Has China's 'Area 51' been found in the Gobi Desert?.......

[Deux Corbeaux]

Has China's 'Area 51' been found in the Gobi Desert?

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/has-chinas-area-51-been-found-in-the-gobi-desert

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For decades, the U.S. government denied that Area 51, a top-secret military base in Nevada, existed, until 2013, when a 2005 Freedom of Information Act request forced the CIA to officially acknowledge it. Now, using images from Google Maps, conspiracy theorists claim they have found China's version in the Gobi desert.

Utilizing images from Google Maps, the YouTube conspiracy channel "thirdphaseofmoon" believes that the circular formation of buildings spotted between Nepal and Mongolia could be some sort of "runway for extraterrestrials," though nothing like that has ever been confirmed by the Chinese government or elsewhere.

Fox News has reached out to the Chinese embassy in Washington D.C. for comment on this story.

WHAT IS GOING ON AT AREA 51?

"Thirdphaseofmoon" describes itself as the "#1 Most Viewed UFO Youtube Channel" and regularly publishes videos about UFOs, aliens and other conspiracy-theory type events.

While it may be nothing more than just an odd arrangement of buildings or rocks, that has not stopped conspiracy theorists from claiming that it is "China's Area 51," with some going so far as to think it is a landing pad for ships.

"It looks like a landing pad for a huge ship of sorts," one commenter wrote. "Runway? I don't think so, but landing pad yes. Especially because of the concave circles. Looks like something rests there."

Another commenter suggested that it is for reconnaissance aircraft: "Stop with the hype, it’s a test rang for reconnaissance aircraft, their cameras and targeting equipment. Every country that puts satellites up, has ballistic missiles or a fleet of ISR aircraft has a range like this."

One commenter even likened it to the famous Phoenix Lights phenomena in 1997. "Wasn't the huge craft behind the 'Phoenix Lights' the same kind of chevron?" user Marc Conyard wrote.

The formation seen in the image above has been hotly debated before, with some believing it could be the Chinese Stonehenge, used by nomads to worship the Sun, according to a 2015 report in the Daily Mail.

Other reports, including one in 2011 from CBS, have suggested they are used to calibrate China's spy satellites, but the Chinese government has never confirmed this.

[Deux Corbeaux]

Has China Found A UFO?

Recent projects by the Chinese government and declassified files from the United Kingdom suggest China may know more about alien life than we previously thought..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esTK_xGoc1c


TRANSCRIPT

In November 2011, Google Maps uncovered bizarre structures in the Gobi Desert, in northern China. In one location, strange striations, 20 metres wide, cover an area more than one kilometre wide and two kilometres long.

At another place, this striking circular construct seems like a landing stage for something inhumanly large. The scale of the structures indicates they are designed to be seen from a very high altitude, like the Nazca lines in Peru. But unlike the Nazca lines, which can be seen from a plane, the Chinese structures are best approached from outer space…

The Chinese government has refused to divulge the purpose of these remarkable sites. The mainstream media immediately compared it to America’s Area 51.
As a result, the media also speculated that China was using these sites to communicate with extraterrestrial life, inviting aliens to land in its back yard.

The newspapers did not realise their suspicions were shared by the British government.
In June 2013, Whitehall declassified files from its top secret UFO Desk. They reveal that between 1947 and 1997, the Ministry of Defense ran undercover UFO investigations. On the one hand, it collected reports of UFO sightings in Britain. On the other hand, it sent spies into the field to investigate these claims.
To identify UFOs, agents were told to "look out for high velocities, sharp manoeuvring, stationary 'flight', and few radar returns".

University lecturer Dr David Clarke, the curator for the National Archives UFO project from 2008 to 2013, says, "The MoD… desperately tried to delay the release of these formerly secret and highly sensitive papers for more than a decade. Even though they have been partly censored, they can’t conceal the fact the UK military was interested in capturing UFO technology. And the files reveal they were desperate to capture this technology – wherever it came from – before the Russians or the Chinese got hold of it first."

In a declassified report called, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defense Region", the Royal Air Force says it was "particularly interested in… propulsion, stealth and any novel electromagnetic technologies". An anonymous senior commander says, "An actual or potential enemy could develop a flying device with the characteristics that UFO phenomena seem to have”.

According to the files, the Ministry of Defence suspected China had found an alien UFO and impounded it, and was developing highly advanced weapons from it.
In particular, British spies believed the Chinese were using alien secrets to develop superfast aircraft that were undetectable to radar.

The Chinese certainly haven’t hidden their interest in UFOs.
UFOlogy in China essentially began in November 1978, when the Communist Party’s official newspaper "People’s Daily" published an article about UFOs by a researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.
Then in 1979, Sun Shili co-founded China’s first UFO association. By 1988, the China UFO Association had 50,000 members.
By the 1990s, there were dozens of alien encounters each year in China

Not long before these strange sites became public knowledge in 2011, China started building the world's largest filled-aperture radio telescope, in Guizhou province in southwest China. It cost nearly half a billion dollars, and is known as Tianyan or “Heavenly Eye”.

Overseen by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, its dish is bigger than 30 football fields and sensitive enough to detect spy satellites even when they’re not broadcasting. It is Earth’s first observatory custom-built to listen for a message from extraterrestrial intelligence. This means that if any humans are to make first contact, it is most likely to be the Chinese.

Ross Andersen, senior editor of The Atlantic, says, "International protocols require the disclosure of first contact, but they are non binding. Maybe China would go public with the signal, but withhold its star of origin. Or maybe China would make the signal a state secret".

The Tianyan dish has been operational since 2016 For all we know, China could have already made first contact. Yet, the Tianyan dish is run as part of the internationally coordinated search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence, or SETI.
SETI oversees and monitors the dish’s data collection. It is highly unlikely it would receive an alien signal without scientists in America and elsewhere finding out about it.


As for the strange structures in the Gobi Desert, they are designed to be seen from outer space – but not by alien eyes.
Jonathon Hill, a research technician and mission planner at the Mars Space Flight Facility at Arizona State University, says the zigzagging white lines are targets for calibrating spy satellites.
He also says the landing pad site is really "a calibration test target for orbital radar instruments”. This may explain why there are fighter jets parked at the centre of the circle.
Speaking of fighter jets, China continues to expand its fleet of military aircraft, and will soon be a leading military power in the sky.

However, it has only recently begun developing its own aircraft designs. Until a decade ago, China relied on adopting designs and seeking engineering support from its neighbours, like Russia and Ukraine.
Meanwhile, in England, even though the Ministry of Defence feared China possessed a UFO, they clearly gave up pursuing it.

On 11th November, 2009, RAF Air Command told Defence Minister Carl Mantell that the MoD "should seek to reduce very significantly the UFO task which is consuming increasing resource, but produces no valuable defence output"....
They argued that in more than 50 years, "no UFO sighting reported to us has ever revealed anything to suggest an extraterrestrial presence or military threat to the UK. Investigations into UFO sightings, even from more reliable sources, serve no useful purpose and merely divert air defence specialists from their primary tasks. Accordingly, no further investigations should be carried out into UFO reports received from any source‟.....

In 2010, the UFO files were transferred to Britain’s National Archives and the last UFO desk officer was redeployed In an email dated to 2nd June, 2009, the officer wrote, "Naturally a section of ufologists will never be convinced that UFOs aren’t real, but frankly, whatever we say, they will choose to believe whatever they believe and we will never convince them otherwise. We cannot blame them" ....

Until 1967, the Ministry of Defence’s policy was to destroy UFO files every five years.... Many records have been lost.

In China, public interest in UFOs has dwindled. Sun Shili says this isn’t surprising because "There hasn’t been a breakthrough, and reports of sightings are repetitive and unfounded"….
But I believe interest in UFOs will never wane because humans are naturally curious about the universe.

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[Deux Corbeaux]

Here´s a video of june 2017.

There´s a structure composed of two X-shaped tarmac strips next to abandoned buildings. It's actually pretty weird looking.
There are also figure-8 shapes both on the tarmac and outside. Bizarre.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8NU0iDBR68

And a CNN view on things, from 2011.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AcA3BtY7CE

[Bill Ryan]

Without doubt, Chinese military scientists know a great deal about the UFO phenomenon, and will have been taking it every bit as seriously as the Americans and Russians. It's a huge country. They'll have had their own crash retrievals, back-engineering programs, and all the rest.

Here's a most interesting recent interview by Richard Dolan with Cheuk Fei, a Hong Kong based researcher with his own radio show there, who speaks excellent English.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEZLvlU-i24

[OopsWrongPlanet?]

Hi Deux Corbeaux, I found your first video clip 'Has China found a UFO?' - from Alltime Conspiracies - interesting in its actual journalistic presentation/style.

The video piece seems to follow a similar format to many BBC-type documentaries we used to see (I have not watched BBC documentaries for years) handling controversial subjects.

While ostensibly handling both sides of the argument even-handedly, without favouring one or the other, in actual fact what is happening is that the piece goes into the 'conspiracy theory' or the view which challenges establishment-type interpretations, and then finishes by more or less trashing that view, in this clip for example saying that in 2010 the UK UFO desk was eventually closed down due to lack of credible evidence/waste of time/waste of money!

It leaves the viewer with piqued interest followed by dashed hopes, the impression of 'move along, nothing to see here'.

Crafty huh? Well I found this technique interesting anyway!

I am looking forward to giving Richard Dolan's interview with Cheuk Fei a listen.

x

[Deux Corbeaux]

Hi Deux Corbeaux, I found your first video clip 'Has China found a UFO?' - from Alltime Conspiracies - interesting in its actual journalistic presentation/style.

The video piece seems to follow a similar format to many BBC-type documentaries we used to see (I have not watched BBC documentaries for years) handling controversial subjects.

While ostensibly handling both sides of the argument even-handedly, without favouring one or the other, in actual fact what is happening is that the piece goes into the 'conspiracy theory' or the view which challenges establishment-type interpretations, and then finishes by more or less trashing that view, in this clip for example saying that in 2010 the UK UFO desk was eventually closed down due to lack of credible evidence/waste of time/waste of money!

It leaves the viewer with piqued interest followed by dashed hopes, the impression of 'move along, nothing to see here'.

Crafty huh? Well I found this technique interesting anyway!

I am looking forward to giving Richard Dolan's interview with Cheuk Fei a listen.

x

Thanks for your reply. I agree with you.

However, I think disclosure, if it will come, will most likely come from China, .... or Russia. Who knows.

[Star Tsar]

A small collection of aerial images of site can be found here:

http://www.viewzone.com/china51.html

[Star Tsar]

And this link from 2011 suggests that this site is a missle test range...

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lamentiraestaahifuera.com%2F2011%2F11%2F15%2Fextraas-estructuras-en-china-visibles-desde-google-earth%2F

[Star Tsar]

Sorry I killed yo thread DC!


The Richard Dolan Show

Shoa Ma | Chinese UFOlogy II

Richard continues his worldwide UFOloigist tour this time he goes back to China to interview a young lady called Shoa Ma who is a member of The International Chinese UFO Association & She discusses with Richard the folowing topics: Current themes in Chinese UFOlogy, A 1997 UFO crash retrieval in China, UFO research monitoring by the Chinese inteligence community, The Xiaoshan incident of 2011 & Her perspective of western UFOlogy all crammed in under one hour!

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[Deux Corbeaux]

^^. The contrary, dear Star. Thanks for keeping the thread alive. ❤️