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witchy1
5th January 2011, 10:20
The FDA has just notified small pharmacies that they will no longer be allowed to manufacture or distribute injectable vitamin C —despite its remarkable power to heal conditions that conventional medicine can’t touch. Please help reverse this outrageous decision!

Let’s get this straight. The government acknowledges the risk of a worldwide flu pandemic. It acknowledges that conventional drugs cannot cure big viruses-like the mononucleosis and hepatitis viruses, many influenza viruses, and many others. It acknowledges that many bacteria have become resistant to antibiotics and are killing increasing thousands. It acknowledges the risk of a worldwide drug-resistant TB pandemic.

Despite acknowledging all this, it now insists on wiping out one of the best potential treatments for these conditions and for certain cancers as well. And why is this being done? What possible rationale is offered? Because it’s dangerous? No. Because it can’t be patented and therefore won’t be taken through the standard FDA approval process. No matter that vitamin C is one of the least toxic components of our food supply and liquid forms of it have been used safely for decades.

By the way, here is what is not safe. Don’t substitute home-made vitamin C solution for pharmaceutical grade liquid. That is not safe for injection. If the FDA action leads someone to do that, the FDA should be held responsible for the results.

The government, instead of banning intravenous vitamin C, should instead be supporting research into it. Even though IV C is being used in burn units around the world, including in the US, and has been adopted by the military for this purpose, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) refuses to fund any studies using intravenous C in patients. There are privately funded studies currently underway, but of course these cannot continue if the FDA bans the substance.

With at least one of the pharmacies, the FDA seems to be banning injectable magnesium chloride and injectable vitamin B-complex 100 as well. These two substances are routinely added to intravenous C to make the “Myers Cocktail,” used especially for conditions such as chronic fatigue syndrome, and infectious diseases such as hepatitis, AIDS, mononucleosis, and flu. The FDA is not going after the Myers Cocktail directly, but is rather attacking each individual substance used to make the cocktail, and may conceivably be going after injectable vitamins and minerals in general, despite such injections being given under the care of a qualified physician.


Please contact the FDA right away (https://secure3.convio.net/aahf/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=648), and tell them to stop this foolish war on intravenous vitamin C!

Each of us reading this should think, “Intravenous C could someday save my life.” Dr. Jonathan Collin, editor of the Townsend Letter, discusses the case of a man in New Zealand who nearly died from swine flu (http://drjonathancollin.com/letter_IVVCinIC.html). After developing a severe fever and upper respiratory infection, his condition deteriorated and he became comatose. Eventually even a ventilator was insufficient to keep him breathing because his lungs were so compromised by pulmonary edema. After weeks of heroic intervention, doctors decided there was no chance of survival and nothing further should be done for him.

The family asked the hospital to administer intravenous vitamin C. After much disagreement, the hospital gave him 25 grams of vitamin C every 6 hours. There was so much improvement over the next two days that the hospital decided to reinstate his intensive care—but they discontinued the vitamin C, saying that he had improved only because they had rolled him onto his side or his stomach instead of keeping him on his back! Not surprisingly, his condition once again deteriorated.

The family moved him to another facility that reluctantly allowed the IV vitamin C (albeit at a lower dose), and his lung function gradually improved. He came out of coma after four weeks, and after taking vitamin C orally, he gradually improved enough to be discharged. One year later, he was back to flying his plane and surveying his farm in New Zealand. None of the doctors who fought so hard to prevent his treatment with vitamin C have ever acknowledged their error.

Even people in perfectly good health may not be getting enough vitamin C. We recently noted the research that up to 87% of Americans are vitamin D deficient (http://www.anh-usa.org/action-alert-is-the-institute-of-medicine-in-bed-with-big-pharma/). But studies also show that many people may be deficient in vitamin C as well. A recent study on 1,000 Canadian adults (http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2009/07/13/aje.kwp156.full) found 33% had suboptimal levels of vitamin C—one in seven was “very deficient”—which could place them at increased risk for chronic health problems. Those who were vitamin C deficient were also more likely to have larger waists, greater body mass, and higher blood pressure (http://www.purescientific.com/component/content/article/322-vitamin-c-deficiency).

The study’s author, Dr. Ahmed El-Sohemy, suggested eating fruits and vegetables high in vitamin C, such as citrus fruits and peppers, or taking supplements. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) in nonsmoking adults is 90 mg per day for men and 75 mg for women, though some experts say a minimum daily dose of 120 to 200 mg is more appropriate, and some routinely take much higher doses themselves. Research also shows that people suffering from various diseases may benefit from larger amounts. In the case of the common cold, a review of published trials (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10340298) found that amounts of 2 grams per day appear to be more effective than 1 gram.

But there is a big difference between oral vitamin C and intravenous C. One maintains your health. The other seems to directly attack pathogens and cancer cells. Vitamin C taken orally will not do this, because the concentration does not seem sufficient to accomplish the task.


Please take action immediately! Please contact the FDA, and tell them to take their job of protecting our health seriously—by allowing injectable vitamin C, magnesium chloride, and vitamin B-complex 100 to continue being manufactured and sold! And don’t accept the answer that these substances need to be taken through the full FDA approval process. These are not patentable substances and no one will pay billions to do that. To require a standard approval process for them is identical to banning them, as the FDA know full well.



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astrid
5th January 2011, 10:30
WOW... this is a real worry. I have had injectable VIt C myself, for Glandular fever, it works and fast!!
Its becoming BLATANTLY obvious they don't want us to be well, or have any means of avoiding catching whatever new virus they are thinking of releasing next...

heyokah
5th January 2011, 11:17
It is said that the problem is that the human body limits the amount of vitamin C absorbed orally.
The more you take, the less of it gets absorbed (the "expensive pee" argument against vitamin supplementation).

Intravenous therapy with vitamin C has been used to overcome the obstacle of limited oral absorption.


http://www.suite101.com/content/intravenous-vitamin-c-and-cancer-a63790#ixzz1A9s9d5j2

ThePythonicCow
5th January 2011, 11:27
WOW... this is a real worry. I have had injectable VIt C myself, for Glandular fever, it works and fast!!
Its becoming BLATANTLY obvious they don't want us to be well, or have any means of avoiding catching whatever new virus they are thinking of releasing next...

An alternative that I hear works perhaps even better: liposomal Vitamin C (http://drbloem.com/2009/05/15/liposomal-vitamin-c-qa-q-i-would-be-c/).

heyokah
5th January 2011, 12:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU--wadrMY

ThePythonicCow
5th January 2011, 12:37
I take Liposomal Vitamin C several times per day. I usually put a teaspoon of it into a glass of grapefruit juice. Here are the ingredients and Ultrasonic Cleaner I use, and a jar of the resulting product.

http://thepythoniccow.us/Liposomal_Vitamin_C_Preparation.jpg

Eligos
5th January 2011, 12:43
The (FDA) is systematically going after every natural product that works. If people don't wake up now to the treason, we will have nothing left.

conk
5th January 2011, 19:52
What do we see going on in the EU? It is coming here folks. I don't think there is much that we can do about it.

I remember a recent action on the table at the FCC. 80% of the 'town hall' meetings held on the subject showed that almost no one was in favor of the measure being pushed by the FCC. What did they do? Ignore the 80% opinion and do it anyway. It does not matter what we think or want. We are fast becoming powerless and they are getting bolder.

25 to 40 grams of C in an IV will knock the flu out in a few days! Yep, it's all about Big Pharma profits. Sooooooooooooooo many people need to go to jail.

keramikus
5th January 2011, 20:55
Hi there mates just wanted to drop few lines about mentioned above mononucleosis . The facts are, and I am speaking on polish data that 90 % of population had contacted this virus and the systems are very mild if you are young ( you take it as a regular cold and most of the patients dont even know that they have this virus in them so they dont cure, it passes by a week but you stay with it for all your life). The problem is when you are over 30 then you can be very very sick and mostly all the doctors cure you with antibiotics which makes it even worse, only vitamis c can be applied. I know of cases about people having high temp such as 39 for few months, and then being very week for few years after this disease. The desiase is also so called the "KISS DISEASE" as its spreads this way.

Arrowwind
5th January 2011, 21:14
Yes, liposmal vitamin C is the answer for all those who may need injectable. Even if one is comatose it can be administered via a feeding tube.
I have the formula for making your own lipsomal vitamin c and I will post it later, after I find it.

str8thinker
6th January 2011, 00:43
It certainly sounds as if injectable or liposomal Vitamin C has something to recommend it, but also remember that the chances of doing yourself some harm by treating yourself as a guinea pig are usually greater than the chances of doing yourself some good. The more one looks into the results of clinical trials (and it does require some expertise) the easier it is to find flaws in them. I'm no friend of big pharma, but just like all arguments pro and con a topic, one should collect the results of studies and look at their pedigree (which institutes, etc.). Take for example the risk potential of nanoparticles in sunscreens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanoparticle). Remember that the marketing bottom line is usually that the benefits can be shown to outweigh the risks, not that it's all benefit with no risk. If there is doubt, consider that both sides may be lying to us, or (as often happens), studies over a longer timeframe may reveal no real benefit at all.

Bear in mind that, as the old saying has it, even in the case of placebos, a third of subjects will say the treatment helped, a third report no benefit, and a third say it made them worse.

ThePythonicCow
6th January 2011, 01:28
It certainly sounds as if injectable or liposomal Vitamin C has something to recommend it, but also remember that the chances of doing yourself some harm by treating yourself as a guinea pig are usually greater than the chances of doing yourself some good. I trust my own hand more than I trust the dominant medical institutions of our times. I hear in your post the rationalizations of someone who chooses not to reconsider this topic at this moment in their life. So be it. But I encourage others at this time, and yourself at other times, to reconsider with an open mind. The matters of health, nutrition and food are vital to our well being.

ThePythonicCow
6th January 2011, 06:32
Yes, liposmal vitamin C is the answer for all those who may need injectable. Even if one is comatose it can be administered via a feeding tube.
I have the formula for making your own lipsomal vitamin c and I will post it later, after I find it.

Here is my recipe, as I prepared it for a friend a few months ago.

Here's a good recipe for Liposomal Vitamin C. I got this recipe from http://8aloha.com/Liposomal_Vitamin_C.html
I made some minor changes below to what I copied from that web page, mostly for clarity.

Consume up to bowel tolerance (bowels softer than you prefer.) The amount you need varies radically with
how much stress or germs your body is dealing with. It can vary from 10 grams to 100 grams of ascorbic acid
from one day to the next, if you were exposed to a crowd of people sneezing with flu germs and then missed
getting a good nights sleep. A very healthy person with no exposure, no stress and plenty of rest might
only need 5 to 10 grams per day.

The following recipe, using 1 level Tbs of ascorbic acid powder, makes 1+ cup of liquid containing 12 grams
of ascorbic acid, which would be one days worth or less for two people. When I mix it, it lasts a few days,
but that's because I take Vitamin C in several other forms as well (that I had already purchased, so might
as well use up.)

Dissolve 3 level tablespoons of soy lecithin granules in 1 cup of water (preferably distilled
or well filtered.)

Note: This is key to being successful from the start. Mix the lecithin and distilled water
in a seal-able quart jar so you can shake/agitate until the lecithin is completely dissolved.
You don’t want any lecithin granules visible. Keep agitating until all granules are dissolved.

I let this jar sit for a couple of hours, shaking strongly a couple of times, to get the lecithin
to soak up as much water as it can.

Make sure to start with lecithin granules, not lecithin liquid. Apparently the lecithin liquid
doesn't work well in this recipe.

Dissolve 1 level tablespoon of ascorbic acid powder (Vit. “C”) in 1/2 cup of water.

Pour both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned the unit on. Using a plastic
straw (leaving the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirred the contents.

Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about every 2 or3 minutes. Just push ON button to continue.
Repeat for a total of 20 to 30 minutes. By that time the entire solution should be blended into
a cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The Liposomal Encapsulated Vitamin C solution is now formed.

Tip: Pour the dissolved Vitamin C solution into the seal-able quart jar with the dissolved lecithin
and shake briefly prior to pouring into the ultra-sonic cleaner. When you first mix the two
solutions (Vit C and lecithin) they will bubble. If you have a small ultra-sonic cleaner, they
might bubble over the edge. So blend them first in a bigger jar to get past the bubbly stage, then
pour the mix into the ultra-sonic cleaner.

This protocol furnishes about 12 grams (12000mg.) of vitamin C product. At 70% encapsulation efficiency,
8400 mg would be of the Liposomal Encapsulated Vitamin C type. This solution will keep, acceptably,
at room temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep much longer.

conk
6th January 2011, 16:26
Vitamin C is complex. It has many constituent parts, just like vitamin E. To take an isolate and call it C is misleading. Nature provides it's nutrients in complicated forms that have many parts that work synergistically. That's why most vitamins are ineffective and possible harmful. Never buy your vitamins at WalMart, GNC, etc. Most of those are manufactured by drug companies. Find a source for whole food derived, full compliment vitamins.

ThePythonicCow
6th January 2011, 17:34
Vitamin C is complex. It has many constituent parts, just like vitamin E. I don't think so. The molecular structure is rather simple, C6H8O6, as shown in

http://www.3dchem.com/imagesofmolecules/vitaminc.jpg

conk
7th January 2011, 17:09
Thanks Cow. Interesting. There are other compounds in C containing foods, phytonutrients, etc., that enable C to be at it's best. I'm pretty sure that without these C is less effective.

ThePythonicCow
8th January 2011, 04:37
Thanks Cow. Interesting. There are other compounds in C containing foods, phytonutrients, etc., that enable C to be at it's best. I'm pretty sure that without these C is less effective.

I had been intending to expand on my previous post, regarding the simplicity of the Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) molecule, but your reply provides an excellent statement of what I intended to respond to, so I will respond to it directly instead.

Yes, foods containing Vitamin C also contain a wealth of phytonutrients (http://www.ars.usda.gov/aboutus/docs.htm?docid=4142) which contribute to ones health.

As you note, this is true for other nutritious foods as well. And as you note, the typical "vitamin pill" obtained from a drugstore or grocery store shelf contains just specific isolates of a few recognized vitamins, not the hundreds of other valuable phytonutrients found in natural food sources.

However in the particular case of Vitamin C something else is going on as well. Vitamin C is not (well, should not be considered as) a micro-nutrient. Other vitamins and minerals, such as found in the typical one-a-day multivitamin, are useful in does of micrograms or milligrams per day. Vitamin C is normally considered in this same category as it takes tens of milligrams per day to avoid the obvious affects of scurvy.

However it is my understanding, from the works of such people as Linus Pauling (http://amzn.com/0870710966) and Steve Hickey (http://amzn.com/159120223X), that the body can make good use of Vitamin C in much greater quantities, if available. Rather than tens of milligrams, one might be healthiest with tens of grams, or when gravely ill with hundreds of grams. This is a thousand times greater quantity than the typical micronutrient.

Such quantities require more focused means of consumption. Consuming 100 oranges per day to get 7 grams of Vitamin C is not practical. Just reaching optimum (in my understanding) blood levels of Vitamin C is difficult via normal digestive processes, given the limitations of gut absorption of it. Intravenous and liposomal Vitamin C are the two methods I am aware of that enable achieving optimum levels of Vitamin C in the body.

So, yes, ordinary vitamin pills are of limited use. They can help one avoid the specific illnesses identified with gross deficiencies of specific micro-nutrients, but they are quite insufficient to realizing optimum nutritional health. Even the more expensive whole food derived, full compliment, vitamins typically have suboptimal levels of and varieties of the many nutrients found in whole foods raised in a healthy manner in good soil.

But Vitamin C is special. In addition to a healthy combination of good foods and supplements, one can, by my understanding, benefit from a specific program of increased Vitamin C consumption. When I am feeling great, relaxed, and well rested, I consume 5 or 10 grams per day, in many 0.5 or 1 gram doses spread through the day. It could go to ten times this quickly (within an hour or two) if I were to sicken (though I have not had the opportunity to test this increase in the last few years.) Bowel tolerance is the primary means of titrating the amount.

Vitamin C is not the only nutrient worthy of special consideration for those of us consuming anything like a typical modern day diet. Vitamin D, magnesium, potassium and essential fatty acids (such as the Omega's 3, 6 and 9) are also worthy of special attention. Some other elements are worth special effort to avoid or minimize, including gluten, industrially processed oils, artificial sweeteners, gmo's, and no doubt other "foods" too numerous to mention (but easily found in abundance in our grocery stores.)

onawah
8th January 2011, 18:39
It's not just Vitamin C the FDA is going after.

FDA ATTACKS VIT. C!
FDA Seeking to Outlaw IV Vitamin C, Other Nutrients

"FDA: Leave Our Nutrients and Supplements Alone!"

Action item: http://tinyurl.com/saveIVNutrients

The FDA (the Food Destruction Agency) not content with its new power to control and industrialize our entire food supply, is, quite predictably, increasing its attacks on nutrients. Although the mis-named Food Safety [sic!] Modernization Act excludes nutrients, the FDA's rampage against natural health is by no means limited to degrading our food supply.

DSHEA, the 1994 Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act, which protects dietary supplements does not protect nutrients unless they are delivered in oral form. That means that intravenous, transdermal, nasal, suppository or other forms of nutrition are vulnerable to FDA assault in a particularly worrisome way. This latest action by the FDA makes that point clearly.

On December 28, 2010 FDA ordered certain small manufacturers to stop making injectable Vitamin C and several other injectable nutrients which are always used under a (holistic or Advanced health Care) physician's supervision by classifying IV Vitamin C, Magnesium and certain B Vitamins as "New Drugs".

The nutrients under attack, which form the basis of the popular "Myers Cocktail" and countless therapies for serious diseases, may be provided ONLY by compounding pharmacies under a specific prescription for a specific patient. This means that the cost of these nutrients will increase sharply.

It also means that the FDA, always hostile to compounding pharmacies and the independent use of nutrients, bio-identical hormones (now banned at the request of Wyeth/Pfizer, which manufactures dangerous synthetic hormones), the biologically active form of Vitamin B-6 (also banned at the request of a drug company) can pick off individual substances and attack compounding pharmacies at their leisure. This is a result of the power granted FDA in 2007 (section 301(11) of the Kennedy FDA Enabling Act) to ban interstate sale of any "food" ever studied for medical use, even if never so used.

Why, you ask, does FDA need authority to ban safe foods? Why does Congress think it has the power to grant such authority? Where in the Constitution does Congress have that power? And please, don't say it's in the "Commerce Clause" which grants the Federal Government the power to regulate Interstate Commerce. "Regulate" does not mean the power to forbid foods that people have always had the fundamental human right to grow, trade and use. It merely means to make commerce regular; to make fair and neutral "rules of the road" for Interstate Commerce. Under the 9th Amendment, the People have retained the right to grow and trade foods, including vitamins and minerals. As we Restore the Republic, that right must be respected again.

Manufacturing companies wishing to make and sell the now restricted injectible, inexpensive and life-saving nutrients will be forced to engage in full-scale drug approval testing for products that cannot be patented; this, the FDA knows, is economically impossible. The attack on Vitamin C comes on the heels of efforts by FDA to ban other nutrients, including forms of Vitamin B6 banned under the Kennedy Enabling Act.

If these restrictions stand, what nutrient will be next?

Please take the Action Item at this link, which tells the White House and FDA to leave our nutrients alone! http://tinyurl.com/saveIVNutrients

Maj Gen Bert Stubblebine (US Army ret), President
Rima E. Laibow MD, Medical Director
Ralph Fucetola JD, Counsel
Natural Solutions Foundation Trustees

witchy1
9th January 2011, 02:27
about mentioned above mononucleosis . The facts are, and I am speaking on polish data that 90 % of population had contacted this virus

MMS should nail the sucker