Hey Google, Who is Jesus Christ?

[Valerie Villars]

The answer will surprise you. Then again, maybe not.

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[Did You See Them]

Will try this out tonight !

[Eagle Eye]

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[Foxie Loxie]

Val, I've already been down the "Jesus Road" & was thankful to find, here on Avalon, the historical facts about why this Christianity System does not "work".

I was pleased to find a more factual picture of the "system" & where it came from...especially since it had ruined my entire life!! Here on Avalon I learned that I am an Eternal, Sovereign Being!!

Who knew?!! :clapping:

[Valerie Villars]

The eye opener for me on the above video is that AI is de-platforming Jesus, whereas Buddha, Mohammed and Allah all have a platform. That is censorship.

I wonder what the answer would be to "Hey Google, who is Alex Jones?" He probably doesn't exist either.

[Carmody]

It does not surprise me at all. Might get a different answer if the language, demographic, and location is changed? (according to the IP of the person asking).

This goes back to control structures and the councils of Nicaea.

Seriously. Rome, the emperors, early Christianity, and how the power structure of Rome took control of Early Christianity and inserted their own interpretations into the 'religion'.

Where paganism was overlaid into a purposely editorialized early Christianity.

Early Christianity had Christ as a man, likened to Buddha, Mohamed and so on. Just a man in a better mental and psychological space. The end.

the Romans deified him and used that weaponization tactic as a trojan vehicle to undercut and control the emergent religion of Christianity..and then in combination with the Paganism they already had, the whole thing became the Christianity thing it is today.. But he was a man with a stance and a bit of teachings. the end.

People forget, and they adopt and dance to the new tune as this is part of the package of how people learn. To avoid the problem of not enough intellect --as..the body uses intellect as a temporary energy consuming peak moment of avatar skill sets - -and instead....instinctualizes and takes on most data as a reality and act of mimicking. Seriously. We witness children doing this all the time, they adopt, they don't think it out. Otherwise we as complex physical and mental structures, would not be able to operate in culture and society. We mimic, adopt, copy, repeat and instinctualize... as a fundamental part of how the avatar body/mind functions.

We are literally wired so that intellectual musing is the smallest part of the existence of humans... as it is a energy consuming peak exercise designed for peak moments of danger to the body. It rises up, thinks furiously, finds an answer, generally the first answer....and then it shuts down. If you pay attention, you can feel and witness it happening inside yourself.

The majority is always wrong (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNGFep6rncY)

Then the Talmud of Judaism. Looks like the power structure of the times for Judaism learned the trick all too well, and in around 900 ad, about a solid 600+ years after the paganism and Christianity blending, the Talmud emerged and displaced the Torah. (IIRC, my history on this one is a bit weak, here, but the creation of the Talmud and the displacement of the torah did indeed occur)

Throughout time, these aspects of how the human body works, have been used to establish a behavioral, observational, and societal and culture based 'shift' in the given group. The mechanism of intellect, learning and normalization and how the human body operates in these areas, has been purposely integrated into system of culture and societal programming.

Goebbels learned the trick quite well and in another 50 years, if they had managed it... no one in Europe would know or even understand how to act any differently, by now. Nazism would be fully established and normalized as a form of instinctual behavior, by now.

Basically, if they can hold a forced pattern long enough, the way the human body works, causes the given desired scenario to be taken on as the given system of existence in the given locale. the desired state or condition becomes normalized and the reasons for the objections literally get lost from the record and the minds and bodies involved.

We see it every day.

Back in the very early 00's of the world (o to 100 ad), and in the area of Rome and the empire, this forced condition managed to hang on long enough, that the history of the blending of the paganism with 'Christ as a man' were all lost to the common memory of humanity and this pagan deity thing was taken on wholesale as a instinctual societal and cultural programming system.

The power structure of china is working on a mammoth one right now. (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-social-credit)

The people who control the locale of Palestine, and call it Israel, have been working tirelessly for the past 70+ years to create or force the concept of Israel into the common record of instinctual behaviors, in that area, and for the world's record.

Coca-cola and the corporations involved, created Santa Claus and Christmas in the continental USA, Canada and so on, in this exact same way. Constant repetition and it becomes established and factualized, via the mechanism of ego, body, mental wiring design, and so on. (over time via this body programming thing we all do in order to create cohesive functional cultures and societies)

(your next questions should be: are we an artificially created avatar, a modified one, or is this a natural condition of how humans emerged? Is emergence as humans a natural, or manipulated thing? An important question, as in our peak technology that exists today in the area of genetics and knowledge of the avatar...WE CAN DO THIS EXACT THING TODAY. This is why the idea of us being someone else's creation can now openly take place as the technology behind such a thing is now, openly, on display..as being very very real.)

If you ask Google or Sir these questions about Christ, you hit the nail of the dilemma squarely on the head and you get this confusion, and it has this huge, impossibly difficult history behind it.

That's why neither Siri nor Google Assistant can give you an answer, as it comes down to what I've just said. The record and how it is served up to you, get all messed up and exposed.

[Foxie Loxie]

Right on, Carmody!!! Thanks! :blackwidow:

[petra]

I asked Google to define Jesus and here is what I got.
Definition #2 is particularly amusing :)

[Valerie Villars]

That is funny, Petra. Poor Jesus. Now he's just an exclamation.

[Carmody]

This question is also at the heart and is one of the fundamental reasons behind the attempt to normalize and stabilize Russophobia. repeat, repeat, repeat, etc. For as long as it takes for the kids to grow up and learn it as a real thing,and for the adults to forget and instinctualize into themselves. Time and repetition. It's how you brainwash and break people.

Putin has re-established Russian orthodox Christianity in Russia, and the surrounding locales he can reach. It has Christ as a man, with a wife, and so on. Like the original works that the people or whatever was running Rome at the time, had demolished in the early AD years.

IIRC, Putin has rebuilt some 7000 Russian orthodox churches. He's trying to make it bomb proof and ubiquitous throughout the locale.

He's a incredibly serious threat to a 2000+ year old power, manipulation and control structure.

The longer Russia and those churches exist, the greater the buildup and intensity and normalized threat ---to the hidden Western power elite system.

The problem with orthodoxy....is that Christ as a man, eventually turns the power back into human individualism and away from centralized power structures. It de-commoditizes the given people and society over time... it makes them independent thinkers, again.

[Carmody]

I asked Google to define Jesus and here is what I got.
Definition #2 is particularly amusing :)


Jebus! (the Simpsons... and... an ancient word involving Jerusalem)

You are in Canada, and Collins dictionary is from the UK, based in Glasgow.

The answer in the USA, might be quite different, depending on who is searching and how google has wired itself for that locale and the given person involved.

[spade]

The eye opener for me on the above video is that AI is de-platforming Jesus, whereas Buddha, Mohammed and Allah all have a platform. That is censorship.

I wonder what the answer would be to "Hey Google, who is Alex Jones?" He probably doesn't exist either.

So in essence, are they censoring the truth? That would mean that Buddha, Mohammed and Allah are all lies? :tape2::tape::shocked::secret::idea:

[petra]

I asked Google to define Jesus and here is what I got.
Definition #2 is particularly amusing :)


Jebus! (the Simpsons... and... an ancient word involving Jerusalem)

You are in Canada, and Collins dictionary is from the UK, based in Glasgow.

The answer in the USA, might be quite different, depending on who is searching and how google has wired itself for that locale and the given person involved.

I prefer Merriam Webster personally :) They left out the exclamation, lol

I might as well say, I'm guilty of using Jesus name as an exclamation. That exclamation has worked itself into every day language so much I just can't stop saying it. Same thing with the F word.
My solution is to excuse myself afterward, so we have a new word: "Jesuscuseme" :)

[scotslad]

Just tried that...

The google spoken result here in Scotland via Google voice -

"According to Wikipedia, AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Christ, was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader. He is the central figure of Christianity. "

Have you tried ASKING google....

"Who is Emery Smith?"

"Who is David Wilcock?"

"what was Emily Smiths response to David Wilcox resignation from gaia?"

"What was the equation given to George Van Tassel?"

"What was the highbridge incident?"

Interestingly.....

"What was the Robert Taylor Incident?"

OK, Coffee break over. Back to work...

;)

[Daozen]

This is what I get from Taiwan... Carmody is right, different answers from different coutries:

I typed: who is jesus christ




AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Christ, was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader. He is the central figure of Christianity. Most Christians believe he is the incarnation of God the Son and the awaited Messiah (Christ) prophesied in the Old Testament.

[Valerie Villars]

Well, this post has turned out to be way more interesting than I originally thought it would be.

A special thanks to Carmody for helping me to understand the nuts and bolts of them changing history, myths, thinking and meaning.

I love Jesus. And yes, I think he was just an extraordinary man, much like the rest of us, only better. Oh yeah, and magic is real.

[Franny]

Hmm...from Hawaii I get this from Siri referencing Wikipedia:

Jesus Christ, Jewish preacher and religious leader, central figure of Christianity.

Father is Joseph and 'field of work' is carpentry.

Nothing about son of God or crucifixion 'tho it gives place of death as Calvary.

It gives considerably more info' about Mohammed and Krishna, saying about Krishna that he is an incarnation of Vishnu and a major deity in Hinduism as well as the supreme God in his own right.

There are a lot of Buddhists and temples in Hawaii but upon asking who is Buddha and 'The Buddha' I get, 'Buda', a western part of Budapest with some history. Gautama Buddha is answered with a typical, bland wikipedia bio.

Very interesting that the difference in local can change the information that is delivered on such a universal subject.

[petra]

Very curious indeed. This variance might not entirely be related to locality though, and we probably shouldn't assume. My Google Search results sometimes vary from those in the same office as me (I've only noticed this a few times, by accident), and so I think it's possible for 2 people in the same building to get an entirely different answer when asking Google (or Siri) to define something - although I can't prove it

[EFO]

https://www.google.com/search?gl=us&hl=en&pws=0&ei=bGeyW5j-OsjbwALE45iQDw&q=Hey+God%2C+who+is+Jesus+Christ%3F&oq=Hey+God%2C+who+is+Jesus+Christ%3F&gs_l=psy-ab.12..35i39.37087.38796..42394...0.0..0.117.215.1j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......35i304i39.JZ3_qeJxV_g

He didn't reply... :)

[petra]

He didn't reply... :)

Probably because he's rolling his eyes
Oh wait... lol

[Franny]

When online searches upset your friends...

A few years ago I was with a friend in a taxi and the driver told us about a German restaurant about 30 miles away. A week or so later we decided it was a good time to go and he asked me to get the info. On our way there he looked it up and the search returned nothing. He became very angry at me for lying about the restaurant deciding that it did not exist since it did not display for him.

He was too upset for me to try to explain so I kept quiet.

We made it to the town as we were going to a nearby park first, and asked about the German restaurant (that he had decided did not exist) only to be told it was closed for a few days. We went to a Thai restaurant and he was still fuming.

It seems like an odd hit-or-miss when it comes to some things such as a German restaurant and major religious leaders. These are major cultural subjects and a specific restaurant in a specific town. Odd that the search returned nothing for some of these. I know it's based, at least in part, on past searches and location - and recently on algorithms to limit knowledge.

[shaberon]

The problem with orthodoxy....is that Christ as a man, eventually turns the power back into human individualism and away from centralized power structures. It de-commoditizes the given people and society over time... it makes them independent thinkers, again.

I'll state this as a relative outsider who has tried to give churches the benefit of the doubt. I have attended several kinds of Catholic and Protestant services, and, they were all a bit creepy in some way and made me feel bad. After all those, I entered an Orthodox mission, Syrian diocese, and was totally blown away, the service actually is uplifting, very different from all the others. Theologically, I would still be a heretic to them, so I kept going until they invited me to become a catechumen or when they train you in their doctrine. If that was not part of the deal, I could probably remain in communion with their service, if that makes sense.

[Foxie Loxie]

"Communion".....when I finally came to understand what this really implies....it was like the second shoe dropping!! I still enjoy getting together with my good friends at St. Thomas Episcopal, but will never again partake in the ritual! :facepalm:

[shaberon]

I tried Episcopal too and it gave me hackles.

Most of these rituals repel the entities they wish they could attract. But there is no scriptural basis for a church.

That being said, do they have a derivative of true rites, yes, and that's about where the similarity ends.

Communion is not really the correct term for what I was getting at--I don't know what they call participation by a heretic. Considering the Orthodox rite is the "original official church", there are no Christian countries west of Serbia.

Even without taking them to task for being a bit Constantine--imperial, from that view, there is no Christianity in the western churches. They excommunicated Rome in 1087. The mission Father told me their rite still has a lot in common with Judaism. I really just wanted to see what it was one time, but, it turned out to be better and more powerful than anything I have seen in a church, despite the fact it was in a cheap rented building. And because that makes it one of the few things I have ever seen which impressed me as being somewhat purifying and beneficial, this validates the service in a way that not much compares to.

You can get something that hasn't really changed in almost 2,000 years, or, some kind of offshoot that isn't considered real.

[Valerie Villars]

Most of these rituals repel the entities they wish they could attract.


I entered an Orthodox mission, Syrian diocese, and was totally blown away, the service actually is uplifting, very different from all the others.

I am curious about this, because having been brought up Catholic, I have always loved Cathedrals and parts of the ritual, while not assimilating the dogma.

So, you are saying that most of the rituals do repel entities they are trying to attract, in actual fact for certain people, the ritual could actually be positive?

[Flash]

From Montreal, English request: who is Jesus?


AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Christ, was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader. He is the central figure of Christianity. Most Christians believe he is the incarnation of God the Son and the awaited Messiah (Christ) prophesied in the Old Testament.
Jesus - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

Who is Jesus Christ


Who is Jesus chrust?
Jesus or Jesus Christ wis a Jewish prophet that lived in the 1st century in Roman Palestine. In Christianity, he is the anly son o God an Mary is his mither. Jesus is kent as prophet in Islam an aw. In Christianity, Jesus Christ sacrifeed hissel for humanity an his follaeers fur that they can be forgien for their sins.
Jesus Christ - Wikipedia
https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ

full of grammatical mistakes, Christ is Chrus, this is almost a blasphemy as such for Catholics. I bet anything this is a google translation from another language.. You see what google translation looks like when someone sends me something googled translated into French.

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French request: Qui est Jésus?

It falls right away on Jesus-Christ, no Jesus alone, and it is different from the English request. It gives this:


« Nous croyons en un seul Seigneur, Jésus-Christ, le Fils unique de Dieu, né du Père avant tous les siècles, Lumière issue de la Lumière, vrai Dieu issu du vrai Dieu, engendré et non créé, consubstantiel au Père et par qui tout a été fait ; qui pour nous les hommes et pour notre salut, est descendu des cieux et s'est ...
Jésus-Christ — Wikipédia
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jésus-Christ

Obviously written by a very pious Christian or Catholic "we believe in only one Lord, Jesus-Christ, the unique son of God, born from the father before all the centuries, light born from light, real God born from the real God, etc.etc.


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In Spanish, a third definition to the question : Quien es Jesus?


Jesús de Nazaret, también conocido como Jesús,​ Cristo,​ o Jesucristo, es la figura central del cristianismo y una de las más influyentes de la cultura occidental. ... Para la mayoría de las denominaciones cristianas, es el Hijo de Dios y, por extensión, la encarnación de Dios mismo.
Jesús de Nazaret - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesús_de_Nazaret

I think it is the best one, it gives history and context within Christianity.

"Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus, Christ, or Jesus-Christ, is the central figure of christianity and one of the most influential of the occidental culture. ... For the majority of Christian denominations, he is the son of God, and as an extension, the incarnation of God himself."

[shaberon]

I am curious about this, because having been brought up Catholic, I have always loved Cathedrals and parts of the ritual, while not assimilating the dogma.

So, you are saying that most of the rituals do repel entities they are trying to attract, in actual fact for certain people, the ritual could actually be positive?

I cribbed that from around the 1930s in an Indian swami's clairvoyant accounts of the astral world. A very important basic point was made by him explaining how astral light responds to thought and so people are prone to see either exactly what they want, or what they are most terrified of. So it's highly illusive to begin with.

Now the author is trained not to do this, but simply observe. And so yes, he watches many churches and finds a few that have a humble house of worship aura, but, in his view, most of them accumulated a bunch of ghosts and harmful emotions. There's no kinds of blessings despite them going through the motions of whatever it is they do.

The theological issue is that we observe that since the Edomite times, the profound knowledge of deity has been edited and re-built as "one god" which unfortunately is not for all but only those saved, it operates on a violent tribalistic nationalist basis, itself being a third-rate potency prepared to trick us with any astral illusions because it imbued the material body with the animal soul.

Most all of the old cosmologies had some way of describing a type of superior or spiritual soul, and so, to the extent any ritual draws the animal or mortal soul to cloud over the spiritual or divine soul, we'll say it's working other than intended, and this changes the colors, shapes, sounds, etc., it puts in the astral light.

So for instance we must forbear with those who with In the Name of Jesus, In Nomine Filli, and the like, seem to have a format similar to a greeting card, and instead say this refers to a Name he knew and spoke once a year in secrecy.

In the Byzantine presentation of a church for one thing, you are surrounded with icons of a living Jesus and others, and also a lot of the music uses oriental keys. There is a call and response format that I really don't know if Catholics use. It's not something you can do if you went to snooze through it. This actually was itself directly medically beneficial. No one else has what they've got. They honestly look at you all as lost children, waiting for you to come home. There is not a feeling towards inferior heretical Christians as something to be denounced, but, instead, to go to church, or to re-join them.

The atmospheres I found in other kinds of churches did not seem to be spiritual.

Aside from the question of whether Archangel Raphael should be hovering over the steeple, if I were to say the main entity to attract is Christos, which is no one man or anyone's property but the universal divine spirit in all, and, how to do this, which, the Gospel is nothing but an allegory or instruction manual for this purpose, did any of them help in any way, no.

[Foxie Loxie]

The lesson John Dee learned at the end of his experimentation with the skrying, calling forth a certain "angel", is a warning to us all not to put our "faith" in some other being....even if it be a light being!

Each of us is the sum total of the ALL...we don't have to search elsewhere & can be in control of our own "being". Val, I, too, love to look at the magnificent old cathedrals, but a building has nothing to do with who I AM!! :star:

shaberon is correct in saying Christ is no one's "property"....actually I laughed out loud at that one.....:highfive: Down through the ages so many different people have taken it upon themselves to "speak for God"; it is ridiculous!

As Giordano Bruno put it, not one of us can speak for the Cosmos....so of course, he was burned for being a heretic. :facepalm:

[Valerie Villars]

I agree Foxie. When someone says "God wants you to do this......." or "this is what God means" I know they are just liars.

Each one of us is a different aspect of God. We are all God. We don't need mediators.