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we-R-one

12th September 2018, 04:52

I'm sure many of you are watching the path of Florence as closely as I am....my research partner and twin soul lives dead smack in the direct path of impact. Only an hour or so outside of the North Carolina coastline, he has few options to flee for safety. His family owns a cabin 5hrs away further north in the woods where it's higher up, however the news below is sobering and I pray we aren't about to witness a catastrophe of the likes of Fukushima. I've already had trouble sleeping due to worrying about my dear friend and his family....this news makes it even worse.

Please say prayers for the East Coast in hopes of thwarting a disaster like none we've seen. Godspeed to you all....

Fukushima in America? Twelve nuclear power plants are in the path of Hurricane Florence… flooding, storm surge threaten cooling operations

Tuesday, September 11, 2018 by: Mike Adams

"(Natural News) At least twelve operating nuclear reactors are in the predicted path of Hurricane Florence, which has been upgraded to a category 4 storm as it surges toward the U.S. East Coast. According to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which offers an interactive map of active nuclear reactors, two plants are vulnerable to both heavy rainfall and the expected storm surge which could bring a surge of up to 20 feet of ocean water pouring into coastal areas.

Those two reactors, located NE of Myrtle Beach, North Carolina, are known as “Brunswick Steam Electric Plant, Unit 1” and “Brunswick Steam Electric Plant, Unit 1.”

Each unit produces nearly 1,000 MWe of electricity, and they are both built on the General Electric “Type 4” power plant design, which is almost identical to the GE nuclear power plant design used in the Fukushima-Daiichi reactors in Japan. All of these reactors are designed and constructed as “boiling-water reactors” or BWRs. The designs are decades old, and they are subject to catastrophic failures and even core meltdowns that release radioactive isotopes directly into the atmosphere and surrounding areas."

Source: https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-11-fukushima-twelve-nuclear-power-plants-in-the-path-of-hurricane-florence.html

RunningDeer

12th September 2018, 06:03

I’ll add Foxie Loxie’s post here.

That's the whole point, isn't it? We're not going to hear about that on the Weather Channel!! I'll be very surprised if they even mention it!

Talk about Weather Warfare!! :idea:

Five nuclear power plants right in the path of the incoming storm.

Nobody is talking about these in the PATH of CAT 4 Hurricane Florence (7 minutes)
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MrMBB333
Published on Sep 11, 2018

Foxie Loxie

12th September 2018, 10:58

Thanks, we-R-one.....TWELVE!.....OMG!!

Glad your friend has some higher ground to go to! Keep us informed. :heart:

"Timing is everything!" :confused:

justntime2learn

12th September 2018, 15:39

Praying for all.

My cousin retired 2 months ago and has been on the road with his wife visiting family throughout the United States. They are visiting his brother in Virginia Beach right now.

I have two cousins in Hawaii .

I am praying for everyone and their families.

Blessings we-R-one.

Indeed We are!

we-R-one

12th September 2018, 15:55

justntime2learn

12th September 2018, 16:11

I could kick myself for not keeping closer track of where I was surfing online late last night. I was just getting ready for bed when the Mike Adams article hit my inbox....somewhere along the way, I could swear one of the articles I read spoke about a recent 'training' that took place on the East coast (maybe Virginia) to handle a similar scenario as the Florence hurricane. I couldn't help but wonder if this storm had been 'manufactured' hence the organized training, a pattern we've seen often shortly before the crisis occurs. I wanted to go back and take a closer look in the morning, but I cannot find the article....I may have seen it on Foxnews.com, or weather.com ...so if you happen to find it, take a look and see if it's worth posting.

If you live anywhere on the East Coast I would be taking note of the winds to understand the direction of potential fallout. Eastern Canadians may be at risk too. If you can afford it, I'd be stocking up on some iodine as it will be quickly depleted off the store shelves should this meltdown actually take place. God only knows how long it will take 'officials' to share when a breach has occurred.

I wanted to ask this question, but was empathetic towards your feelings.

I noticed you brought it up, so I was curious if I'm not the only one alarmed by the water surface temperature at 80 to 90 degrees ? Is that normal for this time of year?

Wouldn't a hurricane spread the radioactive isotope in a faster more widespread area?

I'm trying to think of simple things to help everyone that could be affected.

Would taking iodine daily be a good start ? What helpful tips could we offer as Avalonian's ?

So sorry we-R-one. I responded before reading your last paragraph. Looks like we were thinking the same things.

we-R-one

12th September 2018, 16:44

I wanted to ask this question, but was empathetic towards your feelings.

I noticed you brought it up, so I was curious if I'm not the only one alarmed by the water surface temperature at 80 to 90 degrees ? Is that normal for this time of year?

Wouldn't a hurricane spread the radioactive isotope in a faster more widespread area?

I'm trying to think of simple things to help everyone that could be affected.

Would taking iodine daily be a good start ? What helpful tips could we offer as Avalonian's ?

If you take a look at the article I first posted, towards the end Mike talks more about fallout and where you can buy iodine. However if you live in areas that are directly affected it's too late to buy it online for obvious reasons. You can still buy over the counter at health food stores however, it's my understanding your body only absorbs 20% of the pill form. I would think it's best to start now in order to flood your system to a level needed in order to fight off radiation absorption. Depending on where you're fleeing to, I'd be scouting out all the locations of health food stores in your location. If you even have the time, take a look at their supply level of iodine. If you are tight on funds and have to make a last minute purchase when you feel it's more likely the reactors will fail, at least you know where to go, but it's a gamble. If they are forced to close their doors due to flooding you will not be able to buy. Waiting is also risky, as other savvy individuals may beat you to the punch. In the article I provided, Mike said, worst case scenario, eat as much seaweed as you can. However, at that point anything you pull off the coast will likely have already been contaminated so that can't be a resource...I dunno, an Asian food market might have something...Ughhh seaweed...not my favorite.... I'm no expert, so do question my findings and maybe research a bit on your own to confirm what I remember as being accurate advice.

ichingcarpenter

12th September 2018, 17:04

Hurricane Florence: Storm generating 83-foot waves

As of 11 a.m., Florence, a potentially catastrophic Category 4 storm, was centered 485 miles (785 kilometers) southeast of Wilmington, North Carolina, moving at 15 mph (24 kph). It was packing winds of 130 mph (215 kph) and enough moisture to dump feet of rain on the region.

A hurricane-hunter airplane measured 83-foot waves near the eye of Florence, according to a tweet from the National Hurricane Center.

"This is not going to be a glancing blow," warned Jeff Byard, an administrator with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. "This is going to be a Mike Tyson punch to the Carolina coast."

Florence is the most dangerous of three tropical systems in the Atlantic. Tropical Storm Isaac was expected to pass south of Puerto Rico, Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Cuba, while Hurricane Helene was moving northward away from land. Forecasters also were tracking two other disturbances.

Storm surge could top 9 feet in North Carolina

The coastal surge from Florence could leave the eastern tip of North Carolina under more than 9 feet (2.75 meters) of water in spots, projections showed. The Navy, Air Force and Army were moving ships and aircraft out of harm's way. Thousands of Marines and their families evacuated from Camp Lejeune, leaving the rest to dig in ahead of what could be a direct hit.

Florence's projected path includes half a dozen nuclear power plants, pits holding coal-ash and other industrial waste, and numerous hog farms that store animal waste in huge lagoons.

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2018/09/12/hurricane-florence-landfall-eyewall-projected-path-83-foot-waves/1278821002/

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norman

12th September 2018, 17:10

This link will keep people up to date on the size and changes in position of the hurricane.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-86.37,33.42,792

It looks at least as big as the big one that came in to Florida last year.

It looks, to me, that it's made a slight left turn and will hit land further south than was predicted yesterday.

Now it's learched to the right ( a lot ) in the last 2 or 3 hours. So back on track or even more northerly.

Helene West

12th September 2018, 17:19

RunningDeer

12th September 2018, 17:37

This link (https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-86.37,33.42,792) will keep people up to date on the size and changes in position of the hurricane

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we-R-one

12th September 2018, 18:09

for all it's worth - my neighbor is a property adjuster dealing with corporations' large property holdings. I had read adams articles and asked him about this and he said these plants can withstand hurricanes. They cannot withstand tsunamis or earthquakes. But then, he tends to be an upbeat optimistic person in general...

My understanding per Mike Adams article, it's the flooding/storm surge which causes problems not the hurricane itself.

"Boiling Water Reactor plants must sit at low elevation near rivers or lakes in order to have access to cooling water

BWR nuclear power plants rely on cooling designs that use large bodies of local water (rivers or lakes) to transfer heat from the nuclear power plant to the atmosphere. This heat transfer is necessary to prevent nuclear fuel rods from overheating and melting down in a runaway nuclear reaction. Importantly, this cooling operation relies on electricity to run the cooling pumps that circulate the water.

For this reason, U.S. nuclear power plants are equipped with multiple redundant cooling systems and backup generators that can run the pumps even if the local power grid is cut off. At the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power facility, both backup diesel generators and battery power systems were present.

You might wonder, then, how the electricity failed on all accounts, causing the cooling pumps to stop operating, ultimately leading to “criticality” of the fuel rods — i.e. a meltdown. (For the record, the entire U.S. media lied about the Fukushima meltdown, claiming no meltdown had occurred. Only now, years later, does the media admit a nuclear meltdown took place. But in their original reporting, they universally claimed there was no meltdown. Just another example of how the media relentlessly lies about everything, not just politics.)

The answer is found in the storm surge — a massive wave of ocean water that swept through the Fukushima facility, drowning the diesel generators, coolant pumps and backup batteries. In effect, Fukushima was inundated with ocean water, and everything stopped functioning. But the physics of the fuel rods was still operating, and you can’t stop fission reactions just by hoping and wishing. So the fuel rods melted down and a nuclear meltdown took place, producing the Fukushima catastrophe we’re all still suffering under today.

As the Nuclear Regulatory Commission explains on this page:

The reactor’s core contains fuel assemblies that are cooled by water circulated using electrically powered pumps. These pumps and other operating systems in the plant receive their power from the electrical grid. If offsite power is lost, emergency cooling water is supplied by other pumps, which can be powered by onsite diesel generators. Other safety systems, such as the containment cooling system, also need electric power. BWRs contain between 370-800 fuel assemblies.

What the NRC doesn’t explain, however, is what happens when all the electrical power and backup generators fail."

And:

"A 20′ ocean surge would, without question, threaten the Brunswick nuclear power plant. To what extent, we can’t say. Presumably, highly qualified technicians are preparing the power plant for the coming hurricane. Then again, Fukushima was also run by highly qualified technicians and really smart nuclear engineers who claimed a meltdown could never possibly take place. Take all official assurances with a healthy dose of skepticism (and perhaps a dosimeter as well)."

Foxie Loxie

12th September 2018, 18:22

Thanks for all the info, Dear!! :highfive:

Why did the last statement make me think of The Titanic?!

RunningDeer

12th September 2018, 18:39

MrMBB333’s speculation: a double landfall hurricane.

nbc.noaa.gov (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov)
WPC Experimental National Forecast Chart & quick links (bottom) (https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/exper/nationalforecastchart/map.php)

NEW - "100 year Hurricane" - Florence to take a "freak" path along the East Coast (10:10 minutes)

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Foxie Loxie

12th September 2018, 18:46

TargeT....Are you feeling "left out"?! I'm sure it brings back memories!

Running Dear.....Where's your fan?! :sun:

justntime2learn

12th September 2018, 19:02

Thank you we-R-one for for the additional info. I can see the design flaw clearly now .

I wasn't sure were to put this two minute (Suspicious0bservers) video. A banner containing "Terror Threat" "Sensitive Information Inside" is shown at the bottom with the hurricane at the end.

Mods please move if another thread is more appropriate .

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Blessings to All, J

RunningDeer

12th September 2018, 19:11

wnlight

12th September 2018, 19:13

Well, I am sitting in a small town in south-central North Carolina which is pretty much in the projected path of Florence. I am here because of family matters, and would much rather be at home in the mountains of Ecuador. I have been troubled by hurricanes before, while living in Houston, Florida and Hawaii. My son is with me here. He lived through Harvey last year in Houston. We will report what we see here. Right now it is calm and partly sunny in Salisbury (a little east of Charlotte). The hotel we are staying in is fully booked. I DO enjoy the BBQ food here! There might be forty BBQ restaurants in this small town. We had planned to visit Mateo and Nags Head in about a week. But they were ordered evacuated yesterday, We will see if that visit is still possible next week.

Arcturian108

12th September 2018, 19:20

I live in the mountains of western North Carolina and am preparing for high winds and flooding. But here is an article I found in the biggest newspaper in the state:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article218217985.html

we-R-one

12th September 2018, 19:40

The article Arcturian provided offers a little bit of security, as long as the storm surge isn't over 22ft, thanks Arcturian:
"Brunswick is built at an elevation of 20 feet above sea level and designed to withstand a storm surge of 22 feet, which would leave the plant’s emergency generators high and dry. Brunswick, which is four miles inland, can withstand maximum sustained winds over 200 miles per hour of a Category 5 hurricane, Williams said."

Hey you don't happen to live near Celo community do you? If you do, please keep us posted on your conditions as my friend's cabin is not too far from there and I can pass the information on to him. I would be grateful!

EDIT TO ADD:
There might be forty BBQ restaurants in this small town.

Great place to enjoy your 'Last Supper', lol....just kidding

RunningDeer

12th September 2018, 19:40

Well, I am sitting in a small town in south-central North Carolina which is pretty much in the projected path of Florence.
Right now it is calm and partly sunny in Salisbury (a little east of Charlotte).
I am here because of family matters, and would much rather be at home in the mountains of Ecuador. I DO enjoy the BBQ food here! There might be forty BBQ restaurants in this small town.
Wnlight, enjoy your family visit and good eats and stay safe.http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/come-in-hug.gif

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wnlight

12th September 2018, 19:44

Thanks for the link, Arcturian108. One thing that I have not read in any predictive reports is the treatment of spent fuel and nuclear waste. I hope that we, in the Carolinas, will not be swimming around in nuclear waste contaminated flood water. I know that the plants have been storing a lot of that waste while the disposal problem is being debated.

Arcturian108

12th September 2018, 19:52

Hey you don't happen to live near Celo community do you? If you do, please keep us posted on your conditions as my friend's cabin is not too far from there and I can pass the information on to him. I would be grateful!

I am not originally from this part of the world, so don't know the Celo community. My spirit guides have made a point of keeping me about 2,000 feet above sea level for the past 14 years.

Foxie Loxie

12th September 2018, 21:05

You guys keep me laughing, even though this is a serious situation!! :sun:

Hope you're having a Happy Birthday, wnlight, in spite of everything! :Party:

avid

12th September 2018, 21:51

Running Dear.....Where's your fan?! :sun:
By the looks of things, we’ll need a few.

https://i.imgur.com/wA2Jcah.gif

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plus one for fun

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We need the power of the orgone bubble asap - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104003-Mike-Emery-Building-Your-Orgone-Bubble-Generator&p=1244297#post1244297
Apparently they can divert all nasty weather systems, so hopefully they will employ this technical facility urgently.

ichingcarpenter

12th September 2018, 22:47

justntime2learn

13th September 2018, 00:46

My daughter who is a first responder for forest fires here has just been informed they will be headed for base in the Carolinas at any time to assist. She's on the far right in the attached.

I just talked to my two cousins in Virginia Beach and they are going to keep me posted as well my daughter upon her arrival.

@ Warren Light ... Happy Birthday

RunningDeer

13th September 2018, 01:11

My daughter who is a first responder for forest fires here has just been informed they will be headed for base in the Carolinas at any time to assist.

I just talked to my two cousins in Virginia Beach and they are going to keep me posted as well my daughter upon her arrival.

@ Warren Light ... Happy Birthday
Thank you, justntime2learn.
Stay safe Arcturian108, mountain_jim, and justntime2learn's daughter and her colleagues and cousins and all.

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Add one more Happy Birthday to Warren Light. :cake:

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 05:00

Hey, I just caught the tail end of this interview so my info is minimal....I happened to turn on the Clyde Lewis show which is still playing right now and he had some insider by the name of 'Sam' on live who has given good intel in the past...Anyways, he was talking about some hacking job that's tied to NSO, HARRP and something else....but it's tied to the sun and the ability to control the weather. He said watch the hurricane because it's going to be full of surprises. Clyde likes to repeat over and over again the events being discussed on his show so you can probably catch it if you can find a station in your area where he's live. My station is transitioning to Coast to Coast am so I can't hear the repeat. You can go to his webpage and listen to a replay of the show, but it probably won't show until tomorrow, however you may be able to listen to it live.

Why does this stuff always happen right before I'm trying to go to bed....ughh...Anyways, I don't know if it's worth listening to and I'm sorry to be evasive, but there does seem to be something weird going on with this hurricane. It sounds like it's going to 'hang' over the same area for a very long period of time. I've noticed its slowed down to a Category 2 which surprises me as the talk was the waters were warm enough for it to reach Category 5. By the sounds of it, for a hurricane to linger over the same area for as long as they're predicting seems highly unusual and feeds into the idea that someone might be controlling the weather which we know they've had the capability of doing since the 60's. So is the point to create a storm surge so huge that it creates another Fukushima?

If anyone has time to listen, fill us in...it's 'over and out' time for me!

RunningDeer

13th September 2018, 05:36

Dennis Leahy

13th September 2018, 06:13

mountain_jim

13th September 2018, 11:38

I am also located in the WNC mountains where the main risks were expected to be power outages or being blocked in due to bridge or culvert washouts, tree-falls, and mud-slides.

A nuclear mishap I am not so prepared for, though I did purchase some iodine tablets some time ago.

In college at Georgia Tech, I chose as my debate topic for public speaking class the arguments against any new development in the Nuclear Fission electricity industry.

My main points as I recall were:

3 Mile Island, which had recently happened.
No solution for the long-term radioactive waste storage.
The industry was protected by law from liability, with the citizens having to assume the risks to their lives and property.

My speech did not go over well with the Nuclear Engineering majors in the class. (At that time GT had a working micro-reactor in use for this major.)

Hope this storm is not as bad as feared and stay safe all in it's path.

norman

13th September 2018, 13:23

It looks a bit bigger than last night (UK time).

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-88.95,33.20,792

There's another big one about to clip the northern Philippines heading for China.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-238.49,12.14,792

justntime2learn

13th September 2018, 14:41

Ben Davidson of Suspicious0bservers says Super Typhoon Mangkhut is "wildly more powerful" than Hurricane Florence at the 1 min 45 sec mark.

The models agreed yesterday for Florence, but not today. "Things get squirrely" at the 1:20 mark.

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we-R-one

13th September 2018, 15:23

Paula, thanks for pulling the audio from the Clyde Lewis show :highfive:

Finally found an article that also points to a hurricane drill I remembered reading about.

“I’ve Never Seen Anything Like This”: Meteorologists Expect Florence To Stall And Hammer The East Coast “For Days”
Michael Snyder | The Economic Collapse - September 13, 2018

"In a worst-case scenario, the Carolinas and Georgia could be pounded with wind and rain “for days”, and some areas of North Carolina could end up being buried under nine feet of water. And even though the peak wind speed of Florence has diminished some, the storm just continues to expand in size. That means that it will ultimately hit a larger portion of the east coast than originally anticipated, and the overall economic cost will also ultimately be worsethan the experts were forecasting.

The word “unprecedented” is being used a lot in conjunction with this storm. It is behaving in ways that it shouldn’t be, and this “strange stall” along the east coast is absolutely baffling the experts.

While discussing this “stall”, Weather Channel meteorologist Greg Postel stated that he had “never seen anything like this”…"

And here we go:

"On another note, many have found it very interesting that federal officials held a major exercise in which they simulated a Category 4 hurricane slamming into the Mid-Atlantic region back in late April and early May. Representatives from 91 different federal departments and agencies took part in this exercise, and the results of the exercise were quite alarming…

Just months ago, disaster planners simulated a Category 4 hurricane strike alarmingly similar to the real-world scenario now unfolding on a dangerously vulnerable stretch of the East Coast.

A fictional ‘Hurricane Cora’ barreled into southeast Virginia and up the Chesapeake Bay to strike Washington, D.C.,in the narrative created by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and Argonne National Laboratory."

Source:https://www.infowars.com/ive-never-seen-anything-like-this-meteorologists-expect-florence-to-stall-and-hammer-the-east-coast-for-days/

This is looking more and more like a manufactured storm....

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 15:42

In Simulation, Category 4 Hurricane Devastated East Coast

By The Associated Press

Sept. 11, 2018

"ATLANTA — Just months ago, disaster planners simulated a Category 4 hurricane strike alarmingly similar to the real-world scenario now unfolding on a dangerously vulnerable stretch of the East Coast.

A fictional "Hurricane Cora" barreled into southeast Virginia and up the Chesapeake Bay to strike Washington, D.C., in the narrative created by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and Argonne National Laboratory.

The result was catastrophic damage, which has some experts concerned that Hurricane Florence could produce a disaster comparable to 2005's Hurricane Katrina and in a part of the country that is famously difficult to evacuate.

The simulated hurricane knocked out power for most gas stations in the Mid-Atlantic region, damaged a nuclear power plant and sent debris into major shipping channels, among other problems, according to a Department of Energy simulation manual.

"What they were trying to do was create a worst-case scenario, but it's a very realistic scenario," said Joshua Behr, a research professor at Virginia's Old Dominion University who is involved in disaster modeling and simulations.

Florence is also a Category 4 storm and is now forecast to strike the same general area. On Tuesday, the National Hurricane Center's "cone" displaying Florence's projected path included the Hampton Roads, Virginia, region where Cora supposedly made landfall.

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Senior leaders from the White House, along with more than 91 federal departments and agencies, participated in the "national level exercise" in late April and early May, FEMA said.

The fictional storm made landfall in the heavily populated Hampton Roads region, bringing a 15-foot (4.5-meter) storm surge and up to 9 inches (23 centimeters) of rain to some areas within the first six hours. That cut off main routes — used for escape as well as for rescuers — in the Hampton Roads area and elsewhere.

In the scenario, Cora also slammed hurricane-force winds into three nuclear power stations. One was damaged. Thirty-three major power substations were at risk from storm surge and major flooding.

Key roads and bridges were also damaged, and debris blocked the Newport News Channel and other waterways. Coast Guard Station Cape Charles lost power, and Coast Guard Station Chincoteague was severely damaged by high winds. The ferocious fictional storm also damaged and closed Reagan National Airport in Washington.

The make-believe hurricane threatened hundreds of cell towers, and the area where power was knocked out included 135 data centers in Virginia and another 60 in Maryland.

The Cora scenario projected hurricane-force winds inflicting "catastrophic damage" to homes and significant damage to critical infrastructure within a 50-mile radius of the hurricane's center.

The manual makes no mention of deaths and injuries, focusing instead on infrastructure.

Another striking similarity between the scenario and Hurricane Florence's path: already saturated ground on that part of the Mid-Atlantic coast.

"What I fear is that saturation, combined with a storm that kind of stalls out," said Behr, who has studied vulnerable populations in the paths of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast and in the Hampton Roads region.

If parts of the East Coast are deluged with water, it could result in a catastrophe on the scale of Katrina, Behr said. And recovering from a disaster in the Hampton Roads region would also parallel Katrina's aftermath, he added.

"I believe that those patterns are also going to manifest in Hampton Roads if and when a large storm hits," he said. "The vulnerability of our populations are quite similar to New Orleans. Displacement, pain, suffering, property loss. All those things are going to play out in a fashion that has parallels to how Katrina played out."

Read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/09/11/us/ap-us-tropical-weather-simulation.html

Wow...really??? See the similarities??

ichingcarpenter

13th September 2018, 15:58

Ba-ba-Ra

13th September 2018, 16:02

Wow...really??? See the similarities??

Yep. . . . They continue to use the same game plan and it works every time. I think many here on PA see it, but the rest of the world sleeps while Rome burns.

Thanks for posting

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 16:15

I'm not buying the David Wilcock's conspiracy on this storm being manufactured that it will attack Washington DC let alone the Carolinas for pure spite. Yeah they are just going after Joe from Carolina's home for what reason god only knows
Maybe some here ignore global climate change where we were warned two decades ago that there will be much stronger unpresidented storms in our future because of what's happening to the planet.

OK maybe its like the movie 'they live' or the TV show ''V'' where aliens are messing with the planet for their own devices but even that is questionable.

Weather manipulation/modification has been in play since the 60's. I remember seeing the documents several years ago...I followed links given by a researcher to check it out for myself....it's been so long since I've looked at them, but I'm pretty sure it was tied to UNITED NATIONS documentation. So my views aren't coming from David Wilcock.

Global climate change is real, it's cyclical. Gregg Braden does a great presentation on the ice cores of Antarctica's Vostok Lake and what they tell us about climate change. I can't argue with ice cores can you?

EDIT TO ADD: That's over 420,000 year old ice cores....

MISSING LINKS EPISODE 1

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we-R-one

13th September 2018, 17:15

This link might be a good place to start:

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-library/a-recomended-national-program-in-weather-modification-icas-report-10a/

"1966 US Government Document Outlines National Weather Modification Programs And Implications"

"This file report outlines in great detail the existence of expanding US weather modification programs as far back as 1956, a full decade earlier than the date of the document in question. A “special commission” is outlined in this document to coordinate the multiple governmental agencies involved with US weather modification programs as well as independent contractors and universities which the report also mentions. It covers the “management” of international impacts, legal and social ramifications, species disruptions, biological consequences, etc.

A rapidly increasing mountain of data makes ever more clear that almost none of us alive today have known completely natural weather. That massive covert government programs have been playing “God” with the biosphere for well over 60 years, perhaps even longer. In recent years the scope and scale of these devastating weather modification programs has been ramped up so much that the entire climate system and biosphere is now hanging in the balance.

The lethal nature of the ongoing “geoengineering” programs can not be overstated. Life on our planet is in freefall for many reasons, but mathematically speaking climate engineering is the greatest assault of all against life on Earth. Documents like the one linked below need to be shown to those that continue to deny the ongoing climate engineering reality. With each passing day radical fluctuations in weather continue to accelerate as a direct result of the ongoing geoengineering insanity. Geoengineering must be brought into the light of day and to a halt. Those responsible for the climate engineering programs should be seen criminals that have participated in ecocide and genocide."- Dan Wigington

ichingcarpenter

13th September 2018, 17:16

the measurement of Ice cores have nothing do with the conspiracy of a cabal controlled hurricanes.. ice cores do reveal climate fluctuations
Yes I have studied the science and results of ice cores

How much energy in a hurricane?

Well, that depends on how you measure it, but any way you slice it, hurricanes release a phenomenal amount of energy. If we start by looking at just the energy generated by the winds, we find that for a typical mature hurricane, we get numbers in the range of 1.5 x 10^12 Watts or 1.3 x 10^17 Joules/day (this is according to the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory.)

This is equivalent to about half of the total electrical generating capacity on the planet! For a single hurricane!

But that's not all, we're just getting started. A hurricane also releases energy through the formation of clouds and rain (it takes energy to evaporate all that water). If we crunch the numbers for an average hurricane (1.5 cm/day of rain, circle radius of 665 km), we get a gigantic amount of energy: 6.0 x 10^14 Watts or 5.2 x 10^19 Joules/day!

This is equivalent to about 200 times the total electrical generating capacity on the planet! NASA says that "during its life cycle a hurricane can expend as much energy as 10,000 nuclear bombs!" And we're just talking about average hurricanes here, not Katrina.

Think about controlling that

norman

13th September 2018, 17:32

Power steering on a battle tank seems to work ok.

It's not steering, it's renegineering the forces.

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 17:41

ya...sorry ichingcarpenter....that's not enough to convince me...you are welcome to your opinion on the matter.

EDIT TO ADD: My comment on the ice cores was pertaining to your remark:

Maybe some here ignore global climate change where we were warned two decades ago that there will be much stronger unpresidented storms in our future because of what's happening to the planet."

You suggested 'some here' are ignoring climate change....and my point was, I'm not ignoring it, as I understand climate change to be cyclical thanks to the data obtained via ice cores.

Joe from the Carolinas

13th September 2018, 17:54

The placement of nuclear power plants (not just near oceans and other water sources, but near people), and the fact that they will melt-down if the cooling fails (and they don't have any or enough water stored in tanks for a gravity-feed failsafe), shows the utter contempt of the Big Energy Mafia corporations for all of us. With all the corporatist cries for "deregulation!", and the bought-off and anti-science legislators giving them what they want, I assume that the Nuke Mafia is operating with minimal safety and vulnerable to major weather events from earthquakes to hurricanes to CMEs.

Hey Joe from the Carolinas, and your family and loved ones: be safe. May there be minimal damage.

Thank you Dennis, very much. It appears we're in a good place right now, sunny, warm, light wind, doesn't appear that the hurricane is anywhere close to me :) Yay!

TargeT

13th September 2018, 17:59

Looks pretty intense here
deG4NxkouGM

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 18:02

This is equivalent to about 200 times the total electrical generating capacity on the planet! NASA says that "during its life cycle a hurricane can expend as much energy as 10,000 nuclear bombs!" And we're just talking about average hurricanes here, not Katrina.

Think about controlling that

Yes, the US Government Has Experimented With Controlling Hurricanes

"It seems likely that various agencies of the U.S. government began heavily investing in studying weather modification following the destructive hurricane seasons of 2005 and 2008. The idea that the U.S. government could be experimenting with controlling or steering hurricanes may sound like fantasy, but the fact of the matter is the government continues to invest in hurricane modification research. Is it possible that the U.S. government, under the direction of the CIA or the DOD, is working with private industries like General Electric to continue experimenting with weather modification technology? Should the public trust that government officials would fess up to secret experiments?"

Source: https://theantimedia.com/us-government-experimented-controlling-hurricanes/

Read article for more info, I think you are missing information.

justntime2learn

13th September 2018, 18:04

Joe from the Carolinas

13th September 2018, 18:18

norman

13th September 2018, 18:24

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, (pig farm maybe) there's a crisis developing.

we-R-one

13th September 2018, 18:52

I'm not buying the David Wilcock's conspiracy on this storm being manufactured that it will attack Washington DC let alone the Carolinas for pure spite. Yeah they are just going after Joe from Carolina's home for what reason god only knows
Maybe some here ignore global climate change where we were warned two decades ago that there will be much stronger unpresidented storms in our future because of what's happening to the planet.

OK maybe its like the movie 'they live' or the TV show ''V'' where aliens are messing with the planet for their own devices but even that is questionable.

LOL yep wilcock spun that yarn, these people discredit themselves. Anything coming for my home will be met with a few surprises. :)

Just to be clear, ichingcarpenter brought that scenario into the picture, this angle was not something being suggested initially(information provided by David Wilcock) on this thread.

RunningDeer

13th September 2018, 19:53

ichingcarpenter

13th September 2018, 20:25

Looks pretty intense here

deG4NxkouGM

120,240 watching now @ Explore Oceans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deG4NxkouGM)

https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

This was streamed 6 hours ago - 95,979 views (at posting)

LIVE BEACH CAMS - Big waves approaching NC coast - PIER being ROCKED *CAMS ONLY*
jwByn_Eb_tw

LIVE Atlantic Beach, North Carolina
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The ocean cam is 34 miles offshore the flag is gone now.....yikes

NOAA was reporting 88 foot waves near the center

I've been in 3 in my life and a catagory 2 at sea on a freighter, we had 60ft waves
battling the ship....

''This storm will be incredibly big and incredibly wet''....... to quote someone.

but I'm gonna say seek shelter and head for the hills.

Impressive videos thanks

justntime2learn

13th September 2018, 23:37

This was just reported by ABC News and 1 hour later raised to 16.

Not my go to news source, but there seems to be confirmation of plants being shut down, probably leaving little if any power for some who stayed.

Florence's projected path includes half a dozen nuclear power plants. Duke Energy told AP operators would begin shutting down those plants at least 2 hours before hurricane force winds arrive.

"Duke Energy starts shutdown of NC nuclear plant as Hurricane Florence nears"

RALEIGH
With Hurricane Florence approaching, Duke Energy has started the process of shutting down its nuclear power plant on the southeastern coast of North Carolina.

Duke is powering down the Brunswick nuclear plant in Southport to comply with standards set by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which require shut downs in the face of winds stronger than 73 miles per hour.

The utility’s meteorologists expect Hurricane Florence to bring 100-mph winds to Brunswick County, said Karen Williams, Duke’s spokeswoman for the plant. Florence will be only the 10th hurricane to come within 50 miles of the plant since 1970, she said.

“We haven’t been forced to shut down for a hurricane in some time,” Williams said, adding that the shut down is standard procedure and plant staff is highly-trained. “We run them through mock scenarios.”

BY JOHN MURAWSKI AND PAUL A. SPECHT
September 13, 2018 02:00 PM

Link: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article218330060.html

we-R-one

14th September 2018, 13:46

Dang, can no longer get a hold of my friend, he's gonna be right in the thick of it....I'm heading out of town today, but offered to help with communications since they know they'll likely be loosing power...I'm not going to have much fun on this trip as all I can think about is what's going on over there...oooh he just sent me a message, thank goodness:

"At present we still have power and no rain. The wind speed here at our house has picked up as Florence slowly makes her way in our direction."

Arcturian108

14th September 2018, 15:41

At noon in far western North Carolina on Friday, September 14th, absolute clear blue skies, only marred by the occasional chemtrail.

norman

14th September 2018, 17:17

It looks like the sting has been taken out of the core hurricane now. The purple color has gone, indication the wind speed/pressure gradient has backed off.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-84.40,36.23,792

Joe from the Carolinas

14th September 2018, 19:36

overcast skies, wind continues off & on, no rain.

justntime2learn

14th September 2018, 20:23

Dearest Avalonians,

I wish our Collective Consciousness could be measured.

Can our positive intentions have an effect ?

I believe so !

I believe in the Elohim, but that's another thread.

My cousin from Virginia Beach reported light wind and rain.

I'm offering my highest intentions for the Carolinas.

wnlight

15th September 2018, 04:51

In Salisbury NC, one hour east of Charlotte, was some light rain this evening with up to 30mph wind. Both have backed off tonight. I suspect that a lot of people have been praying for those folks in the Carolinas. Please keep it up!

we-R-one

15th September 2018, 05:07

Well, mini update since I'm on a tablet...My friend is west of Lumberton and shortly after my last post his power went out......just talked to him briefly and he said the wind has been a bit scary. He's not sure how many trees they've lost because its dark, however he said right when he was looking out his window he saw the shadow of one going down. So far they havent flooded, but they have a creek behind their property which during Hurricane Matthew flooded and brought the water to the back of their porch. The good news is the creek was dry before the storm hit, so that will help, but the bad part is this storm is going super slow, like 3 miles per hour slow, allowing it to dump more rain in concentrated areas. It appears the bulk of the rain hasn't hit them yet so the next two days could be interesting. For now they're doing o.k.......

Hope the rest of u in the Carolinas are staying safe, keep checking in with us!

onawah

15th September 2018, 05:08

DEBORAH TAVARES PART TWO HURRICANE FLORENCE AND WEATHER WARS
Kerry Cassidy interviews Deborah Tavares of stopthecrime.net
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Project Camelot
Streamed live on Sep 12, 2018

"RE HURRICANE FLORENCE WEATHER WARS, RESTRICTIONS ON
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Deux Corbeaux

15th September 2018, 09:45

Dramatic Footage Of Florence Devastation; 600K Without Power; Fatalities Reported

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-14/shocking-footage-florence-devastation-600k-without-power-its-bomb-has-gone

Nothing about Nuclear Plants being damaged.

Arcturian108

15th September 2018, 14:31

Bright sunshine this morning again in far western North Carolina. We expect the rain and wind to start later today. Meanwhile we are happy about some extra nice weather for morning and afternoon activities.

justntime2learn

15th September 2018, 15:14

Coal Ash pits North Carolina

Besides the huge Hog waste water pits filled with blood, pig feces, and pig urine I pointed out upthread that I guarantee will be breach with this storm.

They have huge Coal Ash pits that will also breech and have breached in just storms

http://appvoices.org/images/uploads/2011/02/coalash_buck_LesStone_greenpeace.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/03/01/us/POLLUTE/POLLUTE-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

I have more on the coal ash but you can research it ........these pictures are from rain storms not hurricanes.

Neither of these industries have experienced a Hurricane of this magnitude and this much water affecting the whole state.
I know the nukes are a real concern to all of us ,
but both the hog and coal wastes are guaranteed to cause an environmental disaster unheard of in our times.

enjoy your bacon........and spare ribs while you can....... those prices are gonna go up.

Hi ichingcarpenter,

I was reminded by your post after reading a couple articles this morning.

NBC isn't my go to news source, however there does seem to be at least kernels of truth.

Danger may still be lurking in Florence's floodwaters even after the storm is over
In addition to usual hazards after a storm — including inundated septic systems — North Carolina's hog farms could pose worse problems if they flood.
by Elizabeth Chuck / Sep.15.2018 / 6:40 AM ET

https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_37/2566621/180914-hurricane-florence-al-1203_e97d6ae6939a9080d3933f0937b1ca35.fit-1240w.jpg

Rescue workers from Township No. 7 Fire Department and volunteers from the Civilian Crisis Response Team use a truck to move people rescued from their flooded homes during Hurricane Florence Sept. 14, 2018 in James City, North Carolina.Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images

Even after Florence passes, the hazards from the hurricane won't be over: Lingering floodwaters can pose a potential risk to anyone exposed to them.

"The water is not going to be safe, both from chemical and biological contamination. After a disaster, we tend to see a lot of skin infections and skin rashes," said Jeff Schlegelmilch, deputy director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University.

There can also be waterborne illnesses, ranging from inconvenient but fairly harmless gastrointestinal ones, such as norovirus, to rarer, more serious bacteria, such as Vibrio, a potentially deadly micro-organism.

And while North Carolina is susceptible to all of these usual threats that breed in waters left behind by a major storm, the state is also vulnerable to an additional unique — and unpleasant — set of problems.

As a top producer of hogs, North Carolina faces the distinct possibility of getting inundated with nasty pollutants through hog feces that overflow into Florence's floodwaters.

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"Those waste materials are going to contain antibiotics, of which hogs are fed very high quantities to speed up their growth rate, in addition to the viruses and bacteria that are naturally found in hog feces," said Rachel Noble, professor for the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s Institute of Marine Sciences.

Among other things, hog feces can carry campylobacter or salmonella, Noble said — bacteria that if ingested, can cause diarrhea, fever and abdominal cramps, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

It wouldn't be the first time hogs contributed to flooding woes in North Carolina. In 1999, when Hurricane Floyd slammed into the area, the carcasses of thousands of hogs and other livestock floated through toxic floodwaters that were also laced with feces, pesticide and fertilizer. The stench of the sludge was so overpowering, rescue workers had to put Vick's Vapo-Rub under their nostrils to try to numb their sense of smell as they waded through floodwaters, according to the Associated Press.

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Florence could flood hog manure pits, taint drinking water
The state also has more than two dozen coal ash pits run by Duke Energy, North Carolina's main electricity provider. The ash, a byproduct of coal burned to generate electricity, contains mercury, arsenic and lead. Duke Energy spokesman Bill Norton told the AP earlier in the week that crews would be monitoring water levels at coal ash pits throughout the storm to try to prevent overflow.

Regardless, there are ways to prevent getting sick. Tap water typically gets contaminated by sewage treatment systems and septic systems becoming flooded, destroying their ability to filter out animal or human fecal pathogens; before drinking water or using it to brush teeth, boil it first (local and state health officials may have additional requirements depending on the contaminant).

Mayor of Morehead City, North Carolina, details Florence floods
SEP.14.201802:37
As for floodwaters, it's important to not let any seep into open wounds — something that can be tricky for people who are escaping a hurricane's wrath.

"Have skin protection if you're in the water," Schlegelmilch said. "Use gloves wherever you can. If you have any kinds of cuts or nicks on your leg, make sure to keep those areas very clean, and just try to avoid exposure to any of it as much as possible."

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Hurricane Florence could flood North Carolina's hog manure pits, taint drinking water

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Those exposed to floodwaters should be particularly vigilant for any signs of vibrio — which is very rare, but can quickly become life-threatening. The bacteria, which is more often associated with consuming raw or undercooked oysters, can cause diarrhea and fever and skin infection, and can enter through an open cut or sore.

"If they have a really red, angry infection that makes them feel really, really bad, you have a situation where they need to seek medical help as quickly as possible," Noble said.

DON'T ASSUME WATER IS SAFE TO DRINK
The CDC offers additional recommendations for how to stay safe in floodwaters after a disaster.

Donna Knutson, deputy director for the national center for environmental health with the CDC, warned that bacteria that cause diarrheal illnesses, in the form of salmonella and E. cola, are likely to be present in floodwaters after the storm. She cautioned people who rely on well water not to assume that their water was safe to drink once they return home after Florence.

"Even if your wells don't look like they've been contaminated, talk to your local officials about testing the water after the hurricane is gone," she said.

What's most important for people returning to flooded areas, according to experts, is to not assume that water left over from the storm is OK to consume or wade through without protection, even if days have passed.

"I think it's safe to say if there's standing floodwater, and you're back in the neighborhood, it's not clean," Schlegelmilch said.

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/danger-may-still-be-lurking-florence-s-floodwaters-even-after-n909711

Hurricane Florence could flood North Carolina's hog manure pits, taint drinking water
It's happened before: When Hurricane Floyd struck in 1999, carcasses of hogs, chickens and other drowned livestock bobbed in a soup of toxic fecal matter.
by Associated Press / Sep.12.2018 / 6:34 AM ET

Hurricane Florence's heavy rains could cause an environmental disaster in North Carolina, where waste from hog manure pits, coal ash dumps and other industrial sites could wash into homes and threaten drinking water supplies.

Computer models predict more than 3 feet of rain in the eastern part of the state, a fertile low-lying plain veined by brackish rivers with a propensity for escaping their banks. Longtime locals don't have to strain their imaginations to foresee what rain like that can do. It's happened before.

Homes are partially submerged near Tarboro, North Carolina, on Sept. 23, 1999, after the passage of Hurricane Floyd.Homes are partially submerged near Tarboro, North Carolina, on Sept. 23, 1999, after the passage of Hurricane Floyd.Joe Skipper / Reuters file
In September 1999, Hurricane Floyd came ashore near Cape Fear as a Category 2 storm that dumped about 2 feet of water on a region already soaked days earlier by Hurricane Dennis. The result was the worst natural disaster in state history, a flood that killed dozens of people and left whole towns underwater, their residents stranded on rooftops.

The bloated carcasses of hundreds of thousands of hogs, chickens and other drowned livestock bobbed in a nose-stinging soup of fecal matter, pesticides, fertilizer and gasoline so toxic that fish flopped helplessly on the surface to escape it. Rescue workers smeared Vick's Vapo-Rub under their noses to try to numb their senses against the stench.

"This one is pretty scary," said Jamie Kruse, director of the Center for Natural Hazards Research at East Carolina University. "The environmental impacts will be from concentrated animal feeding operations and coal ash pits. Until the system gets flushed out, there's going to be a lot of junk in the water."

North Carolina has roughly 2,100 industrial-scale pork farms containing more than 9 million hogs — typically housed in long metal sheds with grated floors designed to allow the animals' urine and feces to fall through and flow into nearby open-air pits containing millions of gallons of untreated sewage.

During Floyd, dozens of these lagoons either breached or were overtopped by floodwaters, spilling the contents. State taxpayers ended up buying out and closing 43 farms located in floodplains.

Nearly 2 million evacuating in preparation for Florence
SEP.12.201801:12
To prepare for Florence, the North Carolina Pork Council says its members have pumped down lagoon levels to absorb at least 2 feet of rain. Low-lying farms have been moving their hogs to higher ground.

"Our farmers and others in the pork industry are working together to take precautions that will protect our farms, our animals and our environment," said Brandon Warren, the pork council's president and a hog farmer. "The preparations for a hurricane began long before the past few hours or days. Our farmers take hurricane threats extremely seriously."

The Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday that it would be monitoring nine toxic waste cleanup sites near the Carolinas coast for potential flooding. More than a dozen such Superfund sites in and around Houston flooded last year in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey, with spills of potentially hazardous materials reported at two.

Also of concern are more than two dozen massive coal ash pits operated by Duke Energy, the state's primary electricity provider. The gray ash that remains after coal is burned contains potentially harmful amounts of mercury, arsenic and lead.

Since power plants need vast amounts of water to generate steam, their unlined waste pits are located along lakes and rivers. Some of the pits were inundated during past storms, including during Floyd and Hurricane Matthew in 2016.

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After a 2014 spill at a Duke plant coated 70 miles of the Dan River in toxic gray sludge, state regulators forced the Charlotte-based company to begin phasing out its coal ash pits by 2029. Because that work was already underway, wastewater levels inside the ash ponds have been falling, Duke Energy spokesman Bill Norton said Tuesday.

"We're more prepared than ever," said Norton, adding that crews will be monitoring water levels at the pits throughout the storm.

The company is also preparing for potential shutdown of nuclear reactors at least two hours before the arrival of hurricane-force winds. Duke operates 11 reactors at six sites in the Carolinas, including the Brunswick Nuclear Plant located south of Wilmington near the mouth of the Cape Fear River.

The Brunswick plant's two reactors are of the same design as those in Fukushima, Japan, that exploded and leaked radiation following a 2011 earthquake and tsunami. Following that disaster, federal regulators required all U.S. nuclear plants to perform upgrades to better withstand earthquakes and flooding.

Duke Energy did not respond to requests for information about specific changes made at Brunswick, other than to say emergency generators and pumps will remove stormwater at the plant if it floods. The company issued assurances this week that it is ready for Florence, which is predicted to pack winds of up to 140 miles per hour and a 13-foot storm surge.

"They were safe then. They are even safer now," said Kathryn Green, a Duke spokeswoman, referring to the post-Fukushima improvements. "We have backups for backups for backups."

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hurricane-florence-could-flood-north-carolina-s-hog-manure-pits-n908726?icid=related

Foxie Loxie

15th September 2018, 22:02

Interesting Duke was not responding to questions....the REAL question is....WOULD they report a Fukushima like happening?

justntime2learn

16th September 2018, 02:51

Interesting Duke was not responding to questions....the REAL question is....WOULD they report a Fukushima like happening?

It's a great question Foxie and there's more.

At 1 min. 50 sec. mark, Suspicious0bservers reports a Chinese nuclear plant in the direct path of super typhoon Mangkhut.

I looks unlikely it could miss the plant, so I'm not sure what that will bring.

Either way it will be devastating too.

Hope I didn't stray to far off course.

Praying for all .

IuQtggPlZ-0

Ba-ba-Ra

16th September 2018, 18:47

From Mike Adams, the health ranger.

Our prayers go out to all those who remain in the path of Hurricane Florence.

I've been watching the live satellite imagery, and what's most shocking to me is that the Brunswick nuclear power plant received a direct hit, and the eye of the storm remains almost directly over the nuke plant, dumping huge amounts of rain.

Also from Mike: The internet is abuzz with the hilarious discovery of a Weather Channel reporter caught faking like he’s barely able to stand in hurricane-force winds while two guys casually stroll down the street behind him.

Hilariously, he’s leaning in the wrong direction, since the correct maneuver is to lean into the wind. As you can see in the laugh-out-loud video below, he’s actually leaning away from the wind while faking like he’s barely able to stand. This is yet more proof that many so-called journalists are actually just “crisis actors” who use TV broadcasts to carry out elaborate hoaxes and staged crisis events.

An on-screen number shows the wind is actually just 29 mph where this reporter is located, which explains why other people are able to easily walk around in shorts.

See the full video at this REAL.video link, where it won’t be banned:

REAL.video/5835253261001

RunningDeer

16th September 2018, 19:16

Also from Mike: The internet is abuzz with the hilarious discovery of a Weather Channel reporter caught faking like he’s barely able to stand in hurricane-force winds while two guys casually stroll down the street behind him.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/dielaughing.gif

Weather Channel Reporter busted faking winds @ real.video (https://www.real.video/5835253261001)

Mike Adams’ article (https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-15-hilarious-fake-news-weather-channel-reporter-fakes-hurricane-force-winds.html#)

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/laugh-pound.gif

Weather Channel Anchor Acts Like He Can Barely Stand... As Two People Casually Walk By http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/haha.gif
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ichingcarpenter

16th September 2018, 19:39

Hog Farms disaster

https://images.newrepublic.com/dcff2d9e8082c8fa91f1e5fb6ba57899b71a509f.jpeg?w=2000&q=65&dpi=2&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces&h=1333

Pork industry says everything is fine

https://www.porkbusiness.com/article/disaster-averted-north-carolina-pig-farmers

we-R-one

17th September 2018, 02:27

Update....my friend's backyard is completely submerged and water is creeping under their house. This is the worse they've ever seen. The town of Lumberton, where he works, is in bad shape. Many of their roads have been cut off due to flooding and looks to continue well into the week. They are concerned about the damage under the house and should know more in the next couple of days. They will likely need a new roof. Best case scenario is to have the rain stop however they are due a couple more inches by tomorrow and currently are under a tornado watch. Power will be out for several more days if not the entire week. The good news, he and his family are o.k. as are extending family members, however some of their family members in Wilmington lost their entire roof.

we-R-one

17th September 2018, 02:38

Hog Farms disaster

https://images.newrepublic.com/dcff2d9e8082c8fa91f1e5fb6ba57899b71a509f.jpeg?w=2000&q=65&dpi=2&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces&h=1333

This image you posted is from 1999 not current events, fyi

RunningDeer

17th September 2018, 12:42

Hog Farms disaster
This image you posted is from 1999 not current events, fyi

Nor is that photo in the original article (https://www.porkbusiness.com/article/disaster-averted-north-carolina-pig-farmers) by JoAnn Alumbaugh provided by ichingcarpenter. :blush: It's in this one by Emily Atkin: Hurricane Florence Is a Public Health Emergency, Too (https://newrepublic.com/article/151180/hurricane-florence-public-health-emergency)

Posted under the image: Dead pigs float down a flooded road after Hurricane Floyd hit North Carolina in 1999. (AP Photo/Alan Marler) It’s easy to miss because the font is a light grey and in small print. The reporter may be limited by the template layout. She does make reference to Hurricane Floyd in 1999 in her article.

https://i.imgur.com/Si6ZxXS.jpg

*Suggestion: add a quick note to say the image is from elsewhere.

Foxie Loxie

17th September 2018, 12:49

Has there been any news about the 12 nuke plants? :confused:

justntime2learn

17th September 2018, 13:55

Has there been any news about the 12 nuke plants? :confused:

I'm asking the same question Foxie .

My daughter was on alert to go there, then was informed on Saturday they wouldn't be going at all without a reason.
She was just sent to the Boone Draw Fire in Colorado.

I trust the MSM about as much as everyone else, however last night it was sobering to hear them say "if you plan on staying notify your next of kin."

Blessings to all, J

justntime2learn

17th September 2018, 15:12

Can anyone confirm, deny or add to this alleged collapse ?

Florence's rains: Coal ash landfill collapses in Carolinas
The coal-fired Sutton plant was retired in 2013 and the company has been excavating millions of tons of ash from old waste pits and removing it to safer, lined landfills.
Sep.16.2018 / 2:59 PM ET / Source: Associated Press

Heavy rains from Florence caused a slope to collapse at a coal ash landfill at a closed power station near the North Carolina coast, Duke Energy says.

Duke spokeswoman Paige Sheehan said late Saturday about 2,000 cubic yards of ash were displaced at the L. V. Sutton Power Station outside Wilmington and that contaminated runoff likely flowed into the plant's cooling pond.

The company has not yet determined whether the weir that drains the lake was open or if contamination may have flowed into the Cape Fear River. That's roughly enough ash to fill 180 dump trucks.

Florence slammed into the North Carolina coast as a large hurricane Friday, dumping nearly 3 feet of rain and swelling the region's rivers. The resulting flooding forced swift-water rescues and left several people dead.

Sheehan said the company had reported the incident to state and federal regulators "out of an abundance of caution."

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FLORENCE AFTERMATH
Wilmington cut off by flooding from Florence as more rain pours down
The coal-fired Sutton plant was retired in 2013 and the company has been excavating millions of tons of ash from old waste pits and removing it to safer, lined landfills constructed on the property. The gray ash left behind when coal is burned contains toxic heavy metals, including arsenic, lead and mercury.

Duke has been under intense scrutiny for the handling of its coal ash since a drainage pipe collapsed under a waste pit at an old plant in Eden in 2014, triggering a massive spill that coated 70 miles of the Dan River in gray sludge.

In a subsequent settlement with federal regulators, Duke agreed to plead guilty to nine Clean Water Act violations and pay $102 million in fines and restitution for illegally discharging pollution from coal-ash dumps at five North Carolina power plants. The company is in the process of closing all of its coal ash dumps by 2029.

Spokeswoman Megan S. Thorpe at the state's Department of Environmental Quality said state regulators will conduct a thorough inspection of the site as soon as safely possible.

"DEQ has been closely monitoring all coal ash impoundments that could be vulnerable in this record breaking rain event," Thorpe said. She added that the department, after assessing the damage, will "hold the utility accountable for implementing the solution that ensures the protection of public health and the environment."

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Wilmington cut off by extreme flooding as Florence threatens Carolinas with still more rain
There are at least two other coal-fired Duke plants in North Carolina that are likely to be affected by the storm.

The H.F. Lee Power Station near Goldsboro has three inactive ash basins that flooded during Hurricane Matthew in 2016, exposing a small amount of coal ash that may have flowed into the nearby Neuse River. The old waste pits are capped with soil and vegetation intended to help prevent erosion of the toxic ash beneath.

The Neuse is expected to crest at more than 9 feet above flood stage Monday, and Sheehan said the company expects the same ash basins are likely to be inundated again.

At the W. H. Weatherspoon Power Station near Lumberton, Sheehan said it had already rained more than 30 inches by Saturday evening, causing a nearby swamp to overflow into the plants cooling pond. The Lumber River is expected to crest at more than 11 feet above flood stage Sunday, which would put the floodwaters near the top of the earthen dike containing the plant's coal ash dump.

Environmentalists have been warning for decades that Duke's coal ash ponds were vulnerable to severe storms and pose a threat to drinking water supplies and public safety.

"Disposing of coal ash close to waterways is hazardous, and Duke Energy compounds the problem by leaving most of its ash in primitive unlined pits filled with water," said Frank Holleman, a senior attorney at the Southern Environmental Law Center who has battled the company in court.

"In this instance, it appears that Duke Energy has not done enough to ensure that its new Wilmington landfill safely stores coal ash. After this storm, we hope that Duke Energy will commit itself to removing its ash from all its unlined waterfront pits and, if it refuses, that the state of North Carolina will require it to remove the ash from these unlined pits."

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florence-s-rains-coal-ash-landfill-collapses-carolinas-n910046

TargeT

17th September 2018, 15:15

Has there been any news about the 12 nuke plants? :confused:

it was a CAT 2 or cat1 when it made land fall?

Meh... I bet the plants are fine unless they were so poorly planned that they were built at the bottom of a flood plain.

Ba-ba-Ra

17th September 2018, 20:25

Per The Health Ranger: https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-17-emergency-declared-at-brunswick-nuclear-power-plant-in-north-carolina-all-personnel-blocked-from-entering-the-facility-as-hot-shutdown-under-way.html

Emergency declared at Brunswick nuclear power plant in North Carolina… all personnel blocked from entering the facility as “hot shutdown” under way.

Full details of the event are found at this NRC.gov nuclear power plant alert page, which states:

UNUSUAL EVENT DUE TO SITE CONDITIONS PREVENTING PLANT ACCESS

“A hazardous event has resulted in on site conditions sufficient to prohibit the plant staff from accessing the site via personal vehicles due to flooding of local roads by Tropical Storm Florence.”

Notified DHS SWO, FEMA OPS, and DHS NICC. Notified FEMA NWC, NuclearSSA, and FEMA NRCC via email.

In other words, the Brunswick power facilities can no longer be accessed by workers and technicians even as they are running a “hot shutdown” which requires human oversight.

justntime2learn

17th September 2018, 20:39

I'm finding it difficult to believe that any of the plants were being shut down as reported by Duke Industries through NBC.

It just seems to me that more than 600,000 people would be without power if that were the case.

ichingcarpenter

17th September 2018, 20:51

Just wanted to know about their classification

US NRC
Emergency Classification

An Emergency Classification is one of a set of names or titles established by the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) for grouping off-normal events or conditions according to (1) potential or actual effects or consequences, and (2) resulting onsite and offsite response actions. The emergency classification levels, in ascending order of severity, are Notification of Unusual Event (NOUE), Alert, Site Area Emergency (SAE), and General Emergency (GE). Both nuclear power plants and research and test reactors use these emergency classification as defined below. The vast majority of events reported to the NRC are routine in nature and do not require activation of our incident response program. For information on how we respond to an event that could threaten public health and safety, see How We Respond To an Emergency.

1, Notification of Unusual Event (NOUE) – Events are in progress or have occurred which indicate a potential degradation of the level of safety of the plant or indicate a security threat to facility protection has been initiated. No releases of radioactive material requiring offsite response or monitoring are expected unless further degradation of safety systems occurs. [Note: This term is sometimes shortened to Unusual Event (UE). The terms Notification of Unusual Event, NOUE and Unusual Event are used interchangeably.]

Purpose: The purpose of this classification is to assure that the first step in future response has been carried out, to bring the operations staff to a state of readiness, and to provide systematic handling of unusual event information and decision-making.

2 Alert – Events are in progress or have occurred which involve an actual or potential substantial degradation of the level of safety of the plant or a security event that involves probable life threatening risk to site personnel or damage to site equipment because of HOSTILE ACTION. Any releases are expected to be limited to small fractions of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) protective action guides (PAGs).

Purpose: The purpose of this classification is to assure that emergency personnel are readily available to respond if the situation becomes more serious or to perform confirmatory radiation monitoring if required, and provide offsite authorities current information on plant status and parameters.

3 Site Area Emergency (SAE) – Events are in progress or have occurred which involve actual or likely major failures of plant functions needed for protection of the public or hostile action that results in intentional damage or malicious acts; 1) toward site personnel or equipment that could lead to the likely failure of or; 2) that prevent effective access to, equipment needed for the protection of the public. Any releases are not expected to result in exposure levels which exceed EPA PAG exposure levels beyond the site boundary.

Purpose: The purpose of the Site Area Emergency declaration is to assure that emergency response centers are staffed, to assure that monitoring teams are dispatched, to assure that personnel required for evacuation of near-site areas are at duty stations if the situation becomes more serious, to provide consultation with offsite authorities, and to provide updates to the public through government authorities.

4.General Emergency – Events are in progress or have occurred which involve actual or imminent substantial core degradation or melting with potential for loss of containment integrity or hostile action that results in an actual loss of physical control of the facility. Releases can be reasonably expected to exceed EPA PAG exposure levels offsite for more than the immediate site area.

Purpose: The purpose of the General Emergency declaration is to initiate predetermined protective actions for the public, to provide continuous assessment of information from the licensee and offsite organizational measurements, to initiate additional measures as indicated by actual or potential releases, to provide consultation with offsite authorities, and to provide updates for the public through government authorities.

The following are emergency classifications for nuclear materials and fuel cycle facility licensees:

Alert - Events may occur, are in progress, or have occurred that could lead to a release of radioactive material[s], but the release is not expected to require a response by an offsite response organization to protect people offsite.

Site Area Emergency - Events may occur, are in progress, or have occurred that could lead to a significant release of radioactive material[s], and the release could require a response by offsite response organizations to protect people offsite.

https://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/emerg-preparedness/about-emerg-preparedness/emerg-classification.html

Apparently water surrounds the place right now let's hope it doesn't escalate to level 2 or 3

we-R-one

17th September 2018, 20:56

I'm not surprised..as mentioned earlier, it's not the hurricane per se, it's the flooding which causes problems and if you've watched the coverage over the past couple of days, the area of Brunswick was inundated with heavy amounts of water.

Remember the fictitious hurricane Cora training?

"The fictional storm made landfall in the heavily populated Hampton Roads region, bringing a 15-foot (4.5-meter) storm surge and up to 9 inches (23 centimeters) of rain to some areas within the first six hours. That cut off main routes — used for escape as well as for rescuers — in the Hampton Roads area and elsewhere.

In the scenario, Cora also slammed hurricane-force winds into three nuclear power stations. One was damaged. Thirty-three major power substations were at risk from storm surge and major flooding."

EDIT TO ADD: "At risk is the entire Eastern seaboard of the United States, which would be rendered uninhabitable for 300 years if a nuclear fuel meltdown occurs." - Mike Adams

justntime2learn

17th September 2018, 21:52

After a wastewater treatment plant lost power in Wilmington over the weekend, partially treated sewage flowed into the river. The American Water Works Association has reported 28 water utilities have issued boil-water advisories to people in the region in connection with damage attributed to Florence.

That’s not the only crisis playing out. Thirty miles south of Wilmington, Duke Energy’s Brunswick nuclear plant has declared a state of emergency. The plant’s 1,200-acre complex is currently cut off to outside personnel by flood waters and workers are stranded.

Link: https://thinkprogress.org/florence-coal-ash-nuclear-plant-emergency-92a71c9eaa89/

Floods limit access to Duke’s Brunswick nuclear plant; crews use porta-potties, cots
BY JOHN MURAWSKI

jmurawski@newsobserver.com

September 17, 2018 12:06 PM

Updated 1 hour 37 minutes ago

Flooding resulting from Tropical Storm Florence has left Duke Energy’s Brunswick nuclear plant with limited access to the 1,200-acre complex about 30 miles south of Wilmington.

The plant has declared an “unusual event,” the lowest level of nuclear emergency, as required by Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said NRC spokesman Joey Ledford.

According to a filing listed on the NRC web site, “A hazardous event has resulted in on site conditions sufficient to prohibit the plant staff from accessing the site via personal vehicles due to flooding of local roads by Tropical Storm Florence.”

Link: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article218530735.html

we-R-one

19th September 2018, 15:11

Good news-as long as it's true:

Duke Energy lifts emergency at Brunswick nuclear plant; relief workers start to arrive

"Duke’s emergency notice alerted NRC of an “unusual event,” the lowest level of emergency at a U.S. nuclear facility, and did not indicate a threat to public safety.

The reactors were never at risk of flooding inside the facility, according to Duke and the NRC, but Duke shut them down as a precaution when Florence, then a Category 4 hurricane, approached the state.

Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article218633480.html#storylink=cpy

Trump is currently touring N.C. as we speak, so I don't think he'd be there if there was a problem.

we-R-one

21st September 2018, 05:06

Reposting what I wrote on the Sunspot thread as there may be a connection to the abnormal behavior of Hurricane Florence. Remember the 'Sam' call I spoke about earlier in the thread? Clyde Lewis replays the call again, while him and Richard C Hoagland discuss the possibilities of the intel 'Sam' divulged.

Richard C. Hoagland is on the Clyde Lewis show right now, hear Richard's take on the event in Sunspot and in just few minutes Clyde is going to replay the 'Sam' call again....the guy who worked for DARPA(in scalar weapons dept.) and has called in with good intel in the past. Links below:

https://www.groundzeromedia.org/

https://www.groundzeromedia.org/9-20-18-vulcan-answers-in-the-galactic-backyard-w-richard-c-hoagland/

VULCAN
ANSWERS IN THE GALACTIC BACKYARD

MONOLOGUE WRITTEN BY CLYDE LEWIS

It has been several days since we heard about the National Solar Observatory closure in Sunspot, NM and still I get emails, tweets and messages about any and all follow-up stories about why the FBI black helicopters and SUV’s took over the facility and shut down the area post office.

There have been many theories, and we had reports on the show including the infamous “Sam” call, telling us that there was some sort of solar plasma extraction that was recorded there and that it would certainly be seen later that weapons like HAARP and programs like HAMMER and SMACC were being used to create mini CME’s in order to force multiply 9 hurricanes.

It certainly was a compelling report, especially when he said that Hurricane Florence would have a surprise for everyone. Many were saying that the surprise had to be that the storm stalled over the Carolinas.

However, now it has been reported that a piece of Florence that still remained in the Atlantic is showing signs of becoming yet another Hurricane. There is a 20 percent chance that Florence has given birth to a baby storm, which again would be a rare event.

I guess we will have to wait and see if this happens, as with any paranormal or strange story – you should never cancel anything or any theory because things can turn at any given moment, making a liar our of you or a prophet.

Sometimes you just have to chalk it up to synchronicity or coincidence. Estimated guesses are tricky and with weather forecasting, it is always a gamble.

Meanwhile, there are yet again confounding stories as to why the observatory was shut down.

The media and the FBI are claiming that a federal search warrant reveals that National Solar Observatory was shut down as FBI agents conducted computer forensic searches for child pornography.

The source of child pornography was traced to an IP address used at the observatory and a source within the building observed a computer with “not good” images on it, the warrant states.

An investigation by the FBI revealed that a janitor is the main suspect in the search, however, he has not been charged with a crime even though his name is on the warrant.

The warrant states the suspect would use the observatory Wi-Fi and a personal laptop to download the child pornography.

On Sep 12, 2018, the New Mexico State Police found a mystery man who died not too far away from the solar observatory. According to the NPS release, while closing WSNM, park rangers discovered an unattended vehicle in the Alkali Flat Trail parking lot.

After searching the immediate area, park rangers expanded their search to the Alkali Flat Trail where they discovered an unresponsive man about a half mile from the trailhead between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m., the release states. New Mexico State Police responded to White Sands National Monument, and then confirmed the man was dead upon their arrival.

There was no report that the man was connected to the investigation.

When FBI agents told local law enforcement to “standby” after the closure and evacuation of the National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico, the Otero County Sheriff was confused and said that he felt hat the FBI was chicken **** in not allowing the police to be involved. This created suspicion in the local area.

Now the child pornography story is the official story – and people are not buying it.

Now, all that is left is conspiracy theory and while we still await the verdict on SAM’s call to the show – some recent news stories indicate that the Solar system is not what we think it is and that new revelations about CME’s and hypothetical planets have just arrived in the science news sites.

Even though the sun is in the least active period of its 11-year cycle, also known as solar minimum, the corona is still vulnerable to “holes” opening up inside the sun’s atmosphere. It seems that the Sun was showing a huge black coronal hole on the day of the closure –and there were observers that claimed they were able to extract images of UFO’s or solar particles larger than the earth heading our way.

Some even claimed that a planet like or sphere like silhouette was seen crossing in front of the sun before the closure.

Of course, this started more rumors about Planet X coming to wreak havoc on our little blue planet.

For the longest time scientists have speculated that the Solar System had an extra planet. For centuries hypothetical planets have been speculated about and the idea that we once lived in a binary solar system.

The expectation of a rogue planet like Planet X has always been a topic of fringe science and this expectation persisted for many decades despite the fact that NASA has denied that the planet exists.

Undaunted some of the greatest minds in science have been saying for a long time that a Planet 9 will be seen, which raises the hopes for those that believe that Planet 9 is really Planet X.

The term Planet X has deep roots in the history of astronomy, dating back to the discovery of Neptune in 1846.

Some oddities were found in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus that astronomers couldn’t explain. In 1903, Percival Lowell, the astronomer who’d go on to lay the groundwork for Pluto’s discovery, spoke about a possible ninth planet “X” that could be causing those abnormalities. In 1905, he started using the Lowell Observatory to hunt for it.

Planet X is not a generic reference to some unknown planet, but a specific prediction of Lowell’s which led to the (accidental) discovery of Pluto.

A study released last May, for example, suggests a rocky object dubbed 2015 BP519 orbits the sun on a bizarrely high and eccentric path. A planet about 10 times the mass of Earth and 20 times farther out than Neptune.

No one is calling it Planet X, but I truly believe that there is some trickle down disclosure happening where we will have a definite confirmation of Planet X, but in as far as the scientific nomenclature will reveal.

Having science admit that the planet is actually the mythological Nibiru is probably out of the question.

Scientists are going rogue, playing in our galactic backyard to find answers about rogue planets and they are even considering naming Pluto a planet again.

Then if another planet, a tenth planet in our Solar System is discovered the Roman numeral for it will coincidentally X – that is of course, if it truly is a coincidence.

The simple fact is that Pluto was misclassified when it was first discovered; it was never on the same footing as the other eight worlds. The 2006 move by the IAU to demote it was an incomplete attempt to repair that mistake.

It is yet another piece of controversy as a shell game is afoot because of possible inclusion of other worlds that they most certainly know about – one of those planets is a hypothetical planet called Vulcan.

In earlier scientific speculation, this missing planet was predicted to have been even closer to the Sun than Mercury. And despite the lack of any reliable, consistent observational evidence, it remained there until Einstein shot it out of the sky.

As the other planets were all named for Roman gods, the new planet was fittingly called Vulcan to complete the pantheon. Vulcan was the god of the forge, the metalworker responsible for creating the weapons of the gods (after whom volcanoes take their name). The intense heat of an orbit so close to the Sun makes it an appropriate name. Or it would have, if the planet existed.

It can be tempting to think of the story of Vulcan as a blunder, a laughable embarrassment in the history of science. Or worse, as evidence that science isn’t all it’s cracked up to be in general.

There was a shocking study published in the Public Library of Science Journal, that found“ up to 72%” of scientists admitted their colleagues were engaged in “questionable research practices,” and that just over 14% of them were engaged in outright “falsification.”

This becomes especially concerning when we consider how “science” seems to have replaced organized religion as the new authority that should blindly be obeyed in many ways. People speak of it as if it is infallible, and anyone who questions the high priests of science are generally attacked, degraded, and dismissed as modern day heretics.

We recently discussed that secularism is being embraced by the younger generations as they want to use science to explain the mysteries of life rather than religion.

Now even science is being scrutinized as being off in their discoveries and their answers.

In and of itself, science is obviously inanimate and can do neither good nor bad because it has no mind of its own. It is not a person, so we need to stop talking about science like it is a super hero. It is simply a vehicle that requires a driver, and the destination obviously differs from one driver to the next.

It also differs from one day to the next, especially when we talk about the solar system and the possibilities of hypothetical planets becoming real planets or real planets coming out or irregular orbits like Planet X.

For example, Planet Vulcan, which most people are familiar with because it is the home planet to Mr. Spock on Star Trek, became a little more real recently, thanks to some exoplanet research.

Because “Star Trek” creators eventually associated planet Vulcan with a real star, called 40 Eridani A, scientists have wondered for years whether a factual equivalent of the beloved science fiction planet exists, with or without pointy-eared inhabitants. And now, a team of scientists has said that the star really does host at least one planet.

Bo Ma, the lead author of the new research and an astronomer at the University of Florida, said in a statement “This star can be seen with the naked eye, unlike the host stars of most of the known planets discovered to date. Now, anyone can see 40 Eridani A on a clear night and be proud to point out Spock’s home.

That star, located about 16 light-years away from Earth, is also known as HD 26965. It’s a bit orange because it’s a little smaller and cooler than our sun. But it also has some clear similarities to Earth’s star: It’s about the same age and sports a fairly similar sunspot pattern. That’s good news for people hoping for real-life Vulcan residents. Matt Muterspaugh, an astronomer at Tennessee State University and a co-author on the new research said in a statement that “HD 26965 may be an ideal host star for an advanced civilization.”

Two additional stars accompany HD 26965, and they would be visible from the planet’s surface. The planet itself doesn’t look quite as appealing as the star, because this world seems to orbit a little too close to its sun to be in the habitable zone where liquid water can be retained on the surface. However, scientists are still pinning down precisely what other characteristics determine a planet’s habitability. The newfound planet is about twice the size of Earth, and its year lasts about 42 days.

The researchers behind the discovery are excited about more than just the “Star Trek” connection, though, they said. The new find is also the first so-called super-Earth discovered by the Dharma Planet Survey, which is designed to hunt down relatively small planets around relatively bright stars.

Vulcan has been a name given to hypothetical and unknown rogue planets for centuries. It is recorded that a planet that would be similar to Vulcan was orbiting between Mercury and the sun and disturbing the order of the solar system – it in conjunction with Mars passing close to earth was said to bring war famine and pestilence.

The Babylonians called this “Nebu Uru” an effect of planetary interloping or crossing where the eventual conjunction of planets created a menacing shadow form in the heavens. If it sounds similar to Nibiru – there is no accident since the name Nibiru is Akkadian and also means “crossing place” or “place of transition”, which is connected to the transformation of alchemy or the changing catalyst in our solar system.

In ancient texts the most threatening planet was Jupiter and so the Nebu Uru or the crossing often pointed to Jupiter as the planet that could have been a new Sun – it was then believed through Saturni cults that Saturn was the dark father or the dead sun.

Way back in 1940, Chilean astronomer Carlos Munoz Ferrada predicted accurately that the powers-that-be would attempt to cover-up Planet X when it comes barreling towards the Earth. Ferrada referred to Nibiru/Planet X as a “Comet-Planet” because it has the size of a planet but speed and elliptical orbit of a comet.

In 1976, Zecharia Sitchin wrote a book called, The Twelfth Planet or Nibiru.

Nibiru in Sumerian tablets referred to an undiscovered 12th Planet or Planet X. Unlike the other planets in our solar system, Nibiru allegedly has an elliptical orbit and moves clockwise rather than counterclockwise. Nibiru’s orbit passes through our solar system only once every 3,600 years.

On December 31, 1983 A Washington Post article entitled: “Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered,” said the following:

“A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.

So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.”

The truth is stranger than fiction as this report was not on the Internet and was actually reported in hard copy to let the world know that someday we would be seeing this planet—or the arrival of the huge celestial body very soon.

This planet was called Planet X by astronomers.

“The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone’s throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.”

No one spoke of it since — the idea has now long been forgotten except there has always been and always will be the reports of what are called, hypothetical planets.

In 2012, NASA stated emphatically there was no scientific evidence to support the existence of Nibiru and NASA even released a statement refuting the claims, after the agency was accused of a conspiracy to cover up the Nibiru threat to avoid mass panic.

While NASA still contends there is no threat from a doomsday planet, there are still other astronomers that are still looking for Nibiru – just as they have for Planet Vulcan.

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Sorry this is posting weird, not sure how to fix.... [[ Mod-edit: I fixed it, removing a couple of formatting ops that made it small and pushed it to the right. Paul. ]]

EDIT TO ADD: A couple of days ago, Clyde said he was going to be on the Alex Jones show tomorrow Friday...if I had to guess, Alex is probably interested in the intel Clyde has been receiving from this 'Sam' individual, so it might be interesting to listen to.

Thanks Paul :)

norman

21st September 2018, 07:13

Clyde was on the Alex Jones show a week or so ago. Like Mike Adams and others, they seem to be forming a group to face the censorship challenge as a united battle unit.

we-R-one

21st September 2018, 16:11

Clyde was on the Alex Jones show a week or so ago. Like Mike Adams and others, they seem to be forming a group to face the censorship challenge as a united battle unit.

Yes he mentioned that, but I think he's going to be on again today, I'm listening right now...I'll post a happy face at the end of this sentence if he comes on.

justntime2learn

22nd September 2018, 15:59

As this is partially coming from the Associated Press, perhaps we should "read between the lines". What information may be missing?

"Dam breach at Duke Energy plant sparks new concerns of contamination in North Carolina
By Amanda Schmidt, AccuWeather staff writer
September 22, 2018, 2:23:00 AM EDT

Prior to Hurricane Florence’s arrival in the Carolinas, concerns were raised about the environmental and health risks of the storm. There was fear that torrential rain may flood power plants, industrial sites or animal-manure lagoons, causing toxic waste to threaten drinking water.

The storm has passed, leaving areas in its path flooded and devastated.

Duke Energy said Friday that a dam containing a large lake at Wilmington power plant has been breached by floodwaters from Florence. The company said it’s possible that coal ash from an adjacent dump is flowing into the Cape Fear River, according to the Associated Press.

This incident is separate from the rupture at a nearby coal ash landfill last weekend.

Duke spokeswoman Paige Sheehan said Friday to the AP that floodwaters continue to overtop an earthen dike at the north side of Sutton Lake, a 1,100-acre reservoir at the L.V. Sutton Power Station. The floodwater has caused several breaches in the dam on the south end of the lake, which is flowing back into the river.

Duke Energy said that because of the high water levels in the river from Florence that they do not expect water levels to be affected by the breaches in the dam.

Environmental assessments are still underway at many of these potential hazardous sites. Environmental activist groups continue to sound the alarm on potential contamination.

https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/a35c1b0/2147483647/resize/590x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccuweather-bsp.s3.amazonaws.com%2F47%2F59%2F56b078e440d0ae27d51df7b1a3cb%2Fhog-farm-flood-hurricane-florence.jpg

A hog farm is inundated with floodwaters from Hurricane Florence near Trenton, N.C., Sunday, Sept. 16, 2018. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

Florence's rain left two dozen hog farms seeping waste, killed 3.4 million chickens and turkeys, caused widespread mandates to boil drinking water and kept workers trying to prevent coal ash waste from leaking out of a landfill, according to the Washington Post.

North Carolina’s vast hog farms and waste lagoons pose one of the greatest threats.

The North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality said Tuesday that it had received reports of floodwaters inundating or overtopping lagoons at 22 locations, leaving trails of floating excrement.

Four other lagoons suffered structural damage from floodwaters, the agency said. Fifty-five were at or near their capacity, the Post reports.

To help prevent a catastrophe, farmers took extraordinary measures in advance of Florence, such as moving thousands of animals out of harm’s way as the hurricane approached.

“The storm’s impact was felt deeply across a very large region, and the approximately 5,500 swine losses reported by the NCDA&S Emergency Programs and Veterinary Services divisions were the result of all aspects of the storm, including wind damage and flooding,” the North Carolina Pork Council said in a statement on Tuesday, Sept. 18.

The council does not expect the losses to increase significantly, though floodwaters continue to rise in some locations and circumstances may change.

“Our farmers are working tirelessly now amid persistent and severe logistical challenges to continue the delivery of feed, to ensure power is operating on farms (as many use wells for water), and to reach the barns to provide proper animal husbandry,” according to the statement.

https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/682be7f/2147483647/resize/590x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccuweather-bsp.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff4%2F14%2Fea48bc93405192192b3c0693243a%2Fflorence-flood-toxic.jpg

A wastewater treatment plant is inundated from floodwaters in the aftermath of Hurricane Florence in Marion, S.C., Monday, Sept. 17, 2018. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said Monday that 16 community water treatment facilities in North Carolina are unable to supply drinking water and that seven publicly owned sewage treatment works are non-operational due to the flooding.

Utilities that serve more than 600,000 customers issued warnings to boil water before drinking it, according to state regulators in North Carolina.

Reggie Cheatham, director of the EPA's Office of Emergency Management, said Monday to ABC News that some sewage has been released into the floodwaters through sewer system manholes and a power failure at a water treatment plant in one case.

Cheatham told reporters some of the untreated sewage had been released into the Neuse and Cape Fear rivers.

Duke Energy is continuing cleanup operations Tuesday following a weekend breach at a coal ash landfill at its L.V. Sutton Power Station near Wilmington, North Carolina.

Duke Energy reported Saturday that about 2,000 cubic yards of coal ash, the equivalent of about 180 dump trucks, spilled out of a pond at an inactive power plant.

An EPA official said the material spilled into a ditch that fed into another pond of water but did not reach the nearby Cape Fear River, ABC News reported.

Coal ash is a byproduct of burning coal at power plants and contains toxic metals like mercury and arsenic. It can be toxic if it spreads to nearby bodies of water.

Link: https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/dam-breach-at-duke-energy-plant-sparks-new-concerns-of-contamination-in-north-carolina/70006106

Foxie Loxie

22nd September 2018, 16:22

Thanks for updating us, justy! Such a sad situation. :facepalm:

Foxie Loxie

25th September 2018, 21:47

Cindy Garay had an interesting video taken in NC where the owners of a property were explaining how because their county had NOT been declared a disaster area(even though they had water up to their roof!)....they were not eligible for help from FEMA!

Makes one wonder....are people being purposely driven from certain parts of the country....to what end?! :confused: