View Full Version : QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?
Hervé
31st July 2019, 13:47
The question worth getting an answer to : "Cui Bono? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108165-Mind-The-Corporate-Mindfulness&p=1307776&viewfull=1#post1307776)"
How the question "Who benefits from this?" can change your life (https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/07/30/how-the-question-who-benefits-from-this-can-change-your-life/)
Caitlin Johnstone caitlinjohnstone.com (https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/07/30/how-the-question-who-benefits-from-this-can-change-your-life/)
Tue, 30 Jul 2019 00:01 UTC
https://www.sott.net/image/s26/532136/large/cui_bono.png (https://www.sott.net/image/s26/532136/full/cui_bono.png)
"Cui bono (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono)?" is a phrase you'll often see used on conspiracy-minded Youtube videos and discussion forums. It's Latin for "Who benefits?", and it refers to a perspective in legal analysis that the one who stands most to gain from a crime is often the perpetrator. It's the "motive" part of "means, motive and opportunity (https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Means%2C_motive%2C_and_opportunity.html)".
The term comes up in conspiracy circles a lot because motive is often the biggest plot hole in the official story promoted by the authorized narrative managers of the political/media class about a given event. The alleged Douma chemical attack (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/confirmed-chemical-weapons-assessment-contradicting-official-syria-narrative-is-authentic-fbcbf7ef281a) last year, for example, had no discernible benefit (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/four-reasons-why-interventionism-in-syria-is-crazy-and-stupid-1e1f5fe51e3e) to the Assad government whatsoever, but would have benefited the cornered Al-Qaeda affiliates (https://southfront.org/jaysh-al-islam-officially-unites-with-al-qaeda-in-eastern-ghouta/) in the city by provoking air strikes from the west, so there remains a lot of skepticism from those who don't automatically believe their government and the plutocratic media when they say that Damascus was responsible. Such skepticism is dismissively branded "conspiracy theory" by the establishment narrative managers (https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/05/21/establishment-narrative-managers-struggle-with-new-syria-plot-holes/), but it is fully justified.
So it's a useful concept for analyzing world events in a way that punches through the fog of imperial propaganda. But the question "Who benefits from this?" can, and should, be taken much further.
Don't just ask "Cui bono?" of potential false flag events. Ask it about every belief in your head. Rigorously holding that candle up to the ideas in your own mind will reveal a lot of junk floating around in there that benefit other people, both the powerful and the not-so-powerful.
To pick one of many possible examples, it's very interesting how many of America's ostensibly anti-establishment movements encourage their adherents to support one of America's two mainstream establishment political parties. The so-called "Resistance" and the progressive movement both herd people who might otherwise support actual leftist movements into the oligarchic folds of the Democratic Party, as does even the lesser-evil voting promoted by those closer to the fringe like Noam Chomsky (https://chomsky.info/an-eight-point-brief-for-lev-lesser-evil-voting/). On the right you've got the warmongering corporate whore party of the Republicans being enthusiastically backed by the MAGA crowd, who you'll routinely see backing garden variety GOP agendas like the Supreme Court nomination of a longtime Bush lackey (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/brett-kavanaugh-trump-connection-734465/) in the name of fighting the establishment. Closer to the fringe you've got the insufferable QAnon cult (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-you-can-be-100-certain-that-qanon-is-bull****-57b7c6abb368), who consistently argue that every Trump move from Assange's arrest to bombing Syria is a brilliant 5-D chess maneuver against the Deep State.
If those in any of these various factions began sincerely asking the question "Who benefits from my believing this?" about the various reasons they hold for espousing their respective political positions, the answer would come back clear as day that of course the ones who benefit are the plutocratic class which owns both mainstream political parties (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig) and the opaque government agencies with which that class is aligned. In the flurry of reasons being proffered in favor of supporting a given faction, it's easy to overlook the fact that some very powerful people are likely to benefit from that support.
All the information going around about what's going on in the world is like this. News media must be consumed with an acute awareness that there are extremely powerful people who have a vested interest in manipulating the way you think and perceive. It's just a fact, and if it isn't at the forefront of your consciousness, your worldview will necessarily be severely malformed. Cultivating a reflexive curiosity about who benefits from a given narrative being promoted nips this in the bud.
But this isn't just limited to news media. We get tons of stupid ideas in our heads from things like advertising, which obviously benefit no one but the advertisers and their employers. Women in particular are plagued with body image problems from being pummeled from a very early age with corporate psyops designed for precisely that purpose, and as a result we feed billions of dollars into various interests who profit from our belief that we shouldn't have small tits or wrinkles or body fat.
Religion is another one (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/who-has-profited-from-your-beliefs-f9239a432d8c). There are of course many immensely wealthy and powerful structures today which benefit from adherents to religion, but most of those who've benefited from widespread religious indoctrination aren't even alive anymore. Governments and world religions have historically been inextricably intertwined with and supportive of each other, because religions can be used to manipulate the masses into believing that it's virtuous to be poor, humble, meek, submissive and obedient, to "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's", and to believe it would be generally sinful to use the power of their numbers to kill their rulers and seize their wealth. The answer to "Who benefits from my religious beliefs?", if you're Christian, is something along the lines of "All existing Christian churches, all existing political structures built around exploiting Christian beliefs for political leverage, every preacher, pope and bishop who's ever lived, and every western ruler since Emperor Constantine."
Many of the beliefs which have been put into our heads for someone else's benefit don't profit the powerful at all; many of them have been implanted by our own loved ones. It's unfortunate, but friends and family members will often have a vested interest in putting beliefs in our heads which don't benefit us but them. Such beliefs often revolve around keeping us from getting above our station, from feeling too good about ourselves so that we don't go off and improve our lives instead of staying in the confining circles we were born into. Others can include believing positive things about loved ones who were actually destructive and abusive to us. Some of them are as simple as beliefs about how we are and how we should be that kept us from talking back to our parents, which if left unexamined can create submissive psychological postures in us that can stay with us to the grave. We form a lot of the beliefs we have about ourselves from the feedback we get from other people, so even something said decades ago by a schoolmate who was only interested in keeping us from rising above them in social status can continue to warp our self image.
From ground-level to the highest echelons of power, there are people who have been benefiting from the beliefs in our heads. Only by doing the necessary inner work and asking "Cui bono?" of all the ideas we believe about our world, our society, our community and ourselves can we sift apart the untrue from the true and construct a clear-eyed worldview which benefits no one but ourselves and our fellow man. Someone's benefiting from the beliefs in our heads, and, very often, it ain't us.
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Constance
31st July 2019, 20:30
This video was actually a debate on political correctness but what surprised me the most was how the debaters responded to each other. I think I learned more about how not to debate in this video than I learned about what the debators were debating about!
However, there was one brilliant takeaway regarding group identity...
@ 1.51.25 blogger/author Michelle Goldberg says
[...] And I would finally say that I think there is a fair amount of research that people become more close-minded, more tribal when they feel threatened, when they feel their group identity is at stake. [...]
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Political correctness: a force for good? A Munk Debate
Kryztian
2nd August 2019, 21:41
I am not agreeing with much in this article, but it does explain how Qanon, like Flat Eartherism, does make it difficult for serious, critical thinking conspiracy theorists to be taken seriously.
FBI Document Warns Conspiracy Theories Are A New Domestic Terrorism Threat
A recent intelligence bulletin comes as the FBI is facing pressure to explain who it considers an extremist, and how the government prosecutes domestic terrorists.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fbi-domestic-terrorism_n_5d430db7e4b0acb57fc91818
The FBI for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat, according to a previously unpublicized document obtained by Yahoo News. (Read the document below.)
The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.
The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).
“The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts,” the document states. It also goes on to say the FBI believes conspiracy theory-driven extremists are likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.
The FBI said another factor driving the intensity of this threat is “the uncovering of real conspiracies or cover-ups involving illegal, harmful, or unconstitutional activities by government officials or leading political figures.” The FBI does not specify which political leaders or which cover-ups it was referring to.
President Trump is mentioned by name briefly in the latest FBI document, which notes that the origins of QAnon is the conspiratorial belief that “Q,” allegedly a government official, “posts classified information online to reveal a covert effort, led by President Trump, to dismantle a conspiracy involving ‘deep state’ actors and global elites allegedly engaged in an international child sex trafficking ring.”
This recent intelligence bulletin comes as the FBI is facing pressure to explain who it considers an extremist, and how the government prosecutes domestic terrorists. In recent weeks the FBI director has addressed domestic terrorism multiple times but did not publicly mention this new conspiracy theorist threat.
The FBI is already under fire for its approach to domestic extremism. In a contentious hearing last week before the Senate Judiciary Committee, FBI Director Christopher Wray faced criticism from Democrats who said the bureau was not focusing enough on white supremacist violence. “The term ‘white supremacist,’ ‘white nationalist’ is not included in your statement to the committee when you talk about threats to America,” Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said. “There is a reference to racism, which I think probably was meant to include that, but nothing more specific.”
Wray told lawmakers the FBI had done away with separate categories for black identity extremists and white supremacists, and said the bureau was instead now focusing on “racially motivated” violence. But he added, “I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence.”
The FBI had faced mounting criticism for the term “black identity extremists,” after its use was revealed by Foreign Policy magazine in 2017. Critics pointed out that the term was an FBI invention based solely on race, since no group or even any specific individuals actually identify as black identity extremists.
In May, Michael C. McGarrity, the FBI’s assistant director of the counterterrorism division, told Congress the bureau now “classifies domestic terrorism threats into four main categories: racially motivated violent extremism, anti-government/anti-authority extremism, animal rights/environmental extremism, and abortion extremism,” a term the bureau uses to classify both pro-choice and anti-abortion extremists.
The new focus on conspiracy theorists appears to fall under the broader category of anti-government extremism. “This is the first FBI product examining the threat from conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists and provides a baseline for future intelligence products,” the document states.
The new category is different in that it focuses not on racial motivations, but on violence based specifically on beliefs that, in the words of the FBI document, “attempt to explain events or circumstances as the result of a group of actors working in secret to benefit themselves at the expense of others” and are “usually at odds with official or prevailing explanations of events.”
The FBI acknowledges conspiracy theory-driven violence is not new, but says it’s gotten worse with advances in technology combined with an increasingly partisan political landscape in the lead-up to the 2020 presidential election. “The advent of the Internet and social media has enabled promoters of conspiracy theories to produce and share greater volumes of material via online platforms that larger audiences of consumers can quickly and easily access,” the document says.
The bulletin says it is intended to provide guidance and “inform discussions within law enforcement as they relate to potentially harmful conspiracy theories and domestic extremism.”
The FBI Phoenix field office referred Yahoo News to the bureau’s national press office, which provided a written statement.
“While our standard practice is to not comment on specific intelligence products, the FBI routinely shares information with our law enforcement partners in order to assist in protecting the communities they serve,” the FBI said.
In its statement, the FBI also said it can “never initiate an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity. As with all of our investigations, the FBI can never monitor a website or a social media platform without probable cause.”
The Department of Homeland Security, which has also been involved in monitoring domestic extremism, did not return or acknowledge emails and phone requests for comment.
While not all conspiracy theories are deadly, those identified in the FBI’s 15-page report led to either attempted or successfully carried-out violent attacks. For example, the Pizzagate conspiracy led a 28-year-old man to invade a Washington, D.C., restaurant to rescue the children he believed were being kept there, and fire an assault-style weapon inside.
The FBI document also cites an unnamed California man who was arrested on Dec. 19, 2018, after being found with what appeared to be bomb-making materials in his car. The man allegedly was planning “blow up a satanic temple monument” in the Capitol rotunda in Springfield, Ill., to “make Americans aware of Pizzagate and the New World Order, who were dismantling society,” the document says.
Historian David Garrow, the author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Martin Luther King Jr. who has worked extensively with FBI archives, raised doubts to Yahoo News about the memo. He says the FBI’s default assumption is that violence is motivated by ideological beliefs rather than mental illness. “The guy who shot up the pizza place in D.C.: Do we think of him as a right-wing activist, or insane?” Garrow asked.
Garrow was similarly critical of the FBI’s use of the term “black identity extremists” and related attempts to ascribe incidents like the 2016 shooting of six police officers in Baton Rouge, La., to black radicalism. He said the shooter, Gavin Long, had a history of mental health problems. “The bureau’s presumption — the mindset — is to see ideological motives where most of the rest of us see individual nuttiness,” he said.
Identifying conspiracy theories as a threat could be a political lightning rod, since President Trump has been accused of promulgating some of them, with his frequent references to a deep state and his praise in 2015 for Alex Jones, who runs the conspiracy site InfoWars. While the FBI intelligence bulletin does not mention Jones or InfoWars by name, it does mention some of the conspiracy theories frequently associated with the far-right radio host, in particular the concept of the New World Order.
Jones claimed the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, in which 26 children were killed, was a hoax, a false flag operation intended as a pretext for the government to seize or outlaw firearms. The families of a number of victims have sued Jones for defamation, saying his conspiracy-mongering contributed to death threats and online abuse they have received.
While Trump has never endorsed Sandy Hook denialism, he was almost up until the 2016 election the most high-profile promoter of the birther conspiracy that claimed former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. He later dropped his claim, and deflected criticism by pointing the finger at Hillary Clinton. He said her campaign had given birth to the conspiracy, and Trump “finished it.”
There is no evidence that Clinton started the birther conspiracy.
Joe Uscinski, an associate professor of political science at the University of Miami, whose work on conspiracy theories is cited in the intelligence bulletin, said there’s no data suggesting conspiracy theories are any more widespread now than in the past. “There is absolutely no evidence that people are more conspiratorial now,” says Uscinski, after Yahoo News described the bulletin to him. “They may be, but there is not strong evidence showing this.”
It’s not that people are becoming more conspiratorial, says Uscinski, but conspiracies are simply getting more media attention.
“We are looking back at the past with very rosy hindsight to forget our beliefs, pre-internet, in JFK [assassination] conspiracy theories and Red scares. My gosh, we have conspiracy theories about the king [of England] written into the Declaration of Independence,” he said, referencing claims that the king was planning to establish tyranny over the American colonies.
It’s not that conspiracy theorists are growing in number, Uscinski argues, but that media coverage of those conspiracies has grown. “For most of the last 50 years, 60 to 80 percent of the country believe in some form of JFK conspiracy theory,” he said. “They’re obviously not all extremist.”
Conspiracy theories, including Russia’s role in creating and promoting them, attracted widespread attention during the 2016 presidential election when they crossed over from Internet chat groups to mainstream news coverage. Yahoo News’s “Conspiracyland” podcast recently revealed that Russia’s foreign intelligence service was the origin of a hoax report that tied the murder of Seth Rich, a Democratic National Committee staffer, to Hillary Clinton.
Washington police believe that Rich was killed in a botched robbery, and there is no proof that his murder had any political connections.
Among the violent conspiracy theories cited in the May FBI document is one involving a man who thought Transportation Security Administration agents were part of a New World Order. Another focused on the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), a government-funded facility in Alaska that has been linked to everything from death beams to mind control. The two men arrested in connection with HAARP were “stockpiling weapons, ammunition and other tactical gear in preparation to attack” the facility, believing it was being used “to control the weather and prevent humans from talking to God.”
Nate Snyder, who served as a Department of Homeland Security counterterrorism official during the Obama administration, said that the FBI appears to be applying the same radicalization analysis it employs against foreign terrorism, like the Islamic State group, which has recruited followers in the United States.
“The domestic violent extremists cited in the bulletin are using the same playbook that groups like ISIS and al-Qaida have used to inspire, recruit and carry out attacks,” said Snyder, after reviewing a copy of the bulletin provided by Yahoo News. “You put out a bulletin and say this is the content they’re looking at — and it’s some guy saying he’s a religious cleric or philosopher — and then you look at the content, videos on YouTube, etc., that they are pushing and show how people in the U.S. might be radicalized by that content.”
Though the FBI document focuses on ideological motivations, FBI Director Wray, in his testimony last week, asserted that the FBI is concerned only with violence, not people’s beliefs. The FBI doesn’t “investigate ideology, no matter how repugnant,” he told lawmakers. “We investigate violence. And any extremist ideology, when it turns to violence, we are all over it. ... In the first three quarters of this year, we’ve had more domestic terrorism arrests than the prior year, and it’s about the same number of arrests as we have on the international terrorism side.”
Yet the proliferation of the extremist categories concerns Michael German, a former FBI agent and now a fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty & National Security program. “It’s part of the radicalization theory the FBI has promoted despite empirical studies that show it’s bogus,” he said.
German says this new category is a continuing part of FBI overreach. “They like the radicalization theory because it justifies mass surveillance,” he said. “If we know everyone who will do harm is coming from this particular community, mass surveillance is important. We keep broadening the number of communities we include in extremist categories.”
For Garrow, the historian, the FBI’s expansive definition has its roots in bureau paranoia that dates back decades. “I think it’s their starting point,” he said. “This goes all the way back to the Hoover era without question. They see ideology as a central motivating factor in human life, and they don’t see mental health issues as a major factor.”
Yet trying to label a specific belief system as prone to violence is problematic, he said.
“I don’t think most of us would do a good job in predicting what sort of wacky information could lead someone to violence, or not lead anyone to violence,” Garrow said. “Pizzagate would be a great example of that.”
While Trump may not be supportive of labeling a group like QAnon, which sees him as a hero, as extremist, he’s in favor of broadening the number of organizations that are labeled as violent extremists, at least on the left. On Saturday, President Trump tweeted that Antifa, a far-left movement opposed to what it considers fascism, should be labeled a terrorist organization.
Snyder, the former Homeland Security official, agrees that conspiracy theories may in fact inspire violence and be a threat, but questions what the government is going to do about it.
He notes that at the Department of Homeland Security, “nearly all, if not all, the intelligence analysts focusing on domestic extremist groups” were eliminated under the Trump administration. “There is no one there doing this,” he said.
Gaia
7th August 2019, 18:36
Curious his middle name starts with a Q. Guy from Department of Energy with a Q for a middle name. Ah Jeez....Ahhhhhh Jeez ;)
'U.S. State Department Official Involved in White Nationalist Movement, Hatewatch Determines - Southern Poverty Law Center'
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/08/07/us-state-department-official-involved-white-nationalist-movement-hatewatch-determines#.XUsBI7kQML4.twitter
Franny
9th August 2019, 21:32
Recommended by Joseph Ferrell.
The Qiller Q (https://augenguy.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-qiller-q.html)
In fact he says:
If you're following Bernard Grover's articles on the Q phenomenon, then you'll definitely want to read this one, and if you're not following them, then permit me to say, you need to.
It should be noted right off the top that InfinityChan or 8Chan has been dropped by its carrier as of this writing. This is in spite of the fact that Q said several times that it was impossible for this to happen, since it was "in control" of the board. I suspect that Q facilitated this move in order to foster a siege mentality, which is essential for Personality Qults to survive and flourish. Join me with Jeff Rense Friday night, 9 August 2019, for more discussion on this topic.
My father, who was both an historian and a politician, taught me one important lesson that has followed me for life:
Never trust a government any time, anywhere, for any reason.
To that, I would add: most especially when the military gets involved in civilian affairs.
With the Q Phenomenon, we have an anonymous entity which claims to be part of military intelligence manipulating civilian affairs admittedly using disinformation all for the benefit of one person - the President of the United States of America - known as Donald Trump. Taken together, these elements combined in unified action should set off enough alarm bells in a thinking person's head to drown out all other thoughts.
Q2 - military intel operation
From it's second Drop, Q has made it clear that it is a function of military intelligence and that it is supporting POTUS (Trump) in "clearing" out the "Deep State". Just what the Deep State means in the Qnuverse is undefined by Q - though Qvians all 'know' what it is when they see it. Q has also said the "disinformation is necessary," meaning essentially that no one can trust anything Q posts.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4B0oxgPTw0w/XUlDJ4qyFRI/AAAAAAAAMVk/iIOkILOBC305VnPghSCLLHi3LxaJSBBWgCLcBGAs/s1600/Q2%2B-%2Bmil%2Bintel%252C%2BPOTUS%2Bcontrols.PNG
Yet, judging by subscription numbers on various commentator (Acolyte) channels, hundreds of thousands of people not only trust Q, but spread its pronouncements like a surreal gospel.
I am about to make the case that Q is at least partly responsible for the four mass shootings in the US (Gilroy, CA, El Paso, TX, Dayton, OH, Chicago, IL) over the past week. I will use Q's own Drops, but interpret what I see quite a bit differently than the True Q Followers do. Even (or especially) if you are a hard-core Qvian, you should at least hear me out and consider the alternatives to your adopted philosophy.
In my analysis, I don't care which political party, religion, social organizations, or other demographic affiliations the shooters belonged to. I don't care what sympathies the reader has towards government or politics. Those details can and will be argued back and forth for the rest of this news cycle, but these details have nothing to do with what I see.
Q1685 - disinformation is necessary
For many reasons, I don't trust or believe any of the information about these people or the events that are floating around the media and netsphere. Part of what predicates my suspicions is the ongoing talk from POTUS and among the Qvians about national Voter ID and Red Flag gun registries. Another reason is that I view all mass shootings as part of a much larger picture and not existing in a vacuum. That can be interpreted as "flase flag," but really my view is even much wider than that - a form of mass psychosis promulgated by "They" to maintain a constant state of fear and anxiety to deflect attention from "Them".
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WXMH1qY_4FA/XUlI4dKXQSI/AAAAAAAAMVw/Q82ZU6hqxzcCssC7jwTq85SbNbbXoTK_gCLcBGAs/s1600/Q1685%2B-%2Bdisinfo%2Bneceassary.PNG
Having established a context, let's briefly revisit the death of Senator John McCain in August 2018, almost exactly one year ago. Q is widely believed to have accurately predicted McCain's death from brain cancer, not only to the day, but to the minute. The reasoning behind this belief can be found in my article "The Q Prophesy". As I noted then, in order for Q to so accurately predict McCain's death from cancer, it would have had to have a part in killing McCain.
Q3570 - August is HOT
We now find ourselves in a similar situation, only on a much larger scale.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Tj-dywV6D7E/XUlK0HkFoJI/AAAAAAAAMV8/afhxUyqUj4AwQt6BX1XZKPdsGRhl1BeKgCLcBGAs/s1600/Q3570%2B-%2BAugust%2Bis%2BHOT.PNG
On 1 August 2019, Q posted Drop #3570, in which it notes, "The month of AUGUST is traditionally very HOT." Keeping in mind that Q claims to be military intel, then "hot" in military parlance means a situation where one has been discovered and/or a fire-fight ensues. Obviously, four mass shootings in four states in eight days would be considered "hot" situations to a group of military planners. The emphasis on the word "hot" by placing it in all caps tells me that we are to assume it is a term and not a word.
A term is a word or phrase with a special meaning in a given context, such as in law when special terms are capitalized to indicate they have non-standard definitions within the context (four corners) of a law, contract or similar document. The context here is that Q claims a military genesis, so we use that as context to interpret the term "HOT" as meaning live-fire situations.
Q3550-3551 - RED Hot
It is important to note that the California shootings took place on 28 July 2019, the Texas shootings took place on 3 August 2019, and the Ohio and Illinois shootings on 4 August 2019. It's also interesting to note that the California shootings vanished from the news cycle almost as fast as they happened, and the Chicago shootings were drowned out by the almost constant mass killings in that city. Now keep in mind Q's statement was released on 1 August.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xSypxt0OU4A/XUlSud_WKwI/AAAAAAAAMWI/KWXux8I7w-cXDSp9VvHDz8ullgIB5P7RACLcBGAs/s1600/Q3550-3551%2B-%2BRED%2BRED%2BY.PNG
Prior to the 1 August Drop, Q published Drops #3550-3551, on 30 July 2019. These two Drops appear to be a code of some kind, widely interpreted by the Qvians as giving directions to the board operator (aka Code Monkey). There are two seemingly related Drops.
The Drops mention or allude to the number "2" in several ways. The word "Hot" appears twice with the numbers 8 and 9. The term "RED" appears twice. The line "Insert_key" could be a keyboard reference, or using the military context, could mean putting agents into a situation is essential. We also note the California shooting took place before this Drop and received little attention, while the Texas and Ohio events came after and still dominate the news. The Illinois shootings can be written off as just another day in Chicago - noise in the data.
Q3559 - watch the news this week
One could interpret these messages as activation codes for "sleepers," or agents undercover in the field. Going "hot" may mean becoming active, and "RED" might imply blood, emergency or danger. One could also view the numbers 8 and 9 as coded target listings or some similar notation, perhaps agent numbers like 007.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f1UeWB8UfMQ/XUqaJ9etGpI/AAAAAAAAMWU/36rj0arC2hMB97TOjQmbYeepuGzFERXtwCLcBGAs/s1600/Q3559%2B-%2Bwatch%2Bthe%2Bnews%2Bthis%2Bweek.PNG
In fact, this interpretation makes more sense than some kind of computer instruction code. Even the term "insertion" has a military connotation of putting an agent into enemy territory.
Q3568 - 24-hour warning
Also on 30 July 2019, Q posted Drop #3559, telling Qvians to "watch the news this week." This message clearly implies foreknowledge of some major event(s) and that those events would dominate the news cycle, if not deadly. The combination of "see something say something," "watch the news" and the next message (#3568), which clearly gives a 24-hour warning implies Q had full knowledge of something deadly or dangerous.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rN29tti-o-k/XUqcAnztfII/AAAAAAAAMWg/Hlfqb0x7ZHI4C3n2Ir3jbbjDLIMSdtDsACLcBGAs/s1600/Q3568%2B-%2B24%2Bhour%2Bwarning.PNG
No amount of apologetics can wave away the clear impression that Q had foreknowledge of the mass shootings and did not use the full power of the federal government to attempt to stop the events, nor did it use any other channel but its Drops to give a warning. There was no national warning message, no news announcements, nothing other than a few messages on its preferred 8Chan outlet.
Q3570 - August is HOT
At best, this makes Q responsible for the deaths because it did nothing to stop them (accessory after the fact), and at worst, it makes Q guilty of instigating them (first-degree murder). No other conclusions are possible with the given data.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FOMagRD4oRw/XUqiNUeGJNI/AAAAAAAAMWs/KnRafRFyy8IcODKziHlEUXw5Sukvlh2LwCLcBGAs/s1600/Q3570%2B-%2BAugust%2Bis%2BHOT.PNG
Q's final Drop #3570, on 1 August 2019, before being (supposedly) deplatformed again stated that "August is HOT," which I interpret using the military connotation of a live-fire operation (going hot).
Furthermore, since the message covers the entire month of August, we might assume that other events are forthcoming.
In the wake of the shootings, 8Chan was taken down - ostensibly by the provider to silence the "hate speech" on the boards. However, Q has said repeatedly in the wake of being deplatformed last year that it is "in control" and that it had taken steps to secure 8Chan so that it could not be taken down. In my model, this leads to yet another unsavory conclusion.
Over the past two years, Q has gone silent during the months of June and July. I interpret this to be a process called "clearing the waters," whereby an entity that wants to measure how effectively its message is disseminating, stops posting to go into listening mode. This is called q-analysis (https://augenguy.blogspot.com/2018/08/analyzing-q-analysis.html), a kind of data mining where networks are mapped and information is measured, including who is getting the information and what they are doing with it - emailing friends and family, tweeting Drops, making videos, etc.
Q was down for six weeks during June and July 2019, which I view as a "listening" period to see how the message is being received and interpreted. In early July, Q started up again and posted over 200 Drops in July, vanishing again on 1 August 2019, supposedly because of deplatforming - something that was supposed to be impossible at this point.
The way I see it, Q activated sleepers to go do the shootings, while at the same time put out warnings that something "HOT" was coming. The deplatforming, then, is an excuse to go dark again and see what happens with the information before, during and after the shootings. Questions might include who are the distribution hubs and who are their primary, secondary and tertiary contacts (3-hop rule under FISA warrants)? Are the interpretations favorable or unfavorable for Q/POTUS? What actions are the Qvians taking (cross-reference credit card purchases, phone calls, etc.)? How do these items change/evolve over the course of and in the wake of the shootings?
Had 8Chan stayed up after the shootings, Qvians would be demanding more information, but being deplatforming provided a convenient excuse to disappear for a time to perform q-analysis and the Qvians would be sympathetic rather than suspicious of the silence.
The conclusions we get from all this seem very clear and straight-forward:
1) Q is a military intelligence operation with the implied ability to monitor the internet and catch indications of mass killings before they happen;
2) Q confirms this by issuing warnings well ahead of the mass shootings that use language easily interpreted as indicating live-fire events;
3) Q posted two Drops with some kind of Qode that could be waved away as computer instructions, but could also be interpreted in a military context as activation Qodes for sleeper agents;
4) 8Chan was taken down in the wake of the shootings, which Q has said was not possible now, and which can be interpreted as going into "listening" mode for q-analysis to see what internet users/Qvians are doing with the information provided by the Drops.
Thus, Q activated two sleeper agents (RED-RED_y) to do the shootings and either noted targets (8 & 9) or indicated certain agents to do the jobs. Q posted warning messages to "plant the seeds" that it would need to do q-analysis. Q vanished two days before the shootings started so as not to "stir the waters" while analyzing net traffic related to Q. The Qvians reacted as one might expect, praising Q for having predicted the events (a Proof), rather than condemning Q for being complicit in the killings. We expect Q will reappear in the next week or so, after the full data analysis is complete.
Qvians may be able to dismiss this interpretation because it does not fit with their myopic loyalty to an invisible entity, but they can not dismiss it as impossible. It fits the available facts and uses the exact same text they use to find a hero - where I find a villain. It is difficult, given the death of Sen. John McCain and now these incidents, to deny that Q may in fact be acting against the national interests of the people of the USA. For every positive item the Qvians can list, I can simply point to the need for disinformation and the distinct possibility that they are being played for a nefarious purpose.
In any case, there are multiple interpretations of the available data that are plausible and possible. I have used the exact same data available to the Qvians and have not left out anything that could invalidate this analysis.
Beyond all this, Q has convinced its followers that they are under siege and that their Great Leader Donald Trump is being attacked by Dark Forces. This creates and promulgates a Personality Qult. These are classic signs of such and can not be denied, and they are just as applicable to Jim Jones or David Koresh.
We have no objective reason to believe that Donald Trump could become a megalomaniac, given the right set of circumstances and his obviously over-sized ego. Nor do we have any objective reason to trust Q and its motives. One could easily make the cases that Trump is using Q as a front to take full control of the government, or that he is being blackmailed and coerced into Q's dictates, or that Trump is little more than a pitchman for a sinister group of military rouges hell-bent on taking over the world. Compelling cases can be made for any of these scenarios, given what any of us know at this point.
Furthermore, Q has convinced its followers that certain Trump policies, which are clearly and dangerously anti-Constitutional are both good and necessary. This, however, is a topic for my next article - entitled "The Qonstitution." Stay tuned!
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UPDATE 9 August 2019- I think I need point no further than some of the responses to this article. People who follow a literal "ghost in the machine," who have exactly zero proof of who/what Q is - an entity that claims to be military intel and admits that it spreads disinformation - and who have no more information about their "leader" than I have posted here call me delusional.
They vehemently defend Q and call everyone that takes a cynical eye to this kind of psy-op crazy. Sorry folks, but you are the victims of a Personality Qult. You believe you are under siege, that you will be vindicated when all is revealed, and that your "leader" is all powerful, all on nothing more than faith. Belief in an entity with no known corporeal existence? Revelation when all will be laid bare and the wicked will be tossed in Hell (GITMO)? An all-seeing Deity that knows everything about everyone? This is a religion, plain and simple.
How can you pluck the mote from your brother's eye when you can not see the plank in your own?
Ratszinger
9th August 2019, 23:14
Things are not what they appear! Hypocrites all of them you are correct as the dems here by their orchestrated hype fear porn stories as if read from a script, and the fact NRA membership sales and gun sales, as well as, ammo sales are up to a peak now thanks to them brings me to a question! So, I ask you sincerely? Who is really the biggest movers and shakers of guns in the gun manufacturers eyes do you think?
Is it the ads from the NRA and gun lobby and magazines? Nope! No matter how much the left complains it is actually the biggest mouths of the leftists that sell the most guns for mfgrs! Barry Obama for example, by his mere presence in the oval office knee jerked av. Joe American into buying 74,000 some odd guns per day over eight years so he must be their golden child with a plague and everything in secret circles! Pardon me, but didn't those same manufactures benefit the same way from Iran Contra and what exactly did Ole Oliver North teach the NRA while there for his time? How bout fast and furious? Same manufactures profited from this gun sale as the ones benefiting now from av. Joe American! Is that odd?
Would it surprise you do discover that the left get money over the table to stand against guns while taking money under the table with their complicit media to actually move mass amounts of dust collectors now and again through coordinated con jobs like these terror acts? After seeing these same guys fly planes into buildings I have no doubt they'd lie to us to move guns and then lie to us again each time they need to move more to make room for new stock! Everyone is paid under the table and over and Delaware and Cyprus secret bank accounts are seeing deposits from all angles! Oh how I wish it weren't true!
And no one even notices or cares that the mayor in Ohio and statements publicly knee jerks half of Ohio (not just Dayton) into a buying frenzy for guns and ammo selling more guns with and ammo with his public statements of fear porn in chorus with his peers across the nation! This sells more than all the ads ever run by the NRA or gun lobby!
In fact after each event of terror no matter which one you study there is a buying frenzy for guns and ammo selling off guns that were collecting dust before the reps sing fear porn in chorus! Who is selling guns here? Really? And due diligence of a good detective would suggest the one that benefits the most from something would be or should be what? The primary suspect in an event. Need I point out how the NRA and gun lobby laugh all the way to the banks at this writing? Is that just coincidence too?
Gemma13
10th August 2019, 06:54
Yes, I’ve often thought Q’s predictions could be 1 of 2 things:
1. This “team” are using open source coded communications to activate an extremist agenda where collateral damage is inconsequential i.e. “the end justifies the means”.
2. This “team” are a break-away from 3 letter agencies/military/gov't/public domains experimenting with open source coded communications to let terrorist cells know they have sophisticated “eyes on technology” in the hope they will minimalize terrorist activity whilst simultaneously alerting their “boots on the ground team” to be vigilant within predicted areas.
The communication platform also being used to raise awareness within the public domain to the depth of treachery that exists behind the wall of fake news in the hope it wakes enough people up to demand and secure change.
For the past 20 years, thanks to the internet enabling open source global communications, the world has become saturated with evidence of the nefarious activities of 3 letter agencies, military, shadow government and corporations – but still they thrive.
I often ponder over what people within those professions are thinking; people that are not happy going along with the controllers of status quo just to retain job security.
Law of averages tells us they exist and I would predict in large numbers as not all those that choose a “helping/humanitarian/patriotic profession” can/will be seduced by propaganda and/or silenced over time.
Whistleblowing is the lonely dangerous option that meets great resistance from counter narratives. And even though we have amazing journalists, citizen journalists, researchers and activists chipping away at the Controllers Fortress I do believe inside infiltration is needed and is why the following are some of the questions I ponder over:
What conversations are these people having amongst their colleagues? What ideas could they be hatching? How would they be able to implement plans when they meet wall after wall of resistance within and without their professions?
How would they be able to set up a secure comms channel? Hide it in plain sight? Is there safety in numbers? What are they prepared to risk for staying within their fortresses whilst covertly setting up and working a clandestine cell knowing there is a death penalty for treason?
Point #1 could well be the case with Q as many are surmising. But damn I hope we’re wrong on that one. Because if we have a covert cell of whistleblowers/activists/soldiers working toward herding the nefarious networks into legal justice, then they deserve a shot.
It’s still too early for me to get off the fence on this one.
Jayke
10th August 2019, 09:21
Patriotism is the antidote to ideological subversion according to this KGB defector from an 1980’s interview. Seems like the Q team have employed a few lessons in counter-subversion in the fight against the threat of “world communism”.
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PS The logic in Bernard Grovers article endorsed by Joseph Farrell above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1309514&viewfull=1#post1309514) can be dissected with great ease. Interesting theory, one grounded in a poor grasp of the facts however.
Matthew
10th August 2019, 10:28
Q does become a 5th column in how a few lies contaminate the landscape of truth, but the work of Jon Wedger, which has nothing to do with Q, suggests there is a 'pretend it's not there' problem with child abuse. So those people that said Q was counter-productive, this is where they might have a point
Bump :)
Q might be harmless, and really really good for spreading awareness. But in some cases it contaminates the truth. I don't believe awareness is the Q teams prime concern, there is too much money being made off Q's exceptionally strong brand
onawah
7th November 2019, 04:03
Re-posting this.
Delight posted the article here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106821-The-US-Vaccine-issue-is-more-than-just-about-the-Shots-it-is-about-totalitarian-tiptoe&p=1322386&viewfull=1#post1322386
(Red letters in bold my emphasis.)
IMO we in any state who care about the future of this country should rally behind any candidate committed to vaccine awareness and safety of children. Here is one, David Rudnick (http://rudnickforcongress.com/) . Dr. Shiva running for senate in Massachusetts is another candidate for medical freedom.
In the 2nd interview with Bobby Kennedy posted here:
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Kennedy details his interaction with Trump and Trump's "people" concerning vaccination issues. Starts at 18:38
He says explicitly that Trump failed to follow through and "went dark" early in the administration. Kennedy also reported point blank that Trump COULD have done something easily and refused to support the issue altogether. Then he appointed Big Pharma reps into seats along with Big Oil reps. All together TRUMP is NOT going to help the cause for protecting children and adults. It will need to come from congress.
In most State cases so far where government has over reached with draconian mandates, Republicans have been the ones to say no. On the whole Democrats have voted YES in a party line.
Vaccine Injured Marine Running for Congress in California
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November 6, 2019 — Military vaccine injury is a common occurrence. Once you join Uncle Sam’s Marines you forfeit all rights to refuse being injected with anything Sammy says. Many soldiers get vaccinated and have no problems at all, which I am very glad is often the case. However it is not always the case; not for every soldier.
It wasn’t the case for David Rudnick
“I was a whistleblower in the Marine Corps. I was originally standing on a long line to get my vaccines when at the last minute I was taken out and put on a line with only four other Marines. Within days I was deathly ill. Doctors originally tested me for AIDS. In the first month, I dropped 15 pounds and had serious stomach issues as well as a diagnosis of mononucleosis. My hair also started to fall out in clumps in the shower. I had to push tonsil stones out of my mouth every day for weeks. I’ve still never recovered from the stomach issues.”
When asked if he was given a different set of vaccines on the alternative line Rudnick answered, “Most likely, yes. The other Marines in front of me looked nervous too. We all knew something was totally awry.”
Rudnick doesn’t know what vaccines he received while with the Marines, nor how many in total. “I’m afraid to know. I remember receiving 2 just before I went to Europe on vacation. Rumors swirled within my unit that I would never return and go AWOL. So some said they gave me a ‘hot shot’ for being a ‘hot shot.’ Before that I was also threatened with ‘blue on blue’ just like Pat Tillman.”
“Blue on Blue” means friendly fire.
All Rudnick ever wanted was to be an Infantryman leading his nation into battle. When he turned 18 he attended an Army Senior Military College. “Eventually I was taken out of the Infantry at North Georgia because ‘I was a commander, not a commando.’ I rescinded my commission and enlisted in the Marine Corps the very next day as an Infantryman.” At age 20 Rudnick joined the Marines and stayed for 5 years.
During his 5 years in the Marines Rudnick saw too much. He never gained official whistleblower status, but he claims that he was threatened more than once for witnessing corruption and wanting to shed light on it. Precisely what he knew we will save for a separate report at another time.
Currently Rudnick’s health is not the best, as his vaccine injuries have taken a toll on him. On Twitter, when someone stated Rudnick couldn’t be trusted because he is a Democrat, he posted a picture of what he says are his military medical files and tweeted: “Almost 10 years of medical files just to constantly be told, “unknown condition” and all from a little shot. No I will never change my mind on this issue.
DLynn
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· Nov 3, 2019
Replying to @DemocratFed and 5 others
He’s a Democrat. Sorry, CA has too many Democrats. CA Dems, They sell out to Pharma faster than I change panties. Find a new candidate that supports choice.
Rudnick for Congress CA-25
@VoteRudnickCA25
Almost 10 years of medical files just to constantly be told, "unknown condition" and all from a little shot. No I will never change my mind on this issue.
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Rudnick’s Platform
Rudnick is running for Congress in the Democratic primary on May 3rd, 2020 in California’s District 25. The seat was filled by Democrat Katie Hill, who recently resigned leaving the seat vacant. His platform is not cookie-cutter by any stretch of the imagination. Rudnick is constantly saying, “I am my own man,” and it shows in what he stands for: his platform includes:
Repeal the 1986 Vaccine Injury Act
Pro-life Democrat (which today is as rare as a unicorn)
Immigration Reform to help both America and immigrants
Climate Change legislation
Scale back military; US is not the world’s policeman
End the FED
Impeach Trump
To see his entire platform, visit http://rudnickforcongress.com/
Trump & Flu Vaccines
I asked Rudnick what he thought about Trump and his 5-year Task Force to create the “Next Generation” of flu vaccines. Here is his response:
“Trump ‘modernizing the flu shot?’ What a joke and a sham! Whatever happened to just getting the flu? Many say his son is vaccine injured, possibly autistic, so he spoke out on this issue only to get elected then shunned it. He is a huge disappointment.“
In Trump’s Executive Order to develop new flu vaccines, Trump states that new vaccine adjuvants will be tested on military veterans in the VA. I asked Rudnick if he is aware of anything unethical being done in VA Hospitals:
“Too many things are going on in regards to the VA. It’s common knowledge in all of the branches of the military that we are guinea pigs for the deep state. The anthrax vaccine is the perfect example of this. At one time, Gulf War vets were dying at a higher rate in the late 90’s than Vietnam War veterans! Walter Reed and many VA hospitals had a wing just for vaccine-injured veterans, but it’s something no one talks about. I never go to the VA. Too many of my friends have killed themselves on their experimental psychiatric drugs. They hand them out like candy and insist that you take them. These drugs induce psychosis and it’s caused an epidemic of suicides. I know this for a fact.“
Rudnick sent me all of the following links to support his claim:
Military Suicides & Homocides – the Dangers of Psychotropic Drugs https://www.cchr.org/documentaries/hidden-enemy/psychiatric-drugs-cause-suicide.html?fbclid=IwAR2YwiW208jZOP8ELoaxL7jENLHEXgqar8qhQmXuCMDxu05iQwAxE1yK26Y
Veteran Jumps to his Death at VA Hospital https://www.thedailybeast.com/veteran-jumps-to-his-death-at-va-hospital?ref=scroll&fbclid=IwAR31ONKATVarnBub6cgDgLRt5ZYOnZhJ94yZxKOSmvIfoezwPCOCQTM1HPE
Two Veteran Suicdes at Same VA Facility Share Chilling Similarity – Both Died While Sitting on Their Military Records https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/two-veteran-suicides-at-same-va-facility-share-chilling-similarity-both-died-while-sitting-on-their-military-records?fbclid=IwAR1U-IYVz5SKBR4NUcrt4bG8VTtIB5ZG3kr1lOaWN7lA_ZC1wP11ApnQBp0
Gulf War Military Documents Prove UK and US Military Personnel Were Injected With Untested Vaccines https://vaccineimpact.com/2016/gulf-war-syndrome-documents-prove-uk-and-us-military-personnel-were-injected-with-untested-vaccines/?fbclid=IwAR2EmQ1EdPSARwrBU8GOua7UtlreyF975sXUhNbV7HLaiv_cbbO0EdHXuOI
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· Nov 3, 2019
So @VoteRudnickCA25 is running for Congress in California and is a #VaccineChoice Candidate - SUPPORT HIM CA!!!@RobSchneider @Cernovich @DarlaShine @CaliVaxChoice http://rudnickforcongress.com/vaccine-choice
Rudnick for Congress CA-25
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Thank you for the kind words. I'm a vaxx- injured #Marine & I will never change my beliefs on this issue. I have suffered far too much. And as a Marine, no one can buy me off. I will go to Congress & end the Federal Compensation Fund. It's time Big Pharma pays.@VaccineChoiceCA
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TomKat
1st July 2020, 00:00
Douglas Dietrich speculates that Q might have been started by Satanist Michael Aquino:
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Gracy
1st October 2020, 03:59
As to not unduly interrupt the main Q thread, thought I'd voice this wee lil concern here:
Ever since Q turned up on the scene, we've got hold of the idea (and walked with it) that the whole point was to wake the patriot types up and keep them on the same page all the way through to at least the 2020 election where it would deliver a landslide vote victory crushing the cabal puppets.
The situation I see here right now is that the vote, if the cabal puppets etc have their well planned way, won't even count. They've directed their effort and planning away from being wiped out in a fair vote.
They are, effectively, bypassing the Trump team plan. The Trump team are going to have to switch track. Going for a massive vote victory is not going to work. The opposition machine that's been built up is ready to roll right over the awakened masses and they trashed votes.
I sense, from something Trump expressed near the end of the debate that he's thinking of cancelling the election somehow. I've no idea how that can be done, but the logic tells me they must, and also, now, he's implied it in the debate.
What the hell are they going to do ?
I've been seeing this popping up more and more recently in political circles that shall remain nameless, that basically the upcoming U.S. Presidential election will be null and void, if President Trump somehow loses. Let me get this straight, if Big Daddy wins all is right in the world and the white hats are now at the helm; but if he loses he, and the long suffering patriots, have been cheated.
Of course an obvious question might be, how else to solve this stand off dilemma without voting, if the correct candidate can't win the old fashioned way at the ballot box?
Or, am I missing something here in the treacherous landscape of 4D chess?
norman
1st October 2020, 04:14
This isn't about "American rednecks". If it was, we'd certainly have been screwed before this even started.
We are watching the entire human race on the brink of failure. Trump isn't even a right winger, he's a small time billionaire responding to a call to save us all from a plan to ruin us for ever.
You're attitude terrifies me Gracy. If the American people can't turn the tables on the crooks, none of us can.
Ratszinger
1st October 2020, 07:54
I think it is naive to think Trump is here to 'SAVE ANYONE'! Listen Trump is beholden to the people that bailed him out of his Atlantic City fiasco and many of those same people are around him right now daily in his ear all the time! Do you know who Wilbur Ross is? Do you know who he is connected to? Do you know his part in the bail out in Trump's past? You see these appointments in many cases are not just people working around Trump they are his bosses! The ones he owes! That separate security team apart from the secret service team that Trump has around him all the time? Not his security team so much as his keepers! He is owned by the mob that bailed him out and its the mob he works for and this is a world stage gang war!
Hillary is a mob boss okay? She is a CAPO for real! She is out of Chicago and Trump is working with NY! The LA gangs are also involved and all three are fighting big time over not just one thing but the world! They want the southern border of the USA, they want silk road, they want the south pacific, and they want to control the prize! This is a coup, but it's a coup of the NY gang coming in from underneath and taking out the control of the prize from the Chicago gang and wretched it from them and now they want it back. The Chicago mob has been in D.C. running things their way for a number of years and now the NY gang headed by their man Trump is moving and shaking that up because the prize is the USA Military and he that controls it has an advantage over all the others.
Trump has spent 47 months removing and replacing loyal appointees made over a life time and multi terms of presidents all on the same page and now Trump comes in after all those years and in 47 months messes it all up! Of course they're pissed! Of course they don't want to accept that he is the prez and the one in charge! This is nothing like it appears and you can call it military intelligence but it's all run by organized crime gangs. It's a gang war on the world stage nothing more nothing less.
norman
1st October 2020, 10:32
Anyway, I thought this thread was for theories about Q being something other than claimed, not for Trump hating knife ambushes.
Gracy
1st October 2020, 11:55
Anyway, I thought this thread was for theories about Q being something other than claimed, not for Trump hating knife ambushes.
Oh ffs norman...
I asked a legitimate question about the vote, quoting you in doing so. If things are so hyper partisan these days that questioning or criticizing a sitting US President during an election cycle is viewed as a "knife ambush", then we have lots more to worry about than "the cabal".
As Wade Frazier likes to put it Godzilla seldom has to raise a paw, because the people usually do his bidding before he ever needs to think of bothering.
Now back to my question concerning possibly not accepting the election results, or cancelling the election all together. I'll repeat it:
Ever since Q turned up on the scene, we've got hold of the idea (and walked with it) that the whole point was to wake the patriot types up and keep them on the same page all the way through to at least the 2020 election where it would deliver a landslide vote victory crushing the cabal puppets.
The situation I see here right now is that the vote, if the cabal puppets etc have their well planned way, won't even count. They've directed their effort and planning away from being wiped out in a fair vote.
They are, effectively, bypassing the Trump team plan. The Trump team are going to have to switch track. Going for a massive vote victory is not going to work. The opposition machine that's been built up is ready to roll right over the awakened masses and they trashed votes.
I sense, from something Trump expressed near the end of the debate that he's thinking of cancelling the election somehow. I've no idea how that can be done, but the logic tells me they must, and also, now, he's implied it in the debate.
What the hell are they going to do ?
I've been seeing this popping up more and more recently in political circles that shall remain nameless, that basically the upcoming U.S. Presidential election will be null and void, if President Trump somehow loses. Let me get this straight, if Big Daddy wins all is right in the world and the white hats are now at the helm; but if he loses he, and the long suffering patriots, have been cheated.
Of course an obvious question might be, how else to solve this stand off dilemma without voting, if the correct candidate can't win the old fashioned way at the ballot box?
Or, am I missing something here in the treacherous landscape of 4D chess?
Jayke
2nd October 2020, 09:37
As Wade Frazier likes to put it Godzilla seldom has to raise a paw, because the people usually do his bidding before he ever needs to think of bothering.
Reminds me of the ‘Savages’ song in Pocahontas. People always see the Godzilla in the other, and never see the Godzilla in themselves. As Michael Tsarion likes to say, “people would rather see the world burn than be forced to confront their own shadow”. Godzilla logic example:
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/058/638/294/original/37c6d6a42652c80f.jpeg?1601612746
Now back to my question concerning possibly not accepting the election results, or cancelling the election all together. I'll repeat it:
Of course an obvious question might be, how else to solve this stand off dilemma without voting, if the correct candidate can't win the old fashioned way at the ballot box?
Or, am I missing something here in the treacherous landscape of 4D chess?
Isn’t that the role of the electoral college? To make the final choice above and beyond the results of the ballot box? Isn’t that how Trump ‘stole’ the election from Godzilla in 2016, with her supposed 3 million vote lead?
But Norman was right, wrong thread for this particular line of questioning, and it’s not hyper partisan to point out basic forum etiquette, even in these Avalon members backwaters where the gloves come off and anything goes.:argue:
Kryztian
11th January 2021, 04:28
‘I will not suffer Q people’: Alex Jones wins MSM plaudits for venting fury at QAnon in viral clip
https://www.rt.com/usa/512080-alex-jones-qanon-msm-capitol/
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2021.01/article/5ffb27e12030270840046dd6.jpg
Right-wing commentator Alex Jones has blasted the QAnon conspiracy theory in his own characteristic style, creating a viral clip that quickly racked up over one million views and won the controversial pundit some unlikely praise.
As America continues to pick over the bones of Wednesday’s riot at the US Capitol building, the QAnon phenomenon is coming under even greater scrutiny as blame and retribution is doled out.
The conspiracy theory, which is popular among some right-wing circles, claims that there is a vast cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles secretly operating the levers of power in the United States. Adherents long-held President Donald Trump in very high regard, believing that he was battling against the powerful predators.
On InfoWars, Jones cut-off a Q-affiliated guest and called them “full of s**t” before launching into one of the dramatic tirades that made him famous.
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Story continues at https://www.rt.com/usa/512080-alex-jones-qanon-msm-capitol/
Journeyman
11th January 2021, 14:50
Paul Romano is a YT content creator who I really like. His pockets of the future series highlights some of the dark side of TPTB but he's also giving positive info on meditation, learning to farm etc. He's a very positive guy in my view.
He's also deeply sceptical of Q. In part it's because he's suspicious of the entire process, but he also has the philosophy that the system cannot be fixed in the way the Q narrative suggests. He often finishes his video saying only a spiritual approach will resolve our problems.
This video is a long, somewhat rambling overview of some of his problems with Q, its failure to stop the deep state power grab, suspicion of Trump and also the negative effect he thinks it's had on the truth community and some of the people who have been following it.
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I think it's overlong, but he's got a good conclusion. Anyway, a good man with some positive thoughts to convey.
This video actually follows on from it, he forgot his most important point!
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LouisZbunjuel
11th January 2021, 17:58
My theory is that Q is a giant psyop people pulled on themselves.
Blastolabs
11th January 2021, 18:16
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...
Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.
The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.
Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.
Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?
I would urge you to do so
Ratszinger
11th January 2021, 19:29
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...
Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.
The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.
Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.
Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?
I would urge you to do so
Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!
Sirus
15th January 2021, 18:32
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...
Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.
The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.
Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.
Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?
I would urge you to do so
Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!
Mike Pompeo posted a screenshot of a Q drop??
TomKat
16th January 2021, 18:58
Qanon was a Bolshevik tactic called Operation Trust:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/
Kryztian
18th January 2021, 02:21
'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008
"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.
Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":
https://i.imgur.com/oTXXBFa.jpg
The similarities with the Q-Anon "Trust The Plan™" psy-op are remarkable.
From Wikipedia's article on Operation Trust:
Operation Trust was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR, in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.
[...] The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with "the complexity of a symphonic score", that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.
That sounds like the Confucius-style nonsense put out by Q-Anon.
Article continues at: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008
onawah
19th January 2021, 05:18
Part of an astute astrologer's (Ang Stoic) prediction for the time upcoming
Birth of a New Revolutionary Spirit – THE FORTNIGHT AHEAD (Jan 19-31)
ASTROLOGY OF NOW, The Week Ahead
"Jupiter’s square to Uranus also brings warning that we are squandering away too much of our good energy on nonsense, searching for meaning down the most absurdly twisted rabbit holes of convoluted theories. An approaching Mars will only agitate those reactionaries to act in ways which are misled, negative and destructive. The Jupiter/Saturn squares make the world more on edge. What it needs now is more positive revolutionaries, and if something needs to change for us to get more into the flow with what’s really going on, the key is definitely in the way we’re operating.
Enter Saturn…
The likelihood is that Saturn’s dominance in scientifically progressive Aquarius will apply a severely sobering, if somewhat depressive, effect on wild Uranian and Neptunian abstractions. Some healthy scepticism is necessary. Uranus, whose Taurean viewpoint on life is fundamentally reactionary in nature, oftentimes rooted in a backwards-looking perception of a ‘return to a Golden Age’. Neptune, dignified in Pisces, attempts to unify, but under the Saturn’s scrutiny, any nebulous evasiveness is also about to receive a harsh ‘coming down to earth’."
"In the course of today’s great reformation, this moment brings us one thing: the opportunity to become rapidly aware that it is time to end this infatuation we have with clinging to false realities which, for the most part, we inflict upon one another due to our obsession with passing off unproven concepts as something which may helpful or soothing.
Whether our erroneous beliefs and half-baked laws spawn from our continued adherence to monotheistic religions, archaic constitutions or misinformed conclusions that we read on Twitter on the bus ride home, we can no longer assume to believe anything we hear as gospel or truth. When we pledge our adherence to the words of a biblical prophet, a supreme monarch, an authoritarian dictator, president, or public celebrity who is the anointed influencer of some intersubjective entity, to subscribe to any ideology which is exclusive and divisive only perpetuates injustice and deprives us of our human dignity and fundamental freedom.
Just as the ancients failed to stabilise their empires due to their inability to support the arbitrary existence of the gods of Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon, so too now we suffer the collapse and the humiliation of our holy cows. Not one of the hypotheses of past ‘Golden Ages’ seems any more probable than any other because they ultimately lie outside the region of the probable knowledge of today. Therefore there is no reason to consider any of them, other than to agree that these beliefs existed only in the absence of science, as a subsidy to what we could not know, at most serving to expose the enormous limitations of humanity’s endeavour to understand the greater forces of nature that were and still are largely seen to be ‘supernatural’.
If our lives need meaning so that we may go on living, then we are awakening, en masse, to the fact that we, as humans, tend to distort and manipulate what we often fail to comprehend in order to make it mean just about anything, just to appease ourselves.
Here, at this Jupiter/Uranus moment, we get a glimpse at how many of our difficulties in life arise when we haplessly attempt to solve serious problems by applying enduring superstitious attitudes and magical, wishful thinking. We see how, for the most part, our adherence to nonsense ultimately fails to work because it only perpetuates the suffering. We also see the toxicity behind those who dogmatically propagate false negatives as ‘truths’. They are not helpful or soothing, they are downright dangerous and culpable of causing great injury and harm. These are the lessons imposed throughout 2021, and in particular, made even starker by the recurring squares between Saturn and Uranus."
(See the whole reading posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1405051&viewfull=1#post1405051 )
or here: https://angstoic.com/2021/01/birth-of-a-new-revolutionary-spirit-the-fortnight-ahead-jan-19-31/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=getresponse&utm_content=Birth+of+a+New+Revolutionary+Spirit+-+THE+FORTNIGHT+AHEAD+%28Jan+19-31%29&utm_campaign=Ang+Stoic+Free+Newsletter )
Journeyman
19th January 2021, 05:59
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...
Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.
The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.
Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.
Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?
I would urge you to do so
Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!
Mike Pompeo posted a screenshot of a Q drop??
Pompeo's final tweets have ended an hour earlier each day, counting down. There's been a few which seem to reference Q post signals. The RED6 wine, the other day a ship with a number corresponding to a post etc. Some more proofs, subtle ambiguous and deniable, but they are there.
With the White House going dark everything is being done according to the Q roadmap. Big day ahead.
Jayke
19th January 2021, 09:16
'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008
"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.
Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":
https://i.imgur.com/oTXXBFa.jpg
The similarities with the Q-Anon "Trust The Plan™" psy-op are remarkable.
From Wikipedia's article on Operation Trust:
Operation Trust was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR, in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.
[...] The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with "the complexity of a symphonic score", that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.
That sounds like the Confucius-style nonsense put out by Q-Anon.
Article continues at: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008
The article uses too many ‘wrap up smear’ techniques, claiming Q promotes war with Iran for example, which just isn’t the case for anyone informed in the Q movement.
David Whitehead does a really thorough rebuttal of the narrative the article puts forward. He remains open to the possibility it could be a giant well-crafted psyop but after going through all the evidence to the contrary and speaking to his contacts in the military and law enforcement, he’s optimistic that even if the globalists manage to install Biden tomorrow, the great awakening triggered in the Q movement has already created a revolution of truth tellers that’s lit a fire of awareness around the world and the globalists aren’t going to be able to put that genie of truth back into the bottle of suppression anytime soon.
As he concludes after a fair weighing of the pros and cons of the movement, at 1:08:00 mins — “What is Q?... It’s citizen journalism, that’s it.”
Which is the same conclusion Andrew Torba came to (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111024-What-is-Q-An-introduction-to-Qanon&p=1397926&viewfull=1#post1397926) after hosting and watching the behaviour of millions of Anons on Gab.com.
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Journeyman
19th January 2021, 10:13
James True makes some interesting points (https://www.jtrue.com/blog/epstein-island-is-fake) around the Epstein Island story:
You know what the moon and Epstein Island have in common? We’ll never go there. So what if Epstein Island was just a set? If you were a billionaire, why have a temple with faux stonework and pretend three-dimensional paint you could only appreciate from afar? Look. Walls are 100% flat.
The Island is a movie set. The building is shaped like one of those telecom buildings you see built for efficiency. It’s been turned into a reality show set. Even the fake dome fell off in a hurricane. Plus, no pool? No shade trellises? No furniture? Even the owls were cheesy.
This kind of distraction is exactly what the federal government would do to keep you invested. Especially if knew Babylon was falling.
P.S. Babylon is falling.
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TomKat
22nd January 2021, 04:27
Here's an excellent expose of the Q psyop:
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just plain common sense.
TomKat
23rd January 2021, 22:32
“The Plan” is simple: build.
-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing
Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.
In other words, there IS no plan...
Jayke
24th January 2021, 00:09
“The Plan” is simple: build.
-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing
Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.
In other words, there IS no plan...
Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?
TomKat
24th January 2021, 02:46
It looks like the Army is looking for a few good psyop operators:
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Jayke
24th January 2021, 05:23
“The Plan” is simple: build.
-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing
Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.
In other words, there IS no plan...
Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?
This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...
Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.
The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller
araucaria
24th January 2021, 08:37
'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008
"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.
Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":
https://i.imgur.com/oTXXBFa.jpg
Anyone wishing to follow this line of thought would do well to get to know this Anatoliy Golitsyn a bit better. I suggest an old thread of mine, starting here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95553-JFK-the-CIA-the-KGB-and-Russia-today&p=1128709&viewfull=1#post1128709).
Matthew
24th January 2021, 11:42
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Anyone wishing to follow this line of thought would do well to get to know this Anatoliy Golitsyn a bit better. I suggest an old thread of mine, starting here.
I'd seen this 'Hope as a weapon' elsewhere and it got my interest. Thank you for the extra thoughts and research on this, I'm going to have a look later 🌞
Search result 1 - Anatoliy Golitsyn by araucaria (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94924-Some-anomalies-in-the-Miles-Mathis-material-an-alternative-picture&p=1126072&viewfull=1#post1126072)
Search result 2 - Anatoliy Golitsyn by araucaria (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95553-JFK-the-CIA-the-KGB-and-Russia-today&p=1128709&highlight=Anatoliy+Golitsyn#post1128709)
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TomKat
24th January 2021, 15:41
“The Plan” is simple: build.
-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing
Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.
In other words, there IS no plan...
Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?
This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...
Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.
The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
Jayke
24th January 2021, 16:20
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
We never argued it wasn’t a psyop. We just argued what kind of psyop it was, and it most definitely isn’t a passivity psyop. Some of us never stopped building during the past 4 years. Look at Gabs growth for example, fuelled to a huge degree by the Q community looking for a new home after years of censorship. What have you built in that time? What have you done for your local community? Done to further the progress of humanity? You didn’t answer last time I asked. Care to enlighten us or are you just going to walk and talk like a troll until the inertia of the growing Q community steamrolls right over your superficially misinformed opinions?
Savannah
24th January 2021, 16:37
“The Plan” is simple: build.
-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing
Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.
In other words, there IS no plan...
Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?
This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...
Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.
The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
I'm getting tired of this and I'm going to start reporting posts like yours as abuse. You contribute nothing and come here to start fights. If you believe Q is nonsense then why do you give it so much time and attention. You clearly like to troll or your paid to troll. If you just didn't agree with Q you would have moved on to another thread by now. If you had some level of morality you would have politely expressed your views and moved on by now.
TomKat
24th January 2021, 17:36
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
We never argued it wasn’t a psyop. We just argued what kind of psyop it was, and it most definitely isn’t a passivity psyop. Some of us never stopped building during the past 4 years. Look at Gabs growth for example, fuelled to a huge degree by the Q community looking for a new home after years of censorship. What have you built in that time? What have you done for your local community? Done to further the progress of humanity? You didn’t answer last time I asked. Care to enlighten us or are you just going to walk and talk like a troll until the inertia of the growing Q community steamrolls right over your superficially misinformed opinions?
First, it's none of your business what I do with my time, and I'm not going to turn that question around on you. Second, you admit that Q is a psyop which you continue to promote. So why are your running psyops on this forum? Having an instinctive reaction against overt manipulation is not trolling. And what I'm doing about it is challenging your psyop. Is that so horrible? Isn't that what Avalon is about?
TomKat
24th January 2021, 17:41
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
I'm getting tired of this and I'm going to start reporting posts like yours as abuse. You contribute nothing and come here to start fights. If you believe Q is nonsense then why do you give it so much time and attention. You clearly like to troll or your paid to troll. If you just didn't agree with Q you would have moved on to another thread by now. If you had some level of morality you would have politely expressed your views and moved on by now.
Arguing and debating is not trolling. If anybody is getting paid here it is probably whoever is telling us what Q wants us to do now and that we should do it.
When you "report me" as I'm sure you will, maybe it will start a discussion about whether debate is allowed on Avalon? If so, is someone trying to shut down debate by threats of reporting, therefore, a troll?
I'd also like to ask: is recruiting allowed? Recruiting people to follow your lead is disrespectful of others. It sets yourself up as a leader telling others what to do, and presumes that you know better than they do. It's hierarchical and innately condescending.
samildamach
24th January 2021, 18:03
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
I'm getting tired of this and I'm going to start reporting posts like yours as abuse. You contribute nothing and come here to start fights. If you believe Q is nonsense then why do you give it so much time and attention. You clearly like to troll or your paid to troll. If you just didn't agree with Q you would have moved on to another thread by now. If you had some level of morality you would have politely expressed your views and moved on by now.
Arguing and debating is not trolling. If anybody is getting paid here it is probably whoever is telling us what Q wants us to do now and that we should do it.
When you "report me" as I'm sure you will, maybe it will start a discussion about whether debate is allowed on Avalon? If so, is someone trying to shut down debate by threats of reporting, therefore, a troll?
There is a specific thread for all things anti q.so this one Doesnot get derailed, please use that one!
Jayke
24th January 2021, 19:32
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
We never argued it wasn’t a psyop. We just argued what kind of psyop it was, and it most definitely isn’t a passivity psyop. Some of us never stopped building during the past 4 years. Look at Gabs growth for example, fuelled to a huge degree by the Q community looking for a new home after years of censorship. What have you built in that time? What have you done for your local community? Done to further the progress of humanity? You didn’t answer last time I asked. Care to enlighten us or are you just going to walk and talk like a troll until the inertia of the growing Q community steamrolls right over your superficially misinformed opinions?
First, it's none of your business what I do with my time, and I'm not going to turn that question around on you. Second, you admit that Q is a psyop which you continue to promote. So why are your running psyops on this forum? Having an instinctive reaction against overt manipulation is not trolling. And what I'm doing about it is challenging your psyop. Is that so horrible? Isn't that what Avalon is about?
Duh! We’ve been having this conversation ad nauseum for the past 3 years. Every accusation and slur you can throw at us has been argued out to the point of tedium. The fact you’ve only just hopped on the Q thread now to try and disaparage us rather than actually reading up on the ins and outs of why we support this movement, which is well documented in this and other threads, just shows the only reason you’re here is to try and gloat over what you perceive to be a failure of the movement.
Hate to break it to you TomKat, but I said over 2 years ago that this Q movement is a process (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107996-Qanon-and-the-mechanism-of-addiction&p=1305861&viewfull=1#post1305861) that might take longer than everyone expects. The process is still unfolding and it’s far too early for you to be gloating just yet. To do so just highlights your instincts for ignorance. As I said to conclude my analysis of the movement in 2018...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1250235&viewfull=1#post1250235
I'll be keeping a keen eye on the tactics used by all sides as I straddle the fence in the middle, to see how this whole psy-op is ultimately going to play out. It took over 60 years from the ‘Bickerstaff operation’ in the 1700's before America ultimately won its freedom. The rattling of the deep state that the Q-movement is causing now, could take just as long to come to fruition, so, I don't really expect much to dramatically change in society within my lifetime at least. Ascension through the archetypal layers of consciousness is a slow, long, drawn-out process that occurs over millenia. But again, I'm hopeful for the best. And I’m always grateful for welcome, unexpected, surprises
Savannah
24th January 2021, 20:26
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.
I'm getting tired of this and I'm going to start reporting posts like yours as abuse. You contribute nothing and come here to start fights. If you believe Q is nonsense then why do you give it so much time and attention. You clearly like to troll or your paid to troll. If you just didn't agree with Q you would have moved on to another thread by now. If you had some level of morality you would have politely expressed your views and moved on by now.
Arguing and debating is not trolling. If anybody is getting paid here it is probably whoever is telling us what Q wants us to do now and that we should do it.
When you "report me" as I'm sure you will, maybe it will start a discussion about whether debate is allowed on Avalon? If so, is someone trying to shut down debate by threats of reporting, therefore, a troll?
I'd also like to ask: is recruiting allowed? Recruiting people to follow your lead is disrespectful of others. It sets yourself up as a leader telling others what to do, and presumes that you know better than they do. It's hierarchical and innately condescending.
You have already been removed from another thread. I reported your last one, so argue with the Mods and leave us alone.
Icare
25th January 2021, 03:36
David Icke says it's a psy-op and compares it to very similar psyops that were run years ago, like a guy who called himself "Drake", and a Bolshevik operation called "Operation Trust" which was run in the former Soviet Union in the 1920s.
It worked exactly the same way as Qanon does: People got told a lot of truth about things they found unacceptable and made to believe there were good guys who were doing something about it.
It was a fishing operation because the idea was to identify and subsequently arrest the opposition, thus effectively neutralize the operation.
He says people fall for that kind of an operation all the time because it's human nature to want to believe there are good guys out there doing something about the situation.
"Trust the plan" should have been a clue, I guess.
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Ratszinger
25th January 2021, 05:03
David Icke says it's a psy-op and compares it to very similar psyops that were run years ago, like a guy who called himself "Drake", and a Bolshevik operation called "Operation Trust" which was run in the former Soviet Union in the 1920s.
It worked exactly the same way as Qanon does: People got told a lot of truth about things they found unacceptable and made to believe there were good guys who were doing something about it.
It was a fishing operation because the idea was to identify and subsequently arrest the opposition, thus effectively neutralize the operation.
He says people fall for that kind of an operation all the time because it's human nature to want to believe there are good guys out there doing something about the situation.
"Trust the plan" should have been a clue, I guess.
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The truth is always there but often difficult to see for all the blurred lines. The truth I see is that both sides have ample white and black hats. There are good and bad guys on the same team trying to achieve the same goal here. So whether they were, or are black hat or white when both have the same objective, "Independence", Freedom", for example. The objective is to get our country back to where it was pre- 1871 that is my understanding. No matter your ilk if you want this you want it be you a deviant or an innocent law abiding tax paying citizen. In this case for the goal we seek black and white hats join hands and unite. Just like in the civil war.
Matthew
25th January 2021, 15:50
When have either side (pro or against) influenced the other? Not managing to influence? Try getting more angry, see if that works. Sometimes agreeing to disagree is the best available. My 2 cents
Kalamos
7th April 2021, 14:16
Q Accidentally Outed Himself, But QAnon Followers Don’t Care (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7m58a/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care)
In the final episode of Cullen Hoback’s six-part QAnon documentary, which aired late Sunday night, the administrator of 8kun effectively admitted to posting there as Q, the conspiracy movement’s anonymous leader.
In one of the final scenes of “Q: Into the Storm,” Ron Watkins spoke about his newfound fame as a key spreader of baseless claims about voter fraud after Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Then he said: “It was basically three years of intelligence training, teaching normies how to do intelligence work. It was basically what I was doing anonymously before.“
Realizing his mistake, Watkins quickly added, “...but never as Q.”
Journeyman
18th April 2021, 08:10
Might the purpose of Q, all along, have been to generate a much bigger movement that what culminated in Jan. 6? Something to permit a much more overt clamp down on those who were inclined to vote for Trump, warts and all?
While I can present nothing like evidence to support such a supposition, taking a step back, it can certainly appear to be a honeypot for populists.
You can't exactly round people up for consuming media within the public domain, you need them to actually do something actionable. It seems very plausible to me that the stage was set, and it was a wash, and now we have people held without bail in DC for trespassing.
The main reason I don't think this is the best explanation was that the 6th Jan incident was so shaky, the narrative is already collapsing. There are people held without bail but some of them are now being outed as FBI informants etc. The orders to the Capitol police, the video of them letting protesters in, the image of the grandma sipping her soda as she ambles through Congress. It's the storming of the Bastille as portrayed by the mickey mouse club.
One may likewise take into account the resolution passed in Congress for the purpose of condemning Qanon. Such seems a severe over-reaction on the part of of our government. I am not suggesting it is true, but it might be a thought worthy to entertain, given that it is fairly accepted that Q was some kind of intelligence operation, could the purpose have been all along to create the vast right wing conspiracy that has been much less of the boogyman that they would like for it to have been for decades, now?
In hindsight we had all the "we have it all" and enjoy the show" which on one hand I have seen astute critics point out that it seemed to invite inaction, but what if the opposite was true and it was all pointed to a date where they would expect "audience participation".
I would also make the diaclaimer that none of this is to make criticism of any of my fellow PA members. Many of the Q supporters and critics alike do I have the utmost respect for. But, given the way things have gone, it seems that is time to make some meta-analysis of what has happened up to the changing of the guard, so to speak.
This thought process would not apply to Q only, but easily to Trump, himself. It is not so difficult to look back and frame it as yet more social engineering, only with a particular subset of the population as its target, namely, us.
I will hold my hands up and say I'm still in the 'watching a movie' bracket. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113728-You-re-watching-a-movie). Although I'm deeply concerned, there is still evidence that there's both a disclosure exercise ongoing and potentially a global readjustment/power struggle which may be about to be at least more public.
Having said that I moved my reply here because I think the alternatives should be addressed and they do weigh on my mind. Whilst I don't think the 6th Jan incident fits the bill for a Reichstag incident, there are two Q interpretations which give me serious pause for thought.
The first is happening all around us, the vaccines. Whilst the folk who may otherwise have been fully focussed on resisting the imposition of tyrannical govt are trusting the plan, believing in Trump and trying to decode the meaning of Q, those injections continue to be administered to our loved ones, neighbours and soon the majority of our countries.
We have the Deagel.com projections telling us someone believes 70-75% of us will simply not be there in 3 years time. (https://deagel.com/forecast)Do these figures reflect the nations which have been most proactive on the vaccine front? Would some of those people have taken the shot if it wasn't endorsed by a hero figure on the right?
So this first one boils down to 'we want to vax the Western populace, a section of whom are less likely to follow rules, how do we do it? We feed them a little truth mixed with deception, give them a narrative to follow, build a hero figure and have him endorse the vax, causing sufficient trust / inaction to allow us to reach the percentage of compliance required to ensure a win.
The second negative interpretation which fits the facts pretty well is Q as the preparation for a civil war. The US is split into blue and red states which are increasingly polarised. If half the nation are following MSM propaganda they believe Trump and anyone who followed him are deranged and evil. Vice versa for those on the Republican side. Each are being provided with conflicting, but convincing evidence. The election was fixed / election was fair. The courts looked into this / the courts refused to hear it. etc etc. The takedown of America would be most easily accomplished not by a foreign invasion which would unite the populace, but by a civil war that would divide it.
The Q narrative, simultaneously persuading some whilst demonised by others would be one tool in engineering this split and preparing the way for a breakdown in trust in govt institutions, secession and perhaps somewhere down the line a globalist led force of UN peacekeepers and game over.
I can make arguments for both of these positions as well as the optimistic one I hope may come through. :confused: Obviously they're not the only three, depending on one's worldview, one could talk about spiritual questions, alien disclosure, Archons, Q as a distraction from impending Global cataclysm, the apocalypse etc. Certainly there are aspects of the way that Q is constructed that seem to suggest a faction that values numerology (https://illuminatiexposed.org/2021/02/23/qanon-exposed-how-the-secret-societies-of-the-world-create-bull****-conspiracy-theories-to-distract-you-from-the-real-ones/) in the same way the cabal elements do, look at Trump Towers 66 floors, Apolloyon references, the tip of the spear, etc etc.
But I think those three above are enough for now...
Matthew
18th April 2021, 09:05
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The second negative interpretation which fits the facts pretty well is Q as the preparation for a civil war. The US is split into blue and red states which are increasingly polarised. If half the nation are following MSM propaganda they believe Trump and anyone who followed him are deranged and evil. Vice versa for those on the Republican side. Each are being provided with conflicting, but convincing evidence. The election was fixed / election was fair. The courts looked into this / the courts refused to hear it. etc etc. The takedown of America would be most easily accomplished not by a foreign invasion which would unite the populace, but by a civil war that would divide it.
The Q narrative, simultaneously persuading some whilst demonised by others would be one tool in engineering this split and preparing the way for a breakdown in trust in govt institutions, secession and perhaps somewhere down the line a globalist led force of UN peacekeepers and game over.
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I know what you mean. This cryptic DHS insider from years ago doesn't help
DHS insider update: “It has begun”
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RB: I don’t have a crystal ball, but I have seen various reports referencing unprecedented “drills” to take place in later March and April. I’ll mention this because I know a lot of people on the inside at DHS have seen this. A document called “Operation Thunderdome.” It’s maybe 50 or 60 pages, I’m not certain. It describes an economic collapse in the U.S., followed by an attack on the government by “a made-up patriotic group.” It combines gun owners, Constitutionalists, and even Christians into an enemy group that pulls off an attack in Washington.
But don’t fall into the trap of trying to pick the time of these events. Their plans are flexible, but their objectives are carved in stone.
DH: Sounds like a Reichstag type event - sometime.
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(from cross-thread post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57144-Doug-Hagmann-s-DHS-insider-update---IT-HAS-BEGUN.--&p=1410454&viewfull=1#post1410454))
Gracy
18th April 2021, 17:28
UNDERGROUND SUCCESSFUL EXECUTION AND COMPLETION OF TWO OPERATIONS IN WASHINGTON D.C. & MARYLAND
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Who is this guy, and why should anyone take this latest in a long line of fantastical tall tales seriously, without yet again a single shred of evidence to back it up?
Journeyman
19th April 2021, 16:35
I know what you mean. This cryptic DHS insider from years ago doesn't help
It is worrying, a message that's been around for years now, I found this one: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread932906/pg1 and as I said, you could make the case that the Q posts could form part of the formation of such a grouping.
UNDERGROUND SUCCESSFUL EXECUTION AND COMPLETION OF TWO OPERATIONS IN WASHINGTON D.C. & MARYLAND
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Who is this guy, and why should anyone take this latest in a long line of fantastical tall tales seriously, without yet again a single shred of evidence to back it up?
No idea, incidentally does anyone know what TLS stands for? I was thinking about another of these people, the lady 'Clare' from the UK who featured on a couple of the videos posted recently. She seems very genuine, I liked her in fact, 'potty mouth' and all and her story is very exciting, full of secret operations, messages to Navy seals, assertions about Donald Trump etc. For all I know its all legit, but then, for all I know, this lady has paranoid schizophrenia and genuinely believes she's an operative in a secret war whilst she's really just undergoing a bad episode or a chemical imbalance in the brain. I have absolutely no way of falsifying either explanation and both fit the evidence available.
I think there's value in the Q drops, but moths like Simon Parkes that have been drawn to this flame are a motley crew.
Matthew
19th April 2021, 17:24
Q could be a 'silent weapon'. It kinda fits the bill of 'hope PsyOp' similar to those used in the 1920's (this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1406666&viewfull=1#post1406666)). What Rosebud (DHS insider) said about unifying "gun owners, Constitutionalists, and even Christians into an enemy group" at the time, in 2013, it didn't fit anything I was aware of, but does describe Q. And then the bit about pulling of an attack on Washington. Well, not sure Q followers did an attack, but the mainstream narrative around 6th Jan sure did push that trope as if it was what they wanted. All a little too close for comfort. And when I say too close for comfort what I mean is OMG ITS AN EXACT MATCH
uzn
27th April 2021, 06:29
UNDERGROUND SUCCESSFUL EXECUTION AND COMPLETION OF TWO OPERATIONS IN WASHINGTON D.C. & MARYLAND
JIpdNmvVWbvF
Who is this guy, and why should anyone take this latest in a long line of fantastical tall tales seriously, without yet again a single shred of evidence to back it up?
IS THIS REAL ENOUGH FOR YOU ?
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But keep telling yourself that Satanists, child trafficking, blood drinking and baby eating does not exist.
Journeyman
27th April 2021, 11:28
IS THIS REAL ENOUGH FOR YOU ?
But keep telling yourself that Satanists, child trafficking, blood drinking and baby eating does not exist.
Gracy May questions why we should believe the guy in the first video and you reply by posting a different person making claims. It's not an answer, now there are two sets of claims and two burdens of proof to carry rather than one.
There's evidence that all of the awful things listed above have or do exist, that doesn't mean any particular claim is true. The girl may have been through unimaginable hell, she could be a fantasist, suffer from mental illness or even be a paid actress. There's many different explanations which could explain the claim.
In general, there are lots of claims being made and many people who are happy to take them at face value, especially if they fall in line with their worldview. However, since we're in the 'opposing' thread let's look at how we could verify it? The second clip is professionally produced, Australian voiceover calls her Teresa which lead me to this site:
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/03/fact-check-no-evidence-of-satanic-ritual-baby-murders-as-told-in-these-videos.html
note alleged discrepancies in testimony given to different tv producsers and no record of any legal case.
I'm not saying 'fact checking' sites aren't capable of deception themselves, but to weigh claims properly we need research and to verify where possible, not simply accept a claim, try to corroborate it!
I don't want to seem argumentative or an arch sceptic, but I think we are in an information war at present and there's a plethora of claims and counter claims being made continually. They cannot all be true because many of them contradict each other. We need to be discerning and try and sift through the noise to find the truth. Otherwise we run the risk of being diverted down blind alleys chasing our own tails.
Gracy
27th April 2021, 12:59
I’ve been noticing a troubling new phenomena concerning research methods. Go into it with mind already well made up on given subject, scour the corners of the internet sure to yield pleasing results, and spit it out there quick as can be as factual reality.
That’s not research, that’s confirming confirmation bias.
Salv8tion
6th May 2021, 15:19
Q Accidentally Outed Himself, But QAnon Followers Don’t Care (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7m58a/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care)
In the final episode of Cullen Hoback’s six-part QAnon documentary, which aired late Sunday night, the administrator of 8kun effectively admitted to posting there as Q, the conspiracy movement’s anonymous leader.
In one of the final scenes of “Q: Into the Storm,” Ron Watkins spoke about his newfound fame as a key spreader of baseless claims about voter fraud after Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Then he said: “It was basically three years of intelligence training, teaching normies how to do intelligence work. It was basically what I was doing anonymously before.“
Realizing his mistake, Watkins quickly added, “...but never as Q.”
I feel like this needs to be the sole focus when discussing the Q story moving forward. How can something like this be explained away to continue the Q narrative? Ron Watkins slipped big time and knew it, thus smiling and laughing while backpedaling. Helluva ending to the doc and should be required viewing for anyone who fell down the rabbit hole and are still "trusting the plan".
Journeyman
6th May 2021, 16:18
Q Accidentally Outed Himself, But QAnon Followers Don’t Care (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7m58a/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care)
In the final episode of Cullen Hoback’s six-part QAnon documentary, which aired late Sunday night, the administrator of 8kun effectively admitted to posting there as Q, the conspiracy movement’s anonymous leader.
In one of the final scenes of “Q: Into the Storm,” Ron Watkins spoke about his newfound fame as a key spreader of baseless claims about voter fraud after Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Then he said: “It was basically three years of intelligence training, teaching normies how to do intelligence work. It was basically what I was doing anonymously before.“
Realizing his mistake, Watkins quickly added, “...but never as Q.”
I feel like this needs to be the sole focus when discussing the Q story moving forward. How can something like this be explained away to continue the Q narrative? Ron Watkins slipped big time and knew it, thus smiling and laughing while backpedaling. Helluva ending to the doc and should be required viewing for anyone who fell down the rabbit hole and are still "trusting the plan".
Do you think that's a sufficient explanation for the content of the Q posts though? It's the link to the Trump administration and the continuing hat tips from the US military accounts that need to be explained. How's Ron doing that?
Chris Gilbert
6th May 2021, 16:22
Q Accidentally Outed Himself, But QAnon Followers Don’t Care (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7m58a/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care)
In the final episode of Cullen Hoback’s six-part QAnon documentary, which aired late Sunday night, the administrator of 8kun effectively admitted to posting there as Q, the conspiracy movement’s anonymous leader.
In one of the final scenes of “Q: Into the Storm,” Ron Watkins spoke about his newfound fame as a key spreader of baseless claims about voter fraud after Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Then he said: “It was basically three years of intelligence training, teaching normies how to do intelligence work. It was basically what I was doing anonymously before.“
Realizing his mistake, Watkins quickly added, “...but never as Q.”
I feel like this needs to be the sole focus when discussing the Q story moving forward. How can something like this be explained away to continue the Q narrative? Ron Watkins slipped big time and knew it, thus smiling and laughing while backpedaling. Helluva ending to the doc and should be required viewing for anyone who fell down the rabbit hole and are still "trusting the plan".
While it's a thought that does lend itself to yet more rabbit hole speculation, it could be possible that at some point an insider did actually slip some information to Ron Watkins (but with him also making up or embellishing some Q drops as well).
samildamach
7th May 2021, 15:33
Q Accidentally Outed Himself, But QAnon Followers Don’t Care (https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7m58a/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care)
In the final episode of Cullen Hoback’s six-part QAnon documentary, which aired late Sunday night, the administrator of 8kun effectively admitted to posting there as Q, the conspiracy movement’s anonymous leader.
In one of the final scenes of “Q: Into the Storm,” Ron Watkins spoke about his newfound fame as a key spreader of baseless claims about voter fraud after Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Then he said: “It was basically three years of intelligence training, teaching normies how to do intelligence work. It was basically what I was doing anonymously before.“
Realizing his mistake, Watkins quickly added, “...but never as Q.”
I feel like this needs to be the sole focus when discussing the Q story moving forward. How can something like this be explained away to continue the Q narrative? Ron Watkins slipped big time and knew it, thus smiling and laughing while backpedaling. Helluva ending to the doc and should be required viewing for anyone who fell down the rabbit hole and are still "trusting the plan".
While it's a thought that does lend itself to yet more rabbit hole speculation, it could be possible that at some point an insider did actually slip some information to Ron Watkins (but with him also making up or embellishing some Q drops as well).
Q was never one person,and the poster was changed many times,thsts well documented in this thread.thats why speculation of who q is impossible
arwen
17th October 2022, 15:13
Bolshevik Operation Trust (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust) - but WAY more sophisticated.
This new documentary belongs here, I suspect. I found it worth the time to view. 48 minutes.
Released October 14, 2022.
Mentioned in this video also is the role of people such as Ben Fulford, David Wilcock and X22.
Rapper and activist Elliot Truth breaks down the Q operation, and attempts to explains its anatomy down to the finest detail. Elliot does his best to crack the case of who is behind the mysterious but malicious Q text posts and limitless fanfare.
Can I tell you who Qanon is? No, but I have a pretty darn good theory on who they might be, and I found out some things that are even more important as well as frightening along the way.
The Q Deception - Full Release | Q unmasked? (https://rumble.com/v1nwrag-the-q-deception-full-release-q-unmasked.html)
Personal note: I find it utterly heartbreaking how so many good and decent people who simply love their country and want to live their lives in peace are repeatedly so hopelessly defenseless against these kinds of sophisticated Marxist operations which are now almost invincible due to the amount of data and data analysis tools available.
The PAYtriots
The Pardon Party 🥳
Donald Trump & Michael Flynn are not in the same boat.
One actually has crimes they have committed on the books.
The other is being accused of crimes that are not on the books.
The Deep State is going after D. Trump to convict him of something Robert Mueller had 3 years to find. To no avail.
The legal system is going after Michael Flynn because he actually has evidence of what he has done.
Russian Wire Transfers
Lying to the FBI
False Statements to the Justice Department about Turkey.
Selling Nuclear Secrets to Saudi Arabia.
M. Flynn Connection to the Manhattan Madam.
Being on the phone with Charles Flynn during Jan 6th.
Etc.
People keep trying to parallel M. Flynn situation with D. Trump like they are fighting the same fight.
Did we forget M. Flynn requested immunity so he can testify against D. Trump without himself being criminally liable for the info he was ready to spill?
Did we also forget that this same M. Flynn pleaded the 5th when it came to his brother Charles Flynn being implicated in the Jan-6th False Flag?
Blood thicker than water right? So who do you think is the H-20 in this situation?
Why didn't M. Flynn give D. Trump that same honor & respect he gave his brother if they are both fighting the Deep State? That's a rhetorical question.
Do we even need to say anything about Roger Stone?
Do you all want me to tell you a secret about that Richard Nixon tattoo R. Stone has? I know he reads my account. 🤭
Did you all know that some SRA survivors like Fiona Barnett exposed the fact that Richard Nixon & Billy Graham were named in the Watergate Ped▪️phile Records?
Why do you think R. Nixon squashed the investigation into Watergate and called it a National Security risk?
Did you know an employee who worked at Jeffery Epstein Island identified Roger Stone by the tattoo he has of Nixon on his back? Guess what R. Stone was doing while he was being watched by that person?
Wasn't Keith Raniere (NXIVM) & Roger Stone close associates?
But I digress.
Brian Gamble what do you think about this? Aren't you a huge fan of M. Flynn & R. Stone right?
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onawah
6th May 2024, 03:11
WEF Whistleblower Has Q Freakout On-Air
FORBIDDEN.NEWS
MAY 05, 2024
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/wef-whistleblower-has-q-freakout?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
(This from Najadi sounds in part like the kind of nonsense that Kim Goguen and her cohorts put out all the time, but it also underlines why it's so important to expose this kind of disinformation and hopium which blurs the truth so insidiously by mixing in nonsense with the kind of truth that whistleblowers must go to great pains to reveal, such as the deadly vaccine agenda.
Kudos to Alexandra Jones for the following article and to Alex Jones for at least questioning Najadi though he didn't go far enough, for the more these psyops are supported unquestioningly, the more the hopium addicts are being enabled, and the more our painfully earned discernment is challenged.
It appears that the apple didn't fall far from the tree after all where Najadi is concerned, and he is on the psyop payroll.)
""Pascal Najadi, whose father co-founded the World Economic Forum with Klaus Schwab was on The Alex Jones Show last week and he shocked his host by going "Full Q".
Last week, Pascal Najadi claimed to Alex Jones that Klaus Schwab had been executed by US Delta Forces in coordination with the Swiss military and that, "The Swiss Territory is under full control of the US military right now, as we speak."
Najadi went on to claim that Elon Musk and Emmanuel Macron are "Gone, because the US Military and over 30 military forces – without their leaders – are under the control and command of the United States and the US Space Force is the coordinating hub –"
This is where Alex Jones cut him off. Alex despises the entire Q PSYOP and he bristles whenever anything vaguely topical is raised, especially because the Biden Regime has mercilessly targeted Americans who innocently followed the Q posts.
Nonetheless, Najadi blew past Alex' denials, saying that he had pictures of Hillary Clinton's execution at GITMO, which he said will be published in a video that he was releasing the next day; he also said that he has execution photos of Obama and others and that Bill Gates and Pope Francis and members of the British Royal Family have also been executed and that the Vatican and the WHO are now closed.
Najadi continued, "We are, since the 20th of December of 2019 – anybody can look it up, now, OK please – Congressional website, House.gov. Title 50 Chapter 33 War Powers Resolution Section 1550. Put in, 'Declared: Global Worldwide Defense War, US-Led, with Irregular – I'm Irregular, just to be clear – and Regular military and Partner Force in Special Operations.'
"So, since then, we are in a global defense war. It's covert. Yes it is. And I'm not going to compromise anybody – you cannot ask anybody who is in the military and they cannot talk. And it's good that way. Nobody will confirm it that way – but you can read it.
Najadi then triumphantly claims that both JFK and JFK Jr are alive. To announce something like that without providing absolute proof has is a cruel insult to the ears of many, including my own, as someone who was friends with JFK Jr and Carolyn and who has mourned their deaths of since 1999.
We are a planet of 5th Generation Warfare-weary people, desperately trying to cling to sanity. If you’re heaping more chaos onto the mix and you’re not providing any clarity on anything; you’re not helping, you’re hurting!
Alex Jones does not agree with his guest and he pronounces Pascal Najadi "absolutely mad". He considers, for a moment, that Najadi might be a paid influencer but then he thinks the better of it and believes that Najadi is cracked; a wounded warrior.
I disagree with Alex. I think Najadi is part of the same PSYOP as Derek Johnson, SGAnon and Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: They all refer to Donald Trump as the "Commander-in-Chief" and all refer to a secret international military operation currently underway, prosecuting and executing members of the Cabal. I have no idea if there is any coordination between the above-referenced individuals but their general message is similar.
The real question is how did a prominent Swiss banker morph into this super thirsty Q influencer?
Some people love this brand of hopium. Najadi may gain a slew of new followers who will eat this up – but I am not one of them.
This is not to say that I don't believe that operations to counter some of the atrocities of our Satanic overlords are underway. I do. I believe Tore Maras and Steve Pieczenik when they say that a lot of the insanity that we are witnessing is, indeed part of a global "sting operation".
It's like we're trapped in the Celebrity Death Match of PSYOPs and it’s not easy to understand what’s going on.
As Alex Jones says, "If I was the FBI or if I were the CIA: You better stop this psychological warfare right now! It has turned in on itself! You are the enemy! Everyone hates you! And now, it's taking on cartoon-level hatred! Give up! Stop! Quit!"
We have endured the past 8 years of being relentlessly strafed by psychological operations deployed by bureaucrats in our government – whose salaries we pay and who bribe their agents in the State Media with our tax money.
These are the same people who have expertly executed Color Revolutions and overthrown governments worldwide and now, they're doing it here, to us, to you, with the tax they take from the sweat of your brow – and they're not stopping. Their primary weapons are informational, cyber, algorithmic and psychological, produced by actors from General Stanley McChrystal's PeopleFirst.
We need to fully comprehend that the military-grade orchestrated gaslighting and psychological operations to which we are being subjected by our demonic bureaucrats at SES, the DoD, FBI, HHS, CDC, FDA, DOJ, FBI, DHS and CISA and behind the January 6th Committee, in concert with the Fake News media are a scaled-up version of a torture technique developed for interrogations described in a manual published by the National Defense Intelligence College in 2006, entitled, 'EDUCING INFORMATION – Interrogation: Science and Art', in a chapter called "Alice in Wonderland: The Power of Applied Confusion".
"Alice in Wonderland: The Power of Applied Confusion The aim of the Alice in Wonderland or confusion technique is to confound the expectations and conditioned reactions of the interrogatee. He is accustomed to a world that makes sense, at least to him: a world of continuity and logic, a predictable world. He clings to this world to reinforce his identity and powers of resistance. The confusion technique is designed not only to obliterate the familiar, but to replace it with the weird…[and] as the process continues, day after day, as necessary, the subject begins to try to make sense of the situation, which becomes mentally intolerable…[and] he is likely to make significant admissions, or even to pour out his story."
This manual cites an earlier 1963 torture manual entitled, "KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation Manual, Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual", which was based on CIA research, much of it conducted through the MK ULTRA program but some of it going all the way back to the Spanish Inquisition of the 1300s.
In other words, what we're being put through is literally torture. The purpose of this technique is not just to obliterate the normal but to replace that which is normal with the mindbogglingly bizarre, so that the person goes into a state of trauma that is so awful, they would rather give up their secrets and return to a reality that makes sense, than to continue with more of this insanity.
The unrelenting Fake News, the fake Trump Prosecutions and fake impeachments, E Jean Carroll, Christine Blasey Ford, Jussie Smollett, Fani Willis and the media crucifixion of Kyle Rittenhouse, hundreds of billions for Ukraine, the transgender putsch, all of it is designed to badger everyone into agreement with the "New Thing", in order to make the badgering go away for just a little while.
Identifying the manipulations as they're happening will help you assert your cognitive boundaries and will help you to protect yourself from these incessant 5th Generation Warfare attacks, because it’s not going to stop. We may be living like this for the rest of our lives, so we need to learn how to survive the jive and to power through.
Thanks for reading Forbidden’s Substack!"
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Ratszinger
6th May 2024, 18:54
I'm not saying I believe Alex or his guest or you but if you think it's a psy-op then you must also believe Trump is in on it if not a ring leader of this psy-op. I mean he must be because Derek was invited to his events in Florida at his home even along with Garcia and others like Roger Stone and Mike Lindell. They all follow Derek and Dr. Jan too and have met with her where they were taking photos of the two with Trump all smiles. If it's a psy-op it's all the Trump associates in on it and I find that much more difficult to believe than to lean toward there may be some hints of truth to it after all! I'm not saying I know and it may be a psy-op but just to counter the one already in play on the left side of the aisle. God knows they've been messing with the minds of the masses using their MSM narrative control and lock step scripts across all the network talking heads and their bodies abusing them too we now know with their jabs. See and Trump's stance on the vaccine is why I don't support him. If he was in on that he is just as criminal as Fauci and WHO, the CDC, NIH and big pharma.
onawah
8th May 2024, 04:28
I think Trump is in on it too in his own weird narcissistic way, which probably prevents him from actually admitting to himself that he's in on it, or perhaps he actually doesn't know that he's in on it, because he wants so much to believe he's a great hero and to be seen as such.
All the people who want a great hero to save them want to believe that so much too, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Narcissism is a very powerful force in the world today...:sad:
When I feel myself beginning to waver and falling for the "hero here to save us" narrative, I just tune in to someone really, clear-headed like Whitney Webb, and than I get back on track.
See:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer&p=1598506&viewfull=1#post1598506
I don't believe that RFKennedyJr. is the hero here to save us either, or that he is always right, but at least he seems honest, sincere, humble, and has been doing his damnedest to fight the corruption for a long time despite the odds, so there is some comfort in that, and hope that not all is lost when it comes to the office of the POTUS.
Though I also have to say that I think Trump will win because that has been the plan of the Globalists all along, and that they want to bring the US (and other Western nations down) via illegal immigration, and then have Trump make like the hero and send a lot of them in the US back where they came from.
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114419-The-migration-crisis-on-the-US-Mexico-border&p=1611063&viewfull=1#post1611063
...All of which will cause a lot more pandemonium and "necessitate" the ushering in of CBDC and possibly even martial law.
The Globalists' wet dream. :facepalm:
I'm not saying I believe Alex or his guest or you but if you think it's a psy-op then you must also believe Trump is in on it if not a ring leader of this psy-op. I mean he must be because Derek was invited to his events in Florida at his home even along with Garcia and others like Roger Stone and Mike Lindell. They all follow Derek and Dr. Jan too and have met with her where they were taking photos of the two with Trump all smiles. If it's a psy-op it's all the Trump associates in on it and I find that much more difficult to believe than to lean toward there may be some hints of truth to it after all! I'm not saying I know and it may be a psy-op but just to counter the one already in play on the left side of the aisle. God knows they've been messing with the minds of the masses using their MSM narrative control and lock step scripts across all the network talking heads and their bodies abusing them too we now know with their jabs. See and Trump's stance on the vaccine is why I don't support him. If he was in on that he is just as criminal as Fauci and WHO, the CDC, NIH and big pharma.
The PAYtriots
If me stating " The Flynn Network " is a grifter network means I have made some enemies whom are devout to the The Flynn Network religion so be it.
I'd rather out and also not support dirty players in the Q / truther movement.
Dangling The Carrot: Wagging The Tongue
What year is it?
How many interviews?
How many tours?
How many books?
How many post on Twitter/X?
How many documentaries?
How many opportunities has M. Flynn had to drop these names?
Why is everyone who is serious about sharing info and disclosing names have been threatened by lawsuits from Michael Flynn?
I gave you all plenty of names that checked out.
With no price.
With not pay wall.
With no subscription.
With no membership.
But in order to get this from M. Flynn you have to buy the book or watch the movie and still do not receive that information.
Isn't this the hallmark of every other political figure who wants a job on Capitol Hill?
They have all these fantastic ideas.
They have all these grand promises.
They have all this political charisma.
They have all these photo Ops with your favorite celebrity.
They have all these must see interviews.
They have all these grandiose projects in the works.
Then once it comes time to show & prove they fall flat on their face.
Politicians Who Promised The World And Delivered Nothing
Just like Richard Nixon
Just like Al Gore.
Just like Barrack Obama.
Just like John Edwards.
Just like Sarah Palin.
Just like Vivek Ramaswamy.
Just like Nikki Haley.
Just Like Kari Lake.
Remember when Bill Clinton said in 1996 that the era of big government is over?
Remember when Jimmy Carter said in 1976 that he would never lie to us?
Remember George H.W. Bush said no new taxes in 1988?
Remember in 2003 when George Bush Jr said "Mission Accomplished"?
Remember in 2008 when Barack Obama said "If you choose change you will have a nominee who doesn't take a dime from Washington lobbyists and PACs."?
Guess what?
All of them were lying to the American people.
Who else is following this trend?
Michael Flynn.
Keep this on mind.
None of the women who have been giving us names of these P•d•s have none of the popularity M. Flynn has.
None of these women have the money Roger Stone has.
None of these women have the platform Alex Jones has.
None of these women have the followers James O'Keefe have.
But you received info from these victims of sexual satanic abuse while they are out giving interviews with no protection.
Some are on the run everyday.
Some are sleeping in their cars everyday.
Some are being harassed everyday.
Some are being followed everyday.
Some are being threatened everyday.
Some are having mental breakdowns everyday.
But somehow through all of that they are willing to risk their lives to give you all the info about people in military & government for free at their expense.
The Bohemian Grove
The Luciferian BrotherHood
The Order Of Melchizedeck
Skull & Bones
The Jesuits
You received info on all the people who are apart of those clubs.
And you know what is the funny part?
All the people who were willing to give that info "For Free" to Michael Flynn were all turned away and ignored.
All the people women who tried to give that information to James O'Keefe "For Free" were all turned away and ignored.
All the people who tried to give that info to Alex Jones "For Free" were all turned away and ignored.
Why?
Because people with these large platforms are only given that to maintain the bubble of info feed to you that doesn't compromise the plan to move certain people into position to sustain the system these abused victims came from.
Which would be the what?
The Human Trafficking system.
The Adrenochrome system.
The Drug Trafficking system.
Because if these big names in the patriot sphere were to invite the victims of those things on to their platform names would be dropped that would implicate the people pretending to fight to end the trafficking.
And you know what would happen?
They wouldn't be able to continue their political aspirations to be in the White House.
People didn't know Steve Bannon was accepting money from Jeffery Epstein.
People didn't know John Mappin was in Jeffery Epstein Blackbook.
People didn't know Randy Quaid was at Bohemian Grove.
People didn't know Roger Stone was on Jeffrey Epstein Island.
People didn't know Michael Flynn & Roger Stone were hanging out with the Manhattan Madam.
People didn't know Richard Nixon was a P•d•.
You know why?
Because none of those people shared that info to you.
Why would they?
They are the perpetrators.
You got all that info from the victims.
I hope you wasn't waiting for Michael Flynn to put any of this info in the movie. 🤭
People do not know what commonsense looks or sounds like anymore.
You want to see an example?
The Deep State is after Donald Trump right?
The Deep State sent Michael Flynn 8 subpoenas right?
The Deep State was behind the Jan-6th event right?
So why did Michael Flynn plead the 5th when he had the opportunity to expose who was behind Jan-6th?
I mean the media called it an insurrection right?
Section 2383. The law prohibits incitement, assistance, and participation in a rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States and its laws. The punishment for this crime includes a fine, up to 10 years in federal prison, and ineligibility for federal public office.
Don't you all think this was a prime opportunity to put the Deep State away by starting off with a incident that made international headlines? 10 years along with a fine is not nearly enough. I agree.
Being Indicted.
Being arrested.
Being charged.
Being convicted.
For at least one crime could of bought a lot of time to stack on the other ones to add even more years on top of the 10. But we couldn't even get that starter pack open to begin any of it.
But we all know why as these are ofcourse rhetorical questions.
We all know Michael Flynn gets hot and bothered under the collar when his brother Charles Flynn is brought up as being one of the people on the phone call in regards to where the command came from to tell the National Guard to stand down for 3 hours.
Guys, can I pose a trivia question to you?
If Donald Trump said he was not president during 2021 while under oath.
If Col. Earl Matthews said Donald Trump was stripped of his authority on January 6th by military leaders.
If the Joe Biden administration didn't get sworn into office until January 21st 2021.
If there is no oath of office on record from anyone for that year 2021 in the library of congress.
If Donald Trump declared the 2nd Declaration of Independence on July 4th in 2020.
Ask yourself who was in power in 2021 while all the Jan-6th shenanigans was going on? (The military)
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Another PAYtriot Making Waves
in the truther scene and ready to " strike gold in them there hills " in my opinion is Pascal Najadi, reading the guys bio on wikipedia and having him push bitcoin, the currency of trade of the pedo networks, the guy seems as shady as a merchant selling his wares out of the boot of his car in a dark back ally.
I am just waiting to see what his next move will be:
a special promo code PNajadi123 for which you can get 5% off on your next bitcoin purchase at the link below,
OR
his autobiography as a special agent in the US Space Force and subsequent book tours and live events.
Here is a recent video I wasted and hour and twenty minutes on.
Link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/vglylfYzo2NC/
onawah
13th May 2024, 22:02
Pascal Najadi's Next Moves
QUOTE=onawah;1612192]Pascal Najadi on Alex Jones/WEF Whistleblower Has Q Freakout On-Air
WEF Whistleblower Has Q Freakout On-Air
FORBIDDEN.NEWS
MAY 05, 2024
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/wef-whistleblower-has-q-freakout?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
(This sounds in part like the kind of nonsense that Kim Goguen and her cohorts put out all the time, but it also underlines why it's so important to expose this kind of disinformation and hopium which blurs the truth so insidiously by mixing in nonsense with the kind of truth that whistleblowers must go to great pains to reveal, such as the deadly vaccine agenda.
Kudos to Alex Jones for at least questioning Najadi though he didn't go far enough, for the more these psyops are supported unquestioningly, the more the hopium addicts are being enabled, and the more our painfully earned discernment is challenged.
It appears that the apple didn't fall far from the tree after all where Najadi is concerned, and he is on the psyop payroll.)
""Pascal Najadi, whose father co-founded the World Economic Forum with Klaus Schwab was on The Alex Jones Show last week and he shocked his host by going "Full Q".
Last week, Pascal Najadi claimed to Alex Jones that Klaus Schwab had been executed by US Delta Forces in coordination with the Swiss military and that, "The Swiss Territory is under full control of the US military right now, as we speak."
Najadi went on to claim that Elon Musk and Emmanuel Macron are "Gone, because the US Military and over 30 military forces – without their leaders – are under the control and command of the United States and the US Space Force is the coordinating hub –"
This is where Alex Jones cut him off. Alex despises the entire Q PSYOP and he bristles whenever anything vaguely topical is raised, especially because the Biden Regime has mercilessly targeted Americans who innocently followed the Q posts.
Nonetheless, Najadi blew past Alex' denials, saying that he had pictures of Hillary Clinton's execution at GITMO, which he said will be published in a video that he was releasing the next day; he also said that he has execution photos of Obama and others and that Bill Gates and Pope Francis and members of the British Royal Family have also been executed and that the Vatican and the WHO are now closed.
Najadi continued, "We are, since the 20th of December of 2019 – anybody can look it up, now, OK please – Congressional website, House.gov. Title 50 Chapter 33 War Powers Resolution Section 1550. Put in, 'Declared: Global Worldwide Defense War, US-Led, with Irregular – I'm Irregular, just to be clear – and Regular military and Partner Force in Special Operations.'
"So, since then, we are in a global defense war. It's covert. Yes it is. And I'm not going to compromise anybody – you cannot ask anybody who is in the military and they cannot talk. And it's good that way. Nobody will confirm it that way – but you can read it.
Najadi then triumphantly claims that both JFK and JFK Jr are alive. To announce something like that without providing absolute proof has is a cruel insult to the ears of many, including my own, as someone who was friends with JFK Jr and Carolyn and who has mourned their deaths of since 1999.
We are a planet of 5th Generation Warfare-weary people, desperately trying to cling to sanity. If you’re heaping more chaos onto the mix and you’re not providing any clarity on anything; you’re not helping, you’re hurting!
Alex Jones does not agree with his guest and he pronounces Pascal Najadi "absolutely mad". He considers, for a moment, that Najadi might be a paid influencer but then he thinks the better of it and believes that Najadi is cracked; a wounded warrior.
I disagree with Alex. I think Najadi is part of the same PSYOP as Derek Johnson, SGAnon and Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: They all refer to Donald Trump as the "Commander-in-Chief" and all refer to a secret international military operation currently underway, prosecuting and executing members of the Cabal. I have no idea if there is any coordination between the above-referenced individuals but their general message is similar.
The real question is how did a prominent Swiss banker morph into this super thirsty Q influencer?
Some people love this brand of hopium. Najadi may gain a slew of new followers who will eat this up – but I am not one of them.
This is not to say that I don't believe that operations to counter some of the atrocities of our Satanic overlords are underway. I do. I believe Tore Maras and Steve Pieczenik when they say that a lot of the insanity that we are witnessing is, indeed part of a global "sting operation".
It's like we're trapped in the Celebrity Death Match of PSYOPs and it’s not easy to understand what’s going on.
As Alex Jones says, "If I was the FBI or if I were the CIA: You better stop this psychological warfare right now! It has turned in on itself! You are the enemy! Everyone hates you! And now, it's taking on cartoon-level hatred! Give up! Stop! Quit!"
We have endured the past 8 years of being relentlessly strafed by psychological operations deployed by bureaucrats in our government – whose salaries we pay and who bribe their agents in the State Media with our tax money.
These are the same people who have expertly executed Color Revolutions and overthrown governments worldwide and now, they're doing it here, to us, to you, with the tax they take from the sweat of your brow – and they're not stopping. Their primary weapons are informational, cyber, algorithmic and psychological, produced by actors from General Stanley McChrystal's PeopleFirst.
We need to fully comprehend that the military-grade orchestrated gaslighting and psychological operations to which we are being subjected by our demonic bureaucrats at SES, the DoD, FBI, HHS, CDC, FDA, DOJ, FBI, DHS and CISA and behind the January 6th Committee, in concert with the Fake News media are a scaled-up version of a torture technique developed for interrogations described in a manual published by the National Defense Intelligence College in 2006, entitled, 'EDUCING INFORMATION – Interrogation: Science and Art', in a chapter called "Alice in Wonderland: The Power of Applied Confusion".
"Alice in Wonderland: The Power of Applied Confusion The aim of the Alice in Wonderland or confusion technique is to confound the expectations and conditioned reactions of the interrogatee. He is accustomed to a world that makes sense, at least to him: a world of continuity and logic, a predictable world. He clings to this world to reinforce his identity and powers of resistance. The confusion technique is designed not only to obliterate the familiar, but to replace it with the weird…[and] as the process continues, day after day, as necessary, the subject begins to try to make sense of the situation, which becomes mentally intolerable…[and] he is likely to make significant admissions, or even to pour out his story."
This manual cites an earlier 1963 torture manual entitled, "KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation Manual, Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual", which was based on CIA research, much of it conducted through the MK ULTRA program but some of it going all the way back to the Spanish Inquisition of the 1300s.
In other words, what we're being put through is literally torture. The purpose of this technique is not just to obliterate the normal but to replace that which is normal with the mindbogglingly bizarre, so that the person goes into a state of trauma that is so awful, they would rather give up their secrets and return to a reality that makes sense, than to continue with more of this insanity.
The unrelenting Fake News, the fake Trump Prosecutions and fake impeachments, E Jean Carroll, Christine Blasey Ford, Jussie Smollett, Fani Willis and the media crucifixion of Kyle Rittenhouse, hundreds of billions for Ukraine, the transgender putsch, all of it is designed to badger everyone into agreement with the "New Thing", in order to make the badgering go away for just a little while.
Identifying the manipulations as they're happening will help you assert your cognitive boundaries and will help you to protect yourself from these incessant 5th Generation Warfare attacks, because it’s not going to stop. We may be living like this for the rest of our lives, so we need to learn how to survive the jive and to power through.
Thanks for reading Forbidden’s Substack! "
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Another PAYtriot Making Waves
in the truther scene and ready to " strike gold in them there hills " in my opinion is Pascal Najadi, reading the guys bio on wikipedia and having him push bitcoin, the currency of trade of the pedo networks, the guy seems as shady as a merchant selling his wares out of the boot of his car in a dark back ally.
I just waiting to see his next move will it be:
a special promo code PNajadi123 for which you can get 5% on your next bitcoin purchase at the link below,
OR
his autobiography as a special agent in the US Space Force and subsequent book tours and live events.
Here is a recent video I wasted and hour and twenty minutes on.
Link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/vglylfYzo2NC/
Vangelo
13th May 2024, 22:49
....
(This sounds in part like the kind of nonsense that Kim Goguen and her cohorts put out all the time, but it also underlines why it's so important to expose this kind of disinformation and hopium which blurs the truth so insidiously ...
Oyyy Vey
I was going to skip this post because it was QAnon related (I don't read any of the Kim Goguen or Q related posts because I have come to believe that they are designed to confuse and misdirect people.) but when you said there is another person who attempted to weave a Kim G type tale I had to at least skim it to find out what this Pascal Najadi believed. I did not get very far before I stopped because it was indeed just as outlandish. Now I have a new person who I will ignore. Thank you for the heads up.
onawah
13th May 2024, 22:55
Most welcome!! :ROFL:
(Though I doubt Najadi actually believes the tall tales he is spinning, any more than Goguen does her own. :facepalm:)
....
(This sounds in part like the kind of nonsense that Kim Goguen and her cohorts put out all the time, but it also underlines why it's so important to expose this kind of disinformation and hopium which blurs the truth so insidiously ...
Oyyy Vey
I was going to skip this post because it was QAnon related (I don't read any of the Kim Goguen or Q related posts because I have come to believe that they are designed to confuse and misdirect people.) but when you said there is another person who attempted to weave a Kim G type tale I had to at least skim it to find out what this Pascal Najadi believed. I did not get very far before I stopped because it was indeed just as outlandish. Now I have a new person who I will ignore. Thank you for the heads up.
Ratszinger
14th May 2024, 13:33
Pascal Najad didn't do anything but further discredit, shoot down and embarrass the movement further than it embarrassed itself. Not that it ever needed much help there!
The PAYtriots - Roger Stone, Steve Bannon & Pascal Najadi
Roger Stone there is no allegedly.
Steve Bannon
Andrew Badolato
Brian Kolfage
We're all caught stealing money from "We Build The Wall" project.
Guess who is serving prison time for that?
Andrew Badolato & Brian Kolfage
Steve Bannon will be next to do his time.
Donald Trump got rid of all of you parasites.
But I know crooks cover for crooks.
People do not know there was a cult behind Jan-6th that you are directly connected to Roger Stone.
Are you familiar with Sara Bronfman?
Are you familiar with Edgar Bronfman?
Are you familiar with Claire Bronfman?
You should be because you were the Bronfmans’ liaison to Joe Bruno, and directed funds to the coffers of the state GOP on their behalf.
Guess what the Bronfmans were involved in?
The NXIVM human trafficking Cult. You did the audits remember?
The Albany Times Union reported that the Bronfmans had donated $35,000 worth of private jet travel and $31,600 in contributions to the state’s Republican Senate Campaign.
In 2006, NXIVM enlisted Stone’s services to bolster their lobbying efforts. Keith Raniere, alongside Nancy Salzman, wanted Stone to navigate the political landscape to help them harm their enemies.
But you know what this is your dirty work. I couldn't care less of what your personal endeavors were with these corrupt evil people.
We are just tired of you all calling everything you get caught doing as some political attack by the Deep State to garner unwarranted sympathy from people who keep donating to you all because they are under the impression you are being targeted because you are trying to save our great nation from tyrants when you all were/are doing under the table business with these scum.
You and Steve Bannon were directly connected to child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. So I do not think no one should be listening to any of you. We are waiting for all of you to exit stage left and never return. Hopefully Donald Trump will help expedite this process because I am personally tired of you all trying to ride Trump's coattail to personally enrich yourselves at the expense of the American people.
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To Pascal Najadi
I do not know where you found the balls & gall to come out and say these things. But walking around as if you got pants full of brass ones against people who are actually in the military is a very bold but diminishing statement. Especially when control this platform.
I guess America is that kind of place where everyone can play up this image that has no basis in reality. Because I do not know if FCB Decode or Pascal Najadi know this but it's always going to be "**** Michael Flynn" on this account. And that's on God.
You can have a show.
You can put on a show.
You can dress up for a show.
You can have costume for a favorite character from a show.
But when you step on the wrong terrain pretending to be the Big-Boy on the block someone who is not here just for show will give you a closing act that is nowhere to be found in any script you been practicing in the mirror.
• Don't mistake bravado for competence; it's a recipe for disaster.
• Showmanship has its limits, especially when it comes to challenging those with real expertise.
• Arrogance can blind you to the reality of the situation.
• Boldness without substance can lead to humiliation.
• Playing pretend can have real-world consequences.
FCB Decode @FCBD3CODE is not the person you want to express these feelings to. He's been proven to be just as unstable as any other M. Flynn groupie who throw temper tantrums when their Paytriot Lord & Savior is not held in high regard.
Stop leading your followers to believe you have any authority to what goes on in our country Aussie from down under. You are not Crocodile Dundee. You have 2k followers on Twitter. Most of your views come from mentioning me on your Telegram channel. This tough guy act will not get you any starring roles in this screenplay you are auditioning for on your show.
Please refrain from this performance you are putting on for your listeners. This is where I will draw the line. And you should as well. Before someone takes out a white crayon and draws one around you. Nobody who is exposing real traitors in our government have time to be addressing some foreigner.
This is not your fight.
This is not your country.
This is not your call.
We are not playing games with anyone of you. Please leave this battle to us and go about your day pushing crypto or your premium membership to other BS you are involved in.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
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A Deeper Dive On Michael Flynn
The Ship Is Sinking: Will They Wave The White Flag?
People a seismic shift has taken place. This stance by Jan H. Hayes has caused great distress among "The Flynn Network". They did not see this coming.
Their plants in "The Paytriot Movement" are being uprooted. And they are coming out against this woman who I have spoken to privately on many occasions.
Dr. Hayes was the one who told me about M. Flynn's aspirations of becoming the president. But he can't because the White House as we know it today no longer exist in the form it once had under the 1871 Corp Act that is now null/void.
I showed you all the 2nd Declaration of Independence signed by Donald Trump on July 4th 2020. This is when Washington DC officially died. This is why Donald Trump said he was not president between Jan 1st to January 21st of 2021.
Why does M. Flynn constantly want people to fund his legal issues when he clearly had broken the law in the past that caused him to be fired and put in jail for 22 days until Scott Bennett bailed him out?
In his book "War By Other Means", General Keith Kellog criticized General Michael Flynn’s leadership as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) from 2012 to 2014. Kellog claims that Flynn was overly ambitious and did not respect the agency's intelligence analysts.
He also alleges that Flynn frequently pushed his own agenda and attempted to micromanage intelligence programs.
Kellog accuses Flynn of being more concerned with political favors and personal gain than with running the DIA effectively. Kellog portrays Flynn as difficult to work with and a divisive figure within the intelligence community.
People, the PAYtriots who support M. Flynn want to give you the impression that no one of any real credibility is against M. Flynn. This is how they have gas lighted many people into getting behind this infallible figure. They had to create this bubble for him.
According to General Keith Kellogg, he also criticized Michael Flynn’s management style, claiming that Flynn was often abrasive and disrespectful towards his staff and senior officials. Ofcourse he was as evidence by his foreign bribes from Russia and the 40k he owed the army.
For those that don't know Michael Flynn owed the Army $40,000 due to a speaking fee he accepted from Russia in 2015. Flynn, a former National Security Advisor, was paid $45,000 for a speech at the 10th anniversary gala of the state-sponsored Russian television network RT in December 2015.
The Department of the Army determined that Flynn failed to obtain the necessary approvals before accepting compensation from an entity substantially owned or controlled by a foreign government, violating the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Continuing on from Kellog opinion on Flynn where he also stated that Flynn was frequently absent from the office and was often too preoccupied with personal matters, rather than focusing on his responsibilities at the DIA.
Additionally, Kellog states that Flynn was too eager to involve himself in controversial issues and that he often spoke out publicly without proper vetting, which lead to negatively impacting the agency’s image and operations.
People ask yourself why Michael Flynn left out this information in his movie? He is not being attacked by "The Deep State". He is being given legal papers from the government that has to do with crimes his supporters are oblivious to him committing.
The Cabal doesn't pardon anyone after already spending 22 days in jail due to his involvement in the Russia investigation and subsequent legal complications. Flynn initially pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador. However, he later tried to withdraw his plea, leading to a prolonged legal battle. Which of course he tried to milk as being of victim of something he helped fester.
Did you all know that the "Marshall Plan" for the Middle East revolved around a plan to build nuclear reactors across the region, which was backed by a group of retired U.S. military officers and involved U.S. and Russian companies?
Did you know in order to legally do something like this you are supposed to register as a foreign agent right? This is basics diplomacy people. But of course if he did that it would reveal plans that goes against our country.
The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) requires individuals and entities that work on behalf of foreign interests in the United States to register with the Department of Justice (DOJ) and disclose their activities, relationships, and financial compensation.
And people want to act as though Donald Trump was not informed about this? Why in the world would any CIC want someone like that in their administration and risk the foreign relationship Donald Trump is trying to build in the Middle East by putting a US Embassy in Jerusalem? Michael Flynn is a liability in that regard.
But of course we have to allow D. Trump to make his own decisions. Because I would be quite the entertained teddy bear if D. Trump hires M. Flynn again and fire him subsequently. Will he beat the 22 day record?
Flynn worked as an advisor to ACU, one of the companies involved, from April 2015 to June 2016, and he also went on a trip in June 2015 to Egypt and Israel to lobby on behalf of the project.
Let me be a savage and tag some of my arch nemesis along with accounts I also respect. It's a mixed bag here. 🤭
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norman
16th May 2024, 09:42
Silly stuff . . . .
Flynn is running a backup option, as the true patriot he is should.
Of course he's ready and willing to jump in to Trump's slot if the worst happens, he wants to save the country. Making the Flynn movie is part of that. If he's required he has to be electable at a moment's notice without big questions about who he is.
I didn't know Halper was against him until I read that. I'd choose Flynn over an old buddy of Nancy Pelosi any day. I didn't know I'd have to make that choice tho'. It's a no brainer.
What bull****. The entire deep state including Pence-the-plant made Flynn target No 1 and ousted him as fast as they could. Even Obama told Trump not to hire Flynn.
Come on folks smell the coffee.
OK, I'm beginning to get what the noise is.
Butt hurt low IQ Q drop puzzle heads who can't handle being told to shut up about Q because that was SO last year and counter productive in the state of play we are in now, being wound up by a twitterer who spotted a gap he could fill with trouble.
The PAYtriots - Michael Flynn, Mike Lindell & Ivan Raiklin
Ivan Raiklin: Come Get Your Wolf Tickets
Mass Arrest?
Mass Execution?
On a livestream?
Of people who are anti Michael Flynn?
Do you see where you are in this war people?
Ivan Raiklin will use a private army of 80,000 people to conduct illegal raids. They will also use Sheriffs who sold out to facilitate this.
Ask yourself why Ivan Raiklin is not using that list that M. Flynn had since 2017 of high level P•d•phil•s that he was supposed to release first the past 7 years?
Then Michael Flynn has the audacity to release a movie called "Deliver The Truth-Whatever The Cost".
I mean it's going on 10 years M. Flynn. You care to clue is in? You said at whatever the cost but you pleaded the 5th twice. That doesn't sound like you are ready to deliver anything at the expense of yourself like other folks who have died or been arrested for doing so.
But you love putting on a performance for your followers. None of you bring on real survivors. Real witnesses. Real insiders on your platforms. They get ignored by everyone in The Flynn Network when presenting evidence of things that implicate the same government officials you were supposed to expose 8 years ago.
Do you see the cult supporting this?
Roger Stone
Steve Bannon
Nick Fuentes
Seth Keshel
Ivan Raiklin
James O'Keefe
Doug
None of these media figures who were out there for Jan-6th were arrested. But most of them received subpoenas that they didn't cooperate with. When you pay attention to the names Ivan Raiklin is mentioning in this video it is people being investigated for their role in Jan-6th and other crimes.
So anybody who is going after "The Flynn Network" on a legal basis with evidence to support warrants & subpoenas are deemed "Deep State" by Ivan Raiklin.
Do you see how this works now?
Have you noticed that Donald Trump is not coming to their aide?
Have you noticed Donald Trump is not offering any assistance?
Have you noticed Donald Trump is not saying they are being unfairly targeted?
Ivan Raiklin, in this video, is trying to give you the impression that the FBI is going after these men based on bogus offenses. Remember, it's the top 5% of the FBI that are corrupt. Those are the ones who took bribes.
Those are the ones who have blackmail on them. Those are the ones who spy on Americans. Those are the ones money laundering. But I. Raiklin does not make that distinction. He can't because he needs to galvanize patriots around false righteous indignation for their next January 6th false flag to have maximum impact.
This is why I. Raiklin is going after those who he personally deems "The Deep State" because these are the people who have the evidence to bring them down. Remember, Mike Lindell & Michael Flynn have phone records that they do not want investigated. So they launch bogus lawsuits to buy time.
Why do you think M. Flynn pleaded the 5th on Jan-6th?
Think about this remember Mike Lindell dropped his lawsuit against the Justice Department?
"Based on the Stipulation for Dismissal without Prejudice filed by Plaintiffs Michael J. Lindell and MyPillow, Inc., and Defendants United States of America, Attorney General Merrick Garland, the United States Attorney for the District of Minnesota, and FBI Directory Christopher Wray, ECF No. 93, It IS Ordered that the action is dismissed without prejudice, and without costs, disbursements, or attorneys’ fees to any party," said the order. He was selling wolf tickets the entire time, folks.
Mike Lindell knew he was guilty. He knew he was caught. He knew this was not going to go anywhere. But it looked good right? This is why they bring you up the hill with great anticipation and it comes crashing down with nothing to show for all the bluffing, huffing, and puffing they were doing.
All he was doing was putting on a performance to give the American people the illusion that he was trying to fight an unfair election system. Not once do these people who go on these grand missions bring Michele Swinick on any of their platform to talk about November 8th Maricopa County. Which is where the issue of the stolen election derived from. Not the stupid Dominion Voting Machines. That's an afterthought. All the corruption can be traced back to one document.
I told you all before not to follow these public figures who keep giving you all nothing but performances. They are not showing any of you real paperwork. Remember everything goes back to one document and that is the "Chain of Custody Reports."
This is why Mike Lindell dropped his lawsuit. He is giving you all the run around.
Sidebar: Did you all know Mike Lindell was hosted at a party thrown by Ava Roosevelt, Sharon Bush, and Jean Shafiroff? Think about that one.
Why do you think Mike Lindell was ordered to pay 5 million arbitration award?
Do you all remember when the Justice Department dropped their case against Michael Flynn in 2020?
Now do you know who is the head of that department is? Attorney General Merrick B. Garland.
Guess who was also the attorney general for that case that helped M. Flynn be relieved of it? Attorney General William Barr.
Guess what? Donald Trump does not like Garland or Barr.
Why? Donald Trump referred to the investigation into his handling of classified documents as a "witch hunt" and claimed that Garland's election of special counsel Jack Smith was proof that the DOJ was "corrupt" and "weaponized" against him.
Do the math people. There is a reason D. Trump distanced himself from Michael Flynn & William Barr. These two crooked snakes are the reason the Justice Department dropped the case against M. Flynn.
This summer will be on fire. 🔥
They will go after those who have made their list. Which includes people on Twitter/X.
You can take a wild guess on who that includes.
They are swatting people who broke the law.
They are not swatting people who have warrants out for their arrest.
They are not swatting people because they ignored subpoenas.
They are not swatting people because they are an illegal immigrant.
They are not swatting people because they are a fugitive on the run.
They are not swatting people because they have hostages in their home.
They are not swatting people because they have classified government documents.
No. They are planning on swatting people because you didn't sat nice things about Michael Flynn.
They are planning on ignoring your 1st Amendment Rights to exercise "Freedom of Speech". All in the name of their Lord & Savior General M. Flynn. Why? Because they want to clear the floor so he can run for presidency without aby open opposition to his campaign. He didn't do a 40 city tour and release a movie in election year for nothing.
You think he is about to let that go to waste?
And these people are doing this without Donald Trump's involvement. You all need to pay attention to the "Social Media Influencers" who are promoting this. They are all operating outside "The Law" and constitution.
You already heard Michael Flynn on the Alex Jones show talking about how it's "time to bring the guns out". Do you see the desperation now? These are the same people behind Jan-6th that they were hoping to pin on D. Trump. As you can see nothing has gone to plan. So they will try one last attempt to ensure he doesn't make it to the White House.
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norman
18th May 2024, 10:47
I don't know who this Ariel guy is but you're having your heads shafted big time.
It won't be long before he posts something 'proving' Obama, Brennan and Clapper were the good guys all along. That's where this is heading.
mountain_jim
18th May 2024, 13:45
I don't know who this Ariel guy is but you're having your heads shafted big time.
It won't be long before he posts something 'proving' Obama, Brennan and Clapper were the good guys all along. That's where this is heading.
not to mention the judge that tried to railroad Flynn every which way..
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I don't know who this Ariel guy is but you're having your heads shafted big time.
It won't be long before he posts something 'proving' Obama, Brennan and Clapper were the good guys all along. That's where this is heading.
Of course I'll take your word as lore instead Norman, and what does CIC Trump have to say about Flynn.
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Who's this Ariel guy, that's easy he speaks about his past in a recent posts " warts and all ".
14600 Beekman Rd. Old address.
You all know I still have my old ID to prove this right?
I grew up learning the streets early. I broke into stores. Stole bikes. Kicked over trash cans. Threw eggs at people's houses. Did pit bull fights. Dice Games.
But this was lightweight compared to what my friends were doing. This is why my father moved us from Bass St to Beekman Rd. Which is the house below. Especially after my neighbor saw me at the Pool Hall at 11pm at 9 years old. That's when my father knew it was time to move.
Anything you can think of the hood I was doing. You do not want to fund yourself in this part of New Orleans today. It's not nice back there.
I posted this because you have people with the wrong idea about who they think I am.
I am not a journalist.
I am not a reporter.
I am not a social media influencer.
I am just a N*gga good at talking ****.
And back it up the same way I had to do on the corner. This tough guy act is only performed on the computer for most people in "The Flynn Network". The same people who would lock their car door if I walked past it. So please ignore these people. They do not have nothing for us. Nothing but hot air.
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This store is in New Orleans Calliope Projects. This is where I used to do my dirt. I got shot at here and a bullet brushed my lower calf but still left a wound/scar. I was attempting to sale my 1st bag. My grandmother lived here. My cousins as well.
I sold weed. Ecstasy. And tried to move up the ladder to other things. My friend Carl Williams (RIP) was killed around here last I heard. Not sure it was this specific location. But it was definitely in the Calliope P. I grew up in the raw, rough, and rugged side of life. But I made it out.
So ofcourse as you all know my blunt style of writing comes from facing the worst things growing up here. My brother still doing time in federal. My other friend ain't never getting out. My father never wanted me hanging around my brother. Due to his lifestyle choice to run the streets.
What I did was to get by while in school. Never intended to make a career out of it. I just wanted some lunch money in my pocket. I always gave my homies money. Some of them Niggas was wearing my outfits before I even put them on myself.
And I was still betrayed by one of them. But I seen it coming. I just cut him off without any drama. I remember my father told me that my brother had 900 people on file working for him in multiple states. So he was moving some real weight.
Me, I was just moving from job to job once I got out of high school. I was all over New Orleans. Holly Grove was my favorite spot. Which is where rapper Lil Wayne is from. But I only met him when I was going to Fannie C. Williams middle school on Bullard right across from East Over where Birdman from "Cash Money" used to stay.
That's where I tried to perform my 1st freestyle in front of them. They was laughing at my **** and told me to keep writing. And I did for a short while. Some of you already seen my old rap lyrics. Anyway I just wanted to give you all a brief glimpse into who I am.
So please do not presume some vanilla wafers on the internet is going to talk tough and scare anything over here because they assume I was raised like Carlton Banks or Eddie Winslow because I know how to write.
Look up my old address. 14600 Beekman Rd. Off Morrison. It's currently the deadliest place in New Orleans East and people barely live there. It was worse before Hurricane Katrina. Think about that.
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Now I'd like to see emperor that has no clothes Michael Flynn lay his past out on the table for everyone to see.
norman
19th May 2024, 04:26
You could start by watching the FLYNN movie.
That Trump tweet was May 2019
This is what Trump thought of Flynn in May 2023. If it doesn't start at 7.00 mins ish go there manually.
https://rumble.com/embed/v2nfrkk/?pub=1yatds&start=429
You could start by watching the FLYNN movie.
That Trump tweet was May 2019
This is what Trump thought of Flynn in May 2023. If it doesn't start at 7.00 mins ish go there manually.
https://rumble.com/embed/v2nfrkk/?pub=1yatds&start=429
You know for fact that is CIC Trump on the other end saying that?
They have the tech now to make Roseanne Barr sound like CIC Trump and we are expected to believe that is CIC Trump on the other end because Flynn say so, please.
I take it that the mobile phone screen showing " Natalie (45)" is some secret code for CIC Trump yeah, LOL.
More than likely it's not Roseanne Barr on the other end it's Natalie on the other end for real.
norman
19th May 2024, 07:52
Over and Out on this topic.
The Flynn Files the plot thickens???
Looks like I will be adding another book to my library.
Chapter: The Flynn Fiasco
Excerpt: "Flynn, in a moment of either hubris or sheer stupidity, decided to play fast and loose with the truth when questioned by the FBI. He lied about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, during the transition period. It was a classic case of political intrigue gone wrong, like a game of chess where the king is exposed and the pawns are left to fend for themselves."
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Link to the book available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Official-Michael-Flynn-Report-DOJ/dp/1647046211
Flynns response, when you can't find the words???
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" Very disappointingly " for me personally as he is a fellow aussie and I thought a good guy, it seems Riccardo Bossi might be showing his true hand also.
So my question is has Riccardo been
- forced to do this to expose himself by the white hat's in the Australian Defence Force or
- is he showing his true colours or
- has he gone to the darkside after succumbing to the pressures of being targeted?
I'm not sure.
The proof, firstly with his recent promotion of Pascal Najadi.
Here:
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Then his further support for Pascal Najadi and this other character FCB D3CODE in this video below, FCB D3CODE authored the Flynn twit response above to Ariel.
Also:
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Note: The above opening image of this video is the emblem of the Nightstalkers, these are the guys that did the fly by of my house in July 2023 whilst taking part in Talisman Sabre 2023.
I don't know if Riccardo is taking a shot at me or not, but " if " he is that's fine I'll keep on outing traitors whenever possible.
Link to my post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President&p=1571926&viewfull=1#post1571926
Link wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_(Airborne)
You could start by watching the FLYNN movie.
That Trump tweet was May 2019
This is what Trump thought of Flynn in May 2023. If it doesn't start at 7.00 mins ish go there manually.
https://rumble.com/embed/v2nfrkk/?pub=1yatds&start=429
You know for fact that is CIC Trump on the other end saying that?
They have the tech now to make Roseanne Barr sound like CIC Trump and we are expected to believe that is CIC Trump on the other end because Flynn say so, please.
I take it that the mobile phone screen showing " Natalie (45)" is some secret code for CIC Trump yeah, LOL.
More than likely it's not Roseanne Barr on the other end it's Natalie on the other end for real.
(Looks like Ariel might be following this thread).
Shots fired.
Shots fired.
Shots fired.
How can anyone in "The Flynn Network" come off the heels of this and convince anyone that there is any real relationship or friendship between these two?
Do you know how embarrassing it would be to say this to someone who pretends To be closer to somebody who they do not see as anything except an associate?
Did you all see this burn from Eric Trump to Michael Flynn?
This tells me everything I need to know about the "Current Relationship" that was never explored in full context up until recently when I responded to his tone deaf son M. Flynn Jr.
This video can be considered my magnum opus of M. Flynn uploads
Link: https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1792398071113900417
BREAKING: Eric Trump tried to call his dad (@realDonaldTrump). When he couldn’t get through @GenFlynn was trying to call and Eric Trump said, “ If he's not picking up on me, he’s definitely not picking up on you General… I hate to burst your bubble.”
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Side note, if people are confused as to why Eric would keeping company with the likes Flynn, remember the old adage " keep your friends close and your enemies closer ".
" Very disappointingly " for me personally as he is a fellow aussie and I thought a good guy, it seems Riccardo Bossi might be showing his true hand also.
So my question is has Riccardo been
- forced to do this to expose himself by the white hat's in the Australian Defence Force or
- is he showing his true colours or
- has he gone to the darkside after succumbing to the pressures of being targeted?
I'm not sure.
The proof, firstly with his recent promotion of Pascal Najadi.
Here:
vglylfYzo2NC
Then his further support for Pascal Najadi and this other character FCB D3CODE in this video below, FCB D3CODE authored the Flynn twit response above to Ariel.
Also:
sgDxJdgdw5Yx
Note: The above opening image of this video is the emblem of the Nightstalkers, these are the guys that did the fly by of my house in July 2023 whilst taking part in Talisman Sabre 2023.
I don't know if Riccardo is taking a shot at me or not, but " if " he is that's fine I'll keep on outing traitors whenever possible.
Link to my post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President&p=1571926&viewfull=1#post1571926
Link wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_(Airborne)
In this video from the 21st May 2024, Riccardo Bossi speaks about his thoughts on Pascal Najadi at 1.05 minutes to about 1.15 minutes and touches on Flynn.
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PAYtriot - Alex Jones
Entertaining as hell with his explosive style and theatrics on stage mixed with his sprinkling of truths that only go so far ... Well it looks like you have been outed Alex now everyone can see the elephant in the room.
Alex Jones: The Zionist Mossad Agent
1. – Alex Jones was married to a Jewish woman named Violet Nichols, with whom he has three(3) children.
2. – Alex Jones’ Jewish ex-wife and children all qualify for Israeli citizenship under Israel’s ‘Law of Return’.
3. – Alex Jones is funded by at least thirty-four(34) Jewish sponsors and advertisers whom financially support his radio show and websites.
4. – Alex Jones’ flagship radio station, KLBJ AM, in Austin, Texas, is owned by Emmis Communications, a media conglomerate based in Indianapolis, Indiana. The founder, chairman, president, and CEO of Emmis Communications is the Zionist Jew Jeffrey Smulyan.
5. – Alex Jones’ radio show is broadcast on Sirius XM Radio. The chairman of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Eddy Hartenstein. The CEO of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Mel Karmazin. The President of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Scott Greenstein. Of the six(6) executive officers of Sirius XM Radio, five(5) are Jews.
6. – Alex Jones employs a Jewish attorney named Elizabeth Morgan who is also employed by Holly Lev Bronfman, the sister of Edgar Bronfman, Jr. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Bronfman family, one of the wealthiest and most influential Jewish Zionist families in North America.
7. – Alex Jones’ employee Molly Maroney, the managing editor of Infowars Magazine, is a former intern for Stratfor, a private intelligence agency based in Austin, Texas, which has been linked to the C.I.A. and Mossad. The founder and CEO of Stratfor is the Zionist Jew George Friedman. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and Stratfor.
8. – Alex Jones’ parents David Jones and Carol Hamman have been employed by the C.I.A. in the past. Alex Jones’ deceased uncle Bill Hamman was employed by the C.I.A. and U.S. Army Special Forces. Alex Jones’ cousin Verna Grayce Chao is currently employed as a C.I.A. contractor by Dell (previously by IBM). Alex Jones’ other cousin Buckley Hamman was one of the original founders of Infowars in 1995. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Central Intelligence Agency.
Alex Jones’ father testified in court on Monday, April 24th, saying in part that he has made “millions of dollars” over the past several years creating front companies that contract business with Infowars. Alex Jones’ mother testified in court on Friday, April 21st, saying in part that Infowars is a “family business” and that she and Alex Jones’ father are both heavily involved in all aspects of the Infowars operation. Since Alex Jones has already stated in the past that both of his parents were/are C.I.A. operatives, these recent admissions from Alex Jones’ parents constitute direct evidence that Infowars is a covert U.S. Govt. intelligence operation.
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PAYtriot - Ivan Raiklin
A theory.
You all want to know why this isn't going anywhere?
Ivan Raiklin is the one who runs blackmail operations for Michael Flynn.
You can imagine what he has on Jim Jordan. Especially when you think about what went on when he was a coach.
Remember, Ivan is the one who gave everyone their talking points on the Speaker Trump narrative. You have to pay attention to the political figures that Ivan Raiklin takes pictures with. I can not stress how important that is.
Think about the "Stop The Steal" op. Who did Ivan approach? Jim Jordan. Then go look up Ali Alexander. This is one big network people. It's not hard to spot these people. They always tell on themselves when they take these pictures.
Guess who else took a picture with Kari Lake? Ivan Raiklin. He is the one that goes around and gives everyone the game plan.
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PAYtriot - Alex Jones
Entertaining as hell with his explosive style and theatrics on stage mixed with his sprinkling of truths that only go so far ... Well it looks like you have been outed Alex now everyone can see the elephant in the room.
Alex Jones: The Zionist Mossad Agent
1. – Alex Jones was married to a Jewish woman named Violet Nichols, with whom he has three(3) children.
2. – Alex Jones’ Jewish ex-wife and children all qualify for Israeli citizenship under Israel’s ‘Law of Return’.
3. – Alex Jones is funded by at least thirty-four(34) Jewish sponsors and advertisers whom financially support his radio show and websites.
4. – Alex Jones’ flagship radio station, KLBJ AM, in Austin, Texas, is owned by Emmis Communications, a media conglomerate based in Indianapolis, Indiana. The founder, chairman, president, and CEO of Emmis Communications is the Zionist Jew Jeffrey Smulyan.
5. – Alex Jones’ radio show is broadcast on Sirius XM Radio. The chairman of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Eddy Hartenstein. The CEO of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Mel Karmazin. The President of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Scott Greenstein. Of the six(6) executive officers of Sirius XM Radio, five(5) are Jews.
6. – Alex Jones employs a Jewish attorney named Elizabeth Morgan who is also employed by Holly Lev Bronfman, the sister of Edgar Bronfman, Jr. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Bronfman family, one of the wealthiest and most influential Jewish Zionist families in North America.
7. – Alex Jones’ employee Molly Maroney, the managing editor of Infowars Magazine, is a former intern for Stratfor, a private intelligence agency based in Austin, Texas, which has been linked to the C.I.A. and Mossad. The founder and CEO of Stratfor is the Zionist Jew George Friedman. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and Stratfor.
8. – Alex Jones’ parents David Jones and Carol Hamman have been employed by the C.I.A. in the past. Alex Jones’ deceased uncle Bill Hamman was employed by the C.I.A. and U.S. Army Special Forces. Alex Jones’ cousin Verna Grayce Chao is currently employed as a C.I.A. contractor by Dell (previously by IBM). Alex Jones’ other cousin Buckley Hamman was one of the original founders of Infowars in 1995. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Central Intelligence Agency.
Alex Jones’ father testified in court on Monday, April 24th, saying in part that he has made “millions of dollars” over the past several years creating front companies that contract business with Infowars. Alex Jones’ mother testified in court on Friday, April 21st, saying in part that Infowars is a “family business” and that she and Alex Jones’ father are both heavily involved in all aspects of the Infowars operation. Since Alex Jones has already stated in the past that both of his parents were/are C.I.A. operatives, these recent admissions from Alex Jones’ parents constitute direct evidence that Infowars is a covert U.S. Govt. intelligence operation.
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Now what would be those personal assets?
His $2.6 million Austin-area home.
Other real estate he owns.
His stake in Infowars, the media company he founded in 1990 to spread lies and conspiracy theories.
The liquidation of his personal assets is part of a Chapter 7 bankruptcy proceeding. This means a court-appointed trustee will sell off his assets to pay his creditors, which in this case are the Sandy Hook families.
It's worth noting that Jones has been using Infowars to enrich himself to the tune of millions of dollars over the years. Remember Alex Jones has been doing this for decades. I did an entire post on this last year. He is a sensationalist.
And this is where people like Roger Stone, Ivan Raiklin, and Michael Flynn like to go to push all types of narratives so it could reach a massive audience because they have none of their own.
Remember, R. Stone pushed his propaganda on Infowars about Michael Flynn running for president under R. Stone draft plan. I still have that.
This is why whenever they get in trouble they always present it as a political attack. M. Flynn hasn't told people what those 8 subpoenas were about yet. But he wants donations to fight them. He always wants your money to get out of legal trouble.
Keep in mind it was Scott Bennett who bailed M. Flynn out of jail.
It was then Donald Trump who pardoned him.
And Michael Flynn betrayed both of them.
Get all of them the f•ck outta here.
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Further replies
You don't think that Alex has still done a lot of important truth telling, albeit being made to step around important issues?
Ariel's reply.
It was never about telling the truth. It was about controlling it to ensure it remains the only accepted truth. There's a difference. We got stuck with Alex Jones because they killed Bill Cooper. Why? Because he had a truth that couldn't be bought and diluted in order to satisfy Zionist sponsors for his show.
Michael Flynn for VP, maybe not???
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Dustin Nemos - Trump Is The Antichrist (aka when all else falls to take down CIC Trump)
"The Flynn Network" strikes again.
How many versions of the antichrist we have?
The Biblical version.
The Great Pyramid version.
The Nostradamus version.
How many candidates for the Antichrist we have had?
King Abdullah
Kim Jong-IL
BILL GATES
Lord Maitreya
The Tribe of Dan
But no. Donald Trump somehow is being shoehorned into this discussion by "Social Media Influencers" who are known sellouts for the almighty 💵.
Out of all the people who we know have nothing but corpses in their wake. People we know are involved in human tra°•icking. People we know were on J♤ffrey Ep◇tein Isl♧nd. People we know were into adr•n•chr•me. People we know loved pizza parties. Have you noticed none of these people are considered the antichrist?
According to traditional interpretations of the Book of Revelation in the New Testament, the Antichrist is a figure who will oppose God and lead the world astray in the end times before the return of Christ.
Is this correct?
But Following a five-minute walk from the White House, Trump arrived at St. John's Church at 7:06 p.m. His daughter, Ivanka, handed him a Bible which she carried there in her handbag. Trump turned the Bible over, and held it aloft as he stood in front of Ashburton House beside the church noticeboard.
Is this correct?
Donald Trump is not infallible or invincible. As we can see throughout his court case. According to traditional interpretation, the Antichrist is a supernatural figure with immense power and authority And is not from America.
Is this correct?
I would like to presume your answer is yes from the aforementioned questions.
Rome
Middle East
Europe
Are places associated with the antichrist being from. Why isn't America on that list? Every other scholar throughout history has had a very hard time pin pointing who the antichrist is with decades of research. With thousands of hours of study. But Nino is presenting to the world the one guy who has identified who that is.
Ask yourselves why do people want Donald Trump to be the antichrist?
Why is it always coming from people who directly or indirectly support Zionism?
Have you noticed we can not directly connect D. Trump to all the things that is considered crimes?
But all the people who have committed those crimes are never deemed the antichrist.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Bin Laden
Barrack Obama
Bill Gates
Dr. Fauci
Hillary Clinton
J•ffr•y Epst°in
Jim Jones
Joe Biden
But these people are trying to convince you that the only man who is basically putting all these people away through executive orders is the one who will lead you away from God and commit atrocious acts of violence upon the people of the world.
People remember what I told you all before. Those who have committed "Crimes Against Humanity" are not going to Gitmo because they are apart if any secret society. None of that information comes up in their trials.
Why?
Because it's not illegal. It's not a crime. The Space Force is a job not a religion or cult. So when you look at the logo or symbols remember the old regime when D. Trump came into office were already in the Secret Space Program. Keep in mind the Air Force released 122 pages of communications between the public servants who designed the uniforms, logo, and seal for Space Force. They had four different logos. The redacted the other 3 and showed us the final version.
Why?
Remember, D. Trump is still cleaning up "The Swamp". Did you actually think they only existed on the ground? Remember they speak through symbols. Which is why whenever you see the the Baphomet it basically means Satanic worship. Satanic practices. Satanic activities. Satanic crimes. Which includes all the things people are in Gitmo for.
I want you all to think about this. Donald Trump knows the Space Force is apart of the Cabal utility arm. So in order to keep them in line he wants to put the National Guard into the new Space Force. Guess who is opposing that decision?
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. The one who D. Trump wants fired. For obvious reasons. So ask yourself why did US governors say in the letter to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin that the proposal to absorb Air National Guard space operations into the Space Force "undermines over 100 years of precedent as well as national security and military readiness?"
When Donald Trump announced the Space Force he was basically telling us he is going after the Cabal who have already been operating in Space. Where did you think the DEWs were coming from?
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The Activity Log: Unplugging The Evidence
Michael Flynn was questioned about January 6th. If everything was controlled by Nancy Pelosi he would have not had to remain silent and forego the opportunity to blame everything on her. Charles Flynn admitted he was on the call when the commands were given to call of the National Guard.
Please do not forget the testimony given by Colonel Earl Matthews.
Who knew the call to command the NG to stand down came from military. Not only that he also disclosed that Donald Trump was stripped of his power by military leadership on Jan-6th. So ask yourself if they had the power to do that to the CIC what makes you think they were taking orders from Nancy Pelosi who ranks under CIC?
I told you all before the military is above all 3 branches of government. Which means everything falls on them. That is why D. Trump could not challenge their call to revoked his power.
It was also stated that after the inspector general's report was released in November 2021, Matthews sent a memo to the House Jan. 6 committee and a Senate committee accusing two Army officers of misleading both the inspector general and Congress.
Do you see what I mean as to how the military manipulate congress to do what it wants? Now you have army generals retaliating against Earl Matthews. Because what he started during his hearing pokes holes in the stories of the army's account of what happened on January 6th.
People do you know why M. Flynn wanted to seize the voting machines? Because if he or his contacts were involved in the unauthorized access to certain things it could lead back to an entire Flynn network. Everything has a Digital Footprint.
Forensic specialists would check for digital footprints that could indicate unauthorized access or tampering. This includes IP logs that show which devices accessed the machines, when, and potentially what changes were made.
Emails, texts, and other communications between Flynn or his associates and any entities responsible for the voting machines might be reviewed if legally obtained through warrants, looking for any indications of planning or coordination. This is one reason why he wants to protect those phone records.
If the voting machines were connected to the internet, network logs would be crucial. These logs can help trace back any remote access activities, including potential breaches or unauthorized access points.
Network Log Outline
Timestamp:
• Records the exact date and time of each event or transaction.
Device Identifier:
• Identifies the specific device that logged the event, often by IP address or device name.
Source IP Address:
• Shows the originating IP address of the packet or connection attempt.
Destination IP Address:
• Indicates the target IP address to which the traffic was directed.
Port Numbers:
• Lists source and destination ports involved in the communication, highlighting the type of service being accessed (e.g., HTTP on port 80).
Protocol Used:
• Specifies the protocol (e.g., TCP, UDP) used for the transmitted data.
Action Taken:
• Describes what action was performed, such as allowed, blocked, or flagged as suspicious.
Payload Size:
• Records the size of the data packet transmitted.
User Identifier (if applicable):
• Shows user information when the network activity can be traced to a specific user account, useful in systems requiring authentication.
Flag Information:
• Notes any anomalies detected during the session, such as fragmented packets.
Now do you all see why Michael Flynn attempted to sue the Jan-6th Committee to hide his phone records?
Remember when Mike Lindell tried the same thing but failed and called off his lawsuit?
Now you understand clearly why he wanted to seize the voting machines in 2020. Why he wanted to declare Martial Law. He knows he is in trouble. This is why he is trying to shoehorn his way back into a VP position. Because if everything went to plan as he intended in 2020 he wouldn't have needed to do a Jan-6th in 2021.
Because we would have been under Martial Law. And he would have had his way and gotten rid of all the evidence of his involvement in the 2020 election fraud.
Michael Flynn Flynn had claimed that complying with the House's demands -- either with the committee collecting his phone records or if he were to speak to them under subpoena -- would violate his constitutional rights. But Flynn, the name of your movie is speak the truth at whatever the cost right?
You want to know what us funny?
Flynn was initially in talks with the committee and was beginning to preserve and collect documents he had to share with them, his lawsuit says. And the committee had agreed to delay his deposition, setting it for that Monday.
But knowing the hot seat was coming up Flynn then told them he planned to assert his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, and didn't appear in person. Instead, he went to court, according to his lawsuit.
These were all the people protecting their phones records in "The Flynn Network".
■ Mark Meadows, former Trump chief of staff, challenging a subpoena for his testimony and a subpoena for his Verizon phone records;
■ Cleta Mitchell, election lawyer for Trump, challenging a subpoena of her AT&T phone records.
■ Alex Jones, far-right-wing media figure, challenging subpoenas for testimony, documents and phone records;
■ Ali Alexander, "Stop the Steal" organizer, challenging a subpoena of his Verizon phone records;
■ John Eastman, conservative lawyer, challenging a subpoena of his Verizon phone records;
■ Amy Harris, freelance photographer, challenging a subpoena of her Verizon phone records.
More info on this later.
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Alex Jones & The Flynn Network Come Crashing Down
Cause for celebration anyone? 🍻
The CIA/Mossad blow horn platform that "The Flynn Network" likes to use to push their rhetoric is about to dissappear.
Now what will they do?
Roger Stone announced his coalition government without
Donald Trump on this platform.
Ivan Raiklin announced his agenda to replace D. Trump if he was to get assassinated on this platform.
Michael Flynn announced his one world religion on this platform.
And you think I am going to cry about it being shutdown? 🤣
This should have happened a long time ago. But people are under the impression that they are actually listening to a "Truth Teller". When in fact he only pushes a certain truth so it can be the only defacto truth and discarding any other view as invalid.
This is why "The Flynn Network" can go on Info Wars unchallenged in anything they spew.
No rebuttals.
No retort.
No alternative views.
And people are starting to realize how instrumental this Alex Jones was in the Jan-6th incident. He is there to amplify the agenda to give it this patriotoc appearance so you would assume that the only enemy we are dealing with is leftist lunatic tyranny.
Which he portrays as the only ones hell bent on taking him down. All opposition to his platform are painted as Dem/Liberals. When people like me do not even run a political account.
So imagine this getting shutdown and Donald Trump picking his VP who will not be Michael Flynn and they not having the ability to go on Info Wars to b*tch about it and create some false narrative.
Good riddens Alex Jones. You had a nice run. You were nothing but a knockoff Bill Cooper & Alan Watts anyway.
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What does Q have to say about Alex Jones / AJ ( I take it that MOS is short for Mossad)
meat suit
18th July 2024, 18:22
Pascal Najadi Urgent Message from Q - GAME OVER
https://rumble.com/v4zpo4e-pascal-najadi-urgent-message-from-q-game-over.html?mref=yxbnr&mrefc=8
I just plonk this here, listened to this a week ago while driving. Its hard work...
This guy has most likely completely lost it.. he claims to be Q, JFK and the the earth is flat amongst other things.
It sounds like he has just pulled all sorts from the internet and presents it in some agitated state.
BMJ
17th October 2024, 15:38
A Deeper Dive On Michael Flynn
A Trip Down Memory Lane: Picking The Spot
Remember when Flynn threw the Jan-6th Gala last month where they were supposed to celebrate the victims and D. Trump declined to show up?:
Remember when Ivanka Trump cropped out Kimberly Guilfoyle from those pics at the Tiffany Trump wedding back in November 2022?
Remember when Eric Trump told Michael Flynn that if my father is not answering the phone for me he is definitely not going to pick up for you?
Remember when Donald Trump said back in in 2023 that he will bring Michael Flynn back if he wins in November 2024? I do. Do you think he changed his mind? Or....... will those 8 subpoenas come into play? 🤫
Do you see how those little jabs are aimed at sketchy people "The Trump Family" keeps at arms length for people they barely trust?
People we are watching a stage play. A script already written. The outcome already decided. The actors know their parts. And the film is rolling. Nothing we are seeing is catching D. Trump by surprise.
D. Trump said at his August 6 2020 Whitpool Corporate Manufacturing Plant address that he upset some very rich people and he was a marked man.
What do I think he was referring to? Well as many are unaware Donald Trump shutdown a private security contract that Michael Flynn put together while under the B. Obama administration. Which was a multi billion dollar government contract for the 'Military Industrial Comlex'.
This contract was being set up for Erik Prince who runs the Blackwater Mercenary group. The ones who always attack, harass, or kill people when hurricane ravaged areas are still populated with people who couldn't evacuate.
Ask people in New Orleans
Ask people in Florida.
Ask people in North Carolina.
Blackwater are demons with weapons & boots.
This contract was for the China Belt & Road Initiative. This is why General Mark Milley is so scared that Donald Trump will win because he will be court martialed and tried for treason. Because he was helping China set this up. All of this goes back to human trafficking.
This China project would have helped protect dark money. Dark projects. Dark people. And dark tunnels. This ties back to the illegal Middle East Marshall Plan M. Flynn tried to set up as well. All of these deals were not supported by D. Trump.
I want you all to look into the meeting between, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, and Jared Kushner that happened at The Trump Tower. Jared Kushner suggested using backchannels to conceal everything.
People, they want D. Trump gone because he is cutting into their money that is needed to sustain the dark money in Human Trafficking. Which is D. Trump #1 priority. But he is not making any of this obvious to anyone. Which is the same tactic he used to take down Jeffrey Epstein without looking like he was overtly after him.
Why would this be any different for any other corrupt figures that have ingratiated themselves with the D. Trump family? People did you know I have people very close to Melania Trump who follows my page?
Do you think thar person has come out to denounce my info about what I have been sharing with you all? Nope! Again I told you all war tactic are never obvious to the outside viewers. And it will remain that way until it is no longer neccessary.
You all have a good night.
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BMJ
8th November 2024, 08:54
The Flynn Circle Jerk
The Nerve. The Audacity. The Gall 🤡🤡🤡
Do you all see what this clown just posted?
Michael Flynn didn't donate anything to Donald Trump.
Michael Flynn told Donald Trump supporters that the election were too rigged to vote.
Michael Flynn didn't register any mid or high voter turn out for Donald Trump.
Michael Flynn said on Alex Jones show in 2023 that he didn't care for another Donald Trump administration.
Michael Flynn went around the country telling people that Donald Trump could be assassinated.
Michael Flynn was telling everyone that don't expect anything from the GOP.
Michael Flynn was not invited to any of the rallies along with Ivan Raiklin.
Michael Flynn & Roger Stone went on Alex Jones trying to establish a Coalition government that did not include Donald Trump.
And you are going to sit here and tell thus bold face lie that Michael Flynn was the reason Donald Trump got reelected?
Did you know the video footage is still up with Roger Stone telling viewers that M. Flynn is the ticket?
Did you forget that Ivan Raiklin was on Alex Jones telling everyone that if Donald Trump is assassinated they have a better option?
The Flynn Network has zero shame. And you are going to tell everyone this as if all of this information is still not available?
There are no Latinos.
There are no Blacks.
There are no Asians.
There are no Indians.
In any part of America that are getting on their hands & knees and giving any praise or credit to Michael Flynn about his contribution to Donald Trump winning.
Your father released a movie about how great he was. Not about how great Donald Trump was for the country. Did you forget about that part? Your family are nothing but parasites. This is why none of you were ever invited to any rallies. D. Trump will not be found anywhere thanking you or your father about how he helped contribute to his win.
Freemasons always have to stick that 33 in there. Just like your father retired after 33 years right?
Donald Trump did 900 rallies? How many was M. Flynn invited to? And you want to think a measly 55 city tour holds up to 900 rallies and think that helped D. Trump when 99% of the country didn't know M. Flynn was pushing a movie about himself?
Then after all of the hoopla about Michael Flynn being VP which would make Donald Trump assassination proof we woke up and he chose JD Vance.
Your father didn't help D. Trump. M. Flynn was campaigning in an election year all across this country telling voters how great he was. D. Trump was a foot note.
Nobody felt confident about Donald Trump being elected after they left the Michael Flynn seminars. Everyone was looking at him as the potential replacement due to how he set himself up as the one who would step in of D. Trump were to be killed.
But I am happy that D. Trump knows about your schemes. Especially if I know. Which is why he has your father at arms length and would never put him as VP. Getting a desk job would be showing your Father mercy.
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BMJ
10th November 2024, 02:45
Charles Flynn Resigns, The Writing Is On The Wall
After 3 years Michael Flynns brother just resigned from the top job as commanding officer United States Army Pacific (USARPAC).
Quote from the article " Flynn took command of the U.S. Army’s largest service component command in June 2021. He is retiring after 39 years of service. "
Link: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/11/09/new-general-assumes-command-us-army-pacific/
Link: https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1855045240538730870
BMJ
7th December 2024, 03:41
PAYtriot - Kash Patel
It seems PAYtriot Cash Patel is front, centre and in the lime light right now as nominee for the FBI. If it's not the finger its the lights of broadway.
Here CNN Anderson Cooper has a 6 minute presentation on Cash in which he & his co-host are nice about Cash which is odd, I thought they would be calling him deranged, unhinged, a far right Qanon conspiracy theorist, hilter ... take your pick.
I like the way Anderson co-host outs Cash as a PAYtriot by casually throwing in at the last 30 seconds that " it seems alot of the time that when Cash went on these shows it was to promote something or sell something ".
I wonder if the white hats scripted this I don't know, anyway we will see you at the FBI closing ceremony Cash.
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Oh Cash What Have You Done ???
Good old Cash in this instance "screwed the pooch" for the operators in legendary fashion, see below.
How Kash Patel Bungled a SEAL Team Six Hostage Rescue
YEARS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP NAMED HIM TO RUN THE FBI, Kash Patel was a prosecutor in the Obama Justice Department assigned to work with Delta Force and SEAL Team Six.
He told Vanity Fair that his job was to advise the elite operators as they went after “the global rack and stack of bad guys, determined the order, established find/fix/finish options, and then executed.”
A self-described “deep state” wrecking ball, Patel is fond of saying things like this that have made him a favorite of Trump’s MAGA base. However, during the first Trump administration, Patel’s actions revealed him as a bombastic fool who put SEAL Team Six in harm’s way through his ineptitude.
On October 30, 2020, President Trump signed off on a mission to have SEAL Team Six rescue Philip Walton, a 27-year-old American who gunmen had abducted from his farm in the West African nation of Niger, near the border with Nigeria. The kidnappers had hustled Walton across the border to Nigeria and were demanding a $1 million ransom.
In their book Only I Can Fix It, journalists Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reported that the plan called for the SEALs to parachute into northern Nigeria and move three miles on foot to reach the compound where Walton was being held.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had signed off on the plan with one or two questions: Did we have permission to fly over Nigeria?
Patel, then the senior director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council, assured the Pentagon that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “got the airspace cleared.”
A few hours later, the Pentagon learned that Patel was wrong: Nigeria had not given permission.
This was a huge mistake. By that point, the aircraft carrying the SEALs were only fifteen miles away from the Nigerian border.
The Air Force planes were swiftly rerouted, circling the skies for an hour while State Department officials worked frantically to obtain clearances to cross the border.
As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
With time ticking away, Esper got on the phone with the White House to decide whether to send the SEALs into foreign airspace without prior authorization or abort the mission and risk losing the hostage. Suddenly, the Situation Room broke into the call. The State Department had come through. “The overflight rights we requested were approved.”
Esper gave the mission the green light, although he worried the delay could be costly. “I was concerned that being packed in an aircraft burning holes in the sky for an extra hour or so would wear on the special operators, that it might affect their readiness somehow,” he wrote. “Putting them through that uncertainty and additional wait was unfair, and it was a failure on our part in D.C. to get it right the first time.”
He needn’t have worried. Walton was successfully rescued on October 31; six of the seven captors were killed, and none of the SEALs were injured.
But the Pentagon was still furious at Patel. Tony Tata, the Pentagon official to whom Patel had given the green light, confronted Patel in a rage.
“You could’ve gotten these guys killed!” Tata shouted at Patel, according to a report in The Atlantic. “What the **** were you thinking?”
Patel’s response was: “If nobody got hurt, who the **** cares?”
Is this the kind of person we want running the FBI? ###
Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/how-kash-patel-bungled-a-seal-team
Ratszinger
7th December 2024, 08:08
PAYtriot - Kash Patel
It seems PAYtriot Cash Patel is front, centre and in the lime light right now as nominee for the FBI. If it's not the finger its the lights of broadway.
Here CNN Anderson Cooper has a 6 minute presentation on Cash in which he & his co-host are nice about Cash which is odd, I thought they would be calling him deranged, unhinged, a far right Qanon conspiracy theorist, hilter ... take your pick.
I like the way Anderson co-host outs Cash as a PAYtriot by casually throwing in at the last 30 seconds that " it seems alot of the time that when Cash went on these shows it was to promote something or sell something ".
I wonder if the white hats scripted this I don't know, anyway we will see you at the FBI closing ceremony Cash.
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Oh Cash What Have You Done ???
Good old Cash "screwed the pooch" for the operators in legendary fashion in this instance, see below.
How Kash Patel Bungled a SEAL Team Six Hostage Rescue
YEARS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP NAMED HIM TO RUN THE FBI, Kash Patel was a prosecutor in the Obama Justice Department assigned to work with Delta Force and SEAL Team Six.
He told Vanity Fair that his job was to advise the elite operators as they went after “the global rack and stack of bad guys, determined the order, established find/fix/finish options, and then executed.”
A self-described “deep state” wrecking ball, Patel is fond of saying things like this that have made him a favorite of Trump’s MAGA base. However, during the first Trump administration, Patel’s actions revealed him as a bombastic fool who put SEAL Team Six in harm’s way through his ineptitude.
On October 30, 2020, President Trump signed off on a mission to have SEAL Team Six rescue Philip Walton, a 27-year-old American who gunmen had abducted from his farm in the West African nation of Niger, near the border with Nigeria. The kidnappers had hustled Walton across the border to Nigeria and were demanding a $1 million ransom.
In their book Only I Can Fix It, journalists Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reported that the plan called for the SEALs to parachute into northern Nigeria and move three miles on foot to reach the compound where Walton was being held.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had signed off on the plan with one or two questions: Did we have permission to fly over Nigeria?
Patel, then the senior director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council, assured the Pentagon that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “got the airspace cleared.”
A few hours later, the Pentagon learned that Patel was wrong: Nigeria had not given permission.
This was a huge mistake. By that point, the aircraft carrying the SEALs were only fifteen miles away from the Nigerian border.
The Air Force planes were swiftly rerouted, circling the skies for an hour while State Department officials worked frantically to obtain clearances to cross the border.
As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
With time ticking away, Esper got on the phone with the White House to decide whether to send the SEALs into foreign airspace without prior authorization or abort the mission and risk losing the hostage. Suddenly, the Situation Room broke into the call. The State Department had come through. “The overflight rights we requested were approved.”
Esper gave the mission the green light, although he worried the delay could be costly. “I was concerned that being packed in an aircraft burning holes in the sky for an extra hour or so would wear on the special operators, that it might affect their readiness somehow,” he wrote. “Putting them through that uncertainty and additional wait was unfair, and it was a failure on our part in D.C. to get it right the first time.”
He needn’t have worried. Walton was successfully rescued on October 31; six of the seven captors were killed, and none of the SEALs were injured.
But the Pentagon was still furious at Patel. Tony Tata, the Pentagon official to whom Patel had given the green light, confronted Patel in a rage.
“You could’ve gotten these guys killed!” Tata shouted at Patel, according to a report in The Atlantic. “What the **** were you thinking?”
Patel’s response was: “If nobody got hurt, who the **** cares?”
Is this the kind of person we want running the FBI? ###
Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/how-kash-patel-bungled-a-seal-team
This sounds like to me Pompeo made a serious mistake and didn't do what was thought of him how do you blame Kash here? It seems clear to me the ball was dropped by Mike not Kash.
BMJ
8th December 2024, 03:05
PAYtriot - Kash Patel
It seems PAYtriot Cash Patel is front, centre and in the lime light right now as nominee for the FBI. If it's not the finger its the lights of broadway.
Here CNN Anderson Cooper has a 6 minute presentation on Cash in which he & his co-host are nice about Cash which is odd, I thought they would be calling him deranged, unhinged, a far right Qanon conspiracy theorist, hilter ... take your pick.
I like the way Anderson co-host outs Cash as a PAYtriot by casually throwing in at the last 30 seconds that " it seems alot of the time that when Cash went on these shows it was to promote something or sell something ".
I wonder if the white hats scripted this I don't know, anyway we will see you at the FBI closing ceremony Cash.
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Oh Cash What Have You Done ???
Good old Cash "screwed the pooch" for the operators in legendary fashion in this instance, see below.
How Kash Patel Bungled a SEAL Team Six Hostage Rescue
YEARS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP NAMED HIM TO RUN THE FBI, Kash Patel was a prosecutor in the Obama Justice Department assigned to work with Delta Force and SEAL Team Six.
He told Vanity Fair that his job was to advise the elite operators as they went after “the global rack and stack of bad guys, determined the order, established find/fix/finish options, and then executed.”
A self-described “deep state” wrecking ball, Patel is fond of saying things like this that have made him a favorite of Trump’s MAGA base. However, during the first Trump administration, Patel’s actions revealed him as a bombastic fool who put SEAL Team Six in harm’s way through his ineptitude.
On October 30, 2020, President Trump signed off on a mission to have SEAL Team Six rescue Philip Walton, a 27-year-old American who gunmen had abducted from his farm in the West African nation of Niger, near the border with Nigeria. The kidnappers had hustled Walton across the border to Nigeria and were demanding a $1 million ransom.
In their book Only I Can Fix It, journalists Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reported that the plan called for the SEALs to parachute into northern Nigeria and move three miles on foot to reach the compound where Walton was being held.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had signed off on the plan with one or two questions: Did we have permission to fly over Nigeria?
Patel, then the senior director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council, assured the Pentagon that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “got the airspace cleared.”
A few hours later, the Pentagon learned that Patel was wrong: Nigeria had not given permission.
This was a huge mistake. By that point, the aircraft carrying the SEALs were only fifteen miles away from the Nigerian border.
The Air Force planes were swiftly rerouted, circling the skies for an hour while State Department officials worked frantically to obtain clearances to cross the border.
As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
With time ticking away, Esper got on the phone with the White House to decide whether to send the SEALs into foreign airspace without prior authorization or abort the mission and risk losing the hostage. Suddenly, the Situation Room broke into the call. The State Department had come through. “The overflight rights we requested were approved.”
Esper gave the mission the green light, although he worried the delay could be costly. “I was concerned that being packed in an aircraft burning holes in the sky for an extra hour or so would wear on the special operators, that it might affect their readiness somehow,” he wrote. “Putting them through that uncertainty and additional wait was unfair, and it was a failure on our part in D.C. to get it right the first time.”
He needn’t have worried. Walton was successfully rescued on October 31; six of the seven captors were killed, and none of the SEALs were injured.
But the Pentagon was still furious at Patel. Tony Tata, the Pentagon official to whom Patel had given the green light, confronted Patel in a rage.
“You could’ve gotten these guys killed!” Tata shouted at Patel, according to a report in The Atlantic. “What the **** were you thinking?”
Patel’s response was: “If nobody got hurt, who the **** cares?”
Is this the kind of person we want running the FBI? ###
Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/how-kash-patel-bungled-a-seal-team
This sounds like to me Pompeo made a serious mistake and didn't do what was thought of him how do you blame Kash here? It seems clear to me the ball was dropped by Mike not Kash.
It's clear stated in the article how did you miss it Ratzinger?
Cash cleared the go ahead for this operation claiming he had confirmed clearance from Pompeo when he didn't. He didn't even bother to check and in his capacity in this role thats negligence.
Quote:
" As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
BMJ
10th December 2024, 22:21
PAYtriot - Kash Patel
It seems PAYtriot Cash Patel is front, centre and in the lime light right now as nominee for the FBI. If it's not the finger its the lights of broadway.
Here CNN Anderson Cooper has a 6 minute presentation on Cash in which he & his co-host are nice about Cash which is odd, I thought they would be calling him deranged, unhinged, a far right Qanon conspiracy theorist, hilter ... take your pick.
I like the way Anderson co-host outs Cash as a PAYtriot by casually throwing in at the last 30 seconds that " it seems alot of the time that when Cash went on these shows it was to promote something or sell something ".
I wonder if the white hats scripted this I don't know, anyway we will see you at the FBI closing ceremony Cash.
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Oh Cash What Have You Done ???
Good old Cash "screwed the pooch" for the operators in legendary fashion in this instance, see below.
How Kash Patel Bungled a SEAL Team Six Hostage Rescue
YEARS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP NAMED HIM TO RUN THE FBI, Kash Patel was a prosecutor in the Obama Justice Department assigned to work with Delta Force and SEAL Team Six.
He told Vanity Fair that his job was to advise the elite operators as they went after “the global rack and stack of bad guys, determined the order, established find/fix/finish options, and then executed.”
A self-described “deep state” wrecking ball, Patel is fond of saying things like this that have made him a favorite of Trump’s MAGA base. However, during the first Trump administration, Patel’s actions revealed him as a bombastic fool who put SEAL Team Six in harm’s way through his ineptitude.
On October 30, 2020, President Trump signed off on a mission to have SEAL Team Six rescue Philip Walton, a 27-year-old American who gunmen had abducted from his farm in the West African nation of Niger, near the border with Nigeria. The kidnappers had hustled Walton across the border to Nigeria and were demanding a $1 million ransom.
In their book Only I Can Fix It, journalists Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reported that the plan called for the SEALs to parachute into northern Nigeria and move three miles on foot to reach the compound where Walton was being held.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had signed off on the plan with one or two questions: Did we have permission to fly over Nigeria?
Patel, then the senior director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council, assured the Pentagon that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “got the airspace cleared.”
A few hours later, the Pentagon learned that Patel was wrong: Nigeria had not given permission.
This was a huge mistake. By that point, the aircraft carrying the SEALs were only fifteen miles away from the Nigerian border.
The Air Force planes were swiftly rerouted, circling the skies for an hour while State Department officials worked frantically to obtain clearances to cross the border.
As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
With time ticking away, Esper got on the phone with the White House to decide whether to send the SEALs into foreign airspace without prior authorization or abort the mission and risk losing the hostage. Suddenly, the Situation Room broke into the call. The State Department had come through. “The overflight rights we requested were approved.”
Esper gave the mission the green light, although he worried the delay could be costly. “I was concerned that being packed in an aircraft burning holes in the sky for an extra hour or so would wear on the special operators, that it might affect their readiness somehow,” he wrote. “Putting them through that uncertainty and additional wait was unfair, and it was a failure on our part in D.C. to get it right the first time.”
He needn’t have worried. Walton was successfully rescued on October 31; six of the seven captors were killed, and none of the SEALs were injured.
But the Pentagon was still furious at Patel. Tony Tata, the Pentagon official to whom Patel had given the green light, confronted Patel in a rage.
“You could’ve gotten these guys killed!” Tata shouted at Patel, according to a report in The Atlantic. “What the **** were you thinking?”
Patel’s response was: “If nobody got hurt, who the **** cares?”
Is this the kind of person we want running the FBI? ###
Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/how-kash-patel-bungled-a-seal-team
President Trump " maybe they worked together on the russia hoax or something ... "
Could Donald Trump Be Putting Kash Patel in the Spotlight?!
When asked about Kash Patel, Donald Trump highlighted how Trey Gowdy is a big supporter of him.
“Trey Gowdy, who’s a moderate person ….and, very respected in the Party, he’s Kash’ biggest fan”.
When Donald Trump says Trey Gowdy is very respected by Conservatives, he's talking about the Neocons. Gowdy is one of the least respected Fox News pundits by MAGA supporters; he's been wrong many, many times, and is not a credible source. A big endorsement from Gowdy suggests that Kash Patel is not a far-right political figure.
In addition to endorsing Kash, Trey Gowdy states that Kash Patel is the most misunderstood person in politics. By his assessment, he asserts that Kash is misunderstood by the majority of conservatives.
If Kash Patel isn't a MAGA loyalist dedicated to exposing the corruption in Washington, as many conservatives believe, then he is a phony and most likely a Deep State operative.
This would explain why Trey Gowdy, a Neocon sellout, thinks highly of K. Patel.
Donald Trump is putting his enemies in the spotlight. The question is, who are Kash Patel's handlers?
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mountain_jim
11th December 2024, 15:09
https://x.com/SunTzusWar/status/1866695265673154907
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Great night for Americans and @GenFlynn 🇺🇸
— Sun Tzu (@SunTzusWar) December 11, 2024
DrfMnMTL
@DrfmnMtl
If you've seen some Anons posting about Flynn in a negative manner... watch this and ask yourself a very simple question...
...why is Flynn in Mar A Lago with Trump?
And then ask yourself, why would these Anons go against Trump and the Q drops?
AGAIN = Why would these Anons go against Trump and the Q drops??
"Be careful who you follow"
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@SunTzusWar
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https://x.com/AwakenedOutlaw/status/1866647321842422259
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AwakenedOutlaw⚒️
@AwakenedOutlaw
So, it turns out that Trump did drop in to speak at the @Amerifuture gala event tonight at Mar-A-Lago.
What's weird is that some have been working overtime trying to convince everyone that this wasn't going to happen.
The truth is that it only takes a few minutes to watch this clip to confirm, yet again, that 1) Gen Flynn supports Trump, and 2) Trump supports Gen Flynn.
This isn't hard to grasp, or at least it shouldn't be.
And if you can't see it then you're either retarded or successfully misled by people paid to try and convince you otherwise.
Now, can we drop the stupid **** already and move on to just supporting Trump and his upcoming Administration?
Good talk.
https://x.com/DrfmnMtl/status/1866779328119468364
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@KAGdrogo
🔥General Flynn just spotlighted a thread implicating Israel and the deep state of the U.S. (Israel) for being behind ISIS, AIQaida and the regime change in Syria.
It even mentions “Greater Israel.”
I keep saying this but THEY KNOW.
This is very encouraging to see from him.
Thank you
@GenFlynn
for speaking out.
General Mike Flynn
@GenFlynn
A MUST READ THREAD (exceptional analysis and reporting—really well done).
So what? Be careful what you ask for.
“Want to know Syria's future? Look at Idlib -- the province under "rebels" control.”
mountain_jim
11th December 2024, 15:52
https://x.com/Tinktweets45/status/1866838360033268039
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BurningBright
@reBurningBright
How would one describe the feeling wherein the people who called you and your friends Mossad for a year before going all in on the anti-@GenFlynn Op are forced to watch Trump introduce him as a guest of honor at Mar-a-Lago circa December 2024?
Because I'm currently awash in it.
https://x.com/WillsWill1776/status/1866665554515251370
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Will
@WillsWill1776
Ezra Cohen just re-tweeted this.
Watch the clowns go after him too now..
https://x.com/JustAPatGuy/status/1866841627312132519
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𝙰𝚊𝚗𝚘𝚗
@AAnon55
Four very important points.
1) James Comey admitted to setting up General Flynn.
2) Trump said General Flynn didn't do anything wrong.
3) Obama told Trump he didn't Trust General Flynn.
4) Q said "Flynn is safe. We protect our Patriots".
Just wanted to remind y'all. 👊
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BMJ
14th December 2024, 04:54
https://x.com/SunTzusWar/status/1866695265673154907
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Great night for Americans and @GenFlynn 🇺🇸
— Sun Tzu (@SunTzusWar) December 11, 2024
Damage Control & Grasping At Straws
Firstly, to clarify the damage control that flynn is try to mitigate is Ariel posts on X.
I watched the six minute video in its entirety and this is my take on it and the event .
People may think that by being in the same room as President Trump and people he associates with means by extension President Trump supports that person in this case flynn.
If you notice President Trumps (DJT) seems to have some nice things to say about flynn well look at at what DJT have to say about Trey Gowdy in post 598, why does DJT do this. The reason is to deprive MSM of any ammunition so they can't attack him.
Look at the body language of DJT facing away from flynn with pursed lips and paper in hand what does that tell you.
Pursed lips - Pursed lips can show tension, frustration, anger, concealment, contemplation, or disapproval.
Link: https://bodylanguageinfo.com/pursed-lips-in-body-language/
Facing away - DJT simply doesn't even face flynn he is faced away from flynn at all times meaning quote "When you see people turn their shoulders and torso away from you, you’ve probably lost their interest this is disengaged body language.
Link:https://www.amanet.org/articles/the-body-language-of-disengagement-from-head-to-toes/
Paper in hand - it is instrument to block any attempts by flynn to go in for the hand shake, if he trys DJT simply holds the sheet of paper with both hands to bloke the try.
Flynn tried to go in for the photo opportunity by patting DJT on the back that'll make a good photo for the fans and prove he is in the inner circle for some.
As Eric Trump said "he (DJT) ain't picking up the phone for you (flynn) and never has DJT attended a flynn rally and as Dan Scavino has said more recently "we don't want traitors in our midst so go away ".
So the only way flynn could find a way of having him perceived to be in DJT inner circle is by hosting an event at DJTs Mar-A-Lago Resort and paying for it. Correction the event being paid for by the nonprofit organisation that flynn is a chair of Americas Future.
Which was in turn paid for by the attendees, here the price list:
- $3,800 for the VIP poolside reception
- $5,000 for the VIP exclusive poolside reception or
- $15,000 for the private exclusive once in a lifetime experience with Mick Flynn &
Look at when Kid rock enters the room arms crossed tightly across his chest he is ensuring that flynn can't go in for the hand shake. Look at his face does he seems to be happy to be there.
At the pre event photo shoot Mel Gibson turned up in flip flops, board short and polo shirt so Mel isn't taking the event seriously and Kid Rock just doesn't want to be there whilst flynn turns up dressed for a black tie event.
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All the flynn supporters hail this event as proof President Trump supports flynn.
Well the truth is flynn had to pay to have access to President Trump and stage this event is such a way that it would be rude not to attend for President Trump, Kid Rock & Mel Gibson and so on.
But the reality nobody wanted to be their except for flynn.
The event reminds me of one of those birthday parties you had when you were a kid, you got invited via mail to some kids birthday party, lets call him flynn, that you didn't like.
Flynn was smart enough to get his mum to send out the invitations via mail to ensure your parents got it and thereby roping you into going to the party.
Then even thou you protest and don't want to go you get forced into it because your mum says you have to go "because it the nice thing to do".
Then your there having to pretend you are having a good time when you and your other friends are not.
Then as soon as the cake is cut and have done your part you and your friends all make excuses to leave and plan to go down to the creek to skim some stones and reflect on the party or grab your bikes and cruise the neighbourhood until dusk or play some basketball at the park. But nobody invites or tells flynn.
This event is kind of like that.
On another note, Flynn like Stone may have been pardoned which I think is great because it means they can talk freely in court if required to without having to plead the 5th.
But neither were invited to President Trumps 2024 thanks giving celebration unlike Sly who was invited I have included some pictures below of Sly and President Trump look at compare to what you see in the video.
" But, but Flynn is a patriot Q said so " the true believers scream and what did Q say about Wray, and I know what I see without the need for the narrative of the flynn supporters.
What has been said before about Q that is it has truths and half truths, coding referring to gematria and The Law OF War Manual and so on.
What I know for certain is that Q, the military, white hats and us are at war against these deep state/satanists and like in any war your not going to give the game away and give your enemy any advantage and neither is Q. So don't take everything you read from Q on face value.
Finally, my condolence to President Trump, Kid, Tucker & Mel as it seems this was a somber event and im sure happiness was laid to rest during this event.
To MountainJim thanks for the opportunity to deconstruct the flynn network facade, it's been a blast.
BMJ
14th December 2024, 05:25
PAYtriotism - The Price We Pay
In 2021, retired Gen. Michael T. Flynn, Donald J. Trump’s first national security adviser, became chairman of a 75-year-old nonprofit organization — the kind of small charity where chairmen typically work for free.
But Mr. Flynn received a salary of $40,000, for working two hours per week. (2021)
The next year, he got a raise: $60,000, for two hours. (2022)
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/23/us/politics/donald-trump-michael-flynn-qanon.html
Keeping it all in the family
Tax documents reviewed by Issue One show that America’s Future raised a combined $3.7 million in 2021 and 2022 but spent roughly $4.4 million during the same time. That is to say, under the leadership of the Flynn family, America’s Future has spent roughly 20% more than it’s raised.
Of its spending during this two-year period, about 30% — and roughly 43% in 2022 — has gone toward salaries, compensation, and other benefits for its leaders and staff.
Money Flows to Flynn Family
Tax filings show America’s Future paid members of the Flynn family more than $510,000 combined in 2021 and 2022.
- Mary O’Neill was paid $200,300 during this period, including $148,300 in 2022.
- Michael Flynn was paid $100,000 during this period, including $60,000 in 2022 for an average of two hours per week of work — the equivalent of about $575 per hour.
- Joe Flynn was paid $85,000 during this period, including $35,000 in 2022 for an average of two hours per week of work — the equivalent of about $335 per hour.
- And Flynn Consulting LLC — a company whose registered agent is Flynn’s sister Clare Eckert — was paid $128,200 in 2022 for “public relations” work, ranking the company as America’s Future’s top contractor.
Link: https://issueone.org/articles/americas-future-flynn-990/
Link: https://www.americasfuture.net/leadership/
BMJ
26th December 2024, 04:38
" But, but Flynn is a patriot Q said so " the true believers scream and what did Q say about Wray, and I know what I see without the need for the narrative of the flynn supporters.
What has been said before about Q that is it has truths and half truths, coding referring to gematria and The Law OF War Manual and so on.
What I know for certain is that Q, the military, white hats and us are at war against these deep state/satanists and like in any war your not going to give the game away and give your enemy any advantage and neither is Q. So don't take everything you read from Q on face value.
Trust Wray !!!
Q states this three separate times in posts 433, 787, 1122, and Q and the white hat's are never going to give the game away.
I also say " Trust Patel ".
As we know the FBI head office the J Edgar Hoover building in Washington DC is closed so where is the FBI and what will Patel be the head of if anything.
Link: https://qanon.pub/?q=TRUST%20WRAY
The resignation of Christopher Wray is a great day for America as it will end the Weaponization of what has become known as the United States Department of Injustice. I just don’t know what happened to him. We will now restore the Rule of Law for all Americans. Under the leadership of Christopher Wray, the FBI illegally raided my home, without cause, worked diligently on illegally impeaching and indicting me, and has done everything else to interfere with the success and future of America. They have used their vast powers to threaten and destroy many innocent Americans, some of which will never be able to recover from what has been done to them. Kash Patel is the most qualified Nominee to lead the FBI in the Agency’s History, and is committed to helping ensure that Law, Order, and Justice will be brought back to our Country again, and soon. As everyone knows, I have great respect for the rank-and-file of the FBI, and they have great respect for me. They want to see these changes every bit as much as I do but, more importantly, the American People are demanding a strong, but fair, System of Justice. We want our FBI back, and that will now happen. I look forward to Kash Patel’s confirmation, so that the process of Making the FBI Great Again can begin. Thank you!
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BMJ
31st December 2024, 03:22
https://x.com/SunTzusWar/status/1866695265673154907
1866695265673154907
Great night for Americans and @GenFlynn 🇺🇸
— Sun Tzu (@SunTzusWar) December 11, 2024
Damage Control & Grasping At Straws
Firstly, to clarify the damage control that flynn is try to mitigate is Ariel posts on X.
I watched the six minute video in its entirety and this is my take on it and the event .
People may think that by being in the same room as President Trump and people he associates with means by extension President Trump supports that person in this case flynn.
If you notice President Trumps (DJT) seems to have some nice things to say about flynn well look at at what DJT have to say about Trey Gowdy in post 598, why does DJT do this. The reason is to deprive MSM of any ammunition so they can't attack him.
Look at the body language of DJT facing away from flynn with pursed lips and paper in hand what does that tell you.
Pursed lips - Pursed lips can show tension, frustration, anger, concealment, contemplation, or disapproval.
Link: https://bodylanguageinfo.com/pursed-lips-in-body-language/
Facing away - DJT simply doesn't even face flynn he is faced away from flynn at all times meaning quote "When you see people turn their shoulders and torso away from you, you’ve probably lost their interest this is disengaged body language.
Link:https://www.amanet.org/articles/the-body-language-of-disengagement-from-head-to-toes/
Paper in hand - it is instrument to block any attempts by flynn to go in for the hand shake, if he trys DJT simply holds the sheet of paper with both hands to bloke the try.
Flynn tried to go in for the photo opportunity by patting DJT on the back that'll make a good photo for the fans and prove he is in the inner circle for some.
As Eric Trump said "he (DJT) ain't picking up the phone for you (flynn) and never has DJT attended a flynn rally and as Dan Scavino has said more recently "we don't want traitors in our midst so go away ".
So the only way flynn could find a way of having him perceived to be in DJT inner circle is by hosting an event at DJTs Mar-A-Lago Resort and paying for it. Correction the event being paid for by the nonprofit organisation that flynn is a chair of Americas Future.
Which was in turn paid for by the attendees, here the price list:
- $3,800 for the VIP poolside reception
- $5,000 for the VIP exclusive poolside reception or
- $15,000 for the private exclusive once in a lifetime experience with Mick Flynn &
Look at when Kid rock enters the room arms crossed tightly across his chest he is ensuring that flynn can't go in for the hand shake. Look at his face does he seems to be happy to be there.
At the pre event photo shoot Mel Gibson turned up in flip flops, board short and polo shirt so Mel isn't taking the event seriously and Kid Rock just doesn't want to be there whilst flynn turns up dressed for a black tie event.
1866675943474860440
All the flynn supporters hail this event as proof President Trump supports flynn.
Well the truth is flynn had to pay to have access to President Trump and stage this event is such a way that it would be rude not to attend for President Trump, Kid Rock & Mel Gibson and so on.
But the reality nobody wanted to be their except for flynn.
The event reminds me of one of those birthday parties you had when you were a kid, you got invited via mail to some kids birthday party, lets call him flynn, that you didn't like.
Flynn was smart enough to get his mum to send out the invitations via mail to ensure your parents got it and thereby roping you into going to the party.
Then even thou you protest and don't want to go you get forced into it because your mum says you have to go "because it the nice thing to do".
Then your there having to pretend you are having a good time when you and your other friends are not.
Then as soon as the cake is cut and have done your part you and your friends all make excuses to leave and plan to go down to the creek to skim some stones and reflect on the party or grab your bikes and cruise the neighbourhood until dusk or play some basketball at the park. But nobody invites or tells flynn.
This event is kind of like that.
On another note, Flynn like Stone may have been pardoned which I think is great because it means they can talk freely in court if required to without having to plead the 5th.
But neither were invited to President Trumps 2024 thanks giving celebration unlike Sly who was invited I have included some pictures below of Sly and President Trump look at compare to what you see in the video.
" But, but Flynn is a patriot Q said so " the true believers scream and what did Q say about Wray, and I know what I see without the need for the narrative of the flynn supporters.
What has been said before about Q that is it has truths and half truths, coding referring to gematria and The Law OF War Manual and so on.
What I know for certain is that Q, the military, white hats and us are at war against these deep state/satanists and like in any war your not going to give the game away and give your enemy any advantage and neither is Q. So don't take everything you read from Q on face value.
Finally, my condolence to President Trump, Kid, Tucker & Mel as it seems this was a somber event and im sure happiness was laid to rest during this event.
To MountainJim thanks for the opportunity to deconstruct the flynn network facade, it's been a blast.
I don't see any flynns do you ???
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Discussing the flynns !!!
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Yep it looks like they missed out on the new years eve party !!!
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BMJ
3rd January 2025, 02:55
So The Cat Is Out Of The Bag
Why would Donald Trump burner account bring this up off the heels of the so called Muslim "Terrorist Attacks"?
Who used to be stationed at Fort Bragg? Michael Flynn.
What used to take place at Fort Bragg? MK Ultra programming.
Who replied to Elon Musk post about having MK Ultra for life? Michael Flynn.
Who was the Satanist military General who worked at Fort Bragg that taught M. Flynn? Michael Aquino.
This post is basically hinting at the possibility of these men being subject to MK Ultra sleeper cell projects at Fort Bragg.
Do you all see where this is going? 😉
https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1874857007167254937
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Ratszinger
14th January 2025, 05:37
https://kimosboel.substack.com/p/europa-the-last-battle-part-1111
not sure how to embed this (https://kimosboel.substack.com/p/europa-the-last-battle-part-1111)
Well worth watching though!
norman
14th January 2025, 06:40
il Donaldo Trumpo
@PapiTrumpo
MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK INTO FORT BRAGG!!! (https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1874854674802880594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1874858766975513080%7Ctwgr% 5Ea6382c7174272fa7c308a8631d645e2a04f93e5b%7Ctwcon%5Es4_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fprojectavalon.net%2Fforum4%2Fshowthread.php%3F104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister)
AND AREA 51
We've been psyop'ed all to hell and back about everything. We the Brits have been psyop'ed about what's been really going on at Porton Down bioweapons research facility for many decades. They ran a brilliant psyop' convincing us and locking down our perceptions that they were doing virus research but were they, really ? 5'll getcha 10 they were doing venom toxin research.
So, what have they been telling us Area 51 does ?
What does Area 51 really do ?
And most importantly, under who's command does it do it ?
In my own case at least, I've always been under the impression that Area 51 is not a part of the US military but something excursively under a secretive MJ12 type of admin. After everything we've come to understand about secretive groups of power players in the world, what's the chances that Area 51 is the beehive we are looking for, at least within the United States.
Eisenhower almost attacked Area 51 with the army but got told a pile of lies enough to persuade him to back down. Perhaps it's now time to ignore the piles of lies and just DO IT. Raid the bloody place and bust it, once and for all.
BMJ
21st January 2025, 02:29
PAYtriot - Kash Patel
It seems PAYtriot Cash Patel is front, centre and in the lime light right now as nominee for the FBI. If it's not the finger its the lights of broadway.
Here CNN Anderson Cooper has a 6 minute presentation on Cash in which he & his co-host are nice about Cash which is odd, I thought they would be calling him deranged, unhinged, a far right Qanon conspiracy theorist, hilter ... take your pick.
I like the way Anderson co-host outs Cash as a PAYtriot by casually throwing in at the last 30 seconds that " it seems alot of the time that when Cash went on these shows it was to promote something or sell something ".
I wonder if the white hats scripted this I don't know, anyway we will see you at the FBI closing ceremony Cash.
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Oh Cash What Have You Done ???
Good old Cash "screwed the pooch" for the operators in legendary fashion in this instance, see below.
How Kash Patel Bungled a SEAL Team Six Hostage Rescue
YEARS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP NAMED HIM TO RUN THE FBI, Kash Patel was a prosecutor in the Obama Justice Department assigned to work with Delta Force and SEAL Team Six.
He told Vanity Fair that his job was to advise the elite operators as they went after “the global rack and stack of bad guys, determined the order, established find/fix/finish options, and then executed.”
A self-described “deep state” wrecking ball, Patel is fond of saying things like this that have made him a favorite of Trump’s MAGA base. However, during the first Trump administration, Patel’s actions revealed him as a bombastic fool who put SEAL Team Six in harm’s way through his ineptitude.
On October 30, 2020, President Trump signed off on a mission to have SEAL Team Six rescue Philip Walton, a 27-year-old American who gunmen had abducted from his farm in the West African nation of Niger, near the border with Nigeria. The kidnappers had hustled Walton across the border to Nigeria and were demanding a $1 million ransom.
In their book Only I Can Fix It, journalists Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reported that the plan called for the SEALs to parachute into northern Nigeria and move three miles on foot to reach the compound where Walton was being held.
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had signed off on the plan with one or two questions: Did we have permission to fly over Nigeria?
Patel, then the senior director for counterterrorism on the National Security Council, assured the Pentagon that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “got the airspace cleared.”
A few hours later, the Pentagon learned that Patel was wrong: Nigeria had not given permission.
This was a huge mistake. By that point, the aircraft carrying the SEALs were only fifteen miles away from the Nigerian border.
The Air Force planes were swiftly rerouted, circling the skies for an hour while State Department officials worked frantically to obtain clearances to cross the border.
As Esper recalled in his memoir, A Sacred Oath, “By the time Mike [Pompeo] and I spoke an hour later, he still didn’t have the okay from the remaining country. He also didn’t know where Patel received his information. Pompeo never spoke with him.”
“How did we receive the bad information in the first place?” Pompeo wondered.
Esper said his team “suspected Patel made the approval story up, but they didn’t have all the facts.”
With time ticking away, Esper got on the phone with the White House to decide whether to send the SEALs into foreign airspace without prior authorization or abort the mission and risk losing the hostage. Suddenly, the Situation Room broke into the call. The State Department had come through. “The overflight rights we requested were approved.”
Esper gave the mission the green light, although he worried the delay could be costly. “I was concerned that being packed in an aircraft burning holes in the sky for an extra hour or so would wear on the special operators, that it might affect their readiness somehow,” he wrote. “Putting them through that uncertainty and additional wait was unfair, and it was a failure on our part in D.C. to get it right the first time.”
He needn’t have worried. Walton was successfully rescued on October 31; six of the seven captors were killed, and none of the SEALs were injured.
But the Pentagon was still furious at Patel. Tony Tata, the Pentagon official to whom Patel had given the green light, confronted Patel in a rage.
“You could’ve gotten these guys killed!” Tata shouted at Patel, according to a report in The Atlantic. “What the **** were you thinking?”
Patel’s response was: “If nobody got hurt, who the **** cares?”
Is this the kind of person we want running the FBI? ###
Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/how-kash-patel-bungled-a-seal-team
President Trump " maybe they worked together on the russia hoax or something ... "
Could Donald Trump Be Putting Kash Patel in the Spotlight?!
When asked about Kash Patel, Donald Trump highlighted how Trey Gowdy is a big supporter of him.
“Trey Gowdy, who’s a moderate person ….and, very respected in the Party, he’s Kash’ biggest fan”.
When Donald Trump says Trey Gowdy is very respected by Conservatives, he's talking about the Neocons. Gowdy is one of the least respected Fox News pundits by MAGA supporters; he's been wrong many, many times, and is not a credible source. A big endorsement from Gowdy suggests that Kash Patel is not a far-right political figure.
In addition to endorsing Kash, Trey Gowdy states that Kash Patel is the most misunderstood person in politics. By his assessment, he asserts that Kash is misunderstood by the majority of conservatives.
If Kash Patel isn't a MAGA loyalist dedicated to exposing the corruption in Washington, as many conservatives believe, then he is a phony and most likely a Deep State operative.
This would explain why Trey Gowdy, a Neocon sellout, thinks highly of K. Patel.
Donald Trump is putting his enemies in the spotlight. The question is, who are Kash Patel's handlers?
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Well Well, Pete Hegesworth is a Christian Zionist, what does this make Kash ??? ( _ _ _ _ / Zionist )
Kash Patel Urges Americans to Prioritize Israel in Incoming FBI Role
WASHINGTON D.C (VINnews)-Kash Patel, who has been tapped as Trump’s choice for the next FBI director, recently made a statement calling for Americans to “wake up” and place a higher priority on supporting Israel. Patel emphasized the need for a strong partnership between the U.S. and Israel, stating that America’s security and global leadership depend on the nation’s commitment to its ally in the Middle East.
There is also a video at the link where he states this.
Link: https://vinnews.com/2024/12/01/kash-patel-urges-americans-to-prioritize-israel-in-incoming-fbi-role/
Note: I think the USA and world has " woken up " to the fact that Israel has domestic political influence way beyond it's means and significance in the world, and has been behind many nefarious events. Now how about dismantling AIPAC.
BMJ
15th March 2025, 01:24
What Is A Pay-triot: For Those Who Do Not Know The Difference
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Michael Flynn. He sold Q-related products like “WWG1WGA” gear at events in 2020 but blamed January 6th on Anons in a 2021 recording, calling QAnon “nonsense.” He led a public pledge but bashed Anons on X-22 in 2023, denouncing the movement, yet posts Pepe images in Elon Musk’s comments.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Marjorie Taylor Greene. She sold “Trust the Plan” T-shirts on her site in 2020, embracing QAnon, but claimed ignorance in a 2022 CNN interview, blaming followers for “misinformation.” She rallied with Q slogans but criticized Anons on X in 2023, while posting Pepe memes in Trump’s threads.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Alex Jones. He marketed “Patriot Blend” coffee to QAnon fans from 2017-2020 but mocked Q as a “distraction” on his show in 2018, blaming Anons for “fake intel.” He chanted “The Storm is Coming” at events but denounced diggers on X in 2021, yet engages with Pepe imagery in Musk’s posts.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Roger Stone. He sold QAnon-branded merchandise, like “Stop the Steal” hats in 2020, and spoke at Q events, but in a 2022 *Politico* interview, he called Q “a psyop” and blamed Anons for January 6th chaos. He rallied with “WWG1WGA” chants but criticized online diggers on X in 2023, yet posts Pepe images in Trump’s comments.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Sidney Powell. She sold “Release the Kraken” T-shirts and books in 2020, tying them to QAnon narratives, but in 2022, she distanced herself, claiming Q was “misinterpreted” in a court filing, blaming Anons for legal troubles. She led Q-inspired rallies but bashed diggers on X in 2023, while sharing Pepe memes in Musk’s threads.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Lin Wood. He marketed QAnon-related legal defense funds and merchandise in 2020, calling for “trust in the plan,” but in 2021, he denounced Q as “a distraction” on Telegram, blaming Anons for his legal woes. He rallied with Q slogans but criticized online researchers on X in 2023, yet posts Pepe imagery in Trump’s comments.
Do you need more examples?
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Jim Bakker. He marketed “doomsday food buckets” as investments against economic collapse from 2018-2020, tying them to QAnon and Christian prophecy, but faced lawsuits in 2021 for false health claims, per CNN. He blamed Anons and regulators for “persecuting patriots” on his show, while his financial schemes netted over $6 million, as reported by The New York Times. He shares patriotic memes on X but dismisses diggers revealing his past fraud convictions from the 1980s.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Kenneth Copeland. He sold “prophetic investment” schemes through his ministry in the 2000s, promising followers divine returns on donations, but faced IRS scrutiny in 2017 for misusing $1.5 million, per The Washington Post. He rallied supporters with “God’s financial plan” rhetoric but blamed critics for “attacking faith” on his TV show in 2020, while pocketing millions. He posts patriotic imagery on X but ignores Anons exposing his financial opacity, per his social media activity.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Peter Popoff. He sold “miracle spring water” as a financial blessing investment in the 2010s, promising wealth to donors, but was exposed in 2017 by The Atlantic for pocketing millions while donors went bankrupt. He blamed skeptics and Anons for “sabotaging miracles” on his TV appearances, while his schemes targeted patriotic and religious audiences. He posts Christian nationalist imagery on X but ignores researchers exposing his financial deceit, per his social media.
▪︎ To sum up, a Pay-triot is Robert Kiyosaki. He marketed “Rich Dad Poor Dad” seminars as patriotic investments in real estate and gold from 2010-2023, promising massive returns, but faced lawsuits in 2019 for misleading claims, per Forbes. He blamed Anons and critics for “attacking American dreams” on X, while his schemes earned him millions, as reported by The Guardian. He shares patriotic posts but dismisses diggers uncovering his financial controversies, per his social media activity.
Are we clear on what Pay-triot actually means now?
Let me know.
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From the comments.
Theresa Rosales @realTheresaRosa·12h
Ariel’s not saying because someone sells something of value they’re a “Paytriot”, he’s pointing out when someone uses “you” and your “beliefs” to sell something that they can make money off of, all the while thinking of you as a “stupid sucker”. Most of the time they’re making fun of you for your beliefs, yet trying to make you think they think the same way. They sucker anyone they think is too stupid to realize it!
ȺɾìҽӀ@Prolotario1·11h
This is precisely it. You never seen me attacking anyone who is selling honest products without all of the suspicions, fraud claims, and other lack of transparency issues that come with people who pretend to be what you hope they are in order for them to gain your support so they can make money off of bleeding hearts for justice.
The Pay-triots: To Top It Off
-Do you think these people will risk losing their platform to give you the type of info I present to you "For Free" while at the same time stabbing you in the back when you only supported them under the false pretense of them supporting your cause?
-Then they have the audacity to pull you into their scheme and you are stuck asking where did your money go or what did it actually finance if you assumed it was for some house repairs, starving children, or dying cancer patients that never saw the money.
-Not to mention the donation pages that are set up for people who are claiming they are saving children from trafficking overseas and that they need you to finance the tools, facility, operations, and other things at whatever link provided.
-Then these same people once you find out where the money is going pretend they have been transparent and you are just being a problem child because you are jealous of their popularity and want to be featured on T-shirts & Podcasts.
-Not to mention that once they are called out for being scammers their followers start trolling and harassing everyone who no longer once to support or listen to these charlatans anymore. And you are making up lies and just want views.
Additional Take
• Can you imagine these Pay-triots jeopardizing their polished platforms to share raw, unfiltered data like I do, only to secretly undermine you when you backed them, thinking they stood for your fight? Then they lure you into their shadowy investment traps, leaving you stunned, wondering if your funds vanished into offshore accounts or luxury vacations, not the noble causes they promised. I see it plainly: they exploit your loyalty, then discard it when their schemes unravel.
• Don’t overlook the flashy crowdfunding campaigns they launch, claiming to fund “patriotic tech” to combat global threats, urging you to donate via encrypted links they control. When you discover the money bankrolled their private islands or failed crypto ventures, they spin it as a “misunderstanding,” accusing you of envying their influence and craving their viral clout. From my vantage, their deflection is a calculated move to protect their empire, not serve the truth.
• And when you expose their fraud, their diehard fans unleash vicious attacks, flooding your inbox with hate, branding you a traitor for doubting their heroes, all for clicks. They shield these con artists with blind devotion, ignoring the evidence, while you’re left scarred but sharper. I assert this: their loyalty cult proves the Pay-triot’s game a grift masked as patriotism, collapsing under scrutiny.
Have anyone one of you experienced this from my channel as someone who has been called out for financial fraud and lack of transparency?
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Ratszinger
15th March 2025, 07:21
Once again a so called intelligent person does not know that Qanon is nonsense! Just as Flynn stated it was. As Patel stated. There is no Qanon. There is a "Q" and there is an anonymous but there is no Qanon and Flynn knows that. He knows the images he shows are related to Q not some fictional made up character by legacy media. Ask them about the real deal, ask them specifically one time about "Q" not some fiction piece and just once and see the difference in their answers then. Until then this is more nonsense. This person doesn't even know that Qanon isn't real for crying out loud.
I am B
15th March 2025, 16:24
Qanon is nonsense now because it is convenient.
Half of Trump's initial success came from the Qanon slogans. Now it's use has expired, so it became "a bunch of nonsense".
Never said it had any sense on the begining, but it is what it is. It promised, it didn't deliver, it held no accountability, and now it expired.
ThePythonicCow
16th March 2025, 02:43
Never said it had any sense on the begining, but it is what it is. It promised, it didn't deliver, it held no accountability, and now it expired.
Plain sense and accountability were not primary objective's of Q's work.
Q's work got some of us who are willing to work the bleeding edge, the frontline infiltration, of what's turning out to be an epic war against the Khazarian Mafia (as known by this and 666+ other such names), into researching and discussing the hidden and ugly truths behind their historically robust fronts. The work was rife with deception, distraction and delusion, and easily dismissed by anyone expecting a more orderly state of affairs.
Q's work was essential to the future well being of humanity.
I am B
17th March 2025, 20:29
What does it mean to "work the bleeding edge"?
So far, as far as I see it, it only got Trump elected, who doesn't seem to be, at all, aganist no Kazarian mafia (more like the opposite) and created a bunch of cool but empty slogans.
So much for the "future wellbeing" of humanity, but never meant to hold accountability?
ThePythonicCow
18th March 2025, 12:44
What does it mean to "work the bleeding edge"?
So far, as far as I see it, it only got Trump elected
We see different things. The future will reveal itself in its own time.
BMJ
20th March 2025, 04:47
That Super Secret Agent Mike Flynn Gets Anointed sorry ummmmm Appointed ???
In President Trump government the beloved of some diehard Q supporters has " not " been given the position of Vice President instead has been crowned a position on The Broad of Visitors at West Point’s Visitors Center. (Basically the military equivalent of a Walmart Greeter).
Where in his new capacity that paytriot Mike Flynn wielding no real power can continue his grifting, sorry, one man crusade to save Murca from his buddies (like Michael Aquino) in the deep state.
Donald Trump pulled another Kari Lake. 😄 Goodluck M. Flynn. Because your lofty ambition to get that Vice President role was never going to happen. That assassination proof self promotion angle was to obvious. I guess this is job offer #11. You do not mind this harmless position right? 🤭
https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1901757184003711277
BREAKING: 11th Top Job offer accepted by @GenFlynn! It appears that General Flynn went from VP to West Point’s visitors center.
Congrats. 💀🤣
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Donald Trump is handing out subpar job positions to all the traitors. 🤡
Kimberly Guilfoyle got some dumb job in Greece that only exists as long as she is alive. 😄 (Don Junior saw the light)
Kari Lake has another useless media position where she should have stayed to begin with. 😄
Michael Flynn has part time advisory job with zero command or authority but M. Flynn is proud to serve. Sure, 😄.
Tom Barrack snagged a random post in Turkey that surely doesn't segue into any more lobbying. 😄
And I bet he probably hires M. Flynn Jr. to monitor Gofundme donations to all the grifters on X. 😄
I can go on but you get the point.
Goodnight fam.
https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1901844448541134943
As A Rule Of Thump - Operation Grifter
This illustration perfectly encapsulates how paid fake influencers interact with their subscriber audience.
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Candace Owens' Promotes Glorifi
Who remembers me telling you all that conservatives are your new problem?
Did you know Candace Owens' Glorifi was linked to Rothschild and Babylonian influences, operating as a front for the Pilgrims Society and Radhanite networks? It was a deceptive company targeting conservatives to integrate them into a Rothschild-controlled social credit score system through Reuters.
GLORIFI fraudulently concealed its relationship to Rothschild & Sons, Credit Suisse, Google and Bank of America, and its business model was totally subservient to MasterCard. The founder of GLORIFI is a Texas man named Toby Neugebauer. Neugebauer received his financing for GLORIFI through a SPAC (Special Purpose Acquisition Company).
This dubious vehicle allowed public money to be raised first, before the company even knows what it might invest in. The SPAC is DHC Acquisition Corp. DHCA, DHCAU, DHCAW on Nasdaq, and the other key investor is Millennium Management LLC owned by Israel Englander.
Tellingly, Millennium Management LLC’s “Regulatory and Compliance Advisory Council” includes veteran British Pilgrims Society corruptocrats, including:
• Jay Clayton, former SEC chairman
• Sir Howard Davies, former chairman of UK Financial Services Authority, NatWest Bank Group; director, London School of Economics.
• Louis Freeh, former director, FBI; collaborator, James P. Chandler III, weaponization of technology for the British Pilgrims Society.
• Joseph Grundfest, former commissioner, SEC.
• Andre Owens, partners, Wilmer & Hale LLP (former FBI director Robert S. Mueller, III’s law firm).
• Aulana Peters, former commissioner, SEC; partner, Gibson & Dunn LLP, Facebook’s attorney during the Leader v. Facebook patent infringement litigation.
• Harvey Pitt, former chairman, SEC.
This is Candace Owens below promoting this Glorifi venture.
C. Owens has sold out a long time ago people.
Now do you see why she is able to have such a large platform?
Now do you see why she keeos attacking Donald Trump?
Now do you see why other figures are not allowed to criticize her?
There is a very dark network protecting her.
Controlled by Mastercard, Vanguard, Blackrock, FBI, U.S. Military, British Pilgrims Society via Lord Michael Farmer, London
The now defunct Glorifi website was ac NWO style layout… Too slick. Too cutsey. Too cool.
Promotes MAMMONIC products and services: Financial App, Credit Cards, Mortgages, Banking, Insurance, Loyalty.
Laughable honey trap byline:
"You're Tired of Corporations Telling You How To Think"?. You deserve the benefits of big tech, while being free to celebrate your love of God and country without fear of cancellation. That's the sales pitch.
Evidently believes mainstreet are fools.
“Pro-America Meets Big Tech. Your go-to tool for managing your money all in one place. Get headline news, podcasts, and a 360-degree view of your financial wellness. Download the app and get started with a GloriFi™ Checking and Savings today!”
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The Face Of Q, M Flynn Or So Some Still Believe
After showing all these facts here on this thread in previous posts about Flynn and his network and people still quote and follow that traitor, unbelievable ???
Preface with this commentary from the twit.
RedReckoning @RedQReckoning · May 5
THIS is why I follow you. Many very good Anons here who have outstanding track records but some are absolutely blinded by FLYNN. I am a nobody and get it. How can they not.
ȺɾìҽӀ @Prolotario1· May 6
Pride
Ego
Narcissism
They do not want people like me to know they got it wrong because then they would have to shoot themselves in the foot with a gun that was meant for someone who got away with common sense.
The Bullet Points
Do you all see how I am always proven to be correct when I tell you 'The Flynn Network' is always going the opposite direction of Donald Trump administration?
Nevermind M. Flynn being fired in 23 days.
Nevermind M. Flynn not informing D. Trump that V. Putin was on the phone.
Nevemind M. Flynn owing money to the army he didn't want to pay.
Nevermind M. Flynn receiving illegal foreign money.
Nevermind M. Flynn being under investigation prior to D. Trump hiring him.
Nevermind M. Flynn waiting 500+ days to endorse D. Trump for president.
Nevermind M. Flynn always being caught hanging with trannies.
Nevermind M. Flynn creating a dating site where your DNA was being sought after. 4-The Pure
Nevermind M. Flynn’s undisclosed foreign lobbying and Turkish connections.
Nevermind M. Flynn advocating for martial law and election interference.
Nevermind M. Flynn’s questionable financial ties to foreign nuclear projects.
Nevermind M. Flynn name never being masked in a 2020 FBI report.
Nevermind M. Flynn giving an award to a tranny in the military.
Nevemind M. Flynn going on record to denounce the Q movement.
Nevemind M. Flynn blocking everyone who brings up all the red flags about his family.
Nevemind M. Flynn never completion basic military training.
Nevermind Susie Wiles telling the current administration to not communicate with M. Flynn.
Nevemind M. Flynn degrading the Q/Anons but still selling Q merchandise on his website.
Nevemind M. Flynn being demoted to a non-import greeter role overseeing military academies.
Etc...
And in the light of all of this you still have clueless people on this platform that keeps trying to promote M. Flynn to a cabinet position in the White House. When Donald Trump is on record saying he did not want any former generals in his administration.
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Poetic Justice: 🚩
Do you all not see D. Trump as a Master Troll?
Who accepted foreign money from another country? Michael Flynn.
Who was giving US military secrets to a foreign enemy? Michael Flynn.
Who now works at West Point? Michael Flynn?
Now do you see the message?
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Ratszinger
29th July 2025, 00:51
Trump just received the files on Epstein separating the fake entries from the real, thanks to Maxwell's testimony on video under oath.
He then went to the EU (no coincidence) with all he needed to show them the proof of what he had on each of them that are the leaders of the EU!
The dates they flew to the island, who was on the planes with them on the way there, what they did while they were there, what airports they flew from and the times.All thanks to Maxwell's attorneys
The EU leaders you see bowing before the altar of Trump will do anything he asks to keep those secrets secret. That's how you get a deal like that! Leverage and that so called " Idiot " Trump has it over all the deviant natured EU leadership making them his bitch! Who is the idiot now!?
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