The Divine Feminine Re-emerging and the New Paradigm

[onawah]

So beautifully expressed, I felt it deserved its own thread.
From: The Cosmic Dancer
12/5/18
https://www.facebook.com/thecosmicdancerpage/posts/2217093551869480?__tn__=K-R
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[Image: Ellen Loke Photography]

"During the last 7 years I have been discovering womanhood and unlearning what it means to be a woman. I have fallen in love and devotion with its mysteries. I have committed to its ever changing waves and promised myself to walk this Earth in my too muchness, beauty and chaos. Rooted in my body, sovereign, whole and in presence with all of me.

The rise of the feminine is not only a higher number of women CEOs and in male dominated fields. It’s definitely NOT becoming more like men or making men be more like women, while dismissing gender differences. It is not staying forever in the oppressed /oppressor narrative either. It is NOT fitting into the current system as evenly as possible: NO.

It’s creating a new way, it’s returning to the Mother, uncovering the Good Noble Father, (not only the Patriarch). It’s the descend into the body — to lead from our minds and our hearts. Shaking the sophisticated appearances, peeling off the illusions and revealing our core, un-numbing ourselves.

For women it is getting rooted in our erotic and sensual authority — healing the shame and numbness that binds our bellies. Its allowing our sacred anger to move through, staying in our fire and respecting our cyclical nature.

Saying NO to performing, manipulating and pleasing. Saying YES to our ‘irrational’ truth, our womb knowing, and daring to inner-mother our most hurt, banished parts.

Refusing the fake-easy-way-out of blaming, guilting and demonising men: radical self-responsibility and shadow integration instead. Ultimately, its allowing us to be fully human — not just the good mother or the sexy girl, not just the seductress, the rebel or the fierce warriorres, not just the wild woman or the priestess. Not one, but ALL — every part of our psyche.

How would it be for men to witness the erotic force of women without controlling it, allowing and trusting their own desire without necessarily acting on it? Being in support spaces with other men, healing the mother wound and allowing their own feminine to exist?

There has been no greater repression of the feminine as in our men, and that is destroying us and the entire planet. Learning “Power-With” instead of “Power-Over” and rejecting the blunt idea that masculinity is toxic. Masculinity is beautiful, necessary and powerful.

Reclaiming my anger as vital and healthy, my joy as powerful, embodying the full spectrum of emotions as natural, and coming back into my messy body. Discovering my pleasure is my own — not for or because of men.

Finding the stories of my mother and grandmothers, father and forefathers brought back lost pieces of my soul and integrated me in my lineage — we are stronger when we untangle our heritage.

Baring my truth and cutting through movies and projections, finding my mid-line and moving into integrity, naming my hungers and stop starving. Honoring that everything in me wants to be heard and expressed.

Equally, one of my most potent lessons is loving, respecting, and receiving men. Allowing myself to be seen and held by them, dropping the pretenses and all the walls: deeply transforming medicine.

Letting myself be undone and renewed in the fullness of this togetherness.

~ Mirela Bitoi

[etheric underground]

Since I was a teenager I always knew females to be sacred.
I had that innate knowing that those who bear creation for our
Species is to be honoured and protected.
Not surprising that at spiritual gatherings/ meditations/ speeches etc..
I’m often the small percentage of male present and openly connected to
The feminine /mother energy that is always with us.
Slowly more masculine numbers are feeling and listening to her call.

[Frenchy]

Sinead O'Conner, at the end of the 'Rebel Song', purposely sings as 'God' being a Woman.. ( or a Feminine being )...
It's a beautiful performance ...

Apologies if I've got the Song Title wrong, pc probs, can't verify...

[greybeard]

Sinead has now become a Muslim.
Freedom of choice
I very much agree with the opening post.
Self respect so important.

Chris

[Pam]

I avoided this thread due to the title, I have to admit. I feel like the term "divine feminine" has been overused and abused. This is truly a beautiful piece and has some good, valid points.


The rise of the feminine is not only a higher number of women CEOs and in male dominated fields. It’s definitely NOT becoming more like men or making men be more like women, while dismissing gender differences. It is not staying forever in the oppressed /oppressor narrative either. It is NOT fitting into the current system as evenly as possible: NO.

I am concerned that there are a lot of women that seem to be caught up in what is described by the author above. Women evolving does not have to mean that women become more like men, or that men must change. Men need to evolve of their volition as do women. Women and men are not the same and denying or minimizing or trying to force change that is not organic is not the solution.

[greybeard]

Since I was a teenager I always knew females to be sacred.
I had that innate knowing that those who bear creation for our
Species is to be honoured and protected.
Not surprising that at spiritual gatherings/ meditations/ speeches etc..
I’m often the small percentage of male present and openly connected to
The feminine /mother energy that is always with us.
Slowly more masculine numbers are feeling and listening to her call.

Yes I agree with you.
I went to yoga years ago and was the only male there.
Same with spiritual workshops--talks etc.
Strange thing was that it was mostly men who gave the talks.
Do women relate more to a male spiritual teacher?
Or not enough female teacher tho the number is growing as seen being interviewed on
Buddha at the gas pump.

https://www.youtube.com/user/BuddhaAtTheGasPump

Perhaps not quite on subject.
Tantric meditation with a women was an unfulfilled ---unmet desire.
Truly that is the divine female in my opinion.
The divine union of opposites.

Divine Feminine perhaps a different thing.

Chris

[Pam]

Since I was a teenager I always knew females to be sacred.
I had that innate knowing that those who bear creation for our
Species is to be honoured and protected.
Not surprising that at spiritual gatherings/ meditations/ speeches etc..
I’m often the small percentage of male present and openly connected to
The feminine /mother energy that is always with us.
Slowly more masculine numbers are feeling and listening to her call.

Yes I agree with you.
I went to yoga years ago and was the only male there.
Same with spiritual workshops--talks etc.
Strange thing was that it was mostly men who gave the talks.
Do women relate more to a male spiritual teacher?
Or not enough female teacher tho the number is growing as seen being interviewed on
Buddha at the gas pump.

https://www.youtube.com/user/BuddhaAtTheGasPump

Perhaps not quite on subject.
Tantric meditation with a women was an unfulfilled ---unmet desire.
Truly that is the divine female in my opinion.
The divine union of opposites.

Divine Feminine perhaps a different thing.

Chris

You bring up an interesting point, Chris. I am reading some of the old spiritual books and accounts of great Yogis and sometimes women are not even mentioned. They talk only of men reaching spiritual goals. I know a lot of that could be cultural and there are accounts of female devotees and yoginis and Great yogis that were all inclusive to genders and social standing.

[onawah]

For me, after years of study and practice in Zen, Yoga, Vedanta, Wicca, shamanism, etc. etc. there was still so much missing, even though I had had direct spiritual experiences. It was all too clear to me that patriarchy was still very much alive and well in spiritual traditions. A lot of what was missing there I was able to find in women's groups, but I still felt far from having the whole picture, or from feeling whole; the Divine Feminine is just as incomplete without the Divine Masculine as vice versa. It seemed to me that I had a lot of backtracking to do. But to my surprise and contrary to my expectations, I had to become a "conspiracy theorist" to fill in some of those missing gaps, though that brought me to a crisis of faith that necessitated an entire reassessment of spirituality itself.

Recently, shortly after I came across the info I quoted in post #1, I re-read the Project Camelot Wingmakers interview with James Mahu:https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/themes/wingmaker/style/dark/pdffiles/Project%20Camelot%20Interview.pdf
It made a lot of sense the first time I read it years ago, but this time, it sunk in, partly because I didn't get so tangled up in the semantics, but mostly I think because I was just a lot more ready to hear. It connected a lot of dots, and the core message is so self evident: we will not find what we are looking for in ANY teaching. But this is a good roadmap, imho.

Some excerpts from pages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ( bold letters my emphasis):

"God-Spirit-Soul Complex (GSSC) – This is the central element of the HMS that anchors separation. The individualized human being, free of the HMS (Human Mind System), is called the Sovereign Integral in the WingMakers mythology. This is the true identity of each and every human being. In this model of the Sovereign Integral, we are Gods of our local multiverse, and collectively, we are First Source in the multiverse.
Why is GSSC the anchor of separation? We have two paths: Religion and Spirituality – eachbeing different sides of the same coin, and this “coin” is GSSC. Now, Anu, being the intelligent, clever entity that he is, knew that humans would evolve, and in this evolution they may begin to remember that they are Sovereign Integrals. Bear in mind that the Atlanteans were highly evolved beings before they donned the human instrument of Anu’s creation. Also remember that the human instrument is not simply the physical body but includes the emotions and HMS and that this human instrument is componentized so that while the physical body dies, a higher dimensional body or sheath that is based on the physical body carries on.
Some refer to this as the soul, others refer to it as the astral body, but it is simply a sheath for the Sovereign Integral to operate within and it remains subject to the HMS and most of its programming. Thus, even upon death, the Sovereign Integral is not released from the influences of the HMS or the human instrument’s programs.
The Anunnaki created the HMS in order to consign the Sovereign Integral – the true Self that is infinite and eternal – into a prison of conjured illusions and deceptions. So the human instrument was fitted with HMS and the Sovereign Integral was placed within it as the life force, that which powered the human instrument. An aspect of GSSC was the program we call the fear of death, the fear of separation, the fear of non-existence. It was this fear, so powerfully felt by humans, that gave rise to the construct of a separate God, from which a separate Spirit filled the universe, and from which we were all created in
separation. Whether one arrives to God through religion or spirituality, does not matter, it is the same effect of appeasing the fear of death within the individual just as the program specified. In effect, Anu, the King of Anunnaki, positioned himself to be God of the human world.The pathway to God, independent of the religion or spiritual path one walked, had the same
program underlying it: You are a human with a soul, this soul must be redeemed or activated,upon which you will be saved. In this process of being saved, you are relinquished of self responsibility to the world condition. You are rewarded with a life eternal in the kingdom of God(by whatever name you call God) where you can live in bliss and/or serve as a teacher of the light.
The savior/master construct is an integral part of the GSSC, and encourages human beings to yearn for a master to teach them how to ascend, how to be saved, how to achieve nirvana, how to live a moral life, and how to ensure eternal happiness. There are masters of great wisdom and light who remain within the domain of the HMS without knowing their involvement. The subtlety is so powerful that even when you feel you have achieved self-realization you remain
trapped in the HMS. It is that vast, especially when compared to the material world.
Saviors can take on the form of many things, including the second coming of Christ, a wrathful God, the Earth, nature spirits, angelic hosts, prophecy, and extraterrestrial forces who will intercede on humanity’s behalf. Each of us is our own and only savior, our only master who can truly cause us to stand-up within ourselves and shut down the suppression systems and awaken to their Sovereign Integral consciousness. This is the liberation path and this will be discussed in answers that follow.
In essence, GSSC is an aspect of HMS that perpetuates separation. Just as different languages separate, different religious and spiritual pathways separate the human family, and make possible a race that is more easily controlled and pacified through the GSSC.
Death Stress Implant Network Detour (DSIND) – As its long title suggests, DSIND is the descent into humanness and the tether of custody to the material world. Within the solar plexus region of the human instrument is the DSIND module of HMS. This gets a little complicated because you have to look at HMS as the master network, and then there are nodes or implants that plug into HMS. One of these is DSIND, and while it is anchored in the solar plexus, it is an intricate
network that develops exponentially upward into the heart, neck, and head regions. This is an etheric structure that collects, absorbs, and distributes fear, anxiety, stress, and restlessness. While the fear of the future dominates this module – from a programming perspective – Anu was careful to connect it to the primal fear of death and non-existence. DSIND creates much of the dysfunction in the human family in terms of its behavioral deficiencies. It also activates humans for service in religion and spirituality paths.
Polarity System (PS) – This is a sub-node of DSIND designed to create polarities in the HMS and thus create friction between the polarities, and from this friction manifest discord and disharmony. If you exist in HMS (and you do), then you exist in polarity. It is truly that simple. Polarity is what activates and feeds the HMS. It is the “food” of HMS because in polarity the human instrument is lost in separation, which is precisely the point of HMS as intended by its designers."
"Genetic Manipulation System (GMS) – This system was an outgrowth of various
interdimensional races working to create a suitable instrument for accessing the physical world.
It was Anu who specifically wanted to not only access the physical world in order to exploit itsresources, but to do so by suppressing the infinite beings that would power the human instruments so he had the equivalent of willing slaves. Yes, infinite beings can be suppressed into finite beings when they are subjected to HMS. In the course of engineering the human instrument, it was decided to create GMS as a means to modify the human instrument over time, as it evolved, to ensure it would never achieve self-realization or the Sovereign Integral state of awareness. The state of satori, nirvana, cosmic consciousness, enlightenment, and rapture were all different names for heightened states within the GSSC, which was still within the HMS domain, but these became checkpoints that triggered GMS interventions. The true state of the Sovereign Integral – even after death of the
human instrument – was never realized by a member of the human family until very recently.
Wholeness Navigator – This is the element of HMS that activates the individual’s authentic search for God in the context of wholeness, oneness, unity, and equality. Some people undertake this search because they feel an obligation to do this as a means to appease the expectations of their parents, spouse, or their own sense of guilt. The authentic search, as decreed by the Wholeness Navigator, is a recent bypass that has been brought into the human instrument through GMS, which is an open system. While it is still an artifact of the HMS, it is a backdoor into the liberation path.
Post-Death System (PDS) – This is the system where the individual, upon death of their physical body, is greeted by guides “on the other side” and review their life experience, confronting those areas of deficiency and returning to right the wrongs of their previous life, in other words, karma and reincarnation. The PDS is the means by which the Sovereign Integral remains in the grip of illusion even though the illusion is a heightened reality when compared to physical existence on the earth plane. It enables the recycling of the Sovereign Integral into physical
dimensions over and over again."
"The seeking of information is over. The seeking of a master, guru, religion, spiritual path, or wayshower is over. The seeking of objects of blame is over. The seeking of hidden information behind the dark forces is over. It is the expression of the Sovereign Integral consciousness and the deactivation of the suppression framework that becomes the focus of each individual in this new era."

From pages 16 & 17: "Answer 7 from James: To understand ascension it is necessary to understand its origins. The concept of ascension arose out of division and disconnection. Religion conceived that Source or God was outside the Self, living in some remote dimension of space, fully separated from the human condition. Human beings were not really worthy of God, but religion, in its self-enlightened state, gave humans the concept of faith. By having faith, God will come down and save you from the human condition, provided, of course, that you have faith and apply His commandments.
Ascension came along, not so much from religion, but rather spiritual-mystic sources, and posited that humans did not need to be passive in the application of faith, but rather they could ascend to the Source. In other words, instead of waiting for God to come to you, you could go to God. Humans, under the proper tutelage of masters could learn how to ascend and attain the Godhood, and become a master of their own, serving God and His universe as an emissary of
the Light.
Religion and spirituality really had the same idea, the only difference was that religion used passive faith while spirituality used active practices. The First Point of ascension is the yearning for a Source outside the Self, hence division and disconnection. Any First Point that begins in separation is pulled into the Human Mind System’s gravitational field and is lost in the deceptions therein.
Thus, ascension is not an aspect of the Sovereign Integral state. As written in my previous answer, you are here and always have been and always will be. There is no where to go outside of yourself to find yourself or God or Light or enlightenment or ascension. Look at it this way, if you are self-contained, if the Sovereign Integral is indeed within you at all times, then where exactly do you need to ascend? It is realization, not ascension. And realization has, as its First
Point, the unconditional oneness, equality and truthfulness of Self in all life expressions. While ascension’s First Point is: I am not equal to my Source, my Source is outside of me therefore I need to ascend to it in order to become a greater being more worthy of love and light.
Ascension is of the teacher-student ordering of the universe, residing within HMS. It defines the subtle aspects of self-deception that are caught-up in the spiritual belief systems of Earth and the interdimensional planes as well. If you believe you are in the process of ascending, ask yourself the questions: Where I am ascending to? How do I know that that endpoint is not of the Human Mind System? Are my mental pictures of ascension based on my own experience or have they been downloaded from the information and knowledge systems of humanity – in the
other words, the unconscious domain?
All of the energy, efforts, attention and learning that are placed on the ascension process are a diversion from your own realization of the Sovereign Integral. It is as if you have pursued a shadow in favor of the substance. The ascension pathway is ensconced in the comforts of gurus and masters – both physical and interdimensional – that supposedly support your journey into the Light and Love of God. Along this journey you see how it absolves you of responsibility related to this world’s real conditions of hunger, inequality, rape, war, abuse, servitude, illness, racism and a hundred other maladies. The absolution comes in the form of your journey itself.
The diversion. The separation.
Realization of the Sovereign Integral consciousness is realization of one’s True Self as present in everyone else. You see the condition of the human family as your own, and your condition as one with everyone else. You are in the moment, engaged in the dismantling of the HMS, knowing that as you do this, you are invoking the Sovereign Integral consciousness to manifest on Earth in a human instrument where there is complete and unconditional transparency and therefore expansion."

Some of the beautiful Wingmaker paintings:
http://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Books-graphic.png

[lunaflare]

"ascension" is often linked with awakening; a greater awareness of interconnectedness.

[greybeard]

That was good find onawah.
For myself I see it simple--
Non duality no separation.
Self Realization is the realization I am "That" there is no separation.
Teachers can only point, the Self is already eternal.
The individual me is an illusion.
All is as water seen by a thirsty person in the desert --a mirage.
A mirage is real but not water not what is seen to be.
The world of separation --of duality is not what it seems to be.
People appear to be free to believe what they want but according to the wingmakers that freedom is an illusion--if I understand the text properly.

Chris

[Bubu]

I read this wingmakers many years ago. I dont think I comprehend it fully but I remember it says its "the Breath" that counts.

[onawah]

Yes, the kind of spiritual freedom that has generally been described and arrived at up until recently is in fact, according to the Wingmaker material, actually a part of the illusion (although of course, much more rarefied than the mainstream consciousness).
The state of awareness Wingmakers aims at is actually something new to the human race at this juncture of evolution. It's not about escaping into blissful states.
There is a specific breathing technique that is recommended, but I believe that probably comes naturally once the "leap" to understanding is made that finally takes one completely "out of the box".


People appear to be free to believe what they want but according to the wingmakers that freedom is an illusion--if I understand the text properly.
Chris

I read this wingmakers many years ago. I dont think I comprehend it fully but I remember it says its "the Breath" that counts.

[greybeard]

The enlightenment now being described by Mooji and others is not about blissful states--there is no individual person left to claim enlightenment--or anything else --it is total realization of Truth --one consciousness.
The book" I am That" by Nasargadatta is one of the clearest.

Chris

[onawah]

I would like for this thread to chart a different course than the thread on enlightenment, and chart more as yet largely unexplored territory.
My OP was thorough in describing what for me is sacred for both women and men, and I don't want to limit anything to gender, but I would also like to avoid gurus entirely.
There may be some who really are outside the box, but for me there are too many traps and blind spots that gurus generally don't get past, where those who follow them so often seem to get stuck.
I think there are original, unconventional, unpredictable ways to explore the subject, and that is what I am seeking, even at the risk of not having much discussion at all.
Thank you.
I may request a change of title for the thread to make it more inclusive and not gender specific, but I haven't decided yet what that might be.

The enlightenment now being described by Mooji and others is not about blissful states--there is no individual person left to claim enlightenment--or anything else --it is total realization of Truth --one consciousness.
The book" I am That" by Nasargadatta is one of the clearest.

Chris

[greybeard]

Yes its true that people get stuck following gurus.
Technique is notorious for taking people away from truth--even breathing ones.
Also what we are in neither male nor female but it is all different levels of perception.
We appear to be human but we are not as we inhabit a human body.
Im open minded but teaching that comes from Christ or mystics I would not dismiss.

Respectfully Chris

[greybeard]

Dusty Springfield - YOU DON'T OWN ME
a Divine singer.

Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTQfyY48HRs

[Pam]

sorry double posted....

[Pam]

I know the word enlightenment is greatly overused and has multiple meanings but at the moment I don't have a better word. First of all I don't see enlightenment and ascension as the same thing. I do see that ascension relies on something outside of self to complete the process. In really simple terms I see enlightenment as the process of dusting oneself off, of dropping the clutter that distracts and consumes.. it is the process of allowing the pure consciousness that is within the freedom from the shackles and consumption of mind. It is not relying on an outside source to do it, it is self realization. I do agree at the end of the day we must rely on the inner guru or higher self.

I believe we are in a time of ultimate corruption and that could include many gurus and alleged spiritual leaders. If one uses writings to seek spiritual pointers, it can't be done blindly and obediently without observation. I do believe we are coming into the time of relying on the higher self rather than the words of other men or women. The sad thing is that so many will not be able to recognize that they have that higher self. Personally, I don't look to a goal of perfect bliss, I am content with the process of letting go of the egoic self and baggage that comes with it. For me it is a ongoing process. I am very grateful to those that have pointed the way. I also experience in the here and now the benefit of my practices.

[onawah]

Nor do I, but I think there must be an evolution to "spirituality" ( another misused word) as we ourselves evolve, and it is that next step I am interested in exploring.


Im open minded but teaching that comes from Christ or mystics I would not dismiss.

Respectfully Chris

There are new and different perspectives from which to view the problem of our unawareness of who we really are. I posted something here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105284-What-happened-to-Omni&p=1263275&viewfull=1#post1263275
which Avalonians who took part in the Pub at the End of the Universe thread
( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42360-Welcome-to-The-Pub-At-the-End-of-the-Universe.&highlight=pub+at+the+end+of+the+universe )
...will recognize more readily than others, but the idea of a kind of virus (originating from AI perhaps) which infects and renders us spiritually unconscious is an example.
The Wingmaker explanation of our dilemma gives a more wholistic perspective, but any exploration witha fresh perspective can be helpful, I think.

[greybeard]

It might seem I have a foot in both camps but I would like to believe that there is an evolving of human consciousness.
I do not dismiss what Dolores Cannon was talking about.
In the human relam all thing are possible.
Who knows where any of this is going onawah?
I can but hope.
Change is needed.

Chris

[Smell the Roses]

A bunch of us have been thrown off kilter by opposite sex individuals acting in a non-divine way. Then we might compensate for that and get off-kilter ourselves. Whereas in reality the best way to heal others and ourselves is to maintain the divine gifts within ourselves regardless of how others act.

[Vangelo]

... the Divine Feminine is just as incomplete without the Divine Masculine as vice versa...

Mirela Bitoi is extraordinarily articulate and your comment "... the Divine Feminine is just as incomplete without the Divine Masculine as vice versa..." is the guiding principle we should all incorporate into our lives.

[onawah]

I have to start with the Divine Feminine on my spiritual path, because it has always felt like that was what was missing in religion and spirituality for me.
There are of course, lots of gurus and teachings that extol the value of the Divine Feminine and perhaps there always were, but as long as we are living in a primarily patriarchal, hierarchical world, things will be out of balance and disharmonious.
Brought up in Christianity, for me, the word "God" always referred to a male deity, and later, as I sought my own definition of divinity, the word "Goddess" still only expressed the principles that seemed to be missing. Finally, I came to feel like something of an atheist or perhaps more accurately, a pantheist; deities had just become symbols, not actual entities to me.
So the ideas that the Wingmakers material expresses make sense to me, though I have some different ideas about the age and origins of the human race, because Lemuria is never mentioned, or Lyra, or the Reptilian Wars, or the Draconians, or AI -- in the history according to the Dr. Neruda interview, which skips ahead a great deal to Anu's role on Earth.
What makes sense to me is the idea that Anu decided he wanted to become the God of our planet, and since his reality was patriarchal and hierarchical, his design for our 3D religions and spirituality followed the same pattern.
(Although Mahu's prediction that the current paradigm is now collapsing agrees with other prophecies, such as that of the Mayans, and some of the truth of these matters have always bled through the illusion from souls such as Jesus, Buddha, etc., though the messages have become somewhat distorted or misunderstood or hidden over time.
Following is an excerpt from The Fifth Interview of Dr. Neruda, pages 16-22
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf

"Sarah: “It doesn’t feel like good news.

“This was all part of the design, to create various religions and esoteric cults that would support a vast Hierarchy and order the human species into master-student relationships, and then create a multi-leveled afterlife that would reward those who believed and were obedient to their god or masters.
“You see, the whole principle that was behind this entire endeavor could be summed up in one word: separation. Everything exists in separation within the earth plane and its afterlife planes as well. But, according to the WingMakers, what is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness—not through the unconscious mind, which only links us in separation, but rather through the life essence that is us. And this life essence is sovereign and integral. It is I AM WE ARE. No one is above, no one is below. No one is better, no one is lesser.”
Sarah: “But you’re saying everything is a lie? Everything… I mean everything we’ve been taught to believe in is a deception! How is that possible… or … or even believable?”
Dr. Neruda: “It’s possible because the beings that have enslaved humanity designed a world to which we adjusted over eons of time. We evolved into it in such a manner that we became lost in our world. The veils that have been placed over us are opaque. So much so that people operate as human uniforms unaware that everything around them is illusory. It is a programmed reality that is not real.
“The WingMakers say everything is simply sound, holographically organized to look real.”
Sarah: “It’s depressing…”
Dr. Neruda: “Only when you consider the scope of the deception and the way in which humanity has allowed it to rule their behaviors. The good news is that you’re hearing about this now.”Dr. Neruda: “Each person can step out of the illusion. There is no master here. No god is going to come down and make it happen for us. No ETs. No one. It is each of us. This is what is meant by I AM. I… it’s like One. One—me, and one—all of us unified. AM, meaning exist now. In this moment. Not in history or memory. Not in some future time or goal. Now!”
Sarah: “It doesn’t feel real to me. I was raised a Christian. I have no reason to believe that Jesus was an inside… agent for this plan of deception—”
Dr. Neruda: “I’m not saying he was. Many of those who have come to earth as humanteachers have tried to reveal how deep and broad and high this illusion has been made. It is as far as the edge of the universe and as close as your DNA. Everywhere in between is illusion. Jesus came to reveal much of this, but the writers of the Bible decided what would be acceptable within the paradigm of life as we humanly know it. They elected to make Jesus a part of the deception. They saw it was time for a redefinition of God to accommodate an evolving Human 2.0. God was suddenly a loving father, and all of humanity was brother and
sister.”
Sarah: “So you’re saying Jesus was aware of this deception, but his words weren’t included in the Bible?”
Dr. Neruda: “Our opinion was that his words were so against the conditioned beliefs that people could not understand them as he said them. And so, over time, they were translated into the form you know them today. The Biblical translations simply lack the original potency with which he said them.
“Besides, there are two methods that can make exposing this illusion a very difficult proposition.”
Sarah: “What do you mean?”
Dr. Neruda: “The first is that the unconscious mind system is inside everyone. It’s like a field of information that everyone can access. It can affect or infect everyone. A revelatory idea can be passed to a small number of people, but it lacks sufficient influence to generate massawakening. So there’s unconscious mind inertia.
“The other, and this is more pernicious, is that the functional implants are programmed, and like any program, they can be upgraded or even turned off.”
Sarah: “As I listen to this… story, I… I feel a little overwhelmed at how to proceed with theinterview. I’m not sure what to ask or what direction to take things. If I look at my notes, I see my handwritten note: ‘there is no God,’ is this really what you’re saying?”
Dr. Neruda: “The WingMakers refer to the triad of consciousness as having the god
consciousness installed within it—in the unconscious mind layer. But they also report that as the individual develops from about the age of six or seven, they begin to assemble their individual personality from the elements of the subconscious layer. By the time they’re twelve to fourteen years old, they have their unique personality well in place. For some, this uniqueness is shutting out the existence of a god.
“From Anu’s perspective, this is fine. He probably likes having atheists and agnostics. It’s more separation. More diversity. In fact, the greater the diversity in the human family, the greater the separation. The greater the separation, the easier it is to keep the program of enslavement intact. Choose sides and disagree with your opponents. Compete. It fuels wars and social unrest.
“As for the existence of god, we, collectively, are the closest thing to god. We are. That’s the clear message of the WingMakers. There is a First Source, a center point in existence that created the framework of existence through sound—”
Sarah: “But what about the ones who are enlightened or spiritual masters—they’re all madeup?”
Dr. Neruda: “No, it’s not that they’re made up. They exist. It’s just that their existence is within the human interface or functional implants. They exist there. We, us, the being that is I AM, that being is not of that reality. It doesn’t really exist inside the holographic stage that was created by interdimensional beings millions of years ago; rather, it is being used as a power source that animates the human interface or uniform. Over time, we’ve spiraled deeper and deeper inside of this created world, complete with its afterlife and different planes of existence.
“You could look at it this way: Anu installed a program inside the Human 2.0 and in this program, humans would evolve from knowing absolutely nothing about their world, to knowing god. Humans were designed to have god consciousness—meaning, to have the same understanding and awareness as Anu. But then Anu took this evolutionary line and positioned god consciousness so far out into the future that humans would essentially be chasing this god consciousness forever. They’d be chasing shadows, because until they awaken from the deception, the only god that exists in that world is Anu.
“Once awakened as I AM WE ARE or the Sovereign Integral, a human being lives as an expression of this consciousness. According to the WingMakers, no one has achieved this at this time. It is, however, our future to live in this consciousness in a human instrument.”
Sarah: “No one has done this… you mean anywhere?”
Dr. Neruda: “On this plane, earth, no one has done this. But remember, the WingMakers are human in a future time. They have returned to our time to crack this shell open a bit. They have traveled to our time to remind us of what they discovered. They left this enslavement, so we will do it.”
Sarah: “But you already said that spacetime is an illusion.”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s true. It is, but it’s hard to imagine that the universe in which we exist is really a hologram projection that was programmed inside our unconscious mind and we’re really inside this hologram, wearing a human uniform that was outfitted to perceive only this hologram. The WingMakers say that the real world is sound. Everything is sound and resonance of sound. Everything we have in our human uniform for sensing our universe is millions of years of evolutionary design to tune into that hologram and only that hologram.”
Sarah: “How does that hologram extend beyond this physical world then? You said even the afterlife is part of it?”
Dr. Neruda: “There are many aspects to the afterlife. There is god, first and foremost. There is the Light of illumination. There is the universal spirit and individual soul. There is a Hierarchy of angels and masters. There is the concept of karma and reincarnation or sin and salvation. The concept of heaven and hell. The concept of the chosen. The concept of an ascension path. The concept of the Book of Records or Akashic records. All of these concepts were designed into an upgrade of the Human 2.0 interface. Certain human beings are programmed to find these concepts in their unconscious mind layer and share them. As a result, religions sprout. Philosophies rise sometimes in support of the religions, sometimes in
contradiction. Esoteric cults rise. All the while the human being remains lost. It remains muddled in its illusion. Everything tied to an empty promise in a belief, and in all those beliefs, one thing remains constant: separation.
“The program is vast in its reach, and the Anunnaki, once they had mined sufficient gold, had an entire race of beings enslaved. Anu, along with his allies in the Sirian and Serpent races, decided it would be best to turn the Human 2.0s into a worthless creature that forever sought enlightenment through belief. And who do you suppose would provide the things to believe
in? Anu and Marduk.
“Everything became learning lessons. The earth was a school house. If you learn your lessons, you won’t have to keep incarnating. Learn, learn, learn. But what are you learning? You are learning to believe in the afterlife, as it was described and prescribed by Anu and his designers. You are learning to don your human uniform obediently. You are learning to discern how humanity is different. You are learning to link every self-image you have to the world of three dimensions,
while hoping there is more after death.
“The sober reality is that after you die, the being inside you is met by a guardian who will take you to your destination, based mostly on your deeds in this life. However, most beings are taken to a life review where you face your life in every detail, and based on that experience an authoritative figure will prescribe your next life options for reincarnation. You are essentially recycled into the same program with a new mother and family, and a programmed life path is
laid out for you to follow.
“The afterlife program and process is all part of the master program to retain the enslavement of the beings. Remember, we’re interdimensional beings—meaning we exist in 3-D and the higher planes. It’s just that these higher planes are designed by the Anunnaki. They are not of the real dimensional planes. Otherwise, we would die, discover who we really are, and we would never reincarnate or if we did, we would tell everyone on earth that this is all an illusion.
”Sarah: “Why? Why do it this way? It doesn’t make sense.”
Dr. Neruda: “What began as an experiment in three-dimensional exploration from a higherd dimensional reality became what is here. Every human being will confront this reality eventually. It cannot be avoided. We can agonize about the lack of fairness or ask why, but whether it makes sense to you doesn’t change the fact that we live in a world of designedseparation. Divide and conquer.
“The WingMakers write of the tone-vibration of equality. (Dr. Neruda pulled out some papers at this point.) Here’s the exact choice of words by the WingMakers: ‘When all manifestations of life are genuinely perceived as fragmentary expressions of First Source, the vibration of equality that underlies all life forms becomes perceptible to the human instrument. Life initially emerges as an extension of Source Reality, and then, as an individuated energy frequency
invested within a form. It vibrates, in its pure, timeless state, precisely the same for all manifestations of life. This is the common ground that all life shares. This is the tone-vibration of equality that can be observed within all life forms that unifies all expressions of diversity to the foundation of existence known as First Source.’”
Sarah: “It’s so abstract. How does it help?”
Dr. Neruda: “Maybe it doesn’t. I don’t know. But the thing is, to change, to step out of this illusion, it requires each of us to wake up and stay awake. It’s not reading words that will change this; it’s the profound nature of new behaviors, because these behaviors signal that our consciousness layers are understood as separate from who we really are. We have to operate as I AM WE ARE.”
Sarah: “Where does the Incunabula5 or Illuminati belong in this narrative?”
Dr. Neruda: “I’ll answer that later. I want to continue the story a little further.”
Sarah: “Okay.”
Dr. Neruda: “Human 2.0s and earth continue to densify. We become increasingly three dimensional. We are actually denser now than we have ever been—in terms of physicality. There was a time, about forty years ago, when we thought alien races were actually leaving spaceships behind on purpose, but what we discovered, more recently, is that most of the aliens were not physical beings. They were observing earth, and their spaceships actually became entrained by the gravitational circuits of the earth’s core, which caused their spaceships to materialize in three-dimensional space. Because many of the materials used in
the ships’ construction had chemical properties, they were prone to densification when exposed to earth’s atmosphere.”
Sarah: “You mentioned the earth’s core as being the cause of all of this, what’s so special about it?
Dr. Neruda: “The magnetic fields associated with earth’s core are unique. They are, in the words of the WingMakers, ‘alive.’ We can only assume that alive is an aspect of intelligence.
“The point in this, however, is that everything’s densifying. It is compressing. It is
compressing for a reason: the old systems can fall in unison when density reaches a certain critical mass. And that is what will happen.”
Sarah: “When?”
Dr. Neruda: “All I can say is that it is soon. I don’t want dates and times associated with it—”
Sarah: “But do you know?”
Dr. Neruda: “We know a range.”
Sarah: “More than ten years?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “More than twenty (years)?”
Dr. Neruda: “All I will say is that the WingMakers term for this is SIN, or the Sovereign Integral Network. SIN is the definition of the new system. They said it can come in an instant once the right conditions are in place. What is unclear is how SIN develops after The Grand Portal and Human 3.0.”
Sarah: “That’s the first time you’ve mentioned Human 3.0. What is it?”
Dr. Neruda: “If human beings are trapped in a prison of illusion, as Human 2.0s, and their interface to the holographic universe is the reason for their being trapped, then a new model needs to step forward. Human 3.0 is this new model. It is the formula of self-realization. It is stepping out of the constructed universe or reality, and living as a self-expression of I AM WE ARE. Human 3.0 is the Sovereign Integral. I call it Human 3.0 SI.
“You see, The Grand Portal is a way to synchronize humanity to a new inception point where it is living in the expression of oneness and equality, sovereign and integral, I AM and WE ARE. It is a way for humanity to move from separation—which was its previous inception point, the one that generated Human 1.0 and 2.0. Human 3.0 SI will have a new inception point, and the reason for The Grand Portal was to enable synchronization, because how can you have a network of equality and oneness if the beings were not synchronized?”
Sarah: “What is soul, then?”
Dr. Neruda: “Soul is an idea or paradigm that has become part of the human reality program. Soul is the part of you that contains all memory of your existence as a Human 1.0 and 2.0. For
most of us, this is a vast repository—far too large for the consciousness framework to deal
with. So the soul holds this information for each individual being.
“Soul is a paradigm of infinite expression within a finite reality. But you can’t be infinite in a finite reality if that reality is a programmed reality. So soul is not the life force that powers the human consciousness. That is the Sovereign Integral. That is what each of us is when we are stripped naked of all illusion, of all deceptions, of all limitations, of all veils, of all functional implants—including the soul.
“It is the redefinition of human identity and expression as I AM WE ARE. From a human perspective, the WingMakers do not see humans as lesser entities, but simply beings with inception points that enslaved them. It is not a judgment that humans are worthless or bad or sinful or weak or needy. None of those things. Humanity needs a new start. A point in which they can synchronize in one realization, and that is the expression of I AM WE ARE. Living those words as behavior.”
Sarah: “Where’s the creator of Anu… the real God? How can we be allowed to live and operate in this kind of deception?”
Dr. Neruda: “The WingMakers talk about the transformation/mastership model… hold on.
(Dr. Neruda went to a page among his folders.) This is how they put it: ‘The time has come to integrate the dominant model of the Hierarchy (evolution/saviorship) with the dominant model of Source Intelligence (transformation/mastership). This integration can only be achieved at the level of the entity. It cannot occur within the context of a human instrument or an aspect of the Hierarchy. Only the entity—the wholeness of inter-dimensional sovereignty imbued with Source Intelligence—can facilitate and fully experience the integration of these two models of existence.’”
Sarah: “So what does that have to do with my question?”
Dr. Neruda: “Each individual being is responsible for this. God or Source Intelligence isn’t going to come down from the heavens and correct human faults or obstacles. Humans need to take responsibility for this—”
Sarah: “But seriously, how? We’re wrapped in so many layers of deception—”
Dr. Neruda: “It’s not easy. The WingMakers write about the heart virtues as the behavioral construct for this time, and how these words can be applied and lived, not simply held in the head as a worthy concept.”
Sarah: “I don’t think you’ve mentioned these before. What are they?”
Dr. Neruda: “Appreciation or gratitude, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding and valor or courage. It is the combination of nowness—being in the now—and applying these words in our behaviors. It’s being impeccable in this practice.” "

[petra]

...But you can’t be infinite in a
finite reality if that reality is a programmed reality.

This made me laugh. Ain't that the truth....

Oneness is our greatest strength, and I think that's why this "separation business" is really striking chords with me.

I've recently developed a new kind of (respect?) for doctors of all kinds. What I see is the how thankful people are, and it melts my heart. Sometimes the information or help is priceless.

[5th]

Whilst it is true that men have given women a hard time I think women need to realise and accept their responsibility in this state of affairs. It is yet another circle of abuse that 'starts' (a circle has no real beginning) with mothers taking out their conscious and subconscious anger at men on their male children. It's all very well for women to complain that men treat them badly but who raised them to be this way?

Most boys are emasculated by their mothers and then grow up resenting women and so the circle continues. In fact, the whole of 'normal' parenting produces damaged children of both sexes.

A mother who has come into her 'Divine Feminine' will empower her male offspring who will grow up to respect, honour and love women.

[petra]

Whilst it is true that men have given women a hard time I think women need to realise and accept their responsibility in this state of affairs. It is yet another circle of abuse that 'starts' (a circle has no real beginning) with mothers taking out their conscious and subconscious anger at men on their male children. It's all very well for women to complain that men treat them badly but who raised them to be this way?

Most boys are emasculated by their mothers and then grow up resenting women and so the circle continues. In fact, the whole of 'normal' parenting produces damaged children of both sexes.

A mother who has come into her 'Divine Feminine' will empower her male offspring who will grow up to respect, honour and love women.

My darling 5th, I do believe women might be entirely to blame. And if that's true, on behalf of the nice ones, we're sorry.

I see what's happening to boys. My brother is one of them. He's so confused, and I know when it boils right down to it that he has a lot of issues with our mother (who is now deceased)

A good example of a mother who who has come into her "Divine Feminine" in my mind is David Blaine's mother. I remember him talking about his mother, and how she encouraged him in his dream to be an illusionist. Now his dreams have become a reality, and no matter how many people throw food at him, he's still "my hero". He never married though (yet!)

[onawah]

Jordan Peterson has given some talks about how difficult a transition we are in, moving into a society where women are becoming more powerful in the workplace, and he seems to have been making a lot of feminists really mad.
To me, it's just another sign of the overall meltdown that this paradigm will have to undergo before we reach our new starting post, wherever that is.

[petra]

Women can get a great many things, simply by showing men their boobs. I came across a whole thread about on some other forum, where the women were all comparing what their boobs have gotten them. One smarty pants got a guy to do her homework for an entire year.

This is not an attack against women or men, it's just a fact. To the men out there: Please please stop falling for this!! There's plenty of boobs to look at online.

[lunaflare]

Petra,

Women are not to blame for the violence in the world.
Women are not to blame for the violence perpetrated against them--emotional, physical and sexual.
"Blame the woman" is the most dangerous meme we have in our world culture and this much change.
Agreed, change must occur within the cultural psyche of all.

When women can believe in their inherent dignity and worth after centuries of subjugation--then the whole blame-shame cycle can shift. In indigenous traditions, it is the women who are the caretakers of the earth and of the spirit of children and men folk. Wisdom Keepers.
Yes, they are educators and teachers and yet their roles have been usurped. This is why they have fallen so short in terms of raising "good" children. And where are fathers in these posts of blame?
Change is required by all as cultural beliefs are deep-seated. But we as humans resist change...even though we say/think we don't.

Men need to step back to let women step forward. Patriarchy is real and has been in existence for thousands of years. Patience and understanding is required for the pendulum to swing back.

[shaberon]

A great deal of Buddhist Vajrayana is identical to Hindu Shakti cult, really, the Hindus received this from Buddhists, strongly oriented to Mother.

The way we express it is that reality is Androgyne, male and female are only bodies, there is ultimately no difference. Metaphysically, the female side is Wisdom itself, whereas the male side is the individual attaining Wisdom. All of our cosmologies originate in an Androgyne, and it is the goal of meditation. To do so, the woman is encouraged to strengthen her Pawo or inner male warrior, and vice versa for men, mostly. To me, if you say Divine Feminine, it just means what was attempted to be called in the West, Sophia, Shekinah, Holy Spirit. That never took off. I am not sure that an individual woman's psychology or behavior is the same thing as Sophia or Shakti. Like Merry Mom said, when someone acts non-divine, then, well, they definitely are not divine. It's a state of being, not a style or fashion that can be put on like a hat. On the other hand, if a person does become divine, this is not possible without Mother's help.

[greybeard]

Kundalini.
This is where the female aspect Shakti moves up the spine to join the male aspect Shiva.
The two unite and enlightenment "happens"
Self moves up from the heart cave--the Third eye is opened--etc
In this it would seem that enlightenment is not possible or at least unlikely to happen without the female aspect promoting it.
Barry Long who promoted Tantric meditation of the male and female in union and also Barry Prior claimed if I remember correctly that their full awakening was the result of this practise.
The Microcosmic orbit may be a helpful practise.

Chris

[petra]

Kundalini.
This is where the female aspect Shakti moves up the spine to join the male aspect Shiva.
The two unite and enlightenment "happens"


Maybe that's where Battlestar Galactica got the idea for the Cylon's spine to glow red when they were having intercourse. The Cylon's designed themselves to not be detectable by humans, so it's unlikely they would have designed their spines to glow. So the only other reasoning which there could be in the show is that their spines glow because they're "connecting" with the humans. As for the reasoning it's there in the first place, general consensus is, Hollywood put that special effect in because it "looked cool".

[onawah]

I've read another section of the Fifth Interview with Dr. Neruda, and I was very struck again by how different my impressions were from the first time I read it. It came out in 2014, I think, and that was probably when I first read it.
The section I've just finished, from page 22 to 30 is blowing my mind because I can see now how prophetic it was, foreseeing how things have progressed on the planet in the last 5 years with transhumanism, wifi, etc really being pushed on the public as part of Anu's plan to take complete control of humanity.

"Dr. Neruda" (fictional character) says that the Wingmakers will help humanity to escape that trap through scientific discoveries and the introduction of different technologies (presumably his prediction of the imminent scientific discovery proving the existence of the human soul is one of those).

Here is an excerpt from pages 26 & 27: "Sarah: “Okay… but Anu created Human 1.0 and then found them to be too similar to his own capabilities, and feared they would one day figure out that they were Atlanteans enslaved by the Anunnaki. And he was worried about the consequences of that discovery. So, he wiped them clean with a planetary flood.”
Dr. Neruda: “According to the WingMakers, the flood was one part of the extinction
program, but there were also nuclear weapons that were discharged on the planet—most of which have been explained away as meteorite impacts. But the WingMakers write that these were advanced weapons used against human populations that had avoided the flood.”
Sarah: “Okay. In whatever way Human 1.0s were eliminated from the planet, they were replaced by Human 2.0, and these included upgrades like self-reproduction and more advanced programming. And central to this programming was the notion that Anu was God and would return to his creation. Correct?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “And the next upgrade to Human 2.0 branches out like a fork in the road. One version of Human 3.0 goes down the path of technology integration… or transhumanism. The other version, 3.0 SI, is a more organic process of using behaviors to support this process of becoming a Human 3.0 or Sovereign Integral, and then becoming part of a network of these Sovereign Integrals. Is that correct?”
Dr. Neruda: “You have the general idea, yes.”
Sarah: “And the Triad of Power wants Human 3.0 to go down the path of technology integration, because that is how they are programmed… to emulate their god, Anu. Right?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “So it’s kind of like humanity sits at a crossroads. On the one side is the Triad of Power that is programmed to develop Human 3.0 as a… a cyborg, I guess, and the other side is the future existence of humanity urging us to do it internally, one person at a time, through a behavioral process. I guess the part that’s missing for me is the role of The Grand Portal,which remains unclear. I thought it was a technology that proved the existence… the irrefutable scientific existence of the human soul. How does that figure into this?”
Dr. Neruda: “There are humans here who are designers of the new unconscious mind that will bridge human populations everywhere on the planet to feel and express equality and oneness. It will connect humanity in the I AM WE ARE consciousness, instead of the separation consciousness. It will not be based on Hierarchy. That deception is coming down." "

Here is an excerpt from page 30:
" “We have been told there are trillions of planets with life. That the universe is abundant with life forms in various dimensions, but what we know is here. On earth. The tangible, visible earth. Are there other beings? Of course. I’ve seen them. Will they save humanity? They can’t.
They can only support. It isn’t about anyone or anything saving us. It is about a redefinition process that can only occur within each individual entity. It isn’t about being beamed up or ascending to some higher, protected dimension. This will be done in the physical body as human beings, by human beings, for human beings.” "

You can read all 5 interviews here: https://www.wingmakers.com/content/neruda-interviews/
Or listen to them here if you can stand mechanized voices: 2XM-uJy10ds

[onawah]

More here in another discussion that is overlapping somewhat: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105362-I-can-t-keep-up-any-more.-The-world-of-Future-Shock-is-already-here&p=1264102&viewfull=1#post1264102

[Rawhide68]

I praise the The Divine Masculine, common guys! we have stronger muscles, bigger brains, are smarter and way better to do practicly anything than Women.
Women are good at giving birth to our children, hmm and they are good at cooking (no not in general). well I can´t think of anything else they are better of to do than men can do , Ok I remeber Grandma´s cinmon buns.
My grandmom used to them when i was a very small child, I thought she must be devine to create them. It was just poring flour and stuff in a pot , in the oven, and it was no divininity.

Of course I´m joking, but as silly it is there is a grain of truth to it. Male & Female are equale Yin & Yan.


Yin and yang can be thought of as complementary (rather than opposing) forces that interact to form a dynamic system in which the whole is greater than the assembled parts. According to this philosophy, everything has both yin and yang aspects (for instance, shadow cannot exist without light)

ETy2AIkBoSk

Pay attention at 4:30! He hides his one eye holding up the bun shaped like this
https://www.mamamia.com.au/pedophile-symbols/

"saying that is where the magic is !

Not just that , he sprinkles the buns with his seeds in the end.
Not in the reciepe, what the f i going on here?

[shaberon]

Kundalini.
This is where the female aspect Shakti moves up the spine to join the male aspect Shiva.
The two unite and enlightenment "happens"
Self moves up from the heart cave--the Third eye is opened--etc
In this it would seem that enlightenment is not possible or at least unlikely to happen without the female aspect promoting it.
Barry Long who promoted Tantric meditation of the male and female in union and also Barry Prior claimed if I remember correctly that their full awakening was the result of this practise.
The Microcosmic orbit may be a helpful practise.

Chris

Yes. The way we have it in Buddhism is a little different. The name Shakti is not used, even though that is what is meant. For the most part, we do it purely mentally and by the use of Mantra, divine syllables and phrases, which means Manas (mind) plus Tra (protect). We do not much use the physical or Hatha Yoga methods of specialized breathing and other disciplines, this can be dangerous. We would agree that the male aspect normally resides in the head, but it also descends.

I do not really know how the Saktas train, but they are still established across Nepal and the trans-Himalayan states. Kashmir's Shiva tantra is fading away, and the other branches were gone a long time ago, only the Sri and Kali lineages are around any more, and a few Vaisnavas. Buddhism is both Sri and Kali, and more or less technically the same as Hindu tantra, it did not invent reality, what it invented is a method. This specifically states that Buddha's Enlightenment is a degree higher than the older yogas: their goal is Liberation, to stop reincarnating, but Buddhist tantra is Mahayana which results in Complete Full Manifestation. The Mahayana goddess is Prajnaparamita, or Infinite Perfection of Wisdom. The Vaisnavas managed to copy tantra around the 1600s as "Sahaja", about a millenium late to the party, and, well, they still like to talk about a Big "He".

I have to recommend Prajnaparamita personally, since the only thing that is noteworthy about me was a relatively ignorant awakening of Kundalini which went on for about six years until I was able to force it to stop. I'm talking drive on the highway and get white outs kinds of things, along with mental and personal problems. Shakti is just power and has no problem burning you away. That is why we train a balance of the male aspect in order to restrain her. Anyway, that is why I talk about these things like clinical facts.

[onawah]

Reality is a hologram
That theory, which the Wingmakers material also posits, is corroborated by science. The idea that the localized hologram we live in in this part of the Universe was created by Anu is an ever harder theory to digest, though at this point, it seems anything is possible!
But it's interesting to consider the possibility that these new scientific theories about our reality being a hologram may be part of the scientific discoveries that the Wingmakers material predicted would lead to humanity finding their way out of the synthetic hologram Anu created to entrap us.
The better scientists understand holograms, the more likely they will be able to see the nature of one that has entrapped us.
From an article posted by Nine here:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1264275&viewfull=1#post1264275
"Ancient Aliens is a show that is often painful to watch yet is a necessity for any serious student of human history. The show has by far its finest moment in its decade long existence when it proposes that the Aborigines concept of the dreamtime matches a leading edge property of String Theory called the “Holographic paradigm.”5

There are tears in the fabric of Man’s reality that upon scrutiny open to abysses of darkness. Quantum entanglement as been proven over and over again in laboratories whose annual budget would bankrupt a small country.
Einstein was wrong and his precious “particles” do react with each other by some mechanism that travels faster than light. Anyone who’s ever had a premonition should have known that…
In the Holographic universe, quantum entanglement the enigma of superluminal interaction between particles –what a baffled Einstein called “spooky action at a distance,” petulantly denying its existence in the face of all the evidence (even then) 6 – is easily explained. What are being observed in particle physics are not particles at all, but different aspects of interference patterns generated by the collision of spherical frequency waves emanating from an Event Horizon.
The Holographic paradigm postulates, in fact takes it as a given, that at the threshold of the time-space continuum, what physicists call the cosmological horizon, lay the source of everything that is, ever was, or will be.
The information that composes the universe is never lost or changed. It’s immutable and is broadcast in oscillating signals, generating a chaotic sea of fluctuating frequencies that are picked up by mans senses and translated by the mind into the three dimensional world in which he finds himself.

In short, consciousness takes place inside a frequency receiver and “reality” is a television show…
The empirical evidence is overwhelming that the human brain works in the exact same manner as a hologram. This is called the Holonomic brain theory by neuroscientists. Many just cannot accept its implications. But its founder Karl Pribram, who held professorships for ten years at Yale and thirty at Stanford, was the Albert Einstein of neuroscience…
Pribram died in the beginning of 2015 at the age of ninety-five after a long and distinguished career working side by side with such giants in science as BF Skinner, John von Neumann and David Bohm; arguably the most brilliant physicist that the Anglo-American empire produced during the twentieth century.
Bohm collaborated closely with Pribram in the formulation of the Holonomic brain theory, but his earlier radical communist political affiliations would have barred him from the inner sanctums of the Stanford Research Institute."

There is some discussion recently of the Wingmakers material and George Green's series of books on Bill's Q&A thread. The books can be read online for free, links are here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104824-Bill-Ryan-s-personal-Question-and-Answer-thread.-Pile-it-on.--&p=1264191&viewfull=1#post1264191
I've requested a title change for this thread, not realizing when I started it that it was going to encompass more than the Divine Feminine.

[onawah]

A bit more from the Wingmakers material page 69 (close to the end) here:
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf
and as follows:
"Sarah: “What if it doesn’t happen? What if they win and transhumanism 3.0 is the new human being locked into a world of separatism? What then?”
Dr. Neruda: “I don’t know how to answer that question, other than to say that the information provided by the WingMakers is a new inception point, which necessarily means a new path. Maybe it will take more time, but it will happen. It has to. We’re infinite beings, and this fact cannot be bottled up indefinitely.”
Sarah: “I understand, but the whole concept of infinite beings—that’s been around a long time. Soul has been around a long time as a concept. How is this any different?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes, it’s been around a long time, but it’s been bottled up into three paths: one, reincarnation and karma; two, be good and obedient and join the ranks of heaven; and three, ascend to a higher plane of existence and eventually become a teacher within the Hierarchy. The fourth path, though not about soul, is that we are simply human flesh and blood and we have no soul.
“A person’s soul is construed from one of these paths, assuming you believe you are a soul. Each of these paths, as I have already said, is within the Hologram of Deception. They do not lead outside—past the wall, and they certainly do not make the wall less stable.
“To be self-realized as an infinite being within a human body on earth, decoupled from the controlling Human 2.0 interface, is the fifth way. We’ve been living in a game show that has four doors where an announcer keeps repeating the instruction: ‘choose one of the four doors,’ while completely ignoring that there is a fifth door.
“This new inception point inserts the fifth door option. That’s how it’s different.”"

Reflecting on my Flower Child days back in the 60s and 70s, I remember how so many of my generation felt that we were really changing the world, that something vastly different was just around the corner if we could only find the way. Peaceful protesting and civil disobedience and so on were compelling because of the Oneness I felt, but also disturbing because there was always someone on the other side who we were against.
So spirituality was the next step, and then there were so many years of practice and study, and some wonderful rewards, but nothing ever measured up to what was the object of all that HOPE that we felt, that something so big and different and better was coming that would unite the world and bring peace to Earth at last.
I don't know if this material from Wingmakers is based on truth or not, but the theory makes a lot of sense with all that I know now, and the prediction it makes about what is coming in another 80 years or so DOES match up to that dream we had of a peaceful world back in the day.
One more lifetime is not that long to wait, as long as we are practicing being in the NOW as we wait.
As Michael Valentine Smith said simply, "Waiting is". And that makes it a bit easier.

[petra]

In short, consciousness takes place inside a frequency receiver and “reality” is a television show….

So... I'm a TV? :P :) :facepalm:
Nice post onawah, thanks! That Einstein quote is great too.

[Frenchy]

Onawah,
When you started this Thread, I was thinking simpy , naively, " Oh good, here's calling attention to Respect for the Original concept of a Man and a Woman " ! !

Now, it get's to ' Holography 'and I flounder :-)

I know what a Hologram is, even watched the Holographic Whale in School Gymnasium..., and I can understand that's a Projection in 3-D, Buteven since listening to David Icke, when he says, everything is an Holographic Illusion, I fail to grasp this ???

I know I'm siting on a chair, I cannot walk thru' the wall, it is solid.... Hope I come back next time with more working brain-cells !

[Pam]

I have to start with the Divine Feminine on my spiritual path, because it has always felt like that was what was missing in religion and spirituality for me.
There are of course, lots of gurus and teachings that extol the value of the Divine Feminine and perhaps there always were, but as long as we are living in a primarily patriarchal, hierarchical world, things will be out of balance and disharmonious.
Brought up in Christianity, for me, the word "God" always referred to a male deity, and later, as I sought my own definition of divinity, the word "Goddess" still only expressed the principles that seemed to be missing. Finally, I came to feel like something of an atheist or perhaps more accurately, a pantheist; deities had just become symbols, not actual entities to me.
So the ideas that the Wingmakers material expresses make sense to me, though I have some different ideas about the age and origins of the human race, because Lemuria is never mentioned, or Lyra, or the Reptilian Wars, or the Draconians, or AI -- in the history according to the Dr. Neruda interview, which skips ahead a great deal to Anu's role on Earth.
What makes sense to me is the idea that Anu decided he wanted to become the God of our planet, and since his reality was patriarchal and hierarchical, his design for our 3D religions and spirituality followed the same pattern.
(Although Mahu's prediction that the current paradigm is now collapsing agrees with other prophecies, such as that of the Mayans, and some of the truth of these matters have always bled through the illusion from souls such as Jesus, Buddha, etc., though the messages have become somewhat distorted or misunderstood or hidden over time.
Following is an excerpt from The Fifth Interview of Dr. Neruda, pages 16-22
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf

"Sarah: “It doesn’t feel like good news.

“This was all part of the design, to create various religions and esoteric cults that would support a vast Hierarchy and order the human species into master-student relationships, and then create a multi-leveled afterlife that would reward those who believed and were obedient to their god or masters.
“You see, the whole principle that was behind this entire endeavor could be summed up in one word: separation. Everything exists in separation within the earth plane and its afterlife planes as well. But, according to the WingMakers, what is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness—not through the unconscious mind, which only links us in separation, but rather through the life essence that is us. And this life essence is sovereign and integral. It is I AM WE ARE. No one is above, no one is below. No one is better, no one is lesser.”
Sarah: “But you’re saying everything is a lie? Everything… I mean everything we’ve been taught to believe in is a deception! How is that possible… or … or even believable?”
Dr. Neruda: “It’s possible because the beings that have enslaved humanity designed a world to which we adjusted over eons of time. We evolved into it in such a manner that we became lost in our world. The veils that have been placed over us are opaque. So much so that people operate as human uniforms unaware that everything around them is illusory. It is a programmed reality that is not real.
“The WingMakers say everything is simply sound, holographically organized to look real.”
Sarah: “It’s depressing…”
Dr. Neruda: “Only when you consider the scope of the deception and the way in which humanity has allowed it to rule their behaviors. The good news is that you’re hearing about this now.”Dr. Neruda: “Each person can step out of the illusion. There is no master here. No god is going to come down and make it happen for us. No ETs. No one. It is each of us. This is what is meant by I AM. I… it’s like One. One—me, and one—all of us unified. AM, meaning exist now. In this moment. Not in history or memory. Not in some future time or goal. Now!”
Sarah: “It doesn’t feel real to me. I was raised a Christian. I have no reason to believe that Jesus was an inside… agent for this plan of deception—”
Dr. Neruda: “I’m not saying he was. Many of those who have come to earth as humanteachers have tried to reveal how deep and broad and high this illusion has been made. It is as far as the edge of the universe and as close as your DNA. Everywhere in between is illusion. Jesus came to reveal much of this, but the writers of the Bible decided what would be acceptable within the paradigm of life as we humanly know it. They elected to make Jesus a part of the deception. They saw it was time for a redefinition of God to accommodate an evolving Human 2.0. God was suddenly a loving father, and all of humanity was brother and
sister.”
Sarah: “So you’re saying Jesus was aware of this deception, but his words weren’t included in the Bible?”
Dr. Neruda: “Our opinion was that his words were so against the conditioned beliefs that people could not understand them as he said them. And so, over time, they were translated into the form you know them today. The Biblical translations simply lack the original potency with which he said them.
“Besides, there are two methods that can make exposing this illusion a very difficult proposition.”
Sarah: “What do you mean?”
Dr. Neruda: “The first is that the unconscious mind system is inside everyone. It’s like a field of information that everyone can access. It can affect or infect everyone. A revelatory idea can be passed to a small number of people, but it lacks sufficient influence to generate massawakening. So there’s unconscious mind inertia.
“The other, and this is more pernicious, is that the functional implants are programmed, and like any program, they can be upgraded or even turned off.”
Sarah: “As I listen to this… story, I… I feel a little overwhelmed at how to proceed with theinterview. I’m not sure what to ask or what direction to take things. If I look at my notes, I see my handwritten note: ‘there is no God,’ is this really what you’re saying?”
Dr. Neruda: “The WingMakers refer to the triad of consciousness as having the god
consciousness installed within it—in the unconscious mind layer. But they also report that as the individual develops from about the age of six or seven, they begin to assemble their individual personality from the elements of the subconscious layer. By the time they’re twelve to fourteen years old, they have their unique personality well in place. For some, this uniqueness is shutting out the existence of a god.
“From Anu’s perspective, this is fine. He probably likes having atheists and agnostics. It’s more separation. More diversity. In fact, the greater the diversity in the human family, the greater the separation. The greater the separation, the easier it is to keep the program of enslavement intact. Choose sides and disagree with your opponents. Compete. It fuels wars and social unrest.
“As for the existence of god, we, collectively, are the closest thing to god. We are. That’s the clear message of the WingMakers. There is a First Source, a center point in existence that created the framework of existence through sound—”
Sarah: “But what about the ones who are enlightened or spiritual masters—they’re all madeup?”
Dr. Neruda: “No, it’s not that they’re made up. They exist. It’s just that their existence is within the human interface or functional implants. They exist there. We, us, the being that is I AM, that being is not of that reality. It doesn’t really exist inside the holographic stage that was created by interdimensional beings millions of years ago; rather, it is being used as a power source that animates the human interface or uniform. Over time, we’ve spiraled deeper and deeper inside of this created world, complete with its afterlife and different planes of existence.
“You could look at it this way: Anu installed a program inside the Human 2.0 and in this program, humans would evolve from knowing absolutely nothing about their world, to knowing god. Humans were designed to have god consciousness—meaning, to have the same understanding and awareness as Anu. But then Anu took this evolutionary line and positioned god consciousness so far out into the future that humans would essentially be chasing this god consciousness forever. They’d be chasing shadows, because until they awaken from the deception, the only god that exists in that world is Anu.
“Once awakened as I AM WE ARE or the Sovereign Integral, a human being lives as an expression of this consciousness. According to the WingMakers, no one has achieved this at this time. It is, however, our future to live in this consciousness in a human instrument.”
Sarah: “No one has done this… you mean anywhere?”
Dr. Neruda: “On this plane, earth, no one has done this. But remember, the WingMakers are human in a future time. They have returned to our time to crack this shell open a bit. They have traveled to our time to remind us of what they discovered. They left this enslavement, so we will do it.”
Sarah: “But you already said that spacetime is an illusion.”
Dr. Neruda: “That’s true. It is, but it’s hard to imagine that the universe in which we exist is really a hologram projection that was programmed inside our unconscious mind and we’re really inside this hologram, wearing a human uniform that was outfitted to perceive only this hologram. The WingMakers say that the real world is sound. Everything is sound and resonance of sound. Everything we have in our human uniform for sensing our universe is millions of years of evolutionary design to tune into that hologram and only that hologram.”
Sarah: “How does that hologram extend beyond this physical world then? You said even the afterlife is part of it?”
Dr. Neruda: “There are many aspects to the afterlife. There is god, first and foremost. There is the Light of illumination. There is the universal spirit and individual soul. There is a Hierarchy of angels and masters. There is the concept of karma and reincarnation or sin and salvation. The concept of heaven and hell. The concept of the chosen. The concept of an ascension path. The concept of the Book of Records or Akashic records. All of these concepts were designed into an upgrade of the Human 2.0 interface. Certain human beings are programmed to find these concepts in their unconscious mind layer and share them. As a result, religions sprout. Philosophies rise sometimes in support of the religions, sometimes in
contradiction. Esoteric cults rise. All the while the human being remains lost. It remains muddled in its illusion. Everything tied to an empty promise in a belief, and in all those beliefs, one thing remains constant: separation.
“The program is vast in its reach, and the Anunnaki, once they had mined sufficient gold, had an entire race of beings enslaved. Anu, along with his allies in the Sirian and Serpent races, decided it would be best to turn the Human 2.0s into a worthless creature that forever sought enlightenment through belief. And who do you suppose would provide the things to believe
in? Anu and Marduk.
“Everything became learning lessons. The earth was a school house. If you learn your lessons, you won’t have to keep incarnating. Learn, learn, learn. But what are you learning? You are learning to believe in the afterlife, as it was described and prescribed by Anu and his designers. You are learning to don your human uniform obediently. You are learning to discern how humanity is different. You are learning to link every self-image you have to the world of three dimensions,
while hoping there is more after death.
“The sober reality is that after you die, the being inside you is met by a guardian who will take you to your destination, based mostly on your deeds in this life. However, most beings are taken to a life review where you face your life in every detail, and based on that experience an authoritative figure will prescribe your next life options for reincarnation. You are essentially recycled into the same program with a new mother and family, and a programmed life path is
laid out for you to follow.
“The afterlife program and process is all part of the master program to retain the enslavement of the beings. Remember, we’re interdimensional beings—meaning we exist in 3-D and the higher planes. It’s just that these higher planes are designed by the Anunnaki. They are not of the real dimensional planes. Otherwise, we would die, discover who we really are, and we would never reincarnate or if we did, we would tell everyone on earth that this is all an illusion.
”Sarah: “Why? Why do it this way? It doesn’t make sense.”
Dr. Neruda: “What began as an experiment in three-dimensional exploration from a higherd dimensional reality became what is here. Every human being will confront this reality eventually. It cannot be avoided. We can agonize about the lack of fairness or ask why, but whether it makes sense to you doesn’t change the fact that we live in a world of designedseparation. Divide and conquer.
“The WingMakers write of the tone-vibration of equality. (Dr. Neruda pulled out some papers at this point.) Here’s the exact choice of words by the WingMakers: ‘When all manifestations of life are genuinely perceived as fragmentary expressions of First Source, the vibration of equality that underlies all life forms becomes perceptible to the human instrument. Life initially emerges as an extension of Source Reality, and then, as an individuated energy frequency
invested within a form. It vibrates, in its pure, timeless state, precisely the same for all manifestations of life. This is the common ground that all life shares. This is the tone-vibration of equality that can be observed within all life forms that unifies all expressions of diversity to the foundation of existence known as First Source.’”
Sarah: “It’s so abstract. How does it help?”
Dr. Neruda: “Maybe it doesn’t. I don’t know. But the thing is, to change, to step out of this illusion, it requires each of us to wake up and stay awake. It’s not reading words that will change this; it’s the profound nature of new behaviors, because these behaviors signal that our consciousness layers are understood as separate from who we really are. We have to operate as I AM WE ARE.”
Sarah: “Where does the Incunabula5 or Illuminati belong in this narrative?”
Dr. Neruda: “I’ll answer that later. I want to continue the story a little further.”
Sarah: “Okay.”
Dr. Neruda: “Human 2.0s and earth continue to densify. We become increasingly three dimensional. We are actually denser now than we have ever been—in terms of physicality. There was a time, about forty years ago, when we thought alien races were actually leaving spaceships behind on purpose, but what we discovered, more recently, is that most of the aliens were not physical beings. They were observing earth, and their spaceships actually became entrained by the gravitational circuits of the earth’s core, which caused their spaceships to materialize in three-dimensional space. Because many of the materials used in
the ships’ construction had chemical properties, they were prone to densification when exposed to earth’s atmosphere.”
Sarah: “You mentioned the earth’s core as being the cause of all of this, what’s so special about it?
Dr. Neruda: “The magnetic fields associated with earth’s core are unique. They are, in the words of the WingMakers, ‘alive.’ We can only assume that alive is an aspect of intelligence.
“The point in this, however, is that everything’s densifying. It is compressing. It is
compressing for a reason: the old systems can fall in unison when density reaches a certain critical mass. And that is what will happen.”
Sarah: “When?”
Dr. Neruda: “All I can say is that it is soon. I don’t want dates and times associated with it—”
Sarah: “But do you know?”
Dr. Neruda: “We know a range.”
Sarah: “More than ten years?”
Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”
Sarah: “More than twenty (years)?”
Dr. Neruda: “All I will say is that the WingMakers term for this is SIN, or the Sovereign Integral Network. SIN is the definition of the new system. They said it can come in an instant once the right conditions are in place. What is unclear is how SIN develops after The Grand Portal and Human 3.0.”
Sarah: “That’s the first time you’ve mentioned Human 3.0. What is it?”
Dr. Neruda: “If human beings are trapped in a prison of illusion, as Human 2.0s, and their interface to the holographic universe is the reason for their being trapped, then a new model needs to step forward. Human 3.0 is this new model. It is the formula of self-realization. It is stepping out of the constructed universe or reality, and living as a self-expression of I AM WE ARE. Human 3.0 is the Sovereign Integral. I call it Human 3.0 SI.
“You see, The Grand Portal is a way to synchronize humanity to a new inception point where it is living in the expression of oneness and equality, sovereign and integral, I AM and WE ARE. It is a way for humanity to move from separation—which was its previous inception point, the one that generated Human 1.0 and 2.0. Human 3.0 SI will have a new inception point, and the reason for The Grand Portal was to enable synchronization, because how can you have a network of equality and oneness if the beings were not synchronized?”
Sarah: “What is soul, then?”
Dr. Neruda: “Soul is an idea or paradigm that has become part of the human reality program. Soul is the part of you that contains all memory of your existence as a Human 1.0 and 2.0. For
most of us, this is a vast repository—far too large for the consciousness framework to deal
with. So the soul holds this information for each individual being.
“Soul is a paradigm of infinite expression within a finite reality. But you can’t be infinite in a finite reality if that reality is a programmed reality. So soul is not the life force that powers the human consciousness. That is the Sovereign Integral. That is what each of us is when we are stripped naked of all illusion, of all deceptions, of all limitations, of all veils, of all functional implants—including the soul.
“It is the redefinition of human identity and expression as I AM WE ARE. From a human perspective, the WingMakers do not see humans as lesser entities, but simply beings with inception points that enslaved them. It is not a judgment that humans are worthless or bad or sinful or weak or needy. None of those things. Humanity needs a new start. A point in which they can synchronize in one realization, and that is the expression of I AM WE ARE. Living those words as behavior.”
Sarah: “Where’s the creator of Anu… the real God? How can we be allowed to live and operate in this kind of deception?”
Dr. Neruda: “The WingMakers talk about the transformation/mastership model… hold on.
(Dr. Neruda went to a page among his folders.) This is how they put it: ‘The time has come to integrate the dominant model of the Hierarchy (evolution/saviorship) with the dominant model of Source Intelligence (transformation/mastership). This integration can only be achieved at the level of the entity. It cannot occur within the context of a human instrument or an aspect of the Hierarchy. Only the entity—the wholeness of inter-dimensional sovereignty imbued with Source Intelligence—can facilitate and fully experience the integration of these two models of existence.’”
Sarah: “So what does that have to do with my question?”
Dr. Neruda: “Each individual being is responsible for this. God or Source Intelligence isn’t going to come down from the heavens and correct human faults or obstacles. Humans need to take responsibility for this—”
Sarah: “But seriously, how? We’re wrapped in so many layers of deception—”
Dr. Neruda: “It’s not easy. The WingMakers write about the heart virtues as the behavioral construct for this time, and how these words can be applied and lived, not simply held in the head as a worthy concept.”
Sarah: “I don’t think you’ve mentioned these before. What are they?”
Dr. Neruda: “Appreciation or gratitude, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding and valor or courage. It is the combination of nowness—being in the now—and applying these words in our behaviors. It’s being impeccable in this practice.” "

Basically, this is what David Icke is saying, am I correct?

[Pam]

[QUOTE=lunaflare;1263944]Petra,

Women are not to blame for the violence in the world.
Women are not to blame for the violence perpetrated against them--emotional, physical and sexual.
"Blame the woman" is the most dangerous meme we have in our world culture and this much change.
Agreed, change must occur within the cultural psyche of all.

When women can believe in their inherent dignity and worth after centuries of subjugation--then the whole blame-shame cycle can shift. In indigenous traditions, it is the women who are the caretakers of the earth and of the spirit of children and men folk. Wisdom Keepers.
Yes, they are educators and teachers and yet their roles have been usurped. This is why they have fallen so short in terms of raising "good" children. And where are fathers in these posts of blame?
Change is required by all as cultural beliefs are deep-seated. But we as humans resist change...even though we say/think we don't.

Men need to step back to let women step forward. Patriarchy is real and has been in existence for thousands of years. Patience and understanding is required for the pendulum to swing back.[/QUOTE






If men are to step back so women can step forward just perpetuate the imbalance we are experiencing?

[onawah]

Apologies Frenchy. I didn't really have a lot of particulars in mind when starting the thread, other than the quotation I put in the first post, which really struck me as lovely.
The re-emerging Divine Feminine has long been a subject dear to my heart, and I am fine with anyone who wants to focus on that in the thread.
It's just that what I have currently been more focused on and finding to be very inspiring is the Wingmaker material, and it was helping me to connect some important dots relating to the re-emerging Divine Feminine, so I included that in the thread topic (and then asked to have the thread re-named so it wouldn't be too confusing for others tuning in, hopefully).
I'm an INFJ in the Myers Briggs personality categories and we tend to want to connect dots and see the big picture, so sometimes my mind is just all over the place.
The hologram thing was just connecting more of the dots between science and cosmology and the idea of Oneness, which I've always thought to be a more feminine trait, as women are so much about merging.
In other words, if our Universe really is a hologram, then we really are all connected, or ALL ONE.
Onawah,
When you started this Thread, I was thinking simpy , naively, " Oh good, here's calling attention to Respect for the Original concept of a Man and a Woman " ! !

Now, it get's to ' Holography 'and I flounder :-)

I know what a Hologram is, even watched the Holographic Whale in School Gymnasium..., and I can understand that's a Projection in 3-D, Buteven since listening to David Icke, when he says, everything is an Holographic Illusion, I fail to grasp this ???

I know I'm siting on a chair, I cannot walk thru' the wall, it is solid.... Hope I come back next time with more working brain-cells !

[Frenchy]

I hope I didn't seem difficult ! to the contrary, no need to apologise, it's a lovely thread !

I was just showing my 'kindergarten-level', of understanding here, among all you hard-working, intelectual researchers...

{ Opened my eyes late in life ! }

[onawah]

It may be--I have not been keeping up with Icke's work.


Basically, this is what David Icke is saying, am I correct?

[shaberon]

I know what a Hologram is, even watched the Holographic Whale in School Gymnasium..., and I can understand that's a Projection in 3-D, Buteven since listening to David Icke, when he says, everything is an Holographic Illusion, I fail to grasp this ???

I know I'm siting on a chair, I cannot walk thru' the wall, it is solid.... Hope I come back next time with more working brain-cells !

I would agree that the world is of the nature of a hologram, and it is an illusion, because it arises and decays, i. e. it is not permanent or absolute. It remains real enough to those who experience it; the taste of the experience depending on one's present consciousness. The body cannot penetrate the wall, but the mind can, which, I hope we can agree, is more of an "I" than the flesh. Talking about illusion can get a little sketchy, unless it is backed with mind (and moral value) as reality. The feminine or Shakti slant on this is that the casting of illusion is playful and joyous. It is not the illusion itself that is "out to get us", it is the contamination in our own minds.

[onawah]

"We are called to be both mystics and prophets.
The mystic in us is a lover, the prophet is that one who stands up to defend what one cherishes."

~ Mathew Foxhttps://i.pinimg.com/736x/6b/8b/56/6b8b5674a87a7b2071019d89c7805982--tribal-paint-dreads.jpg

[Mark]

The power of the DF is here and manifesting. It is beautiful and awesome and terrific to contemplating beingness as Her scion. To represent balance in the return function of the DM energetics seeking resonance.

[onawah]

MARS/CHIRON: Healing the Wounded Masculine
(Normally I would post this in the Ang Stoic thread, but I think it's even more appropriate in this thread. Bold letters my emphasis.)
https://angstoic.com/2018/12/mars-chiron-healing-the-wounded-masculine/
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The current MARS/CHIRON cycle begins at 28°♓05′ from December 29, 2018-July 14, 2020. This will be the fifth and final cycle to begin in Pisces – a series which began in Jan 2011, and is now set to become the healing touchstone of a specific kind of issue around the masculine, assertiveness and order.

If you have ever harboured feelings of shame or ignominy for not having acted more immediately to defend yourself in the face of threat, or are suffering guilt or disgrace for having acted in ways which may have been seen as abjectly “reprehensible” towards others, then this cycle promises to bring opportunities for release and salvation, perhaps restore your organism to a healthier balance. Being the final cycle in this constellation, it promises to go out with a healing bang.

Chiron’s job is to assuage our pain by clearing away toxic emotional baggage from past experiences. His app. 50-year cycle means that these are often tied into our family history or DNA. Particularly during the stressful phases of its transit, the planetoid helps bring old wound stories to the surface, often as physical ailments which may be lying dormant in the emotional body. Painful instances such as those tied to illness, disorder, disfigurement or disease can force the individual into an inner crisis, precipitating an awakening of latent emotions, and through rite of passage forge new energetic pathways of healing.

Mars is the ego-defense mechanism that triggers the fight-or-flight responses in the individual. It is there to assist in maintaining our boundaries and to energize us into action in situations where our competency or resistance to invasion is necessary. Without Mars, we might just cower and submit, our will become usurped by a more dominant force. Hence it is absolutely necessary for every organism’s survival to put up some kind of a fight, or at least run away to “fight another day”.

The conjunction of Mars to Chiron heralds the beginning of a brand new journey of exploration into body-stored memories where in the past we had failed to assert ourselves, or where our rise to action was stunned – humiliated or wounded by force. Mars tends to be at his most evasive in Pisces, preferring to recede or disengage, quit or wait forever, preferring rather to suffer a victimhood, or sacrifice his individual self for a higher (or lower, fear-based) cause. When we do something in a weak, sly, retiring, cowardly, sycophantic, disingenuous way, or when we give up something for the sake of an ideal, for ‘god’s will’, or for altruistic reasons – there’s Mars working in ‘mysterious’, yet uncharacteristically indirect ways. Contact to Chiron suggests that these motives are either going to add harm, shame, and dishonor, or some kind of trauma to the mix, which if not immediately reconciled or properly treated, could be stored in the body’s parasympathetic system and build up into all kinds of weird inflammatory behavior.

As a result of untreated wounds to our divine masculine system, we go on learning to cope by becoming angrily submissive, indifferent, passive-aggressive, even resentful and subversive with those who show dominance or supreme competency over us. Whilst these are simply coping mechanisms, they none-the-less send the individual into a victim mode, which flowers into complex psycho-sexual behaviors, often passed on from generation to generation.

In the modern age of ‘alternative healing’, Chiron transits seem to be delivering exponentially greater degrees of insight and information about our age-old wounds. At each turn of this roughly 18-24 month MA/CH cycle, we go through critical stages of awareness of such wounds, summoning the courage to stand up to the world that we felt has ‘beaten us’ into a state of inertia and lameness.

For example, by the time the last MA/CH cycle, which began in Jan 2017, had reached its full culmination (opposition in Sep 2017) the world had erupted into a full-blown movement against workplace/domestic harassment known as the #MeToo movement. In that cycle one would observe that significant relationships, which had commenced around the beginning of that year (MA/CH conjunction), would give impetus to later becoming the final straw for all those who still carried latent wounds about “not acting” when/as they “should” have in the face of dominance over their character.

Conditioning the wound
Spaced repetition of any action or instruction sets the neural pathways in our brain to follow a particular order of activity. This is what turns certain behaviors in our experience seem like second nature – our language, our taste in foods, cultural interests, learned activities and daily routines (riding a bike, playing a musical instrument etc). The more you practice or are exposed to something, the more you get “good” at it. This is how habits are formed. Observe what happens when your habits are “bad”, or self-destructive.

What generally happens as a result of harmful or denigrating cultural afflictions, learned over time?

What happens to our belief systems when we are repeatedly conditioned with messages that affect the peace, well-being and happiness of some, or all, of our relationships?

Of course, many practices in our cultures simply expose us to programming, or instructions, that are toxic or destructive to those whose individual strength and autonomy is most vulnerable to being invaded or compromised.

Healing the wounded masculine means addressing these sabotaging activities, identifying their archetypal influence and removing them from the collective memory. This is not an easy task. In some ways, it means that we need to deprogram the human mind from connecting to stories that are patently destructive.

The culture of emotional abuse
It is important that we consider all the harm that has been collectively inflicted upon the divine masculine archetype. It is time to understand the terrible emotional trauma that has been committed against it and to recognize how this damage has subsequently been passed on, generation to generation, as emotionally abusive conduct. These personally distorted streams of perverted aggressive energy conflate into a mainstream river of violence, striking against a truly authentic expression of divine masculinity.

Men have often had to perform society’s “dirty work.” Out of necessity, they have learned to shut down, or kill off, their natural sense of compassion in order to compete in the workplace, or wage wars against the enemy, commit terrible atrocities for the sake of survival.

However, men were not designed to be mean, uncaring, and heartless monsters by nature. They have only developed this ability as a defense mechanism against the apparent cruelty that has been conditioned into them by their respective fear-based societies.

Unfortunately, once a human becomes disconnected from his heart, he becomes gradually more difficult to un-become apathetic or cruel. He finds it difficult to re-associate to his emotions, to reconnect with his feeling body and become a coherent individual again.

The repression of kindness
Much of the wounding experienced in today’s masculine is a residual side-effect of a cumulative cultural fear. Over the centuries of conditioning, this has developed into a callousness in expressing the natural sensitivity and kindness. It is this repressed emotion of the stereotypical male, seen as a sign of weakness, a vulnerability in his gender, identified as “unmanly”, “effeminate” or “sissy” simply for showing up in a heart-centred and healthy expression of human tenderness and compassion. Shame or ridicule is a cutting force upon the psyche that forces the flow of any natural traits to become silently suppressed. Certain pathways from the heart to the nervous system become limited or shut off.

When a man feels continually constrained to denying and repressing his true nature just so he can uphold an expected gender role in his society, eventually it becomes part of his conditioning. Hence, any inherent traits of compassion and caring remain hidden from others, lest their secret shame be exposed and revealed as seen as being seen as horribly weak, pathetic, and inadequate assertions of masculinity.

It’s no wonder that in today’s twisted social reality, we have created the great masculine aberration: inappropriate rage, resentment, and bitter loathing, directed both towards others and the self. Naturally, this is seen in both men and women who still carry the wounds to their masculine archetype.

Boys are raised to become soldiers (somebody’s instrument of war), not warriors (where they stand up for what is virtuous and true). We march them off to war or send them to police laws that intuitively go against the peace and well-being of fellow men.

We are all equal.
But we are not the same.
Many of us resonate with kindness and acceptance,
while some are still going around trying to act tough.
Trying to prove their force against individuals and society.
It is a fear,
which stems from a wound,
which made one feel less
when, in truth, there was so much more
in the heart of that child
that he wished we could share –
but his emotions became crushed
and to ‘feel’
for himself;
for others,
became wrong
and those sores became calluses upon the heart
and the sore became more callous and unkind
and now this unfeeling aggression
hurts us all…

Time to heal this now."

[petra]

Found an interesting article in a Chatelaine magazine which I got for Christmas titled "Go Ahead — Get Angry. How Women’s Rage Is Reshaping The World"

Here's a link if anyone's interested: https://www.chatelaine.com/living/books/women-and-anger-rebecca-traister/

Here is a short snip from the article, this is the part which caught my attention the most.



The uprising that started with the 2017 Women’s March on Washington and grew into #MeToo and now #StopKavanaugh is not the first time women’s anger, or the suppression of it, has altered the course of history. Rebecca Traister’s new book, Good And Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger, gives women’s rage its historical due by examining how it has moved the country toward equality. With blistering clarity, Traister also lays bare how hard the powerful have fought to suppress it — possibly, she writes, because they feel just how powerful it could be. “What becomes clear, when we look at the past with an eye to the future, is that the discouragement of women’s anger — via silencing, erasure, and repression — stems from the correct understanding of those in power that in the fury of women lies the power to change the world.”

[onawah]

This has more to do with the information that the Wingmakers site has offered regarding Transhumanism than it has to do directly with the Divine Feminine, though for me, being connected with Gaia is the opposite of transhumanism, so it is related in that respect.
I've been recommending Dark Journalist's "X Series" widely, especially his latest at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHV7WFM2Avk&t=2190s
...because he covers the same subject of Transhumanism from the perspective of the Mystery Schools ( as represented by Rudolp Steiner, Helene Blavatsky, etc.) in a very wholistic way, particularly in this episode.
Wingmakers predicts that humanity will not succumb to Transhumanism, which the Mystery Schools refer to as the "Eighth Sphere", and warned us against prophetically a long time ago, but the the descriptions are similar.
(The image the Mystery Schools used is spider-like beings that are part of the Transhumanist process.)
A prophecy from the Hopis match the Mystery School's, using the image of "spider webs" all around the earth.
When I was attending classes at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, the psychics often spoke about malevolent other-dimensional, beings which they called "spiders" :spider: which attach themselves to people and suck their energy.
Interesting dots being connected....
Linda Moulton Howe also talked about negatively oriented spider beings in VietNam.
Also my post here is related: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1268105#post1268105
"Something that struck me this morning out of the blue for some reason is the similarities between what Cayce said about how higher dimensional souls were originally gradually induced to take on material bodies in order to become slaves, and how the current transhumanist trend seems to have something to do with entrapping human consciousness within machines."

[onawah]

I used to be so Love&Light, but these days, I am feeling much more :blackwidow:. Not sure if it's just that I've gotten crankier and less tolerant as I age, or that I've dealt enough now with my Shadow side that I have stopped suppressing and started expressing anger when it feels appropriate, without feeling shame or guilt.
No doubt I will find out!

Found an interesting article in a Chatelaine magazine which I got for Christmas titled "Go Ahead — Get Angry. How Women’s Rage Is Reshaping The World"

Here's a link if anyone's interested: https://www.chatelaine.com/living/books/women-and-anger-rebecca-traister/

Here is a short snip from the article, this is the part which caught my attention the most.



The uprising that started with the 2017 Women’s March on Washington and grew into #MeToo and now #StopKavanaugh is not the first time women’s anger, or the suppression of it, has altered the course of history. Rebecca Traister’s new book, Good And Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger, gives women’s rage its historical due by examining how it has moved the country toward equality. With blistering clarity, Traister also lays bare how hard the powerful have fought to suppress it — possibly, she writes, because they feel just how powerful it could be. “What becomes clear, when we look at the past with an eye to the future, is that the discouragement of women’s anger — via silencing, erasure, and repression — stems from the correct understanding of those in power that in the fury of women lies the power to change the world.”

[petra]

Also my post here is related: [removed due to link not working in quote]
"Something that struck me this morning out of the blue for some reason is the similarities between what Cayce said about how higher dimensional souls were originally gradually induced to take on material bodies in order to become slaves, and how the current transhumanist trend seems to have something to do with entrapping human consciousness within machines."


Thanks I'm checking that out

I never heard of Cayce getting into anything that deep before. Cayce is like a puzzle, wrapped in an enigma! I can't read his writings - it's as if he speaks a different language than I do - but I can read about him.
I've had thoughts about trapping consciousness before, and they're horrifying - I refuse to even try to describe it.
Reminds me of the Genie in a Bottle business. I get that it's mythology, but even so, trapping things in bottles is not very nice.



I used to be so Love&Light, but these days, I am feeling much more :blackwidow:. Not sure if it's just that I've gotten crankier and less tolerant as I age, or that I've dealt enough now with my Shadow side that I have stopped suppressing and started expressing anger when it feels appropriate, without feeling shame or guilt.
No doubt I will find out!


The most shameful things I've found are yelling and violence...
When I look back though, I don't always regret yelling, and I don't always regret violence!
When it boils right down to it... I think that if I need to yell in order to get my point across, then it's worth having a bit of shame.
Also sometimes, NOT having punched someone in the face can be pretty shameful, it least in my case. Looking back on my life and wishing I would have punched someone should probably make me feel shameful, but it doesn't - because deep down, I think the dude knows that he deserves a punch in the face.

EDIT 2: Maybe I'm a little bit vengeful after all, but it really doesn't feel like vengeance I am after. Maybe more like justice :)

[Frenchy]

Edit :-
''' (The image the Mystery Schools used is spider-like beings that are part of the Transhumanist process.)...

When I was attending classes at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, the psychics often spoke about malevolent other-dimensional, beings which they called "spiders" :spider: which attach themselves to people and suck their energy.

Interesting dots being connected....
Linda Moulton Howe also talked about negatively oriented spider beings in VietNam.
"

Greetings Folks,
Sometimes, I'm not sure whether input I make, gives any real contribution... I cannot be sure whether some things are linked, - Just seems to me that snippets, I find here and there, fit in somewhere ! !

For Onawah's commment [part] above, I imediately recall Miles Johnstone, who is a 'Hands-on' Electrical - Electronic Expert; having said that [pp]

" When there have been occasions to verify some High Voltage Transmitters, at times, just for the brief moment they've opened the [electrical] cabinet door, they've glimpsed a ' Spider-like form ', which then dis-appears.
"His name for them is " Scuttlers ".

Miles also states, these entities, had been 'feeding-off' the radiated EMF... ?


Perhaps everything is connected, everything is Truth ? .......

[onawah]

Greybeard can probably direct you right to that specific info from Cayce, Petra.
Apparently, the Cayce Foundation is uncomfortable with some of Cayce's info so they don't make it as widely known.

In my case, I'm not so much tempted to yell or be physically :blackwidow:, just much more willing to express my truth and hold my ground if someone is trying to bully me or be condescending. :nono:

Passive resistance has its limits, I think, and it ends somewhere around where "tough love" begins.
Sometimes the kinder thing might be to teach someone a much needed lesson in a way that will really get their attention!
Though I must confess I get an almost orgasmic charge when I see captured videos on youtube of women who know how to physically defend themselves from men who accost them!

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It almost feels like Divine retribution...

The thing that bothers me about the Me Too movement is how late it is in coming for many of those women who, for example, were still making excuses for sleazeball Bill Clinton's reprehensible behavior all those years, and then suddenly became vocal and furious once Trump was in office.
(Not that he's an angel either.)
It makes a just cause seem like a hypocritical political move, though it really IS a just cause.





"Something that struck me this morning out of the blue for some reason is the similarities between what Cayce said about how higher dimensional souls were originally gradually induced to take on material bodies in order to become slaves, and how the current transhumanist trend seems to have something to do with entrapping human consciousness within machines."


Thanks I'm checking that out

I never heard of Cayce getting into anything that deep before. Cayce is like a puzzle, wrapped in an enigma! I can't read his writings - it's as if he speaks a different language than I do - but I can read about him.
I've had thoughts about trapping consciousness before, and they're horrifying - I refuse to even try to describe it.
Reminds me of the Genie in a Bottle business. I get that it's mythology, but even so, trapping things in bottles is not very nice.



I used to be so Love&Light, but these days, I am feeling much more :blackwidow:. Not sure if it's just that I've gotten crankier and less tolerant as I age, or that I've dealt enough now with my Shadow side that I have stopped suppressing and started expressing anger when it feels appropriate, without feeling shame or guilt.
No doubt I will find out!


The most shameful things I've found are yelling and violence...
When I look back though, I don't always regret yelling, and I don't always regret violence!
When it boils right down to it... I think that if I need to yell in order to get my point across, then it's worth having a bit of shame.
Also sometimes, NOT having punched someone in the face can be pretty shameful, it least in my case. Looking back on my life and wishing I would have punched someone should probably make me feel shameful, but it doesn't - because deep down, I think the dude knows that he deserves a punch in the face.

EDIT 2: Maybe I'm a little bit vengeful after all, but it really doesn't feel like vengeance I am after. Maybe more like justice :)

[onawah]

That would make sense, Frenchy.


Miles also states, these entities, had been 'feeding-off' the radiated EMF... ?

[onawah]

This wasn't written by a woman, but it speaks right to my woman's soul, so I am posting it here:
From: The Cosmic Dancer

How I became a Warrior

Once, I ran from fear
so fear controlled me.
Until I learned to hold fear like a newborn.
Listen to it, but not give in.
Honour it, but not worship it.
Fear could not stop me anymore.
I walked with courage into the storm.
I still have fear,
but it does not have me.

Once, I was ashamed of who I was.
I invited shame into my heart.
I let it burn.
It told me, "I am only trying
to protect your vulnerability".
I thanked shame dearly,
and stepped into life anyway,
unashamed, with shame as a lover.

Once, I had great sadness
buried deep inside.
I invited it to come out and play.
I wept oceans. My tear ducts ran dry.
And I found joy right there.
Right at the core of my sorrow.
It was heartbreak that taught me how to love.

Once, I had anxiety.
A mind that wouldn't stop.
Thoughts that wouldn't be silent.
So I stopped trying to silence them.
And I dropped out of the mind,
and into the Earth.
Into the mud.
Where I was held strong
like a tree, unshakeable, safe.

Once, anger burned in the depths.
I called anger into the light of myself.
I felt its shocking power.
I let my heart pound and my blood boil.
Listened to it, finally.
And it screamed, "Respect yourself fiercely now!".
"Speak your truth with passion!".
"Say no when you mean no!".
"Walk your path with courage!".
"Let no one speak for you!"
Anger became an honest friend.
A truthful guide.
A beautiful wild child.

Once, loneliness cut deep.
I tried to distract and numb myself.
Ran to people and places and things.
Even pretended I was "happy".
But soon I could not run anymore.
And I tumbled into the heart of loneliness.
And I died and was reborn
into an exquisite solitude and stillness.
That connected me to all things.
So I was not lonely, but alone with All Life.
My heart One with all other hearts.

Once, I ran from difficult feelings.
Now, they are my advisors, confidants, friends,
and they all have a home in me,
and they all belong and have dignity.
I am sensitive, soft, fragile,
my arms wrapped around all my inner children.
And in my sensitivity, power.
In my fragility, an unshakeable Presence.

In the depths of my wounds,
in what I had named “darkness”,
I found a blazing Light
that guides me now in battle.

I became a warrior
when I turned towards myself.

And started listening."

~ Jeff Foster
https://www.facebook.com/thecosmicdancerpage/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARA7AkGA7Yo1blm2mjJ_t4av6yKfDwlgrk588eTa27depH6PuU_rOx89XVbq_CibR8PcAS4fSJwW5rMQ&hc_ref=ARR2-IVRueqiO_X7iADkq9yz9vvWgpQyM7gNsj-AHyFkbat85y4BgJZCrXmiNn2avBQ&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARAd1QU0uyjhycWCmX6p4Gf_KxMSH88_kHlLEiKtMKFheeiA95BZF_D9br9u1BjxR4aB_z9r7fc1xBHvtH8PAAD3HfQeTzK-rMShSTDxscrKp4uBp8RZPl1khe8d5jv4uhmUbI2uG5EeAhcTdY03NoYWKuUnpB7iosQ8PwKa29L8CHRz3MK9rcstoc18bAW2vmu3 zGFg_G9L17a05ZU_GaLZ12DbM1xLBm7ciS-kVVyGfLaJtJYyzuw2k8WsJAp209l_g5H2lfsnqFIHMPwG-qgaI9aHv7X81uskAqJ2Xp9TKn8ouHdWi4uaYaCyrJe-7vFTNIlNhlCM1CFn48vkgjR5TyORjZy9OAlw0EzIdS0thEmYCc3TDPesIw

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52365615_2271481569764011_2534581194893295616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=913f190963cf9421820eddb940194500&oe=5CDEB471
[Image: Joana Choumali]

[onawah]

Becoming Kali

You want to know
Power?
Stop spitting out
Your food
And eat!
Behold the banquet
Of density!
Eat the chaos
Be infused by
The force
That birthed this world into
Existence
Eat your struggle
Let it brand you
With
The unbound freedom
Of fire
Eat your exhaustion
Let it sand down
The jagged edges of your
Striving
Eat your losses
Let them open you
Into the clarity
Of empty space
Eat your regrets
Let them infuse you
With the blessing
Of unnameable perfection
Eat death
Let it scatter into the ashes
Of fertile ground
Eat your wound
Let it fill you with
The marrow of
Unconditional kindness
Eat your madness
Let it explode you into
The breathless beauty of stars
Eat your limitations
Let them press you
Into a radiant diamond
Eat your hurt
Eat your devastation
Eat your unbearable
Heart break
Swallow these poisons
Into the great heart
Bear down and birth
Your own deathless body
Your pain is the portal
To power

~ Art of Maya Luna
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/d2/2a/d1d22ab4945571b95fb86b3e7a628f3f.jpg
From: Cosmic Dancer https://www.facebook.com/thecosmicdancerpage/

[onawah]

Tribal Dance, Updated
The ancient forms of tribal dance and tribal music are being revived in some very original ways, but can be just as always, hypnotic and beautiful
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[EFO]

Bumping...and bringing in my small male-ish contribution :)

Interesting thread to read,but there are missing pieces...lost in time by politics and politicians/historians/clerics and other low grade entities,if I may say so.

When I was in primary school,in History manual there was a lesson,long enough for me to understand it at that time and no action to attract my attention,where was detailed how Matriarhat was in Neolithic and was supposed to be a peaceful society and describing how it was in those times and after that lesson the history lessons real were beginning.I don't remember what was written,only what I wrote.Sorry.Why I have this memory over years,I don't know.

Marija Gimbutas surfaced by her work a lot of artifacts proving that at specific time in history there was a women centered civilization.
The World of the Goddess - Marija Gimbutas
"An absorbing view of the culture, religious beliefs, symbolism and mythology of the prehistoric, pre-patriarchal cultures of Old Europe, who revered and celebrated the Great Goddess of Life, Death, and Regeneration in all her many forms, of plants, of stone, of animals and humans, by the scholar who has made the exploration of these cultures her life work.... The program is produced by William Free, producer of the acclaimed television series with Joseph Campbell, "Transformations of Myth through Time."

On Gimbutas:

Marija Gimbutas was a Lithuanian-American archeologist known for her research into the Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures of "Old Europe", a term she introduced. Her works published between 1946 and 1971 introduced new views by combining traditional spadework with linguistics and mythological interpretation."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU1bEmq_pf0

Voice of the Goddess: Marija Gimbutas
"A documentary about the world premiere of the Marija Gimbutas's book, Civilization of the Goddess. Produced and directed by Lollie Ragana for Santa Monica City TV. An ecstatic evening with a euphoric crowd as Marjia delivers what she considers the best talk she ever game. The documentary is supplemented by interviews with Starr Goode who produced the book event, and scholars and long time colleagues of Marija—Gloria Orenstein and Miriam Robbins Dexter."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k34hXty4iw

The Old Europe Lost Civilization Documentary Marija Gimbutas En Ita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8IZ6t40Lf0

and my final thought (I'm not a believer in religion or better say an "infidel" as Aragorn funny described me in one post :rofl: )

Groove Coverage - God is a Girl (Official Video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp53irFjzYg

One more thing to add:Maria Bitoi from OP is Romanian.

[onawah]

I LOVE Gimbutas's work! :heart:She practically rewrote history, and makes so much sense, though of course, her contribution has been vastly underrated and unrecognized.
I don't think patriarchy is natural to the human race, I think it's been imposed on us by the Reptilians, via the Annunaki, and her work supports that premise.
Thanks for adding her work to this thread, EFO.
For anyone who isn't familiar with her, she is similar to Z. Sitchin in the way of re-writing history, only none of her work was channeled, but was impeccably researched and documented.

Bumping...and bringing in my small male-ish contribution :)

Interesting thread to read,but there are missing pieces...lost in time by politics and politicians/historians/clerics and other low grade entities,if I may say so.

When I was in primary school,in History manual there was a lesson,long enough for me to understand it at that time and no action to attract my attention,where was detailed how Matriarhat was in Neolithic and was supposed to be a peaceful society and describing how it was in those times and after that lesson the history lessons real were beginning.I don't remember what was written,only what I wrote.Sorry.Why I have this memory over years,I don't know.

Marija Gimbutas surfaced by her work a lot of artifacts proving that at specific time in history there was a women centered civilization.
The World of the Goddess - Marija Gimbutas
"An absorbing view of the culture, religious beliefs, symbolism and mythology of the prehistoric, pre-patriarchal cultures of Old Europe, who revered and celebrated the Great Goddess of Life, Death, and Regeneration in all her many forms, of plants, of stone, of animals and humans, by the scholar who has made the exploration of these cultures her life work.... The program is produced by William Free, producer of the acclaimed television series with Joseph Campbell, "Transformations of Myth through Time."

On Gimbutas:

Marija Gimbutas was a Lithuanian-American archeologist known for her research into the Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures of "Old Europe", a term she introduced. Her works published between 1946 and 1971 introduced new views by combining traditional spadework with linguistics and mythological interpretation."
One more thing to add:Maria Bitoi from OP is Romanian.

[onawah]

Snowy day :smow:, stuck inside, watching Rachel Brice dance to help me go out of my head and into my body:
Rachel Brice paris performance 2005
Jan 30, 2007
jazzbellydancer
Of the Bellydance superstars live paris at the folies bergere 2005.
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RACHEL BRICE- Belly Dance Superstar
Feb 5, 2015
GERARD SCHMIDT
Rachel Brice in Montecarlo- Directed by Gerard Schmidt - Produced by BellydanceSuperstars
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( I love her strength, self-possession and sense of dignity. :flower:)

[onawah]

Shemakhinskaya Bayaderka Festival / Yana Kremneva / 2016
(Great precision, flexibility, presence, beauty...)

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Shemakhinskaya Bayaderka Festival / Agapia Savitskaya / 2017

(Very original fusion of different styles, ethnicities)
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Vintage Belly Dance by Alia - Queen of the Nile - Ruby RevueMay 28, 2014

(Suburb Shimmiers, frankly seductive... )
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Irina *DALIYA* Shevchenko - Show/Drum Solo/Warsaw (Poland)2018
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[onawah]

Kudos to Caitlin! I share her sentiments wholeheartedly..
So It Turns Out ‘Overpopulation’ Was Always A Stupid Patriarchal Myth
See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106650-The-thread-of-Caitlin-Johnstone-s-words&p=1367630&viewfull=1#post1367630