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marielle
31st October 2018, 20:39
A few weeks ago I took my yearly health screening with my employer to get a discount on my health insurance. I have been following a very low carb diet now for a while and also practicing intermittent fasting. I wanted to be the same weight as last year so I was eating one-meal-a-day (OMAD) for a week prior to the test. Long story short--my LDL almost tripled. It went from 90 to 250. The "Health Coach" took me to task and lectured me. My other metrics were fine and my fasting glucose was only 72 (if you think that is too low, google the term "fat-adapted").

Anyway, this experience put me on a mission and I found that there is a very vocal subset of researchers and medical professionals out there who believe cholesteral, LDL in particular, has gotten a bad-rap.

This article just came out in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/oct/30/butter-nonsense-the-rise-of-the-cholesterol-deniers


Butter nonsense: the rise of the cholesterol deniers

A group of scientists has been challenging everything we know about cholesterol, saying we should eat fat and stop taking statins. This is not just bad science – it will cost lives, say experts


I follow on Twitter the cardiologist mentioned in the article, along with many other "deniers". Dr. Aseem tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1057649658628112384


It’s not just a harsh piece Tim. Reliable sources including one within the @guardian has informed me it was a deliberate ‘hit job’attack aimed to silence debate. Articles like this also do tremendous harm to patients and public health.

Here is a great video of a presentation (I wish I could find a better version) that another researcher gave just recently about *how* they cherry-picked data to make LDL the demon:

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Another researcher, Tucker Goodrich, says the real demon when it comes to heart disease is the combination of seed oils and glucose which cause oxidized LDL and is toxic in your body. He may be on to something:

https://lowcarbcardiologist.com/lccp037-tucker-goodrich-omega-6-seed-oils-and-our-health-another-medical-paradox/

5th
31st October 2018, 21:01
Unfortunately there is nothing black and white when it comes to food and dieting. Practically everything we know about food is just more programming to take away our power. We are fed a belief system and then worry that we have to follow it...

The bottom line is that it is all BS because it is possible for almost anybody to be perfectly healthy without eating anything at all and this is one of the biggest game changers when you see the truth of this. Food and food supply together with the resulting health supplement industry is as big as the scam connected with money, tax and the financial system and keeps most people worrying for most of their life.

I never believed breatharianism was possible until I came across Ray Maor (www.raymaor.com) and became a breatharian myself. Once you understand this, all debate about what is good or bad to eat and what causes this or that disease becomes an irrelevant joke. Most of what we're told about food is fear porn...

But yes, I still eat because eating is a huge part of social life and it's very enjoyable but I don't need to eat and can go a month without any food at all and yet remain perfectly healthy. Water is more difficult but a week without water is quite possible.

It's perfectly obvious that some people eat poor quality food yet remain reasonably healthy and others make huge efforts to eat only healthy food and still get sick or even die of cancer. Like everything else, health is connected to your emotional state and if this is leaking energy good food won't be so effective. 'Scientists' ideas of what is good or bad for us changes with each decade.

We shouldn't need 'experts' to tell us what to eat - our body already knows. But as I said, the bottom line is that it is possible to be 100% healthy with no food at all and once we believe this, we can eat what we like without worrying. The idea that heart disease is caused by a particular food is nonsense as it is a result of stress and the emotional condition of the person - which obviously effects what and how they eat. It's a chicken and egg thing.

Baby Steps
31st October 2018, 22:49
Hi.
Agree that this new pro saturated fat 'cholesterol is not bad' trend is solid, science based, and not going away.

Can I ask, do you have any theories or indications as to why your count spiked so strongly?

Many thanks

marielle
31st October 2018, 23:48
Hi.
Agree that this new pro saturated fat 'cholesterol is not bad' trend is solid, science based, and not going away.

Can I ask, do you have any theories or indications as to why your count spiked so strongly?

Many thanks

The general idea is that since I was using my stored fat for my energy requirements and LDL transports fats (triglycerides) to the cells for energy, your LDL skyrockets when fasting to meet the extra demand. I was 24 hours in a fasted state when I took the test and had been fasting with one meal a day for a week prior to the test. Dave Feldman, of this site: https://cholesterolcode.com/ he has found that he can manipulate his cholesterol up or down based on his diet for the 3 days prior to the test.

DeDukshyn
1st November 2018, 19:32
Hi.
Agree that this new pro saturated fat 'cholesterol is not bad' trend is solid, science based, and not going away.

Can I ask, do you have any theories or indications as to why your count spiked so strongly?

Many thanks

This is a "course correction" to the original claims and "research" put out by the big sugar giants long ago to try to demonize all other foods, to make sugar products look better. Coca Cola had a very large hand in demonizing saturated fats and making us believe that "counting calories" was the rule to maintaining good health. Sugar is far less calorie dense than fats - so this strategy actually worked for many many decades. The truth is starting to come out now.

We should never be amazed at how deep large corporations hands can get into things like "health science" -- they have in fact managed to corrupt all our education from public schools to expensive universities, and "experts" most often just parrot what previous so called "experts" have said without actually knowing anything themselves. The lies that we believe to the benefit of making huge profits for some greedy a**holes are sometimes mind-blowing when revealed.

If your body wants you to have high LDL, you can cut it 100% out of your diet, and you body will make it. There is only a very loose correlation between blood cholesterol levels and dietary cholesterol.