Help me to explain the drain.

[wnlight]

Something really strange happened to me this weekend. I had felt tired all Saturday, but worse Sunday. I was feeling drained of energy. I didn’t feel like shopping for food that I needed. I didn’t feel like cooking nor going out for food. I didn’t wish to do anything. Then about 5pm, Sunday, I got this strange feeling that someone unknown was tapping into my energy. Although in a state of confusion, I reacted swiftly. I cut off the energy flow (by intent), I protected myself (by request). And I started replenishing energy from the universe (by intent). I didn't know if these actions were necessary, but it couldn't hurt. Then, exhausted, I collapsed in my easy chair. An hour later I was back to my normal self and took the dog out for a walk. :-)

So, what was happening to me yesterday? I am feeling just fine today. I looked up “energy vampire” this morning, but it did not seem to fit my experience. I live alone. There is no one that I regularly see who could fit the energy vampire descriptions found on the internet. I dowsed all the people that I had visited with this weekend asking in turn if s/he was doing this. The definitions that I read did not include chance meetings along the street.

[Jean-Marie]

I was feeling the energies this weekend. So last night I went looking to see what was up. If you look at this link below, and look at the charts from Germany on the KP index we were flat.

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/auroral-activity/kp-index

And here is text you can read on the effects Cosmic Galactic Rays on human health. We are at risk when the KP index is at 0 or between 7-9.

https://abruptearthchanges.com/2018/02/11/space-weather-its-effect-on-human-health-behavior/

Here is Ben Davidson's video on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFLYj_SVX0M

and here is another video that shows we were at KP 0 for several days in October.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Z2XZRu9j8

I was wondering if someone/something was sending the energies my way as well. :bearhug:

And I am not ruling that possibility out! :bigsmile:

[Jean-Marie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVSps-pfUvI

And here at this conference Ben Davidson says to fight back mentally!

:bearhug:

[pueblo]

I had a similar Sunday to you OP..

Could it have been the Moon?

[RunningDeer]

I had no desire for personal study this weekend. I typically devote 2-3 hours each day and have for most of my life since childhood. I did sit and ponder (AGAIN), “What's this block to not be able to voice anything I sense and almost see?”

My sleep patterns were messed up this weekend and the dreams continue to be different from the usual. One thing I notice is how people speak to me directly, that is, we converse telepathically. Whereas typically, I feel more like an observer or a lone player living parallel to the others much like two kids that play side by side with little interaction.

One other thing is many who have passed pop into my dreams now, and some from my past came in. One example is my first husband interacted with me in three dreams over the weekend. I haven’t had contact with him since 1994. I can’t help wonder if he’s experimenting with dream travel or if his spirit is beginning to leave his body.

[liderr]

Boy, can I relate to this post! I've been commenting to my co-workers lately that mentally, reality has been like an episode of "the twilight zone". While my energy level has been lower than usual, the more disturbing aspect is everything seems so damn surreal. I'm feeling a bit better as I write this , but I honestly realize I still have a ways to go to finally work through these feelings. Archon-like ankle-biters sure are a pain!!

[Flash]

I had no desire for personal study this weekend. I typically devote 2-3 hours each day and have for most of my life since childhood. I did sit and ponder (AGAIN), “What's this block to not be able to voice anything I sense and almost see?”

My sleep patterns were messed up this weekend and the dreams continue to be different from the usual. One thing I notice is how people speak to me directly, that is, we converse telepathically. Whereas typically, I feel more like an observer or a lone player living parallel to the others much like two kids that play side by side with little interaction.

One other thing is many who have passed pop into my dreams now, and some from my past came in. One example is my first husband interacted with me in three dreams over the weekend. I haven’t had contact with him since 1994. I can’t help wonder if he’s experimenting with dream travel or if his spirit is beginning to leave his body.

If we are talking of energy and dreams, I had a weird dream last week, that could be related to my inner state, or to the world affairs.

I dreamed that I was home, sleeping, when Bill Clinton (no less ;)) got into my room. He was as physical as can be, in my dream, right height, right weight, and over and above, pis sed drunk. So drunk that he was unmanageable.

He crashed onto my bed. I tell him, in English "wake up, wake up" push him on the shoulder a bit. He started to undo his pants. Knowing his reputation, I thought "gosh I have to get away fast" but could not go through the front door, because I would have have to pass over him, so I decided to go through the dining room and the back door in the kitchen, saying "where is the kitchen, where is the kitchen". Then woke up.

It was so real as a dream that I looked wherever I could to see if Bill Clinton had not been admitted to hospital (lost his mind) or died. Or been indicted.

I am still shaken by the dream when I mention it.

And yes, I am more tired than usual.

Maybe we are being sucked up of energy to the max because they are somehow deprived of it and need it fast, or because they are preparing something.

[RunningDeer]

And yes, I am more tired than usual.

Maybe we are being sucked up of energy to the max because they are somehow deprived of it and need it fast, or because they are preparing something.
I feel like I’m waking up to this pretend world much more than I understood it to be. The dream state is a safe place for the transition to understand and perhaps recall. It takes more energy to sit with this experientially, thus the increased level of energy drain.

https://i.imgur.com/CIEhvsN.gifhttps://i.imgur.com/HUxUJRQ.gif https://i.imgur.com/Wfi0NBS.gif

[petra]

Gee. While you're trying to explain the drain, I'm trying to explain the coincidence...

I'm feeling similarly and it's coming and going fairly quickly. I can't call it energy drain because I didn't really have much energy to begin with.

Moon was my first thought too. Though the moon doesn't seem to affect me, I've heard reports of patterns in regard to the moon phases.

I also haven't ruled out abduction. I don't expect to be able to prove an abduction, but my menstrual period did come 2 weeks early, which I find mildly suspicious.

Just this morning I caught myself ranting in my head about not wanting to do anything, and how much I love doing nothing. I was reminded of the main character in the movie "Office Space" who was asked "What would you do if you won a million bucks?". "Absolutely Nothing", he remarked.

I've had this somewhat depressing feeling before, and it always goes away. I don't always want to do nothing.

Once it does, the world ends up feeling different somehow. Liderr said surreal, which fits, I'd just describe what I feel more like a "fakeness" feeling - as if everything were made out of cardboard.

[greybeard]

At my age being tired is ok--Not having to do anything I just go for a sleep and enjoy it.
However the best word I can come up with is apathetic.
Im no suicidal but would be quite pleased to drift of in my sleep.
Got the T shirt--had a great life, no complaints, now im bored and cant be bothered looking for something to do.
Things seem a bit pointless--as in looking for something new to do
My son asked if it was possible I was sitting on a nail and howling.
No im not unhappy as such---all just seems surreal.
I get two kids playing but not interacting, thanks for that.
The feeling will pass no doubt

Chris

[Hazelfern]

A large area in eastern PA experienced what I called a power surge that lasted for a few seconds. People in multiple counties reported the same thing happening at the same time. (Via group text) The weather was perfectly fine, no storms. This was Saturday evening around 9:00 pm EST.
Not to be dramatic but it felt different than a usual power surge. That is why I reached out through the text app to see if anyone else noticed it.

[Bob]

There was a strong magnetic spike Norway region about 18 hours ago, then over on the northern regions of Alaska about 4-5 hours ago a very similar spike.. Extremely rapid polarity shift, a pattern similar to a "bell" being struck with a hammer and then the ringing slowly dying out. From experience that would be the result of a solar storm influx, however none was reported on any of the satellites.. It could possibly be then originating from within the earth.

ref: https://geomag.usgs.gov/plots/

[RunningDeer]

At my age being tired is ok--Not having to do anything I just go for a sleep and enjoy it.
However the best word I can come up with is apathetic.
Im no suicidal but would be quite pleased to drift of in my sleep.
Got the T shirt--had a great life, no complaints, now im bored and cant be bothered looking for something to do.
Things seem a bit pointless--as in looking for something new to do
My son asked if it was possible I was sitting on a nail and howling.
No im not unhappy as such---all just seems surreal.
I get two kids playing but not interacting, thanks for that.
The feeling will pass no doubt

Chris

As silly as this sounds… I’m learning for the first time to do nothing. It’s okay to sit, feed the birds, watch the leaves change color and listen to the sounds of them whirling around the driveway, track the ladybug across the window-pane…

There’s less pressure to gather more data. In fact, the more I release, the freer I am to experience Paula-the-simple-human that’s replete with natural abilities. These reveal themselves the more I engage the humanness that’s been muffled by inner and outer programmed beliefs and systems.

Past activities/people/goals were perfect for the time and necessary; I’m learning how to be un-busy from the silliness I once thought was important.

No doubt, I’ll rightly understand the strides I’ve made living as a human.
Even more so later.
Exponentially so.

Until then…

https://i.imgur.com/bICGgx0.gif

[AriG]

Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

Maybe its just that simple.

Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?

[Flash]

Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

Maybe its just that simple.

Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?

Yes I had thought of it, hibernating starting, like bears.

I always feel slower in fall. But this is a bit different, not only am I drained, by my brain is kind of messed up, as if I cannot focus as I usually could. Yet, I am regaining some physical better shape compared with previous years. Go figure.

[Hazelfern]

Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

Maybe its just that simple.

Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?

Maybe its the seasonal change? Could very well be but I doubt it. Warren lives in Ecuador where I assume the seasons are mostly the same. The women posting are all hypothyroid, undoubtedly. We are boiling hot most of the time.
I think the OP is searching for a reason he felt off kilter.

Looking forward to Warren's answer

[greybeard]

I can believe that here is a chemical imbalance--a lack of selenium--perhaps
At the moment I have started to use Mucuna
It is used as an aid to lift mood and many other positive effects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucuna_pruriens

https://www.indigo-herbs.co.uk/natural-health-guide/benefits/mucuna-pruriens

[Valerie Villars]

wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.

I can handle blue avians, reptilians, greys, e.t.s, demons, the complete destruction of every paradigm I've ever known and then some, but where has civility gone? Where did we lose respect for one another? At what juncture did that get hi-jacked?

Because that, more than any other physical hits, or psychological ones or any other thing that gets thrown at us, the loss of compassion is the one that baffles and drains me the most.

[Caliban]

wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.

Not sure where they've gone, but much of them has gone. Look at what's accepted behavior in the media -- endless self promotion by both talented and talentless figures. There's no "shame" anymore (old sense of word), no line that shouldn't be crossed to get your name and face in the public eye. People mirror the media and vice versa, so you see it all the time just out and about. Talking on phones on speaker inside a store. Cutting you off in traffic. No "excuse me" when you get bumped.

More "communication" doesn't mean an increase in understanding, empathy and consideration. Cultivation of the soul is still a personal matter. Class (old sense of word) has always mattered, no matter where you come from. And it still does, to a few of us.

[AriG]

wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.

Not sure where they've gone, but much of them has gone. Look at what's accepted behavior in the media -- endless self promotion by both talented and talentless figures. There's no "shame" anymore (old sense of word), no line that shouldn't be crossed to get your name and face in the public eye. People mirror the media and vice versa, so you see it all the time just out and about. Talking on phones on speaker inside a store. Cutting you off in traffic. No "excuse me" when you get bumped.

More "communication" doesn't mean an increase in understanding, empathy and consideration. Cultivation of the soul is still a personal matter. Class (old sense of word) has always mattered, no matter where you come from. And it still does, to a few of us.

I notice that most people sensing the lack of civility and "man's inhumanity to man" live in the US. I have dear friends in the UK who don't feel this way. They have a connection and a sense of community that is sorely lacking here. My husband, who is English and living here since 2001, thinks he has the answer - guns. And I am beginning to agree with him.

Now before all the gun owners accuse me of infringing on their civil liberties, allow me to state that I am a gun owner. I own a 38 caliber snub nose revolver for added home security, and I own a rifle for (attempting) shooting coyotes that are everywhere here and could threaten my goats and fowl. Luckily, they rarely come out as I have two of the most beautiful, smart, talented and loyal Livestock Guardian dogs ever.

I digress. So back to guns. So my dear friend lives in Carmarthenshire in Pembrook Wales. She recently moved there and bought a small piece of land upon which to live the sort of life that i have here. Sheep etc. But her life is so much better in so many ways. The Village just two miles from her farm.They recently flooded. Terrible. Hundreds of sheep in low lying areas were drowned; a young man lost his life. Although she has only lived there about a year, she knows everyone in the Village and was headed down to her lower lying neighbors the next day to check on their well being.

Meanwhile, back in the states. We have a few neighbors. They are not super close, but close enough. One neighbor stole a dog we had rescued. The other neighbor shoots off his front porch that faces the main road (we are in a very undulating hilly karst topography), etc., etc..
No one reaches out. Everyone keeps to themselves. There are no friends here. If there were to be a natural disaster, the last thing that we would do would be to just show up and walk onto their land. Why? Guns... There is no "right of way" here. Walk onto someone's land and risk being shot. Same thing applies in the city. I have had to beg my husband to not engage people when they are behaving badly. Why? They might have gun.

People all over the world have ideological differences. And its ok to debate those differences in a civil manner. But here, in the US, people are angry, disjointed, emotionally hijacked and armed


My apologies to the OP. This has nothing to do with feeling drained (or it could if you have the misfortune to live in the US in 2018).

[Valerie Villars]

It's disgraceful. I got in a tailspin today, because yesterday they had a girl taking selfiies in a mirror during class, with flashes.

1) It's against the rules.

2) The instructor said nothing.

3) After the fourth flash in the mirror, I walked over and said "You can't do that." She never even looked up from her texting and taking a photo and flashing.

We are in an exercise class. Are you kidding me? She was so addicted, she said twice, all the while never once making eye contact, "No, no, it's okay" as she texted.

I left the class, complained to the front desk and management and went home and thought "why am I telling these people how to do their job?"

The instructor never said a word and it is against the rules, printed and very clearly. It's rude and distracting.

[Smell the Roses]

wnlight, I have been feeling the energy drain as well. On the NPC thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104704-The-Left-Can-t-Meme--NPC-meme-crashes-twitter--) Valerie mentioned a book called The Secret History of the World (https://archive.org/details/LauraKnightJadczykTheSecretHistoryOfTheWBookZZ.org/page/n3) by Laura Knight-Jadczyk. I was reading it last night, and some of the ways that the author explains the phenomenon of the non-creative (or soulless as she calls them) feeding off of the creative souls really spoke to me.

She quotes one of the Gnostic gospels: "Why do you continue to listen when from the beginning you should have been speaking?" It's the opposite of what you hear in popular culture, where they always encourage people to listen more. I have been listening pretty much my whole life, waiting to hear someone who is not a dead writer of classic literature or philosophy say something worthwhile. I think all of us need to talk more and listen less. We have important contributions, and there aren't that many of us around. We are also taught by popular culture that only crazy people with a Messianic complex think that they are special. Well, I am here to tell you that you who are reading this are special. It is time, as wnlight mentioned, to stop the energy drain and to consciously start receiving the proper energy you need to get the job done, whatever the job may be in your particular case. :Avalon:

[wnlight]

Thank all of you for responding. You deserve a follow-up. Although I was feeling drained of energy Saturday and Sunday, I have recovered. Requesting that the drain stop has helped. drawing more energy into my body helped. It is all by intent. But immediately following my requests, I collapsed into my easy chair and fell asleep. Two hours later I woke and felt fine. I have had my normal energy since then. I still do not know the cause.

[Bo Atkinson]

Thank You everyone for your posts.

I’ll be the oddball maverick here and report my life long findings… I’ve always been more drawn to self-motivation and self-energization. No offense intended to other practices posted here, i have tried a lot of those things too, even the planetary alignment encouragements, (or concerns). It just so happened that applied self-motivation always provided more energy and benefit.

I started seeking and comparing such things regularly five decades ago. The greater effects appear much more influenced by mental and spiritual forces and less from material causes, but successful refinement requires all-well-balanced in attitude and practice. Honing out balances appears critical to get mental, emotional and physical all harmonizing.

I appreciate that digital users would predominate on a forum but some forward thinkers also insist upon the practical-physicality. I came from a non-physical life-styled background to know even these can be livable. I happened to choose a physical laboring lifestyle, with sufficient skill acquirement and stabilizing emotional practice, steadily expanding, to provide for balances. Otherwise it would seem all useless, despairing and damaging.

County lifestyle in the USA can also be very cordial and friendly. I think it is the power-commodification of everything which distorts the enjoyment of life. People ravaged by circumstances, under the effects of this commodification become un-harmonized with life. Guns are much less the cause and rather are among the effects, of distorted emotionality. Commodification ignores harmony of communities and all life.

In once rural Maine, USA, we are getting influxes of retirees and suddenly even major financial corporations, all moving in, providing many mixes of lifestyles all heaped together. My earlier life here saw more of the older ways, where we would tend to automatically wave-hello, to any car driving by, on rural dirt roads,(not the busier paved roads with higher speeds). This was so charming i tended to comply. My point here is that these were mostly gun owner-users who highly respected human values. With technocracy taking over everywhere, my bigger concern for humanity is instead that we manage to force ourselves to make eye contact with strangers somewhat cheerfully, at least some of the time. Otherwise AI wins, humans fall.

[petra]

I'm concerned I might be "draining" my friends, and I worry a lot that I might be part of this problem. I've looked around a bit about energy vampirism already, and there's a few people worrying about the same. If I am draining people (which seems unlikely) I wouldn't know how to stop that, except maybe become a hermit, or suicide =/



The instructor never said a word and it is against the rules, printed and very clearly. It's rude and distracting.

And frustrating. Feels like you're talking to a wall. Cardboard world...



I feel like I’m waking up to this pretend world much more than I understood it to be.

Me too, and I'm finding it quite unsettling. I miss the "old world", where nothing used to give me the creeps :P



It was so real as a dream that I looked wherever I could to see if Bill Clinton had not been admitted to hospital (lost his mind) or died. Or been indicted.

I am still shaken by the dream when I mention it.

And yes, I am more tired than usual.

Maybe we are being sucked up of energy to the max because they are some how deprived of it and need it fast, or because they are preparing something.

I think you might be right Flash. These dreams that shake us up so much are definitely an indicator of something. I had "Bill Cosby" stalking me in one dream, and that was before he got accused. I had "Vince Vaughn" stalking me in another one. That was ages ago, but I still remember because it was creepy.

I was very very drained all yesterday. Then I had a dream last night that's drained me even more. I was working at a job that's similar to my current job, with some of the same employees, except the job was 10x harder, and in a different building. My boss wanted me to do some kind of math test, and I remember saying "I'm too busy to do a math test!", and "Tell him I'm not doing the math test". I saw the test too, it was complicated math and it had triangles in it. I don't think I could have done it anyway, but the "me" in my dream could have - she was just too busy.

I really AM busy at work, and probably just watching too much TV about people who work a lot. Even so, it was very very real and also exceedingly frustrating.

[Smell the Roses]

I'm concerned I might be "draining" my friends, and I worry a lot that I might be part of this problem. I've looked around a bit about energy vampirism already, and there's a few people worrying about the same. If I am draining people (which seems unlikely) I wouldn't know how to stop that, except maybe become a hermit, or suicide =/

Dearest petra, I can't imagine that you are actually a drain. I remember you answered a post I made a while back and said something like you would probably be one of the people that I was complaining about that annoyed me. I was surprised, because I know I can be harsh on other people at times, and I wouldn't want you to be hurt by anything I said.

The Personality Test (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-MBTI-Myers-Briggs-Type-Descriptions) thread made me realize that I can tend to lump Avalon forum participants into one category, because we do share something that is different than the rest of the population. But then to see clearly that there are very real personality differences, and that in fact my personality type is much different than that of many others here, made me think that I should keep this in mind more often when posting.

You, petra, are valuable, and I hope you can step out of feelings of despair such as these.

In my mind, the main energy drainers are doing it quite consciously through activities such as creating false organizations and personality cults to drain the energy of those who look outside of the Mainstream Media Matrix. I can't see you being a master manipulator of this sort, unless your disguise is very good, and most psychopaths aren't that good at disguise and don't need to be for their purposes. Those NPCs who quite willingly and happily go along with the bread and circuses of the Brave New World are likely energy drainers of creative folks as well, but I am certain you aren't one of those either.

I am assuming that your statement about suicide is more of a rhetorical one. I had similar thoughts in 1993 when I stopped being a radical environmentalist attempting to approach zero negative impact on the Earth. I realized that I could have zero impact by being dead, and what purpose would life be if it was only to work toward having no impact? If your statement, isn't rhetorical, please let us know! :bearhug:

[petra]

I'm concerned I might be "draining" my friends, and I worry a lot that I might be part of this problem. I've looked around a bit about energy vampirism already, and there's a few people worrying about the same. If I am draining people (which seems unlikely) I wouldn't know how to stop that, except maybe become a hermit, or suicide =/

Dearest petra, I can't imagine that you are actually a drain. I remember you answered a post I made a while back and said something like you would probably be one of the people that I was complaining about that annoyed me. I was surprised, because I know I can be harsh on other people at times, and I wouldn't want you to be hurt by anything I said.


I'm just kindof suspicious because all of my friends seem depressed lately. I think the Halloween holiday is probably part of why I'm depressed, I really don't like Halloween, but I also don't want to spoil other people's fun.

I only vaguely recall that, and was probably just another case of me worrying about nothing. Sometimes I get on my own nerves, so I imagine I probably get on other's nerves too sometimes :) I can absolutely assure you I wasn't hurt because no one on this forum has ever come close to hurting me.



The Personality Test (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58489-Free-Personality-Test-and-MBTI-Myers-Briggs-Type-Descriptions) thread made me realize that I can tend to lump Avalon forum participants into one category, because we do share something that is different than the rest of the population. But then to see clearly that there are very real personality differences, and that in fact my personality type is much different than that of many others here, made me think that I should keep this in mind more often when posting.

You, petra, are valuable, and I hope you can step out of feelings of despair such as these.


Already done! I'm trying to be objective. When my train of thought moves along to me rationalizing killing myself, I figure I'm probably doing something right. Like Mike so eloquently put it in another posting "You can always kill yourself later" (ha ha). That won't happen - it was rhetorical.



In my mind, the main energy drainers are doing it quite consciously through activities such as creating false organizations and personality cults to drain the energy of those who look outside of the Mainstream Media Matrix. I can't see you being a master manipulator of this sort, unless your disguise is very good, and most psychopaths aren't that good at disguise and don't need to be for their purposes. Those NPCs who quite willingly and happily go along with the bread and circuses of the Brave New World are likely energy drainers of creative folks as well, but I am certain you aren't one of those either.


I'm certainly not intending to manipulate, but I am being kind of pushy when it comes to figuring things out. It's difficult to explain, so I'll use the Butterfly Effect as an example. Even something SO TINY as one letter being left out of one word in one book can have HUGE implications. So following that, even the tiniest choices (or mistakes) we make which seemingly have no consequence, can have lasting effects.

Here's an example. I threw away a piece of junk ornament my mother had, because it was in a position which I found to be sexually suggestive - it looked like it was having sex with another ornament. I didn't really think much of it because to me, it was just a piece of junk ornament someone made in 5 minutes.

She noticed it was gone, and blamed one of my brother's friends for stealing it. I tried to tell her that I thought I might have took it and not put it back, but she wouldn't listen. Maybe I should have been more persistent and just told her I threw the thing out. Lesson learned -- Don't throw away other people's things!!

[Smell the Roses]

I'm just kindof suspicious because all of my friends seem depressed lately. I think the Halloween holiday is probably part of why I'm depressed, I really don't like Halloween, but I also don't want to spoil other people's fun.



You, petra, are valuable, and I hope you can step out of feelings of despair such as these.


Already done! I'm trying to be objective. When my train of thought moves along to me rationalizing killing myself, I figure I'm probably doing something right. Like Mike so eloquently put it in another posting "You can always kill yourself later" (ha ha). That won't happen - it was rhetorical.
I am glad to hear it was rhetorical. Thank you for clarifying! :flower: I'm not a huge fan of Halloween either, so I'm glad it's over. Tomorrow I'm taking my kids to an All Saints Party, which kind of extends the season, but can be fun.

[Trisher]

Whenever I feel drained or out of balance I run through my checklist.

1. My first go to is looking up at the sky. The frequent chemtrailing and haarping have a direct effect on life-force energy. Rippling shows Haarp activity. Remedy. Increase grounding and raise vibration through visualisation. Carry crystals and Orgonite to keep the energy field clear. Stay indoors.

2. I check out the energy of the sun. It can feel very toxic at times and pulls and drains life-force. Remedy. Stay out of the direct sunlight and pull curtains if necessary. Also increase grounding and vibration as above.

3. I check my thinking. Staying in the moment helps cancel developing stories. Thinking drains life-force. A lot of the time there are frequencies being used that trigger memories and thought patterns that have very negative repercussions on life-force. A re-run of a scene can refresh it and bring it straight back as if it has only just happened. Remedy. Calming and stilling and meditation. Go for a swim or long walk. Put a big red cross through unwanted thoughts. Stay in the moment.

4. I check surrounding EMFs in the home. They can be emitting programming frequencies and create unwanted emotions and stress while they drain life-force. Chemtrails and Haarping carry EMFs and interact with EMFs in the home. Remedy. Turn off devices. Increase grounding and raise vibration in whatever way you find works for you.

5. I energetically check all internet browsing before watching. I often stare at the link and if there is a drop in energy I do not watch it. Anything on the internet has the potential to fill you with negative sticky energy through the eyes.
Remedy if caught out. Increase grounding and clear and raise vibration.

6. A high vibrational person will automatically clear a person who is full of negative energy. This can happen anywhere and in any circumstance. So unavoidable in most cases. Remedy. Increase grounding. Carry life-force enhancing objects like crystals and orgonite. Clear as soon as possible in whatever way suits you. Just walking around where others have walked can create a clearing happening through you as people leave trails of energy wherever they go.

I am sure there are others but that is my main list and through experience I know that when I feel down it is 99% of the time not of my making but a manipulation of some sort which then triggers patterning and uncleared emotions and scenarios.
Does anyone have a check they use that they would like to share?

Trisher

[happyuk]

Really enjoying this thread which deserves a bump IMHO. Traditionally November has always been a killer for me anyway both energetically and karmically.

I can personally vouch for the self -realisation fellowship energization exercises as an effective means of removing all physical and psychological disharmonies. These are not merely mechanical exercises they are spiritual too with the realisation that the body is essentially like a battery subject to periods of depletion but by use of will has access to cosmic energy too.

For me the proof of the pudding has to in the eating and I can personally attest that besides giving much needed energy to meet the daily requirements of a demanding (though fair) employer and a young family it has cleared up a number of long standing (as in decades) physical ailments I had too.

[greybeard]

I use Qui-gong sometimes and I should make it regular.
No doubt the mind and body are linked--what affects one affects the other.
Its good to share

Chris

[RunningDeer]

I use Qui-gong sometimes and I should make it regular.
No doubt the mind and body are linked--what affects one affects the other.
Its good to share

Chris
Qigong, qi gong, chi kung, or chi gung - (wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong))



Qigong practice typically involves moving meditation, coordinating slow flowing movement, deep rhythmic breathing, and calm meditative state of mind.

Qigong is now practiced throughout China and worldwide for recreation, exercise and relaxation, preventive medicine and self-healing, alternative medicine, meditation and self-cultivation, and training for martial arts.

[greybeard]

Dyslexia is my excuse--its Qigong.
When I was being trained as a bio-energy practitioner we were taught Quigong which builds the spiritual energy(chi) of the therapist in order to facilitate successful healing
In China there are hospitals where only Qigong is used.
The success rate is amazing seemingly.

There is nothing but energy--atoms in movement.
If for whatever reason ones energy is drained, it affects every atom of body and brain.

Chris