Can Dolores Cannon's work be trusted as truth?

[mindbend8r]

Dolores Cannon the hypnotist who claims when she put people under they gave messages from the peoples spirit guides and messages from the other side. It is hypnosis so im a skeptical about it cause your don't really know what is happening it could just be a response from the brain. I do wonder why the people give similar descriptions of the reason for life and life after death and how the spirit world works but maybe she unknowingly put suggestions into there mind without her even being aware.

Dolores Cannon says that everyone goes to heaven and that there is no hell, that is what the people tell her when they are under, but I was researching the Veda text and they describe that there is a hell and that there are different hell worlds in the afterlife that people go to if they were bad some hell planets worse then the other.

Obviously both cant be true, I think I would be more inclined to lean more towards the Veda description because its seems to be a very old ancient knowledge and it seems like it would be more accurate. I know the Vedas were written over centuries so im not sure if maybe later they added the hell description at a later time. Can the Vedas be trusted as a valid source of truth and can Dolores Cannons works be trusted as a source of truth. Cause even though they do intersect with some ideas such as ascension there are ideas that don't seem to align with each other. I guess im trying to find if there are dark hellish worlds that really exist and if people really go there when they die. Or no one goes to hell and goes back to there original spirit self when they die. Im conflicted in my thoughts about the subject.

[greybeard]

Here is a thought.
When a person dies without"Self realization" (Enlightenment) they are still in Maya --Samsara.
So the illusion of a separate person, karma, rebirth and all that applies in duality continues.
The enlightened have moved on from concepts ---silent awareness--one consciousness prevails.
Ancient text says "One without a second" that is very clear.
Ancient text also says re Krisna--"I reincarnate from time to time to ---cant find the quote
However a lot in Bhagavad Gita, about killing the "unjust" my words.
https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-bhagavad-gita/themes/reincarnation-and-the-self

So if you are enlightened definitely, no heaven or hell--no separate person to go there.
The un--enlightened may well end up in a heaven or hell of their own making bu thats within the illusion of the seperate self.
Jesus was clear too Heaven lies within--"Seek you first the Kingdom of Heaven" "The Kingdom of Heaven lies within"
So it ts available in this "life"
Dolores may well be correct in Maya.

Not saying im right--its a "May be so"

Chris

[mindbend8r]

Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

[greybeard]

Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

Your questions are very valid and I had these too.
There is no definitive answer--Im just joining dots as best I can
So this is just my best guess

An illusion is real--just not what it seems to be--the mirage in the desert for example.

The mystics say that the only thing that is eternal is Self.
If there is a judgment day then even up to the last moment one can ask for clemency which will be given.
That what Jesus said. as far as I remember Bible Study.

I believe in a "God" of love a non judgmental one.
So even if there is a hell then a loving God would ensure that the person would see "The error of their ways" and be released.

Hope this helps
Chris

[5th]

I'm prepared to go out on a limb here and state that the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Apart from the fact that one lifetime and then everlasting heaven or hell is laughingly simplistic you would have to believe in a pretty awful God to create such a reality. Heaven and hell as a concept are both within and have nothing to do with death. Since we create our own reality while alive, it may well be that we can do so after we die in which case brainwashed Muslims might meet Allah and brainwashed Christians might meet Jesus but as certain as can be, hell as in eternal damnation is a pea brained human construction.

[Bill Ryan]

the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Yes, 100% for sure.

[lunaflare]

I enjoyed the books by Dolores Cannon--they were enjoyably mind-expanding and there is wisdom in the experiences that she chronicled. I haven't read them all but the responses from others suggest her regression sessions and books have assisted many thousands of people to better understand the vast nature of reality. But "truth"? Well, that is subjective.

Heaven and Hell are certainly agents of control--in the religious sense, concepts which can create feelings of superiority and specialness or unbridled fear.

Surely one can look to this plane of existence-here on planet earth-- to see the potentiality of both heaven and hell. Seems very real --when Nature is thriving, unpolluted and organic, it is a heaven on earth.

The Vedic texts are also channelled material (by Rishis in states of meditation).

Yeah, I like the belief that the soul--the "I" in this earthly body is eternal...part of a changing cosmic consciousness...

[EFO]

Can Dolores Cannon's work be trusted as truth?

Always.

Try Alba Weinman instead.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3xe3Yz-4P__NZ9bSoIudQ/videos

[greybeard]

I dont have a problem with trusting Dolores Cannon's work.
She heard what she heard and recounted that--she did not make it up.
Is it true though?
The future is hypothetical so another may be so.
Her story is very positive--so thats good.

Ch

[5th]

the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Yes, 100% for sure.


Definition of hell:

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[Arcturian108]

Although I was trained by Dolores Cannon to be a hypnotherapist, and did occasionally use her methodology, I found her writing to be more like fantasy at times. If you are looking for some ideas concerning the afterlife experience, I trust Robert A. Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body: The Classic Work on Out-of-Body Experience 1992 more. He was so intimate with other realms and writes about it convincingly.

[enfoldedblue]

I am a Quantum Healer. I am trained in Beyond Quantum Healing which is a new deep hypnosis modality inspired by Delores's QHHT. What I have found through personal experience, client experience, and research is that 'hell' is really just a state of mind. We create our reality and thus can manifest 'hell' if we believe in it. However, this is not an independent objective reality hell, and we will only remain in that state until we eventually realize that it is of our making.

However, there are spaces, or realms that do seem to have a degree of more objective reality. From what I have seen there is the void...which is absolute pure nothingness...unending blackness. When consciousness experiences the void, the experience can range from absolute terror at the vastness and emptiness--- to absolute peace. Obviously the way we experience this state depends on our own inner state. The void will magnify this state out infinitely. For those who have achieved inner peace this will be beautiful. For those who have inner turmoil the experience will be nightmarish.

There is also another state/realm that seems to be one level up from the void. This is the gray space. This space is described as unending foggy grayness. There are absolutely no reference points, nothing to focus on..just unending gray mist. I had a client who found himself in this space. Fortunately I had read about this space and knew where he must be when he described it. For him it was absolutely neutral..not positive or negative, no time, nothing to do, nothing to worry about, no body..just grayness. From what I understand this is a realm that is pre-form. Nothing has crystallized into form. In the session we used the opportunity of being in this spce for some deep healing and re-setting. It was very potent.

However, I have read that some entities upon death can get stuck in this gray space and for them it can feel like a type of hell. For my client it felt like a brief reprieve from a busy and often chaotic life, but for those who end up stuck there the experience is often negative. Again this could have to do with their inner state. What is interesting is that I found a blog online (we'll see if I can find it again) of a woman who works with her deceased husband to rescue souls from this space. From what I read it seems that what they do is get the stuck being to begin to use their imagination. Imagination is the language of the soul and, though we don't give it much credence in this reality, it is the first step in creating worlds and universes.

[onawah]

Hell states are very real for the person who is stuck in them.
People who die suddenly under some kind of catastrophic circumstances, who are not at all prepared to make the transition to the other side, can get stuck in painful out of body states (some of them become ghosts).
I speak from experience, because I had a Near Death Experience in 1972, when I was struck by a hit and run driver when I was about to walk across a street.
Fortunately, there were 2 eyewitnesses who called an ambulance, otherwise I would have perished there on the street.
As it was, I maintained consciousness for a couple of minutes, then went unconscious until the ambulance arrived.
The ambulance attendants nearly killed me by giving me a shot of morphine so strong it nearly stopped my heart, and that was when I found myself in a terrifying, very painful black void.
I wasn't there long in ordinary time, but it felt like eternity.
Fortunately, the phone numbers of 2 friends were discovered and they were called, and came to the ER immediately.
They were both healers and very spiritual people, and I could feel them pulling me out of the void and back into my body.
I have no idea how long I might have remained there, and I will be eternally grateful to my 2 friends for being there for me.
I was hospitalized for 5 months with multiple broken bones and other injuries, but the pain and sorrow my injuries caused were nothing compared to the terror I felt in that black void.
And I didn't believe in hell either; in fact, I had been meditating and doing spiritual practice for some years before that, though I was exhausted at the time and not in a very good space.
I've read about spiritual workers who go to the sites of concentration camps to do healing work on the poor souls who perished there, and I honor them so much for doing that.
I would say that hell is not just a state of mind we create for ourselves, but that other people can create hell for us, too.

[neutronstar]

Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

Your questions are very valid and I had these too.
There is no definitive answer--Im just joining dots as best I can
So this is just my best guess

An illusion is real--just not what it seems to be--the mirage in the desert for example.

The mystics say that the only thing that is eternal is Self.
If there is a judgment day then even up to the last moment one can ask for clemency which will be given.
That what Jesus said. as far as I remember Bible Study.

I believe in a "God" of love a non judgmental one.
So even if there is a hell then a loving God would ensure that the person would see "The error of their ways" and be released.

Hope this helps
Chris

Hell is a place of healing for the troubled soul, but because those that are there are so dark, it seems like a very bad place to the average soul.

That is my view.

[James Newell]

Here is a little practical Re Hell: Stand up for a second, first thought now: Point to the location where Hell is, good, now point to the direction Heaven is. Good. Frankly, I would avoid those areas when you are ready to depart the body.

[Rhogar]

I think some of her theory has potential to be true like the three waves of volunteers which explains some of abnormality in certain people including myself,but the theory about the new earth, to me at least, is unacceptable just like ascension.also in my opinion heaven and hell created for controlling people.

[TomKat]

Dolores Cannon the hypnotist who claims when she put people under they gave messages from the peoples spirit guides and messages from the other side. It is hypnosis so im a skeptical about it cause your don't really know what is happening it could just be a response from the brain. I do wonder why the people give similar descriptions of the reason for life and life after death and how the spirit world works but maybe she unknowingly put suggestions into there mind without her even being aware.

Dolores Cannon says that everyone goes to heaven and that there is no hell, that is what the people tell her when they are under, but I was researching the Veda text and they describe that there is a hell and that there are different hell worlds in the afterlife that people go to if they were bad some hell planets worse then the other.

Obviously both cant be true, I think I would be more inclined to lean more towards the Veda description because its seems to be a very old ancient knowledge and it seems like it would be more accurate. I know the Vedas were written over centuries so im not sure if maybe later they added the hell description at a later time. Can the Vedas be trusted as a valid source of truth and can Dolores Cannons works be trusted as a source of truth. Cause even though they do intersect with some ideas such as ascension there are ideas that don't seem to align with each other. I guess im trying to find if there are dark hellish worlds that really exist and if people really go there when they die. Or no one goes to hell and goes back to there original spirit self when they die. Im conflicted in my thoughts about the subject.

Preston Dennett, an experienced astral projector, has a lot to say about it. Also check out Stuart Wilde. My take is that people like alcoholics, drug addicts, those of guilty conscience, the possessed, go to the hell they were in while alive but are trying to ignore. But nothing is permanent. A psychological condition while alive is a place when you are dead, a place you are already in while alive, but don't know it.

[Pam]

I don't think there is any intentional deception in the works of Delores Cannon. I can't speak for what she did before she became well known but I absolutely see her leading and suggesting in her later work. She obviously had some initial evidence that led her down this path. Also, those that chose to be hypnotized by her were also initiated into her work so of course they are going to be biased at some level. I am not saying anyone is consciously perpetuating her new world theory through deception, I think there is a huge influence from the power of belief and preconceived notions. I wonder what kind of results she would have gotten if she took someone off the streets that had never heard of her and wasn't into any new age concepts?

If you have die hard fans of Delores coming to be hypnotised and she is clearly leading them to expound on her agenda, I wonder how valuable that information is? Once again, I am not saying there is deception, I think belief and suggestion are strong elements here.



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[Justplain]

Although I am not familiar with Cannon's work, in the work of Michael Newton, 'Journey of Souls' and 'Destiny of Souls', the soul world sounds similar to Delores's version: non-judgemental, no hell, mostly fun and learning, etc. However, a drawback I found with Newton's work, and from what I've heard of Cannon's, is the lack of accounting for negative entities like archons/demons and/or evil aliens. I have become convinced that both of these evil groups are deeply involved in the human experience. To say that our hell here on Earth is of our own making is an extreme distortion, if not an outright lie.

Another interesting work is the channeled account of T. E. Lawrence ('Post-mortem Journal: Communications from Lawrence of Arabia Through the Mediumship of Jane Sherwood' ) in which he describes a shared reality that he was experiencing with other deceased humans. They lived in communities similar to on Earth and were occupied with trying to come to grips with their new reality. They didn't need food, worked at whatever was their desire (ie. there were universities on that plane) and when an individual passed away, they lit up like a lightbulb and then quickly faded away (ie. like an electron jumping quantum levels). My take on this is that in the afterlife, there are shared realities, just like this one, that are used by some/many/perhaps most souls in their journey back to their higher self. The work of Newton may just reflect the highest part of our consciousness immediately returning to Source soul schools, while the less evolved part of our consciousness has to go through intermediate levels to reach the same destination.

Our souls are very complex and powerful beings, I believe, as evidenced by our shared realities and near death/afterlife experiences. So, I would assume that if some hell world in the astral was deemed as needed, then it exists. Though the thought that it would be eternal is 'pea brained'.

Therefore, I would conclude that Cannon's work is 'filtered' and likely only reflects part of our souls' experiences here or in the afterlife. This is a difficult and complex topic. Another issue, is we know about 'soul harvesting' being conducted by evil aliens, and none of this accounted for in Cannon's, or Newton's, work. When all the evidence is considered, there isn't a fairy tale afterlife nor is there eternal damnation, just a lot of in-between.

[greybeard]

Neck on the line
The mystics say only one Soul.
That's Oneness--One without a second. (Non duality)
Now if this is so--all the rest is story time, play of consciousness---Maya.

Where the sofa till I get behind i, smiling

:behindsofa:


Chris

[WhiteFeather]

I have read several books by Grandma. I personally find her work to be truthful and heartfelt. I usually have a good spider sense of feelings for different people, As for Grandma I find her work to be valid. I do highly recommend some of her books, The Custodians, The Keepers of The Garden, All The Convoluted Universe Books. Some Great Reads if I may.

We are all 1 tribe.

W.f.

[Justplain]

Neck on the line
The mystics say only one Soul.
That's Oneness--One without a second. (Non duality)
Now if this is so--all the rest is story time, play of consciousness---Maya.

Where the sofa till I get behind i, smiling

:behindsofa:


Chris

Chris, this is a very complex topic. Certainly, at the core of cores of consciousness we are all one, the same consciousness getting to re-recognize itself with each blossoming soul who reaches self-realization.

However, the implementation of each soul and spirit is where the complexity lies. In Newton's research, for instance, he found that for every incarnation the soul left part of itself in the spirit world, which I would equate to our 'higher self'. He also found that a single soul could have multiple incarnations on this plane simultaneously, though this was rare.

Another thing to consider is spiritual 'bilocation'. Many mystics have reported being in more than one place at a time. I believe Yogananda reported this in his autobiography. Carlos Castaneda also reported this. Truman Cash recalled observing his body from a distance being abducted by greys (the question is whether it was his physical body or an astral).

The accounts seem to be telling us that humans are multi-dimensional beings, with multiple 'bodies', such as physical, astral and whatever comes after that. In 'A Dweller on Two Planets', the channelling soul claimed that after his death in a life in Atlantis, that he observed a copy of himself communicating with a live person he had known while alive, but the he couldn't communicate with either.

All of these accounts indicates to me that we have multiple spirit bodies that can operate independently, if the situation allows it, or for reasons hard to fathom. That is a way to explain why Cannon's and Newton's research differs so significantly from others. This also helps explain the variations in accounts. It would seem that the higher self soul has ties, and likely control, over all of these existences, meaning that our souls are incredibly complex and powerful.

Chris, I don't think this contradicts the 'we are one' reality, it's just a major wrinkle in what we need to start to understand with how our souls function.

[greybeard]

Justplain
Yes the topic is complex but Truth is simple.
The human mind loves complexity.
Its levels of consciousness.
So all that's aired in this topic is true at the level of duality and in this world that's what most of us have to deal with.
As long as there is the belief that there is more than one soul then enlightenment cant happen.
Thats according to Ramana Maharshi
Self realization is the discovery that there is only one Self
Its a bit like saying there is only the energy of electricity but it manifests at different voltages.
The best description of enlightenment to my mind is Tim's thread.
Everyone of course has to make their mind up about Dolores work--which is valid at one level or what the mystics say which is a different ball game.
Tim's thread located here.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...&p=456904&viewfull=1#post456904

[Justplain]

So, Chris, the soul is an enigma wrapped in a mystery? One of existence's paradoxes? It is definitely a paradox that something as incomprehensible as the multiverse, with it's incredibly intricate spirit carrying biological vessels (in each realm) can be simplified down to 'we are all one'.

The prime consciousness of our multiverse has deemed that this multiverse is the means to self discovery. By letting go of the ego and dissolving back to cosmic consciousness, this may show the way back to our source, but to my understanding, that is not the end of the process. We become soul conscious, not requiring further physical incarnations, but our work continues as we expand our consciousness further, on our way to becoming one with the prime source of all. Michael Newton's work exposed this evolution of the soul. Yoganada, in his interaction with his deceased guru, also confirms this. Ascended masters still have a long haul in the spirit world. That may be simplified to 'we are one soul', if you take a high enough birdseye view, but to me that doesn't give the journey its due respect. And, it's not something that our linear minds here in this realm, can comprehend either.

Justplain Alex

[greybeard]

Yes Alex
Truth in plain sight.
Mooji said that what took years in an ashram or monastery is available right now.
Its the evolution of restricted consciousness to know its full self.
Tim says it well.
Ive been posting videos of the enlightenedetc on Avalon almost daily for about 8 years,
Its not just one teacher talking about Self Realization but many--all saying the same thing.
Jesus said as much
"Wear the world like a loose garment"
You are the eternal Self.

Chris

[Pam]

Neck on the line
The mystics say only one Soul.
That's Oneness--One without a second. (Non duality)
Now if this is so--all the rest is story time, play of consciousness---Maya.

Where the sofa till I get behind i, smiling

:behindsofa:


Chris

I absolutely believe what you say is the ultimate truth...I guess the road back home is as convoluted and detailed as we want to make it...much love to you, Chris.

[Seabreeze]

Hi,

I read and listen to what Dolores had to say and will be doing a QHHT session next year myself. I need to find some answers to something which happened to me some years ago. The only practitioners who could help me, I believe, must be practitioners who practic QHHT sessions teached by Dolores Cannon. My case might includes a ET abduction and I dont know any other therapists who are firm in this subject. Dolores was the only one, as far as I know, and all her students did learn from her about this field also.

Her homepage is very interesting and you can find QHHT practitioners world wide here. After Dolores passed away in 2014, her daughter Julia continues to share Dolores’ legacy and journey by teaching QHHT®, editing Dolores’ new books yet to be published, and planning the future of Cannon University, Ozark Mountain Publishing and Quantum Healing Hypnosis Academy.

https://dolorescannon.com/about/

Dolores said, there is no death. We are all out of energy and energy never dies, it only moves or changes. She did lead many people into their past lives. She got many informations through those sessions about the ET presence and abduction cases also. I am looking forward to next year, when I will have my own session. I hope to find some answers there. We will see. ;)

[Justplain]

Hi,

I read and listen to what Dolores had to say and will be doing a QHHT session next year myself. I need to find some answers to something which happened to me some years ago. The only practitioners who could help me, I believe, must be practitioners who practic QHHT sessions teached by Dolores Cannon. My case might includes a ET abduction and I dont know any other therapists who are firm in this subject. Dolores was the only one, as far as I know, and all her students did learn from her about this field also.

Her homepage is very interesting and you can find QHHT practitioners world wide here. After Dolores passed away in 2014, her daughter Julia continues to share Dolores’ legacy and journey by teaching QHHT®, editing Dolores’ new books yet to be published, and planning the future of Cannon University, Ozark Mountain Publishing and Quantum Healing Hypnosis Academy.

https://dolorescannon.com/about/

Dolores said, there is no death. We are all out of energy and energy never dies, it only moves or changes. She did lead many people into their past lives. She got many informations through those sessions about the ET presence and abduction cases also. I am looking forward to next year, when I will have my own session. I hope to find some answers there. We will see. ;)

Hi Whisper, I would love to hear what Delores had to say about ET abductions. Further I'd love to hear what she thought of the demonic/archonic presence on Earth. There is almost incontrovertible evidence from regressed witness testimony that both of these presences here are to humanity's long lasting detriment.

In my opinion, it is a major miracle that humanity isn't in worse condition, much worse condition, than it is now, because of the negative influence of these two groups. To not understand this travesty, or to ignore it, is a major drawback in any spiritual teachers' work, IMHO.

We have to be extremely careful not to get herded into the trans-humanist paridigm, where we would lose our free will, which is the goal of the archonic/evil ET agenda. Creating this artificial intelligence run, cyborgic, trans-humanist 'unity' (notice the evil play on the spiritual 'unity' term) would turn us into servants, a slave race to be assimilated into a galactic collective, similar to the 'borg' (of star trek - next generation fame). This would be the death of humanity, and a spiritual dead end. This must be prevented at all cost.

[TrumanCash]

One of the problems with hypnotism is that it is very difficult to see through screen memories as well as present time telepathic illusions. Negative ETs are responsible for creating most religions on Earth and creating the heaven and hell deception. These negative ETs create false memories and illusions, often called "screen memories" to manipulate Earth humans.

As I discovered in my own research and documented in THE EYE OF RA in the 90's, the going-to-the-light phenomenon is a technological and telepathic illusion created by the Mantis beings to instill false religious ideas and to operate an artificial reincarnation system. The Mantis work with other ET groups such as the Anunnaki, Grays, and Reptilians. The manipulative ETs are also involved with channeling disinformation as I personally discovered.

A technique for seeing through screen illusions was discovered by Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic in the early years of abduction research. However, it is much easier accomplished using non-hypnotic techniques.

[Seabreeze]

Hi Justplain,

I do not believe into the so called "Evil Et*s", which got created mainly by the mass media..TV, books aso. Proably to get us ready for their upcoming Blue Beam action to implement the NWO. Carol Rosin for example talks about it.

Who mainly creats bad and negative things are evil humans, I believe. But in many case they prefer to blame ET*s for their own doings.

What Dolores discovered by her sessions with abductees show*s in no cases there ever was done any major harm to the abductuees. Only their own memory and fantasy misunderstood at lot, what was actually going on at the abduction because part of it was blocked or deleted...which is common.

Many of them found out by the session, what really happend..and that it was and is nothing to fear about at all. Dolores also said : The ET*s only check on their own people - the star seeds - which is necessary once in a while. Star seeds or Volunteers are special souls which got implemented on planet earth to help humanity and earth to shift to the next dimension towards a new consciousness. It is all in the net and you can look it up. Check it out - it is very interesting. ;)

Dolores talking to the star seeds or volunteers :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fvrQT0_4lY



PS. my own expieriences I had so far about ET contacts just match what Dolores says also. I am not afraid of them at all. I see them as friends or relatives from far away.......

[TomKat]

One of the problems with hypnotism is that it is very difficult to see through screen memories as well as present time telepathic illusions. Negative ETs are responsible for creating most religions on Earth and creating the heaven and hell deception. These negative ETs create false memories and illusions, often called "screen memories" to manipulate Earth humans.

As I discovered in my own research and documented in THE EYE OF RA in the 90's, the going-to-the-light phenomenon is a technological and telepathic illusion created by the Mantis beings to instill false religious ideas and to operate an artificial reincarnation system. The Mantis work with other ET groups such as the Anunnaki, Grays, and Reptilians. The manipulative ETs are also involved with channeling disinformation as I personally discovered.

A technique for seeing through screen illusions was discovered by Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic in the early years of abduction research. However, it is much easier accomplished using non-hypnotic techniques.

The Ra Material and Law of One writings are reptilian, no?

[Forest Denizen]

The Ra Material and Law of One writings are reptilian, no?

No. While I am aware that there are clearly "problems" with a lot of channeled material, I have always felt The Law of One information to be very significant. Have you read all of the Ra Material? It is fascinating and was, I believe, brought about by a somewhat fleeting and unique set of congruencies/synchronicities. The ultimate message is very similar to that imparted by a number of "Ascended Masters" throughout our known history: love, forgive, MEDITATE! Look within for "God/Truth/the Divine.."

:heart::heart::heart:

[enfoldedblue]

It's true...we are incredibly complex creatures existing within a complex multidimensional reality. I have discovered however that when we allow the heart to guide we see powerful healing. That is my gauge... does the client feel more whole and integrated..do they feel clearer, happier, more able to navigate life successfully...if so... then the work is valuable.

Even entity removal can be done with love. A couple weeks ago i had a client with an entity he had picked up as a child. This entity was powerful and had placed himself as a protector within the client's system. However, the entity could be very heavy handed...and when he stepped into the driver's seat he made the client act in ways that were quite out of character. We established the entity wasn't a dark force entity... it definitely wasn't heart focused.... but wasn't fuly dark. He did not want to leave the client's system as he was convinced that the client was too transparent and trusting and that he would suffer without his protection. When he had joined with the client the client was 5 and being abused. Once i explained to him that while his assistance may have been helpfull in the past, now his presence was depriving my cliient from fully stepping into his power. Once he understood this he was willing to detach.
The client later reported that he initially felt a little nervous in situations where this entity used to step in... but he was quickly adjusting ahd enjoying the process of learning to protect his boundaries himself..in ways that were more aligned with his own heart and soul.

[Hervé]

[...]
Even entity removal can be done with love....

[...]
That reminded me of this post:


From theory to practice in a way which somehow parallels NancyV's "evolution" on her exploration of the phenomena excepted that, instead of being first-hand, it's experienced remotely:

Rummaging around posts, threads, fora and websites...

I ran into this on the "Soul Rescue (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/index.htm)" site:


Firstly, Patrick seems to be a tremendously compassionate, and convenient, healer. He works indirectly through a medium who speaks directly to the spirits and the spirit body of the customer, speaks what she sees, while Patrick comments on what he's sensing/seeing as he communicates through her to the spirits. He has a certain tact and impeccability so the conversation flows quite well and there is no hint of him being flustered.

For example, I was supposedly tagged by a raging, violent man when I was 10 because I didn't understand why no one could see me for who I was. On top of this the dead dude was himself possessed by two demons. And yet, the workers, as Patrick terms the demons (since they are all "employed"), were told by Pat that they had done a wonderful job. I thought this was a funny angle to take. He then told them that the Angels would be more than happy to show them even more fun work to do. And, supposedly, eager to pursue their self-interest, they left. This filled the dead dude with so much joy that he voluntarily left as well. After reading on spirit release I wasn't too surprised by any of it, and it was a typical textbook release. Stranger than fiction though!!

Secondly, there was no hypnosis required at all, and anyone can call in for a phone conference from just about anywhere while Patrick and his medium do their work.... and this:


Patrick: I was already involved in doing emotional release, hypnotherapy, this type of thing and kind of combining all of these things and so it just made sense to me to help these spirits in a therapeutic way. I kept wanting to find out so it just came to me to use the emotions and energy and the emotions of energy. So, that's how it started with doing like these therapy sessions for lost souls and then when we started getting into seeing people with attachments, it was very evident because what she would see was an intermixing or an intertwining of energy and the way she described it is like you have the aura or energy of the living person was intertwined with the aura or the energy of the spirit. The longer the spirit had been attached, the more intertwined the energy fibers were. So by focusing on the emotions, releasing the emotions is what released the energy. That's how we proceeded with the spirit release. When it came to demons, what she noticed was that they all had jobs. That just made sense to me. I was like oh, okay, rather than deal with this good/bad, because I know there are a lot of methodologies of "well you know you're doing bad and you know you're doing this to the person", it just made sense of "hey, you're doing a good job of what you do here".

Patrick: That was information and it was like "can we offer you a better job?" "Can we offer you better real estate?" We were doing that for a while and that was effective but eventually she started channeling a spirit guide that said basically "I heard your call from the universe and I'm here to try and help out". It was an amazing experience for like two or three years several times a week. It was like going to college for spirit release and stuff like this. It was like take notes, it was do this, it was like this professor that she channeled that would say it's like this. So I just learned that way.

What the working model is: we have fallen angels. Fallen angels employ beings if you will. I call them workers. And they come as a way to resonate with hurts and pains. So you have a person that goes through something really traumatic in one life or another or even this life. It's like I don't ever want this to happen again and that's a key difference. It's not: I want this or I want that. It's: I don't want this or I don't want that. That's when the call comes in, workers are put in "yeah I resonate with your pain" and then the workers are put in so that he doesn't have to feel that pain. It just developed over time, like the how to's, the working model developed. But it's all revolved around emotions which correspond to energy.

[...]

And I imagine it's probably a very similar fear where there's so much hype around it. But when you get down to it, it's a perspective thing. But it also is very real. So, it is real, it is real.

The Catholic exorcism ritual, and this is like a very step by step like a recipe doing an exorcism and I'm not sure if most people even understand that, it's first you do this, then you do that, then you do this. It's a very antagonistic ritual.

You tie the person to the bed, get someone to hold the person down, it's traumatic to the person that's actually receiving the service. The life expectancy of Catholic priests that make this a career choice is one of the shortest life expectancies too. Having said that, what I call workers is what other people will refer to as demons. It is my belief that when I deal with workers, these are the same types of beings that will throw a Catholic priest against the wall. That is my belief. I've never been thrown against the wall. I have had some kind of uncomfortable experiences.

[...]

I do believe that they do exist and I believe that our way of working with the "demons" is highly, highly, highly respectful. Our way of working with fallen angels is highly respectful. One thing I kind of find weird about my own way of talking is that I've noticed that I seem to speak in a different way when I'm talking to fallen angels. It's like I go into an old English way of speaking, it's really weird. I'm always like, what's that about? But it's very, very, very respectful and I believe that's what keeps us safe. I was talking about the spirit guide that was doing this training with us.

Now one of the things that he would tell me over and over and over again is you have to come naked. I was like: "what does that mean?" Because at this time we would use candles and try to do these invocations of protection. Then he goes: "When you're dealing with these levels of beings, the fallen angel, now you have to come naked" and I was scared to even like -- not take notes -- because I'm always taking notes and things like that. But when it comes to fallen angles, I make sure to clear my lap, clear my mind and it's just be in a state of being and he use to say: "At this level, you cannot do, you must be."

[...]

Patrick: I believe that all of us have some kind of attachments. Where there is suppressed energy, we have energy disruption. Where we have disruptions, we will have like a beacon for earthbound spirits. Most spirits that come to us, people think "oh it's a haunting". Most spirits I've found are like: "Oh, I feel your pain, I have that same pain too!" and it's more of a resonating energy, not a haunting per say.

Now let's talk about fallen angels and demons if you will. Most people have some kind of an automatic behaviour that they don't like. Road rage; so someone cuts them off on the freeway. I live in Los Angeles by the way so I'm very familiar with this concept. Someone cuts you off on the freeway, but there are some people that just go berserk and it's like someone attacked them personally and we all have this or many of us have this automatic behaviour. For some people its freeway, for some people it might be a crying baby. What it does is that triggers a hurt inside and it's not that that person cut someone off or cut them off. It's all the injustices that they've ever had are now triggering those demons inside and that's a very quick way to tell, not if you have a demon, but where you have a demon. I think many, many, many of us have demons and fallen angels attached. But that's my working model. I don't necessarily know if it's real, but it seems to be very consistent with the work.

[...]

Q: ... it does seem that at some point at least everyone has them, also assuming that most of them are earthbound spirits so they would once have been incorporeal on this plane of reality, then the kind of numbers you're talking about, it seems in my mind, are huge! We've got seven billion people on the planet today: are we talking about billions upon billions of previously lived lives that are still bound to this planet?

Patrick: That's why I keep coming back to 'the working model, the working model, the working model'. I don't want to make the reality or try to impose a reality on someone or have someone believe something. If anything, it's like if you're someone that's drawn to this subject, if you're someone that can see spirits, please get the manual because you'll just find your life become so much easier. If you're someone that you're afraid to turn off the TV at night, if you're afraid to turn off the lights when you go to sleep, please get the manual. That's really the reality that I offer, not the reality that billions of spirits exist. Does that make sense?

The above give real life examples of most of the points summarized by Bill and it is interesting to find a congruence of methods and state of mind in the therapies which yield the best results (see the similarity between Patrick's work (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/index.htm) and Steve Richards' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)).

[enfoldedblue]

[...]
Even entity removal can be done with love....

[...]
That reminded me of this post:


From theory to practice in a way which somehow parallels NancyV's "evolution" on her exploration of the phenomena excepted that, instead of being first-hand, it's experienced remotely:

Rummaging around posts, threads, fora and websites...

I ran into this on the "Soul Rescue (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/index.htm)" site:


Firstly, Patrick seems to be a tremendously compassionate, and convenient, healer. He works indirectly through a medium who speaks directly to the spirits and the spirit body of the customer, speaks what she sees, while Patrick comments on what he's sensing/seeing as he communicates through her to the spirits. He has a certain tact and impeccability so the conversation flows quite well and there is no hint of him being flustered.

For example, I was supposedly tagged by a raging, violent man when I was 10 because I didn't understand why no one could see me for who I was. On top of this the dead dude was himself possessed by two demons. And yet, the workers, as Patrick terms the demons (since they are all "employed"), were told by Pat that they had done a wonderful job. I thought this was a funny angle to take. He then told them that the Angels would be more than happy to show them even more fun work to do. And, supposedly, eager to pursue their self-interest, they left. This filled the dead dude with so much joy that he voluntarily left as well. After reading on spirit release I wasn't too surprised by any of it, and it was a typical textbook release. Stranger than fiction though!!

Secondly, there was no hypnosis required at all, and anyone can call in for a phone conference from just about anywhere while Patrick and his medium do their work.... and this:


Patrick: I was already involved in doing emotional release, hypnotherapy, this type of thing and kind of combining all of these things and so it just made sense to me to help these spirits in a therapeutic way. I kept wanting to find out so it just came to me to use the emotions and energy and the emotions of energy. So, that's how it started with doing like these therapy sessions for lost souls and then when we started getting into seeing people with attachments, it was very evident because what she would see was an intermixing or an intertwining of energy and the way she described it is like you have the aura or energy of the living person was intertwined with the aura or the energy of the spirit. The longer the spirit had been attached, the more intertwined the energy fibers were. So by focusing on the emotions, releasing the emotions is what released the energy. That's how we proceeded with the spirit release. When it came to demons, what she noticed was that they all had jobs. That just made sense to me. I was like oh, okay, rather than deal with this good/bad, because I know there are a lot of methodologies of "well you know you're doing bad and you know you're doing this to the person", it just made sense of "hey, you're doing a good job of what you do here".

Patrick: That was information and it was like "can we offer you a better job?" "Can we offer you better real estate?" We were doing that for a while and that was effective but eventually she started channeling a spirit guide that said basically "I heard your call from the universe and I'm here to try and help out". It was an amazing experience for like two or three years several times a week. It was like going to college for spirit release and stuff like this. It was like take notes, it was do this, it was like this professor that she channeled that would say it's like this. So I just learned that way.

What the working model is: we have fallen angels. Fallen angels employ beings if you will. I call them workers. And they come as a way to resonate with hurts and pains. So you have a person that goes through something really traumatic in one life or another or even this life. It's like I don't ever want this to happen again and that's a key difference. It's not: I want this or I want that. It's: I don't want this or I don't want that. That's when the call comes in, workers are put in "yeah I resonate with your pain" and then the workers are put in so that he doesn't have to feel that pain. It just developed over time, like the how to's, the working model developed. But it's all revolved around emotions which correspond to energy.

[...]

And I imagine it's probably a very similar fear where there's so much hype around it. But when you get down to it, it's a perspective thing. But it also is very real. So, it is real, it is real.

The Catholic exorcism ritual, and this is like a very step by step like a recipe doing an exorcism and I'm not sure if most people even understand that, it's first you do this, then you do that, then you do this. It's a very antagonistic ritual.

You tie the person to the bed, get someone to hold the person down, it's traumatic to the person that's actually receiving the service. The life expectancy of Catholic priests that make this a career choice is one of the shortest life expectancies too. Having said that, what I call workers is what other people will refer to as demons. It is my belief that when I deal with workers, these are the same types of beings that will throw a Catholic priest against the wall. That is my belief. I've never been thrown against the wall. I have had some kind of uncomfortable experiences.

[...]

I do believe that they do exist and I believe that our way of working with the "demons" is highly, highly, highly respectful. Our way of working with fallen angels is highly respectful. One thing I kind of find weird about my own way of talking is that I've noticed that I seem to speak in a different way when I'm talking to fallen angels. It's like I go into an old English way of speaking, it's really weird. I'm always like, what's that about? But it's very, very, very respectful and I believe that's what keeps us safe. I was talking about the spirit guide that was doing this training with us.

Now one of the things that he would tell me over and over and over again is you have to come naked. I was like: "what does that mean?" Because at this time we would use candles and try to do these invocations of protection. Then he goes: "When you're dealing with these levels of beings, the fallen angel, now you have to come naked" and I was scared to even like -- not take notes -- because I'm always taking notes and things like that. But when it comes to fallen angles, I make sure to clear my lap, clear my mind and it's just be in a state of being and he use to say: "At this level, you cannot do, you must be."

[...]

Patrick: I believe that all of us have some kind of attachments. Where there is suppressed energy, we have energy disruption. Where we have disruptions, we will have like a beacon for earthbound spirits. Most spirits that come to us, people think "oh it's a haunting". Most spirits I've found are like: "Oh, I feel your pain, I have that same pain too!" and it's more of a resonating energy, not a haunting per say.

Now let's talk about fallen angels and demons if you will. Most people have some kind of an automatic behaviour that they don't like. Road rage; so someone cuts them off on the freeway. I live in Los Angeles by the way so I'm very familiar with this concept. Someone cuts you off on the freeway, but there are some people that just go berserk and it's like someone attacked them personally and we all have this or many of us have this automatic behaviour. For some people its freeway, for some people it might be a crying baby. What it does is that triggers a hurt inside and it's not that that person cut someone off or cut them off. It's all the injustices that they've ever had are now triggering those demons inside and that's a very quick way to tell, not if you have a demon, but where you have a demon. I think many, many, many of us have demons and fallen angels attached. But that's my working model. I don't necessarily know if it's real, but it seems to be very consistent with the work.

[...]

Q: ... it does seem that at some point at least everyone has them, also assuming that most of them are earthbound spirits so they would once have been incorporeal on this plane of reality, then the kind of numbers you're talking about, it seems in my mind, are huge! We've got seven billion people on the planet today: are we talking about billions upon billions of previously lived lives that are still bound to this planet?

Patrick: That's why I keep coming back to 'the working model, the working model, the working model'. I don't want to make the reality or try to impose a reality on someone or have someone believe something. If anything, it's like if you're someone that's drawn to this subject, if you're someone that can see spirits, please get the manual because you'll just find your life become so much easier. If you're someone that you're afraid to turn off the TV at night, if you're afraid to turn off the lights when you go to sleep, please get the manual. That's really the reality that I offer, not the reality that billions of spirits exist. Does that make sense?

The above give real life examples of most of the points summarized by Bill and it is interesting to find a congruence of methods and state of mind in the therapies which yield the best results (see the similarity between Patrick's work (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/index.htm) and Steve Richards' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)).

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Herve. I love to read as much as I can on this subject. Here is one of my favorite books on the subject... https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lost-Souls-Releasing-Unwanted/dp/1571743669/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1544934669&sr=1-2

[Seabreeze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orxEawi9qro :flower:

[Forest Denizen]

It's true...we are incredibly complex creatures existing within a complex multidimensional reality. I have discovered however that when we allow the heart to guide we see powerful healing. That is my gauge... does the client feel more whole and integrated..do they feel clearer, happier, more able to navigate life successfully...if so... then the work is valuable.

Even entity removal can be done with love..

Enfoldedblue, I checked out the website in your signature line. Your artwork is Beautiful!!
Love,
Ken

:flower::flower:

[Pam]

It's true...we are incredibly complex creatures existing within a complex multidimensional reality. I have discovered however that when we allow the heart to guide we see powerful healing. That is my gauge... does the client feel more whole and integrated..do they feel clearer, happier, more able to navigate life successfully...if so... then the work is valuable.

Even entity removal can be done with love. A couple weeks ago i had a client with an entity he had picked up as a child. This entity was powerful and had placed himself as a protector within the client's system. However, the entity could be very heavy handed...and when he stepped into the driver's seat he made the client act in ways that were quite out of character. We established the entity wasn't a dark force entity... it definitely wasn't heart focused.... but wasn't fuly dark. He did not want to leave the client's system as he was convinced that the client was too transparent and trusting and that he would suffer without his protection. When he had joined with the client the client was 5 and being abused. Once i explained to him that while his assistance may have been helpfull in the past, now his presence was depriving my cliient from fully stepping into his power. Once he understood this he was willing to detach.
The client later reported that he initially felt a little nervous in situations where this entity used to step in... but he was quickly adjusting ahd enjoying the process of learning to protect his boundaries himself..in ways that were more aligned with his own heart and soul.

Can you tell me how you identify the entity as something outside of self, rather than an aspect of self? I have observed within myself very different aspects that seem to come forth based on different situations, yet I don't believe they are outside entities.I mainly notice the distinction when having to cope with stressful situations. Thanks for your very interesting post, enfoldedblue.

[enfoldedblue]

It's true...we are incredibly complex creatures existing within a complex multidimensional reality. I have discovered however that when we allow the heart to guide we see powerful healing. That is my gauge... does the client feel more whole and integrated..do they feel clearer, happier, more able to navigate life successfully...if so... then the work is valuable.

Even entity removal can be done with love. A couple weeks ago i had a client with an entity he had picked up as a child. This entity was powerful and had placed himself as a protector within the client's system. However, the entity could be very heavy handed...and when he stepped into the driver's seat he made the client act in ways that were quite out of character. We established the entity wasn't a dark force entity... it definitely wasn't heart focused.... but wasn't fuly dark. He did not want to leave the client's system as he was convinced that the client was too transparent and trusting and that he would suffer without his protection. When he had joined with the client the client was 5 and being abused. Once i explained to him that while his assistance may have been helpfull in the past, now his presence was depriving my cliient from fully stepping into his power. Once he understood this he was willing to detach.
The client later reported that he initially felt a little nervous in situations where this entity used to step in... but he was quickly adjusting ahd enjoying the process of learning to protect his boundaries himself..in ways that were more aligned with his own heart and soul.

Can you tell me how you identify the entity as something outside of self, rather than an aspect of self? I have observed within myself very different aspects that seem to come forth based on different situations, yet I don't believe they are outside entities.I mainly notice the distinction when having to cope with stressful situations. Thanks for your very interesting post, enfoldedblue.

Hi peterpam, Yes we all have what some people call subpersonalities, aspects. There is a great psychological framework called Internal Family Systems that describes this well. Subpersonalites can be in different states ranging from fully integrated to completely exiled (completely repressed).

Attached entities are different. A way that you can tell as a practitioner is by asking the entity when it joined with the client. To an aspect that is part of the client's system this question will not make sense. But an attached entity will have a life before and after joining with the client.

[TomKat]

The Ra Material and Law of One writings are reptilian, no?

No. While I am aware that there are clearly "problems" with a lot of channeled material, I have always felt The Law of One information to be very significant. Have you read all of the Ra Material? It is fascinating and was, I believe, brought about by a somewhat fleeting and unique set of congruencies/synchronicities. The ultimate message is very similar to that imparted by a number of "Ascended Masters" throughout our known history: love, forgive, MEDITATE! Look within for "God/Truth/the Divine.."

:heart::heart::heart:

Well said. Yet I believe all that Ascended Master stuff is reptillian programming. Gary Douglas (Access Consciousness) told me that, and I think he's right.

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It's true...we are incredibly complex creatures existing within a complex multidimensional reality. I have discovered however that when we allow the heart to guide we see powerful healing. That is my gauge... does the client feel more whole and integrated..do they feel clearer, happier, more able to navigate life successfully...if so... then the work is valuable.

Even entity removal can be done with love. A couple weeks ago i had a client with an entity he had picked up as a child. This entity was powerful and had placed himself as a protector within the client's system. However, the entity could be very heavy handed...and when he stepped into the driver's seat he made the client act in ways that were quite out of character. We established the entity wasn't a dark force entity... it definitely wasn't heart focused.... but wasn't fuly dark. He did not want to leave the client's system as he was convinced that the client was too transparent and trusting and that he would suffer without his protection. When he had joined with the client the client was 5 and being abused. Once i explained to him that while his assistance may have been helpfull in the past, now his presence was depriving my cliient from fully stepping into his power. Once he understood this he was willing to detach.
The client later reported that he initially felt a little nervous in situations where this entity used to step in... but he was quickly adjusting ahd enjoying the process of learning to protect his boundaries himself..in ways that were more aligned with his own heart and soul.

Can you tell me how you identify the entity as something outside of self, rather than an aspect of self? I have observed within myself very different aspects that seem to come forth based on different situations, yet I don't believe they are outside entities.I mainly notice the distinction when having to cope with stressful situations. Thanks for your very interesting post, enfoldedblue.

Well, when the entity is within you, it is an aspect of self. When it leaves, it is an outside entity, and you are MORE yourself.

[enfoldedblue]

"Well, when the entity is within you, it is an aspect of self. When it leaves, it is an outside entity, and you are MORE yourself. " Tomkat

This does not align with any expert opinions that i have read, or with my own experience. Even according to IFS which is a mainstream recognized psychological modality, there is a big difference between aspects that are naturally part of a person's system and attached entities.

Aspects that belong to a person's inner system all hold the same soul-energy signature, an attached entity will not have the same signature. Internal harmony and integrity cannot be achieved when an entity with a different signature is onboard. People heal in potent and dramatic ways when attached entities are released.

[Pam]

"Well, when the entity is within you, it is an aspect of self. When it leaves, it is an outside entity, and you are MORE yourself. " Tomkat

This does not align with any expert opinions that i have read, or with my own experience. Even according to IFS which is a mainstream recognized psychological modality, there is a big difference between aspects that are naturally part of a person's system and attached entities.

Aspects that belong to a person's inner system all hold the same soul-energy signature, an attached entity will not have the same signature. Internal harmony and integrity cannot be achieved when an entity with a different signature is onboard. People heal in potent and dramatic ways when attached entities are released.

If I can ask you another question? How does one get attached entities?

[enfoldedblue]

"Well, when the entity is within you, it is an aspect of self. When it leaves, it is an outside entity, and you are MORE yourself. " Tomkat

This does not align with any expert opinions that i have read, or with my own experience. Even according to IFS which is a mainstream recognized psychological modality, there is a big difference between aspects that are naturally part of a person's system and attached entities.

Aspects that belong to a person's inner system all hold the same soul-energy signature, an attached entity will not have the same signature. Internal harmony and integrity cannot be achieved when an entity with a different signature is onboard. People heal in potent and dramatic ways when attached entities are released.

If I can ask you another question? How does one get attached entities?

Entitites commonly attach during traumatic experiences, when our energy fields are weak. They are usually attracted by an energy pattern we hold that matches one they hold.

It can get quite complex as entities aren't always earth bound spirits, they can also be a fragment of a living person, as well as dark force entities. Different entitites will attach for different reasons. Dark force entities often attach for a specific reason. For example they often target specific positions that assist their agenda...eg high political, military, hollywood etc.

With fragments of living consciousness, the usually attach out of unhealthy love situations.

[Andre]

I do think that sometimes we place too much separation between life and death. Some people are living in hell on the Earth plane while others feel like they are in heaven on this plane. My view is that for most it is no different when you pass over.

[Justplain]

Hi Justplain,

I do not believe into the so called "Evil Et*s", which got created mainly by the mass media..TV, books aso. Proably to get us ready for their upcoming Blue Beam action to implement the NWO. Carol Rosin for example talks about it.

Who mainly creats bad and negative things are evil humans, I believe. But in many case they prefer to blame ET*s for their own doings.

What Dolores discovered by her sessions with abductees show*s in no cases there ever was done any major harm to the abductuees. Only their own memory and fantasy misunderstood at lot, what was actually going on at the abduction because part of it was blocked or deleted...which is common.

Many of them found out by the session, what really happend..and that it was and is nothing to fear about at all. Dolores also said : The ET*s only check on their own people - the star seeds - which is necessary once in a while. Star seeds or Volunteers are special souls which got implemented on planet earth to help humanity and earth to shift to the next dimension towards a new consciousness. It is all in the net and you can look it up. Check it out - it is very interesting. ;)

Dolores talking to the star seeds or volunteers :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fvrQT0_4lY



PS. my own expieriences I had so far about ET contacts just match what Dolores says also. I am not afraid of them at all. I see them as friends or relatives from far away.......

Sorry, Whisper, but I believe that you are misinformed about the alien presence here on Earth. I would suggest you read some of Truman Cash's research on abductions (he posted links to his free books in his post earlier in this thread) and you will see that there are terrible, painful procedures being done to abductees by these aliens.

I myself have had painful experiences with aliens. I awoke screaming in the astral when a bluish grey was sucking something out of my left leg (it immediately knocked me out). I have numerous small triangular scars on both my thighs from these creeps.

For another interesting discourse on the alien agenda, this one is very informative by Linda Moulton Howe:

rImxgmeC3C0

[onawah]

I saw Cannon up close and in person at a few of the annual UFO Conferences.
I also know a woman who used to attend a women's group that Dolores was part of.
She was certainly very knowledgeable, though not a heart-centered woman, very authoritarian, and quite demanding behind the scenes.
I never got a good feeling about her, and a lot of the women in the group, according to my friend, were, in the long run, quite dismayed by her hubris, and lost faith in her as a teacher.
Intuitively, I just did not trust her information, either.



Hi Whisper, I would love to hear what Delores had to say about ET abductions. Further I'd love to hear what she thought of the demonic/archonic presence on Earth. There is almost incontrovertible evidence from regressed witness testimony that both of these presences here are to humanity's long lasting detriment.

In my opinion, it is a major miracle that humanity isn't in worse condition, much worse condition, than it is now, because of the negative influence of these two groups. To not understand this travesty, or to ignore it, is a major drawback in any spiritual teachers' work, IMHO.

We have to be extremely careful not to get herded into the trans-humanist paridigm, where we would lose our free will, which is the goal of the archonic/evil ET agenda. Creating this artificial intelligence run, cyborgic, trans-humanist 'unity' (notice the evil play on the spiritual 'unity' term) would turn us into servants, a slave race to be assimilated into a galactic collective, similar to the 'borg' (of star trek - next generation fame). This would be the death of humanity, and a spiritual dead end. This must be prevented at all cost.

I agree with you Justplain, and the Wingmaker material, which I've been re-reading, concurs. The following, from pages 42-44 of the 5th Interview in the Wingmaker material at:
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf ...presents quite a departure from the usual perspective on spiritual teachings.
Though in other parts of the interview, it is acknowledged that the spiritual teachings over the ages have contained Truth, and that there have been avatars who have known the Truth, but that their teachings have been distorted, watered down and edited.
The following is the strongest statement I have seen so far in this material about what has been missing:

"Dr. Neruda: “Everyone has thoughts and emotions. Everyone shares a reality called earth and the human body. We’re all on the same stage, playing different roles, but the stage unifies us to some degree. None of us can look across the stage and see a beautiful world of peace and harmony, or goodwill to all men. It isn’t the reality that encompasses us.
“The question is how do we move closer to a reality that supports our most innate truth, that I AM WE ARE? How do we create a stage and write a play that supports our transformation into the Sovereign Integral that is in fact what we each are? Has religion shown the way? Has spirituality? How about science? How about our education system? Government?
“My point is that nothing that is currently in play is uniting us in equality and oneness. If you look at everything in your world after you read this interview, you will see that our world is designed for a very specific function, and this function is to feel separation. It can be as obvious as the color of skin, gender and different cultures, to the subtler distinctions between religions and spirituality, but the design is fractal and it infuses everything in this world in this common unity I have called separation. Ironically, our unity is separation.“If you agree, if you also see or sense this separation, you might also decide that it’s escalating, not moving in the direction of unity, but further towards diversification and distinction, as if the more granular humanity becomes in its information access and expression, the more it drifts apart into clumps of similarity that feign unity within the clump, but expresses separation to the whole.
“The leaders of this world, whether they come from political, economic, military, religious or cultural perspectives, know how to speak the language of unity and oneness, but their actions are the result of programs that often act in reverse. This isn’t about thoughts and language. This is about behaviors and actions. People know how to disconnect from their thoughts and say one thing, and then do another. They know how to feign care, but their actions demonstrate hollowness.
“This is not an indictment to every standing solution, but nothing has worked. Religion’s failure has birthed the nihilistic and disillusioned organizations of darkness and occult experimentation. They feed off one another. It’s symbiotic survival. But what is lost in this is the reality that confusion and disaffection reaches into the world’s populations and dulls our collective minds and hearts.
“There is hope. Hope resides in the vacuum of unity and oneness that is unaligned to anything on this planet—no one owns it or controls it or administers it. There is no mediation or go between. It is completely unique. For all intents and purposes, it has never been seen or heard. It is on the other side of the wall. This is our hope, as foreign and strange as it may seem.
“What is in this world is not working, and it is because of separation. I don’t care if you read the most esoteric, spiritual information on this planet, it is of separation. I’ve read esoteric spiritual documents over the past twenty years that would make most people swoon and say to themselves ‘this is the highest information’ or ‘this information is true because it is so detailed, no one could possibly know this much detail unless it was true.’
“The most esoteric information on this planet was not written by human beings, but through human beings vis-à-vis channeling. The channeling speaks of wonderful spiritual realities, of how humans and aliens are one, of how the deep psychology of human beings is constructed, of the complex cosmological environment in which humanity is nested. All wonderfulinformation except no one mentions how we are enslaved, or why, or by whom. Not one.
“If these wonderful sources of information knew about how humanity is enslaved, wouldn’t they share it? Isn’t this the most basic point of information? What the WingMakers call the inception point? Why hasn’t any of this esoteric literature shown this? I’ll tell you, because the beings are either inside the hologram and don’t realize it themselves, or are part of the deception and are guarding its discovery from humans. They’re no different from us—us, as infinite beings. They’re lost in this Hologram of Deception as much as we are.
“For those of you who read this interview and are unsettled by it… I can only say, good, you should be. It’s a reality check on a cosmic, universal and individual level. You can bathe in the splendor of spirituality and quench your thirst with the presented masters, or you can deepen your understanding of the reality that confronts us and stand up committed to apply your self-expression in service to truth. To walk your life in the expression of resistive and insertive behaviors. To be sovereign and integral.
“It isn’t about spouting high spiritual concepts in thoughts and words. That is the reflex of the consciousness system—it’s parroting and robotic. Live the I AM WE ARE in your behaviors and leave the mind. Shutter it. The mind is programmed to compare and analyze, which feeds the me-you separation…"

[TomKat]

"Well, when the entity is within you, it is an aspect of self. When it leaves, it is an outside entity, and you are MORE yourself. " Tomkat

This does not align with any expert opinions that i have read, or with my own experience. Even according to IFS which is a mainstream recognized psychological modality, there is a big difference between aspects that are naturally part of a person's system and attached entities.

Aspects that belong to a person's inner system all hold the same soul-energy signature, an attached entity will not have the same signature. Internal harmony and integrity cannot be achieved when an entity with a different signature is onboard. People heal in potent and dramatic ways when attached entities are released.

My point is that while the entity is there in you, it is difficult or impossible to tell what is you and what is entity. Only after it is gone is the differentiation obvious.

The question of entity vs soul fragment is really kind of academic, because for there to be fragments, there has to be a wall between the fragments and that wall has to be some kind of not-I energy, i.e., an entity (or more likely multitudes of compressed entities).

Keep up the good work. We need more people doing this.

[onawah]

More of the same (as in my post above, #46) from pages 66 & 67 here:https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf
...and as follows:
"Dr. Neruda: “Everyone wants to know the absolute truth. They want someone to point to this phrase or that precept or that doctrine and explain to them that that is truth, believe it.That’s been the game on this planet ever since humans began to contemplate their universe in a philosophical manner. All the shared truth has gotten us where? Where we kill children to punish leaders? Where leaders lock people up in death camps? Where religious leaders abuse children? So I would ask you, what is the value of the information that has collectively brought humanity here?
“You want the signposts of truth. No one can do that, and your proof… is that no one has.”
“Because we are sovereign and we must experience ourselves in this way, and not let others decide what it is we should or shouldn’t believe, or what is truth or falsehood. I wish we didn’t live in a Hologram of Deception, but that is our human reality, and whining about it will not change it one iota. Studying the supposed masters of truth will not change it either.
“I can show you a library of books that expound on esoteric information. Some of these books were written as nonfiction, and by all appearances they seem to be credible and insightful, and yet if you listen carefully to the words, you see how they are separating you from one another. How they define a Hierarchy. How they define a soul that is always learning, a human that is always sinning and weak. How they describe a universe that is infinitely layered. How the light illuminates those who follow certain practices. It can be very subtle. They can be talking about oneness, but there are judgments present in the words, or recriminations if you don’t execute the practice properly, or suggestions that you don’t mix this practice with anything else or it is diminished, or join and promote this path over that one.
“Part of the Sovereign Integral process is to practice your discernment of what enables you to believe in you, not the universe or some master or teaching, but you, stripped bare of all of your add-ons, beliefs, thought patterns, fears, guilt, stories, judgments, blames, pretenses…everything that hangs on you from the past. If you could drop them all—everything you have been taught and told and programmed to believe—what would be left to hear? Silence. Deep, clear silence. That is you.
“When you find that, you will then know that everyone has that, too. Anu does, Lucifer does, Jesus does, your neighbor does, your spouse does. Everyone. So what proof do you need to find that? What proof can I show you or tell you to give you that? I can’t. I can convey a process that if you follow it, you might find this experience inside you, but that’s all. The process is free, it only requires time. The process is not owned by anyone. The process is not part of anything but you. Once you stand at the trailhead of that process, it’s yours to follow or reject. Everyone must achieve this realization of oneness and equality in life on earth. That is our call to action as a species."

[Seabreeze]

mymy....how many NWO workers do we have around here? That is exactly what the satanic humans and the Elite is spreading for ages already, by TV, movies, books aso. The hostile aliens who want to take over planet earth...??? And this is why we need weapons in space and so on?

I believe this exactly is the reason why we have no official contact yet. The human race is totally not ready for it and they are to hostile and aggressive and spread false information's all over the place, they are to manipulated by the mass media and/or the satanic humans. Often they like to to make themselves important by bringing up fake stories.

Sorry, but I think more like Bob Dean. I believe a advanced race could turn us into dog food in a second, if they would like to. And they are around for a very long time already and did not do so. I see them as friends or relatives from space. I think they are waiting for us to grow up mentally and spiritually and to get ready open minded, to meet them.

Dolores Cannon did a great job, I believe. And I am glad we got all those important information`s from her. She did help many people to discover what ever was important for them to discover out of their past.

I believe Dolores was a very honest person and her QHHT sessions help many people. Otherwise there would`t be so many QHHT therapist`s by now. I am looking forward to my own session next year. I need to find some answers.. :sherlock: for my own experience I had some years ago.

It was totally amazing, beautiful, full of harmony and peace.....I won`t ever forget it...:inlove:

[Innocent Warrior]

mymy....how many NWO workers do we have around here? That is exactly what the satanic humans and the Elite is spreading for ages already, by TV, movies, books aso. The hostile aliens who want to take over planet earth...??? And this is why we need weapons in space and so on?

I believe this exactly is the reason why we have no official contact yet. The human race is totally not ready for it and they are to hostile and aggressive and spread false information's all over the place, they are to manipulated by the mass media and/or the satanic humans. Often they like to to make themselves important by bringing up fake stories.

Sorry, but I think more like Bob Dean. I believe a advanced race could turn us into dog food in a second, if they would like to. And they are around for a very long time already and did not do so. I see them as friends or relatives from space. I think they are waiting for us to grow up mentally and spiritually and to get ready open minded, to meet them.

The validity of this argument rests on the assumptions that it would best serve them to turn us into dog food, and that it would be an overt takeover. One could logically argue that it’s more beneficial for a predatory, extraterrestrial race to covertly control the human race, of which there is plenty of supporting evidence.

That is not to say there aren’t friends and relatives here, and would it not serve the forked tongued NWO to have us see all the extraterrestrials as a potential threat, while being complicit in a covert takeover, when that too serves predatory extraterrestrials?

The point of my post is not to argue that there is a covert takeover in progress, just that your argument is flawed.

[Pam]

I live very near Huntsville, Arkansas, where Dolores Cannon lived, and I saw her up close and in person at a few of the annual UFO Conferences in Eureka Springs, AR and at some other events.
I also know a woman who used to attend a women's group that Dolores was part of.
She was certainly very knowledgeable, though not a heart-centered woman, very authoritarian, and quite demanding behind the scenes.
I never got a good feeling about her, and a lot of the women in the group, according to my friend, were, in the long run, quite dismayed by her hubris, and lost faith in her as a teacher.
Intuitively, I just did not trust her information, either.



Hi Whisper, I would love to hear what Delores had to say about ET abductions. Further I'd love to hear what she thought of the demonic/archonic presence on Earth. There is almost incontrovertible evidence from regressed witness testimony that both of these presences here are to humanity's long lasting detriment.

In my opinion, it is a major miracle that humanity isn't in worse condition, much worse condition, than it is now, because of the negative influence of these two groups. To not understand this travesty, or to ignore it, is a major drawback in any spiritual teachers' work, IMHO.

We have to be extremely careful not to get herded into the trans-humanist paridigm, where we would lose our free will, which is the goal of the archonic/evil ET agenda. Creating this artificial intelligence run, cyborgic, trans-humanist 'unity' (notice the evil play on the spiritual 'unity' term) would turn us into servants, a slave race to be assimilated into a galactic collective, similar to the 'borg' (of star trek - next generation fame). This would be the death of humanity, and a spiritual dead end. This must be prevented at all cost.

I agree with you Justplain, and the Wingmaker material, which I've been re-reading, concurs. The following, from pages 42-44 of the 5th Interview in the Wingmaker material at:
https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf ...presents quite a departure from the usual perspective on spiritual teachings.
Though in other parts of the interview, it is acknowledged that the spiritual teachings over the ages have contained Truth, and that there have been avatars who have known the Truth, but that their teachings have been distorted, watered down and edited.
The following is the strongest statement I have seen so far in this material about what has been missing:

"Dr. Neruda: “Everyone has thoughts and emotions. Everyone shares a reality called earth and the human body. We’re all on the same stage, playing different roles, but the stage unifies us to some degree. None of us can look across the stage and see a beautiful world of peace and harmony, or goodwill to all men. It isn’t the reality that encompasses us.
“The question is how do we move closer to a reality that supports our most innate truth, that I AM WE ARE? How do we create a stage and write a play that supports our transformation into the Sovereign Integral that is in fact what we each are? Has religion shown the way? Has spirituality? How about science? How about our education system? Government?
“My point is that nothing that is currently in play is uniting us in equality and oneness. If you look at everything in your world after you read this interview, you will see that our world is designed for a very specific function, and this function is to feel separation. It can be as obvious as the color of skin, gender and different cultures, to the subtler distinctions between religions and spirituality, but the design is fractal and it infuses everything in this world in this common unity I have called separation. Ironically, our unity is separation.“If you agree, if you also see or sense this separation, you might also decide that it’s escalating, not moving in the direction of unity, but further towards diversification and distinction, as if the more granular humanity becomes in its information access and expression, the more it drifts apart into clumps of similarity that feign unity within the clump, but expresses separation to the whole.
“The leaders of this world, whether they come from political, economic, military, religious or cultural perspectives, know how to speak the language of unity and oneness, but their actions are the result of programs that often act in reverse. This isn’t about thoughts and language. This is about behaviors and actions. People know how to disconnect from their thoughts and say one thing, and then do another. They know how to feign care, but their actions demonstrate hollowness.
“This is not an indictment to every standing solution, but nothing has worked. Religion’s failure has birthed the nihilistic and disillusioned organizations of darkness and occult experimentation. They feed off one another. It’s symbiotic survival. But what is lost in this is the reality that confusion and disaffection reaches into the world’s populations and dulls our collective minds and hearts.
“There is hope. Hope resides in the vacuum of unity and oneness that is unaligned to anything on this planet—no one owns it or controls it or administers it. There is no mediation or go between. It is completely unique. For all intents and purposes, it has never been seen or heard. It is on the other side of the wall. This is our hope, as foreign and strange as it may seem.
“What is in this world is not working, and it is because of separation. I don’t care if you read the most esoteric, spiritual information on this planet, it is of separation. I’ve read esoteric spiritual documents over the past twenty years that would make most people swoon and say to themselves ‘this is the highest information’ or ‘this information is true because it is so detailed, no one could possibly know this much detail unless it was true.’
“The most esoteric information on this planet was not written by human beings, but through human beings vis-à-vis channeling. The channeling speaks of wonderful spiritual realities, of how humans and aliens are one, of how the deep psychology of human beings is constructed, of the complex cosmological environment in which humanity is nested. All wonderfulinformation except no one mentions how we are enslaved, or why, or by whom. Not one.
“If these wonderful sources of information knew about how humanity is enslaved, wouldn’t they share it? Isn’t this the most basic point of information? What the WingMakers call the inception point? Why hasn’t any of this esoteric literature shown this? I’ll tell you, because the beings are either inside the hologram and don’t realize it themselves, or are part of the deception and are guarding its discovery from humans. They’re no different from us—us, as infinite beings. They’re lost in this Hologram of Deception as much as we are.
“For those of you who read this interview and are unsettled by it… I can only say, good, you should be. It’s a reality check on a cosmic, universal and individual level. You can bathe in the splendor of spirituality and quench your thirst with the presented masters, or you can deepen your understanding of the reality that confronts us and stand up committed to apply your self-expression in service to truth. To walk your life in the expression of resistive and insertive behaviors. To be sovereign and integral.
“It isn’t about spouting high spiritual concepts in thoughts and words. That is the reflex of the consciousness system—it’s parroting and robotic. Live the I AM WE ARE in your behaviors and leave the mind. Shutter it. The mind is programmed to compare and analyze, which feeds the me-you separation…"

Everything that is said in this writing makes sense, and registers as truth to me.


Live the I AM WE ARE in your behaviors and leave the mind. Shutter it. The mind is programmed to compare and analyze, which feeds the me-you separation…

How does the author suggest we do this? It seems so simple and straight forward yet for the average person to attempt to take that advice and make application it would be daunting and I fear ultimately defeating. The duality of this life is fractalized as well. Mastering one level just leads to a more subtle one.

[onawah]

Meditation, focusing on the breath, living as clean and wholesome a life as possible, spending time in Nature, practicing the simple virtues of a spiritual life are the recommendations from the Wingmaker material In that sense, it doesn't differ a lot from the classical spiritual teachings, but coming from a different perspective and worldview.

How does the author suggest we do this? It seems so simple and straight forward yet for the average person to attempt to take that advice and make application it would be daunting and I fear ultimately defeating. The duality of this life is fractalized as well. Mastering one level just leads to a more subtle one.

[greybeard]

When I had a very stressful business situation I found twenty minutes here and there to meditate.
This de-stressed me and enabled me to deal with duality.
Chris

[onawah]

This might be helpful, from pages 50, 51 here:https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf
and as follows:
"Dr. Neruda: “I’m sure it’s an individual thing. I don’t pretend to know how it is for anyone else. I can tell you from personal experience that I initially dived head first into this process and rearranged my life. I thought I was doing a good job, and then a week or two later, I found myself back to square one, exactly where I’d started. It felt like amnesia. It was as if I had forgotten I was even doing a new practice. Admittedly, in my case, I had a lot of distractions in my life, but everyone can probably say the same thing.
“So I think this tendency, to return to the habits of the consciousness system inside our 2.0 interface, is the main way that resistance is expressed. Change, of this scope, is not an easy proposition. The Human 2.0 mind doesn’t like the backseat.”
Sarah: “So what did you do, to return to the Sovereign Integral process?”
Dr. Neruda: “Well, for me, I needed to direct the techniques inward.”
Sarah: “Explain what you mean…”
Dr. Neruda: “I was directing the heart virtues outward to others, but I wasn’t turning them inward to myself. It dawned on me that the inward was probably the most important place to start.”
Sarah: “How did you do that?”
Dr. Neruda: “It takes great alertness to live and express in the now. Human beings have the tendency to live in our past memories or future concerns. This was what I was doing and it took me from the now. And the now is where our life essence expresses. It isn’t in the past or future, only the consciousness framework pivots between past and future, so if you find yourself in there, you know you are not in your essence.
“When I realized this, I read from the WingMakers philosophy that breath was the magnet of nowness. It was the element that brought the human being into nowness by being aware of their breathing. I also learned that there were different kinds of breathing that enabled this sense of nowness to penetrate more vividly into the Hologram of Deception.
“The point is that simply being aware of my breath helped, as the WingMakers put it, to center me in stillness. This, by the way, doesn’t mean that you’re in a quiet room. You can be in a meeting at work, and center yourself in stillness through your breath. But by being in this internal centeredness I was in a better position to feel my own sense of expression, and that’s what was missing in my initial efforts to integrate this process. I didn’t have a good starting point for my practice of the heart virtues, and I was directing them outward—to other people or events, and not myself first.
“Once I made that adjustment, it helped me to identify my essence and distinguish it from my mind system. Life essence is authentic in oneness and equality and exclusively moves in nowness. The consciousness framework pivots between the past, present and future and operates in separation. If you express the heart virtues from the consciousness framework, especially outwardly, they won’t have the same potency or effect.”




Everything that is said in this writing makes sense, and registers as truth to me.


Live the I AM WE ARE in your behaviors and leave the mind. Shutter it. The mind is programmed to compare and analyze, which feeds the me-you separation…

How does the author suggest we do this? It seems so simple and straight forward yet for the average person to attempt to take that advice and make application it would be daunting and I fear ultimately defeating. The duality of this life is fractalized as well. Mastering one level just leads to a more subtle one.

I think this may actually be one of the hardest things for empaths to master, and especially empathic women, because for a long time women have been conditioned to put others' needs before our own.
Empaths, because we feel others' pain and want to help, can also put our own needs in the back seat. That can become a point of pride, which is actually not going to help anyone, because as a good source of assistance to others, we must first be centered in our own being and functioning optimally. A question of balance!

[Seabreeze]

Meditation, focusing on the breath, living as clean and wholesome a life as possible, spending time in Nature, practicing the simple virtues of a spiritual life are the recommendations from the Wingmaker material In that sense, it doesn't differ a lot from the classical spiritual teachings, but coming from a different perspective and worldview.

I agree fully to what you say....

Dan Millman talks about things he been teached by Sokrates (fantasy name)...Skorates a mysterious person....who came from somewhere above...(nobody knows from where he came - maybe from space.?.).

Dan wrote a book about it...:

The peaceful warrior....(a true story)...

very interessting...we all can learn out of this.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqmsraCtgew


Thinking allowed


...this book appaered in my book shelf, one day it just was there and I don't know where it came from or who put it there... I still don`t know. But I believe things in life happen for a reason......:sun:

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Hello Whisper. Interesting story about Dan Millman's book.
I met him (and the book he was introducing) on a tradeshow in Denver in the 90'S.
It is a fascinating book to read, I agree.

It looks like he is quite active nowadays, organizing retreats, courses ...
Not sure what these are like; hopefully he is not "on the same road" as so many others (who are "in it", only for the money).
But I don't judge, just wondering.

Over 1500 US$ for a 7 day retreat in Costa Rica (no flights included) seems pretty high to me though.

http://www.peacefulwarrior.com/peaceful-warrior-retreat/

Any further experiences with what he is offering?

[rgray222]

Trying not to sound too esoteric or mystical but I honestly believe that the answer to every question you have is within you. Looking outward for validation or answers can help you along the way but you must look inside for yourself to be at peace with the answers you eventually find. Sometimes your answers will come quickly and sometimes it may take years or even a lifetime but you will always find what you're looking for. How will you know when you actually find the answer you are searching for? Trust me you will know and you will most likely think...................wow could it really be that straightforward and uncomplicated. Yes, the answer will always be right in front of you the entire time. The trick is to stay on the path searching for the answers you want or need.

[Seabreeze]

It looks like he is quite active nowadays, organizing retreats, courses ...
Not sure what these are like; hopefully he is not "on the same road" as so many others (who are "in it", only for the money).
....



I hope so too. The Peaceful Warrior was the true story - what Dan experienced learning from and with Sokrates....I read some more books written by Dan and found them very interesting too. But than he went into writing about numerology...which is not really my case...or what I like to read.

I don*t know what he writes about today.

[ripple]

100% No .
She was probably sincere and , in her terms of reference , truthful.
But Nostradamus was no prophet himself .He was a cleric trying to live and function in a dangerous world where saying the wrong things in the eyes and ears of the Church would have led to death . His .So he wrote in code .
About the problems that he faced in his life . No more and no less .
She got most things wrong when it came to reporting 'facts ' about her spirit guide . But , hey ho , what does all of that matter to a believer ?

[TomKat]

[QUOTE=onawah;1264782]

Dan Millman talks about things he been teached by Sokrates (fantasy name)...Skorates a mysterious person....who came from somewhere above...(nobody knows from where he came - maybe from space.?.).

Dan wrote a book about it...:

The peaceful warrior....(a true story)...


...this book appaered in my book shelf, one day it just was there and I don't know where it came from or who put it there... I still don`t know. But I believe things in life happen for a reason......:sun:

I remember starting to read Dan Millman's Peaceful Warrior book when it came out and I had the strong feeling he made it all up, so I put it down.

[Seabreeze]

Let`s hear some people who have knowledge about the QHHT session :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atu1H6a5Uxs .................................................. ...................... ....................... :flower:.......................................... .......:thumbsup:

[Seabreeze]

TomKat
.......well, this is your opinion and you should go by your own emotions. Always listen to your inner self. This is not your way then what Dan talks about. It was diffrent with me...still is. There are many ways to go........

[Seabreeze]

the video above "Practicing the Dolores Cannon Method of Quantum Healing Hypnosis" is very interesting, I think. Did listen to it again. But one thing about how to contact your Higher Self....there are other ways ...to do so also. Hypnosis is not the only way. :bigsmile:

[onawah]

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[onawah]

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[seehas]

Just finished her book "Between Death and Life", its amazing! Which one should be my next?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Just finished her book "Between Death and Life", its amazing! Which one should be my next?

Depends what you're looking for. If it's life after death stuff, then either Five Lives Remembered (https://www.amazon.com/Five-Lives-Remembered-audiobook/dp/B06XCNP5KR/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O1SGInbJROVRMi35Kps-eV9tbjcw3wHFoA597er5IiYIA6sZovwFJ0BaweVQGiReloh4yYF8OMQVMqaBtNt8Hx0mj9p4PWc4UtKpPhzlAZd1OF2sBLut-3D4nDjyGWuh9SFLObx2R5HVC7YD7scLXzo0gT9j2zNOXtbjTJ2GXJS14If4FnLjgRd4_4B6hcLc0v7RmLU-aLcWaiKOq9MSO0_Y1PapA_7WVF7fSpU4p-0.31YAaDWQuhCSL-uHLnG6V8nmKwdz6M_fKBVQY4oYHhc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954851&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-11), or perhaps A Soul Remembers Hiroshima (https://www.amazon.com/A-Soul-Remembers-Hiroshima/dp/B0825CLDWB/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.du7ZiMekEt0s_zbNM5a_ID7pJGqiFpBnObSCMOucJQ1qqiVgZqrsHJ-GgcRJ0SU31R1lFQAkurenRftN0nvducPhzNmxvi_SELB03FCKb-qurg_NKunuly264wRhXVCPmUIIGW6FatQpYO5Hlc5NERv_iM4SCkDc3FO_1TUqiXM.KAD_KB5o1L8g96Chcb3f2jjK37_REKpP_h bApgK1uT4&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954872&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-20). If you want to begin venturing into matters 'otherwordly', then I'd definitely go with Keepers of the Garden (https://www.amazon.com/Keepers-of-Garden-Dolores-Cannon-audiobook/dp/B00V6QESQO/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O1SGInbJROVRMi35Kps-eV9tbjcw3wHFoA597er5IiYIA6sZovwFJ0BaweVQGiReloh4yYF8OMQVMqaBtNt8Hx0mj9p4PWc4UtKpPhzlAZd1OF2sBLut-3D4nDjyGWuh9SFLObx2R5HVC7YD7scLXzo0gT9j2zNOXtbjTJ2GXJS14If4FnLjgRd4_4B6hcLc0v7RmLU-aLcWaiKOq9MSO0_Y1PapA_7WVF7fSpU4p-0.31YAaDWQuhCSL-uHLnG6V8nmKwdz6M_fKBVQY4oYHhc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954851&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-5).

[Heart to heart]

Every one is a powerful read, no recommendations required.

Once you have read one you will hunger for more if you are looking for information. Every subject is covered❤️❤️❤️

[seehas]

Just finished her book "Between Death and Life", its amazing! Which one should be my next?

Depends what you're looking for. If it's life after death stuff, then either Five Lives Remembered (https://www.amazon.com/Five-Lives-Remembered-audiobook/dp/B06XCNP5KR/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O1SGInbJROVRMi35Kps-eV9tbjcw3wHFoA597er5IiYIA6sZovwFJ0BaweVQGiReloh4yYF8OMQVMqaBtNt8Hx0mj9p4PWc4UtKpPhzlAZd1OF2sBLut-3D4nDjyGWuh9SFLObx2R5HVC7YD7scLXzo0gT9j2zNOXtbjTJ2GXJS14If4FnLjgRd4_4B6hcLc0v7RmLU-aLcWaiKOq9MSO0_Y1PapA_7WVF7fSpU4p-0.31YAaDWQuhCSL-uHLnG6V8nmKwdz6M_fKBVQY4oYHhc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954851&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-11), or perhaps A Soul Remembers Hiroshima (https://www.amazon.com/A-Soul-Remembers-Hiroshima/dp/B0825CLDWB/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.du7ZiMekEt0s_zbNM5a_ID7pJGqiFpBnObSCMOucJQ1qqiVgZqrsHJ-GgcRJ0SU31R1lFQAkurenRftN0nvducPhzNmxvi_SELB03FCKb-qurg_NKunuly264wRhXVCPmUIIGW6FatQpYO5Hlc5NERv_iM4SCkDc3FO_1TUqiXM.KAD_KB5o1L8g96Chcb3f2jjK37_REKpP_h bApgK1uT4&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954872&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-20). If you want to begin venturing into matters 'otherwordly', then I'd definitely go with Keepers of the Garden (https://www.amazon.com/Keepers-of-Garden-Dolores-Cannon-audiobook/dp/B00V6QESQO/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1UUTZ71XYZARH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O1SGInbJROVRMi35Kps-eV9tbjcw3wHFoA597er5IiYIA6sZovwFJ0BaweVQGiReloh4yYF8OMQVMqaBtNt8Hx0mj9p4PWc4UtKpPhzlAZd1OF2sBLut-3D4nDjyGWuh9SFLObx2R5HVC7YD7scLXzo0gT9j2zNOXtbjTJ2GXJS14If4FnLjgRd4_4B6hcLc0v7RmLU-aLcWaiKOq9MSO0_Y1PapA_7WVF7fSpU4p-0.31YAaDWQuhCSL-uHLnG6V8nmKwdz6M_fKBVQY4oYHhc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dolores+Cannon&qid=1726954851&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A2656022011&rnid=618072011&s=books&sprefix=dolores+cannon%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&sr=1-5).

Thanks for the tips, but I'm already in the middle of “the three waves.” Although I've known about the concept since her interviews from 2010, there were some eye-opening moments for me in the first three chapters. I already knew then that I belonged to the second wave myself; I prefer to dig myself in and avoid social contacts when possible. The energy of other people is really exhausting and difficult for me. The book discusses that the incarnations of the second wave have only one important task, and that is interaction with other people. This is not an easy mission for me for sure! :bigsmile:

The Convoluted Universe Series or Keepers of the Garden could be my next books -  let's see, I'm definitely hooked! :sun::heart:

[seehas]

Here is a download link for the full book “Between Death & Life” (https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2) both as an audiobook and the e-book version all in one download. So far, this book is my favorite work by Dolores Cannon. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as i did! (the downloadlink will work 7 days from now on)

[Open Minded Dude]

I'm already in the middle of “the three waves.” Although I've known about the concept since her interviews from 2010, there were some eye-opening moments for me in the first three chapters. I already knew then that I belonged to the second wave myself; I prefer to dig myself in and avoid social contacts when possible. The energy of other people is really exhausting and difficult for me. The book discusses that the incarnations of the second wave have only one important task, and that is interaction with other people. This is not an easy mission for me for sure! :bigsmile:

The Convoluted Universe Series or Keepers of the Garden could be my next books -  let's see, I'm definitely hooked! :sun::heart:
I felt like you exactly the same when I read it many years ago (I think it was 2012) also belonging to the 2nd wave (like many here on this forum I suppose).
I also recommend "Keepers Of The Garden" and her "Convoluted Universe" series (several books). I also liked "Legend of Star Crash" a lot, a lesser known book of hers.
Currently I read a more 'non-alien' book which appeared recently (posthumously published by her daughter) called "Horns Of The Goddess" which is about the druids and 'witches' and their secret knowledge during medieval times. So far it is also very fascinating.

[Casey Claar]

Here is a download link for the full book “Between Death & Life” (https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2) both as an audiobook and the e-book version all in one download. So far, this book is my favorite work by Dolores Cannon. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as i did! (the downloadlink will work 7 days from now on)

Hi, Seehas.. I went to the link but nothing appears there for me. Am I the only one?

[seehas]

Here is a download link for the full book “Between Death & Life” (https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2) both as an audiobook and the e-book version all in one download. So far, this book is my favorite work by Dolores Cannon. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as i did! (the downloadlink will work 7 days from now on)

Hi, Seehas.. I went to the link but nothing appears there for me. Am I the only one?

Hi Casey! I reuploaded it this Link “Between Death & Life” (https://we.tl/t-mcwJ2lRNdL) should work.

[Casey Claar]

Here is a download link for the full book “Between Death & Life” (https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2) both as an audiobook and the e-book version all in one download. So far, this book is my favorite work by Dolores Cannon. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as i did! (the downloadlink will work 7 days from now on)

Hi, Seehas.. I went to the link but nothing appears there for me. Am I the only one?

Hi Casey! I reuploaded it this Link “Between Death & Life” (https://we.tl/t-mcwJ2lRNdL) should work.

Thank you, Seehas!.. yes that worked GREAT. Thank you thank you.

[seehas]

Download the audiobook while you can it's still available for a few days!

[seehas]

Bumping this again in case someone missed it.