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Bill Ryan
23rd September 2018, 13:37
This extremely interesting and detailed hour-and-three-quarter on-air debate with Steve Bassett, whose many well thought-out points are strongly contested by John Burroughs, is well worth its own thread. Linda Howe chips in with a few questions, but basically just does a lot of listening.

If Richard Dolan had been there as well, it might have been the best discussion I'd ever heard about this, anywhere. Even without him, it's thought-provoking in all directions — including politically. Highly recommended.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1g3zyGrYY

Rhogar
23rd September 2018, 13:49
Nice one mate, i agree when Richard Dolan and LMH are together the discussions seem more solid and interesting,best wishes for both:heart:

Bill Ryan
23rd September 2018, 13:55
I should offer a taster. Just one component of Steve Bassett's presentation here is his detailed argument that Trump will resign in the next few months, then PENCE will step down soon after, leaving a carefully choreographed caretaker government (a) which will avert a constitutional bloodbath, and (b) in which disclosure will occur.

Discuss. :) (And, they do.)

Bill Ryan
23rd September 2018, 13:58
PS: If anyone brings 'Q' into this, I'll block them from the thread. :)

(That's only about 20% a joke.)

Magnus
23rd September 2018, 15:07
I should offer a taster. Just one component of Steve Bassett's presentation here is his detailed argument that Trump will resign in the next few months, then PENSE will step down soon after, leaving a carefully choreographed caretaker government (a) which will avert a constitutional bloodbath, and (b) in which disclosure will occur.

Discuss. :) (And, they do.)

If Trump resigns, I won't forgive him.

Luke Holiday
23rd September 2018, 15:54
...Mr Basset bases his projected fanciful predictions on the Dems gaining control of congress and this is simply not going to happen; hence the rest of his arguments are null. Also:
1. The MIC has control of the trump presidency and will not allow such a move on the Donald.

2. The 51,000 DOJ sealed indictments are massive deterent to any potential move on the trump presidency.

3. SB asserts that Mass congressional chaos and a new republican president will bring about disclosure of the SSP, and free energy - nonsense -it is just silly!

Cardillac
23rd September 2018, 16:19
as for disclosure: if/IF Trump resigns and subsequently Pence then we can assume this will be the open door to Project Bluebeam-

Larry

ichingcarpenter
23rd September 2018, 16:57
This might be of interest too on S.Bassett's thoughts


EXCLUSIVE: Why President Donald Trump 'could be about to announce that ALIENS EXIST'

From the English paper the Express: PUBLISHED: 13:34, Thu, May 4, 2017 | UPDATED: 14:05, Thu, May 4, 2017

Snip:

The second event which gives Mr Bassett hope is said to have happened the day after Donald Trump's win.

He said: "I received an encrypted text from someone inside.

"It was not signed, but I kind of know who it is.

"It said, 'there are people inside the Department of Defence who are willing too cooperate if someone reaches down to them, if the secretary of defence reaches down to them’.”


https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/799890/Donald-Trump-aliens-exist-Steve-Bassett-Paradigm-Research-Group

Valerie Villars
23rd September 2018, 17:23
Q

I swear I'm just kidding.

Deux Corbeaux
23rd September 2018, 20:48
Q

I swear I'm just kidding.

Quisclosure ?

we-R-one
23rd September 2018, 21:08
No offense but this interview with Bassett sounds more like him sharing his wet dream than a possible reality, and his seemingly promotion of To The Stars Academy is the icing on the cake. I guess I'm missing what's so fascinating about this discussion??? Bassett is getting creamed in the comment section and rightfully so, imo; I've got 40 min. left but so far feel like I just wasted time listening to nothing of relevance.

Valerie Villars
23rd September 2018, 21:26
I listened to the first 25 minutes or so and couldn't get past that. I got the same impression you got, We-R-One.

Bill Ryan
23rd September 2018, 21:33
Bassett is getting creamed in the comment section and rightfully so, imo;

Yes, he is! OMG. Just had a look. As one can imagine, the YouTube commenters are being really nice and polite. :)

Satori
23rd September 2018, 21:41
I think SB's initials should be reversed.

Add. Ok. I'm about 30 minutes into this. Linda wants him to talk about ETs and disclosure and he is talking US politics.

To be fair to SB. He has conceived of a scenario that he views will result in less of a political and physical "blood bath" than all other scenarios he has considered. And he implies he could be wrong.

Yet, while he recognizes there is a constitutional crisis, he has convinced himself that his scenario will cause the least harm and will be a "win win" for all. He alludes to how events could transpire that would work against this "win win", but he down plays that. That is one miscalculation he makes.

I agree there is a constitutional crisis. It is, in part, for that reason his vision of a win win will not come to pass. Too many competing interests. Honor dies where interest lies.

Also, Trump, Pence et al. resigning and a new person comes in who will agree not to run in 2020 etc... Come on...!? WTH.

Star Tsar
23rd September 2018, 23:30
Given the President's family background if disclosure is to occur I cannot envision him stepping aside willingly..

Soullight
24th September 2018, 07:23
Anyone familiar with Bassett and his views knows his underline preference and disclosure being from Killary, Podesta, Obumer, ect, discloses one thing for sure — his allegiance to the wrong side. Such a “disclosure/agenda” no good free truth loving sovereign people would want.

His “non-partisan” prediction and summary is the most hilarious partisan scenario I have ever heard. It’s more like a dance down la-la land for the deep state as they have no other options than such desperate nonsense. The ONLY thing his scenario would accomplish, (and I doubt it’s his scenario actually but what he’s been fed or influenced by), is business as usual and the corrupt perpetuation of the deep-state and false flag disclosure of the Cabal.

If what has been happening to drain the sawmp wasn’t so important I would have a laughing fit at Bassett. However, you can better believe the Cabal will fail and fall regardles of all of scheming, cleavor rhetoric, and slick willy tactics being employed by the Left, Key Dems, Certain Rep, and other shills of the deep-state.

You will KNOW them by their fruits!

:muscle::sun:

Kristin
25th September 2018, 12:15
I think that Bassett is coming to his perspective from having some perceived success with the Dems on the issue of disclosure. Does he take into account that they were scrapping for votes and that the percentage of people who believe in the phenomenon of extraterrestrials has become a rather large voting block which spans party lines? Was Basssett being used as a last ditch effort to collect a few more? I feel that is probable.

Bassett being offered a tall glass of cool-aide is more probable than the idea that anyone really wants disclosure. One issue that truly spans party lines is to keep the status quo and continue war in order to uphold the economy or should I say, "the military industrial complex". Both party lines have done the same. Believe in what they do and not what they say. Disclosure would taint that golden goose on many levels; too many purse strings are attached to secrecy from the Bush family to the Clintons and beyond.

IMO what Bassett thinks will happen and what will happen are two very different scenarios. The idea that he floats of being bipartisan seems obviously slanted in one direction. The issue of disclosure effects us all no matter what our political beliefs are. To focus on one political end or another does nothing but divide consciousness on an issue that is planetary. Disclosure needs to stay out of any political arena where it is used as a tool.

We need to create disclosure from a grass roots level. We need to organize in small groups and make the conversation legit. We need to make it an embarrassment for the government to not be dealing with this publicly. We need to do this by sticking to facts and documentation, by letting go of unproven nutters, and by creating conferences that are coherent.

I admire Steven Bassett for putting his neck out. I admire him for creating spaces for conversation. I admire his work on the disclosure movement. His mistake is to place his faith in any one place when dealing with an universal issue. Should others who are not of the Clinton camp wish to come out of the closet on this... Basset has now made it uncomfortable for them to talk to him. That is unfortunate.

I find that his using the Russians as a tool to apply pressure to be somewhat brilliant. That in itself may create a stir that moves the military industrial complex into a place of discomfort. He is putting a target on his back in order to do this. There is a great deal to ponder here and a great conversation to discuss.

From the Heart,
Kris

Bill Ryan
25th September 2018, 12:26
I admire Steven Bassett for putting his neck out. I admire him for creating spaces for conversation. I admire his work on the disclosure movement. His mistake is to place his faith in any one place when dealing with an universal issue. Should others who are not of the Clinton camp wish to come out of the closet on this... Bassett has now made it uncomfortable for them to talk to him. That is unfortunate.

I find that his using the Russians as a tool to apply pressure to be somewhat brilliant. That in itself may create a stir that moves the military industrial complex into a place of discomfort. He is putting a target on his back in order to do this. There is a great deal to ponder here and a great conversation to discuss.

From the Heart,
Kris

Great post. And Yes to all the above.

:star:

onawah
2nd November 2018, 22:53
Strange press release from Bassett's Paradigm Research
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Press_Release-11-3-18.htm
This is an excerpt from the link, which follows a brief history of Disclosure events:
"What's Next? A Caretaker Government and Disclosure?

The era of the "UFO" is over. The concept of Disclosure has now spread worldwide and people are excited and expectant. When will it happen? What is the current status?

At this time the nation is in the throes of a constitutional crisis that has forced many projects and initiatives into the background. Media coverage of extraterrestrial presence issues has fallen off substantially. The activist movement has been slowed to a crawl, and this will not change until the crisis has passed.

The following is a political, non-partisan assessment of how and when the ongoing constitutional crisis will end and what that means for Disclosure.

Think of the current dilemma as a complex differential equation. These are equations that can have several solutions in which one may be the most useful. Right now the political leadership is trying to solve such an equation, and this assessment projects the solution they will choose.

The nation's political institutions and processes are dysfunctional, but the political leadership is not stupid or suicidal. They will select the path forward that does the minimum damage to careers, legacies, fundraising and their parties. Some will even take into consideration the nation and the American people. There are a limited number of options, and each will generate considerable carnage. However, one stands well above the rest regarding minimal downside, maximum upside. Call it the "Caretaker Government" option. #caretakergov

Paradigm Research Group believes this is the solution to the present constitutional crisis the political leadership will select. It would unfold as follows:

The Democrats will take control of the House of Representatives on January 3, 2019

The Senate outcome will not be a factor.
Anticipating the Special Prosecutor reports, indictments, trials and convictions plus years of House committee hearings the Republican leadership will persuade the President to resign sometime between November 7 and January 3, 2019.

The current Vice President will become president and the House and Senate will elect a new vice president via Section 2 of the 25th Amendment.

Under a prior agreement that may or may not have been made public, the new president will also resign.

The new vice president will move up to the presidency and another vice president will be elected by the House and Senate via the Section 2 of the 25th Amendment.

The new president and vice president will agree not to run for national office in 2020 after which this restriction will be lifted. They will have been selected on a bipartisan basis and have considerable experience and positive approval ratings.

As of January 3, 2019 the nation would essentially have a caretaker government for the next two years. There would be time to reset normal order, institute a range of reforms, bolster the security of the election process, increase public trust, reestablish bipartisan engagement and conduct a constructive national election campaign in 2020. This option would minimize damage to the careers and legacies of all principals and minimize the number and length of investigations and congressional hearings.

Lastly, there are other options and each of them would result in a political bloodbath the likes of which the nation has not seen in the modern era.

Why does Paradigm Research Group bother to make and publish this assessment?

The caretaker government status described would be the ideal scenario wherein a U. S. president would Disclose the extraterrestrial presence to the American people (and the world). With less partisan executives in office not running in the next election the political legacy would be spread across party lines and involve more principals. The American people would have time to consider a new extraordinary worldview and factor that into their voting decisions in 2020.

If the caretaker government scenario comes to pass, expect the TTS/AAS and Paradigm Research Group to become much more aggressive early in 2019. The TTS/AAS will likely release significant new information and additional former members of the military/intelligence complex may come forward. The truth embargo will collapse and Disclosure could take place in 2019.

Those who support the Disclosure process and resonate with the above assessment are invited to share it via social media for vigorous discussion and use the hashtag: #caretakergov "

Stephen Bassett
Executive Director
Paradigm Research Group

mountain_jim
3rd November 2018, 13:21
Anticipating the Special Prosecutor reports, indictments, trials and convictions plus years of House committee hearings the Republican leadership will persuade the President to resign sometime between November 7 and January 3, 2019.


I think this is Democrat-oriented Hopium that totally misreads what is happening. I admit at least I hope (more hopium) this is so.

I am sure if he keeps digging long enough, Mueller will come up with something, but it will pale in comparison to what the FBI, CIA, British Intelligence, and Justice Department have done in creating a ruse to spy on a presidential campaign while misleading the FISA court.

But because the MSM coverage is so one-sided, and on the side he predicts here, the playing field is definitely not level.

And if the Dems prevail in the House next week the effort to settle the issue of corruption in those agencies may lose steam, but I still see indictments, trials and convictions that are more targeted at the political corruption in those agencies than anything related to the red-herring Russian collusion.

In spite of the MSM steerage.

Time will Tell though and we do live in interesting times.

norman
6th May 2023, 12:16
I may be too far behind the curve with the story about Bentwaters, John Burroughs etc, so this might not be such a fresh look at things for others as it has been for me.

This interview with John is by a guy from outside the usual ufology crowd, and he's a good listener.

I've generally become quite tired of ufology natter but this interview got my attention from soon after the get go. It almost doesn't go near the extraterrestrial hypothesis at all, it hints at much more earthly things. Later in the interview John talks about the advanced state of earthly technological development very matter-of-factly.

Choosing a thread to post this was a struggle, but here it is.


The Confessionals - 542 - Weaponization Of UAPs - From Rendlesham Forest to Artificial Intelligence (https://podbay.fm/p/the-confessionals/e/1683000000)
2 hour 9 minutes Posted May 2, 2023

SHOW NOTES
In Episode 542: Weaponization Of UAPs | From Rendlesham Forest to Artificial Intelligence we are joined by John Burroughs to talk about what he saw during his legendary 3-day encounter with UAPs in Rendlesham Forest in 1980. The Rendlesham Forest incident is possibly just as important or more so than Roswell. John came on to talk about what his experience was and also what he thinks the purpose of it was. We talk about how Project Blue Beam could play into the future of UAP sightings and collective consciousness. What does the government know and how do they plan on using that knowledge to their benefit against the people? What are they doing behind closed doors with pseudoscientific methods to create wormholes to affect time and space? We talk about it all on today’s show.