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mindbend8r
4th September 2018, 07:20
and its not the big bang. Ill try to keep it short and simplify my thought cause its kind of hard to explain in words but ill try.

I think that the light in the universe came from the higher light dimensions down into this 3rd dark dimension. The 3rd dimension had no light in it. That either by a natural event or maybe manipulated by the spirit world that the light from the higher dimension punched holes into the 3rd dimension which are the black holes at the center of every galaxy. It punched through and the light leaked through from the higher dimension through the black whole into the 3rd dimension and created a vacuum sucking the light back into the black hole. This would also explain how the galaxies were created because all the stars and planets are the light from the higher dimension that busted through the black hole and that light became the stars and planet and matter and such.

I think it makes sense because you never see just floating stars or planets just in the middle of space they are always attached to galaxies. That all of the light in the universe circles around the black holes from every galaxy. I think it could be because when the light came through the black hole is dispersed around the black hole and just became the spinning galaxies.

It was just something I was think about.

Antagenet
4th September 2018, 07:26
That is a beautiful theory!!!!

mindbend8r
4th September 2018, 07:46
thanks a lot antagenet

Did You See Them
4th September 2018, 10:14
It tend to think the "universe" is "Thought" !

The very concept of "nothing" can only exist if there is a concept of "something".
Linear time is the illusion and the problem - giving us the notion that there must be a starting point or "big Bang" - as we can't comprehend the idea of an alpha/omega infinity whilst within this "thought bubble" we call our universe.

EDIT - Just saw this news article after posting - interesting !

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Physicists from the University of Queensland and the Neel Institute believe they have found the answer: both can come first.
Dr Jacqui Romero, from the Australian Research Council, explained: "The weirdness of quantum mechanics means that events can happen without a set order.

"Take the example of your daily trip to work, where you travel partly by bus and partly by train.

"Normally, you would take the bus then the train, or the other way round. In our experiment, both of these events can happen first."

Dr Romero added that this was called "indefinite causal order" - although it is not something that scientists could observe in everyday life.

https://news.sky.com/story/both-the-chicken-and-the-egg-came-first-according-to-quantum-physics-11489999

greybeard
4th September 2018, 10:30
From the Mystics point of view, everything is consciousness.
Awareness is prior to all else--Universes come and go--Consciousness is eternal.
So you could say that the Universe is a thought of the Ulitimate.

If there is interest in spirituality then reading "I am That" by Nisargadatta
or checking out this thread on Avalon by Tim a member,might be beneficial to help to get to the root of everything.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904

Chris

mindbend8r
4th September 2018, 14:48
yes I think everything is consciousness, the plants the rocks the trees the planets the stars and ourselves. I think of consciousness in its raw form looks like light. I call it the special light cause its light but a different kind of light then sun light and the upper dimension are all of this special light consciousness, where we came from. Or maybe its even god consciousness. But that is what im trying to say is that all that light that came through the black holes from the upper dimensions was actually consciousness. That is how consciousness entered into this universe. Then it is our job as conscious beings and through living lives to create in this universe with our own consciousness to create with it, we interact with it and form it into creations. And all life all through the universe.

Foxie Loxie
4th September 2018, 17:59
Who was it that said, "All matter is frozen light." :confused:

greybeard
4th September 2018, 18:52
Who was it that said, "All matter is frozen light." :confused:

What I remember is.
Formless became form --became limited--compressed.
Full consciousness became restricted consciousness--forgot what it is.
Somewhere else it said "God" became everything without restricting or diminishing it self.
In your natural state you are That--consciousness--awareness unlimited.
The enlightened the Self Realized are uniform in what they say.

Chris

O Donna
4th September 2018, 19:17
Since posts are limited to use of symbols (media) to convey...

Light supersedes theories of.

Thus a different symbol, call it "Black/ Night/ Dark" can be thought of as a secondary light and that in which theory and other mindful things are conveyed.

Whoops, that is a theory as well. Sorry to moon you all.

http://rs903.pbsrc.com/albums/ac232/drdoolittle/Icons%20Animated/Butt-Elephant.gif~c200

Keeping it light, sisters and brothers, keeping it light. :crazy_pilot:

(Moon; symbolic of secondary/ false light when the sun is used symbolically for Light)

Satori
5th September 2018, 21:16
Since posts are limited to use of symbols (media) to convey...

Light supersedes theories of.

Thus a different symbol, call it "Black/ Night/ Dark" can be thought of as a secondary light and that in which theory and other mindful things are conveyed.

Whoops, that is a theory as well. Sorry to moon you all.

http://rs903.pbsrc.com/albums/ac232/drdoolittle/Icons%20Animated/Butt-Elephant.gif~c200

Keeping it light, sisters and brothers, keeping it light. :crazy_pilot:

(Moon; symbolic of secondary/ false light when the sun is used symbolically for Light)

"OK, so what's the speed of dark?" (Steven Wright)

O Donna
6th September 2018, 04:58
"OK, so what's the speed of dark?" (Steven Wright)

(shifts reading glasses on nose) If my calculations are right, less than infinite. :)

Sunny-side-up
6th September 2018, 21:21
Who was it that said, "All matter is frozen light." :confused:

I think that might have been Mr Eric Dollard Foxie.

Sunny-side-up
6th September 2018, 21:43
I haven't been following this post, but it's a good one.

My gut tells me that in the beginning as we say, all was light already.

Some thing happened like a rupture that caused a condensing of light, this condensing was not uniform, it was clumpy.
This clumping caused black-holes which in-turn caused stars and galaxies and matter.

It will happen again if the universe keeps expending, it will become all light, not a bright light but a dim dispersal of the matter and photons.
Then it will rupture again causing a clumping and a contrast, light and dark.

Another thing, to my gut brain the 'Light realms' actually means lite weight realms as in non material, Etheric realms.

Etheric realm of etheric non material light as seen by the 3rd eye, by the mind and or by being of that realm.

It was all consciousness, all spiritual, Etheric and there was no matter.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2LAHy_NDMbpnQGi975Z_8yswD_rHoKee4w87rcDWOH7fJRr5m
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQsGiDTAK2M8G1cFZO73jFb2GpyqocqD2ljXTBOr9M42YKlb-Wp

Just my gut talking :sun:

Foxie Loxie
6th September 2018, 22:23
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Sunny! Will we ever KNOW?! :sherlock:

O Donna
7th September 2018, 02:41
..........., all was light already.

Some thing happened like a rupture that caused.......

That which is all, there is nothing to rupture (for example) and nothing to cause a rupture. (Another example) Pure cannot all the sudden have impurities when all is and always has been pure.

Where does 'some thing' come from when all is all? All isn't all if there is some thing else.

Just playing the devil's advocate, it's a basic Centric-style predicament, one for the ages. Any answer is temporary until the turtle is found below it.

https://athenae25.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dividebyzero.jpg

What it looks like when I put the idea in my pipe and smoke it:

http://trulydeeply.4iw8iavu4p8cnyjybd.maxcdn-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/creative-mind2.jpg

:)

Sunny-side-up
7th September 2018, 18:24
..........., all was light already.

Some thing happened like a rupture that caused.......

That which is all, there is nothing to rupture (for example) and nothing to cause a rupture. (Another example) Pure cannot all the sudden have impurities when all is and always has been pure.

Where does 'some thing' come from when all is all? All isn't all if there is some thing else.

Just playing the devil's advocate, it's a basic Centric-style predicament, one for the ages. Any answer is temporary until the turtle is found below it.

https://athenae25.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dividebyzero.jpg

What it looks like when I put the idea in my pipe and smoke it:

http://trulydeeply.4iw8iavu4p8cnyjybd.maxcdn-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/creative-mind2.jpg

:)

:)

Eventually something gives and or wont's/needs to change.
Nothing is perfect, even god tests to make sure ;)

If all was an ever dispersing realm of light, each photon was ever getting further apart, (to view this from near it would seem black, but to view from great distance it would be a dim uniform faint light) further and further apart, there came a point where the connection was too weak, Ping.
Then a snap back and a backlash out again forming areas of condensed light, gases and matter, universe.

All of each sequence taking unimaginable time to happen, but speeded up from a view point out side of time it was a mere Blink of an eye.

just my musings.

T Smith
7th September 2018, 23:47
But that is what im trying to say is that all that light that came through the black holes from the upper dimensions was actually consciousness. That is how consciousness entered into this universe.

Maybe consciousness entering into itself? Even dark 3rd dimension is consciousness, perhaps at lower vibration, but still consciousness...

So, to expand your idea, maybe its consciousness entering into itself, to self examine via creation and expansion of being?