Dinosaurs - Anyone Know A 'Valid' Reason For Their Extinction?

[what is a name?]

The title sort of leads onto other musings...

Reptiles have been around a lot longer than humanoids on Earth.

Would reptiles have gone through the same 'learning curve' as humans?

Would this mean they 'evolved' far beyond an iguana chasing around insects?

Would Universal Law mean they had the chance to 'expand' their consciousness?

Has anyone heard or been told by any source of our planets previous occupants 'impact' on the solar system?

Could this explain the reptilian influence from abductees testimonies?

Would this mean that both positive and negative reptiles 'evolved' beyond our 3d density landscape? Or only negative?

Would ancient myths of dragons account for the above?

Nothing happens by 'accident', did the dinosaur extinction (as we've been told) happen due to a natural disaster, or did they evolve beyond our 3d density/awareness?

If it was a (pre-planned) natural disaster, was this for the greater-good of the Universe, or was it from a negative/control standpoint?

To think that humanoids are the first life forms on Earth to reach this 'pinnacle' is a most human way to think, and of course all religions, education, governments would scoff at any suggestion otherwise - and I would say that is by design - but who's design?

[greybeard]

I remember reading some years back, that the remains were found to have recently eaten food within them. So whatever happened it must have been very sudden.
Many reasons given-Super volcanic eruption blanketing the sun--so instant freeze--or meteorite in the Gulf--take your pick.

Chris

[Did You See Them]

in 2063 McDonalds gain the first licence to "hunt" dinosaurs after the advent of time travel.
Our Grand Children eat em all with fries !!

As to what really happened to them - your guess is as good as mine but I wouldn't even discount the possibility of the above being right as implausible as it sounds !

[norman]

I'm not even sure they did become extinct. They wern't really reptiles.



Where do birds come from ?

[spade]

I reckon most of them were chimeras with nephilim DNA, wiped out during the great flood (that's why you can find their bones all over the earth) - which in turn caused the atmospheric pressure to drop tremendously, making it near impossible to carry on living long and gigantic lives after the flood.

[DeDukshyn]

I actually have a bit of a hard time believing they didn't evolve into bipedal, reptilian versions of hominids - it would seem the natural progression of evolution.

Maybe the "reptilians" we refer to as "aliens" are actually our ancient ancestors. Maybe they are the famed "dragons" of ancient lore. Maybe they moved underground and off earth to avoid conflict with ancient humans - maybe the destruction of Atlantis happened as a result of this conflict.

There's a conspiracy theory for each of those, I just threw them altogether. :)

[uzn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfMHQtQW0AcI_CS.jpg

[Foxie Loxie]

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Too funny, uzn!!

Whatever the Great Catastrophe was; may be that the change in atmospheric pressure, etc., no longer would support their huge bodies?

There are some who say that we still have them with us today; just not in HUGE bodies! I suppose there are as many "explanations" as there are people!! :sherlock:

[Mari]

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I have a feeling that their time had simply come - maybe to make way for other life-forms to have their turn? Very simplistic I know.

[The Moss Trooper]

I read recently, somewhere, that after a genetic study the results showed that nearly all of Earth's animal species appeared at the same time.

Ahhhh.......... here it is.

Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/228798/20180530/massive-genetic-study-reveals-90-percent-of-earth-s-animals-appeared-at-the-same-time.htm

I can't agree with this statement though, (bolding mine):-
More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

[Sunny-side-up]

Years ago I did read a statement by some scientist that certain, relatively small bodied Dino’s had reached a brain size and condition, that if they had carried on living, they could well have evolved to our level or higher.

They already had better hunting capabilities than us, size strength, so if they carried on evolving into group-hunter-gatherers and then on into settled farming with domestication, a similar path to us, they would be here now not us and we would be pets or food.

Just suppose they had developed ‘Telepathy’, they could have well supposed us in comparison to our path.

I think we have been led to believe we are the pinnacle (Soul wise we are) of evolution but really we are just bio-engineered slave machines and because of the ‘Soul’ we are worth keeping by our makers.

Nearly if not all reports of alien interaction says suggests they are ‘Telepathic’
We are mental midgets, cripples as far as ‘telepathy’ goes, and we are very low on that evolutionary path.

I think some Dino’s where saved and or evolved to higher levels than us, where are they now, are they here or do they visit us?

Maybe the Dino's where our makers?

This planet is a farm, it’s also a test bed IMO

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm sure 'gravity' must've played a part in some sense in order for those terrible lizards to be able to move. Is there any evidence that the forces at play were any weaker during that time?

sunny-side-up:


We are mental midgets, cripples as far as ‘telepathy’ goes, and we are very low on that evolutionary path.

I dunno, I think our telepathic skills are 'educated' out of us by the school and social systems. Telepathy seems to be very strong in young children...... losing that skill as we enter said systems.

[Bill Ryan]

My favorite dinosaur-and-asteroid cartoon. :) (But do a search... there are many more)

http://projectavalon.net/Missing_the_Big_Picture.gif

[Bluegreen]

;)

http://i.pinimg.com/474x/95/ac/8b/95ac8be456eba904ece3b69e2dca12c2--far-side-cartoons-funny-cartoons.jpg

[Mari]

;)

http://i.pinimg.com/474x/95/ac/8b/95ac8be456eba904ece3b69e2dca12c2--far-side-cartoons-funny-cartoons.jpg

I just love Gary Larson's stuff!!

[Mari]

Couldn't resist...

https://s14-eu5.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Flowres.cartoonstock.com%2Fanimals-noah-ark-boat-dinosaur-diplodocous-wpa0874_low.jpg&sp=96eb3f145f87f99ed2d650dc99eb17d6

[Mari]

You've started something, Bill!


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[Cardillac]

all cartoons aside, reptiles are the one one species that have never, ever evolved; alligators and crocodiles are the remnants of dinosoars; should we also throw in snakes, iguanas. etc. into that category?

not only that but no primates, cats, dogs, etc. have evolved much over the millenia- none have learned how to speak among many other things-

only we homo sapiens sapiens have evolved-

Larry

[Bill Ryan]

I'm sure 'gravity' must've played a part in some sense in order for those terrible lizards to be able to move. Is there any evidence that the forces at play were any weaker during that time?



Intriguingly, one hypothesis is that the Earth has been slowly and steadily growing in size — and with it, its gravity. See this thread:


Is the Earth expanding? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97720-Is-the-Earth-expanding)

It's near-impossible to think of any physical mechanism to explain this, but the jigsaw puzzle pieces of the moving continents do fit quite well. :)

Separately, it's believed many of the large plant-eating dinosaurs (brontosaurus, diplodocus, brachiosaurus, etc) spent a lot of time in shallow water, rather like giant hippopotami, where their great weight would have been partially supported.

[ghostrider]

A destroyer comet , changed the hours of the earth day and it's rotation , passing by earth every 575.5 years ... Depending upon earth's position the destroyer hurled seabeds out of their normal paths ... later in history this same comet it is said to have been responsible for the plagues of Egypt , bringing our moon to earth , and changing the orbits of Mars and Venus ... my source - the plejaren leader Ptaah ... the dinosaurs were victims of the destroyer comet , which was accidentally brought to our universe by the forefathers of the plejaren... this is what they say i can't prove any of it ...

[Zampano]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/253/818/086.jpg

Double take :-)

[Sunny-side-up]

all cartoons aside, reptiles are the one one species that have never, ever evolved; alligators and crocodiles are the remnants of dinosoars; should we also throw in snakes, iguanas. etc. into that category?

not only that but no primates, cats, dogs, etc. have evolved much over the millenia- none have learned how to speak among many other things-

only we homo sapiens sapiens have evolved-

Larry

Hi Larry

I don't think we actually evolved Larry we where altered, manufactured to be of a level and self reliant.

Other hominids inhabit this globe as well, like the Bigfoot which seems to be able to hide in the fringes of our reality by means of paranormal means: Shape-shifting, invisibility and or frequency shifting and even use bio chemical defences like rancid smells that cause panic and flight responses in us.

All reptiles that we are aware of on this planet don't seem to have developed much apart from those that fly (Flying creatures are held in very high esteem by many more spiritual cultures and considered above us (no pun intended))

we Homo Sapien sapiens + how many MK levels more than that are not normal to this planet IMO

It us and the Dino's are all part of this mixed and amazing life show here ha ;)

[Humblebrightfame]

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[petra]

I actually have a bit of a hard time believing they didn't evolve into bipedal, reptilian versions of hominids - it would seem the natural progression of evolution.

Maybe the "reptilians" we refer to as "aliens" are actually our ancient ancestors. Maybe they are the famed "dragons" of ancient lore. Maybe they moved underground and off earth to avoid conflict with ancient humans - maybe the destruction of Atlantis happened as a result of this conflict.

There's a conspiracy theory for each of those, I just threw them altogether. :)

Oh really! I thought I "conspired" those on my own (ha ha). Seems plausible to me too. I feel like there maybe a link with immortality too - for example crocodiles don't really die of old age, they just get to be so big that they can't sustain themselves any longer.



Could this explain the reptilian influence from abductees testimonies?


There's got to be a link - that's why I am reading this! :)



Nothing happens by 'accident', did the dinosaur extinction (as we've been told) happen due to a natural disaster, or did they evolve beyond our 3d density/awareness?

If it was a (pre-planned) natural disaster, was this for the greater-good of the Universe, or was it from a negative/control standpoint?

To think that humanoids are the first life forms on Earth to reach this 'pinnacle' is a most human way to think, and of course all religions, education, governments would scoff at any suggestion otherwise - and I would say that is by design - but who's design?

That's so complicated!
Maybe we need to define evolution more. " did they evolve beyond our 3d density/awareness? "... I feel like I should Yes, but at the same time I don't think evolve is the right word. Does evolution end at being immortal? I really don't think that it does.

[hermit]

*We do need to define evolution.

Guided vs. non-guided.

Also, it's important to remember that these ideas are speculative/theoretical.

How much does a large vegetarian dinosaur eat? How much poop does a single dinosaur produce?

Jeese.....the tomatos I coulda grown with that kind of fertilizer. ;)

So along the line of speculation! Suppose a small event created a situation in which the plant life that was thriving simply died/vanished? Consider today the massive amount of mega fires that are consuming forests at an alarming rate. Those conditions could exist hypothetically during normal changes in earth climatology, changes that are proported, or even some kind of a fungal infection/mould could take down key plant species. That would in theory create a serious slap in the food chain that would show up down the line as mass extinctions--except, of course, for species that were able to adapt (if you're going to accept one of several models of evolutionary theory).

You don't need the comet. It's a convenient "god of the gap".

Or is it?

Simples solution, even if it's the least interesting of speculations, is probably the most likely.

Time travel McDonald's. Clearly.

[Baby Steps]

I actually have a bit of a hard time believing they didn't evolve into bipedal, reptilian versions of hominids - it would seem the natural progression of evolution.

Maybe the "reptilians" we refer to as "aliens" are actually our ancient ancestors. Maybe they are the famed "dragons" of ancient lore. Maybe they moved underground and off earth to avoid conflict with ancient humans - maybe the destruction of Atlantis happened as a result of this conflict.

There's a conspiracy theory for each of those, I just threw them altogether. :)

https://i.imgur.com/Pmro6WI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PBPk8AR.jpg

Perhaps I listened to too much 'Lacerta' material.

The dinosaurs represented a huge evolutionary leap from other lizards (including Iguanas, Crocodiles etc). Something changed in their hip, that allowed them to stand upright. This frees the front arms to get into holding branches, prey etc. It is also the main change needed for them to move towards tool usage, which according to primate evolution was a driver of the rise of man.



Did the Dino's get that far? Well the iguanadon had a thumb, but it was not opposable, it was a slashing/stabbing weapon. However it DID have an opposable finger.

The next big change to the Dinos was at some point they moved from cold blooded-piokilothermic- (they needed to absorb heat from the environment like all reptiles, so were dependent on a warm environment or basking), to 'warm blooded' - homeothermic, whereby the animal maintains its own temperature within a narrow range in order to maintain body chemistry. This leap requires a much higher consumption of calories, but allows them to live in much colder environments. This leap gave us the mammals and the birds , who sprung from the dinos.

What natural history is a bit fuzzy on is whether there were 'warm blooded' dinosaurs, or was it just proto-birds.(like archeopteryx)

Feathers are the marker, and at the latter stages, there were feathered dinosaurs. Once you get a warm blooded pre-bird dinosaur, certain environments become livable, like the colder climes and caves. You could have had a cave dwelling Dinosaur.

Let's move back to today. If there was a huge asteroid strike - or nuclear war - which humans would survive? The ones who had access to underground refuges.

The Iridium in sediments from the time of the 'extinction' of the Dinosaurs is consistent with a meteor strike rather than a nuclear event. If there was a meteor created winter, the animals that would survive are those who can cope with the cold.

https://i.imgur.com/jc5mLDP.jpg

[hermit]

Isn't there a theory out there that the greys are the result of what happens on earth (read nuclear war) and that they're actually what humans become, travelling backwards in time, for something or other?

[Foxie Loxie]

Good "visuals" on the video, Humble! One wonders how many Great Catastrophes there were on this planet?!
The Great Flood was surely one of them, with so many cultures around the world retaining memories of it!

[Mari]

And all because she plucked that apple from the tree? I'm joking of course. Seems there have been many catastrophes & some say we are due another....:behindsofa:

Though I've always felt that if it happens, it wont be man-made (we are protected) but rather Earth will 'cleanse' herself. What that may entail is anybody's guess!

[DeDukshyn]

... This leap requires a much higher consumption of calories, but allows them to live in much colder environments. This leap gave us the mammals and the birds , who sprung from the dinos.
...


One correction to this fine bit of dino history. Mammals did not evolve from Dinosaurs. Very early mammals actually started before dinosaurs, were nearly made extinct, then evolved into more modern mammals alongside the dinosaurs. They dinosaurs mysteriously vanished while the mammals continued to evolve.