The Calm Before the Storm... or is the Storm now here?

[Bill Ryan]

This newest post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1253124&viewfull=1#post1253124), on the Ang Stoic Astrological Reports (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports) thread, suggests that the storm is here.

This isn't a thread about the pros and cons of astrology! It's just a neat introduction to the possibility that the storm may be upon us, and there may be a pretty bad forecast now for quite a while to come.

The storm is an emotional and spiritual one, of course. But one with strong gusts that can sometimes knock someone right over.

Maybe the crew of the ship might benefit from taking a moment to discuss the storm (the one that there was supposed to be the calm before!) — rather than each other. :)

That's because everyone reading this surely has an interest in:


The ship staying afloat; and
Together reaching a good, safe harbor, in a delightful new land to be.

I'm absolutely not experiencing any storm personally, touch wood. But I can sure detect it affecting many others over the internet. Do, please, share your perceptions, intuitions, and experiences.

[Flash]

the storm feeling may be linked to the internet - do they already have the technology to send us emotionally crawling?

Today I feel edgy, but yesterday was fine. To me this is not a storm, just a puddle after some rain.

[Bill Ryan]

To me this is not a storm, just a puddle after some rain.

Ha! Made me laugh. :)

I do suspect you may have encountered maybe one or two hurricanes before. :heart:

[TargeT]

I'm 30 min away from a beer on the beach; maybe people need to just move somewhere less hectic... hard to get caught up in it when there's beer and beaches ;)


Give out calmness, be the still stone in the river... it works (well, sometimes).

[Cardinal]

I moved away from the beach to get away from the storms. Now I live in the mountains, but still get the damn things. Instead of flooding, I get trees coming down on my house (ducking, as I watch for Hurricane Michael to hit...)

[Valerie Villars]

I live in the country and haven't a care in the world by normal standards, but for the past two weeks I have been experiencing an anxiousness and a feeling of being unsettled which I NEVER feel anymore.

I can't put my finger on it and there is no real reason to have any anxiety. But, here it is. And it just hasn't gone away which is very, very unusual.

Beautiful house, beautiful land and a bottle of red wine any time I feel the need. But I still feel jumpy and I don't care for it.

[Matthew]

I live in foresty suburbia :beer: I have been feeling more serene than normal; ..to try an illustrate: it feels like I am on a slower, longer, calmer waveform. And recently for me, it has been feeling like the calm after the storm...

but I will take it as it comes :-)

:cat: :dog:

[RunningDeer]

I posted elsewhere that I was feeling unsettled and impatient. It made no sense because my day has been productive in a lot of unrelated areas.

It’s been three+ weeks with the electricity going out in my area at least a couple of times a week. It effects the phone service and internet. While checking out my phone and lines, the technician said there’s a back log of angry customers.

It’s safe to say that it is also the case for my internet service provider. The gentleman gave me a free month of internet service. He thanked me for my patience and said you wouldn’t believe how many customers yell and swear at them.

UPDATE: hello to Sammy. :wave: Hope to see you back posting real soon.

[Mike]

There's so much to feel tense about these days. I think it would be much more shocking if everyone wasn't feeling tense.

But that doesn't mean that we have to be tense! If everyone just takes a moment to be artful and maybe a little humorous with each other (and kind! ..like Paula illustrated above) while enduring the storm, it'll pass without so much discomfort:)

(And a "hi" to Sammy from me too. Sam I was just telling someone not too long ago how much I missed your presence on the forum. Hope all is well with you!)

[Blacklight43]

I have been in the middle of my own storm here. My beloved of 58 years passed after a very painful couple of weeks of suffering...but I feel the storm is subsiding a bit now. It's a relief he's no longer in pain and my adrenaline has stopped gushing so I am relaxing a bit and can even sleep again. I guess it's just as well I missed some of the drama going on here on Avalon now I can regain some sense of normalcy.
This place has been such a big part of my life for so long you are all like my second family.

[RunningDeer]

I have been in the middle of my own storm here. My beloved of 58 years passed after a very painful couple of weeks of suffering...but I feel the storm is subsiding a bit now.
Welcome back, Blacklight43. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/come-in-hug.gif

https://i.imgur.com/tg4CliS.jpg
♡

[ghostrider]

Something is afoot, check this , take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018... They say once every 1,000 years we all have the same cosmic age( if you want to call it that) ... I feel a new era is upon us... Everyone can sense/feel it , something earth changing is going to happen...

[Bill Ryan]

take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018

Of course it does! :)

:focus:

[ThePythonicCow]

There is a tendency, apparently at all levels of existence, to divide into "them" vs "us", "friend" vs "foe", "ying" vs "yang", even (at the plasma level) "positive electrical charge" vs "negative electrical charge".

This depends on adequate pattern recognition abilities, in order to distinguish between any two such classes. For example the "us" vs "them" pattern recognition in living, mobile, beings (whether red blood cells or elephants) here on earth is invariably quite capable.

Part of that pattern recognition involves noticing, quickly and with a good degree of accuracy, which distinguishes "us", vs "them". This is especially critical (vital) in the case that the "other" side is potentially threatening.

For example, as humans, we are intuitively and naturally able to quickly identify any "outsider", "enemy", or other such "other". Whenever the "other" group is starting to appear threatening, then this might appear in our conscious mind as repulsion against whatever traits, however benign, incidental or innocuous, are more likely, in our experience to be associated with "them".

To the pro-Q or pro-Trump members of this forum, it may seem that some of the anti-Q or anti-Trump members are starting to behave badly (that is, to appear threatening), and vice versa.

Our innate "us" vs "them" pattern recognition abilities are kicking in, with increasing strength.

We live in interesting times.

We live in divisive times, and (paranoid, tin-foil-hat conspiracy theorist that I am) I doubt that the peak of this storm has yet passed, or even approached.

The evil bastards who think they rule over us are adept at splitting us into "us" vs "them" groups, fighting amongst ourselves. Like a good carpenter needing to split a piece of wood, they are quick to notice whatever weaknesses and tiny cracks exist in humanity, so that they can leverage and pound on them, widening them and splitting us.

They will arrange (using paid protestors, propaganda, psyops, false flags, mockingbird media, too loud or too mealy mouthed "leaders", political theater, politicized theater, music and arts, false history, the forces of law, tax collection and armies, whispering in the ear of more influential leaders by the ones close to them that they trust, ...) to ensure that each "side" of some potential split seems threatening to the other side. They can then count on basic human tendency (a tendency in all entities) to "color" the distinguishing traits of the "other" side as somehow repulsive, bad or evil.

[ThePythonicCow]

P.S. -- The choices we face are:

Fight at the level we are currently consciously energized.
Withdraw into a soup of undifferentiated nothingness.
Realize that there are higher levels on which we can engage.

[onawah]

I think it's this post that you are referring to Bill, not quite the last in the Ang Stoic thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1252401&viewfull=1#post1252401
I'm always gratified to see that other Avalonians are reading that thread. I find Ang's reports to be kind of uncanny in the way they reflect what I am generally feeling about the energies at the time.

This newest post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1253124&viewfull=1#post1253124), on the Ang Stoic Astrological Reports (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports) thread, suggests that the storm is here.

This isn't a thread about the pros and cons of astrology! It's just a neat introduction to the possibility that the storm may be upon us, and there may be a pretty bad forecast now for quite a while to come.

The storm is an emotional and spiritual one, of course. But one with strong gusts that can sometimes knock someone right over.

Maybe the crew of the ship might benefit from taking a moment to discuss the storm (the one that there was supposed to be the calm before!) — rather than each other. :)

That's because everyone reading this surely has an interest in:


The ship staying afloat; and
Together reaching a good, safe harbor, in a delightful new land to be.

I'm absolutely not experiencing any storm personally, touch wood. But I can sure detect it affecting many others over the internet. Do, please, share your perceptions, intuitions, and experiences.

[Daozen]

Outside the internet, life goes on. People are learning languages, finding new jobs, making friends, starting businesses. As they have done for thousands of years. I stayed away from the political threads for over a year. Getting involved did nothing for me spiritually or physically. It was just a giant waste of time.

I think a lot of the internet food fights are toxic and irrelevant. Pro-Trump/Anti-Trump etc... It's a shame that these threads dominate in a time that could be used for healing and creativity, but such is the nature of the net. It's down to me to use my own discipline to ignore these conversations as much as possible, and focus on doing something creative. No one cares what internet pundits think. On the other hand, engineers, farmers, artists and builders... they are creating things that last centuries.

If you want to fear something.. fear disease,disasters, debt, and maybe death. All else is just ghosts clanging pots.

So...

Switch off the internet, and there's calm and creativity everywhere. www.meetup.com is a good start.

[mgray]

Today you can find a storm with just a click of the mouse or go button on your phone. Information and misinformation can be had 24/7/365.

Like TargeT, sand between my toes with an adult beverage in hand has been my peaceful place for 50 years, but weather is going against me in NY.

[thepainterdoug]

Thanks Bill ,as this does hit a mark with me.

Any one that has taken notice of any of my posts in the last three months can see I'm pre occupied with this.

I liken the people I see in my town today analogous to the present day characterless cars that drive by. No one can tell one apart from the other ,as opposed to the days of the Plymouth Roadrunners, The Camaro's ,Mustangs, GTO,S etc all having distinct styles and personality

I reject writing off my observations as ,"longing for the good ole days "as well.

I am also quite alarmed by the lawlessness spreading all over places like Venezuela and sections of Mexico once seen as safe for tourists . Cancun Playa del Carmen etc.. I can see a day when the drug cartels will run everything and everyone, as who is to stop them? The police are frightened and underpaid . And with the governments just as corrupt , the drug lords must feel they have a right to do what they want as well.

something is way wrong . just my opinion .

[Hazelfern]

It seems obvious that I am in a catastrophic climate change. Be it a natural event or solely human made, here I am. Too much heat and rain with more on the way.

>I'm kind of annoyed by the smugness of the comments thus far<

[Joe from the Carolinas]

In looking at nature, all storms have a pattern as well as a function. They bring seeds, nutrients, and water for the soil, recharge aquifers, and keep trees strong.

Storms also snap healthy and strong trees in half, create new land, and accelerate the composting process.

The rub for humans is that the destructive nature of those storms sometimes doesn’t work out too well in the short term, and we get swept up in it. Sometimes literally disappearing.

I think our natural protective instincts are a healthy thing to kick in during a storm. I think it’s really important to respect a storm and recognize the bugger. Get prepared and then ride it out, stay calm and let the pattern play itself out responsibly.

I was camping, hiking, and exploring with a group near a small cave. The group I was with consisted of folks that were busy arguing, taking pictures, and joking around with other. It was a fun time. Then an unexpected storm started to develop. Everyone ran into the cave at the first thunder crack.

The problem is that the entrance to the cave was located at the base of a valley, and there was a stream running into the cave. They were gesturing and yelling for me to come join them while I was busy putting on my poncho and tightening my boots.

I walked toward them and noticed that there was a dark line against the inside of the cave’s entrance. This is called a high water mark. it’s a pattern that occurs in flood plains as many are probably aware. The group was preoccupied with the storm and missed it.

Luckily I was able to convince them that we still had time to safely hike out, before the terrain became too slippery, and before the cave was completely flooded with water. I’m glad they listened, it didn’t stop raining for 2 days!

But in the dry and comforting safety of higher ground, shelter, and warm sleeping bags, everybody was able to enjoy the storm and continue laughing, arguing, and having a good time.

[yelik]

Since I first started researching various conspiracy theories I managed to convince myself something big was about to happen especially as more people started to awaken.

The internet is allowing more and more people to understand an alternative, more realistic, view of the world which prompts us to ask more questions and speculate how we might improve both ourselves and the world in general – I can feel a big change upon us type of thinking.

I think a combination of alternative information, realisation of how deceptive Governments, Corporations and media are together with psychological manipulation / social engineering creates uncertainty (mind dislikes uncertainty) as we try to make sense of all the lies and secrets.

The domino effect of apparent growing mass uneasiness will undoubtedly magnify any effect as will any implanted thoughts being beamed our way.

[what is a name?]

The increase/change in the energies/frequencies brought about by Universal changes is physically and emotionally affecting the planets population, with most unaware of what's coming in.

Those who are aware and make a point of 'integrating' the energy changes via meditation/spiritual/mindfulness practices have no doubt as to what's going down and are certainly being battered in the choppy waves of change, done with the intention of anchoring within, which in turn will allow further energy upgrades.

The body is an energy container. a bit like a battery, and a 'proper' functioning energy body has its Positive and Negative polarities working together in balance.

The more the body is 'out of balance', the more the incoming energies will 'highlight' those out of balance aspects in both emotional and physical ways.

Due to the intentional 'conditioning' by ones who do not want the population to 'upgrade' with the opportunity being presented with these energy waves, many forms of frequency lowering/blocking are also being employed, which adds its own ingredients to the pot of bubbling stew.

Just the fact of being aware of something 'big' is going down gives a person an anchoring point on which to build on, rather than being swept away on the sea of change.

[Flash]

Blacklight, sorry for your loss, my heart is with you

[greybeard]

The only thing that one can be sure of is that they (I) exist.
Ive been round the block so many times with the concept of a mass wakening leading to --whatever is the vogue of the moment-- a new earth etc.
There are more and more people interested in spirituality thats true.

When Jesus died his followers thought that his return would be soon --in their life time.
The Buddha said that his teaching would not be relevant for two thousand years.

Many are the signs of change-- however the mind makes assumptions and puts on these earth changes environment changes, increased interest in spirituality--the thought that separation --two earths the bad and the good go their own ways, ----is inevitable and in the foreseeable future.

Whatever happens that is still within Maya.
Self is eternal perfect changeless.

Perhaps best to discover what you already are.

Ch

[TargeT]

But in the dry and comforting safety of higher ground, shelter, and warm sleeping bags, everybody was able to enjoy the storm and continue laughing, arguing, and having a good time.

Humans are agents of entropy, as long as we feel secure in our static environment (often through deceiving ourselves) we feel safe and relaxed.

Mix in just a tiny bit of natures chaos & depending on the perspective, it could be the worst thing *ever*.

[Pam]

Something is afoot, check this , take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018... They say once every 1,000 years we all have the same cosmic age( if you want to call it that) ... I feel a new era is upon us... Everyone can sense/feel it , something earth changing is going to happen...

I bet you said the same thing last year!!!!!

[ghostrider]

Something is afoot, check this , take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018... They say once every 1,000 years we all have the same cosmic age( if you want to call it that) ... I feel a new era is upon us... Everyone can sense/feel it , something earth changing is going to happen...

I bet you said the same thing last year!!!!!

I believe the day was October 6th, they say every 1,000 years the world is the same age, anyone who had a birthday on the seventh left the group and a new cycle began ...

[petra]

Something is afoot, check this , take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018... They say once every 1,000 years we all have the same cosmic age( if you want to call it that) ... I feel a new era is upon us... Everyone can sense/feel it , something earth changing is going to happen...

I bet you said the same thing last year!!!!!

I believe the day was October 6th, they say every 1,000 years the world is the same age, anyone who had a birthday on the seventh left the group and a new cycle began ...

Ah HA! Or should I say "Ha Ha" ? I thought you got hacked, ghostrider ;-)

That's interesting, thanks for explaining this definition of cosmic cycle.

I'm currently unable to find any more info though, and I am unable access this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_of_October_(disambiguation)... the error is "Our servers are currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical problem. Please try again in a few minutes.". Any more info regarding significance of October 6 would be appreciated

UPDATE: Got the page to load, but nothing on it. Meh

UPDATE 2: Here we are! And now I feel silly :) Just a tiny bit "off", we celebrated on Sunday

Monday, October 8
Thanksgiving 2018 in Canada

[Bill Ryan]

Something is afoot, check this , take your current age, take the year you were born and add the two equals 2018... They say once every 1,000 years we all have the same cosmic age( if you want to call it that) ... I feel a new era is upon us... Everyone can sense/feel it , something earth changing is going to happen...

I bet you said the same thing last year!!!!!

ghostrider, you're being catastrophically stupid. If you take your year of birth, and add your age, then OF COURSE you get the current year.

That's what age is. :)

:focus:

[Patient]

Good responses on the thread. I also want to thank you Bill for starting this thread because I have been feeling the same and I kept thinking about starting a similar thread, but my thoughts felt negative - so nice one!

As I said, I am seeing and feeling that there does seem to be more negative than positive in everyday things. I think that a lot of it might have to do simply with the economy. From the top down - all of the regular people at the bottom feel it the most. This results in more pressure on the average person and they react as best they can. Everyday items cost more and our wages are not going up. People expect more, but have less money to spend and are getting less for their money. Have you noticed how different our food has become over the last years? Of course. Even the cheap foods - Kraft Mac n cheese has changed a lot. Oreo cookies are smaller. Pasta is not the same. Huge movement in people changing their diets to vegetarian - this affects everyone.

I recently moved to a new town. I am using the same bank I have used for almost 20 years, but it is a different branch of course. Now you would think that a major bank institution would have their info connected well enough to make this a simple switch - because you are suppose to be able to go into any branch with your bank card and I.D. anyway and do your banking. I am amazed with how difficult it has been for them - we have provided all of our info. We have even had the bank managers from each bank talk to each other on the phone - with us present - to confirm our intentions of switching home branches to the one in our new location. They still are giving us a hard time with cheques going through our business account - not once has there been an issue in the history of our business.

So what the heck? Seemed simple enough when you look at the economy affecting everything. Of course that would have an affect on everything and everyone. But there is something more, and I guess that is what is at the heart of the question of this thread. There is something else that is affecting "people". It does seem to me that the average person is more agitated, more stressed out. Personally, my guard is up because it seems that with everything and everyone I am dealing with, they are trying to "rip me off" or steal, or deceive. When I moved, due to a bunch of problems that can arise when you move (delays from moving trucks, people not moving out of the place you are suppose to move into, etc..) our moving took longer than expected. There was practically a lynch mob outside of our house that we were moving out of. Half of the neighbourhood was standing around watching as the landlord was yelling at me to move out (while the movers were moving my furniture into the truck) it was bizarre.

There are still good people out there. Our new neighbours are so nice. Interesting though - when I first spoke to him, he mentioned how people seem to be different than what he has been use to throughout his whole life. He seemed relieved when he met us. He indicated that the previous neighbours that lived here were difficult to have as neighbours. So I do believe that there is something more than just the economy that is having an affect on people. Perhaps it is just the culmination of everything that the PTB have put upon the masses.

If you consider the fact that so many of the things that we are exposed to (medicine, electronics, etc..), are released without appropriate testing and research - who can really say what the total affect on the masses will be?

Looking at the word as a whole, ( a big round world, not a flat one LOL), there are always storms. There is always conflict. That is our world today. As a few have stated already in this thread - we have to weather the storm. Have you ever been on a large lake in a canoe and then a storm approaches? The wind picks up and the waves get bigger - what do you do to get through it? You turn the canoe so that the waves don't tip you over. You buckle down and concentrate on the task at hand. You work your way out of it and then you and your canoe can go out on the lake on a better day!

[samildamach]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds
Here is a link to a facebook experiment on changing people's moods based on the feed given to them by facebook.
As you can see it was rather successful.
So we know that the media can effect the mood of the unaware as they feel fit.

[Star Tsar]

Hey Riders this may be of use...

Alexis Brooks talks with astrologer PMH Atwater about the state of matters on Earth & How a total of six planets went retrograde this past summer..

sHsDekVMmU8

[onawah]

This is the part from Ang Stoic's recent report which I found exceptionally resonant with the idea of "Calm Before the Storm or the Storm Now Here" posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1252401&viewfull=1#post1252401:
"We live in interesting times. As far as interest goes, October just turns up the heat to “Max”, and only if you are fully asleep do you not get the feeling that, come November, our world may never be the same (again). When does it stop being so “interesting”? Well, with Uranus now becoming the new Saturn, we can safely say that “interesting” is now the new ‘ordinary’. So let’s get used to rapid change and disruption, as well as ‘present moment awareness’, boundless insights and creative inspiration, and the ability to shift into higher dimensions at will all being the new norm. For those who cling to the 3D world, fear-ridden about what tomorrow may bring, then yes… a return to the “grand old days of yore” are going to seem like they have not only betrayed them, but they may turn out to appear like a dark and twisted nightmare after all.

OCTOBER 2018
Those who say that “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” were probably talking about Venus in Scorpio, now stationary and about to retrograde at 10°50′ Scorpio (Oct 5) and heads back to 25°15′ Libra (Nov 16). Due to her hard aspects to long-duelling Mars/Uranus, and a skipped step to the Nodes, this is an epochal transit – already proving to be a revolutionary call to action between the genders.

There has never been a civil war between the genders. Somehow events are conspiring to divide this planet, and what could be more fundamentally divisive than the most common denominator in just about every household?

We get this. Surely we must. It seems that the dice of fate are supremely loaded. They’re loaded with such intent to settle a score which for years, decades… centuries… millenia has seen this world divided in many other ways. For no ‘good’ reason. Division and separation, exclusion and limitation are the domain of Saturn. Never through Saturn’s historic reign over ‘linear time’ has there been a ‘good’ reason for the world to be divided, usually over characteristics that we cannot change at birth, be they skin-colour, beauty, nationality, heritage, creed, background, class, economic status, family privilege, land-claim and sovereignty…

…oh and let’s forget the obligatory obvious: Gender

We are now at the point of ultimate division. Since 2014 we have talked much about the ultimate “divergence of humanity”. The Cardinal Grand Cross of in April 2014 would mark a distinct time in history, from which humanity would become increasingly set apart in all significant directions.

From that critical time of conflicting grand awareness, things of matter between us would accelerate to ‘matter’ to a point of obtuse annoyance. Awareness of our ‘differences’ would continue to divide us so diametrically, to such an absolute degree than we would eventually break matters down to the most common, most empirical denominator… the individual Self. And, until so, we will not be ready to fight the ultimate war.

We are near. This war is beyond any cross-nation war. We have seen many, many wars over the who-knows-how long, and over who-knows-what. War have always been waged between tribes and among individuals – often about things they do not understand.

World Wars.

Internally too, we have seen much in-fighting between our own peoples – between us and them, between us and our institutions, between us and our churches, corporations, political parties and their leaders. This is becoming a more and more common phenomenon, especially thanks to digital media. And of course, most recently – in the past 12 months, we have seen it most domestically, between ourselves and those we love – those who are ‘supposed to’ love and compliment us. Those with whom we live, who have made us feel whole; made us feel complete. The in-fighting is closing more and more “in”, and every day we awaken to feel a strange sense of alienation from the outer world; we awaken to find that the human divergence has now all but taken place inside our own homes.

On every matter, we seem to be split into many disparate parts, becoming upset and arguing over anything, breaking up, disbanding and unfollowing each other over differences which are essentially meaningless, but we place so much value upon. We are each armed with our little black, wireless devices of incendiary intent and we fire incessant missiles of invective at one another in this full-scale digital battleground. For many, it is becoming a most uncivil ‘civil war… the most paradoxically antisocial ‘social network’. The internet has gone from the initial promise of becoming te ultimate instrument of ‘freedom to share’, to the most toxically ‘divisive tool’. We see the most toxic, divisive intellectual assaults coming not only from everyday people, but from world leaders and high court judges and media commentators – people appointed to stay fair and diplomatic.

As we enter October, we observe that the harmonising Libra Sun having a great deal of turbulence on its hands as it tries to restore balance among us. Next Tuesday’s New Moon at 15°♎48′, squaring Pluto shows just how dire the fight between lightness and dark has become.

Ruled by Venus, this Libra lunation comes at such a markedly debilitating point. The Sun in its fall during Libra, which means its ability to make decision and act in authority is severely. mitigated. Venus’s detriment in Scorpio weakens things yet again. Scorpio is the sign of the zodiac that explores that which the outer “authorities” have labeled taboo. In Scorpio we learn to observe the flow of ‘power’ and identify what it is that constitutes authentic power. Scorpio’s rulers Pluto and Mars are in conflict to both the Sun and Venus, respectively. The archetype of the shaman and the alchemist, Scorpio is the only sign with three symbols which describe the possible ways its energy will express as it gains mastery.

The Scorpion is the first symbol – it reactively (and often with a lethal blow) stings others in self-protection because it doesn’t yet grasp that what it does to others it does to itself. At the next level is the eagle, who has learned to soar above the lower forms of human drama but remains predatory and judgmental, eager to consume its selective prey. At the highest level, Scorpio’s key totem is symbolized by the Phoenix, the mythological bird of India. Legend has it that as the Phoenix was about to die it would sing a hauntingly beautiful song and all of creation would be reminded of what really matters. Then the Phoenix would burst into flames and from its ashes a new bird arose. Pluto is currently stationed at 18°♑45′ after turning direct on Sep 30.

Venus is now moving so slowly that she too is considered stationary – the period when her energy is vibrationally most intense because it is focused in one place – not moving. She will turn retrograde on Friday, Oct 05 2018, 19:07 UTC. When a planet has a retrograde cycle, it is primarily inverting the normal flow of conscious experience, resulting in a changing of direction, focus, and attention. In general, retrograde cycles often redirect consciousness down different avenues, or back to the past to clear ourselves of any residual influences on the present."

(And more in that report about how to cope with it all...)


I think it's this post that you are referring to Bill, not quite the last in the Ang Stoic thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1252401&viewfull=1#post1252401
I'm always gratified to see that other Avalonians are reading that thread. I find Ang's reports to be kind of uncanny in the way they reflect what I am generally feeling about the energies at the time.

This newest post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1253124&viewfull=1#post1253124), on the Ang Stoic Astrological Reports (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports) thread, suggests that the storm is here.

This isn't a thread about the pros and cons of astrology! It's just a neat introduction to the possibility that the storm may be upon us, and there may be a pretty bad forecast now for quite a while to come.

The storm is an emotional and spiritual one, of course. But one with strong gusts that can sometimes knock someone right over.

Maybe the crew of the ship might benefit from taking a moment to discuss the storm (the one that there was supposed to be the calm before!) — rather than each other. :)

That's because everyone reading this surely has an interest in:


The ship staying afloat; and
Together reaching a good, safe harbor, in a delightful new land to be.

I'm absolutely not experiencing any storm personally, touch wood. But I can sure detect it affecting many others over the internet. Do, please, share your perceptions, intuitions, and experiences.

[greybeard]

Well my wife got a place of her own--no fall out--just decided she needed more space and our place too small for two people.
Weve lived here eight years.
Still friends but division none the less.

Chris

[Rebecca]

I like the idea of married couples having individual homes. I would personally want that and think it’s an excellent idea.

[meeradas]

I like the idea of married couples having individual homes. I would personally want that and think it’s an excellent idea.

It's indeed brilliant, if the plan is ending up alone altogether. Take it (https://500px.com/photo/277649487/waiting-by-herb-garmsen?ctx_page=1&from=user&user_id=19994789) from me.

[greybeard]

Ive been married three times.
Cant say as there was a storm before or after--I get on with them fine.
The book " Men are from Mars Women from Venus" a helpful read.

I dont dispute the astrological reading but is this more "dynamic" than similar ones of the past--I dont have the knowledge to make any kind of assessment as to where the human race may be goingbut Avalon seems to be more interested than usual in a spiritual "upgrade" for all, or just some

Chris

[Baby Steps]

The increase/change in the energies/frequencies brought about by Universal changes is physically and emotionally affecting the planets population, with most unaware of what's coming in.

Those who are aware and make a point of 'integrating' the energy changes via meditation/spiritual/mindfulness practices have no doubt as to what's going down and are certainly being battered in the choppy waves of change, done with the intention of anchoring within, which in turn will allow further energy upgrades.

The body is an energy container. a bit like a battery, and a 'proper' functioning energy body has its Positive and Negative polarities working together in balance.

The more the body is 'out of balance', the more the incoming energies will 'highlight' those out of balance aspects in both emotional and physical ways.

Due to the intentional 'conditioning' by ones who do not want the population to 'upgrade' with the opportunity being presented with these energy waves, many forms of frequency lowering/blocking are also being employed, which adds its own ingredients to the pot of bubbling stew.

Just the fact of being aware of something 'big' is going down gives a person an anchoring point on which to build on, rather than being swept away on the sea of change.

Is there something external going on?

Is there any substance to the idea that our solar system moving into a different area (galactic plane? ) affects our minds subtly?

I do not know, but certainly there is radiation in space, that does not reach humans due to the Earth's magnetic field plus Ozone layer.
Both those insulating blankets are weakening at the moment.

There are other ideas regarding our electronic soup, and whether it is toxic or a carrier wave for 'stuff'.

This external idea is a bit schizo.

Everyone has their own personal take, in terms of their internal processes, irrespective of whether some influence(s) are in play.

Cognitive dissonance.

If one awakens to hidden truths (again it sounds schizo), one could interact with friends who do not possess that knowledge. Often they flip, call you mad, and then conclude that certain people are just going mad right now. No dissonance for the unaware, just dissonance for the awakener, until they learn not to try to bring those perspectives to people not going in that direction.

Disagreements seem to be a big deal at the moment.


In the real world, the constructive destruction proceeds. Awakened people will not, for example, feel dissonance if,say, the Catholic Church collapses.

Millions will.


That destruction is a growing news story or trend in the real world. The millions who will suffer as this progresses will encounter their dissonant thoughts as a result of reading an article, or disappearing priests etc, not as a result of a cosmic ray or 5g carrier wave.


If there IS an external force acting on people's minds, I suggest it would relate to truth. Gnosis. If a normie feels the growing Gnosis, but the realizations are dissonant in relation to their programming, they will struggle. Dissonance between their fundamental soul being that seeks truth, and their acquired mis-perceptions.


Those that are more awake should have a smoother ride.


If the awakening is some kind of mass hundredth monkey psychic collective leap, and the controllers have access to subtle electronic means for manipulating us, they might use that to interfere.

[lunaflare]

There is a calm in a storm. The still centre of a whirling tornado.

Great posts here that speak to finding balance within the constant movement of this plane of opposites; whether this is the powerful surges and seasons of Nature or harmony in self (yin/yang) or marriage or partnership (same thing--male/female energies and not necessarily gender specific).

I now hold a pretty simple philosophy or belief system in that we came to earth to experience. That's it. It can be high drama or more of a peaceful experience. we choose. Unless we sequester ourselves away, we have to expect constant change. motion...for sure it can be so weary making. Confounding. Depressing. Uplifting. If one is able to step a little to the side of the hurricane winds, there can be the experience of peace. Knowing how to do this takes life experience--or listening to something/someone wiser.

Yes we do instinctively seek shelter when a storm appears and spins us "off guard". Running to the cave was a thoughtful analogy, Jo. If we don't have the life experience or know what to look for we can unwittingly cause ourselves further harm. And then there is also the concept of Fate.
I like to seek advice where I can.
Internet
forums
Nature itself
Ultimately I decide. Whether to leave the cave for higher ground or stay put.
Choice is powerful.

I do sense intensity during this time--these weeks in October--. This is why I sought out (and found) this post!
So thanks.

[Arcturian108]

When referring to ultimate universal laws, the Vedas speaks of the three gunas:

Sattva - creation
Rajas - maintenance
Tamas - Destruction

The above cycle repeats itself endlessly.

In regards to the state of the world, we have seen a fairly stable Rajasic period since World War II. But the push towards globalism with the extreme movement of peoples across the globe is very unsettling to everybody where this is occurring, and thus Tamas is beginning to take the upper hand.

[Words of Joy]

Hmm interesting thread.

I used to feel pretty stable. What I find remarkable is ever since I decided to move away from t.v. and focus more on my personal life/reality, the storms seem to be more often and more intense. As if giving more attention to life gives more room for change. I used to despise the monotonous side of life some times. But nowadays I also rejoice in storms, besides having to cope with it. It's not all bad. Can be emotional, though often spiritually rewarding if willing to build for better.

[Deux Corbeaux]

When referring to ultimate universal laws, the Vedas speaks of the three gunas:
[PHP]
Sattva - creation
Rajas - maintenance
Tamas - Destruction

The above cycle repeats itself endlessly.

In regards to the state of the world, we have seen a fairly stable Rajasic period since World War II. But the push towards globalism with the extreme movement of peoples across the globe is very unsettling to everybody where this is occurring, and thus Tamas is beginning to take the upper hand.

I'm sorry, but I have to step in here. I think you mixed-up the gunas. Can happen.

Sattva - balance/purity, preservation > Maintenance
Rajas - action, passion > Creation
Tamas - inaction, darkness > Destruction

So when you state that we have been in a fairly stable period since WWII, it's been a Sattvic period.

Everything in this world goes through three stages:
creation (radjas); maintenance (sattva); annihilation (tamas).

[Arcturian108]

Deux Corbeaux:
I beg to differ with your definition of the three gunas. My definition is not coming from an internet search, but from my background as a meditation instructor fully trained by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a direct disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-1953).

[greybeard]

I think the Yugas are the bigger cyclic period.
Once upon a time I knew about these things.
Chris

[Deux Corbeaux]

Deux Corbeaux:
I beg to differ with your definition of the three gunas. My definition is not coming from an internet search, but from my background as a meditation instructor fully trained by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a direct disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-1953).

Dear Arcturian, my knowledge doesn't come from an internet search either.
I followed the Raja Yoga teacher training which included an in-depth exploration of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which gave me the instructions for how to incorporate these teachings into daily life.

Analyse the words.

Rajas- Rage. But also passion, activity, ambition. Fire.
Tamas - Tame. Mental dullness, ignorance, destruction. Darkness
sattva - Satisfied. Balance, peace, purity. Light

It is the vibration of the 3 Gunas that brings forth creation.

Peace and love. DC

[happyuk]

We are currently in Dwapara Yuga, which will last 2400 years, and which become fully expressed circa 1900 after passing through a Kali Yuga cycle of 1200 years, beginning in ad 500.

The era we are currently in (Dwapara) can be characterised by a gradual breakdown of materialistic values, and a growing consciousness and understanding of people, nature and manifests in improvements in speech and communication of all kinds, travel, sharing and dissemination of ideas and know-how and consumption of media of all forms.

This is distinct from the Kali cycle through which we have only recently passed, relatively speaking, and we are currently seeing a gradual end of certain satanic / mayic / demonic powers of:

Aristocracy
Authoritarianism
Cartels
Collectivism / Communism / Socialism
Cronyism
Dictatorships
Mafiosi
Matriarchy
Monopolies
National Socialism
Nepotism
Oligarchy
Patriarchy
Slavery
Technocracy
Theocracy
Totalitarianism

And and gradual reduction in the end of discrimination by:

Age
Class
Gender
Geography
Race
Religion
Health
Wealth

And a gradual increase in

Free trade
Globalism
Meritocracy
Equality
Freedom
Democracy
Increase in the middle classes

Already we can see a pattern of rising tension emerging among Kali-based institutions: monarchies, aristocracies and authoritarian regimes becoming increasingly unbearable for those that have to live under them and being either overthrown or collapsing in on themselves, to be replaced with new institutions more in line with higher vibrations.

However this dislodging of stale mindsets comes at a price: it took the English Civil War, American Revolutionary War, American Civil War, WWI, WWII, proxy Cold Wars, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf etc to dislodge old mindsets and practices. This Dwapara Yuga will in the short term not end conflicts, but rather intensify them.

[onawah]

In my experience, even the "Masters" will disagree on many points.

[Smell the Roses]

There’s been a long period of Mercy and Tolerance. Bad people have been able to get away with a lot. I do feel that we are moving into a period of Justice, which may seem like a Storm, but is certainly needed and a Long Time Coming.

[anandacate]

When referring to ultimate universal laws, the Vedas speaks of the three gunas:

Sattva - creation
Rajas - maintenance
Tamas - Destruction

The above cycle repeats itself endlessly.

In regards to the state of the world, we have seen a fairly stable Rajasic period since World War II. But the push towards globalism with the extreme movement of peoples across the globe is very unsettling to everybody where this is occurring, and thus Tamas is beginning to take the upper hand.

For clarification, here is a direct quote of Maharishi explaining the influence of the three Gunas and how their interplay constitutes life in the relative field.

The Vedas’ concern is with the three Guṇas.
Be without the three Guṇas, O Arjuna, freed from
duality, ever firm in purity, independent of possessions,
possessed of the Self. (Bhagavad-Gita, chapter 2, verse 45)

Maharishi's commentary: “The entire creation consists of the interplay of the three Guṇas — Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas — born of Prakṛiti, or Nature. The process of evolution is carried on by these three Guṇas. Evolution means creation and its progressive development, and at its basis lies activity. Activity needs Rajo-guṇa to create a spur, and it needs Sato-guna and Tamo-guna to uphold the direction of the movement.

“The nature of Tamo-guna is to check or retard, but it should not be thought that when the movement is upwards Tamo-guna is absent. For any process to continue, there have to be stages in that process, and each stage, however small in time and space, needs a force to maintain it and another force to develop it into a new stage. The force that develops it into a new stage is Sato-guna, while Tamo-guna is that which checks or retards the process in order to maintain the state already produced so that it may form the basis for the next stage.

“This explains why the three Guṇas have inevitably to be together. No one Guṇa can exist in isolation without the presence of the other two. It is for this reason that Lord Krishna asks Arjuna to be out of all the three Guṇas, to be entirely out of the influence of the forces that constitute life in the relative field.”

Reference: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. (2015). Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on the Bhagavad-Gita: a new translation and commentary, chapters 1–6. Fairfield, Iowa, USA: Maharishi University of Management Press, p. 128. (Original work published 1967)

[TargeT]

There’s been a long period of Mercy and Tolerance. Bad people have been able to get away with a lot. I do feel that we are moving into a period of Justice, which may seem like a Storm, but is certainly needed and a Long Time Coming.

any items that point to that for you, or is it just a feeling?

[Eric J (Viking)]

There’s been a long period of Mercy and Tolerance. Bad people have been able to get away with a lot. I do feel that we are moving into a period of Justice, which may seem like a Storm, but is certainly needed and a Long Time Coming.

any items that point to that for you, or is it just a feeling?

Sorry to budge in here Target...this came to mind.

Those words still get my hair to stand on end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPUTMU4Lho

Viking

[Elpis]

I’ve been lost for awhile in the Kavanaugh hearings, the minute by minute changing news cycles and Twitter.

Rather ironic (or not) this was the first post catching my eye when signing in. I am feeling anxious these days. Probably due in large part to the above.

I am definitely feeling as if something is afoot. I have an uneasy feeling. I’m very sensitive and pick up change in vibration easily. Perhaps I am only picking up on the change in mine.

[Smell the Roses]

There’s been a long period of Mercy and Tolerance. Bad people have been able to get away with a lot. I do feel that we are moving into a period of Justice, which may seem like a Storm, but is certainly needed and a Long Time Coming.

any items that point to that for you, or is it just a feeling?

It's a strong feeling, not based on any inside info or world events in particular. Just a feeling of puzzle pieces coming into place and the non-linear-time world experience as a whole settling into something else. It's not possible to sustain the current situation long term. Something's got to give. I have felt that way since approximately 1993, but more intensely now. Frankly, I'm shocked we've made it this long with no major shake-up, or Storm if we wish to call it that.

As a counterpoint, however, I have stopped living my life as if anything exterior is ever going to change. But I have shifted to an internal rather than external locus of control, to the point where I am more willing to participate in everyday society and have an effect on it, as opposed to withdrawing and refusing to participate in an inherently evil and unjust system.

If I had to point to outside events as signs, I would point to the separating of the wheat from the chaff that is occurring on many levels in so many aspects of society. The Trump election in the USA acted as some sort of catalyst where the values people held dear were brought to the surface. The masks are dropping.

I would say the Tolerance I mentioned as ending has come from people like many of us here. I think many of us came into the world believing certain fairy tales that children are taught: that hard work pays off, that anyone can rise to the top, that honesty will be rewarded, that society exists to protect us from bad guys, etc. etc. At some point we learned that none of these things are true, that actually the Justice System is a revenue-collecting agency and Prison-profiteering scam, that there is no Just War, that merit is not rewarded, that mediocrity rises to the top, that honesty will be shunned and punished, and so on. We decided to deal with that in various ways. I personally decided at some point to just not be very involved in society, kind of an Atlas Shrugged approach of withdrawing my talents and creativity from their realm of blandness.

Because we are inherently peaceful people, many of us just want to live and let live. The fact that our entire society is based on lies is disturbing, but the majority of people are so entertained by the bread and circuses that many of us have learned that trying to make external change through any kind of mass movement is made virtually impossible. You can point to released verified historical documents that prove that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag (https://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2008-02/truth-about-tonkin), for example, and most people just don't care about the implication. You can explain that in civil court James Earl Ray was exonerated of MLK's murder, that "a Memphis jury ruled that the local, state and federal governments were liable for King’s death", and that The jury found the mafia and various government agencies “were deeply involved in the assassination. … Mr. Ray was set up to take the blame.” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/03/30/who-killed-martin-luther-king-jr-his-family-believes-james-earl-ray-was-framed/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.df2c1c57b2ed) Again, few will care. If we exist in a world, where the Ruby Ridge and Waco Massacres can occur, and most people will still calmly pay their taxes to the federal government, then a major shake-up is needed. You could even say the ordinary citizen deserves a major shake-up when these things are ignored, and those who try to bring attention to them are ridiculed and shunned.

They have done a pretty good job of killing any spiritual or revolutionary leader who presents a real threat to the status quo, but those are all external fixes from their end. One can only patch the holes in their Ship of Fools for so long before there are so many holes that the ship sinks.

"How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?" --Bob Marley