2018

[download this video fast - it will vanish]

Spread this video on all platforms!!!

[Watching from Cyprus]

I didn't listen to Alex since the Trump seemed to turn his back on him and he lost credibility. That was not my reason not to listen but the stress in his voice... simply made me feel sick. This broadcast touches me inside so much that i see what he is saying.. Maybe we are in a vacuum examination centre being filtered to either pass or fail. I do believe in "The Lost Book of Enki" and would always say that The God & Jesus story is nonsense, BUT again I believe the story of Michel Desmarquet "the Thiaoouba (Yehova) Prophecy" is true, and in Michel's story where he is shown the body of Christ on the beautiful planet (or dimension heaven/garden of eden) Thiaoouba... The actual body which hosted the volunteer soul to be going to Earth to become Jesus knowing what would come to pass.... I hereby repent to have rejected Jesus and the supreme Creator of Love and Kindness..
Us who are half way in this life, will see it all unfold but only if we lift our heads out of the hole in the ground an think about what we put into our bodies... how many of you here on this forum are still drinking fluoridated water or brushing your teeth with colgate or other poisonous toothpaste.. or chewing sugar free gum believing it is tooth friendly... Aspartame really shrinks your brain ... and you won't even notice..why!! because you have become dumb.. bye bye..

It is now to really wake up..

I love all you good people....
Thanks Bill Ryan.. you are a Good man
Peter

[justntime2learn]

Alex Jones on fire . . . no bragging . . . just urgency to wake the hell up choose which side you're on.



EMERGENCY REPORT

sQl2FgjQ5_s

General Shepherd (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDeIsRvfOMXCFvxl2ydF9Jw)
Published on 9 Sep 2018

[download this video fast - it will vanish]

Spread this video on all platforms!!!

Thanks for the heads up Norman !

Oh my, it did vanish fast. I'm glad I decided to listen and not save it for later. I was able to get through the whole thing and 20 minutes later it was gone.

[Foxie Loxie]

Was anyone able to save the video?

[justntime2learn]

Was anyone able to save the video?

Hi Foxy and all,

I just watched it on my phone and wasn't able to download it.

There are several people I know that want to see it and would also be interested in getting a recording.

My better half said she caught the very end on C-Span if that helps anyone.

Cheers, J

[RunningDeer]

Was anyone able to save the video?

I'm guessing it's this from 2 days ago. I didn't catch Norman's video to compare. I'll see if I can find a YouTube copy to add here. Share this emergency Live Report! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead of Trump Assassination (https://www.real.video/5832581045001)




Alex Jones breaks down how the Democrat-captured tech companies are initiating a digital martial law situation to limit the ability of conservatives to communicate ahead of the Deep State’s desperate plan to assassinate President Donald Trump.



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Internet Martial Law Initiated - As Haunting Fears of Assassination Enflame… (7 minutes)
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https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Emergency Live Report! Internet Martial Law before Trump Assassination (2 hours)
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[justntime2learn]

Was anyone able to save the video?

I'm guessing it's this from 2 days ago. I didn't catch Norman's video to compare. I'll see if I can find a YouTube copy to add here. Share this emergency Live Report! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead of Trump Assassination (https://www.real.video/5832581045001)

Hi Paula,

At a glance it does look like the video, however it's about 45 minutes shorter than the video Norman posted.

[norman]

Was anyone able to save the video?

I'm guessing it's this from 2 days ago. I didn't catch Norman's video to compare. I'll see if I can find a YouTube copy to add here. Share this emergency Live Report! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead of Trump Assassination (https://www.real.video/5832581045001)

Hi Paula,

At a glance it does look like the video, however it's about 45 minutes shorter than the video Norman posted.


It's missing the 45 minutes of raw dynamite Alex Jones press conference in Washington.


Watch the face of the woman reporter in the orange dress, Her jaw is on her collar almost throughout, I think he woke her up good n proper.


0RoOLml9Anw




Again, grab it super fast. I'm concerned that there are active agents patrolling forums like this one watching threads like this for posts of videos, and hot-line informing youtube in minutes. Hell, I won't be the slightest bit surprised if we have a couple of them resident here right now.

[Bill Ryan]

Was anyone able to save the video?

Yes, I've got it. (61 mins, 113 Mb)

The title is EMERGENCY REPORT! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead Of Trump Assassination


http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4

Thanks to norman for the heads-up. :highfive: I took his advice and downloaded it immediately.

[justntime2learn]

Was anyone able to save the video?

I'm guessing it's this from 2 days ago. I didn't catch Norman's video to compare. I'll see if I can find a YouTube copy to add here. Share this emergency Live Report! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead of Trump Assassination (https://www.real.video/5832581045001)

Hi Paula,

At a glance it does look like the video, however it's about 45 minutes shorter than the video Norman posted.


It's missing the 45 minutes of raw dynamite Alex Jones press conference in Washington.


Watch the face of the woman reporter in the orange dress, Her jaw is on her collar almost throughout, I think he woke her up good n proper.


0RoOLml9Anw




Again, grab it super fast. I'm concerned that there are active agents patrolling forums like this one watching threads like this for posts of videos, and hot-line informing youtube in minutes. Hell, I won't be the slightest bit surprised if we have a couple of them resident here right now.

Funny you should mention that Norman. I noticed and was asking my better half if she saw the woman in the orange dress. You could see when she "woke up" when her jaw dropped to her neckline and remained . You could see it in her face! After that, She was trying to come up with real questions in the world she just realized she was part of.

[Valerie Villars]

I find the takedown of the Syrian government channels very disturbing. In all my 56 years, I have never seen this level of psychological warfare.

If we all went to carrier pigeons to share information, I feel someone would invent fake carrier pigeons and kill the real ones.

I'm stating the obvious, but I have never, ever seen things this volatile in all of my life.

[norman]

I find the takedown of the Syrian government channels very disturbing. In all my 56 years, I have never seen this level of psychological warfare.

If we all went to carrier pigeons to share information, I feel someone would invent fake carrier pigeons and kill the real ones.

I'm stating the obvious, but I have never, ever seen things this volatile in all of my life.


None of us have Valerie. This is higher than the level of pre war-launch propaganda and deception. As AJ says, when it's this crazy, you just know something bad is about to be sprung on us.


Basically, for those who will not watch/listen to these videos, Apple and Google are in the process of doing a complete runner to merge with the corporation of China. Google refuses to fulfill an agreement to work with the pentagon on military AI but is doing that very thing with the Chinese.



In my estimation, the one world plan may have been abandoned at the very highest level and called off, but the Chinese contingent, having played along as far as getting almost dominant due to the original global plan, then stepped back and said, ok, we don't need the rest of you now, we will finish the job ourselves from here on. They gave Apple and Google offers they couldn't refuse and they are continuing with the global control plan which, of course, all those criminals in the middle, are only too eager to help them do.


Trump's advisors and especially congress are miles behind the curve and Alex Jones hired top law firms to put together documents to brief them all with.



No wonder that woman in the orange top (not dress) is standing there with her mouth open.

[Magnus]

This is an extremely worrying development. Trump and Jones need to ask Putin for help, really! Good people must work together, before it's too late. Trump is the last American president who will be able to make a difference for the better, without Trump, the Nazi wolves will be totally unbridled and go truly berserk.

[James Newell]

IF just ONE person says NO!! It can bust up the machine. Be ONE of the people.

[Valerie Villars]

I find the takedown of the Syrian government channels very disturbing. In all my 56 years, I have never seen this level of psychological warfare.

If we all went to carrier pigeons to share information, I feel someone would invent fake carrier pigeons and kill the real ones.

I'm stating the obvious, but I have never, ever seen things this volatile in all of my life.


None of us have Valerie. This is higher than the level of pre war-launch propaganda and deception. As AJ says, when it's this crazy, you just know something bad is about to be sprung on us.


Basically, for those who will not watch/listen to these videos, Apple and Google are in the process of doing a complete runner to merge with the corporation of China. Google refuses to fulfill an agreement to work with the pentagon on military AI but is doing that very thing with the Chinese.



In my estimation, the one world plan may have been abandoned at the very highest level and called off, but the Chinese contingent, having played along as far as getting almost dominant due to the original global plan, then stepped back and said, ok, we don't need the rest of you now, we will finish the job ourselves from here on. They gave Apple and Google offers they couldn't refuse and they are continuing with the global control plan which, of course, all those criminals in the middle, are only too eager to help them do.


Trump's advisors and especially congress are miles behind the curve and Alex Jones hired top law firms to put together documents to brief them all with.



No wonder that woman in the orange top (not dress) is standing there with her mouth open.

Gulp. Okay. ****. Well, okay. Forewarned is forearmed.

[Bill Ryan]

Was anyone able to save the video?

Yes, I've got it. (61 mins, 113 Mb)

The title is EMERGENCY REPORT! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead Of Trump Assassination


http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4

Thanks to norman for the heads-up. :highfive: I took his advice and downloaded it immediately.

:bump:

I've not finished watching this yet, but I'm bumping this already. It feels extremely important.

[Valerie Villars]

Was anyone able to save the video?

Yes, I've got it. (61 mins, 113 Mb)

The title is EMERGENCY REPORT! Internet Martial Law Initiated Ahead Of Trump Assassination


http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4

Thanks to norman for the heads-up. :highfive: I took his advice and downloaded it immediately.

:bump:

I've not finished watching this yet, but I'm bumping this already. It feels extremely important.

Bill, you have to be serious. If so, this is serious.

[PurpleLama]

So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?

[Valerie Villars]

Why does the above video/mp3 of Alex Jones stop at about the 14 minute mark? I can't get it to go beyond that though it says it is over 1 hour. It just keeps restarting itself after that 14 minute mark.

[norman]

So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?


Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.






I've cherry picked what I think are the most poignant 2 chunks of Monday's A J show, and added a couple of callers who brought up Syria and Q at the end. Without the callers sections it's just over 15 minutes (and worth it)

MP3: 2018-09-10_AJ - The Flight to China, Syria, Q.mp3
https://app.box.com/s/0w09ubsmxinftq4s9a6es56rrl7hkgea

[Foxie Loxie]

Hey, Val...I'm having the same problem??? :confused:

[avid]

Foxie/Valerie Visual download mp3 stopped, but sound carried on, most frustrating.

[norman]

Let me guess, you are using apple devices?


I just checked play and download with windows 7 PC using Firfox. Both functions worked.


I don't kow what to advise. I've had similar complaints from an iphone user about music files I host at the same account at box dot com.


If anyone can suggest a different hosting service that both supports playback and download for free account users and people with links, I'll have a try at that.


Oh wait, I got mixed up there. It's the youtube video you are talking about.


I get problems like that and worse when I try to play videos while I'm on line using Windows XP but things work fine with Win 7.

[Foxie Loxie]

I have a new DELL, Windows 10 & it's the first time I've ever had a problem with a video?

[Bill Ryan]

Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:


http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4

They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.

[Foxie Loxie]

O.K......So the gist of it is that China had taken over the U.S. & our Congress & Senate haven't a clue what is REALLY going on! :facepalm:

Did I get that wrong? Technocrats?

[ThePythonicCow]

So far as a couple of us mods can figure, the audio of the Alex Jones "EMERGENCY REPORT" that Bill posted above in Post #371 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103766-YouTube-Facebook-Apple-and-Spotify-all-ban-Alex-Jones-Infowars&p=1247472&viewfull=1#post1247472) works for the entire hour plus, but the video freezes at the 14:17 mark.

It would not surprise me if some systems freeze the entire thing, audio and video, at 14:17, depending on how well they handle, or don't handle, the errors at the 14:17 mark.

I just alerted Bill ... he might have more to say. However, because Youtube has taken that video down, there is no way known to him to try downloading it again.

===

P.S. -- Aha, as I was leisurely composing this post, Bill already did have more to say, now two posts back :).

[norman]

Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:



http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4


They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.


I have a complete version of it saved. I just checked it at the end, and the video is good all the way.


It's too big for my free box account from where you might have copied it to the library. Can I upload it direct somehow?

it's just over 400 meg.




Until Tuesday 18th, it can be downloaded from wetransfer:


https://we.tl/t-iW1JNBPz7q (https://we.tl/t-iW1JNBPz7q)

[Bill Ryan]

Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:



http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4


They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.

I have a complete version of it saved. I just checked it at the end, and the video is good all the way.

It's too big for my free box account from where you might have copied it to the library. Can I upload it direct somehow?

it's just over 400 meg.

Excellent! :highfive: Send it to my e-mail address (bill@projectavalon.net) by WeTransfer.com (http://WeTransfer.com), and I'll upload it straight away to replace the video-frozen one.

:thumbsup:

[norman]

So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?


Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.





On further consideration, I suppose there's quite a lot of work to do on completing the full 'set' of American rights in the digital world. Cookies are a problem. They have handy functions but they also invade privacy.

[Bill Ryan]

The important (and YouTube-deleted) Alex Jones video that had the video-sticking problems has been re-uploaded (Thx, norman :thumbsup: ) — the link is the same. It's a larger file (419 Mb), and it works fine now.


http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4

[PurpleLama]

So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?


Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.





On further consideration, I suppose there's quite a lot of work to do on completing the full 'set' of American rights in the digital world. Cookies are a problem. They have handy functions but they also invade privacy.

Indeed, the implications for the 4th seem far more extensive an issue than even those around the 1st,

[Sophocles]

The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb2ItwghRA1zrFgMWm4sCQ)") the same day and is still viewable:

XoDUyAjMIHs

[Magnus]

The bullies are ramping up - in a concerted effort!

As AJ said: "THIS IS NO DRILL"

Can the rollout of the totalitarian AI Nazi regime be stopped? I very very much hope so, but how!?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-12/tech-firms-face-hefty-fines-under-new-eu-terror-rules

"Tech Firms Face Hefty Fines Under New EU Terror Rules

Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Twitter Inc., Facebook Inc. and other tech firms could be slapped with fines as high as 4 percent of annual revenue if they fail to remove terror propaganda from their sites quickly enough under new European Union legislative proposals unveiled Wednesday.

The European Commission, the bloc’s executive body, proposed new legislation forcing internet companies to wipe Islamic State videos and other terror content from their services within an hour of notification for removal by national authorities. Companies would be fined by national governments in the event of systematic failures to remove content.

Wednesday’s proposal follows similar guidelines the EU issued in March. The EU at the time threatened to issue the regulation should the tech firms fall short of expectations.

Large tech platforms have made rapid improvements in their efforts to tackle terror content, partly thanks to automated tools, but the EU says some of the platforms have failed to meet the one-hour deadline and need to do more.

"While we have made progress on removing terrorist content online through voluntary efforts, it has not been enough," said Julian King, European commissioner for security policy. "We need to prevent it from being uploaded and, where it does appear, ensure it is taken down as quickly as possible -- before it can do serious damage."

A 4 percent fine would only occur in the event of "systematic failures" in removing content. For Google parent Alphabet that would amount to more than $4.4 billion and more than $1.6 billion for Facebook, according to the 2017 revenues.

Spokeswomen for Google’s YouTube and Facebook both said the companies share the commission’s goal to combat the spread of terrorism content on their platforms.

Automated and machine-learning tools can help tech firms catch any malicious posts. But web firms typically also use human reviewers to look over posts to try to ensure they don’t remove terror content when it’s used in a neutral context, such as by news outlets, whistle-blowers or non-governmental agencies. That can make tight turnaround times a challenge if companies want to ensure they aren’t overly censoring users.

Calling the commission’s proposal "troublesome," Raegan MacDonald, head of EU public policy at Mozilla, said "it would force private companies to play an even greater role in defining acceptable speech online."

The move is part of a wider shift by legislators in Europe and the U.S. to hand more legal responsibility to tech firms for the content that appears on their sites. Also on Wednesday, the European Parliament voted to back copyright rules that would help video, music and other rights holders seek compensation for use of their content online. In the U.S., President Donald Trump signed a law in April making websites liable if they knowingly facilitate sex trafficking.

The EU on Wednesday also called on the companies, member states and Europol to increase their cooperation, including by ensuring that a point of contact at each company and each national authority is reachable 24/7. The tech firms and the EU’s member states will also be required to report back to the commission regularly on the removals of terror content.

The commission proposal still needs approval from the EU’s member states and the European Parliament before it becomes law. EU member states said in late June they welcomed the commission’s intentions to present a legislative proposal in the area."

[Magnus]

The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb2ItwghRA1zrFgMWm4sCQ)") the same day and is still viewable:

XoDUyAjMIHs

The cookie crumbles:

Link 1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180912161716id_/https://r2---sn-n4v7sn7l.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?ratebypass=yes&fvip=2&signature=8815D1F899CABE3BD0E2484F651C291C85312D.1AD2BF85B62BB8F56525C97D548ABB1A7DA2D226&ei=4TuZW4OBKo-F7QS6tp64Cw&itag=18&sparams=clen,dur,ei,expire,gir,id,ip,ipbits,ipbypass,itag,lmt,mime,mip,mm,mn,ms,mv,pl,ratebypass,req uiressl,source&id=o-AAoY9ONBzg_ew6mdnK9TNpVaY5K75N2OVDFULklLJbuq&ipbits=0&c=WEB&requiressl=yes&dur=6637.795&clen=389474305&ip=83.248.243.182&lmt=1536490970094132&expire=1536790593&txp=5431332&key=cms1&gir=yes&source=youtube&mime=video%2Fmp4&pl=20&rm=sn-jvhixh-hhml7l,sn-5gols7l&fexp=23755740&req_id=224849e16904a3ee&redirect_counter=2&cms_redirect=yes&ipbypass=yes&mip=207.241.225.246&mm=29&mn=sn-n4v7sn7l&ms=rdu&mt=1536768129&mv=u)

Link 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180912162733/http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_REPORT_Internet_Martial_Law_Initiated_Ahead_of_Trump_Assassination_Infowars_10_Sept_2018.m p4)

Update: Links have on their own, reverted back to operational mode.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-12/facebook-bans-ex-democrat-walkaway-founder-weeks-march-washington

Founder of the #walkaway movement is banned from facebook.

[Valerie Villars]

FACEBOOK JUST BANNED ME AS I AM PLANNING THE #WalkAway March on Washington!!! I have been banned from posting leading up to the March. This is devastated for our ability to reach people!!! I was banned for mentioning my interview with Alex Jones. Can anybody help???

11:40 AM - Sep 12, 2018


1. I just went through my twitter feed and deleted tweets that contained the name of the man who was recently banned on all platforms and the name of his show- all of them except the tweet I just put out which contained his name along with the message that I’ve been banned.

12:52 PM - Sep 12, 2018
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@usminority
2. This is where we are now. You can have your voice taken away 4 saying a NAME that they don’t want you to say. I will never disappear from Twitter for a day. So if you don’t hear from me for a day or two- they got me on here, too. It is so unbelievable that this is real life.

12:55 PM - Sep 12, 2018


I’m shaking right now. I just went into a camera store to buy a camera and a light and mic, etc. and they recognized me from tv. I was refused service because they said it was for “alt right” purposes. That literally just happened.

4:46 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Brandon Straka

[Foxie Loxie]

What I get with the Links is "Server Didn't Respond in Time"????

[norman]

Yer kno . . . I've just heard a reasonably well made case that losing the mid term elections could actually be very good for Trump in 2020.


The part that reassured me things could be ok even if the left start impeachment is that they have to get it through the Sennett and that's probably never going to happen.


Two years of blood thirsty left madness will hand the 2020 election to Trump on a silver platter. By then, silicon valley will have seen the damage their purge has done to their bottom line. Any money infusions to keep them on script will be observable.


Well, it's a pretty good case.

[Foxie Loxie]

The date of his "march" has already been announced, hasn't it?

[PurpleLama]

The date of his "march" has already been announced, hasn't it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/usminority

Here is his Twitter, if you want to keep up with or look into him, more. Apparently linking to AJ was his unpardonable FB crime.

[Magnus]

What I get with the Links is "Server Didn't Respond in Time"????

I've noticed, it's a new development, the second link now throws an error message stating the video is corrupt while trying to play it within firefox. It worked just fine when I first tried it.

My paranoid mind suspects AI interference.

[Magnus]

Yer kno . . . I've just heard a reasonably well made case that losing the mid term elections could actually be very good for Trump in 2020.


The part that reassured me things could be ok even if the left start impeachment is that they have to get it through the Sennett and that's probably never going to happen.


Two years of blood thirsty left madness will hand the 2020 election to Trump on a silver platter. By then, silicon valley will have seen the damage their purge has done to their bottom line. Any money infusions to keep them on script will be observable.


Well, it's a pretty good case.

IMO, there is no room for stepping down, leaving the power stage. Trump's window is now or never, he's not a young man, and a second chance, if it ever happens, will consequently be too late, for America and by proxy, the rest of the world.

[Helene West]

@ Norman - I'm not getting how losing is a good strategy.
If the House votes for impeachment all it demonstrates is that we have 'in our face evil' instead of the usual sneaky, subterranean evil. In our face - daring us to do something about it - type Evil.
If that's the case we're then supposed to believe the senators are so different they will save the day?
I'm not seeing the good part of this 'case'.

[norman]

woah. I didn't say it was a thing to plan or hope for. I meant it may not be the end of the world if it happens.

[Hervé]

Amazon bans Michael Hoffman's books - interview (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/on-the-censorship-of-michael-hoffmans-books-by-amazon/)

The Saker The Unz Review (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/on-the-censorship-of-michael-hoffmans-books-by-amazon/)
Thu, 13 Sep 2018 07:52 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s24/484846/large/5b8016aafc7e9324498b45c9.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s24/484846/full/5b8016aafc7e9324498b45c9.jpg)
© Pascal Rossignol / Reuters


A couple of months ago I did an interview with one of the foremost scholars of rabbinical Judaism, Michael Hoffman (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/an-interview-with-michael-a-hoffman-ii/). The occasion was the release of his latest book The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome (https://www.amazon.com/Occult-Renaissance-Church-Rome/dp/0990954722/?tag=unco037-20). At the time I did not expect to have to ask for a follow-up interview with him, but then I learned that Amazon had censored his books (please see Hoffman's own account of this here (http://www.unz.com/article/revisionist-history-books-banned-by-amazon/)). Specifically, the ban is on three of his books. A complete ban (Kindle + printed book) on Judaism's Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded, as well as The Great Holocaust Trial: Revised and Expanded, while his textbook, Judaism Discovered, has been removed from the Kindle. I felt that I had to talk to him again and he kindly agreed to reply to my questions. I submit to you the full text of our Q&A which I will follow-up with a short commentary.
The Saker: Please summarize what happened to your books and Amazon and tells us what specific explanations were given to you. Did Amazon ever offer you a "page and paragraph" list of "offending" passages? Do you have any means of knowing exactly what your book is being banned for?

Hoffman: Whether it is Facebook, Google or Amazon, the excuse most often cited for suppression is "content guidelines' violation." Amazon notified us on August 13 that two of our titles, which they have been selling for years and in thousands of copies, Judaism Discovered, our 1100 page textbook published in 2008, and Judaism's Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded, published in 2010 - were being permanently removed after "review" by the Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) unit of Amazon. A facsimile of the KDP notice can be viewed here:

https://www.revisionisthistory.org/page8/page8.html

In their e-mail they told us that "...we found that this content is in violation of content guidelines." In studying their content guidelines one encounters a vague, generic statement about not permitting that which is "offensive." There is no guidance as to what "offense" has suddenly arisen after these books were sold on Amazon for several years. Like the Red Queen in Wonderland who declared to Alice that, "A word is anything I say it is!" - that which "offends" is anything Amazon says it is. A third book, The Great Holocaust Trial: The Landmark Battle for the Right to Doubt the West's Most Sacred Relic, was also forbidden.

Does Amazon have the chutzpah to publicly categorize these books as "hate speech" or some other alibi for censorship that could be contested? No, they do not. They leave authors and publishers twisting in the wind, making it more difficult to appeal the decision and report to the public on the tyranny. Although since they allow no appeal, it's a moot point. Personally, I have no doubt concerning why my books were censored.
Full interview: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/on-the-censorship-of-michael-hoffmans-books-by-amazon/


Saker's comment:

* * *


Reading Hoffman’s words I thought that what happened to him is so typical of the Orwellian world we live in where the what I call the “Skripal rules of evidence” (aka “highly likely”) have replaced even basic evidentiary notions, a world in which false flag attacks are announced weeks in advance (https://www.rt.com/news/438158-staged-chemical-attack-idlib/), a world in which the Planetary Hegemon has declared urbi et orbi that nothing in the body of international law applies to the “indispensable nation” (or to the parasitic host feeding off it) (https://www.rt.com/usa/438023-icc-dead-war-crimes-bolton/) and where “might makes right” has become the motto by which everybody lives. Of course, the censorship of a book cannot be compared to the initiation of a war of aggression (which is the “supreme international crime” under international law: th (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/09-30-46.asp)is (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/09-30-46.asp)was (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/09-30-46.asp) the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial on this topic (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/09-30-46.asp): To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole). Still, there is something uniquely devious and evil about the censorship of Hoffman’s books by Amazon, several things in fact:


What is attacked in not a person or even a group, but ideas, arguably the most precious attribute of mankind. This is therefore not only an attack on a human being, but an attack on the very notion of humanity as such



While the method is different, the intention here is no different from the book burnings of the Nazis or the Papacy except that in these latter cases it was obvious who ordered the burning of putatively “degenerate” or “heretical” books. Thus the ideological motive of the Nazis and Papists was always clear whereas in the case of Hoffman this ideological motive is hidden (even if obvious with anybody with a modicum of intelligence).



The ultimate hypocrisy lies in the fact that most so-called libertarians (from the Left to the Right) have nothing to say about this because this is not a case of censorship by government but the action of a corporation which has the “right” to do as it wishes, nevermind that the result is still a clear de-facto infringement of Hoffman’s First Amendment rights and the freedom of academic scholarship.



The US government and Congress, by allowing monopolistic corporations such as Amazon to have that kind of power are basically engaging in what I would call “censorship by proxy” which is to be expected from a deep state which now does almost everything by proxy in order to bypass fundamental US and international laws (“extraordinary renditions” anybody?).



Unlike the government which does have to produce at least some evidence before it can censor an individual or organization, a US corporation does not even have to justify itself by a single word. This is viewed as a triumph of deregulation by mindless libertarians who would gladly surrender all their freedoms as long as it is not to the state. In the real world, of course, they still end up handing over their freedoms to the state, except that the state is hiding behind their beloved corporations.

It is also pretty obvious that those who might, at least in theory, have something to say about this kind of censorship by proxy remain silent because, at least according to them, Hoffman is an “anti-Semite” (which, having read many of his books, I can attest is a total falsehood; by way of evidence here are sample pages from his book:




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/998059880270331904/CGX4M6CK_bigger.jpg Michael Hoffman‏ @HoffmanMichaelA (https://twitter.com/HoffmanMichaelA)

Using hate speech accusations to suppress irrefutable facts, the troglodyte book-banning lobby pressured Amazon to suppress “Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded” containing documentation that advances human learning. Amazon complied, preferring censorship to knowledge.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmvWMktUcAY7dDh.jpg

7:32 AM - 10 Sep 2018
5 replies 40 retweets 49 likes and thus he is undeserving of support. So-called “anti-Semites” are, along with the pedophiles, the “consensus villains” of the day (I explain that in detail here (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/first-they-came-for-the-nazis-and-pedophiles/)) but what the anti-anti-Semites fail to realize is that each time a “consensus villain” is deprived from his rights, this sets a precedent for everybody else. This is why Yehuda Bauer warned us when he wrote:
“Thou shalt not be a victim, Thou shalt not be a perpetrator, And above all, Thou shalt not be a bystander”.
To no avail, alas: we live in society of silent bystanders apparently! And when YouTube decides to silence all the Syrian state channels to better prepare for a false flag chemical attack (https://www.rt.com/news/437979-youtube-syria-government-media-channels/), everybody looks away – “ain’t my problem”…

We all know that in Europe (and in Russia) you can be jailed and your books banned if a court finds them to be “revisionist” or “anti-Semitic” or “hateful” and the like. But at least in Europe (and in Russia), you get your day in court and you can defend yourself against accusations which the state has to prove. In Russia, just last week, a man accused of “rehabilitating National-Socialism” (for reprinting an article by another author!) was found non guilty by a majority of jurors (5 to 3) (https://cursorinfo.co.il/all-news/sudebnyj-pretsedent-otritsanie-holokosta-ne-yavlyaetsya-prestupleniem-v-rf/) (the punishment he was facing was a fine and several years in jail (https://www.zakonrf.info/uk/354.1/)).

Thank God, in the “home of the brave” no such thing could happen, right?!

True, Hoffman does not risk jail (yet!). But in terms of crushing crimethink, I submit that the US system is much more effective because it allows the deep state to hide behind the veil of corporate malfeasance. There have been plenty of revolutions against a state, but I don’t know of any revolutions against the corporate dictatorship.

You tell me: which is worse, the absence of freedom or the illusion of freedom?

Personally, I find the latter much worse.

I never expected the corporate presstitutes to really care about our freedoms, ditto for the libertarians and the progressive Left. They are all too busy with their narrow ideological agenda. As for the US academic world, it has shown its true face when it allowed the persecution of Professor Norman Finkenstein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Tenure_denial_and_resignation). But I have to say that I am shocked by the fact that the blogosphere and the so-called “alternative media” has remained so silent in the face of such a blatant censorship by proxy by the deep state against one of the foremost US historians.

I urge all those reading these lines to speak up on Hoffman’s behalf and to support him by purchasing his superb and (https://www.revisionisthistory.org/page8/page8.html) censored (https://www.revisionisthistory.org/page8/page8.html)books (https://www.revisionisthistory.org/page8/page8.html). This is how every one of us can resist the Hegemon and his rule!

[DNA]

Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

It is seriously pissing me off. :mmph:
Much love to all.

[James Newell]

Maybe the powers that be are screwing with it. Or his techies are goofing it up.
On another note: Here is a great video on what the google tech heads are really intending. Infowars is just the first prime target.
I think there is a real case for election meddling and racketeering.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-13-natural-news-calls-for-the-arrest-prosecution-of-google-executives-for-racketeering-and-fraud.html

[Nasu]

Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

It is seriously pissing me off. :mmph:
Much love to all.

All seems fine on my end. Maybe THEY just don't like YOU watching his stuff!! You plus his info is too much of a threat, lol. Seems strange though I agree..x... N

[PurpleLama]

Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

It is seriously pissing me off. :mmph:
Much love to all.

All seems fine on my end. Maybe THEY just don't like YOU watching his stuff!! You plus his info is too much of a threat, lol. Seems strange though I agree..x... N

If I were in the PTB, I would definitely make a hobby out of effing with Marcus. Just sayin'.

:focus:

[norman]

Maybe the powers that be are screwing with it. Or his techies are goofing it up.
On another note: Here is a great video on what the google tech heads are really intending. Infowars is just the first prime target.
I think there is a real case for election meddling and racketeering.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-13-natural-news-calls-for-the-arrest-prosecution-of-google-executives-for-racketeering-and-fraud.html


I'm 2/3 the way through this and I'm flabbergasted.


I know why the founders of America made it a republic instead of a democracy. The way these people throw the term 'democratic process' around scares me to the bone.


They absolutely HAVE to be stopped at all cost. Watching a country go under this kind of arrogant ignorance is like watching a person pushing their hand through a mincing machine, while saying, "don't worry, I have plenty of anaesthetic applied and it feels strangely euphoric, actually - you should try it, it's incredible".

[Sophocles]

The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb2ItwghRA1zrFgMWm4sCQ)") the same day and is still viewable:

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...and there goes another (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb2ItwghRA1zrFgMWm4sCQ) (or the last) one... :facepalm:

[norman]

[ I don't like the fact that he's had a few whiskeys, it makes him look bad. I wonder who's idea that was ]


Alex Jones “I’m Ready to Die” - Exclusive Interview After Being Banned


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Published on 13 Sep 2018



Alex Jones opens up to Patrick Bet-David amidst all the large social media platforms banning him and his conspiracy theories.

Watch, share and subscribe to Valuetainment http://bit.ly/2aPEwD4 (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=LIHoJJJmlWqgl9Glv0ck2hqm9hh8MTUzNjk3NzE0NkAxNTM2ODkwNzQ2&v=xvqdhphHrh0&q=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2aPEwD4&event=video_description)




About Alex Jones:

Alexander Emric Jones is an American radio show host and conspiracy theorist. He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas, which airs on the Genesis Communications Network across the United States and online.


About Valuetainment:

Founded in 2012 by Patrick Bet-David, our goal is to impact entrepreneurs around the world through value and entertainment. We are the #1 channel for entrepreneurs because of the best interviews, best how to videos, best case studies and because we defend capitalism and educate entrepreneurs.




Website: http://www.patrickbetdavid.com (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=LIHoJJJmlWqgl9Glv0ck2hqm9hh8MTUzNjk3NzE0NkAxNTM2ODkwNzQ2&v=xvqdhphHrh0&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patrickbetdavid.com&event=video_description)

[Foxie Loxie]

Our physical death is but a New Beginning. :sun: Alex can feel amazed at the impact he has had upon our society & can look forward to his New Assignment!

None of us are indispensable & we simply exit this "stage", hopefully having accomplished what our "task" here has been! :Angel:

[Valerie Villars]

https://www.infowars.com/top-google-scientist-quits-over-plan-for-censored-chinese-search-engine/


A top Google employee has resigned in protest of the company’s work on a censored search engine for China.

The employee, 32-year-old Jack Poulson, who worked as a senior research scientist for Google’s research and machine intelligence division, first raised concerns at the company in early August after documents published by The Intercept first revealed the project’s existence.

Known internally as Dragonfly, the censored search engine would allow the Chinese government to keep its citizens from accessing any data it deems sensitive.

Poulson, who is believed to be one of at least 5 employees to quit over Dragonfly, told The Intercept‘s Ryan Gallagher that he felt an “ethical responsibility to resign” over the “forfeiture of our public human rights commitments.”

Aside from the censored search engine, Poulson also expressed concern over customer data being hosted in China, a country notorious for targeting dissidents.

Poulson laid out his issues with Dragonfly and Google’s direction in a resignation letter to his superiors.

“Due to my conviction that dissent is fundamental to functioning democracies, I am forced to resign in order to avoid contributing to, or profiting from, the erosion of protection for dissidents,” Poulson wrote. “I view our intent to capitulate to censorship and surveillance demands in exchange for access to the market as a forfeiture of our values and governmental negotiating position across the globe.”

The decision to pursue such projects, Poulson further argued, could lead to other authoritarian regimes making similar demands.

“There is an all-too-real possibility that other nations will attempt to leverage our actions in China in order to demand our compliance with their security demands,” Poulson wrote.

Despite growing outcry over Dragonfly, Google has thus far refused to publicly comment on the project, only stating that it does not discuss “speculation about future plans.”

Just last month a group of leading human rights organizations called on Google to immediately cease its involvement with the project.

“Like many of Google’s own employees, we are extremely concerned by reports that Google is developing a new censored search engine app for the Chinese market,” a letter to Google CEO Sundar Pichai said. “The Chinese government extensively violates the rights to freedom of expression and privacy; by accomodating the Chinese authorities’ repression of dissent, Google would be actively participating in those violations for millions of internet users in China.”

More than 1,400 Google employees also signed a similar letter last month demanding the company let its workers know what it was developing.

“Currently we do not have the information required to make ethically-informed decisions about our work, our projects, and our employment. That the decision to build Dragonfly was made in secret, and progressed with the [artificial intelligence] Principles in place, makes clear that the Principles alone are not enough,” the letter said. “We urgently need more transparency, a seat at the table, and a commitment to clear and open processes: Google employees need to know what we’re building.”

Google had previously built a search engine for China in 2006 but ended the program four years later after saying the Communist government attempted to curtail free speech and even tried to hack their computer systems as well.

Pichai, Google’s CEO, also refused earlier this month to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee to answer questions regarding Dragonfly.

[DNA]

If I were in the PTB, I would definitely make a hobby out of effing with Marcus. Just sayin'.
:focus:


All seems fine on my end. Maybe THEY just don't like YOU watching his stuff!! You plus his info is too much of a threat, lol. Seems strange though I agree..x... N


LOL :sun:
Thanks Reilley and Nasu, I appreciate the feedback I was just looking to see if other folks were having this same problem.

I seriously doubt I'm a target of sorts but if I am then we all better worry about being targets of sorts. :)

[Valerie Villars]

I seriously doubt I'm a target of sorts but if I am then we all better worry about being targets of sorts.


We are all targets if we have half a brain. If you do, you're on the list. And there's really no use being worried about it. Just be aware. :focus:

[norman]

FTC Opens Monopoly Probe on Google

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Published on 12 Sep 2018

[Michi]

This YouTube music video (in German) is worth mentioning as it condemns stringent YouTube actions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAlYZcmWc2k
I saw it surprisingly played (for the second time) at a large German TV Channel (Tele5)
You can run the video with subtitles and auto-translate on.

Here is the (translated) video description:

Small backstory: On 25.06.2018 my channel - and with it 11 years, thousands of hours of work plus a community of 80.000 subscribers - was DISABLED WITHOUT advance warning and with ridiculous reasons.

At first I was puzzled... angry. But I decided to process my feelings the way I could: creatively. So I wrote this song, recorded it momentarily and realized: I finished with YouTube.

An hour later I received an e-mail that it was a mistake and that my channel was activated again. But in the meantime a lot had happened to me... and I decided to produce this video.

This is not a farewell, but a statement. YouTube (like so many faceless tech giants) presents itself as approachable, free and creative, yet it's just a huge, soulless advertising agency. And everyone who submits to this exchange of art for commerce is part of the problem (even if probably not everyone understands or sees it that way).

For me Youtube will only be a place to communicate with the community from time to time and to publish smaller projects.

My true brain juice is now available on: (link omitted here).

(Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator -- not Google :p )

[James Newell]

Youtube has judged it has the power to erase the past, which means it thinks it can control the present and the future. But NOT if we Remember what really occurred.

And for the hell of it here is James O'Keefe's bust of a deep state plant. Better watch it before its taken down. Okeefe is on Jones show today btw.

https://www.infowars.com/resist-everything-project-veritas-unmasks-deep-state-operative-working-in-state-dept/

[justntime2learn]

Good evening Avalonians,

Attached is a screenshot of a SuspiciousObservers video uploaded this morning and now erased. You can still see a shot of the video towards the bottom as well as the blank space towards the top where it was.

Ben requested that anyone call or e-mail PDS and ask the following quoted question. I'm sorry I wrote the phone number only as I thought the video would still be available when I had time to post. The phone number is 703-739-5000.


Why does PBS Digital Studios think it's ok to claim copyright for material they did not create? Why are you making money from others material? ~ Ben Davidson

Ben Davidson showed PBS claiming copyright for his material and others who produced the video. He also mentioned something about them not being able to vilify him, so they went this route.

He also showed pictures of his children with the caption "why are you stealing from us."

Is there a way to retrieve the 2 minute video for all to see?

Thanks so much in advance!

-J

[justntime2learn]

Good News!

According to Ben in the first 12 seconds of the video:


Yesterdays YouTube issues were resolved in our favor in less than six hours. ~ Ben Davidson

Quote on video:

Yesterday's issues were 100% resolved in our favor. Google and PBS both sided with us, and blamed each other. This is the difference between a channel ready for attack, and those who are not.


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[Bill Ryan]

YouTube (like so many faceless tech giants) presents itself as approachable, free and creative, yet it's just a huge, soulless advertising agency. And everyone who submits to this exchange of art for commerce is part of the problem (even if probably not everyone understands or sees it that way).

That's a quoted translation from this German video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAlYZcmWc2k), and it's 100% perfectly stated.

[Helene West]

I was downloading a song from Itunes today and up popped the New Terms and Conditions for me to accept. I usually do so right away without reading any of it so as to move on but today I caught at the top of the page one of the changes they've made is Face ID for authentication of Purchases. It didn't go into detail it was on a list with two other changes. I felt upset.
I went online to check to see how common it is as I can be in my own little drudgery world and there were several posts regarding how to download or other discussions on Face ID for PhoneX or something like that.
But what was more upsetting to me as I'm a pretty frequent Amazon user was some posts revealing that Amazon intends to get rid of passwords and just use Face ID.
Thinking about how many idiots will think its so convenient and cool makes me more down than the actual software.
I expect the corporate aristocracy to come up with this stuff, what's been disappointing is how many americans are ready to trustingly acclimate to it

[norman]

Alex Jones's infowars site has just been given 10 days to get completely removed from all of PayPal's service platform.

[Valerie Villars]

I like Alex more and more, every day and every time he gets banned, he rises in stature. Thanks big tech.

How to create a martyr in ten easy steps.
1) de-platform
2) de-platform
3) de-platform
4) you get the picture.

[Hervé]

PayPal bans InfoWars for 'promoting hate and intolerance' (https://www.rt.com/usa/439083-paypal-bans-infowars-agreement/)


RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/439083-paypal-bans-infowars-agreement/)
Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:22 UTC


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Alex Jones, founder of Infowars © Jim Bourg / Reuters


Payment processing service PayPal has banned Alex Jones's InfoWars, saying that the site "promoted hate and discriminatory intolerance" and thus violated their use policy.

InfoWars itself broke the news (https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-paypal-bans-infowars-after-lobbying-by-soros-funded-group/) on Friday, saying that PayPal sent them an email the day before informing Jones of the decision. PayPal was used to process purchases at InfoWars' on-site store.

According to InfoWars, PayPal had conducted a comprehensive review of their website and found it "promoted hate and discriminatory intolerance against certain communities and religions."

The service offered no specific examples. InfoWars says the two examples they were given off the record were their criticism of Islam and opposition to transgenderism being taught in schools. PayPal's definition of hate is "is so vague that virtually anything could qualify," InfoWars said.

Last month, Right Wing Watch published an article (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/alex-jones-financed-by-paypal-despite-obvious-terms-of-service-violations/) demanding of PayPal to drop Infowars for "egregious violations of the platform's own terms of service." RWW is a subsidiary of People for the American Way, a pro-Democrat advocacy group that gets much of its funding from George Soros' Open Society Institute.

Jones and Infowars were deplatformed by most social media companies last month under pressure from media outlets and liberal activists, with CNN leading the charge. Twitter initially resisted calls to ban Jones from its platform, but decided to do so earlier this month (https://www.rt.com/usa/437822-twitter-permanently-bans-alex-jones/), after Jones live-streamed his confrontation with a CNN reporter who advocated for his removal from social media, outside a congressional hearing about internet censorship.

Silicon Valley has gone so far as to punish social media users for simply linking to Infowars. Last week, founder of the #WalkAway movement Brandon Straka found himself banned from Facebook (https://www.rt.com/usa/438500-walkaway-banned-facebook-infowars/) after one of his posts got mentioned "infowars." The ban was later lifted.

There are no "hate speech" laws in the US; the Constitution forbids the government to abridge freedom of expression. Advocates of social media purges have argued that Silicon Valley tech giants are private companies, to which the prohibition against censorship does not apply. There have been mutterings among some Republicans about challenging the social networks' status under Article 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which shields them from liability for content as neutral public platforms, and treat them as publishers instead.

Infowars was given 10 days to find a new payment processor.

[TargeT]

Article 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which shields them from liability for content as neutral public platforms

This will come to a confrontation... you can't have it BOTH ways....

If they are not liable for content, then they are a "public square" in essence and now are subject to 1st amendment restrictions on censorship.

[ThePythonicCow]

This will come to a confrontation... you can't have it BOTH ways....
... unless all the good lawyers in town are on your retainer :)

[norman]

The Phone call from Paypal to Infowars


https://www.real.video/5838283054001

[Valerie Villars]

What other way can I donate to Avalon without doing paypal?

So now everyone needs a beard to survive in this world?

Please let me know. I am going to try and extricate myself from this machine.

[ThePythonicCow]

What other way can I donate to Avalon without doing paypal?
I can accept a variety of payment methods, such as cash, check, crypto, amazon gift cards, bank wire, bank ACH, money orders, ... and convert them to donations to Bill, who owns and pays for the forum.

Money orders and checks or currency denominated in currencies other than the US Dollar are more of a nuisance for me to convert, so are not my first choice, if given a choice.

[James Newell]

I am going to look for an alt to paypal. I'm not taking this brainwashing, be a good boy crap social media manipulation without fighting it. Literally Alex Jones is fighting corporations worth in excess of 4 trillion dollars. Unless you count Soros which could be worth several tril.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I have cancelled facebook, now I will cancel paypal, don't ever use amazon and never will. Paypal will kill me though, having no credit cards with no intention of getting one. No idea how I will make payments or how I will donate... But, even though it will be inconvenient, some of us must resist. I wish it wasn't always me having to forego ease and convenience just to preserve my integrity.

[Valerie Villars]

All right. I need time. No checks. The bastards destroyed my life and I own nothing. So, there's the finger to them because my life has actually become much easier. But, they want to make this inconvienent. I'm loathe to go with Amazon.

Cool, I have time. They gave me time.

We don't have checking. I know this sounds crazy but I haven't dealt with a bank in five years.

[James Newell]

It IS heating Up! I kind of like it! Life is NOT boring.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-21-its-treason-pelosi-schumer-schiff-and-warner-open-insurrection.html

[norman]

This will cripple the business that keeps Alex going. He may find another payment processor but all his customers will be cut off and floundering trying to work out what to do and who to trust.


His cashflow will drop to a trickle immediately and only slowly pick up again. Well, that's what I expect.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Paul, for being so very helpful! :highfive:

Val...buy a money order....ANYTHING to keep Avalon going!! :bigsmile:

[Valerie Villars]

Yes, that's the conclusion I came to so I'll pm Paul for the info.

Norman, of course that's what they are trying to do. They sucker punch you, bring you down, then when you are getting up they do it again and again and again. The final blow comes from them ruining a person financially. I know this from personal experience and expected them to do this to Alex.

I'm hoping he has enough stashed to make it through and perhaps access to some big pockets on the other side of Soros who will help him out. I pray that happens.

[James Newell]

This 'Game' seems to be being played at several levels. It is quite possible it is just a pro wrestling gambit to keep everyone entertained.
But I'll bet Jones works it out and comes out the winner despite against all odds. Attacking his income lines is quite an attack though.
But he does have friends in high places.

https://100percentfedup.com/just-in-trump-drafts-exec-order-hitting-social-media-giants-with-federal-investigations/

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/james-woods-suspended-twitter-over-satirical-meme-could-impact-election

Actor James Woods banned from Twitter for posting a satirical meme.

[PurpleLama]

This will cripple the business that keeps Alex going. He may find another payment processor but all his customers will be cut off and floundering trying to work out what to do and who to trust.


His cashflow will drop to a trickle immediately and only slowly pick up again. Well, that's what I expect.

There are many, many, many services out there that will help him with processing credit cards directly on site, and most who utilize his store would quickly make the switch. That's my prediction.

That said, the whole idea of, if it happened to him it could happen to anyone makes the whole situation even more ominous when PayPal jumps on the bandwagon of liberal angst. One wonders if this isn't shades of what's to come from the eventual cashless society in the works.

I think with every step they are overplaying their hand. Millions are getting a better red pill because of the attention to AJ. I just hope he hangs in there.

As an aside, a few days ago I made a trip to my state's capitol, about 100 mile trip on one of the major highways, and we saw a sign by a fruit stand on side of the road, FREE ALEX JONES, and it made me smile.

[norman]

I'll tell you what, if the "absolute liberal insanity" James Woods speaks of really does march right over the censored conservative opposition, in November, you won't see a crack of daylight between it's tail end and the bayonets of the fascist shock troops coming for real blood and a final solution.

[PurpleLama]

I'll tell you what, if the "absolute liberal insanity" James Woods speaks of really does march right over the censored conservative opposition, in November, you won't see a crack of daylight between it's tail end and the bayonets of the fascist shock troops coming for real blood and a final solution.

I tell you what, my state is the last one to get anything, and this won't be an exception. We have more registered firearms than we have people. :o

[norman]

This will cripple the business that keeps Alex going. He may find another payment processor but all his customers will be cut off and floundering trying to work out what to do and who to trust.


His cashflow will drop to a trickle immediately and only slowly pick up again. Well, that's what I expect.

There are many, many, many services out there that will help him with processing credit cards directly on site, and most who utilize his store would quickly make the switch. That's my prediction.

That said, the whole idea of, if it happened to him it could happen to anyone makes the whole situation even more ominous when PayPal jumps on the bandwagon of liberal angst. One wonders if this isn't shades of what's to come from the eventual cashless society in the works.

I think with every step they are overplaying their hand. Millions are getting a better red pill because of the attention to AJ. I just hope he hangs in there.

As an aside, a few days ago I made a trip to my state's capitol, about 100 mile trip on one of the major highways, and we saw a sign by a fruit stand on side of the road, FREE ALEX JONES, and it made me smile.


Processing credit cards is the problem. A lot of his customers use paypal instead of credit cards. Also, his international sales will vanish because they are paypal customers too.

[RunningDeer]

UPDATE: I was wrong. Sorry. {blush}

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Whaw, RED HANDED.

[norman]

UPDATE: I was wrong. Sorry. {blush}

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Whaw, RED HANDED.









Whaw,OK, no worries, you do a stomping good job.



Makes you wonder what you have to be to NOT be fiddled around with.


They, of course, know all the true figures. Who knows how much panic there really is in those tech ivory towers.

[norman]

This 'Game' seems to be being played at several levels. It is quite possible it is just a pro wrestling gambit to keep everyone entertained.
But I'll bet Jones works it out and comes out the winner despite against all odds. Attacking his income lines is quite an attack though.
But he does have friends in high places.

https://100percentfedup.com/just-in-trump-drafts-exec-order-hitting-social-media-giants-with-federal-investigations/


I do wonder if that's a big part of the action here.


"They" would love nothing better, right now, than to catch Trump doing something sneaky to help Alex Out.


And anyway, they are doing absolutely everything they possibly can to wind Trump up and make him hand them the 25th ammendment on a silver platter.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/social-media-purge-and-how-it-affects-everyone

Another article on how it isn't just conservatives being targeted by the onslaught of tech giants.

[ThePythonicCow]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/social-media-purge-and-how-it-affects-everyone

Another article on how it isn't just conservatives being targeted by the onslaught of tech giants.

As you noted above, PurpleLama ... sure seems like some of those social media and financial giants are overplaying their hand, perhaps being setup for a major downfall and changing of the guard.

I wonder what they have next in store for us?

[norman]

The US already IS under martial law, but not by Trump.


It's under the Continuity of Government system still run by the Obama/Clinton Democrats bunch.




Alex Jones is shaking with urgency about it.


Alex Jones - 2018-Sep-23, Sunday (https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-sep-23-sunday/)

https://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2018-sep-23-sunday/?utm_campaign=notification_new_upload&utm_medium=email&utm_source=notification&utm_content=html




There's a little bit of bragging in this one. He claims he started the use of the term Deep State. No he didn't.


But anyway, he's got his finger on something here that could nullify the Trump Presidency if people with clout don't jump on this fast.

[James Newell]

I watched it too. A lot is in the air. Between Jones, Q and even Fulford, something seems to coming down here pretty soon. Hope everyone has some water and food and other important essentials, just in case these guys are calling it right.

[norman]

Matt Braken has just stated on the AJ show that a new web platform to replace Youtube is about to be switched on. It's financially backed by some big money on the 'conservative' side of things.

[norman]

This is my own edited version of the whole of todays AJ Show. I chopped out all the advert breaks.


Today:

Roger Stone, James o'Keefe (Project Veritas), Mike Adams (The Health Ranger) and Matt Braken.


MP3:
https://app.box.com/s/az556v3isl90k4hci3fu2unk96pdh81v

[norman]

Big Tech Has Defined Conservatism as “Hate Speech”

How to silence your political opposition using this one simple trick

Paul Joseph Watson (https://www.infowars.com/author/paul-joseph-watson/) | Infowars.com - September 24, 2018


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By corralling basic conservative opinions and beliefs under the umbrella of “hate speech,” social media giants have invented a new ploy to censor conservatives while claiming they are not censoring conservatives.

Nationalism, patriotism, populism, and Christianity are all now being treated as “hateful” by Big Tech.


These companies then engage in a form of legalese where they assert they are not banning people for their personal or political opinions, but because of violations of terms of service.


But the truth is that merely holding and expressing nationalist, populist, patriotic or Christian opinions and beliefs is deemed a “violation” because such beliefs have been subjectively defined as “hateful”.


For example, PayPal announced it was banning Infowars last week because Infowars had “promoted hate and discriminatory intolerance”.


In real terms, this meant that we had opposed the teaching of transgenderism to young children in schools and criticized political Islam.


Alex Jones was also deplatformed by every major Big Tech firm over spurious claims of “hateful” content that were never specifically quantified.


As the leaked Google meeting video illustrates, since November 2016, Big Tech vowed to use its vast power to squelch a movement that Silicon Valley elitists convinced themselves is based on “racism,” “xenophobia” and “extremism”.

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By broadening the definition of “hate” to include any argument that challenges far-left progressive dogma, Big Tech has created an environment where the expression of any criticism of sexual lifestyles or belief systems, even if it doesn’t target individuals, can be defined as “harassment” or “hateful”.


This new definition has also been cemented with the aid of Democratic lawmakers like Congressman Ted Deutch (D-FL), who demanded (https://www.infowars.com/dem-congressman-pressures-facebook-to-ban-infowars-during-live-hearing/) Facebook and YouTube ban Alex Jones and Infowars for ‘offensive’ and ‘hateful’ content for weeks before it happened.


The “hateful” tag also just happens to be very similar to the “harmful” term utilized by the Communist Chinese government to justify its purge of dissident content.


“China has shut down more than 4,000 websites and online accounts in a three-month campaign against “harmful” online information,” reports ChannelNewsAsia (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/china-shuts-thousands-of-websites-in-clean-up-campaign-xinhua-10747570), adding that examples of “harmful” behavior include “spreading rumours” and spreading “improper values”.


Just like the term “hate,” these terms are so vague that virtually anything could be defined as “harmful” or “improper,” which in this case includes dissidents who criticize the government on social media.


Now we see the emergence of “hate facts,” where conservatives can accurately quote crime statistics about minority groups which are provably true, yet publicly sharing such facts becomes a bannable offense because they could be seen to portray minority groups in a negative light.


Tommy Robinson was suspended by Twitter (https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/01/tommy-robinson-banned-twitter-stating-statistical-fact-muslim-grooming-gangs/) for accurately pointing out that up to 90% of grooming gang culprits in the United Kingdom come from Bangladeshi or Pakistani communities. Despite this being an objective fact, merely expressing it became verboten because it contradicted with the progressive narrative that immigration can only ever be positive.


Mastercard also terminated its agreement (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/mastercard-says-it-blacklisted-robert-spencer-because-of-illegal-content) with Robert Spencer over vague, non-defined claims that Spencer had posted “illegal content” and promoted violence, an assertion backed up with no actual examples whatsoever.

In reality, Spencer’s crime was to oppose radical Islam, the most violent belief system on the planet.


Until prominent conservatives and Trump administration officials realize that Big Tech is overtly hostile to the mere expression of basic conservative beliefs and is busy creating an environment where they will become increasingly less tolerable, the silencing of voices on the right will only accelerate.


https://www.infowars.com/big-tech-has-defined-conservatism-as-hate-speech/

[PurpleLama]

This is my own edited version of the whole of todays AJ Show. I chopped out all the advert breaks.


Today:

Roger Stone, James o'Keefe (Project Veritas), Mike Adams (The Health Ranger) and Matt Braken.


MP3:
https://app.box.com/s/az556v3isl90k4hci3fu2unk96pdh81v

I listened to a chunk of yesterday's show, and pairing that with Jayke's post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1250289&viewfull=1#post1250289), it makes for a significant possibility/plan, to execute an EO along with the opening of the indictments. Hmmm....

[Valerie Villars]

Amendment I[/B]
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.[B]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

[PurpleLama]

Funny word, that.

http://www.freelawdictionary.org/?s=Redress

The receiving satisfaction for an injury sustained.

[norman]

My own edited version of todays AJ Show, with advert breaks chopped out.

Tuesday:

Paul Joseph Watson, Gavin McInnes (CRTV Get off my Lawn Show), Phone Callers

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/4om2xp63tzy96g8bk9yx0l8zt9cuysip





[ not an absolutely unmissable show, if you are selective about AJ. I'll scream loudly enough when another important one comes along ]

[norman]

Edited sections of Today's Alex Jones Show ( Wednesday 26th September 2018 ).


AJ Show - Michael Graves ( of the Missfits) - 2018-09-26_Wednesday:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/sq2cmbeugyxe0j2itp9ihybbncja23bj


AJ Show - Leo Zagami - 2018-09-26_Wednesday:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/o2q318pwbxxg1w7xml7plu49maws64p0


AJ Show - Vox Day (writer) - 2018-09-26_Wednesday:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/uoeye0epe4jlywaxyd0tk1mixq4ebthk


AJ Show - Roger Stone - 2018-09-26_Wednesday:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/rukiuh3t6wwlob615jpgm5s9iaocj62f

[norman]

AJ Show - The Kavanaugh Testimony 1st hour - 2018-09-27_Thursday
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/74nrogg9eugh15flx2w2gr2052us27qx



Despite the infowars team's positive spin, I have a feeling this isn't going to end well.

[norman]

Here, Matt Bracken speaks a little about a new Social Media platform that's going to pop up in a few days time.


He's still being vague about it but I get the impression it's not going to be free to use. It WILL have rules. No NAZIs, No Commy, No Radical Islam, No Globalism. I don't think I heard him mention Zionism.


I'm already thinking it's no substitute for youtube/facebook but we'll see. IF the videos are easily embedable in forum threads it'll have a better chance than the others.


AJ Show - Matt Bracken - New social media platform - 2018-10-02_Tuesday
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/mvl0hi49almk96o8pwx0zeym6utpyhrp

[norman]

Today's AJ show was quite a good listen. These sections have all had the advert breaks removed.



Here, Alex has a go at Tim Cook the Apple boss [5 min]:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/0s9yd0gepgts10xmq0ccgyzxz9q48cfh





This is a chopped down version of a 2 hour interview with Clyde Lewis (Ground Zero Radio Show) [1 hour 35 min]:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/ssha3xppqyf96biyw5262yoymrvq64wi

Clyde has lots of interesting things to say.






This is the first hour, Alex on his own [44 min]:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/nseu6lfytikwcp5rtdz3exe92jbif873

[James Newell]

Yes it was a very interesting show, Something to think about re Tim Cook.With China having all the records if you use an Apple phone, we're talking treason here.
https://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-tim-cook-is-the-mot-dangerous-living-person-on-this-planet/

[Bill Ryan]

Yes it was a very interesting show, Something to think about re Tim Cook.With China having all the records if you use an Apple phone, we're talking treason here.
https://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-tim-cook-is-the-mot-dangerous-living-person-on-this-planet/

Considering also this thread...


Apparently China just can't resist embedding spyware (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104514-Apparently-China-just-can-t-resist-embedding-spyware)

... it seems more and more that Alex Jones has been right all along about China being the real threat to America (and American society), in VERY many covert ways.

[James Newell]

This is a link re China Where VP Pense gives his opinions. Looks like China has been doing some Art of War on several levels.
China: https://youtu.be/aeVrMniBjSc

[norman]

This is a link re China Where VP Pense gives his opinions. Looks like China has been doing some Art of War on several levels.
China: https://youtu.be/aeVrMniBjSc

The topical parts of this speech start at about the 20 minutes point.

He knows what's going on, very well.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-11/facebook-purges-over-800-accounts-millions-followers-including-conservative-meme

The culling continues....

559 pages and 251 accounts that were coordinating the spread of misinformation and spam in the U.S. -- and most originated from within the country.

The social network, which has been under fire for facilitating foreign interference in U.S. politics, has found that domestic actors have also been creating fake pages and accounts to attract people with shocking political news, the way they have in the past with celebrity news or health news. Their motivation is mostly financial, the company said.

“The people behind the activity also post the same clickbait posts in dozens of Facebook Groups, often hundreds of times in a short period, to drum up traffic for their websites,” the company said Thursday in a blog post. “And they often use their fake accounts to generate fake likes and shares. This artificially inflates engagement for their inauthentic pages and the posts they share, misleading people about their popularity and improving their ranking in news feed.”

In the past, Facebook has pulled hundreds of fake pages spreading political misinformation from countries including Russia and Iran. Those types of posts had the aim of sowing discord in the U.S., setting up protest events and moments of outrage. The domestic actors, in contrast, are trying to generate revenue by getting more people to click on their accounts, pages or advertisements, according to Facebook. One thing in common, though, is the use of fake identities and accounts to artificially increase the popularity of certain news, gaming the company’s algorithm in the process.

Facebook’s rules don’t stop people from saying things that are false and incendiary. But the company tries to take down accounts and pages that are not from real people.

Some pages Facebook removed had large followings of real and fake accounts. Nation in Distress, a conservative meme page, was followed by more than 3 million people, according to the Internet Archive, which stores historical versions of websites and other online content. Reverb Press, which most recently was posting information opposed to then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, was liked by more than 800,000 people and had been verified by Facebook. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-11/facebook-removes-over-800-accounts-spreading-u-s-misinformation?srnd=premium)

[Richard S.]

Facebook purges hundreds of political pages, some alt-media with millions of followers (https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/)

RT
Published time: 12 Oct, 2018 00:32
Edited time: 12 Oct, 2018 08:41

Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/




Seems like "they" want to put all the cards in their favor for the mid terms...

[Magnus]

Imo, facebook itself, properly should never have been allowed to exist in the first place.

Isn't it due time for people to purge facebook from their lives altogether?

[Jantje]

Somebody told me today she could not live without a smartphone with internet connection. I'm not sure how serious that was but facebook and social media in general seems quite addictive to a lot of people. I never understood the attraction of facebook in the first place.

[Hervé]

Here is the RT article (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103766-YouTube-Facebook-Apple-and-Spotify-all-ban-Alex-Jones-Infowars&p=1253735&viewfull=1#post1253735) in full:

Facebook purges hundreds of political pages, some alt-media with millions of followers (https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/)

RT
Published time: 12 Oct, 2018 00:32
Edited time: 12 Oct, 2018 08:41
Get short URL (https://on.rt.com/9gb4)


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© Reuters / Aaron P. Bernstein


Facebook is again being called out for purging political accounts too far left and right of center, after it removed more than 800 pages just in time for the 2018 midterm elections. Some had millions of followers.

Many of the affected pages were supposedly sharing links between groups using fake accounts, which then clicked "Like" on the posts, artificially upping their engagement numbers. This "inauthentic behavior" violates Facebook's anti-spam policies and goes against "what people expect" from Facebook, the company said (https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/10/removing-inauthentic-activity/).

While some of the deleted pages have been known to run content of questionable credibility at times, Facebook did not expressly accuse them of spreading "fake news" – or actually provide a list of names or examples of postings at all. However, under the platform's new policies, simply spreading "news" is frowned upon: it has recently (https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/29/12055124/facebook-news-feed-algorithm-changes) tweaked its algorithm to prevent users' feeds from being dominated by news stories.
Twitter was in an uproar as many voices on the left and right alike saw their pages removed without cause.

On the Left, AntiMedia, with its 2.1 milion followers, and the Free Thought Project with 3.1, were among the victims. AntiMedia's Twitter account was suspended shortly after they posted about their removal from Facebook.
Facebook has unpublished our page

After 5 years of building fans Facebook has officially unpublished our page (3.1 million fans) so we can't post on it anymore. This is truly an outrage and we are devastated. We will do everything we can to recover our page and fight back. pic.twitter.com/H3AmHTT8Qo (https://t.co/H3AmHTT8Qo)
— Free Thought Project (@TFTPROJECT) October 11, 2018 (https://twitter.com/TFTPROJECT/status/1050456314093002752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)Press For Truth was also dropped.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1371714700/my_new_Tattoo_bigger.jpg Dan Dicks‏ @DanDicksPFT (https://twitter.com/DanDicksPFT)

I’ve been memory holed from FaceBook! 350k followers poof gone! There is a dangerous precedent being set here where the big tech companies have appointed themselves as the gate keepers of political thought and opinion! Retweet this if you care about free-speech! #FreeDicks (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeDicks?src=hash)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpQLm_JUYAAkfOX.jpg

1:05 PM - 11 Oct 2018
140 replies 1,212 retweets 1,240 likes Right Wing News (more than 3.1 million followers) and Nation In Distress (also over 3mn followers) were some of the conservative pages that got the axe.

Among those dragged under in the 'inauthentic behavior' purge is RT America correspondent Rachel Blevins, who says she took years to build up a following by posting her reports and articles – though RT content is probably not very popular with Facebook staff these days.





https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/813889164156534788/_Mgx0fNt_bigger.jpg Max Blumenthal‏Verified account @MaxBlumenthal (https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal)

Max Blumenthal Retweeted Rachel Blevins
Ahead of the midterms, Facebook purged 800 politically oriented pages on the grounds of spamming and “inauthentic messaging.” But Rachel’s account is real & has done none of this. Maybe she just strayed outside FB’s arbitrary political boundaries. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-facebook-political-messages-purge-20181011-story.html … (https://t.co/paVPMaUxiu)

Max Blumenthal added,

Rachel Blevins @RachBlevins
Facebook took down my page with nearly 70,000 followers, labeling it as "spam," when I have spent 4 years working to build that page up and using it to post the articles I wrote and videos of my reporting. This is so incredibly wrong and is affecting hundreds of similar pages.

4:50 PM - 11 Oct 2018
46 replies 574 retweets 867 likes In August, the aggressively pro-NATO think tank Atlantic Council announced it was joining Facebook as a "fact-checking" partner. A press statement from the social media platform gushed that the think tank, which boasts such esteemed warmongers as Henry Kissinger and Michael Chertoff on its board, would serve as the "eyes and ears" of Facebook, so the platform could play a "positive role" in ensuring democracy was practiced correctly in the future.

In the recent months, accounts that post anti-establishment political content have noticed a massive drop in engagement on their posts – if they haven't been kicked off the platform altogether. In August, Facebook deleted 652 accounts after cybersecurity firm FireEye claimed they were linked to Iran.

After it emerged that political research firm Cambridge Analytica had used publicly-available user data to target possible Trump voters, CEO Mark Zuckerberg dismissed the idea that social media manipulation played a significant role in the 2016 US presidential election. Since then, however, the company has been playing catch-up, trying to preempt government regulation by banning and blocking any user who deviates from an increasingly narrow centrism.

Remembering the days when Facebook was all about cat videos and clickbaity headlines, one cannot help but link the sense of social responsibility it's suddenly developing to how US lawmakers have set their sights on social media platforms. In April, Zuckerberg had to endure House and Senate hearings, taking cringe-worthy questions from politicians who at time seemed to barely know what a social network is and how it works.

Meanwhile, mainstream media fearmongering is already kicking in. The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/technology/fake-news-online-disinformation.html) – an outlet Facebook is unlikely to de-list for posting misleading content anytime soon – has cited "experts" to accuse these domestic US pages of "emulating the Russian strategy of 2016" by creating and amplifying clickbait.

Related:
Careful what you wish for: ThinkProgress gets censored by Facebook fact-checkers (https://www.rt.com/usa/438504-facebook-thinkprogress-censored-articles/)

[PurpleLama]

So, when will these actions ahead of the midterms be called out for "election interference"???

[TargeT]

So, when will these actions ahead of the midterms be called out for "election interference"???

After the anti-trust law suits against the social media monopolies.... which wont happen.


Not sure why this hasn't been challenged in some way. It's clearly corporate bias.

Q6n3iv_BmGg

Zuckerberg continues to try and see how many people he can abuse before his platform destabilizes, while attempting to insinuate that Facebook is able to determine what constitutes "legitimate" debate

[Hervé]

Meet the reporters whose pages were shut down by Facebook (https://sputniknews.com/us/201810121068814924-Reporters-Pages-Shut-Down-By-Facebook/)

Alexander Rubinstein Sputnik (https://sputniknews.com/us/201810121068814924-Reporters-Pages-Shut-Down-By-Facebook/)
Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:07 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s24/492198/large/No_speak_silence.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s24/492198/full/No_speak_silence.jpg)
© CC BY 2.0 / Jennifer Moo


Facebook purged hundreds of pages from its platform on Thursday. But instead of the usual targets - namely Russia and Iran - Thursday's ban shut down accounts operated by independent American reporters and activists, Sputnik News has learned.

Facebook said the pages were "working to mislead others about who they are, and what they are doing," but the co-founder of one of the pages, The Free Thought Project, tells Sputnik News Facebook's claim couldn't be further from the truth.

Most of the pages that were banned and viewed by Sputnik News were independent media outlets and pages that advocated for marijuana legalization or shined a light on police brutality.

In total, Facebook removed 559 pages and 251 personal accounts "that have consistently broken our rules against spam and coordinated inauthentic behavior," the social media giant said. "Given the activity we've seen - and its timing ahead of the US midterm elections - we wanted to give some details about the types of behavior that led to this action," Facebook said, going on to accuse the accounts of manipulating the platform to make their content appear more popular, hawking fake products or functioning as ad farms that tricked "people into thinking that they were forums for legitimate political debate."




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/723566700873039873/I3WNlNdI_bigger.jpg Jon Ziegler “Reb Z”‏Verified account @Rebelutionary_Z (https://twitter.com/Rebelutionary_Z)

Looks like @Twitter (https://twitter.com/Twitter) removed any account @PMbeers (https://twitter.com/PMbeers) had access to. My @RebZtv (https://twitter.com/RebZtv) account (although no longer being used) is suspended for no other reason than Patti tweeting REAL news or livestreams from that account per twitter rules.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpRF1WtU0AAbcll.jpg

5:19 PM - 11 Oct 2018
8 replies 29 retweets 19 likes The founder of one of the pages - The Anti-Media - said he had no knowledge of his page engaging in any such behavior. The Free Thought Project co-founder similarly denied Facebook's accusations. Rachel Blevins, a reporter for RT America whose personal journalism page was nixed, also denied inauthentic behavior.

Just hours after its ban from Facebook, Twitter suspended Anti-Media from its platform, following a pattern of social media companies successively banning users that has been demonstrated in the past. For example, Facebook, YouTube and Apple all banned the far-right conspiracy theory site InfoWars around the same time. And after the CIA-funded cybersecurity firm (https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201808231067403827-CIA-Firm-Facebook-Accounts/) FireEye contacted Facebook, Google and Twitter, each company banned a number of accounts allegedly linked to Iran.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1044639870990389250/jWO1po_u_bigger.jpg Alex Rubinstein‏Verified account @RealAlexRubi (https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi)

Inconsistencies in Twitter's ban of Alex Jones https://sptnkne.ws/j3VJ (https://t.co/hoCnSMLoQ7)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmcLQ-LXoAM0g_6.jpg

2:12 PM - 6 Sep 2018
0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes In the case of InfoWars, Twitter eventually followed suit (https://sputniknews.com/us/201809061067817344-Alex-Jones-InfoWars-Banned-Twitter/?utm_source=short_direct&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=j3VJ&utm_campaign=URL_shortening).

While many warned that the ban of InfoWars from social media would establish a slippery slope, they were often mocked and ridiculed. Thursday's onslaught on independent media appears to have confirmed their suspicions, however.




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1046900522723237888/gSqJFld6_bigger.jpg Anya Parampil‏Verified account @anyaparampil (https://twitter.com/anyaparampil)

Anya Parampil Retweeted John Fugelsang
And how does this poem end, again?
Anya Parampil added,

John FugelsangVerified account @JohnFugelsang
First they came for Alex Jones & Infowars - but I wasn't a race-baiting transphobic conspiracy cultist who claims murdered children in Newtown are hoaxes and admitted in court that I'm just an entertainer who makes **** up, so I said nothing.

1:39 PM - 6 Aug 2018
4 replies 5 retweets 27 likes Facebook has been partnering with the Digital Forensics Lab, an arm of the Atlantic Council think tank - a neoconservative group funded by Gulf monarchies and defense giants like Raytheon - to weed out inauthentic users from its platform. Similarly, it has been partnering with the neoconservative Weekly Standard magazine to fact check so-called fake news.

Journalist Abby Martin (https://sputniknews.com/us/201808141067196112-Power-Curate-Reality-Facebook-Censors-Media/), who hosts "The Empire Files" on TeleSur English, told Sputnik News after TeleSur's page was temporarily removed from Facebook, "The shuttering of progressive media amidst the 'fake news' and Russiagate hysteria is what activists been warning all along - tech companies, working in concert with think tanks stacked with CIA officials and defense contractors, shouldn't have the power to curate our reality to make those already rendered invisible even more obsolete."

Sputnik News contacted a number of journalists caught up in the ban. Below is what they had to say, edited extremely lightly for clarity.

Independent reporter John Vibes, who contributes to The Free Thought Project (https://thefreethoughtproject.com/) and other websites:
This signifies a re-consolidation of the media. Cable news media controlled the narrative for most of modern history, but the internet has lowered that barrier to entry and allowed the average person to become the media themselves. This obviously took market share and influence away from the traditional media, and it has allowed for a more diverse public conversation. Now it seems the platforms that have monopolized the industry are favoring mainstream sources and silencing alternative voices. So now, instead of allowing more people to have a voice, these platforms are creating an atmosphere where only powerful media organizations are welcome, just as we had on cable news.

People think that we are just providing an activist spin on the news, but they don't see the families struggling to have their voice heard. For example, when someone is shot by police, mainstream media sources often just republish the press release from the police department, without presenting the victim's side of the story. We give the victims and their families a voice, which is essential to keep power in check. This also goes for bigger issues like foreign policy as well; multiple full-scale invasions of Syria have been prevented because of information that the alternative media made viral. "Information exchange" activist Jason Bassler, who co-founded The Free Thought Project and solely founded Police the Police, both of which were banned:
We were verified by Facebook with a little check mark next to our name, so they know we are a legitimate organization/outlet. They have seen our "Articles of Organization" which was issued by the state of Louisiana, which is where my partner and The Free Thought Project co-founder lives.

We have even paid Facebook to boost our posts and for likes in the past, meaning they gladly took our money for a product that they ended up manipulating and backing out on. It wasn't much, maybe $1,200 over the past 6 years. Do we get that money back now?

We have already had the lawyers at Rutherford Institute (a nonprofit civil liberties organization) send them a letter late last month about unfair treatment by third-party "fact checkers," which they ignored and never responded to.

I was motivated [to start The Free Thought Project] by the injustices I saw on social media during Occupy Wall Street in 2011. I knew I had an obligation to get involved somehow and to share information critical for liberty and peace. I never thought I would have built fan pages of 5 million fans, nor did I ever think we would employ and give jobs to nine other activists (at one point), but I was inspired to do what I could to plant seeds and combat the mainstream media's bullsh*t narratives, to keep police and government accountable, to make sure people knew their rights and how to interact with police.

All that's gone now with a click of a button. Six years of hard work, literally seven days a week, working our as*es off finding stories, researching them, writing them, making thumbnails and titles for them, making graphics and videos for them, sharing them on various social media outlets.

What's next? I will fight this until I am utterly exhausted. We will fight back tooth and nail. I don't care if that means protesting in front of Facebook headquarters (which I've already considered doing many times in the past two years), I will make sure people know how corrupt and untrustworthy Facebook is if it's the last thing I do. You can't just steal years of hard work from someone and not expect there to be consequences. I will do everything I can to make their lives miserable. That's a promise. Rachel Blevins (https://twitter.com/RachBlevins), a correspondent for RT America:
Today I was locked out of my Facebook account for four hours, and my public page was "unpublished." There appears to be no explanation for this other than the vague claim from Facebook that my page was taken down because it was "administered by a fake account, misleading users or violating the Facebook spam policies." I am the only person who publishes posts on my page; the only posts I publish are articles I have written or videos of my reports, and I only post one or two times a day - which rules out all of the claims that I have violated Facebook's policies.

My page had nearly 70,000 followers before it was taken down. I have poured the last four years into building my page as a journalist, and I have noticed recently that the reach seems to have been stifled and that the engagement on my posts was down significantly. I know that I am not the only one who has become a victim of this purge, and there are hundreds of other pages - many of which had millions of followers - that have been taken down with no warning and no explanation. Ford Fischer, the founder of the media startup News2Share (http://news2share.com/start/), had a number of his live streams removed during the purge, although they were later restored:
This attack was a long time coming. Facebook has been slowly clamping down on independent media. First, they removed more extreme pages and made it harder for the surviving ones to make a living by hurting their algorithms (unless they paid, of course!). Then they started purging those that didn't quickly respond to their ID requests. Today, hundreds of pages belonging to the family of independent media, especially those that question state authority, were removed without explanation. This is just one step further toward the total state and corporate takeover of what you're allowed to think. Nicholas Bernabe, founder of The Anti-Media (https://theantimedia.com/):
Our approach generally is to cover stories and angles that corporate media underreport or misreport and to amplify activist and anti-war voices and stories. All of our content is professionally fact-checked and edited.

I got into this line of work because I felt there was a need for media that challenged mainstream assumptions and biases in politics. I wanted to shed light on corruption and wrongdoing against oppressed peoples and cover the harsh truth about American foreign policy.

Over the last 28 days, we reached 7,088,000 people on Facebook.

The timing of this purge is rather dubious in my view, coming shortly before the midterm elections. This could be an attempt by Facebook itself to affect the outcome of the coming elections. The Twitter suspension caught me by surprise. I can only speculate that these suspensions were a coordinated effort to stifle our message ahead of the coming elections. Related:


Facebook purges over 800 accounts with millions of followers; prominent conservatives vanish (https://www.sott.net/article/398095-Facebook-purges-over-800-accounts-with-millions-of-followers-prominent-conservatives-vanish)



Facebook, Twitter Purge More Dissident Media Pages In Latest Escalation (https://www.sott.net/article/398096-Facebook-Twitter-Purge-More-Dissident-Media-Pages-In-Latest-Escalation)



Zuckerberg op-ed leaves no doubt Facebook is little more than a vehicle to spread US propaganda (https://www.sott.net/article/395360-Zuckerberg-op-ed-leaves-no-doubt-Facebook-is-little-more-than-a-vehicle-to-spread-US-propaganda)



Google playing 'good censor' for civility's sake, leaked briefing confirms (https://www.sott.net/article/398077-Google-playing-good-censor-for-civilitys-sake-leaked-briefing-confirms)



In defense of free speech: Censorship never ends well (https://www.sott.net/article/393741-In-defense-of-free-speech-Censorship-never-ends-well)

[norman]

On today's Alex jones Show, Zak made a surprise call in. Zak used to be a guest who had good info about things going on behind the scenes with the Trump presidency and the operations to take him down.

I've chopped out the Zak part and uploaded it here:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/bau7sz32luecrbkgaxo3wpaxaa2xq9l6

[Satori]

As Alex Jones says: "There is a war on for your minds." Make no mistake about that.

[Richard S.]

Facebook purges hundreds of political pages, some alt-media with millions of followers (https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/)

RT
Published time: 12 Oct, 2018 00:32
Edited time: 12 Oct, 2018 08:41

Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/




Seems like "they" want to put all the cards in their favor for the mid terms...

And they add to their BS...

[Deux Corbeaux]

Facebook Purge: Here is The List Of Pages Deleted by Facebook


.......


The following is a list of 185 pages that are currently unpublished on Facebook. Some of these have been confirmed by the owners as having been unpublished by Facebook as part of Thursday’s mass purge of pages, while others are currently unconfirmed as being part of the purge. However, all of these pages were still indexed by Google on October 12, 2018, which suggests they were recently active and thus removed recently.

This list of pages purged by Facebook contains nearly 60 million followers in total. Fan totals were recorded from the cache stored by Google.

To create this list, The Western Journal started with pages that had been confirmed as unpublished by Facebook, took the domains most often shared by those pages, and used Google search to find additional Facebook pages sharing those same domains. When new unpublished pages were found, the process was repeated until this list was generated.

This list is not complete, as Facebook has publicly stated that they unpublished 559 pages during a large-scale enforcement action on October 11th, 2018. The Western Journal will be updating this article as new unpublished pages are discovered.

If you have been impacted by the Facebook purge or you believe that any of these pages are listed here in error, please use the “submit a correction” link below the article to contact The Western Journal.

The Western Journal has reached out to Facebook to confirm that these pages were part of the purge and will update this article when Facebook responds.

Update: Two more pages have been added after sent in by reader, totaling more than 2.2m additional fans. In addition, one duplicate was removed. The total number of pages and fans has been updated above.


For the list read here:
https://www.westernjournal.com/facebook-purge-list-pages-deleted/

[Pam]

Facebook Purge: Here is The List Of Pages Deleted by Facebook


.......


The following is a list of 185 pages that are currently unpublished on Facebook. Some of these have been confirmed by the owners as having been unpublished by Facebook as part of Thursday’s mass purge of pages, while others are currently unconfirmed as being part of the purge. However, all of these pages were still indexed by Google on October 12, 2018, which suggests they were recently active and thus removed recently.

This list of pages purged by Facebook contains nearly 60 million followers in total. Fan totals were recorded from the cache stored by Google.

To create this list, The Western Journal started with pages that had been confirmed as unpublished by Facebook, took the domains most often shared by those pages, and used Google search to find additional Facebook pages sharing those same domains. When new unpublished pages were found, the process was repeated until this list was generated.

This list is not complete, as Facebook has publicly stated that they unpublished 559 pages during a large-scale enforcement action on October 11th, 2018. The Western Journal will be updating this article as new unpublished pages are discovered.

If you have been impacted by the Facebook purge or you believe that any of these pages are listed here in error, please use the “submit a correction” link below the article to contact The Western Journal.

The Western Journal has reached out to Facebook to confirm that these pages were part of the purge and will update this article when Facebook responds.

Update: Two more pages have been added after sent in by reader, totaling more than 2.2m additional fans. In addition, one duplicate was removed. The total number of pages and fans has been updated above.


For the list read here:
https://www.westernjournal.com/facebook-purge-list-pages-deleted/


I looked at the list and literally all of them are leaning towards right wing politics or are pro Trump. If that isn't a blatant effort to try to manipulate outcome in the midterms, I don't know what is. The same group of people that bitch about Russian influence have no problem doing the same kind of crap when they get the chance.

[TargeT]

The same group of people that bitch about Russian influence have no problem doing the same kind of crap when they get the chance.

that which rises up and destroys the tyrant (https://www.npr.org/2014/10/05/353849567/when-political-speech-was-banned-at-berkeley), becomes it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests)

[Valerie Villars]

The same group of people that bitch about Russian influence have no problem doing the same kind of crap when they get the chance.

that which rises up and destroys the tyrant (https://www.npr.org/2014/10/05/353849567/when-political-speech-was-banned-at-berkeley), becomes it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests)

Napoleon saw a crown in the gutter and picked it up. How he became emperor after the revolution is just astounding.

[James Newell]

It is more of a OWO not nwo , ONE world order. They want very bad their interpretations of what reality is supposed to be. They have been very used to manipulating the masses with the media;but now a lot of people are awake. They aren't used to losing control like this. The suppression will become more as to twitter,fb,goog etc. cancelling free speech. But it is too late, the people are not going to sleep again, I hope.

Use all your communication outlets to make your points known and ban and leave those organizations that are screwing with free speech.

[Flash]

The same group of people that bitch about Russian influence have no problem doing the same kind of crap when they get the chance.

that which rises up and destroys the tyrant (https://www.npr.org/2014/10/05/353849567/when-political-speech-was-banned-at-berkeley), becomes it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests)

Napoleon saw a crown in the gutter and picked it up. How he became emperor after the revolution is just astounding.

I have noticed, in my personal life journey, that it takes about 3 generations after dictatorship or crown domination to become a true democratic society.

This means that the risk of someone picking up a crown in the gutter and putting it on its head is very high for about 2 generations after the crown has been abolished.

You have seen that in France, in Russia as well after the death of the Tzar, Lenine and Staline became the kings and in many other countries.

Poeple used to being dominated have a hard time to handle freedom and democracy, this is a slow process.

As the reverse is as well. People used to freedom have a hard time with a dictatorial regime. It takes a slow boiling of a few generations to reverse the freedom tendencies.

I have no sources for this, no research article, these are my personal observations in countries that had been ruled by dictatorships.

You can see the traces of it, and the traces of obedience, in every single individual in these countries, in their verbal habits as well as non verbal behaviors and then in subsequent generations as well (once the dictatorships are down), although less obvious as generations pass.

[norman]

Steve Pieczenik was on the AJ Show today. Alex got him on to talk about the Saudi Arabia/WP Reporter death story, but they ended up talking about China.


AJ Show - Steve Pieczenik section_2018-10-15.mp3:
MP3
https://app.box.com/s/5ade3csciypqhqlewpgnacthzlkt5hon

[PurpleLama]

So, when will these actions ahead of the midterms be called out for "election interference"???

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-15/people-stopping-election-interference-are-ones-actually-rigging-election

[Innocent Warrior]

The Jimmy Dore Show -

eqBzFbGuPf8

[Tintin]

Here's a story that ran on October 9th and I'm as certain as I can be after a quick search that it may not yet have been shared on the forum on this thread.

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‘THE GOOD CENSOR’: Leaked Google Briefing Admits Abandonment of Free Speech for ‘Safety And Civility’

By Allum Bokhari | 9 Oct 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-leaked-google-briefing-admits-abandonment-of-free-speech-for-safety-and-civility/

An internal company briefing produced by Google and leaked exclusively to Breitbart News argues that due to a variety of factors, including the election of President Trump, the “American tradition” of free speech on the internet is no longer viable.
Despite leaked video footage showing top executives declaring their intention to ensure that the rise of Trump and the populist movement is just a “blip” in history, Google has repeatedly denied that the political bias of its employees filter into its products.

But the 85-page briefing, titled “The Good Censor,” (https://www.dropbox.com/s/llxn76ntakmxp0l/the-good-censor-watermarked.pdf?dl=0)admits that Google and other tech platforms now “control the majority of online conversations” and have undertaken a “shift towards censorship” in response to unwelcome political events around the world.

Examples cited in the document include the 2016 election and the rise of Alternative for Deutschland (AfD) in Germany.

Responding to the leak, an official Google source said the document should be considered internal research, and not an official company position.

The briefing labels the ideal of unfettered free speech on the internet a “utopian narrative” that has been “undermined” by recent global events as well as “bad behavior” on the part of users. It can be read in full below.

It acknowledges that major tech platforms, including Google, Facebook and Twitter initially promised free speech to consumers. “This free speech ideal was instilled in the DNA of the Silicon Valley startups that now control the majority of our online conversations,” says the document.

The briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions, the “unmediated marketplace of ideas” vs. “well-ordered spaces for safety and civility.”

The first approach is described as a product of the “American tradition” which “prioritizes free speech for democracy, not civility.” The second is described as a product of the “European tradition,” which “favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.” The briefing claims that all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition.

The briefing associates Google’s new role as the guarantor of “civility” with the categories of “editor” and “publisher.” This is significant, given that Google, YouTube, and other tech giants publicly claim they are not publishers but rather neutral platforms — a categorization that grants them special legal immunities under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Elsewhere in the document, Google admits that Section 230 was designed to ensure they can remain neutral platforms for free expression.

Trump, Conspiracy Theorist

One of the reasons Google identifies for allegedly widespread public disillusionment with internet free speech is that it “breeds conspiracy theories.” The example Google uses? A 2016 tweet from then-candidate Donald Trump, alleging that Google search suppressed negative results about Hillary Clinton.

At the time, Google said that it suppressed negative autocomplete suggestions about everybody, not just Clinton. But it was comparatively easy to find such autocomplete results when searching for Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. Independent research from psychologist Dr. Robert Epstein also shows that Google search results (if not autocomplete results) did indeed favor Clinton in 2016.

Twice in the document, Google juxtaposes a factoid about “Russian interference” in American elections with pictures of Donald Trump. At one point, the document admits that tech platforms are changing their policies to pre-empt congressional action on foreign interference.

The document did not address the fact that, according to leading psychologists, the impact of foreign “bots” and propaganda on social media has a negligible impact on voters.

From Suggestions to Company Policy

It is unclear for whom the “Good Censor” was intended. What is clear, however, is that Google spent (or paid someone to spend) significant time and effort to produce it.

According to the briefing itself, it was the product of an extensive process involving “several layers of research,” including expert interviews with MIT Tech Review editor-in-chief Jason Pontin, Atlantic staff writer Franklin Foer, and academic Kalev Leetaru. 35 cultural observers and 7 cultural leaders from seven countries on five continents were also consulted to produce it.

What is also clear is that many of the briefing’s recommendations are now reflected in the policy of Google and its sibling companies.

For example, the briefing argues that tech companies will have to censor their platforms if they want to “expand globally.” Google is now constructing a censored search engine to gain access to the Chinese market.

The document also bemoans that the internet allows “have a go commenters” (in other words, ordinary people) to compete on a level playing field with “authoritative sources” like the New York Times.

Google-owned YouTube now promotes so-called “authoritative sources” in its algorithm. The company did not specifically name which sources it would promote.

Key points in the briefing can be found at the following page numbers:





P2 – The briefing states that “users are asking if the openness of the internet should be celebrated after all” and that “free speech has become a social, economic, and political weapon.”

P11 – The briefing identifies Breitbart News as the media publication most interested in the topic of free speech.

P12 – The briefing says the early free-speech ideals of the internet were “utopian.”

P14 – The briefing admits that Google, along with Twitter and Facebook, now “control the majority of online conversations.”

P15 – Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is linked to Google’s position as a platform for free expression. Elsewhere in the document (p68), Google and other platforms’ move towards moderation and censorship is associated with the role of “publisher” – which would not be subject to Section 230’s legal protections.

PP19-21 – The briefing identifies several factors that allegedly eroded faith in free speech. The election of Donald Trump and alleged Russian involvement is identified as one such factor. The rise of the populist Alternative fur Deutschland (Alternative for Germany) party in Germany – which the briefing falsely smears as “alt-right” – is another.

PP26-34 – The briefing explains how “users behaving badly” undermines free speech on the internet and allows “crummy politicians to expand their influence.” The briefing bemoans that “racists, misogynists, and oppressors” are allowed a voice alongside “revolutionaries, whistleblowers, and campaigners.” It warns that users are “keener to transgress moral norms” behind the protection of anonymity.

P37 – The briefing acknowledges that China – for which Google has developed a censored search engine – has the worst track record on internet freedom.

P45 – After warning about the rise of online hate speech, the briefing approvingly cites Sarah Jeong, infamous for her hate speech against white males (Google is currently facing a lawsuit alleging it discriminates against white males, among other categories).

P45 – The briefing bemoans the fact that the internet has until recently been a level playing field, warning that “rational debate is damaged when authoritative voices and ‘have a go’ commentators receive equal weighting.”

P49 – The document accuses President Trump of spreading the “conspiracy theory” that Google autocomplete suggestions unfairly favored Hillary Clinton in 2016. (Trump’s suspicions were actually correct – independent research has shown that Google did favor Clinton in 2016).

P53 – Free speech platform Gab is identified as a major destination for users who are dissatisfied with censorship on other platforms.

P54 – After warning about “harassment” earlier in the document, the briefing approvingly describes a 27,000-strong left-wing social media campaign as a “digital flash mob” engaged in “friendly counter-commenting.”

P57 – The document juxtaposes a factoid about Russian election interference with a picture of Donald Trump.

P63 – The briefing admits that when Google, GoDaddy and CloudFlare simultaneously withdrew service from website The Daily Stormer, they were “effectively booting it off the internet,” a point also made by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the FCC in their subsequent warnings about online censorship.

P66-68 – The briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions, the “unmediated marketplace of ideas” vs. “well-ordered spaces for safety and civility.” The first is described as a product of the “American tradition” which “prioritizes free speech for democracy, not civility.” The second is described as a product of the “European tradition,” which “favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.” The briefing claims that all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition.

P70 – The briefing sums up the reasons for big tech’s “shift towards censorship,” including the need to respond to regulatory demands and “expand globally,” to “monetize content through its organization,” and to “protect advertisers from controversial content, [and] increase revenues.”

P74-76 – The briefing warns that concerns about censorship from major tech platforms have spread beyond the right-wing media into the mainstream.
Read The Good Censor in full below. Alternative download option available here.

The Good Censor – GOOGLE LEAK by on Scribd



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[norman]

Hmmm, they seem to be going with the British plan ( to become PUBLISHERS - that gives them editorial rights and cover ). That's NOT good.

Meanwhile, Alex Jones is in a tizzy about THIS [ my red highlight ]:


Alex Jones Here with an emergency election alert!

I’ll be going live on The Alex Jones Show at 11AM Central - infowars.com/show (http://email.vervemail.com/ct/53361900:J2PwlRC9N:m:1:2839739810:9F45D8996CAD133A8CBE50BFFFBDF4DA:r).

Dems are pushing the lie that Trump is going to call for violence against the press, fostering an environment for a false flag attack.

Tell your friends and family to tune in to infowars.com/show (http://email.vervemail.com/ct/53361895:J2PwlRC9N:m:1:2839739810:9F45D8996CAD133A8CBE50BFFFBDF4DA:r) to listen to the web’s most-censored broadcast!

It's critical you spread this link (http://email.vervemail.com/ct/53361895:J2PwlRC9N:m:1:2839739810:9F45D8996CAD133A8CBE50BFFFBDF4DA:r) and share this email to beat the censors! Push this email, and forward it to people you know!
Also, text NEWS to 33222 to sign up for Infowars text alerts!

And remember – if you’re receiving this email, you are the resistance.
WATCH NOW (http://email.vervemail.com/ct/53361901:J2PwlRC9N:m:1:2839739810:9F45D8996CAD133A8CBE50BFFFBDF4DA:r)

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-25/twitter-bans-former-asst-treasury-secretary-paul-craig-roberts-after-sputnik

Twitter has banned Paul Craig Roberts.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-27/paypal-bans-social-network-gabcom-after-synagogue-attacker-revealed-user

So Gab social media site has been banned from PayPal because the synagogue shooter had an account there. But, what about his Twitter and Facebook?

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/gab-booted-hosting-company-after-synagogue-shooting

Gab is also being dropped by their hosting company.

[norman]

Techno-Nuke War.

FFS . . . . .

[James Newell]

An interview with GAB founder. Also Gab has arranged for a new server to host Gab. We are in a 21st infowar.
https://www.infowars.com/world-exclusive-gab-founder-responds-to-synagogue-massacre-lashes-out-at-the-lying-msm/

[PurpleLama]

Best news I've heard in a while:

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/30/tech-entrepreneur-kim-dotcom-criticizes-twitters-lazy-programming-lousy-privacy/

Dotcom would be the one to do it, I bet.

[James Newell]

Here is a bunch of banned videos from newswars.com
Promote the link whether you agree with them or not. Screw censorship!
https://www.newswars.com/banned-video-archive-gab-founder-family-receiving-death-threats-stalked-by-media/

[norman]

Google mail has just started dumping my news emails from infowars dot com in my spam box.

I really hope that's not because regular recipients have been dumping them there recently.

It's probably a google move in their election meddling agenda.

[Valerie Villars]

Thanks Norman. I just checked and some of my Infowars email are in my inbox, but strangely there were different ones in my spam folder.