Kavanaugh Hearings a National Disgrace

[Olam]

It's just I've never in my life seen the political machinations of the deep state so obvious, I'm in utter and complete disbelief how some folks do not see it.

It is literally the big bad wolf dressed up as Grandma and folks are literally fighting to the death defending she who will remove her mask and gleefully eat you with a fine Chianti and a side of fava beans.

Yes. :) It's part of a much bigger picture, of course. Manipulation and falsification in the mainstream news media (which is a HUGE influence), the deliberate creation or amplification of a multitude of everyday problems so that most people have no time or energy to think of any bigger picture of any kind, trivial entertainment (including smartphone addiction and everything trivial that comes with it), not to even start on deliberate planetary-wide malnutrition and poisoning that affects us spiritually as well as emotionally and physically.

Those who really know what's going on, even if they may disagree on a few details, are a tiny minority.

Something to think about: Every member here is far far FAR more aware than 99%+ of the rest of the populace.

Folks, I'm just saying: don't turn against your own kind. It achieves nothing, except making one feel good for a few minutes after posting something one thinks is a clever one-up on someone else. Don't do it. We're all better than that.

~~~

@Helene, I appreciate your passion. I really mean it. But saying something like "Social credit demerit for me" is cheap and sarcastic. That's what got triggered. You never had to say that. It was a reaction.

Nothing like that will ever upset me personally, but this is your forum. Just make it what you want it to be, by example and proactivity. It's really not that hard.

:focus: (Again! :) )

Thanks Bill for that piscean wisdom!....
Beautiful spirit in a skin suit.

[ramus]

@ Mgray ...Feingold was the only senator to vote against the Patriot Act when it was first introduced in 2001, saying that its provisions infringed upon citizens' civil liberties.

They are all in this together. That's why nobody brought it up. I agree with you.

[apokalypse]

anyone find Ford are credible or believe her? never step into victim shoes or never had that feelings but hear so many of these victim believe in her. i know someone who are the victim had argument with pro trump..she's a victim.

if she's victim or rape or sexual before could be from Mk Ultra? she's an CIA study these kind of stuff with human behavior and traumatize seems these victim believe her...

i don't want to lie or spin in my view of ford case go with her view...only bring out politics and outside of her stories to proof this whole this is hard to believe.

[ramus]

I have to comment, the use of the word RAPE is manipulative ,there was even the word DEATH used, can't everyone see thru this, what an obvious ruse. Ford is not believable.

If she was scared for her life it took a long time for her to say something. Oh I, know she was traumatized.

[Helene West]

So relieved it's over and the vote went yes.
That being said we have no choice now but to be vigilant to the 4th amendment danger he possibly represents.

But as The Pres says, "You can't give matches to an arsonist and you can't give power to an angry mob."

Tangentially, I'm researching the possibility that the supposedly high fiber diets we've been brainwashed to believe is good for us is actually causing colorectal ailments. We just may be lied to about everything!
Our own experience, brains and hunches may be all we really have.

[thepainterdoug]

My once wife Debbie, passed on now, was a smart, savvy and stylish women who never gave any credence to this" equality "and empowerment of one person, gender or another. Debbie believed you come into this world with the cards you are dealt, and its on you, the individual to devise a tragedy for survival by your own special gifts. She knew how to fend off unwanted advances from men ,with class and compassion leaving as she would call, "a lifeboat" for the so called rejected . She used humor and disarmed people smartly. God bless her !

People play victims. They put themselves in a questionable position and then cry victim. What was this woman doing there in the house , on the bed in the first place? Why was she in a house where drinking and this alleged behavior was happening? Could she not read the play and of remove herself ?
And what if each one of you reading this blog was falsely accused? How would you respond?
The accusations on the front page, the apologies and retractions, on the back page weeks later after the damage is done.

There is no equality for anyone. I am not equal to younger bigger strong and richer men. And I , as a guy have been abused by some user women who have mis represented themselves to me , and after getting what they wanted, shape shifted their way out like traitors to our word, all in careless, non compassionate non loving way. does this not count as abuse? Betrayal is something very hurtful.

We are all subject to these injustices , simple by being here and participating on planet earth.

I have no idea what happened back then to these two but they were young and If something happened, was really any harm done?
And we sure wouldn't scrutinize our Generals in the field taking us into battle with wether he fondled a female when he was a teenager. We certainly don't mind who does our killing.

Im sick of the whole thing, what I see today and what happening to our male female natural harmony. And I know a lot of men, AND WOMEN AS WELL who are sick of it too.

Real crimes should be prosecuted! We are a great country because we are a country of laws. But evidence is required and a trial by jury of your peers granted you.

Hope we all weather this time period

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm curious if there is anyone who objectively researched this person and who would say, this is a good person to have as a Supreme Court justice, for life - the closest thing to a monarch in the USA government.

Did you want him because the democrats didn't?

Did you want him because you assume the groping/attempted rape accusation was fabricated, so, you see the the appointment more as a reward for withstanding false accusations?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his association with george w bush and 9/11?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his support for the "patriot act"?

I grew up in the USA, INC. I am well aware of the hyperbolic rift between the only two political gangs, and that once a person chooses one of these gangs, then everything the other gang does is wrong and everything your own gang does is correct. I realize that this is the simple reality for the vast majority of US citizens. I don't know if it is also true of Avalon members that have been fully exposed to the duopoly gambit.

Is there anyone here that objectively examined brett kavanaugh and said to themselves, "Now that person should be appointed to the Supreme Court for the rest of his life, to be at the highest level of interpreting the US Constitution!"

[Valerie Villars]

I honestly have to say I never objectively analyzed Kavanaugh. Right or wrong, when I saw that pro Hillary people were rabidly against him, I immediately thought there must be something there.

I'm just going to stand up and say that, however bad it makes me look. Because I am anti Hillary.

[Helene West]

I honestly have to say I never objectively analyzed Kavanaugh. Right or wrong, when I saw that pro Hillary people were rabidly against him, I immediately thought there must be something there.

I'm just going to stand up and say that, however bad it makes me look. Because I am anti Hillary.

That crowd really doesn't leave us much choice

[Dennis Leahy]

I honestly have to say I never objectively analyzed Kavanaugh. Right or wrong, when I saw that pro Hillary people were rabidly against him, I immediately thought there must be something there.

I'm just going to stand up and say that, however bad it makes me look. Because I am anti Hillary.
Thank you. I too am rabidly, frothing-at-the-mouth, anti-hillary.

For many years, I just called politics "left handed liars and right handed liars", and didn't vote at all. With tricky dick nixon in office as I was "coming of age" (and #4 in the final Vietnam War draft numbers), the republicans represented "the establishment", tyranny, and war, and I fell into the trap of thinking that democrats were different, better. Up until obama picked his first cabinet, I was a democrat, and held onto it far longer than I should have, based on billybob clinton's actions (not just beneath his desk, but with the FCC monopolization issue, destruction of Glass-Stegal, and the concept of "balkinization", etc.), but once I removed that shackle, I never got fitted for another one (I didn't go to the other party, I divorced myself from the duopoly.) But yes, I do know what you mean and appreciate your honesty.

[ramus]

@ Dennis Leary ... I didn't want him, but what i did want was a fair an impartial assessment of his qualifications . What we got was a kangaroo court. I / we have no say in who gets nominated so that is not on the table. The democrats didn't object to his qualifications they started a which hunt, they might have gotten further if they were honest and showed what they were opposed to. They lost because they were deceptive and lairs.

[Praxis]

I'm curious if there is anyone who objectively researched this person and who would say, this is a good person to have as a Supreme Court justice, for life - the closest thing to a monarch in the USA government.

Did you want him because the democrats didn't?

Did you want him because you assume the groping/attempted rape accusation was fabricated, so, you see the the appointment more as a reward for withstanding false accusations?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his association with george w bush and 9/11?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his support for the "patriot act"?

I grew up in the USA, INC. I am well aware of the hyperbolic rift between the only two political gangs, and that once a person chooses one of these gangs, then everything the other gang does is wrong and everything your own gang does is correct. I realize that this is the simple reality for the vast majority of US citizens. I don't know if it is also true of Avalon members that have been fully exposed to the duopoly gambit.

Is there anyone here that objectively examined brett kavanaugh and said to themselves, "Now that person should be appointed to the Supreme Court for the rest of his life, to be at the highest level of interpreting the US Constitution!"

This is just the thing.
The people who are claiming that this is a disgrace are not even focusing on why it is a disgrace.

There is zero focus on his merits as a judge and his opinions. Ill bet everyone in this thread has not read one single brief the man has written.

This thread is about party politics. The people in this thread seem to generally be party people(even though most would probably claim they are not).

The lack of discussion regarding the patriot act and Brett says all you need to know. The people on this forum seem to be okay with all the **** Bush did during his time because GEOTUS is doing it now so it must be ok. They make excuses about it, but as I have mentioned many times before, in the realms that GEOTUS has direct presidential authority over the war machine under the aegis of NDAA they keep passing.

Ill bet I could go back on comb through the political threads on this forum and there will be mention about how bad OBUMMER was and how he was Jade Helming us in a matter of months. But now that our boy is in office, it is okay; Guantanamo Bay!

[ramus]

The whole thread is about why it is a disgrace .The democrats had a chance to bring up his record, but they spent all there time on a lie, maybe the outcome would been different if they hadn't.

[ramus]

@ Helene West ...It's all a lie .. just about everything is ..... Bob Dylan said it best " if you add up all the truth it would add up to one big lie." I've come to the conclusion it's all upside down, or backwards and sometimes both.

[Satori]

As I noted on an earlier post on this thread, the person(s) best suited to be on the USSC was not even under consideration. Who is that person? There are many.

But, in my view, for any of us to have vetted Kavanaugh objectively would be an exercise in futility. We have no influence, zero, none, in the decision-making process with respect to who is to be considered for any positions in federal government; so too for state and city government.

She was not supposed to lose. None of this was supposed to be happening. It was supposed to be people with leanings desired by Killary et al. who are supposed to be elevated to the USSC and hold cabinet level positions, etc... But she did lose. Yet, they want to obtain results that would have occurred had she not lost. They are ignoring the political realities because they don't like the outcomes. They are very nervous.

They will split the country in two if they have to. We, the people, cannot allow that to happen. We must toss aside the petty bickering and do not take the bait on faux issues designed to keep us divided and conquered.

What we do need to be objective about is our research and discernment. We need to come to conclusions based on right versus wrong, good versus evil, not left versus right, or Dem versus Repub.

That's all I've got to say about that.

[Bill Ryan]

They will split the country in two if they have to. We, the people, cannot allow that to happen. We must toss aside the petty bickering and do not take the bait on faux issues designed to keep us divided and conquered.

What we do need to be objective about is our research and discernment. We need to come to conclusions based on right versus wrong, good versus evil, not left versus right, or Dem versus Repub.



:bump:

Amen to that. Yes, exactly. Please. :flower:

[Helene West]

@Satori - "...They will split the country in two if they have to."

No they won't. Too many are socialist leaning and they know they need others to suck the blood from. They need people to take from. e.g. the calls from some blacks for compensation from whites. That's what much of the blathering about white privilege is about. Setting up to take from. The dems have been about taxing, not just income tax, but obamacare, etc., the middle class to give to the so-called poor and any other group they consider sainted. They know they can't stand on their own.

Now Chaos yes. They love that. But that's an easy solution as there really isn't much of a democratic party, it has been severely globalist infiltrated. So get rid of the globalist paid provocateurs, Soros and any affiliated NGO/non-profit that is cover for paid protestors, etc. and you won't have a civil war. Without the paid provacateurs most of america wants to come home from work and watch a movie, read a book or watch sports, they sure don't want to be in a war.

Above is the "left" side.

As far as the right or even middle, they are still idealistic and dream of a united country.
For your consideration I'm reposting a link I had given before by a youtuber where she deals with this subject and questions - "Keeping the Country Together - Should We?"
https://youtu.be/g2IUjVWtqRA
Blonde in the Belly of the Beast

[Bayareamom]

To me, "being political" means taking sides and losing objectivity.
In my view, and I think it's been quite clearly borne out on this thread and others, both sides are so corrupt there's not much sense in taking sides.
If you aren't taking a side, you can explore and see much more clearly what any particular thing coming from either side needs to be criticized, what it might actually mean, why it may need to be examined more deeply, etc. etc.
If I sympathize with an individual who I see caught up in that circus, it's not because I have taken a side, but because I see what a trap the whole political system has become, and I would hate to be in their shoes, even if they have unwittingly put themselves in that situation.
That's only human, and is part of having compassion.
At the same time, I can find it very difficult to sympathize with others who seem to have intentionally put themselves in a position where they are inflicting great harm on others quite consciously.
Righteous anger is also a part of compassion, and can be a very positive thing.
And I think there is a difference between those two, which merit different responses.
If I snipe at the Trump Admin it's not because I've taken a side but because there are plenty of things that need to be criticized.
If I'm on a side, it would be Gaia's.
And a lot of the "snipes" I post are not mine, but originate from the environmental groups that I am quoting.
Those are important distinctions. and I speak not just for myself, but for other members who I see working from similar perspectives.
It's a learning process.


You have "no clue"? okayyyy

I disagree. She is political. Even her environmental posts in many of the first sentences start out as a snipe at the trump administration. Awhile back she was posting them on the Q thread and would have continued if not called out on it.
So, to me it's baloney that all of a sudden she's po'd at politics and wants to wash her hands of the whole dirty thing, but I'll apologize that my "you don't have a clue" remark was sarcastic. I should have refrained from that. Social credit demerit for me.


THANK you, Onawah. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[onawah]

The Accusers Are the Conspirators
10/7/18
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-accusers-are-the-conspirators/
"The reason they chop it all into a million pieces ( the data) is to CONFUSE you!"...George Webb
PhaaE3tT7S8
"For George Webb, it seems that all roads lead to Andy McCabe and for the first time here, he reveals a bit more about his status as a (FBI?) whistleblower.

For years, George has been on McCabe's trail, way back when the latter was involved in blackmailing operations; bringing girls over from Eastern Europe to beach house parties and parties on yachts with VIPs. The girls would be surreptitiously drugged with scopolamine and McCabe would secretly film targeted people engaging in sexually abusive behavior in order to compromise them. George said he was physically present to observe this activity – and the cameras on at least three occasions, in three different cities.

George says that these compromise operations were the specialty of McCabe and Comey, who rarely solved crimes; instead, they slow-walked documents and pinned crimes on innocent people.

George says the FBI ran an operation every year at a beach house to collect dirt on people. Often, these "parties" would be held at Trump hotel properties. He says Julie Swetnick, the Kavanaugh gang-rape accuser was a recruiter of young girls for these operations, as was FBI agent an DOJ official, Monica McLean – the same Monica McLean who is the life-long best friend of Christine Blasey Ford, who the latter coached to help her pass her polygraph in order to get hired for her FBI job, way back when, according to Ford's ex-boyfriend.

It's the same Monnica McLean of whom Ford's other friend, Leland Kyser complained had pressured her to alter testimony that she had no recollection of the fateful party or of ever having met Brett Kavanaugh. Ford has claimed that Kyser was present and Kyser denies it.

"It's a very small enclave within the FBI but it's actually the CIA trying to get in there," says George. Everything becomes clear and easy to understand when you see that the modus operandi of these people is that the "conspirators do the accusing." He says he almost wishes that the Kavanaugh hearings had lasted for two years because they helped to reveal so much.

George explains that Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is officially a partnership between various law enforcement agencies is in reality "a cover for drug operations." He explains that this was exactly how the Phoenix Operation worked in Vietnam. As with GHW Bush's Zapata Oil Company, all major drug- and human trafficking operations involve oil platforms and helicopters, because nobody ever suspects or stops these helicopters.

As he signs off, George mentions that Trump's order to declassify the FISA warrants were still being processed and that National Security Director, Dan Coates was to sign off on them but they apparently hadn't hit his desk yet, which George takes to be "a very bad sign because it means it hasn't gone anywhere off of Rod Rosenstein's desk." "

(I don't know much about George Webb. Anyone? update: I see BaBaRa posted some info about him here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1244791&viewfull=1#post1244791) He's all over the place in the video I posted here, covering many more subjects than I am familiar with, but the info relating to Kavanaugh's accusers is certainly riveting. )

[Valerie Villars]

Which tells you they have dirt on the best of us. They have dirt on as many people as they can. Damn, they probably have it on me, though it would have been under a drug like scopalmine or the extreme stupidity of youth.

You can't define a person by how much they've been compromised by subterfuge. Those bastards have a large part of the world by the testicles, by those standards.

The real issue is, did you learn how much you were manipulated and adjust your behaviour accordingly? From now on is what counts.

Good people are compromised because they underestimated the nastiness of others. It happens.

[onawah]

I'm not jumping to conclusions.
Confirmation of this info, like any other, needs to be forthcoming.
Webb certainly looked jumpy and nervous, like he was sitting on a powder keg, but if anything, we should realize we can't really tell anything for certain just from behavior.
Swetnick sure seemed credible in the MSN video of her, but according to Webb, she is a procurer of young women for sexual abuse.
This is all like the last days of Rome before it burned.

[T Smith]

I'm curious if there is anyone who objectively researched this person and who would say, this is a good person to have as a Supreme Court justice, for life - the closest thing to a monarch in the USA government.

Did you want him because the democrats didn't?

Did you want him because you assume the groping/attempted rape accusation was fabricated, so, you see the the appointment more as a reward for withstanding false accusations?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his association with george w bush and 9/11?

Did you want him in spite of, or because of, his support for the "patriot act"?

I grew up in the USA, INC. I am well aware of the hyperbolic rift between the only two political gangs, and that once a person chooses one of these gangs, then everything the other gang does is wrong and everything your own gang does is correct. I realize that this is the simple reality for the vast majority of US citizens. I don't know if it is also true of Avalon members that have been fully exposed to the duopoly gambit.

Is there anyone here that objectively examined brett kavanaugh and said to themselves, "Now that person should be appointed to the Supreme Court for the rest of his life, to be at the highest level of interpreting the US Constitution!"



@ Dennis Leary ... I didn't want him, but what i did want was a fair an impartial assessment of his qualifications . What we got was a kangaroo court. I / we have no say in who gets nominated so that is not on the table. The democrats didn't object to his qualifications they started a which hunt, they might have gotten further if they were honest and showed what they were opposed to. They lost because they were deceptive and lairs.

In response to your question, Dennis, I'm not sure if I could articulate any better than this. Democrats were so brazenly disgusting and open in their illegitimate assassination attempt of this candidate it almost made me blindly support Kavanaugh for the sake of balancing justice.

Had they approached their dissent by questioning his connection to the Patriot Act or his disregard of the 4th amendment in past judicial rulings, I may have sat up and took notice. But then again, they are politicians (and probably support his positions on these issues), and they likely understand that the vast swath of the general public could care less about the perils of the Patriot Act and would gladly give up a few constitutional liberties for the sake of synthetically-derived safety. So that approach wouldn't work. So they instead do what they do. By any means necessary.

Frankly, their opposition was so brazen and transparent (it's like they aren't even pretending anymore), I'm surprised they just didn't size him up for some cement shoes. It would have been more efficient.

I will also add that the left, it seems to me, is becoming so radicalized (identity politics, balkanization, hate/race baiting, etc.) I find myself in full knee-jerk reaction. It's not a good place to be, as I typically consider myself open minded.

We are in extremely divisive and highly charged times, where even those of us who understand the play book of divide and conquer sometimes fall prey and get sucked in if we're not careful.

[ichingcarpenter]

Where I stand with you 'libtards' and rethugicans on this issue

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/558f2e056bb3f75d600810a8-750-485.jpg

August Landmesser 1936

[Deux Corbeaux]

Where I stand with you 'libtards' and rethuglicans on this issue

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/558f2e056bb3f75d600810a8-750-485.jpg


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August Landmesser 1936

August Landmesser, the man in the red circle, was a member of the Nazi Party until 1935 when he decided to marry a Jewish woman.

What happened to the man who refused to give a Nazi salute

Read here. https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2015/0701/What-happened-to-the-man-who-refused-to-give-a-Nazi-salute

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That´s the power of love.....

[apokalypse]

The whole thread is about why it is a disgrace .The democrats had a chance to bring up his record, but they spent all there time on a lie, maybe the outcome would been different if they hadn't.

yeh..i was surprise whole record thing stop and seems like nothing happen, got me thinking Dems got nothing at all or not true at all regarding documents?

[DNA]

In response to your question, Dennis, I'm not sure if I could articulate any better than this. Democrats were so brazenly disgusting and open in their illegitimate assassination attempt of this candidate it almost made me blindly support Kavanaugh for the sake of balancing justice.

Had they approached their dissent by questioning his connection to the Patriot Act or his disregard of the 4th amendment in past judicial rulings, I may have sat up and took notice. But then again, they are politicians (and probably support his positions on these issues), and they likely understand that the vast swath of the general public could care less about the perils of the Patriot Act and would gladly give up a few constitutional liberties for the sake of synthetically-derived safety. So that approach wouldn't work. So they instead do what they do. By any means necessary.

Frankly, their opposition was so brazen and transparent (it's like they aren't even pretending anymore), I'm surprised they just didn't size him up for some cement shoes. It would have been more efficient.

I will also add that the left, it seems to me, is becoming so radicalized (identity politics, balkanization, hate/race baiting, etc.) I find myself in full knee-jerk reaction. It's not a good place to be, as I typically consider myself open minded.

We are in extremely divisive and highly charged times, where even those of us who understand the play book of divide and conquer sometimes fall prey and get sucked in if we're not careful.


I agree with T. Smith here.

It's not about Left versus Right partisan politics, it's about which side of the political establishment The Powers That Be have groomed most recently for their most pressing agendas.

And right now it is the Left that has been groomed via Talvastock University agendas to break down the nation so that we crawl on our hands and knees and beg for a solution when the New World Agenda of a one world Government is offered to us.

The Bush regime of 2001 did their damage, but the fools who do not know the truth and lived according to simple understandings are no longer useful with a left agenda being sought.

Just because Kavanaugh was a useful pawn for right leaning New World Order agendas of the past doesn't mean he would be useful for left leaning New World Order agendas of the future.



And to answer Dennis's question earlier, it isn't about Left versus Right, it's about who the elite are elevating for pushing their agendas, and at this moment it is the Left being used for globalism as such my knee jerk reaction is to go Right. You dig? It isn't that hard.

[Pam]

As I noted on an earlier post on this thread, the person(s) best suited to be on the USSC was not even under consideration. Who is that person? There are many.

But, in my view, for any of us to have vetted Kavanaugh objectively would be an exercise in futility. We have no influence, zero, none, in the decision-making process with respect to who is to be considered for any positions in federal government; so too for state and city government.

She was not supposed to lose. None of this was supposed to be happening. It was supposed to be people with leanings desired by Killary et al. who are supposed to be elevated to the USSC and hold cabinet level positions, etc... But she did lose. Yet, they want to obtain results that would have occurred had she not lost. They are ignoring the political realities because they don't like the outcomes. They are very nervous.

They will split the country in two if they have to. We, the people, cannot allow that to happen. We must toss aside the petty bickering and do not take the bait on faux issues designed to keep us divided and conquered.

What we do need to be objective about is our research and discernment. We need to come to conclusions based on right versus wrong, good versus evil, not left versus right, or Dem versus Repub.

That's all I've got to say about that.

Beautifully stated, Satori. Speaking from your accurate perceptions, we might look at the way they chose to "oppose" the Kavenaugh nomination as a very carefully chosen method. I, too, have been shaking my head at the self destructive nature of this pathetic drama as though the democrats lack self control, but it may really be part of the bigger picture. What better way but to continue the division they are throwing at us. It comes from every direction, pitting us against each other over everything they can: race, gender, political affiliation...we really do need to see the bigger picture, and Brett Kavenaugh has just been a prop.

[Helene West]

To make sure the american public never get a chance to grasp any big pic, we must have DRAMA.

And here is the next installment - DNC chair Tom Perez addressing the public to contribute $3 to a fund for Revenge Against Republicans for the kavanaugh confirmation:

"Here is one thing we've learned from the Brett Kavanaugh fight: We can never, ever, trust congressional Republicans to stand up to Donald Trump.

In just 30 days, we have a chance to elect Democratic majorities in Congress -- and for the sake of our democracy, we must.

If you're able, make a $3 donation right now to make Republicans pay a price for Brett Kavanaugh:

It's not enough to get mad, Clinton -- we have to beat the Republicans who rammed this nomination through. Time and time again, Republicans have shown that they can't be trusted to stand up to the Trump administration on a single thing.

So it really is this simple: If we don't want people like Brett Kavanaugh to be appointed to lifetime positions in our federal judiciary, we need to elect Democratic majorities this November.

Democrats only need to flip two Senate seats this November to win control of the Senate and make sure Trump can't ram through any more judges like Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

Donate $3 right now to throw out the GOP this November.

Thank you,

Tom"

[ramus]

An anti-Trump professor, Dr. Carol Christine Fair, is no longer teaching classes at Georgetown University following calls for the outspoken liberal educator to be fired.

Fair stirred up controversy on Twitter when she wished miserable deaths upon Republican senators supporting Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

“Look at [this] chorus of entitled white men justifying a serial rapist’s arrogated entitlement,” she wrote. “All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminists laugh as they take their last gasps. Bonus: we castrate their corpses and feed them to swine? Yes.”

Her account was de-verified and temporarily suspended Tuesday for violating Twitter’s rules, but until Friday, the university had taken no action against the controversial professor.

A Georgetown spokesperson told Fox News Fair is no longer teaching students, but will be traveling internationally for university research.
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This is what we have teaching our kids ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, where have we gone....... sign of the times, what a shame.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/05/georgetown-professor-no-longer-teaching-after-profane-tweet-about-kavanaugh-supporters/?link=TD_marketwatch_home_page.83461b39d1bfc251&utm_source=marketwatch_home_page.83461b39d1bfc251&utm_campaign=circular&utm_medium=NYPOST

[Dennis Leahy]

...
And to answer Dennis's question earlier, it isn't about Left versus Right, it's about who the elite are elevating for pushing their agendas, and at this moment it is the Left being used for globalism as such my knee jerk reaction is to go Right. You dig? It isn't that hard.
Playing within the (artificially applied) constraints of the duopoly, yes, I am very familiar with the duopoly passing the ugly stick back and forth. They have done it my entire life. It's not like the d or the r gang isn't ugly all the time, it's just that whichever one is holding the ugly stick appears uglier.

Caught like a rat in a T-intersection of a maze, the mouse runs left or right - never thinking of climbing a wall, turning around, chewing through a wall, burrowing down, (the metaphor is a bit thin, but the mouse doesn't have to go left OR right, there are always other options.) Maybe a better visualization is a rat at a T-intersection that is unaware that the paths converge right after the intersection, or that when the rat goes left, they fall down a hole and spiral down to the left and fall into the boiling water and the rats that go right fall down a hole and spiral down to the right and fall into the boiling water.

I am a rat that turned around, and am studying that fateful T-intersection to see how me and my fellow rats can avoid going where malevolent scientists with white coats and clipboards tell us to go. Einstein's definition of insanity is ringing in my ears.


p.s. Forgive my 'rat' and 'mouse' random substitutions in the allegories/metaphors.

[AriG]

Woa! Where am I?? Haven't looked at the forum for a bit.

You know guys, here's the thing that everyone is forgetting. It doesn't matter!

Getting emotionally hijacked about the the outcome of Act 5 billion Scene CE 2018 is tantamount to people sacrificing their DNA to the CIA (Ancestry.com) because they want to know who they are and where they came from! As if their meatsuit defined their consciousness!

This entire experience in this reality is a very sophisticated holograph. We are playing a sophisticated virtual reality game and yes, there is a lot of injustice, pain, cruelty, and unspeakable acts, as things currently stand there is nothing anyone can do about it because the game has been hijacked. It has a virus. The only way to fix this is to stop participating and giving energy to the constructs of the hijackers ( politicians, media, hollywood, the boobtube, all of it) and put our thought energy and our actions into manifesting the reality that we want. It doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or which side of the same coin is in office. As long as you focus on it, the virus responds in turn with giving you more of it. Why? The virus program only recognizes thoughts - not your perceptions. Just thoughts. Same with words. An evil virus program cannot feel and has no empathy, so it will never know your intent.

The only way to get what you want is to think about what you want and never what you don't. If and when the majority of players in this game start doing that, the virus will starve and die.

And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done. A diversion.

[Helene West]

Woa! Where am I?? Haven't looked at the forum for a bit.

And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done. A diversion.

How come you sage beings from Holograph Central never have "a bit of constructive criticism" for Trump Haters? lol. it's always for trump supporters! And you never hear that so many say time and again we didn't vote for trump, we voted against clinton. Oh yeah, I forgot, "It Doesn't Matter!" but nevermind, I'm just a troglodyte from the material world that will never get it...

[AriG]

How come you sage beings from Holograph Central never have "a bit of constructive criticism" for Trump Haters? lol. it's always for trump supporters! And you never hear that so many say time and again we didn't vote for trump, we voted against clinton. Oh yeah, I forgot, "It Doesn't Matter!" but nevermind, I'm just a troglodyte from the material world that will never get it...

I am neither a Trump Hater or a Trump supporter. I was merely trying to point out that by focusing on a political system that still remains unchanged, you get more of it. When I said that Trump was no different, I was correct. He will still do as he is told as have all the other sock puppet presidents.

And Helene West, your post perfectly illustrates my point, thank you. Hate. Focusing on hate results in more hate. I am no woo-woo new ager. This is science. The program (flawed) rewards you with more of what you focus upon. It is programmed that way. Doesn't matter if a person is for a thing or against a thing. That person and ultimately the rest of the players in the game will get more of the thing getting all the attention.

Hope this clear it up. Thanks.

[ThePythonicCow]

... I am finding myself dreaming that the two sage and scientific posters just above me would each enjoy a cup of calming tea, or whatever equivalent they prefer :)

[ThePythonicCow]

James Howard Kuntsler, in this new post (http://kunstler.com/clusterf%75ck-nation/aftermath-as-prologue/), has a good description of what happened with the Kavanaugh nomination and its relationship to other unraveling corruption in Washington, DC:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aftermath as Prologue

James Howard Kuntsler, October 8, 2018

“I believe her!”

Really? Why should anyone believe her?

Senator Collins of Maine said she believed that Dr. Christine Blasey Ford experienced something traumatic, just not at the hands of Mr. Kavanaugh. I believe Senator Collins said that to placate the #Metoo mob, not because she actually believed it. I believe Christine Blasey Ford was lying, through and through, in her injured little girl voice, like a bad imitation of Truman Capote.

I believe that the Christine Blasey Ford gambit was an extension of the sinister activities underway since early 2016 in the Department of Justice and the FBI to un-do the last presidential election, and that the real and truthful story about these seditious monkeyshines is going to blow wide open.

It turns out that the Deep State is a small world. Did you know that the lawyer sitting next to Dr. Ford in the Senate hearings, one Michael Bromwich, is also an attorney for Andrew McCabe, the former FBI Deputy Director fired for lying to investigators from his own agency and currently singing to a grand jury? What a coincidence. Out of all the lawyers in the most lawyer-infested corner of the USA, she just happened to hook up with him.

It’s a matter of record that Dr. Ford traveled to Rehobeth Beach Delaware on July 26, where her Best Friend Forever and former room-mate, Monica McLean, lives, and that she spent the next four days there before sending a letter July 30 to Senator Diane Feinstein that kicked off the “sexual assault” circus. Did you know that Monica McClean was a retired FBI special agent, and that she worked in the US Attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York under Preet Bharara, who had earlier worked for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer?

Could Monica McLean have spent those four days in July helping Christine Blasey Ford compose her letter to Mrs. Feinstein? Did you know that Monica McClean’s lawyer, one David Laufman is a former DOJ top lawyer who assisted former FBI counter-intel chief Peter Strozk on both the Clinton and Russia investigations before resigning in February this year — in fact, he sat in on the notorious “unsworn” interview with Hillary in 2016. Wow! What a really small swamp Washington is!

Did you know that Ms. Leland Keyser, Dr. Ford’s previous BFF from back in the Holton Arms prep school, told the final round of FBI investigators in the Kavanaugh hearing last week — as reported by the The Wall Street Journal — that she “felt pressured” by Monica McLean and her representatives to change her story — that she knew nothing about the alleged sexual assault, or the alleged party where it allegedly happened, or that she ever knew Mr. Kavanaugh. I think that’s called suborning perjury.

None of this is trivial and the matter can’t possibly rest there. Too much of it has been unraveled by what remains of the news media. And meanwhile, of course, there is at least one grand jury listening to testimony from the whole cast-of-characters behind the botched Hillary investigation and Robert Mueller’s ever more dubious-looking Russian collusion inquiry: the aforementioned Strozk, Lisa Page, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bill Priestap, et. al. I have a feeling that these matters are now approaching critical mass with the parallel unraveling of the Christine Blasey Ford “story.”

The Democratic Party has its fingerprints all over this, as it does with the shenanigans over the Russia investigation. Not only do I not believe Dr. Ford’s story; I also don’t believe she acted on her own in this shady business. What’s happening with all these FBI and DOJ associated lawyers is an obvious circling of the wagons. They’ve generated too much animus in the process and they’re going to get nailed. These matters are far from over and a major battle is looming in the countdown to the midterm elections. In fact, op-ed writer Charles M. Blow sounded the trumpet Monday morning in his idiotic column titled: Liberals, This is War (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/07/opinion/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage). Like I’ve been saying: Civil War Two.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[DNA]

Playing within the (artificially applied) constraints of the duopoly, yes, I am very familiar with the duopoly passing the ugly stick back and forth. They have done it my entire life. It's not like the d or the r gang isn't ugly all the time, it's just that whichever one is holding the ugly stick appears uglier.
Caught like a rat in a T-intersection of a maze, the mouse runs left or right - never thinking of climbing a wall, turning around, chewing through a wall, burrowing down, (the metaphor is a bit thin, but the mouse doesn't have to go left OR right, there are always other options.)


This won't work. I've heard this metaphor spit several times and I used to spit it myself.

It doesn't work anymore.

Your metaphor advocates for good men to do nothing.

Or almost as bad, good men to do almost nothing.

My suggestion would be this.

Identify the enemy and cultivate the enemy's opposition through grooming and truth.

After 9/11 it would have been advantageous to align oneself with the left regardless of inconsequential differences and foster protests to what was going on.

The problem with 9/11 was it took a lot of us by surprise and by the time we realized absolutely that it was an inside job we were too late to do anything.

Right now we are looking at 9/11 level social engineering and for those who can see it, it is now the left being used to leverage this social engineering.

As such now is the time to align oneself with the right and cultivate the right though whatever means possible to help prevent the desired effects the elite are looking to elicit by using and inciting the left. In other words, we must fight the pawn army of the elite are go down the same road we did with 9/11. And right now the pawn army is the left.

[Helene West]

How come you sage beings from Holograph Central never have "a bit of constructive criticism" for Trump Haters? lol. it's always for trump supporters! And you never hear that so many say time and again we didn't vote for trump, we voted against clinton. Oh yeah, I forgot, "It Doesn't Matter!" but nevermind, I'm just a troglodyte from the material world that will never get it...

I am neither a Trump Hater or a Trump supporter. I was merely trying to point out that by focusing on a political system that still remains unchanged, you get more of it. When I said that Trump was no different, I was correct. He will still do as he is told as have all the other sock puppet presidents.

And Helene West, your post perfectly illustrates my point, thank you. Hate. Focusing on hate results in more hate. I am no woo-woo new ager. This is science. The program (flawed) rewards you with more of what you focus upon. It is programmed that way. Doesn't matter if a person is for a thing or against a thing. That person and ultimately the rest of the players in the game will get more of the thing getting all the attention.

Hope this clear it up. Thanks.

Glad I helped illustrate your point whatever it was. At least I'm apparently useful for something. You do realize when you stated:

"..And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done."

that you were singling out a particular group on the forum for your condescension, I mean your "constructive criticism". Especially strange since you as did the rest of the country watch non-trump supporters recently in hysterics and very mean-spirited behavior. Anyhow, small matter.

[waves]

AriG, you don't need any calming tea. Sorry I'm a few posts late thanking you for injecting those 2 posts with the voice of reason, I was going to include a warning that you brace yourself for spitballs.

But no amount of tea will prevent more from the snooty quick responders Avalon is now overrun with - like someone with no ability to intelligently discuss VR but jumps on the excuse to play the victim and spit contempt with "How come you sage beings from Holograph Central..."....at you.


Woa! Where am I?? Haven't looked at the forum for a bit.

You're right, a 'wakefulness' perspective has been replaced with great amounts of overposting and sanctimonious opinionating by a tiresome few. I think it's a really bad omen that they are just as militantly oblivious to the propagandizing/manipulation/corruption reality of 'their' side as the scary leftists they decry and certainly do not keep the bigger picture in mind for a supposedly awake forum.

I've been guilty of playing along with the drama as if it mattered for finding some of the games intriguing and think there's a place for discussing current events, but really would prefer if they were discussed with the VR of it all in mind somehow too. But since it's not going to happen anywhere political here soon....


... It doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or which side of the same coin is in office. As long as you focus on it, the virus responds in turn with giving you more of it. Why? The virus program only recognizes thoughts - not your perceptions. Just thoughts. Same with words. An evil virus program cannot feel and has no empathy, so it will never know your intent....

I find what you've characterized as a virus interesting - any chance you want to start a thread about that? I've been learning about AI's and what you're calling a virus is very similar to a capability that AI's can apparently have.

[apokalypse]

As The Daily Wire reports, Ginsburg could not remember the contents of the 14th Amendment as she spoke to a gathering of the National Women’s Party in late August, requiring a member of the audience to supply her with a pocket copy of the Constitution to jar her memory.

Ginsburg, 76 at the time, chose the treatment because of the high fatality rate linked to pancreatic cancer. But as Chemotherapy News reported in February, she gave an “embarrassing” interview to CNN’s Poppy Harlow in which she demonstrated a “total inability to collect her thoughts and formulate coherent responses to Harlow’s questions.”

The news site noted further:

While it might be tempting to write Ginsburg’s incoherence and inability to formulate her thoughts off as the ravages of old age, if one examines her behavior closely it becomes obvious that she is suffering from what is known as “chemo-brain.”

Whatever the cause, it’s becoming obvious that at some point she may have to be removed from the bench because she no longer demonstrates the mental capacity to serve.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-10-07-chemotherapy-has-harmed-ruth-bader-ginsburg-brain.html

new cycles everyone...what's the best popcorn out there? Preview Next Season of DC: battle for supreme court continues

[Bill Ryan]

AriG, you don't need any calming tea.

No, she doesn't. :)

Ari has been a member for over 6 years, with over 720 posts to her name. They're easy to search for and find. She'd been away for a while, and had just returned. She told us (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104440-Kavanaugh-Hearings-a-National-Disgrace&p=1253016&viewfull=1#post1253016).

If this is how we treat our own, we may have some serious inner work to do.

Here's a thought to consider. Some of us passionately want a better society (whichever country we live in!) — one with fairness, justice, and goodwill.

So how come some of those people can't make positive contributions to create that same quality here?

If someone acts like a demeaning, belittling totalitarian, just because they're compelled to defend their opinion, they'd have a shock if that's what they woke up and saw in the streets one day. Do think about that.

I'll say this once again. Someone could be passionately defending that the sky is blue (or that the Earth is round :) ). It's HOW they do that that matters.

Otherwise, we're all fighting violently for peace. And fighting each other, too. No-one here is the enemy. Do please think about that as well.
* Helene West has been blocked from this thread, and one of the mods has written to her. (Not blocked from the forum. She can post anything she likes, anywhere else that she likes.)
:focus:

[apokalypse]

seriously guys...who think Ford is a victim of assault or rape? just talked to victim of molested when she was around that age...she really believe in ford and hate people saying not believe in ford especially memory lost. so many victim said same thing believe in her stories or find ford credible.

pretty much give up talking to her about this subject of ford...i don't know what to say regarding she being victim.

[AriG]

Glad I helped illustrate your point whatever it was. At least I'm apparently useful for something. You do realize when you stated:

"..And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done."

that you were singling out a particular group on the forum for your condescension, I mean your "constructive criticism". Especially strange since you as did the rest of the country watch non-trump supporters recently in hysterics and very mean-spirited behavior. Anyhow, small matter.

Helene West,

I am so humbly sorry that I failed to write my post as it should have been written. Alas, as a flawed Trog myself, I didn't consider how one reference might have been perceived. What i should have said was Trump Supporters AND Trump Adversaries. It did appear polarized and was definitely not my intent. I am truly sorry to have angered you. I know that things are uncertain and scary right now. But hopefully, with cooperation, all of us here in the US will be able to move beyond this ugly period and arrive at a place of reconciliation and peace. I truly think we all want the same things. Not only in the US, but world wide.

[AriG]

I find what you've characterized as a virus interesting - any chance you want to start a thread about that? I've been learning about AI's and what you're calling a virus is very similar to a capability that AI's can apparently have.

Waves,

Thank you for your kind words and support. Hmmm. A Thread. Well, I could argue that by doing so, I would be giving power to the virus. But I will say this briefly and if anyone else wants to take it and start a thread, i am fine with it:

DNA - deoxyribonucleic acid - a blue print for life

RNA - ribonucleic acid - a more maleable form of a molecule that can be progammed.



Project all of that onto a green screen (aka, the rock upon which we live and the universe that encompasses it) and viola!

Just my armchair opinion of course ;)

Thanks again for all your kind words! They mean a lot!

Oh, and AI - I personally see it as a Tower of Babel sort of thing. A Hologram trying to be THE Hologram. IMHO.

[onawah]

I definitely don't want to derail the thread, especially now as I am feeling very hopeful abut the direction it's going in, but I also don't want the info in this post to be forgotten. If George Webb's assertions are true and can be corroborated, I think they really need to be, as if true, it's very important evidence of Deep State corruption (possibly not just one faction, as well). The video is worth your time if you haven't watched it. The notes from Alexandra Bruce don't really do it justice. Thanks.
The Accusers Are the Conspirators
10/7/18
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-accusers-are-the-conspirators/
"The reason they chop it all into a million pieces ( the data) is to CONFUSE you!"...George Webb
PhaaE3tT7S8
"For George Webb, it seems that all roads lead to Andy McCabe and for the first time here, he reveals a bit more about his status as a (FBI?) whistleblower.

For years, George has been on McCabe's trail, way back when the latter was involved in blackmailing operations; bringing girls over from Eastern Europe to beach house parties and parties on yachts with VIPs. The girls would be surreptitiously drugged with scopolamine and McCabe would secretly film targeted people engaging in sexually abusive behavior in order to compromise them. George said he was physically present to observe this activity – and the cameras on at least three occasions, in three different cities.

George says that these compromise operations were the specialty of McCabe and Comey, who rarely solved crimes; instead, they slow-walked documents and pinned crimes on innocent people.

George says the FBI ran an operation every year at a beach house to collect dirt on people. Often, these "parties" would be held at Trump hotel properties. He says Julie Swetnick, the Kavanaugh gang-rape accuser was a recruiter of young girls for these operations, as was FBI agent an DOJ official, Monica McLean – the same Monica McLean who is the life-long best friend of Christine Blasey Ford, who the latter coached to help her pass her polygraph in order to get hired for her FBI job, way back when, according to Ford's ex-boyfriend.

It's the same Monnica McLean of whom Ford's other friend, Leland Kyser complained had pressured her to alter testimony that she had no recollection of the fateful party or of ever having met Brett Kavanaugh. Ford has claimed that Kyser was present and Kyser denies it.

"It's a very small enclave within the FBI but it's actually the CIA trying to get in there," says George. Everything becomes clear and easy to understand when you see that the modus operandi of these people is that the "conspirators do the accusing." He says he almost wishes that the Kavanaugh hearings had lasted for two years because they helped to reveal so much.

George explains that Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is officially a partnership between various law enforcement agencies is in reality "a cover for drug operations." He explains that this was exactly how the Phoenix Operation worked in Vietnam. As with GHW Bush's Zapata Oil Company, all major drug- and human trafficking operations involve oil platforms and helicopters, because nobody ever suspects or stops these helicopters.

As he signs off, George mentions that Trump's order to declassify the FISA warrants were still being processed and that National Security Director, Dan Coates was to sign off on them but they apparently hadn't hit his desk yet, which George takes to be "a very bad sign because it means it hasn't gone anywhere off of Rod Rosenstein's desk." "

(I don't know much about George Webb. Anyone? update: I see BaBaRa posted some info about him here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1244791&viewfull=1#post1244791) He's all over the place in the video I posted here, covering many more subjects than I am familiar with, but the info relating to Kavanaugh's accusers is certainly riveting. )

[Valerie Villars]

There is a part of me that knows we have been hijacked by a virus.

If that is true, I believe we were sent here to identify it and heal it.

As Bill so eloquently said (he's almost always eloquent) we are all here fighting for peace, together.

[NancyV]

Woa! Where am I?? Haven't looked at the forum for a bit.

You know guys, here's the thing that everyone is forgetting. It doesn't matter!

Getting emotionally hijacked about the the outcome of Act 5 billion Scene CE 2018 is tantamount to people sacrificing their DNA to the CIA (Ancestry.com) because they want to know who they are and where they came from! As if their meatsuit defined their consciousness!
If "It doesn't matter" then neither does donating your DNA to the CIA matter. If "It doesn't matter" then nothing really matters.

I agree with you. It doesn't matter. However you have expressed one side of the equation only. Some people reach the realization that it doesn't matter, usually after a spiritual or philosophical awakening. Often when one reaches the point of realizing that nothing in this duality matters they look for something that does matter... God, the Source, something...anything.

If they travel through the dimensions and merge with the Source/God, they may also find out that none of that matters either. Of course I can only speak for myself that in my many years of traveling through the dimensions and merging with the Source I realized that in addition to "It doesn't matter" is the opposite truth... It ALL matters. The moment my consciousness exits from Source I am in dimensions of duality, opposites exist in all dimensions in smaller or larger degrees of intensity, depending on the vibrational frequency of the dimension.

In this earth dimension where the vibrational frequency is "slow", opposites exist with more intensity. So actually it is PERFECT that we humans feel things intensely... and it doesn't matter. What is imbalanced is leaning too far to one side or another, too far to love or too far to hate... but imbalanced doesn't mean wrong.

I had a choice (as we all do) to either leave this world and stay in other dimensions or with Source, or stay here and live this life of duality. After I decided to stay, I tried the peace/love trip until I realized how imbalanced it was and that it led to judgment of others just as much as anyone else who had established an intensely emotional viewpoint of the world, politics, etc. Even as you say "it doesn't matter" you are judging those who don't know, as ignorant, and you may be trying to enlighten them. Actually everyone is a perfect part of the Source and exactly where they are supposed to be at this time and all times.

We get to interpret good and evil in the way we see them in our present evolution. We can choose to fight against what we see as evil or we get to be evil or we get to do nothing....because we know that none of it matters. But at the same time it does matter. These two apparent dichotomies are not mutually exclusive. Both can exist concurrently.

This entire experience in this reality is a very sophisticated holograph. We are playing a sophisticated virtual reality game and yes, there is a lot of injustice, pain, cruelty, and unspeakable acts, as things currently stand there is nothing anyone can do about it because the game has been hijacked. It has a virus. The only way to fix this is to stop participating and giving energy to the constructs of the hijackers ( politicians, media, hollywood, the boobtube, all of it) and put our thought energy and our actions into manifesting the reality that we want. It doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or which side of the same coin is in office. As long as you focus on it, the virus responds in turn with giving you more of it. Why? The virus program only recognizes thoughts - not your perceptions. Just thoughts. Same with words. An evil virus program cannot feel and has no empathy, so it will never know your intent.

The only way to get what you want is to think about what you want and never what you don't. If and when the majority of players in this game start doing that, the virus will starve and die.
Nope, not buying the "evil virus program". I never give evil that much power. You, of course, are welcome to believe that you are the victim of an evil virus program, but this view may just disempower you. You are also welcome to believe that we must get a majority of players in this game to have similar beliefs in order to affect change. I prefer to know that I can affect any change for me that I choose to create without having to convince others of my theories. Perhaps everything going on right now is perfect for our highest learning.


And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done. A diversion.
LOL... I actually find Trump to be refreshingly different. He's definitely more of an A-hole than any other president we've had in my lifetime (71 years), but then he just lets it all hang out. I appreciate that he is not politically correct. I see that he has done more good for the country, and faster, than all other presidents I can think of...... and it doesn't matter ultimately, but it does matter in this game at this time and I am having fun playing the game.

[Pam]

seriously guys...who think Ford is a victim of assault or rape? just talked to victim of molested when she was around that age...she really believe in ford and hate people saying not believe in ford especially memory lost. so many victim said same thing believe in her stories or find ford credible.

pretty much give up talking to her about this subject of ford...i don't know what to say regarding she being victim.

I don't think the point is whether I believe her or not. The point is that when you make a public accusation for all the world to see, one that could ruin someone's life, you better have proof if you want to have anything come of it. We can not punish someone for a crime (allegedly) if we can not prove it happened. This isn't about her being believable, it's about whether she has enough proof that we can believe what she is claiming happened beyond reasonable doubt. This doesn't need to have an emotional response, this requires logic and common sense. At this time, that is the best response we can have to accusations of wrong doing.

[Pam]

Woa! Where am I?? Haven't looked at the forum for a bit.

You know guys, here's the thing that everyone is forgetting. It doesn't matter!

Getting emotionally hijacked about the the outcome of Act 5 billion Scene CE 2018 is tantamount to people sacrificing their DNA to the CIA (Ancestry.com) because they want to know who they are and where they came from! As if their meatsuit defined their consciousness!

This entire experience in this reality is a very sophisticated holograph. We are playing a sophisticated virtual reality game and yes, there is a lot of injustice, pain, cruelty, and unspeakable acts, as things currently stand there is nothing anyone can do about it because the game has been hijacked. It has a virus. The only way to fix this is to stop participating and giving energy to the constructs of the hijackers ( politicians, media, hollywood, the boobtube, all of it) and put our thought energy and our actions into manifesting the reality that we want. It doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or which side of the same coin is in office. As long as you focus on it, the virus responds in turn with giving you more of it. Why? The virus program only recognizes thoughts - not your perceptions. Just thoughts. Same with words. An evil virus program cannot feel and has no empathy, so it will never know your intent.

The only way to get what you want is to think about what you want and never what you don't. If and when the majority of players in this game start doing that, the virus will starve and die.

And just a bit of constructive criticism to Trump Supporters - you may think he's different, but he's not. Just repackaged as a response to all the good consciousness work being done. A diversion.

I really appreciate your post AriG. The only thing I differ with you on, if I understand you correctly, is that our actions don't matter. I believe that we should take action, if we deem action necessary, to the best of our ability and not be tied to a specific outcome. The action has more to do with me than changing things. If we can fully participate in it and enjoy it as the kind of show that it is without becoming attached and inmeshed to the outcome, I think that is the best scenario. Am I able to do that at all times, no, but that is my goal.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm closing this thread. The hearings are over. And @DNA: Marcus, please read this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1253222&viewfull=1#post1253222) again. Maybe several times. :)

What you posted above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104440-Kavanaugh-Hearings-a-National-Disgrace&p=1253223&viewfull=1#post1253223) was several degrees beyond anything that was remotely okay. You can argue passionately that Trump (or Kavanaugh, or 'Q'!) is an angel with wings. Or, that he's a satanic child-eater.

But, you can't treat other members like this.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm closing this thread. The hearings are over. And @DNA: Marcus, please read this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1253222&viewfull=1#post1253222) again. Maybe several times. :)

What you posted above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104440-Kavanaugh-Hearings-a-National-Disgrace&p=1253223&viewfull=1#post1253223) was several degrees beyond anything that was remotely okay. You can argue passionately that Trump (or Kavanaugh, or 'Q'!) is an angel with wings. Or, that he's a satanic child-eater.

But, you can't treat other members like this.

Edit to add:

DNA/Marcus has asked the mods to delete his post that was immediately above, swearing that he was going to do it himself (but of course he now couldn't). He apologized sincerely. Kudos to him. That's cool, and we appreciate it. We'll keep the thread closed, though, as it had indeed become rather a hot bed.

Respect to all. And to reiterate, less there should be any misunderstanding or misinterpretation, we never for a moment intended (or wished) Helene to leave. But everyone has to make their own decisions, and she may very well have needed a break. We wish her well.

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