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enfoldedblue
3rd November 2018, 05:31
Hi Bill,

I recall that around 2012 when all the big predictions were flying around you created your own prediction, based on some insider info...I think... and posted it to Avalon. I know you were sure that 2012 would not be the big deal so many were suggesting it was, but I don't recall it all. It popped into my head a while ago and I tried to search for it but found nothing. Is it still up on Avalon somewhere? It would be interesting to read.

Thanks

Nick Matkin
3rd November 2018, 08:34
I remember the conversations with 'Charles' some years back.

What happened to him? Was he a good guy, bad guy, misinformation agent, white hat, black hat or just someone who was clever and taking the p*ss or clever but bonkers?

What's he up to now?
Thanks.

WhiteFeather
3rd November 2018, 14:58
I dont believe this question was asked, as i have been going through most of the questions.

What are your thoughts on Alex Collier? Do you believe he was an actual experiencer etc. Does he hold any credibility in your opinion?

WhiteFeather
3rd November 2018, 15:06
Dave Allen's funny take on going to Catholic School
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And this, if I may. A classic IMO.
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Limor Wolf
3rd November 2018, 15:16
Dear All:

Profound and difficult questions are welcome... as long as the sincere intention is to know the answer.


Hello again, Bill

What is love for you?

Thank you

Limor

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:09
"13th october 2017"

My Qs;

An overview comment: I may not fully understand questions 2-4.

1- When you did interview Dan Burisch, did you give any Non disclosure agreement to any subject to him?(if any was given, is it overdue since Dan got out of area of truth)- Is there anything not revealed that time but can be revealed now?




No, no NDA. I've never signed one, or ever been asked by anyone to sign one.
2-Did Dan mention about origin country of yellow book which is borrowed from, that time being?




No. He never mentioned anything about the 'country of origin' of the Yellow Book. I always assumed it was the US.
3- What is your impression on that, recent guardian country of the yellow book? Is it much powerful than American military complex , which reason they can not regain of control of that item?




As above, I assume it's in the US. I've never heard anything else.
4- Did Dan mention any time, when he was working with J- Rod , J Rod was not aware of yellow book's origin?

"16 november 2017"




No, nothing like that (if I understand the question). I don't know the significance of the Nov 2017 date.
Q- Any thought on Salamon's ring?




I don't know what that is.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:20
You mention that you believe Jesus was a real person, yet you agree that religion was developed as a means to control the masses. Do you believe in God?? Do you take the bible verbatim?? Was Jesus the son of God?? Are you a religious person??


Do you believe in God??


No, not in the Christian sense. There's no omnipotent father figure up there controlling and masterminding it all. That's all a projection of (a) ancient inability to fully understand the universe, and (b) a kind of projection of our desire for a strong, loving parent who'll make everything work out okay.
Do you take the bible verbatim??


No, the Bible is a hugely edited, altered, multiply mistranslated, censored and incomplete quasi-historical document.
Was Jesus the son of God??


No. He was an extraordinarily gifted, inspired and inspiring spiritual teacher — and also a political freedom fighter. He was the husband of Mary Magdalene, and fathered her children: I believe two of them. He survived the crucifixion, which was a real event. But the biblical 'resurrection' was fake news.Are you a religious person??


No. But I'm a very spiritual person. The two are entirely different.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:24
Bill, would you be comfortable going into more detail about your following remarks?
Thanks.


And regarding a 'return to Camelot', every now and then the thought crosses my mind. It'd be a little like Steve Jobs returning to Apple in 1997 to fix the company and turn everything around.

But that would be impossible. Three weeks ago, when Bob Dean passed, and Kerry (very kindly) brought me on to the tribute livestream broadcast, we did a reasonable job together, especially as it was the first time we'd done any kind of show jointly since 2012. Some people who've heard the show (http://youtu.be/vEwPxiBmqYc) were generous enough to say that they think I kept it all together, and I'd not disagree.

Despite Bob's sad passing, it was a kind of feel-good moment. It was a privilege to be able to say a few things on air to honor him. After the show, she and I had a few words on Skype to close off.

Then Kerry, with every good intention and with zero malice of any kind, said something (about me/to me) that was so inaccurate, inappropriate, and utterly divorced from reality that I was literally stopped in my tracks and had no idea how to respond.

I wasn't even upset. Just floored. I made some pleasant remark, and excused myself. Enough. It would be impossible for us to ever work together again.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0708%20Flower.gif

I'm fully acknowledging this important question. I'll come back to that later. It's bookmarked. :) It needs a very long and careful reply.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:40
Hi Bill,

I recall that around 2012 when all the big predictions were flying around you created your own prediction, based on some insider info...I think... and posted it to Avalon. I know you were sure that 2012 would not be the big deal so many were suggesting it was, but I don't recall it all. It popped into my head a while ago and I tried to search for it but found nothing. Is it still up on Avalon somewhere? It would be interesting to read.

Thanks

At that time I was definitely prepared (and preparing) for possible major changes geopolitically, maybe affecting the infrastructure. I did post about the apparently sober, credible warnings of some major event, astronomical in nature, that would affect and maybe seriously compromise the global power grid. That never transpired — or hasn't transpired yet.

My post may be this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91296-Our-Solar-System-is-Moving-into-a-Potentially-Dangerous-Interstellar-Energy-Cloud&p=1075021&viewfull=1#post1075021), on this thread: (search for "electrical engineer", in quotes to preserve the phrase, in posts of mine)


Our Solar System is Moving into a Potentially Dangerous Interstellar Energy Cloud (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91296-Our-Solar-System-is-Moving-into-a-Potentially-Dangerous-Interstellar-Energy-Cloud)

To complement that, here's the transcript (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bill_ryan_freedom_central_interview_en.html) of my Freedom Central interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ) of November 2009, which may have been my best ever presentation of anything at all (if I may say). The relevant part is here:

~~~




We’ve had insider information ourselves at Camelot. We heard back in April [2009] from the wife of an electrical engineer (http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html) who had suddenly been briefed that he had about three or four years to handle the problem of every transformer in the British National Grid burning out.

We corresponded with the wife of this guy. There were several emails over a three- or four-day period because this guy was away.

And she said: Look, I can’t answer your questions because I’m not a scientist and I’ll put them to him as soon as he returns home.

And we heard nothing else at all because presumably – we can only assume and it felt absolutely real – we could only assume that this guy got home and said: What the hell are you doing? We can’t talk to anyone about this. It’d be too dangerous, and I’ve been threatened. You can’t do this. Please, you shouldn’t have talked to these people.

And then we’ve heard from other people with very, very similar things. Bill Deagle confirms this. There are electrical engineers all over the world working in the public domain who’ve already been briefed that they need to take care of stuff that might possibly happen.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:46
I remember the conversations with 'Charles' some years back.

What happened to him? Was he a good guy, bad guy, misinformation agent, white hat, black hat or just someone who was clever and taking the p*ss or clever but bonkers?

What's he up to now?
Thanks.

All pretty much answered here, I think, in my post #100 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256573&viewfull=1#post1256573).

Spellbound
3rd November 2018, 16:50
You mention that you believe Jesus was a real person, yet you agree that religion was developed as a means to control the masses. Do you believe in God?? Do you take the bible verbatim?? Was Jesus the son of God?? Are you a religious person??


Do you believe in God??


No, not in the Christian sense. There's no omnipotent father figure up there controlling and masterminding it all. That's all a projection of (a) ancient inability to fully understand the universe, and (b) a kind of projection of our desire for a strong, loving parent who'll make everything work out okay.
Do you take the bible verbatim??


No, the Bible is a hugely edited, altered, multiply mistranslated, censored and incomplete quasi-historical document.
Was Jesus the son of God??


No. He was an extraordinarily gifted, inspired and inspiring spiritual teacher — and also a political freedom fighter. He was the husband of Mary Magdalene, and fathered her children: I believe two of them. He survived the crucifixion, which was a real event. But the biblical 'resurrection' was fake news.Are you a religious person??


No. But I'm a very spiritual person. The two are entirely different.


Thank you Bill. I quite agree with your answers here (and yes, there is a big difference between religion and spiritualism).

Dave - Toronto

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:50
I don't believe this question was asked, as i have been going through most of the questions.

What are your thoughts on Alex Collier? Do you believe he was an actual experiencer etc. Does he hold any credibility in your opinion?

I met him, back in 2009, and was personally genuinely impressed with his demeanor and presence. He was striking, and had a very clean energy about him.

But having looked a little more at his material, claims, and [apparent] personal history, I can't ascribe any credibility to his reports or testimony at all. It's a kind of paradox, but I do have to say that.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 16:55
Dear All:

Profound and difficult questions are welcome... as long as the sincere intention is to know the answer.


Hello again, Bill

What is love for you?

Thank you

Limor

It's such a generality, and a widely misused word (or a word used to apply to a multiple spectrum of different things), that it's truly hard to answer.

There's good in the universe, and evil — its opposite. I'm writing this straight out without thinking too much, but good is kind of the intention to create, support, communicate truth, honor the reality and the goals of others, and encourage and empower growth of every kind.

Evil is the intention to interfere, infiltrate, harm, destroy, and/or sabotage all that.

So love is the embodiment of the former. That's all I feel I can really say.

Baby Steps
3rd November 2018, 17:23
Hi

Do you think everybody comes here with a mission and any tips for people to find out what it is?

Do you like Hitchcock movies?

Many thanks

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 17:30
Hi

Do you think everybody comes here with a mission and any tips for people to find out what it is?

Do you like Hitchcock movies?

Many thanks

Yes, everyone has a mission or purpose: often long-term, across many lifetimes. Within that, there can be sub-missions, like something one wants to accomplish this particular lifetime.

How to find out what that is? Regression is really needed, with someone who knows what they're doing.

But another [sometimes major] clue is to be aware of what one's excited by, passionate about, made enthusiastic or energized by. Even if one may be doing something totally different at the time as an occupation or job. The energy that's released in us by connecting with (or even thinking about) a project or goal can be very indicative.

Hitchcock movies? I've seen one or two over the years. I'm not a devotee, as some are. But he was definitely a master film-maker and storyteller.

Ernie Nemeth
3rd November 2018, 17:35
Hi Bill,

This thread was a great read, thanks so much for your honesty, and for allowing us a glimpse into 'the world according to Bill'.

As you may know, because I think it has happened with many others as well, this site has been a real 'game changer' in terms of my understanding of the world. In most cases, what I believed was shattered by its revelations and things I considered inviolate simply melted away, forever disregarded as too simplistic, or not as important as I had originally thought, or completely wrong.

Not to mention personally, I feel I have grown considerably since becoming a member.

On this point My question is this:

Are you aware of the impact your site has on so many people, both members and guests alike? And if so, as I am almost certain you are, what is your take on the situation and how does that factor into what you post and how you comport yourself online?

When I first arrived here on the forum, I was aware of a great power, possibly a combined force, in service to the creator and life. I felt this force surrounding the forum and consciously protecting it from harm. Do you know what I am referring to? Was there a gathering of spiritually powerful personages here at one time (edit: obviously excluding the many still here)? And if so, is that where some of the friction came from, that resulted in many members leaving over a short period some years ago?

Like always, thanks for what you do. It is a service of immeasurable value!

Maybe you were King Arthur...

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 17:49
Hi Bill,

This thread was a great read, thanks so much for your honesty, and for allowing us a glimpse into 'the world according to Bill'.

As you may know, because I think it has happened with many others as well, this site has been a real 'game changer' in terms of my understanding of the world. In most cases, what I believed was shattered by its revelations and things I considered inviolate simply melted away, forever disregarded as too simplistic, or not as important as I had originally thought, or completely wrong.

Not to mention personally, I feel I have grown considerably since becoming a member.

On this point My question is this:

Are you aware of the impact your site has on so many people, both members and guests alike? And if so, as I am almost certain you are, what is your take on the situation and how does that factor into what you post and how you comport yourself online?

When I first arrived here on the forum, I was aware of a great power, possibly a combined force, in service to the creator and life. I felt this force surrounding the forum and consciously protecting it from harm. Do you know what I am referring to? Was there a gathering of spiritually powerful personages here at one time? And if so, is that where some of the friction came from, that resulted in many members leaving over a short period some years ago?

Like always, thanks for what you do. It is a service of immeasurable value!

Maybe you were King Arthur...

Am I aware of the impact Avalon has on so many people, both members and guests alike? Yes, I am. It's not a huge marketing numbers game (see this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) thread!), and in global terms the audience is tiny. But I think we reach the right people, so I'm comfortable with that.

I think we help people a lot sometimes, occasionally change lives (or even save lives), and the enormous library of good information that we've accumulated here is all searchable online.

I'm a huge critic, as many know, of the increasing noise there is on social media. It's really concerning. Many important signals are just drowned out, and it's almost impossible to keep up. In years to come, it WILL be impossible.

I've discussed this in the same thread I referenced above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104868-PURSUING-X-Marketing-money-and-manipulation-in-the-Alternative-Media) (about marketing and money in the alternative media), and it's an issue few are talking about.... and everyone is contributing to. All of us, even me in this new post right now.

It's very hard to see a solution. It's like a vast crowd of people, all yelling at once, desperate for attention. Sometimes even neurotically so. It's all a massive aberration, and the human race has never been in this place before. We have no personal firewalls, no control, and no answers.

I'm mentioning all this because in the cacophony, Avalon is a tiny, calm (yes, calm! :) ), quiet gem. But the right people find us and read us.

TomKat
3rd November 2018, 17:57
Bill, what do you make of the whole supersoldier-in-the-astral while asleep in bed thing that Miles Johnston talks about? And are the people like Randy Kramer mixing up astral with physical experiences? The idea of being time-travel returned to one's own bed after an experience on Mars sure seems like he's mixing up astral and physical.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 18:20
Bill, what do you make of the whole supersoldier-in-the-astral while asleep in bed thing that Miles Johnston talks about? And are the people like Randy Kramer mixing up astral with physical experiences? The idea of being time-travel returned to one's own bed after an experience on Mars sure seems like he's mixing up astral and physical.

Yes, I agree. There's no way any of that can have any grounding in reality.

As I wrote in my post #162 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256817&viewfull=1#post1256817) about Michael Relfe, there are unanswered questions there (pertaining to his own case, claims and documented regression) that I don't think can be dismissed.

But the problem is that I just can NOT see any possible mechanism, no matter how strange or technologically advanced, by which the age regression thing could possibly happen.

happyuk
3rd November 2018, 19:03
Another question about the Charles / Rulers of the world interview.

I distinctly remember Charles saying during the interview that you were a "problem" that needed to be "dealt with", and that he was assigned to be the one to "deal" with you, only to find out that you were far from the easy target he presumed you to be.

1. Did Charles give a specific reason or example of why you were (are?) a problem for those that presume to rule over us? After all, given that we are only a forum of like minded individuals (not trying to belittle Avalon in any way) trying to do something for our planet, and they are immensely powerful individuals that have all those resources at their disposal - what the hell are they scared of?

If my memory serves me correctly you were approached by Charles in the summer of 2010 and prior to this Project Camelot put out some pretty blood-curdling information concerning the aims and objectives (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html) of the so-called 'Anglo Saxon Mission'.

Do you think that it was the putting out of this information that was causing them problems?

2. Do you know if these people, in spite of being rank materialists, still have to adhere to some kind of occultist laws (for want of a better phrase) that basically says they have to inform us of their intentions in some way?

I also remember Charles saying that once attention is brought to plan in any way, that is that last thing they want and that plan is effectively scuppered, if I understood what he said correctly.

But given that they are still smart enough to know that there are certain universal laws that state you cannot do these things totally in secret, behind our backs, and that they have to communicate their intentions in some way (through TV, media, films, books, personalities) I do gain some satisfaction in the possibility of them getting tied in knots each time a dastardly plan is put in motion.

Bill Ryan
3rd November 2018, 19:18
Another question about the Charles / Rulers of the world interview.

I distinctly remember Charles saying during the interview that you were a "problem" that needed to be "dealt with", and that he was assigned to be the one to "deal" with you, only to find out that you were far from the easy target he presumed you to be.

1. Did Charles give a specific reason or example of why you were (are?) a problem for those that presume to rule over us? After all, given that we are only a forum of like minded individuals (not trying to belittle Avalon in any way) trying to do something for our planet, and they are immensely powerful individuals that have all those resources at their disposal - what the hell are they scared of?

If my memory serves me correctly you were approached by Charles in the summer of 2010 and prior to this Project Camelot put out some pretty blood-curdling information concerning the aims and objectives (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html) of the so-called 'Anglo Saxon Mission'.

Do you think that it was the putting out of this information that was causing them problems?

2. Do you know if these people, in spite of being rank materialists, still have to adhere to some kind of occultist laws (for want of a better phrase) that basically says they have to inform us of their intentions in some way.

I also remember Charles saying that once attention is brought to plan in any way, that is that last thing they want and that plan is effectively scuppered.

But given that they are still smart enough to know that there are certain universal laws that state you cannot do these things totally in secret, behind our backs, and that they have to communicate their intentions in some way (through TV, media, films, books, personalities) I do gain some satisfaction in the possibility of them getting tied in knots each time a dastardly plan is put in motion.

~~~

Yes, he said specifically that I was regarded 'as a problem' and that he had been tasked with 'solving' it.

It wasn't that I was 'far from the easy target he presumed me to be'. It was that the order he was given to deal with me coincided with his own desire to make a break from what he was himself entrapped in. (He tried to make his break, but ultimately failed.)

He said that their highly sophisticated predictive software AI computers (which I believe exist, and which have been described by Dr Bill Deagle and others) had forecast that I would quite soon have an audience of tens of millions, not unlike David Icke. So that future expansion had to be cut off at the pass. It needed to be stopped.

Yes, he first contacted me in July 2010. The Anglo-Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) information (which I'm convinced was an accurate report) was published in 2009. I have no idea if there was any connection. As best I recall, he never mentioned it.

The question about whether 'they' have some kind of Code of Honor (or something similar) to inform us of their intentions, however obliquely or enigmatically, I do think has validity. But again, as best I recall, he never referred to that either.

I certainly don't think plans are abandoned simply because some attention may be brought to them. The approach would be analogous to a military one.

To make the case with an extreme example, if there was a planned infantry invasion of one country by another, and the information leaked out, and the invading army of 100,000 found 100 villagers with pitchforks waiting bravely for them, I don't think they'd call it all off. :) (But if the army was faced by a similar army, then of course they might well adapt their strategy, or their weaponry.)

Tangri
4th November 2018, 01:10
"13th october 2017"

My Qs;

I don't know the significance of the Nov 2017 date.

Q- Any thought on Salamon's ring?



I don't know what that is.


I don't know the significance of the Nov 2017 date.

It was the day of question originally has been asked to you.

Any thought on Salamon's ring? -- I don't know what that is

It was mispelled, Correct one is "Any thought on Solomon's ring? "

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 01:45
Any thought on Solomon's ring?

I still didn't know what that was. I looked it up, and I'm afraid I can't make any comment... I really do know nothing about it.

Flash
4th November 2018, 02:00
Any thought on Solomon's ring?

I still didn't know what that was. I looked it up, and I'm afraid I can't make any comment... I really do know nothing about it.

Just for information for the Avalonians, However, what I found interesting is here put in bold by me.


The Seal of Solomon (or Ring of Solomon; Arabic: خاتم سليمان‎ Khātam Sulaymān) is the signet ring attributed to King Solomon in medieval Jewish tradition and in Islamic and Western occultism. It was often depicted in either a pentagram or hexagram shape; the latter also known as the Star of David in Jewish tradition.

This ring variously gave Solomon the power to command demons, jinn (genie), or to speak with animals. Due to the proverbial wisdom of Solomon, his signet ring, or its supposed design, it came to be seen as an amulet or talisman, or a symbol or character in medieval and Renaissance-era magic, occultism, and alchemy.

The legend of the Seal of Solomon was developed primarily by medieval Arabic writers, who related that the ring was engraved by God and was given to the king directly from heaven. The ring was made from brass and iron, and the two parts were used to seal written commands to good and evil spirits, respectively. In one tale, a demon, either Asmodeus, or Sakhr, obtained possession of the ring and ruled in Solomon's stead for forty days. In a variant of the tale of the ring of Polycrates from Herodotus, the demon eventually threw the ring into the sea, where it was swallowed by a fish, caught by a fisherman, and served to Solomon.[1]

In Islamic eschatology, the Beast of the Earth is equipped with both the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon and uses the latter to stamp the nose of the unbelievers.[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon

Interesting that Islam think that both Jewish symbols, Staff of Moses and Seal of Solomon, are equipping the Beast of the Earth (which would be the devil???)

What I heard is that dark magicians and many high elite do have an iron ring. When you see someone wearing one, you know what you are dealing with.

Iancorgi
4th November 2018, 03:21
Sawadee Kraap Bill,

Which three questions would you like to be asked?

Thank you for your dedication. Keep up the great work.

shaberon
4th November 2018, 04:21
Hi Bill,

a while back, you started this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94994-Ladakh-the-last-unspoiled-mountain-kingdom&highlight=ladakh) about Ladakh and you said you have a few more things to say about it.

It's kind of hand-in-hand with making Zen and the Art the first book to read.

Being personally a proponent of the Ladakhi system, and seeing Seal of Solomon just mentioned, our view is not that of Islam towards the symbol, instead, it is used in conjunction with the swastika.

What more could you say about Ladakh and environs, and does it seem possible they may have proprietorship on the authentic
use of such symbols, compared to which, most other religions have little pieces, and many of those, incorrectly?

OmeyocaN777
4th November 2018, 07:21
You said that you believe in a recycle of the souls as a result of the white light trap.
Then my question is :
1) Does the soul reincarnate only as human or even as animal, insect or plant also? And if yes (animal/plant), then is this a linear process?

I'll share my take on the white light trap as I saw there is a great interest (how couldn't be?).
2) I experience in an ayahuasca trip that I had inside me (heart area chakra) a black hole, like a frequency black color wave 'mirror'.
From my understanding and my research (even CIA have done a similar research/black and white holes/figure b-diagram of the cosmic egg/24.from big bang to torus)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1QC8XYstrUr0m2WL3_kbRTP9iPQpyOhngWGqlcRwGYnjwKBI_cLk-WQl8
White holes are the entrance and black holes are the exit (of the matter).
So my point is 'further inside you'll go, further outside you'll be'.
What's your take on that theory Bill?

Limor Wolf
4th November 2018, 11:10
Dear All:

Profound and difficult questions are welcome... as long as the sincere intention is to know the answer.


Hello again, Bill

What is love for you?

Thank you

Limor

It's such a generality, and a widely misused word (or a word used to apply to a multiple spectrum of different things), that it's truly hard to answer.

There's good in the universe, and evil — its opposite. I'm writing this straight out without thinking too much, but good is kind of the intention to create, support, communicate truth, honor the reality and the goals of others, and encourage and empower growth of every kind.

Evil is the intention to interfere, infiltrate, harm, destroy, and/or sabotage all that.

So love is the embodiment of the former. That's all I feel I can really say.

Thank you. Not a question, but the lyrics to the song 'This Journey' by Theda Phonix (http://www.thedaphoenix.com/about.html). thankful for a close friend that introduced me to her music
~~~~~~~~~

We never know where this journey will lead
We just got to do our best
Cause we create it with our choices
And the spirit do the rest
And no matter what happens to me
I trust this life
For I love this journey
For I love this life

Such a gift that I've been given
And I can remember the mystery
When I was just a little little child
Thinking about what is this existence
Sometimes I think, sometimes I dream
That there is a purpose to this all thing
And then I choose to let go
Cause maybe the purpose is just to let it flow

Let it go..let it go..

Let it be..let it be..

Just live my life the way that makes me happy
What else what else is the point
Finding the joy in all the little things
Finding the joy in everything that it brings
Finding the joy in what IS
Finding the joy and letting it live

Oh, it just keeps unfolding
Oh, this journey - this river - is flowing
And all I must do
is do my best to live my truth

Live my truth, live my truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSm28y4LAsQ

~

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 12:35
Hi Bill,

a while back, you started this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94994-Ladakh-the-last-unspoiled-mountain-kingdom&highlight=ladakh) about Ladakh and you said you have a few more things to say about it.

It's kind of hand-in-hand with making Zen and the Art the first book to read.

Being personally a proponent of the Ladakhi system, and seeing Seal of Solomon just mentioned, our view is not that of Islam towards the symbol, instead, it is used in conjunction with the swastika.

What more could you say about Ladakh and environs, and does it seem possible they may have proprietorship on the authentic
use of such symbols, compared to which, most other religions have little pieces, and many of those, incorrectly?

Yes, I visited Ladakh three times back in 1988-89. It's a quite wonderful region that is politically in northern India, but lies on the north side of the Himalayan rain shadow, and is basically a high altitude, mountainous desert on the Tibetan plateau. The very beautiful people are deeply Buddhist, and it's JUST like being in Tibet, minus the Chinese takeover and widespread destruction of the Tibetan culture.

But I'm not a cultural historian to the degree that your question demands. (Or invites!) I just don't have that level of knowledge. I do suggest you might bump that thread and post again there to ask questions and share some information. Many members would find it really interesting.


Ladakh: the last, unspoiled mountain kingdom (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94994-Ladakh-the-last-unspoiled-mountain-kingdom)

From my opening post on that thread:


~~~




Just a tiny bit about Ladakh, which a surprisingly large number of people have not heard of:

http://projectavalon.net/Ladakh.gif



Although it's politically in the northernmost tip of India, it's geographically on the Tibetan plateau.



Most of Ladakh is arid, rocky, mountainous desert, at an altitude of 11,500 ft or higher. When there, you might as well be in Tibet -- minus the Chinese occupation and all the cultural and physical destruction that the Chinese wrought.



But the local people are from a wonderful, beautiful, wise, ancient, Buddhist culture, living an ingenious, healthy, and brilliantly organized, agricultural, pre-industrial life -- and who, like the Tibetans two or three generations ago, could teach us everything we need to know about how to live life sustainably, non-violently, abundantly, and above all spiritually.

I long ago lost all my photographs. However, I can recount one eternal moment when I hiked up to see a tiny abandoned monastery on a rocky bluff above the trail I was on.

But it was not abandoned; there was a monk there. We had not a word of shared language of any kind, but without hesitation he greeted me like a brother -- despite my strange appearance, and even stranger clothes. (I was wearing an improvised cotton sheikh's headdress, and the darkest of dark glasses, and little of my face was visible: I probably looked like The Elephant Man. Furthermore, I was hiding under a huge green "Stop Acid Rain" Greenpeace umbrella, all protection against the searing desert sun. Most aliens would have looked more human than I did. :) )

But none of this even made the monk blink. We sat on a low wall together, silently, side by side, while he shared his bag of apricots with me, straight off the tree. I was with him for just half an hour, yet it remains one of the formative experiences of my life.

A billion dollars could not have bought the depth of those 30 minutes sitting silently with the Ladakhi holy man.

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 12:45
You said that you believe in a recycle of the souls as a result of the white light trap.
Then my question is :
1) Does the soul reincarnate only as human or even as animal, insect or plant also? And if yes (animal/plant), then is this a linear process?

I'll share my take on the white light trap as I saw there is a great interest (how couldn't be?).
2) I experience in an ayahuasca trip that I had inside me (heart area chakra) a black hole, like a frequency black color wave 'mirror'.
From my understanding and my research (even CIA have done a similar research/black and white holes/figure b-diagram of the cosmic egg/24.from big bang to torus)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1QC8XYstrUr0m2WL3_kbRTP9iPQpyOhngWGqlcRwGYnjwKBI_cLk-WQl8
White holes are the entrance and black holes are the exit (of the matter).
So my point is 'further inside you'll go, further outside you'll be'.
What's your take on that theory Bill?

Well, I never exactly said that I 'believe in a recycle of the souls as a result of the white light trap'.

We reincarnate anyway. We're the free-will driver of that, ourselves. The direct analogy is that if one's (say) 40 years old, and has had a bunch of engaging life experiences here with many projects and goals in progress, one's already lived nearly 15,000 24-hour days on Planet Earth.

So why not 100% voluntarily come back for another day to continue, when life is so interesting, challenging, productive, and stimulating, where so much is yet unfinished, and also to a place where one has so many friends?

I can't comment at all on your ayahuasca journey. I've never done one, don't intend to, and have no view on what that experience might have been all about.

WhiteFeather
4th November 2018, 13:54
What are your thoughts on whom actually created the human species. Re: Hominids and Alien DNA?

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 14:30
What are your thoughts on whom actually created the human species. Re: Hominids and Alien DNA?

Well, not so much 'created', but maybe enhanced. I'm not a geneticist, and I don't know if this ever could be proven or substantiated. But it does seem to me to be plausible that if we're someone's science experiment (and we may well be), then there have been some inputs to the experimental subjects to see what happens — or, to accelerate progress towards a defined goal.

As I wrote in my post #137, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256681&viewfull=1#post1256681):

There are two kinds of scientific experiment (basically).


To attempt to achieve a desired result (e.g. making a new alloy or chemical compound with certain specific properties).
Just to see what happens if you do X, Y, or Z.

Regarding who may have done this? No idea. Even after all these years of contactee and abductee reports, I have no clarity at all on what races are out there, what their individual contact history has been with Planet Earth, or where they're from.

I speculate that there are many (Henry Deacon said 'over 40'; Clifford Stone said 57) — which seems very believable — and if I were told there were 1000, I'd not be surprised.

Their agendas, just like those of Europeans encountering indigenous races in recent colonial history, are likely to span the entire spectrum from altruistic to directly exploitative and uncaring/harmful.

There's absolutely NO reason to assume that those races with more technological prowess are also more spiritually and ethically advanced. On Planet Earth, simply among we humans, this is clearly NOT the case. :)

It sometimes staggers me that this isn't more obvious to more people, who insist in a naive, utopian way that ETs must surely be 'highly spiritually evolved'. (We technologically advanced 'westerners' absolutely aren't.)

:focus:

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 14:49
Sawadee Kraap Bill,

Which three questions would you like to be asked?

Thank you for your dedication. Keep up the great work.

Of everything I've been asked so far, that's the one post that's had me staring at the screen for longest. (Truly. No exaggeration.)

Of course, there are some things I'd be happy to talk about more, but I really don't feel I can just kick into my own self-reflexive Q-and-A. That's not really the point here... or else I'd just launch into some long personal presentation and not take any questions at all. :)

~~~

As a PS, though, I might say this: I was expecting a few questions about the moderation of the forum. Not mandatory! Whatsoever. :) But I was just a little surprised there haven't been one or two more.

WhiteFeather
4th November 2018, 16:18
In your opinion Bill, what would be some of your best alternative choices in treating cancer.

Bill Ryan
4th November 2018, 16:29
In your opinion Bill, what would be some of your best alternative choices in treating cancer.

What immediately comes to mind are any, or any combination, of


Radionics
Rife therapy
Ozone therapy
MMS
Vitamin C megadose therapy
Chelation therapy (to remove heavy metals: a support for just about anything)
Coffee enemas (to detox: similarly supportive for any healing program)
Water fasting
Diet optimization to create an alkaline environment.



Regression sessions may also be helpful to identify any past-life influence on one's current body condition. This can often be underestimated.

Not an exclusive list! There may be many effective protocols which I know little about.

avatar
4th November 2018, 19:48
Do you personally feel you have changed your timeline in this life? How easy/hard is it? What is your advice for doing this?

Jad
4th November 2018, 20:19
First off thanks Bill for creating this thread, and I hope it reaches more pages than the “Truth about CG” thread! Second I want to thank everyone for their amazing questions and I hope you guys come up with even more cause it’s a very interesting thread indeed!
I have some sort of a question/suggestion for you Bill: You mentioned that you are sitting tight on that story of yours that you described as the strangest thing you ever witnessed in your life. I am pretty sure that there are lots of folks other than me who are actually very interested in learning about this story. Have you ever considered making a novel about it? You can even publish it as fiction if you want, and get it out there in the Mass Consciousness. Wether people believe or not is not important cause either way it will expand their awareness to new concepts and ideas that they never thought of before. Afterall you do remind me in a way of Graham Hancock with your eloquence and clear mind and he too wrote some fiction novels and I am certain that you can create something special.

Hazelfern
4th November 2018, 20:40
It never occurred to me. Don't i feel like a POS.
Bill, if you will please tell of the challenge to host the greatest forum on the internet. I do love this place where many feel right at home.
If you will....:flower::star:

Had to add emojis for Foxie

sunwings
4th November 2018, 22:32
If I did a keyword search for "I don´t believe in coincidences" your posts would come up over and over again Bill. :bigsmile:

Could you expand on your own experiences of life showing itself in this way?

shaberon
5th November 2018, 01:45
The very beautiful people are deeply Buddhist, and it's JUST like being in Tibet, minus the Chinese takeover and widespread destruction of the Tibetan culture.

But I'm not a cultural historian to the degree that your question demands.

I didn't really put it very clearly. There isn't a question historically about symbolism, but by "proprietorship", I mean the difference between...post something about those two symbols, "Star of David" and swastika on the internet, and you know what's likely to happen...versus the speechless moment shared with the Ladakhi monk who had interiorized them the right way. Same symbols. In other words, we tend to make a huge confused chatter about things that never entered his mind, in a similar way to the C. I. A. being pleased that nothing Americans believe in is real. Both cases are like misunderstanding fragments instead of clearly seeing the whole thing.

I was impressed by that meeting. If the site seemed abandoned it's likely to have been sacred for some reason and he was acting as a guardian.

Baby Steps
5th November 2018, 13:01
Hi again

There have been some recent leavers from PA including the mighty Turya.

Did they leave because you said that the Q phenomenon was a bit cult-ish?

Was there a conspiracy to silence or de platform anybody?

Were you concerned that PA was becoming too much of a conservative or Q conspiracy site?

Many thanks

Bill Ryan
5th November 2018, 19:38
Do you personally feel you have changed your timeline in this life? How easy/hard is it? What is your advice for doing this?

That's a pretty wonderful question, and twists and turns quite a long way down the rabbit hole. :)

Timeline shifts are VERY subtle, and can usually only be identified afterwards. Our lives are a little like sitting in the carriage of a train, able to see out the windows to the side (and maybe just a little bit ahead), but we're NOT in the driver's cab at the very front of the train, looking straight ahead and able to see clearly when the points are switching.

My favorite reference for this (and I think maybe the best possible one, even 20 years later) is the wonderful, unique, ingenious and funny 1998 film Sliding Doors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_Doors), with Gwyneth Paltrow. For those who've never seen this, it's all about a split in the heroine's timeline, and all the events that then play out in the two parallel realities.

Following the timeline split, the movie also very cleverly splits in two, showing the two timelines diverging simultaneously: not with a split screen, but with alternating scenes, with Gwyneth Paltrow being given a makeover hairdo on one of the timelines so that the particular version of her reality we're looking at can be easily distinguished.

The VERY clever thing about this movie —and I've experienced EXACTLY this myself, 100% for sure — is how at the very end, the two divergent 'loops' kind of join together again, and everything is resolved. I can't recommend it too highly.

I really do believe this kind of thing happens maybe much more often that some are aware. As I said, in my own case, it definitely did in one complex and fascinating circumstance. My own 'loop' lasted 5 years. (And, of course, so did the loop for the other person involved. We even compared notes about it, and everything fitted perfectly together like two jigsaw pieces.) To tell the entire story would be the equivalent of storyboarding the entire Sliding Doors movie — which is actually two movies in one, of course. It's do-able, but it's beyond the scope of a post like this. (Or, any post!)

I've been a student of this phenomenon for years now, and I've listed in my journal half a dozen or so pivotal events in my life where I believe my timeline did indeed split. I do NOT think a new universe is generated for us at every microsecond of our existence, for instance depending on whether we have tea or coffee for breakfast, or what we decide to wear that day. Maybe there's a tiny divergent split at times like that, but the two parallel realities very soon come right back together again, seconds, minutes or hours later.

But MAJOR divergent splits, that keep on diverging, may occur at certain pivotal points, perhaps not too many. Those points are likely to be personal major Yes-No decisions we make when presented with clear major live choices: like


Whether to go with the potential of a certain new relationship, or to commit to a marriage.
Whether to go with the potential of a certain new job, career path, or educational opportunity.
Whether to go with the potential of living in another country.

There are obviously other potential variations on this (maybe like making the choice whether to commit a crime or not!), but in my case the above three are the prime ones. When searching back through one's own life looking for timeline splits, I'd suggest those three areas are the ones to examine closely.

Like a huge iceberg, the above summary is just a tiny, tiny, TINY tip of it. :)

Can one manage or control this deliberately? If there's a way, I have absolutely no idea how to do that. But as an interesting linked reference (which is definitely connected), do see my remarks about Dr Bruce Goldberg's hypnotic PROgression, in my post #138 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256685&viewfull=1#post1256685).

Bill Ryan
5th November 2018, 19:44
First off thanks Bill for creating this thread, and I hope it reaches more pages than the “Truth about CG” thread! Second I want to thank everyone for their amazing questions and I hope you guys come up with even more cause it’s a very interesting thread indeed!
I have some sort of a question/suggestion for you Bill: You mentioned that you are sitting tight on that story of yours that you described as the strangest thing you ever witnessed in your life. I am pretty sure that there are lots of folks other than me who are actually very interested in learning about this story. Have you ever considered making a novel about it? You can even publish it as fiction if you want, and get it out there in the Mass Consciousness. Whether people believe or not is not important cause either way it will expand their awareness to new concepts and ideas that they never thought of before. After all you do remind me in a way of Graham Hancock with your eloquence and clear mind and he too wrote some fiction novels and I am certain that you can create something special.

Yes, I'd never thought of that. :)

But just as a rider, I do have to say that claimed-fact-packaged-as-fiction never sits very well with me. And I suspect, not with that many people.

One can read a novel, knowing that the author has stated right up front that this is all based on fact with a few names changed (an example is Sean David Morton's Sands of Time series). But even with that in mind, it's often STILL hard to figure out what's fact and what's fiction.

So it comes over as a form of disinformation — though of course there's no intention to deceive.

Bill Ryan
5th November 2018, 20:07
It never occurred to me. Don't i feel like a POS.
Bill, if you will please tell of the challenge to host the greatest forum on the internet. I do love this place where many feel right at home.
If you will....:flower::star:

Had to add emojis for Foxie

The challenges? Well, once the whole thing got going, and gained its own momentum, it's not really been that hard to keep it all going well.

We regularly make small tweaks and improvements (like adding new sections, figuring out how to embed Vimeo videos, adding FAQs, building the Avalon Library, even adding new smilies!). And Paul is ALWAYS improving things behind the scenes, such as reinforcing security, optimizing backups, and much else that as a non-geek I might not even properly understand and which most members might never know about.

Establishing a really good mods team is a big part of making things work well, and that (like forum membership itself) is a kind of rolling road as good people come and go (or take personal breaks) all for 100% utterly legitimate life reasons.

As many reading this will know, we spend a LOT of time collectively trying to get decisions right, almost always acting as a consensus. Very rarely do I ever make an executive diktat decision. ("Guys, listen up: this is what we're doing, and we're doing it now.") We spend a lot of time on considering membership applications, and that really does seem to work... though occasionally we do make mistakes (usually ones involving being too trusting or lenient). It's not a perfect process, but it does seem to be a very workable one.

We also spend a lot of time considering reports: many of them are easily handled (like asking for a post to be moved or deleted, or a thread title changed), but others, which open up major issues for us to think about, may start an ongoing mods discussion that could last for weeks. And we do communicate extensively with members behind the scenes, as some of you will be well aware. That's all part of the ongoing routine maintenance. Or, part of the quality service.

Finally, although this is nothing at all to do with the question asked here, I'd like to take the opportunity, if I may, to state on record once and for all that Private Messages really are Private. A tiny number of members have (sincerely or otherwise) occasionally raised the idea (or even their suspicion or definite belief) that somehow we (or I) read everything. That's so flat-out not true, it can be exasperating.

While Paul tells me he could in theory maybe dig out PM text from deep within the database (because it's all in there somewhere: it has to be) — he's never once tried to do that, and regular non-geek mortals like myself wouldn't have a clue how to access another's PMs even if I had a gun pointed to my head. And even if I did have a clue, which I totally don't, I certainly wouldn't do it anyway. Private means Private. Period.

To close this reply, maybe (in retrospect!) the above diatribe about PMs really does have some relevance. That's because one of the challenges of the job is tolerating the incorrect beliefs that can occasionally start to circulate, and (every now and then, from the vitriol of unsubscribed members posting elsewhere on the net) the deliberate smears.

:flower:

Bill Ryan
5th November 2018, 20:30
If I did a keyword search for "I don´t believe in coincidences" your posts would come up over and over again Bill. :bigsmile:

Could you expand on your own experiences of life showing itself in this way?

Well, this is another deep metaphysical rabbit hole, rather like the one I described in my post #292 just above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1258251&viewfull=1#post1258251).

I don't for a moment believe in faux synchronicities like 11:11, and the like. (Sorry! :P ) But if one's pondering a question, and then the next day one gets a helpful message out of the blue from an old friend that seems to cast light on the dilemma — without even being asked — then that does seem to be meaningful, and to be noted.

To some degree (not totally! But partially), we do seem to script at least some aspects of our lives. There's definitely more going on in our realities than Newtonian dumb mechanical cause-and-effect. 'Magical' and remarkable things can and do happen, and what is often very incorrectly understood as 'karma' plays a big effect.

As I wrote in my post #154 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256786&viewfull=1#post1256786), 'karma' is simply our OWN self-moderation (and self-scripting) based on the need to finish unfinished business of any kind one might imagine, resume having a good time with old friends, resume trying to get our own back on old enemies, paying debts, correcting mistakes, making amends, continuing to work towards long-term goals, and so on.

So the events and people we 'need' to meet, in order to do all that, regularly tend to manifest as if scripted in a play or movie. And the other people involved are always part of this invisible storyboarding, too.

Because if I want to hang out again with you this lifetime, you're probably happy to hang out with me, too. Or if you and I have a longterm dispute that's been rolling along for 100 lifetimes, then you're just as hooked by that as I am. So the continuation for yet one more lifetime kind of has both of our votes. :)

Bill Ryan
5th November 2018, 21:06
Hi again

There have been some recent leavers from PA including the mighty Turya.

Did they leave because you said that the Q phenomenon was a bit cult-ish?

Was there a conspiracy to silence or de platform anybody?

Were you concerned that PA was becoming too much of a conservative or Q conspiracy site?

Many thanks

It was hard to understand what happened back at the beginning of September, two months ago. The trouble started when the mods decided to temporarily suspend KiwiElf for 3 days, and edina for 7. That was entirely based on the content and emotion they'd expressed in some posts, and certainly nothing to do with their interests, beliefs, passions or personal commitments.

Such was the sensitivity of that issue (which we were fully aware of), the mods debated it for several days. During that time, both Paul and myself abstained from the discussion, and the decision. The rest of the mods team made the call themselves as a consensus.

I extended a personal e-mail to KiwiElf the day after his suspension lifted, which I can reproduce here.

~~~



Hi there, Shane — this is Bill here, though I'm dropping you this note on behalf of the whole mods team.

The sincere message is simple: we're looking forward to you logging in again, and you've been clear to do so for the last 3/4 of a day. Your contributions through tirelessly reporting the Q posts to the forum community have been really valuable, and if you're able to read the forum, you'll see you've been missed.

You may be surprised to hear me say that, but it's true: we all have to have the data, and that's what you've been reporting so very ably. It's an important job you've been doing, and it's been a lot of daily work over the months. Paul has been substituting in your absence, but he too (of course) very much hopes you'll pick up where you left off as soon as you can, and joins me in saying that.

Take care of yourself down there, and do rejoin the fray when you can.

All our best to you ~ Bill and the Avalon Mods Team
~~~

He never replied, and he never returned to post again. He's still a member in good standing. So is edina. We bear no ill-will to either of them.

turiya was never suspended at all (until much later: read on). His last comment about myself can be seen here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1246441&viewfull=1#post1246441). (I can quote it, as it was a public post, still in view.)



Hey Bill, come to think of it, it seems you're starting to sound more & more like the MSM (Main Stream Media). Why stop at the term 'cult' or 'cultists'. Perhaps you would just like to call us just a bunch of 'deplorables', and be done with it.... Oh yeah, I forget, somebody has already used that one. Ahhhh, but that would be showing colors - political colors - Its better not go so far, eh?

I replied (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-a-Very-Bad-Day-Scenario-for-some-elite-swamp-critters&p=1246565&viewfull=1#post1246565):
I'm calling you out on this. You might want to edit your post to make your points in a rather more friendly and pleasant way. :)

If you don't know me by now, you never will do. And you should, by now, too. You (and you're not the only one) seem to have lost quite some balance.


There was more in both posts, of course, and turiya replied again. He didn't edit his post, apparently standing by his words. But after that, he pretty much took himself away.

After posting a significant amount of invective about Avalon and myself elsewhere on the internet, which happened to be noticed by one of the other moderators, the team (again, without my input at all) made the decision to unsubscribe him.

I'll make my 'political' position clear about any of these potentially sensitive issues.


I'm not an American citizen, but I'm a Trump supporter. I believe he's an unplanned and unexpected wild card that gives us a theoretical chance against the agendas of the NWO. (I was a Margaret Thatcher supporter, too. She played a similar role, but the NWO got rid of her in the end.)
I'm an Alex Jones supporter. (But I do recognize that there are one or two anomalies in his presented views that do need explanation.)
I'm a BREXIT supporter. (I'd probably oppose anything that was supported by the EU.)
I stand against the kind of mass migration that presents a grave risk (which I believe has been carefully and deliberately NWO-engineered) of destroying cultures and cultural traditions.
I suspect there have been 4 'Qanons' to date (maybe 5: I've lost count!). My concern with that phenomenon is the cult-like response in some followers. I'm NOT talking about forum members here. I'm talking about America 'out there'.
I have no problem with the informational content of any of the 'Q drops'.
I support the healthy continuance of all the three current 'Q' forum threads. But in order not to add any fuel to real or imagined fires, I undertook a while back not to make any comments that might be seen as inflammatory or provocative. (The same goes with any discussion regarding Trump.)
The mods have a range of personal views about this, as can be expected for a bunch of people with different backgrounds, different nationalities, and different personalities. The mods also have differing views about Trump. And maybe about everything. :)
For anyone to suggest that I somehow sound like the mainstream media is either a cheap, crass, deliberate smear, or a remark that (if sincerely believed) shows a very great deal of unintelligence and unawareness.

Spellbound
6th November 2018, 00:40
Bill, in your opinion, will there be a Project Bluebeam / false flag ET invasion / threat launched by TPTB at any point in the future. I was surprised when JP Farrell mentioned it recently as his belief (he said it could actually be put on the fast track, so to speak, as I recall). I know Carol Rosin mentioned it many years back as told to her by Von Braun referring to it as the last card to play after terrorism had run it's course. Someone mentioned in an interview last year (can't remember who) that the Phoenix Lights were perhaps a test run for a Project Bluebeam type of thing (which struck me as a possibility). What are your thoughts on this coming to fruition at some point in our future?

Dave - Toronto

Hazelfern
6th November 2018, 02:13
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVMGVSEyA

Mr. Ryan, is this a fair shake on history regarding you and the project Avalon forum?

~~~

I've not listened to it yet. Do I have to? :)

(That's actually a serious question.)

Maybe you could summarize a few concise questions for me, and then I'll be very happy to respond.

No please don’t, it’s unpleasant to the ears.

Basically Kerry states you were GIVEN project Avalon, to take care of yourself. My question is; Where you in-fact given project Avalon? Kerry also states project Avalon was created together as a sister site. Initially the site was for ’preppers’. Kerry states you became a prepper.

Was Project Avalon given to you? Was project Avalon initially a ‘prepper’ site and social platform for people to socialize?

She states she needed to teach you how to work a camera. Did she teach you filmmaking? She states you failed your mission and she carried it on from there. Do you know what mission she may be referring to? Something in regards to failing the mission in this life. Kerry states you may have been King Arthur, and you don’t like that story very much. Kerry and another (Clairvoyant maybe) through past life recall believe you maybe King Arthur... Do you believe yourself to be King Arthur? Your key witnesses believed they were Knights of the Round Table?

Did you have a girlfriend wanting you to be the lead interviewer during your time with Kerry? Behind the scenes this alleged girlfriend wanted you to get rid of Kerry?

Kerry says you made a big mistake and she hopes you’ll “Pull the sword from the stone again?” That may be an inference as to a return to project Camelot. Seeing as you were a guest on the monetized video, are you considering a return to Camelot?

Apologies for the format.

Sincerely Mr. Ryan, thank you for taking the time.

Well a couple of riders, at the very start of my reply, may be helpful to add some read-between-the-lines context.


I've been answering these question in sequence, as I think you will see. My protocol is to thank the post, then respond. (If I've not thanked it yet, it means I've not reached it yet. If I seem to miss something completely, then just bump (repeat) the question, as it will definitely only mean I've been diverted or interrupted, and accidentally lost the place.)

I came upon this question, and decided to take Mara, my dog, for a walk — in the pouring rain. I now feel a little better able to respond. :)



Kerry is like the impossible sister I never had. Richard Dolan said it perfectly (and brilliantly), referring (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50532-Gordon-Novel-has-passed-away--3-October-2012-&p=1252972&viewfull=1#post1252972) a few weeks ago to the late Gordon Novel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50532-Gordon-Novel-has-passed-away).




[I]"Gordon, of all the people I love, I hate you the most, and of all the people I hate, I love you the most."


So there are others in the community who are very flawed, and my criticism of them has been fair, honest, straight, but sometimes relatively unforgiving. In Kerry's case, I can't bear ill-will against her. She's my sister. But with that in mind, read the following answers to your questions.
~~~

We started Avalon together, in August 2008. It was originally a resource index for personal and spiritual growth, sustainability, optimal self-health, and so on. The forum was conceived as an adjunct to that.

But as I wrote here in my post #89 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256551&viewfull=1#post1256551), the forum took off like a wild rocket. We had 7,000 fully active and enthusiastic members within 3 weeks, and a moderators team who had zero experience and didn't even know each other. It was chaos. :) But that told us that the forum really was the heart and soul of the project.

Kerry didn't 'give' me Avalon. I remember a nuclear firefight we had at one point (we had a few), in late 2008 or early 2009, when we were literally yelling at each other. The neighbors probably heard it half a mile away. I told her that she could take Camelot, and I'd take Avalon. That was kind of burned in my memory.

But the separation didn't actually happen until late 2009. It was crystal clear that we could no longer work together, and I already had the perfect lifeboat. (Not so much a 'lifeboat'. More a ship-to-ship transfer. :) )

I wasn't ever a member of the so-called 'prepper' community. But after I arrived in Ecuador, in 2011, I set about creating a community which (the plan was!) could withstand anything. (I still have my ham radio, ready to go.)

Two things happened:


The community failed, dramatically and catastrophically.
The 'prepping' was never needed.

Yes, she taught me how to use a video camera (then, they worked with DVC tapes: no digital memory), and to edit using Final Cut Pro.

I did not fail in my mission. :)

Here's an interesting anecdote. A young Avalon member came to visit me in July last year, passing through Ecuador. I'd met her a number of times before. She was 25, and one of those delightful, featherlight, sparkling-bright young people who is staggeringly spiritually aware, able and mature for her age.

She told me she had a message for me, that she'd received suddenly and clearly during meditation, and it was important. Of course, I was intrigued.

We went for a walk, and she told me that my mission was complete, and that I no longer needed to worry or fret about always having to do more. She said the battle had been won, that Camelot had been a major part of that tipping point, and that while I could continue to work if I wanted to, there was actually no need to. Because now, everything was going to work out.

That was so astonishing to hear, that I couldn't really make any comment at the time, and can't now. :) But I've never forgotten it.

I don't think I was King Arthur. However, a couple of people (or maybe 3) have all told me that in the last few years, entirely independently of each other. But I've never recalled that myself. Even if I was King Arthur, it doesn't matter.

The girlfriend that Kerry was referring to is Ruth Huber, in Switzerland. She can be seen translating on stage in the conference we hosted in 2009, and my keystone presentation can be seen here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExZZ4mqv3T4). Ruth is there, too.

Ruth was well aware that my meeting her might be a problem for Kerry, and the very first thing that she did was send Camelot a $300 donation to show Kerry that she meant well. But the moment Kerry met her, which was quite soon after, she (Kerry) was unrelentingly hostile. That never abated. After a short while, Ruth (who is very perceptive, and a spiritual teacher and counselor) grew to dislike Kerry intensely.

Finally, I made no 'mistakes'. :)

And regarding a 'return to Camelot', every now and then the thought crosses my mind. It'd be a little like Steve Jobs returning to Apple in 1997 to fix the company and turn everything around.

But that would be impossible. Three weeks ago, when Bob Dean passed, and Kerry (very kindly) brought me on to the tribute livestream broadcast, we did a reasonable job together, especially as it was the first time we'd done any kind of show jointly since 2012. Some people who've heard the show (http://youtu.be/vEwPxiBmqYc) were generous enough to say that they think I kept it all together, and I'd not disagree.

Despite Bob's sad passing, it was a kind of feel-good moment. It was a privilege to be able to say a few things on air to honor him. After the show, she and I had a few words on Skype to close off.

Then Kerry, with every good intention and with zero malice of any kind, said something (about me/to me) that was so inaccurate, inappropriate, and utterly divorced from reality that I was literally stopped in my tracks and had no idea how to respond.

I wasn't even upset. Just floored. I made some pleasant remark, and excused myself. Enough. It would be impossible for us to ever work together again.

:flower:

Spoken as a true diplomat.

She also said that Project Avalon mods are people 'in the know' or something along those lines.

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 03:00
Bill, in your opinion, will there be a Project Bluebeam / false flag ET invasion / threat launched by TPTB at any point in the future. I was surprised when JP Farrell mentioned it recently as his belief (he said it could actually be put on the fast track, so to speak, as I recall). I know Carol Rosin mentioned it many years back as told to her by Von Braun referring to it as the last card to play after terrorism had run it's course. Someone mentioned in an interview last year (can't remember who) that the Phoenix Lights were perhaps a test run for a Project Bluebeam type of thing (which struck me as a possibility). What are your thoughts on this coming to fruition at some point in our future?

Dave - Toronto

Well, it has to be a theoretical possibility: that of a NWO martial law global police state ushered in (and maybe demanded by the people, terrified and wanting protection) because of an apparent 'alien threat'.

It is interesting that Tom DeLonge's TTSA keeps on referring to the 'threat'. Almost as if the public were being primed.

Of course, some ETs may well be hostile, or in other subtle ways malevolent. (Or, at best, their interests may be incompatible with ours.) But if there was going to be an invasion, they'd have been smart enough to do it long before we developed 21st century weapons. They could have chosen their strategic moment any time in the last 10,000 years. Why wait till now?

***

An anecdote that may be of interest. We once asked Henry Deacon about Project Blue Beam. His reply was that to stage a false flag invasion, a holographic light show wouldn't be necessary: the classified military services could 'fill the skies' (his words) with their own solid, real, highly advanced craft.

:)

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 03:24
Spoken as a true diplomat.

[Kerry] also said that Project Avalon mods are people 'in the know' or something along those lines.

It's becoming clear I have to say more about this. onawah asked here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1257806&viewfull=1#post1257806):
Bill, would you be comfortable going into more detail about your following remarks? To which I replied in my post #258 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1257879&viewfull=1#post1257879):

I'm fully acknowledging this important question. I'll come back to that later. It's bookmarked. :) It needs a very long and careful reply.

I've not listened to Kerry's interview, but man oh man, her view of reality (and history!) differs very substantially from mine. If she really said that 'the mods were in the know', that's true, inasmuch as the longstanding moderators, as very close trusted colleagues, all know what really went down at Camelot in 2009-2010. So do my closest friends.

Over the years, I've mentioned one or two things peripherally in posts here and there. I've let it all drop, and moved on. The community didn't need the drama, and Kerry didn't need the bad publicity. Our early work was too valuable for me set about tarnishing Camelot's name myself.

But for some reason that defeats me, Kerry keeps on bringing this up. The problem is that what she seems to sincerely believe happened, just isn't what happened at all.

This is very difficult. We're not talking about small things here. The issues were major. And as I mentioned above, Kerry's a kind of sister. It's very hard for me to overtly criticize her. With the Mark Richards issue, as best I can see, she's been wrong-headed and unwise, and both of those adjectives may be understatements. This is a newly-surfacing major case in point, and may not go away anytime soon. I fear it will end in tears. I don't like to see that. I tell you.

I've been there, seeing Kerry's tears. They broke my heart, twice, on two separate occasions. She's not [just] the defiant iron warrior she presents herself as. She's very vulnerable.

:flower:

The bottom line is that Kerry's judgment is very, very flawed, on a number of issues, and has been for quite a while.

mountain_jim
6th November 2018, 13:22
Many thanks Bill for such a worthwhile Q&A opportunity within Avalon.

My question:

We have many threads, including this one, where pre-incarnation planning and trying to recognize such are discussed.

We also have many discussions about malevolent actors/methods interfering with the human soul death-reincarnation process.

How do you view Dr. Michael Newton's Journey of Souls books containing regression-gained content but without any (as I recall) trace of this malevolent interference - rather just a group of helpful entities supporting the rebirth planning process?

I have not yet been able to reconcile this for myself.

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 15:16
How do you view Dr. Michael Newton's Journey of Souls books containing regression-gained content but without any (as I recall) trace of this malevolent interference - rather just a group of helpful entities supporting the rebirth planning process?

I have not yet been able to reconcile this for myself.

It's in the Avalon Library, here (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michael%20Newton%20-%20Journey%20of%20Souls%20-%20Case%20Studies%20of%20Life%20Between%20Lives.pdf) — but I'm afraid I've not yet read it.

petra
6th November 2018, 19:51
Really enjoying this thread so far Bill! Some of the questions are blowing my mind, let alone the answers. Like this question. Holy cow...

What if YOU were the experimenter, would YOU have a purpose? I've given it a bit of thought, and I imagine if I was experimenting on humans, I'd like the end result to be for everyone to have "common sense". Don't go into the light!! It's common sense!! (just a little light hearted humor here!)



What is the ultimate purpose of the human experiment?


I really don't know.

There are two kinds of scientific experiment (basically).


To attempt to achieve a desired result (e.g. making a new alloy or chemical compound with certain specific properties).
Just to see what happens if you do X, Y, or Z.

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 20:32
What is the ultimate purpose of the human experiment?

I really don't know.

There are two kinds of scientific experiment (basically).


To attempt to achieve a desired result (e.g. making a new alloy or chemical compound with certain specific properties).
Just to see what happens if you do X, Y, or Z.

Really enjoying this thread so far Bill! Some of the questions are blowing my mind, let alone the answers. Like this question. Holy cow...

What if YOU were the experimenter, would YOU have a purpose?

Well, here's something that's always intrigued me. We almost never hear or read anyone referring to this.

Look what humans do.


Extreme sports.
Stand-up comedy.
Ballet.
Punk rock. Hip-hop.
Create great works of literature.
Play cricket. And soccer, American football, hockey, basketball and tennis. And 100 other strange sports. (And yes, they're all strange!)
Meditate for months in a cave.
Magic shows at children's parties.
Dress up as clowns in a circus.
Produce great works of art and classical music.
Sacrifice themselves for a cause, or for someone they love.
Kill animals. Save animals.
Kill each other. Save each other.
... about 1000 other interesting, quirky, and maybe unique things.

Can you imagine a Gray alien, or a Reptilian (or even a saintly Nordic!) doing stand-up comedy?

Maybe the experiment was to create a blend of every trait that had ever manifested in any galactic species, all in one race. And just see if it could be done.

JohanB
6th November 2018, 21:57
Hi Bill I enjoy your answers and "wisdom".

Two thought for you to ponder about...a bit philosofic i suppose.

I believe we all have flaws as a person. Mostly we know them well. Do you care to share your "flaws" with us, if any :o

Secondly the "fear" phenomena. What is your take on it and why is it so "easy" to manipulate people using "fear" in your opinion?

DNA
6th November 2018, 22:17
Can you imagine a Gray alien, or a Reptilian (or even a saintly Nordic!) doing stand-up comedy?


This was funny. :)
The one question I wanted to ask was your opinion on Billy Meier.

I know you and Kerry gave him a visit and were not able to interview him probably due to the weird cult that surrounds him now.




http://projectcamelot.org/kerry_silver_star.jpg


But regardless of the weird cult that now surrounds the elderly man, I think there is still validity there, I was curious of your take. :)

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 22:22
I believe we all have flaws as a person. Mostly we know them well. Do you care to share your "flaws" with us, if any :o

Secondly the "fear" phenomena. What is your take on it and why is it so "easy" to manipulate people using "fear" in your opinion?

The 'flaw' that's created the greatest problems (and disappointments) for me is that I've always tended to trust too much.

The 'fear' question is interesting. I had to think about that for a moment.

It's an archetype, for good reason. It's hardwired into the human morphic field. For the last 200,000 years (or however long a period one chooses!) there's been more than plenty to be afraid of, sometimes all night and most of every day. As has been often stated (and I think it was probably pretty true), life as a neolithic hunter-gatherer was nasty, brutish and short.

Tough times extended right up the modern era. Disease, famine, persecution, death giving childbirth, infant mortality, maybe slavery, or its close equivalent: all these were commonplace.

And now, those more primitive (but well-founded) fears have morphed into different areas. Fear of failure, fear of social or sexual rejection, fear of losing money, fear of not having enough friends on Facebook. :) And a whole ton of neuroses and anxieties that may never have existed before.

This image might raise a smile, but there may also be truth there.

http://projectavalon.net/Anxiety_Magazine.jpg

Bill Ryan
6th November 2018, 22:36
Can you imagine a Gray alien, or a Reptilian (or even a saintly Nordic!) doing stand-up comedy?

This was funny. :)
The one question I wanted to ask was your opinion on Billy Meier.

I know you and Kerry gave him a visit and were not able to interview him probably due to the weird cult that surrounds him now.

But regardless of the weird cult that now surrounds the elderly man, I think there is still validity there, I was curious of your take. :)


As I summarized in my post #144 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256717&viewfull=1#post1256717):



I believe he started off (back in the pre-digital 1970s) as the real deal: a genuine experiencer and contactee.

But then he started to exaggerate and wildly invent more claims, and grossly fake his photos. The latter unfortunately discredits the former... everyone loses.

Interestingly — after I wrote that, a few days ago — Linda Howe in her recent interview with Ray Boeche and Nick Redfern, shares at 1:27:19 — 1:29:57 how she was told by Jacques Vallee that he was convinced Billy Meier's experiences were real, as were the Japanese TV crew who visited him at that time. That was back in 1979 and the early 80s.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGuwb95mgtI

WhiteFeather
7th November 2018, 19:25
Can you imagine a Gray alien, or a Reptilian (or even a saintly Nordic!) doing stand-up comedy?

This was funny. :)
The one question I wanted to ask was your opinion on Billy Meier.

I know you and Kerry gave him a visit and were not able to interview him probably due to the weird cult that surrounds him now.

But regardless of the weird cult that now surrounds the elderly man, I think there is still validity there, I was curious of your take. :)


As I summarized in my post #144 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256717&viewfull=1#post1256717):



I believe he started off (back in the pre-digital 1970s) as the real deal: a genuine experiencer and contactee.

But then he started to exaggerate and wildly invent more claims, and grossly fake his photos. The latter unfortunately discredits the former... everyone loses.

Interestingly — after I wrote that, a few days ago — Linda Howe in her recent interview with Ray Boeche and Nick Redfern, shares at 1:27:19 — 1:29:57 how she was told by Jacques Vallee that he was convinced Billy Meier's experiences were real, as were the Japanese TV crew who visited him at that time. That was back in 1979 and the early 80s.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGuwb95mgtI

If i may, I truly believed Billy Meier's story as well. Not sure why after all the mumbo jumbo. Its just my gut instinct. Even with all the disinfo goings on. I always hold true to my gut instincts.

avid
7th November 2018, 19:27
Have you ascended the Old Man of Hoy, the Cuillins, and what Lake District Peaks...? Wales - Snowdon, Ben Nevis, et al. After watching a fell-runner doing over 200 fells in just over 6 days, I wonder why...? He said the views were fantastic...

Just watched a C5 documentary about traversing the closed railway tracks from Preston to Cockermouth. So sad. Storm Desmond washed away an iconic bridge at Threlkeld in 2015, but reinstatement funding almost there for pathway. We want our rail links back. Now developers want to block our right of way from Cockermouth cemetery to Slatefell. Demo was today in pouring rain. Local planning ignores thousands of protests on this flood plain, so disappointing...

Bill Ryan
7th November 2018, 20:25
Have you ascended the Old Man of Hoy, the Cuillins, and what Lake District Peaks...? Wales - Snowdon, Ben Nevis, et al. After watching a fell-runner doing over 200 fells in just over 6 days, I wonder why...? He said the views were fantastic...


Well, I'm delighted to have a softball question like this! :P

Never the Old Man of Hoy, but I did climb the Old Man of Stoer. Getting to the start of the climb involves someone actually swimming over to it to establish an anchor for an improvised rope bridge. I generously allowed my climbing partner Paul to do it. :)

http://projectavalon.net/The_Old_Man_of_Stoer.jpg

I've been on the Cuillins many times (on the Isle of Skye). The Cuillin Ridge itself is a long, sometimes arduous adventure. I tried that 4 times over 18 years (once in winter, where we got about 200 yards before giving up) and eventually succeeded on the final attempt. It took two days.

https://www.westcoast-mountainguides.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/web-Sgurr-Mhic-Choinnich-and-Sgurr-Alasdair-Cuillin-Ridge-Skye-845x684.jpg

There's no water up there, so to avoid having to climb down hundreds of feet to find some, I took a giant watermelon with me (which probably has to be a first). It was heavy, too! Paul — the same friend as above, who I shared many expeditions with — thought I was quite nuts, but boy was he happy to tuck into it with me when we reached our little half way bivouac camp. :)

I've been on all the English Lake District peaks (where I used to live for several years), and also many in Scotland. Ben Nevis, yes, many times. This, the prominent pyramidal thing on the left, is a photo of the North-East Buttress of Ben Nevis. (It really does look like this on a blue-sky winter day.)

http://projectavalon.net/Ben_Nevis_Northeast_Buttress.jpg

But when Paul and I went to climb it, the weather was foul and misty and cold. Here's Paul, doing his heroic thing:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_and_Paul_on_Ben_Nevis_2.jpg

There's a funny story attached to our climb that day. At the very top of that pyramid above, there's a feature known as the Mantrap. It's a blank, steep, icy 10 foot rock wall, and it has a fearsome reputation. Strong teams have been known to have been defeated by it, being forced to make the long and difficult descent right back down to the valley floor again. There's no way round it except up or down.

Paul and I were so freaked out by the stories we'd read and heard about this thing, that we were in a totally hyped up state for the entire climb. To our astonishment, in all the snowy gloom, after climbing for hours, we suddenly found ourselves at the summit. We were so intensely focused, we'd climbed right past the Mantrap without even knowing about it. Here's our summit selfie, looking pretty relieved.

* Trivia: this photo was taken 15 years ago (that's me down on the left), and I still have that same yellow Goretex storm jacket. I take it with me on every mountain trip, including tomorrow when Mara and I will be heading to the mountains for a day with Warren Light (Avalon member wnlight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?22770-wnlight)), and his own dog, Pepe the Giant Poodle. Photos to come.

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_and_Paul_on_Ben_Nevis.jpg

Thanks again for the fun question. It's quite a lot easier than talking about ETs, Kerry Cassidy, or the fate of Planet Earth. :Party:

angelfire
7th November 2018, 22:49
You mentioned in an earlier reply that you are a Trump supporter. I was too and still retain a modicum of hope that he will drain that swamp.
However, I find it difficult to understand or in any way sympathise with his apparent support for Israel to the complete detriment of the Palestinian people. What are your views on this policy?

Secondly, how big a threat do you consider the rolling out of 5G to be?

Many thanks.

Bill Ryan
7th November 2018, 22:56
You mentioned in an earlier reply that you are a Trump supporter. I was too and still retain a modicum of hope that he will drain that swamp.
However, I find it difficult to understand or in any way sympathise with his apparent support for Israel to the complete detriment of the Palestinian people. What are your views on this policy?

Secondly, how big a threat do you consider the rolling out of 5G to be?

Re Trump and Israel/Palestine, me too.

5G is a massive threat.

Spellbound
8th November 2018, 00:05
WOW, Bill!! Great pics. You've certainly seen a lot of this planet. That's awesome!!

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound
8th November 2018, 00:29
Hi Bill, what are your thoughts on a Loch Ness monster type creature that is rumored to be in various bodies of water around the world (LN, Lake Champlain, Lake Okanagan, etc). Is it BS or could it be some sort of dinosaur type amphibian creature that never died out??

When I was a kid, the big 3 were aliens, Bigfoot, and Loch Ness monster.

39465

Dave - Toronto

Mike Gorman
8th November 2018, 00:53
If you could make just one book mandatory reading for everyone, what would it be?

I'm going to cheat, and quote two. :)


Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (http://projectavalon.net/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance_Robert_Pirsig.pdf), by Robert Pirsig.
The Holographic Universe (http://projectavalon.net/The_Holographic_Universe_Michael_Talbot.pdf), by Michael Talbot.

If pressed for just one, it would be the first.

Snap, I knew there was a reason I was attracted to this project of yours Bill, that also is one of my very favorite books, and An Inquiry into Values and Lila also is magnificent-the concept of 'Quality' is one that our current age is wrestling with.
Are you planning to do anything with Richard Dolan, appear on one of his live streams for example-I think that would be a terrific way to promote your work, and promote the truth cause?

Sorry Bill, of course you appeared only last year with Richard on his podcast, to discuss recent developments, and the probity of the SSP narratives. I guess I am saying yourself and Richard are terrific people, I stand behind you guys, for what that is worth.

Bill Ryan
8th November 2018, 10:05
Hi Bill, what are your thoughts on a Loch Ness monster type creature that is rumored to be in various bodies of water around the world (LN, Lake Champlain, Lake Okanagan, etc). Is it BS or could it be some sort of dinosaur type amphibian creature that never died out??

When I was a kid, the big 3 were aliens, Bigfoot, and Loch Ness monster.


I've always felt there's compelling evidence for lake (and sea) monsters — whatever they are! — which have been reported not only from Scotland (Loch Ness, and also Loch Morar), but North America, Africa (the Mokele-mbembe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe) in Congo) and also Russia. There are MANY reports from credible witnesses, over many decades, that are bewilderingly hard to explain.

The best books I ever read on the subject, all well-researched and well-written classics, were by the veteran Belgian biologist Bernard Heuvelmans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Heuvelmans) (1916—2001).


On the Track of Unknown Animals (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262580209/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i4)
In the Wake of the Sea-Serpents (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006BREDY/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i3)
Natural History of Hidden Animals (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1138976784/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i2)
Kraken & The Colossal Octopus (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/113899295X/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i1)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Bernard_Heuvelmans.jpg

His books on Amazon are very expensive now, and I can NOT find any PDFs for the Avalon Library. (If anyone has them, please let me know!)

And, an interesting omission: as best I'm aware, despite all the threads about Bigfoot/Sasquatch (and the Wawa Grande in Ecuador!), there's little or nothing on the forum about lake and sea 'monsters'. I'd definitely be happy to contribute to such a thread, as it's one of many subjects of this nature I do feel I know quite a lot about.

britman
8th November 2018, 10:17
Regarding the Knights of the Round Table.
There was an an organisation founded by Dr. Felkin in New Zealand. The story was how he was on a sea voyage to the US and encountered a man who gave him the information of the brotherhood of which he was the last survivor and so became committed to reforming it, which he did in Havelock North new Zealand.

Whilst I was in a medical practice nearby I became a member. Already familiar with metaphysics in The Aetherius Society I had no difficulty in being accepted.
The name adopted was The Chivalric Society but it was a cover for the "The Table Round"based on the rituals of the Golden Dawn with the theme of "The Knights of The Round Table".
As time went on the members aged and scattered after the temple hall was destroyed in a fire together with all records and equipment.

I had left New Zealand at the time and learnt of it from a visitor two years later. This was in 1970.

There is an account and a picture of the leading magician Jack Taylor on the internet.

WhiteFeather
8th November 2018, 13:55
Two more....Thanks again for answering and taking your time in giving your thoughts on some really great questions. :handshake:

1.Who do you think actually constructed the pyramids in Egypt?
2. The validity and or credibility of Simon Parkes in your opinion/words. Was he an actual experiencer, and does his character exemplify the truth? If you can briefly, thanks.

petra
8th November 2018, 19:33
Can you imagine a Gray alien, or a Reptilian (or even a saintly Nordic!) doing stand-up comedy?

Maybe the experiment was to create a blend of every trait that had ever manifested in any galactic species, all in one race. And just see if it could be done.


That's an interesting way of looking at it - I never thought of that before. If we could choose a type of experiment to be, let's choose "successful experiment" :)

I can't imagine aliens, not even close!! Tell you who I can imagine doing a stand-up comedy act though, that big blue Jinni from Aladdin.

That "Aladdin" movie really got to me, man! I know ALL the words... :P

JohanB
8th November 2018, 19:55
Hi Bill

Seems to me you have travelled the world....hence my easy questions :sherlock:

1) Which countries and its customs / people did you find "odd" if any?
2) Which countries would you still like to experience?

And lastly for now.

3) DO you have a "Bucket list" as per the 2007 movie? If you do, would you like to share it with us, please?

muxfolder
9th November 2018, 01:41
I have another fun question for you Bill. :happythumbsup: It seems you like those 60's rock bands just like I do. What do you think about Dave McGowan's research about 60's counter culture and everything that happened in Laurel Canyon and around it? Do you think that it really was an CIA-operation (or some 3-letter agency) and that everything that's now happening in music business is exactly what was on their plan.

Personally, I'm really starting to believe that Dave was really on to something. Big time.

Strat
9th November 2018, 02:23
What's your take on Alistair Crowley and his writings?

Trisher
9th November 2018, 10:23
Thanks Bill for opening yourself to questions and for the very sincere answers you have given. I have a couple of questions. You once refused a flat earther admittance to the forum despite the fact you thought this person had genuine qualities. Why? The second question is how do you gauge the character of people asking for membership from what they write when applying?
Trisher

petra
9th November 2018, 15:58
...
How would you consider a spiritual being without body could administer personal regression?
And as spiritual being would there be any need for regression because a being would shed off all accumulated karma (or charge)?

How a spiritual being WITHOUT a body can do this kind of thing is a great question. They can, 100% for sure, but they wouldn't have a biofeedback meter (which is what these devices are) to help guide them. (And it's definitely a significant help.)


There's got to be a connection. Feels like that statement might have multiple meanings ...

I feel as if I got regressed by something inside my head. The impression I got was that the spiritual thing (without a body) was actually inside of my body (bleccch!!). It's just a guess because that's how I felt - I know it's gross.



And that's another great question whether a spiritual being without a body would have the same kind of amnesia as humans have — which I think is what you're asking. My best answer is that I think the amnesia that affects us is a by-product of the body (or, maybe, the human body). I do believe that a discarnate spiritual being would NOT have amnesia. But I don't know for certain.

I'm so happy people are questioning this kind of thing! Makes sense to me. I remember thinking "I could think a lot better if I didn't have a brain" and that just made me laugh, because stupid as it sounds, I feel like that's true.


I am stunned that you are opening yourself up to questions in this manner.
Wow

I am too. I feel sorry for Bill (lol) but then I remember he asked for it!

I imagine Bill standing there with a big target on his shirt, and the words on his shirt say "Here I am, come and get me!"

Elpis
9th November 2018, 16:02
It seems lately I’ve gotten several new followers on Twitter that are from Turkey. Thoughts?

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 20:07
Mr.Ryan threat level wise, do you see this cult remaining a threat (physical or otherwise) ?



The question, from this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1258896#post1258896), referred to Corey Goode, Jordan Sather, et al, pertaining to the recent 'doxxing' (illegal publishing of private personal information), and more.

The answer is Yes. They're vicious, 100% self-serving, and dangerous.

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 20:28
Two more....Thanks again for answering and taking your time in giving your thoughts on some really great questions. :handshake:
1. Who do you think actually constructed the pyramids in Egypt?




I think the surviving remnants of the Atlanteans (whose great civilization was destroyed in the great North-American-then-global Younger-Dryas cataclysm described in detail by Graham Hancock, and now being confirmed by mainstream science). They relocated to the Middle East and Mesopotamia, with the knowledge and technology they still possessed but which has now been lost. Nothing to do with ETs.

Of course, it's definitely possible the pyramids might have been built by that global civilization before the cataclysm. My feeling is the former (my paragraph above), but of course that's only just a feeling, and may be quite wrong.

It also has to be possible that the real history will eventually come to public light, some of which may already be known (and concealed) by Dr Zahi Hawass and the Egyptian authorities, for reasons of their own.

2. The validity and or credibility of Simon Parkes in your opinion/words. Was he an actual experiencer, and does his character exemplify the truth? If you can briefly, thanks.




I'd suggest that anyone with any questions about Simon Parkes should read this thread. I support every word that's been written there. At first, I and the other moderators maintained a neutral ground, as the allegations were just that: allegations, which might have been unsubstantiated smears.


Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88999-Our-experience-with-Simon-Parkes-as-a-counselor)

But when detailed testimony started to be reported, the situation became very clear. He's a sexual predator on some of his female clients, is no therapist or counselor worthy of the name, and in my opinion nothing he says or claims can be 100% trusted any more.

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 20:49
Hi Bill
Seems to me you have travelled the world....hence my easy questions :sherlock:

1) Which countries and its customs / people did you find "odd" if any?




Well, I've not really 'traveled the world'. But I did once do a tally, and I have actually visited over 40 countries at one point or another — but some of them only briefly.

I don't think any countries or people are particularly odd! (But from an alien perspective, we might ALL be very odd. :) )

2) Which countries would you still like to experience?




I've visited Russia a couple of times, and found it a wonderful country with wonderful people. I'd definitely like to spend more time there.

I've never been to Bhutan. That's the last unspoiled mountain kingdom. It's a kind of real-world, real-time Shangri-La, in many ways. It's hard to get to, and VERY expensive to travel in — because of the very heavy taxes levied on tourists. (Legitimately so, too.)

If I had a time machine, I'd like to return to Tibet before the Chinese invasion, occupation, and destruction. There are still parts of Western Tibet, though, that are among the hardest places to travel to on Planet Earth, and which very few westerners have ever seen.

That was the location of the real 'Shambhala', an actual place called Shang-Shung, but now heavily mythologized, that I lived in myself for four lifetimes between AD 820-975. I have clear memories. See my post #51 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62272-Describe-Utopia.-YOUR-own-vision-your-own-version-of-utopia&p=715916&viewfull=1#post715916) on this thread:


Describe "Utopia." YOUR own vision, your own version of utopia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62272-Describe-Utopia.-YOUR-own-vision-your-own-version-of-utopia)


3) Do you have a "Bucket list" as per the 2007 movie? If you do, would you like to share it with us, please?




Wow, what an interesting question.
Not really, or else I'd find it easy to answer without thinking much. :)

My best answer is that there are a bunch of friends, scattered across the world, that either I've never actually met in person, or haven't seen for very many years. Meeting them, or meeting them again, would be all I'd ever want to do that I've not done.

:flower:

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 21:01
I have another fun question for you Bill. :happythumbsup: It seems you like those 60's rock bands just like I do. What do you think about Dave McGowan's research about 60's counter culture and everything that happened in Laurel Canyon and around it? Do you think that it really was an CIA-operation (or some 3-letter agency) and that everything that's now happening in music business is exactly what was on their plan.

Personally, I'm really starting to believe that Dave was really on to something. Big time.

Dave McGowan's excellent research on the history of all the musicians in Laurel Canyon is here: the first is the compilation from his website articles, and the second is the book itself. They're not 100% identical, but of course are very similar.


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dave%20McGowan%20-%20Weird%20Scenes%20Inside%20the%20Canyon.pdf
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/David%20McGowan%2C%20Nick%20Bryant%20-%20Weird%20Scenes%20Inside%20the%20Canyon%20-%20Laurel%20Canyon%2C%20Covert%20Ops%20%26%20the%2 0Dark%20Heart%20of%20the%20Hippie%20Dream.pdf

It's fascinating stuff to read. My only comment is that if one steps back and looks carefully, there are MANY bands and musicians that are never mentioned in his work and don't seem to be implicated. But some of them do seem to have been planted, and/or manipulated, yes.

Regarding what's NOW happening in the music business, see this video. 'Nuff said. (And DO please watch this. It's a strong video of quite some brilliance.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLUIXWnrC0

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 21:04
What's your take on Alistair Crowley and his writings?

I've never actually read any of his works. I suspect he was one of very many, but he just became a 'celebrity', so to speak.

Black Magic is definitely a reality. The alluring self-serving temptations for some people are considerable and apparently irresistible.

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 21:17
Thanks Bill for opening yourself to questions and for the very sincere answers you have given. I have a couple of questions. You once refused a flat earther admittance to the forum despite the fact you thought this person had genuine qualities. Why? The second question is how do you gauge the character of people asking for membership from what they write when applying?
Trisher

The question about the 'Flat Earther' applicant who was sincere, clearly a very nice person, but who we eventually declined, is interesting. If I remember right we invited him to communicate more, but I don't believe he ever replied.

We've not changed the membership application form since you applied, as did most members reading this. (The application process was introduced in late 2010, so there [I]are a few longstanding members who were 'imported' from the old forum, and who never 'applied'.)

We've NOT changed it at all simply because it seems to work pretty well. It just paints a picture of someone's personality and values. The criterion the mods often use (and this is not a joke) is to ask ourselves the question: "Would we want to sit down and share a pot of coffee with this person?"

I don't make the decisions myself. That never happens. We all vote, equally. When a potential new member applies, a new thread is auto-generated by the software in the moderators' section, complete with a poll. The poll has three options:


Yes.
No.
'Too Thin' (meaning, there's just not enough here for us to make a good decision, in which case the applicant is invited to kindly re-apply with a little more information.)

The mods often have a unanimous vote, but definitely not always. Sometimes it's really quite split. The call is usually made by Debra, but sometimes by Paul or Billy. Very rarely by anyone else (this is just traditional in the team) — and never by myself.

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 21:21
It seems lately I’ve gotten several new followers on Twitter that are from Turkey. Thoughts?

None at all! I'm not qualified to comment. I'm not on Twitter, and have no intention of diving in into that particular social media mincing machine. :)

muxfolder
9th November 2018, 21:51
I have another fun question for you Bill. :happythumbsup: It seems you like those 60's rock bands just like I do. What do you think about Dave McGowan's research about 60's counter culture and everything that happened in Laurel Canyon and around it? Do you think that it really was an CIA-operation (or some 3-letter agency) and that everything that's now happening in music business is exactly what was on their plan.

Personally, I'm really starting to believe that Dave was really on to something. Big time.

Dave McGowan's excellent research on the history of all the musicians in Laurel Canyon is here: the first is the compilation from his website articles, and the second is the book itself. They're not 100% identical, but of course are very similar.


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dave%20McGowan%20-%20Weird%20Scenes%20Inside%20the%20Canyon.pdf
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/David%20McGowan%2C%20Nick%20Bryant%20-%20Weird%20Scenes%20Inside%20the%20Canyon%20-%20Laurel%20Canyon%2C%20Covert%20Ops%20%26%20the%2 0Dark%20Heart%20of%20the%20Hippie%20Dream.pdf

It's fascinating stuff to read. My only comment is that if one steps back and looks carefully, there are MANY bands and musicians that are never mentioned in his work and don't seem to be implicated. But some of them do seem to have been planted, and/or manipulated, yes.

Regarding what's NOW happening in the music business, see this video. 'Nuff said. (And DO please watch this. It's a strong video of quite some brilliance.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLUIXWnrC0

That video you posted above was exactly why I decided to ask you about this. And I must say I agree 100% with Paul Joseph Watson. Well, I've been actually agreeing with his thoughts last 20 years to be exact. But myself being musician, it's bit harder. Especially now.

samildamach
10th November 2018, 21:55
Which Avalon member would you like to start a thread and on what subject?

Bill Ryan
11th November 2018, 14:47
Which Avalon member would you like to start a thread and on what subject?

That's a really great question (a creative one!) — and a very hard one to answer. I've given this question more thought than any other so far. :)

I know that many Avalon members (including some who have very recently joined) have very, very interesting personal stories to tell. But those stories are so sensitive that I can't possibly name them. It has to be their private choice whether to ever share them, even in a members only section. We do have a whole community of very extraordinary people here.

Words of Joy
11th November 2018, 15:36
Hi Bill, I read on a different thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali), you replied here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali&p=1259129&viewfull=1#post1259129) "Svali is one of the most important (and utterly real) Illuminati whistleblowers."

Svali in the end of the OP is saying "I ask that all Christians join in prayer that this type of occultic activity would be stopped."

-Do you also think her perspective on Christians praying could help to stop the activities is a realistic one?
-If yes, how so?
-If no, why not?
-Why do you think she is specifically asking Christians to join in prayer and not just everyone from all different religions?

Bill Ryan
11th November 2018, 15:57
Hi Bill, I read on a different thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali), you replied here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali&p=1259129&viewfull=1#post1259129) "Svali is one of the most important (and utterly real) Illuminati whistleblowers."

Svali in the end of the OP is saying "I ask that all Christians join in prayer that this type of occultic activity would be stopped."

-Do you also think her perspective on Christians praying could help to stop the activities is a realistic one?
-If yes, how so?
-If no, why not?
-Why do you think she is specifically asking Christians to join in prayer and not just everyone from all different religions?

Yes, I think prayer can sometimes work. But very largely, I'd contend that's what WE do ourselves (knowingly or unknowingly) — as distinct from an omnipotent parent-figure magically making everything all right for us.

I believe that's a slightly unhealthy (and self-disempowering) fantasy. No disrespect is meant to anyone reading this who may have a strong Christian faith. Truly. But sometimes, it really is like a child calling out for a parent to deal with all the troubles and problems that the child can't handle. They just have to ask very, very nicely, and then start hoping. There's very little personal power (or responsibility) in that.

My view is that the reason prayer can work is that (a) we can sometimes tap into our own magical power as co-creators (which is potentially significant: each one of us can be a miracle-worker, but that ability is usually VERY hard to access), and (b) just occasionally, there are helpful discarnate spirits that can and are willing to assist.

The potential efficacy can't be confined to Christians. That seems self-evident. One can't have a formalized religion that claims to represent all humankind yet is also in a way elitist, discounting or dismissing all other faiths, cultures, beliefs and traditions. Jesus himself would never have done that.

:flower:

Ivy23
12th November 2018, 02:30
Bill, I have been thoroughly enjoying this thread. Who have/has been the most influential people/person in your life? My apologies if this has already been asked and answered, I’ve tried to stay updated but I might have missed it! There’s been some excellent topics here. Thanks 😊

Justplain
12th November 2018, 04:58
Bill, what are your thoughts on Truman Cash's research? His and his interviewees recount multiple lifetimes being interfered with by all the main ET groups, the 'pleiadians', the greys, the reptilians and the mantids.

Do you have any past, or between, life recollections of ETs interfering with your incarnation process?

Iancorgi
12th November 2018, 10:08
What's your take on Alistair Crowley and his writings?

I've never actually read any of his works. I suspect he was one of very many, but he just became a 'celebrity', so to speak.

Black Magic is definitely a reality. The alluring self-serving temptations for some people are considerable and apparently irresistible.

May I recommend "Moonchild". I believe this is A.Crowley only novel and it's a masterpiece. He used is own personal experience and practical knowledge of magic and sorcery to put together a most fascinating story. Most of the main characters were inspired by real life magicians he was dealing with at the time. He somehow infused his work with his presence and it's really haunting.

Bill Ryan
12th November 2018, 12:00
Bill, I have been thoroughly enjoying this thread. Who have/has been the most influential people/person in your life? My apologies if this has already been asked and answered, I’ve tried to stay updated but I might have missed it! There’s been some excellent topics here. Thanks 😊

That's a really wonderful question. (Another one! :) )

One or two questions a bit like this I've thought about for a long time. But this one was easier. I reframed the question to be: "Who have I met in my life that I'd most like to meet again next lifetime, because I learned so much from them?"

Excluding known and valued enormously-loved old friends, there are two people who had a very significant effect on me and my life. Both were most remarkable people with astonishing abilities, totally dedicated to helping others, and never once seeking any publicity. Neither of them have a website, or any social media platform. Neither of them have any ego of any kind.

If one's a genuinely great being, one doesn't have to have all that stuff. Very great beings often work very quietly and silently. And there are quite a few of them.

I've met some of them, as well. One of them was a a true polymath: a healer, a medical technician, an engineer, built three houses single-handed, an artist, an author, and a spiritual miracle-worker. He was the first person I ever met who was able to 'wiggle his nose' — a reference to Samantha in the lovely old TV series Bewitched :) — and create effects on the other side of the world the next day that he and I would then hear about on the news. He even ended a war once, and I was right there when it happened. That's totally true, but I'd definitely not expect anyone to believe it.

He and I worked closely together in the early 1990s, in England, and one of the things I'm most proud of in my whole life was that I played a part myself in him rediscovering and re-activating his personal power as what many would describe as a kind of Gandalf-level master wizard. He never saw himself that way, but that was what he was. We worked as a strong team for a couple years, my own role being kind of like the guy in the corner of the ring who holds the towel. :) (He's not in the fight himself, but plays a valuable support role between the bruising rounds.)

The other was a personal regression therapist and counselor I had for many years, a woman in Switzerland who was also just the most remarkable, beautiful person. She was also a close personal friend, but we were never romantically involved. The day I told her, back in 2011, that I was leaving to go to the US, she had tears in her eyes. She valued me, too.

But professionally, she would sometimes give me the most wonderful session, deploying all her skill and attention. After two or three hours, when the session was over, and we were briefly chatting, I'd remark that she looked just maybe a little tired. Then she'd say that she'd not slept a wink all night because she had a raging toothache, and still had, and she had to go to the dentist later for an emergency appointment. She never betrayed an iota of that when she was focused on assisting me. She just ignored all her own pain and discomfort, and banished it completely.

I think I can tell this story. There was only ONE time, in many years, when she ever lapsed into having any attention on herself, in any way. It was when I arrived at her house one morning for a session, and I noticed a tear in her eye. I asked her what on earth had happened. She told me that she'd just discovered that her cat had been chopped into a thousand pieces by a farm mowing machine in the long grass in the field at the back of her house. Literally. OMG. I can barely imagine.

She told me that she'd been in telepathic contact with her cat, to relieve and release the trauma of the incident, and who was fine (of course) — but her cat was bewildered. It kept asking: "But I don't understand: why do humans have to cut the grass?"

Amid my friend's shocking loss, we were able to laugh at that together. I was able to help her counsel her cat to reincarnate at a nearby farm, and then the two of them could be reunited. And after about 20 minutes, we sat down and she gave me another wonderful, 100% focused session. Very, very humans would have been able to do that.

She's also the person who I described in my post #121 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256609&viewfull=1#post1256609) had been someone's Guardian Angel in between lives. These real angels do exist, in human form.

kudzy
12th November 2018, 17:49
Hi Bill, I have the upmost respect and appreciation for you and your work as I do for Wade Frazier and his work. I firmly believe that free energy technology is the game changer that could propel humanity into a golden age. The question is whether or not we can mass enough people with sufficient heart centered sentience and integrity to change our current trajectory. Could you please share your thoughts on free energy technology, it’s potential and the work of Wade Frazier?

BTW, many thanks to you and all the mods for providing a safe platform where Wade can share his life’s work unmolested.

Also, why did you name your dog Mara? In the Pali language of the Buddha’s time Mara means; death, negative force, evil one. But she seems like such a good dog.
:happy dog:
Thank you!

avid
12th November 2018, 18:00
Interceding - Marra means a great friend in Cumbria, hopefully Mara is not a wee devil in the meanings of google-madness, but a wondrous positive wee friend.

Honesty
12th November 2018, 22:34
When do you believe [based on your research and experiences (and those of trusted colleagues)] that the Middle East will “run out of peace”?

Spellbound
13th November 2018, 01:39
Bill, in your opinion, who is really running things here on Earth?? Is it the reptilians who hand down the orders to the illuminatti (or do you think the highest members of the illuminatti are in fact reptilian??). Perhaps there is no ET / Reptilian influence and it is all human?? Who (or what) is at the top??

Dave - Toronto

Strat
13th November 2018, 03:28
If you were stuck on a desert island but were able to watch 1 movie (as many times as you like) what would it be?

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 16:13
Folks, my apologies for the delay in answering further questions recently posted. I've been away from my desk for a couple of days.

This interesting question was sent in by e-mail from a guest:

~~~



I was just introduced to William Tompkins after watching Kerry Cassidy interview him. He says that there is a Secret Space Program that has its roots going back many years to when he was part of the US Navy...a time when the Navy contracted with Northrop, TRW, and Lockheed Skunkworks... all of whom were working with a group of Nordic ETs to develop an anti-gravity vehicle capable of deep space and interstellar travel. He claims this led to the establishment of a secret Navy base on the dark side of the moon (where there were already existing Reptilian/Draco bases). And lastly, he goes on to say that Bill & Hillary Clinton, Obama, and GW Bush are all shape-shifted Reptilians... and that Trump is not a Reptilian.

In your opinion, Bill, is this nothing more than the delusional ramblings of a senile old man, a charlatan, a fake, all of the above... or is there some level of truth to any of this man's extreme claims?
~~~

My reply:



There is a Secret Space Program, 100% for sure. Precisely how extensive it is, we can't be certain, but there are very, very probably already bases on the Moon and Mars. A friend I know recently talked to the Deputy Director of NASA, off-record, and was told that the 'Secret Space Program' was all military, and NASA had to put up and make do with 'hand-me-downs' that might be as much as 30 years old.

But Tompkins was exaggerating and embellishing, I feel certain of that. He knew some things, but his book (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/William%20Mills%20Tompkins%20-%20Selected%20By%20Extraterrestrials%20-%20My%20Life%20in%20the%20Top%20Secret%20World%20of%20UFOs%2C%20Think-tanks%20and%20Nordic%20Secretaries.pdf) (I read 100 pages of it, and could go no further) was dreadful. It was an embarrassment.

He was a draftsman: very gifted at making engineering drawings. And he did work at Douglas when he said he did, we know that. But he was NOT an engineer, and wouldn't have been a senior part of the design teams for anything: he didn't have the education or qualifications to do all the math that would be needed.

And the timescale he asserts is too early. No way could we have made aircraft-carrier size spaceships in the early 1950s, years before Sputnik. They would be so heavy they'd have to have been assembled in orbit, and that massive multi-launch infrastructure just didn't exist back then. (Now, or at any time after the 1980s, yes, for sure. Antigravity technology is now very well-understood and has been operational for decades. But NOT back in the early '50s.)

Some reported reptilian shape-shifting I firmly believe is very real. I do also believe that these beings have infiltrated some of our senior influential positions, in many areas, maybe not just in politics. This ties into the real, complex, and inter-dimensional nature of our reality, that we barely understand yet — if we understand it at all.

This may be the main reason full 'disclosure' is still a VERY long way off. Any revelation of what's actually going on would have to encompass these highly-strange but important areas, and the truth would be just too unacceptable and shocking — even to very well-aware and well-informed people.

Denise/Dizi
14th November 2018, 16:51
Thank You for opening yourself up to questions. I only want to ask one.. Have you reached out to Kerry to give her advice on how to avoid being shredded in the eyes of public opinion? (Mostly in the way she handled the Mark Richards testimony)..

I DID write to her, giving her a perspective from this side of the fence, and I told her, all she need do is stick to the facts, that he CLAIMS he was in this program, and that HE CLAIMS that he was set up ... Those ARE his CLAIMS... And she could have avoided all of the scrutiny coming down upon her now, had she continued to report it as such. Rather than going on the defense and suggesting he absolutely IS a prisoner as a result of framing. She has essentially tried to save her work by defending the integrity of her "Witness" and she really never needed to do that at all.. Had she presented it properly.


Have you tried to reach out to her, to at least give her some solid advice? You ALWAYS make sure to speak from a neutral perspective, and she could greatly benefit from that at this point.. Especially given that her claims are that she is an "investigative journalist". While I think it is a good thing people are policing the truth movement and holding people accountable for their information, or the credibility of the field they are claiming expertise in? At some point, it just becomes bullying... And she seems oblivious as to why this is happening, even when people tell her why. Perhaps if YOU told her, she could save herself... You and Kerry woke up a LOT of people... I would hate to see her go down in flames because she missed the point of one mistake...

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 17:45
Bill, what are your thoughts on Truman Cash's research? His and his interviewees recount multiple lifetimes being interfered with by all the main ET groups, the 'pleiadians', the greys, the reptilians and the mantids.

Do you have any past, or between, life recollections of ETs interfering with your incarnation process?

I know Truman (not his real name), and have spent a little time with him in person. He's very solid.

As extreme as his accounts are, I do think they have to be taken seriously. I'm familiar with the processes he employed to uncover and reclaim all the information, which are really very reliable and precise. And I also know his regression therapist/counselor, who's highly skilled and experienced.

I've got NO recollections at all of any ETs interfering or influencing the reincarnation process. Whether that can happen or not, I truly don't know for sure.

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 18:15
Hi Bill, I have the upmost respect and appreciation for you and your work as I do for Wade Frazier and his work. I firmly believe that free energy technology is the game changer that could propel humanity into a golden age. The question is whether or not we can mass enough people with sufficient heart centered sentience and integrity to change our current trajectory. Could you please share your thoughts on free energy technology, it’s potential and the work of Wade Frazier?

BTW, many thanks to you and all the mods for providing a safe platform where Wade can share his life’s work unmolested.

Also, why did you name your dog Mara? In the Pali language of the Buddha’s time Mara means; death, negative force, evil one. But she seems like such a good dog.
:happy dog:
Thank you!

I have the utmost respect and high regard for Wade. Every word he says, and every personal experience he recounts, can be taken to the bank.

Wade knows a great deal more about Free Energy than I do —and the checkered history of all the research and personalities involved. So I'd totally defer to him.

But for sure,

The technologies are real (and there may be various ways of going about it),
They're well-understood, and been fully developed and deployed in the 'black' world, and
The authorities or agencies involved protect these secrets (and disrupt all private research) by any means necessary.

Of interest, maybe, here's yours truly with a working Bedini Machine, back in 2010. I tell the story here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94372-John-Bedini-RIP&p=1111643&viewfull=1#post1111643).


http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_John_Bedini_free_energy_generator_1.jpg


http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_John_Bedini_free_energy_generator_2.jpg

Re Mara: (talk about going from the sublime to the ridiculous!) :bigsmile:

The name just sounded neat, for a little female puppy. I'd been vaguely aware that it meant something in Buddhist mythology, but I couldn't quite remember what! :)

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 18:23
When do you believe [based on your research and experiences (and those of trusted colleagues)] that the Middle East will “run out of peace”?

Wow. Well, it's really like [relative!] peace in the area has been hanging on a thin, burning thread.

@ Everyone else: Honesty, who knows a lot of stuff, has been posting about the rise of tensions (maybe a euphemistic understatement) in the region for a while now. Do check out all his posts and started threads. The latest is this one.


Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104297-Hal-Turner-on-civil-war-in-Europe-a-strike-on-Syria-and-war-in-Israel)

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 18:42
Bill, in your opinion, who is really running things here on Earth?? Is it the reptilians who hand down the orders to the illuminatti (or do you think the highest members of the illuminatti are in fact reptilian??). Perhaps there is no ET / Reptilian influence and it is all human?? Who (or what) is at the top??

Dave - Toronto

Well, that's the big, million-dollar question. (Or, maybe, much more than that.)

I have several responses. I don't know if they could all apply simultaneously, but maybe they can.

Some of my replies earlier on the thread have been quite long. This will be concise... or else it might be a book, and I actually don't have enough solid information (or ANY solid information) to justify a long hypothetical conjecture.

But having said that, here goes.

There's definitely an external influence of some kind. As David Icke has remarked in his presentations many times, humans just don't behave in this inhuman way. You don't, I don't, our friends and neighbors don't. There's an influence on those in power which really IS inhuman.

It may be related to what some have called the Archons (with their head honcho, the Demiurge, a kind of evil God which some have asserted is actually Jehovah in the Old Testament, and I'd not disagree too strongly with that idea).

But what the Archons actually are, I can't say. It's really a term for a the CONCEPT of an infiltrating influence. This is important to understand. See my post #94 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1256559&viewfull=1#post1256559) for a little more on the Archons.

Dr Bill Deagle stated clearly in his epic and important 4-hour Dec 2006 Granada Forum Lecture that the real problem is the infiltrating influence 'Transdimensional Demonic Beings'. Here's exactly what he said:



The masters of our world are very evil. They are indwelt by astral beings, you might call them demon-possessed as in other cultures and religious structures call them, but in fact what they are is, they are astral parasites who are called transdimensional demonic beings. That’s where, as I mentioned earlier, we have to understand that our world is ruled by spiritual powers and principalities that are beyond the mind of man. In higher cultures and other civilizations, they know this.
I'd not take issue with any of that, either.

The HUMANS who are running the world — which may not be the real lords and masters of our planet, but just an intermediate level of management — are very unlikely to be known to the public. In earlier posts on this thread (quite a number of them, easy to search and find), I was asked about Charles' information, pertaining to 'The Rulers of the World' (which was always my term, not his).

He maintained that the ruling group was a Council of 33, bloodline-determined, from differing countries, but predominantly based in Europe. He talked about them in quite some depth, in a variety of different contexts and conversations, and all of it was consistent and never varied a millimeter over many months. I have to say, I found everything he said about this group totally credible.

And he always stressed that all the named groups we do know about — the Illuminati, the Knights of Malta, the Masons, the Skull and Bones, and many others — are junior to that senior group, lower in the pyramidal hierarchy. He dismissed them as being steeped in 'a kind of religion', and that they loved having 'costume parties'.

petra
14th November 2018, 18:56
Hi Bill, I read on a different thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali), you replied here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105027-Hybrid-Labs-as-described-by-Svali&p=1259129&viewfull=1#post1259129) "Svali is one of the most important (and utterly real) Illuminati whistleblowers."

Svali in the end of the OP is saying "I ask that all Christians join in prayer that this type of occultic activity would be stopped."

-Do you also think her perspective on Christians praying could help to stop the activities is a realistic one?
-If yes, how so?
-If no, why not?
-Why do you think she is specifically asking Christians to join in prayer and not just everyone from all different religions?

Yes, I think prayer can sometimes work. But very largely, I'd contend that's what WE do ourselves (knowingly or unknowingly) — as distinct from an omnipotent parent-figure magically making everything all right for us.

I believe that's a slightly unhealthy (and self-disempowering) fantasy. No disrespect is meant to anyone reading this who may have a strong Christian faith. Truly. But sometimes, it really is like a child calling out for a parent to deal with all the troubles and problems that the child can't handle. They just have to ask very, very nicely, and then start hoping. There's very little personal power (or responsibility) in that.

My view is that the reason prayer can work is that (a) we can sometimes tap into our own magical power as co-creators (which is potentially significant: each one of us can be a miracle-worker, but that ability is usually VERY hard to access), and (b) just occasionally, there are helpful discarnate spirits that can and are willing to assist.

The potential efficacy can't be confined to Christians. That seems self-evident. One can't have a formalized religion that claims to represent all humankind yet is also in a way elitist, discounting or dismissing all other faiths, cultures, beliefs and traditions. Jesus himself would never have done that.

:flower:

As a Christian, I'm just offended that there's someone discriminating against non-Christians. Jesus wouldn't discriminate either, and I really like that you're not mincing words. EDIT: Maybe they thought they might offend the non-Christians by asking them to pray =/

I'd just like to point out that talking to God/the universe/Source doesn't have to be like wishing and hoping.

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 19:03
If you were stuck on a desert island but were able to watch 1 movie (as many times as you like) what would it be?

Many years ago, while visiting San Francisco in the early 1980s, I went to see The Gods Must Be Crazy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Must_Be_Crazy) when it was first released. At the end of the movie, the entire audience spontaneously stood up and applauded. (And so did I!) I'd never witnessed that before with any film, before or since.

I was so moved and captivated by the film that I went back to see it again the very next evening. This time, of course, it was an entirely different audience. And they all stood up and applauded at the end, as well.

It's a simple, utterly delightful movie, all a slapstick comedy but with a very poignant message to it, about what the 'western' world looks like (we, the 'Gods') from the eyes of a primitive-and-naive-but-wise San Bushman. It's clever, funny, inspiring, and despite being a comedy, is profound.

The backstory of the movie is also really interesting. The actor who plays Xi the Bushman was found by the director and producer of the movie, Jamie Uys, after traveling the Kalahari Desert for three months. His name was N!xau, and I have no idea how to pronounce that. :)

N!xau didn't speak English, and had only ever seen white people a few times in his life. He had absolutely no idea what a movie was. He was just a simple farmer. But he proved to be just the most wonderful, natural, method-actor Buster-Keaton-style straight-faced comic. I can't remember how many times I've seen it over the years, and I'm sure I'd be delighted to see it many more times as well.

:)

Bill Ryan
14th November 2018, 19:07
Have you reached out to Kerry to give her advice on how to avoid being shredded in the eyes of public opinion? (Mostly in the way she handled the Mark Richards testimony)


No. I'd not even try. She doesn't respect or value my views enough to be able to listen. I feel really sure it'd be a failed mission.

Spellbound
15th November 2018, 00:27
But Tompkins was exaggerating and embellishing, I feel certain of that. He knew some things, but his book (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/William%20Mills%20Tompkins%20-%20Selected%20By%20Extraterrestrials%20-%20My%20Life%20in%20the%20Top%20Secret%20World%20of%20UFOs%2C%20Think-tanks%20and%20Nordic%20Secretaries.pdf) (I read 100 pages of it, and could go no further) was dreadful. It was an embarrassment.

Tomkins initially offered his book to Richard Dolan to publish, but Richard flatly turned him down because he felt it wasn't up to snuff.

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound
15th November 2018, 00:52
And he always stressed that all the named groups we do know about — the Illuminati, the Knights of Malta, the Masons, the Skull and Bones, and many others — are junior to that senior group, lower in the pyramidal hierarchy.

Wow!! Alrightythen!! So basically, we have no clue who is in the upper echelon of human control (let alone the actual top of the pyramid non-human entities). People always rush to reference the Illuminati (with various families/factions therein - Rothschild, etc), but in fact they are much lower on the totem pole than previously thought.

Many thanks...

Dave - Toronto

rgray222
15th November 2018, 02:26
Bill
Over the years we have seen several people say that they are thinking of committing suicide. We have seen others appear to be going off the deep end mentally. By starting such thread it seems that they are asking for help. Do you have any suggestions on how to respond or even if people should respond? Is there a coordinated effort to reach out to such individuals? Most people myself included offer words of encouragement but it hardly seems like enough. Would like to get your thoughts.
Thanks
R

DNA
15th November 2018, 07:18
The masters of our world are very evil. They are indwelt by astral beings, you might call them demon-possessed as in other cultures and religious structures call them, but in fact what they are is, they are astral parasites who are called transdimensional demonic beings. That’s where, as I mentioned earlier, we have to understand that our world is ruled by spiritual powers and principalities that are beyond the mind of man. In higher cultures and other civilizations, they know this.
The HUMANS who are running the world — which may not be the real lords and masters of our planet, but just an intermediate level of management — are very unlikely to be known to the public. In earlier posts on this thread (quite a number of them, easy to search and find), I was asked about Charles' information, pertaining to 'The Rulers of the World' (which was always my term, not his).




At the very beginning of the interview Hoss tells a story about a young Navajo that while completing an English essay assignment to write a scary story for Halloween he instead told the very real story of how his mother became a skinwalker. This is very much worth listening to in my opinion as Hoss was a white teacher on the Navajo Native American Reservation in North Eastern Arizona and talks of things that Native Navajo folk would never in a million years discuss.
Hoss also states that it is his opinion that Shamans are making themselves a vessel for another entity from another dimension, and that this is mostly the result of having committed murder.
I think there is truth to this with the elite and the rituals they carry out as well.
There are many correlations between what I have found Native Folks to describe as rituals to become a Skinwalker and rituals the elite of our world perform at the higher levels.

At 10:30 into the video the interviewer asks Hoss what the advantages are to being a skinwalker. You can tell the interviewer is assuming the answer is going to be something along the lines of being able to attain supernatural human/animal form. Hoss is in fact baited to answer along those lines and he stops himself and shifts gears, Hoss states that the Navajo belief along these lines is that the skinwalker is noted to attain great personal wealth, prestige and power, in essence becoming a skinwalker is a way of acquiring things.

Hoss then quotes Chief Manuelito, "Chief Manuelito (1818–1893) was one of the principal headmen of the Diné people before, during and after the Long Walk Period".
Chief Manulito headed the first law enforcement on the Navajo reservation and in the late 1880's he rounded up 40 skinwalkers. When asked how he was able to find them he stated it was quite easy, that the wealth gave them away. I think there is a link between the inhuman cruelty we see in the elite and folks such as real skinwalkers, there are entities that enter these folks once they have committed these abominations and as such cruelty becomes easier and easier.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUvMVnvJR4&t=1396s

Bill Ryan
15th November 2018, 10:57
Bill
Over the years we have seen several people say that they are thinking of committing suicide. We have seen others appear to be going off the deep end mentally. By starting such thread it seems that they are asking for help. Do you have any suggestions on how to respond or even if people should respond? Is there a coordinated effort to reach out to such individuals? Most people myself included offer words of encouragement but it hardly seems like enough. Would like to get your thoughts.
Thanks
R

Many thanks, and yes, whenever something like this comes to our attention, we take it very seriously and swing into action in whatever appropriate way. As indeed does the whole Avalon community.

The most recent instance was this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103693). I'll not discuss the details — which you'll understand! — only because that was a members-only thread, and this is a publicly visible one. So we do need to take care to honor and respect that member's chosen privacy. So this post doesn't become too cumbersome with the necessary anonymity, I'll simply call the member 'A'. I'm sure that all this is okay.

The thread was reported to the mods immediately by several concerned members, but we'd already seen it. I contacted 'A' myself straight away by e-mail. Meanwhile, many members posted on the thread in support, also sending a whole bunch of supportive PMs to 'A', who was suffering considerably. The problem was a physical one, one of unrelenting severe pain, combined with continually hearing harassing voices as a Targeted Individual. None of this was imaginary: 'A' was highly intelligent, educated, mature, and sane.

We quickly struck up an e-mail dialog, and 'A' and I then spoke on Skype audio in several sessions totaling many hours. 'A' and I were working to get to the bottom of what was really happening in a very complicated and difficult situation.

To cut a long story short, this dialog seemed to help a great deal, following which 'A' became occupied with a different opportunity, a positive and enjoyable one. (This was the chance to appear in a TV feature, 100% unrelated to 'A's condition.) The last message I received was that the voices had stopped, which seemed to be coincident with the failure of a medical device that had been implanted a few years previously. 'A' declared — adamantly and understandably! — that this would NOT be replaced.

'A' hasn't yet returned to the forum to post again, but I think this can be very easily understood. It was certainly nothing to do with any lack of appreciation for the members' care and concern. 'A's appreciation and gratitude was immense.

None of this may be too easy to follow by non-members reading this (though many members will know what all this is about) — but they may get the clear idea that we do indeed respond very actively when situations like this come to our attention.

As can also be seen in the recent threads regarding Shadowself/Brook (who tragically failed to defeat her cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101221-Cancer-killing-Killing-Cancer-My-Heart-Path)), Foxie Loxie, who has taken a needed break (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104864-How-is-Foxie-Loxie-doing) from the forum, and Sierra, who lost everything in the Paradise fire (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me), the moderators and members all combine to take a great deal of care of everyone they can.

This care and concern that is regularly shown — very often by the members themselves, with little extra being needed from the mods team as moderators — is one of the many defining high quality features of the Avalon Forum. This is a truly caring and compassionate community, and we can all be proud of that. I'm most certainly really proud of the community myself.

:flower:

Franny
16th November 2018, 05:52
Hello Bill, This has been a fascinating thread; great questions, great answers. Thank you for doing it.

I have a big question. The first part is generally about what you know of Credo Mutwa and what he has been up to recently? Also, would you know if his old Zulu history ‘necklace' been found?

I’d like to tie that in to our missing history if I may. Since he is quite knowledgeable on Zulu ancient history perhaps he has some information that could place it within the context of a connected ancient global culture.

I have been watching a YT series by newearth, they have dozens of videos. I’ve been hesitant to share it on PA because they don’t always support their suppositions and conclusions well. It seems they want to make their point by finding a lot of dots to connect. Also they don’t always mention precisely where they are filming or on video clips and photos they include - it’s a little frustrating.

Never the less they do find a lot of places all over the planet that do indicate a planet-wide shared culture that has been systematically removed from our memory and history. Very interesting series as they do dig up quite a lot of truly fascinating stuff. Some videos are much better than others and, frankly, they are not professional researchers, but I do enjoy their take on things.

Some of the artifacts Klaus Dona showed in his videos come to mind as well as Michael Cremo, pyramids all over the planet, giants, and similar art styles and polygonal monolithic structures on all continents and more.

So my main question is that I wonder if Credo Mutwa has shared with you about his lost history or it’s part in global history - and what would be your take on an ancient planet-wide culture.

Many thanks!

Bill Ryan
16th November 2018, 06:45
Hello Bill, This has been a fascinating thread; great questions, great answers. Thank you for doing it.

I have a big question. The first part is generally about what you know of Credo Mutwa and what he has been up to recently? Also, would you know if his old Zulu history ‘necklace' been found?

I’d like to tie that in to our missing history if I may. Since he is quite knowledgeable on Zulu ancient history perhaps he has some information that could place it within the context of a connected ancient global culture.

I have been watching a YT series by newearth, they have dozens of videos. I’ve been hesitant to share it on PA because they don’t always support their suppositions and conclusions well. It seems they want to make their point by finding a lot of dots to connect. Also they don’t always mention precisely where they are filming or on video clips and photos they include - it’s a little frustrating.

Never the less they do find a lot of places all over the planet that do indicate a planet-wide shared culture that has been systematically removed from our memory and history. Very interesting series as they do dig up quite a lot of truly fascinating stuff. Some videos are much better than others and, frankly, they are not professional researchers, but I do enjoy their take on things.

Some of the artifacts Klaus Dona showed in his videos come to mind as well as Michael Cremo, pyramids all over the planet, giants, and similar art styles and polygonal monolithic structures on all continents and more.

So my main question is that I wonder if Credo Mutwa has shared with you about his lost history or it’s part in global history - and what would be your take on an ancient planet-wide culture.

Many thanks!

Great question, and thank you for the care with which you framed it. My reply may be disappointing! :)

I've not been in touch with Credo Mutwa since my visit to him with David Icke in 2010. I simply have no update. As best I know, the stolen necklace has never been recovered, though I'd be delighted to be corrected if anyone has better information.

Credo talked with us at length about African history, but he never referred to a lost global culture.

But I do know the newearth YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqLPTe6eEeBP10Zhu5p-0cQ). The many videos there are fascinating. The female Russian narrator (speaking good but accented English) is sometimes tricky to listen to, but the content is rich, well-documented, and well-filmed. It's a goldmine of fascinating archeological information and insight.

I'm convinced there was an antediluvian (pre-dating the Great Flood) global civilization — or, at least, a very widespread one, spanning continents. Fascinating for me personally, this question comes at the very end of a day which I've spent poring over the announcement of the smoking gun discovery of an enormous asteroid crater in Greenland that really does look as if it's the impact, or maybe one of a fusillade of several, that launched the Younger-Dryas ice age 12,900 years ago — and would have almost completely obliterated just about everyone and everything at that time.


Huge asteroid crater found under the ice in Greenland (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105080-Huge-asteroid-crater-found-under-the-ice-in-Greenland)

I've been thinking and reading about this for hours. I've actually felt really very emotional about it — much to my own surprise. This is more than just another geological discovery. It changes all history. It's the giant missing piece that was needed to complete the picture that we all strongly guessed was there.

The asteroid was one mile across. The violence of the impact is estimated to have been like a 700 megaton atomic explosion. Immense firestorms would have raged across the northern hemisphere. Tsunamis up to a mile high would have swept round the globe destroying every coastline and decimating every port city.

Only giant stone structures could possibly have remained standing. The tiny numbers of civilized, educated people who survived — knowledge-carriers of their destroyed peoples — relocated to Mesopotamia and the Middle East.

And their descendants, their collective memory gradually failing with each new generation, began the many thousands of years of rebuilding a small amount of what had been lost... aided, I believe, by partially sympathetic (but maybe not always entirely altruistic) ETs, who would have witnessed the entire catastrophe.

Those became the Gods of myth and legend. Just as Tom DeLonge says.

Meanwhile, the loss of an entire civilization was literally immeasurable. A vast, almost unimaginable tragedy. As Graham Hancock maintains, we're a race with amnesia: and no wonder. All of humanity, and everything it had built and created, suddenly crashed to the ground like a giant, sawn, Redwood tree. All this was the Fall of Man.

I've spoken of this elsewhere in this thread, but I do think that somewhere in that chaotic aftermath, sometime in the 8,000+ years that followed, an opportunistic, malevolent influence fell upon the human race that was not there before.

That's how come we have the world today.

If that asteroid had been just a small handful of hours earlier or later in its million year cosmic journey, everything we are now might be very, very different.

Aviator
16th November 2018, 21:57
Thx a lot for opening and continuing this thread, it's a pleasure to read your responses to some of these questions.

Would you like to talk a little more about your experience with Ron’s Org (Scientology)? What is your opinion about L. Ron Hubbard?

What do you know and/or think about
1. Hubbard’s early contacts with black magic, Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons (the rocket scientist) etc.
2. Dianetics
3. Scientology in the 1950th (PDCs etc.)
4. Scientology in the 1960th (OT levels, Sea Org)
5. Hubbard in the 1970th and 1980th (was he replaced by a double or clone?)
6. Strange circumstances about Hubbard’s hideout and death
7. The OT3 Story
8. “Old” and “New” OT levels (NOTS)
9. Captain Bill
10. Upper OT Levels above OT8

Bill Ryan
16th November 2018, 23:25
Thx a lot for opening and continuing this thread, it's a pleasure to read your responses to some of these questions.

Would you like to talk a little more about your experience with Ron’s Org (Scientology)?

Yes, for sure. My answers here won't be too in-depth or technical, or else many people reading this might not be able to follow me very easily (or, maybe not at all :) ). You're most welcome to PM me, if you like (as is anyone else with quite some background knowledge already), and I can probably enlarge on some of this to quite some degree.

What is your opinion about L. Ron Hubbard?




The words of Ken Ogger ('The Pilot') come to mind: "L. Ron Hubbard was a self-taught intuitive genius."




I think that says it perfectly.
What do you know and/or think about

1. Hubbard’s early contacts with black magic, Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons (the rocket scientist) etc.



I think he wanted to investigate (and experience) what many people call 'the occult', primarily because he wanted to know and learn as much as he possibly could about the powers and limitations of the mind. So he simply explored everything he could at that early time, turning over every stone.

In Hubbard's later work, as you may know, he created a number of processes and procedures that would DEFEND against 'black magic', and/or remedy its harmful effects on people. In order to do that, one has to understand how black magic works. Hubbard was most definitely not any kind of 'black magician'.
2. Dianetics



When properly and ethically applied, it can work miracles, and easily, too.

I say 'when properly and ethically applied'. Here's an EXACT analogy.

If you take your car to an auto mechanic for repair, you need to know that not only are they skilled and competent, but that they're also ethical, and won't rip you off. And some mechanics DO rip people off... in three possible ways:


They can simply overcharge for work that another might do for half the cost, or less.
They might do unnecessary work, and then bill you for all the extra parts and labor.
They might even create a problem, or deliberately leave a problem unrepaired, so that after paying $500 for the work, they know you'd have to come back a month later and spent another $500 on something that they knew was going to cause the next problem. If a mechanic was really unscrupulous (and very clever), they could easily get you coming back for more 'necessary' work, month after month after month.

3. Scientology in the 1950s (PDCs etc.)



A lot of Hubbard's early work, and the body of techniques he developed, was very powerful indeed. But one of the problems with some of that was that it didn't work 100% reliably on absolutely everyone... maybe just most people.

He wanted to create a methodology that trained (but maybe relatively inexperienced) councilors (called 'auditors') could do with equally inexperienced newcomer clients, and achieve dependable, predictable results each time. So in the mid- to late-1950s (if I have my dates right), he refined his approach, carefully codified it all, and some of the early but very powerful 'hit-and-miss' techniques were relegated to be deployed only optionally.
4. Scientology in the 1960s (OT levels, Sea Org)



The 'OT levels' were all valid, and technically worked extremely well. But round about that time, or beginning at that time, Hubbard started to become more and more paranoid — not without some good reason, as just about every government and/or agency was after him, and there were serious ongoing attempts to infiltrate the 'Church'. (Note that the infiltrations eventually succeeded, in the late 70s and early 80s.)

Hence the 'Sea Org' was founded, which was regimented in a quasi-military way, although in many respects it soon became very clear that Hubbard went way over the top in his defensive response.

I do recommend this excellent book by Peter Moon, the author of the 'Montauk' series. He was in the Sea Org in the 1970s, and writes this fascinating autobiographical account of all his experiences, including with Hubbard both directly and indirectly. Don't be put off by the terrible title! :)

The Montauk Book of the Dead
https://amazon.com/Montauk-Book-Dead-Moon-Peter (https://amazon.com/Montauk-Book-Dead-Moon-Peter)

5. Hubbard in the 1970s and 1980s (was he replaced by a double or clone?)



I don't think he was 'replaced' in the way that some have asserted he might have been. But rather like Saddam Hussein (and maybe many others!) he may well have had a couple of body doubles in play. Logically, that might make a lot of sense. But I've never heard that reported seriously by anyone whose word I trust.
6. Strange circumstances about Hubbard’s hideout and death



Yes, many strange circumstances. Here's one video, a 2003 seminar presentation by Allen Wright (who was a friend of mine, and knew a lot of stuff) — called When did L. Ron Hubbard die?


http://avalonlibrary.net/When_did_L._Ron_Hubbard_die%3F_Allen_Wright_Ron's_Org_Convention_2003.mp4

It's 33 mins long. The video quality isn't the best, but it's well worth listening to for anyone with some interest in the topic. As best I know, this is the first time it's been posted in the public domain. It's part of my (quite extensive) personal library, and is nowhere on YouTube or on any other site.
7. The OT3 Story




Well, it seems wild, and all logistically impossible. But all I can say is that if one 'audits' (processes) using the prescribed techniques and procedures, real things are released and real benefits result. That's definitive. So, pragmatically speaking, it works very well. The whole 'backstory' may not really matter too much.

Here's a very silly, deliberately exaggerated analogy. It's NOT a very good analogy — at all! For many reasons — but you may get the point I'm making.

You go to a doctor with a stomach complaint. He says, "Ah, a big bad boogie-woogie bird has visited you in your sleep and laid its eggs inside you. Just take these antibiotics." So you take the antibiotics.... and then, next week, you're much better. :)8. “Old” and “New” OT levels (NOTs)



The 'old' OT levels worked just fine (and they still would, though few people do them any more). When the 'new' OT levels were developed and substituted — NOTs, meaning OT5, and then OT7 — they constituted an incomplete procedure, and one that could (by its nature) NEVER complete.

That's why it simply (and literally) never ended. Some people did three sessions a day on OT7, every day, for 15 or more years. OMG. One might figure they'd have realized that there was something wrong!

Another analogy, this time an exact one again: it's like trying to empty a bath tub with the taps still on. One has to find a way to turn the taps OFF... and then empty the bath.

That's what 'Captain' Bill Robertson did (see the next question below) when he researched and developed the successor-replacement for OT5 and OT7 in 1986, which he called 'Excalibur'. That was a piece of breakthrough brilliance, and it works perfectly.

There's no need now for ANYONE to do OT5 and OT7. If they do, they'll just get into the hamster-wheel never-ending thing again.
9. Captain Bill Robertson




I knew him personally: not well, but I spent some time with him and talked with him many times. I was privileged to have had that opportunity to do so. He was a remarkable, powerful man, of the highest integrity. I have the greatest respect for him, and for all his (very extensive) post-LRH research work which extends all the OT levels many magnitudes further.
10. Upper OT Levels above OT8



They all do exactly what they say they'll do, all the way to the last levels Bill Robertson developed, in 1990. He took all the basics of Hubbard's research, and built on that with new discoveries and insights of his own that extended the entire 'Bridge' really a very long way. The entire edifice he developed was 100% entirely logical and sound.

James Newell
17th November 2018, 01:21
This is a very good writeup Bill. I agree with pretty much everything. One small point, they didn't codify the processes until the mid sixties, when he came out with the basic grade chart. I could add details but you did such a concise job why push it.

Franny
17th November 2018, 02:25
Great question, and thank you for the care with which you framed it. My reply may be disappointing!

I've not been in touch with Credo Mutwa since my visit to him with David Icke in 2010. I simply have no update. As best I know, the stolen necklace has never been recovered, though I'd be delighted to be corrected if anyone has better information.

Credo talked with us at length about African history, but he never referred to a lost global culture.

Ah, thanks for that. It was just that visit I was thinking of. I recall he spoke about Zulu and African history but was not supportive of Michael Tellinger's hypothesis about the many structures found in southern area of Africa.

I do like newearth, the information they come up with is amazing and fascinating. I've sent some videos to friends and the responses were not positive so I've been hesitant to share. I'm pleased another who likes them.

The woman is actually from Bulgaria, she has a bio video available, and some of the aspects of her life are quite interesting. One interesting bit is her experience and views of Bulgaria during and after communism.

Thanks for your answer and the heads up on the asteroid in Greenland. It does look like it will help kickstart a big change.

Aviator
17th November 2018, 12:03
Thx a lot for opening and continuing this thread, it's a pleasure to read your responses to some of these questions.

Would you like to talk a little more about your experience with Ron’s Org (Scientology)?

Yes, for sure. My answers here won't be too in-depth or technical, or else many people reading this might not be able to follow me very easily (or, maybe not at all :) ). You're most welcome to PM me, if you like (as is anyone else with quite some background knowledge already), and I can probably enlarge on some of this to quite some degree.

What is your opinion about L. Ron Hubbard?




The words of Ken Ogger ('The Pilot') come to mind: "L. Ron Hubbard was a self-taught intuitive genius."




I think that says it perfectly.
What do you know and/or think about

1. Hubbard’s early contacts with black magic, Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons (the rocket scientist) etc.



I think he wanted to investigate (and experience) what many people call 'the occult', primarily because he wanted to know and learn as much as he possibly could about the powers and limitations of the mind. So he simply explored everything he could at that early time, turning over every stone.

In Hubbard's later work, as you may know, he created a number of processes and procedures that would DEFEND against 'black magic', and/or remedy its harmful effects on people. In order to do that, one has to understand how black magic works. Hubbard was most definitely not any kind of 'black magician'.
2. Dianetics



When properly and ethically applied, it can work miracles, and easily, too.

I say 'when properly and ethically applied'. Here's an EXACT analogy.

If you take your car to an auto mechanic for repair, you need to know that not only are they skilled and competent, but that they're also ethical, and won't rip you off. And some mechanics DO rip people off... in three possible ways:


They can simply overcharge for work that another might do for half the cost, or less.
They might do unnecessary work, and then bill you for all the extra parts and labor.
They might even create a problem, or deliberately leave a problem unrepaired, so that after paying $500 for the work, they know you'd have to come back a month later and spent another $500 on something that they knew was going to cause the next problem. If a mechanic was really unscrupulous (and very clever), they could easily get you coming back for more 'necessary' work, month after month after month.

3. Scientology in the 1950s (PDCs etc.)



A lot of Hubbard's early work, and the body of techniques he developed, was very powerful indeed. But one of the problems with some of that was that it didn't work 100% reliably on absolutely everyone... maybe just most people.

He wanted to create a methodology that trained (but maybe relatively inexperienced) councilors (called 'auditors') could do with equally inexperienced newcomer clients, and achieve dependable, predictable results each time. So in the mid- to late-1950s (if I have my dates right), he refined his approach, carefully codified it all, and some of the early but very powerful 'hit-and-miss' techniques were relegated to be deployed only optionally.
4. Scientology in the 1960s (OT levels, Sea Org)



The 'OT levels' were all valid, and technically worked extremely well. But round about that time, or beginning at that time, Hubbard started to become more and more paranoid — not without some good reason, as just about every government and/or agency was after him, and there were serious ongoing attempts to infiltrate the 'Church'. (Note that the infiltrations eventually succeeded, in the late 70s and early 80s.)

Hence the 'Sea Org' was founded, which was regimented in a quasi-military way, although in many respects it soon became very clear that Hubbard went way over the top in his defensive response.

I do recommend this excellent book by Peter Moon, the author of the 'Montauk' series. He was in the Sea Org in the 1970s, and writes this fascinating autobiographical account of all his experiences, including with Hubbard both directly and indirectly. Don't be put off by the terrible title! :)

The Montauk Book of the Dead
https://amazon.com/Montauk-Book-Dead-Moon-Peter (https://amazon.com/Montauk-Book-Dead-Moon-Peter)

5. Hubbard in the 1970s and 1980s (was he replaced by a double or clone?)



I don't think he was 'replaced' in the way that some have asserted he might have been. But rather like Saddam Hussein (and maybe many others!) he may well have had a couple of body doubles in play. Logically, that might make a lot of sense. But I've never heard that reported seriously by anyone whose word I trust.
6. Strange circumstances about Hubbard’s hideout and death



Yes, many strange circumstances. Here's one video, a 2003 seminar presentation by Allen Wright (who was a friend of mine, and knew a lot of stuff) — called When did L. Ron Hubbard die?


http://avalonlibrary.net/When_did_L._Ron_Hubbard_die%3F_Allen_Wright_Ron's_Org_Convention_2003.mp4

It's 33 mins long. The video quality isn't the best, but it's well worth listening to for anyone with some interest in the topic. As best I know, this is the first time it's been posted in the public domain. It's part of my (quite extensive) personal library, and is nowhere on YouTube or on any other site.
7. The OT3 Story




Well, it seems wild, and all logistically impossible. But all I can say is that if one 'audits' (processes) using the prescribed techniques and procedures, real things are released and real benefits result. That's definitive. So, pragmatically speaking, it works very well. The whole 'backstory' may not really matter too much.

Here's a very silly, deliberately exaggerated analogy. It's NOT a very good analogy — at all! For many reasons — but you may get the point I'm making.

You go to a doctor with a stomach complaint. He says, "Ah, a big bad boogie-woogie bird has visited you in your sleep and laid its eggs inside you. Just take these antibiotics." So you take the antibiotics.... and then, next week, you're much better. :)8. “Old” and “New” OT levels (NOTs)



The 'old' OT levels worked just fine (and they still would, though few people do them any more). When the 'new' OT levels were developed and substituted — NOTs, meaning OT5, and then OT7 — they constituted an incomplete procedure, and one that could (by its nature) NEVER complete.

That's why it simply (and literally) never ended. Some people did three sessions a day on OT7, every day, for 15 or more years. OMG. One might figure they'd have realized that there was something wrong!

Another analogy, this time an exact one again: it's like trying to empty a bath tub with the taps still on. One has to find a way to turn the taps OFF... and then empty the bath.

That's what 'Captain' Bill Robertson did (see the next question below) when he researched and developed the successor-replacement for OT5 and OT7 in 1986, which he called 'Excalibur'. That was a piece of breakthrough brilliance, and it works perfectly.

There's no need now for ANYONE to do OT5 and OT7. If they do, they'll just get into the hamster-wheel never-ending thing again.
9. Captain Bill Robertson




I knew him personally: not well, but I spent some time with him and talked with him many times. I was privileged to have had that opportunity to do so. He was a remarkable, powerful man, of the highest integrity. I have the greatest respect for him, and for all his (very extensive) post-LRH research work which extends all the OT levels many magnitudes further.
10. Upper OT Levels above OT8



They all do exactly what they say they'll do, all the way to the last levels Bill Robertson developed, in 1990. He took all the basics of Hubbard's research, and built on that with new discoveries and insights of his own that extended the entire 'Bridge' really a very long way. The entire edifice he developed was 100% entirely logical and sound.


Thanks for your specific response to all my questions and items, also for the very interesting video.

Based on my own experiences and investigations I agree with you in most of your findings and opinions. Original Scientology is a fascinating workable technology.

One of the things I don’t fully understand yet is the fact that, on one hand, Hubbard was able to come up with this spectacular workable technology by himself without getting confused and distracted by all the insanity and false data we face here on this planet. On the other hand he became kind of psychotic later in his lifetime and lost complete control over his own creation. In order to fully understand him and his appearance on planet earth, we probably need some more (maybe still hidden) data regarding his background and the game he was/is involved in.

What do you think?

sunwings
17th November 2018, 17:31
Do you feel you have a book inside of you, waiting to be written?

If a film was made about your life, which actor would you like to play you (past/present)?

Which parts of your life standout as your happiest?

Sunny-side-up
18th November 2018, 11:51
Do you feel you have a book inside of you, waiting to be written?

If a film was made about your life, which actor would you like to play you (past/present)?

Which parts of your life standout as your happiest?

I was going to ask similar questions.
This Questions and answers post (which is pure gold) would make a great book.
take the contents as the main read, just as is.
It would be a great book to give people just waking would find an easy way in to this world.

you are such a respected, trusted, objective, knowledgeable and very well experienced person Bill.

I would buy a few of those books (One for my self signed by you :happythumbsup: for myself) others for those in need ;)

Books are better for fresh to the subject minds, they can read a bit, flick through and pick it up any time anywhere, which I like to do..internet reading is so distracting, i go off on tangents of investigation to much.


So that is a real question and request for you there Bill, great stuff.

Bill Ryan
18th November 2018, 13:06
Thanks for your specific response to all my questions and items, also for the very interesting video.

Based on my own experiences and investigations I agree with you in most of your findings and opinions. Original Scientology is a fascinating workable technology.

One of the things I don’t fully understand yet is the fact that, on one hand, Hubbard was able to come up with this spectacular workable technology by himself without getting confused and distracted by all the insanity and false data we face here on this planet. On the other hand he became kind of psychotic later in his lifetime and lost complete control over his own creation. In order to fully understand him and his appearance on planet earth, we probably need some more (maybe still hidden) data regarding his background and the game he was/is involved in.

What do you think?

Well, I was never in the 'Church', and never knew Hubbard. But of course, I've heard all the stories.

James Newell (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?30394-James-Newell) (see his post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260081&viewfull=1#post1260081) above) may be able to say more, and he might do this on this specialist thread where I copied your earlier question, and my long answer. (I've copied this there, too.)


Q and A about Ron Hubbard, Bill Robertson, Scientology, the Free Zone and Ron's Org (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-and-Ron-s-Org)

Four responses to the question! All of them may apply.


Some of the reports will definitely be exaggerated. One of the things that definitely occurred — because Scientology processing is such a necessarily exact thing — is that if processing mistakes were made, and someone ended up more upset as a result (and this can most definitely happen), then that person might easily get super-vehemently-critical of Hubbard.

Many (or most!) of those posting on the ex-Scientology forums definitely don't seem in very good shape. Whatever happened with those people, something went badly wrong. I feel I can state that as a fact.



Peter Moon, in his excellent and fascinating Scientology autobiography The Montauk Book of the Dead (https://amazon.com/Montauk-Book-Dead-Moon-Peter) (see my answer #4 in my post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=1260070#post1260070)) addresses this question himself. He explains in some detail how many of the excesses (and in some cases, sheer insanity!) displayed in the Sea Org did NOT originate from Hubbard, but from others senior in the organization. I believe (but do not know for sure) that James Newell might corroborate this, at least in part.



I once asked this very question to someone I knew well, an 'old-timer' who'd been in the 'Church' since 1952: a wonderful man, who was highly skilled and trained, had known Hubbard personally, and had seen just about everything. (He'd left the Church' many years ago, after it had been taken over in the early 1980s.)

He pointed out that Hubbard had done a great deal of his research and development on himself, including experimental processes that he'd abandoned because they didn't work, or didn't work well enough. The very rough analogy (not a good one, but you get the point!) is like a brain surgeon trying out new procedures on himself in the mirror. :) If things go wrong, he may learn a lot, but there'd be scars, and maybe some residual malfunctions.



As some reading this may well understand (from their own experience!) Hubbard was certainly under attack almost ALL THE TIME, including from entities — which Scientology has all the processes and understanding needed to address and handle. But Hubbard himself never completed all the necessary research into entity handling. This is important to understand. That was continued and extended in the mid- to late-1980s by Bill Robertson, and is now complete.

Bill Ryan
18th November 2018, 13:26
1. Do you feel you have a book inside of you, waiting to be written?

2. If a film was made about your life, which actor would you like to play you (past/present)?

3. Which parts of your life standout as your happiest?

1. Well, my mother was a published author, and I know I'm a good writer. I quite often ask myself the same question. :)

But there are two issues here.


Few people read books any more. (Just as few people watch 4-hour documentaries: even a 15 minute YouTube clip can sometimes feel too long.)



I'm genuinely not sure what any book I might write would focus on as its subject. Truly.

That's because I'm not a specialist in any one area of research. Many others out there ARE specialists, and they hold the torch for their own field.

But I'm a generalist. I know a lot about a lot of things. This thread kind of epitomizes that. There's an irony here regarding Kerry Cassidy, as well, which topic comes up several times in this thread. She never knew enough to realize that I really did know a huge amount. (Read that sentence again! It's true.)

If there was a kind of Alternative Media Olympics, I might be the gold medal decathlete, really. But I'd not win any other track and field event. Which other UFO researchers know such a lot about sea monsters, reincarnation, alternative medicine, astrophysics, aerospace, ancient history, paleontology, and the Holographic Universe? (And climb mountains, as well. :) )

~~~

2. An Actor?? OMG. It'd have to be Benedict Cumberbatch. :P

3. The happiest period of my life? When I lived and worked in the English Lake District for three years, climbing mountains every other day and working in team-building and self-development with sponsored corporate groups. That was before life got all complicated. :)

avid
18th November 2018, 16:43
The dawn over the Lake District this morning was amazing, not a cloud in the sky, and I watched what was (I hope) the International Space Station so bright for hours not far above. Hope you can back here some day, although Ecuador seems very exciting... :bearhug:

scotslad
18th November 2018, 22:28
"Few people read books anymore" - true, but there's a real thirst for wisdom - not knowledge = more than ever before - hence why many of us are here on this forum. If I recall - "Terra incognita" is featured on page 1 of dianetics and is so true for many people. Many have a thirst and hunger for wisdom, not information, disinformation or misinformation - and you appear to rise above the many in your field with your ability to share wisdom and fact based on real personal experience and thorough research and have dared to explore many uncharted waters. fair play to you squire - keep up the good work. It's hard, it's challenging and many of your peers try but do not surpass you ;) Keep on truckin' squire.

scotslad
18th November 2018, 22:38
I do have 2 questions for you if I may....

1. Who has been the most fascinating, and "revealing" person you have interviewed over the years? And what did they share you were able to verify, slap your forehead and shock you to your core.

2. Who have you interviewed that you thought "aye aye I smell bull ****" compelled you to switch off your camera, and think "i'm outa here." - the interviewee that you absolutely knew more than any other was telling porky pies

curious ;)

Sunny-side-up
18th November 2018, 22:58
The dawn over the Lake District this morning was amazing, not a cloud in the sky, and I watched what was (I hope) the International Space Station so bright for hours not far above. Hope you can back here some day, although Ecuador seems very exciting... :bearhug:

Hmm? don't think it was the ISS avid, it fly's over in about 3 or 4 mins or so not hours.

Cant believe I'm going to say this but, it might have been Venus.
Venus very bright in the sky.
was the thing you where watching moving?
or it might have been something other 0.o

Bill Ryan
19th November 2018, 19:09
I do have 2 questions for you if I may....

1. Who has been the most fascinating, and "revealing" person you have interviewed over the years? And what did they share you were able to verify, slap your forehead and shock you to your core.

2. Who have you interviewed that you thought "aye aye I smell bull ****" compelled you to switch off your camera, and think "i'm outa here." - the interviewee that you absolutely knew more than any other was telling porky pies

curious ;)

1. 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann). He was 100% for real, and I spent over a hundred hours with him personally.

Nothing he said, about having visited Mars, could be verified (of course). But he showed Kerry Cassidy and myself all his documentation, and we visited the pub in the village near to his last workplace, sitting quietly in a corner while we watched his former colleagues greet him in surprise.

He never changed or embellished his story, and freely admitted there was much he didn't know. The best presentation he ever gave, which I think is very important, is here. He comes over as extremely anxious and disorganized, very reluctant to be in that pressured situation.

Beware the 'whistleblower' with a smile on their face who is articulate, confident, and totally at ease.


http://avalonlibrary.net/Henry_Deacon_2013_Conference_Presentation_on_Time_Travel_and_Mars_EXTRACT.mp4


2. Patrick Geryl, about a coming global cataclysm in 2012. He believed everything he was saying, but neither Kerry or I did. That was the only video we released where we added a captioned caveat statement to the video intro saying we could not support his thesis. (Note: once 2013 arrived, Geryl wisely deleted all the content from his website. :) )

http://projectavalon.net/Patrick_Geryl_Camelot_caveat.gif

Tree Of Life
19th November 2018, 19:21
Hello Bill,

I have read your very heart-revealing thread.

You mention dreams from childhood of seeing a giant tidal wave coming for the shore.
I have had the same dream since I was a child... one of the first I ever remembered.
Sometimes I am standing on the shore, other times I am watching from above.

Now that it is being revealed that a collision crater has been found that effected the entire Earth, perhaps an explanation for the tidal wave dream has finally appeared.
You are the only other person I have read about, or know personally, to share this dream experience!

Here is my question for you...

Have you ever experienced deja' vu in a place, or with a person?

Thank you for this great thread!

Tree Of Life

onawah
19th November 2018, 21:21
I had a very frightening lucid dream years ago when I was still living on the West Coast which I can remember now as if it were yesterday.
It was frightening mostly because I felt it was prophetic, and soon after, I met an extremely psychic man who had had several such dreams.
It was about a tsunami inundating much of the West Coast, and in both our dreams, it was happening within our lifetimes.
It's one of the reasons why I moved away, and one of the reasons I am very concerned about my friends who still live there, and why I keep an eye on Dutchsinse's reports about earthquakes, etc., especially about the "slow slip" which both he and the "experts" have predicted is going to cause something huge, similar to what happened to Japan/Fukushima.
What are your thoughts on that Bill, and have you encountered any convincing evidence regarding such a possibility?
Thank you.

Bill Ryan
19th November 2018, 22:33
Now that it is being revealed that a collision crater has been found that effected the entire Earth, perhaps an explanation for the tidal wave dream has finally appeared.

Or, it might be prophetic... see my reply in my next post #382 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260427&viewfull=1#post1260427).


Have you ever experienced deja' vu in a place, or with a person?

Actually, no! Not in the sense I think you mean.

But I have definitely been to locations where it suddenly hit me that I'd DEFINITELY been there before. (And, also with people, when I instantly felt I knew them of old. That's happened many times now.)

One experience of the former was when I was on a bus traveling from Kargil to Leh (in Ladakh, Northern India), and the bus stopped on the top of a very high mountain pass. In front of us I could see all the brown plains of Tibet reaching out for hundreds of miles, amid ranges of rolling desert mountains.

I just went, Whoooooomf. It was an enormous feeling of lightness and expansion.

That was back in 1988. I didn't know it at the time, but I later discovered I'd been in Tibet for 1000 years, incarnating in the West in 1850. Then, of course, it all made perfect sense. From that viewpoint where the bus stopped, I was gazing out at my homeland.

Strat
19th November 2018, 22:43
What's your favorite food/dish? Feel free to include appetizers, sides, deserts or whatever.

Bill Ryan
19th November 2018, 23:00
I had a very frightening lucid dream years ago when I was still living on the West Coast which I can remember now as if it were yesterday.
It was frightening mostly because I felt it was prophetic, and soon after, I met an extremely psychic man who had had several such dreams.
It was about a tsunami inundating much of the West Coast, and in both our dreams, it was happening within our lifetimes.
It's one of the reasons why I moved away, and one of the reasons I am very concerned about my friends who still live there, and why I keep an eye on Dutchsinse's reports about earthquakes, etc., especially about the "slow slip" which both he and the "experts" have predicted is going to cause something huge, similar to what happened to Japan/Fukushima.
What are your thoughts on that Bill, and have you encountered any convincing evidence regarding such a possibility?
Thank you.

No convincing evidence, per se. But I'm constantly reminded of Warren Light (wnlight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019))'s thread, here:


World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102695-World-Wide-City-Population-Changes-by-End-of-2019)

For anyone reading who may not be up to speed on this, Warren (a) is a retired mathematician who worked at Fermilab under Richard Feynman, and also (b) did classified work for the US military at the Nevada Test Site. So he's smart, highly educated, sane, and grounded. He's no airhead. :)

But he's also been a dowser for many years, and a good one, too. He hit a home run on this thread, started on 28 October, 2016:


And the winner is … (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94125-And-the-winner-is---)

... when he announced that his predictive dowsing of the results of the US Presidential election had changed, and the winner would now be Trump. He didn't even fully believe it himself, but he had the courage to log his forecast publicly. Kudos. :)

So, Warren has a pretty good track record. But what's REALLY worrying here is that for years now he's been 'told' through his dowsing that starting at the end of next year (2019), there will be catastrophic earth changes, involving almighty tsunami coastal inundation, the loss of some land areas, and the rising of new ones from the seabed.

He checks this regularly, hoping that just like his original prediction of Hillary as the new President, it would one day change. But it never has.

We meet regularly for coffee (we live about 25 miles apart), and discuss this each time. Warren tells me that he STILL 'gets' these huge flooding events. He does not know the mechanism, but it's something massive.

Hence the title of his thread above, about the population changes. MANY people would perish: if not immediately, in the months to come from disease, famine, infrastructure failure, civil unrest, and nuclear power station meltdowns (many of which are in coastal areas, like Fukushima).

It's sobering. And recently, too, Linda Howe has been reporting that she's been contacted by MANY people with dreams of huge waves. Here's the video (https://youtube.com/watch?v=RSygVnPtSmc): start at 07:50, for 10 minutes. She's even been in direct touch with Warren herself, at my introduction, and they talked for two hours about all this.

Everyone hopes this is all nonsense; but, we'll just have to wait and see. Pretty much a year to go, but Warren says there will be precursors (a major event in Hawaii is one of them — in May, if I remember right), that will be indicators of whether these end-2019 events are likely to manifest.

If there are no precursor events, then maybe we can all relax. But if something big does goes down in Hawaii early next summer.... then it might be an idea to head for the hills. Not a joke.

Bill Ryan
19th November 2018, 23:08
What's your favorite food/dish? Feel free to include appetizers, sides, deserts or whatever.

Mongolian barbecue. :sun:

onawah
19th November 2018, 23:26
Great post from Bill on that thread (which he refers to in his post above) here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102695-World-Wide-City-Population-Changes-by-End-of-2019&p=1223583&viewfull=1#post1223583

TomKat
20th November 2018, 01:26
I had a very frightening lucid dream years ago when I was still living on the West Coast which I can remember now as if it were yesterday.
It was frightening mostly because I felt it was prophetic, and soon after, I met an extremely psychic man who had had several such dreams.
It was about a tsunami inundating much of the West Coast, and in both our dreams, it was happening within our lifetimes.
It's one of the reasons why I moved away, and one of the reasons I am very concerned about my friends who still live there, and why I keep an eye on Dutchsinse's reports about earthquakes, etc., especially about the "slow slip" which both he and the "experts" have predicted is going to cause something huge, similar to what happened to Japan/Fukushima.
What are your thoughts on that Bill, and have you encountered any convincing evidence regarding such a possibility?
Thank you.

No convincing evidence, per se. But I'm constantly reminded of Warren Light (wnlight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019))'s thread, here:


World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102695-World-Wide-City-Population-Changes-by-End-of-2019)

For anyone reading who may not be up to speed on this, Warren (a) is a retired mathematician who worked at Fermilab under Richard Feynman, and also (b) did classified work for the US military at the Nevada Test Site. So he's smart, highly educated, sane, and grounded. He's no airhead. :)

But he's also been a dowser for many years, and a good one, too. He hit a home run on this thread, started on 28 October, 2016:


And the winner is … (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94125-And-the-winner-is---)

... when he announced that his predictive dowsing of the results of the US Presidential election had changed, and the winner would now be Trump. He didn't even fully believe it himself, but he had the courage to log his forecast publicly. Kudos. :)

So, Warren has a pretty good track record. But what's REALLY worrying here is that for years now he's been 'told' through his dowsing that starting at the end of next year (2019), there will be catastrophic earth changes, involving almighty tsunami coastal inundation, the loss of some land areas, and the rising of new ones from the seabed.

He checks this regularly, hoping that just like his original prediction of Hillary as the new President, it would one day change. But it never has.

We meet regularly for coffee (we live about 25 miles apart), and discuss this each time. Warren tells me that he STILL 'gets' these huge flooding events. He does not know the mechanism, but it's something massive.

Hence the title of his thread above, about the population changes. MANY people would perish: if not immediately, in the months to come from disease, famine, infrastructure failure, civil unrest, and nuclear power station meltdowns (many of which are in coastal areas, like Fukushima).

It's sobering. And recently, too, Linda Howe has been reporting that she's been contacted by MANY people with dreams of huge waves. Here's the video (https://youtube.com/watch?v=RSygVnPtSmc): start at 07:50, for 10 minutes. She's even been in direct touch with Warren herself, at my introduction, and they talked for two hours about all this.

Everyone hopes this is all nonsense; but, we'll just have to wait and see. Pretty much a year to go, but Warren says there will be precursors (a major event in Hawaii is one of them — in May, if I remember right), that will be indicators of whether these end-2019 events are likely to manifest.

If there are no precursor events, then maybe we can all relax. But if something big does goes down in Hawaii early next summer.... then it might be an idea to head for the hills. Not a joke.

The best psychic I know also predicts these types of events will happen over the next decade, but says it won't be as catastrophic as people think, and will only affect the stock market temporarily. In the past she has said that the film industry will have to move to Phoenix and the music industry to Nashville, due to earth changes.

Tree Of Life
20th November 2018, 01:27
Classic deja' vu...
we have all been here before.

petra
20th November 2018, 12:46
Classic deja' vu...
we have all been here before.

I call that the "Oh, not this again" feeling :)

Seems like we're running out of questions!

Q: Bill, how are you doing over there? These questions taking any toll on you at all?

Bill Ryan
20th November 2018, 14:56
Q: Bill, how are you doing over there? These questions taking any toll on you at all?

Lots of fun. One or two of the questions have made me think. Thanks to everyone... I'm certainly on for a few hundred more. :)

Johan (Keyholder)
20th November 2018, 16:15
This thread reminds me of...the Kingdom of Tonga.

Until not so long ago, the king of Tonga (the heaviest king in the world at the time, literally) received his people in the garden of the royal palace.
They came to ask him questions, relating to all matters of life.

Maybe Bill, you may not be a king (coronated I mean) in this life, but the way you answer the questions, definitely make you a sort of "proverbial king".
So, you just may have been "King Arthur"...:bowing: in another lifetime.

And everyone visiting this court of Avalon, come here to find some wisdom and when possible, leave some wisdom behind as well.
There aren't many places like that. And something to be grateful for, for sure.

A few questions:

1) "Fear" has been mentioned in this thread, but I don't think that anyone has put the question to you whether you have any fears left yourself? And if so, what do you (still) personally fear?
I also think this would be an interesting question to ask anyone here on the forum.

2) When in Ladakh, have you also been in Zanskar? I believe it is nearby or part of Ladakh.

3) About Peter Moon. I have read a few of his books and find them very enlightening/interesting. Have you ever met, interviewed or heard of Radu Cinamar? This relates to the Sphinx in the Bucegi mountains.
It reads like SciFi, but when reading the books, it "feels" to me as if there is a lot more to it. In relation to this, have you ever met or interviewed David Anderson? If so, what do you think about him?

4) Have you ever heard of "Ormly Hall" on the Isle of Man? I had a very strange experience there, when visiting Ramsey (the town). I felt I should stay away from it (and I did).

5) Have you ever come across a "physical object" that could manifest a non-physical effect, no matter who the person holding it might be?

Thanks!

NX.P
20th November 2018, 16:56
How did you meet Dan B?

petra
20th November 2018, 17:42
Q: Bill, how are you doing over there? These questions taking any toll on you at all?

Lots of fun. One or two of the questions have made me think. Thanks to everyone... I'm certainly on for a few hundred more. :)

A few hundred?! I'm so surprised that I actually swore.

samildamach
20th November 2018, 18:47
Lol I have many questions but was giving bill a break,but if he has got his second wind, them game on.
Which of the psychic powers do you believe are real.
Which if any have you seen in action.
Do you have any you would like to share here.

scotslad
20th November 2018, 20:14
Hi Bill,

Been thinking…

a) Have you met, interviewed or got opinions of the experiences of…
Howard Menger, Frank E Stranges, Al Beliek, & Robert Taylor ?

b) Whats your thoughts on the Baltic sea Anomaly thought to be a 14,000 year old UFO?

oh, and 2 cases that appear to be definitely stumping thousands of internet researchers around the globe...

c) The Maddie McCann case – What do you think happened?

d) The Bridgend “Suicides” – Got an opinion on the case that’s stumped the police and experts for over 10 years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy21KKnk5eQ)

Thanks

sunwings
20th November 2018, 23:08
Do you believe in a Parallel world?

A Parallel world somehow linked to our world, as some whistle blowers have boldly claimed.

ashva
21st November 2018, 01:06
I am a long term meditator with significant experience of 'anomalous events'.

All my adult life I have had dreams and visions of flooding and inundation. They are simply too numerous to recount here. What I 'see' is not the product of slow, global warming induced sea level rise. Instead, what I 'see' is the product of sudden change. Whatever this event is, it is global in scope.

Like many, I feel this event is imminent.

As for the vision of the flooding of the American west coast : this corresponds perfectly to a vision Steven Greer reported in his book 'Forbidden Knowledge'. He recounts a lucid dream from his adolescence, where he saw a tsunami sweeping across the LA basin, 2 - 3 times larger than tallest building.

In this dream he saw what he would one day recognise as the Bonaventure centre. At time it was not yet built. From the dream he understood that the tsunami would be the result of '...enormous geophysical changes and environmental changes that were happening. and they led to some event that was sudden and catastrophic'. Notably, 'thousands' of ET craft would become involved in some sort of subsequent assistance effort.

Honesty
21st November 2018, 06:45
When do you believe [based on your research and experiences (and those of trusted colleagues)] that the Middle East will “run out of peace”?

Wow. Well, it's really like [relative!] peace in the area has been hanging on a thin, burning thread.

@ Everyone else: Honesty, who knows a lot of stuff, has been posting about the rise of tensions (maybe a euphemistic understatement) in the region for a while now. Do check out all his posts and started threads. The latest is this one.


Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104297-Hal-Turner-on-civil-war-in-Europe-a-strike-on-Syria-and-war-in-Israel)


Maybe I should rephrase the question - What do you believe will happen in the Middle East, and when?

Frenchy
21st November 2018, 18:52
Ed


What are your thoughts on that Bill, and have you encountered any convincing evidence regarding such a possibility?
Thank you.

No convincing evidence, per se. But I'm constantly reminded of Warren Light (wnlight (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019))'s thread, here


So, Warren has a pretty good track record. But what's REALLY worrying here is that for years now he's been 'told' through his dowsing that starting at the end of next year (2019), there will be catastrophic earth changes, involving almighty tsunami coastal inundation, the loss of some land areas, and the rising of new ones from the seabed.

Warren says there will be precursors (a major event in Hawaii is one of them — in May, if I remember right), that will be indicators of whether these end-2019 events are likely to manifest.

.. then it might be an idea to head for the hills. Not a joke.

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Sunny-side-up
22nd November 2018, 11:35
Hi Bill.

Not sure if already asked, sorry if it has.

Now I'm sure you would rush to aide an injured animal if you found one.

What would you do if you came across an injured Alien by the side of the road or hillside?
lets say you can tell it's civilised and dose not look to menacing.

What steps would you take to help it/him/her ?

What steps would you take if you found an alien ship or device?

Another question is:
What would you ask an alien if you could sit down for a one to one chat?

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 14:15
This thread reminds me of...the Kingdom of Tonga.

:)

1) "Fear" has been mentioned in this thread, but I don't think that anyone has put the question to you whether you have any fears left yourself? And if so, what do you (still) personally fear?





Well, I don't get frightened of things. With one exception, I can't remember any time when I could honestly say I was frightened. Anxious, maybe, but that's rather different! I'll share a recent anxiety story in a moment.

As many here know, I was abducted out of my tent in the Himalayas many years ago, claiming the world's altitude record for an abduction. :) (This was at about 20,000 ft, while camping on a glacier on a mountain called Makalu, in Nepal.) A whole complex string of events ensued after that, lasting years, that really could be the storyline of a movie.

The events were so knotted and complicated that it was a huge pretzel of a mind-bending brainteaser to make sense of every component of it. I had unanswered questions for many years. I finally got all the answers only a few months ago, in the third sequence of regressions that touched on all this.

In the first regression, a long time back, I recalled the abduction itself. When an ET stuck its head through my tent, and I was looking up at it from maybe 3 feet away, and I suddenly recalled that, I just about jumped right out of my chair through the ceiling. :bigsmile: And that was just the recall of the event, which is always muted compared with the shock of the original incident. I think it's fair to say that I felt fear. (Big time!)

To dilute that a little with a campfire story, this one is more fun to recount. The last time I felt anxious in a physical situation was back in 2015, when Mara (my :dog: ) and I took a silly shortcut in the mountains and ended up in an unreversible cul-de-sac where the only way out was up a very steep vegetation-filled gully full of loose rock. If we'd fallen, we'd have gone straight into a lake 200 ft below, and to get out we just had to climb higher and higher. No ropes, no-one else for miles around, and no-one knew where we were.

That was dumb. It was the only serious mistake I've made in the very remote mountains here. It was a roll of the dice, with very limited control.

The funny thing was that Mara was completely freaked out, and she was pretty much sitting on top of me as I was trying to climb out, like a small kid clinging on to its Dad for protection. That made it all much trickier, as I was not only carrying my backpack but also practically cradling a 50 lb dog AND clinging on to small tufts of grass trusting they'd bear our weight AND carefully dislodging loose rocks before they dislodged me. :facepalm: It all lasted about 15 mins, and I was quite glad to get to the top of the thing where it all eased off. (So was Mara. :) )

I also have a more serious response to the question. It's a modern taboo, a counterpart to the Victorian taboo — sex — when they'd comfortably talk about death all day and night. :) These days it tends to be the exact other way around.

I live alone here, in quite an isolated place, with almost no friends here, and no family anywhere. I do sometimes wonder what the future will bring. I'm in good shape, healthy and active. But then fast forward to 10 years' time, 20 years' time, 30 years' time. What happens then? I have no idea. That unknown is sometimes unsettling when I look at it.

2) When in Ladakh, have you also been in Zanskar? I believe it is nearby or part of Ladakh.




No. I know all about Zanskar, which is equally starkly beautiful and remote, and would love to visit it, or to have visited it.
3) About Peter Moon. I have read a few of his books and find them very enlightening/interesting. Have you ever met, interviewed or heard of Radu Cinamar? This relates to the Sphinx in the Bucegi mountains.
It reads like SciFi, but when reading the books, it "feels" to me as if there is a lot more to it. In relation to this, have you ever met or interviewed David Anderson? If so, what do you think about him?




I've never heard of Radu Cinamar, I'm afraid. I'll look that up, for sure. And re David Anderson, I've never met or corresponded, but I watched some interviews of his a few years back and, if I may say, his claims about time travel did not ring true or credible to me.
4) Have you ever heard of "Ormly Hall" on the Isle of Man? I had a very strange experience there, when visiting Ramsey (the town). I felt I should stay away from it (and I did).




No, sorry, I've never heard of it (or, actually, ever been to the Isle of Man).
5) Have you ever come across a "physical object" that could manifest a non-physical effect, no matter who the person holding it might be?




No, never. (These are all interesting questions, but I'm sorry I'm able to say much of value! :) )

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 14:29
How did you meet Dan Burisch?

I simply e-mailed him, citing an introduction from veteran researcher Bill Hamilton, who'd known him for several years and featured him in his book Project Aquarius. Kerry Cassidy and I were delighted and surprised when he responded immediately and said he and Marci were happy to meet. This raised the eyebrows of some other researchers back then, all of whom had been around for a while, and barely anyone had ever been able to get close to Dan. We were relative newcomers on the 'circuit'.

The experience was a significant one for me. Dan's story had caught my attention back in 2002, when Linda Howe had first written about him. Her account jumped right off the page at me, and glued itself firmly in my mind.

I was in the UK then, working a regular 'normal' job (as it were), but I clearly recall thinking: "Wow, I'd just love to meet this guy sometime". Folks, always be careful what you wish for. :)

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 14:53
Lol I have many questions but was giving bill a break,but if he has got his second wind, them game on.
Which of the psychic powers do you believe are real?




All of them. :)
Which if any have you seen in action? Do you have any you would like to share here?




Telepathy/remote perception (countless times, sometimes astonishingly accurately), time-looping (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105066-EXPERIENCERS-Sharing-Exploring-and-Learning-Together&p=1260684&viewfull=1#post1260684), in which I recount a remarkable personal experience), and once (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105066-EXPERIENCERS-Sharing-Exploring-and-Learning-Together&p=1259844&highlight=kathy#post1259844)) where my old ton-and-a-half 4x4 started to move, rapidly, all on its own — a genuine case of spontaneous psychokinesis. (And a very dramatic one, too.)

Three times, a very psychically gifted close friend of mine in the US came to 'visit' me in Ecuador, bilocating. I could sense it clearly when she was here, and later double-checked the time with her. :) That was also very memorable, the only instances I've experienced or witnessed that so crystal clearly.

This realm (of psi abilities) is so self-evident to me that I no longer dwell on incidences that a lot of people would think of as unbelievable. The most recent 'normal' example was just a couple of weeks ago when I woke up one night with a clear certainty that something significant had just happened in the life of a friend of mine on the other side of the world.

I switched my light on and checked the time, and nearly got up there and then to send a message asking if everything was okay. The next day, though, I did check in, and sure enough right at that very moment they'd been presented with a significant personal opportunity. Things like that are always fun. :)

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 15:13
Hi Bill,

Been thinking…

a) Have you met, interviewed or got opinions of the experiences of…
Howard Menger, Frank E Stranges, Al Bielek, & Robert Taylor ?




Menger was a fraud (I firmly believe).
Stranges' story remains interesting. He wrote Stranger at the Pentagon, the story of Valiant Thor. (Bad name, btw: sounds like a Marvel Comics character. :) ) Some of it is hard to believe, but it's not impossible that human-looking ETs (though not from Venus!) "could be walking up and down the corridors of SHAPE headquarters or the Pentagon or the White House", as Bob Dean stated (http://www.projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bob_dean_interview_transcript_1_en.html).
Al Bielek: I'm skeptical.
Robert Taylor: I'm afraid I don't know, or don't recognize, who that is.

b) What's your thoughts on the 'Baltic Sea anomaly', thought to be a 14,000 year old UFO?



Well, it seems to me that it could fairly easily be a rock formation. Some of the images on the net have clearly been embellished (or just plain fabricated). The idea that it appears like Han Solo's Millennium Falcon is engaging, but a real UFO wouldn't actually look like that!
c) The Maddie McCann case – What do you think happened?



I'm not really up to speed with the intricacies of the case. Like a number of others, I suspect Satanic Ritual Abuse (I'm afraid), which is widespread and far more prevalent that anyone wants or likes to think. I'm sure the parents are totally innocent.
d) The Bridgend “Suicides” – Got an opinion on the case that’s stumped the police and experts for over 10 years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy21KKnk5eQ)




My apologies... this is another case which I confess I know nothing about.

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 15:19
Do you believe in a Parallel world?

A Parallel world somehow linked to our world, as some whistle blowers have boldly claimed.

Well, it depends what the term means. Not the 'Two Earths' thing, which I'd firmly contend is very silly. (And as best I know, no real 'whistleblower' has ever talked of such a thing.)

But parallel universes as in timeline splits, leading to 'Sliding Doors' type parallel realities: Yes, 100% for sure. :thumbsup:

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 16:25
When do you believe [based on your research and experiences (and those of trusted colleagues)] that the Middle East will “run out of peace”?

Wow. Well, it's really like [relative!] peace in the area has been hanging on a thin, burning thread.

@ Everyone else: Honesty, who knows a lot of stuff, has been posting about the rise of tensions (maybe a euphemistic understatement) in the region for a while now. Do check out all his posts and started threads. The latest is this one.



Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104297-Hal-Turner-on-civil-war-in-Europe-a-strike-on-Syria-and-war-in-Israel)



Maybe I should rephrase the question - What do you believe will happen in the Middle East, and when?

Thanks for the rephrase. I understand why! All I can really say, I think (and genuine apologies if this seems pretty thin) is


It's hard to come by accurate or detailed information. I get the sense, and I'm sure you do too, that quite a lot is being censored/redacted from the mainstream reports. It feels like anything might happen at any time, and most people would be pretty much ambushed by it.
Much as I confessedly respect and appreciate Alex Jones, he's never going to report the detailed facts of Israeli agendas. That just something always to be remembered and borne in mind. Listening to him talk about Israel, one has to install that compensation filter every time.
I personally don't trust a single thing the state of Israel does or says or publishes in any media.

scotslad
22nd November 2018, 16:47
Thanks Squire

re Robert Taylor story is here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bbCTEW59GI (scottish ufo story)

A very thought provoking documentary by Richard D Hall re maddie mccann - some startling "alternate" fact filled revelations, astounding proven contradictory evidence & investigations here - well worth the watch in your favourite comfy chair & large gin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjPcvmVzUo

regards

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 17:01
Hi Bill.

Not sure if already asked, sorry if it has.

Now I'm sure you would rush to aide an injured animal if you found one.
What would you do if you came across an injured Alien by the side of the road or hillside?
lets say you can tell it's civilised and dose not look to menacing.
What steps would you take to help it/him/her ?





What a fun question. Assuming it was small :) (and nearby!) — I'd carry it home. Depending on its condition, I'd NOT report it to any authorities for medical treatment. I would give it Rescue Remedy, even applied directly to its skin. (With zero evidence available to suggest it might work on ETs, I do still suspect it would.)

I'd communicate telepathically, and I'd be confident I could do that well. I'd ask IT what it wanted or needed. I'd not do a thing without its permission, including taking its photo.

My guess is that any ETs would (or should) easily be able to rescue/extract their own any time they wanted to. If they can walk through a wall to lift a human out of their bed at night, they can certainly evacuate an ET buddy. And maybe that's just what would happen. (But note: this does beg the interesting question, of course, why the ETs didn't rescue their own in the many recorded instances of crash retrievals in which ETs were injured, but alive.)

I'd then start communicating privately with all the healers and researchers I knew and trusted, and take it all from there.

What steps would you take if you found an alien ship or device?





Assuming there were no ETs around, I'd document it in every fine detail on video and still photography. I'd be the best careful scientist I could be.

An interesting story. I did know someone (a very good mountaineering friend) who told me in detail how he had been descending a mountain on his own, and had fallen into a crevasse. Under normal circumstances, that'd be the end of it all. No way out, and likely death in store from hypothermia or worse.

But he suddenly found himself teleported OUT of the crevasse, and there were two ET beings there, very much human in form. He said they communicated with him telepathically, and they had a spherical object, about 10" in diameter, that they wanted him to take. But he said he 'knew' that it wasn't right for him to accept the gift, and so he didn't. OMG. :)

Unprovable, of course, as almost all of these experiencer accounts are. But I can corroborate it myself, at least in some small part. I was also on the same mountain (this was Makalu, significantly the day after my abduction: see my post #399 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260747&viewfull=1#post1260747)). When I descended the mountain myself, also on my own, I came upon my friend, also descending — and of course I was surprised and delighted to see him.

It was only a long time later that I realized that he was in totally the wrong place at the wrong time, almost as if he'd been unaccountably waylaid for 24 hours. At the time, inexplicably, I never noticed this, and he never remarked on it either. It was only a couple of years later that he told me what had happened to him — after the ET had appeared in my room. I started to tell him THAT story... and he told me he already knew. (I did post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260747&viewfull=1#post1260747) that the entire very long storyline was extremely complicated. :) )

What would you ask an alien if you could sit down for a one to one chat?




Well, here are some obvious bulletpoint questions!


What are you doing here?
How did you get here?
Do you come from another planet in our galaxy, or from another 'dimension'?
What's your race's history of contact with the human race?
Is your race in formal ongoing contact with any human authorities, agencies, or governments?
Are there other races that are also 'here? Assuming so, what is their purpose or agenda?
Is there knowledge or information about the human race — or the human race's past or future — that you're not allowed to convey? If so, why? How are those decisions made? Under what circumstances would you share more than is normally permitted?
Is there knowledge or information about the universe, or about humans' perception of what physical reality is, that you're not allowed to convey? If so, why? How are those decisions made? Under what circumstances would you share more than is normally permitted?
If you CAN talk about the actual nature of the universe in some detail, what can you help me understand that you think is within my capability?
Why have you contacted me, in particular, right now?

NX.P
22nd November 2018, 17:07
What is your response to proponents of the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge) as proof that psychic powers don't exist?

Wansen
22nd November 2018, 17:15
Deleted Post.

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 17:21
What is your response to proponents of the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge) as proof that psychic powers don't exist?

I think the problem is always that of easy repeatability under laboratory conditions. Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ have described how frustrating it was for them back during the SRI research of the 1970s when Uri Geller, practically out of control (their words, as best I recall!), was doing all kinds of wild psychic things in coffee breaks, over dinner, and at every other time they were together. Then when they'd knuckle down to reproduce it all under highly controlled conditions, far less would often happen.

NOT because Uri was a fraud. (He wasn't.) But because the very nature of the phenomenon is very often spontaneous. Robert Jahn in his meticulous experiments in PEAR (the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab) accumulated a bunch of highly significant research data, but he quickly became aware that one of the obstacles in time-consuming, repetitive, routine tests was that of boredom. No matter how talented the research subjects were, or could be, once the experimentation became laborious, humdrum or monotonous, the anomalous results almost always dropped off very quickly.

I'd personally suspect that psychic demonstration is also inhibited by the presence of strong skepticism. Puthoff and Targ were NOT skeptical — at all. They were merely trying to be rigorous. But even a highly talented psychic in the presence of someone like James Randi might find themselves trying to do the equivalent of lighting a fire in the pouring rain. It might not be at all easy, pleasant, or practicable in any form.

Bill Ryan
22nd November 2018, 17:25
Bill,

This is so very good of you, I’m enjoying reading this immensely.

I would be appreciative (again) if you would share your thoughts on Bill Hamilton.

Unbelievably, I only came upon him recently and I must admit I found his (somewhat) aggressive tones (during a lecture) most refreshing.

I had the highest respect for him. He was a veteran researcher, one of the best, and did a bunch of very important work. In my opinion, his integrity was impeccable. We overlapped just a little, and Camelot's interview with him was actually our very first.


http://projectcamelot.org/bill_hamilton.html

James
22nd November 2018, 17:28
Hi Bill -

Do you believe we, Homo sapiens sapiens, have undergone a domestication, of sorts, and if so, do you believe it to have been done by our own hands, the hands of someone/thing else, or an unpleasant combination of both?

Michi
23rd November 2018, 10:40
Hi Bill
Got another question for you:
What's your take on ho-oponopono?
Does taking 100% responsibility for (of course for oneself) but also others is some way of clearing and would this be the key to full recovery as a being?

Thanks for your awesome thread!

Bill Ryan
23rd November 2018, 11:13
Hi Bill -

Do you believe we, Homo sapiens sapiens, have undergone a domestication, of sorts, and if so, do you believe it to have been done by our own hands, the hands of someone/thing else, or an unpleasant combination of both?

Hey thanks for the question, and a very warm welcome to the forum. :sun: (Do PM me!)

'Domestication' seems like an unusual word. If you mean like domesticated farm animals — groomed, bred and cultured to be fit for [some] purpose — then I can understand the question. :)

It seems it has to be possible. But first, I should say that regarding Zecharia Sitchin's claims that humans were bio-modified to be gold mining slaves (or something like that!), I don't buy his narrative about most things. Important to know about Sitchin is that he did NOT translate from the original Sumerian academically and rigorously (as his chief critic Michael Heiser always maintains, and correctly, too).

Sitchin used 'intuitive guidance' (or, to put it crudely, channeled instruction) whenever he came across something that was difficult or ambiguous to interpret. That definitely suggests that it's likely that some of what he wrote was disinformation from the Anunnaki themselves (whoever they are). It's an unusual view, but I'd argue that quite strongly.

But if mankind is someone's science experiment, and it might be, there's every reason to suppose that there may have been experimental modification. And that modification might have been simply to improve/enhance the genome for altruistic (or purely science-experiment) purposes — OR, it might have been to suit some agenda.

Re the latter, the most extreme hypothesis (but maybe it can't be totally ruled out) is that the present human genome is a highly valuable emergency resource for time-traveling future humans, urgently intent on repairing their damaged future genome.

Linda Howe, considering the Dec 1980 Bentwaters incident, as well as a few others, has argued that this may be the case. (This of course had also been claimed by Dan Burisch.) That then opens up the Sci-Fi possibility that the time travelers themselves may have 'farmed' the human genome, over long periods in the past, so as to be a valuable resource for them later.

I don't know if anyone else has ever pointed out that this might conceivably be what's happened... but if so, I've never heard of it. :)

Bill Ryan
23rd November 2018, 11:21
Hi Bill
Got another question for you:
What's your take on ho-oponopono?
Does taking 100% responsibility for (of course for oneself) but also others is some way of clearing and would this be the key to full recovery as a being?

Thanks for your awesome thread!

I do believe that it can work powerfully, yes. The secret, of course, is that it has to be sincere. It's not like a magic spell, and all one has to to is to utter the words correctly. :)

The words, like a mantra, are merely a focusing tool for one's powerful, spiritual [and again, sincere] intention. There's nothing automatic — or necessarily easy! — about it.

Antagenet
23rd November 2018, 15:53
Thanks for making yourself available for us to "interview" you with questions, Bill.
I have many areas of questions, so here goes!

1. Do you think A.I. will supplant human control of the planet? Has it already? Do you think there will be a merging of human consciousness with technology so that human bodies may become unnecessary in the future? Will A.I. choose to keep humans around or want to exterminate us? Is or would there be something or someone superior to or in control of A.I that are not human?

2. What do you suspect is the purpose of 5G? Do you think it is a program of genocide, or mind control, or just ignorant greed? Would you prefer to live in a place which won't have 5G? is there such a place? Where?

3. Are you concerned about the diminishing numbers of white people around the world?

4. If you ever left Equador, what other country would you want to live in and why? Have you ever considered living in Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu, Cook Islands, Bali, Philippines? Malaysia?

5. If the emotional maturity of the majority of human beings was ever high enough to actually make a pure economic system work without greed or malice taking over, would you prefer a free market capitalism, a libertarian anarchy? socialism, or something else? Have you ever read Gadaffis green book? https://archive.org/details/TheGreenBook

6. What is your I.Q? Does I.Q. matter in terms of human evolution? Do you see any correlation between I.Q and political movements or outcomes? Is it easier to become emotionally mature when one has a high I.Q? Are there more dangers? Any comments or observations about I.Q I haven't mentioned?

7. Are you versed in the ideas of George Gurdjieff sufficient to comment on which of his ideas you like/don't like, believe in or not? Do you think it is possible some people develop to a point of immortality and others "die like dogs" and have squandered their chance to develop a viable soul? Do you study, like or ever use the enneagram as a system of understanding personality development? Have you located yourself on the enneagram wheel?

8. Astrology. Fact, fiction, myth, or science?

9. Should sociopaths (predators without consciences) be removed and isolated from the rest of us, say on some remote island, like lepers?

10. Do you believe there is either a before-life or afterlife? Do you believe near death experiences as being true or an elaborate psyop? How do you choose what to believe in? Is it necessary to believe in anything? Do you prefer questions or answers?

Thanks so much for opening up and letting us get to know you and providing teaching in this way.

avatar
23rd November 2018, 19:08
In Whitley Strieber's book "The Key" he talks about our souls as plasma bodies, and how Hiroshima really messed up some people's souls.
He also says there is a science of the soul. As a physics major do you understand what he is referring to? Can you elaborate?

christian
23rd November 2018, 21:11
Do you believe in a Parallel world?

A Parallel world somehow linked to our world, as some whistle blowers have boldly claimed.

Well, it depends what the term means. Not the 'Two Earths' thing, which I'd firmly contend is very silly. (And as best I know, no real 'whistleblower' has ever talked of such a thing.)

When I hear this, I think of the world of ghosts, gnomes, fairies and archons. Who many intuitives say live basically on this planet just as humans do, yet in another frequency range in the non-physical, so most humans are not aware of them, yet everybody potentially experiences interference from them and could learn to perceive them.

So the "two worlds" would basically be about a) what is known and b) all the frequencies of existence that are right where we are, yet not discovered and quantified by mainstream science.

Rawhide68
23rd November 2018, 21:36
As our dear Founder, proves himself potent of answering an endlass stream of Q
I want to send him a song to relax a mom

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Bill Ryan
23rd November 2018, 22:47
Thanks for making yourself available for us to "interview" you with questions, Bill.
I have many areas of questions, so here goes!
Thanks so much for opening up and letting us get to know you and providing teaching in this way.

And, what questions. :sun:

1. Do you think A.I. will supplant human control of the planet? Has it already? Do you think there will be a merging of human consciousness with technology so that human bodies may become unnecessary in the future? Will A.I. choose to keep humans around or want to exterminate us? Is or would there be something or someone superior to or in control of A.I that are not human?




As best I know, A.I. is already deployed to 'wargame' complex cultural and societal scenarios, like a giant chess computer program — using very advanced predictive software to forecast the probable outcomes of various major changes that might be introduced at a governmental or global level.

Dr Bill Deagle in his seminal December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture — 12 years ago now!! — talked about exactly this, in quite some detail. He stated that he'd visited one such facility, a giant Cray 5 machine deep underground in Colorado, below Schriever (formerly Falcon) Air Force Base.

He stated that there was a 'virtual world' program that was a digital equivalent of the real world — with each person, their communications, financial transactions, travel history, purchases, internet viewing history, predilections, preferences and personality, and every sizeable physical object — already programmed in as a digital representation. This was used to model how individuals (and large cultural groups, such as nations) would respond to major new initiatives.

It seems to me that this clearly dovetails directly into the apparently inevitable roll-out of the 5G network... whether this is in 2 years' time or 20, it's coming. More on that below.

But I'm not at all convinced we'll merge with or be absorbed by the machines, in some 'Terminator' way. My main source of guidance here is what I'm convinced are countless highly credible reports of the nature of intelligent ET beings, that do NOT appear to be robots. :) They may have been genetically enhanced in various ways, or even (in some cases) cloned. But they still appear to be flesh-and-blood beings. (Or something like that!)

The craft — even if they are themselves intelligent (and I believe there's a case to be made for that) — still have beings traveling in them. It's really hard to tell much for sure, of course, but this all does seem to me to suggest that in some future technologically advanced world, there will be ways for intelligent biological beings to co-exist with artificial intelligence, and presumably keep it under control.

2. What do you suspect is the purpose of 5G? Do you think it is a program of genocide, or mind control, or just ignorant greed? Would you prefer to live in a place which won't have 5G? is there such a place? Where?




I was asked about 5G before, and I simply said (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1258662&viewfull=1#post1258662) it was a massive threat. But I should maybe expand on that.

Referring back to Dr Bill Deagle's Granada Forum lecture again, he referred — again, 12 years ago — to what he called the Electronic Cage. That was a play on words, referring to the much-toted 'Electronic Age'. This is exactly what happening.

It's less of a cage than a giant invisible net, and 5G simply makes the mesh much more fine-weave. It literally captures us.

And we only have ourselves to blame. How many of you reading this right now are doing so on your smartphones? :)

We're addicts. Unable to break free. And like all addicts, we justify and rationalize our addiction. So it's VERY easy for the large corporations, in league with governments, to introduce 5G, selling it to us as a huge life-changing advantage. It's a really easy sell.

I mean: we'll be able to download a 2 hour movie in 3 seconds. And not have to wait the eternity of 20 minutes.

That's just the bait on the hook, or the sugar-coating on the poison.

The threat of 5G is threefold:


Health risks, at present still being researched, from very high-frequency-all-penetrating radiation in a really tight net all around us.
Our quality of life will not be enhanced by super-high internet and cellphone data speeds. It'll be reduced. (But most people may not ever know that.)
The collection of personal data about every one of us will be complete. The A.I supercomputers will know FAR more about us than we know about ourselves.

Where to escape or avoid it? Well, here in Ecuador it may arrive many years later then it does in New York or London or Sydney. And even so, one has certain choices, as I suggested above: how or whether at all to use mobile devices, for instance, whether to use WiFi in one's home (rather than an ethernet cable to a desktop computer), whether to turn WiFi off completely at night, and whether to (eventually) buy household appliances, like smart fridges, or new cars, that will bind us tighter and more inextricably into the global fine-weave control and data-gathering net.

We really do have more options available to us than we may sometimes feel we have. For instance, I have an old vehicle, with no engine management system, that could never be driven off the road, into a ditch or a tree, by satellite-directed interference. I've never used GPS in my life. I don't own a smartphone or tablet. I've once never used an iPhone apart from when I'm asked to take someone's photo. When I take photos myself, I use a regular camera.

I don't have WiFi in my bedroom at night — which is important. I also live in a tucked-away rural area where (at the moment!) there's no cellphone signal. But I totally realize that not everyone is in that position to easily choose: they may need to live in a city because of their careers, or their extended families.

Or maybe their spouses/partners think they're crazy for not wanting a wide-screen flat TV that's also capable of watching you. :) (That's not a joke!) I'm merely making the theoretical point, as gently as possible, that we may, still, each one of us, have a few more choices open to us than we may think we have.

3. Are you concerned about the diminishing numbers of white people around the world?




Yes, I am.

4. If you ever left Ecuador, what other country would you want to live in and why? Have you ever considered living in Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu, Cook Islands, Bali, Philippines? Malaysia?




No... but I've considered Thailand, which I've visited a number of times before and really felt very much at home in.

I love Switzerland, where I used to be for several years, but it's impossible to live there without either a LOT of money in the bank, or a significant income.

I've visited Australia (once) and South Africa (twice) both fairly briefly, and I very much loved both. South Africa is now genuinely a lot more dangerous for white people than it used to be, though; and it's VERY hard to get into Australia as an immigrant. (Despite being British! Sadly, that makes almost no difference now.)

5. If the emotional maturity of the majority of human beings was ever high enough to actually make a pure economic system work without greed or malice taking over, would you prefer a free market capitalism, a libertarian anarchy? socialism, or something else? Have you ever read Gadaffis green book? https://archive.org/details/TheGreenBook




What a great question. Without wanting to sound like a Marxist or a 1960s Hippie, I really do NOT like free market capitalism — or any of the sicknesses and blemishes it always brings with it. Marketing in the alternative media, for example. That's a really good example of cultural 'creep'. I personally think it's abhorrent, but all too many people are now so inoculated against it, this is now the new normal.

Even Richard Dolan thinks that cheap self-promotion is now just fine (after all, everyone else is doing it, and this is the financially seemingly well-grounded advice he's getting from his marketing adviser) — and that people should just 'deal with it'. That's a real shame.

Something is being lost here. It's a steady drip-feed erosion.

Here's what I feel is an important note to that. Greed and malice aren't black-white on-off factors... they're a sliding scale. For instance: is it 'greedy' to monetize YouTube videos and diminish the quality of the presentation with constant commercial interruptions? Or to pollute an interesting web page with advertisements of every kind? You decide. :)

6. What is your I.Q? Does I.Q. matter in terms of human evolution? Do you see any correlation between I.Q and political movements or outcomes? Is it easier to become emotionally mature when one has a high I.Q? Are there more dangers? Any comments or observations about I.Q I haven't mentioned?




163. (Measured quite a long time ago!)

One of the problems with [many, but not all] people of high intellect is that it's all too easy for them to construct elaborate inner self-justifications for just about anything. Having a high IQ does NOT mean that one will be fully aware of all the problems and anomalies of the world.

An example? Look at Bill Gates. He's very smart, but totally unaware. There are countless other similar examples. (Including David Wilcock.) Enough said. :)

Having a high IQ can be helpful sometimes. (So is having a musical ear, or being a good athlete!) But it's nothing (and may even be an impediment) without emotional intelligence (EQ) and spiritual intelligence (SQ). The three kinds of intelligence need to work together in synergistic combo.

If I were choosing a life partner, for me IQ (in the other person) would be FAR FAR FAR less important than EQ+SQ. It's the latter two that combine to make someone a very fine, beautiful, ethical human being.

7. Are you versed in the ideas of George Gurdjieff sufficient to comment on which of his ideas you like/don't like, believe in or not? Do you think it is possible some people develop to a point of immortality and others "die like dogs" and have squandered their chance to develop a viable soul? Do you study, like or ever use the enneagram as a system of understanding personality development? Have you located yourself on the enneagram wheel?




I confess, I really don't feel I know enough about Gurdjieff to comment properly. Re the enneagram, I also know comparatively little about it. I did locate myself on the wheel some time back, but the fact that I can't remember my type says something! (However — if it's of any compensation! — I am trained in Myers-Briggs/MBTI, and know that pretty well.)

8. Astrology. Fact, fiction, myth, or science?




It seems to work, at least sometimes! It's even been statistically shown to be (apparently) valid, in careful research done on personality typing vs. birth sign over large groups of people.

HOW it works, or can possibly work, I have absolutely not the tiniest clue. :)

9. Should sociopaths (predators without consciences) be removed and isolated from the rest of us, say on some remote island, like lepers?




Well, again (like the 'greed' thing: see #5 above) — it may really be more of a sliding scale. NOT so much like someone's got a certain identifiable genetic marker that defines that they're a sociopath.

There are likely to be upbringing/ parental/ societal/ environmental factors that then combine with any existing genetic predispositions. So to try to identify people who've not yet done anything antisocial, but simple MAY possibly do sometime, is a bit too much like 'Minority Report' (the Tom Cruise movie, after the Philip K. Dick short story) to feel comfortable for me.

10. Do you believe there is either a before-life or afterlife? Do you believe near death experiences as being true or an elaborate psyop? How do you choose what to believe in? Is it necessary to believe in anything? Do you prefer questions or answers?




Well, I don't 'believe'. But I do feel I know.

That's not a clever-clever, smart-ass answer. It's an important distinction. If one has recalled past lives in regression, one knows. Just like you (@anyone reading this) know what happened yesterday in your life. You know. You remember it clearly. It's not a matter of belief.

But of course, if someone's not had that experience, they have to do the next best available thing when considering the question: which is to consider others' testimony, and personal accounts. But that's NOT the same as experiencing it for oneself... of course. I completely understand that.

I've never personally had an NDE (a near-death experience). But having done what I suggested above — considered the reported experiences of many others — it aligns perfectly with everything I feel I know about the relationship of the spirit to the human body. So I feel highly confident — 100% confident, in fact — that NDEs are a reality.

This isn't a competition, in any way, but thank you for the far-reaching questions! (But yes, in general, I do prefer answers. :) )

avid
23rd November 2018, 23:02
It would be wonderful if you could come back to the Lake District, or even to home - the highest regions of the UK, but keep safe wherever you are :dog:

ashva
24th November 2018, 02:40
Hi Bill,


Can I ask you to expand a little on your above response to the question about declining numbers of white people?

Why do you think this relative and absolute decline is particularly significant?

Baby Steps
24th November 2018, 10:27
Hi,

- Would you say that greater access to past life memories would assist humanity?

- Would it serve those trying to limit or control us to block these?

- Alternatively, is working on this simply a spiritual challenge/opportunity , and part of our chance to improve this reality?

- Has human lifespan been artificially reduced?

- Would our unusual inability to synthesize vitamin C (unlike SOME other primates) be part of this?

Many thanks

Aviator
24th November 2018, 13:56
Hello Bill,

Did you read or hear about this book: Thalus of Athos – Disclosure: An eyewitness report about a civilization inside the Earth – From the diary of a mystical order adept

https://www.amazon.com/Thalus-Athos-Disclosure-eyewitness-civilization-ebook/dp/B01ELIHET6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543065049&sr=8-1&keywords=thalus+von+athos

The German guy was a member of MOHLA (Mystical Order of Aton’s Hermetic Teachings). After he dissolved the more that 3000 years old MOHLA, and made lot of their confidential knowledge accessible to the public, he died about 10 years ago.

He and some other guys from his “Wisdom Order” claimed to have, over many years, physical contact with people from Inner Earth civilizations. Very authentic and believable.

The book gives a new perspective about history and actual situation here on planet earth. Recommended for everybody who wants to understand the big picture.

Somebody wrote in a review (I could not say it better):
Great book! Super intense and definitely worth reading it. After you read it you will have to question everything you thought to know. The book will give you a different point of view how you can see the world we are living in. It helps you to get independent again and to start to find your own truth by asking questions!

Unfortunately there is only one book from him available in English now. (7 Books are available in German).

Frenchy
24th November 2018, 14:25
8. Astrology. Fact, fiction, myth, or science?[/B][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]
It seems to work, at least sometimes! It's even been statistically shown to be (apparently) valid, in careful research done on personality typing vs. birth sign over large groups of people.

HOW it works, or can [I]possibly work, I have absolutely not the tiniest clue. :)



In respect of 8. above, ( whatever form our 'Terra ' is ! );
Does not Santos Bonacci make a good case for the various Mineral deficiencies / Abundance, in Terrestial Humans ?
( According to the Cosmic influence at the time of their Birth Season... )

BTW, post 419 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260924&viewfull=1#post1260924) might well go down as being one of the finest examples of your lucidity of thought, Brotherly love to you mate !

TomKat
24th November 2018, 17:29
8. Astrology. Fact, fiction, myth, or science?[/B][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]
It seems to work, at least sometimes! It's even been statistically shown to be (apparently) valid, in careful research done on personality typing vs. birth sign over large groups of people.

HOW it works, or can [I]possibly work, I have absolutely not the tiniest clue. :)



In respect of 8. above, ( whatever form our 'Terra ' is ! );
Does not Santos Bonacci make a good case for the various Mineral deficiencies / Abundance, in Terrestial Humans ?
( According to the Cosmic influence at the time of their Birth Season... )

BTW, post 419 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260924&viewfull=1#post1260924) might well go down as being one of the finest examples of your lucidity of thought, Brotherly love to you mate !

Mineral deficiencies by birth season? That's absurd. There are Leos born in the summer and Leos born in the winter depending on hemisphere! But they are all Leos by personality type.

ashva
25th November 2018, 12:18
If I can add to the previous : what do you think of Whitley Strieber?

Do you find him wholly credible?

onawah
26th November 2018, 19:08
Hi Bill,
Something I wonder about, and wonder if you have any thoughts on:
When an inhabited planet suffers some kind of cataclysm(s), and millions suddenly die, and there are not enough new bodies (infants) to go around to provide for everyone's next round of incarnations, what happens to those souls without bodies?
Do they remain in some kind of stasis/limbo, or consciously inhabit the immaterial realms until enough new bodies are available to incarnate into, or incarnate on other worlds where there are already bodies available?
It seems like this must be a real dilemma, since apparently as individual souls, we "sign on" to incarnate for an extended period of time in material bodies on each planet that we inhabit, and moving around frequently from planet to planet is not common practice, as it may take many lifetimes before a soul becomes familiarized enough with a new planet's culture to be able to thrive there.
Thank you.

Fansongecho
26th November 2018, 21:02
Hi Bill,
I really enjoyed watching the Camelot interview with Brian O'Leary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3cBOq5-nZw
It was really sad news to hear of his passing, and I am wondering if he mentioned things that you folks didn't record that you may be able to share with us please?

Also, can I kindly ask what 3 esoteric subjects would you investigate if you could only research 3 (out of the many on this webpage)?

Also, what are your thoughts about the S4 Black Seal testimony that Bob Dean (Rest In Peace and bless him) and Wendelle C. Stevens (again rest in peace and bless him)
documented and posted on YT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TfAWjlTQPs&t=1025s

And finally, do you think that Tom Delong is being used ?? and will anything come of his latest adventure?

Kind regards,

Fansongecho

charlesfrith
26th November 2018, 21:25
I believe that Charles Hall was lonely and wrote science fiction weaving himself into the work. He kind of admits this in interviews.

Bassplayer1
27th November 2018, 03:10
Hi Bill,

Once again thank you for your openness and generosity in sharing your honesty, thoughts and feelings with us, I really appreciate it.

In an earlier question here, you talked about your enjoyment of music - particularly late 60s/70s rock - Crosby, Stills and Nash, Floyd, Hendrix, Zeppelin (with a bit of Prog thrown in if I recall) etc. I personally think this was a magic time for music enthusiasts and as a musician myself, I'm envious of the stories about how many of these bands were paid an advance to go in to the studio and quite often experiment! Anyway, if I could wave a magic wand, which of these artists/bands would you pay to see today, or accept a ticket as a gift? (Bearing in mind the ridiculous high prices and the soulless corporate stadiums where you can't even have a decent beer these days lol). Also, how many of these artists do you feel still remain pretty much themselves in terms of their integrity and values etc. There are many hugely successful musicians that are household names that somehow feel a bit weird when you watch them being interviewed today - it's as if something is missing and they are not quite themselves anymore.

Are there any that you'd be up for spending a weekend with interviewing them?

As a side thought here, thinking about Crosby, Stills and Nash reminds me of Joni Mitchell who I adore - especially her 70s jazz oriented stuff - what an accomplished guitarist she became!!! Anyway, I've read her biography and watched her interviews and she seems to be someone who has stood her ground in many ways against the industry, and I don't wish to sound like I'm fanning the flames of conspiracy here, but she has said that she has Morgelons disease. Do you also think there's anything weird going on in say, for example, her illness, John Lennon's death and the message he was trying to spread, or Bob Marley and his message and the unusual situation of cancer of the toe - just to name a few examples?

How many of the musicians you've loved over the years would you definitely want to see, not just out of enjoyment but also because you feel they have grown and kept a part of them selves untouched by the industry?

Sorry for the long winded muddle here ... blame it on the cheeky craft beer I'm enjoying as I type ;-)

Mike
27th November 2018, 04:08
Hi Bill, many thanks for tirelessly answering all these questions!:highfive:

i have a few more:

1) Have you ever been so frustrated with something that you considered walking away from the forum for good? If so, what was that something? And how did you resolve it?

2) This question is a bit cliche, but if you could sit and have dinner with, say, any 5 people on the planet, who would they be?

3) Have you ever been physically attacked since beginning this 'conspiracy' research?

4) You mentioned Pete Peterson as a totally unreliable "whistleblower" in retrospect....are there any others that you interviewed in the Camelot days that you now regard in a similar way?

5) How did you get involved with Serpo?

6) Are you still in touch with your climber mate..the very small one who was with you during your abduction experience? If so , what is he up to these days?

7) have you ever heard from your very small girlfriend from the same time? the one that left after saying her purpose in your life was finished?

Thx.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 13:26
Hi Bill,

Can I ask you to expand a little on your above response (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260924&viewfull=1#post1260924) to the question about declining numbers of white people?

Why do you think this relative and absolute decline is particularly significant?

Well, it's not a racist comment. :) But it is a comment about what seems to me to be a crystal clear agenda by the globalists to irreversibly wreck the cultural traditions of Europe and also North America.

In order to do that, they have do disempower, sideline, and create a cultural meme of criticism of 'white' people. And, also, if they can, reduce their numbers.

What we're starting to see is inverse racism. In the last few hundred years, white people have always been the 'racists' (with a great deal of historical accuracy to that statement). Now, like a reversed black-and-white image, it's all starting to be the other way round.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 13:51
Hi,

- Would you say that greater access to past life memories would assist humanity?

- Would it serve those trying to limit or control us to block these?

- Alternatively, is working on this simply a spiritual challenge/opportunity , and part of our chance to improve this reality?

- Has human lifespan been artificially reduced?

- Would our unusual inability to synthesize vitamin C (unlike SOME other primates) be part of this?

Many thanks

If we all had 100% recall of our past lives, the entire world would be so totally different it'd be hard to describe the vast gulf between what it would be, and what it is now.

The exact analogy is as if the entire world had amnesia, and couldn't remember last week, or any time prior. We'd only have paper or computer records of what happened last month. We'd not remember a thing personally.

That then makes us all vulnerable to manipulation, as if we were innocent babies with no life experience. And as is often so rightly said, if we don't know or understand history, we're destined to repeat our mistakes.

We do know a little bit of history.... but it's not memory. It's just a bunch of fragmented records, definitely inaccurate or incomplete, mostly accessible to just a tiny number of relative specialists. (Which regular people in the street know a bunch of history? Many know almost none at all. :) )

After we go back just a few hundred years, it's VERY incomplete. A few thousand, and little is there. Ten thousand (only ten thousand!), and there's nothing at all. Through having the amnesia that we have (Graham Hancock: "We're a race with amnesia"), we're all hugely compromised as a result.

~~~

No, human lifespan is longer now that it ever used to be. That's mainly due to the eradication of diseases like smallpox, the significant lowering of infant mortality, the ability to operate surgically on just about anything, and reliable ways to cure infection (diseases and wounds) that would have been killers just a few hundred years ago.

A broken leg is a painful major hassle, but it's 100% fully fixable within months. Just a few hundred years ago, it might have been a death sentence.

The BIG problem, of course, is that now there's a top-heavy population of surviving elderly people, with associated endemic disabilities such as Alzheimer's — and the gradual dissolution of the traditional nuclear family to support them. A longer lifespan (for some) is not always a blessing.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 13:56
Did you read or hear about this book: Thalus of Athos – Disclosure: An eyewitness report about a civilization inside the Earth – From the diary of a mystical order adept

https://amazon.com/Thalus-Athos-Disclosure-eyewitness-civilization-ebook/dp/B01ELIHET6 (https://www.amazon.com/Thalus-Athos-Disclosure-eyewitness-civilization-ebook/dp/B01ELIHET6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543065049&sr=8-1&keywords=thalus+von+athos)

No, I never have. But I'm 100% confident there's no 'civilization inside the Earth'.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 14:01
8. Astrology. Fact, fiction, myth, or science?[/B][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]
It seems to work, at least sometimes! It's even been statistically shown to be (apparently) valid, in careful research done on personality typing vs. birth sign over large groups of people.

HOW it works, or can [I]possibly work, I have absolutely not the tiniest clue. :)



In respect of 8. above, ( whatever form our 'Terra ' is ! );
Does not Santos Bonacci make a good case for the various Mineral deficiencies / Abundance, in Terrestial Humans ?
( According to the Cosmic influence at the time of their Birth Season... )

BTW, post 419 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260924&viewfull=1#post1260924) might well go down as being one of the finest examples of your lucidity of thought, Brotherly love to you mate !

Well, after Santos Bonacci came out as a Flat Earther (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv0F_4FpXRo), I'm a little less inclined to seriously consider anything he proposes! But many years ago, biologist Lyall Watson, in his very excellent before-their-time books Supernature (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Lyall%20Watson%20-%20Supernature.pdf) and also Lifetide, theorized that the effects on the human body from distant planetary bodies might be something to do with the body's high water content.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 14:07
What do you think of Whitley Strieber? Do you find him wholly credible?

I've never met or corresponded with him, but he does a pretty good radio show (http://unknowncountry.com), usually doesn't entertain cranks, and stands for a bunch of things that I do think are credible. I have no reason to doubt his personal claims of a number of very weird personal experiences, although some of those are certainly very weird indeed.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 14:18
Hi Bill,
Something I wonder about, and wonder if you have any thoughts on:
When an inhabited planet suffers some kind of cataclysm(s), and millions suddenly die, and there are not enough new bodies (infants) to go around to provide for everyone's next round of incarnations, what happens to those souls without bodies?
Do they remain in some kind of stasis/limbo, or consciously inhabit the immaterial realms until enough new bodies are available to incarnate into, or incarnate on other worlds where there are already bodies available?
It seems like this must be a real dilemma, since apparently as individual souls, we "sign on" to incarnate for an extended period of time in material bodies on each planet that we inhabit, and moving around frequently from planet to planet is not common practice, as it may take many lifetimes before a soul becomes familiarized enough with a new planet's culture to be able to thrive there.
Thank you.

Well, souls can always go off to any other planet to incarnate — if they choose to. They're not bound in some way to Planet Earth, apart from by their own desire to stay 'on home ground' and continue their own goals and purposes, which may be long-term, and very important to them.

But yes, it might well be difficult for a soul to make the decision to move on to take up a different kind of body on another planet, all of which may be very unfamiliar and where there may also not be anyone else they know, or have ever known.

There are many more souls than bodies anyway, and many of them do hang around watching — or 'playing games' (as it were: a loose term) on other non-physical levels. Remaining in close contact with old friends is always a major factor. It's a little like emigrating to the 'New World' on a one-way sailing ship a few hundred years ago. It took a lot of courage and commitment to make that no-return decision, though whole families might have traveled together. (Unlike that analogy, though, souls can always come back quite easily next time round if they feel they made a bad call.)

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 14:34
Hi Bill,
[ ...]
Kind regards,

Fansongecho

Hi there, and a warm welcome to the forum. :sun:

I really enjoyed watching the Camelot interview with Brian O'Leary - https://youtube.com/watch?v=c3cBOq5-nZw. It was really sad news to hear of his passing, and I am wondering if he mentioned things that you folks didn't record that you may be able to share with us please?





No, Brian O'Leary (who I was blessed to get to know really quite well) never shared anything privately that he didn't talk about publicly.

Can I kindly ask what 3 esoteric subjects would you investigate if you could only research 3 (out of the many on this webpage)?






Time travel.
The true history of planet Earth (both geologically, and also including the archontic influence that came in about 5,000 years ago).
The real lives of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.


What are your thoughts about the S4 Black Seal testimony that Bob Dean (Rest In Peace and bless him) and Wendelle C. Stevens (again rest in peace and bless him) documented and posted on YT - https://youtube.com/watch?v=4TfAWjlTQPs&t=1025s




I think it's very important and credible. There's nothing in there that negates or contradicts anything else we've come to know, including from genuine S4 whistleblowers like Bob Lazar. See this VERY interesting thread for more:


S4 (Area 51) Informers Vols 1-3: Connor O'Ryan, Steve Wilson, Bill Uhouse, Bob Lazar, with Wendelle Stevens, Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Vols-1-3-Connor-O-Ryan-Steve-Wilson-Bill-Uhouse-Bob-Lazar-with-Wendelle-Stevens-Bob-Dean)


Do you think that Tom DeLonge is being used ??




Definitely.

And will anything come of his latest adventure?




I'm now tending to think it'll all fizzle out. The agencies and/or military departments are NOT all behind this. As I posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89951-Tom-DeLonge-and-Sekret-Machines-Is-Disclosure-Going-Mainstream&p=1261083&viewfull=1#post1261083) a couple days ago:

~~~



John Greenewald concludes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1nhH34AGk), with very strong evidence, that there's something badly awry with Luis Elizondo. Many of us already knew that! But John G. finds several smoking guns that are really quite important.

Elizondo comes over every time like some kind of agency goon buffoon who's been pushed to the front to talk, but who knows embarrassingly little about UFO history. TTSA watchers are really beginning to realize that now.

Significant amongst all this is that Elizondo has refused to do an interview with John G. And John was simply offering, in a straight but supportive way, to help him clarify the confusing record. Elizondo refusing to do this speaks volumes.

In this excellent audio, John G. speculates right near the end that the New York Times and Washington Post may have not done any more on this because they themselves realized that the AATIP story was full of holes. So they may have just quietly dropped it all.

TTSA is going nowhere fast. John G. has shown that the releases do NOT have the support of the Pentagon in the way that many have assumed. That suggests to me internal agency conflict (which often happens). If that's the case, the whole thing will definitely become mired in deep mud. That looks to me to be what's happening now.

I'd bet half a cup of http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0807%20Coffee.gif that Hal Puthoff, Rich Dolan's (understandable!) prime reason for keeping faith in TTSA, may quietly step away. Sometime in the next 6 months. Let's see. If that happens, it'll be TTSA's death knell.

Bill Ryan
27th November 2018, 14:38
Hi Bill,

Once again thank you for your openness and generosity in sharing your honesty, thoughts and feelings with us, I really appreciate it.

In an earlier question here, you talked about your enjoyment of music - particularly late 60s/70s rock - Crosby, Stills and Nash, Floyd, Hendrix, Zeppelin (with a bit of Prog thrown in if I recall) etc. I personally think this was a magic time for music enthusiasts and as a musician myself, I'm envious of the stories about how many of these bands were paid an advance to go in to the studio and quite often experiment! Anyway, if I could wave a magic wand, which of these artists/bands would you pay to see today, or accept a ticket as a gift? (Bearing in mind the ridiculous high prices and the soulless corporate stadiums where you can't even have a decent beer these days lol). Also, how many of these artists do you feel still remain pretty much themselves in terms of their integrity and values etc. There are many hugely successful musicians that are household names that somehow feel a bit weird when you watch them being interviewed today - it's as if something is missing and they are not quite themselves anymore.

Are there any that you'd be up for spending a weekend with interviewing them?

As a side thought here, thinking about Crosby, Stills and Nash reminds me of Joni Mitchell who I adore - especially her 70s jazz oriented stuff - what an accomplished guitarist she became!!! Anyway, I've read her biography and watched her interviews and she seems to be someone who has stood her ground in many ways against the industry, and I don't wish to sound like I'm fanning the flames of conspiracy here, but she has said that she has Morgelons disease. Do you also think there's anything weird going on in say, for example, her illness, John Lennon's death and the message he was trying to spread, or Bob Marley and his message and the unusual situation of cancer of the toe - just to name a few examples?

How many of the musicians you've loved over the years would you definitely want to see, not just out of enjoyment but also because you feel they have grown and kept a part of them selves untouched by the industry?

Sorry for the long winded muddle here ... blame it on the cheeky craft beer I'm enjoying as I type ;-)

I have to say, I'd do quite a lot to see Ann and Nancy Wilson (Heart) perform an entire concert of Zeppelin numbers. And yes, they might possibly get back together next year.

They do Zep better than Zep, and Ann does Robert Plant better than Robert Plant. Sacrilege to some! But a case can be made. :) With the passing of Freddy Mercury, Ann Wilson, now 68 years old (impossible to believe!), has by far the strongest, most powerful and most evocative voice in rock. Her voice is just as it was when she started out 50 years ago. Maybe better.

And if I had a time machine, I'd want to be at the 2012 Kennedy Center Honors where Ann and Nancy, backed by Jason Bonham on drums, an orchestra, and two choirs, performed Stairway to Heaven, the greatest modern song ever recorded, in front of Plant, Jimmy Page, and John Paul Jones, and a packed audience of celebrities that included the president.

It was staggering, acclaimed final act of the night that famously brought tears to the eyes of Robert Plant. (And to mine, too. I can't watch that often enough. It was the greatest live performance of Stairway to Heaven ever done, including by Led Zeppelin themselves.)

Trivia here compared to much else on this thread, but here it is. It's something to witness. These things do matter. (And, note. ETs can't do this kind of thing. Only humans can.)


https://vimeo.com/104287711
I've enjoyed this reply so much (so far) that I'll pause here and come back to the rest later! :)

abmqa
27th November 2018, 15:28
Hi Bill,

Once again thank you for your openness and generosity in sharing your honesty, thoughts and feelings with us, I really appreciate it.

In an earlier question here, you talked about your enjoyment of music - particularly late 60s/70s rock - Crosby, Stills and Nash, Floyd, Hendrix, Zeppelin (with a bit of Prog thrown in if I recall) etc. I personally think this was a magic time for music enthusiasts and as a musician myself, I'm envious of the stories about how many of these bands were paid an advance to go in to the studio and quite often experiment! Anyway, if I could wave a magic wand, which of these artists/bands would you pay to see today, or accept a ticket as a gift? (Bearing in mind the ridiculous high prices and the soulless corporate stadiums where you can't even have a decent beer these days lol). Also, how many of these artists do you feel still remain pretty much themselves in terms of their integrity and values etc. There are many hugely successful musicians that are household names that somehow feel a bit weird when you watch them being interviewed today - it's as if something is missing and they are not quite themselves anymore.

Are there any that you'd be up for spending a weekend with interviewing them?

As a side thought here, thinking about Crosby, Stills and Nash reminds me of Joni Mitchell who I adore - especially her 70s jazz oriented stuff - what an accomplished guitarist she became!!! Anyway, I've read her biography and watched her interviews and she seems to be someone who has stood her ground in many ways against the industry, and I don't wish to sound like I'm fanning the flames of conspiracy here, but she has said that she has Morgelons disease. Do you also think there's anything weird going on in say, for example, her illness, John Lennon's death and the message he was trying to spread, or Bob Marley and his message and the unusual situation of cancer of the toe - just to name a few examples?

How many of the musicians you've loved over the years would you definitely want to see, not just out of enjoyment but also because you feel they have grown and kept a part of them selves untouched by the industry?

Sorry for the long winded muddle here ... blame it on the cheeky craft beer I'm enjoying as I type ;-)

I have to say, I'd do quite a lot to see Ann and Nancy Wilson (Heart) perform an entire concert of Zeppelin numbers. And yes, they might possibly get back together next year.

They do Zep better than Zep, and Ann does Robert Plant better than Robert Plant. Sacrilege to some! But a case can be made. :) With the passing of Freddy Mercury, Ann Wilson, now 68 years old (impossible to believe!), has by far the strongest, most powerful and most evocative voice in rock. Her voice is just as it was when she started out 50 years ago. Maybe better.

And if I had a time machine, I'd want to be at the 2012 Kennedy Center Honors where Ann and Nancy, backed by Jason Bonham on drums, an orchestra, and two choirs, performed Stairway to Heaven, the greatest modern song ever recorded, in front of Plant, Jimmy Page, and John Paul Jones, and a packed audience of celebrities that included the president.

It was staggering, acclaimed final act of the night that famously brought tears to the eyes of Robert Plant. (And to mine, too. I can't watch that often enough. It was the greatest live performance of Stairway to Heaven ever done, including by Led Zeppelin themselves.)

Trivia here compared to much else on this thread, but here it is. It's something to witness. These things do matter. (And, note. ETs can't do this kind of thing. Only humans can.)


https://vimeo.com/104287711
I've enjoyed this reply so much (so far) that I'll pause here and come back to the rest later! :)


Absolutely brilliant!! Thanks so much for sharing this! I'm a big fan of Heart but have never seen this. It's my new fave video:clapping:

As for ETs musical abilities, I can imagine a race of aliens, that have emotions, and natural musical abilities. Like below perhaps?

4MR6D7tL38U

What sounds good is so subjective to us humans.

Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

Bluegreen
27th November 2018, 16:49
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I'm interested in this question too Bill
From multiple sources on the races that have been reported on:
ETs' reaction to music is more one of 'amazement' than 'enjoyment'. If they 'like' anything, it would be what we would call soft rock (think the elevator scene in Star Wars).

Valerie Villars
27th November 2018, 20:00
I'm most interested in the above question, too. Music was some kind of doorway that opened up my life for visitation by e.t.'s. The questions about music seem to be the most important of all, in my mind.

scotslad
27th November 2018, 23:47
I seem to recall an X files episode about an alien who loved basedball and icecream (i think it was) whether it was based on any research - not sure, so in theory having a liking for earthly pleasures like music is potentially feasable ;)

Wansen
28th November 2018, 02:52
Deleted post.

petra
28th November 2018, 12:38
I'm most interested in the above question, too. Music was some kind of doorway that opened up my life for visitation by e.t.'s. The questions about music seem to be the most important of all, in my mind.

Seems a whole pile of us want to know Bill's guess! I loved the question about finding a little alien too. Rhetorical questions and impossible-to-answer questions are obviously not off limits! Music was/is some kind of doorway for me also. I imagine there's probably deaf aliens out there too, or some that would rather listen to silence (ha ha)

atzilut
28th November 2018, 12:57
Dear Bill -

What is your opinion of the Starchild skull and what do you think it might be?

Also, what is your opinion of the 3-fingered mummies? What do you think they might be?

Thank you for sharing an insight into who you are and what you believe with all of us.

Sunny-side-up
28th November 2018, 14:14
I think this question querying if aliens listen to music is very interesting, considering we are probable very low on the ability to hear scale of creatures.
Sound is a very pure form of energy which happens to be pleasing as well, either as single continuous notes or woven into complex music/spells.

I think what makes our music interesting and us with it, is our diverse emotional creative output.
That if anything is probably a big reason for visits, maybe something they have lost, emotions

So I think they listen to sounds/music in more forms and for more reasons than we actually do.

Bill Ryan
28th November 2018, 21:31
Also, how many of these artists do you feel still remain pretty much themselves in terms of their integrity and values etc. There are many hugely successful musicians that are household names that somehow feel a bit weird when you watch them being interviewed today - it's as if something is missing and they are not quite themselves anymore.

Are there any that you'd be up for spending a weekend with interviewing them?

As a side thought here, thinking about Crosby, Stills and Nash reminds me of Joni Mitchell who I adore - especially her 70s jazz oriented stuff - what an accomplished guitarist she became!!! Anyway, I've read her biography and watched her interviews and she seems to be someone who has stood her ground in many ways against the industry, and I don't wish to sound like I'm fanning the flames of conspiracy here, but she has said that she has Morgelons disease. Do you also think there's anything weird going on in say, for example, her illness, John Lennon's death and the message he was trying to spread, or Bob Marley and his message and the unusual situation of cancer of the toe - just to name a few examples?

Continuing to respond to the rest of this interesting multi-question. :thumbsup:

I've always also had a very high regard for Bob Geldof. I've also always had the feeling that Pete Townshend (formerly of The Who) always was and still is very authentic. But Roger Waters (formerly of Pink Floyd), as best I know most definitely is. I admire and respect him above all other modern songwriters.

This isn't an exclusive list! :)

Re John Lennon and Bob Marley, I do feel both their deaths were suspicious. Lennon's, absolutely. He was a wild card and a considerable potential threat to the establishment, and a great deal has been written about this.

Bill Ryan
28th November 2018, 21:57
Hi Bill, many thanks for tirelessly answering all these questions! :highfive:

I have a few more:

1) Have you ever been so frustrated with something that you considered walking away from the forum for good? If so, what was that something? And how did you resolve it?



No, I've never come remotely close. :sun:

2) This question is a bit cliché, but if you could sit and have dinner with, say, any 5 people on the planet, who would they be?





'Charles'.
Dan Burisch.
Christine Anderson (my former wife).
Hal Puthoff.
Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet.


3) Have you ever been physically attacked since beginning this 'conspiracy' research?



No, never.

4) You mentioned Pete Peterson as a totally unreliable "whistleblower" in retrospect....are there any others that you interviewed in the Camelot days that you now regard in a similar way?



No, not in the same way.

5) How did you get involved with Serpo?



I'd accidentally found myself on an e-mail list run by Victor Martinez, a Los Angeles English teacher and amateur UFO buff. I'd contacted him a few months earlier about something quite different, and he added me to his circulation list. At the time it contained a significant number of researchers, authors, speakers, and current and former military and intel people. Anyone who was anyone was there, over 150 well-known names. (Plus me, who no-one had ever heard of. :) )

The Serpo material was e-mailed anonymously to Victor for publication, in installments, and he streamed it all to his list. That was the entry point of the entire thing.

After a week or two, it was coming in thick and fast, and veteran researcher Bill Hamilton suggested to the list that someone should start archiving all this to a website. I held up my hand and volunteered. It was as simple as that.

6) Are you still in touch with your climber mate..the very small one who was with you during your abduction experience? If so , what is he up to these days?



No, I'm not. I've tried to find him a number of times, but he has a very common name and the search was always fruitless.

7) have you ever heard from your very small girlfriend from the same time? the one that left after saying her purpose in your life was finished?



I've never heard from her since. I knew the person she eventually married (he'd known me, too), and he does NOT have a common name. So back in 2010 I tracked him down, and wrote him a long, friendly e-mail in which I detailed all the extraordinary experiences I'd had with Angi — asking him if he ever knew about any of that (and, if those kinds of phenomena had continued with himself). He never replied.

Bill Ryan
28th November 2018, 22:06
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I very much doubt it! To make the point, we humans, in different cultures, don't even enjoy and understand each others' music.

A Maasai tribesperson in Kenya would be unlikely to understand or enjoy Punk Rock. (Or Beethoven!) And we're unlikely to understand or enjoy anything considered as music by a tribe in the Amazon jungle, or Aborigines still living in the Australian desert.

It's just SO culture-specific, wherever we are. (And also has been, throughout the ages, all over the world.)

Bill Ryan
28th November 2018, 22:14
Dear Bill -

Thank you for sharing an insight into who you are and what you believe with all of us.

What is your opinion of the Starchild skull and what do you think it might be?




I knew Lloyd Pye personally (a very good man), and I'm convinced the Starchild Skull was a real non-human anomaly. My best guess, and I think this was also Lloyd's, is that it was a hybrid.

Also, what is your opinion of the 3-fingered mummies? What do you think they might be?




I'm very skeptical. They appear to make little anatomical sense, and although I do respect Gaia TV senior producer Jay Weidner's honest attempts to do good research, I'm also skeptical of Gaia's VERY commercial motives to find and rush to publish sensational material that has NOT been well-vetted.

Nenuphar
29th November 2018, 01:13
I am just starting to learn about the Enneagram and find it a fascinating subject. Do you know what your "number" is, Bill? :)

DNA
29th November 2018, 02:16
The Serpo material was e-mailed anonymously to Victor for publication, in installments, and he streamed it all to his list. That was the entry point of the entire thing.
After a week or two, it was coming in thick and fast, and veteran researcher Bill Hamilton suggested to the list that someone should start archiving all this to a website. I held up my hand and volunteered. It was as simple as that.



I was just wondering. Over at the Hollywood Great Awakening thread there are a few posts starting here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103615-Hollyweird-GreatAwakening&p=1261203&viewfull=1#post1261203) where it is hinted at through a series of correlations that Steven Spielberg's "close encounters" was based on some kind of true event that was filmed and that this film was copied and bandied about in Hollywood where it was viewed by Spielberg and became the basis for "close encounters". Is this a connection to the Serpo events especially the scene at the end of the movie where some of the humans appear to enter the craft willingly as part of some inteplanetary foreign exchange program? Just curious as to your opinion on this.

Caliban
29th November 2018, 02:21
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I very much doubt it! To make the point, we humans, in different cultures, don't even enjoy and understand each others' music.

A Maasai tribesperson in Kenya would be unlikely to understand or enjoy Punk Rock. (Or Beethoven!) And we're unlikely to understand or enjoy anything considered as music by a tribe in the Amazon jungle, or Aborigines still living in the Australian desert.

It's just SO culture-specific, wherever we are. (And also has been, throughout the ages, all over the world.)


Ain't highjackin' your thread bro, but totally disagree. You're telling me some of these cats don't dig Beethoven or Mozart? The Doors or Jefferson Airplane? C'mon Bill, I enjoy Raga, Rock, Residents, and Rachmaninoff --- so why couldn't they?!

DNA
29th November 2018, 02:29
Mike's question 2) This question is a bit cliché, but if you could sit and have dinner with, say, any 5 people on the planet, who would they be?






'Charles'.
Dan Burisch.
Christine Anderson (my former wife).
Hal Puthoff.
Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet.


I've seen you repeatedly give Dan Burisch a lot of respect through out this Q&A and I've duly noted it. :)
I have to ask a slightly related question. I've noted in researching John Titor that he never claimed to know who or what UFO occupants were, but his best guess was that they were humans in a adjacent Universe that were on a timeline that would appear to be in our distant future. He didn't say he knew this for sure, but given his mode of getting here was along the same lines he said this made the most sense. This falls in line with what Dan Burisch was stating as well. What are your thoughts on John Titor?




Mike's question 3) Have you ever been physically attacked since beginning this 'conspiracy' research? No, never.
I have a question in connection to being attacked but it wasn't physical. I know you said there was a time you were interviewing someone who was revealing some piece of pertinent information and you stated that you both felt that you were being "energetically attacked". I can't remember the name of the person you were interacting with but the story always stayed with me. Can you elaborate on that? :)

Spellbound
29th November 2018, 05:16
Spielberg also did Taken, which was a fantastic mini-series (I have the dvd boxset). Grant Cameron said last year that Spielberg had been tapped by TPTB to assist in the slow drip disclosure and that he was given a large budget to direct another upcoming series involving ET's to be released in the next few years.

Dave - Toronto

mountain_jim
29th November 2018, 16:59
Yes, I felt Taken and Close Encounters both contained some leaked soft disclosure, with Taken following alien interference with family members across generations.

petra
29th November 2018, 17:28
Q: Do you know your blood type? And if so would you be willing to tell us what blood type you have?

Flash
29th November 2018, 18:00
This question is a bit cliché, but if you could sit and have dinner with, say, any 5 people on the planet, who would they be?
'Charles'.
Dan Burisch.
Christine Anderson (my former wife).
Hal Puthoff.
Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet.

We are all in speculations here but, Taking into consideration your privacy rights:

Why those people? and what would you want to discuss with them? What would you tell them? What do you think they could tell you?

Billy
29th November 2018, 19:23
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I very much doubt it! To make the point, we humans, in different cultures, don't even enjoy and understand each others' music.

A Maasai tribesperson in Kenya would be unlikely to understand or enjoy Punk Rock. (Or Beethoven!) And we're unlikely to understand or enjoy anything considered as music by a tribe in the Amazon jungle, or Aborigines still living in the Australian desert.

It's just SO culture-specific, wherever we are. (And also has been, throughout the ages, all over the world.)

I noticed there has been a few questions asking about ET's and music Bill, I feel the urge strongly to rephrase the question.
The question from Abmqa asked if you thought ET's enjoy our music ?

Q1: Enjoyment is an emotion, do you think that ET's have the same emotional capabilities as humans. From the lowest of low to the highest of highs plus everything in-between ?

Q2: This is my attempt to rephrase the question, do you think that some ET's may use sound along with specific tones as tools for many varied reasons ?

I was never quite sure if there were choirs of angels playing their flutes and harps, but you never know ?

Thank you Bill for this thread, for me ,sharing yourself with us all has been gratefully received :heart:

charlesfrith
30th November 2018, 00:08
superb bill. thx

Bassplayer1
30th November 2018, 02:42
Hi Bill,

Once again thank you for your openness and generosity in sharing your honesty, thoughts and feelings with us, I really appreciate it.

In an earlier question here, you talked about your enjoyment of music - particularly late 60s/70s rock - Crosby, Stills and Nash, Floyd, Hendrix, Zeppelin (with a bit of Prog thrown in if I recall) etc. I personally think this was a magic time for music enthusiasts and as a musician myself, I'm envious of the stories about how many of these bands were paid an advance to go in to the studio and quite often experiment! Anyway, if I could wave a magic wand, which of these artists/bands would you pay to see today, or accept a ticket as a gift? (Bearing in mind the ridiculous high prices and the soulless corporate stadiums where you can't even have a decent beer these days lol). Also, how many of these artists do you feel still remain pretty much themselves in terms of their integrity and values etc. There are many hugely successful musicians that are household names that somehow feel a bit weird when you watch them being interviewed today - it's as if something is missing and they are not quite themselves anymore.

Are there any that you'd be up for spending a weekend with interviewing them?

As a side thought here, thinking about Crosby, Stills and Nash reminds me of Joni Mitchell who I adore - especially her 70s jazz oriented stuff - what an accomplished guitarist she became!!! Anyway, I've read her biography and watched her interviews and she seems to be someone who has stood her ground in many ways against the industry, and I don't wish to sound like I'm fanning the flames of conspiracy here, but she has said that she has Morgelons disease. Do you also think there's anything weird going on in say, for example, her illness, John Lennon's death and the message he was trying to spread, or Bob Marley and his message and the unusual situation of cancer of the toe - just to name a few examples?

How many of the musicians you've loved over the years would you definitely want to see, not just out of enjoyment but also because you feel they have grown and kept a part of them selves untouched by the industry?

Sorry for the long winded muddle here ... blame it on the cheeky craft beer I'm enjoying as I type ;-)

I have to say, I'd do quite a lot to see Ann and Nancy Wilson (Heart) perform an entire concert of Zeppelin numbers. And yes, they might possibly get back together next year.

They do Zep better than Zep, and Ann does Robert Plant better than Robert Plant. Sacrilege to some! But a case can be made. :) With the passing of Freddy Mercury, Ann Wilson, now 68 years old (impossible to believe!), has by far the strongest, most powerful and most evocative voice in rock. Her voice is just as it was when she started out 50 years ago. Maybe better.

And if I had a time machine, I'd want to be at the 2012 Kennedy Center Honors where Ann and Nancy, backed by Jason Bonham on drums, an orchestra, and two choirs, performed Stairway to Heaven, the greatest modern song ever recorded, in front of Plant, Jimmy Page, and John Paul Jones, and a packed audience of celebrities that included the president.

It was staggering, acclaimed final act of the night that famously brought tears to the eyes of Robert Plant. (And to mine, too. I can't watch that often enough. It was the greatest live performance of Stairway to Heaven ever done, including by Led Zeppelin themselves.)

Trivia here compared to much else on this thread, but here it is. It's something to witness. These things do matter. (And, note. ETs can't do this kind of thing. Only humans can.)


https://vimeo.com/104287711
I've enjoyed this reply so much (so far) that I'll pause here and come back to the rest later! :)


Hey Bill, thank you for your thoughts to my questions and thanks for sharing this great performance! Robert Plant's face says it all - no ego, just humbled and moved. Great stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Zep something ridiculous like in their early 20s when they originally recorded and performed this?!!! It got me wondering what it must feel like - the difference between when they were young (extremely talented) lads performing in a bare-bones, on-the-road 4 piece band and then watching their creativity nearly 40 years on being played back to them as a full-on production by artists they have influenced and moved. Thank you Bill, this is a gem xx

Bluegreen
30th November 2018, 03:53
Some :heart: for Bill
From back in the day when a band wrote a song and then played it onstage
Ps7tVvQHLyo

happyuk
30th November 2018, 20:32
Hi Bill what is your opinion on the work of Wilhelm Reich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich) author of the classic 1933 treatise on psychotherapy Character Analysis (https://rosswolfe.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wilhelm-reich-character-analysis.pdf)?

Do you think he really was the certified nutcase the three-letter agencies made him out to be?

The original intention of the FDA was to root out quacks and charlatans, but I would not put Reich into this category. His writings clearly demonstrate a mindset that is extremely eloquent, observant and insightful.

On the other hand I cannot vouch for the effectiveness of his so-called orgone accumulator which he claimed could charge up the body with the life force (which he christened "orgone energy") that circulated in the atmosphere, in order to cure cancer and a host of other ailments.

Do you think he had ideas and knowledge that those in positions of power and authority were genuinely intimidated by?

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:11
I am just starting to learn about the Enneagram and find it a fascinating subject. Do you know what your "number" is, Bill? :)

I wrote here a few days ago (post #419 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1260924&viewfull=1#post1260924))


Re the enneagram, I also know comparatively little about it. I did locate myself on the wheel some time back, but the fact that I can't remember my type says something! (However — if it's of any compensation! — I am trained in Myers-Briggs/MBTI, and know that pretty well.)

So this time, a few days later, I did a couple of free online tests. I confess I didn't find it straightforward answering most of the questions, and I'm thinking the results seem inconclusive at worst, provisional at best.

One test said:


5 (Investigator)
2 (Helper)
8 (Challenger)

The other concluded:


2 (Helper)
3 (Achiever)
9 (Peacemaker)

As a self-assessment, I'm probably all of those things, in one way or another. :)

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:16
The Serpo material was e-mailed anonymously to Victor for publication, in installments, and he streamed it all to his list. That was the entry point of the entire thing.
After a week or two, it was coming in thick and fast, and veteran researcher Bill Hamilton suggested to the list that someone should start archiving all this to a website. I held up my hand and volunteered. It was as simple as that.


I was just wondering. Over at the Hollywood Great Awakening thread there are a few posts starting here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103615-Hollyweird-GreatAwakening&p=1261203&viewfull=1#post1261203) where it is hinted at through a series of correlations that Steven Spielberg's "close encounters" was based on some kind of true event that was filmed and that this film was copied and bandied about in Hollywood where it was viewed by Spielberg and became the basis for "close encounters". Is this a connection to the Serpo events especially the scene at the end of the movie where some of the humans appear to enter the craft willingly as part of some inteplanetary foreign exchange program? Just curious as to your opinion on this.

All I can really say is that when the Serpo story was being seriously discussed back in 2006 by quite a large bunch of well-informed people, there was widespread speculation that there was indeed a connection with the closing scenes of 'Close Encounters'. I do tend to share that view.

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:35
I've noted in researching John Titor that he never claimed to know who or what UFO occupants were, but his best guess was that they were humans in a adjacent Universe that were on a timeline that would appear to be in our distant future. He didn't say he knew this for sure, but given his mode of getting here was along the same lines he said this made the most sense. This falls in line with what Dan Burisch was stating as well. What are your thoughts on John Titor?


Mike's question 3) Have you ever been physically attacked since beginning this 'conspiracy' research? No, never.
I have a question in connection to being attacked but it wasn't physical. I know you said there was a time you were interviewing someone who was revealing some piece of pertinent information and you stated that you both felt that you were being "energetically attacked". I can't remember the name of the person you were interacting with but the story always stayed with me. Can you elaborate on that? :)

I'm skeptical about John Titor, but I'm not 100% sure his story can be completely discounted. (The so-called 'John Titor II' was a complete fraud. His real name is Dana Lee Stern.)

Re being energetically attacked, I've experienced that quite a number of times. It may well be that the instance you're referring to was a late night conversation I was having with Camelot witness Jake Simpson (pseudonym), back in Oct 2008. (Kerry Cassidy had already retired to bed, so she wasn't involved.)

That extremely interesting experience — by far the most marked and unusual of its type I've ever encountered — is recounted here. It's well worth reading.


http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

Jake later said that it was an AI program he was well aware of that had been operational for about 20 years, that automatically interfered with the thought processes of anyone — wherever they were on the planet — who happened to approach certain 'sensitive' topics too closely.

He and I were both totally shut down by a powerful remote influence when trying to discuss something very important: I was being put to sleep as if suddenly drugged, while Jake, despite being a very strong and determined personality with psychic abilities of his own, was literally struggling to form words and speak.

To this day I cannot remember what it was that Jake was trying to tell me. I asked him the next morning, and his reply was to the effect that clearly it was best that I had absolutely no idea what we'd been talking about.

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:38
Q: Do you know your blood type? And if so would you be willing to tell us what blood type you have?

O Positive.

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:48
This question is a bit cliché, but if you could sit and have dinner with, say, any 5 people on the planet, who would they be?
'Charles'.
Dan Burisch.
Christine Anderson (my former wife).
Hal Puthoff.
Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet.We are all in speculations here but, Taking into consideration your privacy rights:

Why those people? and what would you want to discuss with them? What would you tell them? What do you think they could tell you?


'Charles' — I'd like to talk with him about some of the things that happened when we were in close touch during 2010-11. There are a couple of important apologies I'd want to make to him personally. And the dinner would be on me.



Dan Burisch — I'd like to ask him why he and Marci turned against us so suddenly (and almost violently) back in 2009. That dinner would be on me, too. Dan had been a close personal friend.



Christine Anderson (my former wife) — I'd like to ask her to please return my stolen gold, as she had at one point promised to do. And also, to kindly pay for the dinner. :)



Hal Puthoff — I have a standing invitation to visit him at the Institute of Advanced Studies for a cappuccino. With a large bunch of refills, dinner might not be needed. There's a LOT I'd like to ask him, off record and in confidence, about what he really knows.



Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet — I'd like to ask him what the true inside story is. It might need to be a very long, 9-course dinner, extending over many hours. I'd naturally offer to pay... but I'd imagine that he would be well able to afford the bill.

Bill Ryan
30th November 2018, 23:57
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I very much doubt it! To make the point, we humans, in different cultures, don't even enjoy and understand each others' music.

A Maasai tribesperson in Kenya would be unlikely to understand or enjoy Punk Rock. (Or Beethoven!) And we're unlikely to understand or enjoy anything considered as music by a tribe in the Amazon jungle, or Aborigines still living in the Australian desert.

It's just SO culture-specific, wherever we are. (And also has been, throughout the ages, all over the world.)

I noticed there has been a few questions asking about ET's and music Bill, I feel the urge strongly to rephrase the question.
The question from Abmqa asked if you thought ET's enjoy our music ?

Q1: Enjoyment is an emotion, do you think that ET's have the same emotional capabilities as humans. From the lowest of low to the highest of highs plus everything in-between ?

Q2: This is my attempt to rephrase the question, do you think that some ET's may use sound along with specific tones as tools for many varied reasons ?

I was never quite sure if there were choirs of angels playing their flutes and harps, but you never know ?

Thank you Bill for this thread, for me, sharing yourself with us all has been gratefully received :heart:

I do find myself thinking that many ETs might find human thought processes bewilderingly complex, and maybe very hard to understand. Our capacity for strong, passionate emotion — of every kind — may be one thing that at least some races of ETs don't fully share. (Or in some instances, maybe don't share at all.)

I doubt if most ETs use sound at all very much, for anything... they're likely to be highly (or maybe 100% completely) telepathic. As best we know, some of them (the Greys) may not even have functioning ears.

How the sharing of what we call 'music' might translate into telepathic communication, I really have almost no idea at all. :)

Bill Ryan
1st December 2018, 00:10
Hi Bill what is your opinion on the work of Wilhelm Reich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich) author of the classic 1933 treatise on psychotherapy Character Analysis (https://rosswolfe.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wilhelm-reich-character-analysis.pdf)?

Do you think he really was the certified nutcase the three-letter agencies made him out to be?

The original intention of the FDA was to root out quacks and charlatans, but I would not put Reich into this category. His writings clearly demonstrate a mindset that is extremely eloquent, observant and insightful.

On the other hand I cannot vouch for the effectiveness of his so-called orgone accumulator which he claimed could charge up the body with the life force (which he christened "orgone energy") that circulated in the atmosphere, in order to cure cancer and a host of other ailments.

Do you think he had ideas and knowledge that those in positions of power and authority were genuinely intimidated by?

Sorry to disappoint: I really don't know enough about Wilhelm Reich to feel I can make a definitive comment that may be worth much. But I absolutely don't discount the many detailed claims that he had discovered something important that (a) worked, and (b) caused him to become an Enemy of the State.

Spellbound
1st December 2018, 02:31
In your opinion Bill, what is the primary reason TPTB will not bring forth disclosure?? Is it because they don't think we can handle the fact that some ET's kidnap and eat humans?? Is it because it would bring an end to (or at least call into question) the current paradigm as it relates to big oil, big pharma, etc?? Or is it because it would call religion into question?? I realize these are all contributing factors, but in your opinion what is the greatest reason??

Oh, and do ET's have sex??

Dave - Toronto

Flash
1st December 2018, 03:10
Do you think ETs understand and enjoy our music?

I very much doubt it! To make the point, we humans, in different cultures, don't even enjoy and understand each others' music.

A Maasai tribesperson in Kenya would be unlikely to understand or enjoy Punk Rock. (Or Beethoven!) And we're unlikely to understand or enjoy anything considered as music by a tribe in the Amazon jungle, or Aborigines still living in the Australian desert.

It's just SO culture-specific, wherever we are. (And also has been, throughout the ages, all over the world.)

I noticed there has been a few questions asking about ET's and music Bill, I feel the urge strongly to rephrase the question.
The question from Abmqa asked if you thought ET's enjoy our music ?

Q1: Enjoyment is an emotion, do you think that ET's have the same emotional capabilities as humans. From the lowest of low to the highest of highs plus everything in-between ?

Q2: This is my attempt to rephrase the question, do you think that some ET's may use sound along with specific tones as tools for many varied reasons ?

I was never quite sure if there were choirs of angels playing their flutes and harps, but you never know ?

Thank you Bill for this thread, for me, sharing yourself with us all has been gratefully received :heart:

I do find myself thinking that many ETs might find human thought processes bewilderingly complex, and maybe very hard to understand. Our capacity for strong, passionate emotion — of every kind — may be one thing that at least some races of ETs don't fully share. (Or in some instances, maybe don't share at all.)

I doubt if most ETs use sound at all very much, for anything... they're likely to be highly (or maybe 100% completely) telepathic. As best we know, some of them (the Greys) may not even have functioning ears.

How the sharing of what we call 'music' might translate into telepathic communication, I really have almost no idea at all. :)

They have to be aware of sound, it seems to me, at the minimum in the waveform category, at a minimum the mathematical side of it. They also have to have sound impacting their body, a bit like a deaf person does hear music with her body and can therefore dance for example. If they are composed of any matter they have to somehow feel its waveform expanding towards and through them, that the brain registers it or not, the body does.

Anyhow, their interpretation of sound might be so different than ours that we cannot imagine what sound is for them, yet much less music.

Bill Ryan
1st December 2018, 12:51
In your opinion Bill, what is the primary reason TPTB will not bring forth disclosure?? Is it because they don't think we can handle the fact that some ET's kidnap and eat humans?? Is it because it would bring an end to (or at least call into question) the current paradigm as it relates to big oil, big pharma, etc?? Or is it because it would call religion into question?? I realize these are all contributing factors, but in your opinion what is the greatest reason??

Oh, and do ET's have sex??

I think the problems with Disclosure are so compoundedly huge that anyone who's in a position to make or advise about an executive decision just kicks the issue down the road and says "Not today".

Meanwhile, the long-term program to acclimatize the general public to an ET reality has been continuing for decades. That could never do any real harm, and is at least a kind of failsafe to minimize shock in society in case something happens that's unanticipated or out of control.

As Richard Dolan has often pointed out, there's every current reason not to disclose, and absolutely NO reason to actually do it. (What's the pressing need when the whole thing could detonate in their faces? It's far safer to leave the entire unexploded bomb untouched.)

My personal current opinion about what the MAJOR problem really is is not connected with the revelation that we're not alone in the universe. Every child knows that now. :)

The problem I suspect is really that many of the issues are multidimensional and utterly uncontrollable, such as the Skinwalker Ranch phenomena (which we now know the DIA are taking very seriously as a genuine threat to National Security), with Dave Paulides' Missing 411 research very possibly being closely related.

It's quite one thing to explain that ETs like us from other planets are traveling here in their metal spaceships to say hello. It's quite another to talk about shapeshifting, malevolent (and possibly truly demonic) activity that we don't understand one bit and have absolutely no defense against.

~~~

Do ETs have sex? According to many contactee and abductee reports, they do indeed.

TomKat
1st December 2018, 18:21
I had a possible experience with this supposed AI. Remembering David Icke's claim that he'd been offered an ATM card that would not register (free money), I went up to the ATM and put my bank card in, and thought "we'll just let the reptillians pay for this." The machine would not accept my PIN and I could not get any money out. I drove away and, before crossing the railroad track, the RR crossing arm came down to block my way, even though there was no train, so I turned around and got the F out of of there! :-) A few days later, there was a new brand of ATM machine at the bank, which worked fine no matter what I thought. But at other branches of the bank they still had the old machine. I tried it a couple more times, and every time I did, the machine would not accept my pin. Eventually all the ATMS were switched out. Just another weird tale from the fringe.

Aviator
1st December 2018, 21:48
Whichever person is the formal current head of the council that's running the planet — I'd like to ask him what the true inside story is. It might need to be a very long, 9-course dinner, extending over many hours. I'd naturally offer to pay... but I'd imagine that he would be well able to afford the bill.



You might have to take your dinner with a non human entity. Enjoy...

Baby Steps
2nd December 2018, 15:08
hi

- would you give any credence to the idea that different et races engage with humans in different geographical parts of the earth?
- do you have an opinion as to whether different et groups are engaging with different earth governments, particularly China, Russia, and India?
- Does the looming confrontation between groups of nations on earth have an exopolitical dimension to it?
-Would you say that the MJ12 group, or its current incarnation controls diplomatic contact, if any, or is it possible that different deals or assistance are being provided to certain nations?
- Would you agree that the apparent species of et encountered would not be a guide to our speculation regarding their orientation or agenda?

many thanks

charlesfrith
2nd December 2018, 18:07
Hello Bill,

I'm surprised about your Inelia update and so I did a search on Project Avalon and found nothing from the Inelia thread which appears to have died in 2011. Can you elaborate on those traps as her work is a key element that I factor in to the larger story.

Many thanks.

charles

angelfire
2nd December 2018, 22:27
Hi Bill,

Another question for you:

If you only had a few hours left to live because of an impending cataclysm, how would you spend those last hours and how would you prepare for moving on?

christian
2nd December 2018, 22:28
Hey, Bill! Do you think that human CO2 emissions should be regulated and governed? And why?

Denise/Dizi
3rd December 2018, 00:13
Have you reached out to Kerry to give her advice on how to avoid being shredded in the eyes of public opinion? (Mostly in the way she handled the Mark Richards testimony)


No. I'd not even try. She doesn't respect or value my views enough to be able to listen. I feel really sure it'd be a failed mission.

That truly is a shame.. You're advice to me has been nothing but wonderful, and taken to heart, because it was extremely useful information.. But I understand why you take this stance. I surely hope she can recover from this one.. Remaining neutral and humble, is all she need do.... I wish her well...


Can I ask one more question? ...

When looking back on the "Charles" interview.. Do you ever think... "Well played my friend, Well played" ???

As it seems he WAS playing chess with you, even then... And your move was LITERAL...To Equador..

It almost makes me think that he deliberately didn't suggest that you should move when you two were talking, and he did it, to let YOU convince yourself that you should, merely by his silence on the issue... There was some mutual respect by that point in the interview, an he knew you felt that way, so by merely NOT saying something, and nodding... By that point in the interview it was obvious that you were hyper critiquing ever statement that he made, looking for his weakness.. And you valued what he was sharing... So when it came time to make his move, he chose to say nothing at all, and let your overworking mind at that point.. fill in the blanks.. BRILLIANT actually.... I would have thought the same thing.. That he was suggesting that wouldn't be a bad idea... It is amazing how the human mind works when we're trying to figure out manipulations, he KNEW you were looking for one, so his move was to NOT provide one, and let you over burden yourself trying to read between the lines... to find one... In a sense YOU provided the manipulation when you couldn't find one HE provided...

Your move to Equador move may have not had anything to do with that however.. But I can't help but wonder after rewatching the interview... If indeed it had, and you had ever thought.. "Well played Charles" .. If it had been me I would have laughed and tipped my hat...

Bill Ryan
3rd December 2018, 13:28
- would you give any credence to the idea that different et races engage with humans in different geographical parts of the earth?
- do you have an opinion as to whether different et groups are engaging with different earth governments, particularly China, Russia, and India?
- Does the looming confrontation between groups of nations on earth have an exopolitical dimension to it?
-Would you say that the MJ12 group, or its current incarnation controls diplomatic contact, if any, or is it possible that different deals or assistance are being provided to certain nations?
- Would you agree that the apparent species of et encountered would not be a guide to our speculation regarding their orientation or agenda?



These are interesting big-picture questions, and I may not be able to offer much insight. :)

My guess (a pure guess!) is that ETs wouldn't really may much attention to human national boundaries, except for noting where the main military installations are (and where to find/how to contact their leaders/directors if needed).

If different ET groups were engaging with different national human groups (or geographical groups), that'd also suggest a level of co-ordination and agreement between different ET races that might not exist. (And if there WAS that kind of co-ordination — "you handle those humans and we'll handle these humans" — it might not matter, as that suggests there'd be an overriding jointly-agreed ET agenda anyway.)

There have been reports that there are conflicts between ET groups, with Planet Earth is one of the battlegrounds. I can't locate the reference right now, but Linda Howe has made a presentation to that effect, with some evidence behind it in the form of off-record testimony presented to her by military or agency insiders.

Assuming there's an MJ-12 group, or its present day equivalent (and I do think there is), there's every reason to believe it'd be global and international in scope — or, at the very least, working hard to be. It'd have to be, in order to be effective in any way.

Of course, this alone might account for the lack of 'disclosure' from the Russians, Chinese, Indians, Australians, Canadians, South Africans, Brazilians, British or French. (Or anyone else!) This does suggest that those policy decisions are co-ordinated, or simply directed, by a senior supra-governmental group.

Bill Cooper did famously state (and maybe correctly, back in the late 1980s or early 90s) that it'd be impossible to understand global geopolitics without factoring ET influence into the equations. (Stan Deyo, claiming inside knowledge, has said much the same thing.)

Regarding species of ETs (if I understood your question correctly!), I don't think we can extrapolate anything about their agenda from what they seem to be (or how different they seem to be!) — or what they seem (to us) to look like.

Bill Ryan
3rd December 2018, 13:46
Hello Bill,

I'm surprised about your Inelia update and so I did a search on Project Avalon and found nothing from the Inelia thread which appears to have died in 2011. Can you elaborate on those traps as her work is a key element that I factor in to the larger story.

There's not really much more I can say! If you search on this thread for 'Inelia' (use the Search Thread tab towards the top right of this page), you may possibly find a little more here than you've read so far.

Bill Ryan
3rd December 2018, 14:04
Hi Bill,

Another question for you:

If you only had a few hours left to live because of an impending cataclysm, how would you spend those last hours and how would you prepare for moving on?

Well, that'd have to be a global warning of an only-just-detected incoming asteroid headed straight for Ecuador. :) But I do understand the nature of the question! (And it might be an interesting thread in itself to invite all members to post on.)

That's just a variant of the 'if-you-only-had-so-long-to-live' question. But hours is different from months. I'm on my own here, so the choices are simple ones. I'd imagine I'd message everyone I knew with goodbyes, explaining that in case they'd not heard the news yet, Ecuador was about to be wiped out. And I'd tell them where and when to look out and find me next lifetime: I already have some ideas about that. (We do have choice!)

Bill Ryan
3rd December 2018, 14:11
Hey, Bill! Do you think that human CO2 emissions should be regulated and governed? And why?

No. They really have little or no bearing on anything. See this post, just today: Robert Felix's re-pubishing of a short, simple, and very important interview with meterologist Piers Corbyn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Corbyn).


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world&p=1262184&viewfull=1#post1262184

Bill Ryan
3rd December 2018, 14:16
When looking back on the "Charles" interview.. Do you ever think... "Well played my friend, Well played" ???

As it seems he WAS playing chess with you, even then... And your move was LITERAL...To Ecuador..
[ ... ]
Your move to Ecuador move may have not had anything to do with that however.. But I can't help but wonder after rewatching the interview... If indeed it had, and you had ever thought.. "Well played Charles" .. If it had been me I would have laughed and tipped my hat...

No, I didn't move to Ecuador because of anything 'Charles' said in his interview. :)

(As I mentioned in my post #483 just above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1262204&viewfull=1#post1262204), you can search this thread using the Search Thread tab on the top right of the page for all the various 'Charles' references so far.)

RunningDeer
3rd December 2018, 16:55
And I'd tell them where and when to look out and find me next lifetime: I already have some ideas about that. (We do have choice!)
Care to share a bit more about choice and where you'll go in your next life?
Thanks in advance. https://i.imgur.com/12qEVko.gif

lunaflare
3rd December 2018, 17:57
Hello Bill,

Do you recall choosing this very lifetime you are experiencing?

If so, what role does "karma" play in these choices?
How much detail do you recall?

Is it obvious to your conscious mind when you meet certain players (that you have chosen) to help propel you on your life journey?

How would you explain what scientists call, junk DNA/dark matter (the places between cell particles /what cannot be determined in space)>

Are you living your full potential as a human being?

Are you aware of physiological changes? (light body awakening, so to speak).

Do you make good coffee in Ecuador?

Thank you, Bill

Valerie Villars
3rd December 2018, 19:04
Forgive me Bill, but I have been confused about the Inelia thing every time it's mentioned.

I believe you said you were warned to distance yourself from her. Please correct me if that is not true. And also that you moved from Switzerland due to something to do with that same issue.

I have looked at the Inelia thread and can't find anything which indicates a problem. Can you clarify?

If I missed something, I apologize.

avid
3rd December 2018, 21:06
Why do I feel so protective of you? The utter panic I feel when you challenge things that would make you unsafe is daft, but normally it’s not a problem. That evidence of Wawa Grande should be a warning to all, there are certainly interdimensional creatures. Reading through past posts on missing people is surely evidential. You had a great escape - thank goodness you resisted the ‘Siren-call’. I am not mad - just the overwhelming panic was not normal.
Perhaps that missing climber was a victim of what you realised was there at the haunted lakes?

Ol' Roy
3rd December 2018, 22:19
This is a question that I am reluctant to ask. How do you make a living in Ecuador? Regression Therapy? You don't have to answer please! That can be very personal!

RedX
4th December 2018, 07:50
What's your favorite food/dish? Feel free to include appetizers, sides, deserts or whatever.

Mongolian barbecue. :sun:

Great, now I'm hungry. Good thing it's lunchtime.

BTW, thanks for this thread, it's a mountain of gold. :beer:

Denise/Dizi
4th December 2018, 08:02
Thank You Blll, you're so gracious

petra
4th December 2018, 17:31
Why do I feel so protective of you? The utter panic I feel when you challenge things that would make you unsafe is daft, but normally it’s not a problem.
...
I am not mad - just the overwhelming panic was not normal.


I feel protective too, and I don't know why! My guess is it's this forum and not Bill himself that I feel protective of.

I began to panic when Bill said he's good for 100 or so more questions. That doesn't even make sense why his good frame of mind would trigger panic in me. It went away fast though, and I imagine that maybe it's "not my own panic" which I'm feeling. Maybe the "nasties" are starting to panic. I know I would, if I were them!

ramus
4th December 2018, 19:09
Hi Bill my question : and you'll know where this comes from, how do you keep you cool when people just don't seem to get it, and argue with very bad logic or can't seem to see themselves. I know this can apply me at times. How do you not just give up trying, how do you not go ballistic?

onawah
4th December 2018, 22:22
Bill, do you have any post impressions to share regarding your (and Kerry's) interview with James of Wingmakers?
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/themes/wingmaker/style/dark/pdffiles/Project%20Camelot%20Interview.pdf
Thank you.
PS I don't think we had any substantial evidence that Sitchin's assertion the Annunaki enslaved humans to mine gold in Africa was true until Michael Tellinger's discoveries of the ancient settlements and gold mines in Africa. What are your thoughts regarding that?
THONUYzbl7U

DeeMetrios
5th December 2018, 01:34
Hello Bill
Thank you for allowing us this opportunity in this great thread .
What are your thoughts on the following ......

Barbara Marciniak & her Pledeian Collective
Kryon as channelled by Lee Carol
Abraham & Esther Hicks
Bashar & Daryl Anka

cheers

Bill Ryan
5th December 2018, 10:49
And I'd tell them where and when to look out and find me next lifetime: I already have some ideas about that. (We do have choice!)
Care to share a bit more about choice and where you'll go in your next life?
Thanks in advance. https://i.imgur.com/12qEVko.gif

Actually, this is a work in progress, and so I'm not quite ready to say too much more. (I'm definitely returning to Planet Earth, though. Everyone I know is here. :Party: )

I have had some conversations with a few close friends, agreeing where and when we'll meet up next time round, and how to recognize each other. This is an interesting subject about which very little (if anything!) has ever been written... making plans and agreements for one's next life.

:flower:

Bill Ryan
5th December 2018, 11:08
Hello Bill,
[ ... ]


Do you recall choosing this very lifetime you are experiencing?




Yes, I do.

If so, what role does "karma" play in these choices?
How much detail do you recall?




Quite a lot of detail. I now have pretty much the whole [very interesting] story.

'Karma' is ONLY one's own inner drive to complete unfinished business. Nothing more. It's 100% internally defined. It's not an external agency, factor, or influence, in any form.

What that means is that we have a VERY strong inner drive, as spiritual beings, to complete or continue working on goals and projects (which can very often extend across lifetimes), make good our mistakes, repay debts, see justice done, reconnect with close friends (and enemies!), fulfill promises, and so on.

It's all up to us. What drives us is the past decisions we've made, and what we've not yet checked on our spiritual To Do list. :)

Is it obvious to your conscious mind when you meet certain players (that you have chosen) to help propel you on your life journey?




Yes. I've learned to recognize folks I already know from old. I once sat down, quite a while back, to make a list, and it extended to many hundreds of people. It might be thousands now!

How would you explain what scientists call, junk DNA/dark matter (the places between cell particles /what cannot be determined in space)




Well, 'Junk DNA' (DNA in the human genome which appears to have no apparent purpose) is different from 'Dark Matter' (an unproven concept to explain gravitational anomalies in astrophysics).

I'm no geneticist, but it does seem to me improbable that any DNA is actually 'junk'. It seems far more likely that it does (or did) have a purpose or function, but we simply don't understand it yet.

Are you living your full potential as a human being?




No. :) But if my lifetime came to an end tomorrow, I'd be more than really satisfied with my life.

Are you aware of physiological changes? (light body awakening, so to speak).





No. I really have no idea what that actually means!

Do you make good coffee in Ecuador?




Yes, you bet. :muscle:

Bill Ryan
5th December 2018, 11:15
Forgive me Bill, but I have been confused about the Inelia thing every time it's mentioned.

I believe you said you were warned to distance yourself from her. Please correct me if that is not true. And also that you moved from Switzerland due to something to do with that same issue.

I have looked at the Inelia thread and can't find anything which indicates a problem. Can you clarify?

If I missed something, I apologize.

I think you did miss what I posted earlier here — click on Search Thread (the tab near the top right of this page), then click on 'Advanced Search', and then enter 'Inelia' as the keyword and 'Bill Ryan' as the user name. Make sure you check the button 'Show results as Posts' (not threads). The various posts will come up in the search results, for this particular [long!] thread.