Re: Dan Burisch and alternate timelines

[Seikou-Kishi]

I remember during the Dan Burisch interview that he said the artefacts on Mars are remnants of human constructions which haven't yet been built, both a fading image and a foreshadowing, because of the cyclical nature of time.

I wonder this: if time is cyclical in that way, and the 'Greys'/'J-Rods' are humans who remained on Earth for a longer time while the 'Nordics' are humans who left Earth at an earlier date, is it possible that the Nordics are the Neanderthals and the Greys are the Cro-Magnon people, and that what is interpreted as an extinction event was/will be just the Neanderthals/Nordics leaving Earth before the Cro-Magnons/Greys?

I realise that I may not be making much sense, and that any answer will undoubtedly be nothing but speculation, but I'm curious to read your responses.

[Hiram]

NOW you're thinking;-)

[Bright Garlick]

Seikou-Kishi : Some one in the know once said to me 'Mars is Earth' and they tried to explain that they are not separate. Maybe Dan is saying something similar.
I always believed that life was started on Mars first and Earth second but there seems to be evidence to suggest that they are more interconnected and time is not as separate between the two as it appears. :cool:

[Helvetic]

Yes there is a connection to Mars.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/732/marsf15.jpg
The "Mars Face" as we know it


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1327/marsf15rotate.jpg
The "Mars Face" rotated

Please connect the dots...

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm sorry, but I can't for the life of me determine what it's supposed to look like upside down.

[Teakai]

Seikou-Kishi : Some one in the know once said to me 'Mars is Earth' and they tried to explain that they are not separate. Maybe Dan is saying something similar.
I always believed that life was started on Mars first and Earth second but there seems to be evidence to suggest that they are more interconnected and time is not as separate between the two as it appears. :cool:

According to Arizona Wilder (Illuminati whistleblower - in an interview with David Icke)the Aryans came from mars - and the reptilians followed them here.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Oh really? I hadn't heard that, thanks Teakai :D

[haibane]

I realise that I may not be making much sense

Do you realise it just might not be you? (^__~ )

[Alien Ramone]

...is it possible that the Nordics are the Neanderthals and the Greys are the Cro-Magnon people, and that what is interpreted as an extinction event was/will be just the Neanderthals/Nordics leaving Earth before the Cro-Magnons/Greys?

I interpret what Burisch said the same as you do, except he said that the surface humans didn't leave Earth until several thousand years after the disasters. From the interview by Kerry with Dan:


K: So... OK, but you’re saying the Nordics are going to get off Earth if the catastrophe happens. Or regardless.
D: They leave after.
K: After the catastrophe happens.
D: Presumably several thousand years after it happens, they leave.
K: Several thousand years.
D: Yes, they move to the Moon.
K: Oh. I was getting the impression you were talking about them going on space ships or something.
D [shaking head no] Not really. No. They move off to the Moon several thousand years, via space craft. They get to the place where the Ark was held and that they re-establish a new community. From there they move to Mars. From Mars, out to Orion.
K: So they...
D: We’re talking a lot of time here.

The Face on Mars
K: The “face” on Mars... is this... Are we looking at something that was left behind by the Nordics?

Here is my detailed interpretation:
According to Dan Burisch, I think in time line 2 there was a disaster such as a pole shift with one group of humans going underground. The group that stayed on the surface left after a period of several thousand years. They went to the moon and then Mars and made the monuments at that time. That group became what is known as the P52 Orions (a.k.a. the Tall Whites, the Large Nose Greys, or the Nordics - not to be confused with other groups such as the Pleiadians, which are also sometimes referred to as the Nordics).

Those from the Roswell crash were from 24,000 years in the future and were descendants of the humans that had gone under the surface of the Earth. They came to help us avoid disasters. The underground group left Earth some time after 24,000 years in the future and went to the Zeta Reticuli System. They became the P45 J-Rods (a.k.a. Greys) 45,000 years in the future. Over the next 7,000 years they became the P52 J-Rods (a.k.a. P-52 Greys or Mantis Greys).

The monuments on Mars were made during the time that the future Nordics were on Mars. My interpretation of what Burisch said is that some kind of temporal distortion caused the monuments to exist in a distorted way now, due to some kind of convergence of time lines. He wasn't sure how it worked, because he's not a physicist.

What I wonder about is the original time line, where there would have been no interference from human descendants coming back. I wonder how the details of that time line went.

[noprophet]

Those exact same cyclical time questions have very much been rolling around me head Seik.

At which point are we viewing our history and at which point are we viewing our future. Then my brain breaks. :P

[Selene]

I hope you’ll pardon me for commenting here, since I’m new to this board – but I cannot resist saying this:

Has it occurred to anyone here that the “future timeline” story – as it was told to Dan by McConnell/Majestic is part of a deliberate disinformation strategy and that the truth is a reversal of Dan’s version?

That is, that the “Nordic” survivors of the catastrophe are actually the ones who sheltered underground and the debased DNA victims who became the greys were those who were irradiated while remaining on the surface?

Makes sense, doesn’t it? The ‘official’ story – that those who remained on the surface thrived – is screwy. If the official version were true, why would Majestic begin building massive survival bunkers deep underground if they were destined to become the cosmic losers thereby? They’d be pushing the rest of us down there instead.

That is, if McConnell knew (via his Looking Glass and what the P-54’s had told them) that:

• The earth would undergo a catastrophic energy-led disaster while passing through this part of the galaxy,

• But a portion of the population would survive by sheltering underground to become the genetically superior [Nordic] beings, and

• Many would be lost to genetic degradation (not by remaining underground, surely, if the energy source was galactic and external) and ultimately lose the ability to reproduce their species,

What sane person would elect to remain on the surface?

Now a problem, of course, remains: How to keep the great unwashed at bay and away from the DUMB’s? How to keep us nobly and loyally on the surface as the disaster unfolds? McConnell also knows that one day Dan Burisch will be “turned loose” to become the official face of disclosure.

So he tells Dan “the whole story”...except...except...for changing one itsy-bitsy detail of the narrative. "Scout’s honor, Dan, really.... Trust me."

Ask yourself: Are McConnell/Cheney/Kissinger et al the sort of people who’d try a deception like that?

[shijo]

oh my god it looks like dan burisch....

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I'm sorry, but I can't for the life of me determine what it's supposed to look like upside down.

oh my god it looks like dan burisch

[arctourist]

there's hardly anything that's not disinfo....the only thing i can think of that's for real is the seth material...you can take that to the bank!
so what do we really know? just that it's all make-believe.....believe it!

[peace]

i agree to some level!
would you be able to lead me to the seth material?
thanks in advance.

[Alien Ramone]

That is, if McConnell knew (via his Looking Glass and what the P-54’s had told them) that:
• The earth would undergo a catastrophic energy-led disaster while passing through this part of the galaxy,
• But a portion of the population would survive by sheltering underground to become the genetically superior [Nordic] beings, and
• Many would be lost to genetic degradation (not by remaining underground, surely, if the energy source was galactic and external) and ultimately lose the ability to reproduce their species,
What sane person would elect to remain on the surface?

We can't really know, so for now we just can decide what seems more probable to each of us and can adjust are views as we get more information to try and discern. In the interviews, Dan said that he would need to hold back certain information, but wouldn't give disinformation. I realize we can't really know if he was being truthful or not. Also, In the interview, Kerry did point out the possibility that Dan might have been fed disinformation either by The Majestic or K'aela. I also remember that Kerry touched on the question that you had about why the elite would go underground, considering what the eventual outcome would be? Dan's answer had to do with the point that they were concerned with survival at that point in time, and the events he was talking about happened several thousand years after that.

I can see how over thousands of years, the small percentage of people who survived on the surface would possibly be taller and stronger than those who went underground. I can see how they could eventually rebuild and head off into space. several thousand years is a long time and there would be remnants of existing technology to build upon.

Timeline 1 and timeline 2 are meant as types of timelines where there either isn't a great disaster that kills most of the population or their is. Events that happen in the new variants don't otherwise need to match with what happened in other variants of the timelines. Also Dan has talked about the probability of timeline 2 being avoided. Maybe this time the elite aren't planning on going underground, or at least not for a long period of time, if they are able to get the citizens completely under control through a false flag ET invasion or some other method.

[peace]

gotta say this. i hadn't checked up on the burisch info in awhile. so i did some searching. i guess i hadn't checked in about a year or so. maybe it's being removed from the material, but it feels like his website and any "newer" videos i've seen are staged "productions" i.e. when he's being read his orders to disclose (and i know they know they are video taping), when he's apologizing for any harrassment, and when he's starting to lose his cool when talking to his significant other in his office. just felt scripted, felt staged and felt unnatural. no hate coming from me, but i think the good doctor is really reaching and becoming harder to believe.
two cents and silly to even type, but does anyone else get that feeling?

[Franny]

gotta say this. i hadn't checked up on the burisch info in awhile. so i did some searching. i guess i hadn't checked in about a year or so. maybe it's being removed from the material, but it feels like his website and any "newer" videos i've seen are staged "productions" i.e. when he's being read his orders to disclose (and i know they know they are video taping), when he's apologizing for any harrassment, and when he's starting to lose his cool when talking to his significant other in his office. just felt scripted, felt staged and felt unnatural. no hate coming from me, but i think the good doctor is really reaching and becoming harder to believe.
two cents and silly to even type, but does anyone else get that feeling?

Yes, I noticed several years ago that he would often look to Marcia, to whom he is now married, to see if he should answer a question. He seemed to be under her direction when they were together.

He tells of a time when he had his memory wiped and was sent to another state. But he started to recover his memory and later was allowed to resume his life to some extent. He tells of a severe beating and other dark times.

I always wondered if he was under some level of mind control.

[redeyeblue]

Come on guys this guy Dan Burish/Dan Craine is a complete phoney and anyone who believes this rubbish is living in cloud cookoo land, he was exposed many years ago but is still spinning the UFO circuit. There is no doubt he is a very clever and manipulative man but his story is full of holes, i will not try and list them because there are simply too many to go over from his cure for cancer to aliens and his buddy J Rod.
Here is a link that is written by George Knapp who exposed him a very long time ago, it gives a brief run down on the history of his dealings with Burish/Craine and there is plenty of detailed information if you look around including email correspondences. I think his first wife was called Deborah (she also claimed to be MJ12) whome he met when he was a parole officer and she was out after doing time for drug offences, this Marci Mcdowell she also has another name just cant remember right now but she posted photos of her disecting a downed UFO complete with rubber bands and tubing very high tech indeed. The story is a whopper and complete rubbish.

Link for George Knapp overview http://mabusincarnate.8.forumer.com/a/george-knapps-dan-burish-expose_post1549.html

[peace]

gut reaction to anything about him has always been, like noted above, rubbish. i did feel compelled to listen, though, as he can weave a good story. when looking at the eagles disobey homepage i do feel the anger and hate this guy is spewing. seems counter-productive to the ideas of spreading knowledge and of what i think disclosure should be - thought out, objective and rational, all things he does not show. bummed me out a bit.

[slipknotted]

project camelot did an interveiw with him years ago it was pretty good but what stood out was project looking glass which the user could see their future from he said a lot of world leaders would use it, mrs clinton saw that she got assassinated if she became president........... interesting stufff

[peace]

agreed. he has some intensely interesting things to say. i read everything i could and watched all his project camelot - there's just that nagging feeling i'm having.
by the way, i freakin' love slipknot, saw them live a few years back, one of the best shows i've witnessed!